audio-tech

[haughty girder]

not necessarily

it depends on your mic technique

[shadow stag]

oh

[haughty girder]

And space

some mics need a sound treated space

[elder falcon]

I've seen some nice arms and ill look at that mic

[shadow stag]

well it was about comparing condenser mics

anyways im better off with a dynamic one it seems

[haughty girder]

why specifically condenser

[shadow stag]

idk, its what people have more experience with?

dont worry about it

[haughty girder]

ok so if you're going usb, same recc from me (atr2100x)

if XLR then it becomes more complicated, I'd recommend starting out with an xm8500 for mic

as for interface to connect to your PC... the cheapest one I'd actually recommend is the Arturia minifuse 1

but you can get away with M audio m track solo

[shadow stag]

im finding a cad u1 dynamic mic for cheaper than your recommendation

[glossy pelican]

Okay I don’t really know what I’m talking about here but I’m looking for a headset with noise cancellation and transparency like what air pods and beats use

[haughty girder]

CAD u1 is actually kinda... bad

[glossy pelican]

And I just need a recommendation on a decent choice

[shadow stag]

oh okay

[haughty girder]

xm8500 is basically the best mic up to about 100 bucks

[haughty girder]

OH uh they don't exist

[shadow stag]

and atr2100x for cheap usb mics? nothing under 100$ that sounds good?

[glossy pelican]

Gooood to know 😂

[haughty girder]

anc and transparency modes are normally limited to bt headphones which only the Maxwell is decent for gaming

which doesn't have either iirc

[haughty girder]

For usb mics atr2100x, q2u are both solid

[glossy pelican]

So do you think it would work to use a beats product with my pc?

[haughty girder]

Yes

[shadow stag]

expensive tho

beats tax

[haughty girder]

but the most important thing is they need a mic arm

[glossy pelican]

Okay thank you for your help

[shadow stag]

oof

[haughty girder]

with any mic really, get it as close to your mouth as you can

[shadow stag]

hand holding does well too?

[haughty girder]

handheld is just a different form factor

[shadow stag]

well i mean, dynamic microphones have the ability of holding them with your hand

right?

[haughty girder]

No

dynamic is what kind of capsule it uses

Handheld has both dynamic and condenser mics too

[shadow stag]

right, but im seeing that dynamic mics bodies have a shape designed for hand holding

[haughty girder]

e835 is dynamic but my fav mic the e865 is condenser

[haughty girder]

dynamics also come in the shape of "broadcast" style mics

[shadow stag]

yeah thats what i mean

[haughty girder]

which many podcasts use like the wan show

[shadow stag]

i thought they use condenser mics?

[haughty girder]

nope

[shadow stag]

many people for streaming use condenser mics apparently too?

[haughty girder]

this is the mic the wan show uses

[shadow stag]

ah i see

[haughty girder]

that's a dynamic

[shadow stag]

got it

[haughty girder]

this is also a dynamic

but this is condenser

and this is condenser

[shadow stag]

condenser mics are typically in the latter shape

[haughty girder]

For vocal related work yes

[shadow stag]

as far as i've seen

[haughty girder]

these are all condensers too

[shadow stag]

how about a neutral mic?

[haughty girder]

Neutral?

wdym

[shadow stag]

as in flat

[haughty girder]

oh

[shadow stag]

in the sound profile

[haughty girder]

frequency response*

Uh

[shadow stag]

yeah that sorry

[haughty girder]

It's based on the mic itself

[shadow stag]

also anything that can do 30hz or lower?

[haughty girder]

at 30hz then you'll probably be looking for a condenser

most dynamics have rolloff at a certain frequency

[shadow stag]

i guess i should go for a condenser

[haughty girder]

sure

[shadow stag]

my apartment is not quiet by any means

it has a fridge and computers running

its a single room

[haughty girder]

I mean the whole thing about dynamics being better at noise rejection is actually mainly down to them being less sensitive overall

so the human instinct is to move them closer

if a condenser was moved closer and the volume turned down, it would be equally as good as a dynamic in rejecting noise

[shadow stag]

any idea about a high pitched noise coming through a line in coming from a casio ctk-601 output?

[haughty girder]

high pitched?

Could be a lot of things

[shadow stag]

its like A5 and quiet

and the audio balance isnt centered unfortunately

the pan is set to 0

its a old keyboard i have that has a interesting sound

[haughty girder]

Hmmm

maybe a ground loop

try touching something metal on the keyboard while listening to it

[warm scarab]

move cables away from all other cables and devices

[haughty girder]

I doubt it's interference

[shadow stag]

not feasible in my case

my motherboard audio connectors are gold plated and the audio chipset is on a dedicated section of the motherboard

[warm scarab]

why not

[warm scarab]

lol

[haughty girder]

Interference is rarely a consistent pitch

[shadow stag]

maybe its the keyboard itself?

[haughty girder]

It might be

[shadow stag]

it appears when its turned on

[haughty girder]

it's old right

[shadow stag]

yeah

[haughty girder]

Try the thing I said

touch something metal on it while it's on

[shadow stag]

its a 1998 keyboard bought in 2004

i think i tried and it doesnt change anything

[haughty girder]

maybe some filter caps are dead

I'm not too sure

[shadow stag]

i use hearing aids so my ear is not good

[haughty girder]

Oh

[shadow stag]

especially since i use hearing aids with noise cancellation and stuff

i spotted this by looking at the spectogram and waveform in the computer

hey, suggestions about a cheap good mixer for practicing no-mixer experimental stuff?

@haughty girder ^ sorry for ping

[haughty girder]

Uhhh

what kind of mixer

what's the use case

like are you trying to connect to a pc or mix multiple channels together

[shadow stag]

i just said the use case

i would use it for mixing stuff outputting to pc

or maybe i should output it to speakers and pc

[shadow stag]

no-input technique, a experimental thing that consists in feeding itself

[shadow stag]

both

[haughty girder]

Uhm

I actually don't know

[shadow stag]

its fine

[haughty girder]

I use a couple Yamaha TF and Behringer X airs for gig work

but for a home use mixer... the only one comes to mind is the Yamaha MG XU

The one I use was like 80 bucks off aliexpress and really noisy so I don't recc it

[shadow stag]

oop

[haughty girder]

MG XU is also ancient and I don't know if there's better for the cost now

[shadow stag]

its not as cheap either

[haughty girder]

yea

for outdoor stuff I use this

[shadow stag]

oh interesting

what kind of connector is it?

[haughty girder]

Connector?

[shadow stag]

the ports for the channels

[haughty girder]

XLR + TS Combo jacks

[shadow stag]

ah i see

[haughty girder]

Outputs are XLR with a pair of Line out

yea so past that I won't be able to help

[shadow stag]

its ok, i appreciate your input

[haughty girder]

I'd perhaps recommend asking a diff server for recording devices advice

it's a really niche topic here and I'm one of the few people who talks about this stuff here

Podcastage might be able to help

[shadow stag]

audio interface, worth it?

something like focursite solo?

[haughty girder]

If you get an xlr mic you'll need it

Focusrite solo is meh

Low output impedance on its headphone out yes but the drivers are kinda bad for the price

[shadow stag]

oh damn, thanks for the heads up

[haughty girder]

Arturia minifuse 1, UAD Volt 1 are both better if you don't need two inputs

and if you do, I'd honestly recommend saving a bit for the Audient Evo 4

[shadow stag]

two inputs are a nice to have, and also monitoring/loopback

[haughty girder]

what headphones are you using for monitoring

loopback I assume you'll do in software?

[shadow stag]

monitors not headphones

[haughty girder]

ok good

[shadow stag]

ah okay

again, i use hearing aids so i cant wear headphones

[haughty girder]

that's fine then, most interfaces have a crap headphone output

the ones I listed have decent line out for monitors though

[shadow stag]

know small desktop monitors that are good for a low budget?

i'll need a subwoofer apparently

[haughty girder]

Edifiers are generally safe

Yea if you're going sub 40hz ish you'll need a sub

unfortunately those aren't cheap if you want to be able to control your crossover

[shadow stag]

damn

good to know

[haughty girder]

k I gtg so uh

good luck

[shadow stag]

i have Genius SP-U150X desktop speakers

[shadow stag]

take care, thanks

[modest cave]

I just got some new headphones, what do you guys think?

[tepid torrent]

swag

[steel escarp]

Tried them, returned them in 30 minutes after comparing to dt880

[lean grove]

read: i had the opportunity to try them for an extended period of time but im not the type of person to approach things with excitement or an open state of mind so i didnt even give myself the opportunity to enjoy them

dino nuggies are good enough for me

[steel escarp]

DT880 is better, why would I try to enjoy something inferior

[lean grove]

because you have worms in your brain and the 650 would have cured them

they whisper into your ear and tell you to eat mulch and rotten food

[steel escarp]

I did enjoy the 650

But dt880 beats it hard

[lean grove]

until the worms realized they were getting kicked out

[steel escarp]

Meanwhile violectric goes bzzzz

When using mobile data and hovering my headphone cable above my phone

And every once in a while it emits some random signals to check if I am using 4g which also causes buzzing

[lean grove]

the worms spoke to grey in unison "the 650 is overrated. they're not as good as everyone says. they're all brainwashed. except you..." they knew they could manipulate him. he took a slurp of his slurm shake.

"and think of the 880s. you've sunk so much time and effort into modding them. theres no way you could have been wrong for all that time..." they knew they had him.

"they extend completely linearly. all those measurements are a lie. the 880 will be your salvation"

https://tenor.com/view/vinesauce-meat-worm-earthworm-squish-gif-21201766

[steel escarp]

HD650 is all front stage, no rear activity

[lean grove]

i'll show you rear activity...

[steel escarp]

Woah

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-twerk-yellow-ass-thang-gif-18983570

[steel escarp]

Calm down Nils

The DT880 just has more stage and better treble if you eq the 6k peak down

[lean grove]

"the 650 have too strong of a center image. i couldn't tolerate that. i like it when the music comes from behind me. the worms get a better acoustic center that way"

[steel escarp]

Bro

[lean grove]

"what worms?" nils asked, concerningly.

grey shut his mouth. he had said too much

[steel escarp]

Guitar snares just disappeared

Compared to on dt880

I am upgrading to sus soon likely

[tepid torrent]

imagine not listening to nils

[steel escarp]

Tho he1000 stealth bass will outperform sus

[tepid torrent]

and listening to the worms instead

[lean grove]

thats good. you have a track record of spending money on very expensive things and being very happy with them

[steel escarp]

I am very happy with he1000 stealth

[lean grove]

shoulda bought the chord dave

[steel escarp]

Bro

The 300 euro zen dac signature v2 is endgame

Chord Qutest wasn't even better at 1500

[tepid torrent]

chord stuff is mid lol

mojo only passable one

[lean grove]

dacs dont start getting good until you spend at least $6000

anything before that is just a dongle in a cool chassis

[tepid torrent]

even vmv a1?

[lean grove]

that is an amplifier

[tepid torrent]

wait

what was the dac

that stacks wit it

[lean grove]

d1

also

/s

[tepid torrent]

nils used /s?

[steel escarp]

Even holo may?

[tepid torrent]

especially holo may

[lean grove]

low-fi

a childs toy.

merely a financial obstical

despite it being a pittance, that is

[steel escarp]

Redditor and 6xx shiller exposed

Any opinion instantly invalidated

@tepid torrent show us your low-fi collection

[steel escarp]

Endgame

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/flippingfunnyguys-gif-21870678

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-card-reverse-gif-15490757

[tepid torrent]

shit on

[steel escarp]

Lofi

[tepid torrent]

i ate it

[lean grove]

that table cloth looks weirdly like a display table and a headphone convention

[steel escarp]

I am still at low-fi too

[tepid torrent]

i wonder why

heres a clue

[lean grove]

i didnt know in and out had susvaras

[tepid torrent]

secret menu

[steel escarp]

Bro you are making me crave a 2AM snack

Why do this to me

[tepid torrent]

get real

[lean grove]

heli you have unwittingly been implicit in causing grey to crave br*tish food.

another pour soul condemned

[tepid torrent]

better than worms

[lean grove]

where do you think the worms came from

[steel escarp]

P modded?

[tepid torrent]

?

headband modded yes

[lean grove]

he's asking if you pissed on them

[tepid torrent]

capra strap

[steel escarp]

Who was the guy who wrote a P on a hd580 driver

[tepid torrent]

no im not popcrn

[steel escarp]

Wait you are not

[tepid torrent]

that shit was broken too

no way it worked right

[steel escarp]

Wait you are not popcrn

[lean grove]

catinabox is the popcrn alt

[steel escarp]

This whole time I thought he was

[tepid torrent]

Nils what speakers you on

[lean grove]

phasetech pc1.5. they're kinda shidd nearfield so im probably gonna move to ascend luna's

well, shidd at my current position. i need smaller speakers

[steel escarp]

Imagine using speakers and being forced into a single or stacked monitor setup

[lean grove]

imagine having screens so tiny you need multiple monitors to display all your content

[tepid torrent]

I need app2

want to sell 650 for something more convenient

nils buy my 650

180 usd fast deal

[unique wind]

ill give you $50

[steel escarp]

Imagine not being able to use more than 1 full-screen application

[lean grove]

why would you need to

just alt tab

[steel escarp]

Nothing hits the same as gaming with a subwoofer tho

[tepid torrent]

use stands bro

[steel escarp]

I had stands

But double monitor completely messed with directionally

This is an old picture

Subwoofer under the desk was also not good

No matter how I positioned them I couldn't fix the 100-150Hz void

Speakers are so much work

[lean grove]

why is your subwoofer going up to 150hz

[haughty girder]

wait yea wth

those monitors should do down to 50hz just fine

40, even

[white rampart]

How good are Creative T100 speakers?

[lean grove]

they look okay.

nothing stands out as bad

maybe the only thing is that they offer a lot of functionality, like a remote, optical input, and some other weird stuff so my gut says they're probably not the best value

pebbles might be better to look at?

[white rampart]

I have the T100. I like how optical input audio has no delays or anything like that

It's light speed.

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/right-yeah-right-yeah-oh-yeah-ohh-gif-14553729619893238098

most of the delay is gonna be coming from the dac inside.

copper vs optical will not be contributing any latency unless you plan on hooking up these speakers to a computer thats a few hundred miles away

[white rampart]

My speakers are literally a forearm's length away from my pc

Well, the right speaker that has the optical input.

[lean grove]

so the speed of light is really not a limiting factor here

[white rampart]

Also, gold plated Toslink connectors are a literal scam.

[lean grove]

what makes you say that

[white rampart]

Well, what do those cables use to transmit sound?

[lean grove]

audio file

[white rampart]

No no, what travels through the cable?

Light, right?

[haughty girder]

Gold plated connectors are never a scam

[lean grove]

mtusik

myusik

[haughty girder]

with toslink it doesn't matter but for most other connectors gold plating is always a good thing

the metal with highest electrical conductivity that doesn't oxidize

[white rampart]

Optical audio cables use light, not electric currents. Gold plating won't do anything to improve the sound. You're basically paying extra for a prettier cable. And even then, when it's plugged in, you can't even see it.

[haughty girder]

but muyisk

[lean grove]

thank god you saved me from overspending $5 on an optical cable. i can safely go back to my $200 usb cable

[haughty girder]

oh in this case... optical actually will have higher latency than copper

but the difference is negligible (1ms, at most)

the main issue with optical is jitter that can be caused by really bad cables

you have to remember that the signal needs to be converted twice

but it's pretty much standard fixed function hardware so it's not like it matters

[broken nebula]

Just got a 5.1 system and set up a home theatre room. Any random interesting movies/games to test it outside of like the usual list of popular blockbusters you find when googling such a question?

[white rampart]

https://youtu.be/QYU8zydUqD8?si=57iMAJ-pRhw4_Pbj
I test all my audio stuff with this video.

Also, I heard that the Blue Yeti is disliked, and that it "sucks" buy why?

[steel escarp]

its not

and my 2 monitors can go down to 40Hz

I had the crossover rather high tho

up to 110Hz I think

[steel escarp]

I think the he1000 stealth became a bit less sibilant because of the pads compressing inwards

[rose jacinth]

Is the Rode Procaster Good

[hazy heath]

can anyone recomend good gaming headset for under 100$

was thinking of these but im not sure

[unique wind]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-sennheiser-pc37x-gaming-headset?

[lean grove]

You might have better luck asking in the podcastage server. They actually know a lot about mics.

[shadow stag]

oh btw, i dont really have a different server suited for audio stuff where i can ask in, and this discord account is full on servers

[broken nebula]

Open back might be a minor conern if you don't want any noise getting out for the people near you.

[lean grove]

Very minor concern.

It's not a problem unless you're listening beyond loudly

[warm scarab]

how

[shadow stag]

what

[broken nebula]

Think they didn't know there's a server limit, or are just surprised you managed to hit it.

(100 servers is the limit, or 200 with nitro)

[elder thistle]

doesn't usually have to be that loud to be a problem

but also depends on how you define problem

bad idea for realtime monitoring

I've tried

[steel escarp]

HE1000 Stealth is so open it's very loud outside

Hifiman Edition XS has it a bit less

[narrow saffron]

i had those, they're not very good

is the se v7 a good mic?

[merry marten]

Hello im looking to upgrade from Mackie CR3s and I am kind of lost. I was thinking of getting a pair of either the yamaha hs7/hs8 or a pair of jbl 530. They would be used in small room connected to a computer. Which ones would be the better route for long-term use?

[lean grove]

Long term get the 530 absolutely. They're passive so they don't have any electronics that will fail and as long as you don't drop them or damage them they should last a very long time.

You will need an amp for them tho.

[merry marten]

I wouldn't mind getting an amp though I dont know alot about them, is there one you'd recommend, i had planned on pairing the 530s with the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen USB Audio Interface

[lean grove]

Fosi za3 is the latest hotness right now.

Or fosi V3

[merry marten]

Ok, thanks for taking the time to help im going to research the amps you recommend and go from there

[hazy heath]

Like wdym

I’m more looking for just audio idc about the mic

[lean grove]

What's wrong with the pc37x

[hazy heath]

I HAVE 100 dollars but I am more interested in spending 60-70

Maybe 80 if it’s needed

[lean grove]

Gotcha. Well. Gl.

[fresh niche]

What are people's thoughts on these? https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-Powered-Monitor-Speakers-Near-Field/dp/B09FXG9BLR/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?

[shadow stag]

would a behringer c1u do any good?

[haughty girder]

IMO one of the best handheld mics you can get at 100 bucks

I'd honestly recommend it for anyone looking for a handheld regardless of budget

[modest cave]

I’m trying to find a good mic for around $100. I will use it for voice and a bit of recording my sax.

Does anyone have a good recommendation. My interface has phantom power.

I was looking at the behringer B1 but I’m open to anything

[fading bear]

If you have phantom power, just make sure it will not need a cloud lifter or something else in order to use the phantom power, some mics will.

[haughty girder]

what

Void maybe don't talk if you're not sure what you're saying

[haughty girder]

is your room sound treated

[modest cave]

No, its my bedroom

[haughty girder]

does it echo at all

[modest cave]

Not much

[haughty girder]

ok since you mentioned sax, I assume you want some more fine details?

[modest cave]

yes

[hybrid turret]

anyone have an audio interface recommendation?

i'm trying to have one mic connected and another input for guitar

right now looking at the scarlet interface solo

would like some opinions from people who know their stuff though

[sharp socket]

corsair refurbished for 40 on amazon

[lean grove]

motu m2 is better than the scarlet solo by a country mile

[haughty girder]

At about 100 bucks the options are kinda limited, IMO the top choices would be the Neat King bee (first generation > second, used), Blue Ember (mainly cause it's cheap and has a "modern" U shaped tone to it. Everything else is kinda the same-ish across the board

[haughty girder]

What's your budget

if you can get a Motu M2 that's your best bet

if your budget isn't there, then Arturia Minifuse 2 is the next best option

then the Audient evo 4

[modest cave]

I will look into those, thanks.

[haughty girder]

yep

Oh do remember you NEED a mic arm for all mics

[modest cave]

I have one

[haughty girder]

Ok pog

wait do you currently have a mic right now?

or just the arm

[modest cave]

Mic and arm

[haughty girder]

What mic is it?

[modest cave]

Behringer xm8500

[haughty girder]

oh

That's... a really good mic

do you have a pop filter or foam windscreen on it

[modest cave]

No

[haughty girder]

I'd recommend getting one

foam windscreens mainly

It'll help a lot with plosives

try recording with the XM8500 first, it's a really solid all around mic even at 5x the cost

[modest cave]

What one do you recommend

[haughty girder]

its main weakness is bad plosive rejection and the bass is not exactly detailed, neither which is particularly important

[haughty girder]

Any, really. The cheapest one you can find will do

I used an AT2020 windscreen on it and while it was a little big, it sounded fine

[modest cave]

I was kinda thinking of completely replacing the xm8500 with a better one. Is that a bad idea for my budget?

[haughty girder]

Currently I'd say it's not worth replacing it

What kind of sax do you play?

[modest cave]

Alto and tenor

[haughty girder]

ok so not bari

XM8500 will do fine

the main thing is mic technique

[hybrid turret]

i mean i would like it to be around 100

[haughty girder]

are you in the states?

[hybrid turret]

yeses

[modest cave]

Would upgrading my interface be a good idea. I have the Behringer UM2

[haughty girder]

Oh

yes

actually would be a huge upgrade

[hybrid turret]

also for the mic idk if it matters but i have a c1 from berhinger

[haughty girder]

nah for both of you it's a $100 budget for an interface?

[haughty girder]

do you plan to have two inputs

[modest cave]

I don’t need it

I would like there to be a headphone output though

[haughty girder]

what headphones?

[modest cave]

Sennheiser HD 6XX

[haughty girder]

oh k pog

[modest cave]

Got them for Christmas

[haughty girder]

ye

Arturia minifuse 1 is 99 normally

since it's boxing week you might be able to find a better deal on it

the other interfaces to look out for is UAD Volt 1 and 176 (176 has a built in compressor which is really good for voice)

[hybrid turret]

whats boxing week

[haughty girder]

so Boxing day is the day after Christmas

it's a north america thing I believe

[hybrid turret]

today?

[haughty girder]

yes

[modest cave]

Im pretty sure its British

[haughty girder]

England

[modest cave]

Yes

[haughty girder]

I'm Canadian so it's a pretty big deal yea

xd

I'm not too sure about everywhere else

If not then it's ok

[modest cave]

I’ve only heard it when I lived in England

[haughty girder]

If you're comfortable going refurbished, Audient Evo 4 is 108 on amazon.com

or 130 new

[hybrid turret]

refurb is fine tbh

[civic beacon]

Boxing Day (and the accompanying week) is indeed more of a Commonwealth nation thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day

[hybrid turret]

i dont know why people look down on refurb

[haughty girder]

no some people just prefer their stuff to be completely new

I generally prefer new unless there's a large savings

[modest cave]

Cool

[hybrid turret]

hmmm

like something 150 mark, what would be the best

maybe 150 would be better

idk i might need to buy new headphones too

so not sure how much i should be spending on both

[haughty girder]

Minifuse 2

[modest cave]

Is the volt 1 worth the extra $30 compared to the minifuse

[haughty girder]

Eh, not really

If it's the same price then I'd take the Volt 1

its preamps are a little "smoother" than the more neutered sounding Arturia

but for most people it's not worth the price delta

[modest cave]

So it’s better, just not $30 better

[haughty girder]

yes

and it's only better in a preference way

[hybrid turret]

so audient evo 4 would be best for around like 150<

[modest cave]

I will most likely just get the minifuse then.

Thanks so much

[haughty girder]

remember about the foam windscreen

[modest cave]

yes I will

[haughty girder]

it'll help the xm8500 a lot

kk

[haughty girder]

The main issue with the evo 4 is that it's plastic

[hybrid turret]

what would be one of the best headphones i could get for a decent price?

[haughty girder]

so it can suffer from interference issues

If you can get the Arturia Minifuse 2 that's my biggest rec

built very well and is cheaper than most other 2in2out interfaces

[haughty girder]

what's your budget?

[hybrid turret]

probably around 150 as well

[haughty girder]

if you want a neutral cheap headphone, HD560s

ok yea

Unless you wanna buy off drop.com

then you can get the HD6xx on sale

[hybrid turret]

is drop.com bad?

[haughty girder]

nvm it's not on full sale anymore

[hybrid turret]

i thought it was used for like a kick starter thing

[haughty girder]

nah

drop.com is good

it's pretty much groupbuys made accessible

but they're back at 200

yea my recc would be Arturia Minifuse 2 and HD560s

both are 150 off amazon

[hybrid turret]

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-Over-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B08J9MVB6W/ref=sr_1_2

yeah this one right

how much was it on sale for?

[haughty girder]

150 is correct

[hybrid turret]

what about the beyerdynamics?

are they not as good?

like the dt990 pro or dt 770 pro

[lean grove]

880 is good

those are less

[hybrid turret]

what do these mean?

its just preference right

[lean grove]

kinda not really? 880 is more neutral. better mids, flatter bass. the 990 and 880 are pretty v shape so tehy have a lot of treble and a lot of bass

its the more """fun""" sound signature because it sounds more intense

but once you get used to a neutral sound signature, everything just sounds better

its like the difference between a steak and a sausage.

[hybrid turret]

880 is like a steak?

expensive steak?

better than the 560s?

[haughty girder]

I like 880 over 560s, but it's not as comfortable and fixed cable is easy fix but still bruh

[lean grove]

Neutral sound signatures are like a steak.

Altering it to make music more fun is the sausage

[hybrid turret]

like

tweaking the settings?

alkso tgheres like premium and pro

which one should i get?

[lean grove]

pro clamps harder.

premium clamps less

get 250 ohm if you can

[hybrid turret]

premium would feel better?

https://www.amazon.com/beyerdynamic-Premium-Over-Ear-Stereo-Headphones-smartphone/dp/B07HLPG16R/ref=sr_1_10

[lean grove]

Go for 250 ohm

Premium clamps less. So it can slide off if you lean back but yeah more comfortable

[hybrid turret]

okeyy

also artuira minifuse actually comes witha bleton live lite?

that's w

[haughty girder]

Most decent interfaces do

the ones that don't are either very cheap like the UM2, or they have their own DAWs like presonus studio one and Native instruments Komplete

[modest cave]

What’s a bleton live lite?

[hybrid turret]

just bought the interface

thanks guys :)

[modest cave]

Nvm I googled it

[narrow saffron]

what about for podcast

[haughty girder]

as long as it's on an arm and you get some sort of windscreen/pop filter on it, it's fantastic

[narrow saffron]

alr thanks

[elder thistle]

how do you define best

which headphones you like the most will depend on what you'll listen to on them, and what you care about hearing in the sound

or if you'd use free eq software to change the tone and bass/treble amounts

[topaz yoke]

Got the G335 good headset

[steel escarp]

Cought in 4k

[unique wind]

[haughty girder]

objectivist prick, fun fact: you can't eq out bad treble

at a lower budget, there isn't really many options. stop making it more complicated than it really is

[elder thistle]

its extremely complicated

also depends what you mean by lower budget

but the whole $20-200 kinda area is what I've been studying

[haughty girder]

and your conclusions?

[elder thistle]

well it dictates everything I've been saying

[haughty girder]

hd560s, dt880, k612 which is brighter than hd560s, what else

I refuse to recommend planars as at the price only hifimans exist and they all suck

[elder thistle]

none of those are universal recommendations

but the only one of those I have is the hd560s

[haughty girder]

unfortunately you can't get picky with a $150 budget

[elder thistle]

it's the nature of things

yes you can, it's huge

[haughty girder]

the most you can ask for is treble that isn't painful to listen to as a baseline

You can't tell me an 8k and 15k peak is what you define is okay

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-fight-pelea-monos-cuchillos-gif-13300071

[elder thistle]

you can get something that sounds 20 feet wide with weird loose bass. you can get headphones that are tight, image spherically, and tear every song apart. you can get headphones that glue together all the sound but follow harman. you can get headphones that excel or suck with identifying front vs back in games

[haughty girder]

ok say this: I want a generally neutral headphone to any DF target, I don't care about staging but directionality is somewhat important

[elder thistle]

it is crazy

[haughty girder]

Unfortunately you can't give a recc like that because guess what

People don't know schiit

I've said this before and I'll say it again

people asking for a headphone with "best headphones under x budget" don't want to learn the entire hobby, just a general blanket recommendation that works for what they're trying to use it for

[elder thistle]

they don't have to learn the hobby

[haughty girder]

most won't know the difference between staging and imaging, or what is considered "balanced"

And that's ok

they give you a budget

[elder thistle]

I don't usually phrase things like that

[haughty girder]

you give them a couple options that work for what they're trying to use them for

it's not that deep

[elder thistle]

learning what they're trying to use them for is the hard part

[haughty girder]

you don't have to be so formal about every single detail to ultimately recommend the exact same thing

Because guess what, options are incredibly limited

[elder thistle]

options are endless

I give headphone advice to people and correct how I give advice over time until less people are lost and they get the most from what I say

several times a day people thank me for giving them an idea of what the headphones they're considering would do, and incorporate that advice

if my methods weren't working frequently then I'd change them

[haughty girder]

ok then go this: I want a reference headphone, good imaging is a must as I master audio for virtual surround movies using hrtf. Tuning is whatever as long as long as it's not painful to listen to. If it fulfills these requirements I don't care about comfort. macrodetail is a bonus but not a focus

go give a recc

[haughty girder]

you've asked a million questions that lead nowhere and ultimately never give a recommendation

[lean pike]

You should not be mastering surround with headphones…

[haughty girder]

you didn't get it

it's a speaker setup

but for a reference to use virtual surround

because you can abuse hrtf to actually pull a decent implementation off

[elder thistle]

I think this gets into a lot of headphones I haven't tried

[haughty girder]

My point exactly

you don't know shit.

you don't have the experience

and you're trying to correct how others give recommendations

fortunately there's people who do

[elder thistle]

I didn't know my experience was under scrutiny

[haughty girder]

So you don't need to be trying to correct every single question or statement from everyone else

[unique wind]

tbh in the $100-150 price range the only headphone i would personally consider is the sennheiser pc38x because at least it has inoffensive treble

[elder thistle]

additional perspective adds merit and value to the question at hand

consensus

that's what it's all about

when someone asks a question and there's poor consensus, it suggests to the person that this is more subjective and unclear than they thought

[haughty girder]

Personal perspective and preference can play a role when the budget isn't so limiting that there's very few headphones that aren't garbage in every aspect to begin with

[elder thistle]

which is exactly how the audio world is

[haughty girder]

The only person who is disagreeing is you

before you were here it was a consensus every time on what headphone generally worked with what, because there was so few options

and yet you're here trying to play big boss saying that there's discussion to be had when there isn't

Your options for iems under 150, plenty. Preference takes precedence past about 50 bucks. Headphones have a much higher entry cost

[elder thistle]

it'd be a crime not to treat audio like a subjective hobby

[haughty girder]

It'd be a crime to say that dt990 are good.

[elder thistle]

they're good at some things thus far, for me

[haughty girder]

it'd be a crime to say hd599 are worth their price

[haughty girder]

remember the 8k and 15k peak I was talking about?

they're painful to listen to because they're sibilant

subjectively AND objectively

[elder thistle]

it's fine for me

[haughty girder]

because you've listened and coped to it for so long that your brain adapted to its sound in order to not cause pain for yourself

[elder thistle]

no pain, not overblown in the treble to the point that it annoys me

I haven't used it for more than 2 hours

[haughty girder]

hence my statement that you do not have the knowledge nor the experience to be trying to play the judge here

[elder thistle]

I have the ability to judge the headphones I buy

[shadow stag]

hey, for my purposes i think im better off with a portable recorder, zoom h1n seems good?

vocal work and sampling objects

so, im reading arturia minifuse 2 is good?

sup @haughty girder thoughts? i think the above recommendation goes well for me too i suppose, i can work with that through not now but in the future when i have money

[elder thistle]

not really. I wish I saved $100 and got nothing at all. the noise floor is so high that no samples other than loud sounds can be used without denoising, the microphones have serious channel imbalance, and the handling noise is high

[shadow stag]

which zoom recorder would you suggest then?

[warm scarab]

why do you need this?

[shadow stag]

for fun, not a need

[warm scarab]

a 5$ lavalier mic and your phone should perform times better

[elder thistle]

no idea. maybe something that hooks up to a phone

[shadow stag]

i realize that i'll need to buy a sdhc too

[elder thistle]

nah not a cheap lavalier mic

[shadow stag]

i have iphone, are there lighting ones?

[warm scarab]

why not lmao

[elder thistle]

the sound quality of the h1n at least beats that

[warm scarab]

just use the lightning to 3.5 adapter

I don't think you ever listened to a 5$ lavalier

[shadow stag]

oh it just works as combo jack?

[elder thistle]

I have a few

[warm scarab]

it should to my knowledge

[shadow stag]

i do have the adapter

[warm scarab]

I'd call it terrible mic technique and a day

sounds like a skill issue

[elder thistle]

one came with my camera, one I had for a long time a while ago as a mic for the desktop, and a rode one from the flea market

[elder thistle]

ok yeah that's pretty good lol

I like the sound of speech on the h1n but at the very least that lavalier is close and doesn't have the noise issues

[warm scarab]

saves you 97$

ill take it

[elder thistle]

might have to figure out how to do some gain control, not sure

[haughty girder]

minifuse 2 is really good for its price, but fwiw so is the h1n

issue with h1n is that much of it's functionality is wasted if your only trying to use it as a single purpose mic

also high noise floor and channel imbalance sounds like a dead capsule to me, probably a QC issue

[shadow stag]

maybe its limited to a certain batch of them?

how about a h2n?

[haughty girder]

issue with the H series is that their preamps aren't that clean

I like the h1n for its cost to functionality, none of the other ones make sense to me

[shadow stag]

oh....

should i go for a 3.5m mic that i connect to my iphone?

i have a basic desktop mic

[haughty girder]

you could

there are some fantastic cheap lavs

wait what basic desktop mic?

[meager wave]

any good EQ curve for Geometry Dash ? It sounds flat

(set it to about 0 change for the Custom one to do the thing)

[elder thistle]

two friends of mine have the same issue

I think it's just generally way too high

the noise floor

it's not completely useless, but it's close to it lol

never successfully recovered a normal volume sound from it as a sample with a non-noticeable noise floor

not even with a noise gate

fl studio's edison denoise does a lot of damage to the rest of the sound as a result of how much there is

[shadow stag]

a basically no name desktop mic that is dirt cheap

[elder thistle]

maybe if you have that new denoiser waves put out

or izotope rx10 but I can't test those

[shadow stag]

is izotope rx worth having?

and ozone?

[elder thistle]

well I didn't buy them personally

it seems to be outdated/overrated in comparison to some newer plugins at certain tasks

[quaint nexus]

just got a new graphics card and for some reason its made my audio go crackly and sometimes my mic doesnt pick up
gone from 2060s -> 4070

any ideas

[warm scarab]

mic not picking up doesn't sound related to it

but gpus can introduce noise to audio

[lean pike]

No you can make a better denoising chain that is less obvious and degrading in like 30mins with free plugins

[shadow stag]

go on...

any better replacements for ozone?

[lean pike]

Start with a 4 band eq and just do some very high Q cuts for room noise and specific resonances, probably no more than 8db per cut (depends how bad the noise is). Use bertom Denoiser classic, a de-esser, and maybe a compressor

[shadow stag]

fabfilter, soundtoys are good stuff?

[lean pike]

I use pro-q3 yea

Fab filter

Also a fancy thing you can do that works quite well is a reverse polarity filter. Gives no loss but a very quiet noise floor and limits the amount of noise able to get thru the mic due to cancellation

[shadow stag]

not sure on de-esser plugins and i have many compressors, maybe fabfilter's is good at that?

ah interesting

[lean pike]

I think I use a waves de-esser

[lean pike]

https://youtu.be/HyXjejFeMyU?si=E-1MwJOd_nV4y2w_

For ableton, but you could make a similar thing in FL

[quaint nexus]

how can it be rectified?

[lean pike]

Can try a full reinstallation of graphics drivers

[shadow stag]

alternative to waves?

[warm scarab]

lmao

[warm scarab]

you need an external way of outputting audio

cheapest way of doing is an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

costs like 9$

[lean pike]

Oh he has no outboard gear?

[warm scarab]

wait I thought you were being sarcastic

[lean pike]

No, that’s a genuine solution I’ve been told

[warm scarab]

gpu noise is caused by magnetic fields of the fans, poor shielding or dirtying the power source

drivers wont fix that

[quaint nexus]

wut?

[shadow stag]

oh, so an audio interface would avoid any noise caused by the audio card in the motherboard?

[warm scarab]

generally

there are cases where the dirtied power also pollutes usb connections

[shadow stag]

how do i check exactly if i have such case?

[warm scarab]

you can filter them using adapters though

[warm scarab]

uh, do you hear any noise?

[lean pike]

Fab filter has a good one

Pro-Ds

[shadow stag]

can it still happen even if it has its own isolated section on the motherboard and gold plated connectors?

[quaint nexus]

just me or does this sound like hella audiophile nonsense (im not an audio guy but that sounds wack af)

[lean pike]

Me rn

I assume

[warm scarab]

its a pretty well established thing lol

[lean pike]

I need to get some USB filters cuz my motu gets fucked interference sometimes when gaming

[shadow stag]

i use hearing aids and i have fan noise and all that so i cant tell you exactly

[warm scarab]

golden sound also had this happen to him

he has something that filters out the noise I think

[lean pike]

With motu?

[warm scarab]

I don't remember I remember seeing it in a vid

let me see if I can find it

[quaint nexus]

it sounds like another one of those products, like cable lifters so the wire doesnt go across the floor lmao

[shadow stag]

i just know that i might have some electronic interference on the back of my computer, i think i checked with my magnetic feature thing my hearing aid has

[lean pike]

It’s a little more concrete than that

[warm scarab]

yeah

[quaint nexus]

a little more or a lot a more

[warm scarab]

power conditioners exist

[lean pike]

This actually goes into the circuit

[warm scarab]

its a power conditioner but for your usb instead

[lean pike]

And yea we use power conditioners in our tools at work, it makes a difference

[warm scarab]

at least I think

[shadow stag]

is it more likely that my keyboard has issues with the filter or my computer having electric issues?

[warm scarab]

uh I don't know

I am an audio guy not a tech one

[lean pike]

Do you use some weird old keyboard?

[shadow stag]

if i have a constant specific noise that barely changes pitch

[warm scarab]

ah

[shadow stag]

i have a casio ctk-601 i use for midi and i like the sound it has

[warm scarab]

you could also have some sort of noise

[lean pike]

Oh that kind of keyboard

[shadow stag]

its a organ synth with basic midi

[warm scarab]

midi stuff shouldn't have an issue

[lean pike]

Yea I doubt that would cause interference

[shadow stag]

dont worry about it

the issue is the audio output

it gets converted from the larger size that comes after 3.5mm

not trs, that's bigger

also its off-balance

for some reason

[lean pike]

4.4?

[shadow stag]

i guesss?

im not super familiar with all the audio jack sizes

[warm scarab]

4.4 sounds a bit odd

[lean pike]

Ye#a

[warm scarab]

just look at google images

[lean pike]

But he said smaller than 6.35?

[shadow stag]

its a 1998 keyboard basically

bought in 2004

had it uses

[lean pike]

I would imagine it uses 6.35 SE

Or midi

[shadow stag]

not midi for audio

midi is for midi

[lean pike]

This would be for connecting to speakers or a mixer

[shadow stag]

this is basically a bit of a pro keyboard at the time

i think

it has the same jack type for a sustain pedal

yeah

its 6.35

oh lol

its trs then?

TIL

[lean pike]

Yup

[steel escarp]

I thought I was going deaf the he1000 stealth no longer sounding sibilant

go back to edition xs

this stuff is way more sibilant all of a sudden

what the heck how did he1000 stealth stop being sibilant

[cloud phoenix]

hey guys! I jut bought a pair of dt 880 editions and got them today. I plugged them in to realise that the volume is really low. I had tp push all my volumes up to 100%. I think the reason why is because I'm plugging the headphones into my monitor for convenience as I have a nintendo switch and a PS5 also plugged into my monitor. Is there any easy solution to this?

[narrow saffron]

i think because it cant handle the power of the headphones

[cloud phoenix]

yeah thats what I though

i plugged em into my pc directly and theyre a lot louder

is there any way to get an amp of some sort

would that help?

[sudden grove]

I ordered my mic stuffs. I got the funny mx 8500 and the funny behringer um2 and funny stand and xlr cable. So I'm prepped to start uploading when they arrive!

[narrow saffron]

they told me to get the cx31993 for starters and if it doesn't make it sound better to get a dac

[cloud phoenix]

have you heard of the iFi audio Zen Air CAN Headphone Amplifier?

[narrow saffron]

nah im not that helpful when it comes to stuff like that lol

im sorry

[cloud phoenix]

would getting an ampe still allow me to plug my headphones into a monitor?

and just supply more power?

[narrow saffron]

i think if you get one for that type

[modest cave]

Do more expensive xlr mic cables actually make a difference? Ive heard it both ways.

[warm scarab]

its a nice amp what of it

wait air

i don't know of the air version

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/A0TlrpVCRgw

[boreal ether]

Hello, which pair of headphones are better without taking in account the price, xm4, xm5 or AirPods Max?

Audio and comfortability

[lean grove]

gun to my head i'd probably take the max.

doesn't have the massive bloat that the xm4 and 5 do

[boreal ether]

You mean like the sony headphones are too big ?

[cloud phoenix]

is the beyerdynamic tygr 300r headphones any good?

[lean grove]

The sonys have way too much bass. It's like salt. Decent amount, good. Too much all you taste is salt.

They add massive amounts of bass to everything.

[boreal ether]

Ok

I’ll look into the maxes

[warm scarab]

they are pretty alright

[dark crypt]

Does anyone know anything about vinyl record players?

My needle talk is insanely loud and I was wondering how to make it quieter

[white gate]

Generally speaking no.
There can be some slight differences in specific circumstances, star-quad cables have better noise rejection if the cable is in a really noisy environment.

Other cable designs might have lower capacitance which over long cable runs could be a consideration.

But otherwise, for the normal few metres run from mic to interface in a home setting theres absolutely no reason to spend much

[elder thistle]

maybe durability-wise but even then it's not being messed with a lot

someone else said that here and it made sense

I like cable matters cables

premium build without premium price, decent shielding

[harsh heron]

What’s the best ps5 headset for like $50 or less, all my headphones don’t have mics, and my g435s and kraken x’s blow so I want something wit a decent mic and comfort

[copper ermine]

is there a way to merge input devices on windows

[molten lotus]

The audio quality on my Crusher Evo's is kinda meh but who buys crushers for the audio qaulity

[modest cave]

Good to know, thanks.

[orchid trellis]

Hey guys I'm building a PC to interface with an old Jukeboxes speaker system and am looking for advice

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1189240664102289470

here's my post any advice is welcome!

[chrome island]

Try Redragon H510

[harsh heron]

bruh

[chrome island]

What, if you're in the US, you can get an open box, from Redragonshop for like 45$ when they are on sale

In EU I can get it for 45€ from decent stores, so I don't see an issue

https://redragonshop.com/products/open-box-h510-zeus-x-white

And one is even on sale right now on Redragonshop

[harsh heron]

Reddragon audio isn’t good tho, I’d like something with some half decent sound and consistency

I’m thinking cloud 2s or pc37x

[chrome island]

H510 is like 80% of Cloud 2 sound and they are pretty consistent
Also you need to learn the name of the company you're craping on😁

[harsh heron]

What name did I get wrong bruh

[chrome island]

Also Cloud 2 or PC37x is not going to be 50$ in brand new condition

[chrome island]

Redragon is with one D

[harsh heron]

Cloud 2s are 55 for me, and I’m willing to buy used with sennheiser as they last a whole lot longer

[harsh heron]

Oh no I got one letter wrong

What shall i do

[fair trench]

Is anyone able to help me make a decision on a headset? I’m currently looking at these brands, astros, steelseries, and hyperx. Any recommendations within these brands? Not using any audio interface just plugging into my controller

[errant wharf]

Between the 3 hyperx would probably be better

[fair trench]

Better than the arctic pro and a40 with mixamps

[warm scarab]

you can get cloud 2 brand new for 50-60

[warm scarab]

arctis pro is pretty horrible

a40 is usable at most

hyperx cloud 2 wireless is alright

instead of this wont you provide a budget to us so we can provide you with a headphone recommendation

[warm scarab]

go for the cloud 2 like you mentioned

[fair trench]

250 usd top and I don’t have a proper setup for a separate mic so I need a headset

[warm scarab]

voicemeeter banana but it can lead to lots of troubleshooting and break windows audio drivers permanently until a format, not a common thing to happen but use at your own risk

[warm scarab]

audeze maxwell is the best wireless headphone you can buy at 300$

pc38x is a good choice

and for 250$ you can easily buy a headphone, mic, audio interface and an arm if needed

[fair trench]

I just don’t have a desk for all that. I play on a tv because of space constraints or I would go that route

That’s why I’m looking for a headset

[warm scarab]

well maxwell and px38

whichever fits your needs

[fair trench]

I’ll look into those. Thank you

[chrome merlin]

Finally —> Sold my light sound company . But boys will be boys even when you are born in the 60 tie’s . My new home theater: screen 65 inch lg 120 hz . Sound : Sonos —> 1 arc , 2 era 300 back , 2 sub gen 3 all in atmos setup but extra front stereo era 300 .I have been around . but I must say . That new Sonos setup is so nice better than my Bose and later my b&w , jbl setup @ a cost fraction my pro setup in my home in the past. Are there Sonos users here ?

[chrome merlin]

When it works, it works doing more with less . Just have fun.

[merry hill]

Hi folks, I've just purchased my first piece of home cinema equipment, a Yamaha RX-V4a AV Receiver.
I have some old speakers to use for now until I can afford better ones but some guys on the hometheatre sub reddit scared me about using the sub,
Are there any rules about picking a sub in terms of safety? They made it sound that the sub could fry my AV Receiver?
I found this sub (Klipsch ProMedia GMX A-2.1) as a local sale to me and was wondering if I can just buy this and hook it up?

[lean grove]

They had good reason to scare you away from it. It's meant to be used with two Klipsch speakers and it doesn't look directly compatible with anything else.

You can probably find a way to get it working but idk how off the top of my head.

[merry hill]

Well they were scaring me away from the speaker set sub I had, this Klipsch sub is just one I found on a local facebay,
I was just thinking of plugging in power and rca between my AV-R and the link out?

Also found this one which may be a possibility but it's lower wattage:

[lean grove]

I don't think that would work, using the link-out.

[merry hill]

dang 😦

sorry, I'm just trying to be a cheapo until I can afford better speakers

[lean grove]

That one looks much better. Also the Klipsch sub is only 65 watts and that one is 100 watts. So it has more power.

[merry hill]

OH

Okay I'll grab that second one then

Thank you so much Nils :),
This whole market is scary for a newb, especially when there's risk to fry my brand new receiver haha

[lean grove]

Just for the future, the difference between 65 watts and 100 watts is not that big.

[merry hill]

That's good to know, thank you 🙂

[lean grove]

Gives you maybe 2-3db of headroom. Which is some but not a ton.

If you want a serious difference in power, it should be 100 watts vs 400 watts

[merry hill]

Yeah I think once I get the budget I'll start buying one by one but for now just trying to get it working as a baseline so I can start using it

[lean grove]

The kef will be a good baseline :)

They make good stuff

[heady hemlock]

yall know a good headset whit good mic? razer kraken is not it

[lean grove]

Pc37x and pc38x have pretty good mics.

I usually find that a noisy mic input can make things sound like crap too

[warm scarab]

beautiful remark lmao

follow nils advice

[steel escarp]

the guy who was gonna sell me a susvara hasn't responded for 3 days now

I'll just EQ he1000 stealth to susvara and cope

[warm scarab]

real

[narrow saffron]

anyone know if this can power the se v7? https://www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0AVV

[cloud phoenix]

are the tygr 300r any good for listening to music? I found them on sale for $200 AUD. I would also be gaming with them but I'd much rather my music sound good.

[lean grove]

treble might be a bit hot for some types of music what headphones are you currently using right now?

[cloud phoenix]

the razer kraken x (yes I know they're bad, I bought em back when I though razer made good headphones)

[haughty girder]

It can but I would recommend stepping up to at least an M track solo

or if you can stretch your budget a bit, UMC202HD at 80 bucks if you need two inputs or Arturia Minifuse 1 for 99 if you need something that's very clean and has good drivers

[lean grove]

you'll probably love the tygrs

[cloud phoenix]

so they are good for listening to music

[lean grove]

better than your krakens

i would prefer the dt880s. they're a lot more neutral sounding. better mids

but they're also gonna be closer to 300 aud

hd560s from sennheiser would also be a pretty good alternative.

[cloud phoenix]

i got the dt 880s but accidentally got the 250ohm versions (oops) so i couldnt use them with my switch or ps5! Managed to return them though.

i also didn't particularly like the way they sounded

music sounded great!

but in CS2 the gun reloading sounds sounded cheap. Maybe thats the way they were supposed to sound.

maybe I just needed time to get used to them.

[unique wind]

sounds about right

very few headphones have enough bass on their own without using eq

(very few good headphones)

[cloud phoenix]

as in a digital eq?

[unique wind]

yah

but if you take a headphone that has good midrange and treble out of the box and then add a bass boost with EQ then you get magic

[lean grove]

brain burn-in is a thing. you're used to the way krakens sound. gotta let your ears adjust to a new sound signature.

[unique wind]

true dat

[cloud phoenix]

so do ya reckon I should get the dt 880s again? Just the 32ohm this time

problem is they're not on sale anywhere

are the tygrs bad at listening to music

[unique wind]

if youre willing to use EQ then i think that the Hifiman HE400SE are the best headphones in the $100-200 USD price range

$200+ would be refurbished Hifiman Sundara or Sennheiser HD 6xx

[cloud phoenix]

just looked at the hifiman and they look pretty good

around the same price as the dt 880 32ohm

off sale that is

but are the tygrs any good at music playback

seems alright

[unique wind]

i dont know anything about the tygr

[cloud phoenix]

oh sorry!

[narrow saffron]

oh so you can still use it without any problems? because i don't think i have enough to get the m track solo yet

[elder thistle]

if you have access to eq, I dont see why the mackie mc450 wouldnt be a more interesting option than the he400se

two possible reasons are soundstage and comfort

but otherwise...

well the instrument separation is higher

[echo girder]

Hello just here to ask Any recommendations for a starter microphone not too high end that's expensive just Something with a decent Audio quality That I can use when Playing some online games or recording some stuff.

[haughty girder]

As long as you ensure the mic is close to your mouth (as it should) one way or another (mic arm recommended)

it will work ok

but it can be pretty noisy at higher preamp settings

so I'd recommend saving for something a little better

[hybrid turret]

is the dt880 the best headset for around $150 that i should get?

i'm seeing quite frequently that people are complaining about the treble on these beyerynamic headphones

7xx,8xx,9xx

i'm leaning toward the dt 880 premium semi-open

i'm using $16 headphones rn 😭

[elder thistle]

if you're worried about the treble, I'm guessing that means you don't expect to use eq

the treble on my dt770 and dt990 is kinda loud but not as bad as I was told it would be. I don't have the dt880 but it's supposed to be tamer

you could try the senn. hd560s instead if you don't want bright treble. though some people have still gotten extremely bright treble because of their ear shape

aside from tonal balance, the hd560s is not that different from my dt990. the treble might be more defined on the former

there's still plenty of people who prefer the dt880 over the hd560s

[steel escarp]

DT880 needs like 2 EQ filters max to be neutral

[fringe gulch]

hello, can anyone help me? im from Brazil, i have a logitech g935 headset that the mic died

i want to get a new headset to use, mainly on the computer for playing games, use discord with friends while playing, i would prefer wireless

someone recommended me Sennheizer, and the only wireless headset on their website on Brazil was the MOMENTUM 4, that i bought, arrived yesterday, and i was everything really good until i launch a game

the headset is bluetooth, i can use with my computer, but everytime that i launch a game that has voice comm, even if i dont use, the headset activate the mic, and thinks im in a phone call, and reduces the sound of everything that isn't voices, this makes impossible to play games with, because i can't hear the music, sound effects and everything, but voices are super clear...

im trying to contact them to return and get a refund

what headset / brand would you recommend? i was trying to get Logitech PRO X 2 Wireless, it is on the logitech brazil website, but out of stock right now, if not i have the option of Astro A50, or Alienware AW920H

the worst part that i understand 🤣 is that for most of you there are tons of avaliable options, but here in Brazil that sucks, and if i need to import, will take ages to arrive and i pay double because of taxes

i learned the expensive way, that bluetooth headset sucks

[chrome island]

People here really overplay the treble on Beyers while underplaying how shallow the bass is on sennies, so yeah 😄

[chrome island]

Not all of them, but most of them do

[chrome island]

Astro A50 is probably the least terrible option of the 3

If you really want a wireless headset get Cloud 2 wireless or cloud 3 wireless

[fringe gulch]

really? 🤔

astro would be even better than pro x 2 wireless?

[chrome island]

akg n700nc m2 is probably one of the few BT headsets that don't suck, if you really want something working on BT, but BT isn't the best option for gaming etc due to latency

[chrome island]

It wouldn't break as fast and sounds a bit better

[fringe gulch]

one thing from pro x 2 that i saw, is that comes with a case, would be very good to put on my backpack, and use at the work when i need to go to the office

[fringe gulch]

interesting

[chrome island]

Generally, I can't recommend Logitech headsets, they pretty much universally have hardware design issues.

[fringe gulch]

i noticed with g935, the mic died so fast

cloud 3 wireless isn't avaliable here for Brazil unfortunally

[chrome island]

Cloud 2 wireless in some ways is a more universal option

[fringe gulch]

i only got the only bluetooth headset from sennheizer because was the only wireless option, i know Linus and Luke use a wired Sennheizer on the wan show, and Linus also talked good thinks about those

but after this i would avoid bluetooth 🤣

[chrome island]

Generally, BT and Audio isn't something you want in one sentence, there are exceptions, but they are rare

[fringe gulch]

unfortunally, cloud 2 wireless is also not avaliable

by the specs, how can i learn to see if a headset should be good or not? is it possible?

[fringe gulch]

hmmm there is one thing that dont looks good with the Astro A50 headset, could sound good and be confy, but don't have the option to use with a wire if needed

[chrome island]

Frequency response curve is your best friend when you know what you want, when you don't, well trial and error

[fringe gulch]

i have no idea what is good or not