audio-tech

[warm owl]

I'll think about it

Still don't like apple as a company

[haughty girder]

That's fair

[warm owl]

They do nice products but the software and the gatekeeping stuff

[haughty girder]

but the product is still a good product unfortunately

[warm owl]

Yeah

[haughty girder]

I personally don't really have an issue with Apple, but I understand why people do

yea the stem style tws aren't exactly common among other companies that make good stuff

[warm owl]

I also hate that about 90% of people i know, especially at my school use iphones and don't even consider Android as an option. Their mentality is "what iphone am i getting" and not "what phone am i getting"

[warm owl]

Yea, I'd love it if sony or Samsung would do ones with stems

[haughty girder]

yea...

[haughty girder]

Also this is true, https://www.barrons.com/articles/apple-stock-teens-iphone-e5e58147

90% is actually really close to the statistic

[lean grove]

The features you're losing out on are battery indicator and accessing the settings for turning on anc or spatial audio. But you can set those in a friend's iPhone or a Walmart display iPad once and leave them as they are forever.

Even without those two things they're still the best tws I've tried.

[elder thistle]

buying the apple dongle,

is like buying an rx480 because everyone said it was good

it's no longer 2016. it doesn't have to be the apple dongle

at least it's still priced like the other dongles

but I saw someone buy 4 extra cables and adapters just to accomodate the usbc of an apple dongle

(they needed a really long cable that would've been a 1 component solution for usbA)

[warm owl]

@lean grove @haughty girder @warm scarab
I forgot i have an ipad 7

Can i control the airpods with that?

[warm scarab]

yes

[hasty temple]

guys give me good headset to buy

JUST TELL ME

[unique wind]

audeze maxwell

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell

[haughty girder]

lmao all apple devices can

that's literally perfect

set the airpods up, update, etc.

then just leave it and connect to phone

[lean grove]

I have an iPad from 2016 that can't.

[quaint nexus]

Really not an audio guy please help.
I have a headset (audio+mic) with a 3.5mm jack that I'm trying to connect to a pc. The PC has the 3 motherboard Jack's and the front io has 2 with headphone silkscreened on one port and microphone on the other. Where should I plug the headset into?

Am I correct in thinking I'll need a splitter and then I can plug into both ports?

[livid ruin]

guys i hate audeze

what do i get for it

[haughty girder]

weird, 2016 should be able to

I can test later today, though I only have an iPad air 1, 3 and pro 5

I do have an iPhone SE 2016 that I can try though

[livid ruin]

audeze maxwell alternative?

[elder thistle]

||jk||

[elder thistle]

what did you like and dislike about it?

[livid ruin]

i can’t pronouce the brand

[elder thistle]

can you pronounce ozzy

[livid ruin]

mmm

ozze?

[elder thistle]

good enough

[livid ruin]

audeze is au-dih-zee or au-deh-zee

[livid ruin]

naw, i struggled

maxwells are nice

[molten lotus]

I'm considering a SBX AE-5 card. OR the G6, which is external. Integrated realtek audio is sh*.

[ornate linden]

cause it is
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/228400876497272832/1199303366224916561/image.png?ex=65c20d4c&is=65af984c&hm=751da35ade0dbad62ddd5844f824b2925c4c1973269ca96223cbdbf98c59759d&

sai's graph is likely only possible with very precise placement that you won't get on an actual head or a specific HRTF

[lean grove]

There's zero reason to get an internal sound card for consumer audio.

[molten lotus]

???

what about positional audio in games?

[lean grove]

What about it

USB has enough bandwidth to handle the audio channels

You don't need to have an audio product locked into your pcie slot

If anything it's a useless expense that does more harm than good.

[molten lotus]

what? the sound processor is useless?

[lean grove]

The fact that it's pcie is useless

You don't need an internal sound card in 2024

You probably haven't needed one since like 2010

The virtual 5.1 is also arguably useless.

[molten lotus]

https://en.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blasterx-g6

[ornate linden]

does it properly run planors??

[buoyant vale]

No but it has serious audio performance

[molten lotus]

G6 is cheaper than AE-7

[haughty girder]

an 8 dollar apple dongle is has "serious audio performance"

your point?

[buoyant vale]

I'm sorry it was serious sound performance

[haughty girder]

great for marketing

not much else

[elder thistle]

I'd love to try their feature shenanigans

but it's a lot of money for something like that too

[lilac spire]

can anyone tell me any good headphones which have a cloth type of material and separate right and left audio channels. i used my friend corsair hs35 stereo and im looking for something like that in a similar price range

[unborn gale]

don't basically all headphones have separate right and left audio channels?

[lilac spire]

i might have used wrong terms

what i meant was headphones in which u can hear sound coming from different directions

like if ur playing a game and someone is walking to your right, you hear sound from your right ear instead of both ears

[elder thistle]

🤔

you might be referring to hard panned stereo audio

or the lack of virtual 7.1 surround sound or similar

many games are going to force audio to be in both sides of the headphones unequally because it's supposed to help with the illusion of a sound actually being on our right side

because irl a sound to my right will also go behind my head and into my left ear too (muffled because my skull is like talking through a wall)and taking just a little extra time to get there

but if a game does this and then your headphones are usb and have a part that decides "lets add even more of this!", that's bad

sometimes

minecraft is a good example of a game that has hard panned stereo audio by default

sometimes switching a game's audio mode to "speakers: 2.0/stereo" will make it do the same thing

as for the hardware side of things, you only need to make sure your headphones connect to your pc using 3.5mm. not USB

[lilac spire]

i understood absolutely nothing

[elder thistle]

uh

well it at least gets other audio people here on the same page with what I'm thinking

it is hard to describe solutions because it's hard for me to understand what exactly your sound sounds like

there are two things you could be talking about

stereo means two speakers or two sides of a headphone yes? left side and right side

panning means that if you have a sound that goes in both sides, how much it's going into each side

100% panned to the left means the volume of that sound is full volume on the left side but silent on the right side

50% panned / centered means both sides are the same volume with the same sound. the sound doesn't appear to have a direction or sound louder on either side

75% panned to the left means that both the left and right side are playing the same sound, but it is louder on the left than it is on the right

therefore your problem may be, with a sound in a game that is completely on the left side of your ear (100% panned left)

1. the sound you're getting right now is like 55% panned, so the left side is barely louder than the right side, and you don't like this

or 2. the sound you're getting right now is like 75% panned, so the left side is definitely louder than the right side, but the right side still has volume. you don't like this. you'd rather have the sound appear 100% in your left ear and completely missing in the right ear.

in real life without headphones or speakers, we hear a sound directly left of us as if it were 75% panned to the left

so you may say you want option 1 because you want it to sound more like real life

but we have no way of knowing how panned your audio currently is

it could already be like real life and you just want the sounds to be super panned to the left completely (100%) with zero sound in the right when something is to your left

||(this is an innaccurate description for how games and real life work in terms of sound. it's not just panning. but for simplicity we're saying it's panning because that's all you need to understand)||

[warm scarab]

budget?

[lilac spire]

Under 100 ig

Corsair hs35 stereo is what i want but its not available everywhere in my area

[warm scarab]

akg k361

[lilac spire]

Ok lemme see

[warm scarab]

a lot better than the hs35

[lilac spire]

It has a leatherette finish tho

I have not had good experience with those

It starts to rip

[warm scarab]

its not like you have a lot of options at 100 usd man

take it leave it

go get in ears if you want

[steel escarp]

With inflation what was 100 dollar in 2019 is now 120 dollars. Still can't get anything good for that tho.

[warm scarab]

there is also the cloud 2 if you want

sennheiser game one

pc37x

not sure which is what price but all should be around 100$

[lean grove]

If it makes you feel better, the perception of money hasn't increased with the increase in cost of products. So you can give someone $50 and it would have the same emotional value as a $100 gift.

[crisp glen]

has anyone had an issue where they hear white noise in their headphones?

[warm scarab]

yes

a lot of people

[steel escarp]

have you tried turning off the 10h of white noise video on youtube?

[unique wind]

10 hours of white noise occasionally interrupted by sharur sipping coke zero

[maiden meadow]

Hey, i've been having an extremely annoying problem, I've bought a new microphone from amazon its the NJSJ budget one. And ever since i started using it i can hear myself, i've done everything, even fully wiping my pc. If anyone knows a fix, please tell me it.

[fervent tangle]

Do I buy this? Is there a cable that I can buy separately that comes with a mic? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09PH1N67T?

I’d like a mic

[tender frost]

I wouldn't recommend a cable with an attached mic with those

It feels bad to do that lmao

[fervent tangle]

Oh

[tender frost]

A cheap-ish XLR setup would be fine

[fervent tangle]

Thing is I plan to take these outside and use them on my phone too

[tender frost]

Do not take open back headphones outside please

They're open back
Everyone around you will hear what you're listening to

[fervent tangle]

I always wear a hoodie over my headphones no sound will leak

[tender frost]

That will ruin the sound quality

[fervent tangle]

Huh?

[tender frost]

Covering the backs of an open back headphone crushes the quality

[fervent tangle]

Oh

[tender frost]

You'd be better off getting a nice pair of IEMs and a cable with a mic for those

[nova wagon]

also, have fun training your neck while going outside with that headphone

[fervent tangle]

Are iems good for gaming?

[tender frost]

Imagine going on a run and wearing audezes

[nova wagon]

i can see with the maxwell

but lamo that with the lcd series

[tender frost]

They can be 🤷
Need one with good imaging in its soundstage

[tender frost]

Don't skip neck day smh my head

I do genuinely wonder if my neck's gotten stronger holding up my lcd2s all day

[fervent tangle]

Sound stage?

[tender frost]

The area that your brain creates where the sound sounds like it's coming from

Sound doesn't have to sound like its coming directly from the speakers themselves

[fervent tangle]

Which iems would have that

[tender frost]

Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk

Or b3 or b3:d whenever that comes out

[fervent tangle]

I can’t find the twos only the threes

[unique wind]

truthear nova

[warm scarab]

they are really good headphones but you can't really wear them outside without destroying their sound quality and potentially the headphones themselves

not to mention those wouldn't work well off of a phone

[steel escarp]

don't get the threes

the three "dusk" is right around the corner (people speculate)
its a better tuned version for the same price

also the moondrop blessing series are quite big and might not fit in your ears

[haughty girder]

as is pretty much every multi driver iem

[fervent tangle]

So I shouldn’t buy any iems right now?

[steel escarp]

the blessing 2 dusk are still good

honestly I am not an IEM guy

[unique wind]

truthear nova is available and is very good

it's on the large side as are the majority of good iems

[steel escarp]

sharur likes it which means it has incredibly small sound stage

[unique wind]

the only things that determine soundstage in iems are tonal balance and upper treble response

[steel escarp]

moondrop variations have no soundstage

EQed moondrop kato to harman has soundstage

[unique wind]

it is an iem

there are no magic tricks here

[steel escarp]

okay cope harder with your project reds

[unique wind]

i use nova

im the one thats been happy for months enjoying my near perfect iems

[fervent tangle]

Is it good for gaming or do I buy the iems that are speculated if they are good https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09PH1N67T

[unique wind]

youre the one that constantly buys new shit and tries to convince yourself that youre hearing things

[steel escarp]

its not ideal for gaming, the directionality of the sound is a bit weird

you don't hear sounds come from in front of you that much

[unique wind]

these edition xs will have a more fun sound presentation but i personally find it easier to know where people are in games when im using iems

[steel escarp]

get the hifiman deva pro wired for 160 dollars and a 50 dollar moondrop dawn dac/amp

but don't use it in public

hifiman headphones shouldn't leave your desk honestly

there is a version that is wireless but it has less bass

and its bluetooth which has too much delay for gaming

[fervent tangle]

Ye

[fervent tangle]

Do I buy this too?

[steel escarp]

honestly for 160 dollars its very good

don't buy hifiman cables

[tender frost]

Hifiman cables are the worst cables I've had the displeasure of using

[steel escarp]

the hifiman he1000v2 stealth I am using came with a 3 meter long cable which I do occasionally use when laying in bed

[tender frost]

Once again
Do not use open backed headphones in public

[fervent tangle]

And is there anything better that costs a bit more?I have more money than I can use rn

[tender frost]

Get a nice pair of headphones for use at home, and a nice set of IEMs when you go out and about

[fervent tangle]

Ik I’m getting iems for outside and a nice pair of headphones for home

[steel escarp]

you can get the hifiman sundara for 350 dollars, its way more detailed but I cannot wholeheartedly recommend them.

[fervent tangle]

Why is that

[tender frost]

Bass light, clamp is a bit much at first, pads squish in damn fast, requires an amp to get the most out of them

[steel escarp]

I heard people say it gets worse with an amp

and they showed measurements to prove their point

[haughty girder]

Sundara... detail?

[steel escarp]

its more detailed than the deva pro

the deva pro is a bit more detailed than a dynamic around the same price but not much

[tender frost]

Mine sounded better with power 🤷

[fervent tangle]

uh my budget from the future iems/headphones/amp/and mic if the headphones don’t come with them is 700 usd

[steel escarp]

do you have any audio stores near you where you can try out stuff

[fervent tangle]

The mic can be a 10 dollar one if need be idc

[fervent tangle]

Would a microcenter suffice?

[steel escarp]

I doubt they have anything from hifiman since its more of an audiophile brand

and not a mainstream consumer brand

[fervent tangle]

I also can’t hear in one ear so tech that takes advantage of both ears won’t do anything

[unique wind]

if only the edition xs came with the sundara headband instead

i know you can change the band but that’s a pita

[steel escarp]

you simply don't lean back far enough in your chair while gaming

[fervent tangle]

^

[tender frost]

I kinda wanna try out a Focal set
Think someone would trade a higher end pair for my LCD-2

[steel escarp]

set as in speakers?

[tender frost]

Heaphones

Forgot to type

[steel escarp]

their top end closed back: "focal stellia" is less detailed than the hd660s2

still fun to try out more headphones

[tender frost]

Kinda just wanna try something less boring lol

[fervent tangle]

So what do I get then with a budget of 300 usd for a amp if needed and headphones

[steel escarp]

get the moondrop dawn or 50 euros, you don't need something more expensive

why do you want to spend so much

and if you are, make sure you can tell the difference first

there is such a thing as a difference that doesn't make a difference

[fervent tangle]

300 also includes the headphones. And this is max ofc I don’t want to spend that much.

[steel escarp]

okay then get the hifiman deva pro wired for 160 and the moondrop dawn for 50

[fervent tangle]

And is there something better than the deva pro that on sale but costs a bit more?

If not I’ll get this

[steel escarp]

an alternative to the hifiman deva pro wired would be the sennheiser hd560s

but I can't say they are better

there is the audeze maxwell

if you want something bluetooth/2.4hHz and a mic

its also a closed back

has like 80h of battery life too (realistically like 50)

the microphone works, its not anything better than a normal laptop mic, if not a little bit worse

[fervent tangle]

Is the audio on par with the deva pro’s on wired?

[steel escarp]

I have not heard it myself so I cannot comment

it might be more detailed than the deva

but its pure speculation so forget that I even said it

[fervent tangle]

Should I buy this from here or on Amazon,and which amp do I buy https://store.hifiman.com/index.php/deva-pro-wired.html

[steel escarp]

are you in europe

or in the usa

or elsewhere

@fervent tangle

if in europe try to get it from a local seller, honestly shipping to and from china is a bit risky rn with the current world events

[fervent tangle]

USA

[steel escarp]

Get it from amazon

[fervent tangle]

This one right it ships from them https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-Deva-Pro-Open-Back-Headphone-Magnets-Wired/dp/B09XTX1HTP/ref=asc_df_B09XTX1HTP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=632142461502&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7974159513923139179&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1018127&hvtargid=pla-1662773781078&psc=1&mcid=45e7aff670ee30598a07d2024dd2f9f3&gclid=CjwKCAiAzc2tBhA6EiwArv-i6ZcrZS3fh9tnhZlwyruOrRD7XOHA6IKaqTl_HwutbRjf-IbqIPexWBoCxWMQAvD_BwE

[steel escarp]

Yes

[fervent tangle]

And what amp do I get

[warm scarab]

its shit

dont

[warm scarab]

it is detailed

still shit tho

[steel escarp]

Make sure you get the moondrop dawn dongle too, it will make it sound noticeably better than what your laptop/phone headphone jack outputs

[steel escarp]

Already told him not to get the sundara

So we good

[warm scarab]

you can get an edition xs open box for around 330$

if you are in eu or us

[fervent tangle]

Also so if my headphones are open ear does that mean everyone can hear anything

[steel escarp]

Yes

[warm scarab]

yes

[steel escarp]

Sound leaks both in and out

You can hear people talk like you are not wearing headphones

[fervent tangle]

Damn

[steel escarp]

But they also hear your music, not as loud as you hear it.

[fervent tangle]

Which ones?

[warm scarab]

edition xs

[fervent tangle]

Link?

[warm scarab]

google?

[fervent tangle]

Don’t even know what the whole name is u just said xs

[steel escarp]

Klaus 160 deva pro and 50 moondrop dawn is better for gaming

[warm scarab]

edition xs

is the name

[steel escarp]

He wants to use them for gaming

Xs has no front stage

[warm scarab]

why would you get planars for gaming

its not like deva is better

dt880 has better imaging

so does r70x

[steel escarp]

It has a cohesive stage

[steel escarp]

Nah bro

It's so heavily overdampened

[warm scarab]

with your shitty eq yea probably

[steel escarp]

Okay stock sound dt880 hearing damage enjoyer

[warm scarab]

also overdampening doesn't matter for imaging

[steel escarp]

Everything sounds really diffused

[warm scarab]

doesn't matter

[unique wind]

this is true of most hifimans without eq

because they have a crater at 2khz

[warm scarab]

eq cant create imaging

[fervent tangle]

Tf is imaging

[warm scarab]

it can help you perceive it better

[unique wind]

it can restore what was always there, until it got hidden by intentionally bad tuning

[warm scarab]

you need group delay for imaging

you can't eq in group delay

[unique wind]

schizo

[warm scarab]

directional sound

[fervent tangle]

I assume that’s done by different sounds coming from each side of the headphone?

[warm scarab]

even amir acknowledges this

listen to your superhero

[steel escarp]

Imaging is how precise your headphones can pinpoint where the sound is coming from.

[warm scarab]

makes you able to tell if a guy is in front of you in a game or not

[fervent tangle]

Ah

[warm scarab]

or in any other direction

[steel escarp]

Amir has a shitty measurement rig

[warm scarab]

he does

but michael likes him so

[fervent tangle]

And fyi my hearing in one ear is shitty I can’t really hear anything from it

Keep that in mind with this directional stuff I think

[warm scarab]

dt880 has good imaging if you want to game exclusively

so does r70x

neither really need amps

least for gaming

[steel escarp]

DT880 will toast your hearing if you listen to music

[fervent tangle]

I plan to game and watch YouTube

[warm scarab]

its fine then

[warm scarab]

grey you are bipolar

tomorrow you will say something else

[steel escarp]

I use EQ

So for me it's fine

[warm scarab]

you will turn it off a day later

listen to it

say oh shit my eq is bad

defend it for another few days

relapse like 20 times

you speak as if this didn't happen before

[steel escarp]

My 1200 euro amplifier is the only thing that makes dt880 enjoyable and gives it good bass

[warm scarab]

lol

lmao even

[steel escarp]

It's a mini hd800s

[fervent tangle]

So…

[warm scarab]

you could have gotten an hd800 for 1200 euros instead

[steel escarp]

Get the deva pro wired with moondrop dawn and be done with 210 euros

[warm scarab]

get dt880 250ohm for like 140$

[steel escarp]

The stock tuning of the dt880 can be very fatiguing

[warm scarab]

bro has ear damage

[steel escarp]

Especially if you have hearing damage

[warm scarab]

"oh wow a guy that can't hear highs, it would be terrible if we recommended him a headphone that emphasizes highs"

[steel escarp]

The more damaged your hearing is the more your brain struggles with treble

Also the deva has less distortion so it should be easier on the ears

[fervent tangle]

It’s not damaged it’s more like the things that help u hear don’t exist

[warm scarab]

do whatever you want mate

I gave you my advice

grey gave his

its up to you

[steel escarp]

Your brain already has to compensate for hearing worse by pouring more processing power at interpreting everything you hear. You want to minimize fatigue too.

Try both and return which one you don't like tbh

But do get the moondrop dawn. It will make both sound better regardless of which one you choose to keep.

[fervent tangle]

😭.u think a micro center would have the dt880’s?

[steel escarp]

Possibly

[fervent tangle]

If they have them I’ll test them there .

[steel escarp]

Order them from Amazon and return which one you don't like

You don't have to feel bad for returning anything

[fervent tangle]

There’s so many which one are u referring

[steel escarp]

Also you can take your time at home listening in a quiet room to make a better decision and don't feel rushed.

[steel escarp]

https://www.amazon.com/MOONDROP-Pro-Protable-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0CFQS2B6L

You can use this for your IEMs too if you get some in the future

[lean grove]

SG pilled Klaus saying planars suck? Say it ain't so

[warm scarab]

im such a sgpilled planarchud

sksks

[fervent tangle]

U said that the dt880 would be fatiguing right?

[steel escarp]

I can't listen to it for more than 5 minutes without applying an equalizer to it to tone down the ear piercing higher tones.

[lean grove]

He also said his new pair of headphones have the best bass he's ever heard and then returned them an hour later

[steel escarp]

They did have good bass

[lean grove]

The 880 does have a treble spike but it's not that bad.

Grey is an unusual specimen

[steel escarp]

Everyone's ears are different

[lean grove]

Somehow yours are more different than everyone else's

[steel escarp]

I have very sensitive ears

[lean grove]

High noise

[steel escarp]

Just order both and send back which one you don't like

[fervent tangle]

This is the other one right? https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-880-Premium-250-Over-Ear-Stereo/dp/B000F2BLTM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?

[steel escarp]

Yes

The 250 ohms version needs the moondrop dawn to get loud enough

[fervent tangle]

The 600 one costs the same

[steel escarp]

Don't bother

It needs a stupid amount of power to run well

Also note that the dt880 does not come with a detachable cable

Detachable cables are amazing. You can replace them if they break. And if your cable gets caught behind something the cable will more likely unplug itself from the headphone instead of yank them off your head onto the floor

[fervent tangle]

The ship by march I won’t be able to use them for the test

[fervent tangle]

Oh no need to test then I need detachable cables

[steel escarp]

Can you find another seller on Amazon that sells the moondrop dawn?

[fervent tangle]

They all do

[steel escarp]

https://shenzhenaudio.com/products/moondrop-dawn-pro-dual-cs43131-portable-usb-dac-amp

And from zhenzen audio?

[lean grove]

Fosi ds1 is the latest hotness

[fervent tangle]

It doesn’t tell me when it just says it’s free

[steel escarp]

It's supposedly 5-14 business days

According to their shipping page

[elder thistle]

I believe this is relatively common for the k361/371

[haughty girder]

it is, but only after a couple years of use

[frigid ermine]

How do I go about fixing a ground loop/static sound issue? I have my GoXLR connected via 3.5mm jack line out into my second computers capture card line in. And I have a lot of buzzing

[grand dove]

does anyone know what this mic stand is called or know a good one like it?

[steel escarp]

Plug everything into the same extension cord. Your entire pc setup

[wheat moss]

that looks like a cheap generic mic stand lol

probably from amazon like the rest of that setup

[grand dove]

do you know a good one I can look at?

[gusty spruce]

managed to get pair of SRH840'S for like a 102 pounds

[elder thistle]

did it break

[gusty spruce]

no ? i mean pounds as in currency

[elder thistle]

right

[gusty spruce]

ye

gbp

[elder thistle]

but the original srh440 and 840 suffer from the most catastrophic hinge defects out there

it is common for them to break at the hinge

even though the 840 was my first headphone, I don't bring it up because of that

my friend's 440 broke on day 2

[frigid ermine]

Ohh, maybe thats it. Thanks I will try

[frosty ocean]

I swear, every time I decide to rip a new SACD, it feels like i have to figure out how to do it all over again

[vivid kelp]

Hiya not sure if anyone here knows how amps are wired and if this is gonna be an issue, ordered some jbl speakers for my car, I have a sony head unit thats rated 4-8 ohms impedance, the jbl speakers are 3 ohm, now to my knowledge this causes the amp to work harder and can throw it into protect mode/overheat it, but am I likely to run into this issue if its a 4 channel amp and im only driving two of the channels?

I keep hearing conflicting info, some people say its okay and its to "account for factory wiring" or "pull more volume from weaker amps" others say its not

Its wired to the head unit built in amp no external one using factory wiring

My theroy is that because its only driving two channels it might be okay, since the amp will only ever be at 50% load

So the impedance being 3 ohm and driving the amp harder will never put it over the combined wattage for all 4 channels, im just not sure if amps work like that or if wattage is a per channel thing

[frosty ocean]

what stanic magic is this...how is each one of these songs about 400MB?

[vivid kelp]

Maybe this

What in the fuck 2,822,400hz

Okay apparently thats SACD sampling rate, yeah just transcode them down to something sensible

Looking here youre only listening at 44.1khz anyways so having 2822.4khz sampling rate is a waste

foobar will be downsampling that anyways

[vestal meadow]

That would be DSD

[vestal meadow]

Foobar won't as it can run DSD

But most dacs would convert the dsd signal to pcm anyway

Only exception would be akm and burrbrown

[steel escarp]

holy shit

how is ifi marketing their 5v power supply

it has "noise cancelling"?!?!

[molten lotus]

This company makes horrendously obviously scam cables (Such as their 800$ HDMI cable that does nothing more than a basic 20$ hdmi would do). However I looks up this particular model and the people in the audiophile community states that somehow this cables gives their music a “warmer” sound or whatever. I am a PC nerd so I have no idea if that’s true or not. Can a cable really improve the sound of your music significantly enough that you can hear it?

[buoyant vale]

You won't be able to get any of the benefits without sinking some serious money into cable lifters anyway

[molten lotus]

Hahaha I got that one, just so we are on the same page. It doesn’t do jack shit right?

Because when I saw it, I said of course it doesn’t do anything, but when I looked it up there was multiple forum threads saying how it “changed” their music to make it sound more “warm and “colorful”

[buoyant vale]

I mean I wouldn't buy those ones in the picture

looks like something I could do myself

[lean grove]

there are some very specific situations where nicer cables can make a real difference compared to bad cables.

but personally i think the biggest difference comes from the perception of the person rather than any real impacts from the way the cable changes the electrical behavior of things

[molten lotus]

I wasn’t planning on purchasing any cables or anything like that. I just randomly when down a rabbit hole of “audiophile grade” cables

As someone who isn’t that into audio, just a curious question in case my first assumption were wrong

[buoyant vale]

but I don't think the fancy cable I bought for my headphones makes them sound any different

[molten lotus]

Are there any examples of that?

[cold spindle]

just looks like generic coax even tho coax cable is really overkill as audio cable

tho yeah you can just diy coax into audio cable if you got it. and used coax is cheap as hell

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/QWbyF1fMGwY
this is the most extreme difference i've seen. its a very unique situation of having a headphone that is really low impedance, low enough that the usually negligable impedance of a cable is now significant.

https://youtu.be/A0TlrpVCRgw

this is another example of how cables can make a difference but for shielding

[molten lotus]

Ah, yea I saw a proper experiment where they did found that those wire world cable did make a difference, but no where near enough that you would hear it.

Difference was found but nothing that you can physically hear

[cold spindle]

only perk coax has is shielded and low data loss as it's a really pure cable but 200 for coax with banana plugs is a lot

[molten lotus]

Thanks guy, was just a random quest I when on. Thanks for the explanation.

[lean grove]

it depends on who "you" are. some people are very good listeners. some people are so good at listening they hear things that aren't even there 🙂

[steel escarp]

Passion For Sound reviewing 1000 euro cables and describing the difference in sound

[buoyant vale]

[unique wind]

chad sharur basically retiring his youtube channel because hes already been at endgame audio for a while

[spark egret]

could anyone tel me some headpones

that i can use on my phone

on trips

preferably noise cancelation and under 30$

i live in croatia

[ornate linden]

What is a good dac for planars

[wheat moss]

of course a proper cable is going to be better than a shit cable, but beyond that, there's nothing

[misty bloom]

yo

whats the est boom arm to get for a blue yeti

and like setup tutorial too

bc i never used a boom arm

[nova wagon]

well you mount your arm to your table, mount your mic on the boom arm, bada bing bada boom

[misty bloom]

so do i not have to screw anything in place?

[nova wagon]

would need to screw in the mic to the boom arm cause it uses a thread system

the boom arm itself has an option to use a desk clamp for mounting to the desk

[misty bloom]

thread system?

salso what boom arms would you recommended

[nova wagon]

https://youtu.be/fOYeFJ68a64?feature=shared&t=970

[nova wagon]

how much are you willing to spend is the question?

[misty bloom]

Idk a good price

Bu rn I have around 300 dollars

I could ask my parents to buy it for me also

[nova wagon]

yea thats way too much to spend on a boom arm

rode psa1+ at 100 should last you a lifetime

[misty bloom]

Ahh

Well price range ideally somewhere around 40

[misty bloom]

How long. Is it

[nova wagon]

search it up

[misty bloom]

https://www.amazon.com/Filter-Compatible-Microphone-Sleeve-SUNMON/dp/B08L3525DY/ref=asc_df_B08L3525DY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=642191438585&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2014096936502177405&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027848&hvtargid=pla-1188428822111&mcid=eb3fa26125c630bb9adf0c36353833a4&th=1
do you know if this is anygood?

[paper wasp]

i need a good recomendation for over ear blue tooth head phones decent price

[paper wasp]

that shpuld be good actualy

@misty bloom ya that shoild be good for starting look up if it includes the mic amazon is a pos so id check it

[nova wagon]

You get what you paid for at that price. It works, but the build quality is questionable at best, the spring uses for tension will be creaky, it might not support heavier mics.

Also might not reject desk vibrations at all.
Which is one of the main benefits you should get with a mic arm

[nova wagon]

It specifically said the mic is not included.

[paper wasp]

@nova wagon o im on a shitty s8 so amazon dont load gpod

my bad then

@misty bloom coffee cup an a snow ball

[misty bloom]

?

[paper wasp]

what i use

[misty bloom]

w9hat are you asking

[misty bloom]

so it will fall if a bump my desk or smth?

[nova wagon]

He uses a blue snowball and for some reason a coffee cup to hold it standing

[paper wasp]

this mic an a coffee cup

no

[misty bloom]

im not spending 40 dollars on a mic

when i already have a mic

that imo is better

[paper wasp]

thats fair lol

[nova wagon]

Either that with heavy mics or your mic will still pick up the desk bump sound as if it's still on the desk

[misty bloom]

so you think i shouldnt buy it?

[elder thistle]

it should at least be a little isolated with that

I see a lot of people doing the same thing with the razer seiren mini

also you'd be able to have it closer to your mouth for higher noise rejection

so I'd say go for it

[misty bloom]

Wdym by this

Also main thing I’m tryna do is find the length

[elder thistle]

isolation meaning reducing the desk sounds

I just went for the big arm personally

whatever length you don't use will instead go vertically

[elder thistle]

for my at2020

also random advice: don't spray mic arms with wd40

it has some kind of precise friction mechanism inside the arm that lets it keep it's position

and it's held there with a spring pushing it with ~120lbs of force

thing exploded and embedded one of the rods into my wall when I tried to fix it

almost crossbow stuff

[misty bloom]

I just want to clip it behind my monitor

Like where should I put it

[elder thistle]

maybe like this

[misty bloom]

Idk

I was thinking like newr my mouse

Also I’m going to buy a new mouse pad

[elder thistle]

wouldn't the other monitor be in the way then?

and there's no gap between the tables so it'd need to go in the back

and if the back is against the wall...

I just don't see how that could work

[misty bloom]

This gap isn’t big enough?

@elder thistle

[elder thistle]

not really, unless you plan to have the mic extended all the time

when retracted, the arm will fold into a position that goes beyond the desk

which might be fine if you have the mic arm angled 90 degrees / completely sideways from the wall when retracted

but then you have to extend the arm and rotate it so it goes in front of your screen

if the height of the extended arm isn't enough to clear the monitor as it's rotated, you'd need to retract the arm partially, and it'll most likely have part of it going beyond the wall

which means you won't be able to get the arm to go over your monitor

[misty bloom]

I plan to golf it to where that keyboard is

You see that old keyboard

[elder thistle]

ye

[misty bloom]

Is that bad?

Is it to short to go from there

[elder thistle]

that's probably too short yeah

hm

now that I think of it, it might be possible to just have the mic go way up instead of retracting/folding the arm backwards

[misty bloom]

That would always be fine

Imma order it rn and keep you ipdsted

[misty bloom]

Cost?

Nvm I’ll just buy that one I should you

nvm it looked very short

[proper flax]

Anyone know what sound card i should consider for my pc for flac audio playback, currently rocking the ALC897, or is it too small of an upgrade to even consider

[warm scarab]

you shouldn't get a sound card

[proper flax]

Oh rlly? Why?

If it helps im a very light audiophile and a music producer, need to analyze diff genres

[warm scarab]

the concept itself isn't outdated but sound card themselves are

all the currently good audio equipment is external

also you really don't need a good soundcard for flac playback

you should be investing in good headphones and an amp/dac based on the headphone

[proper flax]

Ah... So get a dac?

[warm scarab]

a dac and an amp

or an aio

[proper flax]

Ah I see, tysm!

[warm scarab]

np

[compact vault]

dam different earpads make a difference in sound

like a lot of difference

[warm scarab]

yeah

[zenith cove]

Can anyone tell this jack’s/cable’s name?

It came with my headset but it’s malfunctioning after two years of use. I need to get a replacement.

[buoyant vale]

3.5mm

[zenith cove]

Okay, thank you. Here’s the other end of the cable. What is this called?

[quick solstice]

Could be a balanced jack

[haughty moon]

It's a Sennheiser headset?

[zenith cove]

Yes, it is.

[haughty moon]

Genuine Sennheiser Replacement UNP CC Console Cable

Look for that on amazon

https://www.amazon.ca/NewFantasia-Replacement-Compatible-Gaming-Headsets/dp/B0797WP8P6/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?

I think I got that exact one for my pc37x

[zenith cove]

Thank you.

[narrow shoal]

Does anybody here by chance know how to repair vacuum tube radios, i've got a little project im trying to get running

[lean grove]

You might have better luck asking in a server called sonic visions. They have a few people in there which mod and restore stuff like this.

[narrow shoal]

thanks

[copper ermine]

Anyone know of 2 budget friendly ish rear speakers I can use for my bedroom

Probably cant even get speakers for it as bed and couch are against the wall

[unique wind]

rear surround in a bedroom setup is tough

probably better to just run LCR

[copper ermine]

I mean this still sounds good

[amber trail]

I just got these babies and for $20 they’re phenomenal!

[warm scarab]

thats so cursed

[vivid kelp]

I know absolutely nothing able old vacuum tube radios but I love old hardware like that lol

[livid ruin]

they lack sub bass

heavily

footsteps are muted

[lean grove]

they're small drivers. thats expected

[livid ruin]

compared to monitor speakers yes, they are phenomenal

[amber trail]

Luckily I won’t be playing any games on them. This is more for casual video watching or music

[lean grove]

for what they are and what they cost you'll have a hard time finding anything better

[amber trail]

I mean for $20 they’re amazing than even my phone

[livid ruin]

i bought some hd 681’s and after testing them, i just packed my pebble v2’s into the box and never touched them since

and i didn’t like headphones

well, not like i didn’t like but prefered speakers

i sweat alot

[lean grove]

easier to do bass when you dont have to pressuraze in an entire room.

i had the hd681s for a while but they broke pretty quickly

the little nubble connector thing isnt that strong

be careful with it

[livid ruin]

yeah, the cable is very fragile

[amber trail]

My case I have earbuds and sometimes it irritates my ears with something sitting in them. So I wanted a good cheap pair of speakers and they’re good for that

[livid ruin]

i dropped my hd681 off the table and the headphones were hanging on the cable (my luck)
i doubt that cable would survive another fall

i rarely break cables

[lean grove]

well its just that this area right here is a 90 degree joint

its gonna cause undue stress right at where they're connected

and even if you're super careful with it, every time you move it its gonna wear down a little bit

[livid ruin]

i may buy koss porta pro wireless

any alternatives? with similiar sound profile.
prefer flat

can have cable

[livid ruin]

ikr, i route the cable a way that it puts the least amount of stress

at worst they break, they were 20 bucks

[lean grove]

we've had this conversation before i think

[livid ruin]

correct.

but, i didn’t find any

[lean grove]

#audio-tech message

because there aren't any

[livid ruin]

i mean not literally

i just want the neutralest sound curve possible without costing two hundreds

ofcourse there is are none because even unit to unit varies

even left and right cups may vary quite decently

and it’s also not easy

[unique wind]

hifiman he400se with parametric eq if your budget is $100

it probably wont get loud without an amp though

[livid ruin]

ideally without EQ tuning required, but i’ll check

[unique wind]

if you dont want to use eq then headphone options are extremely limited in general

98% of headphones are poopy

[livid ruin]

well, it’s hard to find headphones at budget that don’t have some sort of treble dips/ are bright

or have messed up mids or bass

[unique wind]

hifiman he400se has inverted polarity and a 2khz dip but both of those can be fixed with equalizerAPO

and then you can boost the bass to harman if you want to

[lean grove]

you should really just lower your expectations, kvetinky. you are not going to find the best or more neutralist. ive explained to you why you won't find that last time we talked

you should settle for "good for the money"

which the porta pros are

[unique wind]

oh is their budget like $50?

[livid ruin]

yup

[unique wind]

you gotta save up to a hundred man

[lean grove]

so far its "without costing two hundreds"

[livid ruin]

but, can do more now prolly

[unique wind]

everything at the $50 and below price point is manufactured waste

[lean grove]

koss

[unique wind]

some of it is tolerable but there's nothing actually good

[lean grove]

iems

[unique wind]

(im talking about over ear headphones)

you can get solid iems for that price ya

[livid ruin]

hd681’s which i’ve purchased new for 20 bucks aren’t ewaste

they’re just bright

alot

harsh

maybe i should just do EQ

[unique wind]

you should definitely give it a try because it's free

[livid ruin]

which one do you recommend

[unique wind]

equalizerAPO if you're on windows

[livid ruin]

fair

thx

[fiery ore]

get the peace add-on

after you get equalizerAPO

[unique wind]

whats the benefit of that

ive always just used base equalizerapo

[livid ruin]

though, i wanted to also replace them because my ears get pretty sweaty in them

altough they’re semi open back, my ears don’t breathe in them much

[fiery ore]

has a lot of pre done custom eq's for every headset done by people like crinicle etc

to meet harman specs

stuff like that

[livid ruin]

if i use the headphones for more than 2 hours sometimes even starts to hurt, prolly just my ears being sensitive

[fiery ore]

could be the pressure etc

could be anything, or even how loud yhou are listening to them

[livid ruin]

yes, they have higher clamping force

the earcups aren’t good

i keep my volume in the lower range

[lean grove]

well the superlux's arent exactly super lux

they're plastic on plastic

[livid ruin]

akg clones basicly

but with material cuts

[lean grove]

well the akg its cloned off of isn't anything to write home about

[elder thistle]

eeq

[narrow saffron]

is this good for da headphones?

[lean grove]

yeah

[narrow saffron]

alright

[sinful wasp]

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[warm scarab]

more visual for zoomer accessibility

[boreal ether]

What’s a good cheap mixer that I can buy so I can combine two audio sources together?

[vestal meadow]

Yes

[vestal meadow]

You could get something really nice for 200 ish

[sinful wasp]

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[vestal meadow]

Ah i thought you were buying your first /only one

What ya got

[sinful wasp]

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[mint sparrow]

umc202hd vs scarlet solo 3rd gen? do the focusrite generations mean much if anything at all?
got 250ohm headphones and i wanna be able to work with an XLR mic along with it, focusrite are significantly more expensive when it comes to 2nd hand things,

i've heard that the older beringer audio interfaces aren't supported anymore like the um22 for example, i just kinda want a cheap box that works with an xlr mic and can comfortably drive 250 ohm headphones

[warm scarab]

umc easily

[mint sparrow]

Okay but why, i dont understand, explain like i'm a baby orsomething

is it cause it has more inputs, is it cause its cheaper, i dont understand why its easily the umc over the solo

(i also dont know if the focusrite audio interfaces generations do anything in specifics)

cause i've seen some cheap ass 1st gens

[warm scarab]

scarletts are just streamerslop

mid preamps

terrible drivers

bad headphone outputs

[mint sparrow]

i only know about them cause i had them in school

okay so they have a mid preamp, how well do the umc202hd do

[mint sparrow]

how is that possible though, it's just a 1/4 inch jack am i wrong??

[warm scarab]

the socket is the same

the headphone amps are bad

[mint sparrow]

in comparison to the umc?

[warm scarab]

I'd be lying if I said I know how good the umc headphone output is but, I know that the scarlett one is bad

[mint sparrow]

i've seen that the umc drivers are worse than focusrite ones cause you have to manually download them or some shit whereas focusrite does it for you? (it was a skim read)

[warm scarab]

this is false

scarlett drivers very often break

probably one of the most fragile audio drivers on a product sold this massively

[mint sparrow]

really? god damn

[warm scarab]

why do you exactly need this btw

like why multiple xlr inputs

umc22 is really cheap and works pretty well

id honestly buy that unless you want to do pro stuff

[mint sparrow]

also side question, if i was talking on discord would i be able to plug in an instrument and would people on the call be able to hear it?

i'm a music student and occasionally i'd need it for my partner's recordings

mic + instrument or multiple mics really

[vestal meadow]

That's such an interesting looking player

[mint sparrow]

plus if i could play bass directly through a discord call that would be kinda fun (not essential but sounds fun)

i currently only use my usb speakers to control volume and the midi mixer program when speciifc programs or when i've got headphones on, it would also be nice to somehow (VERY big stretch) connect my usb speakers to the audio interface just for the convenience but i dunno if thats even possible

[mint sparrow]

would it not work the same as the 202hd? i'd rather not wanna lose quality,

i'm getting it from CeX so 2nd hand and like £45 for a 202hd over retail price (i'll also trade in shit so its even cheaper)

• i'd really prefer using an XLR over my nearly 7 year old blue yeti

[warm scarab]

its like

to the end user

such a marginal difference

unless you are planning on powering super insensitive mics

or you are a good professional

its really nothing

[mint sparrow]

naw, we've got an sm58 atm BUT one day i'd like to get an sm7b

[warm scarab]

sm7b is a meme mic man

total streamerslop too lmao

[mint sparrow]

it sounds good though

[warm scarab]

it doesn't really sound any better than 20$ mics with eq

[mint sparrow]

i like the sound of the sm58 yeah

okay then one day when i get the u87 lmfao

but i'm not that rich

[warm scarab]

is that the tube one or the currently available one

[mint sparrow]

which one

u87 or the sm58

[warm scarab]

u87

is that the vintage tube mic

or the currently available general studio mic

u47 or whatever was the other one

[mint sparrow]

the avaliable one

[warm scarab]

i forgot which is which

u87 is actually pretty nice

but like

[mint sparrow]

i think you're thinking of the u47

[warm scarab]

yes

[mint sparrow]

£3000 yeah

[warm scarab]

that mic is like actually bad

[mint sparrow]

i dont have that atm lmfao

[warm scarab]

I wasn't saying spend more than sm7b because its bad

I am literally saying 20$ mics with eq are equivalent to sm7b

[mint sparrow]

fair fair but like

[warm scarab]

minus you don't need to spend money on a cloudlifter

[mint sparrow]

all we've got atm is an sm58 (without a fucking clip even)

[warm scarab]

that isn't a bad mic man

[mint sparrow]

got a rode ps1 but not even a clip for the bloody mic

no i know, its a great mic

[warm scarab]

like

I wouldn't call sm7b an upgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctgZB4S-jz0

here

[mint sparrow]

it'll just dangle like a NSFW thing

[warm scarab]

tell me if you can tell the two apart

[mint sparrow]

thanks mod bot warship twat

[warm scarab]

in the video

after the guy eqs them

[mint sparrow]

can't rn lmfao i'm in a lesson lol

[warm scarab]

well watch it some other time ig

[mint sparrow]

i just wanted to know why the UMC202hd was a lot better than focusrite shit cause i'm just not knowledgeable about that stuff

[warm scarab]

in any case they sound super similar

yeah

202hd better

[mint sparrow]

remind me in like 3 hours i'l let you know

[warm scarab]

you remind me lol

[mint sparrow]

but i dont know exactly why, i love the fact scarlett is usb c but that's kinda it

[mint sparrow]

bet

also can you even EQ a mic through an audio interface and have it work over something, like say discord

[warm scarab]

not through an interface but through 3rd party software

and it works practically seamless

[mint sparrow]

and i can have that passthrough?

holy shittt

[warm scarab]

if by passthrough you mean the pre outs

I am not certain

[mint sparrow]

maybe i might just get the xm8500, leave the sm58 for my partner so if i get the 202hd i can have 2 microphones n shit

[warm scarab]

that would work imo

[mint sparrow]

no by passthrough i mean unofficially after the audio interface

[warm scarab]

ah yea

all your system apps get the eqd audio

[mint sparrow]

like after it's PASSED THROUGH

oh no thats awful

[mint sparrow]

i fucking hate that

[warm scarab]

wait what why

[mint sparrow]

i like the stuff the way it is xd i dont want shit to have natural reverb

[warm scarab]

you want to eq your mic for every app differently?

[mint sparrow]

oH WAIT EQ EQ EQ

NOT EFFECTS

[warm scarab]

yeah

[mint sparrow]

sorry smooth ass brain me

[warm scarab]

you can add effects too i mean

as long as they are .vst stuff

reafir plugins also work

[mint sparrow]

do yo know if you can plug in an instrument and connect it over discord so it sounds right in the peoples headphones in the calls or if thats not possible

[warm scarab]

it may be

[mint sparrow]

i'll take it you dont got an instrument

[warm scarab]

nah

I can connect my phone and try though

lets see

[mint sparrow]

how can you connect your phone?? o-o

[warm scarab]

its just an audio socket

[mint sparrow]

it would just mainly be very funny in my eyes to start doing a walking bassline while we're tryna be quiet in say lethal company

[warm scarab]

you plug the phone headphone jack into the instrument in

[mint sparrow]

ah, i dont got a headphone jack, fucking iphone 11 shite (nor do i have an adapter)

[warm scarab]

the adapter is like 9$

and its pretty good

[mint sparrow]

i just never really need it for my phone tho

i've got airpods that i occasionally toss in when i'm out and about by myself but other than that i don't need headphones for my phone or a need for a headphone jack for my phone

did you manage to see if instrument stuff works though?

[warm scarab]

yea i dont think the instrument out goes into the mic channel

or I couldn't get it to work

probably the latter

I don't have an instrument so I don't really fuck with this

yea idk

[mint sparrow]

very fair

[warm scarab]

but in any case

what I am certain is

[mint sparrow]

i just thought it would be very funny

[warm scarab]

you can use the xlr inputs of the 202hd

and plug in your guitar into one of those

and mic into other

and I think they should mix

but 90% chance you can use instrument in honestly

like what is the point of the input if your computer can't use it

[mint sparrow]

it would also be nice to have 2 headphone out jacks as my partner also has 1/4 inch headphones and when we're working on music together it would be nice to hear it in our ears compared to okayish £30 gaming speakers

[mint sparrow]

because i thought the instrument in would be a different thing not able to be picked up by say, discord

again it was a very big stretch mainly for humor

[warm scarab]

no I meant that as in

I am being stupid and don't know how to use the thing I own

[mint sparrow]

💀

[warm scarab]

it would be dumb if you could use the instrument in for listening to it on the headphone jack but not record on the pc

[mint sparrow]

yeah

[warm scarab]

I don't know how to solve your double headphone jack problem though

not like without spending a lot of money

which isn't very ideal I imagine

[mint sparrow]

no no

but a headphone splitter would kinda work?

but not really?

[warm scarab]

nah

it would mess with audio a lot

[mint sparrow]

cause my fiancés headphones are like 32 ohm and mine are 250, which means i need it turned up a lot and their dont

[warm scarab]

and amp probably wouldn't be strong enough to power both headphones

[mint sparrow]

plus it would half the volume

yeah

also i dont even know if beringer audio interfaces even have a 2nd headphone output lmfao

[warm scarab]

id imagine not

[mint sparrow]

also the video, just skimmed it without audio, the dude doesn't even show how he did it or what he used xd

[lean grove]

It probably can if it's high impedance. The thing that cooks amps is high current and if they're high impedance headphones then they're pretty much drawing no current.

[mint sparrow]

is that even possible from a usb interface?

mixing desk sure cause its coming from the mains

[lean grove]

That's one of the reasons why the 600 ohm Beyers are used in pro settings. You can daisy chain a bunch of them in parallel and the amp won't care.

[lean grove]

USB amps typically top out at about 250 mW into 32 ohms.
But let's say 100 mW to be conservative. According to ohms law that's a top output of 56 mA.

At loud listening volumes, 32 ohm Beyers will draw about 30 mA of current. The 250 ohm Beyers will draw 10 mA of current.

So it's possible to power both headphones from the power you get from a USB port

[mint sparrow]

okay so i respect how in depth you went about this

[lean grove]

But the problem is that the volume you get for the 32 ohm headphones is gonna be different than the volume you get at the 250 ohm headphones.

[mint sparrow]

but in all honestly, in one ear, into the empty cavity of my skull and out the other

[mint sparrow]

yeah that i knew

cause it takes more to drive 250 than 32

[lean grove]

More voltage yes

[mint sparrow]

yeah

[lean grove]

There are some amps and splitters out there which have individually controllable headphone outputs

[mint sparrow]

okay different questions now lol, where can i get like a box of just knobs and faders

[lean grove]

A mixer?

[mint sparrow]

i'm using an alesis v61 for the midi controller app on my computer to alter tabs volumes

yeah but llike NOT a mixer

like this but not that many buttons and not £50

[lean grove]

Idk. I only know hifi. So. No idea. I see tons of them on Amazon and Ali express all the time but they're probably not "good"

Probably usable though

[mint sparrow]

like i've got this big ass keyboard

JSUT so i can alter the volume of things open with windows mixer

and i'd like some more knbos

and more faders

better pic would've come but i'm not home atm

i just want like an entire row of JUST faders i can plug in but i wouldn't know where to get one, and why are they so expensive

i remember seeing a home made DIY fader box with only 3 of them for like £100

[steel escarp]

I hear 0 treble

its nice having a cold

[mint sparrow]

enlighten me on this if you mind

[lean grove]

https://www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0386

Something like this

[mint sparrow]

oh thats kinda cool, i didn't know they did that also, i thought you were talking about the knobs / faders though

that is still really cool

[lean grove]

This thing has 4 headphone amps in one, or one headphone amp and some resistors in front of each headphone output.

And it's like. $35

[mint sparrow]

i assume i just plug it into the audio interface?

[lean grove]

So it's either extremely cheap or it's poorly designed and extremely cheap.

[mint sparrow]

why is this one of the pictures

why is the amp just floating near dudes playing ps2

[lean grove]

Because dudes playing PS2 are too expensive to rent so they just threw it on top of a stock photo

But if I had to guess it would connect via 1/4inch trs

Same way headphones connect but reverse.

[mint sparrow]

ahh

[lean grove]

Can just get an aux cord with an adapter and that will work

[mint sparrow]

but it looks like it uses ac input

i mean being able to have 2 1/4 jacks on a 202hd would be really nice for my partner and i to both listen stereo and at better quality than my speakers while we're working on things

[lean grove]

AC?

You mean the barrel plug?

[mint sparrow]

yeah it looks like it requires power

i'm not sure tbh

[lean grove]

Yeah. It does.

[mint sparrow]

it says 12v on the very left

ah

yeah thats what i dont like ( i dont have many sockets )

[lean grove]

You can use a car battery

[mint sparrow]

i dont have a car

womp womp

[lean grove]

Rip

[mint sparrow]

would i be able to plug headphones into one of the left / right speaker ports lol

or would that only do left / right audio only

[lean grove]

Yes

On both

[mint sparrow]

what

so if i plugged it in left speaker, it'd only play in left ear

[lean grove]

Yes

[mint sparrow]

mkay

well thanks to you and the dude with the joker picture i think i know what i've gotta get, and a new microphone along with it lol

cause i dunno how an sm58 gets rusty but it do

[lean grove]

Was it suspiciously cheap?

[mint sparrow]

It was free, from their uncle

[lean grove]

Oh that's normal. My uncle gives me rusty military equipment from the 80s.

If it's from an uncle and not rusty that's when you start asking questions

[dusty lance]

Looking to get one of these... first "high" quality headset i buy so im in the blind but im going for DT990 i know for sure. but im just not sure what model to get..
https://www.beyerdynamic.de/dt-990-black-special-edition-250-ohm.html
https://www.beyerdynamic.de/dt-990-pro-black.html

trying to find the difference just seams to be the head band pressure? and the cable
Going to run it of a Fosi audio P2..
also current headset is a SXFI Theater... worst purchase ive done🥲

[haughty girder]

I don't recommend the dt990

I'd recommend the dt880 over them

[mint sparrow]

why's that

[haughty girder]

dt990s are quite sibilant

[unique wind]

dt990 have distorted bass and treble that will cause pain

[haughty girder]

Bass is weird

[mint sparrow]

only on the dt990s? i've got the 990 pros and the bass sounds fine

[haughty girder]

it's not well defined and the bass bleeds into the mids and not in a satisfying way

[haughty girder]

770 and 990 both have this issue

if you're not sensitive to sibilance (not everyone is) they're okay, but 880 is far better overall

[dusty lance]

"sibilant"? well ive only ever heard AKG 612 pros and they seem abit too i would call it unpersonal? and looking at reviews dt990 seemed like what i wanted.. so might look into the 880 but they only have the Black edition (in full black) which is what i want colour whise

also compared them on Rtings? and bass got a better score there.. but as i said im in the blind so idk if thats good or bad

[warm scarab]

rtings scores are meaningless

they measure stuff with objective data

then use almost arbitrary methods to evaluate that data

which makes the final scores a literal meme

[dusty lance]

Alrighty it was nice for choosing what monitor i was gonna go with tho! :d but iguess they have bad and good sections?

[warm scarab]

yea

the raw data is good if you want to compare audio stuff

but the scores are just bad

[dusty lance]

i see sadly i cant find anything really on my current headphones of solid data to compare with 🥲

[haughty girder]

612 is your bright-neutral headphone

that's kinda the entire thing about them

they don't sound like anything

[willow locust]

when I first moved in to my current place, I didn't realize that I'd be able to inherit some old second hand audio stuff for use with my tv, so I ended up with an amp that's too tall for any of the spaces on my tv stand. For reference, it's the Adam from The Brick. it was cheap, and it sort of worked. Unfortunately, the amp can't fit in that small shelving area, and I'm weary of wall mounting. I'd also like to mention my neighbours are renters and they don't respect the fact that they share a wall with me, so they (especially their kids) love treating the house like an indoor playground. Does anyone have any solutions so I can place the amp on the tv stand somewhere?

I've thought of
a.) table top stand (tv is 65" tall, amp is at least 15cm tall)
b.) floor length tv stand but, the base below it needs to be under 2 cm thick in order to slip in underneath the existing tv stand (which doesn't seem like it's possible)
c.) (really ugly) but get risers to sit underneath the existing manufacturer supplied TV legs
d.) look for a new amp, which is not a bad idea...just expensive

[vale dirge]

I ordered these. Any experiences? My Audeze Maxwell broke after hitting its membrane too hard. Since it’s user error - I was denied warranty. I tried a ton of $200 headphones in the past week for gaming. Razer Kraken, Blackshark, Nova Pro, Stealth Pro and A50s. Nothing came even slightly close to audiophile quality. Now I’m trying my luck with these - anyone has tried these out? I know I can go all out and just get high impedance wired headphones. But I prefer wireless headsets over those just for ease

[tender frost]

Could just get a wireless receiver of some kind and clip that to the headphone

[vale dirge]

Those work too. But then comes budget too where high ohm open backs cost a fortune. At that price point, I’d rather just play games with my AV receiver and 7.1.4 home theater

[lean grove]

There aren't any wireless receivers that I know of that can do low latency. Idk which ones support aptx ll

Without aptx ll you're gonna be having something like 70-150 mS of delay

[tender frost]

(as a side note, ohms don't mean much in terms of sound quality. Planars are low ohm things and yet some sound amazing)

[tender frost]

Sadge
There's a market there for some chifi brand to capitalise

[lean grove]

There is.