audio-tech

[haughty girder]

I have plugged my bass guitar directly into the line in of a powered monitor before, it worked

[quiet ether]

sheesh

[haughty girder]

most basses (especially with active pickups) will have a strong enough signal that it can be amplified by most amps

[quiet ether]

my amp has a aux port but its the small jack and guitars have the chonky jacks

[haughty girder]

is it aux in?

the chonky jacks are used because it's more durable

[quiet ether]

yea its aux in

[haughty girder]

but otherwise it's pin to pin (other than being mono)

1/4"/6.35mm is the bigger version of 3.5mm

and 2.5mm is the smaller version of 3.5mm

[quiet ether]

mind the dust lol

[haughty girder]

RCA is the split version of 3.5mm

but they all use the same analogue signal

it won't sound amazing but you can defo just get a bass, 6.35mm to 3.5mm adapter, and use a 3.5mm cable as aux in

it should work fine

[quiet ether]

took a while to focus

[quiet ether]

ah

holy shit this looks like a way more better deal

[haughty girder]

those are for speakers

and you can get it for far cheaper on AliExpress

I have a few

[quiet ether]

i need a new amp anyways

i got no subwoofer port

[hardy creek]

Does anyone have a rec for a 3.5 aux male to female extension? I bought an Amazon basics one but it's not grounded properly so I get a buzz whenever Im not touching metal

[lyric ice]

guys I have a HD6xx headphones but the cables keep dying. like in the past 5 years I replaced the cables 5-6 times

I take good cable of the cables and they rarely touch anything, I dont know why its happening. should I replace the headset itself or buy a better replacement cables ?

[lean grove]

how do they keep dying?

[lyric ice]

the left ear cup like doesnt play audio after few months

[lean grove]

weird.

[lyric ice]

like I have to re adjust the cable or have it in certain position

[lean grove]

at the base of the cable or at the connector of the cable?

[lyric ice]

ar the connector

[lean grove]

hmmm. you might just need to get a nicer cable

idk

it could be that you're in a loop of buying cheap cables and having them break at the same place

or it might be something specific to the way you use it

i havent heard anyone complain about sennheiser cables

[ebon vortex]

Due to space issues i have to use a soundbar, the built in tv speakers are ass

[errant wharf]

Fair enough. Creative labs seems to have the most popular soundbars

[ebon vortex]

I could fit two bookshelf speakers next to my tv but i literally have no idea whats good or a fair price

I got a good amp through a hand-me- down

[ebon vortex]

Got any suggestions for that?

[errant wharf]

I dont know much about soundbars but what is your price range?

[ebon vortex]

Sub 200€

If i go for bookshelf speakers it would also be the same

Still, no idea what to look for

[lean grove]

the thing about soundbars is that they have a pretty small internal volume.
and for speakers, if you want any bass at all, you need to have the speaker actually be physically large or else you need to do some funny tricks that sacrafice elsewhere

i recommend taking a look at edifier's options

[ebon vortex]

I had magnat supreme 802 loved them, but i cant fit them in my new flat anymore

Very unfortunate

[ebon vortex]

Are they all active speakers or do they have passive ones as well?

[lean grove]

active

do you want passive

[ebon vortex]

I got an amp already

[lean grove]

okay. take a look at the SS-CS5

neumi also has good options

[ebon vortex]

I am looking for something thats sub 200€ ,250 at most

Ahhh, both the neumi and sony ones cant be shipped to me

[lean grove]

are you german?

[lyric ice]

guys would you get the 800s or the Arya stealth if you are upgrading from drop HD6xx ?

[full fossil]

30% is quite alot and the nova pro wireless is definitely a really good setup to pick up
with the swappable battery you basically get infinite battery time and also the dock is nice
my last headset was the 7s and i wasnt very pleased with them tbh

If your sole purpose for them is gaming and a bit of music i strongly recommend them

[unborn gale]

Aryas

HD800s sound weird and well, you may or may not like it. I personally don't but a friend of mine really does

[lyric ice]

based on price history in camelcamelcamel it says the Arya lowest price was 1300 and reviews on amazon say about the same

but now for me it is appearing at 900

[unborn gale]

have you checked hifiman's website

[lyric ice]

gona check now

[unborn gale]

ok looks like it's the same on hifiman's website

[lyric ice]

on their website it says 1300s

oh wait 899

[lean grove]

Kind of a preference toss up. if you prefer more realistic presentation i think you should go for the HD800s. Arya stealth have a better bass presentation though and have a nicer headband.

[lyric ice]

im watching reviews now and the arya seems available while the hd800s is not

[unborn gale]

could go used

[lean grove]

definitely go used

[unborn gale]

Aryas go for around $600 and I think $800 for the HD800s

[lean grove]

$800 for an 800s is pretty rare i think

usually closer to $1000

[unborn gale]

they still go for around $1k?

[lyric ice]

amazon says renewed at 1180 vs the 900 for arya stealth

i can only order from amazon i dont know if they have used ones

[unborn gale]

why amazon

do you have a giftcard or something

[lyric ice]

im shipping overseas

only amazon does that

[unborn gale]

you've never used ebay before?

or maybe even reddit?

[lean grove]

nevermind. it hovers between $750 and $1200.

[lyric ice]

I used ebay and it wasn't a good transaction and was pain to deal with. any problem from amazon I had was resolved while using their chat support

[unborn gale]

understandable. I'm pretty knowledgable when it comes to ebay so I never really have problems, but I get that it can be a pain sometimes.

[lyric ice]

btw the focal clear also popped out in the comprisons, should I consider it with the other 2 ?

[unborn gale]

No.

Not a bad headphone, but Arya is much better.

[lyric ice]

noted

hopefully black friday comes in clutch

[unborn gale]

everything I want I just buy used lol

at least for audio, just much cheaper

[lyric ice]

I just checked on amazon for the arya used ones. 860$ compared to the 899 new

[unborn gale]

yeah don't waste your time with Amazon used stuff

just way too expensive and a waste of time

[lean grove]

edition xs is much cheaper

[warm scarab]

you can get an edition xs

headband is eh

but you can get aftermarket suspension straps for it which work just fine

[novel kite]

Looking at a new headset for gaming. Dont need anything special. Any of these not fully awful?

[warm scarab]

I don't know about mmx 150

but nova 3 should be better than the g pro x i think?

not sure if it is the wired or the wireless version i remember

[novel kite]

Im not too familiar with Beyerdynamic - some people say theyre decent but struggle to find and really good reviews

[warm scarab]

they have decent products here and there

[novel kite]

Im looking pretty exclusively at wired since wireless tends to have a bit of background white noise (at least on the cheaper end)

[warm scarab]

overall as an audio company, far better offers than logitech and steelseries

but I don't know the mmx 150

[novel kite]

Ah ok - hard to compare really.

[warm scarab]

they both have pretty questionable parts as far as frequency response goes

[novel kite]

A lot of reviews say "comfort issues" but thats so subjective :/

Which are you talking about here?

[warm scarab]

yeah nvm

nova 3 is ass lol

i think i confused it with nova 7

[novel kite]

oh really? reviews seemed to say the 3 pretty much matched the 7

the 7 was actually worse in terms of mic since its wierlesss

[warm scarab]

reviews are a really bad place to get information from

generally they say more about a person's standards than they do of the items themselves

frequency response doesn't say all about a headphone

but that huge bump in the midbass arctis nova 3 has

super questionable

[novel kite]

Yeah, its an impossible minefield since unless its a direct 1:1 comparison youre basiclaly just comparing people

Where are you getting these plots?

[warm scarab]

rtings

raw graphs

their compensated graphs are worthless

so are their ratings of headphones

they have measurements though

[novel kite]

It seems from the soundguys they are basically the same:
https://www.soundguys.com/steelseries-arctis-nova-3-review-77788/
https://www.soundguys.com/beyerdynamic-mmx-150-review-65211/
https://www.soundguys.com/logitech-g-pro-x-review-28170/

G Pro X having the worst sound, nova 3 the best

[lean grove]

why not something like the pc37x

[novel kite]

Over budget. Theyre selling for £150 here

[lean grove]

rip

yeah idk then. gl

[novel kite]

I feel like these are probably all equally 'fine'

so maybe it just comes down to features / style

[lean grove]

thats kinda where gaming companies want you to think

they dont want to engineer a good product, because sound is inherently a hard topic to convey over reviews

so instead they focus on features / style

[full fossil]

this might be useful

[lean grove]

its not

inflation has raised the hd560s and k361 out of the <$100 budget

[novel kite]

~£100 = £150 😢

[lean grove]

yeah. and you probably want a mic

[novel kite]

Yeah thats the main reason

currently I just use apple ear pod things and a £4 mic

[full fossil]

so your budget is 100 pounds?

[novel kite]

Around that - but if its cheaper thats better I guess

[full fossil]

The blacksharks V2 Pro have a really good microphone but they are 124 pounds

[full fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/v00Ft-augf8

[warm scarab]

soundguys is a meme

but i don't know honestly

[full fossil]

70 hours of battery , excellent mic for a headset , wireless , eqs and so on

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Razer-BlackShark-Wireless-Gaming-Headset-Black/dp/B08FQG96RP/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=blackshark%2Bv2%2Bpro&sr=8-6&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.cc223b57-2b86-485c-a85e-6431c1f06c86&th=1
@novel kite

[warm scarab]

it sounds like ass my man

the mic is solid, so is battery life

but it sounds like shit

[novel kite]

£200 here

yeah I think our prices are a bit fucked

[warm scarab]

every other thing apart from the sound it does great

nova 7, pc38x, cloud 2, pc37x, maxwell wipe the floor with it

closest competition it has is cloud 2

and nova 7 afterwards

[full fossil]

ive had both cloud 2 and nova 7

the cloud 2 litterally had its screws bust out

[warm scarab]

I don't comment on build

I comment on sound

[full fossil]

I mean you dont want a 120$+ headset to break after 8 months

[full fossil]

shouldnt it be 125?

[warm scarab]

unfortunate case for you tbh

I don't believe cloud 2 is indestructible but it is on the more reliable end of headphones

anyhow you can always rma

[full fossil]

artics 7s are better in almsot everythign except comfort the cloud 2s have an edge there

from personal experience

[warm scarab]

they are

[full fossil]

the clouds 2 were literally like a cloud

ironic

[warm scarab]

you can find it for 50$

which makes it pretty alright

[novel kite]

I had the wireless cloud for about 3 days before I returned them

[full fossil]

company i bought it from said its my fault and i jsut gave up

[novel kite]

This was a few years back but they had AWFUL white noise

[warm scarab]

yeah wireless is pretty shit

[warm scarab]

you got scammed

[full fossil]

yah

[novel kite]

thus going wired, I think wireless is just not worth the massive quality loss

[warm scarab]

that's a good call but most headphones that benefit from being wired are not in your price bracket

like pc38x

go for pc37x maybe

[novel kite]

Sure but the cheap wireless stuff is truly awful

[full fossil]

I finally reached the maxwells

[warm scarab]

that's fair

[full fossil]

i dont think these are gonna explode or have shit comfort

[warm scarab]

they might explode

[full fossil]

what

[warm scarab]

audeze has super fragile drivers

[novel kite]

pc37x is £155

I have no idea how UK pricing works

aparently everyhting is just expensive here

[full fossil]

i jsut got these man stop scaring me

[warm scarab]

you can just rma it lol

[warm scarab]

brexit moment

[full fossil]

i know the lady told me when you return them they have to destroy them and record the process before getting a new pair for the rma

cuz audeze has to be sure there isnt shady business

with their partners

[warm scarab]

you think too much of it

you just mail audeze and they ask for product id

you ship it back to them or they send you a new pair no questions asked

[novel kite]

dont even, fucking stupid idea that was

[full fossil]

Here in bulgaria i can jsut mail them to their official distributor here and they will do it for me

and they go thru the process i described jsut now

[warm scarab]

they are just telling you shit to not try it

so they have less shit to worry about

very common official distributor behavior

[novel kite]

Its fustrating how having a warrenty =/= having support for a product

[full fossil]

I had to wait a while to get them cuz they said audeze is barely pumping them out

and the waitlist is 3 months

[warm scarab]

half true

as long as you complain to the right place you will have your way

[full fossil]

Also i got used to the weight in like 2 hours of use

so i dont see why ppl whine about it

[warm scarab]

weak necks

[elder thistle]

I think the blackshark v2x is an excellent deal for $50 if you're gonna eq

earcup brackets are wireframe though

subjectively excellent

the isolation is impressive too but yes there's more than twice the budget

you could always go like this and generally escape gaming headsets in music quality at the cost of some positional awareness depending on the game

mackie mc-250 ($70) and v-moda boompro mic ($20)

minus remote

but if you're l

,;

[molten skiff]

well I tried these truth ear reds and they sound good but hurt my ears

comfort wise they aint it

[lean grove]

then use different tips

thats where 90% of the comfort is

[unique wind]

yeah definitely try many different tips to see if any work for you

ive been evaluating truthear nova for a couple hours

in comparison to truthear reds using the same eartips

[lean grove]

listener beat you with an article

[fresh niche]

Got some new audio stuff at work

[unique wind]

frick

[lethal bloom]

thank you for the reply, and thats exactly what im after solely for gaming but a little bit of music on the side, would you say they are the best headset for around £230?

[molten skiff]

I think the the ear bud in general is to big for my small ears canals

The part that goes in ur ear seems thicker man most ear buds

[elder thistle]

I can't wear earbuds for very long in general

[molten skiff]

My ears are too small for alot of ear buds I find

So might just return these

[elder thistle]

I know shure and westone make some iems with really thin nozzles

but you have to pay more to get decent(tm) sound

[molten skiff]

I see

Might have to try those INSEAD

Why did it make that caps

What is my auto correct doing lol

[elder thistle]

usually come with a ton of different tips too which is cool

like on the tonality front I think the truthear reds will almost certainly have most of them beat

the shure se112 and westone um pro 20 and 30 (both 2nd gen) are ones I had

se112 wasn't groundbreaking but I still thought it was pretty good compared to headphone offerings at the time. nice bass definition. isn't in IEM form factor nor does it have a replaceable cable

se215 is very popular and goes for $99 usually, but it's a single driver iem

lots of tips and really good isolation

[fleet yew]

Got a question for anybody who knows, I am looking for a good pair of headphones but not sure on what to get and there are a ton of reviews online... What would be a good headset under 300$?

-if its a headset with a mic idc about the quality as long as its detachable/just out of my way

the ones I am currently looking at:

-Corsair HS80 RGB
-Cloud III Wireless

not even sure if these are good

just need something with great audio and especially good for heating footsteps and other important audio queues

[unborn gale]

Sennheiser PC37X

actually, I think the Audeze Maxwell is $300

[lean grove]

^

[thorn pulsar]

Ellouh, just looking for some smul studio speakers (pref below 20cm height). Best I've found so far is the iLoud Micros. Any good alternatives? I had the prosonus 3.5 but they seem to have taken the night.

[full fossil]

They really meet your criteria they have really god imaging around 10% better than the maxwells and they do well in music. The infinite battery life is also a plus

[full fossil]

Get the maxwells , corsair products that arent pc part related scare me personally

[vast quarry]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08KHT2HDT?th=1

is it worth

~90€ for Marshall Major IV

[vast quarry]

i know marshal is known for their quality standard (?)

at least i think so

but these werent even 200€ brand new when they came out 3 years ago

[lean grove]

Marshall makes guitar amps

[vast quarry]

i know them mostly for their bluetooth boxes

[lean grove]

I think this recent venture into Bluetooth headphones and speakers is just marketing their brand to people who associate it with music production

I don't have high hopes for them

[vast quarry]

so far reviews ive seen say they are decent

but a lot of them praise the look as well, which isnt really a priority for me

[woeful beacon]

Im wondering if there is any kind of not obsurdly expensive USB output amp or something? I want to be able to use my USB haptic headphones on my phone but it doesnt supply enough power to get above like 5%

Im not too knowledgeable with audio tech so i may just be dumb

[white gate]

USB doesn't actually output analog audio. It just provides power for the dac/amp in the product.
In this case sounds like maybe your USB port just can't supply enough current. Try getting a powered USB hub

(or use a USB 3.0 port)

[woeful beacon]

I mean on my phone

My pc is fine i just want to know if theres a way to use it out of the house

Its the corsair hs60 haptic if that helps

[white gate]

Phone USB ports often aren't going to be able to supply much power. As said you'd need a powered USB hub

[woeful beacon]

Is there one i can use while still getting audio without being plugged into a wall?

Im thinking maybe something that uses my portable charger as power while still using my phone as audio

[white gate]

No, the issue is your phone cannot supply enough power. Can't get more power from nowhere unfortunately. You need a power source. ie: plugged into wall.

You could try to find a battery supply I guess but that's gonna end up being reasonably pricey (would need a device like the iFi iDefender 3.0 to actually inject that 5V supply) and at that point you could probably just upgrade headphones

https://ifi-audio.com/products/idefender3-0/

[woeful beacon]

Would a basic USB splitter plugged into my battery and my phone going into 1 cord to my headset work? Idc if its jamky, as long as it works

[white gate]

No cause then your phone can't send data to the headset

The corsair hs60 haptic isn't really meant to be used as a portable headphone unfortunately so it's gonne be a bit of work to get it running on a phone

[woeful beacon]

Dang that sucks

Wish my aux hs60 pro surround didnt break

[wintry mirage]

i think i need to somehow find the optimal place for my subwoofer in my room because when i play around 26 hz at higher volumes its basically inaudible where im sat but closer to the sub its very much audible

ive tried before but im not sure particularly where to put it

[lean grove]

Put the subwoofer on the chair where you sit and then crawl around the room on your hands and knees. Where it sounds best, put it there.

[wintry mirage]

it doesnt fit on my chair

thats the problem

i did something similar where i put it in different places around my room and it ended up sounding best where i put it

my roof has a support that comes down slightly and anything behind that sounds good below 35hz

outside of it doesnt

until i leave my room then it sounds fine

it sounds louder on the floor below than where im sat

[lean grove]

Last option would be to use EQ and just bump up 26hz until you can hear it

But that's gonna be pretty hard on your subwoofer

[white gate]

@wintry mirageWhat are the dimensions of your room?

[wintry mirage]

i tried put me in the freeze rat 29hz and its much louder in one area of my room

[white gate]

You can actually work out a likely ideal location based on dimensions quite often

[wintry mirage]

my room is a strange shape because its like a triangle roof with supports then a flat wall

[white gate]

ah

[wintry mirage]

ill send a video

u can see it's unusual

and the same on the other side just blocked by my clothes and stairs

sounds good next to my bed at the top of my stairs

where the sub currently is

if i move it to the top of the stairs it might sound better

[bold otter]

so hyperx or steel series

audio technica m50

[bold otter]

i need a longer cable that 3'

[haughty girder]

none of the above

[bold otter]

shortcircuit has the audio technica m50 is ok

idk the difference between sts and xlr

[unborn gale]

and they are like the worst channel to check when it comes to headphones

[bold otter]

:L

welp i dont' have many options at microcenter so

[unborn gale]

you buying the M50X is like buying beats headphones

just because popular people use beats headphones, doesn't mean it's any good

[bold otter]

https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntk=all&sortby=match&N=4294966661+39+4294821553&myStore=true

i want em wired though

[unborn gale]

and there are tons of wired headphones

[bold otter]

yes but i'm going on what is at microcenter

[unborn gale]

why specifically at Microcenter?

you're limiting yourself to...nothing really good lol

[bold otter]

😐

https://youtu.be/ZsDYrcNkQYc?si=a7f6khKJbAiHkj5E

[unborn gale]

LTT is good when it comes to PC stuff

not audio

[bold otter]

idk what XLR means

[unborn gale]

and if you're buying headphones, you don't need to know what XLR is either, doesn't matter at all

if you want a headset, get a PC37X

[bold otter]

https://www.amazon.com/Massdrop-Sennheiser-PC37X-Gaming-Headset/dp/B084GFGMYT/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1L3SQBCFQLEQ0&keywords=PC37X&qid=1700166080&sprefix=pc37x%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-3&th=1

that?

[unborn gale]

yes

way better than what the M50X can ever be

and also cheaper somehow

[bold otter]

there is a gaming version

[unborn gale]

no there isn't

[bold otter]

Massdrop x Sennheiser PC37X Gaming Headset + Sennheiser PCV 05 Combo Audio Adapter

what about the PC38x?

[unborn gale]

basically the same thing but slightly better I think?

basically go for the PC38X if it's like the same price, but other than that, doesn't really matter

[bold otter]

its 180

[unborn gale]

it's not $50 better

[bold otter]

people say the microphone is not great on it

[unborn gale]

it's fine

if you want a good microphone, you're buying the microphone separately

[bold otter]

can it come off?

[unborn gale]

No.

[bold otter]

:/

[unborn gale]

I guess you could go with a headphone + modmic if you want a detachable mic without being stuck with shitty gaming headsets

[bold otter]

eh?

no audeze? @unborn gale

[unborn gale]

you have $300?

because the Audeze Maxwell, while good, is not cheap

[bold otter]

:L

idk difference between the 37x and gaming version

other than $20 difference

[unborn gale]

because there is no difference

there is no gaming version

[bold otter]

says there is

[unborn gale]

the "gaming" version just includes an adapter

[bold otter]

OIC

[unborn gale]

you can get an adapter for like $2.

Don't waste your money on that scam

[bold otter]

:f

[maiden snow]

Random question but can anyone identify what rebranded headphones the premium ones of this is?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D8H59PY
google lens closest is EPOS 660 but it's not the same - different charging port and side panels

[unborn gale]

it probably is a EPOS headphone

just slightly modified for Amazon use

[maiden snow]

So I won't be able to find a match at all?

[unborn gale]

and they look like shit, go for something like a XM4

[maiden snow]

well I already own them because I got them for $53

[unborn gale]

oh huh

but yeah it's unlikely you'll find an exact match

[maiden snow]

I just can't get them to connect properly and can't find any actual support info

that sucks

thank you

[unborn gale]

could contact Amazon and ask about it

[indigo light]

Hello, I was looking for an upgrade from some random cheap "gamer headset" i got a few years ago thats falling apart now. I've never owned or listened to a pair of audiophile level headphones in my life and was wondering what your thoughts are on the pc37/38x, dt 770, and dt 990. My original plan was to a dt 770 80 ohm with a modmic uni if it went on sale during black friday. However looking through some modmic uni reviews made me rethink the whole plan. I would mainly focus on games, although i listen to music occasionally.

[unborn gale]

Go for the PC37X, the DT series are kinda eh

I want to say the Fidelio X3 but you can't really attach a modmic to

[indigo light]

anything specific about the dt series thats eh?

[unique wind]

the tonality of the dt770 80ohm is harsh

if you’re looking for a closed back gaming headset check out the audeze maxwell

[indigo light]

a little out of the pricerange

[normal peak]

k361/k371, dt 880, sennheiser 560s

[indigo light]

if i didnt go with the pc37/38x is there any other option similar to modmic (i'd rather not have a desk mic)

[fallow surge]

I'm looking for a new pair of wireless earbdus, my linkbud s battery life is now 10 minutes and sony wants to charge me more than the price of a new pair to fix them. So far I've looked at the Galaxy Buds Pro 2 and the Pixel Buds Pro. I'm not sure which one to get as the Buds Pro 2 seem pretty good but the battery life is what concerns me. I've also looked at the Nothing 2s. Any recommendations? I have an S23 Ultra and a Galaxy Watch 6, but I'm not sure how much the 24bit audio will be useful as I use spotify for my audio. The XM5s are slightly out of my price range, and I'd get them, but I've lost faith in sony after my Linkbuds dying in a year.

[elder thistle]

#audio-tech message

[serene surge]

are sony wh1000xm3 and xm4 earpads interchangeable?

[haughty girder]

beats as of late has been slowly being phased out by Apple, but but their later products like buds studio are actually not bad at all

[unborn gale]

It was just an example, and yeah I do know that their latest buds have been actually decent

[elder thistle]

enough of the studio/pro naming

why do they do it

[unborn gale]

Advertising

[haughty girder]

this^

saying something is gaming means it's good for gaming

saying something is studio means it's suitable for professional use

which realistically it actually is

just... no

[frosty ocean]

Woo!

[dreamy geyser]

Anyone able to help me with mics? Need something for my pc and I dont know a damn thing about it

Want to keep it around 150$ american lol

So many damn mics out there

[lean grove]

what kind of mic do you need and what for

[dreamy geyser]

So I can't talk to people through discord

And in game stuff

Can

Not cant sorry

[lean grove]

if you want something fancy, get a samson q2u on a boom arm

if you want something less fancy, just get a lav mic or a samson go

[dreamy geyser]

That's not a bad price for the samson q2u

Samson Q2U Handheld Dynamic XLR/USB Microphone Bundle with Boom Arm, Shock Mount, and Pop Filter (4 Items) https://a.co/d/7gbnCYM

Something like that?

[lean grove]

yes

[dreamy geyser]

Nice and I don't need anything else? Just plug it in to the pc and thats it?

[lean grove]

yeah its usb

[dreamy geyser]

Awesome. Its much appreciated have a great day

[random delta]

I was thinking of getting a Fiio k5 pro to be used with my headphones for the 6.5mm jack, I just want to make sure it’s the best for the price bracket ($150 USD)

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-K5-AK4493EQ-Amplifier-Headphone/dp/B07WT7TYWY

[candid cosmos]

Just mentioning, my K5 pro had a extremely annoying behaviour, if the thing recieved no Audio, the amp would to into a standby to not keep spiting out its White noise, only issue this transition gave out a decent Pop, like you sometimes know from speaker amps powering up and maybe pulling an AUX cable.

This Pop came when it switched to standby and also when it switched back to active.

This "time out" happened to me like 0.1s after Audiosignal was silent, aka even in songs, especially in Youtube videos etc.

So i often had it that you could head like 5 of These pops per second. Not loud, but loud enough to drive you crazy once you know you have them.

Others i know off which have the newer K5 dont seem to have it, this is why i mention it. If yours has that behaviour, return it.

Got a k7 now, this ramps up slowly when switching on and as far as i know never goes to standby. Meaning nothing like my terrible experience with the K5, and better be for the price. Actually the K5 already should have been flawless...

That said, my k7 has another quirk or even defekt, when i Listen to it for a long time - like 6-8hrs the right channel sometimes got really silent.

Idk if its a overtemp thing cause i have it next to my PC, but the enclosure is the same temp all around... And if i have the amp off for like 2 mins its back to normal and goes to that weird state after another hour or so...

This is what im currently trying to figure out - next step is to move it away from the PC lol

[strange stream]

Hey all, due to issues with my motherboard's integrated soundcard that are unfixable in the short/medium term, I'm in need of a dedicated soundcard with SPDIF optical and support for 5.1 audio.
It doesn't need to be amazing, I'm most definitely not an audiophile, requirement is just "dont be 100% pure trash".
I was looking at the Creative Sound Blaster X4, is that a good option?

[unborn gale]

Why not a DAC/AMP instead

[wheat moss]

well they've said they need optical

[unborn gale]

There are ones that have optical

[wheat moss]

then it wouldn't be a dac

it would just be an interface that also happens to include a dac

[strange stream]

Yeah basically I just need something simple that goes pc > usb > SPDIF > my receiver, without going through my onboard soundcard cause it's dogshit and has this issue that's gonna blow up my eardrums and speakers.

[warm scarab]

what no?

a ton of dacs have optical ins

[strange stream]

And that soundblaster looked like a simple enough solution, just plug in usb-c, spdif, and go

[unborn gale]

Wait why spdif

Why not just USB C and go

[warm scarab]

why there criterias

[wheat moss]

ins, they need out

[warm scarab]

I am very confused

[strange stream]

Cause my receiver only takes spdif?

[unborn gale]

Oh a receiver

[strange stream]

Not even analog

[unborn gale]

Should definitely clarify

[warm scarab]

he said spdif support not input so

point taken

why do you need 5.1 support @strange stream

[wheat moss]

yeah, clearly as an output, hence their motherboard one dying, and needing a sound card with it.

[strange stream]

Cause my speakers are a 5.1 home theater set

[warm scarab]

5.1 support means having 5.1 outputs (6 analog outputs)

not that you can't use 5.1 digitally

anything can output 5.1 digitally

[strange stream]

Like I said, I'm just a dumb pc gamer that bought this HT a couple years ago cause it was cheap used

[warm scarab]

well, any spdif output will do

[strange stream]

I don't know what stuff I need to clarify

[warm scarab]

don't look for 5.1 supporting cards

[warm scarab]

all good no worries

anyhow man

if all you need is an spdif output anything will do really

as long as its not so shit that it's barely functioning anything you will buy will perform about the same

[strange stream]

But yeah the minimum is "OPT OUT (SPDIF) to connect to my receiver, don't use onboard soundcard for anything, and don't sound like cheap $10 usb pc speakers" nothing else

[warm scarab]

you could get one of those usb to spdif out things for like 10$ idk

its your money but the soundcard you mentioned sounds like a big overkill for a simple spdif output

but if you are asking whether it will do or not, yes the soundblaster will do

[strange stream]

I know 100% it's overkill, but I'm always scared that getting too close to "good enough" might cross to "not good enough" and returns/refunds are kinda hard here

So I might just suck it, buy that one, and just have a relatively overkill soundcard that I hope will last a bunch of years in case a future motherboard upgrade also has trash onboard sound?

in theory sound stuff lasts basically forever right?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[unborn gale]

Pretty sure the receiver is doing the processing for the sound...

[warm scarab]

red I will say though

your receiver is doing everything

like armored soul is saying

you are only buying a spdif output, a converter

[strange stream]

Yeah, I understand that.

[unborn gale]

So USB to SPDIF is the way to go. And real cheap too

[warm scarab]

you shouldn't have any "quality varience" as long as something isn't malfunctioning

only benefit to buying the soundblaster would be that it would last longer maybe since its mounted on your motherboard and not hanging off of a usb port

not getting constantly stressed by gravity

[strange stream]

The one I mentioned is USB, not pcie, but also not hanging off of a usb port, its one of those you keep on your desk

[warm scarab]

oh

idk man you will do with a 10$ converter

your call

[strange stream]

But will a $10 converter 100% bypass the motherboard's onboard soundcard?

Cause it's an issue with the integrated ALC4080 chip

[warm scarab]

yeah

soundcard is completely unrelated to anything digital

your cpu does all the digital stuff

[strange stream]

Welp seems like the market has chosen for me

There's no usb to spdif adapters/converters in stock here at all, and importing one will take way too long for way too much overprice in import fees

[frosty ocean]

Buy a Blue for 15 dollars at Goodwill

[frosty ocean]

Which explains why you want to spend 150 dollars in a Mic. But I can't say it's all your fault...Some of it is the sellers taking advantage of people

[frosty ocean]

https://github.com/handruin/spdif-ka/releases

[errant wharf]

What's the sound like on the go? As good as anything else for discord i assume?

[lean grove]

Find a YouTube demo

[quiet ether]

bought bass guitar and amp, wouldnt i be able to do aux line from the amp into my headphones?

[haughty girder]

bass into amp into headphones?

[quiet ether]

yes

hopefully? it should work

[haughty girder]

yep it should work

you can try it

(I don't use gain when playing bass on my interface, it's basically equivalent)

also what bass did you get?

[heady fulcrum]

Why hasn't any big company thought of this yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnBNE2IYjgI

[lean grove]

My guess would be because it's probably not a very good idea.

[bold otter]

I need a black friday deal for yummy headphones

[lean grove]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

[bold otter]

are those good? like are they ok if i get them

peple wont have a fit if get them?

[bold otter]

Cause it's dumb. I roll all over when i sleep

[lean grove]

They're one of the best

Like, regardless of price.

[bold otter]

:d

[elder thistle]

someone posted that saying it was $20 off

as in usd $179

[bold otter]

What

I mean another $20 would be nice but the headphones are $219 according to the site

[elder thistle]

I really need to get them soon and test them against my hd600

a bit skeptical they'll be equivalent minus tuning, but we'll see

thing is, I like the hd600 but I'm not crazy about it either

does what it should for $300

[bold otter]

:d they look good from what i saw in reviews

[elder thistle]

yes

and the hd600 is pretty widely liked by their users

not everyone of course. I've let quite a few people try them and the most common complaints were about the bass and overall lack of intensity

and the similarly related "I'll keep my bose" comment

[bold otter]

meh

base isn't everything

[elder thistle]

I'd describe the hd600 as balanced (though lacking bass), pretty detailed, realistic/accurate midrange, smooth treble, a little wider sounding than most headphones, acceptable instrument separation and punch, pretty good front/back distinction of sounds in games, and was really comfortable for me at least

[bold otter]

I can't tell do they have a jack or is it usb?

[elder thistle]

just a jack yeah

cable detaches which is good

[bold otter]

perfect. also got a $10 coupon code

[elder thistle]

nice. well if my description sounds pretty good and if the hd6xx is as good as people say it is (kinda a warmer tilted hd600), I'm sure you will be very happy with them

[bold otter]

yeah I need a good pair of headphones. its time 🙂

[elder thistle]

you will be able to power it to pretty high volume levels with a pc's audio jack. if you want some level of guaranteed dac/amp quality, there's dongle dacs out there now for literally $8-15 which work super well (apple usb-c dongle, or for a non-apple option you could try the jsaux usb-A dongle or koopao usb-A dongle

don't expect it to get really loud though

if you want that extra volume, a hiby fc1 dongle is a little more specialized and has a better amp stage, getting it close to concert levels

annoying volume fade-in though in a few media players

[bold otter]

oh i don't need it loud

[warm scarab]

headroom is always useful

[elder thistle]

yes it's nice to be able to crank it up if a youtube video is really quiet

or if you try out eq to boost the bass or treble or something, which comes at the cost of max volume

[lean grove]

Rumor is that they use drivers which don't meet specifications for the 650. So I don't think they'd be 100% equivalent, but at the very least 90% of the way there. Which is still miles ahead of other options at $200

[stone elm]

Edifier G2000 speakers, anyone have?

Wanted something not so expensive and small to fit in my setup for my 2 year old, i'm surprisingly impressed. These things are pretty nice.

[tepid torrent]

The only conspiracy theory I believe

[unique wind]

@lean grove @warm scarab hifi

[unique wind]

lmfao

i just made an iem hard to drive

[wheat moss]

...

[unique wind]

it requires high gain on my magni

[elder thistle]

yee, I've heard that one. also something about the rear damping foam being different, but pretty sure that's a main difference between hd600 and hd650 anyways

you know which headphones I like better than my hd600 lol. but they aren't as versatile, harsher/stranger without eq, and probably less comfortable

[bold otter]

@molten skiff https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx?mode=guest_open&utm_campaign=Transactional%3A Order Captured&utm_source=SparkPost&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Transactional%3A Order Captured&utm_content=1700270567898.289586254199644277765984&referer=C23633

[molten skiff]

ppl always told me to get 560s are those better than 6xx

[bold otter]

😐

[elder thistle]

eh...

if it was $130 I'd be pretty excited

[lean grove]

If you can afford the 6xx, you should get the 6xx

[autumn shale]

best headphones for under 200

[elder thistle]

rr

rrrrrrr

I will form invalid mouth geometry in response to blanket statements

[fast stratus]

Saw a pair of 660s for 350 on marketplace the other day

[lean grove]

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx

[elder thistle]

close enough

thought that was a response not a question saimur

[elder thistle]

wait this gives me an idea

yes

2x yes

if you wished to obtain the power of a circle

would you rather buy a blurry circle or a crisp octagon

a stupid analogy will be formed in the near future

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[elder thistle]

impressive techs vs impressive frequency response

historically speaking I used to refer to techs literally as sound quality

unless there was an egregious hole or series of peaks

[oblique palm]

Turns out I was using about 3w coming out of my 120w amp, so I jumped ship and got this instead

[elder thistle]

does it rock

might be a cool arduino project to have an external volume knob and some relays that uses the gjallarhorn for the first 10W then switches over to the powerful amp if you hit the max voltage of the quality one

and maybe switches back after 30s of not peaking or something

[scarlet shale]

Question, can I use the Stream Deck + with any microphone and interface, or is it locked to the elgato wave series?

[bold otter]

Uh idk. I use autocad with a stream deck so

[rocky spruce]

so since it turn out my new phone has no headphone jack, im looking for wireless ear buds, comfy one if possible, is there any decently cheap but with decent sound quality ?

[molten lotus]

🤔

[runic goblet]

Does someone have any idea if i can use a Logitech G Pro X headset (calbe version) without the usb dongle in a "good way"? I'm already using a soundcard + hk6500 amplifier so cant use usb headphones.
Does it have a good sound out of the box without changing anything in ghub (changes i cannot do)?

[rigid kettle]

I'm looking for a decent set of speakers for my desktop.

Something close to being comperable to Kanto speakers, but not commanding the hefty price tag

[molten lotus]

@white gate why is this type of user allowed in the server...

[rigid kettle]

Like, the YU2s look amazing

But holy shit they're close to $300 CAD

[lean grove]

unfortunately thats not really a bad price for speakers.
not that I would recommend anyone buy the yu2's.

so take a look at options from edifier instead. they have much cheaper options that are still decent.
also take a look at the klipsch promedia 2.1.

[rigid kettle]

Ok, let's go by budget.

$100. What can you recommend?

I am currently looking at the R33BT

But they seem a bit too big to fit on a desk

[lean grove]

klipsch promedia 2.1, edifier 1280, and edifier mx4

[molten skiff]

what are the best headphones for like an immersive single player experince

[lean grove]

hd800 are pretty immersive

[molten skiff]

arent those like 1600 dollars

[lean grove]

if you look used you can find them for under $1000

but yes

[molten skiff]

a bit out of my price range

most id spend is like 500ish

[lean grove]

oh. uhh. not sure then what the best would be

maxwell maybe

they now have 3d head tracking

and atmos

[molten skiff]

I heard the dt 990s were good

and dt900x

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-confused-unsure-undecided-gif-3294343

they're popular

dt880 would be a better pick imo

if you want then ultra v shape of the 990 by all means though

[molten skiff]

I prefer headphones with a good bass cuz currently have the 560s and feel like the bass is a bit weak

so basicly immpersive headphones with a strong bass

[lean grove]

990s might be for you then

[molten skiff]

whats difference in 990s and 900x cuz some ppl told me they were better

[lean grove]

not totally sure

you might have to do some digging on that

[molten skiff]

ok

[tawdry gale]

900x less treble peak

[autumn shale]

can someone help me

my Logitech G PRO X Gaming Headset hasnt been connecting to my output device since yesterday

i tried to connect it wired and wireless front and back io

updated drivers and everything

nothing is working

[lean grove]

have you tried emailing logitech support

[autumn shale]

nah i did not

[lean grove]

i would start there

[autumn shale]

alright gonna do that

[abstract rapids]

I recently got some ad700x as an upgrade from my previous headset. Is there anything i should do to get the most out of them or is plug and play enough? Does a mixer/audio interface even effect the sound that much compared to mb audio?

[lean grove]

well if you're happy with your headphones now and want more out of them, then a nice amp and dac will do that for you.

with the ad700x, you dont really need to worry about power since theyre pretty easy to drive.

so if you wanna get a cx31993 dongle of some sort or an apple usb type c headphone adapter then that would be a good option.

[warm scarab]

doesn't ad700x have some schizophrenic tuning

[eager quiver]

are the nekocakes any good or are there better options at the price

[abstract rapids]

I was just curious if there is a significant audio difference between the plug n play aspect of them or if i need to get additional hardware/software to maximize the potential

[eager quiver]

Also thoughts on Sundaras vs 650s?

[lean grove]

oh. i mean. kinda yeah kinda no. it depends on you.
are you the type of person to listen to the same part of a song and pick out every detail or do you just listen to music on whatever?
Because if you care about how things sound, then yeah it'll be significan.t
if you dont care about sound then its really not worth it.

[abstract rapids]

It's more for games really. Preferably having the crispier the better

[lean grove]

it wont improve your KDA

itll just make things sound better

[abstract rapids]

ik lol

[lean grove]

probably a little bit smoother

depends on what you get

[abstract rapids]

Just want to make sure it sounds as good as it can be

[lean grove]

then buy a dac and amp. you can also use a free software like peaceUI to EQ them

https://youtu.be/PsijHAVLbuY

[granite summit]

Do I grab these free Yamaha NX-GX50’s?

[lean grove]

looks pretty bad to me

[granite summit]

Hahahaha

Soooo funny

Stfu

[lean grove]

how many servers did you post this in

[lean grove]

worst $1000 you can spend on headphones

[wheat moss]

free yamaha stuff? hell yeah

[lean grove]

yamaha has more misses than hits when it comes to speakers.

[haughty girder]

There's only really one hit in the past 20 years

hs80 are pretty solid

hs8 is ok

the rest all suck

the main issue with hs8 is the jbl308

which is better is just about every way

[lean grove]

do the hs80 have that weird dip in the mids that the hs8 has

[frosty ocean]

I hate ear hooks

What was normal human hearing range?

according to this graph...0Hz is 110? that seems impossible

[lean grove]

the graph stops at 20hz

and technically possible, it would imply that the earbuds can raise the air pressure of your ear canal. which is technically possible

and normal human hearing range is 20hz to 20khz

[autumn shale]

So that did not work

can you also recommend me a good dac and xlr cable for a shure mv7

[lean grove]

idk how to help with the logitech issue

[frosty ocean]

I'm sure there's some way to get that number using the spacing of the grid...but I'm not that smart.
Is it normal for word spikes and dips to happen at 5-10khz?

[lean grove]

for the mv7 check out the motu m2 or the elgato wave xlr. the elgato is probably gonna have a worse dac than the motu m2, but it has a lot of cool features.

[autumn shale]

i will probably just buy one of these

[wheat moss]

xlr - anything with real neutrik XX connectors and proper quality cable
dac? don't you mean an adc/interface?

[lean grove]

yeah 560 is good.

[autumn shale]

can you send the links?

[lean grove]

no

[autumn shale]

would these be good

[wheat moss]

great cable, and decent interface

[lean grove]

uhhhhhhhh, scarlett solo is kinda mid. overhyped.

[autumn shale]

alright then i will just buy these

[autumn shale]

what would you say?

[lean grove]

https://www.amazon.com/MOTU-M2-USB-C-Audio-Interface/dp/B0812B26TN
https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Wave-Tap-Mute-Mac/dp/B09738CKKX

and $90 for an xlr cable is huge

do you need 20 feet

[autumn shale]

10 is good enough

oh yeah for the shure mv7 i kinda broke

both of the cables

☠️

[wheat moss]

then get the 10ft mogami instead

or if you have a soldering iron, order 10ft of mogami W2549 cable and a male and female neutrik XX connector to save a bit of money lol

[autumn shale]

so this

[wheat moss]

yeah

[autumn shale]

money isnt really a problem so it good

[autumn shale]

so this and the scarlet is fine

[wheat moss]

yeah

[molten skiff]

looking for bass heavy headphones for an immersive experince when gaming

[autumn shale]

alright thank you both @wheat moss @lean grove have a goodnight / day

[wheat moss]

[molten skiff]

was thinking about getting dt990s but I read the bass is a bit weaj

[lean grove]

motu m2 is better than the scarlett btw.

[wheat moss]

and costs more

[autumn shale]

so get the motu instead

[lean grove]

.

[autumn shale]

would i need to get the wave xlr

[lean grove]

no

[wheat moss]

and is it actually? do you have experience with it?
it's product photos do not inspire confidence

I ask this because I've never heard of it, and I've been doing this shit for many years

[lean grove]

im going off of julien kraus's measurements.

motu i know by reputation for just having super clean interfaces.

oh thats the 4x4

[autumn shale]

would i connect my headphones to the front io of my pc or the dac

interface wtv it is

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/7Xl7X4yr8A0

4x4 seems to be a bit worse than the 2x2

[wheat moss]

with an interface, you'd generally plug your headphones into the headphone output of the interface

[lean grove]

actually the 2x2 has a worse headphone amp

what the hell, 50 ohm output imepdance

[wheat moss]

monitoring is useful for not yelling into your mic without noticing

[autumn shale]

alright got it

i have a logitech g pro x wireless headset

and evertyhing was good about it

till todaty

[lean grove]

also motu interfaces are so clean that some audio companies use their interfaces as an affordable amplifier measurement rig.

[autumn shale]

it was not connecting to my device output but

it says its on and stuff

connected support and stuff and nothing really helped

[wheat moss]

alright

but is it really worth the extra $60? they have a basic single mic setup, it's not like they need anything fancy, the solo shouldn't have the issues that the cheapo behringer has

[wheat moss]

are other things working? your motherboard's audio may just have died

[autumn shale]

yes

everything else is fine

[wheat moss]

ah

typical logitech then

[autumn shale]

probably lol

[wheat moss]

those HD 560 S' should work well then

but you may want closed backs for using a mic

wow, just watched a new channel category appear

[lean grove]

if @autumn shale cares about using the headphone output then yes

the output impedance on the 4th gen being 50 ohms is unacceptably high

and it looks like theres channel imbalance too

[autumn shale]

cant i just connect the headphone wire to the front io of my pc

[lean grove]

sure

[autumn shale]

and the mic to the dac as is

[lean grove]

sure

[autumn shale]

alright

[wheat moss]

iirc the 560 S will come with a big jack meant for an interface/dac, so good luck plugging that into the computer lol

[lean grove]

its removable

[wheat moss]

the one on my HD569s wasn't

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ah I see it in the product photos

good

[lean grove]

sennheiser has learned a lot since then

[elder thistle]

mine is not removable either

the cable can be removed from the headphones, but the part that plugs into the interface is a rubberized 1/4" jack, not a 3.5mm with a screw on adapter

[wheat moss]

mhm

I need new earpads

[elder thistle]

also that kind of money for the cable is just nonsense if you ask me

I had mogami cables when I didn't know what I was doing

now I use cable matters if I want really nice balanced cables

[lean grove]

nice xlr's are only really important if you're gonna be doing the cable run near noisy devices. an inferior shorter cable could actually be better if this is at a desktop

[granite summit]

Studio setup 🥰

[elder thistle]

shielding isn't that expensive though

[lean grove]

you should turn your keyboard on its side

[elder thistle]

the cable matters are clones with the same level of shielding

they're also balanced

[wheat moss]

mogami sell their cables at a pretty high markup, they're not the highest sales volume product lol
hence why I mentioned buying the cable in bulk and making it themselves.

[elder thistle]

mogami can stay with 100 foot long runs inside the walls of a 20 million dollar nyc production studio

[wheat moss]

what in the fuck are these knockoff connectors

too cheap to provide the real stuff, while making it look like the real stuff

lmao

[elder thistle]

it's aluminum

[wheat moss]

that has literally nothing to do with anything I just said

the real stuff is aluminium too

[lean grove]

maybe the real stuff is overpriced

[wheat moss]

it's literally not though

[elder thistle]

modular

[wheat moss]

the wholesale price for XXs is fucking nothing

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

guess cablematters got a cheaper altnerative

stuff adds up when you buy in bulk

[wheat moss]

not
"a cheaper alternative"
it's "we cloned this to save literal pennies"

[lean grove]

stuff adds up when you buy in bulk

why not save pennies when theres no difference

[frosty ocean]

ill sure microsoft's "wav" format doesn't support things like 1-bit samples, but is there a reason one couldn't just make the file have those parameters?

[wheat moss]

there absolutely is a quality difference
if they actually cared about cost so much, they wouldn't literally clone the looks of the better product

[elder thistle]

other end

[wheat moss]

what is your point? it's literally an XX clone, of course it's going to look the same as the inside of an XX

[lean grove]

whats the difference?

[elder thistle]

you can see the stranded ground/shielding as well as the spiral aluminum one just barely

awesome cable

I would use it in endgame gear and feel embarassed to use a mogami

[wheat moss]

measurement tolerences, material quality, quality control, etc

[lean grove]

i see

[elder thistle]

citation needed

[lean grove]

@elder thistle does your xlr cable plug in correctly

[elder thistle]

yus

[lean grove]

then i think its fair to say that those measurement tolerences, material quality, quality control, etc are good enough for the knockoff

[elder thistle]

also it was 2 of these 15 foot cables for $27 total

[wheat moss]

source: been doing this shit for years, done many small and large setups.
and also, cable/connector quality really shows up in a place like a school where they get tortured. everything always broke, except actual neutrik ones

[lean grove]

jackson are you in a school

[wheat moss]

🤦‍♂️

[elder thistle]

no I graduated hs and college

[lean grove]

okay. yeah i think his cable is good enough for now, ethan

[wheat moss]

dodging the point entirely, as usual in this fucking server

[lean grove]

well you're making a mountain out of a molehill

off theoretical problems that arent here

if you're in a professional setting no shit you want to spend a little more when downtime can cost you actual money

for a desktop xlr setup thats gonna get plugged in, once a year?

save a few bucks and get taco bell with the savings

[elder thistle]

I like how they're crimped and braced and such

[wheat moss]

🤦‍♂️

[elder thistle]

their TRS cables actually have screw terminals

it's legendary

[lean grove]

oh thats a neat feature

[wheat moss]

their TRS connectors are also just neutrik clones

[lean grove]

yeah idk what you want ethan.

[meager marlin]

Ethan, Nils is right. besides life is expencive. Nothing Wrong about saving some money.

[lean grove]

to an extent there is. you can save so much money you wind up wasting more when you have to buy more when your ultra cheap thing breaks.

but in this case if its 90% of the same product in a situation where downtime isnt costing money then really its not a big deal

[elder thistle]

durability is a fair point but I've been trained on all kinds of wire connections

these look pretty darn good

of course there's never any guarantees but

[unique wind]

idk what the convo is but dont buy a scarlett

[lean grove]

did you see the 50 ohm output impedance on the headphone out

[elder thistle]

anyways regardless of what excellence or lack of excellence the mogami cable has, it's disproportional to the interface

the motu's nice, I like my m4

I would personally die if I had the m2 instead of the m4 because I rely on all of the features in multiple ways every day

[lean grove]

what do you use the extra channels for

[elder thistle]

it was designed for jackson

[lean grove]

which jackson

[elder thistle]

hardware compressor, measurement rig, normal microphone, analyzing vst plugins with rew, setting up redundant recording for obs, music+games if I want to compress the game audio but not the music because it's quiet as shit

capturing system audio

idk it's endless

[unique wind]

nope

funny to know that it's legitimately worse than motherboard audio though

[lean grove]

legitimately more expensive too

[unique wind]

$0.99 cx31993 dongles out here providing better audio than a scarlett

theyre like $8 but all of that is shipping and handling cost

it's cool ill keep limping my half broken magni

[lean grove]

are you gonna get the midgard

[unique wind]

naw

if i was to replace this it would be with some measurememe gear

[lean grove]

la90 with a speaker tap?

[unique wind]

a70 pro is best headphone amp

not ideal for iems tho no negative gain

i dont want to explode my iems if i bump the knob too far

[lean grove]

digital volume knob tho

you dont need negative gain

[unique wind]

i dont know how granular the volume control is

is that even the right word

how small of adjustments i could make

i feel like id turn it 2cm and itd be too loud

[lean grove]

max volume on my 4 watt headphone amp

0.5 db incriments is plenty

[unique wind]

what gear is that

looks nice

oh its a smsl d1se

i didnt expect you to use any chinese amps

[lean grove]

looks like the a70 has the same scheme

0.5 db incriments down to -99db

[unique wind]

damn -99

digital pots for the win

perfect channel balance at any level

[lean grove]

i got the vmv a1 a while back because it was excatly what i wanted for a desktop amp and then i got the d1se to match

[unique wind]

class A smsl amp is a based choice

[lean grove]

its class AB

they're liars

[unique wind]

wtf

[lean grove]

i think its really only class A when you have headphones plugged in

i hooked it up to a wall socket power meter and the power draw changes when music plays

so its definitely not class A

[unique wind]

you got swindled

the only audio purchase i’ve made in the last 3 months is buying the truthear novas

[lean grove]

yeah but it still sounds good and it does the thing i bought it for

[unique wind]

i just spent a grand on my pc instead

[lean grove]

its a speaker amp thats clean enough to use headphones and iems, and you can switch between them with a single button

thats literally all i want

[unique wind]

awesome then man you’re at endgame

[lean grove]

for now. in the future i want to have a fancy active speaker setup using DIY passive speakers and a minidsp shd

thats gonna complicate things

SHD studio has a headphone out but idk how good it is

https://www.mouser.com/pdfDocs/Cirrus_Logic_CS43130_PB.pdf

🛌

i think with the SHD i would be able to use the analog outputs for speakers, and then switch to a digital output for a headphone setup

thats one button

[elder thistle]

mega gamer

you must harass the cable key mechanism with a bolt to use this ride

[frosty ocean]

if my music player isn't loud enough when I use it with my amp, should I amplify it at the input or output?

[frosty ocean]

I'm looking at some cheap thingies on Amazon that look like 4 screw posts in and 4 out on a bare board and a power jack and maybe a nob

if I got a preamp that uses rca Jack's, would it be safe to use pigtails to route the same line going into the premp into an input on my receiver so I can change between using the preamp and not by changing inputs? or might that short something?

then again, I'm thinking most pre-amps would just have a bypass or I could just turn it down

[wheat moss]

two outputs into one input? or am I misunderstanding you

[frosty ocean]

m is music source, p is preamp, r is receiver

the idea is that one input would be unamplified

I'm starting to think I might want a "gain", not a preamp

[wheat moss]

just split the music source output, send one to the preamp and one to a different input on the receiver

[frosty ocean]

I mean, unless I'm using some fancy isolated splitter, isn't that electrically the same?

is it bad if a reciever has trouble amplifying an mp3 player at max volume?

[hollow moth]

If your trying to get one amplified and one unamplified you could use just a y splitter

[frosty ocean]

thanks

[hollow moth]

np

[frosty ocean]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/7115tMhHSFL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

is there anything really special about a "phono preamp"? or would it work as an amplifier in general for any audio source?

[frosty ocean]

a sub amp might be an option as long as there isn't some kind of cutoff filter

[warm scarab]

yes

phono preamps are meant to equalize the unnatural sound outputted by turntables

it will sound like a joke with anything else

[frosty ocean]

ill thinking if I get a subwoofer amp, it'll take care of the fact I want a mono signal I the end

[rocky spruce]

does anyone know some cheap but decent wireless earbud or should i get some more expensive one

[elder thistle]

I predict that the audiophile community will have unintentional mass leverage on the music production community this time and it will cripple 4th gen focusrite sales so bad that they need to do an emergency relaunch or something

(which is good)

[frosty ocean]

I predict I'll buy another sacd for 20 dollars even though its barely worth it

[elder thistle]

most musicians are not that excited about equipment and rarely study it past what's required to not get screwed

which also protects musicians in a few important ways but ok

when audiophile/musician hybrid beings start telling other producers that the 4th gen is a downgrade and making videos about it while being able to actually back it with science, that is all most musicians need to hear to stay away

I mean the primary userbase is rappers

uh, as in it's the popular genre that warrants a mic and interface pretty early on, and there is an amazingly large portion of them that are generally trying to just rap over a beat for plays

prioritizing popularity or imaginary profits over learning to improve and produce for themselves first happens in all other genres too, but they are not dominant genres

[buoyant vale]

Don't forget its 2023, every kid needs an interface and sm7b to yell slurs at their fellow gamers

[steel escarp]

the hifiman edition xs headband is more comfortable than the he1000 stealth

what have I done

[glad creek]

bipolar or bookshelves speaker for a home theater with the sofa up against the wall ?

(focal aria 906 or focal aria sr 900)

(for surround speakers)

[frosty ocean]

is there such thing as balanced arm speakers? or is it not feasible to make them that large?

[civic holly]

Any suggestions for a 5.1 speaker set in Europe around €1000?

[frosty ocean]

1000 dollars...for speakers...
at least you have health care, I guess

[civic holly]

I have proper speakers in my studio along with acoustic treatment etc 😅 Just need something decent for movie night that doesn't break the bank

[frosty ocean]

where in Europe?

[civic holly]

Netherlands

[frosty ocean]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Signature-Resolution-Surround-Satellite-Compatible/dp/B09B7V2PBY/

2 speakers for 200. for 1000, you can have 6 speakers and 400 for a subwoofee, or 8 speakers and 200 for a subwoofer

[haughty girder]

unfortunately audiophiles rarely focus on recording but rather playback

I highly doubt it'll change anything (and if you're a professional you're probably using a clarett not Scarlett)

If using focusrite

Rapping normally doesn't ask for high quality recording either

[haughty girder]

and if Beats proved anything, this doesn't happen.

Beats studio, Raycons, Sony WH series, etc.

basically every "bad" audio product by audiophile standards AND backed by science

but still wildly successful

[haughty girder]

5.1? none that are good

[lean grove]

the audiophile market is growing pretty quickly right now. so i dont think past events can really tell us whats happening in the future

the market is growing from gamers trying to become like streamers and wanting the "best" gear

[civic holly]

Doesn't have to be good, just decent. I've got a pair of Focal Trio 6 monitors in my studio. Just want something that has a decent sound and doesn't break the bank too much. If I want actually good sound I'll use the studio 😜

[lean grove]

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=41287

see if you can find this

you will need to get a reciever

preferably one with a room correction or DIRAC

[civic holly]

The moment something has "THX Certified" as marketing, I'm out :p

I have a good receiver already

[lean grove]

THX isnt just marketing bullshit, its a certification. but i understand the aversion

[civic holly]

Besides, can't get monoprice stuff in Europe

[lean grove]

rip

[civic holly]

Also, frequency response graphs for the entire system, that only goes up to 10k?

[lean grove]

thats for the subwoofer

[civic holly]

How about the SVS system Linus recently featured?

[lean grove]

uhhh sure i guess

i dont think SVS has any serious problems aside from being a bit bright

but with room correction thats a non-issue

[civic holly]

Don't care that it's for the sub, with the labeling it's practically useless. I do t really care that it's visually flat with a scale from 25-100dB. I care about the flatness with a more usable scale, like 70-80/100dB

[civic holly]

Do have room correction. Could even hook up a DSP with useful room correction like phasing etc

[lean grove]

even better

[glad creek]

SVS isn't that interesting in EU imo

Prices are quite high here

The market is super different
Like audiosciencereview people found that the focal aria 906 where just good enough speakers in the US at 1000$ (with MSRP of 2k) when here in france I can get a pair for less than 500eur
Meanwhile speakers recommended there were TWICE the price in france

[civic holly]

Those focals do seem interesting for 500 each. However, for a 2.1 setup with center, I'm still looking at €2000 when I'm using a "cheap" sub

[white gate]

Focal makes some awesome stuff

[elder thistle]

I mean some rappers use beats (beats headphones) but it's usually because they already have them