audio-tech

[silent haven]

Its brighter than id like but still hard to find something better at 160$

[warm scarab]

hd560s

dt880

akg k371

he400se

[buoyant vale]

ksc75

[warm scarab]

akg k612

[buoyant vale]

sitting in silence

[warm scarab]

truthear reds

holas

[dry stratus]

880 and 990 are about as open back, lol
990 just has more issues

[warm scarab]

salnote zero

to be fair only 3 in that list are open back but its plenty

[silent haven]

Price has gone up on the sennheisers

[warm scarab]

depends on where you live

[buoyant vale]

with 990 you have to factor in the price of the blender too

[warm scarab]

real

[silent haven]

Ive tried HD560s probably the most unfortable shit ive ever tried

[warm scarab]

that's your head

[silent haven]

650 tii

[warm scarab]

that is practically the same headphone chassis

[white gate]

That's bandwidth not impulse response

[cold token]

so

what should i go for?

[graceful canopy]

whats a good mic/headphone combo for 300$
i have nothing
so boom arms account to the cost too

[molten lotus]

Wired or wireless

[dry stratus]

Would be weird if wireless, because might as well when mic is wired too .-.

[graceful canopy]

wireless

[graceful canopy]

i move around alot

and spin on my chair

ive been using wireless headsets for like 4 years

[molten lotus]

Audeze maxwell

[dry stratus]

Just sit still?

[dry stratus]

300 max he said

-5000% audio quality on wireless

[molten lotus]

Used

It’s $299 almost everywhere anyway

[dry stratus]

380+ here

[graceful canopy]

thats no including a mic

not*

[graceful canopy]

out of the question

its not like i stream and stuff

i play games and use discord

but my current headset is falling apart and i have money saved

[dry stratus]

Still doesn’t mean u can’t stop spinning around 50 times the same way

[graceful canopy]

alright then,

what equipment should I get

if its wired

[fallen lava]

Tiny ass subs lol

[warm scarab]

that's body shaming

[warm scarab]

hd560s

fairly durable

good sounding

[warm scarab]

what is the point of getting a mic if you are planning on using a wireless headset

either locks you into place to be functional

[unique wind]

i mean i used wireless headphones with a wired mic

[cold token]

cool, sounds good. thanks for the recommendations mate

[molten lotus]

do any of you have comparisons between the sony wh-1000xm4 vs xm5? did the xm5 improve on the nc?

[dry stratus]

Neither

Both trash

Neither, because u need good sound for that too..

Unless u like not hearing anything

Ew no

[cold token]

sorry for disturbing u guys again but any recommendations for budget speakers?

[dry stratus]

Lol

Less bass actually better

Because u will be able to hear more than just explosions 24/7

Bass is bad for any

Just makes u hear less

Anyway, neither

[cold token]

honestly

[dry stratus]

Rtings ratings are trash

[cold token]

ive owned tons of headsets and i only just realized ive wasted my money on most of them

[dry stratus]

The graphs are their only worth

[cold token]

i personally dont think they are worth it which is why im attempting to buy a good pair of headphones now so

[dry stratus]

Also don’t use versus.com, lol

They use specs, which mean absolutely nothing in audio

Cloud II are good if u want a gaming headset, but..

Better to go without gaming headset

[cold token]

u could always got modmic but idk how good that is

dont listen to me idk why im talking

[dry stratus]

Tfw many esports just use cheap in ears

And hide it under their headset

Nah, gotta sleep

[dry stratus]

Have them do it, lel

[cold token]

i was actually about to pick those up

[cold token]

what are ur thoughts on the hd560s ?

[unique wind]

gud hedfones

that’s the point yeah

99% of open backs have flat bass

i would almost be inclined to pick the sennheiser pc38x over the 560s even if you don’t use the microphone because the build quality is similar and the treble is smoother on 38x

[warm scarab]

well you must have heard wrong

these ratings are meaningless and use a borderline arbitrary target

if you are certain you cannot buy anything else, blackshark 2

since it actually is durable contrary to arctis series that go kaput in a year

either way you would want to eq both of them so it's half usable

[lucid dust]

Just got some new logitech wired headset, it's not connecting, can anyone help?

[unborn gale]

wired?

[lucid dust]

yep

[unborn gale]

if so, are you sure you plugged it in the headphone port and not the mic port?

[lucid dust]

this happened to me before after switching to a wireless then wanted to switch back after it died mid gaming session, i don't know what's causing it

[lucid dust]

Yep, sadly I'm not that inexperienced

[unborn gale]

is the connection USB or a 3.5mm cylindrical jack?

[lucid dust]

3.5

3.5 to line in line out splitter

tried the 3.5 dual jack in the case usb, didn't work

[unborn gale]

ah

[lucid dust]

everything's plugged in right, audio drivers are updated, everything is good

just doesn't work

[unborn gale]

check Audio Settings on the bottom right

of your PC

[lucid dust]

yep already done that

[unborn gale]

confirm if you've connected to the right audio source

[lucid dust]

everything is good and set up

nothing is showing up for the audio source

not even showing up

only the old wireless headset

[unborn gale]

Have you chose all of them?

[lucid dust]

yep

[unborn gale]

to try them all

huh ok

[lucid dust]

see why I'm stumped?

I'm prob just gonna return these and get some good wireless ones, since I know those work

[warm scarab]

amd?

isn't that your hdmi

you need to use speakers

[lucid dust]

I was going through all to check right before i took this

[warm scarab]

right

[lucid dust]

Ik it's the hdmi

[warm scarab]

did you try another device

like your phone

[lucid dust]

yep, they work there

[warm scarab]

so its a software issue

[lucid dust]

yep, even though all my software is all set

[warm scarab]

try a different pair of headphones on your pc

[lucid dust]

Fixed it, ended up installing most of my drivers and reinstalling, dunno what caused it

[graceful canopy]

what is the best usb mic on the market

the best

deadass?

[wind frigate]

My audio tech my motherboard’s audio to some old Apple wired headphones that only work in 1 ear boy it’s bun being poor

[unborn gale]

what

[warm scarab]

i

[wind frigate]

?

[warm scarab]

please don't hurt me

[wind frigate]

I won’t I’m too poor to lol

I will get a job at a grocery store soon tho 🙂

It will be my first ever job

And I can afford cool stuff with that money (cool stuff aka new headsets and gpu)

[unborn gale]

maybe save your money instead...

and buy headphones instead of headsets

anything but headsets

[alpine laurel]

360 Kinect

[frank cedar]

Anyone have any experience with Wyze Headphones?

[dry peak]

Any opinions on the Philips Fidelio X2HR/00? They look like an upgrade from the shp9500 but they might just be the same for a higher price

[lethal bloom]

looking for a new gaming headset is the dt990 worth the money i really like the look of it

[dry peak]

Why not? Can you test it maybe in an electronics store near you?

[drifting root]

I need to get some cans the etmoytic's are getting a litte wearying

[visual steeple]

they're open which means they'll provide no noise isolation

also they're beyerdynamics, so they'll have ear-piercing treble, if you're into that

the measurements also reveal a pretty hefty drop in bass towards the low-end
while the 990 provide a good deal of upper bass ("warmth" but also "muddiness"), you won't get much extreme low end ("depth") out of them, unless you use EQapo (which is my recommendation for any headphone at any price pretty much anyways)

[warm scarab]

dt880 is directly better

[molten lotus]

Hello community
I have a question, I’m planning to buy a MB air 15 inch and also some DT770 pros down the line.
I want to know if the 250 ohm version will work well with the MBA as they do with the MB Pros or I’m better of getting the 80/32 ohm version. From what I hear, 2020 onwards in pro models, and 2021 in air models, Apple put a much better DAC in the macs that can easily drive 250 ohm headphones, and I also found a few video that confirmed the same for the PROS too but nothing for the air yet.

I’m keen on getting the 250 ohm version because of the cable, any sound differences are negligible since I plan on using EQMac to EQ them anyways

[unique wind]

the macbook air 15 does have the higher voltage headphone jack yes

the 80ohm model of the dt770 is the best version in terms of sound tuning, but the akg k371 sounds better and is easier to power

[molten lotus]

It’s not available in my country, I would’ve gone for that otherwise.

Also, how is the 80 ohm better tuned ?

[molten lotus]

Awesome, so it shouldn’t have any problems then

[visual steeple]

The 371 are really good sounding, but they didnt fit on my head, so comfort is something to consider

They have very low clamping force and if you're wearing glasses or your cheekbones are a bit on the larger side they will likely not seal

Also the earcups on the 371 aren't super deep

They weren't for me, but if they work for you then they're great

If you dont need sealed headphones you can really go wrong with HE400se+EQ

And if you dont like their stock headband you buy the leather strip for 40 bucks, which is really comfy

[warm scarab]

do get that

250ohm is easier to drive and better sounding

it will have a bit less maximum volume but that is alright

[molten lotus]

Did consider them, but I like a little bit of bass and not too much treble
I’ll just tone down the treble on the Dt770, something they’re dreaded for , turn up the bass a little and be good to go

[molten lotus]

Interesting

[warm scarab]

then you will love them far more than the dt770

dt770 has a fuck ton of treble and bass out of place

akg k361 is also a thing if k371 is particularly unavailable

which is k371 with less bass

[molten lotus]

They only go down to like 40hz
Dt can go to 10-20 easily

[warm scarab]

this is false

[molten lotus]

I’ll EQ the treble out

[warm scarab]

you can't eq out peaks

akg k371 vs dt770

you can clearly see that dt770 is a literal rollercoaster wheras k371 is very stable and flat except for the emphasized sub bass region

if we bring up objectivity into this, then it is very clear whichever deviates less from the target

[molten lotus]

Akg is not an option for me in India

He400 is

[warm scarab]

he400se is also alright but it may be a difficult eqing it without an amplifier

definitely a lot better than the dt770

it layers exceptionally well, has good detail and an okay soundstage, bit of a limp bass though

last part you can eq to fix up a bit

[molten lotus]

Why can’t I just turn down the treble on the dt770

I really liked my friends pair

Very comfy

[warm scarab]

then get them man

but don't ask us for advice if you are going to disregard it

[molten lotus]

Bro I just asked if 250ohm will work on Mb air or not
Didn’t even ask for any alternatives

[warm scarab]

honestly

you are right

it will work

[molten lotus]

🫡

[candid marten]

I have a speaker amp (about 200W) is it ok to plug headphones in to the PHONES output?

[warm scarab]

yeah but speaker amplifiers' headphone outputs are generally joke tier

modern or not

except some wacky stuff like vintage nads that have zero attenuators on the phone output

[candid marten]

Its from the 70's

[warm scarab]

its fine

[candid marten]

Here’s a photo

[warm scarab]

it is a headphone output

[warm scarab]

why would it be unsuitable for plugging in headphones

[candid marten]

Just wondering if its safe to use

[candid marten]

Yes

[warm scarab]

it is fine man

[candid marten]

OK thanks

and can you recommend some good quality, affordable headphones to use ?

[warm scarab]

budget?

[candid marten]

yes

[warm scarab]

that isn't a number

[candid marten]

$100 usd

[warm scarab]

akg k371

k361 if it is out of budget

[candid marten]

whats the difference between the 2?

[warm scarab]

k371 has slightly more bass

which is neat

[candid marten]

i guess

can you recomend any open backs for arround the same price?

[warm scarab]

I'd say to save up for hd560s

or he400se

one is 110$ other is anywhere between 110-170$

[candid marten]

thanks man

and is it best to buy strait from Sennheiser ?

[warm scarab]

wherever is cheaper should work

doesn't really matter, warranty from both hifiman and sennheiser is solid

[candid marten]

cool

thanks

[candid marten]

Will these run out of a MAC/Iphone also?

[warm scarab]

yeah they are fairly easy to drive

[candid marten]

120 Ω right?

[warm scarab]

yes

[candid marten]

once again, Thanks.

[steel escarp]

I tried everything but the buzzing on the ifi dac is still present

its not the ungrounded wifi router, the overclocking of my cpu/gpu, any ground loop, any broken cable.

reinstalled the ifi usb driver

EQ APO now doesn't recognise the device again... gonna hold off with registering it in case EQ APO and IFI drivers dont place nice together

its been quiet so far

its back

[unique wind]

insanity

[raven swan]

Not sure if this has been asked. But Soundcore Q45 or Soundcore Space one?

Online reviews say q45, just wanted to see what you guys thought

[brave gale]

looking to probably get a wireless headset, whats a good one yall would recc

[warm scarab]

audeze maxwell

[torpid briar]

can someone help this is my 3rd headset ive bought and returned literally none of my headphones work on my pc

but all of the shitty earphones that arehalf broken work

i cant keep buying and returning these headphones

[warm scarab]

usb ones or 3.5?

[torpid briar]

3.5

[warm scarab]

I think the issue may be with your motherboard's audio card

[torpid briar]

they just worked, but only work at a very specific angle which needs pressure 24/7 to keep in place

do you know how i can fix this

[warm scarab]

apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

[torpid briar]

my old apple earphones from like 2014 work perfectly

[warm scarab]

8$

[torpid briar]

on my pc

[warm scarab]

I know

[torpid briar]

where is this meant to connect

on my headphones

[warm scarab]

your usb c port

the 3.5

[torpid briar]

its got a USB too but its for the led lights

[warm scarab]

what

usb goes to your pc

[torpid briar]

https://www.robertdyas.co.uk/deltaco-gaming-dh210-stereo-headset-black

[warm scarab]

3.5 goes into this

also

deltaco

yeah you are better of returning that regardless

[torpid briar]

why

[warm scarab]

really bad

though I have doubts you can get better headphones for 25 pounds

anyhow

you connect the usb c end to your pc

3.5 end to the headset

and it will work

[torpid briar]

Okay, thanks

[warm scarab]

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-♪Hi-Res-Lossless-Headphone-CX31993/dp/B0B5L5ZQBN/

there is also this which has a usb C to usb A adapter with it

and its also slightly more durable

[torpid briar]

Thankyou

[molten lotus]

guys whats a good budget gaming headset?

[warm scarab]

guys what is a headphone

[unique wind]

whatever headphones are they’re low fidelity that’s for sure

[warm scarab]

there's long been ksc75 wireless mods

yeah

donating to an orphanage?

and a pair of utws3

well too bad

[unique wind]

ifi go pod + ksc75

[warm scarab]

go pod looks like a mcdonalds toy

so utws3 instead

[unique wind]

utws3 is budget cope

[steel escarp]

what if any headphone purchase is a distraction for short term satisfaction and gratification to cope with underlying anxiety/irritation only to get you back to feeling unsatisfied after a while. putting you in an endless cycle

and endless cycle of distraction which leads to addiction

the he1000v2 stealth is so good tho

yeah this hobby gonna be the death of me

[warm scarab]

pov grey discovers basic sociology

[unique wind]

grey is fighting level 5 so hard

[haughty girder]

they used a capsule from a CAD ES100, an electret condenser and yes I'm aware.

Issue is that changes nothing

the guy who built that mic had to buy the capsule from CAD themselves

but then he loses the features the ES100 had such as a low cut filter

not saying that building your own mic can be cheaper for better, PC building is popular for this very reason. But you gotta know what you're doing before making those kind of claims

[fleet holly]

i went to a concert on sunday and recorded some videos, but all of the audio is sort of messed up. i assume all of the bass is causing clipping to make it sounds like that. what would be the best way to edit this to make it more bearable or remove the clipping completely?
here's a video clip showing that it's okay at first but then when the bass comes in it gets absolutely wrecked (ignore the video compression, quick and dirty handbrake to fit on discord). the other videos i have sound much worse

what would be the best way to do that in the future? i'm just recording it with my pixel 7 and there doesnt seem to be many audio settings available to me

[haughty girder]

I don't think there's anything you can do anything about it

you'd have to get a mic that has a pad over it

that also looks like a recipe for hearing damage

[fleet holly]

yeah it was quite loud, i made the dumb mistake of leaving my ear plugs at home

[haughty girder]

yea

[fleet holly]

by pad, do you mean a dead cat? i was thinking about jerryrigging some cotton or something on the frontfacing microphone on my phone beforehand

[haughty girder]

deadcat/windsock prevents air from destroying the sound

a pad decreases the SPL (sound pressure level) recorded by the mic

so it won't clip

[fleet holly]

yeah i was a photographer for a concert lats year and i bought ear plugs for that which was a life saver since i was standing right in front of the speakers at the base of the stage lol

[haughty girder]

fuzzy thing that goes on mics to prevent wind noise

you're not preventing wind noise in this case

[warm scarab]

two things happen here

one preamp is not strong enough so it clips

two you don't have any wind protection

you need a windscreen at least

[haughty girder]

it's indoors though? That doesn't sound like wind noise

and yea the preamp either A) Not having enough dynamic range and B) no negative gain or pad for the mic for very loud situations

[warm scarab]

would help a minor amount

in any case with that much pressure going on

[haughty girder]

fair enough yea

[fleet holly]

like a literal foam pad? looking up "microphone pad" didnt bring me any good results

[haughty girder]

first google result for me but https://www.lewitt-audio.com/blog/what-a-pad-microphones

[fleet holly]

ohh i see

[haughty girder]

When you see certain mics like the AKG P220 where they have a switch with -20db or something like that, that's a pad

or many DI boxes also come with a preset pad normally around 10-20db

[fleet holly]

i see, yeah so i guess i would need some sort of external mic in that case?

[haughty girder]

in this case I'm almost certain you're also saturating the max SPL of the mic capsule in your phone, so yes

you'd need an external mic, with a built in pad

it would likely not be cheap though

[fleet holly]

i saw these before, i just assumed they were sort of like those audiophile scams, would be cool if LTT could do a test on them

[fleet holly]

yeah makes sense, i saw rode has a phone microphone, i'm definitely not going to buy one but for future reference, would something like this work? it doesnt seem to have a PAD switch like what you mentioned
https://rode.com/en-us/microphones/mobile/videomic-me-c

i guess this is one of those "just buy an iphone" cases lmao

i'll check them out next time i ever go somewhere loud

[haughty girder]

you'd probably want something with a pad

I'm not familiar with that mic or what its max spl is

but I wouldn't risk spending more money for not fixing the issue

[fleet holly]

yeah, that makes sense

thank you for the help tho

[haughty girder]

115 is normally ok

but I don't know how loud that concert is, tho the loudest one I've ever been hit 120

[fleet holly]

i have no idea either, but i think thats a good enough reference for me to gauge what i would need in the far future

it's interesting seeing how well iphones handle concerts

[haughty girder]

do they do well? I don't run iPhone lol

[fleet holly]

yes

every single iphone video i've seen sounds perfect

[haughty girder]

It's probably due to a superior ADC rather than capsule

but anyway you can give it a shot I guess

nah in this case both devices would definitely be at 0 gain

in which case it's because the pixel didn't have enough dynamic range

and no negative gain

[fleet holly]

is PAD just negative gain?

[haughty girder]

sorta

you could think of it that way yea

actually mostly the same yes

[fleet holly]

is SPL just how loud it is?

[haughty girder]

yes

sound pressure level

[haughty girder]

there's two interpretations of db, SPL is how loud is actually is IRL, FS is digital sound.

so the higher the db SPL, the louder it is to our ears

0 dbfs is the digital maximum sound level recordable

digital clipping is basically just going above 0 dbfs, most people aim for around -12dbfs while streaming and even lower at around -20dbfs while recording

generally when mastering music, that's when you'd boost audio signals to closer to 0dbfs

which is why a mic with low self noise is important when recording, so that you can record low and boost in post without noise

oh there's also db A-weighted which is just db with our ears' (or any other devices') frequency response taken into account

[fleet holly]

ohhh i see, is that why i often see negative dB in editing software

also would covering my phone's microphone with a cotton ball or something else be an effective way to reduce the SPL?

lol tom scott actually just did a video on loudness units
https://youtu.be/Is_wu0VRIqQ

[drowsy blade]

If you could have any one pair of headphones regardless whether or not you have the means to drive them, what would you get?

[silent haven]

susvara

[unique wind]

dan clark audio expanse

(if i have to use them)

if i can just sell whatever i pick then the gold focal utopia that costed like $120k

[warm scarab]

warwick aperio or susvara

[steel escarp]

HD6xx

[lean grove]

Ksc75

[candid marten]

Can anyone help me work out how many ohms this amp I have can run, it is primarily a 120w receiver/speaker amp but it has a PHONES output on the front, trying to figure out how many ohms it can do

[lean grove]

Short answer is there's no easy way to tell. Manufacturers don't list it. Don't expect it to be great cuz if it was they'd advertise it.

But also most headphones need barely any power so if it sounds fine and gets loud enough then don't worry about it.

[candid marten]

@lean grove Thanks heaps

I mean it runs 2, 120w towers just fine so

[lean grove]

That tells you nothing about the headphone amp

Entirely different parts of the system.

The headphone amp in speaker amps or receivers is usually just something really simple.

[candid marten]

Ok

Understood

Thanks

[molten lotus]

What are the best EQ apps on MacOS ?

Free or paid either work, but preferably easy to use and should have most features

[alpine musk]

I received my Truthear Zero Red. I am very pleased with them.
Funny tho - I thought I didn't get the bass booster jack, but it just fell out between my legs xD
I just hated the unboxing...there is a paper box with all the paperwork that is just impossible to get without longer nails. I had to flip it upside down and of course the IEMs are just laying there ready to fall out.
(screenshot from YT)

@unique wind

[unique wind]

awesome man

i use mine for mobile and on my pc

they’re just good for everything

[alpine musk]

I had to re-listen to my favorites 😄

Will play CSGO and Starfield soon with em

[alpine musk]

Does AutoEq make sense? I used app called Wavelet on Android that has for nearly all headphones and IEMs presets that try to achieve better accuracy.
But after some research on EQ and how drivers respond to the changes... I am sceptical about its usefulness.
It made my KZ ZS10 Pro bearable, but I don't think the Zero RED's preset does it justice...

https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pittvandewitt.wavelet

[lean grove]

its free and not magical, so its expected to not make verything better

i find it does a good job at making bad things better

personally i use it to just tune the bass

usually wind up turning everything above 500hz off

[alpine musk]

Interesting... why?

[lean grove]

cuz sometimes harman treble sucks for iems

and sometimes the measurement rig isnt accurate

experiment, turn some filters off,

see what happens when you limit the autoeq to only 3 or 4 parametric eq's, painting in broad strokes

[alpine musk]

I will... It really is a breath of fresh air for me and IEMs.

[unique wind]

i wouldnt bother using eq on reds

theyre nearly perfect out of box

[alpine musk]

They are the first earphones that have different kind of bass. I guess that is thanks to the "subwoofer".

[unique wind]

theyre one of very few iems where the bass shelf starts at like 150hz instead of 250-300hz, which is possible because of the dual driver setup yeah

so the bass is less muddy

[alpine musk]

Thanks for the tip ❤️

[inner warren]

Hey suggest me a multipoint earbuds with a decent price

[warm scarab]

It is varying

not everything responds to it as well as the next item

since there are aspects to an item apart from frequency response

for example an item having distortion in the treble can make it very sibilant while not having a representation in frequency response and when you raise it to match harman it can be painful to listen to

or an driver resettling in its position when playing a low note can be so slow that raising the bass might bottleneck it from responding to other movements

[alpine musk]

I found few posts about distortion and other graphs. I didn't understand it fully, but at least I know for sure that FQ graph is only a small part of the whole picture. Definitely most useful when buying new audio for comparison to the current one...

At the beggining I didn't even look at FQ much... Could have saved few bucks by not upgrading from ZS10 to ZS10 Pro. All KZ seemed to be tuned EXACTLY the same.

[warm scarab]

yeah, its useful for telling whether an item is inherently fucked or not but it doesn't directly tell what is better than another

but the item also matters, for in ears frequency response is a lot more important than headphones and speakers

[alpine musk]

Yep, thanks to you guys here I understand that now.

[alpine musk]

I'm an idiot... I thought it equalizes to make them flat and accurate. That makes sense the Zero REDs hardly sound different as they copy Harman curve out-of-the-box

[unique wind]

my sundaras have some funny business going on in the air frequencies that is brutalizing my eardrums after being used to reds

[lean grove]

Yeah. Flat for iems and headphones doesn't actually exist. You need to designate a target.

Autoeq defaults to Harman

[alpine musk]

But professional headphones usually, no? Maybe lower in bass

[warm scarab]

as in?

[unique wind]

no clue i have no way to measure it

some region in the upper treble is very obviously more emphasized than with my reds

unless it's my ear shape doing it

[warm scarab]

It was a rhetorical question

I just wanted to say "I told you"

[unique wind]

it's not the 6khz distortion

[alpine musk]

They remind me of hearing protection for workers xd

[unique wind]

it's much higher

[warm scarab]

yeah it rings

[unique wind]

nah

[warm scarab]

then measure it to prove it

[unique wind]

buy me a rig

[warm scarab]

also

[unique wind]

real chads do custom ear molds for their measurement rigs

[warm scarab]

wayne left sonic getaway

so all the banned people returned

golden too

its buzzing rn

sharur is also there

[unique wind]

oh the crazy guy left? maybe its worth talking in now

[warm scarab]

it was worth talking anyhow, just not for good advice

[unique wind]

brain burn is slowly kicking in

[warm scarab]

they allow me to say anything so best audio discord

[unique wind]

my ears are coping with whatever treble peak my sundaras have

[warm scarab]

actually bipolar lmao

[unique wind]

nah hes had that opinion before and after he got his setup

[warm scarab]

he defends eq

but then he doesn't

depending on mood

[unique wind]

he uses room eq but not physical room treatment

and doesnt use headphone/iem eq

idk call me insane but i like some room noise with speakers

ill just open that chat since ur active in there rn

[warm scarab]

he doesn't though

how do you eq out distortion and resonance

how do you diffuse audio with eq

[unique wind]

what is bro babbling about

oh i forgot that server thinks measurements and good sound are completely independent

[plush hedge]

the neurons just aren't connecting

[warm scarab]

he is trying to say you can't break laws if physics and make 50$ speakers sound like 5000$ ones with eq

but in the stupidest way you can imagine

[lean grove]

Imagine actually being in AHS

[lean grove]

There are ways that you can make a speaker look like it measures great. So if you do a time gate on-axis frequency response, that's pretty much useless info for anyone with a non-ideal room.

Gotta have the full spin-o-rama or look at off-axis

And this goes for any field. You can present data, make it look exactly how you want, and then say exactly what you need to.

[tepid torrent]

WHAT

That asshole bans me then leaves the server

Fantastic

[warm scarab]

ill ask nyvo to unban you

even sharur is unbanned its certain

[tepid torrent]

Thank you Klaus

Why would wayne leave anyway lmao

[warm scarab]

I don't know or care

[tepid torrent]

Doesnt matter

[warm scarab]

I asked him how to prevent resonance and he told me how to do room eq

lmao

[tepid torrent]

Lmk when im unbanned

[warm scarab]

I am unsure just try joining maybe

[steel escarp]

@unique wind he1000v2 stealth has bass like he1000v1

you might like it

[tepid torrent]

Still banned lmao

[unique wind]

L

[unique wind]

too much moniez for me rn

my next purchases are a living room tv and a vehicle

[steel escarp]

oh yeah no car for me now

xD

[warm scarab]

don't worry ill get you unbanned eventually

just not yet

[tepid torrent]

😳

[unique wind]

i am so disappointed

he really doesnt

[steel escarp]

holy shit

he1000v2 stealth cable is long enough to

allow me to lay down in my bed

its like 3m

time to pass out in he1kv2s

[unborn gale]

STAX cables be like

[dusky linden]

@tepid torrent @warm scarab@lean grove here to contribute to the erasure of bad advice

I remember I joined like 3y ago and the server was dead af

seems a lot more active

[tepid torrent]

Sup bro

[warm scarab]

who are you

[dusky linden]

😭

[tepid torrent]

This server is about as lofi as it gets so idk

[warm scarab]

this tbh

[dusky linden]

techsource looks a lot worse

[warm scarab]

i got banned from there

its a shitshow

[tepid torrent]

Techsource is just Audio Metropolis stuffed into a single channel so yea

[warm scarab]

but i got banned for discussing politics to be fair

[warm scarab]

who owns AM again

chill?

[tepid torrent]

Probably

Cringe objectivists L

[dusky linden]

I spent a grand total of 40m doing htl and I'm going to continue

[unique wind]

objectivists stay winning

[dusky linden]

the only hard one is peaks and dips and I got to level 7 with 0 practice in like 45 trials or something

I don't think that's horrible

I haven't done it since (2 days ago)

[unique wind]

im level 13 on that program

[warm scarab]

I am level 50

[dusky linden]

I find it's a lot easier with my iems which I'm more used to

initially started with HD600

[warm scarab]

how does stax do

[dusky linden]

idk I didn't try

[tepid torrent]

I want to try a vintage stax headphone bruh

[warm scarab]

:/

[lean grove]

its literally just six of us

[tepid torrent]

Yea theres no one here lmao

Desert type shit

[dusky linden]

I currently have a 404 sig on my head and I just noticed that I am coincidentally listening to a track that is 4:04 long

[warm scarab]

occasionally some guy will ask about headsets

and we will be smartasses about the subject for 20 minutes

[lean grove]

nominally we're *Right below * hifi but klaus single handidly brings us down by 5 standard deviations

[warm scarab]

or this

[warm scarab]

being us 5 levels down the ice berg hell yeah

[tepid torrent]

Only time this channel isnt lofi is when we arent talking bruh

[unique wind]

im level 7.5 on the iceberg

klaus is like level 2

maybe 3

[warm scarab]

asr iceberg

[unique wind]

asr users are level 7

[dusky linden]

ie600 isn't even that bad
the bass is pretty decent but I just don't like the treble or fit

[lean grove]

yes and when those letters say you're in the 10th percentile that means you're in the top 10%

[tepid torrent]

Me when the moment

[warm scarab]

I am in top

literally

[unique wind]

as soon as you start talking about dacs having tonality this chat immediately becomes lofi

[lean grove]

dacs do have tonality

[dusky linden]

I've seen a lot of people that liked the fit because it's pretty small
I just dislike the fit of everything in the series

[warm scarab]

yeah when you put 20 pcm filters into something the sound tends to change

[warm scarab]

that's what she said

[dusky linden]

I typically deep fit with smallest size tips
on ie series I get way too much pressure but if I use larger tips I don't get a proper seal lol

[warm scarab]

also what she said

[dusky linden]

and I normally prefer a bit of pressure

[unique wind]

she has also said that before

[tepid torrent]

Klaus am I unbanned yet

[warm scarab]

no

ill tell you when you are

[unique wind]

i asked when admins were in chat and i was ignored

[dusky linden]

from sg?

[warm scarab]

admins dont like me a lot generally

[tepid torrent]

W

[unique wind]

no reply sad

[dusky linden]

I just asked someone to unban

[unique wind]

klaus has asked twice also

[warm scarab]

nyvo said its enough random unbans for the day

remind me tomorrow

[unique wind]

idk how ud get banned in there anyway

[warm scarab]

i think they dislike the fact you trash talk sg in every other server heli

[unique wind]

klaus has been saying some horrific things all day

[warm scarab]

being normal is what gets you banned generally

at least under waynes jurisdiction

needles to say I was in a position of honor always

do you know of hphq

[tepid torrent]

Maybe they can imagine why it might be warranted

Just a little

yknow

Its not like they dont shit on other servers either lmao

[tepid torrent]

Hol up

Real Humble

?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[tepid torrent]

Or is that an imposter

[warm scarab]

humble has been long in sg

and audio hub

[tepid torrent]

Im aware

[tepid torrent]

tf is that

[warm scarab]

some server abandoned by the owner

[lean grove]

humble is mod in SG?

[tepid torrent]

Dont remember humble having that pfp lmao

[warm scarab]

to be transformed into one where one of the mods made categories exclusive to anime fans

[dusky linden]

@tepid torrent you were unbanned

[warm scarab]

then gets a discord ban and bans wayne for using his real name and then gets abandoned for all of eternity only to be succumbed to techsource tier people

it used to be a cool server too

[unique wind]

no just a regular member

[warm scarab]

wait isn't humble mod

[unique wind]

no

[warm scarab]

he might have gotten demoted I feel like he was a mod at some point

might be confusing it with audio hub

why the fuck is humble a mod in every other audio discord

[tepid torrent]

Because humble is cool

[unborn gale]

probably because they see him as a mod in every other discord

so it's a "good" bet

[warm scarab]

I have seen him post anything like ten times maybe

[tepid torrent]

Do I get a special role for being banned from sg

[warm scarab]

I did but I wasn't banned

[dusky linden]

the role is to just tell them who was banned before so if they ever change their mind everyone unbanned will just disappear

[tepid torrent]

Epic

Awesome

I want it

[molten lotus]

hey i was looking for new pair of iems around a $100 bc my other ones broke what is your best suggestions. ps I mainly listen to the heaviest metal you can find if that matters idrk

ty in advance

[paper wasp]

Not a bad set up for noe

Now

[unreal tree]

how do i shop for cheap bluetooth speaker without wasting my money on a pile of rubbish?

[quiet ether]

lmao

[warm scarab]

very bad

[lean grove]

Try to stick to reputable brands and lower your expectations.

Try and find something not totally undersized and not totally cheap. Something like the u.e. wonderboom is pretty good but still struggles with bass.

[acoustic ravine]

My wife has fairly small ears, but she uses IEMs for playing bass with a rock band (guitar, drums, keys, vocals, the whole thing). She liked the MEE Audio M6 Pros, but they broke after a while. The Etymotic EX2XRs were not a good shape for her and kept falling out, and they broke after about a month.

We were looking at both the Moondrop Aria and the Moondrop Starfield. Are those ones decent quality? Trying to keep it around $100 or so.

[lean grove]

Truthear are the latest meme. Truthear hola and truthear zero:red.

They come with like, 6 or 7 pairs of tips for you to try out so if that doesn't fit her idk what will.

Has she tried memory foam tips?

[acoustic ravine]

Yeah, as they expand, they just push back out of her ear

[lean grove]

Rip.

She might need smaller ones.

Cuz if they're falling out they're probably too big.

And in the future she should look into custom iems. They can be really expensive but they will fit perfectly every time.

[acoustic ravine]

She doesn't use them often enough for that to be worth it, maybe once every month or two

We'll look into the Truthear stuff...it's cheaper than the Starfield and Aria at least, so might be worth a shot

The Hexas look horrendously uncomfortable, geez

[unique wind]

do not get arias if she has small ears

as an owner of both aria and truthear red, red sounds better, can play louder, and is more comfortable while costing less

same they dug into my ears and they were heavy metal with sharp corners

[lean grove]

He's too busy talking to his girlfriend

[acoustic ravine]

Alright, I'll try out the Truthear Red then, and see if that works for her. Price is much more palatable than the Starfield

Thanks, I'll look into these as well!

[unique wind]

his roster of hoes

[steel escarp]

is it just me or do harman vocals get too hot when there is a 100-300Hz elevation above harman neutral
and the upper mid range adheres to harman

[steel escarp]

man fuck the harman target

[unique wind]

i get annoyed if 150-300hz is lifted because it makes voices sound like sm7b

@steel escarp are you gonna rejoin SG

it’s been popping past couple days

[steel escarp]

popping?

I got banned

by wayne

[unique wind]

yah they’re unbanning people

wayne left

[steel escarp]

for real?

who is admin now

nyvo

?

[unique wind]

ya

[lean grove]

He left his own server? 💀

[unique wind]

mhm

idk the specifics why i only became active like 2 days ago

golden and klaus and heli and sharur are all in there again

[steel escarp]

I am gonna get unbanned

finally

🙏

lmao sharur is in there

my mate who thinks closer to harman frequency response = more detail

[unique wind]

@steel escarp you were unbanned like

[steel escarp]

I DMed the appropriate people

[unique wind]

10 days ago

[steel escarp]

I was?

[unique wind]

lmao

[steel escarp]

unable to accept the invite

nyvo tried to but it didn't work via the bot

I dont think I was banned via the bot

[unique wind]

oh

@steel escarp did you ever join on an alt and have that get banned too by chance

if so your IP will still be banned until that alt is unbanned as well

[steel escarp]

nyvo sent this

no bans

[unique wind]

oh like literally nobody is banned

wild

[lean grove]

Grey just has the worst luck

Legit I don't think I can remember anything going perfect for him

[lethal kernel]

anyone here that has experience with Behringer interfaces? more specifically the UM2, UMC22 and UMC202

[unique wind]

he’s exempt from being content

there must always be an issue somewhere in the chain

[lethal kernel]

im gonna be buying some Beyerdynamic DT 990 pro 250 ohm, and an xlr mic, and i was going to get the UM2, but i have read that the UM2 and UMC22 arent that great

[lean grove]

They're not good but they're also cheap. So you're getting what you're paying for

They're not the worst though

[lethal kernel]

yea i know that

but i have read that specifically the um2 and umc22 have no drivers or something

or they use the aiso all or what its called

[lean grove]

Neither of those are bad things?

[lethal kernel]

well im gonna use it for music production

[lean grove]

You might have better luck asking in the podcastage discord they know more about this kind of stuff for actual production

I think the m-track solo is the default recc for entry interfaces tho

[lethal kernel]

i read that i should stay away from m audio

multiple people said that

[lean grove]

People say a lot of things

Check out that podcastage discord

This channel doesn't have anyone that actually knows anything about music production

[warm scarab]

which is a good thing

oh aiso

m track solo then

[lethal kernel]

hmm

[warm scarab]

if an interface doesn't use generic drivers and is just a basic interface

that can be a red flag

[lethal kernel]

yea

im gonna try buying that one, and see if i have any problems with it, and if i do ill return it or something.

[warm scarab]

doubt it will come to that

also

rather than dt990, go for the dt880 instead

its a direct upgrade

[lethal kernel]

for mixing and mastering?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[lethal kernel]

they are more expensive tho

[warm scarab]

its the same headphone but one has more neutral bass

hmm

well, up to you

[lethal kernel]

im probably gonna get the 990

[warm scarab]

well I am just telling you 880 is better, your choice

[dusty sigil]

Anyone have any experience plugging using the light blue line in on a audio IO on a PC?

I've plugged in an audio mixer into it, the device is recognised on the Sound settings, and the mixer is outputting audio, but nothing is being received - no green bars indicating anything.

My pink mic and lime line out are both working fine so I assume my Audio IO is fine. I've never used the light blue jack before so I'm not sure if I am maybe missing something in settings??? Thanks!

[viral arrow]

Best gaming headphone with Bluetooth and dolby?

[buoyant vale]

Mark Levinson 5909

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell

[warm scarab]

m16

[half fog]

got an edition XS and now understanding the reviews about how stupidly wide the headband is

[steel escarp]

@tepid torrent everyone is unbanned from sg

if you cant join try using a vpn

[half fog]

not sure if something like this would fit the egg shape drivers

[steel escarp]

dont think so

[half fog]

they fit with a gap between my head even on tightest headband position had to bend the shit out of the yokes to make them fit correctly

https://imgur.com/LgNxqyn

bent them almost straight

but i know that this type of hifiman headband has longevity issues with the dots for the position settings wearing through or loosening

didnt feel like spending 800+ on arya even refurb or open box type just to avoid headband

or ananda

probably good enough for now since they are fighting with some clamping force atleast

fitting*

did have to FIGHT the stupid metal to make it bend though

atleast they sound good

warmer sound than my HE 560v4 and requires less power to drive I think

way better sub bass extension

[steel escarp]

my xs has had 0 issues

[weak rapids]

limelite going for just $40 right now, quite insane https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1676647-REG/512_audio_512_llt_limelight_vocal_dynamic_hypercard_xlr.html

[lean grove]

Is it

[weak rapids]

Yes

[warm scarab]

is it

[half fog]

hifiman committing warcrimes with their stock cables

already had right driver start to cut in and out

swap cable with some 20 dollar amazon one and its fine

[warm scarab]

wow haven't heard a complain from hitiman cables since like two years back

[half fog]

I have yet to see a hifiman 3.5mm splitter cable last more than a few months

[warm scarab]

I thought everyone now took it as a given to buy different cables with any of their items

[half fog]

this one started going in less than 2 hours

was worried the stupid driver was going since they are a refurb

[warm scarab]

I just cut mine apart because it had a cool L shaped end

[half fog]

99% sure its the cable

i remember cutting one open I think and it was ultra thin wiregauge

almost IEM or 5 dollar headphone level

[cold token]

hey guys, I just wanted to enquire about these speakers

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B089KMM3B6/ref=pd_lpo_sccl_1/259-4467848-4053310?pd_rd_w=eRH2b&content-id=amzn1.sym.efc89c20-c5a9-4620-b6cd-2f4e51bac956&pf_rd_p=efc89c20-c5a9-4620-b6cd-2f4e51bac956&pf_rd_r=6CVQ7GZ5DDCF830DS7DF&pd_rd_wg=p9nDP&pd_rd_r=f685a3e3-6861-4cc9-ae4c-daac196afb3c&pd_rd_i=B089KMM3B6&psc=1

I've seen some YT vids recommend this but I wanted other's opinions before considering these

[lean grove]

they're one of the best options at ~$100

klipsch promedia are the other good option

[cold token]

any specific model?

[lean grove]

klipsch promedia 2.1, the non-heritage. they range from $70-$120, try and find t hem for under $100.

idk if there's much of a difference between the thx and non thx version

[upper moss]

anyone know what the Sku would be for something that this connector https://hosatech.com/products/analog-audio/connectors/phx-300f-bulk/ Plugs into?

attempting to jerry rig something together at work but I can't for the life of me find the receptacle end of this connector

[unborn gale]

https://www.amazon.com/phoenix-connector-3-pin/s?k=phoenix+connector+3+pin

I mean the name is in the description

and since it's the female version, could just search the male version

[upper moss]

I did that and it gave me nothing.

like there is this cable here

but I want just the little receving boot on the end

[unborn gale]

like these?

[upper moss]

that might be it. will probably just end up looking a bit closer at the connector at work tomorrow and ordering a few different versions so I can what works best. thanks for the assistance

[wheat moss]

why tf does this exist

and jeez, seeing that rubbish hosa xlr connector has reminded my of years of pain

[upper moss]

I think its just meant to be a more compact form of XLR for enterprise conference audio routing systems. having to deal with it due to these guys https://www.crestron.com/

[wheat moss]

only time I've had to deal with terminal blocks was the back of a BSS box

[upper moss]

one of our rooms was built for a single purpose. easy to use in person conference room.

we now use it for more then that and well we don't want to pay Crestron like $1200 to just come out and reconfigure the system via their propritary software so we are doing some jank to get around it but still keep the system function for normal users

[wheat moss]

some fuckwit used a piece of DMX cable to connect one of the wireless mic recievers to it

so I had to replace it

Proprietary stuff SUCKS

it's also often shit compared to what you could "diy"

[upper moss]

I mean the Crestron system is great for what its configured for. just if you want it to do literally anything else its a call to their service team and a bare minimum $1K charge to get things reconfigured

I could probably replace the system with an ATEM constellation and Berhinger XR 18 all hooked up to an android tablet and a stream deck but that would confuse end users and probably end up with more downtime due to needing to involve a computer in the mix

I think this is the Video matrix https://www.crestron.com/Products/Video/DigitalMedia-Modular-Matrix/Switcher-Chassis/DM-MD8X8-CPU3

and this might be the audio Signal Processor https://www.crestron.com/Products/Audio/Audio-Processors/Digital-Signal-Processors/DSP-860

[upper moss]

seems Crestron likes the 3.5mm terminal blocks which are a bit harder to find nice quality versions of. but this is probably as close as I will get https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-AC300V-Terminal-Blocks-Connectors/dp/B00R1J5YT0

[tame jay]

What version of airpods is best value for money? Only going to use them on the commute to college

[warm scarab]

the only version worth buying is the pros so

the rest is very awful, especially for commute

[dusky linden]

pro 1 or pro 2

normal ones and max are fairly mediocre

like what the other dude said

[warm scarab]

after everything we've been through

[tame jay]

Is there any other ear buds you’d recommend instead

That’s not Apple

[warm scarab]

I am "the other dude"

I thought better of you styllar

I guess it was just me

[dusky linden]

are you ios or android

[dusky linden]

well

how am I meant to refer to you

[warm scarab]

shut up style

r

[tame jay]

iOS

[dusky linden]

why would you not get airpods pros

that's the best one for ios

[warm scarab]

too expensive probably

get galaxy buds alternatively

[tame jay]

I was just asking if you’d recommend anything else

[warm scarab]

they are pretty good

unless you want to pay less I don't think there are any real alternatives

[dusky linden]

the answer is no unless you are strictly confined by a budget that does not allow you to get airpod pros

[nova wagon]

nope
the pros is the best from the whole apple audio products lineup

and ngl, the extra creature comfort features make sense when you are in the apple ecosystem

[tame jay]

I want to spend under £200

[dusky linden]

using galaxy buds on ios is cursed because the app is non-functional

it's just not ideal

[warm scarab]

wait galaxy buds don't have aac?

aint no way

[dusky linden]

oh wait does it support it

[warm scarab]

everything supports aac I am fairly certain

[dusky linden]

oh yah it does

[nova wagon]

airpods pro 1 then

[dusky linden]

airpod pros can go within that range on sales, but it seems like you don't want to wait

[warm scarab]

I don't use apple so I can't recommend well compatible items really

[dusky linden]

^

[dusky linden]

their budget doesn't force them to get moondrop sparks or something so it's fine

[warm scarab]

i think the new 20$ moondrop tws may be better than sparks

[dusky linden]

space travel?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[dusky linden]

it doesn't have a lid

a lot of people find it pretty lame

I wonder if you could just 3d print one

probably could

[nova wagon]

they did just announce a leather box for it

[dusky linden]

did they

anyways, I would imagine nekocake is an easier choice over it just cause of case lmao

[nova wagon]

https://fxtwitter.com/MoondropLab/status/1699078744843895026?s=20

[tame jay]

I’ll have a look where I can find pro 1s

[warm scarab]

nekocake has a firmware that gives it an anime voice

and looks like shit

prior can be a pro but latter is cringe af

looks like a mcdonalds toy

[nova wagon]

yea, hence box

[warm scarab]

wait space travel has anc?

bruh

[nova wagon]

yep

i would imagine it being pretty weak tho

[warm scarab]

definitely

[dusky linden]

apparently it's shit

[warm scarab]

but for 20$

really impressive

[dusky linden]

but better than nothing

[warm scarab]

probably not better than nothing

i doubt people would use it if it is as bad as nekocakes

[nova wagon]

its prob gonna boost the high freq and does nothing to the low freq

[dusky linden]

saw someone say it cut out their fan noise by a decent margin

[warm scarab]

yeah but it generally ruins the sound

at least did in nekocakes

[dusky linden]

maybe

I don't have one for reference

nor would I buy one

[nova wagon]

meanwhile
https://fxtwitter.com/TruthearLab/status/1699716599685493116?s=20

bruh

[unique wind]

truthgoat

goatear

[turbid grove]

ELI5

[alpine musk]

Am I crazy that the Truthear Zero RED sound better than Sony WF-1000XM4 buds? Especially in details when there is bass...

Also which should I select...?

[lean grove]

You're not crazy. Mainstream consumer audio stuff is almost never any good.

Also for that, it doesn't matter too much. If you put it too high you might run into problems with compatibility.

So keep it at 48khz 24bit

There's no reason to go higher if you're not listening to music which specifically can take advantage of higher bit rates

[alpine musk]

But like 50$ vs 250$ lol 😄 Rule of thumb about wireless stuff is 2x the price of wired and still...
I would hope it's at least on-par.

I lowered my PC38X connected via Audient EVO 4, too.

IEMs go through my front IO

Welp, if I'll be able to find good enough eartips that I won't need ANC, I will ditch the Sony buds...

[warm scarab]

triple flange tips have the best isolation

but you need like a week or two of adjustment period for them

they have a brutal insertion

[molten lotus]

hey, my friend has this ancient device and he wants to use it with windows 11 as a start is this what he needs https://a.co/d/iDS2qrD ?

[alpine musk]

Holdup I have those somewhere 😄
But some basic thin silicone ones from China

[warm scarab]

thats fine really

all my eartips are generalized shit

[alpine musk]

[alpine musk]

Have you ever tried those silicone with foam in the inner?

Benefits of foam tips and they dotn get dirty overtime. However they are more slippery than foam tips of course

[warm scarab]

I haven't actually

might be good

but definitely not triple flange good

that is just wearing 3 eartips

at once

[warm scarab]

die muzik

[dusky linden]

I have symbio w's and sony ep-exn50

all it pretty much does is make the tip stiffer

it's a gimmick

[alpine musk]

Only cool feature besides wireless connectivity is the ANC

[alpine musk]

the eartips that came with the REDs have smaller and bigger nozzle... Reason?
3 sizes in two different nozzle sizes.

Yea, but same as with music control...you can buy a cable with mic and button for IEMs. Granted the mic will be meh and no noise cancellation.

[warm scarab]

nozzle or tip size?

[alpine musk]

Oh, nope...
One feature is extra cool and why I upgraded from XM3.
Speak-to-Chat I believe it's called. When I start speaking the music pauses and switches to transparencz mode (i can hear outside world)

[warm scarab]

brother in christ

its different sizes for your ear size

oh the nozzle

[alpine musk]

Yes 😛

[warm scarab]

sound difference

basically

[alpine musk]

Aaaah

interesting

[alpine musk]

My fingers fcking hurt, but I managed to fit the triple flange eartips on the Zero REDs.
They are stable af and isolation is very good, but the feeling is weird xd

[warm scarab]

yea it will hurt your ears too

you will have to get used to it

[alpine musk]

I hope it isn't damaging. If I don't move I literally feel my pulse xd

[warm scarab]

its fine

generally

nah those generally globally hurt

[alpine musk]

It don't hurt... It's just weird feeling as they do stick out more than any other eartip I have.

[lean grove]

Which triple flange tips are these

[cold token]

hey guys, can someone explain the difference between a dac and an amp?

[warm scarab]

one makes information into sound, other makes it strong enough to put into headphones or speakers

depending on item they can be a small chip or even built into your headphones or speakers

[cold token]

so how do I decide what's right for me? (sorry for the time wasting questions)

[warm scarab]

you need both a dac and an amplifier

but your motherboard can stand in for a dac

there is also all in one units

yeah

[unborn gale]

$3000 dac better

if you argue with me, I'll throw it at you

[warm scarab]

I legit have no need for a measurebator dac apart from apple dongle

thank god I am not one so I can throw away more money

[cold token]

so I'm gonna try not to sound extremely stupid here and not embarrass my self but It is better to get an AMP first over a DAC correct? (even though you need both)

[warm scarab]

I can say that a good amplifier matters more than a dac yes

you can get something very cheap to stand in as a dac but unless you are blowing serious money I wouldn't be too concerned with a dac until you have like a 100-300$ to spend on one

[unborn gale]

Headphones > Amp > DAC

[warm scarab]

this yeah

[unborn gale]

Going from an E10K to an Asgard 3 doesn't make as much of a difference as going from a Koss to a Hifiman Arya

like upgrading your headphone will also improve quality of life more such as comfort, looks and durability

[cold token]

do u have any recommendations for a combo?

[warm scarab]

a budget would help

and location

[cold token]

lets say around 150 euros (ireland) and if i cant get a combo then lets go for an AMP

[warm scarab]

you can get a zen air dac

combo unit

despite being named dac

it has a weak amplifier output but the dac is decent quality and so is the amplifier output

you can use it as a standalone dac when you upgrade to a better amplifier

[unborn gale]

How does it compare to the normal version?

Been wondering how the air line is

[warm scarab]

same

v2 just has a balanced output

[unborn gale]

Oh

[alpine musk]

Ordered it 5 years ago, the link is dead

[sinful wasp]

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