audio-tech

[steel crown]

I've been looking x_x

They're all huge, lol

I dunno if there's a term for it. But like...a wide but narrow shelf with legs. Something I could put at the end of the bed.

Feel like something like this would work, but sadly, it's TOO wide.

.....I can't help but wonder if an ikea box shelf would work. Just turn it on its side, lol

Would prefer it more narrow though. Doesn't have to be THAT wide to fit a soundbar on, lol

Huh.

Well least I have an option now, lol

Yeah, not really an Ikea around me either. Would have to hope they can ship it at a reasonable price

[elder thistle]

I don't know about the layout side of things, but for the tv you could have a hardware compressor and a pair of directional speakers

that's what I do at least. the compressor automatically throttles the volume down when audio gets louder than a certain point. there are settings on a compressor that allow it to sound better depending on the signal

but sounds will still be needlessly quiet and loud

reducing the dynamic range is a net win when there's other people trying to listen to their own stuff

that doesn't mean destroy the dynamic range

also in this use case it would not destroy dynamics as you may currently understand

something like a 10ms attack time would allow sounds to remain transient without them becoming overly loud

[steel crown]

Way I see it, speaker closer means I still get high and low dynamics, but overall volume is lower.

[errant wharf]

I didn't even consider behringer, those seem decent

[elder thistle]

idk, soundbar being close is probably fine

but I'm saying a compressor would further improve the experience

having a lower amount of dynamic range means one person's audio never overpowers another

when there's an explosion sound while the other person's listening to someone whispering, someone loses

a compressor controls how much they lose

well anyways

I'm not saying he should buy it right away

just that I think it'll still be useful and the current solution is still halfassed without it

loudness management like this is not complete without control of dynamic range

[steel crown]

Well right now I've got my PC speakers fighting against TV built-in speakers. It's like having two people talk to you at once.

[elder thistle]

ye

[steel crown]

And that's even during just normal dialogue. No action or car chases/explosions

People start going crazy on TV and I'm having a calm conversation in-game and it's easy to lose focus.

[elder thistle]

on the computer you'd be able to use a software compressor which is free

[steel crown]

But if things calm down on the TV, and she turns the volume up, not only is it loud enough to fill the room and bleed through the door, next scene could be very loud

If I had a speaker right near the bed, she could have it at a steady volume, hear the highs and lows without a compressor, and it'd be away from me. I'd be fine to focus on my game. Also wouldn't be so loud as to fill the room and disturb others

[granite summit]

Can I get someone’s opinion on something

I’m not sure if I should look for a tube amp or solid state

[dry meteor]

Huh

[granite summit]

He-x4

I know people shit on them

But they’re good enough

[granite summit]

It’s not

[elder thistle]

he400se caused current overload on my motu m4's headphone jack

wasn't even crazy loud

that's a tough load

it killed one of my dongles

dude it needs an amp

hiby fc1 with test tone

better than average one

[granite summit]

Only things that don’t struggle to run them are my dac-x6 on high gain, and my pioneer vsx 1019ah-k

[pliant sierra]

how do i fix

[glad creek]

Is there a big difference between a sonos ray and a sonos beam gen 2 ?

[simple crane]

So I feel dumb and I’m also confused lol. My tv has been running in bitstream to allow Dolby Digital. Some movies were quiet as anything and I’d need to turn my system way up. I switched my tv to PCM and it’s way louder now and sounds way more detailed in every way. Even my surround running thru my denon AVR sounds more accurate. Where I’m confused is that it’s decoding a stereo signal now to 5.1 so am I really losing those other channels?

[glad creek]

How is your avr connected to the tv

[simple crane]

Cuz as far as I understand the tv isn’t processing anything now and the receiver is but only in Dolby Pro Logic 2

Optical

It’s an older receiver I love so it has no hdmi sadly

[glad creek]

You don't have everything with optical and if it's old then it won't have a lot of decoding capabilities, your tv probably has more so if it's sending decoded PCM to the AVR it should be fine

PCM isn't stereo

It's like raw audio

You can have 6 channels pcm

[simple crane]

So the receiver does pro logic 2 like I said and Dolby digital (not sure the difference between those two) but it also has dts. There is the corresponding movie and music modes for each as well

The part I am trying to understand is why my ears tell me it sounds better but settings and the screen suggest there’s only stereo. I just don’t wanna be missing any of the surround mix. I’ve played stuff in both and the channels are way more defined running pcm with pro logic 2 while Dolby digital with bitstream sounds sloppy and stretched

This is my first time with this setup ever hearing proper imaging of surround objects

[glad creek]

it may be multichannel stereo

Try a 5.1 test file

[simple crane]

Aren’t there some on YouTube cuz those identified each speaker no problem

[glad creek]

i don't know about youtube

[simple crane]

Oh wait nvm it doesn’t so it is a stereo multichannel and I actually see multichannel right on the screen

But when in Dolby it does show input is 5.1 and it does full surround

[glad creek]

multichannel is okay, stereo multichannel less

btw stereo multichannel is cool for music

[simple crane]

Yes I figured that one out pretty fast music sounded way better so ig I’ll just fiddle with my settings when I wanna go from movies to music

I’ve done multichannel for music before but switching out of bitstream uncompressed it so much more

Wish the tv had a quicker way to switch the signal but whatever. I’m just happy I figured this out instead of maybe never knowing.

[glad creek]

Yeah I don't use the TV as an input because TV are annoying for that

But the PC I use isn't that much better lmao, knowing what's being sent by video players on windows is really confusing ....

I recently installed the dolby atmos app and use kodi in video/audio passthrough mode, I hope it will work okay

[simple crane]

I wish Apple TV had an optical port cuz I’m just not ready to waste on a new avr when this one has been awesome

[glad creek]

apple tv ?

oh this box, yeah no one has this thing were I live

[simple crane]

I use Apple Music and PLEX on it for the FLAC I do have in it

[glad creek]

okay yeah

[simple crane]

I need to try my pc direct to the receiver tho that should be interesting

[glad creek]

That's what I do yeah

[simple crane]

Do u have a sound card?

[glad creek]

pc in hdmi => receiver => tv in hdmi

But I have a pretty recent and somewhat high end receiver (denon too)

So it can handle hdmi 2.1 (4k 120Hz) and all the decoding stuff blabla

[simple crane]

Same again tho I have no hdmi capability on this receiver

[glad creek]

In my case it's just super duper annoying to know what to set up in windows

For your case yeah you'd need a motherboard with optical out or a sound card

[simple crane]

This is the ancient one I’m using

[glad creek]

oh wow yeah it looks super ancient

2005-2010 ?

[simple crane]

But it was very good for its time

[glad creek]

I guess so yeah

[simple crane]

It’s from 2005 I think

[glad creek]

It honestly wouldn't be expensive to replace it by something better and new nowadays :p

But as long as it works ...

I need to find a discord server about home theater stuff

[simple crane]

Grandpa had no use for it anymore and I grew up hearing it so regardless of speakers it’s signature sound is engrained into me

[glad creek]

Because this place is the only place I know of and most people here are about headphones

[simple crane]

This thing was like $3000 new back then I believe but I could be wildly off

[glad creek]

I wanna buy a sonos soundbar for my brother

Even if it's super bad urk, but he already has symphonisk stuff and need a sonos soundbar to connect them to the tv ... Also since it's a gift he will be happier and believe it's better with this that with any real audiophile stuff ...

But I don't know how to lose my money the best way, sonos beam gen 2 or sonos ray ...

[simple crane]

There’s an audiophiles discord but it’s heavily towards headphones still

[glad creek]

Oh yeah, stuff like analog amplification may still be okay but stuff like multichannels DACs (and obviously I/O and supported techs) are probably less godd than a cheap usb C dongle nowadays

But who cares

[simple crane]

Besides the overexposure lol this is what I got klipsch is my favorite but my center and surrounds are a JBL stage set that I rearranged

[glad creek]

it's a super thin center speaker wow

Which is great since your tv is so low compared to the furniture height

I have a friend that has multiple klipsch speakers

[simple crane]

Pretty deep tho

[glad creek]

But I own focal ones, i'm french and they are just super duper great for their price around here

[simple crane]

If I got the klipsch center I would have to get a different stand they’re absurdly tall

[glad creek]

I'm not sure 6 way speakers are the best thing to make ^^ But I guess that's the price to pay to have such a thin speaker

[glad creek]

yeah, my center speaker must be twice as thick

carpetting + mat, the sound must be pretty dampened

Which is better than lots of reverb and bounces

[simple crane]

The big pro and why I got the jbl stage set originally was just cuz the aluminum tweeter. Had no idea I’d have these towers at the time but bass wise it never seems to struggle with these little cones

[glad creek]

One thing newer AVRs do way better nowadays btw is room correction, if yours even has it

Don't you have a subwoofer ?

[simple crane]

Everything else is what’s pulling its weight tho anyhow. As for a sub I’m not using it anymore cuz I was at my mom’s before now I’m in an apartment so I gotta keep everything pretty stripped down. I used a Bose acustamass before and it’s LFE boost capability was insane things would fall over

Really jealous of the newer denon

And atleast u got a normal surround setup mine are offset due to a walkway behind the couch so ones like 3’ further than the other from the seating position

Anyways it was great talking to you and thanks for the help. It’s 2:30am for me rn and I gotta get up at 9 😂

[glad creek]

Oh yeah but you see there is a wall there, but where I took the photo there is an open space

Which really f'up the sound

And yes good night 🙂

[covert basin]

Would it be worth getting a new boom arm for my mic? I have a Rode Podmic which is very heavy and the boom arm makes the mic move when i do movements on my table

Currently im using a cheapo boom arm i found on amazon for under 20€ iirc

[errant wharf]

Edifier mr4s for $85 direct from edifier a good deal yes?

[warm scarab]

pretty good

[errant wharf]

I think that will be my next step. Upgrading from pebbles

[sullen cove]

hello ppl, i just recently bought the beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Studio Headphones - 80 Ohm, without realising i’ll need a amp for them 😳, what’s a solid reliable amp that won’t cost lots (uk please)

[errant wharf]

Do you need an amp? 80 ohm isn't super high. Do they have volume issues?

What are you using them on?

[buoyant vale]

they're super easy to drive, even the EU apple dongle gets them very loud

[errant wharf]

I was going to suggest the US dongle. Didn't realize EU was strong enough

[sullen cove]

i cant even get them in my pc 😭😭😭

[shell relic]

Why even bother when there's JBL LSR305 (6?)

[sullen cove]

the jack is too big for any of my ports

[errant wharf]

Those are quite a bit larger

And more expensive?

Like 2-3x the cost for a set

[lean grove]

Where are you finding a pair of lsr305's for under $100

[errant wharf]

Does it have a screw-off/ removable adapter? My tygr 300rs came with a 1/4 adapter

[shell relic]

Wait, is it $85 for a pair?

[warm scarab]

take off the adapter lmao

you don't need an amp for it

its not a good headphone in any case but you definitely don't need an amp for it

[errant wharf]

Yeah

[shell relic]

nevermind then..

or actually.. save a bit more and just get the jbl's...

[errant wharf]

Too big still

I want the compact size to fit on my desk

[steep frost]

Does anyone know if the speakers in this unit https://a.co/d/hdYv3uC would be usable just by themselves? I do not have the middle control portion.

[shell relic]

the difference in sound will be monumental though

[errant wharf]

I dont think i have a place to put them

[scarlet olive]

anyone using the motu m2? I wanna know what the latest firmware version is. I bought this mine secondhand about a little bit over a year now and mine is version 1.02. However, i saw versions 2.xx being mentioned on forums online. I ran the updater and it shows that my device is already up-to-date. I've contacted MOTU's live chat support and they said that the firmware is already latest "on your unit" and they seem to be avoiding my questions regarding this. Any ideas? Shouldn't i be getting updates as other M2's?

Or am I understanding firmware updates incorrectly?

[sullen cove]

i might just be a idiot

AHAHAHAHAHHA

ffs 😭

just not my tuesday guys

[errant wharf]

Youre learning

[elder thistle]

good deal

[elder thistle]

it's normal, my m4 can't be updated past 1.01 either

it could be related to the m6

[errant wharf]

Good cause i bought them

[modest ivy]

Anyone got decent low/mid-ranged headphone suggestions? Preferably around the £50 mark realistically, stretching up towards £70

[lean grove]

Koss porta pro

[elder thistle]

what do you want them to do

[modest ivy]

Good quality audio whilst gaming realistically

[elder thistle]

well yes... but what does that mean to you specifically

big bass? neutral response or something else? wide vs narrow, high separation vs low, vocal clarity, prioritizing competitive gaming cues, positional audio

not to mention comfort, build quality style, mic

[modest ivy]

I'm not an audiophile of any sorts, I'm not sure what anybod that means

Just generally good headphones

Comfortable, well made, no mic

[elder thistle]

well for me personally,

the behringer alpha and omega are the best built headphones I've seen in that pricerange, kinda alongside the hyperx cloud II and cloud alpha

and pretty comfortable with their huge earpads but I needed to twist the headband to angle the earcups

[modest ivy]

I've been suggested the Sennheiser 599 for a little over that price range, are they any good?

[elder thistle]

I haven't used those

as far as default tuning goes, it has little sub bass but a lot of upper bass

which is helpful for hearing some things like footsteps

but that kind of bass tuning is generally not popular for music listening

which still isn't a big problem because you could EQ it with free software

I think the mackie mc250 is 50 pounds over in england, but "comfortable and built well" are only decent relative to it's price I would say

the tuning is pretty neutral and therefore sounds have realistic tone. and they were remarkably good at telling me if a sound was in front of or behind me

something even better sounding imo is the 512 audio academy

dunno what that costs in england

it's $60 usd here

the way I'd describe it is that they don't sound as realistic but they sound more detailed and stay detailed when a lot of sounds happen at once

telling front from back was also pretty easy. and there's some bass boost on those

but I wouldn't say they're that comfortable either. definitely better than average for that price, maybe a little more than the mc250. definitely built better. I can wear them for more than an hour but it's uncomfortable by then. see: audio technica ath-m50x because it's the same earpads and even the same drivers/speaker parts inside

but anyways I can't really help you make a good headphone choice as much as you might think I'm helping (uh, well if you're finding this helpful). this is called blind buying

[round igloo]

Is the Beyerdynamic DT 990Pro 250 OHM good?

[elder thistle]

I would have an idea

[elder thistle]

if they didn't

ship me a dt770 on accident (which I already have the 80 ohm version of)

also what for? competitive fps>

[round igloo]

ya

I play a lot of rust, tarkov, cod, etc

[errant wharf]

I like my tygr 300r from the same brand

[elder thistle]

I can only currently make judgements based on the dt770 80 ohm

[round igloo]

my old headset "broke" so i'm just buying a new headset and idrk what to get

i was thinking about the Beyerdynamic DT 990Pro 250 OHM or the Logitech G Pro X LIGHTSPEED Wireless

[elder thistle]

I would expect the logitech to be more capable with telling you where a sound is coming from

but I'd expect the dt990 to be overall clearer and more "detailed"

the dt990 is also known to have loud treble which can hurt to listen to

so does the mackie mc450 but on paper not as much

you'll probably want to use eq softare on both of them

my best estimate right now is it'll be close to a sennheiser hd560s but providing a better idea of frontwards vs backwards sound positions

and that the mc450 will remain a whole tier up in precise imaging and instrument separation, theoretically alongside the $500 beyer dt1990 and $350 ath-r70x

but we'll see

I can't knock it untill I try it

[novel fern]

dt990 was pretty solid, used is as daily driver for one year. very comfortable and sound was okay. treble and overall tonality is hit or miss

[shrewd dirge]

I got myself a pair of Hifiman Anandas with a FiiO K11 Pretty good, but can't really tell if there is any difference when listening to MP3 vs FLAC - should there be? (using Plexamp and Spotify to test/compare)

[elder thistle]

not really

I mean it depends on the music too

[shrewd dirge]

I tried some metal and rap

some Eminem songs and some Shinedown to be more specific

what I do notice though is that the sound feels way less confined into a small box, as opposed to the SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless

I honestly have no idea how these gaming headsets gets such good reviews... The price point on the Arctis Pro Wireless is still around $300 even after like 6 years of being out... Just shy of $400 for the new Arctis Nova Pro Wireless... Awful sound in both of them imo - average in their class at best

not superior for gaming either

in fact the only reason I'd say they're nice to use is the swappable battery feature

[glad creek]

The best wireless gaming headset is the audeze Maxwell and there is no discussion possible about it, it just destroys everything else by a mile

All the other ones I wouldn't even put them on my head by sheer raw disgust

[shrewd dirge]

I believe it, but no swappable battery feature 😦

I liked the Astro A50s I had, gen2 iirc, but no swappable batteries and one of the earcups died iirc 😦

[glad creek]

Yeah but there is no need for it considering how freaking huge the battery is

Like you just need to remember to plug it from time to time

And you can use it wired while charging

[shrewd dirge]

I disagree, I will inevitably run into the issue of having dead battery 😅 being a messyhead I will surely forget to put them to on charging

[glad creek]

When it happens once every three months it's ok lmao

Just plug it and let's roll

[shrewd dirge]

that's what I ended up doing with the A50s I had, ended up being more wired than wireless because when I first happened to plug them in, I often didn't plug them out again

[shrewd dirge]

yeah, that's fair

but in comparison to some open back headphones though, how does the Maxwell perform?

[glad creek]

I got a hd600 and a hd 650 , and a momentum 2 over ear

I owned dozens more, even stax stuff

And tested eveeeen more, especially considering lots of my IRL friends are into audio too

And ... I'm literally hesitating to sell my topping stack + hd 600 + dedicated mic + it's USB interface to buy a second maxwell lmao

Btw I've owned the hd 600 for 9 years for context

And owned/tested multiple dacs and amps obviously

[shrewd dirge]

why a second maxwell?

[wheat moss]

if you have to sell a much of useful things to get one thing, it's not worth it

[glad creek]

It really is holding up to them

Like if someone's doesn't like them it would be out of subjectiveness
Or lack of comfort maybe ? But comfort is okay, just not as great as the hd 600

[shrewd dirge]

I'm a big noob in this, I haven't owned anything but mainstream gaming headsets and mainstream Bose-type headsets (QC35 and QC45 iirc)

[glad creek]

This one is for my living room setup, hence the wireless

(I have 3 gaming setup)

[shrewd dirge]

that I like about the Hifiman Anandas, they are very comfortable

[elder thistle]

I'm still skeptical it would beat my cheaper "headset" overall

but I'd love to try a maxwell

[shrewd dirge]

but sound-wise I didn't notice too much of a difference over Philips Fidelio X2HR

[glad creek]

It's not that I have to, it's that I don't feel their need anymore for all those boxes and cables when I can just get a Maxwell and have 90% of the experience

[shrewd dirge]

ahh, I see, fair enough

but it's "just" $300 though, why the need to sell all of that equipment?

to avoid having to have equipment that is just collecting dust at home?

("just" relatively speaking, considering the Sennheiser + topping stack etc is significantly more expensive)

any recommendations for dedicated mic setups for casual gaming and voice chatting?

I really like the idea of an SM7B, but it's a bit too expensive for what I need I think, and I've heard good things about the SM58

but then there are questions like:

• am I better off with a USB mic?
• if XLR mic, what interface to use with it that isn't overly expensive? I have a GoXLR Mini actually, maybe that's the answer to my question already

[elder thistle]

so wait

which is supposed to be the king here

the r70x or the maxwell

[shrewd dirge]

aren't those wired and open back? so not directl comparable?

[elder thistle]

yes and dynamic driver, but surely comparisons can still be drawn, can't they?

I hear both being mentioned as "holding the top spot for gaming performance at $350"

[shrewd dirge]

sure, but why compare those two exactly?

I would personally separate wireless from wired, as people wanting wireless don't care about wired usually

but from a pure technical standpoint, sure

[elder thistle]

it is possible that someone may not care about wireless/wired, isolation, and everything else as long as it got them the most useful audio

[shrewd dirge]

yeah, for sure

[glad creek]

You didn't understand

I'm almost thinking of selling the Sennheiser + topping stack + dedicated mic with what's needed not for the money, but because I don't see why I should keep having so much stuff and wires on my desk when something like the Maxwell is almost there

[shrewd dirge]

then I did understand, I made two alternative assumptions hehe

[glad creek]

I won't sell it though, the hd600 comfort is way too good and I like the sound signature

Also I'm lazy

[shrewd dirge]

but as far as I understood, open back will always be nicer for soundstage - at least that's my experience

closed back feels a lot more confined into a small "room", while open back feels a lot bigger

[shrewd dirge]

yeah, same, I have too many headsets, mice, and keyboards most of the headsets being very average

[elder thistle]

and if the r70x is generally favorable over the maxwell, then something that challenges the r70x for 1/2 the cost while including a detachable mic... spells a problem for potential customers of the maxwell who are not committed to it's features

[shrewd dirge]

Ananda is the first and only audiophile level headphones I've owned

[elder thistle]

that's what I'm trying to figure out

[shrewd dirge]

I think it's hard to compete with the $100 or so price point for a pair of Philips Fidelio X2HR ngl

but you'd likely prefer to pair those with a DAC/amp

[glad creek]

You can have a super cheap XLR microphone, no need for the sm7b

If you have a goxlr mini no need for anything else lmao

You can check out podcastage on yt to get a good idea, but do check out the super low budget mic you'll be surprised

It's ALL about positioning and settings on the mic

Also you should almost invest more in a good boom arm rather than a more expensive mic, and I'm not joking

[shrewd dirge]

which isn't needed for the Maxwell(?)

[glad creek]

I have 3 keyboards on the desk at the same time

[shrewd dirge]

rofl, I have mine laying around here and there 😛

[elder thistle]

I don't know about the x2hr other than someone saying it's wide, low res, and outdated

[shrewd dirge]

took one to work, have one where there are barely any switches left on it, and the main one I use

[elder thistle]

there is only 1 headphone jackson talks about

[glad creek]

Maxwell is all about the features

If you don't need a mic nor wireless then don't get this

If you need both then it's the only one I would recommend and use myself

[shrewd dirge]

they are pretty decent the little I tried them yesterday

[elder thistle]

is it like a slightly improved but closed he400se

the maxwell

[shrewd dirge]

honestly might get a pair of Maxwells one day, will have to wait a bit, otherwise my gf will be furious

[shrewd dirge]

ah, nice - are these 3D printed DIY keyboards?

[glad creek]

I didn't try the he400se, but it would not be forcefully surprising

Considering you get the mic + dac + amp + wireless, if you add all of that to the 400se you end up at the same price

[glad creek]

Not all 3D printed but all entirely diy

(and you can't add wireless yeah but you got my point)

[elder thistle]

I would say it's instrument separation was very impressive for the pricepoint and the stage was wide, but the tone was screwed without eq and it almost seemed low resolution

not in the same way I mean it with dynamic headphones when I say low resolution

it's like the quietest details have disappeared (kinda like on speakers), but also the fine texture of some sounds is erased

it was bizzare

[shrewd dirge]

nice, I want to get back into more DIY stuff again, but limited time for it 😅

[glad creek]

I think that most headphones should be EQd anyway

[elder thistle]

probably

[shrewd dirge]

I'm gonna play with EQ on my Ananda today when I get home from work

[glad creek]

And I don't really see what you mean about low res, but maybe you meant dynamic range and then it's an amp problem I guess

[elder thistle]

especially for music production

I could see the he400se being a half decent tool for mixing because of the instrument separation

but it'd need to be accompanied by a more conventional headphone

[glad creek]

The 400se is like 7 times more hungry for power than an akg k371 or 3.5 more than a hd598se

[elder thistle]

yes

[glad creek]

So yeah, low amplification often leads to lack of dynamic range which could be what you described

[elder thistle]

well I have an old speaker amp, a magni 3 heresy, a couple dongles, and a motu m4

same effect on all of them

actually I was able to distort the shit out of my he400se and probably almost broke it

like louder than I ever listen to my speakers but it was 4 feet from my head

verified the signal was good with oscilloscope

[glad creek]

Oh yeah I'm not sure with an oscilloscope you can see the damage if there are any

But still should be fine

[elder thistle]

my sister uses it now

[glad creek]

It's still a great headphone for the price

[elder thistle]

I meant the signal coming out of the amp and into the he400se was perfectly sinusoidial and well below 1% thd while the headphones were audible approaching a square wave

people heard it upstairs

[shrewd dirge]

how would I hook this and a GoXLR Mini together?

the GoXLR has a 3.5mm line-out, the FiiO K11 has a USB-C & Optical line-in

oh, and the coaxial in/out, whatever that is

[topaz prairie]

Does anyone have a strong opinion about the ethos from earthworks compared to Shure sm7b I need it for a vocal clarity in a treated room. I already have a high-quality preamp so that won’t be a problem.

[glad creek]

This really isn't made to be hooked together

Like you could do it but there is no point, both are DAC/amp

[shrewd dirge]

ah, perhaps I can just run the headphones on the GoXLR Mini then, but not sure how well they will perform on that in comparison to the FiiO K11

[wheat moss]

goxlr 💀

[shrewd dirge]

what? 😮

I like the faders, and I got it cheap

[glad creek]

You can just try and see for yourself which is better

It's quite sad to see that the fiio k11 does not have line in, effectively bypassing the amp

And as for the goxlr mini, at a good price it's not forcefully a bad product if one finds comfort in the feature it offers, which is physical sliders to "mix" game/music/chat/system stuff
I may want to diy something like that one day

[shrewd dirge]

yeah, I made a proof of concept DIY for this with Arduino iirc, isn't hard at all

but I suppose I can use Voicemeeter or something to send the virtual audio devices GoXLR creates into the K11 instead, that way I will retain the faders functionality

[glad creek]

I really don't know how the goxlr works software-wise as I don't have it (and don't use windows), but yeah you could try
If you successfully do it, I'd be happy to know it

[warm scarab]

an x touch mini is 50$ and a um2 is another 50$

100$ for something direclty better first hand

[shrewd dirge]

yeah, I didn't mean to say that there are no better alternatives than the GoXLR Mini

it's made in a similar fashion to other mainstream products, like gaming headsets for example

high price = good is most people's way of shopping

to some extent anyway, there is a point where it just becomes too expensive too

[cyan drum]

I’m sure all audiophiles will love this setup😂

It’s only a little bass heavy

[shrewd dirge]

what's this

is it what you use to annoy your neighbors? or you unironically use this

[cyan drum]

Lucky for me I don’t have neighbours

[shrewd dirge]

but why so much bass?

[cyan drum]

I’m a bass head

[ember widget]

Hi everyone, could someone help me with picking out some PC speakers? I've been rocking like $20 logitech ones for 10 years nearly haha

[shrewd dirge]

fair enough, I have a double 12" in my car haha

and I do prefer music where bass doesn't strangle everything else

[shrewd dirge]

you need to be a little more helpful with what you're looking for

any budget? any preferences?

[ember widget]

sorry! No real preferences from what I can think of. About £300 ish

[shrewd dirge]

I really liked Logitech Z906 for its price, but perhaps somebody with more experience than me in the field will have other recommendations

not sure if still an issue, but some of them did have some issues with the amp/sub dying, though I used mine for about 10 years without issue

[buoyant vale]

Logitech only make junk

could get some JBL 305P for that kinda budget

[cyan drum]

I would advise you go for kef q150 with a decent amplifier it’s a little over budget but those are some really good speakers

I have only had good experiences with kef they make really good speakers

[reef prawn]

i don't you think you can get a pair of kef q150 with a decent amp for 300 pounds lol

[buoyant vale]

yeah the speakers alone are overbudgeet and they're on sale atm

[low remnant]

what are some great value headphones that can be used both wired and wirelessly? Something that isn't too expensive but also something that sounds great

[copper ermine]

Audio technica is stupid, I buy record player at an Australian store and it comes with a us plug

[lean grove]

Shoulda been born in a country with more freedom

[copper ermine]

Shoulda been born in a country with less freedom and bad wall plugs you mean

[lean grove]

Gaze upon my exposed electrical connection ye mighty and despair

[copper ermine]

Never mind I found the adaptor lmao

[copper ermine]

No ground.

?

[lean grove]

Why would I need one of those

[shrewd dirge]

I disagree

[molten lotus]

$5 you touch those prongs with a metal fork

[shrewd dirge]

@buoyant vale 😂 what a guy

why not elaborate on why it's only junk

otherwise it's not at all helpful, it'll be nothing but your opinion

[molten lotus]

The edifier r2000db are quite nice

[lean grove]

For speakers they really are junk

The individual speakers are as cheap as I've ever seen but they bundle in 5 of them and make you think that they're now somehow worth something

[shrewd dirge]

I happen to think they are quite alright tbh, but I haven't looked at alternatives in the same price range give or take a little bit

but it's often the case with mainstream stuff that they try to manipulate us into thinking that the stuff they make is justified at the price they cost

iirc I paid like $100 for my Z906s, so not too bad

[lean grove]

That's less bad than the real MSRP of them. The fact that Logitech will happily charge $400 for them really should indicate how little you should respect their speaker lineup.

[shrewd dirge]

oh yeah, $400 is way too much

I bought them in like 2011 or something

they were significantly less expensive then

and still the exact same stuff afaik

[lean grove]

Even at $100 I think they're still making away like bandits.

[shrewd dirge]

that could be, idk much about what's in them

I just know what it's like to play audio through them, for which they do alright imo

but these days I try to steer away from mainstream stuff that's mass advertised, unless I get it for cheap second hand

[lean grove]

Depending on your definition of mainstream there aren't really any good options for speakers in mainstream

Edifiers have snuck their way onto the front page of Amazon but other than that most of the time whatever people buy is crap.

[warm scarab]

they might be better than creative pebbles because of the dedicated sub maybe

apart from that I can't think of anything they would beat post 80$

[lean grove]

Yeah. If you want decent speakers you can get edifiers. If you just want noise makers you can get pebbles

[errant wharf]

Just a reminder, you can find Edifier mr4 for $85 on ebay, direct from Edifier.

[tiny zealot]

Can I get some recommendations for headphones for around $150 USD
Primarily used for gaming and music with closed back for noise cancellation

[warm scarab]

there aren't any headphones you can use for gaming with noise cancellation

except for like razers maybe

which are trash

[tiny zealot]

What would you recommend without nc?

[warm scarab]

akg k371

for closed backs

hd560s for opens

[civic holly]

Having issues with my current, quite old, receiver.
Any suggestions for a 5.1 receiver with good room correction and the option to expand to 5.1.4, that does not mess with the bass of the main speakers when you connect a sub?

[elder thistle]

depends on the music and your preferences with sound

for gaming I actually found the m50x to be pretty impressive

moreso than k371

got better imaging, front vs back, and instrument separation

tonality-wise the k371's are almost unbeatable, a good no-eq option

and more comfortable

I know a lot of people have the opposite idea on these two headphones. maybe half or 2/3

I can't begin to guess how that's possible, since sounds actually disappearing is more of an on/off switch than an opinion on sound quality

but it is

[lean grove]

M50x just sounds terrible

If it's just for gaming you don't need to spend $150 on them

[tiny zealot]

How so

[lean grove]

they've got a weird tonal balance making everything sound muddy.

its been a while since i heard a pair but when i tried them on they were just... nasty....

[tiny zealot]

I'm just a bit confused cause I've asked around in a couple servers and what keeps happening is I get recommended a pair then get told they're garbage by another person who tells me about a different pair and the cycle repeats itself

[lean grove]

well upwards of 90% of people giving out audio advice online are people who:
A: have only tried one thing and it works, and because they havent tried anything else, they continue to recommend the only thing they a have experience with
B: have not tried that thing but youtubers like MKBHD keep recommending it so they recommend it too.

there are not a lot of good options for $150 noise cancelling headphones unfortunately so im not surprised that anytime you get recommended something, someone else tells you its trash (because it most likely is)

i would personally tell you to get earbuds instead, since theres a lot of really good earbuds for under $150 that do as good a job as noise cancelling headphones while sounding much much better

[tiny zealot]

I believe I just messed up whenever I said noise cancellation
I just didn't want open backs cause I didn't want to hear everything around me

[lean grove]

ah.

yeah i would still follow klaus' advice

akg k371 or hd560s (open back is really not that bad)

if you're not in a bus or in a construction site, that is

but also take a look at the truthear hola's. they're $20. they sound great.

and they come with a lot of different tips so they're probably gonna fit pretty well unless you have weird shaped ears like me.

[elder thistle]

this is the nature of audio advice in general

it is best to try them out for yourself, ideally

I know people who love each of these and hate each of these

the m50x was not muddy for me, but the tonality was certainly a little artificial

I prefer them over the hd560s in rock and most electronic music, sometimes pop. because the hd560s sounded like it had worse instrument separation, less bass control, and slightly muddy

also in games for similar reasons plus the ability to tell front from back

otherwise I liked the hd560s more. which is a lot of other content

if I had to pick one of them to wear for several hours a day for random tasks, it would probably be the hd560s out of comfort and being a more rounded performer

I like the k371's tonality, comfort, and sound quality in calm music or podcasts but generally I think better can be done for $150

the midrange in particular was smeared together sounding and it makes multiple midrange sounds at once strangely muddied, low resolution, and sometimes unpleasant

it is worse on the k361

but also some people dislike high resolution and instrument separation, and prefer tonality without eq, timbre, and dynamics instead

one man's trash is another man's treasure

I'm definitely a high resolution and instrument separation kind of guy

the rest is not as important to me

also note that when I talk about a headphone, saying something's good or poor is relative to it's price and nearest competitors

if you have a $40 headset, it is still likely that the k371 midrange smearing is less than what you already have. and a very large improvement in other areas

[warm scarab]

understandable concern but m50x has been outdated for years now, I wouldn't take words of anyone who recommends them

for anyone who has been up to date with the market its an established fact at this point

[solar saddle]

Should I get a Audeze MM100?

Or HD 600/6XX

[shrewd dirge]

man, I knew it was a "mistake" getting proper headphones

now I probably can't ever enjoy music in headsets like Bose QC 45 for example

actually, false news, I'm an idiot - used the hands-free one but still not nearly as good as the Hifiman Ananda

[glad creek]

Such is life

[elder thistle]

that's what I've been doing though

I've got 35 actual headphones in my house right now, most of them are within 10 years old

[warm scarab]

you are an odd case jackson

[elder thistle]

idk

most people who dunk on the m50x instrument separation make me question their trained ear

but at this point I don't know if that's still the case

maybe there's a pressure issue that causes the m50x to suck for some people and work well for others in instrument separation

or we have different definitions of instrument separation paired with different preferences

same for the k361 and k371

but I will say that the 512 audio Academy headphones are using m50x drivers with a more warm tuning for $60

kind of insane

[glad creek]

I hate the m50x too, not just its sound but the comfort too

Like I would never ever use that for myself, if someone was to give one to me I would sell it RIGHT away

I just utterly don't understand how anyone could remotely like it

[elder thistle]

are you familiar with the shure srh940

[glad creek]

I tried it once I believe, but I was in someone else house and the girl was using it for her piano

And to be fair, I had other priorities than her headphones lmao

(and only tried it on her piano ...)

So i don't know

But it did look comfy

[elder thistle]

hm...

well for me the m50x is like a worsely balanced srh940

[glad creek]

Speaking of this girl, she tried my stax sr507 and was blown away, she was able to hear so much more stuff haha
That's where you see the difference between a musician who had training in the domain and me who just listen to stuff

Like she instantly saw how it was different and how it was good etc when she basically had no experience in audiophile stuff besides using sometimes a headphone on her piano

[warm scarab]

my experience has been the other way around tbh

except for people who do master their own music as opposed to just recording it most of them didn't have a good ear for it

[drowsy blade]

Hey! I’ve done it! Thanks so much for ur help!

[acoustic osprey]

Is the razer blackshark v2 pro 2020 good for a budget gaming headset

Costs around 120 bucks here in switzerland which is a normal price for wireless headsets

[drowsy blade]

For gaming? Probably not bad yeah, for literally anything else? No. Razer is known in the audiophile community for bad quality to price ratio. They’re good yeah, but not £120 good

[lean grove]

Take a look at the pc37x

Gonna be miles better than the black shark

[pliant sierra]

i have a feeling that i have better headphone sound when plugging them directly into my PC rather than my komplete audio 1 interface, could this be real?

[acoustic osprey]

not available in switzerland

othe recomendations

[lean grove]

my other recommendation would be a hd560s with a usb mic, but thats probably gonna be a bit more expensive than the blacksharks

miles better, so i would recommend saving.

but thats all i got

[acoustic osprey]

ill stick with the blackshark for now

[tiny zealot]

opinions on the hd599s and dt770 pros?

[drowsy blade]

I like 770s

[elder thistle]

I have their blackshark v2x and its actually great, but only with eq

[acoustic osprey]

what settings u got?

[elder thistle]

I'll grab that in a little bit, not at my computer

[acoustic osprey]

ok👍🏿

[elder thistle]

telling front from back, imaging, and instrument separation were all high even by $50 headphone standards

the tonality sucked out of the box. boomy and muddy bass, quiet and uneven mids, treble a little quiet but very uneven

[brazen basalt]

could anybody help me set up my fifine microphone to sound better for the guys in discord

[tawdry gale]

🚮

[elder thistle]

dt770 is pretty cool depending on what you want and what you'll listen to on it

but it's not my first choice personally as far as closed backs go

uniquely large soundstage

[molten lotus]

Is there anything in the hd600 price range that has decent tone but better imaging and separation?

I am about to pull the trigger on a pair of hd600 and just again doing a double check.

[lean grove]

Just buy it you coward

[molten lotus]

Honestly this is the expected answer

[buoyant vale]

if you don't like it you can just blend it

[tiny zealot]

any input on the hd599s?

[lean grove]

Overly warm but you can do worse.

I'd take it over the dt770. But also. Pc37x exists.

And 560s

[tiny zealot]

I thought 599 were just better 560

[molten lotus]

Anyone know which budget speakers i should get?

[lean grove]

https://marchaudio.com/product/sointuva-awg-stand-mount-speaker/

[molten lotus]

Ty

Wait what

4k?😭

[elder thistle]

decent tone? not as decent as the hd600, especially in treble

better separation and imaging? yeah

hd600 is more well rounded though with it's amazing neutrality and some soundstage

and almost certainly comfort

there's probably some planar options or the r70x too, the latter reportedly having worse separation but serious soundstage/imaging and pretty good neutrality

[agile void]

What earpads should i get my senn 650s

[lean grove]

yeah they're really good for the money. easily extend down to 30hz, really good dispersion, great in-room and on-axis performance, barely any footprint

[lean grove]

the default ones from sennheiser.

[agile void]

really tho

[lean grove]

yeah. the headphones are specifically designed to be used with those earpads.

so thats gonna be the best.

other ones might do weird things to the headphones

[molten lotus]

I said budget😭

[lean grove]

you didnt say which budget

[molten lotus]

I mean

a 15 y/o

😭😭

[lean grove]

how much money did you wanna spend, mo

[molten lotus]

Like 50

[lean grove]

creative pebbles are gonna be your best bet

they're not amazing but idk anything better for $50

unless you luck out on some crusty craigslist speakers

[molten lotus]

Alr thanks

Should i get the 2.0?

[lean grove]

get the v3

or the creative pebble plus.

[molten lotus]

Hm okay

Thank you

[elder thistle]

what about these? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09T5NT6WR

I haven't tried them and they're $10 overbudget... but it's a 2 way speaker

haven't tried the pebbles either

[lean grove]

i just think the pebbles would be safer since they're full range speakers

harder to fuck up.

[elder thistle]

good point

[errant wharf]

What makes the pebbles full range?

[lean grove]

full range means that instead of having a speaker's sound being split up and sent to a tweeter and a woofer, you have one speaker that does all of the work.

the single speaker is full-range, meaning it plays all frequencies

[errant wharf]

Ah, i assumed full range applied to the speakers as a whole.

Not the separate woofer and tweeters

[lean grove]

it can also be used to describe a speaker which doesnt need a subwoofer

but that ones a bit more rare

[errant wharf]

So like headphones are full range since it all comes out the same speaker yes?

[lean grove]

yeah

[molten lotus]

Would the elex be a worthwhile consideration? I can chill and save more. If I chill too long I might end up just buying hd800 though

[lean grove]

just buy the 600

[elder thistle]

I'm kinda with nils

[molten lotus]

Since someone elsewhere mentioned the elex I must confess that focal's design language tickles something deep in my lizard brain.

[lean grove]

okay then buy the elex

they show up used pretty often on ebay

[elder thistle]

if you're unsure on what you want, the hd600 is a pretty safe recommendation

especially if you're willing to use eq for the bass if needed

but I don't even use them with eq usually

[molten lotus]

That's been my thought process as well. The lure of the universally recommended also tickles my lizard brain

[hard atlas]

Could anyone make a recommendation for good headphones to use for bass guitar? Somthing not too pricey, right now im using old headphones with terrible range.

[lean grove]

have you considered iems?

[hard atlas]

I have not, ill look into them

[lean grove]

take a look at the truthear holas. theyre $20 and compete with headphones much more expensive than them. and they do a decent job of isolating

[hard atlas]

Thanks for the recommendation

[autumn wren]

Does anyone know where I can find free downloads of the 3d model for the Sennhieser HD560S, HD599, etc, style headphones?

[hardy basalt]

Good morning/afternoon/evening fellas! I need some help deciding what I should get. My wireless earbuds is kaput, I've been thinking of changing to an IEM, any budget suggestions? Currently eyeing the Salnotes Zero

I'm also looking for a new headset to replace my Razer Kraken X with. Currently eyeing the HyperX Cloud Stinger 2

[turbid grove]

It's hard to get a high-quality 2.1 speaker (also for monitoring) for $300 right? but I can get a good monitoring headphone for $300, right?

[tawdry gale]

truthear hola

[tawdry gale]

audeze maxwell or pc38x(its openback)

[broken maple]

swissonic a306/ jbl 305p m2

[turbid grove]

oh thank you, I'll look into them

[turbid grove]

is that it? MKII

[broken maple]

yes

[turbid grove]

Thanks, I also have a Komplete Audio 2 Sound card, do you know if that's good enough for these?

I use it for my mic right now

[broken maple]

probably

make sure you have the right cables

[plush hedge]

You think these would be good for casual use from my phone? I've been considering iems for a hot minute now but wasn't really sure what to get.

Right now I'm just using some over-ear wireless ones and might need an upgrade within the next couple of years

[lean grove]

Yes. I use mine daily.

[plush hedge]

nice

What's their sound profile like

[lean grove]

Neutral warm. They have a bass tilt rather than a bass bump so it's a pretty gentle tuning.

[unique wind]

nils the prophet spreading the good word of chifi

they are a cool looking set

probably better than the waner and salnotes

@lean grove

“v shape” but not overpowering bass and muted highs

bro has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about

[lean grove]

He might just be used to a brighter sound sig

Brain burn in having done it's thing

[violet socket]

That dude is just regurgitating random shit he read on an audiophile reddit board

then again the only difference between that rambling nonsense and an audiophile forum is how much is being collectively spent

[elder thistle]

I ordered the chu 2's this christmas for my mum

since it was described twice as the more techs-focused earbuds out of the common budget leaders

f**k tuning

actually the tuning's already pretty good anyways

naturally I will have to try them as well

I'm a little skeptical of how they will sound, been a fan of balanced armatures historically speaking

and she seems to like the same kind of sound aspects that I do

[tawdry gale]

be warned about the qc though

moondrop qc is down to luck

many units have massive channel imbalance in the bass region

[elder thistle]

could be insertion depth errors too

but I guess that's a possibility

[onyx burrow]

I need help I recently took a break from my pc I got back on today to no audio working I did a basic stuff (check for updates on audio drivers) (trouble shoot) reinstall drivers I don’t know anything else restarted windows audio tried different headphones nothing is working checked all audio windows is picking up audio that I can’t hear from YouTube discord and system notifications anyone know a fix?

[swift ibex]

anyone know an Android app that records and has controls to adjust mic sensitivity and gain for external mics?

[acoustic osprey]

does someone own the razer blackshark v2 pro 2020 wired/wireless ?

[molten lotus]

At what hz does it stop being bass and just becomes slow oscillations

I'd say like 20hz

[lean grove]

hard to say. 20hz is the official limit of what we can hear. but if the spl is high enough you can feel something like 10hz.

its pretty arbitrary

[molten lotus]

The fact that I can hear 1hz on my over ear headphones is concerning

[lean grove]

is it

[molten lotus]

And 10hz is when I stop feeling it in my earbuds

[molten lotus]

It just sounds like fabric moving and oscillating

[lean grove]

then dont do that

something is probably unhappy

[molten lotus]

Yeah 😭

[elder thistle]

sad frequencies

[inland bobcat]

Revived my grandfather's neglected audio junk

Everything has been disconnected for like 15yrs

[tiny zealot]

If I don't have any audio interface is it a good idea for me to get headphones that are 50 ohm or would I have trouble running them?

[elder thistle]

which headphones?

sensitivity matters too

and... your definition of loud

and if you intend to use substantial bass eq

[tiny zealot]

pc37x

[elder thistle]

oh yeah you're fine with just about any pc's audio jack

not much different than random 32 ohm headphones

[tight dew]

Hi guys, do you guys have any recommendations for IEMs? For gaming use.

[crystal violet]

KZ's are pretty good

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832825552179.html?aff_fcid=cebd991b44c4482abdbffac4ee0eba8a-1702113069260-08025-_DCSTWj9&tt=CPS_NORMAL&aff_fsk=_DCSTWj9&aff_platform=portals-tool&sk=_DCSTWj9&aff_trace_key=cebd991b44c4482abdbffac4ee0eba8a-1702113069260-08025-_DCSTWj9&terminal_id=19960da2865349ac989fbcfa4afa3b65&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

[silent haven]

truthear hexa, simgot EM6L,

thieaudio hype 2

maybe truthear novas which i own

but its not for everyone

[tight dew]

thanks guys, I'll check these out

[tight dew]

how so?

[silent haven]

it follows harman 2019 in ear target which is good and bad

2019 is too shouty people argue

and i tend to agree

[somber frigate]

Drop + EPOS PC38X Gaming Headset for 119usd is this good ? right now i have g433 wich are dying lol
my mother board is asrock b550m pro4
i do have a usb i can use as a sound card its from the g433 head set

[nova wagon]

yep thats good, one of the better gaming headset

[somber frigate]

nice though so

used a website to filter through bunch of headphones

ah man shipping is 40$

that stinks

[cinder cipher]

I'm trying to engineer a solution to a problem I'm having atm and I Can't think of any better place to ask this rn. I have studio monitors plugged into a focusrite 2i2. Whenever my pc wakes from sleep/starts up, the 2i2 turns on, and creates a pop (because I'm too lazy to turn off the speakers every time). Is there a solution for this that is tied into the pc starting up turning on the speakers?

[warm scarab]

could still be worth it honestly

[somber frigate]

220 now though lots of money

im thinking of the HyperX Cloud alpha

[elder thistle]

thats a good one for positional audio

wouldnt pay more than 80 for it though

pretty low res, low instrument separation, boomy

nice earpads

[elder thistle]

I have titanfall 2 sound demos of them somewhere

which cant tell you everything and would be inaccurate in many ways by varying amounts

but:

this is what $130/ the cloud alpha S can do

and this is what $28 more can do, but just using free eq instead of a spatializer usb remote

not dunking on the spatializer, its actually proven useful to me over the stock game audio many times

[warm scarab]

you should stop using rtings for headphones decisions

[blazing magnet]

So I wanna buy Audeze Maxwell but I need something for storage .. maybe headphone stand or some other option. Any recommendations.. want something good quality

[steel escarp]

Lay them flat on your desk

[crystal sluice]

3d print a stand

[molten lotus]

in terms of audio what headphones would you suggest, wired is preferred

[lean grove]

final audio d8000 pro is pretty good

[tiny zealot]

Am I able to with the pc37x?

[lean grove]

pc37x are pretty easy to run

you shouldnt have any issues with them

[tawdry gale]

Sennheiser HE1

[molten skiff]

best closed backs for gaming ?

I currently have open backs but id like more noise isolation since I live in a noisey enviroment

[lean grove]

how do you feel about in-ears

[molten skiff]

I prefer headphones when on pc

i find in ears a bit uncomfortable

I only use in ears for my phone

[lean grove]

gotcha. check out the audeze maxwell

[tawdry gale]

audeze maxwell

[molten skiff]

ok

[somber frigate]

the site seems good it has lots of testing kinda seems the best info out there right now

[warm scarab]

it isn't though

the finalized ratings are arbitrary

and their target curve is for speaker bass + diffusion field

its stupid

[somber frigate]

what would you recommend for headphones around 130usd or max 200aud

i need a mic too thats good

[lean grove]

they have a lot of testing yes, and some of their testing data is actually extremely valuable and not a lot of other people collect it. stuff like pressure, heat buildup, frequency response consistency,

but their simple 1-10 rating scale is extremely arbitrary and isnt actually useful. RTings has weird critera and things are at the top of their list that are actually pretty bad.

[warm scarab]

pc38x, pc37x

[lean grove]

yeah how much are the pc37x by you

[warm scarab]

sennheiser game one

[molten skiff]

they seem to be on backorder rn

[warm scarab]

well

[molten skiff]

guess they having stock issues

[warm scarab]

do a backorder

[molten skiff]

guess it is christmas season

[warm scarab]

they have been having stock issues since release

[somber frigate]

pc38x 210$ with shipping and pc37x 150$ with shipping
would the extra 60 be worth it ?

[lean grove]

tbh you'll probably be pretty happy with either. pc37x has a lot more neutral sound signature, the pc38x is a bit more v shaped

[warm scarab]

its your call

how could you nils

[lean grove]

the v shape is gonna make things sound a bit more exciting, its got better bass extension

whats $60 aud worth to you

[somber frigate]

a lot lol

[lean grove]

get the 37x then

[somber frigate]

will i need an external sound card ?
all though the p38x does seem to be more cool for the ears

is the pc38x open back ? does that mean there is air flow ?

[lean grove]

your computer should be fine to run them. they're really easy to power.

and there is a little bit more air flow in the headphone, but the back is literally open. it makes the headphone sound a lot more natural and realistic.

[somber frigate]

yeah then i think ill just have to go with them

well ill buy it tommorw moring lol gn

[lean grove]

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/full-range-speaker-kits/markaudio-tozzi-one-kit-pair/

im tempted

[tiny zealot]

Which has the better bass between the two?

[warm scarab]

pc38x imo

haven't listened to the 37x but

looks limp

[scenic widget]

Hey, so I have JBL Bluetooth headphones (JBL 770NC), They have a built in microphone, it works when using Bluetooth, but when I use the headphones with the wired mode, they don't work at all. Is anyone familiar with this issue? Thanks!

[drowsy blade]

Does anyone have a spare left driver for DT770s?

[elder thistle]

yes, some

I don't know why the pc38x is this expensive

oh aud

no wait usd

[tiny zealot]

They are currently on sale for 119 usd
The 37 are on sale for 79 usd

[elder thistle]

that's better

[silent haven]

he400se

tygr300r but costs more

more "gaming" oriented

[blazing magnet]

So I wanna buy Audeze Maxwell but I need something for storage .. maybe headphone stand or some other option. Any recommendations.. want something good quality

[warm scarab]

its a headphone stand man

use a coat rack if you want to

[unique wind]

pick a headphone stand that you think looks nice

[tight prairie]

Hey guys, between a Scarlett Solo/2i2 4th gen, MOTU M2 2x2, and a UA Volt 2 audio interface, which would you reccomend?

[warm scarab]

scarlett is a meme among those

[tight prairie]

Oh damn.

[warm scarab]

motu is pretty good

volt i don't know but heard good things about it

[tight prairie]

What makes Scarlett a meme?

[warm scarab]

its just a piece of shit

poor build

[tight prairie]

I wanted one more important due to being able to plug the mic into the back and less desk clutter.

[warm scarab]

like 1 decent component

and terrible drivers

[tight prairie]

Damn.

[warm scarab]

its ability is being red metal

[unique wind]

headphone output on scarlett is really terrible

the "air" preamp mode is useless

[warm scarab]

that somehow makes it keep on selling

[unique wind]

(i own a scarlett)

[tight prairie]

Shit, so either Muto or UA Volt 2 aye?

[warm scarab]

muto

[unique wind]

moto moto likes you

[tight prairie]

I guess I can use a 90 degree adapter then to route the cable towards the back. 😅

[unique wind]

i think the biggest thing i hate about my scarlett is that the usb and the xlr are on opposite sides

so the xlr cable has to loop backward over the top of the unit

i know that's the case for basically every interface but i dont like it

[warm scarab]

i think the biggest thing i hate about scarlett is that it stops working if i shoot at it with a gun

i know that's the case for basically every interface but i dont like it

[unique wind]

thats my favorite part

[warm scarab]

it indicates poor quality

[elder thistle]

3rd gen is supposedly okay, still not great. drivers not causing bsod's

would rather take my chances with the ua volt under $200

my motu m4 is kickass and I dont need to worry about signal chains anymore

some audient stuff is awesome too

had their 1st gen id14 a while ago

[somber frigate]

i was going to get pc37x or pc38x but the shipping is to much and i don't want to have to pay for ship to send back the item if its brakes with in 2 years.
im in Australia 200 is the limit for me or 131usb

[final heart]

hey guys, i dont know if this is the right channel for this but i bought a pair of bose 700 headphones recently but i cant use the microphone while playing audio (like in a game) at the same time. i looked over some reddit posts and apparently its impossible to play audio while using the mic. is this true?

[lean grove]

that sounds about right. you might be able to use them with bluetooth but when you do that, things sound like shit

[final heart]

ive been using them with bluetooth

if i want to get into a discord call with my friends, the mic works perfectly fine except the audio just stops working until i get out of the call

i'll create a thred in tech support

[somber frigate]

lol i did it i spent money on pc38x i don't feel good but i needed new headphones they need to be good because i use them every day all the time.

[final heart]

i made a detailed post in tech support, if you could please help me id appreciate it. im guessing at least someone here has experienced the same issue as me.

ive been trying to fix it for so long

[crystal sluice]

Is the hifiman 400se decent for a budget planar?

[silent haven]

the best at that price point

he400se punches up in price too

[broken tusk]

any good mics for under sgd 100

[tight prairie]

How do I "equalize loudness" with an audio interface?

I was watching Youtube shorts and going from one video to the next changes the output to my headphones significantly.

Watch one video, adjust volume to the right level, go to next video and its too quite and adjust again, and then the following video its too loud.

By plugging my old headphones directly, I had a "Equalize Loudness" setting enabled for the headphones that prevented that.

I currently have a 2i2 but ordered a Muto M2 as a replacement and wondering if there's a fix for this problem?

[tawdry gale]

as a headphone no

[warm scarab]

it sort of shits itself without an amp

so you end up paying twice as much to get it to run well

not very budget when you think of it that way

[steel escarp]

I am a genius

EQ he1000v2 stealth to susvara

[lean grove]

its amazing that nobody has ever throught about this until you

[steel escarp]

yeah ikr

jokes aside it actually sounds less offensive

[unique wind]

now add a harman bass shelf and enter nirvana

[steel escarp]

it already has one

[elder thistle]

sounds like a software compressor

[uneven minnow]

Are there any good mp3 player specific devices where they have hardware switches for stuff like Bluetooth or whatever?

[warm scarab]

phones?

[uneven minnow]

A dedicated music device. Something with a better dac than a phone

[warm scarab]

you said bluetooth

[uneven minnow]

It was just an example

[warm scarab]

you'd need to pay upwards of 400$ to get an improvement over dongles in a dap

generally around 700$ is the sweet spot

[uneven minnow]

I can pay that

[warm scarab]

what are you planning on running

[uneven minnow]

What do you mean?

[warm scarab]

what headphones/iems do you plan on driving

[uneven minnow]

Im probably going to be running wired headphones. As for specific ones, dont know yet. Just recently started to go into the enthusiast type stuff

[warm scarab]

unless you are rich id stick to my money

a dap is really dumb thing to buy

[uneven minnow]

I have over 20k in my bank account. I have no loans, car payments, mortgages. Only have food, phone bill and car insurance. I can afford it

[warm scarab]

You will run out of 20k really fast if you buy stuff as useless as this tbh lmao

but anyhow

fiio m11 and m15 are two standalone dap units you can buy

[tawdry gale]

buy headphones before caring about source devices

[warm scarab]

this

you can't bring open backs outdoors anyways

and the best closed backs you will get will be like 500$ at most

I really can't name any other closed back apart from e-mu teak that id buy honestly

that isn't k371

[uneven minnow]

Are sennheisers any good in terms of sound quality?

[warm scarab]

they have like 2-3 good headphones

apart from that no

[uneven minnow]

Who would you recommend then?

[warm scarab]

what are you looking for?

[uneven minnow]

Sound quality mainly. Dont care too much if its wired or wireless

[warm scarab]

any budget or preferences?

[supple robin]

We have this surround sound setup, its hooked up to the via a dac/amp dvd player type thing, we want to use it to make the surround speakers play from our virgin tv box and google tv
what way would we go around this doing what want to do
pictures: https://imgur.com/a/HzoDNsL

[supple robin]

use that 20k and start investing etc. if your not already

[warm scarab]

this isn't blurry enough i can almost see what im looking at

[supple robin]

20k can be good to start

[supple robin]

its an album

[uneven minnow]

Budget i would say is around $450 to $550 max. And quality. I want something that will last and isnt just solid plastic that will break in 2 weeks

[supple robin]

ignore my phone camera isnt that good considering its a good condition s21 5g i got off ebay

only caviate with it ive noticed

[uneven minnow]

Already am

[supple robin]

good to know

[warm scarab]

do you want something that lasts long or isn't solid plastic

[supple robin]

il try and take better photo

[warm scarab]

because most of the higher end stuff is just solid plastic lmao

[uneven minnow]

In my experience, if it’s sold plastic, it wont last long

[warm scarab]

those two things aren't related

plastic is an incredibly resilient material that can survive a lot of conditions

premium feeling and build quality are completely different

hifiman shit feels like toys yet they have zero issues with build quality except for occasional driver failures, focal has super premium feeling headphones that have the headband snap after paying 2000$ for it

[supple robin]

updated the llink

[uneven minnow]

I want something that isnt going to break 2 weeks into usage

[warm scarab]

a lot of planars can die under 2 weeks because of how fragile their drivers are

but you can easily rma them because the company expects driver failures

anyhow sub 500$ best sounding headphone I can think of is hifiman edition xs

apart from that I would buy hd560s or hd6xx from sennheiser

but in my opinion xs is a lot better than either of them, though some people tend to disagree

[uneven minnow]

Not seeing either of those on the website

[warm scarab]

on the website?

[uneven minnow]

The hd560s or hd6xx on sennheisers website

[warm scarab]

6xx is only on drop

[uneven minnow]

Drop?

[warm scarab]

hd560s I don't know, they should be on there

[warm scarab]

another company

drop.com

https://www.sennheiser-hearing.com/en-US/p/hd-560s/

[uneven minnow]

So for best quality, should i connect it to an external dac?

[warm scarab]

a dac converts digital to analog

you still need an amplifier

and an amplifier would be a waste for hd560s

for hd6xx, I don't know because I dislike the headphone but others say it scales up a lot

[uneven minnow]

Anything past like $40 is going to be an upgrade cuz im just using a pair of $40 logitechs i found at the nex with my pc. As for mobile, im using airpod pro 2 but those are wearing out

[warm scarab]

if everything upwards of that makes you happy get 50$ headphones maybe

[digital trout]

Anyone have a recommendations for a set of Active (Powered) Bookshelf speakers for under $400 CAD? They're for my PC.

[lean grove]

JBL LSR305 if they're on sale, Kali LP6, or Thomann Swissonic A306

[real quartz]

any recommended headphones around 50€?

[lean grove]

koss porta pro

[real quartz]

is there anything better for a bit more money?

[lean grove]

next step up would be akg k361 or sennheiser hd560s.

[real quartz]

nothing else?

[lean grove]

porta pros are legitimately better than a lot of stuff out there

they look like library headphones but they sound very good

[real quartz]

i am just concerned about the cable

and that the headphones will be useless if the cable breaks

[lean grove]

if the cable breaks then just use the lifetime warranty, send an email, and get a new one

[clear helm]

are the linsoul 7hz timeless worth it?

[lean grove]

that being said, my porta pro cable is still going strong after it getting caught in door handles, getting accidentally zipped up in my jacket, and sub zero temperatures

[real quartz]

something thats over ear?

[lean grove]

really the thing you gotta worry about is getting hair in the driver. every few weeks or so you gotta pull out any hair that gets caught in the driver

or else the bass gets weird

[lean grove]

maybe the shp9500 if they're on sale?

i think they got discontinued actually

[real quartz]

oh

thats a big problem for me

[lean grove]

yeah idk, dude. there's slim pickings at your budget for anything i'd recommend over the porta pros or ksc75

in-ears would be a good choice. something like truthear hola.

[real quartz]

nothing gaming right?

[lean grove]

nothing that i would recommend over the porta pros or ksc75

[lean grove]

worth what?

[real quartz]

ksc75 arent in stock

[clear helm]

220$

[haughty moon]

Kph30i maybe

[lean grove]

oh. i wouldn't, personally.

[real quartz]

neither are available

[clear helm]

Hmm

[lean grove]

i have owned 3 pairs of kph30i and every time the headband has snapped as soon as the cable gets snagged.

they're otherwise my favorite koss

[clear helm]

What would you say is good in the price range

[lean grove]

most i'd pay is for the truthear hexas

but im not an iem nerd

[clear helm]

Hm ok

Ty

[lean grove]

though that might change when xmems become more popular

[real quartz]

so what do i get?

[lean grove]

idk

[haughty moon]

Used hd560s maybe

Used k612pro maybe

[real quartz]

uh.. i'd rather not

[haughty moon]

There's no problem getting used if it's substantially cheaper

[digital trout]

Just took a look at these models. I noticed a lack of RCA and Bluetooth connectivity. Do you have any recommendations for models with at least the former aforementioned connectivity option? Both would be nice though. My apologies for not specifying what connectivity options I'm looking for.

[lean grove]

check out what edifier offers in your budget

most of their models have bluetooth

[digital trout]

One of the main brands I'm looking at actually. The R1700BTs is one I'm considering.

[lean grove]

yeah that works fine

[real quartz]

well so?

[lean grove]

.

[gusty spruce]

i got pair of Edifier W820NB plus

[real quartz]

i mean i need a headset

[lean grove]

and i dont feel confident recommending anything else.
i can go around on amazon and pick something out for you that i have no experience with but thats not gonna give you a better answer than you would get yourself

[real quartz]

so i just pick in random?

[lean grove]

thats how useful i would be with picking out something in your budget which isnt what i already told you to buy

someone else might be able to help but not me

[unique wind]

neumann bs5p-arc are good

especially for pc use as you can utilize parametric eq very easily

they have basically all relevant connectors and a sub out too

[digital trout]

@lean grove The Fluance Ai61 is a set I'm highly considering. Good amount of connectivity options (RCA, BT, Optical & USB-C). Would you happen to have any knowledge/experience with the Fluance brand? They're a small Canadian company (where I'm based).

https://www.fluance.com/

[digital trout]

Thank you for the recommendation. But they unfortunately don't seem to be available in Canada.

[unique wind]

rip

[clear helm]

actually does anybody have any good cheaper headphone amps

I just need to able to adjust my headphone volume on my record player

and use my headphones in generally

https://a.co/d/24v1upz

I’ve been looking at this one

[warm scarab]

get the holas like nils said

or wait for cloud 2 to go on sale for 50$

[real quartz]

holas?

[warm scarab]

truthear holas

in ears

[real quartz]

that doesnt exist

[real quartz]

i want something tommorow

[warm scarab]

where you are looking maybe

[real quartz]

at local stores

[warm scarab]

I don't know your local stores

[real quartz]

well they dont have them

[silent haven]

Truthear hexa

The new crinicle collab seems decent for what it costs

[elder thistle]

I have a few

you're looking for detachable cable over ears yes?

then the models I have that do this are the akg k240S, mackie mc-150, behringer alpha and omega, 512 audio academy, and phillips shp9600

there are other headphones out there in this pricerange that are promising but I haven't tried yet or haven't used in a long time

ath-m20x was okay I think

same with rockville pro-m50

for koss analogues I just have the kph40 and ksc75

I would take most of these headphones over them because I don't think the koss ones are as well-rounded

[lean grove]

its $50 headphones. if something is well rounded its because there's nothing good left.

[elder thistle]

makes sense, but I've been trying a lot of cheap headphones because of this

and I was never completely sold on koss sound

I appreciate the overall balance of the two koss ones. ksc75 doing well aside from bass, kph40 doing well aside from upper treble

and I appreciate the soundstage of the ksc75 alongside it's moderate imaging fullness and precision

but they seem pretty low res. they hate bass and bass eq, they suffer fast as music becomes more intense, and quiet details are harder to hear

I'm already hearing improvements in those aspects in a $25 monoprice modern retro, while taking a hit in the other aspects of course

[elder thistle]

depending on what you want to use these for (games, music (what genres?), music production, movies, portable listening) and if it needs to isolate sound or have really good build quality, I can try to narrow down which ones you might like more

[tacit barn]

I don’t need an amp for an 80 ohm pair of DT 770/990s right

People say they’re loud enough at 30% volume

[elder thistle]

depends on your definition of loud but yes they can go over a hundred db on most computers

[tacit barn]

alr

[silent haven]

loudness doesnt always mean properly driven

plenty of headphones can get loud enough

bass is the first thing yo notice when upgrading amp

[lean grove]

thats because headphones require piss power.

if something isn't being driven well, its pretty obvious.

having 3 or 4 watts of headroom for a headphone that only really needs a few mW isn't gonna change much