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real quartz
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Games mainly

elder thistle
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and how important is determining the direction of the sounds

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and at what cost?

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(comfort, sound, build quality)

real quartz
elder thistle
elder thistle
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probably the mackie mc-150 then. because:

real quartz
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Uhh

elder thistle
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the tonality is still not that balanced, going for an upwards tilt sorta + midbass bump. but that extra treble will help with hearing some cues compared to the 512 audio audition

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both of which will be below neutral in the 200-400hz area. which is not what you want for gaming really

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but I was able to tell front from back better on those two than all the other headphones I listed

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which, if it can't do that well enough, then it's almost pointless

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neither are that comfortable for me. comfortable relative to it's price point? yeah probably

real quartz
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I am sorry but you might be a little too late

elder thistle
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and the mc150 is built a little worse but that's the price of having that elevated treble

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o

real quartz
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I needed headphones today

tight prairie
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Motu 2 sounds absolutely amazing and a definite improvement over the 2i2. The microphone sounds exceptionally crisper and clearer and the faint popping I heard with the 2i2 is gone. The levels display is also a great touch.
Only wish the XLR input was on the back like the 2i2 4th gen. ๐Ÿ˜…

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I do have one issue and I don't even know if its an issue. When I monitor the microphone or send a voice message on WhatsApp or test out the microphone by recording online, the playback is in stereo. However, when I use Windows built-in Voice Recorder app, I hear the playback only in the left channel. With the 2i2, I was able to go into the sound settings and change default format to single channel which fixed the problem.

warm scarab
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not an idea

tight prairie
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In the recording tab, these are the only inputs shown. In 1-2 is the default and the one that causes the issue. Loopback records computer audio only. Loopback Mix records both microphone in stereo as well as computer audio.

tight prairie
haughty girder
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Hola is discontinued

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so all stock rn once sold won't be restocked

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If they can't find Hola, then switch to Zero, Wan'er or ATP Cadenza

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but Cadenza is a little pricier for not much better

unique wind
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rip hola

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never tried it but it's probably the best $20 iem

vestal meadow
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They are just a bit too easy to break

haughty girder
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the best built one is the Hola (unless you count cadenza)

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Wan'er is a simple plastic shell that also comes apart fairly easily

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and the qdc connector is brittle

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if you want something durable, step up the price up to like cadenza levels at least

gusty spruce
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am i better off upgrading my focusrite solo 3rd gen or just changing to my other mic for better audio quality

lean grove
gusty spruce
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i already bought a desktop mic stand and a short xlr cable

lean grove
gusty spruce
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ye true

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well i just bought desktop mic stand and short xlr cable

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so i can use my shure sm58

haughty girder
gusty spruce
grand dove
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So I just bought a shure sm7b. I was wondering what would be a good setup for it?

warm scarab
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we live in a society

molten skiff
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best closed back for immersive gaming ?

warm scarab
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you asked this a few days back no

molten skiff
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well I want one thats wired

warm scarab
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budget?

molten skiff
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the one reccomened was a bluethooth mic

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headset*

warm scarab
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it wasn't bluetooth

molten skiff
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still wireless

warm scarab
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yeah

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your budget?

molten skiff
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like 300

warm scarab
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k371

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next question please

elder thistle
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probably with eq

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k371 is not what I'd call immersive

molten skiff
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okay

elder thistle
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I like the soundstage of the dt770, which is a natural strength

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hard to describe what the k371 is doing

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then there's a weird gap above $150 where nobody wants to make closed backs

warm scarab
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provide him the eq preset too if you are going to say that

elder thistle
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yes

warm scarab
buoyant vale
elder thistle
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srh1540 is pretty sick

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been a long time but it's got extra bass, just overall really good separation, pretty smooth response, exciting treble

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some stage iirc

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but you'd have to find it used for that kind of price

unborn gale
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SRH1540 is comfy (with a headband cover) and sounds great...but built like shit

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there are zero other redeeming qualities

unique wind
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hifiman literally just put a wooden back on the sundara and changed nothing else

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it's so bad

gusty spruce
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i just have pair of akg 72 closed backs

desert cargo
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So what do you guys think of the QC35ii in terms of audio quality via cable?

tepid torrent
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R10

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Audivina

unique wind
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they appear to not

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theyve never made a closed back that isnt genuine dumpsterfire tier as far as i know but i could be wrong

tepid torrent
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no youre not

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their iems also suck

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๐Ÿ’€

unique wind
molten skiff
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this says xbox or ps version will eithe version work o pc

molten skiff
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Wait these are in 300 usd no cad

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I can't be spending 450 dollars on headphone lol

wheat moss
molten skiff
wheat moss
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yeah, and?

molten skiff
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I want closed back

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I prefer closed back

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Since with open back my mic and stuff picks up my headsets audio

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And hearing less outside audio is a plus too

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Since at times my house can be a bit loud

molten skiff
wheat moss
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oh it's you, didn't recognise you KEKW

molten skiff
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I just want closed back ones

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Since I want more noise isolation

molten skiff
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Unwilling to help me then lol this server everyone with a blue name is a jerk

wheat moss
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no, we don't help you because you've been an absolute pain in the ass to deal with in the past

molten skiff
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All I said is I wanted closed back headphones

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But not at a 300 usd price tag

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Whatever u say dude

wheat moss
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the fact that you don't understand why we don't like helping you is the exact reason we don't like helping you

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I'm not trying to be mean, you're just painful

molten skiff
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Yes cuz ppl can't change

elder thistle
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I only have the srh440A. has a little extra bass, not getting as much as the graphs suggest but that's probably a good thing. great separation and most of all treble detail (surprisingly). soundstage isn't there

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I'm mildly a fan of the ath-m50x even though it's a divisive headphone and some people report low instrument separation (which makes no sense given what I'm personally hearing from the sound)

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like I'd place it marginally above the hd560s there

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but yes it depends what exactly you want the headphones to do and with what content (certain music genres, things like fps games, movies etc

molten skiff
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Well just looking for like immersive headphones

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Not really interested in like hearing exactly were a footstep is coming from since I'm not big into competitive fps

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Play mostly RPGs and stuff

elder thistle
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I don't know what qualifies as immersive for you

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soundstage comes to mind when I think about immersion

molten skiff
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Big thing with 560s I have I'm not fan of is it seems like the bass is a bit on the weaker side from what I'm used to

elder thistle
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oah

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well... measurements suggest the hd560s can be bass boosted and not really care

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low thd at high volumes

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but if that's something that hurts immersion and you don't want to use eq,

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well the dt770 is probably the closest thing to your hd560s

molten skiff
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Ok

elder thistle
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sharp treble though

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which, can make things sound hyperdetailed but can of course be harsh

molten skiff
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Ok

elder thistle
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there's the akg k371 which is very well tuned, but it's got poor instrument separation and stage. a good bit of extra bass by default

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for calmer music the midrange actually sounds sick

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it's like

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oversennheisered

vestal meadow
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(and it did end up breaking)

fresh saddle
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Can somebody help me with my mic

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its sounds like a robot and distorted a little bit

supple robin
supple robin
serene surge
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Is there an audio amp+dac that takes one input and allows three 3.5mm audio jack outputs, and lets the user freely turn on each individial output, or turn on multiple outputs at once? additionally have bluetooth for bluetooth headphones would be a huge bonus

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I'm using a $20 switch box right now it's great but IDK if there's something better out there.

left cypress
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@lean grove ive decided im going to buy the a70pro and d70pro as a combo

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is there a way with this system to quickly swap between my headphones and my speakers?

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like can i plug my headphones and speakers into this?

fresh basalt
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are jlab headphones/earphones worth buying? (for running/cycling, so im not too concerned about being the worlds best sound quality)

warm saffron
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Just buy Sennheiser he-1's

haughty girder
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but if you want an amp, dac and bt all together, To my knowledge that doesn't exist

lean grove
fresh basalt
warm scarab
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if not the sound quality what exactly is the selling factor for the item

lean grove
fresh basalt
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had some sony ones that hooked round my ears for years, died recently, sony make nothing similar now, and these are the only brand i recognise that still make some that are in a price range where i wont care if they fall off when im coming down a mountain road at 60+kph

lean grove
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Yeah fair enough. Idk any actually good ones for this sort of thing, but at $20 if they make noise and they stay in I guess that's a w

warm scarab
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the best i can name are those moondrop in ears but those would probably fall off

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and im guessing wired isn't an option

fresh basalt
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i dont mind either way

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if anything, wired would be preferred, because i dont have to think about battery life when ironman training

warm scarab
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there are surprisingly good sounding in ear options for 20$

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see if you can find truthear holas, they are discontinued but still in stock here and there

lean grove
haughty girder
iron cipher
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Heyyoo guys, i was wondering if there is a big difference between the shure sm7b and the sm7db ?

warm scarab
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both are bad ๐Ÿ‘

iron cipher
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that's not what i've asked

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lmao

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i've just wanted to know if there is a big difference between the 2

lean grove
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I bet you someone's answered this exact question before. See if it's on Reddit or Google.

haughty girder
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Don't listen to Klaus

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he's very opinionated even when nobody asks for his opinion

iron cipher
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yeah lmao ik

haughty girder
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SM7dB is the exact same thing as the SM7B with a built in cloudlifter

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so basically you just turn on phantom power (48v) and the SM7B will boost itself

iron cipher
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cause the thing is that i've got an maudio sound card that i've bought 300$ a few year ago it's a c600 and i don't know if i really need a cloudlifter with it

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cuz for the cloudlifter it's almost double the price

lean grove
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More money to milk from gamers

haughty girder
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I'm not too familiar with the C600, if you want to use an SM7B with it you can give it a shot. I'd imagine you'd need some digital gain but that's okay

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if it's too noisy then you can grab a fethead

iron cipher
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i've heard on some forum that the c600 can easily take a sm7b

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but idk about the cloudlifter thing

haughty girder
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oh

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cloudlifter/fethead are just inline preamps

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they take phantom power and use that to boost the signal of whatever mic

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SM7B is notorious for needing a ton of gain

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partially because it's an SM57 capsule (which is already on the less sensitive side) and recessed into the body

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db is probably not worth the price of the SM7B, if that's really what you want

lean grove
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Why not just get a mic that's easier to work with that's probably cheaper

iron cipher
haughty girder
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Cheaper? definitely. But SM7B being so far recessed into the body means it's probably one of the easiest dynamic mics to use

haughty girder
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it's not really worth it IMO

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it just got really popular out of nowhere

iron cipher
warm scarab
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pay 400$ for the microphone

haughty girder
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shut up

iron cipher
warm scarab
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that has lack of treble

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because its "good"

iron cipher
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like every podcast and stuff got it

haughty girder
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nobody asked whether it's good or for your opinion

warm scarab
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how are you going this far to excuse such a shit microphone

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its literally any average mic but with no response to higher frequencies

iron cipher
warm scarab
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anything post 100$ for an sm7b is too much

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even 100$ since you need a cloudlifter

lean grove
warm scarab
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literally this

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I have no idea how nextgen is this supportive of this mic

haughty girder
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I'm not supporting it

warm scarab
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its 100% a cope

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what makes this mic better than anything else available sub 100$

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fuck 100$

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sub 60$

iron cipher
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if this mic is so shitty

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what mic do u advise me

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?

haughty girder
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I literally just said it's an SM57

haughty girder
warm scarab
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he is asking to buy whether sm7b or not

lean grove
warm scarab
# iron cipher what mic do u advise me

In this video we will find out if you can eq a Behringer XM8500 to sound like a Sure SM7B.

Amazon | Shure SM7B: https://amzn.to/3j2MIC2 *
Thomann EU | Behringer XM8500: https://www.thomann.de/intl/behringer_xm8500.htm?offid=1&affid=1188 *
Thomann EU | Shure SM7B: https://www.thomann.de/intl/shure_sm_7b_studiomikro.htm?offid=1&affid=1188 *

Supp...

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iron cipher
haughty girder
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He asked if there's a difference between SM7B and SM7dB, not whether it's a good value

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seriously shut the fuck up Klaus

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you see SM7B and you forget to read

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I'm saying what the SM7B is, not what I think it should be

warm scarab
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isn't latter literally the same mic but with some preamp shit to boost volume

haughty girder
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it's a SM57 capsule shoved into a bigger body with filters

haughty girder
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that's all it is

iron cipher
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i mean even tho those mic seems good thy are like stage mic

warm scarab
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yeah and the dude was totally not planning on buying either

haughty girder
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SM7dB is the same thing but with a cloudlifter built in

warm scarab
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he was asking it for his uhh homework

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so to inform him its a shit purchase is totally unrealistic

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this is also the reason he is defending its a good mic despite not owning it

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totally not a person intending on purchasing it bro fr fr ong

haughty girder
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yet again

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jumping to conclusions

iron cipher
warm scarab
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@iron cipher enlighten us please

haughty girder
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How fucking dense can you be

warm scarab
iron cipher
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and i'm thinking on probably buying it

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i'm not sure

warm scarab
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@haughty girder it is not my fault you are unable to pick up on social cues nextgen

iron cipher
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but i'm thinking about it

haughty girder
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If that's what he wants let him have it, you don't need to be a prick about someone's purchase decision

warm scarab
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sorry for trying to save you several hundred dollars @iron cipher

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serious apologies on this one

iron cipher
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i mean some people buy mercedes where under the hood there is a renault engine

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i think that's fucking shit

haughty girder
iron cipher
warm scarab
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it is just a mid capsule in a nice looking chasis that has the ability to not respond to treble properly, be insensitive as fuck and handle noise sort of well ngl

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yeah 400$, nah

errant wharf
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The thing is the engine isnt the whole car. There are many other luxuries on the Mercedes.

haughty girder
warm scarab
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anyhow seven I advise you glimpse at the video I sent

haughty girder
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it's fine

warm scarab
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it should inform you on how much of a "difference" you can expect by paying 380$ for a microphone

haughty girder
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lemme find it rq

iron cipher
iron cipher
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it's a nice looking one

warm scarab
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you are going to pay that much for a chassis?

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  • cloudlifter
iron cipher
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when u take a look at what u guys advise me it seems like a great mic but like the chassis look like something that is used for the stage, and my mic is going on a desk

haughty girder
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Given XM8500 is a great SM58 knockoff, and SM57 is the same capsule as SM58, you could deduce that if you put an XM8500 into a broadcast style housing you'd get the behringer equivalent of an SM7B

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lmfao

iron cipher
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who said that i'm spending 400$ on a chassis m8

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again

warm scarab
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how much

haughty girder
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He wants a broadcast style mic

iron cipher
haughty girder
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If you want to build one, follow the guide I sent up there

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if you want to buy one, get a Samson Q9U

iron cipher
warm scarab
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110$ more than the xm8500

haughty girder
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is that used?

iron cipher
haughty girder
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Seems like a scam

warm scarab
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and you are also paying 120$ for a cloudlifter no?

haughty girder
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SM7B never goes on that big of the sale

iron cipher
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it's not for everyone

warm scarab
iron cipher
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like

haughty girder
haughty girder
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it's popularity means it never goes that low

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unless it's used

iron cipher
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I have a special offer of 200 or so euros on the purchase of my next product from an audio retailer

warm scarab
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cheapest fethead i can find is like 70$

warm scarab
iron cipher
iron cipher
warm scarab
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the difference between a 20$ mic and a 10k mic is very negligible as long as it isn't like a surround capture or for music

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or have tubes in it

haughty girder
warm scarab
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which I dislike tube mics

iron cipher
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i've got some cool speaker and a cool headset and stuff

haughty girder
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well not quite a "fethead" but the same thing

warm scarab
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dont post them here or next ill bitch about those

iron cipher
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just my mic is getting old, it's a bird UM1 which in more than 6 years of use has never been turned off

haughty girder
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it's another Neewer NW700 rebrand

iron cipher
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cuz of the usb hub that i've got

haughty girder
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those will last forever bud

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nvm it's usb

warm scarab
iron cipher
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yeah it's usb

warm scarab
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now we got bm800

haughty girder
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so NW800

iron cipher
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and i mean it's great but it's start to get old

haughty girder
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yea same thing

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they're all the same thing lmao

warm scarab
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its totally different

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one is called nw800

iron cipher
warm scarab
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other is bm800

haughty girder
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wow

warm scarab
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also who the fuck makes these seriously

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why are there a trillion of them

iron cipher
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but yeah it never has been turned off since i've bought it in 2016

haughty girder
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uh

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it's a chinese oem

warm scarab
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so they just take it and put it in a chasis

iron cipher
warm scarab
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i had imagined the chasis is also in the chinese pack

iron cipher
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and so i want to change

haughty girder
# warm scarab so they just take it and put it in a chasis
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no

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they just take the thing and rebadge it

warm scarab
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sounds like an opportunity

haughty girder
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Sure

warm scarab
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unironically

haughty girder
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Neewer just happens to be the early ones

warm scarab
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put that shit in an sm7b chasis

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add rgb maybe

haughty girder
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Sounds a lot like fifine

iron cipher
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-_-

warm scarab
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fifine one sounds like shit tho

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doesn't it

haughty girder
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They're all like that

warm scarab
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some bm800 variants actually sound pretty good

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not good good but like, they sound like any other not shit condenser

haughty girder
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idk I've been using an AT2020 before any better options existed

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Though my fav mic is sitll the Senn E865

warm scarab
haughty girder
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Sounds so good

warm scarab
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never heard it

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i heard the neumann mic that costs like 50k though

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it sounds like ass

haughty girder
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LMAO

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YEA

warm scarab
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like unironically

haughty girder
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U87 AND U47 LITERAL SCAMS

warm scarab
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who the fuck deemed this 50k lmao

iron cipher
warm scarab
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that's related to the preamps in the mic not the usb

haughty girder
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there's gotta be one more I don't remember

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anyways

iron cipher
warm scarab
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that's odd

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it should just be working or not working generally

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half working is not something usb tends to do

haughty girder
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I will say there's some pretty good U87 knockoffs

warm scarab
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maybe but why would i want one

haughty girder
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WA87 at I think 700? Sounds better than the real U87

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imo

warm scarab
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im not even joking id take like a well EQd 2020 over the u87

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for the sound, not for the money

haughty girder
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yea

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I would too

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I don't actually like the 2020

warm scarab
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same i just dislike the u87 even more

haughty girder
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but it's more than enough for discord calls and meetings

warm scarab
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its alright

haughty girder
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so I never bothered switching it

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it's harsh in the treble

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that's the main issue imo

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but yea

warm scarab
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it covers most of the vocal range well enough with the exception of sub bass

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which isn't important anyways

haughty girder
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U87 is just

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bruh

warm scarab
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yeah it sounds like a distorted piece of shit

iron cipher
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anyway

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any other mic to advise me in like a podcast style ?

haughty girder
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build your own with an XM8500

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or Q9u with the filters on

iron cipher
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and where can i get a good chassis ?

haughty girder
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Aliexpress?

iron cipher
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cuz u said build one

haughty girder
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Ebay?

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Amazon probably too for a markup

iron cipher
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i've never done such stuff

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i mean i've built my own pc

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but like a mic

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it's some other kind of stuff

warm scarab
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shouldn't be too complex

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mics are surpisingly simple

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given you aren't engineering the capsule and pcb from scratch

haughty girder
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yea

iron cipher
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LMAO i hope so !

haughty girder
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I mean even that isn't too hard actually

warm scarab
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yeah

iron cipher
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bruh

warm scarab
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just difficult to make it sound good

haughty girder
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yep

warm scarab
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anything is a mic with high enough gain

haughty girder
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For mics it's basically just a Magnet and a coil

iron cipher
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and how about building my own wireless mic ?

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i mean there is some sm58 ?

warm scarab
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i don't know how wireless shit works

haughty girder
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SM58 you can grab the wireless handle and capsule stuff

iron cipher
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me too

haughty girder
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you can either use RF or digital but I don't recommend doing it

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just buy a pre-set solution

warm scarab
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it would be difficult i think because of interference

haughty girder
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bc if you accidently broadcast into a restricted band you could legit get arrested

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lmfao

warm scarab
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ive my doubts you can broadcast that much with a mic

haughty girder
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you can

warm scarab
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using an rf antenna

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bruh

haughty girder
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it's actually kinda funny

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the restrictions got more strict and some of our ancient wireless systems were no longer allowed to be used

iron cipher
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ah yeah but nah

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i can't build my own

haughty girder
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then Q9U it is

iron cipher
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like i've said that's some credit / point / $ that i've got on a retailer

haughty girder
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sigh

iron cipher
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imma check it then

haughty girder
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wait ykw

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if you really want a broadcast mic that's expensive

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get at least an RE20

warm scarab
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what about that bee mic

haughty girder
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Neat King Bee is condenser

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I don't trust people to use them in a way that actually sounds good

warm scarab
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can't be that difficult

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you just have to lower gain

haughty girder
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for one you need a sound treated space

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nono

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people get lazy with mic technique

iron cipher
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and how about like

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Telefunken U-47

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is it a great mic ?

haughty girder
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wtf

iron cipher
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lmao

warm scarab
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sm7b is better

haughty girder
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nono Telefunken U47 is ok

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actually

iron cipher
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lmao

haughty girder
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it's a good knockoff like the WA87 to the U87

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but

iron cipher
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idk i've saw that's the one used on colors video

haughty girder
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it's a condenser and you're gonna have a bad time in a not treated room

warm scarab
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this actually sounds alright

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color me surprised

iron cipher
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11k$ for a mic that sound "aright" ?

warm scarab
#

welcome to microphones

iron cipher
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lmfao

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i've never understood the mic game

warm scarab
#

its not like you need to spend 10k to get a good mic

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its just that a mic that's 10k isn't going to necessarily sound better than a 100$ one

#

just different

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i mean there are better mics you can buy for 10k generally but good mics remain good regardless of price

haughty girder
#

I also just found something

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Some mics like SM7B are widely used for VO work because it's very smooth

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makes a lot more sense now

iron cipher
#

and btw what do u think of the fact that the sm7b was used to record thriller ? is it some bs or it's really the case ?

haughty girder
#

where you don't want a lot of those macrodetails in the voice

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Billie Eyelash also started with an AT2020

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literally doesn't matter.

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Sm7B used for thriller? cool.

iron cipher
haughty girder
#

wait

warm scarab
#

maybe who knows

haughty girder
#

SM7 was 1999

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Thriller was before that no?

warm scarab
#

was it?

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yeah it was

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1982

haughty girder
#

what the shit

warm scarab
#

didn't realize michael jackson songs were this old

iron cipher
haughty girder
#

Oh

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SM7A was 1999

warm scarab
#

sm7 was 1973

haughty girder
#

SM7 was before that

#

nvm that makes sense

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And while it does a good job of masking a poor recording environment

#

that

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makes a lot of sense too

#

streamers be talking to the side of SM7Bs

lean grove
#

Damn I didn't know Klaus was a Shure Stan

haughty girder
#

LMAO

#

TL;DR most of the differences are in the chassis and pcb

acoustic osprey
#

Is the dt 990 pro worth for 130 bucks

#

I mainly will use it for gaming and listening music

lean grove
acoustic osprey
#

Or does it really not matter

acoustic osprey
#

Thy

lean grove
#

But I would try them with your onboard audio first

#

If you have volume issues, hear hissing or things sound fuzzy, then that's a good sign you need an amp

acoustic osprey
lean grove
#

Yeah. The 560s are really easy to power

acoustic osprey
#

Ok is there qny other amplifier you would recommend?

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Its not available in my region

acoustic osprey
lean grove
#

Uhhh.... If you can't get the fosi ds1 then idk what else to recommend

acoustic osprey
#

Ill do some research then

lean grove
#

Schiit unity with the built-in DAC but schiit is even more limited than the fosi

acoustic osprey
#

But thy for the recommendations

lean grove
#

Ifi zen DAC would be another one to look at

acoustic osprey
#

๐Ÿ‘

warm scarab
#

hd560s from onboard is pretty alright

elder thistle
#

but they are pretty balanced sounding

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and wide

#

I can recommend the hiby fc1 if you want something with a little extra power. it does have a volume fade-in when unpausing some music players

#

if you want something with perceptibly the same sound quality, jsaux and koopao are two brands that I've bought cheap ($8) dongle dac's from and they work perfectly

#

I use them all the time on my hd600, ndh20, and mc450 whenever I go somewhere and still need transparent audio quality for things like music production or just audiophile and gaming stuff

agile moon
#

Who do I gotta contact to get them to follow the instructions?

lean grove
#

find the other dude that isnt linus on twitter?

#

ive been able to reach ltt staff that way before

agile moon
#

I need to make a Twitter

lean grove
# agile moon I need to make a Twitter

make a post on reddit too. if you mention that LTT hasn't changed since the last bout of drama, that their ineptitude is still harming small business, i bet you'd get a lot of traction

agile moon
#

That's smart

tepid torrent
#

I think his name is sam?

frosty ocean
#

im trying to imagine a scenario where somone has a hearing aid in their ear enough to hear it, and inserts a battery...

spice dust
#

you cant reach him rn about ltt releated business

mystic spade
#

The lining and foam are detaching on my k371s. What can I do about this?

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The store I got them from won't accept a return due to health and safety requirements

#

I can't seem to push back the lining into the gap

haughty girder
#

check if the pad is broken or the foam slipped out

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the earpad is a hard disk (lines the edge of the mesh) and the foam with pleather wrapped around it

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If the pad isn't broken you'll need to pull the entire thing off and put the liner back over

mystic spade
#

Yeah it's just this lining has come loose I think

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I cannot push it back into it's crevice

haughty girder
#

Yea if the foam slipped out it means the liner has either torn off or has slipped over the foam

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which means you have to take the earpad off

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I recommend doing it by pulling the top or bottom and out

mystic spade
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so the liner of the ear pad broke

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is that right?

haughty girder
#

You wanna pull it off and send a picture?

mystic spade
#

But what if I cannot get it back on

haughty girder
#

dw you'll be able to

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It's about slipping one side in, pulling on it (relies on the liner being slightly flexible) and putting the other side back on

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do note where the seam is on the earpad

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normally it's at the bottom

mystic spade
#

nah I don't like that

haughty girder
#

alr then

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How about this

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put your finger between the pleather and foam

mystic spade
haughty girder
#

oh damn that's broken

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can't fix that

mystic spade
#

fucks sake

haughty girder
#

you could pull it out and glue the edging back on but if not then you need a replacement

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that pad doesn't even look worn

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unlucky

mystic spade
#

The store I bought it from doesn't accept returns for headphones

haughty girder
#

it's not a return

mystic spade
haughty girder
#

it's an RMA

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oh rip

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they have 1 year warranty iirc

mystic spade
#

I checked the warranty card, the RMA service is only for USA and Canada, I'm from New Zealand

#

Glue or epoxy is probably my only option now

#

They still sound really good, are replacement earpads an option maybe?

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@haughty girder Do I just do either of those at this point?

haughty girder
#

replacement earpads are definitely an option

mystic spade
#

I'll get a pair on back order, and if it worsens, I'll get some epoxy on it in the interim

#

What a crock of shit this situation is

haughty girder
#

it's hella unlucky

#

I've had my K361 for 3 years now

#

the pads just starting to crack

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And those things have gone througgh hell

mystic spade
#

I feel a bit cheated

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Hopefully I can make the pads servicable until replacements arrive. Might let it ride and only add glue or tape if it completely comes off

haughty girder
#

Did the earpad get caught on something?

mystic spade
#

I don't think so

haughty girder
#

The most my earpads had gone through was like 20 cycles of 20C and -35C when I wore them outside as earmuffs

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and being dropped a million times as well but yk

mystic spade
#

When I finish using them I put them on this mahogany headphone stand

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So I am gentle with these

haughty girder
#

damn

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I toss them around

mystic spade
#

The left earpad has no damages

haughty girder
#

I don't even use the bag it came with

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when Its not in use it's on my desk, in a drawer or on the floor

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...

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unlucky tbh

mystic spade
#

Yeah it's shit

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I might just do electrical tape or something black to keep the colour and leave easy to remove residue

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but again, only when it's completely coming off

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@haughty girder Or do I do it now and protect what is currently there?

haughty girder
#

I've never tried that

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so I can't really recommend anything here

mystic spade
#

I'll just let it be then

#

But order replacement pads

haughty girder
#

do note that replacement pads can change sound

#

though the first pads that were in that search result seemed very similar to the oem ones

#

so it should be fine

mystic spade
#

yeah I just picked the first one

#

Noise cancelling effect is a bit worse, but for NZD$10, it'll do

#

Ideally this should've have happened in the first place

#

Cause this is a premium good product

#

And sounds great

left cypress
#

Hey guys I got a couple questions about headphone amps and dacs n shit, first off if I get a balanced amp and dac but donโ€™t currently have balanced headphone cables will they still work, second thing with the a70pro and d70pro can I plug my studio monitors (which are externally powered) into this amp/dac system and easily switch between my headphones and monitors

#

As for inputs on my monitors I have an xlr input and a line input

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They are the M-audio BX8โ€™s

elder thistle
#

that's what I would do anyways

mystic spade
mystic spade
elder thistle
#

oh idk about electrical tape

#

first thing I would try that I have on hand is emblem adhesive

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since it's flexible

#

but I don't think flexibility for the outer side of the pad is important

#

whatever you use though will have to be made of a lot of fluid, not just a couple dots of superglue

#

because the foam does not offer a lot to grab onto

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of course, don't soak it either

#

you could use tape as a clamp of sorts to hold the leather in place while the adhesive dries

#

very sticky tape

tight prairie
#

Which adapter should I get to plug Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 speakers into a Muto M2? It's currently connected via 3.5mm jack directly into my PC but I'd like to be able to control the audio level from the M2.

haughty girder
#

the pads crush a LOT

elder thistle
#

o

topaz cedar
#

Does anyone know if a 90 degree Mini-XLR adapter exists? I got the Beyerdynamic 700 Pro X last week and the jack jabs me in the shoulder a lot...

fresh basalt
warm scarab
#

you are going to stress the hell out of the cable with a 90ยฐ connector probably

terse falcon
#

Anyone has thoughts on the sony XM5s?

supple robin
#

bad sound but i presume good anc

#

i dont know if i tried the xm5's or the 4's but either way the sound was bad

supple robin
# topaz cedar Does anyone know if a 90 degree Mini-XLR adapter exists? I got the Beyerdynamic ...
#

personally i'd return them and go for k361/k371 but that me

fossil zinc
#

Kinda looking to build a sub box into my headboard of the bed so I can have some near field bass response that doesnโ€™t bug the family I was thinking a fourth order style box slot loaded I kinda want it to be hidden not shown
Kinda only need about 25-60 htz my Klipsch 600m iiโ€™s can pick up the rest
Mostly for music but some gaming and streaming movies
And advice on box designs I want to keep it to a 8โ€ sub max

lean grove
fossil zinc
#

I have to sub and amp already just need a box plan

#

Or idea

#

I can figure out the math

#

Just need something that doesnโ€™t destroy detail

spark egret
#

yall is JLab Audio Talk pro any good?

#

or is there any good budget one

#

like 50-60 euros hopefully

haughty girder
haughty girder
steel escarp
#

the hifiman he1000 stealth no longer sounds sibilant to me

#

I guess the driver must have burnt in

lean grove
#

i dont think it was the driver that burnt in

steel escarp
river hemlock
#

Looking to get some potentially desktop speakers (usually just use headphones and the speakers on my monitor is solid when I use them but might as well round out my setup). Was thinking of maybe a budget of around 300$ but not quite sure what that will get me, any recommendations?

lean grove
river hemlock
#

will do, thanks!

spark egret
#

Hey

#

Is fifine k669 good?

#

I wanna buy it and ill probably just use it for talking w my friemds

deep raven
spark egret
spark egret
deep raven
#

you can probably just use nvidia broadcast

spark egret
#

No

#

I have amd

#

Amd does have background suppresion but its shit

#

Or idk how to use it

deep raven
#

unless you're using in-game chat or something

spark egret
#

Messanger

#

Messenger*

#

Its not that important even

#

Is it best at that price?

#

Also sorry for alot of questions, ion wanna make a bad choice

deep raven
#

its on sale at amazon for $24

#

there may be better if u want to spend a bit more

#

theres the hyperx solocast

#

or seiren mini

haughty girder
#

Solocast is meh

spark egret
haughty girder
#

Seiren mini is shockingly good for its price

#

Fifine is alright, avoid K669 if it's not significantly cheaper than Seiren mini

#

T669 comes with a arm which is pretty important for any mic

haughty girder
#

Oh so like half the price

#

xd

#

thing with K669 is that it doesn't really block out background noise well

#

it's very sensitive

spark egret
#

What about wmt one?

haughty girder
#

Seiren mini is better

spark egret
#

Or any alternatives

deep raven
haughty girder
#

Avoid

#

IMO if it's not K669/T669 then get Seiren mini, Samson Q2U or Audio Technica ATR2100x

spark egret
#

What bout this maono one?

haughty girder
#

yea avoid it

spark egret
#

Why

#

Whixh one do i get then?

haughty girder
#

What's your budget

spark egret
#

Maybe up to 60 but ion wanna

#

This one seems slr

#

Ignore shipping price, my friend will get shipping for free

haughty girder
#

I've never encountered that one

#

it might be ok

spark egret
#

Might

#

Idk

haughty girder
#

but anything with RGB in my experience has had issues with interference

spark egret
#

I know

#

Thos

#

This

haughty girder
#

IMO the best thing to get is anything that comes with a mic arm

#

mounted to the side of your desk

spark egret
#

I want tripod

#

Specifically

#

Or that its on my desk

#

Not boom arm

haughty girder
#

then it doesn't matter what you get bc your SNR will be low

#

and background noise gonna be an issue

spark egret
#

Snr?

#

Blud what do i get

#

I wan mute button hopefully

#

And that it looks nice

spark egret
#

Actually not even s bit is alr for that budget

left cypress
#

Whatโ€™s the difference between the topping d70pro octo and sabre?

elder thistle
#

I like the vegue vm50 more than the sirien mini

#

it's a little darker but the treble is not cheesed

#

also comes with an actually usable desk stand

#

the proximity effect is also really nice, so is the build quality

#

I bought it when it was $60 and still thought it was pretty good

spark egret
#

Lopks really nice

#

How is the sound?

elder thistle
#

I'll try to find some recorded audio

spark egret
#

Hm

#

Alr

#

Ill check it out

elder thistle
#

but like I said it's darker, meaning the treble is slightly below neutral

spark egret
#

Idk

#

What it means

#

Sorry im pretty dumv

elder thistle
#

woah I actually found it

spark egret
#

atleast for me

elder thistle
#

yee

spark egret
elder thistle
#

well that's what I like anyways

#

also I was probably ~8 inches away when recording that, to get some of the room sounds out of the recording

#

if you're 2 feet away you'll have a little more echo, as is normal for cardioid mics

#

but still

spark egret
#

damn

#

idk how tall is it

#

i guess i can lower my chair down

#

yeah i think its gonna be alr in size

#

bro is that this mic?

elder thistle
#

if I had to guess based on what I remember, maybe 9 inches

#

ye

#

I gave it to my sister since I already have an xlr mic

spark egret
elder thistle
#

indeed

spark egret
#

how is the rgb verision

#

honestly rgb version looks kinda bad

elder thistle
#

I think the rgb one historically was called the vm30

spark egret
#

is there any cons?

elder thistle
#

the model down

spark egret
elder thistle
#

vm30 used to be 40 or 50 bucks

#

vm50 was always $60

spark egret
#

why so cheap now

elder thistle
#

guess people just weren't buying it enough

#

vegue is not what I'd call a brand most people have heard of

spark egret
#

never heard of it

elder thistle
#

weird name choice too

spark egret
#

the mute button is really nice, it even shows when ur muted

spark egret
elder thistle
#

only con I can really think of is that the treble isn't as pronounced as it is on some other mics

spark egret
#

wym

elder thistle
#

I kinda like the style of sound the sirien mini and a lot of razer mics provide for voice chat in games because the extra treble makes your voice easier to hear over the game audio

#

but it's not that drastic of a difference either

#

I mean you can still hear when I make S and t and p sounds in that recording

#

oh and that it's not xlr

spark egret
#

bro

elder thistle
#

which isn't a con for most people but for me it got annoying within fl studio

spark egret
#

ion need some crazy mic

#

ill just talk to my friends

elder thistle
#

ye

#

well it's great for that

spark egret
#

i dont like how it picks up alot of background noise

elder thistle
#

just as much as any other condenser mic when more than a couple feet away

spark egret
#

will it pick up alot of keyboard noise

#

i have em red mechanical switches so they arent really that loud

elder thistle
#

some of it, but it won't be as loud or distracting as most mics

#

that's one of the good things about slightly less treble

#

uh just to show you what I mean, I'll go and boost the treble in that recording

spark egret
#

can i maybe put something behind it to make it less noisy

#

like on here i put something

elder thistle
cold jacinth
#

i have some pritty good speakers, but my amp is shit. (got everything for free or it whould have ended up in the dump) any recomandation for a pair of stuifo monitors. i am a student so budet is somwhat limited. hope under 300 dollar or so.

spark egret
elder thistle
#

yes but that's the same recording but with more treble

#

if you play them side by side, you'll hear the difference

#

as for room noise and typing, I can show you what my at2020 mic does at least

elder thistle
#

which will pick up my keyboard a little more than normal

spark egret
elder thistle
#

yes but it abides to the same physics

spark egret
#

i think ill get the begue vm50

#

i mean how much background nois can it pick up?

#

not alot surely?

#

yo @elder thistle how would you compare that vegue vm50 with fifine k669

#

also sorry for ping

elder thistle
#

as demonstrated here (this is my at2020), it still sounds pretty normal at 2 feet but deteriorates a lot when I'm past that like 6 feet away

#

so as long as it's on your table somewhere not past your screen, you'll be ok

#

I haven't tried the k669

spark egret
#

thank you for the demo ๐Ÿ˜„

spark egret
spark egret
elder thistle
#

just trying to use pc screens as a reference for how far away something is

#

maybe that's not a good reference

#

I have a 32" monitor I'm 2-3 feet from

spark egret
#

oh alr

#

there is discount rn

#

on amazon

#

but idk how long does it last

spark egret
#

Anyways thanks for all the help and recommendation!

#

I appriciate it

elder thistle
#

np

bleak tinsel
#

I got the Sony WH CH 520 for like 30 euros

dull rover
#

weird question but I have the WH CH 720s and was wondering if on non bt powered devices when still powered on will the headphones internal DAC be doing anything? or will it just boost the strength

lean grove
dull rover
#

When powered off I can tell that they seem to be not getting enough power to the drivers

lean grove
dull rover
#

Yeah im not too well versed when it comes to "audiophile" stuff, Im just trying to understand this what is black magic to me haha

dense ermine
#

is dekoni the only option for trying out leather earcups for my dt 700 pro x's

#

and are they any good

lean grove
# dense ermine and are they any good

typically when you change the pads, you really change the tuning in an unintended way. for best results you should stick with the default pads unless you know for a fact they're gonna be an improvement.

dense ermine
#

๐Ÿค”

#

maybe i just buy new oem ones then

zinc rain
#

Are sound cards (PCIe) a meme or are they actually better than onboard audio?

fluid coyote
#

Does anyone here have the Sony WH-1000XM5's?
I am curious about how they are built.
Is the adjustment mechanism Plastic, or Metal?

#

I'm looking at upgrading my XM3's, but I din't know if I should go with XM4's or XM5's. I want something durable, but with the best noise canceling. (An I am and android user, so No to the airpod max's)

lean grove
#

So, you might be upgrading the audio hardware but you're throwing problems at the DAC that don't need to be there. Really you want your audio as far away from your PC as reasonably possible since it's a mess of electromagnetic interference and noisy power.

white gate
spark egret
#

@elder thistle i aint getting that microphone u recommended... ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

acoustic osprey
#

Which one for music

#

The right one is on sale for 70bucks the left one for 99

#

Or any other recommendations

#

Or these

nova wagon
acoustic osprey
#

The sony wh 1000 or the ch720n

#

Not looking at the price

nova wagon
#

ch720n tbh

acoustic osprey
#

Ok

zinc rain
lean grove
zinc rain
#

I see I see

#

Thanks guys

warm scarab
#

but you don't want pcie in any case

zinc rain
#

Iโ€™m happy with my current headphones but I know myself, and Iโ€™ll end up with like HD600s eventually lmao

warm scarab
#

I'd recommend going to a hifi shop when stepping up

#

I personally dislike hd600 and love the xs

#

nils is vice versa

#

I recommend trying things for yourself with a proper amp before concluding

supple robin
supple robin
unique wind
#

brain burn go crazy

elder thistle
#

did something happen?

spark egret
#

Its not avaliable in my country

elder thistle
#

f

#

yeah budget equipment fluctuates a lot in price (and availability) depending on the country

#

sorry, I should've asked first

haughty girder
#

No he should've clarified

#

He sent multiple screenshots of Amazon.com and was asking in USD

#

It's a fair assumption that he's in the states, even though he isn't

spark egret
spark egret
spark egret
#

but that feels kinda lame for me

#

idk

haughty girder
#

Ohhh

tiny zealot
#

I received the pc37x earlier today and I'm a bit disappointed with them ngl
The sound is definitely an improvement to what I was using but the clamp is so tight as well as the foam being very hard that I don't think I'll be holding on to them for very long

elder thistle
#

fair enough

#

if you wish to try it, you can stretch them over the box overnight. that usually reduces the clamp force

#

somewhat standard procedure for sennheisers

lean grove
dull rover
#

Can you find those AKG Samsung buds that came with the S8 still? Not that they were the best, I just loved how they felt in the ears

lean pasture
#

Thoughts on the setup. For only about $300 btw

haughty girder
#

you can stretch them out but placing them on a box overnight or something similar

surreal veldt
#

guys should i get arctis nova 7 for 150 eur or hyperx III wireless for 165 eur

supple robin
surreal veldt
#

i mean i want the cheapest option

#

if headphone + studio microphone combo is cheaper

#

then i go for that

#

but if the all in one is cheaper

#

i go for that

#

i basically want the best value for my money

#

@supple robin

supple robin
#

alright

#

you could go for k371/k361 and a fifine usb mic

supple robin
#

cheaper and you'd get better sound

surreal veldt
#

honestly i cant choose any other headset

#

i tested like 40 different headsets and only 3 of them were comfortable enough for me

#

razer barracuda or something
steelseries arctis nova 7
hyperx III wireless

#

but im skipping on the razer one

supple robin
#

yeah k371/k361

#

would be the best sound, gaming headsets, other than like 1-2 maybe more sound crap usually

surreal veldt
#

i cant find any place to test them tho

supple robin
#

that's not ideal, maybe wait for other reponses/

surreal veldt
#

alright

supple robin
paper loom
#

Is the k361/K371 really just the best closed back all around headphones rn? Can anyone comment on the comfort? They don't seem super comfy from pictures (coming from HD600)
Also what are the major differences?

haughty moon
#

yes they are the best closed back for their price point

lost wigeon
#

anybody here have experience with sterling mx-8's? i've found a pair for $150-ish and was wondering how they'd do for casual production

supple robin
#

you may need to rotate cups to get the headpphone right.

#

audeze maxwell may be more comfortable but thats significantly more (but you get more in features)

paper loom
left cypress
#

Is there a company that makes cables similar to this

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Just like 2m long

granite summit
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I want these sooo badly

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Itโ€™d be funny to my my rf15โ€™s next to that r800f

molten holly
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Canโ€™t think of a better place to ask Iโ€™m looking for a sound bar for my tv thatโ€™s $75 usd or less what the best options
Needs to be Amazon

craggy pollen
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Guys, i have a 20 year old 7.2 receiver, but is it worth getting a 5.1 newer receiver because of hdmi and the newer technology?

elder thistle
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don't expect them to be anywhere near the hd600 in general sound quality, particularly in instrument separation

haughty girder
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for larger ears the hard baffle directly contacts the ear

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which you'd want to place a foam at the top to cushion ur ear

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K371 has a pleather covered headband, metal yokes, a more advanced hinge, minixlr and a more modern sound signature

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K361 is all plastic headband, plastic yokes, a much simpler hinge (3 steps rather than like, 12), a proprietary locking 2.5mm connector, and a brighter sound signature that I prefer over the 371

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oh and 371 has higher clamping pressure than 361

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but they are indeed the closed back champs

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hd600 is more comfy unless you have really angled ears, which the earcup swivel on 600 is more of an afterthought rather than k361/371's very dynamic yoke earcup swivel

teal fern
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hello i bought a pair of dt770 pros, but i find that the bass isnt as loud(rich?) as id expected (after having used creative aurvana live) how do i adjust it to sound more like that properly?

noble sorrel
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never buy a focusrite audio interface

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randomly crackles, i assume it's an out of sync issue

coarse pike
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https://www.amazon.com.au/AKG-K612PRO-Reference-Studio-Headphone/dp/B00DCXZY1W?th=1 looking at these, what amp should i get thats pretty cheap but gets the job done

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cause i doubt my motherboard/front io will power 120 ohm

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going off of here, $250 aud is a pretty good price

elder thistle
coarse pike
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not too loud i guess

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i can run it off the pc

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i want a rec so worst case if its too quiet i can still use it while i wait for an amp

elder thistle
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srh840 was my first pair of good headphones back in 2014

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however the original srh440 and 840 are plagued with the hinges breaking

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I wouldn't trust teir lists like that though

coarse pike
elder thistle
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you could be being sold on a k612 with the expectation of recording or positional audio for games