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half fog
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harman trained listener

silent haven
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years of watching anime has led him to this point

inland bobcat
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found the perfect cable to pair with a mic I just ordered

unique wind
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heck ya

errant wharf
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what are some reputable shops for headphones in the US aside from amazon?

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sweetwater?

inland bobcat
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sweetwater

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bh

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crutchfield probably

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newegg

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sweetwater gives you candy so it's the #1 choice

errant wharf
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are the demo products from sweetwater generally safe?

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this listing says like new so i would assume safe

gritty blade
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hey! i need some recommendations for microphones for a gaming youtuber.. price does not matter, it can be expensive

i know the sm7b is very popular, but is there a better option? i don't want to just get it for the fact that its popular. also i think USB would be simpler.

i looked into the mv7 but to my ears the sm7b sounds more detailed in highs and more presence overall...

candid cosmos
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Good and usb is - difficult.

gritty blade
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haha okay then, something that doesnt require an insane amount of power then?

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so i could just run straight off a resonable audio interface

candid cosmos
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F. E. A sm7b -

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Many options there...

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I dont like Dynamic mics anyways so i am not a great Person to help, but i just wanted to point that one out.

warm scarab
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you can just get an mpm1000u and be done with it

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it wont be as good as xlr but its not a difference that matters for a youtuber

gritty blade
warm scarab
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you are youtubing man

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it doesn't matter

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you have trash bitrate and a permanent lowpass filter at 16khz

gritty blade
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LOL

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ok

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its for an established youtuber, he has enough money to get whatever.. he'd rather just get endgame mic now than ever have to upgrade again

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but if you think thats good enough šŸ‘

warm scarab
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different mics are just convenient for audio engineers to have to tamper less with the audio in editing

cold token
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Hey @warm scarab Sorry to disturb you for the 12th time but I have a question.

Does your nominal impedance for the your AMP and your set of headphones be the same? Or should one be the a greater value?

warm scarab
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no

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those are fairly unrelated

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the impedance of the amp is the output impedance 90%

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and you want that to be lower than the impedance of the headphones

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if you are buying a headphone amplifier it would be difficult to find a decent amp that has a troublesome amounts of output impedance

cold token
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Oh okay

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Cuz I'm looking to get maybe the 560s, 600 or 660s and pair it with a Loxjie D30

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and I was doing some research myself so I can make an informed and good decision

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Any thoughts on my pairing? Am I in the right direction or am I wasting my money and being dumb with my current choices?

buoyant vale
cold token
buoyant vale
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The 660 is generally considered the worst 6x0

cold token
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i might as well just get the 560s then

errant wharf
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I think i have settled on getting the tygr 300r. Seems to be one of the best options for that price point for games

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especially because i can get them for $30 off

warm scarab
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its a nice option

weak rapids
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560s is amazing honestly

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Im curious on the 650 tho

errant wharf
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I looked at those too but ive heard people day they aren't the most comfortable with glasses

cold token
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has anyone tried out the Loxjie A30 or D30 by any chance?

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I just want someone to tell me about their experience with the DAC/AMP combo before actually getting it

warm scarab
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I tried topping d30

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bad

cold token
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okay

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perfect

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thanks

warm scarab
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loxjie I don't know

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but I don't have high expectations of it either

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might even be worse than the d30

cold token
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alright then i might just ignore that

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Thinking of getting the JDS Atom Amp and Dac in that case

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what do u think about that?

warm scarab
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bad

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get a schiit stack or a zen one

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actually modi 3+ is also bad you are better off saving your money and just buying a magni 3+

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apple dongle will suffice as a dac

cold token
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could u link me to it?

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or is it just two zen dacs?

warm scarab
full cape
frail gyro
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my mic on my gaming headset just broke after using it for 3 years, this $60 headset served me well, any recommendations for replacements?

warm scarab
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budget?

frail gyro
# warm scarab budget?

$200 but i don’t really WANNA spend that much, i was just gonna get the wireless corsair virtuoso or whatever it’s called for $200 but i don’t really feel like spending that much and ik corsair so it’s probably mediocre quality

warm scarab
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pc38x

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if you are set on wireless, cloud 2 or arctis nova 7

frail gyro
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i’ll probably get the pc38x, idk about wired though, i’ve never really used wired headphones for like 5+ years

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idk how i feel about it being aux though i kinda was looking for USB cause i use my Line Out for my sound bar

unborn gale
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wired > wireless, and USB is typically reserved for cheap or bad headphones

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and I've used the PC37X, which is a small step down from the PC38X and it's pretty good for what it is

warm scarab
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don't look for a usb headset

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it is a bad idea

errant wharf
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usb audio quality is not as good im assuming?

warm scarab
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they have a sound card in them

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which has a dac/amp of questionable quality

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and it uses drivers which just gives it the possibility of software failure

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it is something fragile and bad sounding, you don't want it

fallen lava
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which one

lean grove
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@fallen lava how much do you know about designing a subwoofer

lean grove
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was your plan to buy one of these and throw it in a box?

fallen lava
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yup

lean grove
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okay.

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subs dont work like that

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the box needs to be a certain size if you want them to work

fallen lava
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alr

lean grove
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so you need to buy the sub with the idea of how much space it needs to take up

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like its not one is better

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its one is better for high volumes at 50hz while taking up this amount of space

frail gyro
warm scarab
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9$

frail gyro
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that’s not that bad

warm scarab
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get a cx dongle if you don't have usb c ports

frail gyro
warm scarab
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that's fine then

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cx dongle is also a bit more durable

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its like 15$

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if you want that

frail gyro
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also is the Sennheiser one much better than the standard one? it’s about $30 difference

warm scarab
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both are sennheiser

frail gyro
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oh ok

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i assume one is just sennheiser branded then

warm scarab
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pretty sure its just different colored

frail gyro
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also how does open back sound canceling work? is it noticeably worse than non open back?

warm scarab
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yes

silent haven
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awful mix

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can hear drums offbeat and random noise on the far right

lean grove
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what speakers are you using

silent haven
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headphones

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looks like it was made with speakers

lean grove
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its less jarring on speakers. i think its just a poorly done reverb

silent haven
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yeah

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unlistenable with any decent headphone

reef sage
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yo guys
can u recommend me some headsets where the mic has decent noise supression

meager ridge
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I just bought this headset https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082M4L5K6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 and in the iCUE program I cannot find the equalizer settings. Are wireless virtuoso's with USB not compatible to have eq or smth?

silent haven
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virtuoso sounds like ass

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and is the most unfortable shit

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i tried the newest one that is like 300+

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and it was horrible

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anyting "gaming" advertised wont be good

unborn gale
silent haven
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better off getting beyerdynamics and some cheap mic

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usb mic

half fog
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virtuoso should just be an automatic return

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worst frequency response ever for something that expensive

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gigantic hump in the mid bass right at 200hz just for that special taco bell restroom bass feel

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gigantic chasm right after that at 400hz to start ruining vocals

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and ultra veiled treble

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trying to EQ that is like trying to polish a turd

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corsair at it yet again with another criminally bad product

silent haven
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because gamers dont know what good sound is and no one complains about it

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as long as it has a ton of RGB and a built in mic they will buy it

half fog
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for some reason its common for gaming headphones to have a gigantic dip somewhere in their FR where it just deletes one area

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10db attenuation deadspot

silent haven
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and severely bass boosted for explosions or whatever "immersion"

half fog
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just buy a 10 dollar USB lapel mic and strap it to the side of any half decent headphone or a stupid wireless modmic if you really want it

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will beat basically any shitty gamer advertised pair

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and people here complaining about some of the stuff from beyer and sennheisers lineup almost anything in their is better than the POS models that corsair and the other gaming brands make

silent haven
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blows it out of the water too in terms of value and price

half fog
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another shining example of GAMER headphones is hyperX

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cloud II FR

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how does that even happen

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20db drop at 4khz

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i guess thats just what happens when you have shittily designed closed backs with no regard for the internal reflections and resonances

silent haven
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insult to injury is they rebrand it every year too

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as some newer model with newer RGB but it sounds just as bad

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taking advantage of the gullible consumers

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not to mention every streamer and pro player paid off to wear their products so people automatically think its good

haughty girder
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it looks worse on the compensated graph because the rtings curve is stupid

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It's based on the takstar pro 80 which is actually somewhat respected for cheap closed backs

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but if you're gonna gatekeep audio you might as well do it properly by giving a proper recommendation

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saying it's bad doesn't help

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the only other wired options for wired headsets are the mh751...

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which is also another takstar model...

half fog
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not sure how its gatekeeping saying people shouldnt waste money on corsairs 200-300 dollar steaming piles and to instead just get any low-mid range from a reputable brand with a separate mic

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actually costs less money

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only reason i didnt list a specific recommendation is because of how much the prices fluctuate in the <300 dollar price range and that its a closed back

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and the argument can be made that closed back is worse for gaming unless you are in a very loud environment

haughty girder
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of course. If someone is looking to pay that much money for a headset from corsair of all people by all means give them a better recommendation

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but the HyperX cloud ii isn't that

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cloud ii is a 100 dollar headset that can be found for even less

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also what counts as low-midrage for you?

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cause just about all closed backs suck until the k361

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HyperX just happens to suck less

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and no, sub 300 dollar space prices don't fluctuate like you claim they do

silent haven
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seems like you already made your decision about the corsairs

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why even ask here if you know people will shart on them for being notoriously bad

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would rather get a dt770 closed back over some stealing pile of shit corsair with a CANYON dip in the frequency

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you can fix a peak but not a massive dip

half fog
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yeah even if the beyers have higher treble you can just tone it down with an EQ on the other hand if you have a massive deadzone from the shitty tuning its not like most headphones can handle a massive +10db or more increase

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start to get audible distortion at higher listening volumes and that is even if you have enough amplification to achieve it comfortably

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especially if its in the sub bass response with a 15db rolloff

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try putting a heavy bass shelf on a cheap dynamic and see what happens

silent haven
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not doable

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ive owned the newest virtuoso and returned it the next day

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one of the worse experiences ive had

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with headphones

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especially ones pushing 300 dollars

half fog
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or just something like a he 400se for open back at that price point would completely blow away every "gaming" headphone

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110 on amazon

silent haven
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ive tried that one

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comparable to the sundara

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cant be beat for 100 bucks

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would much rather prefer planar headphones if given the choice

candid cosmos
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What were the cheap planarmagnetic iems again?

nova wagon
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dioko?

candid cosmos
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Im kinda very interested in trying them Hehe

Wanna See if i can find something better than my zs10 pro x

candid cosmos
night pelican
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So a few months ago I bought some HS80s from Corsair, been using em daily, regular use, charge em, use them wireless til the battery says needs charge, don’t charge em to full, repeat, just really regular use, today I pick em up, notice they were not charging, then I pick them up and they smell burnt, I take the usb c out and it comes out black, I’ve not done anything wrong to them, only been charging em through my PC with the USB C so they get paired nicely and turn into wired mode kinda wanna cry cuz they’re the only ones I have and if I wanna buy another pair they won’t come for a while and all that does anyone know what could’ve been the problem??? I updated my BIOS just last week and idk I don’t know how that could’ve cause such a terrible overcurrent that they’d be fried or if it was something else completely, or if I was just extremely unlucky stupidwhinybitch

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Iunno if this is the right channel for this or something >>

silent haven
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corsair moment

lethal bloom
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in need of a new headset for gaming i did want a wireless but people in this chat have kinda put me off lol how are the dt990 for gaming ?

wheat moss
lethal bloom
warm scarab
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yes

lethal bloom
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they only come in this colour?

candid cosmos
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770 are closed 880 are bit of a Mix, 990 is open,

I dont like the 990 from the pure Sound, 770 are just closed and not my type, 880 is a good middle ground imo...

lethal bloom
warm scarab
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dt770 isn't at all related to dt880 and 990

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apart from being in the same lineup

candid cosmos
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More open means the Sound feels more outside of the ear - hard to explain...

candid cosmos
warm scarab
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not true

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they are the same headphone but dt880 doesn't have the midbass bump

candid cosmos
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Huh

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Wouldnt call them same headphone...

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Not more than 770 vs rest.

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Simelar, yes.

pulsar zephyr
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What’s the best wireless headphones money can buy for around $550

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There for mobile use

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Not pc

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If that helps

candid cosmos
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God i will get out of here everyone wants wireless

warm scarab
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with minor tuning difference in midbass

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everything else is the exact same

candid cosmos
pulsar zephyr
candid cosmos
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It literally doesnt feel as open as the 990s

pulsar zephyr
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Impractical and shit looks stupid

warm scarab
candid cosmos
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Either way, get wireless if you want

pulsar zephyr
warm scarab
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No

pulsar zephyr
pulsar zephyr
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Genuine question

candid cosmos
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Ye go ahead, if you like it, im just pointing it out

warm scarab
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they aren't as good

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airpod max is a meme

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jbl is a meme

candid cosmos
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Btw please dont get bose or jbl if you want actual Sound.

warm scarab
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bose has qc45 which is alright but it dies fast

candid cosmos
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Airpods is just Apple and way too expensive for the Sound you get.

warm scarab
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n700nc m2 is better in all regard

pulsar zephyr
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Is what I meant

candid cosmos
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Short answer none.

warm scarab
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I don't know or care

river pine
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Whats the best in-ear wireless earphones for a 10 year old, asking bc my mum wants ideas for my sisters bday (pls account for her smaller than adult ears (obviously bc she’s literally 10))

pulsar zephyr
lethal bloom
warm scarab
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why would you buy anything from bestbuy

candid cosmos
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If you buy local you could at most get the least shitty Option

pulsar zephyr
candid cosmos
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Nope.

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People who dont know better do

warm scarab
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if everyone jumps off a cliff will you follow them

pulsar zephyr
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I’m not an audio dork

unborn gale
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Uh no

pulsar zephyr
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Idk about shit like y’all do

unborn gale
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Best Buy is typically overpriced shit

warm scarab
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okay then don't ask advice in the audio chat go ask in a fashion discord

buoyant vale
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Just buy whatever shitters you like the RGB on then

unborn gale
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Most people do not go to best buy to get a good deal

pulsar zephyr
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Corny

pulsar zephyr
warm scarab
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use google

unborn gale
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Tbh online stores

warm scarab
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a good store is whatever store that has what you want

unborn gale
pulsar zephyr
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So I’m asking which one would you recommend

unborn gale
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Since Best Buy or Target may have what you want, but the price is typically higher than elsewhere

unborn gale
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Seriously

candid cosmos
pulsar zephyr
unborn gale
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If you're always buying at one store, you're getting ripped off

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And just lazy honestly

pulsar zephyr
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I don’t

unborn gale
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Then why are you asking

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There is no favorite store

pulsar zephyr
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It’s just only store I know for technology related stuff other than other generic stores like target or Amazon

unborn gale
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I go to wherever is the cheapest

pulsar zephyr
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Which is why I’m asking you

unborn gale
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Exactly, go to Google and see who's selling it

warm scarab
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Would you be satisfied if I said manscaped

pulsar zephyr
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Yes

warm scarab
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they are a good store they just don't sell anything but equipment for shaving your balls

pulsar zephyr
warm scarab
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how ignorant I am

pulsar zephyr
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Have yourself a good day buddy

warm scarab
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thanks

lean grove
warm scarab
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my balls are very toned nils I wont let you have this

lean grove
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Every time you go commando and your balls crash into curbs and planters that's not toning that's bruising

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They should be a dark orange color, not purple and green

warm scarab
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you must have very feminine balls if that is an issue nils

lean grove
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My balls are perfectly fine.

warm scarab
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you sound insecure to me

meager ridge
warm scarab
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hmm yes the mass produced 2$ ali oem doesn't have very good bass

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šŸ—’ļøāœļø

vivid kelp
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Random question, im currently using musicbee and I overall like it, but is there anything similar that supports external song/album tagging

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e.g. stores its metadata externally instead of updating the file when you update the metadata, for example when a song is missing its album info or its inputted shoddily

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I could just copy all the files to a seperate directory and then tag them properly but that consumes 2x the hard disk space

steel escarp
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usually people use Roon to manage metadata

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but its not free

haughty girder
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TVs?

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I mean hell, if you need anything urgently like a mouse

haughty girder
lean grove
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Nexgen coming out of retirement

haughty girder
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nah I'm just waking up because I saw a big shit take

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alright goodnight again

lean grove
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🫔

errant wharf
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I ordered the tygr 300r, what is the likelihood ill need to order an amp? I hear they are fairly easy to drive so probably not super likely?

errant wharf
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Cool, id prefer to not get one yet if i dont have to. Would i even notice any significant difference?

river pine
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Whats the best in-ear wireless earphones for a 10 year old, asking bc my mum wants ideas for my sisters bday (pls account for her smaller than adult ears (obviously bc she’s literally 10))

lean grove
errant wharf
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I'll assume my untrained ears wouldn't notice

lean grove
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I think you'll be fine as-is

errant wharf
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Awesome

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Thanks

inland bobcat
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Microphone

willow root
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me still waiting for the crinacle zero reds to go on sale again

meager ridge
night pelican
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but uh

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slight update

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I left them there for like a day

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plugged a different charger

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and after a bit of wigglying

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they're somehow charging

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and I feel this is dangerous 🄓

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I contacted Corsair through a tweet, they told me to contact their support account through Twitter DMs, so hopefully I'll get an update from em before they spontaneously combust or something!

warm scarab
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its a dirty contact

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clean it up with wd40

silent haven
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Dont use wd40

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Use isopropyl alcohol

candid cosmos
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Or any actual contact spray, wd40 is more of an emergency spray... Really not use this one...

half fog
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time for the corsair to ignite like they deserve

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imagine making a wireless headphone that can actually melt

candid cosmos
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Partly agree.

candid cosmos
half fog
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just dont buy corsair products their only "good" product line are their PSUs which they dont even really make themselves

candid cosmos
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corsair is mostly usable, with the catch of being priced like top range while being lower midrange....

half fog
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all of it is cheap plastic shit that they spam RGB on and their bloated multi GB iCUE software

candid cosmos
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Multi GB icue?

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Ugh no.

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Also i dont even find their psus really great...

Well yes the psus are, the Fans just arent xD

candid cosmos
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Had to change mine in the sf600 platinum...

candid cosmos
half fog
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their keyboards are very bad

candid cosmos
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Same goes for the cases tho

half fog
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would rather have a random 50 dollar offbrand

candid cosmos
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Okay

quiet flame
half fog
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had multiple in a row have switch chattering issues in the same day of unboxing

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return to the store and next one has same issue on other keys

quiet flame
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but some of their cases are ok tier

candid cosmos
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Mine runs since years, apart of being very metallically loud and expensive its much better than the stuff logitech f. E. Offers.

quiet flame
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some rares ones are good

candid cosmos
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Or razer, or roccat.

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Keychron etc wins obv...

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Cause much much much better for the price.

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Or even cheaper and better.

half fog
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i gave up on those shit boards and just got a wooting and keychron is one of the only brands id consider worse for gaming than corsair just because its so slow

quiet flame
half fog
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15ms+ latency

quiet flame
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the price to performance ratio is really bad

candid cosmos
candid cosmos
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Tho, true for most gaming Brands sadly...

quiet flame
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yup

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it's sad you have to dig for hours in reviews just to find decent preripherals

warm scarab
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i will not allow anything corsair makes to be called good

quiet flame
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😩

half fog
warm scarab
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just wd40 bro

half fog
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it leaves a mess

warm scarab
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just get good

quiet flame
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even if

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not that expensive for what they give

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nvmd

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wrong chan for this discussion šŸ‘€

half fog
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if corsair was half the price then it would be fair for the quality and experience they give

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should not be considered for audio

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its like buying a logitech headset

candid cosmos
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Contact spray if you want anything other than Canned air or whatever.

warm scarab
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it removes anything rust

candid cosmos
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It doesnt even so that.

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Its best purpose is making stuff like screws less stuck. Its a penetrating spray, not an oil or anything.

wheat moss
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it's a penetrating lubricant, it does not remove rust

candid cosmos
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It can clean pretty well tho, cause its side effect is that it can flush grease away.

wheat moss
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grease, yes. rust, no

warm scarab
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wd40 absolutely removes rust

candid cosmos
warm scarab
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are you insane

candid cosmos
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It doesnt at all.

warm scarab
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have you ever used wd40

wheat moss
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it may help with scrubbing rust off of a surface, but it does not remove rust

candid cosmos
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Yes.

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This.

wheat moss
warm scarab
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yes

candid cosmos
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Sure you are not talking about anthing wd40 specialist?

warm scarab
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literally technicians that came to our house for pipe maintenance any anything tell us to spray the rust with wd40

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same with locksmiths that maintained our old depot locks

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you know someone is talking about shit they don't know when several professionals literally advise the direct opposite of what you are saying

candid cosmos
candid cosmos
silent haven
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Its an anti corrosive

warm scarab
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wow

silent haven
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You dont use wd40 on electrical connectors on cars

warm scarab
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almost like if you had a double digit iq you could figure out you were wrong after eight seconds of googling

candid cosmos
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Cause its a water displacer.

silent haven
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Better off using an electrical parts cleaner spray

warm scarab
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I don't disagree

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just clean it afterwards if you use wd40

candid cosmos
silent haven
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If its not broken dont fix it

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If its charging who cares

candid cosmos
warm scarab
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there you go

candid cosmos
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Surface rust.

warm scarab
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yes and?

candid cosmos
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Which you can get away with basically everything.

warm scarab
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what are you trying to argue here lmao

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"oh bro that's only surface rust"

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moving goalposts real fast are we

candid cosmos
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It still doesnt dissolve rust.

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Or makes a good contact cleaner.

warm scarab
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it isn't rust when its on the surface?

candid cosmos
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Its a penetrating Fluid.

warm scarab
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andd?

candid cosmos
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Its for making stuck stuff move once. (temporarely)

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Nothing else.

warm scarab
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Yeah you are wrong

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thanks

candid cosmos
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You didnt prove you point once.

silent haven
#

I wouldnt risk it

warm scarab
#

just watch the video

candid cosmos
#

You prove the oppisite with the wd40 specialist rust remover lol

#

This removes rust.

silent haven
#

Wd40 conducts electricity and can eat away at the lacquer on circuit boards

candid cosmos
#

Wd40 does not.

warm scarab
#

there are a thousand video examples of standard wd40 removing rust

silent haven
#

You dont need penetrating fluid on a connector

warm scarab
#

yeah this is why you clean it afterwards

candid cosmos
#

Just use concact cleaner.

#

The way you put it you might as well use sunflower oil.

#

Which would even be better lol

silent haven
#

Which is why wd40 is used fir seized things not as a parts cleaner

warm scarab
#

no you might not

silent haven
#

You want something that will evaporate so you dont have to dump shit inside the headphone 2 times making a mess

warm scarab
candid cosmos
#

Yes.

warm scarab
#

and sunflower oil

candid cosmos
#

You dont understand the purpose of wd40 at all.

#

Its a penetrating spray, nothing more.

silent haven
#

I use mass airflow sensor cleaner

warm scarab
#

which cleans rust

candid cosmos
#

I use seal remover for everything

silent haven
#

brake clean works sometimes too

candid cosmos
silent haven
#

Doesnt matter if it cleans rust if it damages everything else as a byproduct

#

And requires further cleanup

#

Lots of things clean rust but arent used because of corrosive properties

candid cosmos
#

If you need anthing to make seized contacts work, use contact cleaner, if its Light use Canned air, Story solved.

warm scarab
#

just use wd40 contact cleaner

#

easy

candid cosmos
#

Wd40 specialist.

silent haven
#

Just dont listen to this clown

candid cosmos
#

Which you can use.

silent haven
#

Unless you want corrosive shit penetrating into every seal and crevice of the circuit board

candid cosmos
#

Wd40 with nothing more in the name is just simply a penetrating spray for nothing other than making stuck stuff move temporarely.

warm scarab
#

yeah and?

candid cosmos
candid cosmos
warm scarab
#

would

candid cosmos
#

Where youd use concact cleaner at most, or wd40 specialist branded one if you really want to.

warm scarab
#

okay and?

candid cosmos
#

Nothing more

#

Mr wd40 is everything

warm scarab
#

I think you have a complex against wd40

candid cosmos
#

I use it to flush away grease

#

And to make stuck screws move, aka the purpose of it.

warm scarab
#

I use it to clean myself

candid cosmos
#

I hope

real wasp
#

Is the technics SL-Q200 a good entry record player for 65€?

turbid nexus
#

Corsair virtuoso vs razer barracuda x?

unborn gale
#

@turbid nexus what's your budget? Because I'm pretty sure both are trash

river pine
#

Whats the best in-ear wireless earphones for a 10 year old, asking bc my mum wants ideas for my sisters bday (pls account for her smaller than adult ears (obviously bc she’s literally 10))

unborn gale
# turbid nexus 100€

Must have a mic? Or can you buy the mic separately? Or maybe extend your budget so you can get the PC37X?

#

@river pine nobody can help you without a budget. Because no budget, Airpods Pro

river pine
turbid nexus
unborn gale
river pine
unborn gale
unborn gale
#

Not 100% sure if they're at that price tho. Perhaps refurbished?

#

Not exactly sure about budget options either

river pine
turbid nexus
unborn gale
#

Where are you looking

river pine
unborn gale
#

Not you, theonelt83

turbid nexus
#

In lithuania main brands are razer, steelseries and corsair

unborn gale
river pine
turbid nexus
#

Even hyperx is hard to find

unborn gale
turbid nexus
#

There isnt amazon nor ebay in lithuania šŸ™ƒ

river pine
unborn gale
#

At least more comfortable since they use a suspension strap

turbid nexus
unborn gale
turbid nexus
#

I love razer base sound, and corsair microphone

unborn gale
#

Lots of bass is there to cover how bad it sounds

warm scarab
unborn gale
#

And is not a positive

warm scarab
#

I think the lowest I have seen in this server so far

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not even trying to be funny

unborn gale
warm scarab
#

that wasn't a bar

unborn gale
#

That's lower

#

Lol

warm scarab
#

that was should we get it sort of thing

turbid nexus
#

I have now hyperx revolver

#

Dont want hyperx anymore

warm scarab
#

you aren't getting better than hyperx sub 100

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unless its 2nd hand

turbid nexus
warm scarab
#

how old is that headset

turbid nexus
#

2 years of use and i could say I take care of then

warm scarab
#

christ

turbid nexus
#

Had ryzen dont remember model

#

Had for almost 5 years

warm scarab
#

ryzen is a cpu lineup?

turbid nexus
#

Razer* šŸ˜‚

unborn gale
#

Never heard of that website before

river pine
unborn gale
#

Ebay?

static acorn
#

It’s a legit product tho

river pine
static acorn
#

Maybe not the site but model is fine

#

I owned it for a while, till I lost it in the cinema

unborn gale
#

Got mine for $60 refurbished

river pine
static acorn
river pine
warm scarab
#

cloud 2 if you want 1st hand

river pine
#

But I’d say just whatever the best is that u can get for like Ā£100

warm scarab
#

you are not getting better for 100€

#

except akg k361

#

which isn't a headset

static acorn
river pine
#

She already has AirPods Max like me

#

But she wants in ear ones

static acorn
#

.

unborn gale
#

Wtf

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My man

#

Why

river pine
#

Wdym why

unborn gale
#

She sounds real spoiled

static acorn
#

Welp apple products are typically a scam for the average Joe

#

Especially audio products and their cables for anything

river pine
#

We both are, wealthy family, but I’m not sure my parents r willing to spend another shit ton on AirPods Pro for my sister since she’s so young and she will actually be taking to school and shit

unborn gale
#

Then get something from Sony

static acorn
#

in terms of the former they’re great at/improving on everything but reproducing audio

unborn gale
river pine
unborn gale
#

But yeah, I personally don't know what would be worth it at your budget

static acorn
unborn gale
#

Not that into TWS earbuds

river pine
static acorn
river pine
#

Bro why did discord double send it

#

It keeps doing that

static acorn
#

._.

river pine
static acorn
river pine
static acorn
#

Personally I think an attached cable would make it harder to lose

river pine
#

I think her friends would make fun of her

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She already has rly shitty, bitchy, friends

static acorn
#

Well I’m not suggesting dollar store overstock sale stuff

unborn gale
#

Those don't sound like friends...

static acorn
#

I was thinking budget IEMs, probably worth more than their retail price

lean grove
river pine
river pine
# lean grove Take a look at the moondrop space travel.
#

These?

lean grove
#

Yes

river pine
#

Well those r well under budget

#

Feels like

#

Ur losing out on something

#

Why r they so cheap

half fog
#

more expensive does not mean better

#

i mean look at corsairs dogshit that they charge 200-300 for

river pine
#

Well like, for earbuds, sound quality usually costs more

half fog
#

there are incredibly bad earbuds/iems that cost alot more than really good ones

#

would only compare prices within a brand if you think you are "missing out" by spending less and even then its not a direct indicator of quality

unborn gale
#

Brand tax is a very major thing in stuff like Apple stuff

warm scarab
#

that sort of thing early on in life really tampers with a person

river pine
#

I’m not her parents

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My parents r aware of it tho

warm scarab
#

you are her brother no?

lean grove
# river pine Why r they so cheap

The real question is why are truly wireless so expensive?

If you look at the overall market, truly wireless are extremely cheap to manufacture. You can get pallets of 100 waterproof Bluetooth 5.2 noise cancelling tws earbuds with your brand customized on them for ~$5 a unit on Ali express. They probably don't sound good, but the fact that all that underlying technology is there means that's the easy part.

The hard part is making them sound good and moondrop has that part down pretty well.

#

Every company seems to have their own truly wireless and they pretty much all have the same feature set.

river pine
warm scarab
#

that is a good reason for you to be doing something right?

cosmic swallow
#

how would it be possible to lower certain frequencies in one earphone of a set of cans?

river pine
cosmic swallow
#

it appears one of my ears is more sensitive

warm scarab
#

tell them they are not good people to her in a polite way

river pine
warm scarab
#

and for her to not be stressed by what they say

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even to perhaps stop hanging around with them

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depending on severity

lean grove
#

Everyone take a picture. Klaus made a good point.

river pine
warm scarab
#

Well phrase it in a good way

#

At the very worst you would have tried and she would have an idea of how others see her relationship to her friends

unique wind
#

bro just wanted earbud recommendations

warm scarab
#

even if she reacts adversely in due time might come to the realization now that you have given her an idea

errant wharf
#

if i need a trs extension cable, is there anything i should look for or are they generally all the same as long as i dont go too cheap?

#

3.5 mm

serene surge
lean grove
cosmic swallow
#

still wondering what software might i use to modify sound frequency levels in certain ears

#

or adjust audio balance in macos

#

the volume of voices are higher in one ear than the other, this issue has persisted across multiple pairs of headphones

warm scarab
#

equalizer apo

#

but sounds like one of your ears is clogged or damaged

cosmic swallow
#

damaged probably

half fog
#

that or whatever device is being used to output has severe channel imbalance

#

most common cause is a shitty volume control pot on a headphone amp especially near the lower limit of it

#

to be sure its your ears just flip your headphones around

warm scarab
#

not a good idea

#

not every headphone will sit right on your head in reverse

#

it will cause even more imbalance

half fog
#

should not sit that poorly unless it has angled earpads

#

it is very irritating though that stereo EQs and decent ones are not that common besides equalizerapo

#

I have a fairly nasty 1.8khz resonance in one ear but not the other

#

i dont think anyone has 100% balanced hearing though but natural variation is not this severe

warm scarab
#

the earcups

#

so what you said highly depends on the headphones

steel escarp
#

@warm scarab

#

I found new chifi that we need to shill someone into buying

#

goldensound would take it over arya and its only 1k

unique wind
#

no

warm scarab
#

I have known about nan before

#

they are also the guys who allegedly had the he6 driver schematics for some reason and sold their version of the unit in china

#

but couldn't overseas due to copyright

unique wind
#

$1000 open back circle shaped planar with hifiman-esque tuning

#

no way in hell would i ever buy that

#

it's basically old sundara frequency response but with full bass extension

warm scarab
#

it copied he6 almost perfectly in frequency response and even in distortion so I was very confident they are the actual he6 drivers

unique wind
#

that must be a diff headphone youre talking about

#

the nan-7 measurements just look like sundara before its pad update

#

but with linear bass instead of falloff

warm scarab
#

its the same guys

#

it was the nan 6 or something i think

steel escarp
#

it depends on the pads

warm scarab
#

anyhow these guys have he6 drivers in one of their cans

unique wind
#

sundara but with bass extension

warm scarab
#

and you can't get them anywhere but from china

steel escarp
#

there is the nan-6

unique wind
#

isnt he6 comically hard to drive

warm scarab
#

it just scales a lot like susvara

steel escarp
unique wind
#

i thought it just straight up required a lot of power

warm scarab
#

if its just getting it loud you can do it without much investment

warm scarab
unique wind
warm scarab
#

its literally the same graph

steel escarp
#

yikers

warm scarab
#

that graph is fucked im confident

steel escarp
#

nan-7 supposedly is 14 ohm 100db

warm scarab
#

he6 graphs don't look like that

unique wind
#

it's insane that he6 is like 10x harder to power from a math standpoint than akg k371 is while having like 12db less bass

warm scarab
#

it doesn't have the high dip

unique wind
#

oratory he6 graph

#

shark fin ass treble shape

#

sibilant for your pleasureTM

half fog
# cosmic swallow still wondering what software might i use to modify sound frequency levels in ce...
#

seems weird though

lean grove
#

Do I want a nan 7

unique wind
#

do you want sundara but with linear bass extension

#

but for $1000

half fog
#

not sure how someone could have a gigantic delay in perceived hearing in one ear

#

brain does really weird things with stereo imaging

lean grove
warm scarab
unique wind
warm scarab
#

they even got the dip perfectly

unique wind
#

if you put new sundara pads on the nan7 the same thing happens

warm scarab
#

its definitely an incredibly similar driver if not the same

half fog
#

i wonder if that means it will have the same failure rate as sundaras

steel escarp
#

susvara stages wider

unique wind
half fog
#

kind of odd how sundara seemed to have the most driver imbalance/failure reviews out of hifimans lineup that ive noticed

#

and the only hifiman ive experienced it on so far

warm scarab
#

soundstage correlating to frequency response doesn't mean it isn't affected by other measurements

half fog
#

one side gets quieter over time and then pushing on the side grille made it louder again

#

probably shit solder job or something

steel escarp
#

I put like a -4db high shelf filter on my he1000v2 stealth and it does not change stage

warm scarab
unique wind
#

i dont have that issue but i do have an issue

steel escarp
#

that you are poor?

warm scarab
#

pretty sure he6 and xs are far more prone to dying

half fog
#

weird

unique wind
half fog
#

when sundara first came out atleast i saw alot of complaints in reviews

steel escarp
#

I seen a reddit post of a guy who had like 4 he1000se that broke in a row

#

driver failure

warm scarab
half fog
#

when it first hit amazon it was a low review average

steel escarp
#

why?

warm scarab
#

like what michael said isn't entirely right but neither is what you said

steel escarp
unique wind
#

some of the more popular audio reviewers are starting to post respectable takes

warm scarab
warm scarab
#

ngl

steel escarp
#

true

#

resolve opinion is wack

half fog
#

well you perceive the location of sound from two different things one is from the difference in loudness in each ear and then the other is the delay which is very small

lean grove
# unique wind

That's probably why Dan Clark's sound so congested. All that extra padding and damping closing the headphone off

half fog
#

you can shift the soundstage by adding a delay in microseconds scale from one channel to the other

warm scarab
#

hifiman injects the air with chemicals

lean grove
#

Also why AKG k1k stages so well. Literally as open as it gets.

steel escarp
#

I do a little EQ

#

to get closer tho that 6xx sound

half fog
#

for me it seems to correlate with how open the headphones are to the environment with how good the soundstage is

warm scarab
#

you will never be a 6xx

#

you have no mud

#

you have a wide soundstage

#

good layering

steel escarp
#

true

warm scarab
#

well resolving

#

you will only be an imitation of sennheisers perfection

unique wind
#

massive earcup that's completely open = your brain thinks it sounds more open and wide

steel escarp
#

I need a tube amp

half fog
#

if you can almost hear everything through your headphones

warm scarab
#

michael its not like people dont blind test headphones

#

idk what to say

half fog
#

like outside sounds

steel escarp
#

tube amped dt880 vs he1000v2 stealth on violectric v222 would be a tough battle

unique wind
steel escarp
#

idk which one I'd pick

half fog
#

there are alot of open back headphones that have lots of padding material and not very open grilles

unique wind
#

nobody can debunk sharur in SG because nobody has done volume matched blind tests

#

they just scream and shout about how they tested them side by side with no matching

steel escarp
# unique wind

how does aeon 2 noire sound stage sound so big if its not open?

half fog
#

that guy has some good information but he mixes it with what looks like satire and bait material

#

and worships er2se

warm scarab
#

debunking sharur is posting the same harman paper he is quoting but the next page instead

lean grove
#

If you're arguing with him you've already lost

warm scarab
#

then he starts posting harman founders forum posts trying to prove something

unique wind
#

hes hated er2se for like a year

lean grove
#

Giving any amount of time to the worst bad faith arguer in the audiophile discord community is automatically a loss

unique wind
#

his audio knowledge has vastly improved in the last year

steel escarp
half fog
#

i dont keep up to date on his channel its just entertaining to see him shit on stuff and make people angry

warm scarab
#

just wait until he tries a good headphone then starts worshipping that

#

its the eternal sharur loop

steel escarp
#

he has speakers now

#

so doubt it

lean grove
warm scarab
#

yes research he constantly misinterprets

half fog
#

sharur really likes hifiman

lean grove
#

Any opinion of his own device is obvious because it's the dumbest take you've ever heard.

half fog
#

his #1 complaint about hifiman is that they all have bad resonances or whatever

warm scarab
#

which is the he400se

unique wind
#

you dont need to try hifiman arya to know if you like hifiman dip and linear bass

#

or to know its timbre at all

#

it's on the paper

warm scarab
#

you sort of do

#

not even harman claims this

#

they say x on frequency response does y

steel escarp
#

the sharur gladiator cable video was kind of funny

warm scarab
#

they don't say y cant not be caused by x

unique wind
#

are you seriously not able to roughly gauge timbre by looking at the graph

half fog
#

I like linear bass extension down to 20hz without any exaggerated hump or boosted midbass around 100-200hz

unique wind
#

that's not a high level skill

warm scarab
#

this would entail eqing stax to neutral would neutralize them

steel escarp
#

lmao

warm scarab
#

go eq two headphones to match frequency response

#

see how it goes

#

boot up autoeq on your sundaras and 400se then tell me there isn't a difference

unique wind
#

you know i own two harman tuned iems and two headphones that can be eqd to harman

#

and ive listened to all of them

half fog
#

the other problem is that all frequency response curves are measured using a test rig that is an approximation of a human ear and head

warm scarab
#

and they are the same?

unique wind
#

barring the discrepancies between them beyond the treble peak where measurements go fucky they all have very similar timbre after eq

steel escarp
#

this guy used the word timbre when describing audio

warm scarab
#

honestly yeah

steel escarp
#

that is how you instantly discredit yourself

unique wind
#

yeah i dont like typing out tonality it's a cringe audiophile word

steel escarp
#

its not the same

warm scarab
#

its because timbre is for instruments

#

not for headphones or speakers

#

its a golden ear boomer term

steel escarp
#

its a hd6xx worshipper term

#

"yeaaaa this hd6xx has really good timbre"

#

"all hifimans have bad timbre"

#

like what does that even mean

unique wind
#

they do technically

steel escarp
#

šŸ’€

warm scarab
#

6xx has missing bass idk man

steel escarp
#

bro stop

warm scarab
#

which is a lot more than the hifiman dip

unique wind
#

both have faults

half fog
#

probably heavily depends on the type of music you listen to

steel escarp
#

with EQ its literally a more neutral 6xx

unique wind
#

that would be true if youre just talking about subjective enjoyment

#

but hifiman dip is objectively inaccurate compared to harman ear gain

steel escarp
#

that mid range dip is better

warm scarab
#

midrange dip has its purposes

steel escarp
#

it sounds horrible when I decrease the dip

warm scarab
#

you might not like it and that is fine

unique wind
#

it's a subjective coloration that people enjoy

#

but it's technically "wrong"

#

to say it's more accurate is just disingenuous

warm scarab
#

sure

#

I don't say that

#

but diffuse field is the scientific correct and harman has established people hate that

steel escarp
#

harman mid range only works when you dont have harman treble

warm scarab
#

so yeah

#

scientific neutrality isn't enjoyable to listen to

#

its a benching point at best

unique wind
#

idk i love harman

#

linear bass with harman treble is boring but it doesnt hurt to listen to

warm scarab
#

harman treble isn't objectively neutral though

#

diffuse field is

unique wind
#

now youre making me wanna throw the diffuse field eq back on and compare it to harman back and forth

#

i remember it didnt bother me but i didnt prefer it

warm scarab
#

tires your ears a lot

unique wind
#

nah you know whats tiring

#

optimum hifi target

#

okay diffuse field time

warm scarab
#

don't know what optimum hifi target is

steel escarp
#

I cannot listen to harman neutral

warm scarab
#

you can

#

just not with eq

steel escarp
#

harman 1-3kHz is just pushed too far up

warm scarab
#

listening to harman treble with he1k using autoeq and k361 will be a very different experience

#

apart from the obvious

silent haven
#

shartur

#

funny curry man

unique wind
steel escarp
#

it overshadows the treble

unique wind
#

nuh uh

steel escarp
#

harman is a generalised target

warm scarab
#

do you want back into sg grey

steel escarp
#

no

warm scarab
#

youd get along with sharur very well

steel escarp
#

I will waste all my time chatting if I join back

#

I joined a few days ago

#

too busy working out

#

I gained like 2.5kg muscle in a few weeks

unique wind
#

yeah no diffuse field with harman bass honestly isnt annoying

steel escarp
#

harman bass is messed up

warm scarab
#

i like harman bass

#

thanks john harman

steel escarp
#

are we talking boosted with recessed mid bass

#

or flat

warm scarab
#

we are talking about harman bass grey

steel escarp
#

which one

unique wind
#

harman bass is very specific

steel escarp
#

its portrayed different on every graph

warm scarab
#

2018

unique wind
#

the amount varies but the location where the shelf starts is standard afaik

warm scarab
#

yes and no

#

a bit different since the slope is higher

steel escarp
warm scarab
steel escarp
#

its made for copium dynamics

warm scarab
#

maybe

steel escarp
#

because sub bass dont hit as well as in planars

#

maybe tbh

unique wind
warm scarab
#

I like it

#

I like to cut it a bit lower though

#

at around 80-100hz

#

and give it a steeper slope

unique wind
#

same i would prefer if it started like 20hz lower but otherwise stayed the same

#

but i just use standard harman eq because if i start personalizing it i'll touch it every 5 minutes

warm scarab
#

if you do like a 45hz shelf

#

you can't possibly mess it up so its a safe bet

#

just makes things rumble more

unique wind
#

im not willing to sacrifice volume on sundara to achieve that

warm scarab
#

lmao utws moment

unique wind
#

naw im using iemagni

warm scarab
#

oh

unique wind
#

iemagni on neutral gain

steel escarp
#

I prefer no recessed mid bass

warm scarab
#

i mean its not really that better

unique wind
#

50-66% knob depending on mood

#

66% is dramatically louder and mostly only used for solo music jamming

steel escarp
#

If your driver is fast enough then a bit of mid bass is welcome

unique wind
#

but honestly utws5 has plenty of power even with eq

#

at 33/33 it gets sundara so loud that the right driver starts rattling

#

and still doesnt have an audible noise floor

steel escarp
#

Honestly there are so many different signatures that are enjoyable

#

Idk what is right or wrong

unique wind
#

harman is right

#

theyve done the research

steel escarp
#

It's an average

warm scarab
#

yeah

unique wind
#

you fall in the old or woman category

steel escarp
#

It does not match whatever mood I am in to enjoy

warm scarab
#

its a median

#

to start with not every song has the same tonality or mastering

unique wind
#

if you need colored timbre to enjoy your music then your music probably just sucks

#

(95% of rock and metal)

warm scarab
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if you have songs with low bass you will prefer neutral bass because its resolution starts to go down with a bass shelf

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if you have songs with strong bass you want to emphasize it

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etc

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this is why you are bipolar when it comes to eqing

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your every song sounds different so there cannot be one perfect target

unique wind
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im not rly

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i use harman tuned iems all day and come home and use harman tuned iems or harman eqd sundara

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been this way for like half a year

warm scarab
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well yeah

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its the median to all

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the one graph that is least likely to be fucked compared to most

unique wind
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funny thing is the median argument goes the opposite way too

warm scarab
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doesn't mean other graphs cant be enjoyable though, that is just short sighted

unique wind
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the 5.5db bass shelf was chosen by the average being 43? year olds

unique wind
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younger people prefer even more bass