audio-tech

[chrome island]

Check if you can get Redragon H510 the wireless option

[fringe gulch]

🤣 no, none avaliable on the store for Brazil

my life sucks

[zealous sluice]

Need a new pair of Headphones
Not sure if I should just go for the boring route and buy some Sony XM5 for the ANC or something else.
I would like them to be wireless, anc is not required.

[warm scarab]

cloud 2 wireless

the og logitech g pro wireless was fairly bad

so is astro a50

[fringe gulch]

compared, the Alienware AW920H and the Astro A50, that honestly, are the only 2 avaliable for me right now, how bad would be the Alienware? im starting to think in going that route, since is one that i can use with the cable on the computer if needed, because from what i saw astro A50 you can only use wireless with the base, so if the batery runs out, i would need to let it recharge before using again

[errant wharf]

Isn't Alienware just overall bad?

[warm scarab]

i don't think alienware makes anything good

[errant wharf]

The only thing they are good at is siphoning money from uninformed buyers

[elder falcon]

Anyone know the big difference in the yeti and yeti x

[lean grove]

x

[fringe gulch]

alienware is really expensive, i can't deny that, but i love their warranty, i had an alienware area 51m r2 that i bought for 37k Brazillian reals, that after 3 years had a problem that the webcam died for no reason

since i had the complete care, they tried for 2 or 3 months to repair it here at my home, swaped the screen that has the included webcam, the motherboard, some other stuff, and even on a live linux the webcam couldnt work

after all that, they offered a refund i got my 37k back after 3 years, and bought a new aurora r15 and an alienware m-16 on black friday, and had 2k left over still

best investment of my life

[elder falcon]

Other then the x

[lean grove]

Looks like yeti x tries to compete with the elgato wave. Software, led knob, and warmer sound.

[elder falcon]

Yeah I've seen a few things like that not sure if it's worth the extra 60 quid

[lean grove]

It's arguable whether or not the yeti is worth the money either.

[elder falcon]

Its 99 in currys atm

[warm scarab]

it died because its alienware

[fringe gulch]

i know, and i got a free upgrade because of that

1 laptop with a desktop cpu, became a desktop, and a laptop later

[warm scarab]

this is a headphone

you won't get an upgrade when it breaks

because they can't make good headphones

historically unaccounted in alienware

[fringe gulch]

i know, but what options do i have? at the moment is alienware AW920H wireless, or Astro A50 Wireless from logitech, this last one only works wireless with the base, so if battery runs out, i need to let it charge, if i want to take out and use with my laptop, i need to take the base

i could get another g935 that for me actually is good, but in 1 or 2 years the mic should break again just from muting and unmuting

the cable also seems to dont connect anymore, at least still charges

[warm scarab]

https://www.amazon.com.br/s?k=cloud+2&crid=V6BH41H9KU2E&sprefix=clpud+%2Caps%2C387&ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_3_6

[fringe gulch]

im a bit afraid of getting from amazon and not an official store, most stuff sold on amazon are from randoms

[heady elbow]

Anyone got any good mics around $100?

I'm thinking of future upgrades from my current headset (corsair virtuoso wireless)

I know of the blue snowball and yeti mics, but if there is better for the price i'd prefer to get that

[haughty girder]

snowball and yeti were outdated 8 years ago

your best bet at 100 bucks is either M track solo + xm8500 + cheap mic arm setup

or cheap mic arm + ATR2100x

[hybrid turret]

does anyone have experience with guitarrig

i can't get sound out of my guitar from my amp

do i need to get headphones or a headphone adapter with 1/4?

[heady elbow]

alr thx

[sweet cloud]

Yo I have a question. My earbuds broke and I'm looking for a pair of wired headphones. Anyone know of anything good and comfortable under 120-IshUSD? Might be weird to ask here but imma try.

[warm scarab]

@lean grove do you know any good sub 50$ iems

[lean grove]

There's the new crinacle one.

"new" as in a month or two old

[warm scarab]

is it uh, good or

another cra incident

[lean grove]

Idk.

Salnotes zero 2 look like they're a smidgen bassier than the 1

Don't look bad.

[warm scarab]

hmm

okay

[haughty girder]

Truthear x Crinacle Zero Red

It's 55 msrp but with a coupon on AliExpress you can get it under 50

[warm scarab]

k ty

[haughty girder]

Do note that the nozzle is quite wide, but aside from that it's pretty much the best under 100 as well

[spark egret]

Any good mic recommendations for less than 50€(can also be 50€), i will mostly be using it for talking to my friends... Also i live in Croatia so there is not very much options so plz help

[haughty girder]

Samson q2u

[warm scarab]

fifine t669

[haughty girder]

Fine k669/t669 (note that this is really sensitive to background noise)

[spark egret]

there is neither of those here

[spark egret]

ion like that

[haughty girder]

tonor 777 is also usable

[spark egret]

also preferably with a tripod

[haughty girder]

I found the only other person int the world who says ion instead of I don't

[spark egret]

idgaf

[modest cave]

Arrived. :)

[haughty girder]

👍 Enjoy!!

[haughty girder]

nono it's cause I do that too with friends lmao

[craggy falcon]

are headsets considered audio tech?

[spark egret]

ooh mbmb

yall is microphone fantech mcx02 good?

or FANTECH MCX01

[umbral meadow]

I was curious if anyone could possibly help me diagnose a problem that I am having with my gaming headset

[errant wharf]

Broke?

[lean grove]

Yes

[umbral meadow]

possibly, i have the hyper X cloud 3 wireless and ever so often the sound becomes staticy

[umbral charm]

Does anyone else have liberty air 2 pros or any earbuds that you can tweak the EQ of?

I got mine this morning, I knew you could change the EQ but didn't think I'd have to but out of the box it doesn't sound how I thought it would lol

Bass is fine but everything else sounds so much quiter or muffled dont really know 🤷‍♂️

Had a look around to see if I could find good settings for genres or just in general but none of them feel like they do anything

After listening a bit more I can 100% say that the beat is louder than the vocals 🥲

Very bass heavy

[wintry canopy]

Hey guys, i had just posted this in the tech-support channel, but just in case there might be some knowledgeable people, i will just paste it here as well, sorry that it's that long, i hope that it won't interfere with anyone's conversation😅

My laptop (HP Elitebook 830 G7; 16gb ram, 256gb ssd, w11, everything in a pretty much prestine condition) always cuts my audio quality extremely low whenever i join a discord voice channel or have a zoom meeting. Those are the only examples, cause i haven't really done anything else with it, as it isn't my main pc. So basically i have spotify in background on headphones (ATH - M20xBT), (through 3,5mm jack, not bluetooth, i know that people have had this issue with bluetooth, but i'm using wired) and everything is great, love the sound. The moment i enter a discord voice channel or join a zoom meeting, the quality becomes horrible. I don't know why, I've already put quite a few hours into researching this issue, but still haven't solved. I have tried a lot of options, but hopefully not all of them. I remember that disabling/enabling audio enchantments in control panel sound settings would give me back the quality, but then my audio would cut from the call I'm in at the moment, which is weird...? And well, i just always get tired from this issue and just get on my main pc, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE THAT ISSUE, and i don't know why! That's so stupid Also i hope that i get notifications from this post, will look at dc settings cause I've just been looking around this server, not posting anything anywhere lol. Anyways sorry for the essay that i made, just trying to explain everything as well as i can. Sooo.... can anyone help me with this one?

[lean grove]

If it's just your laptop with this issue I have no idea. Check with HP tech support I guess.

Weird problem for sure.

[molten dawn]

bet youve never heard what an underwater tin of beans sounds like 😼

[narrow saffron]

alr, thanks again

[sweet cloud]

Ath-m50xs on the way

[lean grove]

Condolences

[sweet cloud]

Lmao why

[lean grove]

I do not like the m50x

[sweet cloud]

Oh

[harsh heron]

Is the jump for cloud 2 to cloud 3 worth the $45?

[steel escarp]

Rip

Its one of those headphones that got recommended by some youtubers. Then people would buy it and also recommended it without trying anything else. So it ended up becoming really popular even though there are way better options available.

[elder thistle]

or, some people get a lot of performance out of it

like I do

probably both

high separation is basically the mark of a studio headphone

well at least for mixing and overall production

[haughty girder]

okay I'm convinced you don't know shit

Mixing and overall production wdym

Mixing should ALWAYS be done on flat speakers in a sound treated room

M50x has the opposite of seperation

it's mudbass and dark at the same time

and the mark of s studio headphone is pretty much down to durability

because studio doesn't mean shit lmao

[sweet cloud]

Well I need it to run without any equipment. Like outta a normal 3.5 port. Also comfort is almost as important as sound quality to me. I didn't see much at that range for what I needed.

[untold otter]

It's an aight headphone. Just incredibly overhyped and overpriced

Should be like a 3rd of the price

[steel escarp]

the midbass overpowers everything

[untold otter]

...which I'm okay with for certain types of music listening, but for "mixing" and music production like it's advertised for, it's bad

I can see why people would not be okay with it though

I personally think it's nowhere near as bad as people say it is, but nowhere near deserving of the price tag it has

[lean grove]

its worse than the koss headphones and meme iems

so its really hard to justify at any price

[untold otter]

Yeah but they're more comfortable than Koss

Plus "removable" cable

Still would take any cheap-ish IEMs over em tho

[robust hamlet]

hyper x cloud 2 headset works fine on my desktop. plugged the dongle into my laptop and no audio at all out of them. i get this x on volume and cant change it. any help would be great..

[elder thistle]

mixing on headphones doesn't have a whole lot to do with the frequency response

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516133173889990688/918327506942185502/giphy_-_2020-08-11T154253.630.gif

[elder thistle]

it's more important that whatever frequency response it has is "learnable"

things that aren't usually learned are narrow bandwidth peaks and dips

the bass quantity on the m50x is very learnable. the notch it has is a little questionable. and more importantly the bass kinda just sucks in terms of speed and control

or that's at least my take

[lean grove]

dont you think there's better options for $150 tho

[elder thistle]

for mixing? uhh depends on what parts, and which genres too

I mean the mc450 can sometimes be found new around that price, but that's open back

same with hd560s but I'd only use it for calmer genres

k371 in my books is like... permissable for rap and hip hop probably and almost nothing else, compared to the m50x

dt770 250 ohm might be decent enough to outdo the m50x in most ways

but I only have the 80 ohm, and a dt990 250 ohm

for mixing just bass though?

mc450 if it's not hip hop or rap, or k371 all the way

[lean grove]

i just think it's hard to justify something as a recommendation if its good for one thing. like if it works for you, great. but if someones coming in here asking for advice i'd rather hook them up with something that actually sounds decent.

you can't pick the exact shoe that fits someone through discord recommendations. so start with a one size fits most and hope for the best.

you're more likely to miss with a sniper shot than a shotgun when you're firing blind, y'know?

[elder thistle]

yes, but bass mix checks or vocal monitoring is realistically the primary purpose of headphones in more well-off home studios

[lean grove]

why not use IEMs?

isolates better, cheaper, sounds better,

more consistent frequency response

[elder thistle]

more consistent in bass?

[lean grove]

assuming you get a good seal, yeah id think so.

[elder thistle]

but insertion depth

[lean grove]

a lot of iems these days some with like, 4-6 pairs of tips for you to try and see what works best for you.

i dont think bass gets changed by insertion depth. i would think thats more in the treble frequencies where the wavelengths are significant to the size of your canal

[elder thistle]

it's also pretty important for a headphone to be both fast to put on and take off, and take some abuse

[unique wind]

iem supremacy

[elder thistle]

IEMs might work pretty well in a few tasks

[lean grove]

idk about you but i can take an iem off faster with one hand faster than i can take off a headphone

[elder thistle]

I mean they were developed for the purpose of live monitoring lol

[lean grove]

i wear them at work and i have no issue taking them out as soon as someone starts talking to me

[elder thistle]

yeah but the whole transaction to a/b between speakers needs to be as fast as possible

human audio memory is generally not that good when it comes to mixing tasks

[lean grove]

@unique wind have you heard anything about these iems https://www.linsoul.com/products/bqeyz-weather-series-wind

[unique wind]

i have never seen that before

[lean grove]

it looks like they got some crusher style bass drivers

[elder thistle]

wait that's awesome

[lean grove]

ive seen it in some other iems before, i forget which ones

subtonic storms?

idk

[narrow saffron]

is this good for 120ohms?

[lean grove]

The ohms don't tell you how hard a headphone is to run.

But yeah probably

[narrow saffron]

alright thanks

[tacit stirrup]

You also wanna look at the sensitivity in conjunction with impedance.

[narrow saffron]

what does that mean

i don't really know anything about that stuff

[tacit stirrup]

In layman's terms, sensitivity is how efficient headphones are.

[narrow saffron]

what is the sensitivity for the dt 880 pls

[tacit stirrup]

Which impedance variant do you have? (80, 250, 600)

[narrow saffron]

250

[lean grove]

96 db. The ohms will tell you how much power and what kind of power your amp will need to deliver.

Lower ohms let's you extract more power from the amp.

High ohms let's you extract less power, but the amp is happier and is easier for it.

The sensitivity will tell you how loud the headphones will get with the power delivered.

96 db / mW means that at 1 mW of power, they will get 96db loud. Which is quite loud.

But music has loud parts and quiet parts. So really what you're gonna be hearing is gonna be around 85 db

Which is like, someone talking loudly at you.

[haughty girder]

ok that's sitll wrong though

it's really bad for mixing. most headphones are.

but for music production, them as a monitoring headphone is perfect

the swivel earcups and such are actually great... but monitoring headphones can literally be anything

[narrow saffron]

i love when people talk loud to me

[haughty girder]

for the record insertion depth is actually fairly consistent with most eartips

far more consistent than getting a seal with a closed back

especially the M50x

[narrow saffron]

wait so do i need to find something that says 96 db?

[lean grove]

No.

That's the efficiency of the headphone

Or the 880s at least

[narrow saffron]

oooh

[lean grove]

Find a headphone power calculator online, put your headphones specs in, and then set the target db to like 100db or 110db and see how much power/voltage you need. 100db max is gonna cover like, 95% of use cases.
110db max is gonna be 99.9% of use cases.

[slim rose]

yo

any good over ear headphone recs under 100$

currently using akg k72

[lean grove]

not a lot of over-ear unfortunately.

under $100 th eonly thing thats good is on-ear or in-ear

[slim rose]

the on ears hurt when worn over a long period of time. also i wear glasses so it hurts even more

[slim rose]

in ears work. are they like iems?

[lean grove]

yeah

[slim rose]

so what do you recommend?

also is there anyway i can tune my current headset?

[lean grove]

yeah you can use autoeq

for in-ears, i would probably say truthear hexa or truthear zero red

[slim rose]

thanks

[nova crest]

can anyone vouch for the quality of Moondrop space travel? by far the only wireless earbuds that best fits my budget

[untold otter]

i didn't mention monitoring because like you said, monitoring can be anything

but i guess that was an error on my part and i'll take full responsibility of it

[elder thistle]

Well some of the options are things like the shure srh440a, Mackie mc250, ath-m40x, Sony mdr7506, sennheiser hd280 pro

I've only used the first two

I generally prefer the srh440a because the instrument separation was higher and the build is both sturdier and subjectively more comfortable

Mc250 had much more Soundstage and better game imaging

Both are pretty neutral. Srh440a has more bass volume and more correct sounding treble

[slim rose]

Thanks

[foggy sluice]

hello Lebanon

do you care about sound quality? and what's your preferred signature (bassy, bright, neutral as possible)

[copper kelp]

hey guys
i bought the galaxy buds and they were okay but they (or at least one) died after a year

i then bought the buds plus and they were also good for 1-2 years

but again, same issue

i need some decent buds for music
no budget but it be cool if i can stay under 200$

[foggy sluice]

^

[copper kelp]

my audio knowledge is non existent
i just want something universally accepted as "they sound good"
and thatl probably be enough lmao

[foggy sluice]

do you like heavier bass?

or do you like neutrality

or do you like bright (more treble)

my main recs would probably be truthear novas or a gizaudio Chopins with a wireless adapter

I'm researching wireless adapters rn

@copper kelp do you play music loud or do you prefer anc?

[copper kelp]

loud music

dont care for anc

[foggy sluice]

so go truthear novas if you prefer a neutral sound, and Chopins for bassiness

I'm discussing wireless adapters right now

[molten lotus]

anyone know the name of this mic?

[lean grove]

its either an at2020 or one of the hundreds of other mics that copied its design

[hybrid turret]

The dt880 lacks bass, which dt has better bass?

There's like nothing grounding the highs

Everything sounds just bad

[lean grove]

the 770s and 990s have a lot more bass than the 880s, but they also have more treble

how long have you been using the 880s

[unique wind]

use eq

dt880 with eq will have the best bass out of the three original beyerdynamic headphones

[haughty girder]

that looks like an at2020, but the gray makes me think it's a knockoff of some sort

Since it's definitely an XLR cable plugged into it, gray at2020 were usb versions

But the CE logo location is correct so it might just be lighting and camera processing causing the difference in shades

Not that I'd recommend the at2020 though. It's a little harsh for my liking

Blue ember, Neat worker bee, xm8500, SE v7 are all better mics at the same (or cheaper) price

[hybrid turret]

two days so far

[hybrid turret]

how do i eq?

any software you rec?

[unique wind]

equalizerAPO

(for windows)

[hybrid turret]

https://equalizerapo.com/download.html

this?

[unique wind]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

[hybrid turret]

how do you open it?

i installed it but it's not coming up as equalizerAPO

[hybrid turret]

i opened it ut idk what any of this means

do you know which one i can change for more bass

[narrow saffron]

i think those are only for pros

but there are presets i think and it does have it for the dt 880

[hybrid turret]

how would i get the preset??

[lean grove]

Give it a few more days. Your brain needs to get adjusted to the new sound signature

[hybrid turret]

it sounds barely different from my hyper x cloud iis

[steel escarp]

I mean actually fair

[molten lotus]

idk but the audio on the hyperx cloud alpha wireless is so good

[steel escarp]

Treble is a bit better on the dt880

[molten lotus]

I may get clowned for it but it's actually amazing to me

[steel escarp]

And everything should sound bigger

[unique wind]

you can copy these filters

[boreal ether]

Are xm5s worth getting for 286 over AirPods Max ?

like 300 less :p

[elder thistle]

uh

probably

will depend on how much you value the extra features or improvements of the airpods max vs xm5. and vice versa

[haughty girder]

What are you trying to prioritize?

IMO QC45 are tuned better, XM5 are more stylish, and Airpods max have the best transparency mode. ANC is comparable across all of them

[molten skiff]

Is there good wire for the truth ear headphones that don't have the shit where the wire is suppose to loop over your ear

[tacit barn]

I only need an amp if I want higher volume with the dt 990/770 pros right

[warm scarab]

max sounds pretty bad

xm5 sounds bad stock too imo bur easily eqable

[warm scarab]

"need" yes

"benefit" debatable but realistically speaking at that price bracket any money you want to put into your audio chain should go to your headphones in any case

also don't get the 600ohm version without an amp

and dt880>990>770

[tacit barn]

I’m only getting the 80

Don’t need any other tbh

[warm scarab]

250 is a bit better

people can generally get it loud enough from motherboards

[tacit barn]

Would I need anything better just to listen to footsteps and twitch/yt tho

i don’t need anything rlly special

[warm scarab]

you don't

[tacit barn]

Perfect

[tacit barn]

Does it really matter if I get one refurbished

I mean hey

I save $10

[warm scarab]

as long as you are fine with it tbh

doesn't really matter

people sometimes get upset if another has worn it for a few days

[tacit barn]

Which is nice cuz refurbished + the 250 ohm pro is $149.99

And I only have $150

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/995855734690549860.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[tacit barn]

Whomp whomp. That’s what wipes are for

[elder thistle]

these are dipped in the frequency response area where footsteps have their thud sound

the clack part would be easily heard though

you can eq some upper bass in, but it would cost you some volume. volume you have little of with the 250 ohm

this is why gaming headsets often have "aweful" tuning

nobody really likes a ton of 200-400hz and very bright treble, but it works

[tacit barn]

^

[hollow lynx]

i'm making an audio latency tester with a physical device and all, and the tone would be a 8Hz square wave. the device is supposed to be connected via 3.5mm jack, i know speakers can't play those tones.

if a speaker/headphones does happen to be connected, would this damage any equipment?

[elder thistle]

i

why is it an 8hz square wave?

you'll at least get click sounds from headphones and speakers

a lot of headphones can't really play 8hz at a relevant volume level anyways

whether you kill headphones or speakers with it will depend on how loud the square wave is

[hollow lynx]

because i can sync the rising edge timing and calculate audio latency

it's not for testing any kind of speaker

it's for testing sound card + OS audio stack latency

it has to be directly connected to the 3.5mm output

[lean grove]

people typically use an impulse for that, not a square wave

but as far as i know, as long as the square wave doesn't have a voltage higher than whatever device you put it into can handle, it should be fine

[elder thistle]

you should highpass the square wave

[lean grove]

well, as long as its not a super low frequency square wave

yeah

too much DC could cook something

[elder thistle]

also note that the shape of the recorded signal will vary

depending on which headphone

[lean grove]

impulse response would be better

oh its 8hz

yeah thats too low

[elder thistle]

it will never be a neat vertical line shape like a real square wave

and how you're recording them could have a big impact

you may want to record a normal sine wave and then deduce the phase somehow

uh

[hollow lynx]

oh i know, i'm accounting for that

[hollow lynx]

i'm literally just shoving a mosfet in front

[elder thistle]

or ignore phase and quantify delay as whenever the recorded waveform deviates higher or lower than the bounds of the noise floor, with an impulse

[hollow lynx]

the problem with an impulse is how big (in samples) do i make each impulse

[elder thistle]

a square wave is kind of like an impulse, is it not?

[hollow lynx]

all i need to do is measure the time it takes for the samples to go from a desktop application to the line out/headphones out, and currently what i'm doing is just measuring the rising edge of an 8Hz square wave with a mosfet (with diode and opamp)

so impulses should work

[elder thistle]

oh

I thought you were putting a microphone in a pair of headphones

and measuring bluetooth latency or something

[hollow lynx]

nono, it's way more stupid, it's just a setup to test rhythm game setup configurations

[elder thistle]

that solves a lot of problems

[hollow lynx]

also, the square wave not being an exact square wave doesnt really matter, because like at 44.1/48KHz a potential 10, 20 or whatever samples it takes to get to the threshold is way way way less time than what i'm measuring

like most setups have about 50-100ms of latency, and with some very fine tuned setups i've seen 7-10ms. that's what i wanna measure, so i don't need anything fancy

[elder thistle]

square wave is fine then

you might be 1 or 2 samples off but that's 50us each

or square highpassed at 1khz or something

[hollow lynx]

8Hz and high-passed at 1KHz

would that even work

ohhhh it creates tiny impulses

[elder thistle]

ye

[hollow lynx]

1KHz is a bit fast though

[elder thistle]

100hz is slightly better because of less phase change

[hollow lynx]

not sure if my thing can keep up

it was 10s of 8Hz measured on the rising edge, so 400 measurements total

[elder thistle]

well you could just do 20hz if needed... the point is that it won't jeopardize headphones or speakers

100hz would be very safe

I'll try 80hz -12db highpass

[hollow lynx]

buf if i high pass it, it creates still 400 measurements, right?

[elder thistle]

yes

[hollow lynx]

ohhhh it's audacity's stupid sample view

alright so it's become like this

now i need to remove all the ones that start low

[elder thistle]

here's mine

computer generated is top, recorded is bottom

an easy solution here would be to distort the crap out of it and then decide that whenever the audio of either channel exceeds +-x volume, it's the rising edge

when it's less than that, it resets

[hollow lynx]

i need it to be essentially 4Hz pulses, keeping only those that start in the positive range

like i only need to keep these

not the reverse ones

[elder thistle]

you might want to use a saw waveform then

one sec

[hollow lynx]

oh right

something like this

[elder thistle]

yes

and if I distort the crap out of them to just view the inner portion of the waveform, it looks like this

this also suggests that the zero-crossing may be a good place to judge delay as well

like where it goes from positive to negative

[hollow lynx]

yea

alright, thanks

[white gate]

What are you trying to do?

[white gate]

Unless you have a NOS DAC or super slow oversampling filter the output of the DAC itself won't actually be a square wave. There will be pre/post ringing

For latency testing generally the easier way would just be to set a threshold level for detection

[elder thistle]

to be clear, the distorted impulses there are around +36db from normalized

motu m4 at 44.1khz

but that kinda demonstrates where a threshold might be sensibly placed

not sure how much this varies between sources or how much of this is my adc

an oscilloscope would be the right way to determine this

[edgy grotto]

Does anyone know if Razer Barracuda Pro are any good !?

[sturdy geyser]

they are but I think the X version has a far better mic correct me if I’m wrong

[edgy grotto]

Don’t care about the mic - would be only using them to listen to music and/or YouTube … or just basic audio files

[elder thistle]

o

[edgy grotto]

!?

[sturdy geyser]

are u buying them cause they’re wireless?

[edgy grotto]

Ye - phone doesn’t have an audio port any more

[elder thistle]

there is another

[sturdy geyser]

I think you could find some better ones for cheaper since it wouldn’t have mics

[sturdy geyser]

this a lifesaver

[edgy grotto]

I don’t care about wired headphones unless I’m gaming

[sturdy geyser]

well are u gonna do gaming a lot?

[edgy grotto]

Got 2 separate headphones

[elder thistle]

the point is that options become available that are higher sound quality * per dollar

than wireless options

[sturdy geyser]

Then just get some studio headphones with an adapter

better sound since razer makes their headphones bass bigger for gaming purpose

[elder thistle]

those dongles aren't just mediocre dac/amps described by their price either

[edgy grotto]

I’m currently using the Razers Kraken Kitty headset, I just need some new ones cause the ear cups thing are getting busted and also the headband is coming apart

[sturdy geyser]

same but mine is like 6 years old somewhere

[elder thistle]

they're actually an amazing quality source for most dynamic headphones

[sturdy geyser]

@elder thistle is it worth getting wired headsets these days for gaming tho? Especially the ones that aren’t removable since I’d love the razer black shark v2 but I tend to break those wires fast

[edgy grotto]

Should I just save money and buy another set of the kitty set and leave the barracuda pro set !?

[sturdy geyser]

Kitty set is more expensive than normal set

ur talking about kraken v3?

[elder thistle]

uh... good point

[edgy grotto]

Just the V2

[sturdy geyser]

Why not v3

[elder thistle]

I mean the battery on the wireless ones are also finite lifespan parts

[sturdy geyser]

it’s still like 90

[elder thistle]

but the fact that the cables on headsets are rarely detachable is a sin

[edgy grotto]

Cause the V2 is £99

And haven’t looked at the V3

[elder thistle]

it's a solved problem that's been around for a couple decades even in the budget end, especially now

and the headset market is just refusing to implement it

[sturdy geyser]

that’s the problem cause u either pay 40% more for wireless or live everyday with the worry of breaking ur 120€ headset to the point where it can’t be fixed cause u screed the cable up

I’m looking at my current options but I’m not seeing many since I’m a razer fanboy

[sturdy geyser]

That’s overpriced isn’t it

[edgy grotto]

My end doesn’t have the V3 - it’s only got the V2 versions

[elder thistle]

I heard something about the razer app shutting off everyone's virtual surround sound feature or eq or something

[sturdy geyser]

Unless u bought it when v2 was brand new

[sturdy geyser]

I doubt it’s true

[edgy grotto]

Is mid range I think - the barracuda is 250 ish I think

[sturdy geyser]

What

From where are u buying???

[edgy grotto]

Razer them self

[elder thistle]

yeah te baracuda pro is pretty expensive from what I'm seeing in the u.s

[sturdy geyser]

why are they so expensive

x version is better tho

[edgy grotto]

https://www.razer.com/gb-en/gaming-headsets/Razer-Barracuda-Pro/RZ04-03780100-R3U1

249

[elder thistle]

if you mainly want music and such, you could afford a lot of nice objects with that kind of budget
like dt700 pro x or dt880, he400se + amp, hd560s or hd6xx, mc450, uh srh840+duct tape

[sturdy geyser]

have u got any recommendations for some wireless gaming sets?

[elder thistle]

I only have some wired ones

[sturdy geyser]

That isn’t that crazy expensive

[sturdy geyser]

I’m interested if it’s detachable

[edgy grotto]

I don’t need game sets - just need it for basic audio … I’ve already got a gaming headset

[sturdy geyser]

Then u should opt for something not from razer

they’re gonna be more expensive cause they have mics

or generally gaming headset catalog unless u prefer it (for this purpose)

[edgy grotto]

I don’t care about the mic cause I’ll probably won’t use at all

Plus most headsets have mics now

[elder thistle]

what kind of music would you be listening to

[sturdy geyser]

The ones that are meant for gaming yeah

[edgy grotto]

Spotify and YouTube… and other stuff

[sturdy geyser]

Genre?

[edgy grotto]

Any

[elder thistle]

😅

the holy grail

or redefining "good" so that a headphones meets the standard of "every genre sounding good"

I mean the akg k371 is kind of versatile? but sounds pretty mashed together with intense music imo

[edgy grotto]

What - the last couple songs I’ve listen to have verify from Ed Sheeran, AC/DC, some musicals, NF, Michael Bublé, ABBA and some random shit what I haven’t removed since I’ve had Spotify

[sturdy geyser]

@elder thistle how much does a decent mic cost?

[elder thistle]

an hd6xx probably does a lot better with metal but still is kinda dim in the treble without eq, but yes eq exists, but for rap and hip hop if you eq that up there's distortion at moderate+ volumes

uh

well my at2020 was $75 on sale

[sturdy geyser]

I’m considering maybe I should do a mic n headphone separate setup

[elder thistle]

but it's plugged into a motu m4 which serves other purposes too

there's some hot competition in the sub $50 area for usb mics

personally I like the smooth and not-as-cheesy sound of the vegue vm50

[sturdy geyser]

Is doing that a good option if ur mainly using it for communication while gaming or is it not worth it

[edgy grotto]

I’ve got 2 separate headphones, ones is wireless and use for my phone and another one what’s wired for gaming

[elder thistle]

there's also the razer sirien mini and fifine k669? I think it was

and a few others

[sturdy geyser]

isn’t the razer one like 90 something

[elder thistle]

strengths and weaknesses for each

[sturdy geyser]

I saw it in store

[sturdy geyser]

cause I’m gonna be buying a headset or doing this since my headphones won’t be compatible with pc

dunno if the latency is High or not or overall worth it

[elder thistle]

a lot of these modern wireless headsets (not wireless headphones, like sony xm5 or airpods) have a usb transmitter/receiver that's designed to be really low latency

I wouldn't personally shy away from ones like that on the basis of latency

[edgy grotto]

Blue Yeticaster Professional Broadcast Bundle with Yeti USB Microphone, Radius III Shockmount, Compass Boom Arm and Blue VO!CE Effects for Recording, Streaming, Gaming, Podcasting - Black https://amzn.eu/d/aho3KLY

This is the mic I’m going to get at some point - just need something to go with it when I’m done upgrading my pc

[elder thistle]

generally things under 10ms are considered basically realtime

[sturdy geyser]

what do u plug the entire thing up into so that it would work also?

I don’t know much about condenser mics

[elder thistle]

that is one serious arm, but I don't think the yeti holds up as well these days

[edgy grotto]

Or get a mic and headphones separately

[elder thistle]

depending on the generation it's like 15 years old and a consumer usb mic

it would probably last forever though

and be plenty clear

[elder thistle]

the adapter goes into a pc's usb port

like a wireless mouse would

[sturdy geyser]

oh

does it have to be put in a boom arm or can it be something else

[elder thistle]

wait I think we're talking about different things

I meant a modern wireless headset that has an attached mic will come with a usb wireless dongle of sorts that creates a high speed wireless mic+headphone connection to the pc

a usb mic + normal wired headphones combo would work by plugging the mic in via usb and the headphones into a 3.5mm headphone jack on the pc

[sturdy geyser]

I’m talking about headphone and mic separated

[elder thistle]

if you splurged for an xlr mic, it'd plug into an audio interface of sorts (like behringer umc22) and then that plugs into a computer with usb

[edgy grotto]

Either get a separate mic and headphone

Or a wired headphone/mic bundle thing

Or a wireless headset bundle

[sturdy geyser]

It’s either wireless “studio” headphones with an external mic or wireless headset with mic internally

[elder thistle]

wym by the 2nd one?

[sturdy geyser]

Would this be a good option for a first mic?

[edgy grotto]

Built in mics to the headphones

[sturdy geyser]

ATH-M20XBT would pair somewhat good with this

[elder thistle]

sorry I was digging for something

[sturdy geyser]

would a mic that’s approximately 70-60 euros would be a decent beginner mic?

[elder thistle]

I'd say so yes

[sturdy geyser]

I really don’t know much about them 😭

[elder thistle]

the razer sirien mini is one such option. it sounds pretty crisp to me and otherwise full and detailed. but I don't like the sound of the treble that much

[sturdy geyser]

it’s not crazy expensive tho so

[elder thistle]

you can buy microphone arm kits for these microphones for about $20

+- some amount

there was one I saw that was just $16

mine was about $55

[sturdy geyser]

obv depends on quality tho doesnt it

[elder thistle]

sort of, but not for the ones around $16-30

they're the same device but rebranded and with different adapters

so these are normal wired headphones yes

sorta

and with a detachable cable

however there are microphone cables such as this v-moda boompro, which costs $20

and that plugs into some headphones like so:

these are the sennheiser hd560s with the dust covers removed

which was crazy to do but yes

however I had to drill out and solder in a 3.5mm headphone jack to replace the existing detachable cable mechanism. which was 2.5mm with some "keying" to prevent people from buying generic 3rd party cables

so on it's own you can never fit a $20 mic cable like this into a sennheiser hd560s

few headphones allow this

but the mackie mc450 does

I have spoken

[sturdy geyser]

What am I looking at

that looks like a really abused headset

@elder thistle also sorry for disappearing power went out could I send u a private message when ur free?

[elder thistle]

sure

[sturdy geyser]

just did

[elder thistle]

the pads are new and the driver+damping is still the same, but the chassis is in fact beaten to shit because I had to dremel out a plastic cage and hot glue the metal grills back in

[sturdy geyser]

Everything else looks nice but the chassis.

[elder thistle]

lol

well they're decent headphones imo, they're pretty neutral in tone and have quite a wide soundstage

they clamp kinda hard but otherwise they were relatively comfortable for me

the neutrality/balance is the primary reason to get them if you ask me. like when eq isn't something someone wants to do. having some bass like that is actually rare in open back headphones

[unique wind]

560s and 6xx best sennys

6xx has better treble and 560s has better bass

[haughty girder]

That's all sennheisers

you can stretch the headband out a bit

it helps a lot

HD560s and the other 5 series with that design are among the most comfortable headphones I've ever used

[elder thistle]

I still don't think they're that competitive in other areas though

[haughty girder]

560s?

[elder thistle]

ye

[haughty girder]

At the price there isn't much competition

Granted I hate the DT990 and every AKG open back other than the 612

[elder thistle]

competitive is relative to price

I don't think the hd560s is great at instrument separation or bass control

or imaging

[haughty girder]

None of the sennheisers are.

that's what makes them so special.

They aren't the best at anything

but every other headphone that people use there's always something wrong

or a dealbreaker

and when you go back to the Senns

they just feel like home

[elder thistle]

hm

that's fair

I just personally consider some of the things as "wrong" for the sennheisers

not screaming wrong

as I'd consider some of the frequency response stuff for the mc450 is wrong but not screaming wrong

[spark trout]

Is a Samson G Track Pro good?

[haughty girder]

idk what's the MC450, and by Sennheisers I refer to only the "classics"

ie. HD540 Gold, 580P/J, 600, 650/6xx, 560s

HD599 is a mixed bag, but if you can get at a good price it's alright as well

[elder thistle]

its the...

[haughty girder]

I find most Sennheisers to be kinda bad

They don't have a single good closed back

[haughty girder]

I've never heard those before

or even heard of them

[elder thistle]

legendary

[hollow lynx]

well thats fine, sampling rate is many orders of magnitude faster than what i'm measuring

like i just measured my motherboard's line out, and i got 48ms ±1ms

counting my very unoptimized audio stack

at 44.1KHz sampling rate that's like 5 orders of magnitude, it really doesn't matter

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[topaz cedar]

Only problem I have with the 700 Pro X by Beyerdynamic, is the long connector coming out the bottom of the headphones, of you don't seat the headphones on your head just right, it will jab you in your shoulder every time you tilt your head

[harsh heron]

So I’m currently looking to get a more “audiophile setup” and I’m looking to know what kind of upgrades I should get, current setup - hd560s, pc37x, ksc75, tanzu waner, edifier mr4s, cx 31993, Fifine a6t. What do yall think would be the next step to better audio?

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[harsh heron]

Which products specifically

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[lean grove]

Hd6xx or 600 and maybe a nice amp/DAC.

[harsh heron]

What’s like a mid tier dac and amp

[lean grove]

Define mid tier and for what goals

[harsh heron]

Goals is to listen to music and mid tier as in like $100 and under and a decent used market for them

[lean grove]

Ah. Well I meant more subjective/objective but schiit and jds labs would be my recommendations

Schiit has a healthy used market. They got a new magni unity which can have a DAC built in. Seems pretty good for a combo unit.

Keep an eye out for asgards. Those are usually pretty good value and they sound p good.

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[harsh heron]

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[harsh heron]

I was thinking like $100 on a zen air Dac and mpm1000u 😭

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[tacit barn]

Dt 880 - 770 - 990? Idk

I was looking at all pro versions

And why is the 880 more expensive than 990 how does that work

[jagged kiln]

best headset under 30$

?

[tacit barn]

At that point just get apple earbuds

The wired ones

[jagged kiln]

wtf no

[tacit barn]

Then don’t get any

[white gate]

It's not quite that simple unfortunately.
What I mean is that with something like a square wave or single impulse, all the preceding samples can be 0, but you'll have pre-ringing.

See here for instance, all samples are 0/digital silence except for 1. And yet the waveform itself shows oscillation before/after, because a square wave and/or a single impulse is an illegal/impossible signal. And so when properly reconstructed you have this effect

[hollow lynx]

oh yeah

but my threshold is fairly high, i'll need an opamp to trigger it

[white gate]

Yeah as long as your threshold is sufficiently high that's fine. Though again then there's the point of not needing to use a square wave anyway. Any signal is fine.

I typically just use a sine or noise for ease when testing DUT latency

[hollow lynx]

i'll have an opamp, hardware highpass and mosfet to measure

yeah but the thing is i'm measuring audio+input latency

input latency is basically non-noticeable at 1000Hz

compared to the average like 50ms of audio latency

and so what it does is, it presents itself as a keyboard, and presses a key whenever the signal is high

so the software on the computer can do all the math and stuff

[warm scarab]

you can get in ears like salnote zeroes

[unique wind]

headsets under $30 are going to have fast food headset sound quality but IEMs like Klaus recommended will be decent

[candid cosmos]

Moondrop chu f. E.

[tacit barn]

https://a.co/d/g8mD4Mp

My final decision will be these

[warm scarab]

nice choice

[tacit barn]

Thank for halp

Limited edition looks nice

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[warm scarab]

its more expensive for being a different color generally

your choice

[harsh heron]

None of the above

[tacit barn]

Still the same $160

[lean grove]

He's weirdly a mod

[orchid trellis]

$75 at Goodwill this morning

[jagged kiln]

i saw the exact one wtf

[orchid trellis]

1962 Magnavox Astro-Sonic missing the turntable but

I picked this up in northern Indy near Benttree Circle

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[orchid trellis]

I think this is a set of RCA plugs for a reel to reel tape thing. Wondering if I could get an adapter to 3.5mm so I could use my walkman as input

[lean grove]

Considering how bad ltt is with audio, very. It's like finding out that Gordon Ramsey is a regional manager at Taco Bell in his spare time.

[orchid trellis]

So looking at some product literature over at Archive.org this radio is completely solid state, no tubes at all! In 1962 you could definitely get more powerful consoles but the odds of them making it to 2023 without big maintenance seems really low

$695($6,800 today) in 1962 was a LOT of money to ask for only 160 watts of output

[warm scarab]

160 watts at what?

[orchid trellis]

it doesn't say

[warm scarab]

lmao nice

[orchid trellis]

Also I was wrong it's 120 watts

[warm scarab]

specs: 120 watts at some point

[lean grove]

I think that's how much power it consumes

[warm scarab]

eventually

[lean grove]

Not how much it puts out

[warm scarab]

power draw should be relative to the output no

not static

[lean grove]

Unless it's class A

[orchid trellis]

It's got two 15" speakers so I assumed that was output lol

[lean grove]

Would also be a useful spec for just knowing max power consumption yeah

1962, would not be too far fetched that it's probably class A

[warm scarab]

why

[orchid trellis]

Do y'all know if I can use that RCA set on the back for 3.5 input? It's got two sets of two plugs one labeled Play and one Stop

[warm scarab]

you can just get an rca to 3.5 female

[lean grove]

Because it's a simpler design. It's an old amp.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm scarab]

who asked

[lean grove]

Solid state was still pretty new in the 60s

[orchid trellis]

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38081

this outta do nicely to go to my walkman

[warm scarab]

i hope you got cable lifters for that

[orchid trellis]

What's a cable lifter

[warm scarab]

lots of negative chi in those cables

[orchid trellis]

I could try rainstone for positive vibes? And some incense and prayers to my ancestors

[warm scarab]

could work out, make sure the incense is purified

[orchid trellis]

only the best for my ghosts

[elder thistle]

so:

after the discovery of the mc450, I have been trying 3 different kinds of headphones (studio, audiophile, and gaming headset) for a few months now and getting all the popular competitors up to around $200, as to be very careful about what I say about these headphones in the big review

and that also includes shipping them out to people to gather their perspectives

for more than a month I've been solely focused on the gaming aspect. I can only give it unusually high marks based on my experiences with it in games and zero other gamers having a perspective on it. and I've been asking in pc gaming and game-specific servers for more than a month to volunteer to have me ship them these to try, with actually zero volunteers no matter what I try

so in the absence of touring these, what headphones that I don't have do you guys think would be the most competitive and relevant for gamers?

senn. hd6xx (I have the hd600)
beyerdynamic dt700 pro x
beyerdynamic dt880 600 ohm ( have dt770 80 ohm and dt990 250 ohm)
drop+senn pc37x or pc38x (I have the hd560s)
some kind of steelseries arctis nova wired headset
a planar of some kind that's an upgrade over the he400se
other

[warm scarab]

k612

not most relevant but

afaik it also has good imaging

never heard it for myself so I haven't recommended it much

[elder thistle]

hmm...

alright I'll consider that one too yes

I had the k701 and 702 in the past, thought they were pretty darn good for the price

[warm scarab]

akg is an odd company

[lean grove]

Hole crap when did the 612 get so expensive

It's like $200

[elder thistle]

wat

oh on amazon yeah

I'll be trying to obtain things as used or for parts - soldering issue via ebay

at least most of the time

scared to do that with the hd6xx because earpads

and the pc37x is $60 refurbished on amazon

wait no now it's $75

no

another valid approach here is to find a headset that's a lot cheaper than the $190 cost of mc450+vmoda boompro

and if the utility is fierce enough at half the price to make the mc450 seem wasteful

but that is a lot of additional subjective judgement

simpler when prices are similar

the main things (I think) these are bringing to the table are high instrument separation and complete imaging that also gets along with most games

a competitor against them could be a lot stronger in other aspects of the sound that I either didn't realize were valuable to others for gaming

or it could fight the mc450's strengths head-on

hd600 is probably a good example of the former

honestly not that far off in the latter either

[unique wind]

hd600 demolishes those mackies

[lean grove]

When are you getting your hd600s Michael

[unique wind]

i already own 10 pairs wym

[lean grove]

30 blob imaging

[unique wind]

i would most likely enjoy hd6xx/600 if it could handle harman bass at higher volume

it has correct treble

[elder thistle]

you've tried the mc450??

[unique wind]

nope

[elder thistle]

well they're different

hd600 is "the headphone" yes?

well like I implied, the instrument separation and imaging was a little higher for me on the mc450

the frequency response is definitely worse. slightly less bass, forward+bumpy high mids, forwarder+bumpier treble

in terms of faithfulness to real instruments, hd600 wins regardless of how I eq the mc450

hd600 slightly wider. and once clamp force was adjusted, more comfortable

[sturdy geyser]

@elder thistle

I got the blue yeti for a bit

[unique wind]

i think this is because the upper treble is abnormally elevated

[sturdy geyser]

is it valid?

[elder thistle]

the blue yeti? still pretty nice from the recordings I've heard

[elder thistle]

no, even when tuned neutral or dim, it's just crazy

that's the one thing I haven't seen contested by a single person, the instrument separation

[sturdy geyser]

yeah but it doesn’t have a shock absorber

should I have the uh

what’s that one thing called

On the back

I forgot what it is

[elder thistle]

shock mount?

[sturdy geyser]

yeah that and the other thing

[elder thistle]

pop filter?

[sturdy geyser]

The gain

should I have it down or up?

[elder thistle]

oh

[sturdy geyser]

I have it down fully if it’s up it picks up every single thing that I touch

[elder thistle]

the idea is to have the mic about a foot away from your mouth and having the capsule point towards it, however that's set up

and have it isolated from the table yes, with a shockmount or really good isolation pads

[sturdy geyser]

It’s currently just sitting on my mat I don’t have anything

[sturdy geyser]

that’s what I was doing

[elder thistle]

oh

also do you have the polar pattern options?

[sturdy geyser]

yeah all of them

[elder thistle]

set it to cardioid or hypercardioid if those are options

[sturdy geyser]

I’m on cardioid

[sturdy geyser]

I don’t think there’s hyper

[elder thistle]

that's fine

uhh

[sturdy geyser]

Also I don’t own it I just have it as a test to see if it’s convenient for me to have a mic or headset

[elder thistle]

well for voice chat I'd talk into audacity and adjust the gain until you speaking as loud as you normally would doesn't really exceed half the headroom

oh ok

[sturdy geyser]

could you see if the JBL quantum stream is decent?

that’s one of the options that I have

[elder thistle]

uh I'll find some demos for it

never heard of a microphone like that having 14mm electrets

unusual

[sturdy geyser]

What’s weird about it

[elder thistle]

usually microphones like this are using a normal condenser capsule, which is like 25-40mm or so. these are using electrets, which are the kind of microphone capsule found in headsets. they're a little different mechanically but they still work similar to a conventional condenser microphone. electrets are omnidirectional by nature

they're also usually small, below 10mm

[sturdy geyser]

razer also uses the same thing

Siren mini

[elder thistle]

this isn't necessarily a bad thing though. there are electret mics that kinda just shred a lot of condenser mics and are used in hollywood and public speakers or comedians in new york and such

like they can be very good

this is the most useful sound demo I found so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVYU4_cCYw

the other ones were people talking several feet away and only in omnidirectional mode

[sturdy geyser]

Problem is

I have very limited options

cause I have a gift card in this store

[elder thistle]

oh I see

[sturdy geyser]

And this store legit has nothing good

it’s 64€ but u add

[elder thistle]

demo is around 3:38

it's certainly got some body / bass to it

huh.

not bad at all imo

[sturdy geyser]

I think it’s pretty good for the price especially

[elder thistle]

I've heard stuff I thought was nicer for that price, but not by a lot

that mic is at least competitive

[sturdy geyser]

i also have options like the

Blue ice or what was it

The siren x also

[elder thistle]

this part of this demo is pretty comparable in terms of setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba8GN_aYnyU&t=349

not the same kind of voice though, he's more high pitched

personally I kinda like the jbl better with it's touch of saturation/distortion it had going on

that was more or less the logic I used when deciding on the AT2020

seiren x probably sounds more normal though

[sturdy geyser]

Than which one

[elder thistle]

than the jbl

[sturdy geyser]

It’s also 40 more

[elder thistle]

ouch

well what matters is which one you think sounds nicer

[sturdy geyser]

The snowball blue ice is a good budget option or that’s what I saw at least

[elder thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmRZdGbJYQ

eh...

treble's kinda deepfried

[sturdy geyser]

It isn’t the best for sure

[sturdy geyser]

also it has a really good EQ tuner

[elder thistle]

yes

I like it when hardware ships with good software

[sturdy geyser]

Really like the JBL personally

looks good also

[elder thistle]

their app probably isn't as useful as proper adjustments in a music production program, but I think the point is that most people don't want to pay for and learn to use something like that

[sturdy geyser]

Not like I’m gonna be producing music on it

[elder thistle]

by providing a solid app like that, they save streamers and gamers from all that work while retaining pretty optimized sound

yeah

[sturdy geyser]

The yeti is so heavy

[elder thistle]

lmao

yeah big chungus microphone

normally mics are like 4 or 5 inches long and 2 inches diameter

condenser mics

[elder thistle]

also behold https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MsLbtLvmN0O-cpRD3ZnKdAoF1GRULVym3iQt1DCeZtQ/edit?usp=sharing

and if you wish, name a cool song

[sturdy geyser]

I have a bad music taste

[elder thistle]

I'm attempting to form a sound demo of hd600 vs mc450

and probably hd560s

all with eq and all without eq

[sturdy geyser]

@elder thistle

Are u able to hear yourself?

[elder thistle]

...?

[sturdy geyser]

like

do u hear yourself talk on the headset

sound quality isn’t that different from my headset mic

maybe I’m using it wrong

just doesn’t feel comfortable not hearing myself

[elder thistle]

wait which headset am I using, and which mic are you using?

[warm scarab]

just get a seiren mini bro

better than the jbl

[sturdy geyser]

it doesn’t have a mute button

[warm scarab]

okay and

make one with a macro

[sturdy geyser]

I want to mute myself

[sturdy geyser]

I’m only buying a pc in 5 months so

[warm scarab]

so what will you do with the mic in meanwhile

[sturdy geyser]

Use it on my ps?

like I currently am

[warm scarab]

what store do you have a gift coupon for

[sturdy geyser]

it’s not American

[warm scarab]

okay

so what store do you have a gift coupon for?

[sturdy geyser]

A store that u have never heard about

I can show u options

[warm scarab]

yeah I am listening

which store is it

[warm scarab]

can you send me the link

[sturdy geyser]

it’s not in English how are u gonna understand

okay wait

[warm scarab]

I can translate websites man its 2023

wait

2024 now

[sturdy geyser]

https://www.technorama.lt/vaizdo-ir-garso-technika/mikrofonai/

@warm scarab

[warm scarab]

ty

get the fifine t669

ez

[sturdy geyser]

Why

[warm scarab]

or elgato wave 3

[warm scarab]

because it sounds good?

idk what do you want in a mic?

[sturdy geyser]

I’m not that rich

[warm scarab]

well t669 it is

[sturdy geyser]

Good audio quality and a mute button 😫

[warm scarab]

well t669 has both

[sturdy geyser]

so does jbl

[warm scarab]

only issue is it's gain is digital so it can clip

but eh, doesn't really matter much

not for your case at least

[sturdy geyser]

tell me why

[warm scarab]

yeah but it sounds muted af

[sturdy geyser]

then just turn the audio up

[warm scarab]

either that or the guy in the question has a lowpass filter on his voice

[warm scarab]

muted man

not low in volume

high frequencies are muted

also we hang around here to advise good products man, if you want to buy the jbl go do it

we wont give you purchase validation if that is what you want

[sturdy geyser]

no man I’m searching for best

I just wanna know what’s best

[lean grove]

.

[lean grove]

.

Pick one

[warm scarab]

well in that selection you sent

t669 and wave 3

btw I just saw the seiren emote

it probably sounds bad but

ngl sort of a neat gimmick

would probably become annoying shortly after you realize the light disturbs your eye but still

looks sort of neat

[sturdy geyser]

what’s the t669 so good in that eve everyone buys them?

[warm scarab]

cheap and sound alright, nothing much

[fallow tide]

Plugged my rca audio connector into my cd player then fed it into a usb c adapator into my pc. I can barely hear the audio, mostly can hear static. Any fix?

[lean grove]

Turn the volume up?

[fallow tide]

I'm at max volume.

[lean grove]

Send a picture of the back of the CD player

[lean grove]

Uhh

[warm scarab]

was probably meant to be fed into an amplifier first

[lean grove]

Where are you expecting audio to come out of?

[warm scarab]

I think he plugged the rca output into a usb c adapter to get it as mic audio

on his pc

[fallow tide]

Wonder if I could virtual amp it then?

[warm scarab]

unreasonable amounts of static generally hints at double amping

but low volume hints at not enough amping

so I don't know what is wrong lmao

A) Like most older cd players what you meant is supposed to be plugged into an amplifier then into whatever output device
B) What you have already has some sort of amp and you are amping it again with your mic input which causes issues

these are the 2 causes I suspect, may not be correct

also how are you routing the audio from your usb c adapter to your headphones?

[fallow tide]

Here

[warm scarab]

super odd

I would suspect something is malfunctioning

with that much static amping it wouldn't be smart

[fallow tide]

Put it into a different mic output now its super loud with no static.

The usbc device must me a one way amp maybe?

Holy shit I fixed it.

Put it through a logitech usb headphone jack and lowered it.

Sounds normal now.

[warm scarab]

oh you were boosting your audio

[fallow tide]

It's a 110 disc player if anyone was wondering.

[lean grove]

Do you have 110 discs

[fallow tide]

Sadly not yet, I have a shitload still though.

[molten lotus]

I pulled the trigger on Focal Elex. Hopefully this is my endgame pair.

[lean grove]

You're doomed

Hd6X0 was the endgame

[unique wind]

its so over

[sinful wasp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[thick lake]

hey! what is people's go to headphones for like 150cad? that's 115 usd roughly

[lean grove]

i would think the akg k361 or 371

[haughty girder]

k361

but you can get a used k612 for that price

[lean grove]

used to be able to have a new one for that price

[fallow tide]

Windows95

[haughty girder]

Canadian dollars?

no

[lean grove]

they were like 120 usd last i checked

like a few months ago

[haughty girder]

yea

that's a lot more than 150cad lmao

oh wait that's 160

[lean grove]

115 usd roughtly

[haughty girder]

I remember seeing it on thomann

120usd

but that was like two years ago

[cloud phoenix]

hey guys, not sure if this is the right channel to ask this in but, I'm playing spiderman 2 with my headphones connected to my PS5 controller and for some reason some sounds sound way worse than they were when I had my headphones connected to my monitor. Why could this be?

[tepid torrent]

controller audio probably sucks way more

[cloud phoenix]

Some sounds coming out of the monitor sound miles better for some reason

[tepid torrent]

same answer

[cloud phoenix]

oh crap

sorry i didnt read your message properly!

[tepid torrent]

not that the headphone out on a monitor is likely to sound good

[cloud phoenix]

there's no audio output on the ps5, so where do I plug my headphones in besides the controller?

[cloud phoenix]

do ya reckon a usb-c to aux adapter would work on the PS5?

and would that be a good solution?

[tepid torrent]

like a apple dongle

yes

[cloud phoenix]

well maybe not an apple dongle but something similar yes

[tepid torrent]

I mean apple dongle is pretty good for what it is

solid dac

[cloud phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/aw/d/B082WG5VTK/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&aaxitk=058019f09ab19776da1ccabdf72a698c&hsa_cr_id=0&qid=1704256798&sr=1-1-ac08f2b1-eb5b-4f1a-aa64-9e8f448c33ed&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_sccd_asin_0_title&pd_rd_w=8yO51&content-id=amzn1.sym.b5d87d42-b322-4b0a-babb-871bf516a134%3Aamzn1.sym.b5d87d42-b322-4b0a-babb-871bf516a134&pf_rd_p=b5d87d42-b322-4b0a-babb-871bf516a134&pf_rd_r=11A6AQXP5V6PBQ53BMH5&pd_rd_wg=wx9Mv&pd_rd_r=8ae28b5b-8726-45cc-bf15-fcdf94eddff

what about this one?

[cloud phoenix]

Ugreen is alright aren't they?

[tepid torrent]

not many impressions/people with experience on this

Id say the usbc apple dongle is a safer choice

[lean grove]

i swear they were lower

[haughty girder]

Thomann was the way to go for K612

Amazon was always high

rip

139 now

K701 is a good price, though I wouldn't recommend it if you haven't tried similar headphones

it's a little more fatiguing and not as "nice" to listen to

[lean grove]

+removable cable

[haughty girder]

K701 doesn't have removable

that was added with the K702 and 7xx

[lean grove]

nevermidn then

[cloud phoenix]

bad news, just bought the adapter and tested it, nothing