not in place of the ear
#audio-tech
warm scarab
in the place of the head
since its stereo
or directly in front of it if its one speaker
shadow stag
ah right, okay
warm scarab
anyhow
you see the speaker frequency response is taken at anechoic chambers
this means that it changes when you put it into a room which is of course not anechoic
the material it bouncess off of, how much it bounces etc all change it
so in theory due to having a shit ass room you can make a speaker completely unlistenable
crude wave
anechoic?
shadow stag
thanks for some basics, its a good reminder for myself to clear out stuff
crude wave
without echos?
warm scarab
yeah
warm scarab
I think it was an anechoic chamber
it may be just a standard measuring room
anyway bottom line is its some shit you dont have
crude wave
ya sound chambers specialized equips for testing audio.
just wait until you get a sub juesto and then you get to do the sub crawl
warm scarab
so some tool to measure the frequency response of your sitting position
and correcting it
can be better than spending like
several thousand more on speakers
depending on your room
shadow stag
ok, sp-u150x is what i have
crude wave
can confirm. I've described the fives as being magic they have some dsp correction built in and I don't know how a driver that small can produce lows but like ya
when I look those up they look like walmart speakers
warm scarab
smaller speakers that do lows anger me
they taunt me
having big ass speakers
and barely any low end
crude wave
the fives are magic I sware it I don't know which eldrich horror klipsch sacrificed babies to but damn it they have low end.
warm scarab
how much do those cost
crude wave
on a good deal 250
shadow stag
what model is that?
warm scarab
i think they have one of those 24/7 discount things
where its allegedly 800 but never really
crude wave
but I would just buy a good used pair off ebay
shadow stag
so the speakers i have:
driver: 50x50mm
FR: 200-18k
signal to noise ratio: 68db
i guess they do suck a lot
crude wave
ya there a joke lol
warm scarab
5$
shadow stag
yea
warm scarab
just get the jbls lmao its not worth it
crude wave
either speaker klaus or myself suggested would be a massive upgrade
shadow stag
and where do i put the speakers? above my monitor?
crude wave
either side of
shadow stag
i have a display next to my display on a desktop
crude wave
ideally spaced from the wall a bit
warm scarab
put them to left and right
tweeters pointing somewhere towards ear level, elevate with like a book if needed
shadow stag
i use hearing aids and i prefer if both are on the left because my ears cant do stereo
warm scarab
oh
shadow stag
severe on the left, deep on the right is my hearing loss level
crude wave
I mean if that's the case then why bother with a crazy setup just get a loud bluetooth speaker and wire it in something that can do mono
warm scarab
I personally don't know what the answer to this is
it may not even be worth buying speakers
or it may be, I really don't know
crude wave
same not going to know there I think if you have issues hearing in stereo then reproducting it may be pointless
shadow stag
i used to have a earpiece i put on my left which has the stereo channels together into one speaker over EM
well, i can sort of have 3d positionality
warm scarab
you know how we mentioned frequency response right
this is all under the basis of regular human hearing
because the mic and the speaker of your hearing aid also has frequency response
shadow stag
ah
warm scarab
so you have two other possibly immeasurable factors that affect the end performance
shadow stag
:/
warm scarab
this means something that may be pleasant to us may not be pleasant to you because your hearing aid for example, overproduces that sound or vice versa
crude wave
I think either of us recommended good things, really the best bet is to go to best buy or crutchfield and listen to these things first
shadow stag
yeah, its ok, i appreciate the information regardless of the issues with it
warm scarab
worst case you got a month's worth of return window on amazon
shadow stag
amazon is limited in argentina
warm scarab
hmm
shadow stag
but i guess mercadolibre has some return stuff
warm scarab
if you want to try alright speakers instead of pulling a larger trigger on jbl 305 do look at edifier 1280 and mr4 which is slightly better
crude wave
dang do you have a best buy in argentina I don't know anything about that country other than the rock opera with madona in it.
shadow stag
dang do you have a best buy in argentina I don't know anything about that countr...
no best buy here
crude wave
damn
warm scarab
I don't think best buy exists in anywhere except america
shadow stag
best buy is us only?
crude wave
eh do they have them in canada?
warm scarab
thats also america
warm scarab
lmao
shadow stag
kek
warm scarab
what the fuck it exists in china?
crude wave
spyware
shadow stag
????? wot
warm scarab
"Together, these operate more than 1,150 stores in the United States, Puerto Rico, Canada, China, Mexico and Turkey"
shadow stag
anyways, so edifier?
warm scarab
wikipedia
well
jbl 305 are a good upgrade over them
but like I said I don't know how you hear stuff
crude wave
swan's are nice
shadow stag
lol the edifier are more expensive than the jbl
warm scarab
wtf lmao
warm scarab
for your case honestly id look into getting a subwoofer
low frequencies should be audible to you
and even if you can't hear them at all they still vibrate your body
so they are probably what you can perceive best without hearing aid
shadow stag
so i have to deal with the audio interference situation
since i need to have them together in one device
warm scarab
you can also get a bass shaker, its basically a driver that you nail or screw to your couch
it vibrates the chair/couch and in turn vibrates you
shadow stag
lol
warm scarab
probably the cheapest and most private way of getting sub bass
crude wave
lol the subs in my car flex the roof violently when I turn shit up
crude wave
oh that's typical, you should see some real bass heads you can identfy them because all the glass has been blown out
warm scarab
you don't need one with the stuff we recommended
warm scarab
oh that's typical, you should see some real bass heads you can identfy them beca...
lmao
warm scarab
okay so about the audio situation, do i get receiver or...?
apple dongle is enough
receivers are for passive speakers and surround
shadow stag
ok, i mean, i dont have free usb ports
shadow stag
it has interference
warm scarab
ok well get an usb hub then
shadow stag
fair
crude wave
an external dac then but you would still need a usb hub lol get a powered hub
shadow stag
too bad most usb hubs are shit and cheap
crude wave
just get a usb 3.2 gen 1 powered hub
warm scarab
keep in mind what you connect to the usb hub with the dongle can make interference
if it makes noise try swapping devices on it
shadow stag
oh right, i do need a powered usb hub despite being able to use my nanopad2 and nanokontrol2 midi controllers just fine with a shitty 2.0 usb hub
crude wave
shadow stag
a significant issue is that most listings are for laptops or usb 2.0
crude wave
the hub would still work just at the 2.0 speed
warm scarab
oh right, i do need a powered usb hub despite being able to use my nanopad2 and ...
i wouldn't use midi controllers on usb hubs
i personally used mine on it and when i connected a lot of devices (on a powered hub) it disconnected at times
crude wave
ya move other devices over to the hub and plug the midi direct
warm scarab
you also may not need a powered hub
shadow stag
i had the devices randomly reconnecting to the pc but thats just the usb being a piece of shit
warm scarab
if its like a mouse and apple dongle passive hub is probably enough
shadow stag
the korg stuff said to get a usb power ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the aforementioned midi controllers on a usb 2.0 hub is working just fine
warm scarab
well good for you if it works
it personally didn't at all in my end until i removed half of the stuff on the hub
shadow stag
i see
i guess your load is probably much higher
the motherboard is full of usb things, mostly passive ones
so i guess thats why its not a problem
warm scarab
to be fair i did take the absolute piss out of the hub
a lot of the stuff i plugged in was unreasonable
crude wave
I almost never use passive hubs anymore
warm scarab
it was a powered one
crude wave
powered hubs aren't that much more expensive and they bring piece of mind
just saying in general
warm scarab
ah
shadow stag
usb midi cable, a keyboard, gaming mouse, pentablet, display hub, capture card, printer and dolphinbar. then the shitty hub only has the midi controllers
crude wave
I've lost track of all the shit plugged into my pc
warm scarab
i plugged in a wooting two he and an audio interface into my hub
which was enough to upset it
so i plugged in like 6 other devices into it
crude wave
couple mics, 4k capture card, quest 3, keyboard / mouse, my mirrorless is getting powered from usb..... just lots of shit
warm scarab
what mics
crude wave
at2020 and an elgato
warm scarab
are you powering an interface powering mics or usb mics
crude wave
both are usb mics
warm scarab
ah
crude wave
didn't want to deal with a go xlr or mixer on the desk
shadow stag
i want a mic upgrade as well, recommendations or tough one here?
crude wave
get an at2020
shadow stag
i have a cheap desktop mic
crude wave
I've had my at2020 since like the early 2000's
shadow stag
better usb or audio interface?
crude wave
usb
warm scarab
get a fifine t669
crude wave
but they make an xlr version
crude wave
at2020 I think is double that
warm scarab
yes
crude wave
doesn't come with an arm but does come with a desk stand thing
shadow stag
hey not bad
warm scarab
it was a decent mic option at the time you got it
but like its a bit outdated atm
lots of nice 40$ mics available rn
shadow stag
crude wave
lol they still make um and I still see them all the time in vids lol
warm scarab
i mean its been an industry staple for how many years
shadow stag
thats in argentine pesos btw
crude wave
20?
warm scarab
they aren't going to delete its legacy
ofc people will use it
same shit with apple
when was the last time they made a phone that did something their last one didn't
crude wave
I mostly got the elgato to see if a modern mic was any better
shadow stag
holy shit, its actually a pretty complete package
crude wave
its basically the same
shadow stag
and not a bad price
warm scarab
holy shit, its actually a pretty complete package
yeah
crude wave
the more expensive wave
crude wave
the one with the built in monitoring / dial
shadow stag
its usb?
crude wave
same shit my at2020 has
warm scarab
the one with the built in monitoring / dial
i know the cheap ass wave is good, i don't know the other
and it say is better than at 2020
has a lot more treble response
at2020 falls of in the high end a lot
crude wave
its pretty much the same as the cheap one, I'd say its a soft between the 2
in terms of price / performance
the elgato I believe is more expensive than the at2020
warm scarab
its not worth it
shadow stag
excelvan k669 is good as well? i'd rather have a desktop mic over an arm
warm scarab
excelvan k669 is good as well? i'd rather have a desktop mic over an arm
same mic but an arm is way better than desktop
the ideal distance from the mic is like 5cm maybe, any further and you need to turn up gain
and the more you turn up gain, the more you get in background noise and ruin your own voice
warm scarab
hmm
crude wave
if I do get a mixer one day a heil pr40 is kinda my dream mic
warm scarab
if you want to do that you may want to get a seiren mini instead honestly
shadow stag
hmmm
warm scarab
t669 is a good mic for more casual use
shadow stag
oh hmm
warm scarab
the reason for that is you have something called gain level right
its like a limit on how loud shit gets amplified
volume knob basically
shadow stag
which zoom recorder would you recommend for field sampling?
warm scarab
i don't think i know this
shadow stag
zoom makes portable recorders
shadow stag
its mic stuff as well just a more integrated package
warm scarab
yeah i don't know any
shadow stag
sounds useful, no?
crude wave
do you already have an xlr interface?
warm scarab
normally a mic's gain (volume knob thing) allows you to prevent it from clipping
shadow stag
do you already have an xlr interface?
no
crude wave
welp scratching off all of heil
warm scarab
eg you yell hard to the mic, if the preamp of the thing can't handle it, your voice clips
and that makes the part where it clips sound awful
to prevent this, you lower the gain to create volume headroom
shadow stag
yea, clipping is something to avoid
crude wave
I was going to say lower gain avoid clip
warm scarab
issue with t669 is that its gain is fixed, the gain knob just lowers the volume after its been amplifier
it doesn't change the gain, it just adjusts the volume after its been amplified
crude wave
can you lower the gain in software?
warm scarab
no
lean grove
What the heck
shadow stag
thats a too late step in the chain, adam
warm scarab
while its at a level where you don't regularly clip
you can't make it not clip
so if you are singing with a loud voice its not a good item
because you can't make it not clip
elder thistle
the zoom h1n revision model has channel imbalance and a really high noise floor
shadow stag
the zoom h1n revision model has channel imbalance and a really high noise floor
and the non-revised one? why?
elder thistle
it frequently made the samples I recorded unviable to use because denoising them destroyed the rest of the sound
shadow stag
damn that sucks
elder thistle
I don't know anything about the old h1n
shadow stag
which zoom would you suggest to get?
elder thistle
dunno
shadow stag
its np, thanks for your input
elder thistle
I opted for carrying a whole laptop+interface+stereo mic setup around lol
shadow stag
so klaus, mic that has gain control of the amplifier?
crude wave
aren't these zoom handheld recorders more meant as a in case my mic didn't record anything at least we have the portable mic recording
warm scarab
honestly no idea in your budget
id get an audio interface and a mic
which is like
80-90usd
without the cost of a boomarm
shadow stag
hmmm
elder thistle
aren't these zoom handheld recorders more meant as a in case my mic didn't recor...
yes possibly
I've used the h1n for this before
shadow stag
are there desktop xlr mics?
warm scarab
wdym
crude wave
personally money no object go xlr pair that with a heil pr40 and call er done.
elder thistle
honestly it sounds fine, it's just hard to do anything really technical on it
shadow stag
desktop as in you can just place it in the desktop instead of on a arm
elder thistle
oh oh
warm scarab
i mean any xlr mic you put on a desk arm is
shadow stag
those usually come with a mini tripod
elder thistle
which zoom would you suggest to get?
I think the main one actually is the H6
elder thistle
or that those problems are resolved
warm scarab
they create distance and pick up rattles from the desk and keyboard
shadow stag
i see
warm scarab
they also can't follow your head if you move away from the desk
you are glued to one position
elder thistle
but it's expensive and that's a lot of extra input channels
crude wave
they create distance and pick up rattles from the desk and keyboard
well the desk rattles / bumps isn't that what a shock mount is for
warm scarab
well the desk rattles / bumps isn't that what a shock mount is for
a better way of avoiding that is just getting a boom arm that is directly better
crude wave
you won't be doing much about a noisey keyboard apart from setting up a gate.
elder thistle
dsaudio.review's youtube channel was full of high quality recordings of different small speakers using the h6
shadow stag
mic i have
warm scarab
you won't be doing much about a noisey keyboard apart from setting up a gate.
solids transmit audio more than air
so by using a desk tripod you made it pick up significantly more keyboard noise
and a shock mount isn't a fix all
it just dampens the shock, not remove it
crude wave
oh I'm not using a desk tripod though my arm is bolted to my desk
well arms are bolted.
hince shock mounts.
I've got pop filters as well.
warm scarab
im in a similar case but since my arm is mounted far enough
its not an issue
also my mousepad is under my keyboard
crude wave
same but I use clicky keys
warm scarab
I had blues
crude wave
box jades
warm scarab
they gave me a migraine
shadow stag
so... ?
crude wave
that would be cherry
shadow stag
streamer mics wont do for me right?
warm scarab
i dont know what you mean by streamer mics
shadow stag
like, mics tailored for the streamer market
crude wave
honestly if your using that mic for singing then anything will be an upgrade
warm scarab
i dont know what makes a mic tailored for streamer market
mic is mic
this is like the time where you said studio monitor
its all about how a company labels them there is no definitive parameters to streamer mic
or studio mic
or desktop mic
warm scarab
the gaming mic shit you get is generally a capsule of a "streamer/studio" mic then put into another chasis
and given usb mic
warm scarab
shotgun over condenser
yeah but those have strict parameters
particular pickup patterns
unlike streamer mic or studio mic
crude wave
aren't most streamer mic's just cardiod mics
shadow stag
so, know a mic with the gain knob at the amplifier level?
warm scarab
i dont know what you mean by a streamer mic
not even trying to make a point here i legit don't recall anything
sm7b is used by a ton of streamers
and its a studio/podscast mic
labeled as such
crude wave
sry useing that silly term most mics targeted toward streamers your blue yetie's at2020's, elgato wave's
warm scarab
oh
shadow stag
^ thats what i meant too
warm scarab
blue yeti is like ass
shadow stag
elgato is the apple of the streamer market fyi
crude wave
eh its just corsair at this point
warm scarab
i wouldn't recommend them but they are probably the best consumer level recording company there is
crude wave
elgato is ok the price point on the mic's I wish were better
warm scarab
for the demographic of people who click on ads on the net
crude wave
I don't feel like the wave 3 is a 130 dollar mic
warm scarab
yeah they aren't good they are just like, the best consumer brand
shadow stag
there are better capture cards than elgato solution right?
crude wave
aver media bolt is the capture card I use
warm scarab
they aren't good for people who know what they are buying
warm scarab
but compared to the steelseries shit its like a fucking mile ahead
crude wave
I got it because I needed an external capture
and you need a thunderbolt port to use it
shadow stag
damn i dont have tb
warm scarab
juesto xm8500, um2 and any arm of your choice is the cheapest xlr setup i know
also an xlr cable
not sure if thats included
shadow stag
well i do but its the old generation of thunderbolt, mac mini late 2014 uses mini dp
crude wave
xlr cables are cheap af
warm scarab
yeah
but considering xm8500 is like 20$
its like half of the cost of the mic itself lmao
shadow stag
juesto xm8500, um2 and any arm of your choice is the cheapest xlr setup i know
cardiod option?
warm scarab
that is a cardioid
crude wave
most of the mics if not all that have been discussed are cardiod
shadow stag
it says both dynamic and cardioid on the listings and it looks like a dynamic one
warm scarab
its harder to find a non cardioid mic
warm scarab
it says both dynamic and cardioid on the listings and it looks like a dynamic on...
dynamic is capsule type
cardioid is pickup pattern
shadow stag
oh i see
crude wave
basically point the front toward you
shadow stag
i thought there was just dynamic and cardioid for mic types altogether
crude wave
if you talk into the back of the mic it'll cut a good portion of the audio out
shadow stag
sorry, yeah i meant condenser
warm scarab
behringer c1 then
shadow stag
those are better for room pickups
warm scarab
its like 40$
warm scarab
those are better for room pickups
they aren't
the common misconception is dynamics are better for avoiding room pickup
which they aren't
its just that dynamics are more insensitive
crude wave
now I'm learning things
warm scarab
so people can't turn their volume knob all the way up
so they are forced to get closer to the mic
then think to themselves
damn this dont pick up anything
condensers work with way less power so people just turn it up all the way then sit back like 20 centimeters back and complain about it picking up bg noise
warm scarab
yeah
crude wave
um.... 16in is too much you're saying 😛
shadow stag
afaik singers and everything use dynamic mics
apparently
i guess thats the better option?
warm scarab
i like condensers better
crude wave
I'm kidding lol I know I'm supposed to swing the mic closer
shadow stag
so far only streamers and home use is where i seen condensers
crude wave
but I've only got my gain at 30% so....
warm scarab
I'm kidding lol I know I'm supposed to swing the mic closer
i thought you were making a sex joke lmao
shadow stag
lol
warm scarab
so far only streamers and home use is where i seen condensers
its like
uh
think of them as the same thing for the sake of argument
crude wave
I've been toying with the idea of getting a shotgun mic on a stand off of my desk just to get mic's off of my desk
warm scarab
but one has fall off at like 17khz and has issues picking up volumes above it, or picks them up at a way lower volume
frequency response shit i talked to you about
condensers dont to this
so they sound more crisp
shadow stag
condensers are objectively better in "specs"?
warm scarab
yes but there is subjectivity in play
ig some people prefer the more uh drowned out sounds of dynamics
if you want more info go ask in podscast discord honestly
shadow stag
hmmm
warm scarab
i can provide you what i know but they are the real nerds
shadow stag
sorry im full on discord servers
crude wave
this is kinda what I'm working with
warm scarab
you can be full on discord servers?
shadow stag
100 servers max, yeah
crude wave
things have been moved lol that air fryer is no longer on top of my reviever
lean grove
I'm not playing that right now discord is bugged
warm scarab
this is kinda what I'm working with
you werent joking about the mirrors
crude wave
no its fucking horrid dude!
the goal next year is to rip this basement apart and fix it
the 80'
the 80's wood paneling combined with the mirrors makes me feel like this was an adult film set
warm scarab
that description makes me dig the setup ngl
crude wave
lol
the freaking bot yelled at me when I used another word for adult films
but anyway those speakers aren't what currently live on my desk those are my rp600m's
6in woofers 1in tweet
dumb passive speaker but I bi-amp them
the tweet / woofer get power sperately instead of with those bridges
made my own speaker cables as well
shadow stag
c1 or c1u? for the mic
warm scarab
c1 is xlr c1u is usb
shadow stag
xlr better or..?
shadow stag
gotcha
crude wave
sec
warm scarab
it probably exists but i legit dont care about the subject so id get a second opinion
shadow stag
behringer interface sure then?
warm scarab
wdym
crude wave
the wave 3 does it along with the at2020usb-x I beilieve... for usb mics with gain
warm scarab
the wave 3 does it along with the at2020usb-x I beilieve... for usb mics with ga...
probably does
but it costs the same as an xlr setup
so id take the latter option
tbh juesto maybe look at the mics he mentioned, pricing may be different where you live
crude wave
oh ya I was just curious when you said usb mic's without gain control and I was like huh do mine.....
crude wave
ya but you got me wondering because I didn't know
I was like huh do mine? I wonder? so I had to look it up.
shit we've talked about everything else best headphone go! sennhiser 660s
warm scarab
it should be like 30k i think
crude wave
lol
my next pair of cans are going to be planar's
I haven't had a planar driver in my life yet
warm scarab
i love em
crude wave
I've heard several and I like what I hear
just haven't owned one
been big on the sennhiser side
warm scarab
edition xs is like the cheapest incredibly bang for buck planar you can get
crude wave
380pro's, 58x jubalee, 660's are my sennhisers
warm scarab
b stock costs like 330$
warm scarab
380pro's, 58x jubalee, 660's are my sennhisers
i can sort of vibe with 58x
crude wave
I recently modded the hell out of a pair of porta pros
warm scarab
not so much with the rest
crude wave
my 380's were kinda my first upgrade over the obligatory 80 dollar sennhiser that everyone buys
I keep them around because they still work and if I need to master something I grab those because when I say they are the flatest sounding headphone I've ever heard man that's not exageration.
warm scarab
the 380?
crude wave
yup
good old hd 380 pro's
the 58x and the 660s are basically just clones of eachother
both sound great but the 58x is like what 200 and the 660s were 500 when I bought them so I'm not bitter there
warm scarab
yeah but costs like half
shadow stag
anything specific in audio interfaces to look for?
warm scarab
being um2
crude wave
is hifiman still the place to go to look for planar's
or has some other brand come into play
warm scarab
trust me not much else to look at in the market
crude wave
damn
I like the older style head band they used back in alot of their 2018 models
not feeling the newer style headband they're using
shadow stag
i guess i'll need 3.5 to larger size jack conversion
warm scarab
ive seen people tie shoelaces to make suspension bands lmao
warm scarab
i guess i'll need 3.5 to larger size jack conversion
why
crude wave
lol
shadow stag
the outputs are either rca or the same size as the instrument input
warm scarab
i think the speakers we recommended have rca ports
shadow stag
oh okay
shadow stag
jbl 305p mk ii good then?
warm scarab
yeah but like i said i dont know how it will do for a dude in hearing aid
crude wave
its better than you're current speakers so in that reguard ya
but you'd be hard pressed to find worse speakers
than what you're currently using.
that's not meant as a slight just that anything is an upgrade over 10 dollar speakers
shadow stag
yeah, which speakers that are not monitors would be worth getting? or those are just the same level of quality as what i have?
warm scarab
monitor is a fancy way of writing speaker
crude wave
my recommendation still reamins with the fives / klaus jbl's
crude wave
not really
shadow stag
oh
crude wave
that picture of my desk is a little older
I breifely setup my rp600m's and woofer on my desk to see
shadow stag
okay, klipsch the fives seem decent but man the price, its higher than the jbl 305
crude wave
just how large a speaker you could put on a desk before it gets stupid
6in woofer is about my limit
crude wave
klipsch can be more pricy plus they have a very unique sound to um people really love um or are like well that's bright.
shadow stag
ohh i guess its the same monitor
crude wave
klipsch speakers tend to use horns
they learned to control the horn sound around the time they put out the rp600m's so a few years back
old klipsch were more harsh
shadow stag
difference?
crude wave
just tuning on the horns
shadow stag
the jbl are 41w
crude wave
I don't know what teh 5's are off the top of my head
shadow stag
what happens if you go above the peak input level?
crude wave
you damage the speaker
crude wave
they're self powered right
shadow stag
are there interfaces with limiters?
oh right
fair
sorry for the stupid questions
crude wave
I think are both 5in driver's paired with 1in tweet
shadow stag
yep
crude wave
ya I don't factor in enclousers for speakers typically
I guess I can get the tape out and give you dimensions
9x6.5 x 12in tall
shadow stag
weird, cant find like the site for the fives on klipsch
unique wind
i owned the fives in the past, when i had them the firmware was incomplete
crude wave
lol why are they 1k on klipsh LOL
unique wind
you could set an eq profile, but it would get reset every time the speaker powered off
crude wave
I love mine
unique wind
(which happens automatically)
shadow stag
https://www.klipsch.com/products/the-fives-powered-speakers
redirects me to the home page
crude wave
I kinda want to ditch my rp600m's / axr100 for the nines
unique wind
the nines are surprisingly well measuring for a klipsch speaker
crude wave
though I hear the 7's are kinda the magic klipsch speaker atm
I mean money no object I'm getting myself that pair of klipsch that's like 12in woofer and 2 horns
shadow stag
i think maybe im not getting to the speakers page because im in argentina
crude wave
but those are like 1500 a speaker
shadow stag
damn
unique wind
the nines are surprisingly well measuring for a klipsch speaker
pretty unusual for klipsch to make a speaker that measures flat on axis
crude wave
damn that's a thing of beauty
shadow stag
how do the fives fare in frequency response?
crude wave
they are magic
ah there they are the klipsch heresy iv
if I could blow money on speakers.
unique wind
how do the fives fare in frequency response?
not quite as well
they offer eq though so you could mostly fix it
crude wave
yes they fixed that through firmware apparently I never knew there was a problem
unique wind
you do it on an app, when i had them it didn't save after shutoff, but adam says that it does now
crude wave
yes, and like I said I bought mine about a year ago on black friday
so that kinda gives you the time frame
crude wave
so ya makes since I didn't know there was an issue
by the time I had mine it was fixed lol.
shadow stag
ah gotcha
crude wave
its got optical spdif, bluetooth, rca, usb, and 3.5mm
shadow stag
i find myself in quite the dilemma between the fives and the jbl 305p
crude wave
and that means you can hook them up to multiple things and just change the input on the speaker to whatever you want to listen to
which is why I'm so tempted to switch my stereo up to the nines
in the living room I just have a tv and record player if I can make that work with less equipment yay!
lol only klipsch would be like ya know what our speakers lack? a mid horn!
shadow stag
fun
crude wave
lol ya kinda a halo speaker for me
what would drive me nuts is I know that even though they have a 12in woofer I'd still need a sub.
lean grove
lol only klipsch would be like ya know what our speakers lack? a mid horn!
The technical name is a squawker
strange lark
i'm looking for a good pair of budget (under $50) noise cancelling Bluetooth earphones
crude wave
don't know if you'll get good active noise canceling around that price point
you could get a good pair of ear buds or closed backs
livid ruin
I wamt to make my iems wireless via 2.4ghz, what’s the cheapest option with low’ish latency?
ideally small receiver
any suggestion would be nice
crude wave
um I have a thing for that I use for my porta pros let me see if I can find it
lean grove
That's Bluetooth isn't it
crude wave
yes I use my porta pro's on bike rides etc so bluetooth is what I chose
I'm half tempted to do an mmcx mod and get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B091P7RQ2J/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A1Z75J6C6DTDRM&psc=1
but I may pickup the koss ksc75's for that
same driver as the porta pro just a more portable style
lean grove
Bluetooth isn't low latency, unfortunately
It's fine for music listening but it doesn't compare to 2.4ghz
shadow stag
is there audio gear that uses 2.4ghz/wifi/other than bluetooth?
lean grove
There's wifi streamers but they have latency
Afaik there's no 2.4ghz low latency wireless adapter
Well. There's probably some stuff meant for pro audio.
shadow stag
right, there's wireless mics and stuff
and good latency wireless headphones apparently
livid ruin
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005491469393.html? smth like this
but smaller ideally :>
unsure though about the latency claims and data transmission
unlikely adequate
meh
gilded urchin
is go xlr still worth getting
lean grove
well its been abandoned so no
lean grove
what are you trying to do
gilded urchin
im gonna use it for streaming and rec vids but w very good sound quality
i have a sm7b alrdy but i lit was stupid n forgot to add an interface to cart
but idk which to get
price isnt a problem
i js want a good one
lean grove
the hardware in the goxlr wasnt anything special.
you might have better luck looking at options from elgato
gilded urchin
which one u think i should get
lean grove
wave xlr is the only one that'll work with your sm7b
but i dont think it has the control aspects of the goxlr
might need a stream deck idk
lean grove
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lean grove
if you just need the interface and none of the controls of the goxlr, then the wave xlr is all you need
gilded urchin
the controls would be nice
lean grove
ask in the podcastage discord, they focus a lot more on recording gear.
gilded urchin
can u send it to me in dms
lean grove
if you go to the server explorer and look up "podcastage" you will find it
lean grove
gl
warm scarab
the controls would be nice
just buy an x touch mini and pair it with midi mixer
you don't need to buy an interface based on those controls, more like, can't
agile oyster
Hey all,
Here are some loudspeakers I designed and built (including measurements for nerds)
The sub is an old SVS sub I had lying around. Currently designing a pair of 15" subs to go with the monitors
Measurements are of monitors only, crosses over to sub (4th order) at 70Hz
lean grove
Hey all,
Here are some loudspeakers I designed and built (including measurements...
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How did you take the measurements? Are they anechoic or pseudo anechoic?
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Good choice on the scanspeak woofers.
agile oyster
Pseudo-anechoic. Measured them using an Earthworks m50 in a large, black-box theatrical space. Nearest reflective surfaces were greater than 30' in any direction.
Here's a full write up
Not the same speaker, but here is a similar rig in the same space. Differences being in my measurements I extended the mic stand horizontally to minimize reflections, and took measurements more centralized in the space
lean grove
Cool. I wasn't expecting pseudo anechoic because of how low bass you were getting in the measurements but the theater makes sense
Why'd you go for a wider baffle and not something narrower?
agile oyster
Why'd you go for a wider baffle and not something narrower?
I have no sound reasoning for this, and it would be my first change if I were to redesign them. The only benefit of the wider front baffle is that their footprint is close to square which makes them easy to build a stand for
lean grove
Interested to see how well it looks off axis
agile oyster
Peep the write up! Off axis response is pretty consistent all things considered. Though, it's worth mentioning that these were designed for a single listening position at my mix desk, so off axis response was not a priority in designing them
agile oyster
Cool. I wasn't expecting pseudo anechoic because of how low bass you were gettin...
the measurements are of just the monitors. The drop off you're seeing is the 4th order crossover to the subwoofer at 70Hz
main tusk
so i just bought motu 828mk3 hybrid and i have my main monitors on "Main Out 1-2" and my second pair on "Analog 1-2" but how can i mirror Main Out to Analog ?
narrow violet
so if I get a topping L30 I can just go 3.5 to rca splitter -> topping l30 -> headphones & output to speaker amp right? then which volume knob am I using for the speakers, the one on the topping or the one on the speaker amp or doesn't it matter
and what is the windows volume doing
I think I'm overthinking
lean grove
so if I get a topping L30 I can just go 3.5 to rca splitter -> topping l30 -> he...
Windows volume at 100%
Set speakers to be as loud as you'd want to listen at max windows volume or max volume or whatever.
then control headphone and speaker volume with the knob on the l30
carmine yarrow
anyone here listen to cassettes? im looking for a good cassette player i can hook up to my amp
molten lotus
Hey guys, what are some good computer speakers for music? Thinking about getting a soundbar + sub
molten lotus
I think that's a bit excessive for me as a casual music enjoyer, haha
I wa looking at Edifier speakers
But I'm worried they won't have enough bass
lean grove
But I'm worried they won't have enough bass
there's the edifier s350db which comes with a subwoofer.
molten lotus
Oh thanks, those look nice!
carmine yarrow
https://www.fiio.com/cp13
any cheaper? i was just looking for something to use like once a month
lean grove
any cheaper? i was just looking for something to use like once a month
Go to goodwill and see what you can find 🤷
agile oyster
Hey guys, what are some good computer speakers for music? Thinking about gettin...
Def don't go for sound bar.
The best and cheapest option I'd recommend would be finding a used pair of JBL LSR305s and pairing them with a sub. If you're willing to put in some work, the C-Note DIY kits are a fun full day project that's fun for the money
haughty girder
Def don't go for sound bar.
The best and cheapest option I'd recommend would be ...
it's certainly one of the better solutions for the dollar, but not the best value wise
subs with adjustable crossover aren't cheap, unfortunately
agile oyster
subs with adjustable crossover aren't cheap, unfortunately
Free DSP software nowadays is pretty available so long as you have IO control
livid ruin
so, low latency 2.4ghz receiver+transmitter doesn’t exist that I can use for my iems right? like 30ms> ideally , 256kbps+ , not bulky at low price
or a’m asking for too much at such price points?
or any solution
jaunty pasture
I have some sony headphones that have next to no documentation or info on them anywhere
candid sequoia
any suggestions on these mics?
Elgato Wave 3, Beacn, Rode podmic, Diety V0-7u
candid sequoia
Oh?
warm scarab
deity vo-7u looks like random aliexpress garbage are you buying these mics solely based on looks
candid sequoia
no apparently they had good reviews from yt
warm scarab
don't watch youtube reviews
they shill everything and make money from them with affiliate links
warm scarab
ask here or in podcastage
warm scarab
I wouldn't take advice of anyone that recommends a beacn
It sounds worse than any 40$ mic i know of
just has a sm7b shape
candid sequoia
fifine t669 looks alright
idk e.e
warm scarab
okay man do what you want
candid sequoia
okay man do what you want
thoughts on q9u?
candid sequoia
podmic overpriced
im suprised its overpriced when its $100?
i get the wave 3 being overpriced
warm scarab
im suprised its overpriced when its $100?
why are you paying that much for a mic
are you going to use it for singing
or recording instruments
in which case you shouldn't buy a usb mic
candid sequoia
are you going to use it for singing
sure would love to try that out lol
warm scarab
in that case you can get a behringer um2 and an xm8500
t669 is a bad idea because of the limited dynamic range
candid sequoia
whats with the budget options?
warm scarab
wdym budget options
candid sequoia
ik the mic is good especially for its price range
but would love something better
if there is
warm scarab
You are under the misconception that paying more gets you a better item
not really necessarily
candid sequoia
You are under the misconception that paying more gets you a better item
honestly I am
warm scarab
You know that you can just google and listen to all of these mics right
candid sequoia
You know that you can just google and listen to all of these mics right
yea but most of them has done some processing on them
warm scarab
20$ mic vs 400$ mic
Its not like you can't get a better mic than xm8500 or a better interface than an um2
but your use case wouldn't benefit from it
candid sequoia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctgZB4S-jz0
whats the point other than cost if I just bought a sm7b
e.e
warm scarab
the cost exactly
one mic costs 380$ more
sounds marginally better maybe
and beacn mic which you asked opinions on is a bad copy of sm7b
xm8500 is essentially only marginally worse than the 400$ mic you wanted to purchase a bootleg copy of
candid sequoia
xm8500 is essentially only marginally worse than the 400$ mic you wanted to purc...
ill just buy the sm7b instead of the bootleg ig
warm scarab
380$ 🚮
enjoy also having to pay for a cloudlifter and another interface as well
for running that insensitive mic
candid sequoia
enjoy also having to pay for a cloudlifter and another interface as well
yea sighhhh
agile oyster
or any solution
You're trying to transmit to your IEMs from what?
agile oyster
enjoy also having to pay for a cloudlifter and another interface as well
God I see those cloudlifters every year at conferences and what a sham
warm scarab
God I see those cloudlifters every year at conferences and what a sham
they could literally buy any mic that doesn't have stupid little sensitivity and that would be the end of it
agile oyster
Yeah the SM7B is a great microphone, but I would not recommend it for someone with such minimal needs
Honestly there are USB mics from Samson that better suit their applications
Hell you could snag a cheap XLR electret mic as well and be golden
warm scarab
Yeah the SM7B is a great microphone, but I would not recommend it for someone wi...
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone over xm8500
its not worth 400$
agile oyster
It very obviously is if people are willing to pay $400 for it. Microphone performance is largely just their capsule, but they're not solely measured by their performance either. I have a pile of sm57 clones lying around from pyle that I use all the time. They were $11 each. With EQ they are indistinguishable from the 57s. That being said I had to resolder half of them to get a signal out of them when I received them. They also are significantly more cheaply made to a point that I wouldn't feel confident bringing them with me for live events. These mics also significantly lack QC and all have a little variance in their response. They also have absolutely no product support, which is a bit annoying.
There are obviously benefits to the SM7B, and there's a reason they're commonplace in nearly every studio across the planet. UE67 are also a staple of those spaces, though, and you'd never catch me shelling out that much money for a brand tax.
Behringer also has some pretty shitty business practices. The price difference in a professional application is negligible, so the smaller benefits are worth considering.
warm scarab
if you have a pro budget then the marginal differences do matter but otherwise its difficult to advise it
and personally i hate the way sm7b sounds
it has good bass detail and pronunciation and that's about it
then its unresponsive to anyone above 16khz
its any generic dynamic mic + good bass detail
agile oyster
Yeah which that good bass detail is largely moreso a result of its physical enclosure design. Def a great way to get that boomy, deep radio voice, but I find myself reaching towards sm7bs moreso for usage on my drums than anything.
Makes a great kick out mic, works wonders on floor toms as well.
narrow violet
ok so
I spent the last few days dialing in my sennheisers
EQ wise
I got them sounding great but peace GUI complains about clipping when I crank them -- and there is distortion at the extremes -- am I running out of power and need more amp or am I running out of headphones and need more headphones or both
tawny python
errant pilot
i just bought a cheap condenser mic and i want to know how to tweak it on my pc to make it sound better
bm800
silent haven
trash
spring orchid
whats a good source to look at to get some info on what earbuds i should buy just to have something that takes up less room to bring with me to school and stuff instead of my usual daily drivers bose 700s. i havent really explored the space in a while so i dont know where to start looking that isnt just a barrage of amazon affilate links to the most expensive products
frosty ocean
Cheap quick way to test stereo speakers? I have two Android boxes and a pc, and several mics.
I guess i need a wav of a sweep, or a generator, and then just record with audacity?
If i want the largest range, higher sample rate is what i should focus on, right, though, i don't thick me or my speakers can hear or speak at above 48khz
warm scarab
Cheap quick way to test stereo speakers? I have two Android boxes and a pc, and ...
you'd normally use a measurement mic
use REW
for software
frosty ocean
you'd normally use a measurement mic
That's doesn't sound cheap, but I'll look for funsies
warm scarab
That's doesn't sound cheap, but I'll look for funsies
its not expensive
frosty ocean
Is that like one of those mics that come free with a stereo?
warm scarab
i don't know what you are talking about
umik-1 is what you would ideally get
behringer ecm8500 otherwise
frosty ocean
umik-1 is what you would ideally get
Lol, i don't think my stereo and speakers cost as must as that thing
warm scarab
Lol, i don't think my stereo and speakers cost as must as that thing
it can have dumb prices based on location
ecm8500 is also fine
i own it, its absolutely better than nothing
elder thistle
what are these
unique wind
manmade horrors
lean grove
Ewaste
agile oyster
Is that like one of those mics that come free with a stereo?
SoundReference also makes an affordable measurement mic that's pretty solid.
I tested them recently alongside an Earthworks m50, and they performed surprisingly well. More then competent for room acoustic analysis, loudspeaker tuning, etc
frosty ocean
honestly, i'll probably just wing it with my blue snowball or whatever it's called
agile oyster
You could, but you won't actually be learning much about your speakers through that method. If you did have the measured response if the microphone, you could compensate for it and get a more accurate response. That being said, there's a reason measurement microphones are designed with such a small diaphragm.
If you don't mind my asking, what is your reasoning for wanting to measure your speakers?
frosty ocean
just to check the range
but ive had them for nearly a decade, i porbably wont be replacing them soon
top reason: i dont feel like carruing bookshelf speakers on the bus.
2: i dont trust speakers smaller than bookeshelf speakers.
3: money
4: im lazy
look at these beautiful crappy generic speakers
Doesn't help that this numpty only tested down to 200
im also worried how much i have to spend befor i would even hear an improvement...
lean grove
Doesn't help that this numpty only tested down to 200
That's pretty standard.
If you want to test below 200hz you need to work for it
frosty ocean
yeah. im 38. ive noticed lots of things that are standard
im gonna go out on a limb and assume this is fake
This one looks like it's XLR...
although...I think I have a mixer module that has XLR
but that might be the one with no Windows 10 drivers
frosty ocean
https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-iMM-6C-iDevice-USB-C-Calibrated-Micro...
I'm not sure what this means
lean grove
The non scam version
frosty ocean
The one on Amazon is a scam?
lean grove
https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-ACM1HB-Calibration-Audyssey-Receiver/dp/B00Q1F...
This is
Or at the least it's fishy
The one where it's just balloons
frosty ocean
lol
But what are the chances an 18 dollar thing you plug into your phone is a functioning measurement microphone
lean grove
But what are the chances an 18 dollar thing you plug into your phone is a functi...
As long as it has a decent calibration file, pretty high
And the Dayton audio ones do
reef wagon
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-ECM8000-Ultra-Linear-Measurement-Microphone/dp/...
I recommend getting the Dayton Audio EMM-6. You can download the EQ file for their mics from Daytons website. It’s what I carry in my travel pelican for work.
frosty ocean
Cool. Thanks
cursive garnet
I bought a new mic and headphones and I been hearing about EQ and tuning and am not sure how and what that means can someone please illustrate
warm scarab
google how to use eq apo
steel escarp
lol to think I was considering upgrading to dusk before the reviews
unique wind
stop coping and buy nova
steel escarp
I dont want the nova
unique wind
it's the best non-custom iem in the world
unique wind
still the best without foams tbh
steel escarp
the way the variations sounded the bass completely cucked the vocals
unique wind
maybe you had a cucked variations like headphoneshow measured with reduced treble
seems like those had an embarrassing amount of unit variation for a $500 iem
moondrop moment
some people have units that do not even have a bass tuck
steel escarp
They sounded like there was a subwoofer next to my ear. It was honestly fatiguing if anything.
steel escarp
what a meme lol
this headphone has no noteweight
the treble feels really thin especially
lean grove
Weren't you jerking off aune headphones a few weeks ago
steel escarp
no I returned them after 10 minutes of listening to them
zeos claims burn in fixes them
and said he had the same experience as me first
idk, sounds like a scam
lean grove
no I returned them after 10 minutes of listening to them
You do that with everything
warm scarab
no sometimes he listens to them for a weejk
steel escarp
Fiio ft3 had something nice to it
tough vault
Howdy, lookin to replace my old headphones with some new better ones. Had a pair of Steelseries Arctis Pro 1s, and afer a couple of years, they left ear broke off. Any good suggestions in the 100€ range? Also, hi from spain.
elder thistle
the treble feels really thin especially
he's almost describing this like the revision hd560s with worse imaging
I am scared
shame he didn't go into the techs much though
elder thistle
what are these
I have decided I will try these
the marketing pushes the vocal clarity thing, but their support was very good when I asked about earpads
and it could potentially surprise me like the mc450 did
or semi-open vs semi-open against the dt880 600
steel escarp
despite not having a lot of bass impact the AR5000 did manage to come of as ridiculously clean in that area
almost planar bass, just not well extended
agile oyster
idk, sounds like a scam
Burn in has never been shown to have any measurable effect. It's very likely just a method to convince consumers to wear out their return window.
steel escarp
I have heard some old hd800s and newer ones
side by side
the hd800s I heard was so old it still came with the hd800 headband when they didn't make one seperately for the hd800s
it was noticable
quite noticable
we are talking a 6 year old unit vs a new one
but 6 years difference is not in the burn in territory anymore
lean grove
Burn in has never been shown to have any measurable effect. It's very likely jus...
It's brain burn-in
Not driver burn in
lean grove
I have heard some old hd800s and newer ones
That can easily be attributed to unit variation or frankly anything else
steel escarp
the hd800s that was really old wasn't as harsh
lean grove
It was raining last Friday.