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warm scarab
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perfect speaker

sinful wasp
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lean grove
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Sometimes things are expensive just so they can be expensive

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lean grove
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Especially in the world

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Every market has companies which make normal affordable things and then a really bizarre really expensive thing to hold mind space.

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It's like another form of advertising but to enthusiasts

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lean grove
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I'd say it's more about brand recognition

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Even if they sold the nautilus at a loss it's still worthwhile to have the product at the top to bring to shows.

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warm scarab
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nils did you see the latest sharur moment today

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lean grove
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warm scarab
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the uh

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funny youtube troll but not really guy

lean grove
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Never heard of her

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Is she on tiktok

warm scarab
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no but he slipped into cammys dms

lean grove
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Oh yeah that

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Cringe

warm scarab
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it was incredibly funny

lean grove
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Idk why y'all are reposting cringe without hazmat

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I didn't wanna see a shirtless picture of him

warm scarab
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because it was incredibly funny

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best part is when he blamed cammy for not being a girl

lean grove
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I just feel bad about it.

warm scarab
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I feel satisfied from seeing others in their lowest

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I am such a gemini

lean grove
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Idk. I'd wager that most people on discord don't look great shirtless

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Then again I'm not sending shirtless pics to random dudes on discord hoping they find me attractive

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But still

lean grove
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$100k speakers in a shitty room made of marble and post modern style furniture is gonna sound worse than $2000 speakers in a room full of carpet and used furniture

warm scarab
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as a person who has listened to speakers at least once in his life i can say that nils is a convict and belongs in a prison

lean grove
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They haven't caught me yet

fallow whale
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Hi im looking for good pc speakers $40<

lean grove
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creative pebbles

cobalt sparrow
gentle root
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Y’all think Sennheiser Professional HD 280 PRO Over-Ear headphones a good sub 100$ pair o headphones

nova wagon
weak rapids
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Oh shit epos is shutting down

coral moat
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anybody possibly know why my sound bar lags (cuts in and out of audio while video is playing with zero lag) on one computer but when i connect it ot my other computer it does not do this.

all drivers are up to date, ive treid uninstalling and reinstalling, im at a hult

fallen lava
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velodyne 10" spl-r series

lean grove
fallen lava
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Sounds like something is in there

lean grove
fallen lava
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How hard is it to replace?

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They don't make this sub anymore so idk where I would find a new coil

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Lol

lean grove
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Anywhere between quite difficult and very hard

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It's still playing so I think you'd just need to glue things back into place

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But you'd definitely need to open it up and maybe cut and reglue some things.

fallen lava
limber skiff
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Hey, I need a speaker for my pc, but I don’t want boxes! So I found the echo dot 3. from Amazon. I can connect it with aux to my pc, is it true? Does the echo dot have an integrated microphone?
Would be nice if someone can help me : ) Thanks in advance

lean grove
limber skiff
lean grove
unborn gale
lean grove
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Idk why the echo would need to take an input signal

unborn gale
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orb speaker time

lean grove
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Orb speaker time

limber skiff
unborn gale
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speakers don't have an integrated microphone

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why would they have that

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plus, since the sound is projected outwards, the mic would constantly pick up whatever is coming from the speaker

limber skiff
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I don’t know how it calls, I saw it in a yt video , you can hear the audio from the pc and it has a microphone, with mute and more … has the look of an echo dot

unborn gale
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but like why

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why not get separate

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you will get superior everything buying it all separate and it'd also exist too

limber skiff
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I want it minimal

unborn gale
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That is so minimal to the point you that you might as well just use a laptop

lean grove
limber skiff
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Ok thank you! I will think about it

sinful wasp
dusky linden
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I like qudelix

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been serving me almost daily for 3 years straight

supple stag
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hello guys, ive got a question, i want to use one wireless usb headset for my laptop and pc, how can i pair them ? so i hear my pc and my laptop at the same time ? .. i think its not possible to use the mix on both and hear both at the same time or ? that would be ok, i only need the mic on my laptop actually, but would be nice if it would work

warm scarab
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google voicemeeter vban

supple stag
# warm scarab google voicemeeter vban

@warm scarab i cant install programms on the laptop, its work laptop from company, i want the audio from the pc to the laptop, if possible using my sub headset mic on both, but its fine when its only working on laptop

warm scarab
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I don't think this is possible

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at least not without using an unreasonable amount of devices

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you could get a mixer

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or try connecting headphone output of one computer to the microphone input of the other

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and then selecting "listen to this device" on the other computer

supple stag
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ye i was thinking about a mini mixer only to connect, but i cant find ones with usb ( and i dont know if 3.5mm to usb adapter would work ), BUT i was thinking to just use the 3.5mm output from pc into the headphone input on laptop, and my usb headset on laptop .. but i dont know if it would work

warm scarab
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you would fry the chip

supple stag
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input*

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ah its always output you right

warm scarab
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that is what I wrote above too, it would work but quality may be questionable

warm scarab
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output to output will kill something though

supple stag
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ah okok, so output from pc into headphone jacket into laptop, and from there my sub headset

warm scarab
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headphone jack of one computer to the mic input of another

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if you don't have dedicated mic/headphone ports get a splitter

supple stag
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my laptop only got a headphone jack, dont know if thats the right one

warm scarab
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it is probably both a headphone and a mic jack

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use a splitter

supple stag
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ok, so i just order a 3.5 to 3.5 cable and a spliter mic and headphone 3.5 splitter ? and than i just use the audio output from pc, into the headphone input at the laptop?

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and from there i just use my usb headset on the laptop, you think thats gonna work?

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you think an usb adapter into 3.5mm would work as well with my wireless usb headset ?

warm scarab
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should work

warm scarab
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your headset doesn't use 3.5

supple stag
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than i would get something like this .. i cant post amazon link but google pepperdeck djoclate pocket size mischpult, there i can connect 2x 3.5mm into the mixer and 1x output 3.5mm

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and on the output i would use a 3.5mm to usb ( on my wireless headset )

warm scarab
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there isn't such a thing as 3.5mm to usb that you can connect a headset to

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you need to use drivers of it

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which would require a computer

supple stag
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ah ok, i know what you mean

warm scarab
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yeah

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but usb mixers exist

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you should just be able to listen to your mixer through your pc

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I think

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you should do your own research about that though

supple stag
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i mean, i did but i didnt found ones with usb outs for headsets, just usb inputs, but like you said, i could not use the drivers than from the headset

warm scarab
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you get a mixer then connect your laptop via 3.5 to the mixer

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and then listen to it through your pc

supple stag
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TRUE, i would only need a little mixer to connect the pc to, and from there i go to the laptop, and from there i go with normal usb jacket using my headset

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so i can use the mic on the laptop as well, or?

warm scarab
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nope

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you could with some super weird setup probably but it would require a big mixer and lots of routing

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not being able to use software makes it a bit difficult

supple stag
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ah ok, i mean, i will just order some 3.5mm to 3.5, and a splitter and just connect the pc output into the input from the laptop, and there i use my usb headset in wondwos as output, should work normaly fine like we said i think

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i only cant use my mic on the pc than, but i could buy a cheap mic so i could use it there as well

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on the laptop*

warm scarab
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should be working

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just make sure you don't connect an output to another

supple stag
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i got no output actually, just go a normal headphone (both) jacket on the laptop

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i think its both, so i cant do anything wrong

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like this

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bro why exactly do i need a splitter to connect the pc to the audio on laptop?

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isnt it the same ?

nova wagon
supple stag
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i just need connect the pc audio with a 3.5mm to the laptop headset jacket ? or ? i dont need a splitter there if i think right ?

nova wagon
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For just the audio out, yea

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Thought you need a mic out as well

supple stag
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sou you think as well if i just put the audi out from pc with a 3.5mm to the headset jacket on the laptop, and from there my usb headset to hear both or ? should work right?

warm scarab
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if it is a shared port where you have microphone input and headphone output on the same jack like 95% of laptops do

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you don't want to connect a mic input to another mic input by accident because they share the same port

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you will isolate the headphone and mic part of the jack this way

cold token
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warm scarab
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don't

cold token
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aye aye captain

warm scarab
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focusrite scarlett items are really bad

cold token
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okay then ill just get the zen dac air

warm scarab
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that isn't an interface though

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if you want to plug in a mic it wont work out

cold token
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ah right okay

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I mean I don't really need an interface I just looked at Focusrite reviews and wanted to get it checked out by u as well

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I'm running a RODE NT USB mini so

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but i think ill upgrade to an xlr eventually

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I've heard some good things about the UA Volt 1 as well

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what are ur thoughts on that?

warm scarab
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I don't own or have any experience with it but comments regarding it I have seen from people who own it have been fairly positive

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but it is just hearsay generally

cold token
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are interfaces just dacs or amps or are they a combo of both?

warm scarab
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anything you can plug your headphones into has an amplifier somewhere

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and if it is working off of digital like with a usb cable, they have a dac somewhere

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and if they have an audio input that you can listen from your computer with, they have an adc somewhere

cold token
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are there any combo units that youd recommend?

warm scarab
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zen air dac 😂

cold token
nova wagon
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chord stuff i guess?

warm scarab
cold token
warm scarab
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you definitely don't need an amplifier for those

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get headphones that warrant a good amplifier before anything

cold token
warm scarab
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you can't use a dac by itself it needs an amplifier

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just use your motherboard

cold token
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would u get the hd560s or the 6xx?

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sorry for the amount of question im just trying to explore my options before really committing

warm scarab
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personally 560s

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there are definitely people who prefer the 6xx however

cold token
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both are open back by the seems of it but theres a 20 euros difference HD560s is 219 while the 6XX is 199

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so im gonna have to see which option suits me more

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like u said, the HD560s doesnt require an AMP but is that the case for the 6XX?

warm scarab
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how the hell is hd560s 220 euros

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that shit goes for like 110€ in europe

cold token
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straight from sennheiser unless theres another source

warm scarab
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look at other stores bro

cold token
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210 on Amazon

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still looking for at other stores

warm scarab
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took like 5 seconds

dreamy geyser
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see alot of people looking at sennheiser's. I got the sennheiser HD 660S2 and someone told me that i will get better sound with an AMP instead of plugging into my computer straight, i know NOTHING about audio stuff. Is anyone able to guide me if thats true? and if so what i need to get?

warm scarab
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hd660 is very notorious for being a downgrade to other headphones of the same series

dreamy geyser
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unfortunately its been a few months so i cant return them

warm scarab
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rip

dreamy geyser
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there MUCH better then what i had and i only paid 300 bucks for it

warm scarab
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on a subjective scale I'd just tell you that you are better off buying headphones instead of an amp/dac

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but zen air dac is a 100$ combo unit if you really want to spend the money

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or the ifi uno

dreamy geyser
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hmm

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its weird cause i feel like they sound fine, but again i dont know if an AMP would make a difference or not

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a dac is an amp right?

lean grove
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but if you want a nice dac and amp, then you should probably get one'

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how much do you want to spend?

dreamy geyser
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so in short i probably wont even notice a difference

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the money spending isnt a HUGE deal but im not looking to spend a ton of money

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a few hundred bucks is more then enough that i want to spend on audio

lean grove
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gotcha.
something like the qudelix 5k has a lot of functionality. its $100, sounds good, and even if you dont think you'll be hearing the difference of a dac amp it comes with a bunch of other features which will make it worth your time

dreamy geyser
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let me check that out

lean grove
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otherwise if you want something beefier, a schiit stack would be the default recommendation.
schiit magni and a schiit modi. you can probably find some good deals on ebay. just make sure you get at least the modi 3. earlier magnis arent that bad but the newer ones are really good. maybe skip the magni heresy/heretic

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you can also use the qudelix as a dedicated dac and get a beefier amp for it
or you can get an amp and a good quality dongle as a dac which is the ultimate bang for buck

dreamy geyser
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yeah this is all chinese to me lol

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i saw a few posts saying a FiiO K7 is good

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but no idea if thats actually GOOD or just expensive crap

dreamy geyser
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lol

lean grove
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i mean you can do worse. but

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there's not really anything that fiio makes thats really interesting.

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they're maybe C or B tier. they're not ripping you off and I dont think ive ever heard complaints about build quality from fiio

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if you want something to surprise you and possibly make a difference as yo what you're hearing, i wouldnt go with fiio

dreamy geyser
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got it

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im gonna look into what you recommended

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thanks for the help, even though i feel dumb not understanding what a dongle is, an amp and DAC

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just everything is confusing

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lol

warm scarab
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fiio is just

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yeah

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allegedly they have good daps when you are like 800$ in but

dreamy geyser
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yeah not spending no 800 lol

fallen lava
fallen lava
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So yes?

fresh basalt
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Any recommendations for a cheap audio interface for a PC that will let me plug in a 6.5mm and record from a guitar?

lean grove
shut parcel
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is the "soundcore life q30" good for the price?

velvet pier
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whats a good closed back for casual/gaming use

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that has actual decent build quality

unborn gale
velvet pier
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looking at a maximum of 100 CAD

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if theres an option ever so slightly above it i can stretch

unborn gale
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Probably the K371

unborn gale
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Probably not

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Haven't heard anything about soundcore stuff so they're probably just meh or not good

velvet pier
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they get a lot of praise

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like a lot

unborn gale
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where

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don't say the review section

velvet pier
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reddit, youtube

unborn gale
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also it's bluetooth, doubt it be any good for gaming

velvet pier
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my sister has been rocking m40xs for the past 2 years and they broke on her so im trying to not get her something thats gonna sound 10x worse

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and she doesnt do much actual gaming its mostly just roblox

unborn gale
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ah, but how are you expecting something bluetooth to last long without the battery degrading?

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unless of course it can be used with a 3.5mm cable

velvet pier
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shes not using bluetooth

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yea thats the idea

unborn gale
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and it must be closed back?

velvet pier
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she doesnt want noise coming in

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so yea

unborn gale
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fair

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and you can't buy used?

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since I'd still go for the K371 if possible, don't think there's much better

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at such a price

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k361 should be slightly worse but sufficient

velvet pier
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k361 seem to have way better build quality but

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i missed them

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they went outta stock on amazon

unborn gale
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oof

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it says in stock, 6 left

velvet pier
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actually wait yea

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odd

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i couldnt find em

dusky linden
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k361 is around the same price and doesn't go on-sale as often

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I have seen it for $120 but once again, still above your budget (and you'd likely have to wait so not worth)

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closed backs <$100 cad are pretty much all bad except for creative aurvana live which is on-ear (unless your ears are small) and now discontinued

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i.e. you'd be better off going for something like ksc75 which is not closed or iems if you want isolation

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I saw that this isn't for you, so yeah pretty tough

velvet pier
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I went with the k361

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I paid for most of it so my sister wasn’t dishing out so much of her birthday money

woven burrow
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Im going to be getting a new amp for my bass guitar and I was wondering if I could have some recommendations for headphones for it

half fog
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edition XS still does not have enough clamping force even after bending and putting a greekira cover on the headband

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are the aftermarket dekoni earpads thicker

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they sit 90% correctly if i sit up straight but if i tilt my head forward or back they slide a bit

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still sound better than any other headphones ive used and require no EQ

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good sub bass extension for open back

warm scarab
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get a suspension headband if you really want to

half fog
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may have to mod the headband if i get a suspension one since they have the weird shaped drivers

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and still have to disassemble the earcup and take the drivers out to access the nut to take the headband off im fairly sure

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going to try an earpad swap first

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saw some picture of a mod where someone put a leather strap under the xs headband as a homemade suspension strap but i doubt that increases the clamping force just makes it more comfortable and sit higher on head

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not sure why hifiman decided to give the stupid headband such a wide radius on the xs specifically

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they had the same headband on other headphones which fit me perfectly fine and are tighter

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its like they are pre stretched

warm scarab
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there are also some suspender mods

warm scarab
half fog
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where would you buy an ananda headband by itself

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theres stuff like this but the yoke is too short

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could probably make a custom yoke for them since they can detatch from the adjustment mechanism with 2 screws it looks like

warm scarab
fallen lava
lean grove
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With great disdain for your family and neighbors

lean grove
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starting to see some mm-100 reviews finally

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taken them long enough

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yeah the cheaper ones

unique wind
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hifiman discounted their already discounted headphones again

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$330 XS and $760 arya stealth

warm scarab
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330 is refurbished

unique wind
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yah they’re both refurb

warm scarab
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also discontinued?

unique wind
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?

warm scarab
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arya stealth yeah

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but xs is discontinued?

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oh

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i am

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yeah

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nevermind

unique wind
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did you read discounted as discontinued

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honest mistake

warm scarab
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yes

half fog
silent haven
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Get the organic over stealth

warm scarab
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don't.

ornate linden
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what's a good planar KLAUS

warm scarab
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edition xs

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330$ refurbished right now

half fog
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it sounds good but the headband is abysmal unless you have a giant head

warm scarab
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fairly impossible to find anything that good for 330$

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comfort maybe, depends on your head

half fog
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almost would have rather gone with an arya stealth just to avoid the headband and still have good sound quality but would cost 2x as much if comparing refurb to refurb price in hifiman store

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or ananda

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the "comfort" band in the hifiman store says HE 400i and 560v1 which im fairly sure is not compatible headband type with XS

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made for round earcups

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atleast the headband is usable after bending the shit out of it but still not as nice as my he560v4 headband which is the "same" style but for some reason is not stretched a mile apart out of the box

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gigantic radius

warm scarab
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well

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if you like clamp I can see why it would annoy you

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I personally don't so haven't had any issues with it

half fog
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if you stand up perfectly straight and have a tall enough head that the drivers sit level with your ears at an adjustment position then its fine

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but the drivers were not centered on my ears even on the smallest adjustment with the slides

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had to get a 15-20 dollar headband zipper cover to solve that

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still no clamping force though

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just usable now

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only other complaint really is the stock earpads kind of feel like the paper towels in a public restroom

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their new polyester material for the hybrid pads

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feels abrasive

fallen lava
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yo si this good

half fog
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waiting on dekoni velour to see if they sound close enough and are more comfortable

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hopefully keeps most of the sub bass and doesnt color it too much

unique wind
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the velour feels itchy and warm

half fog
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idk only thing i like more about it is that it seems to not attract hair as much as the older hybrid pads

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fairly sure they still have the same durability issues as previous hifiman pads though

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where they are not stitched and are just glued together at a seam with what seems like envelope glue

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you clean them and they pull apart like tissue paper

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my previous headphones from them with circular earcups ive had to replace the pads with brainwavz which is cheap and somehow still better build quality

ornate linden
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dekoni hifiman is still glued

half fog
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do they still use the same weak junk glue

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ive repaired a hifiman pad before with contact cement but it was a tedious process

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had to take the earpad apart and then clamp it together around the ring

ornate linden
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probably about the same

half fog
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had to peel the glue off the rest of the way and then scrape it off the pleather material with something like an xacto blade and then use a bunch of small metal clamps after brushing the contact cement on with a toothpick

warm scarab
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yeah hifiman pads don't take lots of abuse

half fog
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took over an hour

warm scarab
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you need to be careful when installing them and taking them off

ornate linden
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they're less bright than the stock hybrid pads, but they still extend in the bass

warm scarab
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took me 10 minutes lmao

half fog
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main time waste was because it was contact cement and not something like superglue

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had to let it partially cure before pressing together

warm scarab
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you shouldn't be using superglue

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it will melt the pleather

half fog
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yeah it runs all over and melts shit

warm scarab
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you tried?

half fog
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not on an earpad

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but on other stuff

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cheap headphones where the headband snaps

warm scarab
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you need to use something like bally

half fog
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or on an old he 400i headband that snapped at the yoke

warm scarab
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used to repair shoes

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ideally at least

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use a clothespin to squeeze it together and wait for the bally to stick

half fog
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so you just use shoe glue on earpads

warm scarab
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bally is meant to protect elasticity of items while gluing them

half fog
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to spot repair or to take all the old glue off and redo the whole seam

warm scarab
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if you use a hard adhesive it will tear

warm scarab
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very poorly at that too

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still held up for a fair bit

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hot glue will also work in small volumes

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since it is still a bit elastic

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if you are skilled use bally, if you are unskilled use hot glue

half fog
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how are you supposed to clean hifiman pads if they are so delicate

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like the inside edge

warm scarab
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they aren't too delicate, you just want to be carful not to pull on the glue

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when taking them on or off

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only thing you want to avoid doing is cutting the edge of the pad

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which will make it incredibly hard to stick it back

ornate linden
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just use a damp cloth and lint roller

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They fall apart over time but they don't really break unless you're abusing them

warm scarab
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yeah

half fog
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something else ive noticed is the foam in the hifiman pads slowly rolls over at the edges

warm scarab
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if you are really bad just suck it up and buy a new pair

half fog
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becomes less squared and more rounded

warm scarab
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yes

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the pads definitely do get worn

ornate linden
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Also yeah just buy new pads at that point

warm scarab
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yeah

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that is unavoidable for every headphone really, not exclusive to xs

elder coyote
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZKCxIuJ-5M

This guy made an insane one and you can see like at 4:50 timestamp and beyond he showcases it and it is like making his door move in and out in his room from the pressure difference to the specific frequency and it makes his house shake a little too.

Thats some neat tech for sure.

Credit goes to TRW company, the original manufacturers of this beast. And also to that one guy on YouTube who figured out to use a model helicopter rotor as the blade actuator.

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unborn gale
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rotary subwoofers, why? Like what makes it better than a normal subwoofer?

elder coyote
#

I think they are more power (electricity)/space efficient for the same decibel level and frequency at lower frequencies.

Like one rotary sub could do the work of a good bit of normal subs at the same frequency/total output level

#

you can get like real pressure differences even at the 10Hz level. Though that low and its less of like hearing something, more about feeling it.

#

watch the video at 4:50 and see what it does lol

lean grove
unborn gale
#

aight

#

that's just kinda weird how it works

lean grove
#

Yeah. Making bass by just adjusting a fan

#

But that's what you gotta do unless you wanna do bass shakers or unreasonably large transmission lines

#

If you want subbass you gotta move a lot of air.

inland bobcat
#

think im gonna make one of these

#

piezo mics are cool

unborn gale
#

as in plugging in your headphone to the mic port and using it as a mic

inland bobcat
#

I already have microphones

#

I want to make it cause cool

unborn gale
#

ok

frosty ocean
#

Would this be a good place to ask about "affordable" Super CD samplers/test/reference CDs?

blazing karma
frail gyro
#

does anyone have any decent open-back headphone recomendations? kinda looking for a gaming headset but also kinda an audiophile headset, my current headset is on its last legs

#

the audiophile part isnt necessary, i just need a good quality open back pair of headphones

fresh saddle
#

Hd 560 maybe

#

@frail gyro

#

Don't know how much they are

prisma gate
#

Hello, I need some advice for new Headphones... I use right now the DT770 with an elgato wave 3 for voice chat and some voice record on my desktop. I have a full build with Corsair on my desktop. I'm searching a new headphones because I travel too with laptop ( photographer and some video ) I need a Bluetooth headphone, but need a good mic too not as good as my wave 3 but good enough for voice chat like Discord.. I've checked a bit I've seen the virtuoso XT but the sound doesn't feel that great.. I don't want use another soft than icue or Dolby Atmos app ( I use a bit sometimes) for video edit and listen lot of music! I've seen people use Sony XM5.
My budget max is 300.. 350€!

Can you help me to choice? Thank you!

ivory tangle
#

is this good aud

silent haven
#

No

#

HD560 are mudcannons

ivory tangle
#

wdym

unique wind
#

560s are good headphones

frosty ocean
frosty ocean
#

changed my mind

frosty ocean
#

the only advice I can offer is to be very careful with feeding am amplified audio line into a receiver. I would suggest using a proper mixer and monitors instead of trying to throw a consumer audio product into the mix

lean haven
#

thoughts on razer nommo?

nova wagon
lean haven
nova wagon
#

id rather take the creative pebbles with a sub instead

lean haven
#

but there's someone locally selling it for 20 GBP

nova wagon
#

ah well then cheap way to get something sound then

frosty ocean
#

I've been happy with my "Blue" products.

lean haven
#

hmm would it be a big upgrade going from my akai sound bar now?

frosty ocean
#

I thought we were talking about microphones

lethal bloom
warm scarab
#

they aren't good but

#

among the cheap stuff you can get, they are the best

#

at least to our knowledge and most others

grand pasture
#

This seemed like a good place to ask a niche question where someone might have a good answer -

I have some klipsch speakers that I used to wall-mount, but I'd like to find some desk stands for them instead. Ideally they'd make it to a height just above the top of my monitors, since I have 3 monitors side-by-side on an arm, and it takes up all the width on my desk where I'd put them otherwise.

Anyone know of some decent desk-mount speaker stands that can get that tall? Most of the ones I've seen on Amazon are way too short to get a speaker to clear the top of a monitor

lethal bloom
warm scarab
#

you can buy the woofer separately afaik

grand pasture
#

I'm not opposed to floor stands, I'd just have to re-cable-manage my desk since I have my computer on the floor just to the right of my desk

warm scarab
#

while this is experimental advice, you can try just mounting them on monitor arms

grand pasture
#

Interesting

warm scarab
#

but it will resonate

grand pasture
#

I think that also might put me over the weight limit of the monitor arm

#

it's already only mostly able to keep my outside monitor from swinging inwards constantly

warm scarab
#

yeah you'd have to get additional arms

#

or gas ones which will be more expensive

grand pasture
#

I do have an extra 2-monitor arm that my fiancee was using, but she doesn't really need it

#

could give that a shot

#

lots to think about now, thanks for the suggestions

warm scarab
#

np

#

oh also do consider your desk

#

even if the arm supports the weight the desk might be too fragile

grand pasture
#

yes good idea

#

I made my desk out of a butcher block countertop so I would never have to worry about it 😄

warm scarab
#

how envious I am

#

my ikea garbage desk will forever be a dark page of my life

grand pasture
#

Yep, I had one of those that I tried mounting 3 monitors on before

#

No clue how it survived 9 months of that

warm scarab
#

I am sure nothing went wrong

#

it survived 9 months?

#

wow

grand pasture
#

somehow

warm scarab
#

mine dented after mounting a mic on it

grand pasture
#

when I pulled the arm off when I was packing up, it was dented super bad

warm scarab
#

had to cut a metal sheet to support the arm

grand pasture
#

I intentionally put the arm as close to the middle leg of the back as I could

#

the particle board or cardboard or whatever it was got destroyed but it never collapsed

#

I didn't expect it to work when I did it, but I never questioned it lol

#

I figured if I tried to understand how it worked, it'd stop working

warm scarab
#

wise decision

#

mine doesn't seem like it will collapse unless i mess with it so i just don't touch it

dusky linden
#

are you using xlr or usb

#

that one is xlr right

#

se v7 or sm57/58 is better

wheat moss
#

sm58

#

the sm57 is an instrument mic

#

I'd prefer a Sennhieser E 845 over the Sm58, and is usually cheaper

warm scarab
hidden haven
#

wazzup buds, does somebody knows a musicplayer for android like itunes, regarding following feature?:
"As terrible as iTunes is, it does a reasonably good job of writing metadata to your music files. If you use the app to sync your music, you can use it to specify equalizer settings per-song."

broke my dt770 on repair, fixed my dt990, now the higher bass is nice on some songs and not on others hehe
greetings from germany!

ivory tangle
warm scarab
#

yeah avoid podmic

#

also what is your audio interface

#

also is that in USD or CAD?

#

because 330$ for hd560s? jesus christ

#

those go for 150$

#

and you are better off using your motherboard than anything fosi audio makes

unique wind
#

it’s basically $160+tax converted it’s normal price

half fog
#

hifiman uses dogshit plastic on their stock hybrid ultrapads

#

super brittle

#

broke one clip out of the two mounting rings when swapping pads

#

dekoni pads went in fine

#

exact thing as that review happened to me

warm scarab
#

I really don't know how you can break the rings man

half fog
#

ring didnt snap in half or bend it was the rentention clips

#

one in a corner

lean grove
#

I bought the rings for aftermarket pads and they're not brittle, they're thin. If you pull them out like an ape yeah they're gonna break.

half fog
#

came off with one of them hanging partially on and then fell off

#

was not even ripping them off I was pulling them off like I did on any other hifiman ive used and working at each edge slowly

lean grove
#

Sounds hot

half fog
#

never broke any other hifiman earpad

#

usually they are softer plastic this shit was brittle

#

no give

lean grove
#

Hm. Still gonna chalk it up to a skill issue.

half fog
#

should have just spent for the arya even though its the same low build quality but atleast it would have a usable headband

lean grove
#

Just be careful with your things.

half fog
#

yes like i THREW the headphones against a desk until the earpads came off

#

and ripped them off like some gorilla

lean grove
#

See that sounds like user error to me

#

Does hifiman have instructions on how to replace the pad

#

Something with pictures

half fog
#

watched a dekoni video of the pads being removed

#

did it in same way

#

for the specific earpad

#

did not feel much resistance once the clips started to unhook but then one corner was snapped

#

other side came off with no damage

#

may have even been like that initially they were bought refurb direct from hifiman

#

or partially pre strained at that one hook

warm scarab
haughty girder
#

no?

#

sm57 is actually more versatile than sm58

#

but they're similar

#

either way for vocals, SE v7 all the way

haughty girder
#

it blows the ever living crap out of the podmic

#

tho podmic is bad the same way at2020 is bad

#

it's just harsh

#

it can work for some people but don't rely on it

warm scarab
#

yeah but

#

why would you want to copy the sm7b

#

instead of a good mic

haughty girder
#

hm?

haughty girder
#

it doesn't sound like an SM7b

warm scarab
#

oh

haughty girder
#

it resembles the SM7b in tha fact that it's a broadcast style mic

warm scarab
#

misleading title

haughty girder
#

yes

#

If anything it's more like an Mv7 size wise

#

but anyway it's worth a look

#

~50 bucks for materials including the mic

#

assuming you have soldering equipment and skills

silent haven
#

pisses me off

#

arya organic WORSE earpads than the stealth

#

not to mention the earpads make contact with the headband

#

dont feel like getting dakoni or anything because of the sound signature change

tough lava
wheat moss
#

"Dynamic Instrument Microphone"

#

and the sm58 is the "Dynamic Vocal Microphone"

warm scarab
#

like the lcd x being a studio headphone

wheat moss
#

thats audiophile shit, not professional audio

warm scarab
#

that is where you are wrong

#

it is advertised as a studio headphone

unique wind
#

the lcdx frequency response looks like they purposefully took correct treble ear gain and flipped it upside down

#

it’s so weird

warm scarab
#

perfect for studios

buoyant vale
#

Compliments their ns-10s

#

💀

dusky linden
#

compliments their mdr-7506's

mossy meteor
#

what do we think abt this

#

replacement for EVO-4?

lean grove
mossy meteor
#

it doesn't hv audio input/output or XLR so not a replacement imo lol

warm scarab
#

they are selling an rgb knob lmfao

lean grove
#

I would prefer if it didn't have to go through synapse

warm scarab
errant jolt
#

What would be the best wireless headset for gaming and/or watching movies?

errant jolt
#

Hoooly hell, thanks!

#

Was thinking about Turtle Beach Stealth Pro but these seem better.

granite summit
#

I’m using my lg phone rn cat_hearts

#

Great for listening to music

#

Not much else

tame jay
#

Does the apple airpods 3rd generation non safe mag case wirelessly charge?

swift cradle
#

What are the best speakers for £50?

#

I was thinking Creative Pebble V3s/2.1 Plus

lean grove
swift cradle
#

Looks massive lmao, I don’t have a lot of desk space though

lean grove
#

The big part is a subwoofer and can be stashed away pretty much anywhere and the speakers themselves are maybe twice as tall as the pebbles

#

But if they don't work then yeah get the pebbles

swift cradle
#

The V3s or 2.1 plus?

warm scarab
#

2.1

buoyant robin
granite summit
#

I think I might get a subwoofer soon

#

Not sure tho

lean grove
cold token
#

would u guys recommend anything else besides the Schiit Stack?

lean grove
#

For how much money

cold token
#

lets say 300 euros. I'm in Ireland

#

i can up the budget if needed

median moon
#

Got this Headphones for my audio interface today. I saw the disign and loved them instant lmao. They sound so fucking good tho and quality is awsome for the price. Does anyone have them tho or has experience with philips headphones?

lean grove
# cold token lets say 300 euros. I'm in Ireland

Schiit is the default recommendation.

Ifi has the Zen DAC air which doesn't have as much power as the schiit stack but it's gonna be way cheaper. The power it provides should be enough for 97% of headphones tho.

There's also the topping stack which is the l30 and the d30 and those measure really well but they might be more expensive.

If you can find a used schitt Asgard, that's gonna be better than the magni.

lean grove
unborn gale
#

just don't buy the Schiit Magni

#

the pot (knob) makes it unusable

cold token
cold token
lean grove
#

The knob is fine

unborn gale
#

the magni is powerful and whatnot, but if you like static whenever you move the knob, or even static sometimes when it's not, then go for it, otherwise don't

unborn gale
#

I've had like 2-3 magnis

cold token
#

What do u guys think about the Loxije A30? Would you recommend it or..?

unborn gale
#

only one didn't have that problem...except it did, it took several weeks or so to go away

lean grove
#

I haven't heard anything about loxjie other than them being cheap

cold token
#

I mean I’m gonna be running this setup for a long long time so I need something reliable

#

I don’t wanna spend 300 bucks on something that’ll break down in months time

lean grove
#

Static while turning the knob is a non-issue.

unborn gale
#

except one of my Magnis had static without turning the knob

#

sure when listening to stuff, you didn't hear it, but it WILL get on your nerves

lean grove
#

Then you should have rma'd because that's a broken magni

unborn gale
#

nah I sold it

#

they all have bad QCs

lean grove
#

Why would you sell a broken magni

unborn gale
#

they all have this issue

lean grove
#

My piety didn't

unique wind
#

i only hear noise when turning the knob

unborn gale
#

it's like how all Audeze headphones have crinkly drivers

lean grove
#

Dead quiet

unborn gale
#

because I don't have that issue with literally every other amp

unique wind
#

it’s a low quality analog pot it feels like sand

#

but i don’t turn it very often

unborn gale
#

my E10k doesn't have that issue, Asgard 3 no issue (tho it blew up later on lmao)

lean grove
#

That's the reality of the price bracket

#

If you want a fancier knob pay more or find a digital pre amp

unborn gale
#

forgot the name, but it's a plastic amp around the same price point that also doesn't have that issue either

unique wind
#

if you spend $200 you can get a magnius which is an endgame amp in terms of measurements but only for balanced connections

cold token
#

I do quite like the A30 personally it’s fairly aesthetic and seems as if it has a lot of customisable options such as the EQ

unique wind
#

shit for single ended

unborn gale
#

my JDS Atom Labs amp also didn't have a scratchy pot

#

so no, at a low price point doesn't mean it should have a shitty pot

lean grove
#

JDS atom and schiit both use a 9mm alps potentiometer

unborn gale
#

better QC then

#

tho I guess I do have to mention that at a low volume (for the Atom), like rotating the knob from 0-5 degrees did have channel imbalance, but not as big of an issue as just static

lean grove
#

Yeah it did have that problem. Annoying for some iems

#

But that's also pretty common for most pots

#

That's why digital volume control is better

unique wind
#

a third negative gain option is clutch for iems

lean grove
#

No imbalance

unborn gale
#

though I do want to mention that Schiit has been pretty good when it comes to their warranty

#

my Asgard 3 more or less failed 3 times

lean grove
unborn gale
#

and the first 2 times they sent it backed fixed relatively quickly

#

still waiting on the third

#

won't be a 4th because I'm gonna just get rid of it

half fog
#

yeah velour dekoni suck on edition XS swapped back to stock and they are way better

#

more comfortable but completely ruins sound

lean grove
#

The pad rolling experience

unborn gale
#

what's so special about the qudelix 5k?

#

other than its small size

half fog
#

too bad the hifiman pads have a sandpaper texture and are super firm foam

#

and has britle shit plastic for the mounting clips

#

pulled the dekoni off with no clips snapping

#

plastic is more plyable

unique wind
#

the mounting bits are terrible but i love the texture and density of the stock pads

#

velour is itchy and warm and gross

half fog
#

"skill issue" when the clips are a bad design

#

designed failurepoint

unborn gale
lean grove
unborn gale
#

wood screws, plastic everything etc

half fog
#

probably just tanking the money and buying arya so i can have headphones that i actually enjoy the sound of with a non shit headband

#

below 1000 refurb or open box

unborn gale
half fog
#

looking at stealth edition

unborn gale
#

except price I guess, not exactly a cheap headphone, but still worth

half fog
#

just have to get money back on the edition XS otherwise im stuck with ones that I hate

unique wind
#

i really wanna try a dan clark headphone

#

aeon 2 noire or aeon closed x

half fog
#

bought them less than a month ago from hifiman store idk their refurbished returns policy

#

kept all packaging

lean grove
half fog
#

decent headphones fully ruined by the worst headband ever made

unique wind
#

with eq they could be sublime closed backs

#

it's a shame he chose to use ugly blue plastic for that version

lean grove
#

EQ can't fix Dan's problems

unique wind
#

the noire looks so much nicer

lean grove
#

Noire is also Haram

unique wind
#

why is it haram

half fog
#

why do all dekoni arya pads have a similar looking FR measurement where they fully drop off after the mids

#

probably worse than the noname ones on amazon for 30 dollars

#

similar story for the other 3 variations

unique wind
#

youre not gonna find a pad that feels different without making the headphones sound different too

half fog
#

maybe its the foam they use then

#

main similarity between the 4 different types all drop off after 2khz

lean grove
half fog
#

like 5db reduction

#

but it just made my headphones sound like having a cold with blocked ears and congestion

#

not enjoyable

unique wind
#

you turned your XS into audeze headphones

half fog
#

lol

unborn gale
#

make sure to blow on the drivers so you get the full audeze experience of crinkly drivers

half fog
#

my 560v4 started having crumpling noises after a few years of use

#

on one side

unborn gale
#

oof

half fog
#

not while playing music but barely putting any force against the earcup

#

would hear it crunching

#

the right driver

#

probably lost tension over time or something

#

would not be suprised if they sound closer to the stock pads than the dekoni

warm scarab
unborn gale
#

judging by how cheap the construction of hifimans are, they probably use the cheapest earpads lol

warm scarab
#

id say the chassis itself is more wack

unborn gale
#

but they still work...somehow

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm scarab
#

I don't know how you can cheap out on earpads except for the pleather that flakes off

warm scarab
unborn gale
#

yeah because people get pissed when you aren't losing money on sales

#

I do test out things I sell to confirm whether they have problems and of course will offer returns if it truly is fucked

#

I've had multiple STAX that have issues, and were sold and stated as having issues

#

I ship quickly, package well etc and honestly do better than most sellers, but because I make money from it, that's why people get pissed.

warm scarab
#

I really only heard people expecting fully functional items and instead getting dusty stax

#

don't think anyone cares about your profits

unborn gale
#

They are fully functional?

warm scarab
#

after all they paid that money

unborn gale
#

Actually, who has bought a pair and complained about it?

warm scarab
#

dusty stax aren't fully functional

unborn gale
#

Like who are these people

warm scarab
#

pay a visit to sg

unique wind
#

sg average iq is like 75

warm scarab
#

it is

unborn gale
#

also, if they've got complaints, why did they just not bother asking me? tf

warm scarab
#

sg's collective worth is spamming slurs in the chat

unique wind
#

everytime someone is being told to buy he400se i make sure to mention that it feels like a fisherprice or happymeal toy

#

it always gets deleted

#

i get censored

warm scarab
#

I have just been converted your infamy regarding the subject

unborn gale
#

I don't see how I'm the problem then.

#

Literally people just spreading lies and bullshit.

unique wind
#

joe

warm scarab
#

which is relatively fair

warm scarab
#

I am not saying your buyers are displeased

unborn gale
#

what do you even mean by "dusty stax"?

warm scarab
#

stax with dust on the filters and drivers

unborn gale
#

uh no

amber rock
#

Is the only difference a slightly different shade of black? Or am I missing something else?

unborn gale
#

I don't do that

#

yes I've had multiple cases of STAX that have dust in the drivers, but I ALWAYS mention it

warm scarab
unborn gale
warm scarab
#

I just state that you have an infamy for selling dusty stax

unborn gale
#

but no, the drivers are fully functional with no dust

warm scarab
#

they aren't

unique wind
#

racist old people headphones anyway

warm scarab
#

by this logic ruptured drivers are fully functional because they produce sound

unborn gale
#

I hate returns so I'll make sure to mention stuff like that if I do sell them since I know for a fact the buyer will complain and return them anyways

warm scarab
#

and I don't proclaim you don't

unborn gale
warm scarab
#

I never claimed you scammed people or alike

#

I claimed you sold people dusty stax

#

and had an infamy for it

unborn gale
#

that claim is false then

warm scarab
#

you yourself said they are dusty minutes ago though

unborn gale
#

bruh

unique wind
#

annie are you okay

unborn gale
#

you never clarified what "dusty stax" was previously from when I replied

warm scarab
#

stax with dust in places?

unborn gale
#

???

#

what are you trying to do here?

#

Further slander me?

warm scarab
#

why would you assume that

#

I said you have an infamy for selling dusty staxes

unborn gale
#

Like damn I try my best as a seller and you continue with this "selling people dusty stax"

#

continuing this lie

warm scarab
#

but you do

unborn gale
#

what the fuck is wrong with you

warm scarab
#

lie? you said it yourself

#

was that a lie then

#

were you lying to me

lean grove
half fog
#

either way they sound wrong

#

like really wrong

#

vocals distorted

#

sounded less clear

lean grove
half fog
#

sub bass and bass response was similar but in the midrange something got fucked

#

and less high end

ornate linden
#

they do

warm scarab
#

ngl the dekoni elite velour is pretty damn alright if it sounds like the one in the graph

ornate linden
#

They're better than the current pads imo

#

The old v1 pads were the best but those are unobtanium now

half fog
#

it sounds more like the screwed up looking graph dekoni recorded

#

completely different from stock

#

atleast a 5db difference

half fog
#

best way to describe how the velour dekoni arya pads sound on edition XS is "muddy"

#

drivers dipped in a swamp

warm scarab
#

you should just try to do the headband mod

#

or get an ananda headband honestly

half fog
#

the comfort headband on the hifiman store is not for ananda its for the round earcups like on he 400i and he560v1

#

but it looks similar

#

wait nvm the ananda uses some weird version of the sundara headband

#

the one that came out after that comfort one

#

but that still has the wrong yokes on it for the egg shaped drivers

#

shorter around earcups

#

he basically had to buy a sundara headband and then peel back the pleather on the top part of the XS headband and then unscrew it to release the yokes

#

and then swap the yokes

#

kept yokes on XS and then shoved them into sundara headband as is without unscrewing from drivers

#

id do that if i didnt plan on returning these since its a fairly destructive mod and because i have a pair of broken sundaras around

#

but these are within the supposed return window so

#

basically have to demolish the XS headband just to take the yokes out

#

unless that goes back perfectly after peeling it like that

#

untucking from the ends

unborn gale
#

that looks cursed

half fog
#

great headband design

#

the HE 400i "enhanced comfort" which is what the ones on the arya look like is literally better in every way except odd material choice

#

the top strap is kind of low quality pleather material with dimples in it which collect hair and dust

#

and the plastic yokes can snap if you are unlucky or pull on them just the right way

#

unless the arya changed the materials from the other "comfort" bands

unborn gale
#

oh yeah the yoke move rotates smoothly due to basically using 2 mouse glide pads

half fog
#

what are those yokes made out of

#

is it solid plastic/metal/wire reinforced plastic

#

fairly sure those are just set in with tension too and you dont need to unscrew them to take them off

unborn gale
#

I have an Arya

#

yokes are metal

#

but they don't seem to be tensioned, rather they seem secured within the earcups

half fog
#

just waiting on support for a return not sure how good they are about it direct from their store

unborn gale
#

and I know because I've taken mine apart

half fog
#

and not amazon

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would be 1000 new for stealth on amazon or 750 refurb on hifiman site

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or around that

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not sure how often their open box/refurbished list changes out and if id get screwed over by waiting until my return goes through to order

warm scarab
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@half fog why not just mod it

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its not a confusing mod

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you get a leather lace

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squeeze it between connection points in the headband

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boom

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suspension

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or you can just tie it around the thing

half fog
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would rather just get arya not great value wise but it comes with the headband I want without screwing with it and they have better drivers

warm scarab
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I mean yeah but this is 10$

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or 20$

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that is like

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900$?

half fog
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these have annoyed me enough even if I can eventually get them to be more usable

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plus id still have to replace the earpads since the shit retention clips are like porcelain

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would consider xs "better than sundara or he 560" but thats about it

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just because he 560v4 has funny tuning and sundara has shit subbass extension

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with severe driver failure QC problems

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I do like the earcup shape though which is basically shared between ananda and arya

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if i had set strict budget constraints for my desktop audio setup then modding these would make more sense but ive had enough and i can afford to just upgrade and not deal with this atrocity

warm scarab
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brother its just a headband

silent haven
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Brotha

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XS dogshit headband

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Same one they use for he400 or whatever

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150$ headphone

cold token
silent haven
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no

tepid torrent
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Capra audio to the rescue

silent haven
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is this a decent bass EQ setting

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i hear distortion when i crank heavy bass songs

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on my arya organics

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not sure if its a driver issue or eq issue

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tried it on my sundaras and i hear distortion too but a lot less

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sounds like paper or something flapping

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that kind of sound

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seems to happen when i adjust my amp

warm scarab
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but you are very far away from that so don't be concerned

wheat moss
warm scarab
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but they are studio headphones

buoyant vale
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its almost like you can print 'professional' or 'studio' on whatever you want

strange lark
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anybody know of any good quality budget headphones?

warm scarab
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define budget

strange lark
lean grove
twin spade
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yo, any good about 100 usd or less headphones, wired or wireless, if wired needs a long cable (unless it has a 6.3mm jack for my rode ai1 amp), dont need a mic.

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am considering srh440a

vapid depot
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440 is ok

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oh wait ai1 isn’t a dedicated amp

twin spade
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this may be a stupid question but whats the diff betweeen open and closed back

twin spade
vapid depot
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it will have an amp yea but it’s not a dedicated amp

vapid depot
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closed backs close it off and isolate your ears to the driver

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both have the strengths and weaknesses

twin spade
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would open back make them less noise cancelling and make others around me hear it more?

vapid depot
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general open backs are known for being more natural sounding whereas closed backs have been bass response and sound stage

twin spade
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i thinnnk i'd probably prefer closed then

vapid depot
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you shoukd use them in a quiet env

vapid depot
twin spade
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i'd just be using them for gaming/general whatever

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is it not worth spending more if im not using em for precise audio or somethin

vapid depot
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no nothing like that’s it’s that you’d be buying good quality headphones

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if it’s for casual uses imo the most you should spend on just a headphone build entirely is like 1k or 2k

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that should last you to the ends of your days

twin spade
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oke oke

warm scarab
vapid depot
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eh that’s subjective

warm scarab
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it isn't really

twin spade
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for myself i would probably prefer the other benefits tbh

warm scarab
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you can't match opens unless you are able to defy sound physics or discover some unknown reflection technology not yet available to mankind or consumers

vapid depot
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yea you can’t match how opens will sound

twin spade
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i do like passive noise cancelling

vapid depot
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oh yea i forgot about k361

warm scarab
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you can't really beat it except with akg k371 in the sub 300$ region

vapid depot
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goes a bit over 100 tho

warm scarab
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it should be like 80-90$ in the us and eu markets

vapid depot
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imo

warm scarab
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name a better sub 300$ closed back then

vapid depot
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they’re fine budget

vapid depot
unique wind
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sundara closed back is unusable without eq

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it’s horrifically bad stock

vapid depot
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yea ofc