audio-tech

[smoky terrace]

oh right m2 does 24\96

guess i'll keep looking at more songs

[warm scarab]

just adjust the volume

here

which do you think sounds better

[smoky terrace]

again, seems like the flac is better

but i also still have sonys on me, idk what thousand dollar sennheisers you have

[warm scarab]

last test, which do you think is better among these

@smoky terrace

[smoky terrace]

I can't listen to these rn, i'll ping when i can

[livid ruin]

opinion on turtle beach headphones?

overall

[warm scarab]

meme tier

[unique wind]

even sharur the ultimate objectivist can’t discern which is flac and which is mp3 in a blind test

only that they’re slightly different

your gear matters 500x more

[warm scarab]

like they are actually a meme in the audio community, why

[warm scarab]

its not worth it at all

you use like

5x the storage space

and get a difference you can spot after like

10 minutes of abx

[unique wind]

idk music takes like no space

it’s like

[warm scarab]

flac takes space

[unique wind]

yeah you won’t be able to tell but at the same time it’s not like music takes a lot of space

a few hundred gigs is nothing

especially since it won’t matter if it’s on a hard drive

[unique wind]

hard drives are less than $10/tb used

[livid ruin]

how much meme’ier than logitech or razer headphones persay

[warm scarab]

i have never taken the time to compare

[livid ruin]

or the same tier

[warm scarab]

but logitech is also a fairly meme

save for the pro x thing

which is like

usable ig

razer is high level meme unless you eq a ton with it

[livid ruin]

gaming companies make trash peripherals when it comes to audio ngl

[unique wind]

i don’t think turtle beach logitech or razer have a single headphone that is worth buying at any price point

they all get spanked by $12 iems off aliexpress

unironically

[warm scarab]

yes

[unique wind]

the only two gaming headsets i would ever consider are sennheiser pc38x and audeze maxwell

[livid ruin]

i bought some recon 200’s g2 at $20

compare it to hd 681

the bass is very off

based on reviews

but mids are fine and treble also

muddy’ish headphones vs bright headphones

[livid ruin]

maxwells ♥️

i still can’t pronounce the company’s name

auh-dih-zee

or deh

[unique wind]

i say it like this

[loud schooner]

need help with logitech pro x wireless mic not sounding great on discord

[steel escarp]

I hear a little bit more dynamic range out of the flac

decay sounds a bit different too, but that is all

[warm scarab]

dark

the flac is 220kbps mp3 upscaled to flac

the mp3 one is 320kbps mp3

[steel escarp]

it sounds better

[warm scarab]

its literally 220-260kbps mp3 lmfao

[steel escarp]

upscaling is real

https://chordelectronics.co.uk/product/hugo-mscaler

[warm scarab]

its the same file with more noise

and worse bitrate

[steel escarp]

the extra noise is pleasant

[wintry mirage]

anyone know headphones better or equal to these https://uk.jbl.com/headphones/TOUR-ONE-M2.html?dwvar_TOUR-ONE-M2_color=Black-GLOBAL-Current&cgid=headphones for the same price

btw i can get 20% discount so they are £220 for me

just some with long battery, good for travel and stuff

also ones that wont break in 5 months

like my last ones did

i cant seem to find any good headphone reviews that arnt paid

[wintry mirage]

it would be better if the price would be lower

[haughty girder]

When compared in an vacuum, Logitech looks and sounds premium compared to Turtle Beach headsets...

Razer kinda just exists, the original Barracuda was actually not too bad, wish they had just updated the digital parts but left the tuning intact honestly

the rest of Razer's headsets are bruh

Logitech has a few not garbage options as well

[sinful wasp]

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[warm scarab]

I know it was supposed to demonstrate that lol

[sinful wasp]

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[haughty girder]

I dunno if it's just different colour scheme but I have a feeling it was transcoded from say, AAC to MP3

[sinful wasp]

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[haughty girder]

because the frequency cap is at 20khz, but MP3 usually has a hard cutoff whereas this one has also has data removed around 20k rather than just being a hard cut in a way that's indicative of AAC's lossy algorithm

either that or the song itself rarely touches 20k and it didn't matter

[sinful wasp]

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[haughty girder]

far lower

[haughty girder]

That said, I've also seen songs mastered with a high cut filter at 20 or 22k before

so it can look like an mp3 while still technically being lossless

[sinful wasp]

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[haughty girder]

the worst mp3 is 32kbps which cuts off at a whopping 5khz btw

[warm scarab]

it was a flac that was made into 220-260kbps mp3 then back into flac

the mp3 file was a flac made into 320kbps

[haughty girder]

ahhhh

[livid ruin]

yeah, the recon 200's are pretty niche

that wonky bass profile

"gaming"

also, you have to charge em lmao wired heaadphones in other to get the "bass b00st"

not the worst though for $19.99

[chilly umbra]

thinking about picking up old speakers. So far here's the candidate:
SoundWorks FPS1800 (pre Creative acquisition)
PCWorks FPS 4.1 (again, pre Creative acquisition)
Edifier S5.1M
Altec Lansing ACS56 4.1
Altec Lansing 4100 4.1
Logitech Z680
Logitech Z5500

which one yall would recommend out of these options

[lean grove]

uhhhhh

those all look kinda crusty

are you sure you want surround sound

[chilly umbra]

you can pretty much tell from this simplified illustration on how I've been using my Edifier R101V for 5 years

so yeah

[lean grove]

i see. so its just more speakers and not actually surround sound.

[chilly umbra]

yea lol

[steel escarp]

I don't know who this guy is, but his grass seams to be more accurate for my ears than what the 5128 are measuring

[lean grove]

gotcha. idk what would be best. computer speakers are usually not the best built.

i would avoid logitech out of spite though

[chilly umbra]

yeah ig imma ditch Logitech from the options

[elder thistle]

220's awesome tbh

if something's 256 or 320 I treat it as reference material unless it's for something scientific

also, assuming it's using the best encoder

forget what it's called

[elder thistle]

would you use this headset

[elder thistle]

also I've been trying the pc38x the past couple days

not bad

I'd rather use it over the hd560s for games, actually

the treble's kinda screwed up like that of an shp9600 but not as bad

bass tighter than hd560s

better rearwards imaging but it's not that clear cut anymore if the hd560s has that problem for most people

if I had taken people at their word/opinions I wouldn't have tried it because "hd560s way better"

[elder thistle]

what's this knob do

[lean haven]

really conflicted, I bought a bumblebee ii over the weekend for really cheap, however I do already have an xlr setup, Shure SM58 Clone + Euphoria Um2, should I completely ditch the XLR setup?

bumblee ii sounds abit better

or should i just but a better XLR mic

[lilac spire]

Any servers that anyone would recommend which is for audio tech specifically

[wind ember]

Hey

How do I clean the white pad inside the dt1990 pro ?

Or can I get replacements

ah fuck

its the speaker

[tepid flare]

Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone know's of a good amplifier to use with the Kef Reference 1 speakers?

[tawdry gale]

ief

[warm scarab]

6xx echochamber

[livid ruin]

HD 681’s or Turtle beach recon 200 gen 2

picc

[unique wind]

macbook speakers

[slim mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878761489505349733/1209212863290277970/Snapchat-1708602370.mp4?ex=65e61a3c&is=65d3a53c&hm=56376e24de6424761e43b0e94f49566e7f7f8157d9cf8a17e0740b6531e675bb& did a thing finally

installing was a motherfucker ngl

[frosty ocean]

after about 16 tries, and what seems like 4 different versions of the same distro...i think i finally jailbroke my ipod...

now myabe this 80 dollar piece of glass can almost do what a 20 dollar android can do

that feel when your ipod asks you if you trust the computer and you fatfinger the "Trust" button and miss and now the message is gone forever

[elder thistle]

dangerous

[frosty ocean]

After about 3 hours of work getting this iPod working...it's still only half as useful as any random android...I'm sad

[celest aspen]

Anyone have a suggestion for replacement pads for my m50x's?

[lean grove]

whats wrong with the default pads?

[celest aspen]

They are old and they have started to peel bad

[lean grove]

its generally best to stick with default pads since pads are an important part of tuning a headphone

dekoni might have some. look at their graphs and make sure they dont break them too much

[celest aspen]

Thanks!

[supple robin]

neither

ksc75x

[livid ruin]

current own both

[slim mason]

its an m50x, wouldnt hurt to have a different sound signature lol

[lean grove]

believe it or not, it can get worse

[supple robin]

[livid ruin]

which wons would you pick if you had no other option

without da phone speaker joke

[supple robin]

hd 681 maybe

or nothing at all

tbh i'd take either but i think hd 681's would be better than gen 2's possibly

since i dont really got a choice in using other headphones

[livid ruin]

what are your current headphones

[supple robin]

iems

i got zero:2's, samsung galaxy buds 2 pro and my hd 6xx comes tomorrow

ive owned a previous pair of hd 6xx in past, good headphones

[livid ruin]

nice

[steel escarp]

I may be able to get sus for 4.4k, the guy I made the offer to is considering it

[onyx iron]

I need to get a pair of close back headphones soon, and im currently looking att the drop + DCA Aeon closed x. Any thoughts on these? Any other good options to consider within the pricepoint?

[unique wind]

those are probably the best closed backs

they are supremely comfortable for most people and take to eq very well

theres no avoiding the fact that closed backs can perform quite differently on different peoples' heads though

mainly in the bass region

the mids are bit bass heavy stock because of their recession in the upper midrange and boost in the upper bass, but both are easily fixable with eq if they bother you

[onyx iron]

would you say they are worth the cash over some 770 pros?

[unique wind]

yeah definitely they destroy the 770s

[onyx iron]

alr, thanks for the help.

[livid ruin]

dt 990 pro opinion guys

[unique wind]

massive bass distortion and sawtooth peaky treble

only listenable at lower volumes

[livid ruin]

i get why gamers buy those headphones

they’re 990 and pro

sounds high end lmao

cough

why does beyerdynamic sell them

couldn’t they manage the treble bit better

[lean grove]

Over hyped by people who don't know better and over hated by people who know better

[unique wind]

i mean the original trio are extremely old designs

for example the 770 is from 1985

the dt1990 is quite a lot better but still not worth buying

[livid ruin]

didn’t even realize it was that old

[lean grove]

It's been revised quite a few times since then.

[livid ruin]

yh

[pulsar gorge]

anyone got any good wireless headphones for gaming?

i hear the epos sennheiser gsp 670s are pretty good

main uses are gaming and drum monitoring

(i record drums and am tired of wired)

[unique wind]

audeze maxwell is the only one that provides a genuinely good experience but it is costly

(it's not overpriced it just has a high price compared to most consumer gaming headsets)

[pulsar gorge]

im sure there are ones just as good for a bit less

[warm scarab]

you would be incredibly wrong

cloud 2 wireless are decent though

[muted cypress]

Im an Audio Engineer and Music Producer.... (Im 17 but Im still pretty good) How's my setup ?IDK if it looks good or bad.... I probably need to add some life into this like plants or someting......

[warm scarab]

id complain about the speaker placement but i dont think you have anymore room in there

[whole zodiac]

I recently changed the layout of my gaming setup, moving the monitors and everything else from one side of my corner to the other. That no longer made my ears align with my speaker placement. I moved them so that they fire straight at me from left and right like I had it before. I only hear the right speaker however because I had to put the left one under the desk where my monitors used to be. How can I solve this? The speakers in question are pretty big combo boxes with a woofer, mid driver and tweeter. I'd love to have headphone-like audio with the amazing bass these big speakers put out

[warm scarab]

send a picture maybe?

[solemn slate]

I was a microcenter around 1 year ago and I saw some Audio-Technica wired black and gold headphones on sale for 40 dollars. I think they were the ATH-WS660BT, but it seems far off that a 200 dollar pair of headphones would cost 40 dollars. I moved since then and those headphones are in storage, and I'm wondering if I should ship them over to where i live now (on another continent). Does anyone know if these headphones are good, and of they are worth it?

[alpine garnet]

looks pretty damn nice lol

[tender frost]

Focal Elegia still relevant in this day and age?

[unique wind]

hell naw

every measurement that ive seen for it looks horrible

dan clark aeon closed x is substantially better for less money

[tender frost]

If I want the feeling of getting kicked in the head each time a kick plays what should I look for lol

[warm scarab]

speakers and a subwoofer

or actually a bass shaker

[lean grove]

So far the best closed back ive heard was the meze liric

[tender frost]

ok fair

[warm scarab]

you can pair a bass shaker with headphones if you'd like

[lean grove]

Bit more pricey than aeon or focal

[warm scarab]

they are pretty epic but a wire going to your seat can be annoying

[tender frost]

for reference when I say this, my reference point is a focal elear I got years back but it arrived with a dead driver

The punch from that was nice

[whole zodiac]

will do in a bit

[unique wind]

the best experience that you can get with headphones is a comfortable & well-measuring open back that can handle an EQ bass boost

[tender frost]

So essentially,
EQ more bass into my lcd2

[unique wind]

that would definitely be better than your focal elear's

i dont know how much you'd be able to salvage the lcd-2's treble with eq though

it's not loud enough and it has big irregularities

you could try oratory's profiles and see if you like them

lcd-2: dropbox.com/s/9fr02x7blwze6uz/Audeze LCD-2.pdf?e=1&dl=0

lcd-2 classic: dropbox.com/s/4341dbn3nrcou4k/Audeze LCD-2 Classic.pdf?e=1&dl=0

[tender frost]

Yee, been using an EQ for a while and I've found it alright

Might just fuck around and find out with a bigger bass shelf though lol

[unique wind]

i support

open backs with a harman bass shelf are fun

[warm scarab]

well, just try

do a low shelf filter from like 80hz with something like 5db

[warm scarab]

lol

i mean if you like it

you do have a -8db preamp though right

so you don't clip

[tender frost]

Yee

[lean grove]

Raise your speakers a little and maybe put some thick sound insulation behind your PC to absorb the rear wall bounce.

[livid ruin]

bought some velour pads for my hd 681’s :3

5 bucks

may aswell do some paper mod to reduce high treble a bit

[whole zodiac]

@warm scarab this is a sketch of my setup

[warm scarab]

can you just send a picture instead

[whole zodiac]

ignore the messy cables

[haughty girder]

try to get some angled foam pads under your I assume HS7?

I can't tell if it's HS7 or 8

optimally you'd build an equilateral triangle with the tweeters at your ears height, but since you don't seen to have the space for that, the next best thing is to angle your speakers so that the tweeters are pointed at your ears

[haughty girder]

Elegia was never relevant though?

[tawdry gale]

its ass

[tender frost]

oh pog the cable I made for said lc2s just broke on the right side
Thank god I kept the stock cable though

[warm scarab]

first issue is, ideal spot isn't direct left or right

google speaker placement and look at images for an idea of what is ideal

you could place them behind you on stands

in a normal stereo setting

[crystal zephyr]

what are some decent earbuds for pc i kinda wanna ditch my headset

[unique wind]

truthear nova

[fresh jetty]

Hi, I currently have some studio monitors (DJ DM40-BT) to listen to the content of my TV, I connect a subwoofer from a mini-component (Panansonic SA AKX70). Currently I have it connected by connecting the cables from the subwoofer to the output input of the studio monitors. Can you recommend me something to connect the subwoofer and the monitors to an amp or some device that gives me a separate channel of the sw to have a 2.1 please?

[upbeat aspen]

i dont know if this is the right channel but would pcie capture cards or little dongles be better

[alpine locust]

I'd like to help you out, but I really didn't get what is the issue. Why can't you do it the way you used to do? Generally signal in stereo (Left + right channel) is routed to correspondent speakers and you could send either of those channels to your LFE (low frequency effects) channel (being the subwoofer) and just adjust the volume to your liking.

[alpine locust]

better for what?

[upbeat aspen]

i dont know very much about capture cards and want to know whats better

[alpine locust]

This is the audio (sound) channel..

[upbeat aspen]

🤦‍♂️

[alpine locust]

try #tech-chat-1 or #1027757333117415424 maybe?

[fresh jetty]

What I want to do is to be able to control the frequency of the subwoofer, to be able to put more power or less, since at the moment it is only controlled by raising the volume of the monitors, and the sound of the connected subwoofer does not give me the expected power.

[lean grove]

What kind of connections does your subwoofer accept?

[alpine locust]

yes, a valid question. The active consumer subs usually have a volume knob.

You also said you'd want to control the frequency; that's unlikely. Frequencies are the "tones" of a speaker they can reproduce. Subwoofers are intended for frequencies from 0-200hz ususally. 0-100 to be more exact. Your next biggest speaker should take over the rest. Say 200Hz to 20kHz. Changing the frequency of a sub is doable sometimes. By cutting the frequencies it's trying to output.

[fresh jetty]

This is the tipe of connection the sub use, is a passive sub

[alpine locust]

OK, for a passive sub, you need an amp that that is sufficent to feed that said speaker. as easy as that. But I wouldn't daisy chain your monitor speaker to a sub. Impedance could fry your monitor etc. Get an amp that has a volume knob.

in your case the cheapest solution might be to get an amp right before the studio monitors. See, you have 7,2mm inputs to your monitors. Let's say the black wire had an amp before the monitor with a line pass-through to the monitor. That would work.

And in that sub amp you should have a crossover filter so it doesn't try to reproduce things it's not supposed to. Say a filter that lets through things below 140hz or so. (wouldn't know without knowing the exact specs of your sub and main monitors, but in that ballpark)

try searching "Fosi Audio M02" on eBay and you'll know what I mean.

that kind of a device.

[fresh jetty]

Ok ok, let me serch the fosi audio

https://www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B09YNBHR73/?coliid=I2LBCLZTNFYIOB&colid=3MBZ9OX6KIRC4&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

I was looking at this, can you tell me if it can function in my set up??

[lean grove]

it wont. your speakers are powered and they're a master/slave so one has an amplifier and one is passive

that fosi assumes you have two passive speakers and a passive subwoofer

[fresh jetty]

I thought that with the pre out i can plug the speakers and the sub in the passive sub output

[alpine locust]

Yes, from that pre-out you can get a line for sub, but only line out. Doesn't have any power. What I had in mind is that you have your L+R line signals. You split one of them to subwoofer amp (say Left signal). The amp then passes that signal level line through to your existing monitors. The right channel comes in as previously. Then from your left monitor (which has the amp) you just route speaker cables to your right monitor. So your sub gets the signal before the monitors. And on that amp you have a volume knob.

When I say "let's say left" I may sound careless, but in all good mixes of sound the bass signal is "monoed" below 100Hz anyway so it doesn't matter if you take the right or left channel to split the bass out of.

[copper ermine]

I bought a tv and the picture had RCA on it, but the tv only supports optical and HDMI earc, is there an adaptor to turn one of these into RCA for my amp

[lean grove]

Yes it's called a DAC.

Get one that supports optical

[copper ermine]

So concert from optical to RCA?

[solemn slate]

I was a microcenter around 1 year ago and I saw some Audio-Technica wired black and gold headphones on sale for 40 dollars. I think they were the ATH-WS660BT, but it seems far off that a 200 dollar pair of headphones would cost 40 dollars. I moved since then and those headphones are in storage, and I'm wondering if I should ship them over to where i live now (on another continent). Does anyone know if these headphones are good, and of they are worth it?

[flint laurel]

Hello everyone! I ordered the Beyerdynamic M70 Pro X yesterday and I'm using it with my Behringer UMC22 interface. I have the gain set to about three quarters (I'm completely inexperienced in this field and I'm extremely confused because of these noise issues). Can you guys pls help me to fix that problem/find out the problem

[tender frost]

3/4 of the way around the dial sounds like too much

[flint laurel]

okay maybe 50/50?

yea its better but there is still this weird noise

[warm scarab]

lower gain and get close to the mic

[flint laurel]

i am close to the mic and i make the gain lower but there is still this weird noise

It sounds a little like a wind is blowing through

but it can't have anything to do with the xlr cable, right? I just ordered one on Amazon

[warm scarab]

you hear your computer fans?

sounds like it

[flint laurel]

no i got noctua fans a good curve i dont think its this

my pc is about 2m away

[warm scarab]

separate the umc22's usb cable from other electronic items and cables

do the same with the xlr cable

[flint laurel]

okay i think its better

but it still there Things got better when I plugged it into the USB 3.0 connector at the top of my case

maybe not a lot power?

[warm scarab]

no its just electrical interference

[flint laurel]

But that means nothing is broken, I just have to try to position everything differently

right?

[molten lotus]

anyone knows if the asus xonar u5 and the creative soudblaster x3 have the same outputs?

[warm scarab]

should be

[flint laurel]

alright thank you very much

[warm scarab]

its just some noise

don't think too deeply

[molten lotus]

What’s a good price for a mic

?

[warm scarab]

50$

no replaceable cable

good luck not breaking that cable

ask for a new one

[shadow stag]

hey, i have creative soundblaster x-fi mb3 with my motherboard, should i use this for getting surround with a pair of basic stereo speakers?

[lean grove]

How do you plan on getting surround sound out of a pair of stereo speakers

[shadow stag]

no idea really, its not possible then?

[lean grove]

1. For surround sound you need at least 4 speakers.
2. Surround sound is kind of a gimmick.
3. Good surround sound is expensive. ~$1000
4. Assuming you buy a proper surround sound setup, odds are barely any of the media you're using it with will be able to use it better.
5. An equivalent priced stereo system (two speakers) and a subwoofer will probably sound better.

[shadow stag]

should i get a sub or extra money for full range speakers?

is the soundblaster x-fi mb3 reserved for surround or does it have stuff for stereo users?

is the virtual surround apo in windows worth using?

i see thanks @lean grove well, movies and dolby atmos are the main thing for it, but i heard dolby got inflated marketing that companies are biting

[lean grove]

It's easier to get two normal speakers and a subwoofer.

Trying to squeeze as much bass out of two bookshelves or tower speakers gets very expensive or have other problems

[lean grove]

No virtual surround that I've tried has been any good. It usually just makes things messier and less clear.

There are some cool systems which flip the phase of background noise to make things sound like they're behind you or all around you but that's the only exception.

[shadow stag]

what do i use for proper surround downmixing?

[lean grove]

Idk.

A receiver of some kind probably

[shadow stag]

i have the problem i only can hear the front speakers in a surround movie not the other channels

i need downmixing

at least i have mpc-hc with k-lite codec pack configured to downmix the channels

as in configured for stereo output

[shadow stag]

really? i wonder why there isnt an inexpensive receiver that can do this

especially considering its not something new

[lean grove]

Well receivers are inherently expensive. They need a lot of amps, a lot of in-s and outs.

You might have better luck asking in a server that specializes in home theater

[shadow stag]

im on irc at least, got some better responses there i think, again im full on discord servers

[lean grove]

what'd they say?

[shadow stag]

havent spoken about this particularly but about speaker choice and inquiring about a possible upgrade to what i have

[last grotto]

Only legends remember when Sentry Headart debut and was actually good

Gen 1s

[haughty girder]

I broke the 3.5mm side

the iems themselves are fine, though.

[shadow stag]

@lean grove ^

[haughty girder]

soldered on a new connector and everything works good

Silent in one ear is probably the 3.5mm side breaking. The strain relief on the stock cable sucks multiple levels of ass

[last grotto]

2009

[elder thistle]

have you never gotten rearwards imaging from stereo speakers

[last grotto]

What are stereo speakers? 😆

[haughty girder]

Two channels, left and right

[frail chasm]

Semi specific request. I work in theatre and we have an actor who has auditory epilepsy, similar triggers just repeating sounds not lights. Problem 1, the show takes place near a steel mill, repeating sounds of hammer machines ect... problem 2 the show takes place in the 2000s, this is only a problem for looks. What we're looking for is a few options of active noise cancelling headphones ( his character is a teenager so kid with discman with headphones is a fine ) that have a wire( can fake it if we need to) but look period appropriate. Weird ask I know but hey might find something

[warm scarab]

more room dependent than speaker

but yeah id imagine surround is more successful at this

[warm scarab]

combine earplugs with anc

and definitely have him practice with these beforehand, you hear your voice in a very off throwing way with earplugs and headphones that create an air seal

[frail chasm]

He does have to take them off some times to interact. The sounds are in our control so they won't be happening full time. But yea might be able to hide anc earbuds

[haughty girder]

2000s was very silver Bose era, like QC15

ANC on them are alright, so it can be an option

[tawdry gale]

do u like bass

[frail chasm]

Thanks, will check them out

[tender frost]

Cool box

[last grotto]

Bose, Boss, Sony, or if you're feeling fancy some old school electro statics

[tender frost]

First impressions:
A little less refined? than the IE200 but sounds more fun
Like a touch less detailed but mmm bass so good

[livid ruin]

is there smth better from superlux than the hd 681’s?

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-shake-head-danny-de-vito-no-way-gif-13459123

[last grotto]

I have an old set of Telefunken Electro Statics from the 60s

The are incredible

[unique wind]

nice

thoughts on comfort?

theyre actually more refined than the sennheisers in the treble though, they probably seem less detailed because they dont have the treble bumps that your ie200s do

[tender frost]

I'm sure I'll get used to it sooner rather than later

[tender frost]

Fits in my ears just fine lol
True test will be after a week or so, I tend to keep my iems in while I'm at work and that's 6-8 hr a day for 5 days

[unique wind]

same

the simgot em6l look like theyd be a lot more comfortable than my truthear novas

[mellow basin]

Hello everyone

I am in a weird situation right now

I want a good way to get audio out from my phone that has only usb c and no headphone jack

I also need it to be low latency

Can anyone help me?

I already tried the dongle guys

It left a noticeable whine in the background

I mean it was annoying

[haughty girder]

What dongle did you use

[warm owl]

I’ve got a question
Soon there will be an electronics store reopening and on the opening day there will be discounts on a few products. The first 50 customers get 50% off on AirPods Pro’s. There will also be a 50% discount on the Sony wf1000xm5 buds.
The Sony’s will be about 150$ and the AirPods Pros about 125$.
I don’t know if can get the airpods as I don’t know how many people are going to show up. If I can’t, are the sony’s also worth it?

How good is the battery life and the noise cancelling on the wh1000xm5?

[tawdry gale]

airpods pro 2 or 1

[warm owl]

2

I hope

[tawdry gale]

def get the 2

then

[unique wind]

airpods pro 2 super valid

[tawdry gale]

it sounds better

than wf10005

[unique wind]

i use truthear novas on my pc but airpods pro 2 are solid with a little spotify eq

[tawdry gale]

app2 doesnt need eq

but sure

[warm owl]

Yeah sure but if I’m not in the first 50 customers

Also i have an android

[tawdry gale]

doesnt matter

u will get all the essential functions

on android

with app2

[warm owl]

Ok

But if I don’t get the discount?
The discount on the sony is all day

[tawdry gale]

save ur money

[warm owl]

Okay 👍

[tawdry gale]

wf1000xm5 are mid

[warm owl]

Why

[tawdry gale]

wf1000xm3 is tuned better

[warm owl]

I’d use them on my commute

So for me the anc and battery is more important

[elder thistle]

I wonder if your phone is damaged or the 5v rail has problems or something

there are lots of different dongles though

a hiby fc1 might be one to try

slightly more serious than a normal dongle dac

[tawdry gale]

then ur phone is the problem

[haughty girder]

tf

it ither works or it doesn't

[elder thistle]

possibly

I'd even say more likely than not

but compared to the pcb section of a normal dongle dac, the hiby fc1 is huge

you could fit more filtering and more complex chips for noise reduction

[sour timber]

my beats solo3 recently snapped. whats a good replacement? bluetooth is a must

[dusk saddle]

also looking for suggestions on a bluetooth wireless headsetthat can also:
-connects and seamlessly switches between multiple sources (i.e. work call from work laptop and spotify from phone)
-no greater than US $250
-noise cancelling
-sports fabric earcups (or maybe ones that come with replaceable earcups eventually down the line)

coworker mentioned Skullcandy Crusher or Hesh, but any others that you might know of? 🤔

[dark storm]

Plenty of things do everything but number one. the only device I’ve ever seen actually capable of seamless device switching outside of a very strict ecosystem is a productivity mouse

[green path]

Anyone has experience with FiiO’s cheaper end of headphones and earphones?

[tawdry gale]

Not really great/outcompeted by the competition

[copper ermine]

Would my tv output audio into HDMI earc

[green path]

I see.

[warm scarab]

skullcandies are well known meme material

[green path]

Hmm, what would be FiiO's competitor when it comes to over-ear on the budget end?

[warm scarab]

brand names don't make products good

good products do

[green path]

Not sure if... that was a direct reply to me but... if it was a reply to me, could I have some recommendations of some decent to okay-ish budget audio equipment, under $150?

[warm scarab]

dt880

pc38x

hd560s

tygr 300r

the 2nd and 3rd mentions are what id recommend unless you are really focused on gaming

[green path]

Unfortunately, I could find none of the ones you recommended under $150 in my region.

[livid ruin]

i want hd560’s now :c

[tender frost]

What is your region

[green path]

South East Asia, specifically, Vietnam. The place where shipping from other regions cost like 1/4 of the product price.

[tepid torrent]

I suggest trying to see if there are audio stores near you and checking out the stock

[green path]

The price is still at least $50 above $150.

[tepid torrent]

then I suggest saving up for one if you really want it, or get ksc75

[shadow stag]

hey, any jbl will do well and be decent?

looking to replace my speakers and i have difficulty hearing due to hearing aids

what sound profile is recommended?

realistically, if i have a sub, would regular stereo audio's bass get routed to the sub?

[lean grove]

JBL has a few different divisions. Which JBL are you looking at specifically? Generally they're pretty good.

[shadow stag]

ah, which divisions are those?

[lean grove]

They have their consumer division which is all their Bluetooth speakers/headphones/earbuds.

They have their pro audio division which are gonna be what people use for producing music and concerts.

And they have their hifi division.

There might be more or different idk but that's what I see.

[elder thistle]

see if anyone stocks the akg k701/702/712, akg k371, shure srh440A, mackie mc-450, beyerdynamic dt770/990, or audio technica ath-m50x

just to kinda survey what they have

[green path]

Most of the ones you listed, they have stock. The problem is, I don't have anywhere near enough.

[elder thistle]

damn

even the 440A should have been $100

we might have to look at $70ish headphones

[green path]

Might.

[elder thistle]

is this for gaming? or any particular genres of music

[green path]

I don't have a specific type of music I listen to, but I do listen to music quite a lot.

[green path]

Whar?

[elder thistle]

see if they have the audio technica ath-m40x or ad500x, mackie mc-250, akg k361, hifiman he400se, or sennheiser hd280 pro

for decent prices

[shadow stag]

ah neat, i guess any of the consumer division will be more than enough, are there cheap pro and hifi products that are decent?

[green path]

It starts getting close to budget now, with some falling in budget, but-

Is there... some way I could conserve budget further while still having a... decent-ish product?

[elder thistle]

yes

it also might help if you use free eq software to tune some of the cheaper headphones to your liking

[lean grove]

It depends on your definition of "cheap"

[green path]

Will do.

[lean grove]

I think their hifi speakers start at $1000 a pair

[elder thistle]

one moment

[elder thistle]

I should explain something about the m50x and it's clones first

the audio technica ath-m50x is an unusually divisive headphone

[green path]

So, some say it's good, some say it sucks?

[elder thistle]

yes, but to the point where some people can hear a lot of instruments clearly and prove it, and others hear it as a garbled mess

[green path]

Interesting...

[elder thistle]

I am in the former category

[green path]

So quality also depends on... the user's ears?

[elder thistle]

yes

ear shape and size

it's really unusual for that kind of difference to happen

but if you read online you'll hear plenty of people who swear by them, even after trying other stuff

so my point is there's no guarantee that your experience with such a headphone will be good

that said,

at least in the u.s, there is an outbreak of m50x clone headphones that internally use parts that look exactly like the m50x, and measure/sound close to one too

I'd say they're like 70% of the way there

the difference between all those is mostly the earpads

[vestal meadow]

why not the samson sr850

[elder thistle]

I can personally wear them fine, but after 2 hours it starts to hurt

[vestal meadow]

oh

wait

nvm

you were talking about m50 clones

[elder thistle]

sr850's pretty cool too, but I'd only use that with different earpads

and then eq

[vestal meadow]

yeah bought it as a gift for my brother

the earpads are super uncomfortable

[green path]

Unfortunately, I could find... none of it sold locally over here.

[elder thistle]

damn

[green path]

Yeah, there are more brand names than clones over here, I'm afriad.

And brand names also means cost.

[elder thistle]

no sr850 either?

[vestal meadow]

where do you live

[green path]

^

Could be me not digging far enough though.

[vestal meadow]

vietnam eh

[elder thistle]

what about the mackie mc-150

[vestal meadow]

no luck with places like shopee

[elder thistle]

they're about $50-60 here but launched for $70

[green path]

If it has a known brand attached to it, it will exist.

[green path]

Same with that.

Also I forgot to mention that... I'm changing from my Arctis 3 to something... at least a decent bit better.

Mostly because it is... really, really heavy.

Well 2 "really" would be exaggerating but it's heavy.

[elder thistle]

oah

[shadow stag]

no budget essentially,

[elder thistle]

well if you have those two headphones available for a decent price (sr850 should be cheaper than mc-150)

the differences are something like this

[shadow stag]

is it possible to route the bass from the stereo signal to the subwoofer?

[elder thistle]

the samson sr850 is very loud in the treble and actually has some bass volume, but we don't have to worry about that if you're using eq. I would say the way real life instruments sound is a little more normal and not synthetic (that's called timbre). they also have the ability to make some sounds in well-recorded music feel a foot or two away from your head, at least in most directions. the earpad comfort is disliked by most people, and it's possible to get thicker earpads for some more money (like half the cost of the headphones in the u.s)

[green path]

They are really decent prices, with the MC-150 being a bit more expensive like you said.

[elder thistle]

the mackie mc-150 is still kinda loud in the treble and has similar bass, maybe a little more controlled and detailed but it doesn't go to rap music frequencies without a good bit of eq. lean and energetic. which again can be changed if that's not what you like. I find these headphones exciting because a lot of instruments can play at once on them and the detail is mostly retained: it doesn't get as mushed together and unclear as the sr850, though neither are what I'd call bad at this. I found this beneficial in more intense music. there is a pretty good sense of "whack" when there's a hard snare drum or something, if that's your thing. comfort-wise they're pretty lightweight and I could wear them for a couple hours, though my ears get warm. the cutout for your ears to go in is small but optimized in shape

sounds can also appear pretty far away to the left and right, further than the sr850. but it's also rarer for it to happen

if you do go with the sr850, I would suggest getting 3rd party pleather earpads. the felt/velour ones make the bass disappear and the treble go way up, and it's going to eat up a ton of your max volume if you try to undo that with eq

the end result is more comfortable than the mc150 imo

but with stock pads it was kinda hell

[green path]

Man, seems like a lot to take in for me.

[elder thistle]

sorry... I'm not that good at simplifying stuff like this

but yes headphones and how one is different to another is pretty complex

you said you have a steelseries arctis 3?

[green path]

Yes, I do.

[elder thistle]

2019 edition?

[green path]

Yep.

[elder thistle]

I'm gonna see if I can give you some sound demos of the two headphones

hm yes

here, name a cool music piece, preferably something relatively busy / more stuff going on

[green path]

Uhh.

If only… I remembered what I listened to.

[elder thistle]

that's alright, I got some test songs

[warm scarab]

id say it sucks

jackson is the single person ive seen in this chat to call m50x and m40x good

keep that in mind

[elder thistle]

it's probably 60/40 good vs bad overall

definitely a minority opinion outside of audiophile servers

[warm scarab]

definitely a minority opinion outside of servers that focus on audio playback yes

[elder thistle]

I just don't know how big the audiophile realm really is compared to everywhere else

[warm scarab]

its good to form ideas outside of echo chambers

but when your idea is contradicting with most echo chambers out there id keep that in mind

[green path]

Wait but… how would such a thing work? Different driver size, different sound profile.

[elder thistle]

I have a headphone measurement rig that can record audio that hits a generalized shape fake ear

I'll play music into it alongside using some calibration profiles, then use the generic frequency response curve of your existing headphones to partially compensate for the damage it would do to the accuracy

also for the sr850 I have 3rd party earpads on and 5 band eq

if I used finer/more accurate eq like you could in real life, it will erase aspects of the sound in a way that doesn't correspond to human hearing

loosely speaking

[green path]

I see, so… tuning the EQ in an attempt to replicate the frequency of the Arctis?

[elder thistle]

yes that's part of it

I'm kind of adding the sound of these two headphones while subtracting the sound of your existing ones

it doesn't work perfectly of course

but still useful for hearing differences

[green path]

I see.

[fallen lava]

Is this to much for 2 speakers + sub?

[elder thistle]

does this sound normal

[green path]

I’ll have a listen tomorrow, if that’s okay with you, since I’m pretty tired atm.

[elder thistle]

o

uh ok that's probably fine

I won't be able to fix it if the arctis 3 correction sounds off though

but data is data

rtings didn't pay a brazillion dollars for a rig that's usually very inaccurate

[elder thistle]

here's the demos. I did go a little further than 5 band eq in post, but I was very gentle. but on the sr850 I had to nuke a frequency that was whistling like nobody's business

and then the mc150

wait

and here's the recordings without the inverse arctis 3, in case it got screwed up or someone else wants to hear them

[steel escarp]

the jackass who was gonna sell his susvara to me just sold it to someone else, I was gonna pick it up tomorrow

he already gave me his address and all

pipebomb time

[tepid torrent]

the worms are telling you to do that

dont let the worms win

[lean grove]

You wouldn't have this problem if you paid full MSRP

[steel escarp]

I would not

I hate dealing with the second hand marketplace

I contacted hifiman support to see if I can get a refurbished unit shipped from an EU warehouse and if they can tell me the cosmetic defects on the unit

after a lot of research, the hifiman customer service seemingly has the ability to do this

this should eliminate import taxes and other fees

and get me a unit for 4.1k instead of 4.4k I was gonna pay the second hand dude

[haughty girder]

It can literally be any song

take a song you're familiar with, then just use that as a reference

Giving a specific song I'd argue is actually a really bad idea since most people aren't gonna be familiar with the song and how it's "supposed" to sound

[elder thistle]

I don't really understand what you're saying

but my reasoning for asking if he has a song he likes is because then he's more familiar with what the song does

and then see what the headphones do to that

other reasons too

such as if I record a folk song, it'll tell very little about how rap sounds

nor will the qualities shown by real insruments when it comes to fake ones

or calm music not showing the resolution getting worse on intense music, nor how hard a snare can hit

and music without soundstaged elements not demonstrating the soundstage on other music

21 guns has a touch of almost everything so I defaulted to that

[shadow stag]

which songs are used for various audio tests?

is there a list?

[lean grove]

Your favorite music

You can't tell how much better a pair of headphones are if you aren't familiar with the music

[shadow stag]

what if you're not familiar with how your known music is intended to sound?

[lean grove]

"intended to sound" is a big stupid meme.

Music producers intend to have you listen to their music however you want. When they master it they're gonna listen to it in their car, on their phone, on $10000 speakers and $10 headphones

They just want to make sure it sounds good to the average person, and the average person is listening to it on bad audio

[shadow stag]

too bad most songs are compressed to hell

[lean grove]

Loudness wars were the worst thing since Reagan

[quaint drift]

isnt that why we have things like dolby formats vs lossless?

i think it just depends on who u listen to bc of an equipment thing no?

[warm scarab]

dolby is mixing

and this is a production thing not a format thing

[quaint drift]

no, no.. I was on ab the dude and his take on compression

[warm scarab]

yeah

it isn't a matter of lossless formatting

its a decision taken by the producer

[quaint drift]

i guess ive been listening to too much compressed shit

[warm scarab]

well

we all are without choice

[steel escarp]

I do not understand how my tube preamp makes the sound stage smaller for my headphones

[shadow stag]

i dont like the distortion caused from the clipping compression :(

[steel escarp]

buy vinyl

[shadow stag]

that's a really expensive luxury

[steel escarp]

no it actually sounds better

they can't master music as loud on vinyl

because that fucks up the sound

[wintry mirage]

speaking of vinyl I recently got one or well two vinyls technically

it does sound different than flac or mp3

[frosty ocean]

if the FLAC is a recording of a record...probably not

Also, good news!

https://xiph.org/flac/2022/09/09/flac-1-4-0-released.html

[elder thistle]

then it sounds how it does sound

it is all relative

also I still think the loudness wars thing is drama that has little basis to exist

if music is slamming into the limiter or the 0db line in a way that's not transparent, then the music is improperly mixed

it is not an industry standard

[warm scarab]

its not a standard but its way too common

audbol said its still something that has only recently started to heal back

[elder thistle]

I thought you guys listened to audiophile music

[warm scarab]

i like good mixing but its not like the music i like is exclusively mixed well

like king crimson

best lyrics i know of

one of the worst mixes out there

[elder thistle]

ok yes

[warm scarab]

king crimson is old af though

but you can take iron maiden into example

their latest album's mixing was so fucking garbage

its so muffled and compressed

its insane

[elder thistle]

maybe what I mean is loudness wars didnt cause these issues, but the lack of people mixing before the music is made loud

[warm scarab]

that's an odd thing to say considering the issue started with it

[elder thistle]

there are tons of operations that are done to audio before it hits any kind of master limiter, lookahead limiter, multiband compressor, saturator, or clipper

[warm scarab]

yes, what are you getting at

[elder thistle]

they didnt do these things

thats what causes a track to sound compressy or distorted once it hits a limiter or something

[warm scarab]

yeah sure a lot of people probably unintentionally clipped their stuff

this doesn't make the loudness wars not have an effect on anything

90% of the "remasters" on spotify are the same music made louder

[unique wind]

music that hangs around at like -24db is stupid

it should be in the -12 -> -6 range most of the time

[elder thistle]

I mean the cause for poor mixing seen from loudness wars is not loudness

its poor mixing

because a poor mix hitting a limiter hard creates a worse mix

[warm scarab]

its poor mixing

[elder thistle]

a good mix is louder without penalty or very little penalty

[warm scarab]

that you take

then make louder

or its good mixing that you take

and still make louder

lol

there are examples like alan parson that was right in the top times of loudness war

but because the dude was an educated audio engineer

his mixing still slaps 90% of the shit today

holds up super well

[elder thistle]

yes exactly

[shadow stag]

popular music even in 2011 was fucked by compression

[lean grove]

they dont make uncompressed music like they used to

from 1941

this is the good shit

[elder thistle]

legendary

[warm scarab]

nils i got bad news...

[elder thistle]

you know what does bother me

there are some musicians I've met who refuse to use certain note arrangements in their projects because it compromised their attempt at loudness

which,

is moreso based on their inability or unwillingless to mix what they have created beyond a certain point

and mixing is often viewed as a tedious and rewardless task by musicians

but wtf

constricting your best musical ideas for reasons like that is one of the lowest things I've seen in music production

the most common occurence of this is when someone wants to have their kick and bassline play at the same time

which presents 2 problems: phasing/volume inconsistency and high amplitude

some people solve this by sort of autotuning the kick as the fundamental goes downwards in frequency. they have it comply to the note scale of their bassline. then they compress it and optimize phase and timings and such

some people make their bassline only be 1 kind of note when it's overlapping, so the volume is consistent and the note chosen causes minimal phasing

and some people duck the bassline in volume

personally I often do a modified version of the 3rd approach

my bassline is split into an actual sub bass layer and then the top part containing harmonics above 150hz-ish

and I try to precisely duck just the sub bass layer with the kick in a way that isn't very noticeable

now my kick can be (almost) anything, and so can my bassline

the kick cannot be long

[primal fulcrum]

My USB studiodock speakers stopped working with USB

luckily it also has superior "RCA out"

[hasty sigil]

Noise cancelling headphones what kind of noise do they cancel?

Do they cancel all surrounding sound at certain level?

[lean grove]

generally speaking they cancel out as much as they can. but they will do their best cancelling out consistent repetitive noises. like fan noises, engine noises, humming, hissing, etc.

they will decrease lower frequencies better than higher frequencies. but thats fine since higher frequncies are easier blocked by the physical plastic and rubber blocking your ear

[hasty sigil]

But they dont provide full silence right

[lean grove]

no

[hasty sigil]

I have idiot roomate and unless I listen to music I hear him talking to himself or playing random trash

[lean grove]

talking and music is what active noise cancelling does worst at

it will put a dent in it, but it wont block it out the same way it will engine noise or whatever

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/isolation/noise-isolation-cancellation-passive-active

[rare comet]

Anyone have suggestions for budget PC speakers? I'm looking for around $60 but it's flexible
I was thinking about the creative pebble pro: Creative Pebble Pro Minimalist 2.0 USB-C Computer Speakers with Bluetooth 5.3 and Customizable RGB Lighting, Clear Dialog and BassFlex Tech, USB Audio, Headset Port, for PC and Mac … https://a.co/d/iYerZjv

I've seen the Logitech z207 show up a bit too: https://a.co/d/g0Z5lkv

[frosty ocean]

Don't make me illegally upload my dsf of Take Me To The Pilot

[frosty ocean]

On a scale from 1 to 10, how cromulent is using a 3.5mm audio cable loopback to a Line In to record a DSF file to PCM?

Also. Which is more likely to be a better playback device. My am4 motherboards built in audio, or my cheap Chinese portable player that claims it plays DSD music? Or maybe my Note3/8

[elder thistle]

if you have space, this kind of budget allows for some cheap 3" speakers

the $60 ones I have are called the "headliner hd3" and the treble is loud unless you eq it down

but just to give you an idea versus the pebbles I have (v3), I did some audio recordings with a headphone measurement rig (used as a binaural mic)

regardless of what headphones you're using, you can probably hear how much more full and detailed they are

out of stock, at least of the red one on amazon which was $60

[smoky terrace]

@warm scarab you win, i'm deleting apple music

Not for your reasons though

[warm scarab]

its the same audio quality man

one is louder

cope

[smoky terrace]

yes but that is not the reason

I'll tell you why

[warm scarab]

what is your reason

[smoky terrace]

This bullshit

Absolutely UNACCEPTABLE that the most valuable company on the planet can't have a full avenged sevenfold album available

But some random swedes can

[civic beacon]

Welcome to modern day media licensing. Where you'll own nothing and be happy about it!

[smoky terrace]

i COULD get it on itunes for like a buck and always have it, but it's ridicolous

Oh you need to buy the entire album in order to have THAT ONE song

[frosty ocean]

Yeah...albums. Kids...

[smoky terrace]

Yes yes grandpa let me change your CD

[molten lotus]

👍

[frosty ocean]

All my CDs are in a cupboard. I mostly just play them from local storage

[rare comet]

Checking them out now
Thank you!!

[limber plume]

hey guys

im looking for a nice nightly mic to use with clear crisp sound bedtypes like for asmr purposes and voice

i seen a lot of people using the blue yeti on asmr videos but to me its quite big is there any good small uptions or a good laptop mic that ican diy

[warm scarab]

blue yeti is overrated in any case, good to avoid it entirely

[warm scarab]

@unique wind do you understand tvs

[unique wind]

yah

[warm scarab]

anything you recommend sub 600$?

or 700

[unique wind]

are Hisense U series TVs available where you live?

Hisense U6K, U7K

europe kinda gets hosed when it comes to the display market so it’s hard to give recommendations

[warm scarab]

ill check in a min

[warm scarab]

nah unfortunately not

[unique wind]

[warm scarab]

well anything else?

[gritty mountain]

Logitech Z313 2.1 when they go on sale, best bang for the buck unless you want to spend 2-3x.

[primal fulcrum]

Only 15w subwoofer? That's horrible, 120w minimum

[gritty mountain]

Not sure you are going to find anything in that price point (under $60) with a 120W. I still stand by my recommendation, the sub size is paired well with the desktop speakers. It's far from what I use today, but in a pinch they work well.

especially if you can catch them on amazon for $39

[elder thistle]

but the z313 isn't using real speakers

you can get 3" speakers for this price

actually I heard those sattelites before and they were maybe around the pebbles v3 in the treble and mids

[haughty girder]

I see the appeal of both and I actually think they serve two completely different markets

Ever since switching to music streaming, my playlists change a lot

I discover new songs that I listen to often and stop listening to others

You're paying for convenience to be able to listen to more and new music

[civic beacon]

Oh I don't dispute that at all - I've been a Spotify user since the Fall 2008 beta, and a Premium user since it became officially available in Canada in 2014. Unless they drastically increase their rates, I won't stop paying because the social, discovery, and playlist algorithms have indeed opened my mind to so much music I'd not have found otherwise. It just sucks when licensing deals result in fragmenting access to media, that's all.

I still buy and subsequently rip CDs of albums I really love though, cause it's the only legal way to play them in Audiosurf and makes it harder for people to play the 30 second skip song game on road trips in the car.

[warm scarab]

I can't get audiosurf 1 to run lol

[limber plume]

hey guys im confused as f rightnow so the positive from dc to capacitor need to go the the negative of the capatior and the negative end to to the positive? i got this circuit and its confusing me big them

[barren ocean]

I'd like to plug my IEMs into my preamp instead of my pc. I got a 6.3mm adapter so i can plug them in but i lose spatial audio? Anyone know where im going wrong?

[rose jacinth]

Is the shure sm58 goos

Good

[pale slate]

shit is immortal

[rose jacinth]

Huh?

[pale slate]

the sm58 is immortal, so good for live perfomance and all, but if you want a still usage, prefer something else

[rose jacinth]

Is there any other mics similar to ot

[pale slate]

what's your use case ?

'cause if you're not planning to bash it in your head slaughter to prevail style, the AT2020 is better for the same price (but require 48v)
https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/at2020

at least for voices

[warm scarab]

@lean grove any recommendations for 50-60$ wireless in ears

doesn't have to be built in

[unique wind]

do you still have your utws3

[warm scarab]

its not for me

so bt adapter needs to be in budget

[unique wind]

moondrop space travel are probably going to be the most well tuned earbuds in that price range, but their battery life, anc, and other features arent great

[warm scarab]

I recommended the same thing

don't think he was too pleased lol

[unique wind]

bros gotta cough up more shillings then

[high sleet]

Hey guys I’m thinking of switching to a dedicated mic and pair of headphones. Im fairly set on getting a fifine a6T but idk what headphones to get. I’m looking for a wireless pair preferably in white but it’s not that deep but is it even worth me getting dedicated headphones on a budget or should I just use my razer kraken x?

[lean grove]

How much do you wanna spend on headphones?

If you don't have any problems with your krakens there's no harm in keeping them. You can save money now and when your krakens turn into cracked-headband-ens then you can get something nicer.

[high sleet]

Yeah true thanks

[shadow stag]

are there small subs for desktop use?

[dull jackal]

Hey does anyone know any good budget speakers for my monitor

[lean grove]

Yes.

[lean grove]

Define "budget"

[dull jackal]

like

$50

ish

[shadow stag]

ah, i'll try searching, anything in particular i could look into?

[dull jackal]

also would i plug them into the headphone jack on my monitor or pc

or do either work

[shadow stag]

either will be fine

[lean grove]

Creative pebbles are gonna be your best bet.

[dull jackal]

ty

[shadow stag]

one would be your audio card and the other would be your displayport/hdmi output which is maybe inferior than the audio card

[dull jackal]

i’ll check it out

[shadow stag]

<$20 is my budget for a sub

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/paulrudd-gif-18560841

You can get a taco

That's not a subwoofer but it's what you can afford

[shadow stag]

i dont really have money

subs are expensive?

at what price do they start?

[lean grove]

Like $150

[shadow stag]

damn

and full range speakers?

[warm scarab]

depends

full range speakers are expensive

"full range" speakers are cheap

but rationally speaking if you could just buy full range speakers to negate the reason to buy a subwoofer there wouldn't be anyone selling subs out there

[shadow stag]

i guess

[warm scarab]

which you could

but that's where we come across the issue of money

[shadow stag]

i mean im looking for an upgrade to my basic desktop speakers setup

[warm scarab]

i dont know what sort of upgrade you can get with 20$

[shadow stag]

i guess i'll have to raise the budget

im looking for options for the future

[warm scarab]

where do you live

well

edifier mr4 are decent "full range" speakers

if you want something cheaper then go for creative pebbles 2.1

and if you can't afford creative pebbles either just stick to what you have

[shadow stag]

argentina

i see, i'll see about it

wdym by "full range" instead of full range, as in its a tweeter and a sub in one?

cant find 2.1 pebbles

would the edifier mr4 count as monitor?

ah i see

are there small desktop studio monitors?

hmm

but im only getting as far as 60hz on the low end

i cant find the creative pebble 2.1 on the local market

ahh

the 2.1 version is pebble plus

[warm scarab]

no its just

not actually full range

real full range shit costs like

more than 500$

easily

its so expensive i never even looked into it

[warm scarab]

it should have a woofer unit with it

apart from the two speakers

[warm scarab]

no

small monitors don't play bass

not unless you pay a fuck ton anyways

physical limitations

[lean grove]

@shadow stag are you good at woodworking or diy? You might be able to build a subwoofer for cheaper than you can buy one.

[shadow stag]

unfortunately no

damn

[warm scarab]

better start learning

also diy in places that don't locally sell sub drivers is expensive af

[shadow stag]

whats the minimum size for monitors to have good bass?

[warm scarab]

the shipping for those dyson drivers are so god damn pricey

[shadow stag]

or subs

[warm scarab]

no hard rule

just don't expect them pebble sized

something like idk

[shadow stag]

i guess

[warm scarab]

at least 30cm maybe

[shadow stag]

i suppose the pebble plus is my best option...

[warm scarab]

its the woofer size mostly so depends on how they engineered it

and tuning too

just don't buy small stuff

[shadow stag]

fair enough

well i have a genius sp-u150x currently

[lean grove]

I refuse to believe that Argentina doesn't have car subwoofers.

[warm scarab]

why would you want to make a diy sub

to put car sub drivers in it

[lean grove]

Because our buddy has $20

[tender rain]

anyone here can help me buy IEM earbuds?

TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero or TANGZU Wan'er S.G?

i wanna go for the Tangzu for its price and has a better design

[unique wind]

i come home and my schiit stack no longer works

interesting

i love how schiit products just die without being touched it’s really funny

good thing i have an apple dongle

not like i need more than this anyway

[steel escarp]

apple dong?

[unique wind]

yah

[steel escarp]

it cant get my xs loud enough

[unique wind]

i believe it

low impedance planars whip amps

[steel escarp]

it kinda left a burning smell when I tried to power my he1000v2 stealth

[unique wind]

im satisfied at 11/100 with my truthear nova iems even with -1db in eq though

[steel escarp]

I was on ubuntu and for some reason it got louder than usual

the ifi zen dac v2 would be amazing for IEMs if they didn't add more gian to the amp than it needs to have

I hate ifi for this, too much gain so you are forced to dial the volume back, but you get a channel imbalance at 9 o'clock

[unique wind]

no gain level adjustment?

i dont see one on it

just "power match" and "truebass" buttons

a $200 amp that doesnt have gain toggles is ewaste IMO

[steel escarp]

power match is high gain mode

it doesn't do anything else

[void token]

i just bought the orchestra lite and all i hear is a constant static noise through my headset whenever my pc is on please help. i have no mix up or anything else to modify the audio

it sounds like maybe the driver themselves but idk first time buying

[warm scarab]

google how to solve electrical interference

[lean grove]

What's an orchestra lite

[lean grove]

You have a noisy PC headphone jack. You need to buy a better DAC to fix it

Something like an Apple USB c dongle or some sort of cx31993

Fosi ds1 or a schiit magni if you want to get fancy

[void token]

i just my motherboard and nothing else

[steel escarp]

Saw this on reddit today

Disclaimer: my hatred of audiophiles is purely theatrical, but if I did have to kill one for some reason, it would be very easy.
I'd brandish my tube amp at them and they'd be compelled to approach. "That's very cool," they'd say, confident in their superior ears and perceptiveness from all their years of critical listening. They'd shower me with very interesting facts about soundstage and fidelity and hover just out of range, waiting for me to exhaust myself. "But nowadays this technology is completely obsolete, you see, and is not the best choice for list—” and then I'd hit them the bass guitar in my other hand, which they would not have noticed because audiophiles can only perceive bass immediately after an equipment upgrade.

[lean grove]

yes and its noisy

[dull jackal]

got a pair

thanks for the help

[elder thistle]

try plugging it into the front io instead of the motherboard

[still plaza]

I need new headphones. Right now I have Razer Blackshark V2X's, but they are 2 years old and just sound bad. Looking for something without a mic (since I dont do VC's) anyone have recommendations?

[lean grove]

take a look at the hd560s

[still plaza]

199 on amazon, 279 on sennheisers own website. this is either an american amazon situation or a huge discount

[lean grove]

sennheiser has their price at the highest possible price so they dont make their distributors upset by undercutting their sales

[still plaza]

I see

[lean grove]

i keep forgetting that the 560s is $200

at that price, the hd6xx from drop is a better deal

[still plaza]

200 CAD, 160 USD

[lean grove]

oh that makes more sense

yeah

there was a price bump recently so i forget the current price

[elder thistle]

what do you want the headphones to do

is open back a problem? they let noise in and out of the headphones

[still plaza]

Listen to stuff, but also play games (I don't play any competitive stuff, just like trackmania and polybridge n stuff)

[still plaza]

Doesn't matter

[elder thistle]

what kind of music? do you know if you want wide and relaxed, intense and hyperdetailed

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-frustrada-frustrating-com-raiva-puxando-o-olho-gif-22747412

[elder thistle]

bass

[elder thistle]

I'm not familiar with the kind of deals you can get for headphones in canada

as far as amazon goes, one of the other options depending on what you want is the shure srh440a

both are fairly priced imo, which is more surprising for the hd560s

I don't know if the hd560s's they're selling on amazon canada are the old ones or the new ones. the big difference being they swapped the earpads out which changed the sound to have more bass but lower quantities of now more uneven mids and treble

fortunately, free eq software can help patch up the tonality or add more bass

but you can generally just mentally adjust to it

same with srh440a

the reasons the srh440a could be considered is if you don't really care about soundstage and you want louder, higher quality bass and a perhaps more intense presentation

[barren ocean]

I'd like to plug my IEMs into my preamp instead of my pc. I got a 6.3mm adapter so i can plug them in but i lose spatial audio? Anyone know where im going wrong?

[copper ermine]

Can I get just the audio from a HDMI earc output on my tv?

To connect to amp without needing to select it as video source on tv

[slim oyster]

Hi, so after I returned Audeze Maxwell, I bought Hifiman XS Edition, and with these comparing sounds in Hitman 3, I did not need 10 minutes to recognize that they sound amazing, because they do straight away show their clarity and great gaming sound, even though both headphones use Planar Magnetic Drivers, it sounds absolutely different and they are comfortable! they do have some minus in them, for example when I move head, they crackle a bit sometimes, its annoying but not terribly much, and I wish they were closed back cause it picks up a lot of treble like my mechanical keyboard, I guess I have to buy the non clicky keyboard hah, but from what I read people say they like open headphones instead of closed? I'm not sure why, I only see disadvantage, but maybe it has to do something with the sound overally. but I can recommend Hifiman XS Edition for both music and gaming!

[warm scarab]

you sort of answered yourself in this

"I read people say they like open headphones instead of closed? I'm not sure why, I only see disadvantage"

"even though both headphones use Planar Magnetic Drivers, it sounds absolutely different"

[slim oyster]

well I am not sure if its the reason, the EQ is also different, and I prefer this one much more with clear mids

[tepid torrent]

what eq

[warm scarab]

sound physics apply to closed back and open back headphones fundementally different

also eq is something you do to a playback item

tuning is the term you are looking for

[slim oyster]

yes I mean sound profile

I've also tried HD560s before these, but they still were not better choise then Revolver, I think its the most underrated headphones in its price range

[warm scarab]

you just brainwashed yourself into convincing revolver is neutral

literally give it time and you wont like them

[lean grove]

Yeah open backs just sound better. The Maxwell should, in theory, be tuned very well. Almost perfect if you think that Harman tuning is perfect.

But there's other aspects that impact how things sound and open backs have those factors that are hard to show from tuning alone.

[onyx iron]

Any good reccomendations for vinyl players? Some requirements/wants:

• Small (Can fit in a dorm without taking up too much space)
• Not super expensive (No frame of reference on price, just medium end ideally)
• 1/4 inch output (Ive heard some players have audio jack output, and this would be nice to have)
  Any tips/recs appreciated!

[lean grove]

UTurn orbit with some sort of magni headphone amp would probably be the cheapest thing that's worth getting

[warm scarab]

i don't know how you would get a small player

when all vinyl sizes are standard

[lean grove]

Sound burger

[warm scarab]

that just looks really wrong

[unique wind]

thats a sin

[lean grove]

Wan