audio-tech

[warm scarab]

you also need to take sensitivity into account

less impedance more current your amp needs

so having more impedance can actually make your headphones easier to drive

[wild willow]

oh really

[warm scarab]

yes

also easier to drive =/= louder

[wild willow]

man this is complicated

i think im gonna look into some edition xs then if they also offer good bass

seems like the next step

[warm scarab]

zen v2 with balanced output should be enough to power edition xs i think

[wild willow]

yeah i hope so

[warm scarab]

what is this lmao

[wild willow]

i went on the ifi website and paired the edition xs with the zen v2

[warm scarab]

it should be fine

as long as you use balanced

go get a balanced to dual 3.5 cable

[lean grove]

Why not a magni

[livid ruin]

110db is good what the fuck?

[warm scarab]

he already has the v2

[warm scarab]

peaks hit 110db

its not like you stably listen at 110db

[livid ruin]

tho, 110db at 10khz is nightmare

[wild willow]

wait im a dumbass

i dont have the v2

[warm scarab]

lmao

[livid ruin]

tbh still too much

[warm scarab]

it isn't

you hit 110dB while listening at normal volumes

[livid ruin]

i don’t feel like that’s good for the ears

[warm scarab]

it isn't bad

you don't lose hearing when you hear something at 110dB

you lose hearing when you hear something at 110dB for 10 minutes

[wild willow]

my car plays 150db i already have tinnitus

[wild willow]

am i fucked now with the v1

[warm scarab]

v1 is identical dw

as long as it has a balanced output

[wild willow]

yes it does

[warm scarab]

v1 is same as v2

but has mqa support

which is a dying meme

[wild willow]

haha okay great

[livid ruin]

i have permanent tinnitus tbh

no matter what i hear ringing 24/7

[warm scarab]

150db just pops your eardrums lol

[wild willow]

tbh ive never done anything software related to my dac, should i?

i kinda just plugged it in and used it

[warm scarab]

no

eq is the most you need

[wild willow]

naaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[warm scarab]

or hqplayer but hqplayer is nerd shit so dont bother

[livid ruin]

110db can damage your ears after exposure of less than one minute

[warm scarab]

yeah

in music it generalls peaks to that for less than a second

[wild willow]

equalizer?

[warm scarab]

yes

[wild willow]

whats a good one to use

[warm scarab]

eq apo

look up a tutorial on how to use it, its not straightforward

if you like, cant understand it download peace gui instead

its eq apo but dumbed down with a simpler ui

[wild willow]

okay yeah that might be a good idea

[warm scarab]

also less capable as you might have figured it out

[warm scarab]

idk, its the same as eq apo really, both are simple, one just requires you to click like 4 more buttons on average per band filter

anyhow tackle whichever you want

[wild willow]

yeah i might need to look into that

prob just gonna make it sound worse tbh lol

[warm scarab]

adding bass is very simple and easy

the rest may prove difficult

[wild willow]

okay i will try, thanks for all the help

gonna keep my eye out for some edition xs aswell 🙂

[warm scarab]

id say to keep an eye out exclusively for xs if you want to buy hifiman

other options are not in the same league

[wild willow]

yeah im not bound to hifiman tho just the first "high end" i bought and im happy so far

other than the muffs just self imploding

[warm scarab]

@haughty girder hifiman pads arent glujed

[wild willow]

are you sure

[elder thistle]

my he400se pads are not glued

[warm scarab]

thats odd nexgen thinks they are

[left cypress]

Why’s that?

[unborn gale]

I have both Arya and Ananda earpads. They use clips

[hot veldt]

Hello everyone i need some advice im building a gaming set up low/mid tier. but im trying to find some solid speakers to go with it My budget is around €200/€250 max Its a small to mid size bedroom I have been looking at the edifier R1855DB And some wall mounts would also be realy nice If anyone has any suggestions pls do tell😁

[urban igloo]

So i need a cheap camera that records one off videos for my mom for her cooking channel we only record videos like once every six months i currently use a laptop with a like standalone monitor camera and every time I use it either the camera gives me problems or the laptop does any suggestions would be great

[unborn gale]

I personally use a somewhat old Logitech C270 720p webcam

Obviously not gonna blow anyone away, but both mic and camera are gonna be good enough and significantly better than your laptop's

[steel escarp]

I was gonna get a susvara but apparently I spent 6k on audio last year

And honestly he1000 stealth still has not left me unsatisfied

[lean grove]

edifier makes good stuff. i would only consider wall mounts as last option, if you can get some desk mounts or some stands that would sound better. when a speaker is too close to a wall, it starts to sound weirder.

[haughty girder]

how cheap is cheap

what resolution are you aiming for

or better question: What phone do you have

you're probably better off getting a tripod for your phone rather than a camera

[narrow saffron]

how to make mic sound better?

[haughty girder]

mic arm if you can, eq

[narrow saffron]

how to eq?

[lean grove]

google it?

[narrow saffron]

idk how

[crisp granite]

Hi!
I just ordered a HD560s and it uses 3.5mm connector. I'm on pc and am worried my 3.5mm socket on pc might not work(never used them before, only ever used usb) does anyone have a recommendation for any adapters(female 3.5mm to usb male)?

[nova wagon]

you could get an usb c apple dongle

[lean grove]

Anything with a cx31993 chip will work. Apple USB c to headphone adapter.

Or if you're feeling fancy, fosi ds1

[crisp granite]

is that the only way? I'm asking because I'm a bit reluctant to buy the usb c because that port is all the way back on the pc(io shield it's called?) but I'd like the cable to go in the front if that makes sense? xD

[unique wind]

there are USB-C dongles that include a USB-C to USB-A (regular usb) adapter like what Nils suggested

ones that use the "CX31993" chipset are best

[nova wagon]

well there are many ways, its just that an apple dongle or the one nills mentioned is one of the most cost effective way to do what you describe, and also have decent result

for the price of course

[crisp granite]

ooohh ok nice I'll check it out right away

[lean grove]

you can get usb c to usb a adapters real easily

[nova wagon]

the cx31993 might have hissing issue tho

cause its so mass produced that not every brand do their qc tightly

but thats the game you are playing at this price

the apple dongle is not the confidence inspiring looking when it comes to its construction

[crisp granite]

btw for the usb-c to usb-a adapter do I need to care about the 2.0 or 3.0 and some of them even mention "speed" like 10 Gbit/s?

[nova wagon]

i use one right now, its kinda flimsy

[crisp granite]

like some of these has certain speeds written on them, am I losing performance for the headphone by choosing something with no mention of speed or something like that?
Edit: or can I just ignore the speed part?

[nova wagon]

nope
for audio outputting purposes you will prob never need that speed

[crisp granite]

ahh ok ty

and the 2.0 and 3.0?

[nova wagon]

the same

[crisp granite]

ok

[nova wagon]

if you want a dongle that you can also transfer data from a usb c 3.0 device then sure, get one

but for audio outputting, again, doenst need that much speed

[crisp granite]

but strictly for the headphone, it doesn't help right?

[nova wagon]

yea

[crisp granite]

perfect

got kinda scared there for a sec

[craggy pollen]

Guys is dolby atmos worth upgrading for?

Ive had this question before but never a clear answer, i run a 7.2 setup right now with a 15ish old receiver and i have no problems with it apart from the fact it has no hdmi

[lean grove]

if you use media that has atmos support, maybe

[crisp granite]

I know you said the 3.5 to usb c to usb c to usb a was the most cost effective but would you say this one is fine?
since this one is 13£ and the usb c way is combined about 17£ for me
although one thing that worries me is the part in red about the "smart chip"

you think that'll mess with the audio?

[nova wagon]

thats the issue right there
god knows which dac chip they got under the housing

[crisp granite]

hahahhaa

I get it

[nova wagon]

you can search up the cx31993

or with the apple dongle case, 46L06-CWZR from cirrus logic

all respectable dac chips

[crisp granite]

the cx31993 takes too long to arrive and can't find the 46L06-CWZR you think this one will do?

[haughty girder]

what country is this?

[nova wagon]

wait a second, you are in europe?

[haughty girder]

kr is Korean won right

[nova wagon]

looks like krona to me

[haughty girder]

wait

I'm stooopid

[nova wagon]

cause the won has its symbol

like the yen

[haughty girder]

yea

[crisp granite]

yeah sweden

[haughty girder]

Yea.

[crisp granite]

sweden hahaha

[nova wagon]

i mean the dongle will still works fine, just not as powerful as the us version
but does it matter for a 560s?

[crisp granite]

does it?

[lean grove]

might idk

560s is pretty sensitive

[craggy pollen]

Apple music, netflix, and plex media that 40ish percent supports atmos

[elder thistle]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0885WGX89

[lean grove]

Looks sketch

[elder thistle]

i have that and a few others, it's indistinguishable

pretty high volume too, about 1.5vrms OL I believe

[fresh saddle]

https://www.linsoul.com/products/tangzu-waner-s-g are these good for the price

[supple robin]

yes

you can also go for 7hz zero 2, truthear hola (discontinued but was on amazon, not sure if it still is)

my main audio source is the tangzu wan'er, i prefered the truthear hola but the wan'er is nicer in my ear personally3

[fresh saddle]

yeah I wanted the holas but

not sure if I can get them

they're on shezen audio or one of those websites not sure if I can stillg et em

nvm I don't think they ahve em anymore

[supple robin]

if you want them u can check amazon

anyways u should be happy with truthear wan'er sg i am

[fresh saddle]

ill try get em

I showed my mum and she waas saying smth about buying from websites she dont know and smth about two dollar stores

and night markets

[elder thistle]

pebbul

so basically...

koss ksc75 + mackie cr3x

and then worse about proportional to price

cheesed but real treble

instantly more capable than most computer speakers I've heard

some imaging too

[gloomy cave]

Anyone have recommendations for semi open ear TWS buds? Stuff like the standard AirPods (though preferably not priced that high).

I'm looking for something i can wear more comfortably for longer periods. I would likely mostly use it for podscasts, videos Anne audiobooks etc. Good music quality would be a nice bonus but I would still keep around some in ear buds for long music sessions and the gym. (hoping to upgrade those too at point this year, hence not wanting to spend a ton on these). Also need both buds to work independently, can't live without that feature.

I've heard good things about the Nothing Ear Sticks, Sony Linkbuds and JBL Live Flex. Anyone have experience with those or have other recommendations?

[dark storm]

as someone whos dailied gen 1 airpods for a year and airpod pros for 3 years, my opinion prob wont mean much to others here but

active noice cancelation / transparency should be your #1 priority feature for dailies.

just the kinda headspace it enables you to have in even the most chaotic of places is bliss

[elder thistle]

not sure what you mean by semi-open, unless you mean things like westone's AM lineup or some of the weird clip earbuds audeze makes for example

comfort-wise, earbuds involve sticking something into your unique ear canals and the stem on your earshape

I don't think there's any reasonable basis for any of us to judge earbud comfort in a way that applies to most people

[warm scarab]

all the buds you mentioned are fairly wack

[dark storm]

its a necessary price to pay, eventually might even get inflammed skin on the inside of your ear if you really wear them long periods

[warm scarab]

I can't speak for any in ear's ability to stay in your ear as that is related to your ear shape

but the cheapest option you have which isn't really bad at all and is better than all you mentioned is the moondrop space travel

[elder thistle]

some kinds might have an earhook

[warm scarab]

rare behavior in built in wireless tws

[elder thistle]

beats does iirc

[warm scarab]

yeah but then you'd have to buy beats lmao

[dark storm]

beats pro fit are actually very secure and are a, hybrid of buds and hooks

[warm scarab]

probably a better call to get something like the tangzu wan'er and one of the kz tws adapters

or the trn ones

[elder thistle]

custom molded

[warm scarab]

yeah just drop 400$

[elder thistle]

do it

[dark storm]

I doubt they could be very stylish too

[warm scarab]

well not the part that goes into your ears

but the outside can be fairly stylish

not saying these are good sounding but

[elder thistle]

I'm just saying it's an optimal solution, not a feasible one

[warm scarab]

fairly stylish id say

this looks pretty damn good

probably a lot insta filters on it tho lol

[dark storm]

Wish I could daily IEMs…..

[warm scarab]

why

[dark storm]

Been too spoiled by wireless

Too long

[warm scarab]

just get a tws adapter

its that easy

[dark storm]

At this point I’d look into a set that already uses this on neck thing. I’d have to be one really picky audiophile to take this TWS x IEM approach for dailies

[warm scarab]

why

its the same as any other tws

identical to the beats one but in two pieces

[dark storm]

If you find yourself mobile with a bag more often than not, they’re probably a great solution

[warm scarab]

wdym

why a bag

[dark storm]

What exactly is a TWS adapter

Might have a misunderstanding

[warm scarab]

google tws adapter and look at images

[lean grove]

Beans

[dark storm]

Well I have. And I’m seeing everything from your more conventional wireless buds in a charging case to aux battery packs for iems

[warm scarab]

I beat you to it

maybe if you were 30 years younger you could have been faster nils

[lean grove]

They're gonna be maybe a bit bigger than the power beats case

[dark storm]

Unless the scale is throwing me off, seems like a rougher time pocketing these. Hence bag

[lean grove]

Like maybe one or two perogies

[dark storm]

Ah good scale

[warm scarab]

i mean you can fit them into your pocket

they are larger

[lean grove]

You can fit one or two perogies in your pocket too

[warm scarab]

i bet i could fit more

[dark storm]

You can fit a Nintendo switch in your pocket too, but uhh

[lean grove]

Yes but at what cost

[dark storm]

Yeah that was just satirical comparison

[warm scarab]

broken screen

idk what to tell you

[lean grove]

I was asking about what cost to the perogies

[warm scarab]

I never bring a bag with me anywhere

and these are always in my pocket

[lean grove]

There's no way they'll survive more than three

[dark storm]

Is that a TWS adapter in your pocket or are you just excited to see me

[lean grove]

You're gonna break the wrapper

[warm scarab]

ma'am thats my 256kbps 24 bit aac codec functioning fiio utws3 true wireless earbud adapter case

[lean grove]

Have you considered something like the qudelix 5k and going wire-less

[warm scarab]

qudelix is cope wireless

[shadow stag]

suggestions for headphones suitable for hearing aids?

[warm scarab]

i couldn't imagine looking at the mirror and telling myself qudelix is wireless

[lean grove]

Sennheiser hd800s

[warm scarab]

lmfao

[dark storm]

^

[warm scarab]

wait you aren't joking?

[shadow stag]

hmm, i use over the ear hearing aids

[dark storm]

It fits criteria

[warm scarab]

i was positive that was a joke for having scooped out highs

[lean grove]

I got these for work and the hd800 comfortably fits over these while I'm wearing them

[dark storm]

There’s room dw, and if you have huge ears, the cushions will make room and still be comfy

[shadow stag]

the "hearing spot" is on the top of the ear instead of the center

[dark storm]

Wearing HD800 at work

Save some women for the rest of us

[lean grove]

I brought my akg k1000s to a bar once

[warm scarab]

💀

[shadow stag]

hd800 you say then? those dont look compatible with my hearing aids hmmmmmm

or is that a different hearing aid?

[warm scarab]

all it takes is 1 tipsy guy with beer in his hand nils

[warm scarab]

wdym compatible?

[lean grove]

The hd800 have literally the biggest cups I've seen. If they aren't compatible idk what will be.

[shadow stag]

ah ok

i also cant listen stereo properly

[lean grove]

Hmmm. What if neck speakers?

[warm scarab]

i thought hifiman egg pads were larger

[shadow stag]

i have to route stereo through a mono speaker

[lean grove]

Maybe? I haven't measured. I thinn the hd800 is deeper than the eggfi

Maybe edition xs then

[warm scarab]

ah, deeper yeah maybe

[lean grove]

$350 on headphones.com

[warm scarab]

i was thinking more wide

[lean grove]

Don't think depth matters as much as height does for hearing aids

So yeah take a look at the hifiman edition xs @shadow stag

[shadow stag]

i'll take a look at both

i'd prefer if the headphone itself has the ability to set mono instead of depending on the device

[warm scarab]

i dont think you will find any headphone that does that for you

you can use eq apo for that though

[dark storm]

This feels like something you’d ask a doctor

[warm scarab]

software

[dark storm]

Not discord randos

[warm scarab]

i dont think doctors know how to set headphones mono

[shadow stag]

lol

[dark storm]

I’m sure hearing doctors are audiophiles

[warm scarab]

real

[shadow stag]

the hd800 is hella expensive

im seeing results for hd800 s

[warm scarab]

2nd hand can go for like 600-800

[lean grove]

You can usually set whatever you're listening to in mono via settings

[shadow stag]

argentina here

[warm scarab]

hmm

[dark storm]

Oh Jesus

[warm scarab]

yea xs maybe

idk what else

[lean grove]

Nah man Klaus is certified

[dark storm]

I’m certified forklift operator

Yeah what’s up

[warm scarab]

i was titled a hearing doctor by the dude in my dream

I am a qualified expert

[lean grove]

Maybe Beyers? Or at700x whatever's?

[dark storm]

I asked chat gpt about it

[warm scarab]

at700x?

[dark storm]

I know what I’m talking about

[lean grove]

The audio technicas are pretty chunky

[warm scarab]

don't those use r70x pads

[lean grove]

Something similar. Are they not huge?

[warm scarab]

r70x pads are like the tiniest shit

large eared people hate them

[lean grove]

Yeah idk then

[warm scarab]

i think eggs or he400se maybe

[lean grove]

You're the second guy that's come in asking for advice for this, juesto

[shadow stag]

seinnheiser hd800: 3,4m, hifiman edition xs: 1,146m argentine pesos

[warm scarab]

look at he400se as well

xs has taller pads but

this may work out as an economic solution

in case you can return them after trying

[lean grove]

@𝕭𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖍.#0151

[shadow stag]

too niche for this discord?

[lean grove]

Too niche in general

[warm scarab]

its a rare subject

[shadow stag]

oop

fair enough

[lean grove]

#audio-tech message

[shadow stag]

report em for being unpingable maybe? :D

anyways

[lean grove]

Could try and send a friend request

[shadow stag]

hifiman edition xs is the cheaper option of big headphones?

[lean grove]

That's the cheapest "big" headphone I can think of. Akg k701 might be another option but the xs is definitely bigger

[shadow stag]

@wintry oasis hey, what did you end up getting? looking for compatible headphones with my over the ear HA

should i send a picture of the ear with the ha for reference?

[lean grove]

He left the server

You'd have to send a friend request

[shadow stag]

Rip, wtf

probably doesnt want to be bothered perhaps

its ok

[lean grove]

@gloomy cave what are you typing you've been at it for a while now

[gloomy cave]

I've decided it's probably not possible to get perfect all around TWS buds. I currently use the Galaxy buds pro 1. I still want these style for when I want isolation, to listen to music at good qualityb or work out.

But I'm looking into having a semi open pair that I can wear longer without irritation and still hear around me.

Now that I've got into the TWS form factor, it's hard to go back. I particularly b love being able to easily use the one bud on it's own. It's either TWS for convenience or full over ear headphones for the best quality.

[lean grove]

Might have luck looking on Reddit.

[shadow stag]

i dont have a good experience with reddit

[gloomy cave]

I find reddit's quality varies wildly depending on the exact subreddit and moderators.

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510681715484786710/970417880774606874/reddit-moment.gif

Reddit is prone to being filled with people who sound like they know what they're talking about without actually being experts

But if you went specifically to a community for deaf people or people with disabilities, that's not really something you can pretend to have a lot of knowledge about

[lean grove]

What's worked for me is open-air earbuds. Comfort wise I sometimes forget that I'm wearing them, even with glasses.

They don't isolate at all though

[gloomy cave]

When it comes to discussing a lot of the big media franchises. I find AC lot of the different 'Factions' of a fanbase seal themselves into different subreddits. On the one hand you risk an echo chamber, on the other it keeps the more toxic factions from spoiling everyone's day.

[gloomy cave]

I guess I'm just not keen on the large hooks those ones tend to use to keep them on.

[dark storm]

You don’t need to be an expert to give a recommendation

By that logic, nobody would have any of their shopping queries answered in a valid way

But on the opposite end, this guy is really gonna have a hard time if he’s asking general communities, About a very specific and restricting circumstance

[lean grove]

Expert was too strong of a word. What I should have meant is that there are people who sound like they know what they're talking about when they have no idea what they're talking about. They either parrot things or they have a little bit of information which might be incorrect.

Or might be incorrect for a specific situation

[dark storm]

That’s all hobby communities in general.

[lean grove]

Indeed

And it's annoying

[dark storm]

Debate all day, until a consensus is made, where it’s very hard to debate

There’s still value there I think

If you’re able to parse what it is in the first place

[lean grove]

That's a big if. Most new people can't tell the difference between one person being 90% correct and one person being 10% correct. What they wind up with is something that's 50% correct, which is a worse outcome than it the guy that was 10% correct had just not given his opinion.

Like I think it's a very easily defendable position to think that people who don't know about a subject but go out of their way to preach incorrect information should not be giving out advice to new people.

[gloomy cave]

So I thought, screw it, and decided to order some Nothing Ear Sticks given their price.

Their website claims they can't ship to my address and won't say why.

If you mess your customers around like this, what do you get?

[lean grove]

🤨

i think nothing will make it without your patronage

[gloomy cave]

Not if they don't ship anything.

[gilded urchin]

anybody know a pretty good xlr audio interface that is somewhat user friendly (budget is like 300-400)

[lean grove]

Motu m2 and elgato wave would be what I'd get depending if I needed more inputs or good software. You probably would be able to get something nicer for that much tho.

[dark storm]

Speaking facts for sure

But you’re contending with the egos of people passionate about their topic. Its not something that will ever change

But can we at least agree that the parrots with egos are the funniest ones

[narrow saffron]

does the apple dongle work better for newer phones? i hear a buzz when i plug it in my 11 but when i put it on the 12 pro max there was no buzzing

[gilded urchin]

do yk what would be "nicer" thats sorta what i mean. i dont need anything w multiple inputs or anything. i js want the best quality i can get

[warm scarab]

shouldn't, odd situation

[craggy pollen]

Does dolby atmos upscale 5.1 to 7.2.2? or whatever setup you would have

[lean grove]

More channels is what most musicians need when they want something nicer. To Motu is already pretty nice. You might have better luck asking in podcastage discord.

[elder thistle]

the microphone preamp will mostly come down to preference, though there's still some figures for less noise and such

[gilded urchin]

what u recommend then like if ima do streaming n recording

[elder thistle]

the model of mic may also have an impact. if you mean dac/amp-wise for the headphone output, it depends on the headphones too

I can't decide what coloration you like

the motu is pretty dry or cold sounding but that's fine for me

focusrites are often warm and are kinda legendary in that regard

the sound demos I've heard of audient's id4 were probably my favorite, it was kinda warm-bright in a way that was almost shimmery

wher is video

this might help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkBUv7KPrOE

[lean grove]

Pre-amp coloration is gonna come secondary to whatever mic he uses and personally I'd think streaming, functionality and easy of use should be #1

Even then idk if anyone in the audience is gonna notice amp coloration

[lost wigeon]

100% they won't notice especially in a $400 budget. most interfaces around that price range prioritize transparency with the option for a subtle 'simulated' coloration

[lost wigeon]

UA volt ii and scarlett solo/2i2 are great in my experience

[gilded urchin]

kk thx

[haughty girder]

Motu M2 is ur safest bet

Scarlett gen 3 is meh, haven't tried gen 4

UAD Volt line has the nicest preamps to my ears (for these consumer interfaces), but won't matter to most people

[gilded urchin]

ight thx

[haughty girder]

If you want to spend more, Audient ID series, UAD Volt x76, and Focusrite Clarett interfaces are good options

but for your use case, the only one that you could benefit from is the Volt x76 for its built in compressor

everything else is straight overkill

[elder thistle]

yes

the kind of interface you're looking for is 1x2 or 2x2, being number of inputs vs number of outputs

you only need 1 input and 2 outputs (stereo audio) but there's not a lot of mid priced interfaces with that little I/O

I had a really bad experience with the focusrite scarlett 2i2 2nd gen drivers

UA and motu and audient have a lot of software experience and make stable, highly efficient windows drivers

a better driver allows you to reach lower latencies or use more of your cpu in audio processing before hitting overruns

like with my focusrite (when it worked) I'd be able to use 70% of the buffer before it started crackling and giving overruns

with my motu m2 I can use 95%

I basically upgraded my effective cpu performance

[gilded urchin]

oh damn alr thx

so i wont have any problems or flaws with sound quality with the m2 right?

[narrow saffron]

i think im just too cool

[elder thistle]

yeah, basically

[haughty girder]

... 2 outputs does not mean stereo

it's 2 outputs because it's one line and one headphone out

the line out can either be balanced 1/4" TS or RCA

rarely will you see XLR balanced outputs in these interfaces

[elder thistle]

riddle me this

how does the motu m4 have 4 outputs

and why does out 1-2 exist as "out 1-2" or out 3-4

usually the headphone output is just tagging along with the same first pair of outputs in an interface

interfaces label their outputs this way because it's useful to send mono signals from the outputs in a studio setting. for example a microphone signal can be sent into a daw for software processing, then back out output 1 to go to an LA2A. then that can go back into the daw to be recorded, and then it could go back out again to a hardware mixer via output 2

but the first two outputs in smaller interfaces often have some volume control capabilities and a headphone output stage attached because people often want to use a cheap interface as a monitor controller

adding those controls doesn't hinder those outputs' core functionality

but they are in pairs as far as windows audio goes

stereo pairs

[edgy stratus]

this may not be the channel i should ask but why my gaming headphones have some dots on the top with dust on em

[elder thistle]

[haughty girder]

Midi, one set of RCA, one set of Balanced TS, headphone

[restive hill]

Please rate my set up. I have klipsch r-41M's as my fronts, the r-52c for my center, and the sony sa-WMSP4 as my sub. My receiver is the yamaha rx-v385

[wheat moss]

more money than sense/10

[lean grove]

do you really want a rating

[restive hill]

What about my speaker placement, is it good or should I move them

[restive hill]

Hit me

[lean grove]

this might be the second worst speaker setup i have ever seen.

[restive hill]

How can I improve

I am planning on replacing the 20 year old sub soon

[elder thistle]

how does the motu m2 have 2 outputs

[restive hill]

Please explain how it's bad

[lean grove]

im trying to put it into words

[restive hill]

Bet

[wheat moss]

-1 for unbalanced purchasing
-1 for speaker placement
-1 monitor too small to be that far away
-1 clean up your stuff
-1 razer sticker
-1 non-ltt screwdriver
4/10

[lean grove]

you're putting speakers pointed at you. so thats good.
but you're not really understanding how left center right channel is supposed to work. they're supposed to make a sound field in front of you.
something like this. the left and right add left and right channels and the center channel is supposed to anchor the sound in front of you.

what you have is a mono speaker in front of you, and then two speakers to the side acting more like surrounds but playing stereo presumably?

but they're also super close

[elder thistle]

I am seeing a lot of ways the speakers can hit surfaces and reflect the sound, and I'm seeing a lot of ways the speakers will vibrate what they're sitting on

[lean grove]

are you doing some room calibration with your reciever?

[restive hill]

Yes

[lean grove]

okay at least you got that going for you

[restive hill]

Also I don't have any space to put my fronts in front

[lean grove]

yes because your room is a mess.

[restive hill]

Unless I put my monitor on top of my speaker

[lean grove]

multiple TV's, ltt screwdriver, boxes of random cables and stuff

like i see a bunch of stuff with little direction

[wheat moss]

I see plenty of space to put them, your shit is just laid out horribly

[restive hill]

I have 2 monitors

[wheat moss]

as per my message, clearly not an ltt driver lol

[lean grove]

then why do you have 4 tv remotes on your desk

a good speaker setup should have intention and thought put to placement and the speaker setup and what i see is that they're just kinda... put somplace where they fit.

so like. my final rating is possibly a 1 out of 10.

[restive hill]

One is for the receiver, the fire stick, the second monitor, the actual TV and its fire stick

[lean grove]

maybe 2/10 since the carpet looks like its being kept clean

[restive hill]

it was just vacuumed

if i were to move my speakes where would they go?

[lean grove]

.

in front of you

[restive hill]

would it be fine if i put them sideways and under a monitor

[lean grove]

try it out

a lot of people do that

[restive hill]

alright

[lean grove]

idk how good its gonna sound at your speakers at your desk

90% of the sound is probably coming out of your center channel anyways

so if it works it works.

might be worth seeing how things change if you hook up the speakers on your side as surrounds rather than left/rights

[restive hill]

Alright thanks

I'm trying put the fronts in front now

@lean grove what do you think

[wheat moss]

should've spent less on the speakers and bought a monitor arm and a couple decent matching monitors

[restive hill]

I didn't spend anything my dad bought it as a gift

[wheat moss]

💀

[restive hill]

thats why im trying to make the best out of what i have

[restive hill]

do you think its a better setup than before

[wheat moss]

obviously yes

[lean grove]

Does it sound better

[restive hill]

kinda

[lean grove]

Then that's kinda an improvement

[restive hill]

it feels narrower

[lean grove]

I don't doubt it

Place your speakers however they sound best. The room calibration should get rid of some of the problems.

[restive hill]

actually it made it worse

it got all the distances wrong and the leves were wack

im now thinking of adding surrounds but all i have are 6 ohm awias i got from a thrift store

[restive hill]

I moved them back because they sound better and do a better job creating surround sound

[silent haven]

who actually uses slide out keyboards

[lean grove]

joe mama

[lost wigeon]

they're nice if you do paper work at your desk

[elder thistle]

other than tonality, how is the sound of the pc37x and pc38x different?

I've seen conflicting ideas so far. some say it's literally the same but more full, others that it's a completely different tier of headphone improved in every way

[warm scarab]

i don't think they'd be much different aside from tonality

[haughty girder]

I'd argue 37x is a semi open

it's mostly open but the grills are not as open as pc38x

how that translates into sound quality is uh... basically no difference

[elder thistle]

I heard it was a different driver too

but that doesn't always mean it sounds that different

currently I'm leaning towards the pc37x

[unique wind]

pc38x has deeper bass extension and smoother treble than the pc37x

i think the microphone is better too but i dont know for sure

pc38x actually has better treble than 560s, only second to the 6xx/650

but the 560s has deeper bass extension

these claims are all based on their frequency response and distortion measurements im not just talking out of my ass

[warm scarab]

🧐

[steel escarp]

I moved to apple music

using the Cider app to make it usable on windows

tidal dont got half my music library

[haughty girder]

it is

PC38x uses a similar driver to the GSP600 from ages past, 37x is closer to a 598 iirc

but I don't remember

[elder thistle]

there's two lines of reasoning I've been debating between:

the pc38x could be a useful purchase because it's essentially the same price as an mc450+vmoda boompro. there's basically no chance the pc38x will compare in imaging precision or especially instrument separation, so I would want it to compete on other fronts like frequency response, hopefully better front vs back discernment in games, and possibly comfort

the pc37x could be a useful purchase because it'd still get the same handicap as an mc450 regarding eq, but is a lot cheaper and is now more in competition with the hyperx cloud II, cloud alpha S, razer blackshark v2x and potentially some future headsets

[molten lotus]

What's your budget?

[elder thistle]

doesn't matter that much, I'd like to buy only one of them though

useful as in not another headphone I cast aside and don't talk about much

which... isn't really the case for almost any of the headphones I got

I have the hd560s and my own conclusions on them, which aren't as great as most people's for one reason or another

someone told me they can hear front vs back well on the titanfall 2 demo clip with the hd560s

which contests the weakly defined consensus but still uncontested stance I had with them on that matter

[molten lotus]

Well I personally wouldn't recommend either. HD600 gonna be much better long term, and a $30 usb desk mic will turn anything headphone into gamer.

If you want the best bang for the buck dt880 are going to be your gold tier "gamer" headphones.

I went around the block dt880 he400se to elex

Dt880 are better "gamer" headphones but I preferred the tonality of the he400se over the dt880

I prefer the elex over both, as such I gifted someone the 880 who needed mastering headphones and I am gifting the He400 to a budding audiophile.

The person who got the dt880 had sony xb500 for mastering probably why their bass was non existing in their finished work.

[elder thistle]

I don't really agree that a $30 mic is an equal substitute for a boom mic. noise rejection disadvantage for starters

to be more clear, my purpose is reviewing headphones, not keeping them

I already have the hd600 and he400se too, as well as dt770 80 ohm and dt990 250 ohm

and 31 more

I intend to do the dt880 600 ohm at some point, but my expectations are still kind of low

[elder thistle]

wait ok

out of curiosity, what headphone under $200 do any of you think has the highest instrument separation

probably something I should've been asking a long time ago

[haughty girder]

a 30 dollar mic can be an equal substitute for a boom mic. Noise rejection depends on the mic technique of the user

[pure oxide]

I got the h6 pros from epos, 300 aud covered by ndis. They sound pretty good, and their built well, nice magnetic boom arm that you can replace with a cover if you dont want it

But then again, im half deaf...

[boreal pond]

Donggels

[wintry mirage]

can i use an old computer psu to power my subwoofer 12v amplifier

[haughty girder]

12vdc for the amp? sure

[shadow stag]

sorry to ask again

but a condenser mic is worthier than a dynamic one?

is it worth doing phantom power and all that jazz?

[lean grove]

It depends. There's bad condensers and bad dynamics.

[shadow stag]

at the store i went where its mainly instruments they only had a very limited selection of mic and interfaces

more for instruments and such

[unique wind]

condenser >

[shadow stag]

all condensers require phantom power right?

[unique wind]

yah

[shadow stag]

should i aim for a setup of guitar and mic?

sorry for the stupid question

but im interested in getting started with being a musician in some way

[haughty girder]

On cheaper condenser mics, they're actually an electret capsule so the power is used as a bias voltage

ie. it's part of the design

[shadow stag]

in a more physical way than just a keyboard and a daw

oh interesting, is that worse than phantom power?

[haughty girder]

no

it's the same

very lower power 48v (though some take 24)

[shadow stag]

oh interesting, but is the quality good?

[haughty girder]

that depends on the mic itself

[shadow stag]

should an audio interface help me with possible interference in my equipment?

[haughty girder]

condensers generally don't require as much gain because the phantom power also drives what is effectively a preamp

[shadow stag]

ah i see

i have a speaker that is 1 ohm and passive

[haughty girder]

1?

[shadow stag]

what do i need to do to amp it up?

[haughty girder]

1 is likely a subwoofer

even then most subs are 2-4

[shadow stag]

its a desktop speaker

the output is very quiet because its passive/not powered

i dont have it handy right now however

when i get home i'll share the model

in a few days

anyways sorry for switching to something unrelated

[shadow stag]

is that a good thing? they also capture more, right?

[haughty girder]

it's both a good and bad thing

it's good because it means it's very forgiving for mic technique (placement and usage)

it's bad also because it's very forgiving, so people often don't use it right and it picks up a bunch of background noise

[steel holly]

Hey all I am looking to get some new headphones. Ideally I want to use them for gaming or with my phone for music and calls. Looking for something affordable. And want wireless.

[lean grove]

the first thing that i can think of that satisfies those requirements is the audeze maxwell which is $300

[steel holly]

Yea that is way outside my budget. Thanks for the reply though.

[lean grove]

you'd have an easier time finding something good thats wired for gaming

something like the pc37x or 38x

but thats gonna be weird to use with your phone

[steel holly]

I have seen some wireless and bluetooth headphones but I haven't bought good headphones since my x41 but those are seriously out of date lol

[lean grove]

the problem is that bluetooth has too much latency for gaming on PC

you might be able to get away with APTx low latency. not everything supports it

so for actually usable wireless on PC you need to use a wifi wireless signal with a dongle built into the headset

[steel holly]

Ok good to know

[raw walrus]

@unique wind @hasty brook you guys are OneOdio product users?

https://www.oneodio.com/products/pro-50-black-professional-studio-over-ear-headphones

I want to get these

[unique wind]

funnily enough i do own those

theyre really fucking bad

do not buy them

[raw walrus]

Oh

How come

[lean grove]

they look mega goofy

[raw walrus]

They are priced 3,500 MKD in my country which is great pricing

Ok here's the thing

[unique wind]

they sound very bad

[raw walrus]

Friend from Romania reccomended me these some 3 years ago.

[unique wind]

at least the sample that i have sounds like there's 0 midrange at all

[raw walrus]

Considering I'm using JBL earbuds

[unique wind]

the jbl earbuds are most likely better

[raw walrus]

And i have a 5 dollar webcam mic xd

[raw walrus]

Nah

These are cheap too

[unique wind]

cheap earbuds can be good

it doesnt cost very much to make earbuds

if youre not spending at least $100USD then it's better to stick with earbuds

[raw walrus]

The thing what i like about these OneOdio headphones is that the wire is replaceable. Previously i owned some Genesis cheap gaming headphones, and they broke after barely using them for 2 years.

I initially wanted to get those green razer headphones, but everyone told me that i shouldn't judge the book by it's cover and that they had shit sound.

[raw walrus]

I really just want to upgrade to something like these DJ headphones, for home use. I don't want to use the earbuds for my PC as well. I just want to stick to using my earbuds at my job.

[unique wind]

i cannot say anymore

they sound really bad but if you're set on buying them then feel free

[lean grove]

if you want them, then get them.

[raw walrus]

I'm for sure not going to get some gaming branded headphones

Because realistically how i see it is that you're really just paying for the brand

[unique wind]

you are yeah

[raw walrus]

Hyper X, Razer, etc... It's all the same story

[unique wind]

there are only a handful of gaming headsets that aren't genuine electronic waste

[warm scarab]

could just get cloud 2

[raw walrus]

And those are over 200 USD lol

[warm scarab]

what is the situation even

[unique wind]

sennheiser pc38x can be had for $120-160 and it's pretty good

[warm scarab]

pc37x

game one

[unique wind]

it doesnt have loud bass but it has some of the best treble of any headphone period

[warm scarab]

pick one

[raw walrus]

I saw these at the store

And here's the cloud ones

[warm scarab]

cloud 2 is a decent option

k361 is a good one

game one is a decent option

so is pc37x

[unique wind]

cloud 2s are way better than the oneodio headphones

[warm scarab]

pick whichever fits your use case

[raw walrus]

Wait, why am i even looking at electronics stores. We literally have some audiophile stores here in Skopje. I can just send you a link from their website and find me some decent DJ like headphones. I think they have sennheiser and AKG (which i heard are decent brands).

My budget is max 100 USD.

I'll send the link soon and have a look.

[warm scarab]

what do you exactly want

headphones below 100 usd?

[raw walrus]

I don't care about RGB, looks. Ofc they have to be of a decent quality, and most importantly sound OK.

[raw walrus]

< 100 USD (can be a little over budget).

[warm scarab]

okay buy one of the headphones I mentioned

idk why we are still discussing the subject

[lean grove]

headphones below 100 usd after import fees and whatnot

[warm scarab]

cloud 2 still fits the bill

k361 could potentially

[unique wind]

cloud 2 prolly gonna be the best option

[warm scarab]

90$ + 15$ import

idk cargo

somewhere around 120$

[raw walrus]

Oof

One of the biggest audiophile stores in my city has their website under maintenance

The thing is that if i find whatever headphones you guys are suggesting in those stores i might as well just go and buy them in person.

I won't have to deal with ordering them from online.

I don't want to bother with products from the stores that sell tech stuff

Because they just have those gaming / branded headphones which don't have the best audio and you'd be really paying for the brand.

[elder thistle]

I'll have to disagree with the others here, depending on what you want out of the sound

[raw walrus]

I'm not an audio expert lol

I certainly don't want crazy ammounts of bass

I do want great audio

Oh and one more thing

I don't want others to hear me when I'm listening to music on increased volume, or talking to someone.

That's an issue i had with previous headphones.

They were not that loud, but you could hear someone talking or the music.

I think that's audio dampening or noise cancelation idk what's it's called.

It matters to me that when i put my headphones on, no one else around me gets to hear the sound coming out of them. The sound should go directly in my ears.

[elder thistle]

there's a good reason for a lot of the common tunings for gaming headsets: it allows you to better hear footsteps and foley such as clip reloads or leaves moving. that means the headsets also sound boomy

the other thing is that headsets often make it very obvious if a sound is either in front of you or behind you. so in a utility sense, this is an edge headsets in general have

[raw walrus]

I hardly play any games nowadays

[elder thistle]

oh ok

[raw walrus]

Also that 5.1 and 7.1 surround thing is fake anyways. Linus did a video on that long time ago.

[elder thistle]

it's not about surround, moreso occlusion and imaging

[unique wind]

jackson gonna waffle about some nonsense and confuse trajce

[raw walrus]

Have no clue what's any of that lol

I'm not an audiophile

Let me now look for audio stores and their websites, and then I'll send em if i find stuff.

[elder thistle]

I'm explaining that linus's information isn't applicable

[unique wind]

your best option in your price range is probably the hyperx cloud 2 trajce

[elder thistle]

but if you don't play games much, you don't need to consider headset functionality aside from the mic

[unique wind]

because you want a closed back for <$100

if the akg k361 or k371 are available and affordable then those are better

[elder thistle]

not sure if I'd get a k361 over cloud II for music personally

I really don't like the low instrument separation

somewhat divisive headphone, met several people at this point who don't like it for that reason

[raw walrus]

I think stores here should have the AKG ones

Lemme first find the websites

[elder thistle]

it'd be very useful if they let you try them against other headphones before buying

that's not a thing where I live but might be for you

the k361 doesn't have an attached mic though

that's the pc37x. which leaks sound

in this situation, there's another headphone called the mackie mc-250 that can be paired with a v-moda boompro mic for a total of $90 on amazon

it only becomes audible in the mic when sounds are really loud on the headphones. I have a test recording of this but it's on my other pc

[fading maple]

best usb microphone for under $200?

im currently looking at a hyperx quadcast

[lean grove]

elgato wave

[elder thistle]

(there's a lot more I should and will explain on these if they seem like a valid option)

have the cloud II as well so can make comparisons in different areas

[raw walrus]

I found a website

Most popular headphones on this website

https://vision.com.mk/product/sennheiser-hd-25-light/

@unique wind @elder thistle @warm scarab have a look

https://vision.com.mk/product-category/broadcast-pro-audio/page/5/?orderby=price

this website

[warm scarab]

we already gave you our answers man

[elder thistle]

no probably not that one

[raw walrus]

https://www.artist.com.mk/mex/kategorija_sa_artiklima.php?glavna_kat=24&kat=68

DJ Headphones

[warm scarab]

we discuss headphones every day, you wont find a underdog unknown god tier headphone no one's ever heard of in a google search

[raw walrus]

Yeah but i gotta see if these are available in the stores in my city

see

[elder thistle]

let's just say I've found some headphones few people have tried

[raw walrus]

What differentiates studio headphones vs DJ headphones?

Hm

These are on a big sale

From 8400 down to 5300 MKD

[elder thistle]

what kind of music are you listening to usually?

[raw walrus]

But idk if this is their current price, considering that i managed to open their old website (currently their website is under maintenance)

[raw walrus]

Any kind... rock, electronics, EX - YU music, balkan music... sometimes popular hits across the globe.

Certainly not Jazz

or heavy metal

[elder thistle]

hmm...

[raw walrus]

are these the ones?

[elder thistle]

well I don't like the earpad comfort on that style of headphone

they are shallow

[raw walrus]

Looks like they only have AKG K2xx series headphones

[elder thistle]

but your ears may be different

[raw walrus]

Not AKG K3xx

What is the difference between K2xx and K3xx?

K371 is better than K361?

185 USD 💀

[elder thistle]

if you want to hear the details of each instrument well when a lot of sounds are playing at once, that's a strength of at least the k240 studio

if you want bass and realistic tone from the headphones so that violins and such sound less artificial when not using free software, that's something the k361/371 are pretty good at

[raw walrus]

https://marketkonekt.com/makedonija/elektronika/slushalki/akg-k915/9Ic.htm

AKG K-915

[raw walrus]

I want headphones which are overall decent in most of these stuff

Like i don't have exact specific requirements / needs

As i said I'm not an audiophile

[elder thistle]

so you don't need a microphone?

[raw walrus]

I would buy that separately

[elder thistle]

oh

oh shoot also any akg k240 variant is going to leak sound out the back

[raw walrus]

So K240 i should avoid

Understandable

K92?

[elder thistle]

I don't have a whole lot of nice things to say about the k92

I can wear it forever though

[raw walrus]

And K72? What stuff it lacks compared to K92?

Because if the K72 is equally as good as the K92, at cheaper price

I could get the K72 instead

Are those first of all at 3.5mm jack with removable wire?

[elder thistle]

well for starters, the whole k52/72/92 lineup has very large peaks and dips in their frequency response

meaning,

[raw walrus]

Cuz i don't want to use an amplifier

My monitor is the amplifier anyways

https://www.pixplus.com.mk/tv-audio-multimedia/headphones/over-ear.html

https://marketkonekt.com/makedonija/elektronika/slushalki/akg-k618/3Ic.htm

Then there's the AKG-K618

[elder thistle]

well I might be able to simulate the k92 tonality but I'd need to find the measurement

[raw walrus]

So:

AKG K72, AKG K92, AKG K618 so far on the list.

[elder thistle]

sounds will go missing though

[raw walrus]

What's the difference between the KX2 series and K XXX series?

[elder thistle]

are there any options from sennheiser?

[raw walrus]

Yes

[elder thistle]

I haven't tried any of their closed backs

[elder thistle]

but at the very least they will have some that aren't as much of a mess as some of the akg's

[raw walrus]

How are the Sennheiser HD 4.30i?

[elder thistle]

someone else might have an opinion

there's also potentially the audio technica ath-m20x, m30x, m40x

I've only tried the m50x, but the m40x generally has a good reputation and is mostly neutral

[raw walrus]

LIST

https://www.pixplus.com.mk/tv-audio-multimedia/headphones/over-ear/akg-k72-closed-back-studio-headphones.html

https://www.pixplus.com.mk/tv-audio-multimedia/headphones/over-ear/akg-k92-closed-back-studio-headphones.html

https://marketkonekt.com/makedonija/elektronika/slushalki/sennheiser-hd-4-30i/m5h.htm

This is what i could find so far.

Unfortunately the artist.mk site is outdated, everything there is just not accurate, up to date plus they have been "upgrading" their site for over 2 years.

At the same time artist.mk is literally the biggest audiophile store in my country.

And that'd probably mean that i would have to go to their store to have a look myself and see what they have.

For now, you can tell me if these here that i have listed are any good or not.

In the meantime, feel free to suggest me anything from AKG that i can look for when i go visit the store physically.

Somebody owns the 72's and they gave an overall rating of 8/10

The 72's fall in my desired price range / budget

[elder reef]

currently have akg k371 and wanted to upgrade to something a bit nicer as these are probably the most uncomfortable headphones I've owned but i have no idea what to look for in headphones
need to be closed back and within about 200gbp if possibly

[elder thistle]

wait what are those earpads

[raw walrus]

?

Idk

[elder thistle]

they're a lot thicker than the stock ones

do you know what your friend had in the past to compare them to?

[raw walrus]

Idk honestly, the guy doesn't have specified what pads he used.

https://forum.it.mk/oglasnik/slushalki-akg-k72-i-mikrofon-tracer-premium-pro-usb.2411/

Have fun translating this

Wait

He is selling them for 1,200 MKD

I can get these for dirty cheap lol

22 USD

He is also selling a mic with them

@elder thistle they are apparently "Velur" Pads.

Anyways i found a new website from another audiophile store

This one is a modern looking website

Bruh

Do people really pay this much for gramophones (vinyl readers)???

[warm scarab]

that is a turntable

I don't know how much that is but probably an absurd amount considering is mcintosh

[raw walrus]

I have the JBL T290 earbuds anyways.

[elder thistle]

the soldering on my k92 failed pretty early on but I was able to fix it

[raw walrus]

Soldering???

[elder thistle]

the wire, basically

this graph reflects some things I didn't like about the k92

which for some reason the k72 measures a little better than the k92 but it's similar

you have all this bass and lower midrange in comparison to treble

and the bass having that dip at 60hz does some really weird things to kickdrums in music

takes out the impact and substitutes it with mud and then rumble

[raw walrus]

So the K72 is better in this case for some stuff?

[elder thistle]

it made the bass on my razer blackshark v2x sound clean

in comparison

[raw walrus]

I see that the K72 was first produced in 2015?

Is there something similar to the K72, but that was produced after 2018 (by AKG) with a similar price? I'd assume i would have to look in the 3 digit series?

[elder thistle]

alright new analogy for k72 now that I've been thinking about it

I don't know how universal it is since I've only heard such a thing twice

but imagine having the stock speakers in a late 90's cheap car, then poking a nice big hole in the door speaker specifically

it really sounds like a busted speaker to me

you can adapt to it and think "this is good" once you wear it for a while

but when I decided to get the mackie mc150's as a bass reference for making music,

I was actually floored

and in truth a lot of cheap headphones other than the mc150 would have done the same thing

even the hyperx cloud II

I heard all kinds of sounds that were erased by the k92

it sounded like every instrument used in the bass was a new instrument

I realized that the music I was listening to was snappy and fluctuated in volume more

[raw walrus]

Can i get an answer to my question?

[elder thistle]

idk

I don't think so

akg has a lot of headphones

are you able to find the monoprice modern retro or 512 audio academy

[raw walrus]

https://global.beyerdynamic.com/dt-770-pro.html

Friend reccomended me these

A bit out of the budget range

[supple robin]

look at either:
closed back - k361, k371
open back - ksc75, porta pros
or iems

[supple robin]

not good, too much treble according to graphs and reviewers, could be piercing

[elder thistle]

this is about closed backs with low availability

[supple robin]

got it

i didnt read the convo tbh

only a little bit

[raw walrus]

My friend (a radio DJ in the Netherlands) thinks otherwise.

[elder thistle]

I need to accomplish a random task

[supple robin]

we all have our own opinions audio is subjective

[elder thistle]

I'd say the dt770 is a lot more well rounded of a headphone than what we were looking at before

[raw walrus]

I couldn't find the K361 and K371's in my country unfortunately.

[supple robin]

sad

[elder thistle]

it's bright but it was still tolerable for me

and it's easy to turn the treble down to normal with free software

[raw walrus]

Actually

https://www.musix.com/de/mk/AKG-K361-209289.html

This site has them

But like

This is a site which sells them in Germany and they have Macedonian language

However, i do literally have a cousin that drives people all the way from Germany to my country with his personal van

He can deliver them to me

one slight problem

last time he crashed his van in Strumica (it was foggy)

[ionic ibex]

is this legal

did u just admit to smuggling

[elder thistle]

is he delivering the people to you

[raw walrus]

Oh god

I didn't mean that 💀

He delivers passengers which travel

Not like...

[lean grove]

just say he's a driver

[elder thistle]

[raw walrus]

If i was smuggling people, i wouldn't be asking for 100 dollar headphones lol

[ionic ibex]

hmmm

seems like someone who was smuggling people would say

[raw walrus]

I meant in that case I'd have more money and ask for more expensive headphones lol

All the jokes aside, i wouldn't really trust my cousin for delivering me stuff from Germany, as it's his 2nd time he's crashed a van into a house.

Ok tbf the first time was to avoid a head on / frontal colission.

[ionic ibex]

maybe invest in glasses

what country are you from

[raw walrus]

Maybe he should invest in sleeping and not relying on 6 drinks of red bull.

[ionic ibex]

maybe

[raw walrus]

Macedonia, whatever you want to call it.

The Balkans!

[ionic ibex]

what else would i call it

[raw walrus]

Well... we changed our name

[ionic ibex]

yeah

[raw walrus]

But i won't get into politics.

[ionic ibex]

republic of north macedonia?

[raw walrus]

That's the official name.

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Devine-PRO-950-DJ-Headphones/dp/B07NBLRMC3

sadge

Is there a huge difference between the K361 and the K371?

[elder thistle]

I could tolerate the midrange blurring together on the k371 more because it wasn't as loud

mostly tone related things

some stuff with games

[raw walrus]

So it is not a huge deal?

Cuz the K361 is closer to my price range and cheaper

K361 doesn't leak audio?

Does it come with a mic or not?

[elder thistle]

no mic, I don't think it leaks audio much iirc

I do find the low instrument separation a problem for busier music, but how big of a problem it'd be for you comes down to preference

but with that caveat aside, yes I think the k361 makes more sense for your use case

[raw walrus]

Radio friend from NL says the K361 is good.

I think i will consider the K361 then

I will have to visit the audio stores myself to see if they have those

[elder thistle]

good idea

[raw walrus]

Ok now mic time

https://www.anhoch.com/product/599269841/microphone-hyperx-solocast
Microphone HyperX SoloCast

81.13 EUR

[hot veldt]

Hello everyone i need some advice on a mini amp

[raw walrus]

Friend suggested me these at 79 EUR:
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/streaming-gear/snowball-ice-usb-microphone.988-000067.html

[hot veldt]

Im picking up some b&w speakers for my set up but i need a small 25/50watt 2.0 channel amp does anyone have any recommendations in that area of audio

[raw walrus]

65 - 79 EUR

[lean grove]

fosi za3 is a pretty good little amp. its got a lot more power than what you need but it will still work fine. idk if you're gonna be able to find a better amp for less unless you look at the used market

actually you didnt give a budget

whats your budget

and is this for a desktop or in a living room

[raw walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVfcLEERG3o

[hot veldt]

€25/€50 i can push it to €60

[hot veldt]

Desktop set up

[lean grove]

oh yeah thats uhh. a tight budget

[hot veldt]

I was looking at these 2

LEPY LP-VS3 25Wx2 Amplifier + HiFi Delayed Protection + 5A Power Supply Euro Plug https://amzn.eu/d/g3RoMPh

DollaTek TPA3110 30W * 2 Two Channel Mini Stereo Audio Wireless Bluetooth Amplifier Digital Signal Power AMP for Tablet PC Smartphone Laptops ect - Gold https://amzn.eu/d/7U5EMj6

Both atleast 90+ reviews and 4stars overall

I am actually using a fosi a20bt in my main set up

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-indecisive-alf-alien-puppet-gif-10222820

yeah both of those look mid

[hot veldt]

Yeahh thats true but im not gone run very high and speakers of it

Picking up these tomorrow for the set up

[lean grove]

i wouldn't consider those "not high end" but

these amps are gonna be noisy

ive seen some people talk about the AIYIMA A07

[hot veldt]

Im getting them from a audio phile for like €200

[lean grove]

something like this is still going to be noisy, it might have a little hum to it from the power supply

[hot veldt]

Sorry €240

[hot veldt]

Yeah that only happens when i crank those little amps to the max i know what u mean😂

But in my use case i almost never turn the volume knob over 55/60% and even than i still just use my pc to change volume from there

[lean grove]

maybe just get the 40 euro amp and save some money for the fosi za3 or fosi v3 eventually

cuz those guys are very good for the money

[hot veldt]

Aiyama ao7 is a €100+ where i life

[lean grove]

rip

[hot veldt]

Yeah😂

But if u would have to pick between the 2 i put in chat witch one would u recommend?

[raw walrus]

So?

[warm scarab]

mid

[lean grove]

the dollatek. its smaller, looks like it has a bigger knob for better control, bluetooth is pretty useful, and the case doesnt look like the cheapest

[hot veldt]

Fair points haha

I am looking at a review ppl ate actually reccomending the lepy

And also i would like to be able to control the bass/treble

Fosi Audio BT10A Bluetooth 5.0 Amplifier Stereo Audio Receiver, 2 Channel Class D Mini Hi-Fi Integrated TPA3116 Amp, for Home Speakers 50W x 2 https://amzn.eu/d/gPzeIWd

@lean grove how about this?

[spark egret]

omfg someone help

is it me or why tf cant i wear headphones no more

they just uncomfortable

[lean grove]

Fosi has only recently started making good stuff. A lot of their old stuff is really just okay and maybe kinda bad.

So I'd still get the cheap one and save for the nice fosi

[sinful wasp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[elder thistle]

introducing: speakers

but give your skin a break, have the room slightly cold, dont eat a whole ass pizza, and take a second to seat and reseat the headphones

slso which headphones? what part is bothering you?

[oak panther]

I'm looking to buy a headphone for myself... Anker Soundcore life q10i and JBL tune 510BT fits within my budget 4k INR. Over the ear type is must, else I'd chosen Sony Wh-ch520.Which one has better quality and reliability Soundcore or JBL?My primary needs ... BT with AUX support, comfortable, good battery backup, and of course great sound.
I'm from India, budget around 4k

Please ping

[spark egret]

I need a mic and ion want whole house hear what im listening to

[spark egret]

Within seconds it starts bothering me

[spark egret]

Some trust cheap hedphones, around my ears

[drowsy blade]

Anyone know of a portable CD player and tape deck. Not a boombox with built in speakers, just something compact and good quality with a line out

[hot veldt]

My budget went up to €120 for a amp

Any recommendations at that price

[drowsy blade]

What kind of amp? Headphone amp? PA amp? Monitor amp?

[hot veldt]

The guy i picked the speakers up from have me the speaker cables with it so saved some money

[hot veldt]

Amp for the b&w 686 i just picked up for my new desktop set up

Getting a new monitor tomorrow with speaker wall mounts

I alreadu have a speaker cable now i just need a solid amp and done

[dim drift]

Would this be the right channel to come to to ask for audio teck tips or help trouble shooting audio issues?

[lean grove]

Fosi V3 or fosi za3

[molten skiff]

what is good pair of head phones for watching tv with

preferablly has a detachable cable

[lean grove]

hd650

[molten skiff]

I was told since senhieser usually has a weaker bass it isn't very good for movies and stuff is that not true ?

[lean grove]

depends on your definition of weaker. they extend pretty low and are pretty flat down to 40-50hz, and can still play 20hz.

but if you're the type of person who really likes the rumble of ultra deep bass or your head vibrating when the bass drops then yeah they could be seen as weak

everything else though they are pretty damn good

[molten skiff]

I already have the 560s would the 650s be worth the extra money

[lean grove]

what dont you like about the 560s

[molten skiff]

well I just want headphones for pc and one for my tv

Dont want to keep swaping them out