audio-tech

[willow root]

thats crazy

sounds so clear

[unique wind]

it’s probably processed a bit for the video but i’ve listened to other tests and it always sounds pretty decent

[lean grove]

probably because its in omnidirectional mode

[willow root]

maybe

im not a mic guy so i have no clue

[serene plover]

Just bought in ear monitors for Tarkov

[willow root]

which ones

[serene plover]

Zero Reds

[willow root]

oh damn me too lol

like 30 minute ago

[serene plover]

Red Kings

[timber elm]

The heck is an audiophile ssd? https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/62753-nvme-ssd-designed-for-audiophiles/#comments

[haughty girder]

I shill Wan'er shutup

[haughty girder]

This.... looks like a nightmare

a (seems to be) 12v barrel plug on an nvme card sending that power into what

[candid cosmos]

The nvme - it just gives it external power for no reason.

You can Switch between mobo and external with the jumper.

Gnd is simply connected - so data Transfer is unchanged.

So your Digital ones and zeros dont suffer from like 50mV Spikes in the voltage destroying your holy mp3 files

Its barely as Bad as the network Switch, but that is a legend so yea.

[white gate]

Fools and their money are soon parted

[candid cosmos]

The money from the fools never ends tho

Its just too high Level for us

`
TLC mode: It sounds like background music, no features and powerless, everything is flattened, lacks extension and density.

pSLC mode: There is a special natural feeling, it becomes more smooth and calm, the thickness is slightly increased, and overall it is more resistant to hearing but still slightly dry. `

[serene surge]

How do I let my PC use a newly added audio output, for example just plugged in a DAC. I know I can restart and my PC will automatically detect it but sometimes I need the PC to stay on.

[warm scarab]

just select the audio device?

[unique wind]

you can quickly change your preferred output device by clicking on the sound icon on the bottom right of your taskbar

[smoky cape]

Hi

[unique wind]

hi

[south kraken]

yo yo, quick question, is there any software that can make your voice glitch in realtime while using other voice software ie: voicemod?

[haughty girder]

Can't you stack voicemods?

if you want to troll and have an interface, use a virtual patch or voicemeeter and set interface to MME, then set buffer size to maybe 32 samples

that'll make your audio cut out

if you can find an app that adds that, you can use a virtual patch cable for that

[unique wind]

@lean grove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl3PqwBotvc

[lean grove]

Mildly more interested now

I'm curious if the first watt f7 does something similar

[steel escarp]

I need a DCA Aeon 2 Noire

the headphone seals so well

[glossy latch]

is there any decent microphones for under $100? i got a blue snowball a long time ago for $20 and the discord noise suppression just isn't working with it anymore cause of how bad the mic is

[warm scarab]

there are a lot of decent mics for 30$

this isn't 2013

[glossy latch]

yeah but i honestly dont know what i should get

[warm scarab]

fifine t669

mpm1000u

seiren mini

pick any

[lean grove]

eBay has tons of Dan Clark's

People are more than happy to sell them

[steel escarp]

my head is weird

[lean grove]

We know

[warm scarab]

aeon 2 noire is the decent one isn't it

[warm scarab]

that isn't the only thing

[steel escarp]

my ears are shaped different

[lean grove]

It's the Harman one

[warm scarab]

you are just built very different

grey

[steel escarp]

some things work really well and other things dont

dca aeon 2 noire was amazing

maybe I thought it's dynamics were good opposed to anyone I talked to because its the first headphone I used that seals properly

[steel escarp]

I am asymmetrical

dt880 just sits flat against my ears which works really well for me

goes to show the fit of a headphone is really important

[unique wind]

get aeon closed x

probably the affordable endgame closed back

[steel escarp]

IEMs stage more

[severe karma]

I have been pondering headphone cup fit a lot recently. I have the B&W PX8, B&O H95 and also have super old Sony XM2s, those are my ANC wireless collection. But the PX8 were super hard to like at first (though excellent in the shop lol) and most of that is the cups. They are big which seems like a good thing but somehow their seal always breaks if I turn my head or move my jaw. Especially chewing where the jaw muscle seems to push them up. Breaking the seal in ANC headphones is very bad, the sound change is huge and distracting. Reviews make out large cups are a great thing but when I went back to the Sonys it felt really strange at first, their cups don't fit over my ears at all. But the seal is perfect always. And the H95 are also smaller than the PX8 and they also seal a lot better, despite having their cups made of the same material as far as I can tell.

[fading fractal]

Does a stereo amplifier exist that can output multiple inputs at the same time ? Like an ampli-mixer, not having to switch between them.
For instance I can listen to music from the computer and play on my Switch at the same time.

[lean grove]

what you're looking for is a mixer.

[fading fractal]

But I can't connect my speakers on it directly, can I ?

[lean grove]

what kind of speakers do you have

[fading fractal]

The vintage ones, but they sound great. They used to be connected by copper cables.

[lean grove]

ah. gotcha.

yeah i dont know if theres a single thing that can do what you want

you'd need to buy two things

[fading fractal]

That's what I thought as well, but wanted to be sure. 😉

[unique wind]

-_-

[steel escarp]

I am not even joking

wait that was the aeon 2 closed

[unique wind]

you’d probably like the aeon closed x

it’s like harman but with a hifiman dip

[steel escarp]

I dont like the dip

[unique wind]

you have learned to appreciate correct ear gain

[steel escarp]

dt880 with worn pads is even what some consider shouty

which is what I am wearing rn

I love a little bit of shout

in the right way

[unique wind]

honestly really good for closed

[steel escarp]

it is

[unique wind]

better than noire imo, too bad it’s a lot uglier

[steel escarp]

when did it release

the 2 noire is a lot better than the 1

[unique wind]

supposedly it has very few resonances too, far less than hifiman headphones

[steel escarp]

just from pad change

[unique wind]

i don’t know but it’s the aeon 1 driver with the same new earpads that noire has

[steel escarp]

it felt way more midrange forward

[steel escarp]

yeah, they fix the treble

[unique wind]

i think it’s around a year old

it was on sale for $400 along with the open version a couple days ago

i was close to buying it but i just don’t like headphones

[steel escarp]

welp

if only they used sensible connectors

like 3.5mm

[unique wind]

yeah the weird connector is annoying but i’ve heard it’s a good connector

the aeon open x is trash stock but with eq it’s one of the smoothest planars that exist

[steel escarp]

small driver on the aeon x closec

[unique wind]

same size as noire

that’s just how the aeons are

[steel escarp]

looks slightly bigger

[unique wind]

its not they’re both 62x34

according to dans site

[steel escarp]

I see

focal stellia tho

[unique wind]

it’s sad that aeon noire’s response is a lot worse than the drop closed x

[unique wind]

because it’s so much prettier and has the folding mechanism

[steel escarp]

the measurements vary a lot

worn in vs new pads also really change the sound

like I wore some super worn in pads

sounded so good

I need a few more months before I can afford anything audio related sadly

need feliks tubes for the dt880

[steel escarp]

the folding mechanism kills the pads

[unique wind]

wha

[steel escarp]

they give you an insert that you have to put between the pads if you store them like that

[red glacier]

I have a weird ass living room.. if i post a picture could someone give me recommendations for placing rear left and rear right speakers? tysm.

[full fossil]

I'm currently looking for headphones that I can use basically anywhere mostly in the fitness and on walks.
Currently I've stopped on the wh-1000xm4s for 270USD and the xm5s for 355USD
Most important things for me are sound quality, anc , ambient sound and conversation awareness
(Please note I'm From Bulgaria)

[unborn gale]

are these just hifiman pads?

like on the arya and ananda

[steel escarp]

no

Dan Clark Audio pads

[unborn gale]

ah

[willow root]

zero reds kinda cool

[fading fractal]

For merging mulitple audio sources (as RCA): Instead of using an audio mixer, could I simply use RCA splitters/joiners ? 👀

[willow root]

i did not expect that decent of a bass response from them with the impedence adapter

[mellow wing]

@lean grove 😤

[mellow wing]

wow i love them

[lean grove]

Happy to hear it!

Edifier makes good stuff

[mild sedge]

I mean you could

[severe karma]

At what volume? Humans hear differently as volume raises so these charts are always confusing for me. Some headphones adjust for this so will have different response graphs for different volumes. Then if you are using those charts to judge sound then at what volume is he recording at? Also how does he judge the seal he gets when testing headphones? Where is his seal data and how does he account for it?

[haughty girder]

Volume doesn't matter, this isn't what you hear, it's what the headphones are like compared to themselves

your ears amplify frequencies differently from person to person and even your left ear to right

Which is why it's very hard to judge a headphone just solely on its fr graph

it's pretty rare to find a pair of headphones that accounts for the fletcher munson curve because it's pretty pointless and expensive

Asking why headphones don't adjust for this curve is the same question as why don't speakers adjust for this curve... and by extension why doesn't life adjust for the curve
The curve is merely meant to be used as research and data about our own ears. Realistically speaking the curve doesn't really matter in life. Speakers try to resemble life, and headphones try to resemble speakers.

Seal data isn't normally published because it's often messy. Most reviewers (Rtings being the exception, and sometimes crinacle) will simply measure, refit then measure again. How many runs they choose to do depends, some people measure 10 times and average it out (rtings posts fit data too), others just measure a few times and record the median
Reviewers will opt for subjective comments instead, like "with glasses, the amount of bass noticeably decreases"

[severe karma]

Volume matters quite a lot though. As I said humans, all of us, hear bass comparatively weaker vs other frequencies the lower the volume. So balanced sound at one volume is completely unbalanced at a different volume.

I get that you are saying it's what the headphones produce independently, but this is then used to say one headphone has a bass boost etc. When this is just misinformation.

[lean grove]

Headphones incorporating Freddie Munson curves into their DSP is pretty rare.

And this is really just pedantry

There's a technical problem that you're highlighting but realistically good headphones are still good headphones

[haughty girder]

it has a bass boost compared to say, another headphone

the most important part to remember is that frequency response doesn't change

Volume doesn't matter for measurements, you compare measurements to other measurements, not your own hearing

If you read what I sent right before the seal data

I mentioned how

Real life things (going outside) will not change frequency response to account for our ears. Speakers aim to replicate this, so it doesn't need to account for the curve. Headphones and iems aim to replicate speakers, but with only side presentation because of where the drivers are.
Another detail to remember is that headphones account for HRTF which is required to replicate speakers and by extension, life

Just because one headphone measures more bassy than another, that doesn't neccesarily make it a bassy headphone to our ears, but IS a bassy headphone when that specific frequency range is isolated and compared to another headphone. that's measured by the mic, not our ears

and because it's not our ears (and brain) that is measuring the frequency response, the loudness contour does NOT play a role because again, that's for a human and measurement rigs are not humans

[haughty girder]

Also you answered your own question. Frequency response of the headphone does not change, but we perceive it as less bass. And a "balanced" sound at one volume will never be completely unbalanced at another volume BECAUSE headphones replicate speakers which follow life, not a weird scientific theoretical mastered sounds

or if application questions are better for you, answer this: Will a bus change its average frequency response to a mic depending on its volume

[small notch]

my zorin os is not recognizing my mic (blettoth headset ) wht to do help

[cosmic wraith]

https://dbshop.ro/produs/subwoofer-auto-reiss-audio-rs-rx12-lite-d2-sau-d4-1000w-incinta-bas-reflex-50l/

Hz?

[sinful inlet]

i know this is a little like, unbecoming to say, but if i wanted to get the arctis nova pros, would anyone know if they had that old same problem with the original arctis pros? like i owned a pair that was used from ebay cause i got em for like 100, and after a couple days of use noticed the plastic around the hinge area on the cups started to crack and one day it just gave way and the cup just dangles from the wire on the side now

i think when i look at listings online for the nova pros, the cups are made of metal? so im hoping the same things dont happen?

[severe karma]

But this is what I am saying. It doesn't change. To be accurate it needs to change. Apparently Apple headphones change with volume which is correct, but I don't know of others. High-end receivers long ago used to have this function. But now if you read reviews and believe response graphs you have no idea how it will sound if you listen at lower volumes. They only apply at mid to max.

[white gate]

In what particular way?

[haughty girder]

To be accurate to what.

The most accurate headphone is one that accounts for the lost HRTF with side presentation and ear bypass

which is why headphones and iems need a pinna gain region

Like, are you gonna complain to God that life doesn't get more bassy when things become quieter?

Also what is max volumes?

If you read reviews, the reviewer will likely state what volume they listen at

Crinacle for example, normally listens to audio at 50db

If you have never tried something considered neutral then of course you won't know how it will sound

the FR graphs compare speakers to speakers, headphones to headphones

because the measurement rigs use ears that aren't yours

but on a standardized test rig they can compare against each other

but this is also why it's ALWAYS emphasized to go and test headphones by yourself. Your ears are unique, you hear things differently. I'm generally less sensitive to shout but more to sibilance than most people, and that changes what headphones I like compared to someone else

[haughty girder]

But again,
You need a reference for accuracy, and the reference for all audio devices is real life sounds, which do not account for the Fletcher Munson Curve.

But studies have proven that to most people, more bass = better quality. People like bass. Boosting bass at low volumes makes people like the headphones more, not because it's more accurate.

[warm scarab]

they don't have that issue anymore but afaik the nova 7 is better

[full fossil]

What's better
Wh-1000xm4 for 499BGN (269USD)
Wh-1000xm5 for 659BGN (355USD)

[haughty girder]

neither

[steel escarp]

wait they really charge 350 for that e-waste?

holy moly

[haughty girder]

well it has a really good codec and totl ANC

it's just that actually good ANC is dominated by three companies and is pretty difficult to do well at a low price

[unique wind]

it’s harder to match 2-8khz to the harman target on noire than it is with closed x

i imagine the difference would be exaggerated too since closed backs have worse seating variance and person to person variance

[white gate]

The harman target shouldn't be aimed to be matched there. The harman target is smoothed to iirc 1/3rd and also there is to my knowledge no study at all concluding that a smooth response there is better

I'd strongly suggest reading the segmentation paper if you've not done so, and particularly the info surrounding confidence intervals

the harman target is NOT intended to be used as a single 'target line' even though many believe that is the case. (And the wording doesn't help)

[sinful inlet]

do they have a wireless version on the 7? i never looked into it

lemme check online

[warm scarab]

they do

[sinful inlet]

oh cool

[icy notch]

Hello, I currently have static noise coming from my speakers. Especially when I have my laptop charger plugged into my laptop. I imagine I need some sort of grounding device connected in between my laptop and the speakers.

Right now I bought a TRS to 3.5mm and hooked up my Rokit Classic 5 speakers to them.

What exactly do I need to fix the static noise?

[sinful inlet]

and cheaper too nice

but the one thing that sucks is the reason i like the pros is bcs of the swappable battery in case i run out, im always forgetting to charge my stuff

ill prob come to a decision later

[lean grove]

do the rokit's still make the static noise when they're not plugged into your laptop?

[full fossil]

So they are trash?

[steel escarp]

yeah

[full fossil]

Any better headphones you can recommend ?

[lean grove]

and we never heard from gray again

[steel escarp]

audeze maxwell

for the same price

[lean grove]

aha there she is

[lean grove]

are these desk headphones or on-the-go headphones

[steel escarp]

[floral obsidian]

Right this question isn’t gaming but I’m tryna set my go pro up for using as a dashcam on my motorbike but can’t use my microphone and charger at same time so been looking for ages for a solution

Would anyone know what type of cable adapter I’d need for two of these to fit into one

These two into this

Like a brick type thing

Like this but with the mini usb end instead of the USB

[full fossil]

Sorry for the super delayed response
They are for on the go because I already have a desktop ones

[lean grove]

Ah. I mean. You could do worse. Theyre just really expensive for sounding not as good as cheaper stuff like the Maxwell or JBL tune 710.

[full fossil]

Are these the maxwells you are talking about?

[lean grove]

Yeah. The mic is removable. Other than ANC they're gonna out perform anything sony makes.

[full fossil]

Issue is they are on the heavier side and anc is kinds important to me since I live in a bit of a louder area. These seem as a good replacement for my arctic nova 7 later on but my current options are xm4 or xm5 just because of the anc and customization they offer

Only thing is I don't know which one to get

[lean grove]

Ah. Check out what Rtings has for their anc performance and raw frequency response My main issue with sonies is that they have a huge bass shelf which makes everything sound bassy. So check which has the smaller bass shelf or the better ANC.

[full fossil]

I use Rtings and sound guys because sound guys even give an equalizer configuration that makes them sound even better. But I will dig a bit more

[full fossil]

the Sony WH-1000XM4 lasts 19 hours, 59 minutes with ANC on and this falls short of the 30-hour specification. The Sony WH-1000XM5 outdoes this at 31 hours, 53 minutes with ANC on

I think the xm5s are a winner

For 160BGN more ig it's worth it

Better than the earbuds I'm currently using

My ears hurt so much from them

[lean grove]

those "higher is better" graphs are pretty biased. you should really be looking at raw data. because sound guys saying that the bass on both of those things are almost perfect, but that really isnt the case

like this is for the xm5 and i'd probably say this is closer to like, maybe a 4 or a 6 out of 10

this is for the xm4

[thick lake]

hey i could use some help. i have drop he4x headphones and i want new ear pads, preferably leather ones. anyone know where i can get some? i found a yt video with exactly what i wanted but their links no longer worked

Thank you!!

[lean grove]

dekoni might have some

[thick lake]

does not look like it. Idk if there's another headphone with the same style pads. I would think it'd be semi universtal

[unborn gale]

Could check Aliexpress too

[icy notch]

It's when they are plugged into my laptop.

Would a product like this fix it? https://www.amazon.com/Smof-Isolator-Speaker-Eliminate-Completely/dp/B0171PQLB8/

[lean grove]

if its a low hum, yeah it might

if its a normal hiss then no

you'd need a dac

something like an apple usb type c dongle or a cx31993 dongle would help

[lean grove]

well, yeah. but how different headphones respond to different earpads is an unknown unless they're measured

any 4xx, 400se, 500, etc pad should work

[icy notch]

Oh interesting. It's noise that happens when my mac is plugged into the outlet. However, for my windows laptop it's a louder.

Can you link me a dac that I could use?

Wanna just see my options

[lean grove]

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-♪Hi-Res-Lossless-Headphone-CX31993/dp/B0B5L5ZQBN

cx31993 is a solid dac chip, theres tons of options

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-Headphone-Jack-Adapter/dp/B07K25P3N1

[icy notch]

Oh I see, so this dac chip is built into some of the converters? Is this much better than the isolated ground?

[lean grove]

well i dont think your issue is ground

i think your issue is just random electrical noise from your laptop and from inside the speakers

the external dongle dac will hopefully have a better power filter than the dac built into your laptop

and reduce the noise

[icy notch]

Ah gotcha

Does the apple usb-c dongle have the cx31993 dac chip inside?

I might have one of those laying around, can take a look

Or should I order the one that you had sent

[icy notch]

Makes sense

[lean grove]

if you have a type C apple dongle t hen by all means use it

its not the cx31993 chip

apple has something else

but its still a clean dac

[icy notch]

Ah bummer I think I left it in a different state X_X.

The cx chip is a better chip? Since I can go out to buy an apple dongle tomororw

But I figure if the cx chip is better, I can probably order on amzn and just wait.

I do live near a micro center too, so I can browse

[lean grove]

cx is better.

https://www.amazon.com/Meizu-Converter-Headphone-Amplifier-Compatible/dp/B0B42ZML9S

this is also a cx31993 with a decent reputation, but that good reputation was with an older model

[icy notch]

Ah gotcha, would you rec. I buy https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-♪Hi-Res-Lossless-Headphone-CX31993/dp/B0B5L5ZQBN

[lean grove]

its got the cx31993 chip so it should be good

[icy notch]

Do you think the cx chip would eliminate all static or would I need to buy a big dac?

[lean grove]

if you got the best dac in the world, i think your rockits would still hiss

they have amplifiers built into them which arent exactly the best

you need to be spending thousands on active speakers for that hiss to not become a problem

[icy notch]

Gotcha

But it would eliminate most of the loud white nosie?

Cuz rn it's such a potent noise (overpowers the music)

[lean grove]

best case scenario it will sound as good as the rokits sound while they're not plugged into anything except power

[icy notch]

Gotcha

Thanks for the help, look forward to trying it out!

[willow root]

is the m track solo any good

[lean grove]

It's good for the money

[willow root]

i just need it so i can plug in my guitar into my pc

[lean grove]

It will do that

[willow root]

sounds good

[unique wind]

@lean grove

it launches today, im hoping amir and or resolve measure and review it

if the measurements translate to real world then the iem endgame floor price could be dropped to $150

[candid cosmos]

The Variations arent on endgame because of pure freq response tho.

But yes, the nova will be very good most likely.

[unique wind]

fit/comfort, frequency response, and distortion are 98% of what matters in an iem

iems are physically incapable of having staging differences beyond having a tonal balance difference that exaggerates certain parts of a song because they're minimum phase and directly inside your ear canal

intangible "technical ability" beyond the response smoothness and peaks/dips isnt real

i do acknowledge that the "ideal target" is a substantially more loose term with IEMs and that harman is working on developing a new target, but for now Variations is the best we've seen (in my opinion)

[summer burrow]

need new pair of headphones. does not need to have a mic. i have a stand alone mic. budget 200-400 usd any help is nice. open back not prefered i just need it for gaming/content consumption and music.

[lean grove]

Hd6xx or audeze Maxwell

[warm scarab]

k361, maxwell, hd560s as open

id stress getting an openback tho its a lot nicer

[white gate]

IEMs are actually the one area where they often are not technically minimum phase or linear-time-invariant.
Many IEMs have multiple drivers and crossovers

[white gate]

It absolutely is real.
That's not to say it's 'intangible'. It will absolutely be represented in a combination of the frequency response and other distortion aspects, but our ability to interpret perceived detail from these measurements alone right now is quite spotty to say the least and study on the matter is inconclusive

This is a particularly interesting read. And proposes two alternative metrics to evaluate distortion audibility in a manner much more applicable to the human auditory system, with results showing a vastly better correlated result than typical THD for instance.

I actually gave a talk on this topic recently at CanJam SoCal. Sean Olive (who wrote the Harman paper) was there https://twitter.com/seanolive/status/1708200805130809848

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/how-many-times-do-we-have-to-tell-yo-old-man-fight-spongebob-teach-gif-13596250

[white gate]

For a linear-time-invariant system, the frequency response WILL describe nearly all you need to know about that system. BUT:

• IEMs (and multi-driver speakers with crossovers) are not actually linear-time-invariant or minimum phase

• You'd need to measure the frequency response with no smoothing, which usually is not done (and there are practical challenges to doing this/getting consistent results). You cannot use something like an inverse laplace transform to derive the other information if the FR you have is effectively insufficiently detailed in the first place. Additionally research like the harman curve as mentioned before is heavily smoothed and is an average target which has fairly wide confidence intervals

• You'd need to be able to properly interpret exactly how our auditory system will perceive various subjectively described aspects like detail from that result, which there is plenty of evidence such as the above to show that we cannot yet do that. But in time that will come.

Our auditory system is highly non-linear and behaves in some quite unusual ways which makes it really difficult to model or predict the audibility thresholds of many things when testing them standalone let alone in a more dynamic situation. And our ability to then determine HOW something affects sound rather than whether or not we can simply perceive it or not is a different question again

https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.110.044301

This one is particularly interesting, as it shows that human hearing actually beats the fourier uncertainty principle. Meaning humans are able to discern simultaneous time domain/duration differences and frequency domain differences with in some cases over 10x better accuracy than normal linear processing methods can. We ourselves are doing some really advanced processing of the information reaching our ear that as of yet is not fully understood

[ocean pulsar]

Is there anything that an impulse response wouldnt be able to measure in theory? (not talking about interpret, just the metrology theory)

[sly forge]

heya, i was wondering if a different (higher) bitrate/samplerate in windows would matter for some games? i only use 16bit/44.1kHz for music for obvious reasons, but are there games/do games like for example returnal make use of lets say 24bit/48kHz? if not i wont bother trying, there is a reason 16bit/44.1kHz is the perfect setting on the listening end. i just finalized a pretty good audio setup and wondered of settings to try out (for games)

[lean grove]

I don't think any or many games would take advantage of it. Also when you increase the bit depth and sample rate, more information is being transmitted and the latency increases by a bit.

[quiet ether]

anyone know of some good (preferably wireless) headphones
also lots of bass

was looking at the skullcandy crusher lineup

[lean grove]

If bass quantity is all you care about then I don't know if you're gonna get more than Skullcandy crushers

Otherwise if you care about quality then audeze Maxwell

[quiet ether]

ah

will prolly get the crushers then

[unique wind]

O_O

[steep sierra]

xD

Bass quality, non existant

Bass quantity, very present

[quiet ether]

i like bass

[unique wind]

just a slight 37db peak bass boost

[steep sierra]

PEQ on my Midas M32 doesn't even go that far xD

[quiet ether]

no clue what the graph means but yes yes very good

[steep sierra]

would have to combine inputs & mixing buses to achieve that

I hope you are trolling iono

[unique wind]

i don’t think something like that is possible to achieve without using haptic rumble drivers like skull candies do

[steep sierra]

hahahaha

"Modifying an XBOX controller to sound like skull candies"

yt video idea

[quiet ether]

im serious

these headphones have no fuckin bass

[steep sierra]

just get any closed back

sony has okayish bass quality

[unique wind]

what are you using right now

[quiet ether]

i want my speaker quality without blasting 96db for the bass i want

[steep sierra]

what's your budget?

[quiet ether]

i could prolly do £200 MAX

[quiet ether]

https://amzn.eu/d/8gyOlU6

[steep sierra]

ATH-M50X might be a good option

[quiet ether]

also preferably wireless because i hate wires and also outdoor use

[steep sierra]

ah

My Sennheiser Momentum 4 Wireless have way more bass than my HD 6XX.

But the sound quality is shit compared to it. But hey, convenience for commute and work.

[quiet ether]

i play music through a half shot pair of speakers and my cheap headphones lmao

[steep sierra]

Are you a student?

Then you might be able to get some Sennheiser discounts

[quiet ether]

yea i am

[lean grove]

I would rather people get crushers than m50s

[steep sierra]

lmao xd

they're not bad for live mixing

although I prefer the DT 770 Pro

[quiet ether]

the cone makes a sort of farting sound if i had to decribe it

i think it may be because of my pushed in dust cap but

[lean grove]

Thats called chuffing and happens when a port isn't designed for the power a speaker is meant to put out

[quiet ether]

woofer and midrange

[steep sierra]

is that tweeter

uhh

yes

dented inwards?

[quiet ether]

yes

[steep sierra]

my eyes

[steep sierra]

but but why

[quiet ether]

the other one

[quiet ether]

idk its annoying

[steep sierra]

you might be able to get em back using some sticky tape

[quiet ether]

maybe

i already damaged some of the coil i think

[lean grove]

It's a phase plug.

[quiet ether]

llemme find the vid

[lean grove]

Not a tweeter.

[steep sierra]

oh

didn't know that

[lean grove]

The tweeter is on top

[steep sierra]

I know that the tweeter is for high frequencies

didn't know that the thing in the larger drivers had a different name

[lean grove]

Yeah. That's what the thing on top with 8 screws is

The larger drivers are the woofer

[steep sierra]

yess

[lean grove]

And in the center of the woofer is either a phase plug or a dust cap

It looks kinda small for a phase plug

[steep sierra]

gonna read into that

[lean grove]

So it might just be a dust cap

Which is functionally not that important aside from keeping dust out of the speaker.

[steep sierra]

prevents people from having to open up their speaker to clean it ;)

[quiet ether]

found it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101571959097135236/1154848085952970804/IMG_0071.mov?ex=653c0297&is=65298d97&hm=cd1aef6e29d112673662433a037794879770f8648f49e52f33c28c6c0adfd744&

[lean grove]

Sometimes little kids stick pistachios in the port

[quiet ether]

lil yellow thingy go wheee

also its a 5in cone

[quiet ether]

do u think blu tac may work

[steep sierra]

A lil over budget, but I think these are quite a good option

else the Sony XM4

[quiet ether]

it pulled it up a bit but i have to push down on the cone a bit

progress

IT WENT OUT

yayyy

ty all

[warm scarab]

music so bad your cap imploded

[quiet ether]

the cap had been in for a while now

[willow root]

i cant tell if this is like a hardware issue or just a me issue but when I put the iem in my right ear now it sounds like there is very faint wind or like a howling noise

[lean grove]

try putting that same iem in your left ear and see if it still makes that sound

[willow root]

it only happens like every so often

i cant tell if im like genuinely trippen or not

[lean grove]

well your guess is as good as mine

[willow root]

but it sounds like its deeper in my ear so its probably just me

[lean grove]

does it sound kinda like a flame thrower

[willow root]

uh

best description i have is the sound wind makes

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[willow root]

wasnt happening yesterday so

[lean grove]

could be anything

[willow root]

maybe im just broken

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/paulrudd-gif-18560841

[weary wagon]

as far as wireless earbud goes, what would you guys recommend other than those custom made buds?

[lean grove]

airpods pro are the best

[weary wagon]

i have galaxy buds 2 pro right now, it came with my phone a while ago, would it be a major upgrade or should i wait a bit?

[lean grove]

Why would you wait

[weary wagon]

if the upgrade isnt huge i am gonna save the money for later

i am gonna be broke if i upgrade everytime theres something better lol

[lean grove]

the galaxy buds are pretty good

if you want something fun to play with thats an upgrade over them, check out the truthear holas

[nova wagon]

ehhh its prob a sidegrade
there are a bunch of cool features, but its apple exclusive

[dusky spear]

Does anyone know of a unit, some device which is like a XLR bypass and records?
Essentially, I want to digitally record whatever is coming from a mic, it is directly connected to a enclosed PA system which I defo can't put my hands on, but probably could just leave a recorder outside if it's small enough, can this even be a thing? I have 0 clue about audio so laugh at me if this is a cringe question but yeah
Ideally it should be independent if it can record, like to an memory card, hard drive or whatever

[steel escarp]

I can get an aeon 2 noire for 600 with headphone stand and additional dekoni pads and 4.4mm cable included

Really tempted ngl

@unique wind should I

[tough lava]

Uhhh, is this something you're allowed to be doing?

[dusky spear]

Why is that a worry?

It's a complex thing, and I promise you it's ethical, and nobody here would be even interested if i told the story

[quiet ether]

tell the story

[gray dagger]

good sounding gaming headphones?

/good quality?

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell

[gray dagger]

are they on ear?

[lean grove]

Over

[gray dagger]

is the logitech g pro x an alternative?

[lean grove]

The same way that squeeze cheese is an alternative for 10 year aged parmesan.

[gray dagger]

heard that the maxwells are really heavy

[lean grove]

They are

Well. Not really heavy.

But they're on the heavy side.

[gray dagger]

it’s almost 4 times the weight of another

what’s your alternative to maxwells

[buoyant vale]

its not even 500g

[gray dagger]

ok

it’s says on amazon it’s 2 pounds

[buoyant vale]

amazon is dumb

[gray dagger]

ya thought as much

[buoyant vale]

lcd4 is the real neck workout

[unborn gale]

That's probably the entire box and everything

[warm scarab]

id buy maxwell for 2 pounds

[cold token]

@warm scarab sorry for disturbing u but once i get my zen can, id plug in my headphones into those instead of my dac right?

[buoyant vale]

yeah

[warm scarab]

put the switch on the back of the dac to fixed mode

connect the dac to the can with rca

plug headphones to can

[cold token]

perfect, thanks

[cold token]

wait sorry, there are only two modes which are balanced and variable

its currently set to balanced

do u mean switch it to variable?

[warm scarab]

on your dac?

[cold token]

yep

[buoyant vale]

variable is for when you're using it without an amp

[warm scarab]

what

balanced?

[buoyant vale]

so you can adjust the volume on the dac

[warm scarab]

I don't remember that being an option

[cold token]

holy shit im blind

sorry i was looking at it on a really bad angle

im dumb as fuck mate my bad

[warm scarab]

did you read fixed as balanced

[cold token]

yes and no i guess lmfao

[warm scarab]

i am impressed

[cold token]

im glad i "impressed" u lol

all seems to be working, thanks again guys and sorry for my stupidness

[fading ridge]

"Sony MDR-XB55AP" Are these good for gaming? And some music

Oops

https://amzn.eu/d/iOVzX8G

I've heard they're extra bassy

[topaz briar]

Can someone recommend me some gaming headphones, I'd like decent bass and audio quality, under 100 and if possible then a bit of rgb but that isn't too important

[halcyon rose]

https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Walnut-Aluminum-Headset-Nature/dp/B08C4VSZJQ/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=headphone%2Bstand%2Bwood&qid=1697565826&sr=8-6&th=1

yall think this stand will be good for headphones?

i dont want to damage my headphones

[cold token]

for some reason (maybe its just me) but theres more bass when im using my zen dac v2 instead of my zen can. is that for anyone else or is it just me? (i have truebass enabled on the dac v2 and xbass enabled on my zen can)

[cold token]

it depends on what materials ur headphones are made out of in the headband and earcups area i guess

[upbeat heath]

I'm looking for a new headset to use in the office (Meetings / listening to music and so on).
After some research I've found 2 candidates, but now it comes down to the microphone.
How well they are in supressing noise from the environment.
My 2 Choices are:

• HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless
• Audio-Technica M50X-STS
  Any advice or other suggestions are welcome.

[queen dew]

Razer barracuda x

[tired crown]

best ~100 usd speakers?

[lean grove]

edifier 1280db or klipsch promedia

[tired crown]

which of the second theres a hundred also all these are for is gaming

[lean grove]

whether or not they're for gaming doesnt change much

klipsch promedia 2.1

[nova wagon]

cloud ii

[lean grove]

theres some that have bluetooth, some that are THX certified

i dont think theres much of a difference

you should be able to find them for around $70-$100

[tired crown]

im seeing them start at $150

[lean grove]

usd?

[tired crown]

yeah

[lean grove]

check around some more

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000062VUO

$110 is still a bit higher than i'd like, but they're still worth it

ive seen them at walmart for $80

and they're all over ebay

so you can save some cash if you look around

[tired crown]

opinion on the creative pebbles? every list ive found they are on

[tired crown]

okay ill look more at those

@lean grove im thinking the ProMedia 2.1 but will i need any other interface or anything

[lean grove]

nope. it connects via aux

[tired crown]

cool

[normal peak]

if you can strech go for truthear hola

[main turtle]

Can someone help me with my audio issue? My audio drivers cut out randomly when usinjg my pc and my drivers are up to date. I just dont know what to do and need help. my MB is MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Wifi

[fading ridge]

These ones? They're nearly the same price

[warm scarab]

those ones are pretty solid

[fading ridge]

Oh for like music and stuff?

Alright I have ordered them

[oblique dune]

Is there a hdmi femle in to aux female out cable/adapter? Please @me

[warm scarab]

hdmi audio splitter

[oblique dune]

Thanks!

[errant wharf]

They are fine. Dont expect high quality sound or great bass. They are okay if you want to spend less than $40 on speakers but i really only use them for like youtube

I use headphones mostly, i have the pebble v3 as a backup

[quiet ether]

the qual is def different now

[lusty spindle]

anyone here have the aiaiai tma-2s? i wanna know thoughts on them

[normal peak]

yes

[normal peak]

hope you enjoy them

[fading ridge]

i will, thanks

[primal fulcrum]

which one is red+) which one is black-minus

[weak rapids]

What do yall think of the 2i2 4th gen

[fading ridge]

Have you used them? What are they good for? What about music and gaming

[lean grove]

They're pretty much good for everything

Just all around well performers considering the price

[normal peak]

gaming i can tell where people are

music and tv shows, i can hear them and dont feel as if anything is other powering in things such as music, for example bass drowning out things and its sound quality is good

[warm scarab]

generally you use something with lines to indicate +

don't take my word if it goes to shit and kills your system though

[primal fulcrum]

Aight, ty!
I took the safe option in the end & followed the cables all the way

Also took the opportunity to "rewire" the persons speakers, so every other speaker cables with lines was + & the rest is -. Randomly.

[haughty girder]

It's alright, if you like air mode then it's good, and the preamps are now digital control gain so it has fine control and has a nifty clipguard that was only found in other interfaces like the wave xlr

but if you plan to drive headphnes using em, I'd avoid

[full fossil]

3 days since i have the wh-1000xm5s they are amazing

The anc is the best thing tbh

[sand scroll]

hello, I'm looking to replace my Cloud Alpha Pro to Wired earbuds and I was hoping someone could recommend me some good sound quality items to try out. Around 30-50usd range for starters if possible.

[lean grove]

in 30-50 your best bet for good sound quality is in earbuds. something like the Truthear Hola or the Truthear Zero:Red would be the best options

[haughty girder]

do you need a mic in the cable

[sand scroll]

I can do without, but I would prefer if there is a mic with that price range for when my sibling borrows my mic.

[sand scroll]

thanks, im gonna search for em.

[haughty girder]

At that budget I'd recommend Truthear Zero; Red

but you'd need to get a replacement cable that has a mic

(but this is kind of the great thing about iems, you can pick and choose what you want)

[sand scroll]

just to confirm, this is the one right?
https://www.amazon.com/Fanmusic-TRUTHEAR-Crinacle-Zero-Headphone/dp/B0C5QWMGM6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HJMU4PDUE6VO&keywords=Truthear+Zero%3ARed&qid=1697677400&sprefix=truthear+zero+red%2Caps%2C318&sr=8-1

[nova wagon]

Yep
You can buy from headphones.com if you are in the us

[sand scroll]

am from the Philippines unfortunately, thats why I almost always buy from Amazon if I cant find it locally.

[nova wagon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PHGamers/comments/10gtu2b/oh_tic_tech_toe_is_going_to_provide_truthear/

Cursory search on google

Is this store doing online shopping as well?

[sand scroll]

I think so, but I'll need to research on prices first. I was hoping that the amazon prices would also get affected on the US Black Friday discounts.

cause there is a chance that if it would affect the price on black friday, I may get a better deal buying from amazon.

[nova wagon]

Hmm okay

What I've seen is that Amazon tends to jack up the MSRP right before black Friday so that the discount will get cancelled out

[fading ridge]

I see

[ivory tangle]

if the HD6XX is 475$, the HD600 is 500$ and the HD650 is 600$ which is the better option

aud

[quiet ether]

i hope that some items i want actually get a discount instead

[timid cloak]

https://www.amazon.fr/équilibrés-Dynamique-Ecouteur-détachable-Broches/dp/B07QZRLMXQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

i just got these and there's a slight static sound

i tried using an cable extension of around 2 meters long and it helped a little bit

should i buy and impedance plug ? if yes what resistance ?

[warm scarab]

how much in usd

[ivory tangle]

300, 316, 380

[warm scarab]

far too much for what id pay for any but hd6xx and 650 are what i would pick

they are identical headphones pretty much

[unique wind]

6xx and 650 are identical headphones, and 600 is exceptionally similar

id go with the 6xx if you want one of those since it's the cheapest

[spring sky]

Has anyone tried the H6PRO Epos?

I’m looking for something to replace my razer kraken ultimates

[normal peak]

replace them with truthear holas or tangzu waner

kz sz10's are not good iems

[buoyant vale]

[ornate nexus]

What is anyone's opinion on Audictus Champion Pro headphones?

[lean grove]

They look like every other bottom barrel Chinese OEM headphones

[timid cloak]

I'm returning them for some zeroreds

[normal peak]

W

[frosty ocean]

Sony sent me an email telling me that for hearing something month they took 100 dollars off one of their earbuds...they're 900 dollars

"Great sound while being minimally invasive"

i hope they arent invasive at all!

[lean grove]

i believe they call those "advertisements" in a "promotional email"

[frosty ocean]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51o9N5VqlHL._SL1500_.jpg

How is this a useful size comparison!?

[lean grove]

people stick keys inside their ears all the time

[frosty ocean]

unless im an alcoholic, i have no real idea what any size any of that key is

[lean grove]

average

[frosty ocean]

"#5. Sony CRE-C10 - Most Affordable"

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61-FN0hkCOL._SL1500_.jpg

I'm kinda wondering if there is any sort of validation process for these hearing devices...

[weak kraken]

my PS5 is hooked up to an audio interface via a USB-A to 3.5mm adapter followed by a 3.5mm to dual 6.5mm cable and every time i turn the PS5 on it adds a lot of feedback and buzzing noises

[ornate nexus]

What are some recommendations for wireless over-ears for under 60 euro?

[nova wagon]

JBL tune 710bt

[timid cloak]

are the earphones charged with 10000 volts ?

[simple iris]

What would you recommend for an easy install home cinema sound solution?

[frosty ocean]

goodwill

[lean grove]

The Sony hta9 is pretty simple.

[molten lotus]

Got 0 experience in Microphones, what do I do?

I need something under a 25$ budget.

[steel escarp]

💀

[sinful inlet]

can someone recommend me wireless gaming headphones or a headset for try under 200?

i might honestly just search for the wireless nova pros bcs i love the swappable battery thing

but i prob dont need it since i wouldnt game for than an entire battery sessions and can charge the headphones over night

[leaden arch]

For sure gimme a minute

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Cloud-Alpha-Wireless-Noise-cancelling/dp/B09TRW57WB/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3PFNIXDAZ58HO&keywords=hyperx+wireless+headset&qid=1697861543&sprefix=hyperx++wireless%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-3

@sinful inlet

On sale rn aswell

[sinful inlet]

i didnt even know they had a wireless version of these

[leaden arch]

Lol

[blazing rock]

gamers could anyone help me find a microphone with good noise cancelling, cause my room is very noisy and always has other people talking, so i wanna reduce that as much as possible

[wheat moss]

sounds like you just need a regular mic and a mixer/interface that can do a noise gate

[blazing rock]

i know nothing about mics, could you recommend some good options?

[wheat moss]

budget? location?

[blazing rock]

budget idk lets say 70€ for now

and im in Italy

[wheat moss]

that's extremely low

and I'm not familiar with online stores in italy, so I can't really help there

[blazing rock]

ignore the budget for now

[blazing rock]

i dont think there are any good ones other than like amazon 😅

[wheat moss]

https://www.amazon.it/SENNHEISER-845-S-Microfono-dinamico/dp/B000N94SJC/
https://www.amazon.it/Soundcraft-Ui12/dp/B00ZGA4G86/

entirely throwing out the budget, that microphone is one I personally use, and is on par with the SM58, and on italian amazon, is cheaper than the SM58
the mixer is just the cheapest soundcraft that I know has noise gates, and alllll the other features that come from it being a digital mixer

there may very well be cheaper options..... but from known, quality stuff, this is what I recommend lol

[blazing rock]

idk this just seems some professional studio stuff idk
i just want a mic to vc with my friends without it capturing my brother/parents talking in my room

[wheat moss]

doesn't really exist afaik.... but if you're just using discord, just use the built in krisp noise cancelling, it should block other voices if they're quiet enough

[blazing rock]

with my current mic its not enough

i was just asking for a mic that isnt like extremely sensitive like mine rn

[warm scarab]

xm8500, m track solo and any mic arm of your choice

or cheap out with usb mics, fifine t669, mpm1000u, seiren mini

[tiny bridge]

does any1 here have a z906 logitech 5.1 speakers? I connected them to PC and adjust the sound settings to 5.1 speaker but it only runs with L and R speaker(im using x570 Aorus Pro wifi MOBO)

[blazing rock]

but arent those condenser mic which are supposed to be very sensitive?

[warm scarab]

sensitive doesn't mean what you think it means

if you buy a condenser mic and lower its volume now its as sensitive as a dynamic

[fervent schooner]

Guys what headphones do you recommend with a budget of $250

[stuck garden]

is amplifier + microphone + mic boom the barebones for mics

[warm scarab]

you don't need an amplifier for microphones

well for most

you want an audio interface and additionally a preamp if for some reason you have a super insensitive mic

[unique wind]

are you in the USA, UK, or an EU country?

i ask because we have to know which sites you can order from and there’s a particular deal i can recommend if you are in one of those

[fervent schooner]

Africa

[woven flame]

He did't see this one coming lol

[lean grove]

Can you get the PC37X or the PC38X from massdrop where you live?

[haughty girder]

game one and pc37 are the same thing as the pc37x

[tawdry herald]

Best wireless earbuds? XM5s might have a battery issue of the XM4s so I am weary, so specifically looking for non-sony earbuds. Android.

[lean grove]

Airpod pro 2

[tawdry herald]

For android?

[lean grove]

Yes for Android

The only features you're losing is battery indicator and being able to change the settings, but if you go to a Walmart or a target or just find any iPad you can change the settings once and forget about it for the rest of the time you own them

[tawdry herald]

But what about anc? Do airpods have good, if any anc?

[warm scarab]

yes

[lean grove]

yes, its very good

[placid tundra]

best earbuds for $100?

[lean grove]

Truthear zero: red

[placid tundra]

Wireless

[drowsy blade]

If you could choose any mixing desk, regardless of price or space what would you choose?

[broken slate]

So I recently bought the beyerdynamic dt990 pro 250 ohm for my gaming setup and I am noticing in games like rust, when people are in front of me it sounds like they are to the side/behind me

[lean grove]

Sounds like a problem with rust or your motherboard

[broken slate]

Thats what I was thinking, I restarted my pc just now and am going to relaunch rust

hopefully the audio is fixed if not i'd be sad to have to not be able to use my headphones

Any idea what these mean? They are options for my speaker mode

[lean grove]

That could easily be the problem.

Set it to stereo

[broken slate]

alright

[lean grove]

Is there one that specifically says headphones

[broken slate]

no that is all there is

Honestly I think its just swapped

Like stuff that should be coming out of the right ear comes out of the left

might be a rust thing idk

[lean grove]

Are your headphones on right

[broken slate]

I think so

now that you mention it I might not

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[broken slate]

Ahem

Ignore my stupidity

turns out I indeed as I joked earlier had my headphones on backwards

[candid cosmos]

Is also the reason why the Sound came from the back. Prologic tries to mimic surround - depending on your ear and etc the effect can be pretty good. Same with atmos for headphones or dts:x headphone.

For me f. E. I had to use hesuvi with its openal hrtf options to have a immersive effect.

But i basically never use it coz im just as happy with Stereo.

[full fossil]

Are the Audeze Maxwell currently the best gaming headset? I'm planning on getting them when my artics nova 7 give up

[primal fulcrum]

Logitech PC Speakers are truly the highest end of Hi-Fi Home Theater speaker setups

Subwoofer wih built-in amplifier, Satellites, it really got it all

[candid cosmos]

lol

[lean grove]

Arguably yes

[full fossil]

Playstation or xbox version or it doesnt matter

[lean grove]

Every time I see someone come in saying they bought a Logitech speaker for anything more than $50 I die a little

[knotty bobcat]

hello guys, my jbl 760nc is going to an end so i was wondering what is a good wireless headphone for daily use. i want a headphone that also has good bass

[stone quartz]

Yikes, even Sony's premium A/V receiver has 0.9% THD

Even a $500 receiver from another brand can manage about 0.05

[primal fulcrum]

Damn, that sucks. My Logitech Z-2300 specs says;

"System THD: Better than 0.05% before clipping. Total Peak Power(RMS): 400W"

[knotty bobcat]

?

[stone quartz]

I guess they must be using class D amplification or something

[primal fulcrum]

Class AB

[stone quartz]

Damn, that's impressively poor lol

I mean, it's still not noticeable

But I'd expect better on a receiver that costs that much money

[topaz cypress]

That's only when operated in 2 channel mode.
Always be careful on how you read that.

[stone quartz]

Oh, I see

[primal fulcrum]

You're talking about Z-2300?
It was 2.1 PC speakers, amplifier built-into Subwoofer

[stone quartz]

I mean the Sony receiver I posted

[primal fulcrum]

Ohh

[primal fulcrum]

Then maybe they are Class D as you say

[nova frost]

look up the model for the manual and you'll get more info out of it

[stone quartz]

Might be worth a try

Sometimes they don't go into much detail

[primal fulcrum]

I loved my Sony Xtra Bass Series XB950BT headphones, great bass with the Bass Boost Physcial button pushed

But I think the bass is silghtly less/has been nerfed with every new version of their Xtra Bass series so idk.
Haven't listen to their newer XB-series. Just the 1000XM3.

[topaz cypress]

This is actually a bit awkward...
Sony is a a little less explicit than Yamaha, but neither is giving THD across the multichannel at this point...
It used to be that they would list 2-channel and all channel THD with different numbers.

(Now there's plenty of debate about THD and where/when it matters... but I'm leaving that aside, at the moment I'm coming from a "truth in advertising" perspective.)

[stone quartz]

Is the second screenshot from Yamaha?

Or is that Sony too?

[primal fulcrum]

XB900n & then XB910n is the current XB series I think.
Idk when XB920 releases xP

[stone quartz]

I think the most exaggerated bass I've heard on wireless headphones was probably the AirPods max

I tried them in the store, so maybe someone messed with the EQ

[primal fulcrum]

was it head rattle bass tho?

[stone quartz]

It was on intentionally bassy songs

[primal fulcrum]

Oh, Enya needs to sound like hip-hop bass imo.

[stone quartz]

Ah yeah, that beginning note in Only Time is pretty intense lol

[primal fulcrum]

[stone quartz]

I have a friend who turns the bass up so high that the headphones vibrate on his head

[primal fulcrum]

is HDMI this, HDMI surround standard that really that neccesary?

Old amplifiers is like 10$ at second hand stores otherwise

But the most digital thing they got, maybe is TosLink?

[stone quartz]

Sometimes it's worth buying a top of the range receiver from before HDMI was around

They still sound excellent, and cost almost nothing

Marantz and Pioneer made some nice ones

They lack the modern surround processing, though

[primal fulcrum]

That's the caveat :/

[stone quartz]

ProLogic II 😭

[topaz cypress]

Second is Yamaha.

[topaz cypress]

Is HDMI what?
I don't understand your question.

HDMI is a High-Definition Media Interface with various bandwidth, audio support, and DRM requirements depending on which version of the standard you're meeting.
HDMI and THD (total harmonic distortion) which is related to audio distortion of signals have little to do with one another as HDMI is a digital interface.

The only way I could see HDMI impacting THD is if you HDMI was dropping bits... In which case, still wouldn't directly impact THD and you have OTHER ISSUES.

[unique wind]

prologic is haram

[warm scarab]

surround can run into bandwidth issues so hdmi might be necessary

[full fossil]

I watched a couple comparisons between the nova pro and maxwell but still don't know which one is overall better

[winter bronze]

greatest bassline ever

[haughty girder]

I dunno

not a fan of this one

Might work for a game soundtrack that's meant to be played on repeat

but for a greatest bassline it doesn't have anything...

Very dull

[winter bronze]

That's just the baseline there's a whole song that goes with it

[fresh saddle]

s

[winter bronze]

"Off the grid" by kanye west

[fresh saddle]

I cant find anything about my speakers on internet

[winter bronze]

picture

[fresh saddle]

lemme get my phone

@winter bronze

[winter bronze]

Toshiba

go figure

[fresh saddle]

My amp is making wind noises again

[fresh saddle]

What does this mean its left my brain

[winter bronze]

i have a toshiba laptop and i couldnt find a manual or anything

[fresh saddle]

Ye

I ha e some toahiba laptops

Ones a win 98

[winter bronze]

damn

[fresh saddle]

Have a toshiba stereo and it magically has a manual

[winter bronze]

it must be a knockoff

[fresh saddle]

Its old

[winter bronze]

jk but whats the problem with it fr

[fresh saddle]

With what

[winter bronze]

is it with the speaker or the amp

[fresh saddle]

Well the speakers are fine

[winter bronze]

oh is that the amp

[fresh saddle]

I was just wondering bout my speakers

Specs wise

[winter bronze]

oh

you tryin to sell it or just curious

[fresh saddle]

Curious

[haughty girder]

it... sounds like any other bassline that goes with trap music

[fresh saddle]

The amp makes wind noises every now and then

[winter bronze]

[winter bronze]

try switching the xlr cable or if you are using a 1/4 cable then switch to xlr

[fresh saddle]

Mb whats xlr

I switched from aux 1 to aux 2 and it seemed to less

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/756176420841062451/1059903216646631614/catsitting.gif

[winter bronze]

aux is 1/8 inch

[fresh saddle]

I think its cause the lsptop is set to headphones

[fresh saddle]

Metric?

[haughty girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHazUM0DBi4&list=RDQM9NU-O7KZSNw&start_radio=1

first result

[haughty girder]

Same thing over and over again

[winter bronze]

3 and 4 are 1/8

5 is xlr

[winter bronze]

i dont like trap im more into drain gang

[haughty girder]

Trap is a genre

[winter bronze]

ik

drain gang is a genre

[haughty girder]

which hinges upon a certain combination of electronic percussion and bass

[fresh saddle]

Its aux to read im usin

[winter bronze]

???\

[winter bronze]

listen to Crest and youll see what i mean

its kind of its own subgenre of cloud rap

[haughty girder]

not on spotify?

guess not

[winter bronze]

the album Crest by Bladee and Ecco2k

they arnt a band its a collective

they all make music seperately but they collab a lot

[haughty girder]

OH wow it's just 70s pop all over again

guess it's trendy

but I'd argue it's synthpop

[winter bronze]

kinda synthpop/hyperpop

[haughty girder]

Not really new

[winter bronze]

they mostly make rap but crest is very different

would reccomend Icedancer by Bladee and E by Ecco2k

and Starz by Yung lean but thats kinda trap influenced

[haughty girder]

not a fan

actually I'd rather sit in silence

[winter bronze]

what music do you like

i would like to hear what you percive as better than bladee

[haughty girder]

well if you were to ask the greatest bassline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msviAyPk9Mk

not the greatest

but an inspiration as I play bass

[winter bronze]

be nice 2 me bassline better probably

[haughty girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9LezLlD8s

[lean grove]

Obviously you guys have never heard of Wesley Willis

Otherwise you'd know for sure who the greatest musician of our time is

[haughty girder]

I have, but a little before my time

[winter bronze]

listen to ready and.....willing by viper

specifically the song "You gone die"

[haughty girder]

but I do respect musicians who make music using acoustic instruments

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/KwYGI8OjXvo

[winter bronze]

its a great cloud rap banger

[winter bronze]

do you like ed sheeran's new album

[haughty girder]

I don't listen to him

[winter bronze]

its already an indie classic

[lean grove]

Why not

[haughty girder]

I just... don't?

[winter bronze]

fr listen to autumn variations by ed sheeran

i think you would enjoy it

[haughty girder]

if you're gonna suggest English music: https://open.spotify.com/track/69uxyAqqPIsUyTO8txoP2M?si=27f3319dcae842c2

I want something memorable

[winter bronze]

im not really into coldpaly

*coldplay

[haughty girder]

I'm not into most artists

just certain songs

[winter bronze]

W

[haughty girder]

pick and choose what I like

[winter bronze]

could not be me but i respect

[haughty girder]

I mainly listen to Kpop/rock, Jpop/rock, and only a little English pop

[winter bronze]

why dont you like Crest tho

lots of Kpop influence

[haughty girder]

give me a link and I'll take a listen

The kpop I listen to:https://open.spotify.com/track/3nxnRpe2H9hWOhlJmeSEcE?si=c349af3396ee4617

[winter bronze]

https://open.spotify.com/album/3j75sKW2Lw9gUEhjNzPKn4?si=sYtwTIyzTqCiaO5QfpitXQ

[haughty girder]

Which song

[winter bronze]

faust

[haughty girder]

autotune is so bad on this wtf

Vocals have absolutely no timbre on it

it might as well be a vocaloid

[winter bronze]

try 5 star crest

[haughty girder]

same comment

[winter bronze]

also im not trippin anthony fantano gave it an 8

[haughty girder]

Who's that

[winter bronze]

he reviews music

[haughty girder]

yikes

Me personally, the song doesn't do anything unique

The vocals don't really add much to the song since it's not really vocals

[winter bronze]

you are very close minded

[haughty girder]

5 star crest I can sort of hear what they're going for, but it reminds me of geometry dash type music

[winter bronze]

just cause someone isnt hitting the perfect note while yelling as loud as possible doesnt mean its garbage

[haughty girder]

but you're using a mic

with gain

you don't need to be yelling

pitch correction and autotune are two VERY different things

[winter bronze]

ik

[haughty girder]

the song I sent? that's pitch correction. It shouldn't affect vocal timbre much at all, yet it ensures the vocals are in tune

[winter bronze]

no it doesnt

[haughty girder]

You shouldn't be hearing the vocals changing pitches instantly, like a robot

if you do, that's autotune

[winter bronze]

pitch correction is wayyy to hard to work with in a studio

[haughty girder]

you're no longer relying on yourself to hit a pitch close to the right key

no it isn't

Most vocal oriented songs use it

[fresh saddle]

Whats pitch correction

[haughty girder]

but it requires the singer to be at LEAST close to the proper pitch

[winter bronze]

autotune helps people who aren't adelle level vocalists

[winter bronze]

shutting out all songs with autotune is a pretty lame move

[haughty girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9LezLlD8s
here's this again.

[winter bronze]

it is a really precise way of making your voice sound better

[fresh saddle]

Ohhh i grt it neigw

[winter bronze]

its cleaner then autotune

cause its just changing how high pitched it is

not using ai to change the notes

[haughty girder]

Basically most people don't have the practice to hit the pitch perfectly consistently, pitch correction is a very subtle nudge to push the vocals into the right pitch. It shouldn't affect vocal timbre much at all

[winter bronze]

autotune has some cool applications

like on STARGAZING by Travis

also some pretty bad ones like GHOSTTOWN by Yung Lean

[haughty girder]

Autotune requires a user to set a key, a processor will automatically bend the vocals to match the nearest note in key. Afterwards, it can also be adjusted if the vocals are way off as nowadays, it's almost completely digital

[winter bronze]

it makes it easy for people to make great music

songs like Oh My Dis Side and Heartless absolutely demolish all pop music

[haughty girder]

I don't. But songs that clearly are going for a melodical vocal should at least have a singer who is remotely competent at getting close to the pitch, rather than relying on autotune

you can tell how hard a vocal pitch is bent

[winter bronze]

when I listen to music i base my thoughts on how good the song is, not how good of a vocalist they are

[haughty girder]

Is vocals not part of the song

[winter bronze]

yeah

[haughty girder]

in fact in many cases, the vocals is the crown of the song

In my experience with mixing and mastering audio for the past few years, there's almost never been a case where the vocals support the instrumental

[winter bronze]

but artists like Yung Lean can bend that preset and make some amazing stuff

[haughty girder]

Now I'm no vocalist, if I had to sing I'd hope I have some sort of pitch correction. But I've practiced enough that am confident to hit a note close enough that most people won't be able to tell if it's off

[winter bronze]

if you are an audio worker and you cant make a beat that sounds better than the vocals then you better be working for micheal jackson bc thats just sad

as a producer myself

[haughty girder]

A beat by itself doesn't mean anything

[winter bronze]

HELL NO

[haughty girder]

Drum and bass are the foundation of any song

One of the most popular trends in actual pop music ie. Antidrops just makes that ever more clear

[winter bronze]

a beat just means everything but the vocals

[haughty girder]

no.

A melody is not a beat

a melody normally follows the beat in some way or another

thus the beat is the foundation of music

The amazing thing about the bass (instrument) is that it can create its own percussion and be the backbone of a song on its own

tho you generally won't hear this

[winter bronze]

all i heard was ☝️ 🤓 "..............Beat..................."

[haughty girder]

I understand that music theory (it's not even theory either) can be a little too advanced for you but that's ok

I dont expect most people to understand why they like a song

other than "I like it because I like it"

[winter bronze]

im a producer and i dont care about all that

[haughty girder]

Do you play piano?

[winter bronze]

i make music for people who are listening not for audio analysts

[winter bronze]

kinda

i dont really but i have two keyboards at my desk

[haughty girder]

ok so you don't

This is the issue.

[winter bronze]

a Casitone MT-65 and an MPK mini

the MT-65 is great for sampling

[haughty girder]

so you can't play an acoustic piano

[winter bronze]

i can

[haughty girder]

What can you play

Fur Elise? At least?

[winter bronze]

music

[winter bronze]

i can play "in da club"

[haughty girder]

ok so you can't.

You don't know an ounce of music theory

[winter bronze]

in da club is better than fur elise

ngl

[haughty girder]

Except Fur Elise is a single instrument, a classic, and creates thought and emotion without words

That's why even tho it's actually a relatively easy song to play, it's one that almost every pianist will learn at one point or another

Not every song needs an bassline made by an electronic kick drum

[lean grove]

Idk nex I think you're getting baited

[haughty girder]

lul

I like a good bait

[lean grove]

Like this entire convo for the last hour has been fruitless

[haughty girder]

one could call me the master of baits

[lean grove]

I can't believe nobody's ever made that joke before. Quick, write it down

[haughty girder]

but in all seriousness I just like music and the science behind in

Also imagine getting muted

lmao

C'mon I have pink guy in my pfp

what's left to explain

[lean grove]

Do people still know who pink guy is

[haughty girder]

wait this is actually hilarious

[haughty girder]

It can't be that long ago right

WYSI

Wait I wonder will this get censored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28

k guess not

[lean grove]

I feel like half the people on discord these days are bordering TOS violations so "not that long ago" was half a lifetime ago for some

[haughty girder]

ur right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-sH53vXP2A
and this is older than some people in this server

(I grew up on that)

[lean grove]

simpler times

[unborn gale]

anyone else miss slamacow animations

[lean grove]

who

[unborn gale]

made amazing looking minecraft animations

similar to what's found in "Fallen Kingdom"

[lean grove]

is she on tiktok

[unborn gale]

what

[lean grove]

what

[haughty girder]

I haven't heard that name since 2014 hahaha

Completely forgot who

[craggy pollen]

hey guys, I'm pretty new to the audio space, I have some pretty small but good speakers (2x 30w) and a cheap amp, how do I upgrade from this, do I get a better receiver so I can start building towards surround, or do I get a subwoofer before more speakers?

[lean grove]

Speakers will have the biggest difference in terms of quality. If you love your speakers, then a subwoofer would improve them by like, 10% ish. Surround is only worth it if you can take advantage of it with media that can actually use it