audio-tech

[candid cosmos]

• btw without the Bass Adapter thing...

[elder thistle]

did you try eq

[candid cosmos]

I did - ofc i can make them usable - but so i can for most iems. Crappy or good.

Okay, crappy only to a certain point.

[elder thistle]

so the zero reds were not satisfactory after eq?

[candid cosmos]

I just dont like using eq

Like said i can make them be fine to me - on PC.

I love the cable tho

And use it for my blessing 3 xD

[elder thistle]

it just seems like a lot of money to throw at a problem that's just tonality

[candid cosmos]

Ah its not only that.

The blessing 3 are another League

[elder thistle]

oh ok

[candid cosmos]

But still

As for cheap i just dont like using them

The pr2 f. E. Are very cool, mostly because of planar-iness

Or anything else i own xD

[elder thistle]

I want to try a planar iem

[candid cosmos]

They are not impressive in Fr

Just sain that.

But planar is just cool.

Hard to explain

Tbh its impossible to explain xD

I want to try actually good planars at one point.

[elder thistle]

I want to try using planars as studio headphones and see if the mix explodes or not

maybe an lcd2

or at least an edition xs

[fair pawn]

I just generally like planar more than Dynamic headphones

I only have experience with headphones tho

not really an IEM guy

[candid cosmos]

Translates over

Planar Technology is just extremely cool.

Planar tws when? xD

[fair pawn]

I drive most of the time so don't really have a use case scenario

[candid cosmos]

Wdym by drive

[fair pawn]

like actual driving

with car

[fair pawn]

lol

[candid cosmos]

Still dont understand the assosiation. You cant use over ears either.

Iems are just comfy

[fair pawn]

Ah I tried iem before but I guess I don’t find it fit as much as headphone does

And I already have a decent headphone selection at home at the moment

[candid cosmos]

Hehe

Same but with iems

[fair pawn]

It’s going to be hard to try some IEM lol

Maybe one day I will find an IEM that I like

But man IEM is almost a blind buy and hope for the best

Not much place to demo

Especially with all the new recent brand

[fair pawn]

Where do you manage to try out the IEM?

[candid cosmos]

I just try them myself

So far i only didnt like the Zero reds.

[fair pawn]

I see

Hmmm I don’t know what will suite my preference lol

[candid cosmos]

Get the moondrop chu and Fall in love xD

[fair pawn]

My current pair of daily headphones is Final D8000

[candid cosmos]

Hard to try then

[fair pawn]

And aside from that I also have HD800s and Beyer T1.2

I had asked before and I think someone said something about crimson?

[candid cosmos]

Idk

[fair pawn]

I don’t know if that is similar

[candid cosmos]

[fair pawn]

Hmm if they have a demo in the next canjam then I will consider going to test it out

Otherwise it’s really a shot in the dark

Kinda regret not trying the moondrop stuff when I was in Japan

It was right there

[candid cosmos]

Jeeeeez i want this too

Better than buying everything

[near pelican]

Hello! I've got questions about longevity/repairability for audio interfaces.

I've had this Notepad 12fx from Soundcraft for 3 years. It started getting a buzz/crackle in the background a week ago and now has a constant buzz with NOTHING plugged in. I can see the lights moving with nothing but power and plugging headphones directly in lets you hear it. Even with all inputs turned off too. I've plugged it into two different circuits completely away from any other cables/devices.

So....

1. How long should they last with daily use?

2. Can you repair them? And is there a forum I may be able to get help with repair instructions?

Thanks for any assistance!

And I'm more asking for a forum on electronics repair in general. I'm not sure which would be best for tips.

[molten lotus]

So I have a pc and a PlayStation. I was playing on my pc when I heard a static noise so I grounded my pc case, but still I was hearing the static noise. I tried it on my PlayStation controller and then I heard nothing until I put my charging cable in it and heard a static noise again. So if it’s Bluetooth I hear nothing but wired it’s making a sound. I don’t know how to fix this

[rough oasis]

Looking for some good Cans, i don't want to get too fancy with a Dak and all that so USB is preferred, Plan on getting Desk Mic. Any suggestions?

[wheat moss]

Just open it up and start looking for any weirdness to begin with

Assuming you're not rounding up to 3 years there, its out of warranty since the warranty is 3 years lol

[lean grove]

Usb headphones have a DAC included it's just hard wired into the headphones and non replaceable.

How much do you wanna spend

[near pelican]

Yeah planning on that. A little exploratory surgery

[steel escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403909858287550467/1204832423771246672/image.png?ex=65d62aa2&is=65c3b5a2&hm=66b74b6ad01f6b8341933d70ba5627794bca47af1cc103b3c444279e7f6d3f64&

@warm scarab rate the sex appeal

of the stand

[lean grove]

Three

[rough oasis]

I mean an external DAC if i can avoid it, and i can go as high as 300 usd

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell or pc38X would be my recommendations

[rough oasis]

How are the MICs?

[lean grove]

Pretty good. You can find a ton of mic tests online.

The Maxwell has God-tier mic noise cancelling

[rough oasis]

I'll get the Audeze Maxwell then, thank you

[warm scarab]

its tilted

broken ass stand

2/10

[warm scarab]

pc38x is the best sounding headset mic ive heard

maxwell's sounds bad but has good noise cancelling

[steel escarp]

[warm scarab]

which I don't think is necessary but

[warm scarab]

i legit cant believe you paid money for this

id rather use a coathanger

[steel escarp]

I got it for 80

Instead of full price

100

[warm scarab]

lmfao

you paid 80e for this

[steel escarp]

Yes

100% worth imo

[warm scarab]

the ali wood stands are better looking

the omega symbol ones

[steel escarp]

I have 3 of those

[rough oasis]

ohh

[steel escarp]

They flatten your pads

Idk what to do with them

[warm scarab]

you can just listen for yourself

google it

[warm scarab]

tbh true

[steel escarp]

I mean they don't flatten xs pads

Since that headphone has 0 clamp

Do you want one?

[warm scarab]

no i don't want to pay for shipping

also literally use one of the hanging ones

instead of clamp ones

it just stretches the headphone and crushes the pads

unnecessary item

[steel escarp]

I don't like hanging style stands for headphones with a suspension strap

[rough oasis]

ShortCircut video go

[steel escarp]

@warm scarab

just imagine that susvara strap

being completely shit on

I have seen worse straps

like this

the guy put this picture on his ad for selling his susvara

people who store their headphone like this should get laid off from their jobs

[lean grove]

He's got a phantom 💀

[warm scarab]

hang it from the metal bro

not the suspension strap

[steel escarp]

[fair pawn]

at the very least he unplugged the headphone

[lean grove]

id rather he unplug the phantom

[fair pawn]

V1 or V2?

[fair pawn]

[steel escarp]

v2 stealth

[fair pawn]

I'm thinking of picking up a pair of SE

but I can't make up my mind lol

[steel escarp]

have you heard them side by side

[fair pawn]

when I was in Japan

but was having jet lag

so can't really diffrenciate at time

[steel escarp]

I didn't like the SE when I heard it, but it could be the weird tube chain it was hooked up to

[fair pawn]

hmmm

debating between LCD-4 or HEKSE

[steel escarp]

would that even be close at all

[fair pawn]

well headphone at $2K+ region is personal preference

it's like give and take

[steel escarp]

an lcd-4 is like 4k

you might as well get a second hand susvara for that money

[fair pawn]

Susvara will literally break my bank

not because of the Sus

but the Source Chain

[lean grove]

buy tungsten

:>

the d8000 le is also pretty cool and can be run off a dongle

[warm scarab]

just stop being an audiophile

its that easy

[lean grove]

yeah just be like klaus

[fair pawn]

I have

😄

I like it

oh wait

LE

hmmm

[lean grove]

the LE is a little warmer than the pro

[fair pawn]

not significant enough of a difference to splurge tho

[lean grove]

smidge less treble in i foret where

oh its out of stock

gotta find it used

[fair pawn]

I don't mind used

Final used are generally ok

good build quality

[lean grove]

low clamp + sturdy materials

worst case scenario the pads are covered in goop or something

[fair pawn]

I just like planar more

[lean grove]

oh you already have a d8k

[fair pawn]

yeah

so kinda more of a small "upgrade" compare to the LE

[lean grove]

yeah. you can probably have the same effect with some mods on the pads or something

or EQ

[fair pawn]

so that leaves me with Audeze or Hifiman

and both have relatively bad QC

[lean grove]

https://www.mimic-audio.com/products/modhouse-tungsten-double-sided-mimic-edition

was better than any of the hifimans or audeze's i heard at canjam

[fair pawn]

huh

damn I really need to go to somewhere to try out all of these

[lean grove]

canjam

[fair pawn]

NY one is too expenseive

SoCal is not until later Sept

I live in Vancouver BC so

[lean grove]

oh rip

[warm scarab]

how much is the entry

or are you talking about housing

[fair pawn]

yeah the Hotel + Flight

literally on the other side of NA

at that point I can just blind buy a new headphone already

[rare swift]

Elgato dx with steelseries wirless headset? Anyone got them working together

[lean grove]

no i dont have either of those sorry 🙁

[warm scarab]

but you cant blind buy 200 of them

and test them

and return them

[steel escarp]

Watch me

[fair pawn]

True

Well I buy them and I collect them

I don’t return it

Even if I don’t like it

[steel escarp]

Always return it, even if you like it

[fair pawn]

nah, I like to have a “shop like” experience in my room

also I found a pair of used Focal Bathys for $330 usd

kinda tempted

or Clear OG for $370 usd

[warm scarab]

garbage collector

[unique wind]

real

98% of headphones are just actual garbage

[dreamy tinsel]

hello i want to if i can add this to my pro x2 headset

i want the enable the loudness when i play PUBG i cant hear footstep at all

[fair pawn]

Try it yourself, it’s not like you can’t turn it off after

[dreamy tinsel]

i mean on my pro x2 i dont have this tab

[fair pawn]

Audio is all about preference

[dreamy tinsel]

i want to ask if there a way to like make it louder

[fair pawn]

Make just the footstep louder?

Probably some EQ software

But I don’t use EQ so idk

[steel escarp]

cant you just turn everything but player noises down in the game or something

[cold token]

apologies for the late reply, but what would u personally recommend for an entry level individual?

[lean grove]

https://www.thomannmusic.com/swissonic_a305.htm

[cold token]

sounds good, also just for curiosity, is there a major difference between the A05 and the A08?

[lean grove]

there's the A306 and A308 as well, they have a bigger woofer which are gonna play louder, go deeper, but are gonna need more room and need to be placed more inteligently to sound their best

[cold token]

alright, also another dumb question (severely dumb), Is it 110 bucks for the A305 for a singular speaker or is it for a set of two?

im just curious since 110 feels a bit low and i wanna be careful with this

[lean grove]

That's for one speaker

[cold token]

makes more sense, then in that case I'll go for this since I might use stands for them as well (if they're needed) https://www.thomann.de/ie/swissonic_a305_stand_bundle.htm

[unique wind]

dang edition xs refurb is down to $279

[lean grove]

Almost tempting

[unique wind]

fr

its actually down to "fuck it why not" price tier now

[tepid torrent]

damn

makes me almost want to think about it

[warm scarab]

same

[steel escarp]

Poor ass mfers

Buy susvara

[fair pawn]

Where as I have a 2nd hand market too good to be true here

And can’t decide what’s the better purchase

What seems to be the best deal

All in CAD lol

Kinda want the LCD2

[dreamy bear]

I have a hyperx quadcast, should I add a pop filter, wind screen, or what should I add too it?

[dreamy bear]

I have ptsd from audio technica

it was too sensitive, it could pickup the highway a mile away

literally

[lean grove]

I don't think audio technica makes a single thing

[fair pawn]

They make huge boxes

For a pair of headphones

[haughty girder]

Mic arm

[dreamy bear]

AT 2020 is what I had

[warm scarab]

turntable cartridges

[rare swift]

Anyone know how to use Wave XLR with wirless headset

[dreamy bear]

can you not ping 3 different people replying with I don't believe you

[warm scarab]

he got muted

@lean grove average nils L

get good

[lean grove]

You're not gonna believe this but pinging three people the same exact message in quick succession gets you muted by an automod

[warm scarab]

it muted you because you were bad

[lean grove]

Show me how it's done Mr account created on July 13th 2023

[haughty girder]

so your problem is that you don't have a mic arm

[dreamy bear]

an arm wouldn't remove the highway sound

[haughty girder]

which just proves how little you know about mics lmao

the point of an arm is so that you can put it right beside ur mouth

which increases SNR and means you can drop gain, also reducing the sound of everything else that's not ur mouth

[fair pawn]

Welp

One more to the collection

[dreamy zephyr]

ok so I've been wondering for years how this thing actually works so could someone tell me? Note this is the original version so there aren't invisible words that the pen reads like the new ones do.

[warm scarab]

it would

since you wouldn't need 80% of the gain you currently use lol

[dreamy bear]

how would something to hold ur microphone help

[haughty girder]

Hey uhm

I couldn't help but notice that you completely ignored my explanation?

[warm scarab]

nexgen explained it pretty well

[wraith sage]

any suggestions for a good mic under 150?

[lean grove]

elgato wave

[wraith sage]

will look into it thanks

[fervent tangle]

So I was told the AirPods 2 were the best Bluetooth earbuds for the price point. Are there any good closed back headphones for gaming for 160 ish usd?

[sour timber]

my many year old beats solo 3 finally broke. thing litterally snapped in half when i went to put it on. What would be a good headphone replacement.
These would be used mostly at the gym or during a private little jam out. needs great battery life. I listen to a lot of Ghost and rock/metal and want it to sound great with that type of music

[floral vigil]

if you already have a mic id reccomend getting a good open back set thats just headphones. you may have some sound leakage but you will have a much larger soundstage

[fervent tangle]

I don’t have a mic

[fair pawn]

New family pic, now time to work on getting a Hifiman and Focal…..

[warm scarab]

for an open back or with an open back?

[fervent tangle]

Any good Bluetooth wireless headphones/earbuds to use out in public doing outside stuff(public transportation etc)?

[digital forge]

I can repair these. If you can ship it to me in Auburn AL I am confident I can repair it.

[digital forge]

this is either a ground loop caused by mismatched ground at the power outlets or a bad ground on the cables. Try testing all the cables. and if you lift the ground [assuming the plug is 3 wire.] on the mixer,

Hi group. My Mackie MC-100s are feeling their age. I want to replace them but the market is loaded with options. What is a good comfortable long lasting open air headphone under $100us?

[warm scarab]

open air headphone?

you mean for outside use

[digital forge]

Or a CAR!!! holy sh*t I wouldn't want that much inversted [spent] on a headphone.

[digital forge]

If I lived in Vancouver and LMG had a store I would practically live in the store... LOL

[digital forge]

open back. I don't want to be isolated so I can hear my wife calling my name from the other room even if I'm watchin a movie

[warm scarab]

you can't really get decent open backs sub 100$

better stick to closed ones

or in ears

he400se is the cheapest open back I'd consider worth buying

[slim oyster]

Hello, I used HyperX Cloud Revolver for almost 5 years, thought its time to upgrade, so I got Audeze Maxwell, had very great reviews, and so I'm testing them and I am completely disapointed, the audio quality for both Music and Gaming is much worse, adjusting EQ did not help at all, how's that these headphones for 3x more price are so garbage over the HyperX Cloud Revolver? Am I doing something wrong? I tried both wired and wireless

also the comfort is way worse, these Maxwell has speakers closed to the ears so they actualy bumbs to the ears unlike Revolver having them more in the back so its more confortable, the weight is also higher at Maxwell.... the only thing that these headphones are better is noise cancelling and that the wireless option, nothing more

[lean grove]

How long have you been using the Maxwell?

[slim oyster]

for about 10 minutes

maybe 20

if I was comparing sound clarity for both Gaming and Music, 10 being absolutely best phones in the world
I would say
Revolver - 9
Maxwell - 6
its just that bad, not only for me, I called 2 other people if im deaf or something, but they said the same

[warm scarab]

if you used a garbage headset for 5 years

then you wont get accustomed to a different sound in 10 minutes

use them for two or three days

then swap back to the revolver to compare them

[slim oyster]

I let 2 other people try the 2 headsets, the people that does not even use any headsets, does not play games at all, they said the same

[warm scarab]

I think they just felt peer pressured lmao

its not like you can't get accustomed to bad audio

same goes for food and other stuff

anyhow I am not saying force yourself into believing that maxwell is good

I am saying you should use it for a few more days

you can't phyiscally redjust your ears that have been accustomed to a headset in 5 years in 20 minutes

[lean grove]

That's not long enough. Your brain gets adjusted to the headphones used to and considers that "normal"

You don't know if it's better until you can get fully adjusted, which might take a few hours or a few days or more.

[slim oyster]

I was thinking more like if I got some faulty one, if anyone received like that

[lean grove]

Listen to them nonstop for a few days and if you don't like them after that then return them.

But 10 minutes is like. Barely any time to make a consensus for headphones

In fact 10 minutes is barely any time to make a consensus for anything at all

[fervent tangle]

What are some good Bluetooth headphones I can use in public in public transportation plane rides etc my budget is 150-210 usd

[slim oyster]

well, I remember when I got my Revolvers, I could immediatly notice big difference, I was immersed by the sounds in the game, previously I had Cloud II, then Audio Technica Ava-400 then Revolver, but I guess I can give the Maxwell 2-3 days and see after that if I switch back how things are

[elder thistle]

you

yes

that is a mackie headphone

but it's one of the two out of the 5 that I didn't like that much

putting tape over two of the vents on the driver magnet brought the treble up which was cool, but still kinda average for $30 it would seem

[elder thistle]

you might be able to pull off an mc450 for around $130, and that's a whole other conversation but yes

I haven't tried any open backs around $100 other than the he400se

audio technica ath-ad500x is on my list for things for me to try

seeing that you're able to fix audio interfaces, you may want to look for parts-only open backs where the sound cuts out or the right side has no sound. often (but not always!) one of the wires came loose or snapped. I get quite a few headphones cheap this way.

[near pelican]

I appreciate the offer. I cracked it open yesterday and saw no signs of shorts, nothing loose, no weird smells. All connections looked pristine. Any idea what it could be?

[lean grove]

I'll trim your armor for free. I need to get my smithing skill up

[steel escarp]

Nils did you actually demo the maxwell

[lean grove]

I heard it at canjam

[steel escarp]

Closed back impressions are the only canjam impressions that are somewhat meaningful

[lean grove]

Well Warwick audio has their lil booth

And iems

Also there was one guy who was literally maxing out all the amps on headphones. Sounded like someone was listening to music on a laptop full blast.

The stax room dudes had to tell him to lower the volume.

[steel escarp]

Lmao, imagine he blows something up

[lean grove]

Was easily listening at 110-120db

[steel escarp]

I could go to canjam london, but can't be bothered to pay a crazy amount of money for a hotel

[lean grove]

Yeah I could have definitely been smarter about how I spend my money. I spent like $400 more than I needed to on the hotel.

Everyone said that walking is shitty in Dallas but I literally walked everywhere in the area and was fine

[crude axle]

Anyone recommend any good wireless earbuds in the £70 range? I had the sound core liberty 4 NCs but they were too big for my ears and hurt to wear so I had to return them

[warm scarab]

for a lot of americans walking is gods greatest challenge

[steel escarp]

raycons

[crude axle]

I saw them on Amazon for 80 quid but I've heard they're ass

[steel escarp]

They are

[crude axle]

There's a lot of Anker stuff on there

What about Sony's?

[lean grove]

You can see how much I walked at canjam and how much I didn't immediately after returning and having to deal with being sick.

[lean grove]

Moondrop space travel

[crude axle]

These look interesting but they're kinda cheap, are they any good quality? I'm not a big audiophile I just want something with good sound

IEMs have like a flat EQ or something iirc?

[lean grove]

They're well tuned and have a chunky case. You're gonna have to look at reviews for how their build and fit are gonna be

But iem is just a more specific name for earbuds. They specifically mean the ones that go in your ears

As opposed to something that just kinda sit at your ear hole and blasts sound into it

[crude axle]

Oh okay I thought IEMs were for like audio masterers who need a flat EQ or something

Idk I just don't usually expect any good sound quality from something that low priced it almost seems too good to be true

[lean grove]

Flat only exists for speakers.
Headphones and iems do not have a true "flat" sound signature.

[crude axle]

I see

[lean grove]

You can say neutral but there's different flavors of neutral and what it means.

And even then. A lot of iems are some sort of neutral with a bit of flavor added on top.

[crude axle]

Well I'll take them into consideration, thank you 🙂

From reviews though, apparently the bass is a bit lackluster

I kinda like having a good bass

[warm scarab]

they sound pretty good

[crude axle]

I wish I was able to hear them and test them before buying them

It was a real bummer to have to return those other earbuds because they sounded good they are just too painful to wear

[elder thistle]

I'd put them against common $50 eq'd headphones

[uneven escarp]

Plugged speakers with an amp into a 4inch 15 watt subwoofer with an amp that can already supply 5 watts to the speakers. It may require 2 outlets but holy shit it’s the best computer audio setup I’ve personally heard

Took the subwoofer from the Logitech X-240 and got some random Cambridge Soundworks speakers from goodwill for $9 🔥

[lean grove]

It only gets better from there

[slim oyster]

I used Maxwell for several hours, but I cannot wear them anymore, it just hurts my ears, its very uncomfortable headset to wear.... anyway, after the swap, I could say Maxwell has nice bass, but terrible mid and treble, I tried to adjust it, but the software to it is just complete pile of trash, I cannot adjust single frequency without the software crashing or bugging, so I've tried already existing presets, Immersive, Treble Boost and others, but, in games or videos or movies, the mid and treble for example voice dialogs, rain and stuff like that, is just horrible in compare of Revolver..... so again the only thing that Maxwell has better I wish Revolver had, was noise isolation and bass.... if they were at least comfortable to wear, but this is pointless to keep them, I tried to be nice on em and honestly could not wait to try them before they arrived but... disapointment

[shadow stag]

hey

i have a speaker that supports something like 30-40hz minimum on the frequency response, is this better checked or not? i dont have a subwoofer

the only vague difference i notice is the bass being more noticeable but it could be placebo

[gleaming junco]

I had a cheap pair of speakers once and they did have bass

You'll usually notice with membrane vibrating back and forth when the bass drops

Although I don't know if this is a universal thing for speakers, but it should be

[shadow stag]

mine has bass, sometimes i cant hear it but it vibrates a lot when theres a lot of bass

genius sp-u1150x is the speakers model

when i change the setting in the realtek speakers the sound slightly changes

i think using a digital output like displayport or hdmi doesnt make much difference

and worse, using virtual audio cable through it introduces noise

any idea why it could be?

the artifacts are in the bass mostly

[hasty tide]

hey, whats the best wired-wireless over ear headphones for ~50-100$ (but like closer to 50$ if i can)? I want something where i can be wired for FPS games for no latency and unplug them when i wanna chill on my bed etc.

[molten lotus]

I want a new mic for my pc. Does anyone know a good mic for a good price?

[fervent tangle]

What are some good Bluetooth headphones I can use in public in public transportation plane rides etc my budget is 150-210 usd

[unique wind]

i copped some airpods pro 2

they’re decent with a little spotify eq

needed to add some treble and cut down the upper bass a hair

truthear novas still slap these but convenience is more important when im using earbuds on mobile

[steel escarp]

They are nice for at the gym

[haughty girder]

there's a difference between having bass and having good bass

even bigger difference between sub and midbass

most speakers will have plenty of midbass, and have no subbass at all due to rolloff

[lethal sky]

yes i made a extra white xlr cable

[zinc rain]

Anyone know how to get a USB mic to set higher quality in windows?

I remember being able to set my mic to like studio quality in windows, but now I can only set it up to DVD quality

[haughty girder]

DVD quality is more than anyone using a USB mic will need

DVD is 16bit 48khz right

[zinc rain]

I don’t remember exactly but cool

[haughty girder]

yea so dw about it

it makes 0 difference to 99.9% of people

[mighty pier]

okay so i bought a guitar n stuff and the amp i have has an open back but my friend has a closed back whats the difference?

[lean grove]

The back is open on yours and closed on your friend's

[fossil zinc]

I have a qudelix 5k on order, I am currently using a sennhiesser pc38x
Anything I need to know about this dac

[lean grove]

It can use the mic on your pc38x but it might sound bad

[fossil zinc]

Gotcha will I get a bump in sound quality over the Apple dongle

And in the future I may get the meze 109 pro’s

[lean grove]

Probably. It has a lot of tools to change that over the Apple dongle like EQ, changing filters, cross feed.

[fossil zinc]

thanksa

just realized i needed cables to go with it lol

made sure they said qudelix compatible

[lean grove]

Oh and the mic might be weird

Idk if it's guaranteed to work over USB

[rose jacinth]

Is the SE2200 a good Microphone

[quiet ether]

thoughts on the Sennheiser HD 569 headphones :p

[warm scarab]

bad

[pulsar canopy]

so i have some speakers that are equiped with powercon and xlr both ran thrue my rack amp, but im looking for a smaller desktop amp that can still run em but without being in a 2u short rackmount frame

or sorry they run large 6.5mm jack the audio amp has xlr and jack in

[fervent tangle]

Is there a head rest and or ear pads for the HD 6xx?

[pulsar canopy]

from what i heard on the wan that new sponser does have compatible earpads

or should for as well as i remember em

[fervent tangle]

I checked but I don’t think it’s compatible with this model. I’m new to headphones tho I’m not sure

[pulsar canopy]

if its the same shape and such it might fit tho its listed if it does

[fervent tangle]

U think this would fit on the 6xx’s https://wickedcushions.com/products/sennheiser-drop-pc38x-replacement-earpads?variant=40722687459407

It has a pic of the compatible ones but idk if they forgot to update the graph or smth

[pulsar canopy]

idk it states compatability with all the hd500's but idk how much it and teh 600's differ

if i were you id send them a support message about it as it may just be a newer model that hasn't been tested for or something or it may have been one that it didn't fit on

[fervent tangle]

Hey that’s smart. Thanks

[haughty girder]

The thing is, HD6xx (and 600) sound their best with the stock pads

since pads are part of the headphone's tuning

[pulsar canopy]

such things do wear out over time, and idk in this case, but usualy you can't really get replacements from factory

or you may have issues with the oem's due to how shallow they may be

[haughty girder]

With Sennheiser 6x0 you can order from themselves

[haughty girder]

I've never encountered someone who has issues with stock pads

[warm scarab]

you can order original 6** pads

[pulsar canopy]

i have on some headsets with relitively shallow pads where my ears would toch the inside of the headset, its why i don't really use em anymore

[pulsar canopy]

cool im not the one with the 6xx so this is useless information to me

[elder thistle]

where is the headphone where you can't order replacement earpads

wait... hd560s maybe

insert hd559 earpad link here

[warm scarab]

i mean you were the one recommending aftermarket pads

which are detrimental to the sound

[loud schooner]

An6y sugestions for best gaming headset for about 150

[pulsar canopy]

i have an older akg k141 and a k240, altho ive not used a headset/ headphones in a good 5~6 years

[elder thistle]

k240 pads are easy

[pulsar canopy]

they wern't available here

and they are to shallow for me as well

[warm scarab]

cloud 2

nova 7 is alright if you must have wireless

[pulsar canopy]

but stil my qestion was if anyone knew an amp with powercon that wasn't a 2u useing 35mm fans

[warm scarab]

has a bright af spot in the highs though

[loud schooner]

are they the best for gaming

[pulsar canopy]

there is no reall best for gaming...

[loud schooner]

very good then

[pulsar canopy]

unless it can id sounds and amplify certain sounds but thats cheating much like retical monitoirs\

[warm scarab]

if you want to prioritize gaming dt880 or tygr 300r have great imaging

imaging is the ability to directionalize sound btw

or give you the feeling of it for better locate sound sources

these however are not headsets

so you would need an external microphone

[loud schooner]

what about the dt 99 pro

[warm scarab]

you mean the dt990?

[loud schooner]

Yes

[loud schooner]

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-gb/creator-pack

[warm scarab]

they are directly worse than dt880 i dont know why you would want them

[warm scarab]

awful.

I don't know what to say but we survey the market for this hobby day in and out, while it isn't impossible, I don't think looking up arbitrary audio systems/packs will be able to outdo what has been recommended already

feel free though its your time after all

[loud schooner]

under stand that but i have had the Nova 7 and they were awful. so if i dent for dt 800/990 i will need a mic aswell

[warm scarab]

i mean you could ask us for a mic

seiren mini or t669 are cheap mic options

i recommend pairing them with the cheapest mic arm you can find

and a mic arm is very important mind you, using them on your desk is very impractical and bad sounding unless you are like midget sized

[loud schooner]

what heaphones do you use for gaming

[lean grove]

i use the sennheiser hd800

very good highly recommend

[warm scarab]

r70x

[loud schooner]

looking to get the dt 880 but not sure what amp to get with them

[warm scarab]

you dont need one

as long as you don't get the 600ohm version

[loud schooner]

will i need an audio card then

[haughty girder]

We were talking specifically about 6x0.

[warm scarab]

your motherboard is one

[lean grove]

the one built into your motherboard should be sufficient for the 250 ohm and below

[haughty girder]

then don't give recommendations

[warm scarab]

(in this context)

[lean grove]

in most contexts

when i had the 250 ohm i plugged it into literally everything i could find from my mom's old laptop to the home theater reciever and i didnt find anything it didnt work with

and if for some reason your motherboard is a repurposed hp office computer on its last legs, then you can get a dongle for $10

[warm scarab]

i meant that as in 250ohm dt880

because ohm by itself dont mean anything

since sensitivity and shit

[lean grove]

oh yeah i see what you're saying

i meant the 250 ohm beyers and below

you know if beyerdynamic didnt make these stupid variances the question of "what does impedance mean" could be turned into like 3 sentences

or turn it into "dont worry about it"

[loud schooner]

best headphones with mic for 150 for gaming

please dont suggest something for like 50 cuz u thing its good would like some thing no less than 100

[lean grove]

Pc38x

[elder thistle]

where is thomann mc450 stock when it's convenient

it's not there like 23/26ths of the time

[candid cosmos]

Thing is, with iems it even common for them to be extremely good Sub 100

[lean knoll]

is having my pc audio go thru a 1500 watt receiver, then pumping out 5 polk large speakers with dolby atmos overkill? i want my neighbors to know what game im playin..

[gray kelp]

is there a 6xx with more bass and soundstage that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?

[unique wind]

not really no

the hifiman edition xs can give you fantastic bass and soundstage if you use EQ but it won’t have as smooth treble as the 6xx

[gray kelp]

yeah that just sounds like a different headphone

6xx magic is the midrange and treble

in that case is there a 6xx with more bass, I guess I don't really need soundstage

[steel escarp]

6xx is all midrange, no treble

[gray kelp]

yes that sounds about right

[warm scarab]

then just eq

[unique wind]

it has some of the best treble wym

just don’t have hearing damage that necessitates a hifiman boost

[steel escarp]

This is about how it sounded

Everything comes from in front of you

[lean grove]

Grey is upset that the sound is too focused and accurate

He needs a more diffused less coherent sound field for real performance

[unique wind]

real

the stage is supposed to be center front grey that’s how it works

the hifiman dip destroys that localization

[steel escarp]

"focused"

he1000v2 stealth is not diffused

at all compared to other hifiman

[steel escarp]

again, despite the dip my he1000v2 stealth have front centered vocals

I need a susvara so bad for that really natural timbre

I'll get one when I get my contract extended to a permanent and get a raise

[lean grove]

HE six thousand dollar

[unique wind]

there are no super expensive headphones that i’d be willing to buy into tbh

lcd-5 with eq is excellent but it gets rekt by head hair and then you have to send it in for repair

expanse and stealth measure very well on test dummies but not so well on real heads

[lean grove]

Maybe one of the raal headphones or an estat

Something funny and unconventional

[unique wind]

if i had hella money maybe id play with funny gear but im more in the camp of im spending $5k on headphones they need to do it all

[lean grove]

You can get that for less than $5k easily

But the difference is that the really expensive unique headphones do something nothing else can

[unique wind]

there are so few headphones that do upper treble nicely

but if 20-8000hz is your main concern then grab an edition xs with an aftermarket strap and use eq

done for little money

[lean grove]

I'm most concerned about being able to justify all the esoteric gear I've acquired and need something ridiculous to take advantage of it

[steel escarp]

LCD-5 does not sound smooth at all and it didn't sound as tall as the he1000v2 stealth

[unique wind]

did you use a harman eq profile with it

[steel escarp]

no

why would I EQ a 5000 dollar headphone

[unique wind]

that’s a shame you missed out

[steel escarp]

EQ is not viable in a showroom

[unique wind]

a portable dacamp that has parametric eq would be clutch for a show

[tawdry gale]

it costs an arm and a leg

[gray kelp]

okay I guess I stick with 6xx forever

[steel escarp]

LCD-5 would be a bit diffucult to drive on something portable like the Qudelix-5K

[lean grove]

Might clip, yeah

[unique wind]

the qudelix-t71 would probably be okay

pretty sure that has a lot more power

[lean grove]

It should be usable but if you wanna do any EQ, things are gonna be unhappy

The lcd-5 is like 14 ohms

The t71 says it can do 4v RMS, which should be plenty of voltage, but it might clip or distort pretty hard if it doesn't have the chutzpa

[warm scarab]

it says it can do 8v rms at high gain

i dont believe this lmao

[lean grove]

That's not really a high bar

[warm scarab]

8v at 10ma

[lean grove]

?

What are you looking at

That's also balanced

[warm scarab]

sarcasm nils

[lean grove]

?

[warm scarab]

?

[unique wind]

should be enough to get it to listening volume with eq

don’t need 115db peaks to evaluate a headphone

maybe i underestimate how loud headphone shows are though

[warm scarab]

110dB is the regular measuring point for whether an amp can drive a headphone or not

and because the amp can drive the headphone at 110dB doesn't mean it doesn't start distorting at that volume

[white gate]

The big thing people miss is crest factor.

If you're listening at 85dB, you likely have content going up to about 100-110dB.
SPL with a dB meter etc is almost always measured A-Weighted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqlcJnoIcGo

[lean grove]

There's always distortion.

[warm scarab]

distorting noticably

you and your semantics

nerd

[lean grove]

Maybe you should delete it and not repost it so often if it's causing you distress

[severe turtle]

wait

you are so smart

thanks man!

[lean grove]

👍

[elder thistle]

100-110db from 85db average is huge

maybe for very dynamic classical that's normal

in a lot of the music I listen to it's like +5db

or you could intentionally clip the transients because that's how the world should be and it's generally invisible

[unique wind]

same

[solemn slate]

real quick: 100 dollars, best headphones for comfort and audio quality

[unique wind]

hifiman he400se if you’re willing to use eq

it has inverted polarity and a dip in the upper midrange which can both be fixed in equalizerAPO

and then you can add a bass shelf if you want to

[supple robin]

you may be able to get k361 for that price

and maybe a used senneheiser 560s

you could also go for ksc75x or i think porta pros correct me if im wrong and unrelated to headphones but iems are good value at that price

[unique wind]

iems are definitely the way to go in the lower budgets unless you’re unwilling to use them

[crude axle]

I got these new sony WF-C700N, and they have good sound all around but the bass feels a bit lacking unfortunately

the noise cancelling doesnst feel as good either

i had the soundcore libertys but they hurt to wear cus they were so big

[barren pumice]

Really in need of suggestions in that price range also ones that won't destroy my ears over time.

[solemn slate]

your ears are sacrificable for the good cause of sound

[barren pumice]

what good will be sounds then If I don't have the ability hear them any longer?

[white gate]

It's not an 85dB average that's the point

85dB measured with an A-Weighted method (or dB meter) is not an average

[elder thistle]

all hardware and software meters I've used to measure dba or lufs require a time window to work

even dbu or optical compressors

[molten lotus]

Is this mic good for this price? It’s in sale and I don’t know anything about microphones.

[timid echo]

Anyone here know some good headphones I could get for not too expensive? Atm I have Moondrop aria iems and I don’t like them because they keep making weird buzzing noises and weird high pitched sounds, this is the second pair I have because they sent a replacement but it still happens on every device I plug them into.

[candid cosmos]

If the rest fits - its fun

Btw this is what harshcore Looks like - hard to see on a graph but it goes sub 15hz - with Power still there. - and its just a 12inch Sub... (plus big speakers )

You sure dont hear it, but you feel it - not like normal Sub, more like a earthquake - and my house Transports it very well )

[lean grove]

One for the cringe compilation

[cyan drum]

Why what’s cringe about it?

[lean grove]

What's cringe about annoying people?

[grim grove]

Can anyone recommend gaming wireless headset 100-200e

[supple robin]

see if you can get a q2u

[haughty girder]

I don't know why you're so proud of giving yourself hearing damage but you go ig

[timid echo]

which headphones do you guys recommend out of SRH440A, K361/K371

to use on my pc for things like gaming, music and watching youtube

[last grotto]

Which settings are better for Audio between the videos

[dreamy bear]

this is a blue yeti right

[haughty girder]

K371 >= K361 > SRH440a

unfortunately the 440a is weird

the og 440 and 840 are better

[grim mulch]

I don't have the ear for it, I'm just curious which would be better in theory

[warm scarab]

if the dac amp in the headphone is decent then it shouldn't be very distinguishable from a motherboard

though you may get the headphone to sound a bit better if you have a good dac/amp

[tender frost]

Right, IE200's had a good run but the right one just failed on me
What's a good all rounder iem in the £150ish range?

[lean grove]

Truthear hexa is pretty good.

[timid echo]

You think there’s any other options I should go for?

Or are those like the best for that price point

[unique wind]

truthear nova easily

if you prefer extra warmth in your tuning or find big iem shells uncomfortable then there is the simgot em6l

[tender frost]

So truthear hexa, Nova and simgot em6l are my options, neat
Any of them stand out as particularly fun? Sometimes I like getting punched in the head with bass but I do listen to a lotta metal lol

[unique wind]

i would not look at hexa personally

nova is basically perfectly tuned to harman out of box which gives it excellent clarity and subbass

em6l is similar but has more mid-upper bass which may make metal and rock more fun

i still kinda want to buy the KZ Castor Bass Edition because it has a silly amount of bass and it’s only $20

just to play with

[warm scarab]

even sharur gave up on nova after listening to it

[unique wind]

its still his main iem

he just prefers to use lcd 5 with eq or speakers

[haughty girder]

I believe it was FC construct that said the Truthear Reds are generally better than the Hexa

[lean grove]

Hexa's come with wide bore and narrow bore tips that change the tuning pretty heavily. Narrow bore tips add a ton of bass.

[haughty girder]

as well as the 10 ohm impedance adapter

[lofty copper]

Hello Logitech G Pro X or Steelseries Arctis Nova 3? Which one you would prefer? Let me know if this the wrong place.

[warm scarab]

if i had to pick g pro x

but if i didn't then neither of those

[crystal violet]

okay, so on sweetwater, i've got a limit of 100 bucks, whats the best headphones for under 100?

[warm scarab]

k361 if its below 100

[frozen lynx]

Just got some headphones that are supposed to be good for the price, gonna edit and game on them so hopefully they’re good enough

Was using AirPods before but wanted actual headphones

[fossil zinc]

Looking for a wired headphone
I live in Canada and my budget is 1000
I have a Qudelix 5k coming already
Will be used with a iPad Pro and iPhone 8
Would prefer a pleasant comfortable experience
Thinking closed backs so I don’t annoy my family
I was toying with the idea of meze 109 pro but they are open back
I don’t need super detailed highs tinnitus blurs anything over 14-15k
Prefer good bass extremely detailed mid bass and midrange

[warm scarab]

why the arbitrary portable amp dac

[warm scarab]

1000 canadian dollars?

[fossil zinc]

Yeah

[warm scarab]

how much is that in usd again

[fossil zinc]

About 700

[warm scarab]

you can't really get good closed backs however much you spend honestly

but if you do consider opens, hd650s is probably what fits your bill

if you want something mid but closed back akg k371 ig

[plain lark]

Sennheiser HD 280 Pro

[fair pawn]

Vancouver/Whistler BC?

[frozen lynx]

Because I had one at one point and liked it but lost it

[fossil zinc]

Ontario Bruce peninsula

[livid ruin]

the HD681’s sound better than the HD681 Evo but, the Evo have slighly better bq

iirc

check Koss

next time well…

[frozen lynx]

I have porta pros I use on my quest but I hate on ears

Not tried any of their over ear headphones yet

[frozen lynx]

I’ve heard the non evos are built way worse and are less comfortable, but have a slightly better accuracy.

[lean grove]

slightly better than the superlux is not a big hurdle

[livid ruin]

681 EVO’s vs 681’s

the EVO’s have detachable cable unlike the base version

and the cable on the 681 is prone to break

[crystal violet]

Does anyone recommend sennheiser HD 569 closed-back?

[buoyant vale]

[crystal violet]

what would you reccomend under 150?

i could maybe stretch my budget to DT 770 PRO 80 ohm?

[sturdy geyser]

are used speakers generally safe to buy?

[warm scarab]

if its working then yeah

[lean grove]

As long as you watch out for white van speaker scams.

[sturdy geyser]

Looking at z533 don’t really know if it’s good

[candid cosmos]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no they are not good

[sturdy geyser]

then what is?

I’m looking for something under 100 as I don’t really give a huge crap about sound

bluetooth would be useful

[lean grove]

If they're free or like $5 I think that would constitute worth it.

[lean grove]

Take a look at creative pebbles or edifiers

[sturdy geyser]

they’re 50

[sturdy geyser]

I looked at the pebbles but maybe I need a sub

[lean grove]

There's a version that comes with a sub

[warm scarab]

a decent sub costs several times the price of pebbles

[sturdy geyser]

I don’t really care about quality man

the current speakers I’m using are like 15 years old

[warm scarab]

so why get a subwoofer

[warm scarab]

mine are like 45

they sound pretty good

[sturdy geyser]

fps games

I usually use speakers but only use my headset when I’m playing with people

[warm scarab]

why does a subwoofer matter for fps games

and if it matters why doesn't the quality matter

[crystal violet]

Dt 770 pro 80 ohm or HD 599s

Opinions please, ping reply

[lean grove]

Have you considered the hd560s?

[crystal violet]

My price range is 160 max, just looking for a good listening experience, good capability for mixing occasionally, and for use with a bass guitar as I'm learning

The bass part isn't too important though, I have other headphones for that

But I'm stuck between those two

@lean grove

[warm scarab]

hd560s should fit into that budget

or dt880 250ohm

[crystal violet]

hd560s are 170 for me

[crystal violet]

DT 990 pro 250 ohm is in my budget

[warm scarab]

that is worse than the dt880

so don't

[crystal violet]

okay, my current recommendations from ppl are DT770 pro and HD 599, which do you think is better for listening and mixing?

[warm scarab]

neither

look I am not going to recommend you garbage

[crystal violet]

that's fair

[warm scarab]

id take dt770 if it was 10$

I would take 599 if someone paid me money to us them

[crystal violet]

that's fair

@warm scarab these any good?

[warm scarab]

i remember it being alright

but idk

i wouldn't really take them

i remember them being hard to drive too

[crystal violet]

ahh that's fair

[warm scarab]

not a very good behavior for studio headphones

[warm scarab]

ill double check this

[crystal violet]

you have a pair?

[warm scarab]

actually nah

its easy to drive

[warm scarab]

no they are just locally relevant headphones

i played around with them for a bit

nothing special

[crystal violet]

ahh okay, i'd be mostly using with laptop, and i think i have a portable amp somewhere thats like 150 ohm ? idk

[warm scarab]

amps don't have an ohm thing

take the akg k361 instead

k702 is just wacky sounding

weak bass

bit piercing highs

[elder thistle]

pretty hard for me to drive, maybe a little harder than the hd600

sensitivity's 91db/mw iirc

[fervent tangle]

How do I connect this mic to the anp

[steel escarp]

fuck it I am getting susvara tomorrow

[lean grove]

Make sure you pay the full $6000

[unique wind]

hifiman added yet another discount to their used stuff

another $50 off any open box product that costs more than $500

$39 off refurb products over $500

if we wait long enough maybe they’ll just give it away

[elder thistle]

use this hole

and then raise the input 1 volume knob pretty high

[steel escarp]

its 6700 eur in full here

[unique wind]

gyat damn

[steel escarp]

the best a retailer can do is sell for 6k if you ask for it

they still make like 700 off it despite already taking 700 off

[unique wind]

2.5mm refurb models are $3700 from hifiman

i would not pay double just to have a new one

idk if that option is available in europe tho

[lean grove]

its okay. let him spend the 6 grand

we cant stop him from making the first good audio purchase he's ever made

[unique wind]

[elder thistle]

I liked these when I had them

not much bass but big soundstage

I like the hd560s a little more than the dt990 250, but I still liked the dt990

I'm surprised you're finding it for 170

one moment

[crystal violet]

any opinions on HD599 or DT770 Pro?

[crystal violet]

ive been getting told both of these are good

[elder thistle]

wow hd560s price is actually partially sane now

well good is very subjective

a lot of the recommendations you'll be getting are based on tonality

which can be altered by eq for free, or mentally adjusted to over time for free

I like instrument separation as it's almost hand in hand with "resolution" imo

therefore I don't like the hd560s that much

I don't think it's competitive in most of the fronts I care about

but other people love it

also be advised that the hd560s appears to have been revised to now officially use hd559 earpads

[crystal violet]

hmm, i've just been told the DT770 are better for bass, as with most closed backs, but the 599 are lower impedance and easier to power

[elder thistle]

the actual hd560s earpads appear to be discontinued

the sound is now different

dt770 has what I'd call decent bass yes

in both volume and control

it's kinda lean in the upper bass, which is a style of it's own

[crystal violet]

that's very true

[elder thistle]

that can be eq'd differently

but I think the big thing with the dt770 is the soundstage

for me it was enormous for a closed back

like 5-9 feet

[unique wind]

cus it has an upper bass scoop and elevated treble

[crystal violet]

that's the confirmation i've been looking for lol

[unique wind]

it’s like a rough and old attempt at harman really looking at its response

[elder thistle]

nah, that doesn't do it. I can eq that differently and soundstage remains the same

[unique wind]

they had the right idea but not the tech

[elder thistle]

I only have the 80 ohm version btw

[crystal violet]

thats what id be getting

[unique wind]

same and i only have like 30 hours of total use on mine

[crystal violet]

the 80 ohm

[elder thistle]

I don't think it's as resolving as the 250 ohm dt990, so I'm assuming the dt770 250 is also an improvement

[crystal violet]

question, does it run well out of laptops?

[unique wind]

closed back headphones are my least favorite wearable audio

[elder thistle]

the 80 ohm will get pretty darn loud on most laptops yes

[crystal violet]

okay ty

[elder thistle]

your results with stage and such can vary

but that still seems to be the trend

it's nice when you can try the headphones before buying lol

[crystal violet]

this is the 770 pro

[elder thistle]

but that's rarely viable

[crystal violet]

this is the hd599

seems like the 770 has a lot more flat sound

[elder thistle]

that's an unusually flat looking dt770

[crystal violet]

yeah that was what i thought

[elder thistle]

the earpads might be worn down

but that's rtings, they should know better

[crystal violet]

hmm, odd

[elder thistle]

could just be their rig or that headphone had a lot of unit variance

there is no concrete model for an acoustically accurate human ear

[crystal violet]

yeah that's fair

every one is different

even on the same person

[unique wind]

it’s a compensated graph to the harman target

well it’s their target but it’s close to harman

[elder thistle]

actually mine's kinda similar

pads are worn down

my rig is different though. and that's harman 2018 flat bass

a lot of beyers seem to struggle with 4k

me when there's a $6 sale

looks like you're aiming for wide soundstage though

and bass

[steel escarp]

it doesn't sit well with me to get one used

[steel escarp]

I feel very conflicted about getting a sus

frequency response plays a big part of the susvara's natural timbre

I have replicated it quite well with eq

[unique wind]

well you know what i’m gonna say

don’t buy it

you already have a high end hifiman headphone

[lean grove]

you should waste your money, gray. this time it'll work out.

🙂

[unique wind]

[warm scarab]

closed backs don't have better bass

or more due to being closed

[elder thistle]

usually there's more bass though

but in terms of quality I'd still take dt770 bass over hd560s bass

I can't imagine the hd599 is much better there

very start/stop, defined, more capable of texture and weird phasing

those are not necessarily properties of the bass exclusively, but they were properties I observed about the bass within music

but the hd599 doesn't have a whole lot of bass either

it has a lot of upper bass

you can eq that bass up, but it'll cost some volume headroom

which you should have plenty of unless you like to listen really loud

[elder thistle]

file

[warm scarab]

that's a market statement

if you overdamen the fuck out of every headphone they will all be bass heavy

[elder thistle]

nah

at some point it'll become a downward sloping headphone but with bass roll-off

headphones like the m50x are not that front damped either

the neumann ndh20 has very little front damping too

but it's ndh30 counterpart has a lot of front damping and struggles to keep the bass neutral

[steel escarp]

They didn't have susvara in stock

Fml

[unique wind]

they saved you

[shadow stag]

hey, on a shop i have nearby the following was available as far as mics and interfaces go:
sm57, sm58, beringher c1
steinberg u12

[mental plank]

Anyone got any good headset recommendation for gaming. Would prefer one with a mic on in case im going to be away xd. EPOS Sennheiser GSP 670 since ive been using a sennheiser for a while and im quite happy about it.

[wintry mirage]

what does this driver sensitivity actually mean

it says 117db but is that how loud it can play or what

[supple robin]

look at q2u online but i'd ask in other servers for microphones

[supple robin]

audeze maxwell ig

[shadow stag]

ah, sorry, i dont really have other servers for this

argentina here

[shadow stag]

im looking for something to record with, i think cardioid is better?
maybe a zoom portable recorder would be a better idea for field sampling

[warm scarab]

it means that it plays 117db at 1khz when you deliver the headphone driver 1mW

[wintry mirage]

so is a higher number better

or does it not matter to an extent

[warm scarab]

It doesn't really mean much apart from whether your system can play it back or not

this doesn't take impedance into account though

higher number is better if you want your system to be able to properly drive the headphones, for anyone with a decently powerful amp you can comfortably drive 98% of the headphones out there

[wintry mirage]

well its bluetooth anyway

but i think thats for wired mode

[warm scarab]

its sensitive as fuck anyhow

so doesn't matter

117dB/mW is super sensitive

[wintry mirage]

does that mean ill go deaf

[warm scarab]

you have a volume slider

[wintry mirage]

its usually towards the end

[warm scarab]

doesn't matter

different headphones have different volumes at different volume slider percentages

and its a logarithmic scale so the top 5 steps of your volume slider is several times more varying in volume than the ones at the bottom

eg going from 1/10 to 2/10 is a super minor change

going from 9/10 to 10/10 very large jump

[wintry mirage]

oh

[unique wind]

technically yes because being inefficient isn’t a desirable trait with a headphone, but in reality it’s not something that should be a factor in deciding what you buy

just buy a more powerful amp if a better headphone needs it

most headphones don’t need a powerful amp tho it’s fine

[wintry mirage]

im just replacing my old headphones that broke

all of the ones i bought from jbl still work after all the years of use

[elder thistle]

that sensitivity must be from an internal amp or a typo

[loud schooner]

Need help with my logitech pro x mic setup but not sure what to do with settings

[lean grove]

It might be db/V

At 32 ohms that makes more sense

[elder thistle]

good thinking

that'd account for about +15db I think

[lean grove]

That turns out to 102 db/mW

Which is in-line with what other audeze headphones are at

@warm scarab @wintry mirage it's 117 db/V

[wintry mirage]

oh

still dont know what that means but ty

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/PqlcJnoIcGo

[wintry mirage]

its wireless anyway

[elder thistle]

+3db for each doubling of power, +6db for each doubling of amplitude/voltage, +10 for "loudness"

it just means the specification was a typo and not unusual

normal headphones

[mighty kite]

@celest aspen maybe these guys could help

[celest aspen]

Thanks

Hey y'all. I'm starting an podcasting studio with a audience space. For the podcasters i'm using HiFi headphones. What sound setup should I use for the audience. Also what mixer should I use? My total budget for the whole studio is around $25K

I'm thinking about going with the SM7DB for the mics

And should I go Windows or Mac OS?

[lean grove]

$25k is a lot.

If it were me, I would get a Motu interface for high quality or a behringer interface for bang for buck. Get one with as many in's and outs as you need. Like if you have 4 talkers you can use a 4 in 4 out.

Behringer xm8500 is also a good option for mics, again bang for buck. Or even a shure sm58

You can get some headphone splitters. Really idk. You might have better luck asking in the podcastage discord.

Most people in here focus on hifi and consumer sound systems and it sounds like you want pro audio advice.

[celest aspen]

Thanks for your help

[cyan crow]

Is there any way of making these combo ports locking? They are neutrik. I’d rather not need to solder new ones on the pcb

[haughty girder]

depends on the specific part, but iirc you can buy the pins separately and they just clip into the top

[smoky terrace]

i've been looking into replacing my shitass gaming headset with a proper piece of audio gear

rn i picked the audient evo 4 because it's pretty, though it has a lot of recording features that i'll never use, but i'm undecided when it comes to the headphone

i was thinking about the drop sennheiser one because it has a combo mic that sounds pretty decent, and i don't really need a separate mic since i don't stream or record anything

the short circuit on the sennheiser EM 200 or whatever they're called (the entry level IEMs) sort of made me intrigued on them too

but then there's also the issue of music, i mostly listen on the go but you know, once i buy some good fucking headphones i might as well get a pair that can give me a decent music experience, even if i don't really treat music as an activity and more as something i put on in the background to keep my adhd at bay while i do something else

[elder thistle]

the headset mic won't work with the audio interface

not unless you get a rode vxlr+ and use the splitter that comes with the headset

open back headphones won't block out much sound, just very slightly muffle it. but if you're doing other things or need to know when someone tries to talk to you, it's kinda nice

not that different from bringing a bluetooth speaker with you (though other people won't hear it nearly as much)

though that little bit of muffling/isolation can still make it hard to understand what someone's saying if they don't speak up

[smoky terrace]

i don't really have that problem, i'm mostly alone at the pc

[smoky terrace]

ah shit that's a good point thanks

[smoky terrace]

what the fuck i just tried putting on my favourite song on apple music through my macbook m2 air to sony xm4s with cable
listening to the spotify version sounds MEASURABLY worse

[lilac spire]

Yeah

Apple music has better sound quality

I keep on getting roasted whenever i bring this up

[molten lotus]

Is the razer seiren mini a good mic?

[warm scarab]

you turned off the headphones didn't you

[warm scarab]

because its mostly false

apple doesn't have exclusive mode so the lossless output is resampled to the os sample rate

which makes the quality equivalent unless you adjust the os sample rate which is a dumb thing to do

[smoky terrace]

sure feels a lot better than spotify

[warm scarab]

unless the record is different

the uploaded record

that is objectively false

or you are using spotify in like the low quality setting

[smoky terrace]

nope definitely highest setting in spotify

[warm scarab]

are you swapping back and forth

if so the uploaded track is different

or you are getting hit with placebo

[smoky terrace]

idk what to tell you b it feels louder and more complete

[warm scarab]

loudness is a different factor than quality

you need to volume match both sources to blind test them

[smoky terrace]

shit i was listening to another song i know very well and i found another layer in the lows that i never realized was there

[warm scarab]

which could very well be a direct result of varying loudness

loudness raises the low end of dynamic range to the hearing spectrum

here you go, little dark age in spotify quality and apple music quality

doubt you can tell a difference between the two

[smoky terrace]

flac version feels punchier

the bass and the drums are more present

[warm scarab]

no it doesn't lol

they are both resampled to the os default

unless you use a program to have exclusive control of your system then both sounds wont exceed what is set to default by the windows

[smoky terrace]

idk man maybe i am deaf and maybe you hate apple

well i definitely have a percentage of hearing loss

[warm scarab]

no you are an incredible amount of placebo

also I didn't tell you that the flac version was the apple quality one

[smoky terrace]

i mean if it was the highest quality apple one i would have needed a dac

at least that's the warning you get when you crank it in apple music

[warm scarab]

you already have one