#audio-tech

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unique wind
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$25 tws that are actually tuned

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i wonder why the amazon reviews are bad imma read them

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they have three bass levels u can choose from too

last turret
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buenos dias

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how to reduce noisey speakers?

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using xlr, an external interface and pc (which is causing the interference has been put on a different electrical group in my house. The latter helped considerably but did not get it to where its supposed to be

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any tips?

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inb4 faraday cage around my pc

lean grove
last turret
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powered

lean grove
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Which ones do you have?

last turret
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when there is no signal to the speakers they hiss on their own

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inb4 getting lynched

lean grove
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Oh. No way to fix that I'm afraid

last turret
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krk classic 7

lean grove
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Only thing you can do is put them further away from yourself

last turret
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put my pc in another room I guess

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or that

lean grove
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No

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PC isn't the problem

last turret
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it is

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the moment I turn it off

lean grove
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It's the electronics inside the krk's

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Oh huh?

last turret
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and produce a signal

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so they arent in stand by

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its fine

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its a decently powerful pc but even not on load

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apparently they are known to be fucky wucky when it comes to dc interference and magnatic fields

lean grove
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Well yes but I don't think they could project a significant level of emf from several feet away

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Like within a few inches of your psu, CPU, or GPU yeah I could see that

last turret
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well I dindt either

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but it does

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ive tested the speakers in the living room with another source

lean grove
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Does the noise change if you move your PC closer

last turret
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which is fine

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im not going to move my pc around when its on

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😄

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also

lean grove
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Then move the cables and the speakers instead

last turret
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I can literally hear the hiss fade when I turn it off

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interface is still on

lean grove
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It might be the electrical ground between the speakers and the computer

last turret
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that would be the mains

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i've considered that too

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shitty grounding

warm scarab
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what in the fuck

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moondrop back in game?

lean grove
last turret
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id be surprising but possible, do you happen to know how to test it without special equipment or do I just google it

last turret
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and worked fine

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the interface

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too

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also

lean grove
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Idk then.

last turret
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no cables plugged into the speakers

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except power, still hisses

lean grove
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Might need the faraday cage then

last turret
lean grove
warm scarab
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really

lean grove
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Idk if they're back in the game. Truthear are too good value for wired

warm scarab
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we can actually recommend something to people who ask for 25$ in ears now

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no longer the days of collectively making fun of people until they leave audio chat for expecting 30$ tws

tepid torrent
warm scarab
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its a part of the process

tepid torrent
unborn gale
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is this too much internal space?

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it's a speaker with 50mm drivers, which is also how wide the circles are

lean grove
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what 50mm to inches. 10 inches?

unborn gale
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I want to test out air pressure, idc about sound quality

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2in

lean grove
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oh i was thinking 50 cm

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uh maybe. depends on the Vd

unborn gale
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interior is 1 x 3 x 2.5in

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it's not big of course, but would it be sufficient

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since I'm just afraid that it would have too much space and I wouldn't be able to test out air pressure.

lean grove
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what you could do is plug it into a subwoofer software and see what the airspeed of the port is

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"port"

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and only plug in one driver

lean grove
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@unique wind

unique wind
ornate linden
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it's organic

unique wind
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this has genuinely ruined my day

molten lotus
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Suprisingly my former JBLs scored better than the momentum 4 in rtings in quality audio, considering they are about half of the price

tepid torrent
inland bobcat
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Audio

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Green light

molten lotus
inland bobcat
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Got my satellite antenna on roof

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Works great with SDR

unborn gale
fallen mulch
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Hi, I usually listen EDM, pop, bass-boosted songs. Which one is better choice to me: HD 280 PRO vs K361

steel escarp
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It only got a few small 12db treble peaks

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How does everyone say it has less treble than arya stealth

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Can't be arya organic

oak surge
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Bose QuietComfort Earbuds II Truly Wireless vs airpods pro 2?

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I'm an iphone user and my previous earbuds is airpods 2, and the headphone im using now is dt770 pro

steel escarp
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I probably get to listen to it next week

steel escarp
oak surge
steel escarp
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The Bose look like an absolute mess without EQ. I don't think they'd bother making a preset that fixes to a good enough point it if they already have such lousy tuning out of the box.

unique wind
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ananda nano has really jacked upper treble like that

molten lotus
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Tempted to buy some mdr-7506 just as a baseline

unique wind
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dont do it

molten lotus
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Gimme that flat line

unique wind
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sir it is no bueno

molten lotus
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I want a flat reference for educational purposes

unique wind
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look at that channel imbalance man

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and wonky distortion

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sennheiser hd560s would be a much better option for what you want

molten lotus
unique wind
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@molten lotus @lean grove @warm scarab i bought crinny reds

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my iem collection grows

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i wonder if ill like them more than my qkz x hbb khan

warm scarab
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did you receive them

unique wind
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they come sunday

unique wind
blissful blade
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theres other factors such as distortion and channel imbalance, but theres also the fact that neutral sound is boring for a lot of people

warm scarab
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they use diffuse field as the treble target

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and harman speaker target for the bass

unique wind
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dont take rtings number scores as the word of god, just look at their measurements

unique wind
lean grove
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Disappointed

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But also relieved

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Like learning that an abusive ex died from a tragic steam roller accident

unique wind
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you can be relieved that your bank balance isnt being threatened anymore

warm scarab
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hifiman on their own to make their every headphone worse

blissful blade
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ive bought maybe one thing from hifiman

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and its a usb dac

unique wind
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i have 400se and sundara

blissful blade
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first good headphones i bought were samson smn's

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then dt 770 pros

lean grove
blissful blade
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i might mod my dt 770's some day to make it a removable cable

unique wind
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lit

buoyant vale
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Blender mod is best for beyers

lean grove
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Nyvo special

unique wind
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@lean grove are you gonna grab $800 refurb arya stealth or are you in a committed marriage to your 6xx

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you told me last time u wanted to grab a new headband for it

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suspension strap 6xx would be baller

lean grove
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Like I've spent more money on headphones than speakers and speakers bring me way more joy.

unique wind
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that is an extremely rational statement tbh

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6xx are endgame headphones anyway

lean grove
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Waiting for directiva r2 are taking 5 ever

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I might just settle for dxt mons

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Then get an shd studio, a couple of nice dacs, do an active crossover and idk what after that.

glad creek
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I just need to buy new pads for my hd 600 and continue spending everything on speakers

unique wind
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hold

molten lotus
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One day I won’t be in a 600sq ft apartment and can dabble with speakers

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Unfortunately buying a house right now is a smoothbrain move

lean grove
molten lotus
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Is the difference that huge?
I’m just using an AT vinyl player through a generic sony stereo and generic sony floor standers

lean grove
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I think the dxt mons are down to 500

molten lotus
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Mmm, to google I go

warm scarab
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at least you will acquire minor soldering abilites

warm scarab
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what stylus you got

molten lotus
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Just the generic cheap audiotechnica one
Pre-amp is built in too KEKW

warm scarab
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lowkey bruh

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ath makes some good cartridges here and there

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you could upgrade to a higher end one

molten lotus
warm scarab
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assuming your player has a counterweight and removable cart

molten lotus
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Cat’s a bigger audiophile than I am

molten lotus
scenic thicket
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@warm scarab

warm scarab
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n700nc m2 >>>

scenic thicket
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R those good tho?

warm scarab
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yeah

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probably the best over ear bluetooth anc headphones you can get

scenic thicket
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Can’t find them

warm scarab
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akg n700nc m2

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also I can see your address

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I am on my way I'll find some

scenic thicket
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😔

warm scarab
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try looking elsewhere and not amazon

scenic thicket
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Link

warm scarab
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akg is not on usa amazon generally

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for no real reason

unique wind
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n700nc m2 are hard to find

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they only exist in theory

molten lotus
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Ah, fuck

warm scarab
unique wind
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🙀

ornate linden
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Who's the arya organic coper here

lean grove
ornate linden
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sounds like you just gotta power it properly

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That'll fix the +10db peaks

warm scarab
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for real tho

unique wind
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we were hoping it would be good and then it wasnt

tough grove
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I need help. My Cloud Alpha makes echo in Discord. They hear people talking ingame and videos i watch

lean grove
lean grove
# tough grove Poor shielding?

At some point the electrical signal for your headphones is bleeding into your mic. You've got a wire for your mic and a wire for your headphones going to the same place. I think the problem is the wires for those aren't properly separated.

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They might be touching someplace, it might be going through the ground connector, idk

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But this is a problem with a lot of gaming headsets.

molten lotus
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Piezo and silicon membranes? Sounds dope

lean grove
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There's no way we can be disappointed twice in a row

rocky spruce
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If i were to get a amp for 250 ohm dt880, would the Sound quality increase by à noticable différence ?

scenic thicket
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YOOOOOOOOOO

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R these good?

rocky spruce
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I did notice Ă  big improve ment when getting the Headset, but eh, i aint quite Ă  good listener

lean grove
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Higher impedance headphones are less impacted by an amp. Since the amp sees them as easier to power.

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But I guess it also depends on the amp.

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If you get a nice tube amp then it'll be a different experience than a clean measuring amp

rocky spruce
lean grove
scenic thicket
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300

lean grove
# rocky spruce I dont understand everything you just said

You got the 32 ohm, 250 ohm, and 600 ohm versions, right?

When you have a lower ohm the headphones can be changed more by the amp. When you have a higher ohm it's less reliant on the amp. The amp has an easier time doing high ohm so it doesn't struggle as much. And the struggle is what usually changes the sound. And that comes through as distortion and output impedance.

rocky spruce
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Okay now i do understand

lean grove
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But amps can still change sound even with high impedance stuff, but it's gonna be subtle

rocky spruce
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But i think that ill be fine whitout Ă n amp then

lean grove
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If you're happy with what you have now there's not much reason to upgrade.

lean grove
scenic thicket
scenic thicket
lean grove
# scenic thicket Should I?

Yeah. Take a look at it.
It's the best wireless headset on the market right now.

The only two downsides is that it doesn't have ANC and its a bit heavy. But everything else is way better than the xm5.

lean grove
molten lotus
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This is the third time they’ve asked about these Sony headphones today

haughty girder
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for sound quality? sucks

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actually quite bad

unique wind
wicked dagger
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These Nissan speakers are somehow surprisingly bassy for how pathetic that magnet is

lean grove
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Magnet alone won't determine how much bass they'll have

unique wind
molten lotus
haughty girder
exotic schooner
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who knew that mcintosh made car radios?

unborn gale
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when the radio costs more than the car itself

exotic schooner
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it was pulled out of a 2003 subie outback
the radio itself doesnt even have a amp built into it
it was mounted under the passanger seat!

winter narwhal
scenic thicket
winter narwhal
scenic thicket
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Do they fall off easily or r they secure if your like working out?

winter narwhal
winter narwhal
scenic thicket
winter narwhal
warm scarab
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its worse than the n700nc m2 and also more expensive

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so what gives

exotic schooner
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its pretty hard to make headphones sound bad

warm scarab
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what

exotic schooner
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huh

molten lotus
warm scarab
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huh to you

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yeah chinese oems are 1$ a piece

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go mad

lean grove
warm scarab
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infinite phones

unborn gale
winter narwhal
warm scarab
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it has same features

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and equivalent anc

exotic schooner
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its pretty hard to make headphones sound bad "if they are not cheap shitty ones" i should of clarified

unborn gale
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still wrong

warm scarab
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I can count headphones in thousands that sound like ass

unborn gale
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I speak from experience too

molten lotus
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If features and anc matter that much then you shouldn’t buy anything other than airpod maxs (if you use ios)

unborn gale
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as in designing them

scenic thicket
unborn gale
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HD700 failed

warm scarab
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8xx

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lcd-x

molten lotus
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Raycons linusSmirk

warm scarab
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that one sony mdr1 which costs 800$

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airpods max

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xm5 lmao

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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hifiman sundara

warm scarab
molten lotus
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Use one of your phone’s 17 mics for speech to text

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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it isn't though

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there are literal measurements of this on the internet

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what are you on about

molten lotus
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Marketing

unborn gale
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pretty sure Bose is leading in terms of ANC

warm scarab
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and this ^

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dudes be supplying us military their anc technology

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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spatial audio is a shitty gimmic that equalizes sound to make it worse and feel more 3 dimensional

winter narwhal
unborn gale
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yeah it sounds like shit

molten lotus
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Spacial audio is fine for 5.1+ movies but anything else no

warm scarab
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spatial audio is fine for 5.1

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when your spatial audio setup consists of 5 speakers and 1 subwoofer

warm scarab
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aka 5.1

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being an expert yourself which do you think is the n700nc m2 and is the xm5

molten lotus
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🩗

winter narwhal
# warm scarab

Rtings review show that the wh 1000xm5 have poor anc. Soundguys show the other way. It may be because of the auto ai anc feature or outdated firmware. Rtings say that the Wh 1000xm4 is better than the xm5 which is interesting

lean grove
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Just get etys

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Unparalleled noise cancelling

warm scarab
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soundguys don't have measurements of it

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I am not sure what you are comparing

warm scarab
molten lotus
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Just turn up the volume ez

lean grove
warm scarab
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it isn't

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its being isolated

lean grove
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If I isolated you on a desert island so far away that I couldn't hear you talk that would be as good as glueing your mouth shut.

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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that is the xm5

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there isn't any for n700nc m2

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which I argued to be better

cobalt sparrow
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would recommend, im still practically deaf but at least I can be deaf knowing im not harming my hearing anymore than it is by keeping volume low

hard junco
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Quick question. I have a Focusrite Scarlett Solo, and am wondering if the Lines out are powered for speakers? and if so do they run at the same time as the headphones? or can I swap between

cobalt sparrow
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so a probably yes

hard junco
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ok. I was just thinking about getting some speakers so I wouldnt always need to use my headphones

cobalt sparrow
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I dont know if it'll run concurrently tho

hard junco
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It might be fine, as if I get powered ones, I would be able to turn them off at any given point. so that would work

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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no they aren't

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its just an inverted graph

winter narwhal
# warm scarab its just an inverted graph

There is a 10db+ difference in the bass frequencies. Like if you look at the 100hz area soundguys show that it cancels around 30db while rtings show that it cancels ~20db.

warm scarab
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because they use different test tone?

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if you use a 50dB test tone over a 60dB one you will have different results lmao

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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what are you trying to say

winter narwhal
# warm scarab what are you trying to say

I guess there was a problem with the wh 1000xm5's testing method or the firmware may have been the problem. Anyways I'm trying to say it's performing very great now

warm scarab
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no there isn't

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how have you come to that conclusion

lean grove
winter narwhal
# warm scarab how have you come to that conclusion

Soundguys' measurement says that the ANC is great when it is fit well. They even showed a graph of the ANC when the fit is not that good in two scenarios, and the second one resembles Rtings' measurement a lot. And as a user who is using those headphones, they perform just great tbh

inland bobcat
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got this pos working

tough lava
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from a time when such things were fancy

inland bobcat
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it has XLR connections

tough lava
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oh damn

inland bobcat
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blurry

tough lava
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I'm running firewire interfaces 🙂

inland bobcat
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My entire setup is kinda ghetto

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Rats nest of cables

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I daily the soviet microphone cause discord audio sucks and can't really tell difference between 50yr old mic and the studio mic

tough lava
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my setup is far more complex than necessary!

inland bobcat
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Baller

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I'm just surrounded by ancient junk

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All my stuff is RCA cause it was simple

tough lava
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the mixer/interface was $100 aud 😄

inland bobcat
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I paid that for the 8 track lol

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Well usd

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Getting harder to find working units

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Even old CD players are getting expensive

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That sony was free but it was also living in a garage for 10 years

tough lava
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Just got one of those off eBay for $100 shipped!

warm scarab
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and averaged afterwards

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they aren't something you can say "they probably measured wrong lol" about

winter narwhal
# warm scarab those tests are taken tens of times in a labarotary

If the firmware or the fit was the problem, doing the tests multiple times in a lab would not help I guess. Actions like updating the firmware and re testing, changing the fit and retesting may help improve the accuracy though. Most reviews say that the xm5s have better noise canceling than the xm4s(though some says that the bass frequency noise canceling lacks than the xm4s, it is not that bad as the graph in rtings) so I wonder what's causing poor bass noise canceling for the rtings team.

warm scarab
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airpod max also measures worse in rtings compared to soundguys

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its almost like soundguys literally just inflates the scores of whatever item is more expensive then adds affiliate links to its post afterwards

winter narwhal
warm scarab
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plausible

spring venture
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Just watched the new HyperX cloud 3 video. Does anyone have other headphone recommendations or an upgrade within $200. Currently use the Cloud 2s but they are quite old and falling apart.

wispy surge
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anyone help i want to get the DT770 pro 80ohms after a year and a half of finding the right headphone i made my decision. i like the closed back and there in my price range. But when i went to get them on amazon in UK. my luck the price has went up from ÂŁ120 to ÂŁ169. i can find the for ÂŁ99 on amazon but thats used. anyone able to help me find

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also i am playing on running them though my laptop jack or my hyperxUSB driver or my Logitech USB driver (i have alo of USB drivers from old headsets)

warm scarab
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direct upgrade to dt770

wispy surge
warm scarab
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what is it you have researched

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I don't know man, pretty obvious whichever is better to me

molten lotus
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I am about to buy dt 770 80 ohm but i can't find an afforadble amp

warm scarab
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just buy akg k371

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that and dt770 doesn't need an amplifier

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at least any variant that isn't 600 ohms

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but its straight up an outdated headphone

molten lotus
warm scarab
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I mean every headphone will benefit from an amplifier but the investment isn't worth it for the dt770

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the 100$ you can use to buy an amplifier is better spent buying better headphones

warm scarab
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because its directly worse than akg k361 and k371

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it is a mass produced cheap durable studio headphone, it isn't trying to be a good headphone

molten lotus
warm scarab
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yes

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and k371 has more sub bass than k361

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which is generally nice

molten lotus
warm scarab
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same as what

molten lotus
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as an amp

warm scarab
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I second you

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every headphone will benefit from an amplifier

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but that money is better off spending on headphones

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unless you get into like the 500$ headphone zone, don't be concerned with an amplifier

molten lotus
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will an amplfiier make the sound cleaner?

unique wind
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no

molten lotus
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wht then

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im confuwed with amplfiiers

warm scarab
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but such amplifiers don't come cheap

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so

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spend your money on better headphones instead

molten lotus
warm scarab
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yes you should

molten lotus
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what is the diff with 361 and 371?

warm scarab
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I already answered that a few messages back

molten lotus
warm scarab
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you can use them for 2-3 years if you treat them well

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if that is a deal breaker you can get dt880

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which is an open back but pretty good

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/ alright

molten lotus
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wait so the k361 doesn't last long but the dt's do last?

warm scarab
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dt headphones are very long lasting

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akg k371 will at best last 4 years

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at very best

molten lotus
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by how far is k361 better than dt 770?

warm scarab
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decently better imo

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you can also get dt880

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which is subjectively to me, on par with k361

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it will last as long as a dt770

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and sound a lot better than it

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has treble issues like the dt770 though, which tires out your ears

molten lotus
warm scarab
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ath r70x and sundaras

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latter which I don't recommend to anyone

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simply outdated af

molten lotus
warm scarab
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the ones I mentioned?

molten lotus
warm scarab
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no

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r70x and sundara slaps the fuck out of all of them

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they are far more expensive than either though

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and the r70x benefits greatly from an amplifier, not something I'd recommend to anyone

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and at which point you save up 350$ for sundaras, you are better off going for xs anyways

molten lotus
warm scarab
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amplifiers are worth it when you are buying headphones that cost like 400$ and above

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not when you are buying 100$ headphones

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good amplifiers start at 100 usd themselves anyways

molten lotus
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k361 or dt 770?

warm scarab
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k361 easily

molten lotus
warm scarab
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dt series have terrible treble generally

warm scarab
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I am commenting sound wise anyways

molten lotus
warm scarab
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dt770 is slightly better id say

molten lotus
warm scarab
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it's not really a difference that matters

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they both work well regarding games

molten lotus
warm scarab
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because humans have different head shapes

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what is comfortable to you might not be to someone else

molten lotus
warm scarab
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sound wise absolutely

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but it will not last as long as dt770

molten lotus
warm scarab
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if you don't mind open backs dt880 is a good middleground

warm scarab
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terrible headphone

molten lotus
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what exactly is a headphone treble since i am not fluent in englihs

buoyant vale
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are we playing "ask if every headphone on the market is better than every other headphone on the market" again?

molten lotus
warm scarab
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it is the region of frequencies from around 10khz to 20khz

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well, even if it isn't, that is what treble is used to describe in headphones anyways

molten lotus
warm scarab
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no

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there is an appropriate amount to be had

molten lotus
warm scarab
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I don't understand what that means

molten lotus
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like in general the volume will nto be the same?

warm scarab
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they will not last 3-4 years

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the headband will snap

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well

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they might last if you treat them super well

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but 4 years is the hard limit id place

molten lotus
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nvm i found what you meant

molten lotus
warm scarab
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ive seen it last 30 years lol

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but like

buoyant vale
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there is probably stil some kicking around from the 80s

warm scarab
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literally get the dt880 instead

buoyant vale
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but they sound like ass

wispy surge
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@warm scarab

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I made this, data is from watching reviews and different website reviews

warm scarab
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Congratulations

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It is objectively false

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There are quite literal measurements of either headphones using the harman over ear target and how they compare to it

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Because some random reviewers shilled a 50 year mass produced headphone that wasn't even good at the time of it's release, does not make it a better choice over anything

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and you are going off of literal amazon ratings lmfao

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its almost like different items have different audiences with different standards

wispy surge
#

i have figgured out the over all is wrong, BUT the wrest of the numbers work

warm scarab
#

they don't

buoyant vale
#

there are glowing amazon reviews of k92

warm scarab
#

you are still objectively false because these are meaningless numbers

#

gtx970 has better amazon reviews than 4090

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so gtx970 > 4090?

buoyant vale
#

obviously

warm scarab
#

thought so

wispy surge
#

i just put the amazon reviews in their, to see. the other numbers though

warm scarab
#

all these kids with their ryzen 7800x3d

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good ol intel core duo đŸ’Ș

warm scarab
#

A brief video on what frequency response will explain to you most you need to know

wispy surge
#

fine for a about 14 hour daily use, over ear, closed back, really good sound quality, under ÂŁ135? what are your top 3

warm scarab
#

While frequency response isn't the entire story when it comes to hat makes a headphone, it is a good starting point

buoyant vale
#

closed back
good

warm scarab
#

this ^

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there is emu teaks and shit

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or high end focals

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but that is like 500$ and 1000$ region at least

wispy surge
#

i think your talking rubbish

warm scarab
#

even then they get btfod by any open back

wispy surge
#

what about semi-open?

warm scarab
#

better off

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dt880 is a good option if you are absolutely set on buying beyers

buoyant vale
#

there is either open or closed
semi open is justt open

warm scarab
#

dt880 250ohm

warm scarab
#

but semi has better isolation and less bleed tbh

wispy surge
#

also you suggested AKG K371 which is closed back for under ÂŁ135

warm scarab
#

yes

wispy surge
#

you said you couldn't get good over-ear closed back under ÂŁ135

warm scarab
#

yeah it isn't good

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its alright

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dt770 is just bad

wispy surge
#

what do you use

warm scarab
#

r70x and sundara

unique wind
#

are there any closed backs that are genuinely good

molten lotus
warm scarab
#

no

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its just a rollercoaster of measurements

wispy surge
unique wind
#

crinacle reds just solo every closed back headphone for $55

warm scarab
#

iems don't have over ear dynamics

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but yeah they are better overall to me too

unique wind
warm scarab
#

true

wispy surge
#

i need something over-ear, closed back and really nice audio quality, my hyperxcloud 2 are falling apart

warm scarab
#

open bar iems

unique wind
#

truly open back iem when

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that would be cool

wispy surge
molten lotus
wispy surge
#

thing is you say DT770 are bad BUT your using r70x and Sundara, so obviously their not going to go to that standard but idk that standart i use a hyper X cloud 2

molten lotus
unique wind
#

weird lookin

warm scarab
#

but dt770 is bad not because I am using good headphones

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they are bad because they fucking suck compared to k371

#

they fall behind in their own price category

unique wind
#

the problem with dt770 is the hole in the frequency response at 200hz

warm scarab
#

and the bass bump at high bass

unique wind
#

it makes everything sound like it's playing on speakers far away in an echoey room

warm scarab
#

and the treble peak

unique wind
#

it kinda looks like a shit attempt at harman

wispy surge
#

if you where going to review the hyperx cloud 2 what would you say @warm scarab

unique wind
#

oh no it does have the hump and a hole lmao

warm scarab
#

yeah lol

warm scarab
unique wind
#

i do think dt770 is massively overhated, its not as horrible as everyone acts

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but i wouldnt buy it when akg k371 exists

warm scarab
#

its pretty bad man

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i put it on at a demo room

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listened for 20 seconds

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took it off lmao

wispy surge
unique wind
#

crinacle didnt measure a hump on the 80 like i thought

warm scarab
#

cloud 2 might be better tbh

#

in all honesty

molten lotus
#

FUCK that 4k dip

warm scarab
#

I remember having a good time with the cloud 2 contrary to dt770

unique wind
#

cloud2 has a 4k dip too

warm scarab
#

yeah

wispy surge
#

fine compare teh cloud 2 to the AKG K371

warm scarab
#

it doesn't sound like a tin can though

warm scarab
#

k371 slaps

wispy surge
#

ye but you copared the Cloud 2 and DT770, so compar teh Cloud 2 and AKG K371 like which is better

warm scarab
#

I don't follow

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I already said k371 multiple times

#

as other people in the chat also have

molten lotus
#

Duck it, just buy some airpods max /s

unique wind
#

k371 probably sounds pretty satisfying

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especially if you like bass

molten lotus
#

If I can’t listen to the Belle soundtrack and get goosebumps idc

unique wind
#

mine come tomorrow im hype

molten lotus
#

Yes
Very very good for the price

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I’m struggling to pick an eartip that fits my left ear properly though ngl

unique wind
#

wonky ear moment

wispy surge
#
molten lotus
#

My left ear is a pain in the dick to get to seal properly for some reason

molten lotus
#

I saw a review once on there that docked points because “not wireless”
Last time I looked there

warm scarab
#

guys did you know

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when you disregard harman treble target

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instead use the diffuse treble target

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and the harman fucking speaker target bass for measuring headphones

#

your score becomes unreliable

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:O

#

almost like

wispy surge
#

so DT770 have better Frequency Response Consistency and Bass Accuracy and Mid Accuracy and Passive Soundstage

#

BUT

warm scarab
#

They don't

#

you aren't reading the measurements

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you are reading scores

#

the scores are established by using measurement targets literally not meant for headphones

molten lotus
#

Also seriously don’t use rtings

warm scarab
#

No do use it

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but if you are going to use it

wispy surge
#

AKG K371 has better Treble Accuracy and Imaging

warm scarab
#

actually look at graphs and not some random ass score

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Raymond you are reading meaningless information

molten lotus
#

Garbage in garbage out

wispy surge
#

well your not helpfull becuse when i ask about a head phone you go "NO thats trash" and "you dont get a good headphone for that price" but dont give a alternative. you said AKG K371 but then you say "you cant get a good sound quailty and closed ear headset for under ÂŁ500"

warm scarab
#

I am helpful to those who try to understand statements rather than attempting to refute them by reading random rtings scores

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I said you can't get closed good backs compared to open backs

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You asked me "then k371 are bad but you said good"

wispy surge
#

i wasent comparing them to open

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i never said i want open

warm scarab
#

which I replied to they are just better than dt770

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they aren't good either

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they are alright

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and that dt770 are just straight up bad

warm scarab
#

I said I compared them to

wispy surge
#

okay so your suggestion you gave "isn't good" but is better than what i suggested

warm scarab
#

Yes

#

Exactly

#

It is the best your money can get you within the parameters you submitted to us to our knowledge

wispy surge
#

so can you give me a suggestion that is "good" and not "isn't good"

warm scarab
#

Okay

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E-mu teak

wispy surge
#

can you give me a suggestion that is "good" and not "isn't good" but is in a ÂŁ150 price range.

warm scarab
#

I can't

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k361 and k371 is the best closed backs I know of in the parameters you gave me

#

maybe get in ears like michael

wispy surge
#

no i want over ear i dont like in ears. what do you consider "good"

warm scarab
#

Something that doesn't lack

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or lacks less than others

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akg k371 has a lacking stage and layering

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raymond we aren't getting anywhere

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k371 is the best you can buy as far as closed backs go to my knowledge

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even if you question me for 30 minutes my knowledge isn't going to grow

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like take it leave it man

wispy surge
#

i think i am gona go for the DT770 Pro

warm scarab
#

okay great

buoyant vale
#

Bro really wants to be lofi

molten lotus
#

Are there any cheap mid/hifi closed backs

unique wind
#

akg k371

molten lotus
#

Good to know
All the closed backs I have are feature driven headphones
Still, I like my plantronics

buoyant robin
#

Is this the place to ask about headsets?

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Or is this for fancy high end audio stuff

wheat moss
buoyant robin
#

I guess I could have clicked on the channel name lol sorry I’m on mobile and it’s one extra click and I was lazy.

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Was curious if any one here has a large head and if they have found. Headphones that fit there large head. I’m currently using articus pro wireless but I’m getting a headache as the bad is a little tight, I have what may be described as an extra large head

steel escarp
tepid torrent
candid cosmos
#

They are a Solid choice for the money tbh

tepid torrent
#

What

#

Bro has been watching too much dankpods

candid cosmos
#

Im not watching any Audio YouTube channel

tepid torrent
#

Dont say things

candid cosmos
#

Lmao

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Are they that expensive outside germany?

buoyant vale
#

no but they suck no matter where you are

steel escarp
#

DT770 is dogshit

#

the only solid thing is the build. but what is a well build piece when the sound is bad

molten lotus
steel escarp
#

I owned them unfortunately

#

they sound completely dead

molten lotus
candid cosmos
#

I only have the dt990 tbh, but listened to the 770.

Id say the negative Part is the build quality tbh -

steel escarp
#

I dont own it. I dont have closed backs anymore

unborn gale
#

what's the difference between 361 and 371?

candid cosmos
#

I dont like closed backs either.

steel escarp
#

the brightness iirc

unborn gale
#

huh

warm scarab
#

same otherwise

unborn gale
#

ah

#

sounds like the 371 is better then

warm scarab
#

it's a healthy amount of bass too

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not some random 200hz hump

steel escarp
#

k361 seem more shouty

warm scarab
#

grey they are identical save for bass

steel escarp
#

guess the rigs are rigged

warm scarab
#

why do they vary so much lmao

lean grove
#

Nature of relying on a seal and different rigs

silent badger
#

What some apps or even settings. I could use for removing keyboard and mouse audio its fine for streaming/discord or what not but shadowplay for clips I often hear mouse and keyboard and I am wondering how I can remove that. I am using a hyperx quadcast S

unique wind
#

pipe your microphone through OBS using virtual cable input/output and youll be able to use OBS noise suppression and other plugins in real time

lean grove
candid cosmos
#

It has, a relatively powerful one even

unique wind
#

@lean grove @warm scarab do u guys know where conpin went

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i cant even find his acc

lean grove
#

i send him a fr

unique wind
molten lotus
#

Wonder why

lean grove
#

Rip

silent badger
#

I ended up fixing it I just used nvidia broadcast and set mic to that

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I didn’t realize I hadn’t set it in shadowplay it was default mic so it wasnt using the noise suppression on that

haughty girder
unique wind
#

neither should seem shouty thats weird

buoyant robin
#

What is shouty?

#

Like what does that mean, not the headphones your reference in

versed pond
#

Could someone help me pick some headphones? I need closed back, and my budget is $200 - $300. They'll mostly be for listening to music.

lean grove
versed pond
#

Thanks

weak rapids
lean grove
#

Like I can't think of anything besides of the akg k361/371 or the maxwells that I would recommend to anyone for closed backs

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At any price.

unborn gale
#

was it the Fostex or something that make closed backs?

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but they're vented and honestly don't really feel closed back

lean grove
#

Fostex has some yeah

#

But I wouldn't recommend them to someone new

weak rapids
#

dt700 pro x KEKW

static acorn
#

but obv 3k ish dip
 😭

molten lotus
#

looking for some budget speakers around like 60 dollars USD

warm scarab
#

creating a potentially more screechy sound

haughty girder
#

It fills in the missing gaps and frequencies

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as I found out recently when someone wanted me to boost them on their PC and they had skullcandy crushers

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downright painful (sibilance) while playing valorant

#

but they thought it was good

lean grove
#

Which is fine.

haughty girder
#

they don't know better is one thing, but they don't literally wince at the treble

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meanwhile despite preferring a generally brighter signature, it was downright unbearable

inland bobcat
#

Radio stuff

tough lava
inland bobcat
#

image captured with that SDR getting audio from NOAA 18 weather satellite

unique wind
dry stratus
#

No, u aren’t my gf

#

I have none anyway

#

Peak this year ended up being in june with about 28-34 for a few weeks with a long rain time after at 19-26 (26 was still bad with rain honestly, but needed because the grass started getting too dry and burnt ), last week was 27-31

#

A lot of rain this year honestly

#

Pretty nice, lol
Thank god no 2019-2021 again
(which had a lot of heatwaves, can find it when u look up 2019-2021 european heatwave)

dry stratus
#

Anyone wants to join me with my daily shot of olive oil?, need some calories

#

Anyway, I haven’t kept up with audio in a while, lol

inland bobcat
tough lava
#

in the same way that a tape for a c64 isn't audio

unborn gale
#

So I've been thinking

#

People talking about breaking into headphones and stuff by playing it

#

what if it's actually the headphones breaking into the person rather than the person breaking into the headphones?

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As in the person getting used to the headphones and thinking they're actually good after the "break in" period

molten lotus
tough lava
#

It seems reasonable that after a moderate amount of use they would potentially be worn in, but imho it seems mostly like just... Bullshit

wheat moss
#

I really regret buying this cheap ass behringer umc22

tough lava
#

they are not cheap enough for how shit they are ... they exist in a liminal space where they are too expensive vs a "usb sound card" and too shit vs an actual interface - including behringers actual interfaces lie the UMC202HD, which is fine.

wheat moss
#

I needed an interface for my mic and couldn't quite justify something like a focusrite, and had to buy locally so I wouldn't have to wait to use the mic

#

nice Sennheiser E 845, my own cable made with Neutrik XX connectors and Mogami cable, and then this piece of crap sennheiser

#

kinda want to make my own interface, but it'd be a lot of work

warm scarab
warm scarab
#

what is your issue with umc22

#

scarletts are infamously bad

#

don't take my word for it if you want

#

you'd just be shooting yourself on the foot anyways

wheat moss
#

the preamp is just pure shit, and the headphone output is also rubbish. it only goes to 16 bit, 48kHz, the overall build quality is shit. the usb-b on the back is outdated af

warm scarab
#

headphone out being 16 bit 48khz is shit?

#

and here I thought you had an actual problem lmfao

wheat moss
#

wtf even is a chungsheng xlr connector and why is it missing the damn lock

warm scarab
#

and the preamps are midas

wheat moss
warm scarab
#

its pretty damn alright

#

static is related to your computer's power and how you isolate the cord, no amount of spending money will fix that as long as its usb powered

#

the pop I can't say anything about, never encountered it

warm scarab
wheat moss
#

sure bud. because a 2i2 hat I borrowed worked perfectly

warm scarab
#

probably literally moved the cord away while installing it lmao

wheat moss
#

there ain't a single power chord anywhere near any of the cables

warm scarab
#

2i2 has red aluminum on it

#

it must surely be good

dry stratus
#

Klaus

warm scarab
#

con pin

wheat moss
#

like I just said, there ain't a single power chord near any of it. the usb runs completely alone into the computer

#

the mic cable runs directly to the mic

#

and the headphone cable is also far away from anything else

#

and as I just said, I borrowed a 2i2 and it worked perfectly. direct swap in with the same cables, nothing moved

#

and that thing does 24 bit 192kHz

warm scarab
#

if it is as you said the only plausible explanation it you got a faulty unit

warm scarab
#

tell me how many days it takes you to hear a difference

wheat moss
#

have you actually owned a umc22 or are you just talking out your ass based on experience with other behringer models?
this isn't the only umc22 I know that does this. everyone I know that has ever had one has had the same experience

warm scarab
#

I own one yes

#

never encountered an issue of static

#

while it being surrounded by electronics

#

amplifiers, dac, 20 cords behind it

buoyant vale
warm scarab
#

I also had a focusrite and several of my friends do

#

to this day they fix their shitty ass drivers which break every two months

wheat moss
#

just curious, how long ago did you buy that umc22?

warm scarab
#

been like 3 years maybe

wheat moss
#

hm

warm scarab
#

did you use the supplied cord with the umc22

#

because it has a filter on it

#

which you want

wheat moss
#

yeah, I don't have usb fucking b chords laying around KEKW

warm scarab
#

fair lol

wheat moss
#

worst full sized usb connector

warm scarab
#

its still used because its durable af

#

little chance of actually breaking it anyhow

molten lotus
#

I’d take a usb b cord over a micro usb

#

Are the HD600s on the more “intimate” side of soundstage?

lean grove
molten lotus
#

Gotcha

#

In any case, back to the work, no more over ears for me for some months 😔

weak rapids
#

love my hd560s

molten lotus
#

Holy crap Qobuz’ download is slow

#

thoughts on HD600s or am I smoking nut

warm scarab
#

I find them personally congested

#

and not a fan in general

#

but lots of people think otherwise too, you should try for yourself

molten lotus
#

I mean I own them and I've just never really vibed with them, but at least they're clear to me
I had some HD560s and absolutely hated them

warm scarab
#

tried any planars?

molten lotus
#

Only the Sundaras, wasn’t huge fan

#

Though I don’t remember if they were the open or closed back versions

warm scarab
#

needs massive eq cope to be decent

#

try edition xs if you can

#

pretty good headphone

#

if you find it comfortable

unique wind
molten lotus
#

There’s not really anywhere to “try” these things in texas tbf

unique wind
#

“needs massive eq cope”

#

oh yeah my stuff comes today lemme go check

warm scarab
#

too sibilant by default because of the distortion and decay in the treble

unique wind
#

not too much longer

molten lotus
#

Hopefully you have better luck with the fit than I am

warm scarab
#

no such thing as an unfitting iem

#

such thing as insufficient eartips

molten lotus
#

And yet, none of them included are sufficient

warm scarab
#

normal

fresh cargo
# warm scarab normal

None that came with my IEMs are a good fit. About to start looking for replacements. Any go to makes of tips worth starting with?

warm scarab
#

foam tips, triple flange tips

#

spinfits

#

triple flange will take adjusting though, but it is probably the most secure eartip you can find

#

you can also just go to ebay and buy some weird kit with like 20 different eartips in it for 10$

fresh cargo
#

Cheers will have a look.

molten lotus
#

Any good headphones for the gym or like cycling and activities like this? ( With good noise cancelling and good sound ) Also sweatproof.

#

Galaxy buds or airpods pros đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

#

Ty!

flat glade
#

I finally got a pair of headphones Arctic nova 7 wireless I’m excited

#

Was like $40 off

steel escarp
#

full + thick + smooth sound gets boring after a while

#

maybe I gave everything too much body with EQ

#

honestly bass is the only thing I cant figure out how to EQ

molten lotus
#

Just spit on it

unique wind
#

the collection grows

#

i dont have my kbear ks2 box anymore but i had those too

#

@steel escarp @molten lotus @warm scarab @lean grove

#

i shall own every iem

steel escarp
#

you are literally wasting money on more lowfi

molten lotus
#

I tossed my waifu box in 3.9 seconds

warm scarab
#

why not just

steel escarp
#

what good is a lowfi collection

warm scarab
#

buy one good one

#

lmao

#

zeos wall

steel escarp
#

copium wall

unique wind
#

khan and red

unique wind
molten lotus
#

I buy for the sound, not the indeterminate age drawing

unique wind
#

the inside of the box smells like sharpie marker and there's no stickers

#

as for sound they have less bass but it's a good amount, and there's a bit less air than khan

#

using the tips amir used for measurements

#

pretty bang on fit for my ear

molten lotus
#

I’m using the ones on the right personally

unique wind
#

which row on the right column

molten lotus
#

Small for right ear, medium for left

steel escarp
#

I have 4 cables and they all sound different

molten lotus
#

L

steel escarp
#

bro its actually fucked

molten lotus
#

Bad cables?

steel escarp
#

no

#

I resistance checked them all

#

they are fine

unique wind
#

zeos cable wall

#

lowfi cables

steel escarp
#

I dont know which one I like more

#

my thicker cable seems to somehow make my brain unable to process the sound

#

like all these things are happening in the song but everything feels cloudy

lean grove
#

Have you tried using better headphones

steel escarp
#

I will demo organic next week

#

and buy if they are good

molten lotus
#

They won’t be

steel escarp
#

what everyone says about them does not match up with the graphs that I saw in this channel

#

I will evaluate them for myself and form my own opinion as one should

lean grove
#

That I've seen at least

molten lotus
#

I’m glad
Fuck graphs this is too hard to read

lean grove
#

It's just a matter of experience

steel escarp
#

I am questioning the legitemacy of the graphs

lean grove
#

Gotta know how it translates into reality

steel escarp
#

I want a reputable reviewer to measure it

lean grove
#

How much more reputable can you get than a 5128

steel escarp
#

according to the graphs the organic is brighter than the he1000se

#

which does not match up with what anyone who reviewed it said

#

like how can every reviewer unanimously agree on that its the least bright arya revision yet

tepid torrent
#

Or maybe they measured it wrong

steel escarp
#

man this cable makes the already diffused sounding edition xs even more diffused sounding

#

nothing is well pronounced anymore and I cannot follow what is going on anymore

unique wind
#

people probably just like the jacked up treble

#

once it's out of the sibilance range it's easy to mistake as detail or air or spatial effects

steel escarp
#

nah I heard nyvo say that its actually darker than the edition xs

unique wind
#

well i mean it's not a mistake, that is what that region does

steel escarp
molten lotus
#

Personally I like loads of treble so bias is strong here

warm scarab
unique wind
warm scarab
#

stop talking to yourself

#

wtf schizo

west crypt
#

what settings should i use on my podmic usb?

#

trying to get something podcast

lean grove
#

just be careful with popping the mic with plosives

west crypt
#

could u help me with the settings on rode ?

lean grove
#

as much as id love to spend the next half hour helping you fiddle with settings, baldurs gate is more fun

unborn gale
lean grove
#

no

west crypt
#

anyone willing to help me?

molten lotus
warm scarab
#

whatever is the cheapest custom mold in ear you can get