#audio-tech

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molten lotus
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Ok but what if the drivers are shit

thorn pulsar
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I'm gonna ask a really stupid question. Is there any way to extract a digital signal from HDMI into a PC? Right now I have a extremely hacky solution I'm using my PC as a audio mixer. So I take my PS5 audio from my monitor into my PC using line-in to mix it to my regular audio set-up.

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Basically I have like 3 outputs on my PC so it's convenient to be able to able to swap all at once

rocky spruce
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Do yall have a Headset recomendation that cost 30 or 40 euro and come whit a mic? Sound quality dont matter too much

thorn pulsar
warm scarab
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sorry I misread

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you can just get an audio switch

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or an actual mixer

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both can be found for cheap

west crypt
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can anyone help me with the podmic usb eq?

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i want something podcasty

warm scarab
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I believe nils answered you sufficiently honestly

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get close, lower gain, use a compressor

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and also work on your speech honestly

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getting a good sounding mic wont give you a caster voice

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those people are actually good orators

west crypt
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should i use the pop filter that comes with it?

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or should i get as close to the capsule as possible

warm scarab
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get a windshield instead

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pop filters are dumb

west crypt
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i have one rn not the best

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cheap onewind

warm scarab
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a pop filter or a windshield

west crypt
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should i use it or do i just use the rode one?

west crypt
warm scarab
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just use the windshield

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pop filters are huge and not really necessary

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use better mic technique and plosives will not be an issue

west crypt
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i have the mic on an angle

warm scarab
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a good thing to do

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and you still have plosives?

west crypt
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nope havent had a problem with plosives

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just tryna figure out he compressor

warm scarab
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okay then why do you say that your windshield isn't good

west crypt
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been using the pop filter

warm scarab
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anyways

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what software are you using

west crypt
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rode central

warm scarab
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so uninstall that

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and start watching tutorials on equalizer apo

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and reafir vst plugins

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in particular, reagate and reacomp

west crypt
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alright

warm scarab
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the rest you won't really need, probably

thorn pulsar
# warm scarab or an actual mixer

geta a bit fincky. since everything right now i do is digital via audio (windows) interfaces with the help of a stream deck.
But thanks anyhow

warm scarab
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then again, what about an audio switch

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it sounds exactly like what you are looking for

thorn pulsar
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i use like speakers, good headphones and wireless headphones out so it goes to 3 digital outouts

warm scarab
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oh wireless

thorn pulsar
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that also yes. I have a dac amp combo headphones for music, and a wireless headset for gaming

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my audio setup is a lil odd lol

warm scarab
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well if you want to route it through your computer, a mixer or what you have been doing right now sounds like the only real solution

thorn pulsar
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yeah i guessed so, tried to google but google not liking what i typed lol

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digital audio in? how about 5000 artictles about how to do digital out

west crypt
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should i turn on the 60hz highpass filter?

warm scarab
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no

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add a lowshelf for more bass

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preamp so you can make sure you are staying below line level

uncut sky
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Guys whats the difference between spatial audio, surround sound and 3d audio

lean grove
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Different brands call them different things.

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Mostly to make it seem like their thing is something different when it's usually nothing new.

dry stratus
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And still fake bs sounding whack

uncut sky
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Its very cool when watching movies

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Hearing like the bullets from all directions

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Planes flying also etc

steel escarp
unborn gale
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when the measurements are flat, but at an angle lol

steel escarp
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we need linus tech tips to use his cable tester to actually test audio cables

white gate
# steel escarp we need linus tech tips to use his cable tester to actually test audio cables

That cable tester is for testing digital cables with high speed/bandwidth signal content. It wouldn't actually be an ideal tool (nor necessary) for testing audio cables.

For audio cables you'd want to know Capacitance, Inductance, Resistance, and possibly characteristic impedance, all of which you can do with an LCR meter.

There's some other stuff like Common Mode Rejection Ratio that you could check, usually applies to amps rather than balanced cables themselves but still. But for that you'd need a more accurate ADC and the correct circuitry to supply and test differential vs common mode signals so you'd need an audio analyzer

jolly vine
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Pixel Buds Pro or Sony WF-1000XM4?

Pixel Buds Pro or Sony WF-1000XM4?
Hello everyone. Currently the Google Pixel Buds Pro are $139 | Like new/open box Sony WF-1000M4 are $120.

I already have the G Pixel A- series for about 2 years they came free with my phone. I like how small the case is and they sound pretty ok, and are not uncomfortable. I really want a pair with wireless charging and google Assistant compatible-those are my two requirements.

The Pixel Pro seemed like the obvious upgrade, but with the M4s for basically the same price I am stuck between the two. I currently use my earbuds practically every day and for several hours at a time while sitting at the office for traveling. So my new pair has to be comfortable to wear for several hours at a time.

Which one is the better option or should I just buy both and return one?

lean grove
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Why those two in particular

unborn gale
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Yeah, there are other choices like the Linkbuds S

jolly vine
jolly vine
unborn gale
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Fair

lean grove
drowsy blade
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So I’ve upgraded from a 20W to a 60w amp and they’re overdriving my speakers a little bit, especially at high volumes. theyre totally usable, but i cant get them as high as i want without massive distortion
Can anyone suggest some decent cheap bookshelf speakers (ideally with wall mount brackets), something i can EQ up the bass a little with minimal distortion
Here’s the spec sheet for my new amp, i have a budget of around £20-30, second hand is fine

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(please ping me here)

warm scarab
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simple as

lean grove
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You're gonna have to find something on Facebook or craigslist

drowsy blade
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I said decent, not good.

I’m living off £300 a month and just want something which will work

lean grove
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30 quid is seriously very cheap for a new pair of speakers

drowsy blade
lean grove
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the cheapest speaker that's not made out of cardboard i can possibly think of is the micca covo s

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anything below that and you're paying for something that should not possibly by that cheap

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its like if someone offers you a £30 computer

drowsy blade
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So what would you suggest I save up for?

lean grove
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i suggest you look for something used

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you can probably find something in your price range pretty easily if you look at thrift stores, consignment stores, facebook marketplace, ebay, whatever the UK equivalent of craigslist is

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garage sales

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etc

drowsy blade
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I said that in the first message

drowsy blade
lean grove
drowsy blade
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Last four words, “second hand is fine”

lean grove
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ah

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anyways. this is something you gotta research yourself. just be careful for fake speaker manufacturers. they try and sell like 5.1 or 7.1 surround speaker systems for """""cheap"""""

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look for something with the drivers intact, dont buy anything with the tweeter pushed in or the foam surround around the woofer getting crusty

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you might have luck finding something from polk, klipsch, kef, b&w,

drowsy blade
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This literally is research?Getting the opinions of people with the same hobby?

lean grove
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to find a good deal for you, someone is going to have to know how far you're willing to drive, know your address, see whats in your area, and then comb through the hundreds of listings for potential deals

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there's no way for me to know any of those things

drowsy blade
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I just want a few models that I can search for online

lean grove
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if i give you a list of good speakers there's no guarentee you'll find any of those or the list will be so long it will be useless

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try and look for polk, klipsch, kef, b&w, or vintage yamaha

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or literally just see what looks interesting and well taken care of and google what people say about it on reddit or one of the many audio forums

drowsy blade
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They’ll do

lean grove
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👍

drowsy blade
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Would a 60w amp be able to run 100w speakers at a “just about loud enough to not hear myself sing” level?

lean grove
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can 6 liters of water fill a 10 liter tank enough to quench your thirst? (yes. 60 watts will almost certainly get those very loud)

warm scarab
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it is incredibly difficult for someone to viably recommend you a speaker that fits your budget easily while being the best option you have

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unlike headphones and in ears which have had technological breakthroughs and a more filtered market in general

gilded pawn
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Found a good deal on soundbar at Best Buy

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Wondering if it’s worth

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And if the bar is any good

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It’s a Samsung Q750b

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For like $240

tough lava
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My quick read/take on that is that for the price, yeah

gilded pawn
# tough lava

It’s missing the reciever for the rear speakers so it’s basically a q700b

tough lava
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ahhhh

gilded pawn
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More want to know if anyone has heard one

tough lava
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from a review

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seems like basically... it's perfectly cromulent, but not amazing

gilded pawn
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Conclusion… it is in fact a soundbar

tough lava
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yeah basically

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very soundbar, such sound

gilded pawn
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Only other open box option was a Sonos beam

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And I ain’t paying for their overpriced ass subwoofer

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Lmao

tough lava
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you're welcome.

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Add that to it, and it's a steal

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wait

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$20 - fuck yeah

gilded pawn
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The reciever is on eBay for $50

tough lava
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yeah

gilded pawn
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Like they have the rear speakers

tough lava
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I would absolutely do that

gilded pawn
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It’s just not the box

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Not gonna use rears tho as it’s for a bedroom

tough lava
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ahhhhh

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honestly then I wouldn't do it

gilded pawn
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Can’t really set up rears for watching in a bedroom lol

tough lava
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My bedroom I just have a couple bookshelves and a small class D amp, it's perfect.

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I mean, I also don't have a TV in there, but I probably wouldn't change it if I did.

tough lava
haughty girder
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xd

gilded pawn
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Only thing I’m wondering is do upward firing speakers work when below a tilted tv.

tough lava
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I mean, surely you can just put rears beside the bed on either side

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that's where my actual speakers are anyway

gilded pawn
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Also have to buy a remote lol

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Found a Chinese one on Amazon for $15 lmao

tough lava
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Ok, HDMI audio is transmitted in the blanking zones, BUT HDMI eARC is transmitted unencrypted over a two wire differential signal

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with a maximum bitrate of 37MB/s

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..... this is something I can work with.

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because if I can pull raw earc and turn it into an audio bitstream, I can process positional audio in real time and do fancy stuff for a fraction of the cost, and with far more flexibility

gilded pawn
tough lava
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The device is talking to the TV

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the TV is doing earc to a seperate device

gilded pawn
tough lava
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I'm wanting to get bitstream into a computer. earc looks like the best way to do that

molten lotus
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Sounds dumb as shit
And absolutely awesome

tough lava
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because then ... you can decode dolby atmos and do all sorts of weird/cool shit

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because that will feed into the system I'm working on and you can have 17 speakers

candid cosmos
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What wont work, is using the hdmi out of your gpu and stuff for that.

What can theoredically work, some sort of active earc reciever.

Which afaik is currently not a thing ^^"

unique wind
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fiio utws5 and crinacle zero reds are not a great combo without adapters because the mount is very loose

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might have to get some right angle 2 pin extenders or something

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that or just use my qkz hbb khan even tho i prefer red

warm scarab
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I was thinking of maybe making some sort of shitty adapter by molding apoxy

unique wind
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little greyshadow engineering

fallow tide
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Got myself technics SL-MC7 110 disc player. Replaced the drive belt and found a cd was stuck in it. Took it out and it still stopping half way. Moved it fully to the end and tried again and it started to freak out kinda.

fallow tide
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Legit just loosened the bionicle elastic I used on it and now the problem is fixed.

coarse venture
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solid dirge
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Using a scarlett solo v3, and I cant hear output from my bass on 48kHz, however I can at 44.1kHz. Problem is Rocksmith doesnt detect it for some reason at 44.1. Mic works regardless

solid dirge
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I think rocksmith itself is fucking it up, this lights up before I launch the app and I guess when rocksmith recognizes it it just doesnt allow the instrument audio for some reason. I just updated the drivers

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Evidently theres a procedure. my bad, thanks

molten lotus
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Are there like settings I need to make sure are on/off in windows?

steel escarp
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The thing always has issues

solid dirge
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Ive actually had none really aside from that, and it was a game issue, over 2 years ive owned it (granted I havent been using it to its fullest but its been stable)

steel escarp
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I am a believer now of arya organic being brighter than stealth

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Tho Is it actually brighter if the bass and mids/lower treble are also louder

unique wind
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did you like it overall

tough lava
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Sound out of a PC is easy/trivial. bitstream in that isn't PCM or base spdif 1.5M/s seems to be literally impossible (with off the shelf components)

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and even >2 channel PCM in seems to be limited to high end cards like magewell

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I'm currently using a switch with audio breakout that also has an earc button to do earc-> HDMI and then a second box to breakout HDMI->6ch analog which then goes to an interface. This, while it works fine, is objectively pretty damn stupid. I have an earc->hdmi converter on the way that won't require me to push a button every time I turn off/on the TV, but that doesn't solve the stupidity, nor remove the analog link in what should be a digital chain.

unborn gale
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Fiio E10k ftw

unique wind
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o_o

undone peak
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Hey y’all I’m not very good with audio stuff but I got a aiyima DO5 and two HTM-200s (I think) I was wondering if anyone had advice for a more budget sub compatible with the amp

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Idk the name of the ports but the sub port doesn’t have a power return so idk what that means or how to get something compatible with it

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Might just be 3mm jack idk

tough lava
undone peak
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Wether or not it has lots of power going through it

tough lava
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The measured voltage difference between those two connectors is the signal - that's it, that's all you need.

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that's a "complete circuit"

undone peak
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Sorry I’m not very good with any of this

tough lava
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no, a sub is mono.

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literally two steps. Step one buy a powered sub, step 2 plug it into that plug

undone peak
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Aight

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Ty for the help

lean grove
gilded pawn
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I have aquired the soundbar

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Also bought all the missing stuff for $45 lol

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I now have a Dolby Atmos system in a college apartment bedroom for $300 lmao

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Also shout out Samsung for easy to update firmware

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Everything I’ve had that is from them let’s you do it via usb

unborn gale
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aight testing out a Tesla driver

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magnet is strong af so soldering and shit is a pain in the ass

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also requires a bunch of tuning which is also annoying

candid cosmos
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Cause atmos both has channels and positions.

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Not to mention easily 7.1.4 Layout

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Im actually not sure which speakers you can directly drive via atmos codec, might only be 5.1...

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To be totally hornest, i dont think you can decode atmos at all to a pc like that.

tough lava
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You'd be wrong 😄

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Atmos is a bonus though tbh, my original design was just regular 5.1/7.1 surround

mild rune
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Anyone here has experience using the Logitech Blue Sona? Is it worth its price? [Not planning to do heavy streaming, doing a little voice/music recording]

candid cosmos
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That you can work with that in your pc and also send encoded atmos is clear

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But getting it into the PC - is not possible like that.

tough lava
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It absolutely is possible. It's just hard.

candid cosmos
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How is it possible at all?

tough lava
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And not with off the shelf equipment.

candid cosmos
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With your given solution it is not.

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What would work is a spdif in or something on a pc.

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Anything where you can pipe Digital Sound in.

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That said is toslink even able to Transfer atmos or is it hdmi only? In that case even harder.

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I know you can pipe every normal codec through it.

tough lava
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Classic spdif is only able to do old crap, up to 1.5mb/s

candid cosmos
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So, what you say there is no solution.

tough lava
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Modern iec 60958-1 transport is basically fast spdif, but is only implemented (as far as I can see) in hdmi

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There is no current off the shelf solution

candid cosmos
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Cause there is nothing like a Digital hdmi Sound reciever for PC.

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Your earc to channel things will simply not work for atmos cause its not only channel based.

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Meaning also that it will also not be able to decode atmos at all.

tough lava
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... it's not transmitted in channels.

candid cosmos
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Exactly.

tough lava
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It's transmitted as an encoded bitstream

candid cosmos
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Exactly.

tough lava
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.... Which you can decode. With that software.

candid cosmos
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If you get it into your pc.

tough lava
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Yes.

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Which I can do.

candid cosmos
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Which is the whole thing thats not possible currently.

candid cosmos
tough lava
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Because I have a magic power where I can wield electricity and code

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Its not a matter of plugging shit in and making it work, but it is a reasonably solvable problem.

candid cosmos
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Not really.

tough lava
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.... What the fuck not really

candid cosmos
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Its simply currently not doable.

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Cause noone made a solution to get encoded Sound into your pc via a hdmi source.

tough lava
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... ok let me break this down.

candid cosmos
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And, its also not easily doable, if you think about how complex avrs are to do that.

tough lava
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Earc has effectively high speed spdif in it as an entirely seperate signal

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You don't need to do HDMI at all

candid cosmos
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Yes, which you currently cannot simply get into your pc.

tough lava
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.... Dude.

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So you have two wires, which have biphase encoding of a standardised signal.

candid cosmos
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So what you want to do is to develop a solution in Hardware and Software to work with that.

tough lava
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Translating that signal to a bitstream and getting it into a PC is a solvable problem by me within a reasonable timeframe and budget

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Ie. Probably quite a while and probably several hundred dollars or more of various things I will need to test and make it work

candid cosmos
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Have fun

molten lotus
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A friend found this and wants to know if it would work with a microphone he has

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Sorry for the blurry pictures

buoyant vale
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Probably not

molten lotus
buoyant vale
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That mic looks like a condenser and the box doesn't appear to have phantom power

molten lotus
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He doesn't know any better

cosmic wraith
uncut sky
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Is airpods max top quality headphones?

lean grove
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No

dry stratus
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no

uncut sky
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Im not talking about the prices i mean like obviously its overpriced

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But is the sound quality top notch?

dry stratus
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no

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it isn't bad

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honestly wireless will always just be alright at best..

uncut sky
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Uhh alright what about airpods pro 2?

dry stratus
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for TWS, they are great

uncut sky
dry stratus
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not even close

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and never will

lean grove
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Well. We might get to the point where wireless bluetooth is lossless

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And battery efficient at the same time

dry stratus
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still won't be physically as capable if everything has to be internal in a lightweight device

lean grove
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Might be possible is all I'm saying

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Who knows what we'll have in 5 years

dry stratus
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won't be getting the sound of a 250-600$ wired headphone setup in a 250-600$ wireless any time soon

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I like how discord doesn't keep track of who's rejoining a server with the "I'm new here"

warm scarab
warm scarab
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its with wireless stuff having to be closed back

dry stratus
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"I'm new here"
also:

dry stratus
molten lotus
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Wireless can be lossless easily, it’s just a matter of power consumption right now

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You can stream lossless over wifi so

unique wind
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wireless can EASILY handle flac stereo

warm scarab
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we already have pretty much lossless yeah

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ldac is lossless enough

unique wind
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bluetooth fucking sucks

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wireless gaming headsets already have lossless <1ms latency 30h battery life

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isnt there a weird sennheiser headphone out there somewhere that uses 2.4ghz wireless too

lean grove
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Cuz that's what we were talking about.

unique wind
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if they can get LDAC quality down to around 80ms delay before 2030 that would be awesome

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thats what i get with aptx adaptive and i dont ever perceive the delay

serene scaffold
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It would require a totally new wireless protocol

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Bluetooth is inherently too inefficient especially at higher data rates

serene scaffold
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But negligible yes

unique wind
serene scaffold
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Nope

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It's carrying way more data

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Different protocols involved

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Also sub-1ms with USB is impossible technically

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Since data packets are 1ms apart

unique wind
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thats cap your honor

serene scaffold
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I work in the industry lol

unique wind
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sorry i didnt know that you were mr USB himself

serene scaffold
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I'm curious about PS2 tho since that's interrupt based

serene scaffold
warm scarab
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has like 900kbps or something

warm scarab
molten lotus
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Not lightspeed
It’s the speed of light 🫦
0.0000000001ms

scenic widget
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Sup

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Any budget wireless headphones suggestions?
Thanks in advance!

nova wagon
scenic widget
nova wagon
scenic widget
nova wagon
scenic widget
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72$ here

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Tho maybe I thought about more like headphones

nova wagon
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then theres the tune 710bt

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no anc tho

scenic widget
scenic widget
nova wagon
scenic widget
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aight thx man

scenic widget
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so ofc you'd recommend it over the 710 right?

serene scaffold
white gate
lean grove
white gate
lean grove
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Is it dark like the original one?

white gate
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They're suuuuper fast sounding

uncut sky
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Hyperx cloud 2 good quality?

lean grove
uncut sky
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Why does it sound bad

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i dont really understand the audio tech terminology

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I would love if there was a video to explain everything about it

lean grove
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It's just tuned poorly. Sounds like you're listening to music through a cave.

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There's a lot of bass and a lot of treble, so things sound really boomy and harsh at the same time.

uncut sky
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Cant this be fixed in some software?

lean grove
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Yeah you can eq it to be better. But that's kinda complicated to do it right for a beginner

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It's just gonna be better to get something that sounds good.

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So something like the koss ksc75, koss porta pro, or truthear hola or truthear zero red are gonna be way better than the clouds while costing less

uncut sky
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Theres something i still dont understand why does everyone in here

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Say any mainstream headset automatically

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Garbage

lean grove
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Because pretty much all of them are.

buoyant vale
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its almost like they are

warm scarab
lean grove
# uncut sky Garbage

Think about how this is for you as a new person to understand these terms. People don't usually think what makes a good headphone, they kinda just look at the specs, features, or looks and choose based off that.

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So there's no reason for companies to actually make something good

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All they need to do is have a lot of marketing and check the boxes

uncut sky
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I mean its kind of complicated

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I wanna understand this stuff but idk where to start

lean grove
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Exactly. And there's not a great way for people to easily understand what makes a pair of headphones good.

warm scarab
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majority of every item falls in the latter

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for almost every case, this is inexclusive to headphones

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you can see the same pattern in mice

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keyboards

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televisions

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monitors

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knives

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frying pans

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cutting boards

buoyant vale
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how bad can you make a cutting board?

warm scarab
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you can make a very good one instead

lean grove
warm scarab
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that wasn't the idea what I had

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I was commenting on the protective element it provides knives

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chopping boards are an important way to ensure good knives stay good and keep them sharp for a long time

lean grove
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Klaus gives off line cook vibes

solid dirge
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aluminum cutting board

warm scarab
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I am not a cook at all

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I assure you

solid dirge
lean grove
warm scarab
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I despise cooking

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my mom has a glass cutting board lmao

solid dirge
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why

lean grove
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I bet Klaus makes a mean döner

warm scarab
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I sharpened her every knife and a month later they all went blunt again

solid dirge
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Why is that actually a thing

warm scarab
lean grove
warm scarab
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yeah

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super easy to clean

solid dirge
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Im sure but

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🪨

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May as well use that

warm scarab
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I use a dremel to sharpen knives

solid dirge
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good lord

warm scarab
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fuck everyone who doesn't like this

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literal paid operatives

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nooo you can't use a powertool you need to use a shitty stone like in prehistoric ages or else....... bad things happen!!! 😭 😭

solid dirge
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Hey, you do you man lmao

lean grove
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I use a ball peen hammer

solid dirge
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Once you are at that point I cant help ya

warm scarab
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no

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I will personally bring the end of every person who uses a sharpening knife

#

pretentious assholes

solid dirge
#

Sharp safe Dull dangerous

warm scarab
#

bro you gotta see the knvies i sharpen

#

shitty 0.1% carbon knives that cut like razors

lean grove
warm scarab
#

how

lean grove
#

Fingertips are overrated

warm scarab
#

fingers are overrated

solid dirge
#

My fingernail saved a good chunk of my finger I think lmao

lean grove
solid dirge
#

You straight up make them from scratch, no chopper?

quaint stratus
#

Hey audio geeks whats your oppinion on my mental disease? Yes its a pc psu with the 12volt rails bridged powering a 1.2 Farrad cap powering an like 20yo amp thats got 5 subwoofers (2l 3r) and 6 towers (3l 3r) on it xD

solid dirge
#

Or like how did you manage that lmao

lean grove
#

As tempting as it would be, it takes me like 5 minutes to chop 2 potatoes

#

This was a peeler

solid dirge
#

Why are you peeling for fries

lean grove
#

Because these ones got nasty ass rot cracks running through them

solid dirge
#

Fair

lean grove
#

Helps me see what I need to cut out

quaint stratus
#

Use a metal scrubber

#

Just scrub the potatos

#

Works

lean grove
#

Rot cracks

#

They run through the potato

#

You can't scrub them off you need to cut them out

quaint stratus
#

Do they taste bad?

solid dirge
#

At that point i grab a small knife

candid cosmos
lean grove
mortal fractal
#

i figure you know how to prevent insanity from neighbor noise

quaint stratus
#

also the amp is 1.6k watt my subs are 3,2k watts and the psu is 450 watt

#

lol

#

somehow works tho

lean grove
#

Well I doubt you're ever gonna pull anything more than 450 watts at your desk

quaint stratus
#

i do

#

tripped the psu multiple times XD

lean grove
#

Rip your hearing

molten lotus
#

Rip hearing and I’m sure the neighbors hate you

wispy surge
#

got my DT770 the other day and i can say you were dead dead WRONG, they are really good headphones

#

@warm scarab

unborn gale
#

because cap

warm scarab
#

hmmm yes the studio headphone does better than my 40$ gaming headset

unborn gale
#

lmao

warm scarab
#

who would have expected this???

molten lotus
#

I will go feral defending my grado sr80x, full frothing at the mouth
But they’re still not amazing headphones KEKW KEKW

warm scarab
#

dankpods viewer spotted

molten lotus
#

Nah I actually own a pair, they’re fun

warm scarab
#

are you a dankpods viewer

molten lotus
#

No comment

warm scarab
#

tale as old as time

molten lotus
#

Shut I like being able to hear individual grains of sand move under people’s feet in movies KEKW

long flame
#

Should I get a hyperx solo cast or an audio technica ATR 1200x for streaming and discord?

long flame
#

Okay, thanks 👍

tough lava
#

The timing packets are 1ms apart, but at non-basic-bitch USB speeds, they are much more frequent

serene scaffold
#

Mice use full speed USB

#

As do most gaming headsets

tough lava
serene scaffold
#

Ye pretty much

tough lava
#

and even if they do - it's not impossible to make a headset or mouse with high speed USB

serene scaffold
#

Sure but they don't exist yet

tough lava
#

which doesn't make it impossible

#

just that current devices don't implement it.

#

I realise I'm nitpicking, but "impossible" is not the right word at all

serene scaffold
#

Probably nobody will bother, since it would cause a ton of compatibility issues for no perceptible benefit

#

USB 2.0 audio is definitely a thing, but consoles don't support it so gaming headsets don't use it

tough lava
#

and until semi-recently windows didn't supported it - and even now have implemented only the parts they felt like

serene scaffold
#

Yeah

tough lava
#

So you either deal with those limitations or you need a seperate driver

serene scaffold
#

I've noticed setting it to 384khz on my DAC makes some programs not work lol

#

Because only up to 192khz was ever generally available

tough lava
#

everything to 48khz, internal processing of stuff at 96khz, best compromise

unborn gale
#

btw what even is the difference between 48/192/384khz

tough lava
unborn gale
#

what does it even do

serene scaffold
#

There might be extremely small differences depending on source file, DAC, and what oversampling is or isn't used but a lot of that is audiophool shit

#

Most helpful thing for Windows audio is using exclusive mode

molten lotus
#

I finally found a song I easily notice a difference between quality
Immigrant Song

tough lava
# unborn gale what does it even do

the main reason to use higher frequencies is when you're processing the audio - if you're simply playing it, 48khz is all you will ever need

unborn gale
#

aight

serene scaffold
#

Audio that's poorly down sampled/dithered down to Redbook can sound worse than the master file ofc but usually that isn't easy to fuck up that badly

tough lava
#

You have to try pretty hard tbh.

serene scaffold
#

Windows audio problems for example come more from other parts of the DSP chain than the resampler itself

tough lava
#

Windows audio makes baby Jesus cry

molten lotus
#

Any windows audio shit I should look out for

serene scaffold
#

Ez way to fix it is exclusive mode if your music software supports it

#

Otherwise, you can install EQ APO and apply a -1db or so preamp to prevent limiter from kicking in and try to keep your windows settings at the sample rate of your music (usually 44.1khz)

molten lotus
#

Yeahh I get a shitload of distortion in higher frequencies

#

Shit sounds like poprocks

serene scaffold
#

That sounds like a different problem

#

Drivers or system scheduling (technically also driver related)

#

I've had problems like that on some computers where it would skip or pop randomly

tough lava
#

clocks are hard

molten lotus
#

Yeah like in Stairway to Heaven even on Qobuz 24bit/96hz wasapi exclusive I’m getting bad peaking in the cymbals and higher guitar notes

blazing magnet
#

What is the best wireless headsets I can buy for gaming on my PC

blazing magnet
#

any

#

give me a low and mid and high range option

tough lava
#

eyyyy that's better

unborn gale
static acorn
#

.

#

Damn this is dense

hexed flame
#

but my personal preference is using one of my headphones with a modmic

blazing magnet
#

I don’t need a mic on the headset I have a boom arm and mic

static acorn
#

wireless ones exist

hexed flame
#

yeah then its really just a matter of whether or not you want to eventually get an amp and dac

#

if dont want to bother with an amp, even a small one then your options are pretty straightforward

blazing magnet
#

I just want a wireless headset for gaming that does not have a microphone. What is the best option?

static acorn
#

wireless headphones aren’t suited to gaming

#

not that I’ve heard of

hexed flame
#

just look up wireless headphones and take your pick, Id reccomend Bose QuietComforts or Sony WH-1000XM4s

static acorn
#

Or honestly use a controller to game, and plug them into the 3.5mm Jack :p

hexed flame
#

nah thats not true, as long as the output audio is in stereo, regular headphones are the same

static acorn
#

and use IEMs

hexed flame
#

gaming headsets like to add fake surround sound through software that just alters the games audio from what is originally intended to be played

#

games like Tarkov and what not all ready do that so you just need a decent pair of stereo headphones

static acorn
#

I mean easy pick is the Beyerdynamic DT 700 Pro X, I plug mine in w/o any external amplification

#

and optimal if noise isolation is somewhat necessary

hexed flame
#

Sennheiser makes pretty good wireless headphones too but I place their ANC below Sonys

static acorn
#

no luck if people are interacting in your room though

static acorn
#

I’ve personally had cases where it did, even playing videos on YouTube the audio didn’t keep up with the subtitles

hexed flame
#

not really, LDAC from Sony and AptX have pretty much eliminated it

static acorn
#

yay

hexed flame
#

not entirely but if you're within 15 feet there shouldnt be a noticeble latency

static acorn
#

It was still a concern not 3 years ago

#

iirc

hexed flame
#

yeah it just depends on what codec is being supported

#

most good PC motherboard bluetooth should support bluetooth 5, aka they support AptX and LDAC

#

not sure if bluetooth 4.2 supports them

static acorn
#

what codecs are the high latency ones?

#

Or shat upon by “audiophiles”/audio lovers

#

@hexed flame

hexed flame
#

SBC and whatever apple is still using for whatever reason

#

I guess I should mention that AptX has a specific low latency codec

#

thats the best one allegedly but I havent had anything to try it with

tough lava
#

The thing is this all applies to headphones. If you are using it as a headset the quality goes to absolute dogshit

static acorn
static acorn
craggy wolf
#

I'm looking for a gaming headset for cheap in australia budget below 80.
Seen g335 but if there is better options please ping me

warm scarab
#

and you recommend something with like 100ms delay

#

@blazing magnet @static acorn

#

quite literally measures 200ms with sbc

#

low latency codecs are entirely a meme because of how windows uses them

#

they are only useful for phones and for special bluetooth receivers that mask themselves as audio devices

#

even then there is notable difference

unique wind
#

creative bt-w4 go brrrr

#

i think the new bt-w5 lets you choose between 280kbps 50ms and 420kbps 80ms but the w4 that i have just locks to 80ms

molten lotus
#

Aren’t there plenty of 2.4GHz headphones out there?

warm scarab
#

yes but he recommended bluetooth ones

#

which are technically 2.4ghz

molten lotus
#

Ew

unique wind
#

i wanna use tws adapters on susvara

#

i bet ifi go pod would have no problems

haughty girder
#

but the worst would be aptx 2009 or low bitrate aac

#

Apple is the one exception to the AAC audio quality issues because they are higher bitrate and generally better processed than android competiton

molten lotus
#

I rip most of my CDs in ALAC is that bad pepoJuice

haughty girder
#

no

#

alac uses the same container as flac

#

It's basically just flac with a different name

#

so yea

low fossil
#

Is there a modern equivalent of an iPod or similar on the market or should I just get an old android phone and use it solely for audio (my current phone doesn't have enough extra space)?

steep sierra
#

DAPs?

unique wind
steep sierra
#

true

molten lotus
haughty girder
#

ok fair enough

haughty girder
unique wind
#

ah

#

two bad headphone manufacturers coming together

#

maybe two negatives will make a positive

warm scarab
#

it wont

#

if anything it will desaturate the market and lowering competition

unique wind
#

the only thing audeze had that i would ever consider recommending is the maxwell

peak yacht
#

i enjoyed the bass on the lcd 4s and the lcd 5s

#

i did list the 5s for sale to get a pair of newtopias tho

unborn gale
#

I think Sony just acquired Audeze

dry stratus
#

rip any sound quality

molten lotus
#

“Don’t you guys like bass???”

low fossil
static acorn
#

First Corsair acquired drop

#

now Sony tries to fork Audeze

#

Afaik Sennheiser also pawned off their audiophile division to someone else

cinder flax
#

Sennheiser sold their consumer hardware devision to some swiss hearing aid company. And before they did that they left their joint venture for their gaming stuff (now branded Epos) and left it with their partner, who's a danish hearing aid company. Heh...

scenic widget
#

Hey, opinions on Skullcandy Hesh Evo
or JBL Tune 770NC?
Thanks a lot!

molten lotus
#

I know crin’s not the end all/be all of headphone reviewers but I was told the IE600s are bad and they’re like #9 on his database

molten lotus
unique wind
#

tuff

molten lotus
#

Y’all hyping up the reds smh my h

unique wind
molten lotus
unique wind
#

if you hear sibilance in a song it's probably the song's fault

#

reds have no treble peaks and have incredibly low distortion

#

perhaps the additional mud on aria and ie600 from the lack of an upperbass scoop before the bass shelf cover up the sibilance but i dont know

#

could be any number of things

molten lotus
#

It’s on most of the songs I tried, tried the same songs on the others no issue

#

Maybe I got a bad unit?

unique wind
#

could also be that you play red louder without knowing it because they have less bass and low distortion which draws out the sibilance

#

honestly no way of knowing

molten lotus
unique wind
#

im gonna play the song you mentioned earlier

molten lotus
#

Stairway to Heaven? See you in 10 minutes KEKW
Also Immigrant song

unique wind
#

yeah i dont know man i listened to like 5:00 through 7:30 and it sounded pretty normal to me

#

the cymbals were sharp and clear but that's how theyre supposed to be, they didnt sound distorted or peaky

molten lotus
#

Must really be on my end

unique wind
#

i wanna try these with the resistor i havent done that yet

#

since ive only used them with utws5

#

im gonna plug them into my motherboard real quick because i dont feel like plugging my amp in

#

dont tell klaus

#

nvm that output has some sort of eq on it and realtek audio console wont open

#

guess i am plugging the stack in

#

@molten lotus i’m with you i prefer it without the resistor

molten lotus
#

5:38–5:58 I get some atrocious crackling sounds

unique wind
#

the bass is cool and all but i dont like the treble reduction

tough adder
#

Hi, just wondering if it’s possible to plug my pc to a soundbar. My pc has an hdmi 2.1 port and the soundbar has hdmi arc to tv. I think all I need is an hdmi 2.1 cable since the cable I might have is 2.0. Appreciate it.

molten lotus
#

Ahhh looks like the original recordings for led zeppelin’s early albums are just…not great KEKW

#

Yeaaa I’m trying some sibilance monsters like White Dress and it’s fine KEKW

mortal fractal
unique wind
molten lotus
#

Real

willow root
#

is it possibly to get a good headphone and interface combo for like 200

#

id like to plug my guitar into it if possible

jolly vine
scenic thicket
#

How do I connect my headphones to the pic of my headphones only have 1 male and this has 2 female?

warm scarab
#

m track solo

warm scarab
#

presuming one of the ports is for mic input

willow root
warm scarab
#

hd560s is a lot better if you can get open backs

willow root
#

even though i know they are good i cant bring myself to buy something that looks so wack

warm scarab
#

💀

willow root
#

i could but ill be living in a dorm soon enough so it wouldnt be a good idea

warm scarab
#

what is the point of even asking for headphones if you want them based on their looks man

willow root
#

i usally dont care

#

but spend 100+ i gotta care a little

warm scarab
#

bro its a headphone

willow root
#

they also do not look very comfortable

warm scarab
#

its not like you go on walks with it

willow root
#

is that the only closed back option

warm scarab
#

everything else I know is a lot worse

willow root
#

what about headphones thats are like a little bit more

#

maybe ill find a sale

warm scarab
#

cheapest I know is emu teak

#

500 usd

willow root
#

well then

static acorn
#

499 USD stock, but you can apply for cable upgrades (mainly in flexibility and connector type) that are about 50 USD more iirc

#

.

#

Disclaimer you probably need a headphone amplifier for this thing, it’s inefficient af

willow root
#

is it possible to get like an amp and interface thing

#

so i can still plug in guitar

#

nevermind

static acorn
#

Uhh lol don’t plug this into an audio interface

willow root
#

they are 500 dollars

static acorn
#

Just enable audio monitoring if need be :p

#

Through windows 10/11

static acorn
willow root
#

i only wanted to spend 200 😭

static acorn
#

Or at least a Topping DX3 Pro+ which is about 119 USD

#

Wait what

static acorn
willow root
#

i would but earbuds bother my ears after a while

static acorn
#

Well you see most interfaces have a very underpowered headphone Jack

willow root
#

and me like bass

static acorn
#

K sure

#

Meze 99 Neo or Noir

#

bass cannons :p

#

and closed back, but don’t really offer isolation if it’s an urgent need

willow root
#

but also like clear

static acorn
#

Only headphone I know that does this is the Final Audio Sonorous III

willow root
#

i prefer clarity over bass

#

but like

static acorn
#

no amp needed for this one

static acorn
willow root
#

having little bass sucks

static acorn
#

or Grado 💀

willow root
#

lmao

static acorn
willow root
#

welp

#

still 400 dollars

static acorn
#

Choose then

#

Bass or clarity

#

If you’re willing to try an equaliser, you can get both sorta

#

With the Meze 99 Noir

willow root
#

i mean i have airpods which do bass good enough

static acorn
#

I have seen a guitarist use it (albeit the more expensive classic version) for its warm tone

#

Probably not the worst purchase u can make if you won’t use these to monitor studio recordings or anything serious

willow root
#

well

#

the thing is my cloud alphas are deteriorating and i use headphones a lot at my desk

static acorn
#

what price are the mezes

willow root
#

and going to college i’m going to be at my desk a lot

#

and i’d rather plug my guitar into my computer than a big amp and listen through headphones or something

static acorn
#

directly

willow root
static acorn
#

That does need an interface

willow root
#

that’s why i wanted an interface

#

that was also part of the original question

static acorn
#

Headphone suggestion doesn’t

static acorn
#

Man I sound unprofessional 🤦‍♂️

willow root
#

you sound smarter than anyone than i’ve talked to 😭

static acorn
#

Throw in the mezes

willow root
#

that’s what like

#

300

static acorn
#

._.

#

Maybe just try IEMs

#

I know FiiO loves to allow you to change tips easily

willow root
#

i don’t mind paying for quality it’s not like i don’t hav the money

static acorn
#

And they come with like 12 of them

willow root
#

i just don’t like wasting money

#

it has to be worth it

static acorn
#

I get you

willow root
#

and reasonable ofc

#

maybe i can try iems

#

do they at least have some sort bass

static acorn
willow root
#

soooo

static acorn
#

So might have a dip in the midrange (vocals, snare drum, heavy metal guitar take a back seat)

#

but probably what you’d look for if you like rap or electronic music

willow root
#

uh

static acorn
#

not stereotyping, just phrasing for the sake of my explanation

willow root
#

nono i understand

#

i just listen to everything

static acorn
#

Hmm see if the DUNU Titan S fit your fancy

willow root
#

i just want something that’s fun to listen to

static acorn
#

they’re not V shaped

willow root
#

while not sounding stupid

static acorn
#

And tuning wise don’t “force” a sound onto you

static acorn
#

Though assuming you’ve only used gaming headsets or mainstream stuff it should be

willow root
#

i like “full” sound idek if that makes sense

static acorn
#

Well it is an audiophile term 😬

willow root
#

learning already

static acorn
#

probably don’t look for a V shape then

#

Boosted treble means it can sound thin

#

Again avoid sennheiser, beyerdynamic, Grado

willow root
#

i listen to music while staring at walls for hours so i just like feeling immersed in it

#

i appreciate you helping though i am a kind of difficult person

static acorn
#

for hygiene reasons

#

Best bet is to actually purchase them, and return dung suitors within warranty period barring they forbid you try them at all :p

willow root
#

lmao this is true

static acorn
#

Well what id also avoid is sennheiser IEMs, not just their headphones

#

Pretty bad ear tips out of the box

willow root
#

i’ll just get iems and put a subwoofer on my head

static acorn
#

Haha

#

if you did have the budget I would’ve said Periodic Audio Titanium

#

Goddamn bass cannon and very isolating

#

-36dB noise reduction (probably a little too much honestly)

willow root
#

what the

static acorn
#

It’s a cash furnace yes

willow root
#

they are only 130

#

i could do that

static acorn
#

oh damn

willow root
#

well

static acorn
#

Replaceable cable or stuck on?

willow root
#

that is if they are the right ones

static acorn
willow root
static acorn
willow root
#

i have a feeling it’s the ones that say 200

static acorn
#

👏

willow root
#

oh really

#

that’s exciting

static acorn
#

Wait a min brb

#

imma see for myself

willow root
#

lmao that’s ok

static acorn
#

Oh I was thinking of the V2

#

which did have that crazy noise reduction figure

#

at least they made it better sound wise

#

no more bleeding into midrange as b4

#

Seems to fit your definition of “full” sounding

#

add to your hit list :p Periodic Audio Titanium V3

willow root
#

i can’t even find the v2s

#

wonder if they took them all off the market when they released the v3s

static acorn
#

probably

#

I found them for USD 199 on Amazon, but they look like the old ones to me

#

Afaik they weren’t cheap last year

willow root
#

hmmm

#

maybe the v2s were a lot better than the v3s

static acorn
#

Nah

#

They didn’t have a detachable cable

willow root
#

oh btw would i be able to use those for like games i would need to be able to hear a pretty good difference between sounds from like the left and right if yk what i mean

static acorn
#

So if you were sick of it’s noisy property, gl replacing it

static acorn
willow root
#

so are the new ones good

#

for that

static acorn
#

EqualiserAPO might be helpful

#

and use Graphic EQ if you want to easily tailor the sound, or Parametric if you’re inclined to paste settings :p

willow root
#

hmmm

static acorn
#

Another discussion for another day btw

#

It’s got it’s own rabbit hole separate from headphones alone

willow root
#

i’ll see if there are any video reviews

static acorn
#

UHHH

willow root
#

angry uhh

static acorn
#

don’t do YT shorts or anything

#

not very reliable

willow root
#

well not shorts ofc

static acorn
#

I find articles are somewhat more accurate

willow root
#

i shall look for those

static acorn
#

and video reviews are a bore

#

For audio

willow root
#

what does intimate soundstage mean lol

#

like everything blends together orrr

static acorn
#

Well it doesn’t separate well

#

If you take their word for it, no no for FPS gaming

#

sigh

#

After a legendary gaming IEM? Final Audio VR3000

#

But it’s sound signature is like tailored for soundstage

#

so regular listening is weird on them

static acorn
#

@willow root

willow root
#

hmmm

#

this is harder than i thought

#

i don’t need them to be perfect for gaming i just need them to be usable

static acorn
#

Well they’re usable

#

Im just saying final audio has like a talent for soundstage

#

Tell me what u think of this

willow root
#

i just feel like music is a little more important than gaming

#

i also have a bad habit of always having one side of my headphones off while playing games anyways

static acorn
#

Where are you located geographically btw

willow root
#

east coast us

static acorn
#

ik the US has a few hifi audio stores

willow root
#

i feel like good sounding music and ok sounding game is way more important to me than good sounding game and ok music

static acorn
#

Makes everything sound fine, nothing too bad or good

#

same with Truthear X Crinacle Zero

willow root
#

they are only like 80 bucks too

#

hmmm

static acorn
#

yes new times new prices

#

and the IEM market is booming on the budget end

#

Perhaps there’ll be like 5 new meta by the time you ask again in this channel KEKW

willow root
#

lmao possibly

#

i just love good quality visual stuff and audio

#

makes my brain happy

static acorn
#

and it’s been given a pass for music too

#

I say this should be first auditioned 👍

willow root
#

do you have fun sharing all this stuff id feel better if you did lol

static acorn
#

Yes

#

what student likes schoolwork 🙄

willow root
#

lmao

#

this is also true

static acorn
willow root
static acorn
#

Give them a go

#

Although at that point probably invest in the apple USB-C dongle

#

to counter any static noise issues

#

which some people report with IEMs straight plugged in

willow root
#

to what

static acorn
#

Well I assume you’ve seen and heard the TV static meme

willow root
#

uh

static acorn
#

basically the audio portion can be present sometimes when using IEMs

#

Because bloody small things require bloody small amounts of power

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But they’re usually connected to a big device that slurps hundreds of watts of power (a PC)

willow root
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only problem is

static acorn
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And this causes them to pick up on noise in the big circuit

willow root
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actually

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my pc case didn’t have a working usb c port but i changed the motherboard and i don’t remember if it fixed that

static acorn
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Bugger

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USB port hub (:

willow root
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i can check but it is almost 2 am and i don’t feel like getting out of bed

static acorn
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that’s not a $2 bin occupant

willow root
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lmao i’d never let myself buy something i’d never use

static acorn
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Mhm

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if you use a laptop I’m hoping it comes with USB-C

willow root
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i do not own a laptop somehow

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although i plan to before college

static acorn
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right

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It isn’t absolutely necessary to get the USB-C thing

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Just buy the zero IEM first and see if the issue presents itself

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Then decide

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personally I found static to be like tinnitus; yes I live with it but if I could replace my hearing organs I would

willow root
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are the titan s headphones the same quality as the crinical zeros

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in terms of sound ofc

static acorn
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can’t say

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but they offer the same tuning

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or at least don’t prioritise one genre of music over another

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Like sennheiser HD800S or Meze 99 Noir do (first is better for orchestral due to treble/upper midrange focus and amazing soundstage, latter does EDM better)

willow root
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hmmm

static acorn
willow root
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that is probably the smart option

static acorn
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or more expensive so you feel better later when the Titan craps out and you find zero better (hah take that rich brainwashing folk)

lean grove
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dunu kinda irrelevent with latest truthears

static acorn
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doesn’t say much

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aside from a subjective preference for the latter

lean grove
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well we dont know what chriss' subjective preference is so why not go with the safer options

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from truthear

static acorn
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That’s what I said

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Cheaper one first

willow root
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uh

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idek what my preference is

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i just want anything that doesn’t sounds flat and has somewhat of a bass response

lean grove
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truthear zero

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comes with a little adapter dongle to make the bass go boom

willow root
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that i can wear for long hours at a time practically everyday

lean grove
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i wear my truthear's all day at work.