audio-tech

[near crater]

Okay I will check them out thanks guys!

All good! I meant headphones anyway for some reason I typed headset even though I have a standalone mic

[unique wind]

$3600 btw lmao

(empire ears raven)

for only $3600 you can get fucked up mids and a bass shelf starting at 300hz!

these summitfi iems literally exist solely to scam rich people but hey it's funny

man you can get danclark stealths for basically the same price

[steel escarp]

Lmao shit

[lean grove]

F in chat for Michael. Too poor to afford $3600 headphones

Doesn't know that frequency response can't tell you anything about how a headphone sounds

[warm scarab]

he thinks frequencies are real

[lean grove]

Instead has to stare at a single inaccurate sketti noodle to experience hifi

[unique wind]

im gonna become that guy who eats ketchup to afford $5000 cables

[warm scarab]

and then destroy them afterwards

[unique wind]

hes a very interesting and based guy

[warm scarab]

he is schizophrenic michael

[unique wind]

yeah but its very entertaining

[warm scarab]

fair

[unique wind]

fuck you ill buy stealth rn

if i actually liked headphones i wouldnt have a problem with it

i should look at their other stuff i never have

okay expanse is also cool

[steel escarp]

Arya Organic arrived at the local dealer

Hopefully not sound out before Friday when I have time to demo

[unique wind]

arya stealth but with wood accents and lower impedance

+$400

so pretty tho

[steel escarp]

Its cheaper than stealth

[unique wind]

new yeah i grabbed the $400 from comparing it to an openbox or refurb stealth from hifiman's site

lunchbreak over :(

[steel escarp]

:<

[unique wind]

i wont be surprised if u still prefer XS since you dont like suspension straps anyway but im keen to hear what you have to say after the demo

[warm scarab]

just get anandas then

[dry peak]

I've been using the SHP9500 too for like 10 years now (don't remember when I bought them) and their sound is just perfect and they are comfy af

But sadly the cable or the jack took a hit which is why I was looking for a new pair, probably could just replace the cable (hoping) and I replaced the pads last month since the original ones reached their end

They made me appreciate open headphones

[lean grove]

Just keep in mind that anything can sound good if you haven't heard better.

I used to stan the shp9500 but its on par and even kinda gets beat by something like the ksc75 in terms of audio quality.

[dry peak]

Well that also depends on what kind of music you listen to

[lean grove]

Kinda yeah kinda no. Objectively good headphones will be good for every genre. There's cases where the mastering isn't good and that's no fault of the headphones.

If a headphone is good for one thing, and all you need is that one thing then that's fine. But I'd hesitate to recommend it to anyone because why settle for less.

The shp9500 is good enough for gaming because gaming isn't a high bar. It's cheap, it's comfy, it's open.

But that's really all I can compliment it on.

[warm scarab]

unless your songs aren't particularly badly mastered, not really

[molten lotus]

It's gonna be hard for me to ever go away from SHPs just from a comfort with glasses perspective. Maybe there's something out there as comfy with better sound

I will say I have replaced my cable lile 5x in 3 years lol

But I have a USB switch on my DAC so its listening, gaming, and work, so sees a lot of use

[lean grove]

The dt880 is pretty resilient to glasses and has good comfort

[unique wind]

i want a FAT and decently long 2pin iem cable for no reason other than aesthetics

[unique wind]

an obnoxiously thick one

[buoyant vale]

@past gate would make you one I'm sure

[past gate]

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[buoyant vale]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-we-all-did-obi-wan-kenobi-series-ewan-mcgregor-gif-25857927

[unique wind]

i did not thankfully

[rain root]

So for my new living room. I want to setup a nice convenient sound system. My options are as such:

• Sonos Arc + Sub Gen 3 + 2 Sonos SL One
• Sony HT-A7000 + 200W Sony Subwoofer + 2 SA-RS3
• Samsung Q990C + Subwoofer + Rear Speakers

Not sure which sound good, which are better value for money and which I should get.

[clear sedge]

anyone got any recommendations on gear to send an unbalanced stereo TRS signal over a long distance with converting to balanced then back into a TRS connection, for getting audio from a mixer to a headset at significant distance? Downmixing to mono is acceptable, preferred even. Need to get an output from an analog mixers quarter inch socket over a substantial distance to a commentators headset.

[warm scarab]

ask in sonic visions discord instead

people here are generally more about headphones than speakers

[rain root]

could u send me a link? thanks

[inland bobcat]

Old junk in storage

[tender frost]

Wonderful
Anyone have any $50 or under IEM/earbud recommendations, where the weird bit is specifically not having a detachable cable?

[nova wagon]

the chu 1?

moondrop chu 1

[tender frost]

Oh neat

[shut parcel]

what's a good pair of wireless headphones that are under $150?

[dry stratus]

aren't they gonna kill em for asking about a soundbar?

[still rampart]

My HD 8xx is comfy af

[warm scarab]

wait soundbar?

[dry stratus]

All that he said are soundbars

[warm scarab]

💀

[dry stratus]

Wireless rear speakers

And a sub

That is what he asked about

[dry stratus]

They gonna kill him

[warm scarab]

survival of the fittest

[white rampart]

I don't know how other people test their speakers/headphones, but I typically use the THX Deep Note Genesis trailer to test mine. How do you guys go about it?

[molten lotus]

A song I know like the back of my hand

[white rampart]

Nice, what song?

[steel escarp]

Ima be so sad if I arrive at the dealership friday and the arya organic is sold out

[molten lotus]

Pink Floyd’s The Trial, Daft Punk’s Something About Us, Magdalena Bay’s The Beginning, and if I really hate myself Taylor Swift’s All Too Well (10 minute)

My partner will usually listen to some version of Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich

What matters is you listen to something you know very, very well. A new song is gonna sound like a new song regardless

[unique wind]

@molten lotus i was using reds with the adapter and the foam eartips last night and i couldn’t get over how thick and addicting they sounded

[molten lotus]

quick question, does anyone know of a program for ading "high cut" to certain speakers?

[molten lotus]

That looks in some ways so similar to the SHPs... bet SHP ripped off Sennheiser

[still rampart]

No idea but there's only so many ways you can design a headphone

[dry stratus]

rip 8xx and its messed up sound

[unique wind]

8xx must’ve been co developed by hifiman

with that absolute crater in the ear gain

someone needs to copy the acoustic material tuning that dan clark uses and make something similar to the expanse but at like $1600 instead of $4000

a company that could afford to make less profit margin than dan

[dry stratus]

not audeze?

[unique wind]

nah

audeze makes flat line headphones

8xx at least has upper treble, it just has an ear gain crater

[lean grove]

Soundstage

[still rampart]

Every single person who's tried my 8xx has agreed, they don't sound very good stock lol

I've been thinking of doing the sticker mod but I'm also lazy

[unique wind]

the negative ear gain causes the vocal to fall into the background of the mix giving the illusion of soundstage but in my opinion it sounds unnatural

and kind of annoying tbh

a slight recess like found on sundara and qkz x hbb khan is okay but i still prefer full harman ear gain

i would take 600 or 6xx over any 800 series any day if i wasn’t allowed to use eq

[dry stratus]

I still prefer HE6

[dry stratus]

I would get a used hd800 for orchestral, but at full price?
arya over 800 any day

used 800 can be found for 550-650 here at times

[unique wind]

are aryas similarly priced?

[dry stratus]

I mean, both are in the mid 1000s here at full price

[unique wind]

in the us on the hifiman store you can get v2s for $700 and v3 stealths for $800 open box or refurb

[dry stratus]

used HD800 is pretty insane.. seen some for 450

[unique wind]

i imagine actually used would be a little less but i haven’t looked

[dry stratus]

but never had the money to grab a used 800

I just see it and look at my wallet

[still rampart]

Otoh the 8xx responds really well to eq

[dry stratus]

I should try some newer headphones, try to find something around 800-1600 that I can like as much as like he6

[still rampart]

My 6xx, no matter the eq, just sounds like the 6xx

[dry stratus]

don't all 800s respond well?

[still rampart]

Yeah

[still rampart]

So makes this kinda moot

[dry stratus]

6x0 (excluding 660s) for piano/acoustic guitar is nice

[still rampart]

Haven't tried 660s, but guitars sound super smooth on the 6xx

Why would the 660s be any different? Thought it just had better imaging

[dry stratus]

660s is just a tin can

[unique wind]

if i made like $45k/y instead of $28k/year i would probably buy expanse

[still rampart]

What does that mean

[dry stratus]

uses HD700 driver, which was insanely metallic

hated it

sounded to much like I was listening to some metal drums

[unique wind]

660s has fucked up treble idk what happened with it

[still rampart]

Interesting

[unique wind]

downgrade all around from 600 and 6xx/650 from what i can see

[dry stratus]

660s usually isn't even considered 6x0 anyway..

[unique wind]

i don’t see why anyone would buy it

[dry stratus]

because they want a 6x0 without the 6x0 sound

for 2x the price

[still rampart]

Lol

Are any 6x0 worth buying if the 6xx exists? Everything else seems like a bad deal

[unique wind]

as it is you pay almost double to go from 6xx to 600 and all you get is slightly better upper treble

[dry stratus]

yes, because of import

[unique wind]

like yeah 600 is better but it’s literally just the slightly better upper treble extension

[still rampart]

Oh yeah I forgot there are non American consumers

[dry stratus]

lel

[unique wind]

for almost twice as much

[dry stratus]

american forgets america isn't the only place on earth #5985093757930

[alpine musk]

Hello,
can I get some recommendations on IEMs ideally sub-200$? The lower the better.
As I transitioned to TWS ANC earbuds, I only kept up with my KZ ZS10 Pro and they are treble-paradise.
Primarly competitive gaming (CSGO) and second is music.

If possible some eye-candy... Like Moondrop KATO, Moondrop KXXS, Tin Audio T series... I like transparent ones, too, but they are budget most of the time and don't look that appealing in real life.

Thanks

[buoyant vale]

"treble-paradise"

[alpine musk]

That's a con, not a pro. I hate it

[buoyant vale]

yeah KZ can't tune an IEM for shit

[nova wagon]

Hmm
Truthear zero blue I guess?

[alpine musk]

I had to install EqAPO so AK-47 in CSGO wouldn't make me deaf

[nova wagon]

Hyped up quite a bit by gaming peripherals reviewers

[alpine musk]

That's 55$, way below my budget. I don't mind saving some money... But I have to look if it's any upgrade above the ZS10 Pro

[buoyant vale]

almost everything truthear makes will slap anything KZ makes

[nova wagon]

I would say that it's an upgrade on anything kz
Im using a moondrop aria myself, it's pretty fine for competitive gaming.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe5kg74M7JA89aON_iM2ezsylxPNEE9tG&si=KzEo9eihUyfcHh3l

This guy did a lot of iem reviews that specifically talk about gaming aspect, might be useful for you?

[alpine musk]

I like the playlist name 😄

[nova wagon]

Although the way he describe subjective things is not really clear imo

[alpine musk]

Moondrop does make good looking IEMs... From outside and inside.
I just remember getting slapped for trying to buy KXXS. I just wanted them for the looks and was told they suck

[nova wagon]

Prob in context of the starfield and then aria

Which is basically the kxxx/kxxs but cheaper

Like they are good iems

[alpine musk]

I don't want earbuds "made for gaming". I might fall in love with them and ditch my TWS Sony...

[nova wagon]

The price is ehhh because of the refinement options being cheaper

[alpine musk]

because of the refinement options being cheaper
Sorry, I don't understand.

[dry stratus]

a he1000se used price:

[alpine musk]

And do Tin Audio or FiiO make good IEMs in general?

[alpine musk]

That's more than most people do in a year in my country...

[nova wagon]

Basically the starfield and the aria made the kxxs a bad value product. They do what the kxxs did but at a cheaper price

[unique wind]

the thing with in ear monitors is that 95% of their performance is determined by tuning and distortion, and price doesn’t correlate to much

[alpine musk]

Ooooh, wait what?
But I would expect that I am paying for all that R&D and engineering of the housing and the tuning...

[unique wind]

you’d hope so but no not really

truthear zero red are some of the best tuned iems on the planet and they’re $55

tangzu zetian wu at $150 are good if you want a tastefully bass and treble boosted iem

i own both and love both but i use my reds as my daily driver

[alpine musk]

I am stunned

[unique wind]

iems are very small and only interact with your inner ear canal so they peak at a much lower price point than headphones do

they’re much easier to make and have much less material cost

you don’t really unlock some magical detail retrieval or technicalities by spending more money

[alpine musk]

Interesting. I just wanted to ask for ranking/comparison...

[unique wind]

the main thing you get when upgrading from $55 reds to $500+ triple driver iems is better upper treble extension because of their electrostatic drivers, but it’s a small improvement for paying 10x+ more money, especially if you’re not a well trained listener

[alpine musk]

Considering I wanted 200$. I could pickup both and then decide which to keep and which to flip or gift.

[alpine musk]

...how to make audiophile angry:
"Then why buy headphones "

[alpine musk]

hahaha xddd

Okay then, so the eyecandy checkbox I added is gone as this seems to be the most exxpensive thing on the list 😄

[alpine musk]

My KZ ZS10 Pro have like 6 drivers per bud! Hah!
V A L U E

[dry stratus]

michael needs to give me a modern equivalent to HE6

[alpine musk]

Micheal needs to get promoted

[dry stratus]

I want a HE6 since hearing it, but it is wayyyy too rare and fragile to get one these days

[nova wagon]

Headphones and speakers still have their market because without the form factor constraints, the soundstage and sound placement is miles ahead the most accurate and widest soundstage iem

[unique wind]

more accurate i would disagree, more enjoyable yeah

sealed in ears can’t compete with something that’s open back and covers your whole ear in terms of soundstage presentation

but iems are pretty great for imaging accuracy

[unique wind]

can you even find one used

[dry stratus]

sometimes, for 2-3x original price or in pieces

[unique wind]

[alpine musk]

I get that. It must be better for making your music as people listen with the whole ear and not just the inside of it...
But then I don't get why some musicians master their songs mostly with IEMs.

[unique wind]

well produced music is usually mastered on speakers

[lean grove]

Humans only listen with 10% of their ear potential

[alpine musk]

huh... then now I am confused. Anyway, I am not a musician and never will be, so eh xd

[unique wind]

iems were originally made for live monitoring audio on stage (as far as i know)

[lean grove]

I add 60db of ear gain to compensate for this

[unique wind]

hence in ear monitor

[lean grove]

Wide Q at 2.3khz

[alpine musk]

is it a joke? watch out, I am easily influenced by random internet people that seem credible in specific area.

[unique wind]

yeah he’s shitposting

[lean grove]

You're shitposting

[unique wind]

do you actually think i am

[mossy meteor]

is this an audio support channel?

[unique wind]

because nothing i’ve told tomini was me shitposting

[unique wind]

technically yeah but we mostly just talk about audio gear we like or want

[mossy meteor]

Idk if this is allowed here but question;

i'm looking for some sort of guide that shows how to set up audio configurations for gaming on PC. i feel like i'm not getting what i'm looking for with the current settings and would like to see how others have theirs set up. if you have any recommendations that would be great!

[lean grove]

What are your goals?

Cuz with audio settings there's really only so much you can do with windows

Hardware is usually the bottleneck

[mossy meteor]

im quite confused on what to to configure if i feel like game is too loud or party is too loud, do i change in game audio? do i change discord volumes to compensate? do i change volume from my yeti knob?

[alpine musk]

Sadly the TANGZU Wu Zetian are sold out on Ali and everywhere else where they ship to EU...

They have some TANGZU x HBB Wu Heyday Edition, but that will sound different I bet. Truthear it is then

[mossy meteor]

just seems overwhelming how many volume options i have

[unique wind]

that’s entirely up to you

you can adjust users individual volumes on discord or you could adjust ingame volume settings

doesn’t really matter

[dry stratus]

find me a modern equivalent

[mossy meteor]

would i benefit from getting a mixer then?

[unique wind]

nah just use software volume control

windows volume mixer, discord volume settings, individual user volume on discord, and most games let you individually control menu, game, music, and voice chat volumes

[mossy meteor]

ya jus so many options. i hear u though, it's been what i've been doing, just thought to ask and see if there was another solution i haven't tried

what is the benefit of a mixer?

[unique wind]

no such thing man

he6 is a weird headphone

find something with a similar design and close enough tuning and then use eq to do the rest

[molten lotus]

I’m considering ordering custom tips or something because I am constantly struggling with eartip fit

[dry stratus]

a good neutral bright headphone then

all my favourites are neutral bright, lel

[alpine musk]

audio space is weird man...

[unique wind]

it is and it’s quite annoying

the amount of subjective bullshit and blatant misinformation that’s dished out by unqualified reviewers is the worst part

[molten lotus]

Give me truly neutral headphones

Make that shit flatter than a sheet of paper

[unique wind]

don’t you own 560s

[molten lotus]

I did
Hated them

[unique wind]

you don’t want neutral headphones then

[molten lotus]

I gave them to my fiancee’s younger brother

[unique wind]

because those are pretty damn close to what we believe is neutral

[alpine musk]

btw - @unique wind how many IEMs have you gone through? Like an estimate.

[molten lotus]

I’m mostly shitposting
I daily IE600s for fuck’s sake

[unique wind]

kbear ks2, 7hz salnotes zero, qkz x hbb khan, truthear x crinacle zero red, moondrop aria, tangzu zetian wu

[alpine musk]

you are that guy! 😄

[unique wind]

i think that’s all of them

[alpine musk]

That's quite a lot...

[unique wind]

it’s a couple

some people have dozens which is kinda crazy

not common tho

i don’t have my kbear box anymore but here’s the other ones

[alpine musk]

I feel that at certain point you have to relisten periodically... Just like our nose can distinguish 5-6 smells and then it's practically useless for a while.

[unique wind]

i think i threw my kbears in the garbage tbh

[alpine musk]

Has a bed just for the IEMs

[unique wind]

i don’t remember but probably

they’re pretty terrible

mids are scooped out, bass is bloated as fuck, and the treble is boosted and peaks

[alpine musk]

at that point I wonder why even sell it... If they sound like the best gas station earbuds xd

[unique wind]

i mean people buy them

a lot i bet

[alpine musk]

i need to get diagnosed xd

[unique wind]

princess changle lmao

i only recognize a couple of those

[alpine musk]

My friend had puple-blueish transparent and I think they were Kbear. He loved 'em

[lean grove]

When are we getting the moondrop SSRI

[unique wind]

i got them because a friend of mine loves them and i wanted to hear what he was praising

(they’re horrible)

[alpine musk]

I went to order the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle ZERO: RED and then went through 6 pages and open all the cool looking xd

[alpine musk]

But friendship is important. 😄

[molten lotus]

Once you get Moondrop depression

[unique wind]

i got moondrop depression when my right moondrop aria died from static discharge

oh well they were uncomfortable anyway

[molten lotus]

Avg Aria L

[unique wind]

and truthear reds are way better

[alpine musk]

The blue TRUTHEAR are not like reds, huh? It"s not like only color change

[unique wind]

the blues are an older design with harsher treble and higher distortion

[alpine musk]

huuh? Like stroking sweeater static discharge?

[unique wind]

they’re also pretty good in general but not worth buying when red exists

[alpine musk]

Somebody is selling them for 30 bucks, but I will wait get the reds then

[unique wind]

both objective audio reviewers and subjective schizophrenic audio reviewers prefer the reds

[buoyant vale]

Red things go faster so of course they would

[unique wind]

yeah like socks on carpet static

[molten lotus]

Not if you use the correct hifi linear optical cabling

[unique wind]

i’ve killed a lot of stuff with static

but thankfully not in around a years time

[alpine musk]

professional shitposter xd

subjective schizophrenic audio reviewers
my new favorite dis

[alpine musk]

https://tenor.com/view/u-unlimited-power-star-wars-lightning-gif-14542323

[mossy meteor]

do yall recommend the switch from over ear headphones to IEMs for gaming?

[still rampart]

Nah my opinion is iems don't have the comfort for long gaming sessions

[mossy meteor]

what's not to like as far as comfortability? ear pressure?

[still rampart]

Idk my ear hurts with iems after a few hours but not with over ear headphones

Mainly with headphones your ears don't have to support any weight

[mossy meteor]

the clamping and overall weight of over ears are my cons for now

[still rampart]

Hd8xx light af

Best gaming headphones on the market too lmfao /s

[nova wagon]

a hard question to answer really
for me personally, im strap for cash, i know that there is no good headphone at the price i was shopping at, im already comfortable using iem and earbuds for long period of time, so i chose to buy an iem

[molten lotus]

HE1 moment

[mossy meteor]

bro are these like $1k+?

[still rampart]

I gotta get my hands on a Sennheiser surrounder

[still rampart]

Lol yes

[dry stratus]

8xx is a mess

[mossy meteor]

i too use in ears when not gaming so i feel use to them, might give IEMs a try. Any recommendations?

[dry stratus]

a scam when used 800 exists for half the price and is better

[still rampart]

I think they're great for gaming

[nova wagon]

truthear zero blue

[still rampart]

I mean sure but I like buying new

[molten lotus]

Subjective moment

[nova wagon]

or zero red if you want something more enjoyable for music

[mossy meteor]

i guess i should also ask what ear buds you were using before; like i use airpods daily so very use to in ear

[still rampart]

Rn I have 5 headphones, hd 6xx, he4xx, hd8xx, dt1990 pro, and meze 99 noir. All purchased new

[molten lotus]

Bruh….

[still rampart]

Prob gonna cop an audeze LCD-X next, gotta find a job first

[alpine musk]

Competitive? Yes, especially shooters... If you are playing LoL/DOTA or Heartstone, then no xd

[nova wagon]

a bunch
senny cx213, sony ex155ap(basically e waste iem, the only thing worth noting is that they work)
akg ig955 (competent tuning, thats all)
right now im using the moondrop aria

also jbl tune pro+ tws for travelling

[mossy meteor]

recommendation?

[alpine musk]

I asked previously. Got recommended Truthear x Crinacle ZERO:RED by @unique wind for their tuning.

[mossy meteor]

i've heard of moon drop arias, was watching optimum tech

[nova wagon]

zero and zero red is basically the not break your bank but damn good options

[molten lotus]

They’re very good for the price

[alpine musk]

If you want more "tasteful" punch in bass and treble and you don't mid paying more then go with TANGZU Wu Zetian.

[molten lotus]

Not really a reason to buy Arias when the ZERO:REDs exist now

[nova wagon]

i would prob not recommend buying em in 2023 because the paint is easy to chip off and theres the truthear hexa as well

[alpine musk]

Really looking forward to compare to my ZS10s, I had Shure AONIC 215-CL, but I don"t remember them as much.

[nova wagon]

when i bought it in 2021 it was one of the best in its price bracket

the dunu titan s would be another to consider if you want something less bass

imo

[molten lotus]

That’s the worst part about IEMs, it’s moving fast as hell

[mossy meteor]

we in the forefront

[nova wagon]

i feel like this thing happen to a lot of tech stuff recently
like the gaming mouse side is currently in that race to the bottom i think

[alpine musk]

Don't forget to look on used market... @mossy meteor

[mossy meteor]

where to look? fb marketplace? 😂

[alpine musk]

Sure...

I guess its trash in overseas...

In Czech I use FB Marketplace, Bazoš, Sbazar, Aukro (ebay-like) and sometimes german marketplace Klein-something from eBay eBay Kleinanzeigen.

[mossy meteor]

i'll take a look, ebay probably the best in that aspect then

[alpine musk]

It just sucks to sell there 😄

[unique wind]

zero reds can just eat power

i can push the same amount of power i put into my open back planars and they’re like sure let’s do it

it’s loud but they handle it

[alpine musk]

...oh yeah, I forgot to ask. I only have on-board audio and EVO 4.

[unique wind]

they don’t need a lot of power, they can just play ear damagingly loud if you want to was my point

[alpine musk]

Oh yeah, I see. 17.5 ohms, damn

I can get the TRUTHEAR from Ali, ShenzenAudio or Amazon...

[unique wind]

i ran them off of my motherboard when i was too lazy to plug in my schiit stack and it was fine

[alpine musk]

Should I get anything else with the Zero Reds? Cable or smthing?

[mossy meteor]

what is benefit of having schiit stack or even EVO 4?

[unique wind]

it comes with an assortment of eartips and the cable isn’t microphonic so it’s okay

[unique wind]

more volume and it’s fun turning knobs mainly

using windows volume control is annoying as heck id rather turn a knob

[nova wagon]

but for an iem, even the apple dongle is way too much

[mossy meteor]

what do yall use for mics then if ure using IEMs

[nova wagon]

well, not all iems i think but

[alpine musk]

cable isn’t microphonic so it’s okay
cable with mic = bad? Or at least the cheap-o ones?

[alpine musk]

xdddddddddd

[unique wind]

microphonic means when you touch the cable it makes noise that you hear in your ear

not that the cable has a mic

i’m tired today man

[alpine musk]

I had to get EVO 4 for my mic, but I resent it as I got XM8500 and it picks up background too easily or just is too low when I play at night.

[unique wind]

like when the cable rubs on your shirt it sends that scratchy sound into your ear loud as heck

the red’s cable doesn’t do that so it’s fine it doesn’t need to be replaced

[alpine musk]

I saw some 2-pin or the round cable on Ali that had replaceable connector from 3,5mm to 2,5 or even USB
found it:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003567804290.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003764559724.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003484437858.html

[copper ermine]

What's the best wireless earphones for an android phone

[nova wagon]

buds 2 pro?

[molten lotus]

Airpods pros or buds 2 pros

[copper ermine]

I was gonna get airprods pros but I heard the features don't work

[nova wagon]

yea, typical apple on android stuff

still works as fine

[copper ermine]

So buds 2 pros are better?

[unique wind]

you still have the active noise cancelling and the tuning which are the most important parts but the other smart features arent available

[nova wagon]

just those creature comfort is not available natively

[unique wind]

i wonder how much power im putting into these reds right now

im home for my lunch break so im wired up

got my schiit magni on neutral gain 50% power

[nova wagon]

the one on that list that broke the deal for me is the battery indicator, but there are apps that fix that so its fine

[unique wind]

same amount i use for my over ears

[nova wagon]

me too
swapping to the dongle on my aria and i have to add -10db gain in apo if i want to keep the same windows level

previously i ran -6.7

[muted mural]

mentioned these https://shop.mimugloves.com/products/mi-mu-gloves in tech chat 2 and im curious is there anything liek this gloves that are more avaibile and same quality?

i wanted to buy a pair but they are all sold out and next version isnt until 2024

[unique wind]

ive never seen something like that before in my life

[muted mural]

imogen heap uses them alot and even helped work on them and advertise them

also ariane grande used them a few times

[molten lotus]

I personally find the buds pros stay in my ears better
The airpod pros are just, yeah.

[muted mural]

they basically can be used to replicate instruments either through movement or just the fingers

[unique wind]

you have some picky ears

[muted mural]

so if you wanted to a couple fingers for piano and a gesture for pitch control

[unique wind]

not as picky as conpin tho he cant use any in ears

[molten lotus]

I am fully wholly aware

[muted mural]

tbh the samsung galaxy pro buds 2 are a perfect fit for my ears

[molten lotus]

Oh I love in ears!
They just don’t love me

[muted mural]

personally though i do still love my over ear headphones i just wish the focal bathys had better anc

[molten lotus]

Speakers > IEMs > headphones for me

[unique wind]

same

mainly because i just dont like having tyler1 headphone dent hair though

[muted mural]

for me though the main issues i have is alot of companies dont try and make their headphones weather resistant

[nova wagon]

really want to try some in trade show at least

[unique wind]

and the fact that to get a headphone with as good tuning as iems without using EQ you have to spend an obscene amount of money

[muted mural]

like my pro buds 2 have a great IPX

rating

i think alot of wireless headphones need to greatly improve their IPX ratings

[unique wind]

i would imagine it's difficult to balance IPX and sound quality

but i dont know im not an engineer

[muted mural]

i swear i recall there was some headphones ears ago with great IPX ratings

[unique wind]

finished my lunch i had a big slice of pizza and a mtn dew baja blast

the american dream

[muted mural]

i defintely think companies like sony have enough money and good engineers to manage to have a great wh headphone with ok audio and great IPX rating

but they always focus more on 1 and there stuff normally headphone wise has a ipx of 4

[nova wagon]

the first number is for dust resistance right?

[muted mural]

i find it funny earbuds can get upto ipx 7 but headphones cant get past 4 or 5 they need to catch up ipx rating wise

[nova wagon]

if i have to guess, making the headband adjustment water resistance is harder than just seal up the shell of an iem

[muted mural]

yeah looked into it and i heard Plantronics BackBeat FIT 6100 are ipx rating of 5 or 6

[unique wind]

yeah the only part that needs to be open on an iem goes inside your ear canal

whereas headphone earpads are always a point where moisture can enter

[muted mural]

depends how good the seal is

[unique wind]

plus external microphones or buttons or switches if theyre active headphones

[muted mural]

ontop of that i think with ipx rating 5 to 7 headphones i think they used a special kind of earpad

[nova wagon]

yea
with iem the tips really helps with that

[muted mural]

with sonys case they put too many sensors on there stuff and dont make it so they are in places that water cant effect

[warm scarab]

avoid it

it doesn't have the feedback of an instrument

its a toy at most

[muted mural]

is there any wearable music tech thats actually good

for producing music i keep seeing them pop up the last 5 years

[lean grove]

You mean wireless headphones?

[muted mural]

no i mean like gloves or wearable clothes for creating music

[lean grove]

Oh. No idea.

How would that be an advantage

[muted mural]

another thing i recall seeing ages ago were tech gloves that helped train you to play piano

so you turn them on wear them for awhile then your hands / muscle memory knows how to play the song

[mossy meteor]

does anyone know if wire of dunu titan S is "microphonic"?

[molten lotus]

how does a sharp angle for a cable look like?

@warm scarab my nerd friend

[warm scarab]

define sharp angle

like too sharp of a turn to the point where it damages the cable?

[molten lotus]

ye

how does it look like?

[warm scarab]

there is no universal standard because cables can be tougher, softer, more bendable than one another

[molten lotus]

but how is it normally for a pair of headphones

[warm scarab]

I mean headphones also have different cables with different builds but

ig 60 degrees is around fine?

I'd stick below 50-60 degrees by eye measure for comfort

[molten lotus]

a sharp angle is when you force it to be on that state/angle correct?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[molten lotus]

is it normally for a headphone cable to do the circle shape?

must be xd

[warm scarab]

circle?

[molten lotus]

like a roundy

[warm scarab]

i

yeah

probably

[unique wind]

it’s definitely better to make a loop than to have a 90 degree turn with a cable

[molten lotus]

na i was curious how sarp angle are my cable is behind my desk coming to the top

[unique wind]

i’m sorry but i don’t think that i understand what you’re trying to ask

[molten lotus]

I was curious how sharp angles looked liked because i want to make sure not to happen

[unique wind]

bending against the back of your desk should be okay

[molten lotus]

it's not sharp angle when it's bending its like a soft 90 angle

[unique wind]

yeah it’s probably fine

[molten lotus]

ik

[molten lotus]

if it damages like that every headphone cable will be damaging since it will ahve to go up so it's going to make a angle but it's not a sharp angle nor forced xd

[unique wind]

hifi

[deft fern]

I have a problem that is windows can't recognize my mic's name and named it as USB advanced AUDIO device BUT
before it did recognize and showed "Fifine K678"
now with the weird name my mic's volume is greatly amplified. Hearing all shit in a 5 block radius with extreme noise

Help

[frosty ocean]

Anybody here buy an OTC hearing aide?

[molten lotus]

I need albums to listen to.
Spotify's suggestions suck

[unborn gale]

check out Starset

[nova wagon]

Poly bridge 3 official soundtracks

[warm scarab]

in the court of the crimson king

[alpine musk]

@unique wind I bought the Zero RED for 52.86€

Had to cancel the first order because somehow Amazon picked worse seller with higher price and slower delivery...that seller was...Amazon itself... LOL

I checked my bank account after cancellation and I don't see any charge, but I don't remember my balance before the order.

Fellow members, is it normal that Amazon doesn't charge rightaway? I never order from Amazon, so sorry for my newbieness...

[unborn gale]

from what I remember, Amazon charges after it ships out.

but it sounds like Amazon hasn't shipped out yet

[alpine musk]

Well, the second order charged me instantly.

[unborn gale]

oh. Guess I'm wrong then

[alpine musk]

But this order was from ShenzenAudio

The first one was Amazon itself

So you might be right

[unborn gale]

ah

[alpine musk]

1st order (cancelled now)

2nd order

[unborn gale]

huh

You could contact Amazon and ask about it

[warm scarab]

might be different for various sellers

shenzhen is located in china so they might need downpayment for the shipping

[alpine musk]

In a few hours when they open support I will

If only I Googled 💀

[unborn gale]

Cool looks like I was right

[floral hinge]

What’s a good party speaker for college students? Just go as cheap as you can for the price. Like asking here cause you guys are amazing and I trust y’all 🤣

[dry stratus]

a normal speaker

god those "party" targetted speakers are bad

[floral hinge]

I agree a lot of people have them up here and I swear I’ve heard better from my old ass game boy

What’s a good one tho I’m not good with audio specs

[lean grove]

When my brother was in a frat he was able to do some damage with the Klipsch promedia. They usually hover at around $100

[floral hinge]

Any suggestions for something more portable?

[still rampart]

I rocked an Anker soundcore boost back in college

It got the job done

Alternatively, all the citadel interns got Bose SoundLink revolves

[molten lotus]

im using voicemeeter's VBAN to stream my audio from my laptop to my gaming PC and like three days ago it worked fine but now the audio is coming out my laptop and gaming PC. anyone know why?

[steel escarp]

💀💀💀

How even

[dry stratus]

Keeps turning their headphones the same way

Tho I have a little of that as well just standard

[unique wind]

get a cord that will never do that

[white gate]

For anyone able to, I HIGHLY recommend going to a CanJam if you can. They're great fun and an opportunity to try a huge variety of awesome gear https://youtu.be/WT9UyIIAWfE

[warm scarab]

I want to squeeze your cheeks

[unique wind]

i wanna go to a headphone show to try dan clark headphones

[white gate]

DCA stuff is interesting, but definitely worth trying other stuff before buying

[unique wind]

i would definitely want to try many niche headphones made by individual people or small teams/companies

[deft fern]

I have a problem that is windows can't recognize my mic's name and named it as USB advanced AUDIO device BUT
before it did recognize and showed "Fifine K678"
now with the weird name my mic's volume is greatly amplified. Hearing all shit in a 5 block radius with extreme noise
Help
this problem happened after i tried to connect the mic to a mobile via OTG
before i tried that it was fine

[steel escarp]

It's all copium tier dynamics

The dan clark aeon x closed is the most copium tier closed back ever

It sounded like IEMs

The open back was mid af

The expanse was also mid

[unique wind]

the only two i’m interested in are stealth and expanse

the cheaper ones don’t have good tuning

[steel escarp]

Stealth also has no dynamics

Gonna demo organic tomorrow

Kinda hyped

[unique wind]

it’s gotta sound pretty incredible with such good isolation and damping and tuning and distortion

[steel escarp]

Gonna bring my dt880 and plug it into all the tube stuff

[unique wind]

like you said it’s gotta be like iems but headphones

gotta be sick

[steel escarp]

It was claustrophobic

[unique wind]

i’m looking for that absolute isolation perfectly presented sound

[steel escarp]

IEMs

[unique wind]

mhm i main iems

id like to see how that presentation feels with headphones

with whole ear bass tactility it’s gotta be pretty cool

[white gate]

They're good but definitely not incredible

Expanse was better, though still for the price there are better performing headphones.
Interestingly Expanse achieves its tuning with the assistance of some passive electronic filters (analog EQ), not just acoustic tuning.

[white gate]

IEMs

Though the 'perfectly presented' part is tough

[unique wind]

yah i daily drive truthear reds, but id like to see how such a thing would sound with whole ear tactility

[white gate]

Not really any headphone that's actually 'perfect'

[unique wind]

i don’t intend to buy them anyway don’t worry

would be fun to try tho

[molten lotus]

I wish there was a good electrostatic IEM
Or even a good electrostatic that wasn't $50,000

[dry stratus]

tfw perfect would mean a different sound signature for every single piece of music
something perfect for orchestral won't work well for EDM, lel

[white gate]

That's why you see people who've been in the hobby for ages having multiple headphones 😛

[stark thicket]

yo so i use a splitter when i use my headphones bc thats what came with them, and for some reason my mic randomly stopped working and idk if its the detachable mic or the splitter cable thats casuiong it. i get zero audio when i use the splitter cable in the right ports but when i plug the headphone audio end of the splitter into the mic port the mic suddenly works. i think this is a cable issue but im not sure

[white gate]

If i had to just pick one headphone though it'd still be Susvara

[molten lotus]

splitter's busted

[white gate]

Splitter is likely not wired to facilitate a mic as well. Many splitters will be three pole (check number of rings on the jack) whereas the headphones with mic will likely be 4 pole

[stark thicket]

no it worked before tho

[unique wind]

i wonder if anyone will mimic a harman tuned tribrid iem like moondrop variations but at a much lower cost within the next couple years, truthear reds are awesome but the upper treble has room for improvement

[molten lotus]

EQ

[white gate]

Harman tuning for IEMs is unlikely to be much of a thing in future, there are unfortuantely issues with the harman in-ear research (and actually the truthear RED is kinda meant to demonstrate that point by explicitly NOT being harman and sounding better tuned than harman IEMs)

[molten lotus]

tbf they are lacking a bit in the highs

[unique wind]

that’s their only real flaw

[molten lotus]

then again, I'm an idiot so

[stark thicket]

okay so you think i should buy a new splitter cable

?

[unique wind]

but they’re incredible for $55

[molten lotus]

I didn't say that
We don't have enough information to make recommendations

[white gate]

The REDs aren't the most technical/detailed yeah.
Crin is doing a full flagship IEM from scratch which will likely have very similar tuning to RED but way more technical. It's gonna be $$$$ though

[molten lotus]

can't be more than my IE600s were

[white gate]

Symphonium Crimson though ❤️

Fuuuuck those are good

[molten lotus]

at least it better not be

[unique wind]

he did put four dollar signs

[molten lotus]

fuck

[white gate]

They're probably going to be over $5k

[unique wind]

shelling out four figures for in ears that aren’t custom mold shells is hard for me to justify

[white gate]

Most very high end IEMs have a custom option

[molten lotus]

Jesus

Only thing I've ever used that high end were Visionears EXTs

[white gate]

Symphonium STORM is probably my fav flagship IEM. That's about $6k iirc

those are truly phenomenal though

[unique wind]

i don’t know how much my salary would have to be before i’d be willing to pay that much for in ears

id much rather invest in headphones at that price

[molten lotus]

very, very high

[white gate]

The ultra-fi IEMs are mostly bought in Singapore/China

[molten lotus]

I'd go for speakers at that end

[white gate]

In USA/Europe etc it's mostly headphones

[molten lotus]

Zeppelin ❤️

[white gate]

There's some REALLY good new headphones coming out though

https://hedd.audio/

Heddphone V2 is 👌

[molten lotus]

If I didn't live in a pretty loud complex and have two very needy cats that might be interesting

[unique wind]

i might be in the minority but a bit of background noise doesn’t bother me while i wear open backs

i like being able to hear the world at the same time as the music

within reason, i haven’t used my open backs hardly at all during this summer because my window ac unit is very loud

[white gate]

Ah yeah that can be a challenge

[molten lotus]

Background noise is different from DFW airport landings overhead

[white gate]

There's some decent closed backs, but tbh, you can get way better performance with IEMs

there's just so many challenges involved with making closed backs

Soundz Flame is great. £1200, some insanely high isolation and excellent performance

[molten lotus]

This plus I refuse to use a good speaker setup
My neighbors are kind to me, I'm kind to them

[unique wind]

i watched your headphoneshow canjam coverage video when you sent it earlier this morning

[white gate]

-35dB isolation on the flame 😛

[molten lotus]

oh yeah that's another thing
The passive isolation on the Reds is really not great

[unique wind]

i don’t find it to be lacking personally

although it is massively improved using the foam tips instead of silicone

[molten lotus]

my ears are also just weird as hell

[unique wind]

my ac that’s right behind my head is barely audible with foams

[molten lotus]

oh yeah I don't use foam
They fail too quickly while I'm at work

[unique wind]

do they squeeze out of your ears?

or do you mean something else when you say fail

[molten lotus]

No, I just can't get replacements when I'm out
So like, over 8-9 months they soak up earwax over time and begin to fall apart
Did it once with my airpods, never again

earwax or humidity idk, but they go bad and I can't get replacements

[unique wind]

oh

yeah i’m not sure what i’ll do when these foams inevitably fall apart

the smallest size of dekoni tips are still a little uncomfortable compared to these

took me like a week for my ears to not hurt when using those last time i tried and it’s been a while

whatever foams truthear included with the reds are the most comfortable out of any that i’ve tried

[molten lotus]

yeh, the foams with the IE600s are absolute shit

[unique wind]

i’m going to steal your ie600s and dispose of them

[molten lotus]

then again I'm not a level 8 listener so what do I know

[molten lotus]

leave my treble extravaganzas alone

They're like #8 on crin's rankings they can't be that bad

(I know that's subjective but I'm coping)

[unique wind]

the iem market has developed so much in the last few years

i’m sure that ranking list is a bit outdated

[molten lotus]

It just got a full overhaul last week

[unique wind]

i mean before the qkz x hbb khan and truthear crinacle collaboration you couldn’t get an iem with a harman bass shelf without spending like $500

excluding self powered DSP iems

to my knowledge anyway

[molten lotus]

either way I need to get this down before 1989 comes out

[unique wind]

get what down

[molten lotus]

the best listening experience from my IEMs

[unique wind]

i mean why not listen to it on everything that you own

[molten lotus]

Hrmnnn.

Arias, Reds, IE600s, airpod pros, and og galaxy buds? pass

[unique wind]

perhaps just the reds and ie600

[molten lotus]

lmao

[lean grove]

You can't be in midfi hell with only 2 things

[unique wind]

can one even reach hifi without going the speaker route nils

[lean grove]

The hifi was inside of you all along

I'm not gonna pin down what hifi is

Or how to achieve it

But buying a bunch of small mediocre things hoping they add up to one good thing isn't it

[unique wind]

hifi must be the friends we’ve made and the journey we’ve gone on

[lean grove]

That makes ltt the most hifi server

[unique wind]

does it

we’re pretty hostile in here

[lean grove]

What better demonstration of friendship than hanging out with the same idiots for years

[molten lotus]

honestly I'd rather spend hifi money on speakers

[unique wind]

that’s true i have enjoyed the multi year banter in this channel

[molten lotus]

plus, the only headphones I've ever used that really blew me away were all like $3500+, I ain't about that

[unique wind]

i’ve only ever tried things that i own personally

not really in the cards to spend hundreds or even four figures to travel and listen to things at this point in my life

[molten lotus]

Oh yeah
There's a place in Singapore that's like a coffee bar/headphone place and I spend many, many days there

well there's multiple places now

[unique wind]

sounds like a chill place

i’ve always wondered if and how they sanitize headphones and especially iems before letting people try them

[molten lotus]

got a bit loud at times but yeah

[unique wind]

inbetween users i mean

at events

[molten lotus]

they do, depends on what it is
IEMs is just alcohol on the silicone tips

[unique wind]

imagine how embarrassing it would be to put iems in and then have them be covered in wax when you pull them out

i would wanna go to an ENT doctor and have a thorough cleaning before going to an event

[lean grove]

You can get otoscope ear cleaners for like $20

[unique wind]

yeah i’ve seen those and they’re tempting but i worry about accidentally puncturing my ear drum

which i suppose would be a skill issue

[lean grove]

I've got one and you can tell when you're getting too close

They also have guards which limit the depth

[molten lotus]

I tried on a ton of Acoustune IEMs while I was there and I absolutely hated them
They made me legitimately question if something was wrong with my ears

[unique wind]

i think we talked about those and i posted graphs that show they just suck and you’re not crazy

[unique wind]

this is reassuring

[molten lotus]

It was more than just graphs man I swear I could hear each driver slightly out of step with each other

[unique wind]

a little driver hokey pokey

[dry stratus]

I feel like the only option for IEMs for me would be custom..
because after trying a bunch, none are capable of staying inside of my ears

eartips either are too big to fit, or don't go deep enough and fall out because of weight..

[white gate]

I have had a similar issue in the past but trying different tips fixed it. In particular, Xelastec.
Those are a silicone tip but a particularly high friction material that also with your body heat molds exactly to your ear. I got both great fit and great sounding results with those and they're usually my go-to now

[dry stratus]

issue is I need like XXS size tips that go quite deep

[lean grove]

No tip etymotics

[dry stratus]

only one that's ever worked had static

[dry stratus]

my current in ear actually is just no tips, lel

works best from what I've tried

[unique wind]

that is criminal

[dry stratus]

the only way I have something more portable and less hot

that stays even a little bit in my ears at all

[white gate]

They have a super small option https://i.imgur.com/UvSA3Xx.png

[unique wind]

maybe the solution for conpin has finally been found

now just put those on a linear bass iem

[molten lotus]

maybe they're like me and ended up having TTS

[dry stratus]

tried it, doesn't go deep enough

[unique wind]

[white gate]

Depth is gonna be an interesting challenge cause that's not really a tip thing but an IEM thing

[unique wind]

need a long nosed iem

[dry stratus]

I've always had the issue of, either it can't go in or
it doesn't go deep enough and just drops out after a while because weight ig?

[dry stratus]

have etymotic make an XXS tip

[unique wind]

qkz x hbb khan has a very long nozzle it felt kind of violating to fully push it in

but it’s nowhere near the tuning that you want

and it’s large anyway

[unique wind]

yeah i’ll tell them to real quick

[steel escarp]

fiio ft3 really is peak mid

[dry stratus]

tfw ur entire body grew entirely in length, but u still got smaller sized ears, nose, wrists, etc

always need that thin but long stuff

[unique wind]

i’ll give you $50 for them

[steel escarp]

I got full money back

from returning them

[unique wind]

oh good

[steel escarp]

yeah

but man

if they made them with bigger earpads for more ear space

it'd be an amazing product

[unique wind]

the ultimate slightly warm neutral headphone

[steel escarp]

its warm as fuck

[dry stratus]

what I want is HE6 proper re-release

[steel escarp]

and the bass didn't even hit particularly hard

[unique wind]

i wonder how you’d react to truthear red with the 10ohm resistor if you think ft3 is warm as fuck

especially with foam eartips

it sounds so thick

[steel escarp]

like all these people say dynamics have way better bass than planars, where is the speed and impact??

[dry stratus]

I prefer planar bass

[unique wind]

who is saying dynamics have better bass

[steel escarp]

too many reviewers

[unique wind]

planars have flat impedance and lower bass distortion

[steel escarp]

I need arya organic

I think

imagine its gonna be shit af, nah hope not

[unique wind]

have you heard other versions of the arya

i imagine it’ll only be slightly different

[steel escarp]

stealth only

stealth was pretty good with its staging

[unique wind]

someone uploaded this measurement comparison to a reddit thread

organic in green stealth in blue

i wonder if this difference in upper treble is accurately measured and consistent across units

@steel escarp are you demoing it today or tomorrow i forgot

[steel escarp]

Tomorrow

[unique wind]

word i’ll be at the same shop tomorrow

[steel escarp]

There was another guy who had an appointment to demo

Which store

@unique wind

[unique wind]

i’m not actually

that’s on the other side of the world

[steel escarp]

Rip

[molten lotus]

What the fuck is going on between 1-3khz

[white gate]

That'd be good

[dry stratus]

only got the sad excuses called he6se

[white gate]

Some call it a 'soundstage dip'

Basically if you scoop that area slightly, it makes the headphones sound bigger. I think sennheiser did it first

[dry stratus]

should rename it to hifiman dip

basically all of theirs have it no?

[molten lotus]

Is that why I hated every hifiman I tried

[dry peak]

because it was a discussion a couple days ago - I got the Sennheiser RS175 to test them out and there is literally no delay

[warm scarab]

which did you try out of curiosity

[warm scarab]

that isn't a bluetooth headphone

[dry peak]

yeah, they are using Kleer

[warm scarab]

why would it have delay

[dry peak]

that's what you were arguing, that there is a delay from converting the analog signal to a digital signal, I mean there technically is but it is not noticeable

[warm scarab]

I never said that

ever

I stated that because you thought buying a sound card would be an improvement to your wireless headphones' sound

and I told you that it has a sound card inside of the headphone itself

where it does the digital to analog conversion and amplification

I exclusively stated that bluetooth has delay which is unrelated to the rs as it has a dedicated receiver station for itself

[unique wind]

woah.

rs175 tuning is wack

[warm scarab]

though I did call the headphone shit which it absolutely is

[warm scarab]

I know right

senn closed back moment

[unique wind]

sennheiser or hifiman make a good closed back challenge

[warm scarab]

I usually get mad at you for judging shit off of charts but yeah this is unsalvageable

[dry stratus]

compare with raycon

[spring gazelle]

Can anyone recommend me some 50€ over ear wireless headphones? If possible a bit bass heavy.

[molten lotus]

Nothing crazy
Sundara open and closed, and the Ananda

[warm scarab]

its like 10db lower

[warm scarab]

sundara I can see why

ananda takes getting used to if you are a dynamic user

and vice versa

[molten lotus]

Yeah I was super not impressed

[spring gazelle]

Want them for sports, thats why so cheap

[warm scarab]

moondrop space travel or something

its pretty decent

around 30$

don't come back complaining when the 3$ battery in it dies a few months afterwards

[molten lotus]

Plantronics Backbeat fit

Been using them for workouts for almost a decade

[mystic parcel]

@past gate Check out these beautiful cables.

[warm scarab]

wtf fake michael

@mystic parcel @unique wind fight

[unique wind]

bros parents spelled his name wrong

[warm scarab]

lmao

[molten lotus]

Git wrecked

[warm scarab]

absolutely destroyed

[mystic parcel]

Lol it’s the Irish spelling

[molten lotus]

So it’s the wrong spelling

[unique wind]

i’m irish

[mystic parcel]

From the motherland?

Or just in your dna?

[warm scarab]

my condolences

[unique wind]

just dna

[mystic parcel]

Gotcha

[unique wind]

i was born and raised as an assimilated american

[molten lotus]

Real ireland or northern ireland 🍿

[unique wind]

no fuckin clue man

[warm scarab]

are you a redhead

[unique wind]

i’m not solely irish i’m a mutt

[mystic parcel]

NGL I’m not even Irish I’m Italian lol just my parents spelled my name that way lol

[unique wind]

i have brown hair and green eyes

[molten lotus]

All americans are assimilated americans
That’s the point of america 🦅🦅🦅

[warm scarab]

mfw there is no ginger kid to bully

[unique wind]

RAHHHHH 🦅

FORD F1500000

SKREEEE

[mystic parcel]

I have a ford f150…

[molten lotus]

I’m english and 🤢fr*nch🤢

[unique wind]

i will probably have a 90s f250 in early 2024 when my cousin sells his

[mystic parcel]

I hope you do

[unique wind]

single cab long bed 4x4 5.8L i believe

dark grey

[molten lotus]

Sell it online for $30k

[mystic parcel]

My truck. Been working on it for 5 years now

[unique wind]

the engine is unknown atm i haven’t asked but i know it’s a gas v8

[molten lotus]

Avg liquid death drinker

[mystic parcel]

Lol

[unique wind]

no clue if it’s the 5.0, 5.8, or 7.5

don’t really care tbh but it would be cool if it’s the big block

[mystic parcel]

I prefer cans they get colder

7.3 Godzilla… lol

[dry stratus]

Trucks.. god I hate them..

[mystic parcel]

I bought my truck with a blown engine and transmission and swap it with a 2016 raptor 3.5l engine

[molten lotus]

What’d trucks do to you?

[mystic parcel]

I use my truck for work

[dry stratus]

use more fuel, higher up so u can't see things as well, etc

[dry stratus]

they're just murder machines..

[unique wind]

older trucks are pretty small and have downward sloped hoods for visibility

i’m not a fan of how new trucks are massive and flat either

[molten lotus]

I blame the drivers

[dry stratus]

children being too small to see be like

[mystic parcel]

I feel like i can see better in my truck then my car i had before it

[unique wind]

a current gen f150 is bigger than a 90s f350 lmao

[mystic parcel]

Is that legit?

[dry stratus]

I blame the minimum age to drive allowing those who still think with their nether region exclusively to be able to drive as well as the dumb design of trucks..

[molten lotus]

And fucking tows less

[unique wind]

yeah they’ve been steadily getting larger to evade increasingly stringent size based emissions laws

and plus because people like it

[dry stratus]

thankfully there are no trucks allowed here like that, lel

[unique wind]

you’d be surprised how much smaller 90s 3/4 and 1 ton trucks are

[molten lotus]

Despite having the same tow capacity

[unique wind]

well idk about that

[dry stratus]

americans just prefer quantity over quality too much

[mystic parcel]

How does that work if you need a truck?

[unique wind]

maxed out 1 tons with diesels can tow like 36,000lb these days it’s kind of insane

[dry stratus]

u never do, because u have work vehicles for that, lel

[molten lotus]

Ah yeah I’m talking gasoline

[past gate]

[dry stratus]

don't need a truck for transport at all, not even the best for it

nothing it is good for, lel

[unique wind]

almost all vehicles you see on the road here are crossover suvs or trucks

[molten lotus]

Towing

[unique wind]

id feel kinda unsafe in a subcompact car

even tho i love tiny cars

[molten lotus]

To be fair our roads are total dogshit

[molten lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/car-gif-24480854

[dry stratus]

here in EU it is much more reasonable

[warm scarab]

moving in an out of a furnished apartment

[unique wind]

POPUP HEADLIGHTSSSS

[dry stratus]

u mean vehicles meant for moving?, aka not a truck?

[warm scarab]

but yeah not much of a reason

[unique wind]

someone is selling a 5-ton military 6x6 on facebook near me

weighs 21,000LB empty

[warm scarab]

pickup trucks are plenty for moving if you aren't moving furnisher

[molten lotus]

Buy it

[unique wind]

no way bro

i literally can afford it but no

[molten lotus]

Ego check

[warm scarab]

sounds pretty sick ngl

[dry stratus]

just use work vehicles here

[warm scarab]

definitely not compensating for anything

[molten lotus]

How will people know you’re a big manly man without a 25,000 truck?

[warm scarab]

what is a work vehicle

van?

[warm scarab]

real

[mystic parcel]

This is a decent sized truck

That monster parked next to me a few weeks ago lol

[dry stratus]

idk the name, idgaf about cars
just those u often use for work

[molten lotus]

Now that’s just ridiculous

[warm scarab]

a normal car?

[dry stratus]

idk the names

[molten lotus]

“Work”

[dry stratus]

trucks are just unnecessarily large and inefficient

[unique wind]

maybe i should get a 5ton 6x6 since american roads are becoming a dick measuring contest with vehicle size

simply move over or i’ll run you over

[warm scarab]

yes

especially in europe

[dry stratus]

don't even have trucks here like that

[warm scarab]

they are rare

[unique wind]

i’ve never seen what he just posted irl that’s pretty rare

[mystic parcel]

Do you guys not have trailers either?

[dry stratus]

just too inefficient so not allowed about anywhere

[molten lotus]

I have a few times

Texas moment

[warm scarab]

there are but its rare

you generally have caravans

[unique wind]

multiple times? wild

[warm scarab]

not really trailers

[unique wind]

i’ve wanted to see a 6 door irl but never have

just to see how ridiculous they look

maximum cabin space minimum bed space

[molten lotus]

They always have bald offroad tires
You don’t want to be within 100 meters of one on the road

You gotta remember a lot of these goobers can’t actually afford this crap

[lean grove]

https://www.qudelix.com/products/qudelix-t71-usb-dac

[warm scarab]

wow terrible

bet nils would post something like this

[unique wind]

bald from driving tens of thousands of miles on highways instead of off road

[warm scarab]

OH IT IS

[dry stratus]

imagine being so fat u need 3 rows for 3 people

[warm scarab]

😔

[molten lotus]

And just dogshit maintenance

[unique wind]

i mean hey big tires are expensive

[dry stratus]

I'll just never get a car

until it drives for me

don't want to deal with the idiots on the road

[unique wind]

aren’t european highways substantially safer than american ones tho

[dry stratus]

train, walking and cycling is enough.. especially when everything u need is within 20 minutes of walking

[warm scarab]

yeah cars are such a scam

[dry stratus]

it still is a bunch of people driving like they are the only ones there

[unique wind]

i mean yeah if you live in a major walkable city there’s no point in a car

[mystic parcel]

I do all my own work

Best invest i made was my own truck lift

[warm scarab]

you buy the car then they have you buy "gas" or whatever

[dry stratus]

I would rather have a motorcycle than a car honestly, lol

[molten lotus]

I’m talking about people not maintaining their vehicles properly because they can’t actually afford the vehicle

[unique wind]

i feel like europeans don’t understand just how car dependent 95% of americas infrastructure is

[dry stratus]

they did it to themselves

[unique wind]

if you don’t live in one of like 12 major cities chances are you are required to have a car

[dry stratus]

no side walks exists

[unique wind]

the other 98% of our land mass isn’t walkable

[molten lotus]

You can walk anywhere, you’re just lazy 🤓👆

[dry stratus]

americans are that weird species that drives to the local gym to walk for 30 minutes on a treadmill instead of walk to the gym and back

[unique wind]

if the gym was within walkable distance they’d probably walk

[dry stratus]

nah, too many obese

[molten lotus]

We get it man

[unique wind]

the majority of people in NYC don’t have cars for example

pull up a map of your country laid on top of ours for size reference

[dry stratus]

personally the only use I see for cars is in remote areas..

where public transport makes no sense because too few people

[unique wind]

a once or twice yearly long drive for you is a daily commute for many people

[molten lotus]

Which is most of the usa

[unique wind]

yeah that’s 95% of our landmass

[unique wind]

suburbs or rural

[dry stratus]

I know

give them some sidewalks

[molten lotus]

Fuck suburbs man I fucking hate suburbia so much

[dry stratus]

10/10 IQ

[unique wind]

where my family in kentucky are they are an hour and a half drive from the nearest walmart

[dry stratus]

I prefer living in a city never needing more than my legs

[unique wind]

i guess they should just walk

[dry stratus]

I live a 5 minutes walk away from city center, so..

[molten lotus]

Even in a city, our closest grocery store is an hour walk on the road, no sidewalks

[dry stratus]

renting an apartment that cost 700k-1.8mil to buy for 530 a month..

[unique wind]

i’m very jealous of that housing price

if i wanted to move out i would have to pay like $900-1200 for a studio apartment and i live in a poverty suburb city

almost double what my parents pay for their mortgage on our 4 bedroom house with a large yard

[molten lotus]

Yup
Our 650 sq ft apartment is $1700 and we live over an hour away from any major city

[dry stratus]

I live in the netherlands and am categorized as disabled (even tho am not), so I get a lot of help with paying for things tho

[unique wind]

disabling myself and moving to the netherlands real quick

[dry stratus]

moved recently from a small city

that place was -60 a month

got paid more back than I paid for it

I was paid to live there

[molten lotus]

Sounds like communism

🦅🦅🦅🦅

[unique wind]

hey at least now you can walk to get things you want

[dry stratus]

it sounds like a country that has such insane taxes and extra costs that working makes just no sense for many people

better off just saying u cannot work

[dry stratus]

I moved to major city to start schooling myself for 3D artist, programming, etc

because I ain't travelling 5 hours a day back and forth for that

25min walk is better

[unique wind]

i will gladly get paid to stay home

[dry stratus]

do u want a cheaper than free apartment?, just chop off ur legs and move here

u'll have 600-800 in savings per month after food and insurances without working

[unique wind]

idk i kinda like having legs

[molten lotus]

Sounds like fraud 🦅🦅🦅

[dry stratus]

then just act like u are disabled during diagnosis

[molten lotus]

Commie fraud

[dry stratus]

I just abuse my past to get what I want for now..

[molten lotus]

🦅🦅🦅

[dry stratus]

severely outdated diagnosis = easy help and free stuff

while I can just freely school myself

and leave the moment I can for another country with less stupid cost of living when working

[molten lotus]

So you’re the person that the social haters complain about
Taking resources from the people that actually need it
Cringe

[dry stratus]

I don't take it
I am not the one doing it

I have someone else get these things done for me within health care

[molten lotus]

FREELOAAADER!!!!

🦅🦅🦅🦅

[dry stratus]

not stable enough to work anyway, so..
no other way to live (all jobs I can do require u to be social, I literally can't)

now give me he6

[dry stratus]

I mean, I did get a few thousand euro in crypto from guys thinking I was a girl even tho I said I wasn't
bought my furniture with that

[unique wind]

i would love to be a free loader