audio-tech

[elder thistle]

some good non-examples I would say are the krk rokit 8's and different vst licensing systems

[white gate]

Oh god the rokits

[elder thistle]

when someone's looking for an interface, they have either usually realized that the equipment they're using is not enough or they're trying to copy a celebrity or favorite artist (which isn't tied to equipment as much as most people think, but it happens. more relevant to music styles)

if it becomes unpopular in both of these areas...

idk it's just the sense I'm getting, being around a lot of these people

oh

unison audio chords packs

that's above the rokit 8 in explosively bad reception for similar reasons

it was helping new artists get things done, but many experts spoke out about it saying they were repackaging music theory or even just the scale highlighting button in daws

[prisma flume]

does anyone know about akg k361s and k371s?

[lean grove]

yes

[unique wind]

yeah nils is an expert on those

[lyric ice]

guys I bought the hifiman arya stealth and currently have the fiio k5 pro ( non ess ) that i plan to pair it with. is it enough or should I consider upgrading the amp ?

[lean grove]

should be fine

[lyric ice]

thank you

[frosty ocean]

Wait...i think i got it...I was assuming 1-bit sample meant that the sample size was 1 bit...as in that was the range...

but i think it's 1 bit because that's just how it's conveying the digital signal...

[lean grove]

oh this is what you were asking about

yeah DSD is weird

arguably better than conventional music storage

[frosty ocean]

to be fair...i should have realised it earlier...it is called "direct stream digital"

I just thought "1-bit? that's gotta have horrible range"

[frosty ocean]

I currently have one SACD..and I don't think i'll buy one again in a while

Thankfully I have some legit and less legit ways of listening to the CD

least legit is playing the DSF I ripped from the CD on my phone with an app

most legit is probably my Sony UHD bluray player

I have some Samsung phones that some people on the internet SAY support DSD natively, and then other people say it's not real native playback.
And then I have a "hi res" chinese mp3 player that says it supports up to dsd256...but I have no idea how real that is,,,and the interface is absolute shit

[viscid tangle]

What are great headphones under $300 usd that do well in metal music I have no amp but I do have an interface

[lean grove]

hd6xx or hd600 if you can find it at a low price

[viscid tangle]

Are you sure hd600 can handle with no amp I don't plan on buying one either

[lean grove]

if you put it on an extremely crappy source may not

like some weak dongles

but otherwise on pretty much anything yeah its fine

[viscid tangle]

It'll be connected to my m1 max MacBook and my windows desktop

[lean grove]

macbook has a good audio output. should be fine

[frosty ocean]

What country are you in? does it have to be portable? you refuse to use an amp?

[viscid tangle]

Yeah it has to be portable and USA. Amps are expensive and also make the headphones difficult to travel with

I want to get a decent audio experience without needing one

[lean grove]

do you need isolation

[frosty ocean]

you said computer, so i was hoping a desktop amp would be ok,,,damn

[frosty ocean]

yeah, he needs to be committed...jk

the only portable amp I have is a bluetooth reciever

[viscid tangle]

I know they have those Bluetooth ones but $200 for decent ones is crazy

And I still gotta carry it around with me rather then just plugging them into my MacBook and pc

[frosty ocean]

I got mine for 20 at a used shop...I guess they didnt know what FiiO was

[lean grove]

yeah get the 6xx and maybe some truthear holas or truthear zero: reds if you need isolation

[frosty ocean]

https://www.amazon.com/Dacimora-High-Fidelity-Headphone-preamplifier-Adjustment/dp/B0C4TCQ79L

Probably a POS

[viscid tangle]

Alright

It's not on Amazon or any website I'll get the hd 600 then

[lean grove]

its on drop.com

[white gate]

This is true

each sample IS 1 bit. As in, can only ever be 1 or 0

as opposed to PCM where for example 16 bit can represent 65536 possible values

[frosty ocean]

but i was assuming it was a 1 bit pcm sample

I'm not very smart...lol

[white gate]

https://youtu.be/JQ_04AGOAl4?si=ElKuw8xr9P3z3wQw&t=712

11:50 in this vid

[frosty ocean]

is there a way to convert the bitstream into some kind of waveform? or is it a compressed/encrypted data steam?

ill check it later. thanks

[white gate]

Effectively the bitstream IS the waveform.
with DSD, you don't need to do any digital processing or reconstruction like PCM. You just need to filter out the high frequency switching noise

In theory you could basically slap a capacitor on the end of a USB cable and the output would be the original waveform

(Massively oversimplified but ye)

If for example you needed to output 80% amplitude for a particular period:

PCM: Sample will describe something close to 80% of amplitude. (65536/100)*80= 52428
So the PCM sample would be 52428 ( 01100110011001100 in binary, so that'd be the 16 bit sample)

DSD: Rapidly alternates between 1 (full output) and 0 (no output), millions of times per second. With it being '1' about 80% of the time. This series of pulses is then put through a capacitor/low-pass filter to filter out the high frequency switching signal components/noise and you're left with an output voltage that is close to 80%

I can show a visual demonstration tomorrow that makes it click quite easily, need to get to my office though

[frosty ocean]

Whenever I hear about "converting" dsd to PCM, it's made to sound like it's a lossy process and something is worse

is it a licensing issue? like is the bitstream encoded in a way that is considered DRM and is "protected".
The way you're describing it you could convert it to PCM maybe with a little maths

[white gate]

DSD needs no special licensing, conversion just requires maths that's all.
But that maths (particularly going from PCM to DSD) can in some cases be incredibly complex especially if you're trying to do it really high quality

[frosty ocean]

you mean DSD to PCM?

[white gate]

There are many modulators which are pretty simple, some simple enough they run on DAC chips themselves or will run on any PC with minimal impact in real time.

Others that are ridiculously effective (in this context meaning they preserve more dynamic range in the audio band, and shape quantization noise out further and more effectively) can be so compute intensive you literally need a top of the line CPU AND GPU if you want any hope of running them real time

but that's getting into the 'not necessary but kinda cool to try if you have a great audio setup' area

[white gate]

No going from DSD to PCM is actually a lot simpler.

[frosty ocean]

If I had some DSD files, how hard would it be to convert them to PCM and just use the PCM files? everything ive read seems to imply converting to PCM is icky and wrong

[frosty ocean]

So, If I just happen across a PCM to DSD converter...it's probably fake?

[white gate]

When going from DSD to PCM, it's relatively easy to work out where the waveform should be at any point, similar maths to a normal FFT / Fourier Transform. And then you can use the high precision PCM samples to just describe that amplitude.

Going the other way though....that's tricky.
because you only have a bit depth of 1, you will inherently have a lot of what's called quantization error.

Say you need to divide 1 by 3. But you can only use integers. Well the real answer is 0.33, but you can't put 0.33, you have to put 1 or 0. So you round down to 0
But now what if you need to do the same for the next sample? Keep doing this and you end up with an output that is just constantly 0. Far away from the real value, you have a quantization error of 0.33

A modulator's job is to create a bitstream that will actually produce something closer to that 0.33 final output by feeding back the quantization error, trying to generate an inverse signal, and then sum that with the original, in theory cancelling out the error. Repeat until error is as small as possible. That's a really basic explanation, but as mentioned in reality it can get so complex especially when trying to retain high levels of precision

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_shaping

[white gate]

No it'll work fine, just might not sound that good

Converting DSD to PCM or PCM to DSD is not a lossless process. There will always be some degree of alteration. How much depends on how good the modulator used is

[frosty ocean]

But it's not like I'm gonna convert my DSD64 files I got from a SACD to PCM and It's gonna suddenly be 16-bit@44.1KHz quality

What if I just jam the bitstream into a waveform file and listen to it...lol. im joking

[white gate]

There's a lot of basic tools that will do an OK job and do it quite quick. A LOT of media players and other software uses a software package called 'SoX' as the actual tool, which does an OK job.
If you wanted to get the absolute best result, a tool like HQPlayer would be needed. But that's fairly expensive and takes a 'get the best results, figure out how to build a computer that can run it later' approach

Here's an example showing how a few different tools for converting a DSD file (of various original rates) to PCM did.

The poorer ones either have outright higher noise floors, or much higher noise at high frequencies

Better modulators 'shape' quantization noise further away (out to higher frequencies) and retain more dynamic range (less noise) within that 20hz-20khz range

[frosty ocean]

"a tool like HQPlayer would be needed. But that's fairly expensive". Ahhh yes, I love money

[frosty ocean]

does this say what the bit depth of the PCM was?

[white gate]

32

Though bit depth/dynamic range is limited by the modulator not the PCM bit depth

[frosty ocean]

would using a higher depth help?

[white gate]

ehh actually nvm that's not true. Some DSD modulators exceed 24 bit precision but not many

[white gate]

No, using higher PCM bit depth basically just means you have higher dynamic range (lower noise).

Technically 16 bit is 96dB, 24 bit is 146dB, 32 bit is 194dB

But most DSD modulators will have noise floors above 194dB anyway

Also no real device actually exceeds 21 bit precision

The random noise generated by things not being absolute 0 kelvin limits it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson–Nyquist_noise

Basically if you wanted more than 21 bit precision you'd need to have your DAC/amp be liquid nitrogen cooled 😛

(or have your entire system run at immensely high voltages)

[frosty ocean]

sounds like a little too much effort for me

So, while DSD to PCM is easy, it's still a better idea to just find a device that can natively render a DSD signal to a DAC that converts it to analog?

How bad of an idea would it be to directly connect a DAC and an ADC as a way of converting DSD to PCM?

I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen 24-bit audio that wasn't just me selecting it as an option because it sounded cool

So, theoretically, this file can really only effectively render as if it were 21-bits? And that's not even considering I'm using my built in sound device on a budget motherboard

Man, I really respect Ryan Nyquist's contributions to science

[haughty girder]

...is what we told ourselves 5 years ago and yet raycons happened

I think it's a fair assumption

[lean grove]

We also didn't have open back gaming headsets being sold to the mass market

Just because we have one crappy thing still doesn't mean that progress isn't being made

[haughty girder]

we did

38x started selling three years ago, the game one which the 37x was based on was released in 2014

and till now they still haven't really taken off

[static mulch]

good studio headphones for gaming any recommendtations what about the hd 650's

[haughty girder]

if ur in the states the 6xx is the same thing but cheaper

otherwise 600 over the 650 imo

R70x is worth a consider if you're willing to get an amp

Edition XS as well if you're fine with planars, I personally don't like em that much but others do

[half fog]

edition XS if you dont mind the headband but way better soundstage and detail than 600/650

and actually has sub bass

[frosty ocean]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0859GLYP6

how bad did I do?

my favorite part was it took me about 4 tries to plug in the buds in correctly...and I hate hooks. maybe ill cut them off

[empty scarab]

Hello, Am looking for a good set of Headphones, any reccomendations? Hopefully under 200 Australian Kangaroo Coins

Preferably Wired by Ol' mate Senny or Sony

(i watch Dankpods don't judge)

131.02 USD btw

pls @ me in reply if possible

[haughty girder]

Detail is debatable

[elder thistle]

did I say the thing

no wait

I did not say the thing

https://www.thomannmusic.com/mackie_mc_450.htm

ultra super price

ultra

like if you saw the amazon price of an hd600 for $120

it depends what you're after but if you want higher resolution and instrument separation than an hd600, this has it

bright treble, about a db less sub bass than an hd600, smaller stage too
better distortion per db though, if you want to do +12db bass and listen at 85db it handles it perfectly

if the review was written in 2020 or 2021 it was likely still $300 at the time of purchase

[empty scarab]

AAah Ok

Thankyou!

[warm scarab]

you can get aftermarket headbands for it now

[frosty ocean]

If my amp has a "balanced" jack, what do I get from it, except maybe relief from paranoia related to the bygone days of segregation?

[unborn gale]

I personally don't hear a difference between balanced and stereo

Only benefit feels like it letting you use more different headphones as some headphones only come with a balanced cable.

[frosty ocean]

I was thinking of maybe spending 5 or 10 dollars on a cable since my new earbuds have what seems like somewhat standard mates for their detachability

if I'm really cheap, I can see if there are four whole lines all the way to the plug on the cable it came with and buy a 4 pole plug and make my own

oh! or make my own with speaker wire

[quiet ether]

i have the small jack to the chonky one adapter for the headphones too, i got a cheap kit https://www.glarry.co.uk/glarry-precision-electric-bass-guitar-w-20w-amplifier-p103.html?l

[frosty ocean]

do you think Bass Pro Shop would have that bass?

[elder thistle]

the appropriately named "2-pin" connector

not usb 3.2 gen 2

[frosty ocean]

who said it was usb?

[elder thistle]

I was just making fun of overcomplicated and nonsensical naming schemes

[frosty ocean]

twisted pair audio spec

[elder thistle]

do not ruin my illusion

i am happy here

[frosty ocean]

good news, it's four wires all the way to the plug

does best practices say I should split the pairs as much as possible?

Currently the earphones employ the elusive UTPoTP method

[quiet ether]

found another kit because i realised its right handed https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/VISIONSTRING-Left-Handed-Bass-Guitar-Pack-Black/5B2A?

[runic goblet]

Does somebody have a recommendation for closedback (maybe openback) headphones in the range of up to 160€? (black friday deals included)
I saw the Hi-X15 and the NTH-100 but there are so much more and i dont really have enough knowledge for a decent decision.

[frosty ocean]

If you don't specify your location, I'm just gonna assume you're in Germany

Ich bin ein kaseburger

[slim mason]

Käse*

[floral path]

My audio setup do be kinda sad rn

[frosty ocean]

Ich bin ein Käseburgen

[urban warren]

Would anyone be able to recommend a soundbar available for less than £300? I'm looking to buy one to replace my LG CS55's built-in speakers

[runic goblet]

käseburgir here aswell

[frosty ocean]

Kann ich käseburgir haßen?

[white gate]

Basically it's preferable to find a DAC that can actually play DSD natively. Many DACs can't though and a lot are a bit misleading in that regard. Many DACs will label themselves as having 'Native DSD' when actually that's referring to the native DSD ASIO protocol, NOT native DSD conversion. They still convert to PCM internally.

But it's also not 'terrible' to just convert to PCM. After all, better to actually be able to play the tracks rather than not listen at all

[haughty girder]

oh it comes with an amp

it's defo not a great one but it should do

[quiet ether]

yea

[eager quiver]

How are the samsung buds 2 for 60? Any other good wireless buds at that pricepoint?

Would the bids 2 pro be better value?

[floral path]

the setup is officially un-sad

the new toy arrived

IT TINY 🖤

[haughty girder]

yea interfaces almost always look bigger in the pictures

[deep zodiac]

https://amzn.eu/d/301NfA7

Would this sound bar be at all comparable to sound quality from a set of powered speakers like the edifier 1280s? I have my TV wall mounted above my bed with my couch opposite (just ended up the best way to do it with space constraints) and so I dont have any surface to put my speakers on. However if the sounds is comparable a soundbar would also be fine by me since I did always struggle to hear dialogue on the powered speakers just due to the lack of a centre channel.

I'm not a huge audiophile, but when I put my TV in game mode the sound is actually just really bad. When just watching Netflix through the app and the TV isn't in game mode it's alright, but while gaming I'm basically stuck with only headphones atm

[haughty girder]

exception being stuff like the ssl2 and anything that resembles that (ie. air192)

[floral path]

Doesn't help I took the pic with my phone

and added radial blur in PS

[haughty girder]

basically all of the galaxy buds except for the beans are a safe bet, get one that's in ur budget and it'll be good

[haughty girder]

The less effects the better tbh

for these snapshot pictures

[floral path]

oh absolutely not, that was supposed to look silly

they convey very different messages.

I opted for the silly option.

[floral path]

what am I looking at

Is it a weird composite image or an AI-generated one?

[lean grove]

It's a shoe horn

[rare comet]

Hey all, I was wondering if you guys could help me pick out a sound bar? I imagine that's the best choice for a tv audio setup in a small living room in an apartment for under $200?
I made a list of some soundbars I found around this price point, are any of these good? https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3369AZ72TUQAI?ref_=wl_share
Or do you think a soundbar isn't the right option? I definitely want something better than my tv speakers I can barely hear people talk

[frosty ocean]

"Shoes Horn"

[whole zodiac]

I just tested out how much my amp draws when I put my music up really loud. At my max comfortable volume (lvl 4/10 on the amp and 100% on Windows), I got it to draw a casual 191W peak xD. My two speakers are rated for 170W nominal each

[eager quiver]

thanks, I was also looking at the nekocake but Ive heard very mixed things about it

[lean grove]

moondrop space travel is also a newer option

[hidden tendon]

Do radios count as audio tech? 😅🥴

[lean grove]

technically yes but i dont know how much people here will be able to help

[eager quiver]

is it decent, i know that theres been trouble in translating the price to perf they have in the chu and the aria to TWS

[lean grove]

if you like the harman in-ear target then yeah they look pretty good.

i know some people find the harman IE target kind bright so it looks like it avoids that in the treble

[haughty girder]

nekocakes are alright, but the anc is weak

if you want ANC, get the buds pro or 2 or smth with anc

if you want cheap, space travel is a better tuned nekocake without anc

I had two pairs of nekocakes one 2021 version and one 2022 version

2022 was better in every way except for fit and comfort

but I wouldn't get them over the space travel

[rare comet]

Anyone have any opinions between these 2 soundbars?
LG S65Q: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09RZ8WWYK/?coliid=I3T4B4UNV5EGOX&colid=3369AZ72TUQAI&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
Vizio V51x-J6: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CGVTVMN/?coliid=I1X00XNWO2ZGFP&colid=3369AZ72TUQAI&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

Is it better to go for the 5.1?

[stuck garden]

what's a budget pre-amp with a clean output?

my mic is too soft rn with an audio interface

[lean grove]

By soft do you mean quiet?

[stuck garden]

yeah

im running the arturia minifuse with an sm58

my gain is maxed

[lean grove]

Hmmm. There's quite a few in-line pre-amps

The last time I looked into them it was like 3 years ago so idk what the newest and bestest is right now

Look on sweetwater for one that fits your budget and find a sound demo on YouTube

[stuck garden]

could it also be that my laptop isn't suppying enough power?

[lean grove]

Doubt it. If your laptop didn't have enough power you'd run into clipping. And things would sound broken, not quiet.

[haughty girder]

unlikely, try boosting in software first and take a sample

If it sounds broken then try a powered usb hub

[stuck garden]

it's clear

the audio quality's clear

[haughty girder]

if it sounds fine then either just keep boosting it in software (you can do a fair bit, minifuse has a pretty low noise floor)

[stuck garden]

is it possible to digital gain my input signal then?

[haughty girder]

Yes

that's what I was referring to

[stuck garden]

what software do i use?

[haughty girder]

I use equalizer APO

but most software will work

[stuck garden]

im on mac 💀

[haughty girder]

oh.

I'm not sure

Wait is input volume maxxed in macos too?

just doubelchecking

[haughty girder]

any eq app on macos should work fine, as long as it has a pregain slider

[stuck garden]

i don't think i can change input level

[haughty girder]

double-click the minifuse 1

[noble axle]

the 6xx's sound great based off of the 3 songs ive listened to so far manythanks for the reccomendation

[lean grove]

Welcome to hifi 🙏

[noble axle]

my money will soon be gone

this lil ka1 makes a decent hand warmer

[elder thistle]

try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85drl9-lqRU

[frosty ocean]

What are you looking at? GMRS? SW? LW? MW?

[molten lotus]

ok so im doing my black friday shopping and i want some opinions im looking for a loud party speaker but that doesnt have complete shit sound quality but its gotta be loud.
https://www.amazon.com/Pathfinder-All-Weather-Speaker-Premium-Wide-Angle/dp/B092KFKQ47/
https://www.amazon.com/Rockville-Battery-Powered-Portable-Bluetooth/dp/B08KWLSY15/
https://www.amazon.com/Tribit-StormBox-Blast-Portable-Speaker/dp/B09PMYTJD2/

[hidden tendon]

Idk honestly I got an rtlsdr v5 on Amazon and it should be here tmrw I heard that was a good one for beginners to get into radio's and stuff and I was going to see if anyone had some tips or advice cause I have no idea wtf I'm doing lol

[frosty ocean]

I have a handheld self-contained unit myself. I just set it on scan usually.
If that thing supports air traffic channels, is suggest looking up your local frequencies. just know you can't really scan for them

if the software lefts you set squelch and then scan each channel for an hour, you still might not get all the channels

[minor patio]

looking for recommendations on good wireless earbuds under or around $100 or usally under or around that on sale

[molten lotus]

bump

[hidden tendon]

For a second there I thought you were playing zelda off the radio

[frosty ocean]

I used software to define my radio as an N64...jk

[forest grove]

Hi,
I want to purchase a soundbar (Sennheiser AMBEO Soundbar Plus) and I want to connect it to my portable PC with a DAC. Someone can help me to choose between the three:

• Creative Sound Blaster X4
• SMSL PO100 Pro MQA USB DDC
• SMSL PO100 AK MQA AK4493S USB DAC

PS: I can take any other suggestion for another DAC

[ancient solstice]

Anyone got good headset recommendations. Been using a wireless razer headset for a while now, but I'd love to get something with better audio quality. Looked at the DT 770 pro which seems nice, but they also come in multiple ohm variants etc. And I would probably need something to power them too maybe?

Very much open to other suggestions too

I was going to get the blackshark v2 pros from razer, but I'm getting tired of the noticable quality fluctuations of my Razer nari which is why I'm considering going back to wired

[unique wind]

the dac is in the soundbar itself, you run an optical cable from your computer to the soundbar

[forest grove]

I have a laptop
so do you know a good converter usb-C to optic who can go up to 192Khz

[forest grove]

i think i just found that the

• SMSL PO100 Pro
  is not a DAC but just a converter up to 32 bits/768 kHz for 60 dollars.
  is it a good choice?

[forest grove]

i think to have all the option, i need an HDMI splitter to sends one signal to my second screen and another one to the soundbar

https://www.amazon.fr/FeinTech-VAX01202-Extracteur-téléviseur-récepteurs/dp/B08TX473Z8?th=1
is this good?

[sly swan]

Is it possible to use A four pin XLR in place of a 4pin headphone jack? or is the protocol just so vastly different? Like the mapping of the wires is not remotely close

Like I’m thinking of literally rewiring it was one because it’s way more durable but if it’s not possible then whatever

[loud rampart]

hello there, here again to have confirmation about some 20$ jack cabled earbuds

are truthear hola the best option for the money?

[sly swan]

I can look at them. I can’t be that hard to tell if there were 20 bucks.

If that’s what you mean

I can’t be that hard to tell if they were worth

Using the stupid auto dictate thing and it’s being a dick

[lean grove]

Uhhh, technically you can. But I expect bad things to happen if you plug it into gear that wasn't designed for it.

Instead you should look at 2.5mm or 4.4mm connectors for balanced.

[lean grove]

Yes

[loud rampart]

thanks

[rocky spruce]

so im looking for some decent earbuds, i dont really have a budget set, i was thinking of getting nothing ear 2 but i dont know whats the sount quality, what should i get ?

[lean grove]

Airpod pro 2's are the best in class right now. Even if you're on android.

[rocky spruce]

out of my price range

[lean grove]

Okay.

How do you feel about wire-less

[rocky spruce]

wdym ?

[lean grove]

Something like this. A qudelix 5k and some nice wired earbuds.

[rocky spruce]

to be honest, if it allow me to get decent sound but for cheap, im in

was mostly going wireless at first cause well phone has no jack port

also needed something not bothersome for travelling

since welp, my headphone are big, and have cable that annoy me

[rocky spruce]

so yeah fine with that, would still prefer actual wireless

[lean grove]

This is gonna be the best imo

Wireless earbuds are overpriced and only a handful of them compete with the budget wired memes

And if you wanna upgrade in the future, you can just get a better pair of iems or headphones

Qudelix 5k and truthear holas.

[rocky spruce]

the qudelix 5K is 139 euro

[haughty girder]

I mean space travel is pretty solid for its price

[rocky spruce]

just for i suppose a adapter

kinda ?

[rocky spruce]

also my budget is of around 100 euro

[haughty girder]

Tangzu wan'er is the cheapest of the 20 dollar trio, bt20 pro?

[lean grove]

It's a lot more than that but if it's out of budget then then yeah go for the moondrop space travel as nexgen proposed

[lean grove]

Like I said. Only a handful.

[haughty girder]

yea

unfortunately

actually wait for cyber monday and try to snipe a galaxy buds

[rocky spruce]

how good are those ?

[haughty girder]

+/pro/2/pro2 are all solid

[lean grove]

They're tuned pretty well and from what I've seen the app is pretty nifty. I can't vouch for the user experience

[haughty girder]

and should have some big discounts

[rocky spruce]

cyber monday dont mean shit here in france

[haughty girder]

The app is useless

[rocky spruce]

nor do black friday

[haughty girder]

ah

its fine then, perhaps galaxy buds 2 fit ur budget

But yea space travel is a better tuned nekocake without anc

[rocky spruce]

alright, if i were to go higher than 20 euro, what should i look for ?

[haughty girder]

I'm not a big fan of the case (I'd highly recommend the first party cover they sell) but it's overall still pretty decent

[rocky spruce]

hold on let me look real quick

[lean grove]

Galaxy buds

[haughty girder]

Any galaxy buds that's not the beans are good

[lean grove]

But idk if galaxy buds are gonna be 4-5x as good as the moondrop space travel

[rocky spruce]

they fit just in my budget

[lean grove]

They're gonna fit in your pocket and work better I think

But sound quality should be somewhat even

[rocky spruce]

well thats perfect, imma go with the galaxy ear buds then

[haughty girder]

at the price? no. But it's still much more refined

[rocky spruce]

battery life should be better right ?

[haughty girder]

the buds 2 are 5 hours I believe? and space travel is 4

[rocky spruce]

and just a last question, are they decently comfy? like some ear buds feel like absolute shit to wear

[haughty girder]

if you really care about battery life get the buds+

[rocky spruce]

thats pretty good for me

[rocky spruce]

nah 5 hour is a lot already

[haughty girder]

they're a little older but they have 11 hours of life per bud

o okok

[rocky spruce]

thanks for the help

im going with the galaxy earbuds 2 then

[haughty girder]

for the buds 2 (and pro shape in general) it can be a little hit or miss, it was pretty good for me but can be an issue for people with tiny ears (that said the only tws that I haven't heard these complaints about is the airpods pro)

but I'd say they're pretty good

[rocky spruce]

i got ears like dumbo so ill be fine lol

[haughty girder]

ah yea then should be fine

[rocky spruce]

Perfect then

[viscid tangle]

Do I need a dac and an amp for Hifiman sindaras

[lean grove]

"need" is a strong word

They'll work without one.

[viscid tangle]

I meant for like a decent listening experience heard headphones can sound pretty bad without one

[warm scarab]

you need to not get them instead

one of my worse audio purchases

[lean grove]

It depends. I would always recommend getting the headphones and deciding if you want a proper DAC and amp later on.

If you hate the headphones, a better DAC and amp won't fix it. If you love them, a better DAC and amp will make them better.

No need to spend even more money on your headphones before you decide if you like them.

[timber folio]

Hi guys! With Black Friday coming up, I wanted to pair a good entry level Sound Bar with my TV to watch like Netflix, Apple TV, Disney+, Youtube and etc. And also use it to play my Switch Games

Something that isn't too expensive, just a good entry level to take my sound quality better than just TV speakers. But nothing too crazy cuz I don't want to disturb my neighbors.

Maybe a budget of around $200?

I would also prefer something that is as easy as plug in play and not too complicated where you have to adjust settings per X thing that you're doing or watching. Like you know, "This has the BEST sound quality, but you have to faff around with the settings everytime you turn it on." I would rather not have that pls XD

[sly swan]

It Actually does You just have to use an actual audio XLR cable not yaknow like a …. Light xlr

I’m sure if I just got the connectors or something like that and just made it myself that would be fine or I could just make my own connector

It’s not like every manufacture, doesn’t do anyway 👀

[normal peak]

you could go for galaxy buds 2

or pro

sound aint terrible, good feature set

oh nexgen already mentioned that nvm

[lean grove]

As far as I know, not many (or any that I can think of) use a 3.5mm for balanced connection unless it's also directly compatible with single ended as well.

Plugging a single ended headphone into a balanced plug willy nilly is an easy way to break your amplifier.

But you do you. If you short something and it breaks, well, you were warned.

[steel escarp]

Should I get 6xx

For the memes

It probably cant even stage or have the same bass response as dt880

But for the memes

[lean grove]

The 6xx is better than the dt880

[unique wind]

yeah it definitely cant do bass but for everything else it beats 880

[lean grove]

So yes this would be the first good purchase you've ever made

[unique wind]

the 880 cant really do bass either though

[unique wind]

bros about to buy a headphone that doesnt have spikey treble for the first time ever

[steel escarp]

It does on my amp

[unique wind]

when i say do bass i mean eq'd to harman with reasonable or preferably no distortion

[steel escarp]

It's flat

Extended

Harman bass is boosted

I have heard 0 dynamics that had a bass shelve without distorted bass

I don't think it exists

[covert nova]

anyone here have any experience with the creative pebble v2 (2.0)?

[steel escarp]

I bought them

get the ones that have a subwoofer

else it is gonna have virtually no bass

which is more significant than you think

@covert nova its the same price with and without subwoofer here

[covert nova]

I already have the ones without it, bought them 2 years ago
I am thinking about upgrading not sure what the next leap/step should be
it's not like I am mixing music or anything
I mainly watch shows and youtube reactions, plus game

[steel escarp]

the pebles have very boosted bass around 166hz and 240hz when placed on your desk, like its around 12dB louder around those frequencies

which makes them really boomy and bloated

if you EQ those out they sound way better

I got mine to sound pretty good with EQ, the drivers themselves are honestly pretty competent

[covert nova]

Bty, doing one of those "Bass Test - 2000Hz - 1Hz", my speakers go silent at around 67Hz

[steel escarp]

do you have the one with a subwoofer?

[covert nova]

no

[steel escarp]

silent around 67Hz means it falls off hard around 100Hz

[covert nova]

it feels like it sharply dropped at around 120Hz

[steel escarp]

I EQ the 6k peak on my dt880 and it sounds fine now

[steel escarp]

yeah...

if you want cheap get them with a subwoofer

sell your current ones

[covert nova]

I mean, rn I am fine going to the 200 price range

[steel escarp]

the 2.1

the sub goes down to 50Hz...

not that deep

but for the price

not bad

[lean grove]

That's perfectly normal for a speaker their size.

If you want speakers that go low they can't be small. And if they are going low and they are small, then extreme sacrifices are being made

[steel escarp]

if you have the budget get the pebble v2.1 with a calibration mic like the minidsp UMIK-1

[covert nova]

but what exactly does bass improve/affect?
I am quite unknowledgeable about audio
tbh I am mainly looking for "sharper" voices
rn it feels like whenever I am watching a show the voices are a bit echo-y

[steel escarp]

maybe you are having trouble with the frequencies that are boosted in the bass area

that echo-y sound could be where its resonating with your desk

[lean grove]

Bass makes things sound fuller, bigger, more impactful.

If you want clear voices, that can be a result of just poor placement. Put your speakers closer to you and maybe put them on some stands. Like on a can of soup or something.

[steel escarp]

the pebbles are angled upwards nils...

no stands needed

[lean grove]

They're also full range drivers so a little bit off axis isn't gonna hurt anyone

[covert nova]

my speakers are under the monitor, which is within an arm's length

[lean grove]

Also if they sound worse just take them off the cans of soup

No cost to trying this

[warm scarab]

the boom and rumble

a lot of the uh

[covert nova]

but what I mean by echo-y
is like, imagine you are at a large gym and someone is speaking in a mic, but despite the volume being loud, the voice sounds "blurry"

[warm scarab]

"entertainment" of audio resides in bass for most end users

not as much when you get deeper into audio a lot but bass is very important in any case

things will be very soulless without it

[steel escarp]

@covert nova play this and check if somewhere in the sub 300Hz region the sound suddenly gets way louder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAsMlDptjx8

for me its boosted around 166 and 240Hz

[warm scarab]

20-130hz is the general bass area you want to have fyi

[covert nova]

sound started at 70s
it got a lot more intense in the late 300s/early 400s

[steel escarp]

so its flat throughout 70-300Hz?

no difference in volume?

[lean grove]

Yeah that's almost certainly from placement in your room. The speakers are projecting sound everywhere and the echos are bouncing off your walls. You can move the speakers closer to you so the echos are relatively quieter. Move the speakers away from surfaces that will make the echos (your desk, your walls, your monitor). Or you can buy a speaker that has a focused sound

Which for $200 idk any speakers that would necessarily do that. You'd want something with a big front baffle or a horn.

[covert nova]

not flat as in 0 change
just slight gradual change, very slow

[warm scarab]

yeah that's pretty bad lol

[covert nova]

the "sharp" increase happens at 300s/400s

[steel escarp]

hm

[warm scarab]

not hearing below 70hz

[steel escarp]

completely different than the v3

[covert nova]

yeah my room is quite small
between my back and the wall are 3 arm lengths, then from me to the monitor/speakers is an arms length, and the monitor is sticking to the wall facing me

but as I mentioned, the speakers are extremely close to me

[steel escarp]

are you in a triangle

btw as for getting more expensive speakers, don't bother if your room is ass.

[covert nova]

rectangle
I am facing the "long" side
monitor is sticking to said wall, with speakers under it and me sitting within an arm's length

[steel escarp]

that is not what I meant

[covert nova]

like the speakers? I have them next to each other under the monitor

[steel escarp]

triangle as in the distance between you and your speakers are the same as the distance between your speakers

[lean grove]

I would say move them closer still. Just to try it out at least.

[steel escarp]

I wish there was a way to measure the effect of the hrtf of the individual ears so I could use that in EQ

[lean grove]

It's completely unnecessary tho

[covert nova]

did this, sounds a bit nicer

[lean grove]

The in-room response is gonna translate flawlessly to your personal hrtf

Because you have a head and torso already factored into your listening experience

[steel escarp]

it did not for my speaker system

maybe my left ear is just fucked

[lean grove]

You just removed your head and torso

Or what

Might be. You can just change the channel balance. that's the easiest eq possible

[steel escarp]

my left ear does not hear any peaks on the he1000 stealth

[lean grove]

Maybe your left ear is immune to your placebo

[steel escarp]

the angle I force the driver in changes the loudness

[lean grove]

Oh you mean for headphones

I thought you wanted an hrtf for speakers

[steel escarp]

yeah

for headphone system

[lean grove]

Get some in-ear mics.

[steel escarp]

I swear how symmetrical the nasal cavity is also affects your hearing

[lean grove]

Probably

HATS simulate a lot of the inside of the head

[steel escarp]

HATS?

[lean grove]

Head and torso simulator

[steel escarp]

cool

[lean grove]

But that should factor into your personal hrtf. Which your brain should compensate for and perceive as "neutral"

[steel escarp]

its basically permanently irritated in there for me on the left side

I have special nasal spray for it but it does not feel good to take so I dont

[lean grove]

Have you seen a doctor

[steel escarp]

I have

the hearing tests at the hospital basically only verify if you can hear well enough to understand speach

they went in there with a camera and it was really irritated

the nasal spray also hurts like hell in your throat

it doesn't hurt inside my nose

[lean grove]

Built different I guess

[covert nova]

what do you guys think about the edifier mr4?

[warm scarab]

good for price

[covert nova]

is it best-in-price-range?

[steel escarp]

huh passive speakers

you will need a separate amplifier

[warm scarab]

mr4 aren't passive?

you are looking at the pair without the amp grey

[covert nova]

I am looking at the amazon listing
it says "Speaker type: Woofer, Amplifier"
how do I know if it is passive?

are the pebbles passive?

[warm scarab]

don't worry about it

you don't need an amp for them and they are good price/performance

grey is just being himself

id say go for it

[icy salmon]

anyone have stereo speaker reccomendations that are under 200$

for a pc

[warm scarab]

the mr4 this guy is getting are pretty good

jbl 305p if you can find a pair second hand

[icy salmon]

this them?

[maiden badger]

oh look badger you got a very fast reply

[icy salmon]

yeah saw that it was fairly active

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-emoji-thumbs-up-good-gif-17437124

[warm scarab]

yea

[icy salmon]

@warm scarab do these need any kind of external amp that isnt included?

[warm scarab]

all built in

[icy salmon]

awesome

thanks for the reccomendation

[warm scarab]

np

you might need to buy a cable though

[icy salmon]

what kind? AUX?

or 6mm?

[warm scarab]

let me see give me a second

should have 6.5mm

yeah you will need dual 6.5mm

or rca

[icy salmon]

6.5mm? never heard of that

oh wait that IS RCA?

[warm scarab]

nah

this is 6.5mm

[icy salmon]

hmm interesting

[warm scarab]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Composite-cables.jpg

rca

[icy salmon]

right

[warm scarab]

yellow is for display and you don't need it

[icy salmon]

without the video cable ofc

[warm scarab]

yea lol

if you plan to connect this to your motherboard's audio out

just google 3.5mm to rca

or 3.5mm to dual 6.5

[icy salmon]

so normal guitar jack/ audio jack is 6mm right

and not 6.5

[warm scarab]

thats also 6.5

[icy salmon]

those are 6.5?

[warm scarab]

regular audio jacks are 3.5mm

[icy salmon]

right i knew that

[warm scarab]

totally

[icy salmon]

just always thought the thicker one was 6mm

[covert nova]

why not just connect it to the monitor? I saw someone do that in an unboxing video for those speakers

[icy salmon]

my monitors have shitty amps

[warm scarab]

monitor outputs are like joke tier

generally

no idea how they fuck it up that bad

[icy salmon]

maybe my asus or LG is okay but id rather use my pc or my preamp

[warm scarab]

pc or apple dongle is alright

[icy salmon]

i think my mobo has a good audio system

im using my scarlet solo for my headphones and mic tho

this is what my mobo claims for audio

[warm scarab]

pretty meaningless tbh

[icy salmon]

figured

[warm scarab]

audio specs are generally not worth shit

[icy salmon]

i remember my old msi mobo claimed to have like top tier audio amps and the audio on that was shit

i ended up using a thrift store reciever that drew like 800 watts to use my headphones lol

[covert nova]

which motherboard port am I supposed to put a 3.5mm aux-in in?

[icy salmon]

green

nvm, blue

[warm scarab]

depends on motherboard

mine was red lol

[icy salmon]

lmao

[warm scarab]

look for whatever has a headphone icon on it

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-knight-death-bridge-gif-21185062

[warm scarab]

or just try random ports

[icy salmon]

my mobo has good io

[lean grove]

i dont think ive ever seen anyone actually use those 5.1 outputs

they're on just about every high end mobo but nobody uses them

[icy salmon]

whats crazy is my motherboard has gone up in value over time

they dont make these anymore

[lean grove]

whats so special about it

[icy salmon]

x570 board without a chipset fan

its passively cooled

[warm scarab]

i don't understand computers why is that good

[icy salmon]

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-wifi-ii-model/spec/

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-clapping-applause-applaud-cheerleader-gif-12591824

[lean grove]

fans make noise and break

[warm scarab]

because you can add your own cooling?

[lean grove]

no fan = less noise and less break

[icy salmon]

x570 kinda sucks because theres a shitty little fan over the chipset that is loud

[covert nova]

no icons, just words
rear
c/sub
line in
line out

[icy salmon]

2 asus x570 boards

[warm scarab]

line out

[lean grove]

line out is the one you want

[icy salmon]

well if its mic, line in. headphones, line out

is it frowned upon to mount speakers horizontally

i dont have a lot of vertical space above my monitors

[covert nova]

would using the apple usb-c dongle be better?

plug it into a usb c port?

[lean grove]

maybe

try it out and listen

[icy salmon]

where should i put speakers

[lean grove]

on the floor next to the shoes
||/s||

[icy salmon]

lmao

[lean grove]

triple monitor makes that kind hard

ideally you'd put speakers where the monitors are

[icy salmon]

yeah, i would put above where the monitors are if it wasnt for the pc

[lean grove]

you can put them above the monitors pointing down at you with the right mounting hardware

[covert nova]

plugged it into the line out, but now only one of the speakers has sound

[lean grove]

is it plugged in all the way

[covert nova]

yes

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[icy salmon]

i think i can make speakers work

thinking maybe just clamps on either side of the desk, on the outside edge of triple monitors

[haughty girder]

x570 normally has a chipset fan because its die is (supposedly) reject zen 2 processors

so not exactly the most efficient thing to use as a chipset

UNFORTUNATELY most motherboards include a crappy fan that's kinda whiney and generally bad

so those that just use a hunk of metal rather than a fan are rare and sought after

[icy salmon]

i think it is also a top spec x570, which adds to its value

[molten skiff]

well I was told to use eqalizer apo to eq but the program dont even work

[viscid tangle]

Aren't they one of the best headphones under $300?

[lean grove]

sounds like you set it up wrong

[molten skiff]

I reinstalled it twice it closes as soon as I open it

I cant even change anything

[lean grove]

did you install peaceUI

you need peaceUI to work with equalizerAPO

[molten skiff]

well the peace one works but apo still isnt working

[lean grove]

the APO is just a background thing

[molten skiff]

it dont stay open for longer than like a second

[lean grove]

the peace one is the one you want to use

[molten skiff]

Ngl this shit looks kinda confusing

So many soldiers and shit

Sliders*

[lean grove]

what headphones are you trying to EQ

[molten skiff]

HD560s

[lean grove]

okay. how do you want to EQ them

[molten skiff]

Give more bass

[lean grove]

download this text file

hit the import button

select the text file

10db bass boost with a slight tilt

[molten skiff]

ok

[molten skiff]

when I launch program it keeps saying audio enhancments isnt enabled but when I got to windows setting It wont let me trun it on do I need to worry about this ?

[lean grove]

idk how to help you from there

[elder thistle]

yes enable audio enhancements

this is the window you want to get to, through control panel > hardware and sound > sound

is that the way you tried it?

naturally you must right click > properties for the actual output device you're using

sometimes when it's a lot of realtek stuff it's hard to tell

and you'll probably have to rerun the eqAPO configurator and restart

apparently peace can break things too, eqapo at it's core is buggy freeware

[noble axle]

found a comfort issue with the hd6xx, its not the usual clamping issue its the headband shape.
the sharp edges of the cushion dig into my head is there any way to combat this other than scissors and time?

[warm scarab]

did you try adjusting the headband length

[dark storm]

what can I do to reduce noise when using https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Digital-Analog-Audio-Converter/dp/B07V1JM8GR

to convert a optical audio stream to aux on a soundbar

my motherboard does not have an optical out

open to alternative solutions as well

tried multiple ways to supply the coverter power, between having its own outlet, usb > brick, physically seperating it from powered devices, etc...

[quiet ether]

yummy blown speaker

it stinks lmao

[sleek jewel]

Im looking at getting a new microphone, what would everyone recommend?

[fierce pond]

I work from home quite a lot and I use my PC for calls a lot. I have a yamaha mixer I use for my mic, headphones and speakers atm
I prefer using my speakers, so everytime I get a call, I rush to turn off my speakers and put on my headphones before accepting it. Is there a mixer or interface out there, where I can route the Headphones and Speakers to different outputs in windows?

[fierce pond]

what are you willing to spend? There are a lot of options between 50 and 5000 bucks

do you already own an interface?

[calm lagoon]

i have Audio-Techinca ATH-M50Xs, is there any way to further improve audio quality? (software/hardware)

[lean grove]

You can probably find some way to use a hotkey to switch between audio outputs. A quick Google shows that there's a lot of tutorials for that.

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/PsijHAVLbuY

[fierce pond]

Well I'd love to have a setup like that, but my mixer is just one output in windows. Then it sends audio to the headphones and speakers at the same time. Thats why I need tto turn them off

[lean grove]

Yeah in that case I don't think you can. How about an audio switcher? There's tons of Amazon that let you switch between speakers and headphones. You just gotta find one with the ins and outs you you want.

[fierce pond]

I'm mainly asking for a device that shows up as different devices to windows, because the program I use to take calls, supports setting a different device for ringtones. So I could keep my speakers on for ringtones and just put my headphones on for calls

an audio switcher like that would make my switching arround easier, but I'd like a solution that doesnt need me switching audio devices some way anytime I get a call

[lean grove]

If your audio is routed through a single mixer with one windows output then idk how you'd manage to make an entirely new device in Windows that can switch through your mixer automatically

[fierce pond]

I'm asking if anyone knows other interfaces or mixers that can do that

that have seperate headphone and speaker outputs in windows

[lean grove]

You would need two mixers, I think

And then some fancy software that lets you route very specific things to very specific places.

Oh. Yeah idk. Goxlr might be what you want but they're defunct.

See what digital mixers streamers use these days.

[calm lagoon]

what ID3 tagging program do you recommend? (must support MP3 and FLAC). i normally use EasyTAG, but i'm having issues with it.

[fierce pond]

every program in the world letts you set in and outputs I dont get what you mean

I was hoping not to use 2 mixers, since it seems like an overcomplicated solution. I was hoping some of the interfaces with good software could be a solution, like the presonus revelator io but I dont find a lot about it.

[lean grove]

I would try and find a different community that focuses more on streaming

Epos vox maybe

Because this is something that streamers have to deal with all the time.

Podcastage might be another good community

[fierce pond]

thats true, I'll try that thanks

[lean grove]

Sorry I could help 😔

But gl

[sleek jewel]

Im looking around 100aud, i dont have an audio interface

Hard cap of 200aud

[vestal sky]

Hey, I'm brand new to all audio stuff, and I bought a relatively cheap microphone. Specifically https://a.co/d/2tqqIRn. I'm getting all the indication that its connected, I'm seeing it pop up in my settings and it's not recieving audio. Any ideas?

[haughty girder]

is it muted?

I've seen similar designs where it's a capacitive mute switch on top

but can be in other places

[warm scarab]

you didn't fill the bloodpot in the mic

[haughty girder]

ok ye check if it's muted, the top is a capacitive mute switch

[lean grove]

Those things usually come pre-filled

[vestal sky]

Its unmuted when it glows

[warm scarab]

with lowlander chineseum blood

how high quality

[elder thistle]

@fierce pond If I understand correctly, this is somethong you can do with a 4 output channel interface

for example: my motu m4 uses out 1-2 as the main outputs. that goes through the speaker volume knob and the headphone one. but out 3-4 is a 2nd windows device with no volume knob, just windows volume. those outputs can be hooked up to either a pair of speakers/speaker amp or a headphone amp

which means I can have a game going through open back headphones while listening to vc on speakers

ideally not speakers with no volume knob of sorts if I'm using them on out 3-4

alternatively it is possible to listen to out 1-2 and out 3-4 at the same time with 2 patch cables, monitoring button, and a ratio

which ultimately comes out of out 1-2

[fierce pond]

that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for!

I've been looking at a bunch of 4channel interfaces, but I havent found an example of someone showing the windows settings or setting it up, like I'd like

[spice dust]

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[elder thistle]

sus

[dark storm]

Hope you got an one hell of an interface / amp

[elder thistle]

I'll record a demo so we can make sure we're talking about the same thing

also idk if other 4 channel interfaces have the same options, it will require some research

[compact cliff]

I’m trying to replace my Razer Kraken Tournament Edition headphones with something that has really good surround sound for gaming, any suggestions? (that isn’t razer because of the recent software issues)

[dark storm]

“Surround sound” is a lie. It’s just an EQ pretending to be wider

[lean grove]

Check out the audeze Maxwell

[elder thistle]

hyperx cloud alpha was the best I've heard for this kind of stuff. the spatializer is built right into the remote

usb

[compact cliff]

Does it have proprietary software?

[elder thistle]

nope, nothing

I wouldn't say it sounds great though

actually overall it's balanced sounding but low detail like good $30 wired headphones

[compact cliff]

Idk before the synapse shenanigans, there was a major difference with THX surround sound that had both accurate 360 audio with nice vertical audio

[elder thistle]

but I found the utility of it really powerful in dead by daylight, minecraft, and titanfall II for example

the spatializer in the remote is very clean sounding unlike the one in the hyperx cloud II where it becomes washed over with reverbs and strange tonality

[compact cliff]

I’d would like something as close to the razer kraken te in terms of audio quality (without the cursed software)

[elder thistle]

I may be able to record some audio of it so you can judge the quality somewhat, as well as a comparison headphone

but yeah I have no idea what the kraken sounds like

so hard to say

[compact cliff]

I’m not an audiophile but I will say is that before the decrepit update, the thx surround sound mode didn’t sacrifice audio quality and it was accurate with audio direction.

[elder thistle]

I also have a razer blackshark v2x and cloud II for headphones I consider to have subjectively better sound quality

with the v2x having poor tonality but surprisingly resolving

[compact cliff]

Was your razer headphones effected by the new update?

[elder thistle]

not sure. I had both the spatial audio app and thx 7.1 which was like the premium version for $10

they didn't update (probably because of my firewall) and I could only get their free spatial audio app to work

but I liked that it was clean sounding and pretty subtle

[compact cliff]

You pay for the thx app?

[dark storm]

Sennheiser HD598 (I don’t think they produce anymore) have a very flat almost reference feel to them. I’d say find something similar than use a 3rd party EQ like equalizerAPO to shape them however you want

In the end headphones are just 2 drivers against your ears. Marketed audio profiles are easily reproducible

[elder thistle]

yeah but it only works in a few games

[molten lotus]

Where can I find recommendations

[elder thistle]

but it actually worked in none of them lol

[molten lotus]

I heard there’s a list from the amd upgrade video

[compact cliff]

Lol at this point I’d like a pair of headphones that have AirPod audio quality 💀

[molten lotus]

For like sound systems and subwoofers

[dark storm]

Ok air pods pro are quite remarkably good

But earbuds ain’t it long term

[elder thistle]

well the difference is that all headphones portray positional audio cues differently, not just from tone

and games have been optimized to work with the general imaging/occlusion behavior of cheap gaming headsets

even if they overall sound "bad"

[dark storm]

Tragic

[molten lotus]

Any good sound system pick ups for Black Friday?

[elder thistle]

also some of these headsets, like when paired with software or firmware, are able to conditionaly amplify or further separate these cues

[dark storm]

Cop a 2.1 samsung sound bar, those things have come a long way.

[elder thistle]

in a way that's optimized for that particular headphone in the case of a remote

[dark storm]

I have a hard time believing this, because you introduce some sort of “reactionary” compute layer you introduce latency, and unless this algorithm is stupid simple? You’d notice the latency in a heartbeat

[molten lotus]

Ty

[elder thistle]

eh... depends on what they're doing

[dark storm]

Black Friday id expect just under or over $100

[elder thistle]

minimum phase eq for starters is zero latency in theory

but there's a lot more going on

one moment

[molten lotus]

BH-b550?

[dark storm]

Ive got the B53M myself

Cool perk to these things, the sub wirelessly pairs. Meaning you can slide on the floor as long as you have power cable to find that….gspot

[elder thistle]

recorded audio of just the remote. this is the cloud II one, which I don't like as much and you'll hear how it's super reverby and midrangey

but it's doing a lot of things

[dark storm]

Need to put headphones in to see what you mean….give me a bit

[elder thistle]

it does work best on the cloud II of course, but if you have an hd600 that seems to work pretty well too

[dark storm]

You can always plug in any headset into the clouds usb dongle lol

[elder thistle]

ye

some just seemed better than others with replicating the effect

[dark storm]

What’s the goal here, competitive advantage? Immersion?

[elder thistle]

particularly for distinguishing front vs back

I'm guessing immersion of sorts for that one

[dark storm]

If you ask me. ((If the game supports it)) 5.1 channel is where the real experience is

[elder thistle]

yes

I'm not saying spatializers are great or even good, but they usually do something moderately useful to stereo game audio

[dark storm]

I do enjoy “widening” of the sound stage, absolutely. I just wanted to clear up a very popular marketing misconception

[elder thistle]

oh, yes of course

it's all stereo in the end

I have the feeling I was supposed to do something but forgot what it was

[dark storm]

Screw around with equalizer apo now

Make your own THX preset

[elder thistle]

wow well that's odd

thomann did not charge me for shipping

that makes this a 72% off launch price / $90.00 mc450

ridiculous

[elder thistle]

I have confirmed that someone else was charged for shipping

so uh,

bug

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/174341001899540483/745247652160995455/Hmm48.gif

bug you say

[astral hemlock]

https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Dynamic-Microphone-Streaming-Suspension/dp/B0C6Q7GC46
https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Microphone-Individual-Voice-AmpliGame-SC3/dp/B0BZP95YB5/

Would this be decent, worth wild, audio upgrade I have a fifine 6990 rn and I am not sure how much of an upgrade it would be from that

[molten lotus]

bose quietcomfort ultra or sony xm5??

im looking to buy one of them

[tawdry gale]

audeze maxwell

[tulip quest]

Anyone got Bluetooth "around" ear headphone recommendations (not for gaming) within a 100-200 $ price range?

Features must include good noise canceling, decent sound

[sleek jewel]

I was looking into the wave mics, are they any good?

[tawdry gale]

https://vxtwitter.com/ResolveReviews/status/1727508627970289725?t=Hs_r-eazvftr0DonmEIYmA&s=33

[livid spoke]

D's nuts

[trim burrow]

Hi, does anyone know any worthy headset with usb and 3.5 connection for like around 50-60$?

[dark crypt]

Hey guys I haven’t ever bought speakers or anything so I don’t really know, but does anyone know of a good speaker and subwoofer combo I can get for a few hundred dollars?

Wired preferably

[lean grove]

take a look at the edifier s350db

[dark crypt]

Ooooooh this is exactly what I’m looking for thank you

How do I connect these to my pc?

Can I?

[lean grove]

your computer might have an optical port, which would be the best. otherwise you'll need a 3.5mm stereo to RCA cable which are pretty cheap and common

[quiet ether]

built in amp moment

[buoyant vale]

Whats wrong with active speakers?

[unique wind]

gigachads use active speakers

[quiet ether]

i would prolly only for a subwoofer

[uneven sparrow]

Hyperx Cloud 2 wired going for $49 on Amazon not bad I think

[meager sky]

hi guys! I'm looking for wireless headsets and came up with 3 options, open to feedback 🙂
Steelseries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless, Astro A50 Wireless or the Sennheiser EPOS I GSP 670 Wireless Gaming Headset
I can't decide on these three

[jolly vine]

You guys better jump on this CRAZY black Friday deal

[unique wind]

[uneven minnow]

Dont forget this amazing deal as well

[austere delta]

what r good audio interfaces ^_^

[sinful wasp]

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[dark storm]

pick whichever one doesnt demand the use of crap software

[lean grove]

Motu m2 is pretty good

[tepid torrent]

wassup bro

[sinful wasp]

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[south falcon]

Any1 know if turtle Beach 700 gen 2 max headset is ok mic and audio wise?

[unborn gale]

turtle beach is trash that will fail you in a couple months

[south falcon]

Damn
How does logitech hold up

Leaning towards g733 unless if there's something better for pc, ps5 and switch?

[unborn gale]

what's your budget and what are you looking for for a pair of headphones?

[south falcon]

Nothing special
My minimum reqs are connecting to pc, ps5 and switch

Maybe budget range $200 USD

[unborn gale]

PC37X

though it's wired

although I'm pretty sure all three have a 3.5mm headphone jack?

[south falcon]

My ps5 and switch controllers got headphone jacks

[elder thistle]

I will perform a magic trick

but for neutral or higher sub bass or for boosting footsteps and to some extent positional audio cues, these ain't it without eq

[chrome salmon]

Hey
This May or May not be the right place to ask But here it goes
I have the AirPods pro 1 gen rn i Got Them for Xmas 2020
But over the past 6 mouths or so i have had problem with them not connecting (which is mostly gone now) and my left pod making a noise Sound for a couple of second almost Daily sometimes even 2-3-4 times if i use Them at work
So Should i upgrade to the AirPods pro gen 2. I can save 70 usd becouse of Black friday at a store near me

[unborn gale]

Perhaps contact apple and ask if they can repair it

But honestly, they're probably fakes. I've never heard of those problems in actual airpods before.

[chrome salmon]

i can tell you that they are not fake
the problem with connecting was that one of them wouldnt connecnt and them i would have to go into to bluetooth and "forget" them and then reconnect them from new and that would fix the problem for mabye a week or so but like i said that problem is more or less gone its been atleast a mouth snice i lasted needed to do that
the noise problem i think comes from me dropping them one to many times becouse i mainly use the left one if i only use one airpod

[bold otter]

Any good Black Friday mics?

[cobalt gyro]

are there any good speaker and subwoofer combos that don't sound like garbage for around 60 bucks? i just bought the creative pebble plus set and the subwoofer might as well not be included because it literally does nothing, it could turn my headphones up to 100% volume and hear as much bass as i would from this sub with my pc at 100% volume

even my 150 dollar samsung sounds better when i turn it up to 100 this is actually pathetic man

[warm scarab]

its 60$ man what do you expect

[cobalt gyro]

Idk more quality than this

60 bucks is not a small amount of money

[warm scarab]

its bottom of the barrel as far as first hand speakers go

[elder thistle]

the cheapest standalone active subwoofers woth no sattelites is like 100 bucks

[warm scarab]

this

and they suck ass

you have to dsp them like crazy to get what you want

[lean grove]

For speakers yes it is.

[gritty parrot]

Anyone have good proposition for speaker from 100 to 500$

I want to focus more on audio quality then how loud it can go

[warm scarab]

active or passive

[gritty parrot]

I dont mind

[warm scarab]

you have a speaker amp?

[gritty parrot]

Nope it for my desktop but i do music and other thing on it

[warm scarab]

i mean you need a speaker amp for a passive speaker

that was the rheoteric

[gritty parrot]

Ah

~~i can rob my parent one ~~ joke

[warm scarab]

ive done that in the past

they give out resistance surprisingly quickly

anyhow

if you have an amp jbl530

if you don't jbl305 are pretty good

305 are like 300$

the 305 like i said

I don't know any other better speakers in the 300-500$ range so you should wait for other replies if you insist on paying more

but they are pretty good speakers

[gritty parrot]

There cheap lol

There 200$ here

[buoyant vale]

for a pair?

[gritty parrot]

Yes for 2

[buoyant vale]

nice

[warm scarab]

pretty good price

[gritty parrot]

I can go more expensive then that if needed

For better one

[warm scarab]

id use the remaining 300$ for a subwoofer

I don't really know subwoofers though can't recommend you any

[gritty parrot]

I took the my parent one lil they wasnt using it

So i got one

[warm scarab]

well

posessing a subwoofer is very different than posessing a good one

[gritty parrot]

If i remember it worth 500$ or more

[warm scarab]

I don't know what you have but I have doubts that most boomers who aren't super into hifi have anything decent

[warm scarab]

then it can be good but more expensive isn't necessarily better

what is it?

also if you really want into this hobby, you should invest some in room treatment/correction too

you can learn how to do both in like 20 minutes maybe but improve your overall experience drastically

[gritty parrot]

Pioneer something

I would need to look

[warm scarab]

wow that narrows it down a lot

[gritty parrot]

Ye

I dont really like it heyit better then none

[warm scarab]

if you don't like it its probably not very good

or your speakers are so bad you confuse their shitness for the sub's

[gritty parrot]

I guess

But what i really need is some good speaker

Maybe there call monitor speaker and those suck cause my gf took my other one for are piano

So ye they suck

[warm scarab]

well I told you all I can, can't really give advice on something I don't know about any further

[gritty parrot]

I will look the if jbl305 and see

[warm scarab]

its pretty good but not sure best you can get for 500$

[gritty parrot]

Thx

[elder thistle]

the adam t5v's are pretty sick if you like treble clarity

and good bass extension for a 5" speaker

and no not treble clarity as in high shelf like people often point out in the FR for the t5v

but they are pathetically nearfield and directional so I'd only use them up close on a desk

[warm scarab]

completely forgot about adam audio

yeah those are pretty good

they also have sub pairings on their site, not sure how those perform though

[steel escarp]

I have literally seen 0 high end headphones with black friday discounts

[elder thistle]

how high end? like 1k+?

[steel escarp]

yeah

[elder thistle]

hm

[steel escarp]

or any tube amps

[lethal grove]

will steelseries arctis 3 console work with PC?

[tawdry gale]

64audio has sale

u12t 20% off

[steel escarp]

I dont care about IEMs

[zinc rain]

Looking for a smaller sound bar to go along with my PC setup. Preferably <=$100 USD, but could go a bit higher if the deal is right.

[gritty parrot]

is this eny good? M-AUDIO BX4

Or bx5 d3 better idk

[bold otter]

my headhphones cable is too short.. what do

moved the computer closer but ;d

[lean grove]

But a new cable or an extender?

[bold otter]

extender prollyi

should i get a specific one or just any?

[lean grove]

Some are kinda crap. You want to avoid anything that looks like it has a stiff sleeve or is too rough. Those typically pick up any sound and send them to your headphones like a stethoscope every time you move.

Amazon basics and ugreen tend to have softer cables.

[bold otter]

oh i may go ugrean then. i never had good luck with amazon basics anything

[tawdry gale]

oh that one is crap

so much noise floor

oh extender, should be fine

[lean grove]

How does a cable have a noise floor

[tawdry gale]

I thought they were talking about the ugreen dongle

[gritty parrot]

?

[molten skiff]

what is a good studio mic for discord and like general use

[lean grove]

Samson Q2u

[molten skiff]

does it have to be right next to ur face like some other mics

cuz I find i usally have it a bit away from face so it dont get in way of screen

[lean grove]

yes.

[molten skiff]

I guess most mics have to be like that lol guess ill have to get used to that lol

[lean grove]

thats how most good mics are

if you want to put a mic further away, it needs to be incredibly well designed to not pick up absolutely everything else in your room

like your keyboard and mouse clicks

[molten skiff]

I see cuz had some friend rec some shura mic think it was

[lean grove]

it wasnt the sm7b was it

[molten skiff]

he said choose sm7b or mv7

[lean grove]

sm7b is kind of a meme. people wind up buying it because its what streamers use, and then dont realize that its incredibly annoying to set up properly

also you dont need to spend $300 for a mic thats for discord and general use

[molten skiff]

honestly I thought about just getting this https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07W1G95PH?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

so I didnt need a seperate mic

[lean grove]

what headphones do you have

[molten skiff]

560s

[lean grove]

that wouldnt be a bad idea

[molten skiff]

does it sound bad ?

[lean grove]

idk

find a sound demo

if you dont want a mic in your field of view, this is a good solution

[elder thistle]

is that keyed the same as an hd560s?

[lean grove]

the web page says its compatible with a bunch of sennys

[elder thistle]

it even looks like the same keying is used on the m40x/m50x version / it's identical

but could be an image issue

[sullen ice]

Quick question, I want to make a 3.5mm jack cable to use the output of my drum set as the mic input for my phone (to film some video's). Now, is it safe to combine the Left and Right channel of a Trs cable to the one mic ring of a trrs cable? Or does that cause problems?

[lyric flax]

i have a logitech g433 headset and it randomly gets really loud and staticky does anyone mnow how to fix it?

[lean grove]

logitech support might

[bold otter]

Interference from something or something inside is breaking

What about Limited-time deal: Logitech for Creators Blue Snowball iCE USB Microphone for Gaming, Streaming, Podcasting, Twitch, YouTube, Discord, Recording for PC and Mac, Plug & Play - White https://a.co/d/3l39Ty7

[white rampart]

Finally replaced my crappy cheap mic. Did I make a good choice?

[lean grove]

Congratulations

[fervent leaf]

Works great for me, and with G HUB you get some free voice changers.

I got the full white one.

[bold otter]

What is?

[fervent leaf]

Blue Yetti.

[bold otter]

Thanks

[fervent leaf]

👍

[white rampart]

Oh, so that's what I'm supposed to download. Was trying to look for the software it suggested in the manual but the web page wasn't loading. Guess that's why

[fervent leaf]

Yup, then your PC / Software should recognize your mic, and then select it and mess around with it's features.

[white rampart]

I'll set it up rn

[fervent leaf]

Awesome!

[lyric flax]

can someone please let me know some good headsets for 100 dollars that i can find somewhere like bestbuy

[unborn gale]

koss ksc75

because bestbuy has fuck all

and the prices there are always trash too

[elder thistle]

fail

[elder thistle]

if you're going there to try some out, see if they have the hyperx cloud II, cloud alpha S, razer blackshark v2, maybe a few from steelseries

[unborn gale]

you literally just named every single brand

the hyperxs are trash that die in a couple months

from what I remember, the blackshark v2 is just straight up bad

steelseries is just ok

[elder thistle]

thought you were talking about the ksc75 for a sec

[lyric flax]

wait what should i get then?

[unborn gale]

tbh there's not much at $100

if you can, see if there's any PC37Xs available

[lyric flax]

is there anything good close to 100?

?

[unborn gale]

Sennheiser PC37X

since it's black friday, there's a chance it could be $100

[lyric flax]

ty

and if they dont have it what else could i look for