audio-tech

[lean grove]

Usually. Some subwoofers have their own crossovers, but they're usually not great.

[unreal sequoia]

ai.. yo I have a question..
I have an Amp and want to connect to PC
I wonder.. If I use a cable to connect from Amp's output to PC's Mic input.. will that work?
will something blow?

[steel escarp]

The guy is gonna spend 1k on speakers and not do room treatment

[lean grove]

Almost certainly

[rain root]

can you do room treatment without ruining the looks of the room?

[unreal sequoia]

bummer

[steel escarp]

Yes

[rain root]

will look into that too

[steel escarp]

You need stylish accoustic panels

At the first reflection point mostly

Determine the first reflection point for all the spots on the couch

[timber storm]

you can get a pair of kh80 and a sub for way cheaper, if you care about the sound quality

[lean grove]

Dude wants floor standers.

[rain root]

only reason for floor standers is it fills out the empty space

[steel escarp]

It'd help if you were to lay down some carpet on the ground at the first reflection point

[timber storm]

well yeah idk anyone that sells cheap, while decent floor standers

you can get stands for kh80 tho for cheap

[steel escarp]

Can't you get a more solid stand?

[timber storm]

myu recommendation

[rain root]

whole room has marble flooring cos idk

[steel escarp]

💀💀

Get a carpet

It's a must

[timber storm]

damn

[rain root]

pretty much how the room looks now

the side I am standing is where the kitchen is gonna be, it's an open plan

[timber storm]

2x kh80 + stands + monoprice sw15 will run you about 1k

you can get some deflectors for prob under 200

[steel escarp]

Speaker stands ain't that ugly

[rain root]

will bookshelf speakers fill out the whole room?

[steel escarp]

With sound?

Yes

[timber storm]

yes they are like 105db @ 1m

[lean grove]

The only thing floor standers have over bookshelves is better bass extension but with a subwoofer that's not an issue.

[steel escarp]

Hmm and cables are at the bottom

Double check if the stands let you tuck the cable somewhere out of sight

[timber storm]

90 @ 1m

still really loud

[steel escarp]

Neumann also work but are quite a bit more expensive than the kali lp6 v2

[timber storm]

a bit worse in every way, if you need the budget

but really good for price

[steel escarp]

Front ported

Man I just got the creative pebbles atm

If only I had a room worth putting these monitors in to

[timber storm]

ah

i have promedia 2.1 at my desk

with eq they are flat asf

• sub knob

kinda op

can plug direct into pc with 3.5

[steel escarp]

A 400 euro set

[molten lotus]

RAH!!!!

[steel escarp]

Tf are these grills lmao

[timber storm]

what

[molten lotus]

Ngl I kinda like it

[timber storm]

thats not what i was talking about lol

http://images.klipsch.com/ProMedia2.1CutSheet_635042124556680000.pdf

oh yeah you can plug headphone into it too

idk if its 106 @ 1m im assuming it is

[steel escarp]

These are the heritage version of the promedia

I miss any sort of bass below 100Hz from my creative pebble v3

Should have gotten the v2 with sub

[timber storm]

promedia is 100 dollar flat

in america at least

[lean grove]

The non heritage version, right?

[timber storm]

yeah the new

those old ones look sick tho

[lean grove]

There's a new non heritage promedia?

[timber storm]

http://images.klipsch.com/ProMedia2.1CutSheet_635042124556680000.pdf

[lean grove]

Looks the same as the old one.

[unique wind]

theres a dozen versions of the old promedia

theyre all basically the same thing

[tepid torrent]

General is going crazy

Find peace and tranquility in audio chat

[molten lotus]

Another waifu

[lean grove]

What's happening

I have every channel except audio muted

[molten lotus]

They’re going feral over the LTT/GN stuff

Hyperbole is at 100%, zero nuance to a complicated situation

[unborn gale]

ayyye same

[molten lotus]

Ok I like these

[unique wind]

nice u got em

have u listened to them with the 10ohm resistor

[molten lotus]

Yea it’s more “fun” but I prefer them without it tbh

[unique wind]

valid

[molten lotus]

For my more detailed music I’ll skip, but it’s fun on the hyperpop bullshit

[unique wind]

they should be great for all genres

[molten lotus]

I’m talking about the 10 ohm resistor

[unique wind]

oh okay i get you

[warm scarab]

compare them to your other in ears

[molten lotus]

I mean the others are arias and IE600s

[weak rapids]

If only that cheap Fifine mixer had VST support or somehow at $50 DSP

[haughty girder]

it's actually not bad

[weak rapids]

Yeah it is but it they were able to get VST support into a cheap integrated software that would seal the deal

I love my DSP and am not gonna give it up, and while VSTs arent as good, I also don’t expect to have a full DSP in a $50 interface lol

[molten lotus]

Listening to the Dune Sketchbook album on Qobuz for the first time
Yeah I’ve been missing out using spotify.

Gonna give the bulgarian voices angelite a try next

[warm scarab]

I know

I want one regardless

[blazing magnet]

What’s the best USB microphone to buy for my PC for gaming and discord

[haughty girder]

what's your budget

[lean grove]

elgato wave 3

and thats because of the software package it comes with

[haughty girder]

Wave 1 > Wave 3

[lean grove]

show me where you can buy a wave 1

[haughty girder]

unless you really want those controls

[lean grove]

wave 1 went out of production

[haughty girder]

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Wave-Microphone-Anti-Clipping-TactileMute/dp/B08PHRY1ZK/

1 left

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-monkey-hmph-unhappy-disapproving-monkey-gif-11360757

okay fair enough

[haughty girder]

😄

[weak rapids]

$100+ wave 3

Under $100 Fifine mics would be the way to go

Or a samson q2u

[blazing magnet]

Pop Filter or nah

[lean grove]

if you want best sound and you're gonna have the mic in front of your face, you wanna use a pop filter. otherwise keep it off to the side of your mouth and you wont need one

[blazing magnet]

YETI X any good or nah

[weak rapids]

Nah

Steer clear of blue mics

[blazing magnet]

Why

[weak rapids]

Overpriced

Their xlrs are good

But their usbs have awful quality for a high price

[serene surge]

Hey audiophiles, As a complete noob in headphones, I have two questions:

1. What do we consider as a good headphone? what are we looking for when listening through those cans? the accuracy of the notes? the separation between different instruments?

2. Say we give a score 100/100 for those $50,000 headphones(those that make you cry), and give amazon basic earphones(or other random $10 stuff) a score of 1/100, at what price point can we reach a score of 90? 80? what score would my current headphone sennheiser hd560s be?

[lean grove]

1. theres a lot of answers to that question. its kind of like asking what makes a good computer or a good car. it depends what you're trying to accomplish. a ferrari would be absolutely terrible for camping for example. and a pair of $3000 headphones which weigh 2 pounds (which may sound great) will be so heavy that they'll suck to listen for long periods of time.

2. it doesn't quite work like that because as you become a more experienced listener, the scale changed. to a new person, something like the 560s would be the best musical experience they've ever heard in their life and consider them a 10/10. to someone who's got thousands and thousands in extremely good headphones, the 560s might be a 4/10.

[serene surge]

Well that basically didn't answer my questions, especially on the second question I've given a range, I believe there can be a somewhat objective answer, not all subjective.

[lean grove]

and thats because your question doesn't have a clear answer. you can't benchmark every headphone on a simple graph and determine whats best. you can give certain aspects to judge it by and then consider that. but at the end of the day you're still judging a fish by its ability to climb a tree.

for example there's different target curves for what a headphone should sound like. one of them is called harman target, and thats where they sat a bunch of people down with a bunch of EQ's and determined what sounded least worst/most best to the average person. alternatively, there's also diffuse field which took a bunch of measurements and determined that this type of sound signature mimics what something would sound like if it came from all directions at you. these are two very different curves that sound very different, so if you judged a harman headphone by diffuse field standards, it would fail poorly.

and for the second question, again. if you give something very good like the hifiman susvara, or some type of stax. something which costs a lot of money and is good in some very specific types of ways to justify the cost. someone inexperienced might like them less than something which just has a shit ton of bass.

tl;dr: what makes a headphone good is very complicated

[unborn gale]

Personally, it's comfort + sound quality. idc about looks

and yes, in that order. Comfort > sound quality. Just like Nils said before, it'll suck wearing a 2lb headphone for an extended amount of time

[lean grove]

senny sound good by clamp too much for long time.

need me a capra strap

[blazing magnet]

Well, in that case, what is the very best USB MIC in your opinion. And what do you use

[serene surge]

Maybe I should word it better for question #2: Assume everything else equal, how much $ for 1 score of sound quality? is there a $50=20, $100=50, $200=70, $400=90, $1000=95, $50000=100 kind of answer? I made it up, idk how the dollar to sound quality graph looks like. or if there is such a graph

[lean grove]

the sound quality score does not exist.

so you can not score a headphone on a scale of 1-100

and ayone that claims they can is lying to you or incredibly misinformed

there are good headphones for certain reasons and at specific price points

there are some people that think that the best headphones ever made are $300 and spend all their cash on thousands of dollars in tube amps for those headphones, and others who think that the $30k or $60k headphones are worth the cost because theres nothing better

there's also others who say that nothing modern is good and you're only gonna find good headphones from out of production vintage japanese headphones which require esoteric hardware to run

or, you'll have people that think that $50 earbuds which follow a target curve extremely well are the 100/100 and everything else is a waste of money

[serene surge]

Alright, thanks for the explaination. I think I'm good with this 560s and not going down the rabbit hole. Things are crazy the way you described it, haha

[lean grove]

yeah. it just comes down to what you want to improve and what you want to spend

if you want more soundstage, $1000 there are clear options that will do that. if you want deeper and cleaner bass for $3000, theres that. if you want something extremely high resolution for $6k, thats also an option

but, "whats the best regardless of price" has no answer

[serene surge]

what does high resolution mean? I understand there are 128k, 320k, flac/lossless, but if I play a song I can never tell if its 128k or 320k, IDK what to look for

[lean grove]

its how well you can pick out details while listening to music.

resolution is probably closer to using a microscope rather than file size.

theres some songs which have mistakes hidden in the background of recordings

or others which use very subtle background noise which has a lot of depth and detail

or more likely the really tiny details of certain types of instruments. like hearing the hammers in a piano hit the strings, or fingernails plucking a guitar.

[serene surge]

I see, appreciated!

[weak rapids]

Well it depends

For noise isolation q2u or mv7
For shock absorption the Sennheiser profile
For sound quality the nt1 usb
For real time processing the elgato wave 3

I use the sm7b

For your uses the wave 3 would probably work best

But again if you want sub $100, the fifine mics are amazing and specifically the razer siren mini is also good

[inland bobcat]

got this for free

[static acorn]

https://abx.digitalfeed.net dial down your vol by about half for this, best done on desktop

Try other tests first, namely the lame 96k one and see what you get

I passed a few but it is insane difficulty once you do the lossless test

• didn’t pass that one

[lean grove]

🤨

[leaden scaffold]

So now ltt's respone to gamer nexus is the new Tidal ™️ response(to golden sound)?

🤨

[sacred solstice]

when you attempt to obfuscates the facts, instead of address them, in your response it's kinda sad and pathetic and very corporate like.

[robust junco]

Anyone free for some quick audio hardware advice?

I have this audio receiver:
Cambridge Audio - Azur 751R (https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/sites/default/files/product-guides/751r_v2_top_tips_english_single_pages.pdf)

Thinking of pairing with:
2x Wharfedale Diamond 12.2 (https://www.wharfedale.com.au/products/diamond-12-2-bookshelf-speakers?variant=37496077811890)
2x Bookshelf speaker stands (https://www.geckoproducts.com.au/product/bookshelf-stand-height-850mm-solid-timber-fit-active-or-passive-speakers-model-gks-148/)

Qs:

1. Is that a suitable receiver + speaker pairing? Anything gotchas I need to be concerned about?
2. Is there a go-to speaker stand for wharfedales? I can't see any mention of mounting hardware in the manuals, worried these could be a bit hazardly if knocked?

[haughty girder]

Blue ember is pretty excellent for the price

[timber storm]

get 2x kh80 instead

wayyy better

@robust junco

[steep sierra]

I got the KEF LS50 Metas in new condition for less. How do those compare?

[timber storm]

pretty close

little worse on low and high end

other than that its about the same

[steep sierra]

Ah good to know, never heard of those ones before.

[timber storm]

directivity a little worse

needs a sub

both kinda do but kh extends to 55 instead of 70

[steep sierra]

Yeah, at higher volumes I can really feel the bass. But at lower volumes I have to use some loudness correction on my Yamaha A-S301 to get those bass sounds.

For now I can live without it, but eventually I’ll upgrade to a subwoofer.

They still sound amazing though, even without that super low bass.

[timber storm]

yes

absolutely

monoprice sw15 is on sale for like 100 dollars rn @steep sierra

best deal on a sub literally ever

[lean grove]

wheres it on sale?

[timber storm]

or it was

very recent

[lean grove]

[timber storm]

ah sale is over

damn

230 new

[lean grove]

I'm seeing closer to $300

[timber storm]

its 229 new on monoprice website

and walmart

[lean grove]

Out of stock :(

[high drift]

guys what's the best headphones i could get for 70$?
now i got this thing becuase of my brother https://www.speedlink.com/VOLTOR-LED-Stereo-Gaming-Headset-schwarz/SL-860021-BK

[tepid torrent]

Probably something like a ksc75, or koss portapro

After that you need to save up a substantial amount of money to see real improvements imo

[high drift]

what about this ?https://www.razer.com/gaming-headsets/razer-blackshark-v2/RZ04-03230100-R3M1

[tepid torrent]

Yea no

What did I say

[steep sierra]

Oof gonna add that to my wishlist 😅

[high drift]

why not

[high drift]

they look a bit not for what i normally do

i have an microphone i only need headphones, and just some stereo ones

[timber storm]

shp9500

if you use for talking

you need open back

[warm scarab]

cloud 2

[high drift]

this is more like what i imagined

[high drift]

they look like an stuido headphones idk how to say it

[warm scarab]

shp9500's only saving grace is that it's open back

and the fact that zeos shilled it once into being relevant

[buoyant vale]

graphs better than the razers, pretty low bar I know

[unique wind]

i dont know of any over ear headphone that is better at the $55-75 price point

[warm scarab]

id rather take the cloud 2

at least you can fix that one with eq

unlike shp9500

[unique wind]

?

this is a very minor tuning flaw for a $55 open back over ear headphone

idk why im defending philips idgaf about companies

[buoyant vale]

rolls off starts at 100hz

[warm scarab]

15 decibel roll off lmfao

[buoyant vale]

just get ksc75

[warm scarab]

literally get the ksc75

[unique wind]

-1db to -2db at 60hz depending on fit, might as well throw it away and buy a clip on mcdonalds on-ear headset

[lean grove]

Yeah shp9500 is a super thin sounding headphones. Ksc75 or porta pro are better sounding

[blazing magnet]

So I’m buying a second hand HyperX Quadcast S Microphone ( black ) (comes with separate boom arm) from Facebook marketplace for 77.43 ( US ) is that a good deal or nah . Comes with box and all included accessories

[warm scarab]

very bad deal

[blazing magnet]

Why

[warm scarab]

you can get better sounding microphones for cheaper first hand

[blazing magnet]

Like

[warm scarab]

fifine t669, mpm1000u

40$

[blazing magnet]

I thought the hyper x mic was good just very over priced

[warm scarab]

it isn't good at all

its better than the blue yeti but that mic uses 8$ worth of components so not a high bar

[blazing magnet]

Fair enough

[static acorn]

Tell me you’re not suggesting there wasn’t lossless audio to start with 😭 and just the test creators opinion

Could just be me torrenting but I find online test files in WAV are shit compared to them physically on my desktop in either WAV or FLAC, sounds like some 128k MP3 tracks

[warm scarab]

the test you posted is quite literally not functional

lossless playback programs have defaults that allow bypassing the operating system default resample rates

your browser doesn't

[static acorn]

What about the other tests

Between MP3 files

[warm scarab]

there are working desktop abx programs

[static acorn]

List some?

[warm scarab]

lacinato abx

[warm scarab]

not sure why you'd want to do abx tests between mp3 though?

[static acorn]

Compare 320kbps with 96kbps?

[warm scarab]

oh

[static acorn]

Have you browsed the site yet

[warm scarab]

I mean its a super obvious difference which would put abx tests to shame but

feel free

[warm scarab]

I have previously

[static acorn]

there’s one for 128k too

And another for 320kbps

[warm scarab]

320 to 96kbps you can easily do but doing abx on files you are unfamiliar with is pretty dumb

[buoyant vale]

320 is only 160x2 🤮

[warm scarab]

at least use music you know so you don't have to relearn whatever music is playing by listening for minutes

I skipped the rest of the questions but yea

96kbps vs 320 is day and night

and you can use the browser test for that one, 96kbps is far lower than your os default

but the lossless vs lossy test on that website is straight up unfunctioning

[lean grove]

I just thought it was a weird response. He asked what headphone resolution was and you gave him audio resolution instead.

[static acorn]

Well headphone resolution was already answered

Since he was curious also about audio res I gave him that too

[molten lotus]

Y’all listening to music in 4k? Damn

[lean grove]

You ain't?

[molten lotus]

Apparently not

[lean grove]

Gotta switch to local lossless media.

.flac using exclusive mode

[molten lotus]

I’ll just stick with qobuz

[lean grove]

Does qobuz have exclusive mode?

I think tidal does.

[molten lotus]

Idk I’m just scraping the surface of properly listening to music

[velvet pier]

would this be fine for two monitors and a sub https://www.amazon.ca/Fosi-Audio-K5-Pro-Smartphone/dp/B0BFHFSX4C?pf_rd_r=QMCK2RBD1GYH1X2CK2V1&pf_rd_t=Events&pf_rd_i=deals&pf_rd_p=7defd8af-2145-4b88-b004-fe0a633507b1&pf_rd_s=slot-14&ref=dlx_deals_gd_dcl_tlt_34_04c5cc8a_dt_sl14_b1

[warm scarab]

no

it is a meme

[velvet pier]

waht is fine then

gimme somethin

[lean grove]

What are you using it for? Headset on a PC?

Or literally just monitors on a sub

Hooked up to a PC, no headphones

And do you need a dedicated subwoofer output or is your sub hooked up your speakers

[velvet pier]

both

sub is gonna be connected to speakers

actually hold on

https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-Powered-Monitor-Speakers-Near-Field/dp/B09DKV849B/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=639147418306&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000766&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5575243478595651830&hvtargid=kwd-1721884079668&hydadcr=22428_13355988&keywords=edifier%2Bm4&qid=1692220796&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.d0e27fc4-6417-4b26-97cb-f959a9930752&th=1
https://www.amazon.ca/Edifier-T5-Powered-Subwoofer-Active/dp/B07Z58GD12/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20LSO6JRTGPAM&keywords=edifier+t5&qid=1692220835&sprefix=edifier+t5%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.d0e27fc4-6417-4b26-97cb-f959a9930752

are these even compatible

wait im supposed to plug the speakers into the sub, then the sub into the dac, then the dac into the pc

[lean grove]

Technically yes but you'll need some funny cables. You'll need to get some piggyback RCA cables and send that to your subwoofer and your monitors.

So your subwoofer will get RCA and your speakers will get rca

Coming from the same source.

The only ones that have a mic input that aren't terrible are gonna be something from creative or something from schiit like the fulla

[velvet pier]

oh yeah about mic stuff, i was planning on getting a different interface for that

[lean grove]

Even better

[velvet pier]

andur talking about these?

[lean grove]

Yeah. And I'm thinking. You might not need those depending on how the subwoofer works

Because it's got two sets. And I'm thinking it's one input and one output. So if it works the way I think it does, you'd just need two sets of RCA. And you'll pretty much put your subwoofer on between the connection from your amp to your speakers

[velvet pier]

plug the speakers into the sub, then the sub into the dac, then the dac into the pc

[warm scarab]

no he wont

the subwoofer has a passthrough

@velvet pier you just need two pairs of rca

[velvet pier]

ok thats what i originally thought

thanks

[warm scarab]

just use a 3.5 to rca cable and hook it up to your pc

[lean grove]

Okay. The image was blurry it's hard to tell.

[warm scarab]

get an apple dongle for 9$ if you want to make sure your audio quality is on point

[velvet pier]

i just want a smooth knob to control volume and stuff

the mr4s dont have a smooth knob

[warm scarab]

if all you want is looks and not utility

get a behringer x-touch mini

and use midi mixer with it

very neat utility

if you definitely want to get a dac/amp

get a zen air dac

[velvet pier]

the space ship lookin thing?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[velvet pier]

https://www.amazon.ca/iFi-Audio-Zen-DAC-Headphone/dp/B09T6Y27R1/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3U8PQRV1XX8EZ&keywords=zen+air+dac&qid=1692221325&sprefix=zen+air+dac%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.b06bdbbe-20fd-4ebc-88cf-fa04f1ca0da8

what makes it better than the one i sent earlier

[warm scarab]

its an actual improvement to motherboard audio

[lean grove]

The fosi has a weird circuit which for some reason isn't flat

It has a slight dip in the treble and bass

[warm scarab]

how has fosi managed to continuously make items this bad for years

[lean grove]

The one on the right is with all the knobs to the middle

[warm scarab]

aint no way this is real

[lean grove]

The left one shows that even with the EQ knobs you can't fix the weird frequency response

[velvet pier]

ok

[warm scarab]

no way its this bad

[velvet pier]

im still a noob to this stuff

thanks for savin me there lol i almost said i wanted this one for my brtihday

[lean grove]

Asr squiggles show the same thing.

Like, it doesn't really distort as bad as some of the shitter game stuff. These measurements were taken off a basic Mobo ADC

He didn't see any visible distortion

[warm scarab]

how do they manage this

like its unusal for engineering this bad

[lean grove]

Compared to the astro mixamp

[warm scarab]

in this day and age

[lean grove]

It's gotta be intentional or something really stupid.

[velvet pier]

is this stuff just gonna be plug and play

[alpine musk]

What do you think about H6Pro (closed)?
I have PC38X and was thinking about getting something close-back for gaming.
Found "used" for 100$ together with GSX 300.
Description: when the headphones are connected directly to the PC, they just make noise, but they work normally through the GSX 300, lightly used
Thanks

[lean grove]

If it's USB powered yes.

[lean grove]

How do you feel about in-ears?

[velvet pier]

is the space ship thing usb powered i forgt

let me check

[green marsh]

lmao thats like 5db 💀

[alpine musk]

Why do you mention in-ears?

[unique wind]

youre looking for noise isolation and iems are the kings for that

along with having substantially better options under $100 when compared to over ear headphones

[alpine musk]

???

Look up how much H6Pro"s cost

[green marsh]

change 100 to 150 then

same thing

[alpine musk]

Well in US it's closer to 150$, but here new they cost 200+

I will use the mfor competetive shooters. IEMs suck for them.

[green marsh]

tell that to the pros

xD

[unique wind]

[alpine musk]

Thanks for commenting on the headphones and not going into completely different topic.

[lean grove]

Because iems are better than closed backs. They sound better and they isolate better. All while being significantly cheaper.

Something like the $20 truthear holas are better than just about every closed back out there.

[alpine musk]

Ok, but I dont like playing with them. It's not comfortable.

[lean grove]

Alright.

[alpine musk]

Only available through Aliexpress, so 30 days wait.

[green marsh]

the headphones suck there you go

[alpine musk]

Ok

[lean grove]

I got mine on Amazon.

Came in 2 days

[buoyant vale]

yeah they on amazon here ttoo...

[alpine musk]

Good for you, Amazon is not a thing in every part of Europe.

[lean grove]

Well how are we supposed to know that

[alpine musk]

I said it"s only available through Aliexpress.

Sorry if I was misunderstood.

[lean grove]

I assumed you were wrong because Amazon delivers to 99% of the civilized world.

So that's my b I guess.

[buoyant vale]

I can't remember how fast holas came from ali

[alpine musk]

Sometimes it takes 10 days and sometimes 60 for me to get stuff from Ali. Even the more expensive things.

[lean grove]

Where are you based

[alpine musk]

Czech

Czech Amazon redirects me to Germany. I ordered few things from there. When issues came up it was pain to deal with them.

That reminds me that Amazon scammed me when they closed their daughter company that they bought called Book Depository...

[buoyant vale]

shenzen audio will ship the probably I don't know how long it'll be though

[alpine musk]

...never got my order, so -80€ in the drain. Support told me to contact Book Depository. 😄
Repeating that THEY closed THEM did nothing. 6 agents though I just accepted defeat.

If I would get IEMs and give them a try again... what are like 100€, 150€ and 200€ options?

fOr GaMiNg
(best if they wouldnt suck outside of that)

[lean grove]

Truthear zero is really the best option at most prices I think

Despite being only $50

[regal crane]

Are the wh1000xm5 as good as people say they are or is there something better

[warm scarab]

it is fine

its plug and play

[warm scarab]

shenzhen audio is a stupid place to buy things

its aliexpress

but you don't benefit from consumer protection

everything gets shipped in the same amount of time from the same places

[gritty moon]

I've got audient iD4mkII and very happy with it. It's plug and play, even works with macOS, and it has good amplifier for the headphones/speakers and fantom power for the microphone

[lean grove]

There's a lot of headphones that sound better yes.

[gritty moon]

Btw, how do I connect speakers like this to my audio-interface with jacks?

[warm scarab]

you don't

those are speaker taps

you connect it to an amplifier

[gritty moon]

oh, I see

[warm scarab]

you should look into buying active speakers instead if you don't have a speaker amplifier

or do the investment if you are an enthusiast

[regal crane]

But like as an all rounder

[gritty moon]

Yeah, I thought about becoming an enthusiast. I've upgraded my headphones to sennheiser hd599 instead of bluetooth ones and bought condensor mike with the audio-interface. So passive speakers with amplifier soulnds like a good next step

[buoyant vale]

I just use ali 🤷‍♂️

[warm scarab]

yes

[warm scarab]

I don't mean to shit on you but why 599, its very notorious for being super muddy

[gritty moon]

dunno, I liked it

but I thought that amplifier inside audio-interface would work. So I can connect the amplifier to the audio-interface with jacks? If I buy one

[regal crane]

Do u have any recommendations for what I could get under $500-600

[warm scarab]

it is better than whatever bluetooth headphones you can compare it to

but its still not as good as other senns available

[warm scarab]

akg n700nc m2

costs around 200-300$

[regal crane]

Fr?

[warm scarab]

yeah

[regal crane]

Is there a catch

[warm scarab]

equivalent or marginally worse in anc

[gritty moon]

I wanted 660 but it was beyond my price range

[warm scarab]

I can't speak for connectivity, battery life or call quality as I have never those aspects personally

but audio wise, direct upgrade

[warm scarab]

those are also very notorious lmao

worst headphone of the 600 series

hd560s is what I would compare the hd599 in your budget

[warm scarab]

yes

[gritty moon]

oh, I see, thanks!
can someone recommend good amp then? For the pair of passive speakers

[lean grove]

Hmmmm I'd say so, yeah. There's probably better options out there. Audeze Maxwell for just pure wireless closed backs that are Uber functional. iems + qudelix 5k for travel, isolation d flexibility, focal bathys for high quality noise cancelling, JBL tune 710 for best bang for buck.

Like the only thing I could maybe see the sonys being a point of consideration is maybe for noise cancelling.

But $400 for comfy earmuffs that happen to play music is a tall order.

[warm scarab]

id ask in the sonic visions discord sever if I were you

to my knowledge no one is too big on speaker amplifiers here

they can be a grumpy bunch though

[regal crane]

So you're saying I should consider something like the audeze Maxwell or the JBL tune 710s

[warm scarab]

n700nc m2 is directly better than 710

and maxwell is a usb dongle based headset fyi

[regal crane]

Oh alr thx

And btw

Where do u buy them like I'm looking at the akg website and theyre not for sale rn

[warm scarab]

uh

well we probably don't live in the same place so

[acoustic plover]

I got a question about 7.1 surround sound

[warm scarab]

you should ask it

[minor quiver]

that would help

[acoustic plover]

Would stereo headphones basically act like 7.1 surround sound?

[lean grove]

yeah. the maxwell is heavy and does not have ANC. But its incredibly well tuned and incredibly versitile.
the jbl 710 is gonna more normal to a wireless headset and is still tuned really well

[molten lotus]

Can’t answer what we don’t know

[warm scarab]

no they will not

[lean grove]

maxwell does bluetooth too

[warm scarab]

I didn't know that

[acoustic plover]

So for competitive games you should go for 7,1 surround sound?

[warm scarab]

no

[molten lotus]

You should go for a good pair of headphones

[warm scarab]

go with stereo headphones that have good imaging

[acoustic plover]

can you tell where they are witht he good imaging?

[warm scarab]

yes

[acoustic plover]

i am thinking of buying this is it good? "BeyerDynamic DT 770 Pro"

[warm scarab]

dt880 is better

but its an open back

if you prioritize closed backs to the point you are willing to take hits on multimedia audio quality, then dt770 is fine too

[acoustic plover]

what exactly is an open back i don't really learn lots abvout headphoens

[warm scarab]

basically means the back of the headphones are open

and you hear outside more than you do with traditional headphones

and vice versa

sounds a lot better generally though

[acoustic plover]

what is the difference between 250 ohms and 600 ohms?

[lean grove]

350 ohms

[warm scarab]

tldr you can't run 600 ohms

but you can run 250 ohms

[warm scarab]

sort of this

get the 250 one

[young needle]

Open back refers to the casing, your surroundings will be more transparent but it'll give you a better soundstage for whatever you're listening to

[warm scarab]

it will give you better everything generally unless its executed bad

[young needle]

so if you got a noisy environment you probably want closed backs

[young needle]

open backs typically have worse bass response

[warm scarab]

they don't really

[young needle]

headphones with a resonance chamber for bass will be alot more punchy than open

[warm scarab]

unless by open backs you mean stuff phillips and grados makes

[warm scarab]

no they will not

it is inverse response

it cancels out the regular audio waves when it resonates back into the ear

having closed back headphones has no benefit to bass

[young needle]

harmen already did a test, most closed backs have more bass than open backs

[acoustic plover]

isnt there apps also for "7.1 surround" if i ever somehow need ?

[warm scarab]

that is a market statement

if you give 200 shitty companies 1 shitty chinese oem they will put 50 dampeners in it to make it work

wow you have a market full of boomy bass headphones

[warm scarab]

there are

but you don't need them

[acoustic plover]

what do you use you currently?

[warm scarab]

headphones?

[acoustic plover]

mhnm

[warm scarab]

audio technicha r70x and hifiman sundaras

I don't recommend the latter though

[young needle]

Most headphones I've experienced are soso, low end akg's and beyerdynamics

[warm scarab]

prior is very good especially for games

[young needle]

Obviously there's more I could learn but I'm just quoting a friend that has pushed me towards these brands

[warm scarab]

it's just a misconception

[young needle]

though I eq all my headsets anyway

[warm scarab]

resonating inverse response just cancels out normal audio waves

its how active noise cancelling works

[young needle]

Like waves crashing into eachother, just one is flipped

[warm scarab]

yeah exactly

back of the headphone driver outputs opposite of the front

[young needle]

I use it for my live noise cancellation in my daw

better than most denoiser software

[young needle]

I see

[acoustic plover]

I am having a debate rather buying DT 770 or DT 880

[warm scarab]

dt880 sounds better in every way

but it takes in more noise

you can buy both and return whichever you dislike

spend a day or two with each of them

[acoustic plover]

it's just matter of time of getting used of it

from diff headphones

tbf

[warm scarab]

well true

but if you perceive it that way, all the way more reason to be getting 880s

[lean grove]

its not really 7.1
the way it works is it takes a normal 2.0 stereo signal and sort of "splits" it virtually, taking 10% of the left channel and putting it in the right channel for example. it then recombines it with some EQ and filters. adding echos and whatnot to make it seem like the music is coming from a room, rather than headphones. at the end of it all you have is a stereo signal that's got echos and cross feed. it does not add any information. its just an instagram filter for sound.

[acoustic plover]

people claim 7.1 surround is bs

[warm scarab]

it is

[lean grove]

im saying it is bs

[warm scarab]

do you know what 7.1 means

[acoustic plover]

and people say stereo is so much easier tham 7.1

[lean grove]

it is easier

[warm scarab]

7 speakers and 1 subwoofer

you can't add 7 speakers and 1 subwoofer with software

[acoustic plover]

do dt 880 last for along ass time?

[acoustic plover]

xd

[young needle]

I remember when I first switched from turtle beach whatevers to dt770's I thought it was tinny but it took some adjusting after having been used to v shaped gaming headphones forever

[warm scarab]

yeah

[lean grove]

yeah. there's still some kicking from like the 90s and t he 80s but they're kinda gross

[warm scarab]

only thing that can break is the cable really

but even that is tough

[lean grove]

just dont run over it with your chair

[acoustic plover]

?

[warm scarab]

and if it breaks you can have it replaced

[warm scarab]

he means it from a hygiene standpoint

[acoustic plover]

well there is a cool features in life TAPE

[warm scarab]

can't really

[acoustic plover]

tape it ony our desk and it wont go on the floor

[warm scarab]

oh

yeah you can do that

[acoustic plover]

replied wron message

[acoustic plover]

is the cable big?

[warm scarab]

its pretty damn long

[acoustic plover]

lemme see rq

[acoustic plover]

is it liek that/

[warm scarab]

yeah

I have seen uncoiled dt880 cables too

but I am unsure what it is based on

[acoustic plover]

have u ever bought dt880 if yes what cable you got the coiled ones?

[warm scarab]

never bought one

tested one though

had coiled cable

[acoustic plover]

what does ohms do though havent understood i am not fluent english

[warm scarab]

they are the unit of resistance in electronic circuitry

600ohms is too much for your motherboard to handle

250ohms is good

higher the resistance, easier the headphone is to power but less loud it is, 250ohm is a middle point

[acoustic plover]

how do i know wha tohms my motherboard handles?

[warm scarab]

don't worry about it

[acoustic plover]

how do i check thogh ;-;

[warm scarab]

that sort of information is generally not available for most motherboards

you need to check how many watts they output at 32 or 16 ohms

then check how much they output at 600 based off of that

[molten lotus]

alright honestly at this point I think I'm doing something wrong

[warm scarab]

and how loud that gets the headphone while still having a 10-15dB headroom

[acoustic plover]

could i give you my motherboard and you tell me if you can find how much ohms it can handle?

[warm scarab]

you don't handle ohms

ohms is one of the factors that affect how loud a headphone gets

there is also the sensitivity

chief just buy the headphone its fine 90% chance

if it isn't you can get an apple dongle for like 9$ and now it is 100% working

[acoustic plover]

alr

[molten lotus]

ok I'm using qobuz in 24bit/96khz outputting to a schitt stack and listening on some hd600.
I literally cannot hear the difference between this and a 128kbps file of the same song
No it's not my ears, saw an ENT only a month ago and my hearing is perfect
wtf am I doing wrong

[lean grove]

listening is a skill

[molten lotus]

So this is a skill issue of the highest order

[warm scarab]

a good way of noticing things without acquiring skill is listening to it a lot

put it on loop for 10 minutes

then change it

longer you loop it, more you will remember it, and more you will be able to notice more subtle changes

[lean grove]

unrinically yes

[molten lotus]

I mean shit, I've probably listened to daft punk's RAM a thousand times now

[warm scarab]

lmfao

for starters pay attention to different aspects

generally highs will be affected by this

like how subtly/rapidly highs fade out etc

cymbals are the most obvious thing that gets affected

[lean grove]

you've been hearing it but have you been listening to it?

https://tenor.com/view/good-beardstroke-nod-gif-5158425

[silent haven]

is it worth getting the arya organics over the v3 stealth

im considering returning my arya v3 stealth and waiting 3 weeks for the arya organic

supposedly fixes some of the issues i have with the arya

peaky highs that are fatiguing to listen to for a while

and not as much bass as i would like

would cost about the same

would have to wait ONE MONTH to get the organics

idk why

amazon bullshit

[warm scarab]

don't think anyone here has listened to the organics

[silent haven]

joshua valour just did a review on them and heavily praises

[lean grove]

well if joshua valour said its good, it must be

[warm scarab]

joshua praises anything expensive

[silent haven]

idk if theres any charts out there

[lean grove]

there arent

[warm scarab]

we are also waiting on them

[acoustic plover]

would i need an amp to run dt 770 or 880?

[white gate]

The organics are pretty excellent

my favourite he1000 line headphone for sure

[warm scarab]

no

[silent haven]

have you listened to them

and compared with the stealth

[acoustic plover]

at what ohms you need one?

[warm scarab]

its related to the sensitivity of the headphone more than the ohms

normal headphones have 1 variant not 3 with different impedances

mate

[silent haven]

i heard it sacrifices some soundstage

[warm scarab]

just buy the thing

its fine

[silent haven]

which i do like on the aryas

[warm scarab]

even if it isn't

you can get a dongle that can make it work for like 10$

[silent haven]

im using a modi and magni right now

[warm scarab]

that is a bit underwhelming but it will work

[molten lotus]

exactly what I'm using
noobs unite

[silent haven]

organics are also easier to drive might be overkill

i bet a topping dac amp combo would be fine

idk how the topping dx3+ pro compares to the schiits

[acoustic plover]

i will buiy it tommorow

:)

[warm scarab]

badly.

at least to the magni 3+

modi 3+ is a jaded motherboard dac

[silent haven]

is the magni or heretic better

they are the same thing i think

[warm scarab]

magni

heretic is a thing schiit's ceo developed to make audio science reviewers shut the fuck up then pull it out of the market a month after

but it actually sold so much he kept selling it

it was an entertaining interview

[silent haven]

is there any reason to buy the magnius and modius balanced setup, i feel like the whole balanced thing is just placebo when you are using an overkill system on headphones that dont need that much to drive

[warm scarab]

you don't need balanced in most desktop setups

and magnius and modius aren't really that better

they just have balanced

[molten lotus]

But I need balanced

[warm scarab]

why

[silent haven]

i had the opportunity to test the lcd-x today

better comfort and build quality but not as much soundstage and clarity as the aryas

[molten lotus]

If I don’t use balanced my ears will literally fold inside out

[warm scarab]

my dog had that condition... he isn't with us anymore, be careful out there

[tepid torrent]

Side effect of proximity to klaus

[sinful wasp]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wooden kettle]

audio crackling issues in protools via korg piano any thoughts?

getting this error, maybe related?

[velvet pier]

what're the best headphones in the 200 CAD range?

im lookin at the dt770 pro 80 ohm

[lean grove]

dt880 are way better. hd560s is better. akg k371 is better.

[velvet pier]

ehh those are cutting it a bit close to 300

the akg are 250 tho..

[lean grove]

the 361 is a bit cheaper while being pretty close to the 371

just has a bit less bass i think

[velvet pier]

a whole 100 cheaper geez

ill consider this

[young needle]

cad e100

b3t

[velvet pier]

um

[velvet pier]

what?

[young needle]

the microphone lol, dw

[velvet pier]

what about the phillips SHP9600

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-mcdonalds-thumbs-down-i-dont-think-so-gif-16021541

shp9500 is better but only because 9600 is weirdly bloated and thin at the same time

the 9500 is just thin

[velvet pier]

how do they compare to the k361 u mentioned

[lean grove]

361 gonna not have those problems' they're neutral, they have a nice lil bass rise, and their treble isnt as sharp

9500 gonna be comfier tho

but thats really its only selling point

[velvet pier]

choices choices choices

[lean grove]

id go for the 361

[velvet pier]

9600 is $110, 9500 is $135

akg is $160

[lean grove]

o thats weird. 9500 shouldnt be that expensive

should be closer to like 50 usd.

check out other websites

[velvet pier]

all the other sites have similar pricing

[lean grove]

weird that the 9600 is more expensive too

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[timber storm]

weird

[velvet pier]

all the youtube videos about the 9500 seem positive

considering jstn going with it

what about these?

https://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-569-Closed-Headphone/dp/B01L1IIF1A/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1NFU4XQSZ7UFB&keywords=sennheiser%2B580x&qid=1692245655&sprefix=senheisher%2B580x%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.d0e27fc4-6417-4b26-97cb-f959a9930752&th=1

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-mcdonalds-thumbs-down-i-dont-think-so-gif-16021541

[velvet pier]

its so hard to choose

[lean grove]

if only someone gave you helpful advice on what to pick

569 has this weird bass bloat and recessed treble, gonna be mega warm one note farty bass

[velvet pier]

how do the ones you suggested compare to the m40x

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-mcdonalds-thumbs-down-i-dont-think-so-gif-16021541

m40's are better than the m50's and the m50's are hot dogwater

but with the akg 361 the m40's are irrelevent

[velvet pier]

i had the m40xs buit i gave em to my sister

they sounded cool

[lean grove]

this is the guide you want to look at. it has the best options. and i do mean best as in considering literally everything on the market.

[velvet crown]

where's the high end guide? 🙂

[velvet pier]

560s at 100

lucky americans

its 280 CAD

[slender flint]

im looking for a wireless headset that works with xbox one, my budget is 70 dollars canadian. anyone have any recomendations?

[lean grove]

thats an outdated price. its closer to $180 usd nowadays

the guy who made the guide was a bit optimistic with what "$100" means

[velvet pier]

o

[lean grove]

this is an older guide

[velvet crown]

Whats the current 'best options for' cordless headset with mic (Gaming/music/chat) these days - not tooo worried on price (Sub 1k)

[lean grove]

its got more options

[lean grove]

audeze maxwell

and the high end guide doesn't exist because usually people with deeper pockets can experiment more and find out what they like

[velvet crown]

ooh that look fancy 🙂

[timber storm]

i mean if you care about sound quality that much get iems

headphones will never match

[runic ermine]

Would it be possible to 3d print an easily removable cover to quickly convert an open back to a closed back? How much would the audio get affected?

[lean grove]

yes it would be possible, no it wouldn't be wise.

you pretty much need to redesign the entire headphone from scratch if you want to convert an open back to a closed back

[runic ermine]

Would they still work for non monitoring and detailed work though?

[lean grove]

they'd play music

they wouldn't sound good

[runic ermine]

Or would it just absolutely destroy most of the sound

[lean grove]

it would destroy the sound quality.

you can try it if you get open backs and cover up the rears with your hands

sound changes dramatically

[runic ermine]

I might try that later and see how much worse it sounds

I’ll probably only be needing them to be closed back for when the environment is too loud for closed backs (then I guess the audio quality wouldn’t matter as much)

[lean grove]

id say just get some $20 iems for when youre in a loud environment

[runic ermine]

yea true

I’ve got some, but over ears are much more comfortable for me

[unborn gale]

Yes it's possible

I know because I use a pair

[unborn gale]

Not true

reason being that an open back, if designed to sound well completely open, would just need to be designed for a closed back interestingly enough

where for the closed back, it would just cover all venting of the open back design

but of course, the sound signature will still change

[sand fiber]

Any recommendations for Bluetooth headphones with good anc

[gritty moon]

I like sennheiser pods, there anc is good enuf for me

[acoustic plover]

I got a question about razer siren x

[wheat moss]

https://dontasktoask.com

[unborn gale]

Yeah I don't get why people do that

I can't answer a question about a question that doesn't exist yet.

[acoustic plover]

idk why i do that, Apparently razer sirien x act like an amplifier for headphones is it true?

[unborn gale]

Isn't that a mic?

I don't see how it could work as an amplifier for headphones

[acoustic plover]

it is but it has a headphone jack, and people on different places say it is a amplifier

[unborn gale]

Pretty sure that's how you connect to a computer and stuff

But no, I have no idea about mic itself

I'm guessing it just allows you to connect your headphones to the mic so you don't have to have another cable connecting to your oc

[unborn gale]

Wtf

[acoustic plover]

im confused

[unborn gale]

If you're buying it because it's a combo, dont

Ain't no way it'll do any one of those functions well

Especially the amp part

[acoustic plover]

no i dont i have bought it 3 years ago but cba to fix the port now it's getting fixed

so i am planning ot use it with a good pair of headphones

[unborn gale]

Also, why don't you just test it yourself?

[acoustic plover]

dont got the equipment yet

i was just curious

[fallen mulch]

Hello

How is Fifine H8

its 30$ in my country

[tough lava]

aw fuck yeah. I'm going to manage me some audio devices

[fresh basalt]

anybody know of any perferably free software, that will let me plug in an electronic drum kit, and record the midi output?

windows or linux is fine

[buoyant vale]

Reaper probably

[fresh basalt]

i wonder if justin remembers me and will still front me a free copy 😄

not spoke with him for years

[buoyant vale]

you can use it for free

[fresh basalt]

its $60, ill pay for it. its for my 8yo to record himself while hes practicing

[gray kelp]

justin bieber?

[fresh basalt]

justin frankel, guy who wrote repear, and winamp, and gnutella, and various other stuff

[warm scarab]

yes, don't use it that way

[acoustic plover]

i have that mic is it better to use it thorugh that or just to the motherboard straight up?

[warm scarab]

just try

odds are motherboard is better though

[acoustic plover]

i will try onc eit arrives

[tough lava]

like a jillion things

[fresh basalt]

could you recommend something an 8yo could use?

[tough lava]

no 🙂

because I don't really use midi that way, unfortunately

[molten lotus]

Finally i got them

Very nice

[unique wind]

those look pretty nice

[molten lotus]

My sisters looking for some relatively cheap in ear, earphones, she’s looking at raycon and rock candy, but, any other suggestions?

[molten lotus]

Neither of those, they’re NOT good

Do they need to be wireless

[lean grove]

Moondrop nekocakes or Samsung Galaxy buds would be good choices if she needs wireless.

[molten lotus]

I love my first gen galaxy buds

The case is starting to fritz out but the buds work just fine

[modern fractal]

Hello, I'd like some help regarding something

I was told to say the issue I was having here, I believed there was something wrong with my pc but I'm not sure if thats the case. We will see after I let you know what's going on completely

I've been having some issues lately that started about 3 days ago. Pretty much I've been having an Amp for about a month now, and 2 days ago I cleaned my computer. After finishing that I connected everything and all of a sudden this LOUD static started playing in my headphones (which jump scared me). It would only happen when I just turn on my computer, but any audio would be static. Sometimes my mouse would also stop working as well. I thought it was the Amp, because my brother tried his headphones on it and the issue continued, but we used his Amp which is the same one that I have and the issue didn't happen. I ordered a new one yesterday, tried it, and the issue continued. He tried both my amps on his computer, it didn't happen. He AGAIN tried his on mine, didn't happen. He continued to test it, used my previous Amp, and it all of a sudden stopped? I honestly have no clue what's going on

I can give the device link here: https://www.amazon.ca/Headphone-Amplifier-Pre-Amplifier-Audio-Headphones/dp/B07VDQQY95

If you need my specs at all let me know, my computer is a new gen which I don't know if that has anything to do with this device causing issues. My brother's computer is an old gen

I'm sorry it's so long, but I hope I can get some help

[molten lotus]

Sounds like you killed something on your mobo with static

Have you tried different usb ports

[warm scarab]

bruh

contact support

get a warranty appeal

return that piece of shit

fosi audio is a high tier meme

get an apple dongle for 9$ you will have better performance

[buoyant vale]

Fosi has support?

[modern fractal]

They actually said it wasn't a reason to return it

But thank you for telling me its shit

[warm scarab]

say its broken

and use amazon as a mediator

[modern fractal]

I did

[warm scarab]

they will open a ticket directly to the company

[warm scarab]

tell it to amazon not to fosi

[modern fractal]

I have, it still did the same thing

[modern fractal]

I did

I did exactly both

[warm scarab]

what is the result of the amazon case

[modern fractal]

They just directed me to fosi, that was all we could do. The Amazon person ended up helping my giving an order number or something but that was literally all I could do

[warm scarab]

alright for starters stop being a pushover and learn your rights

[modern fractal]

Dude

[warm scarab]

secondly lie to amazon that fosi directed you to them

there are literally a million things you can do

support telling you "its fine" shouldn't stop you

[modern fractal]

I mean you're telling me fosi Isn't a good choice, which already gives me the info I need. I can just return the one I already bought

I bought a second one, I can return that one

[warm scarab]

return the first one too with warranty

80$ saved

[modern fractal]

The warranty ran out

Which is why I can't

[warm scarab]

when did you buy the 1st one

[modern fractal]

A month ago

The warranty expired a few days ago

[warm scarab]

warranty lasts 2 years bro

that is the return window

[modern fractal]

Which is hilarious how it went bad right when it ended

[modern fractal]

I only had it for a month

That was all

[warm scarab]

warranty is different than a return

return is something you do when you dislike something or find it unfit

[modern fractal]

Well idk they said it wasn't faulty or something

[warm scarab]

.

literally stop being a pushover and tell them to fuck off

they will direct you to a manager and he will do the deed

[modern fractal]

Dude I'm just telling you what they told me

[warm scarab]

okay

and I am telling you to tell them to fuck off and tell them you will sue them

its literally your right

[modern fractal]

Ok calm down

You're more mad than me and I'm experiencing the issues

[buoyant vale]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-finch-the-network-my-life-has-value-got-to-get-mad-im-a-human-being-gif-15160654

[warm scarab]

existence of people who don't understand their own rights is the reason why every consumering practice has gone to shit

you are more to blame than the company itself

[modern fractal]

This barely happened 2 days ago man, I just got the new one yesterday

I can do what you told me once I get home

[warm scarab]

wonderful

[modern fractal]

Most happy German

[warm scarab]

trust me its an improvement from what we had 70 years back

[modern fractal]

LMAOOOO

Guten tag <33

Mein liebe <333

Idk what I said but that's all I know

But thanks for the help

[warm scarab]

no problem

[stark aspen]

Fr

[modern fractal]

Your bio is magnificent

[stark aspen]

Ahh thanks!

Yours is also great!

[modern fractal]

It's just crediting an artist but thanks lol

[stark aspen]

👍

[fiery vessel]

May I have some help with the EQ on my GoXLR Mini Software? (Shure SM7B)

[scenic thicket]

What’s the best pair of wireless headphones for music? For like $300?

[warm scarab]

when have you purchased these

[warm scarab]

exclusively for music or gaming included?

[fiery vessel]

Around February of this year

[warm scarab]

ooof

[scenic thicket]

Just music

[warm scarab]

outdoors headphones?

[scenic thicket]

Gym indoors

[scenic thicket]

Good noise canceling

[warm scarab]

I'd recommend in ears for gym honestly, over ears can slip

but if you want over ears regardless

akg n700nc m2 is what you will want

as for in ears, airpod pros 2 are very decent

if you are really not into the idea of airpods due to having an android item or some other reason, galaxy bud pros are a decent option too

[scenic thicket]

These look goofy what abt a better looking 1?

[warm scarab]

well you wanted the best

there it is

[scenic thicket]

2nd best

[warm scarab]

I don't know

I wouldn't be concerned with what is the 2nd best when I can get the 1st best for a good price

ask someone else

[fiery vessel]

Just gonna repost if you guys don't mind

May I have some help with the EQ on my GoXLR Mini Software? (Shure SM7B)

[scenic thicket]

I actually mind

Same

[warm scarab]

can you elaborate

[modern fractal]

@warm scarab

Hey

It turns out uh

They're gunna return my money and my dumbass didn't notice they were I thought they just said no LOL

Oopsies

[warm scarab]

lmao

[fiery vessel]

I would like to EQ my mic to sound more "boomy" as I've heard it called. Like you'd hear on the radio or on a podcast, sometimes even streamers.

[warm scarab]

for starters

you want to not use the goxlr software because its trash

and get equalizer apo

secondly you should look up an eq apo tutorial regarding microphone tuning

thirdly, if there is any hope of returning either the goxlr or sm7b you should look into it as you can get better for 120$

fourth, the odds are you are just using poor mic technique or don't like your own voice

[fiery vessel]

What would be good mic technique?

[warm scarab]

another topic that would be more efficient to looking up by yourself than me summarizing it here

but its generally about positioning the mic and yourself

also do you have a cloudlifter

[fiery vessel]

I do not, but I've cranked the gain up to 63

[warm scarab]

well the goxlr can't really run the sm7b so

that might be a reason

[fiery vessel]

I should invest in a Cloud Lifter?

[warm scarab]

you should instead buy an entirely new setup for 120$ which will actually sound good

rather than spending 100$ on a cloudlifter

or 50$ on a reasonably efficient mic

like sm7b is not at all worth any of these investments

[fiery vessel]

I'm willing to spend quite a bit more, what would you recommend for around $800 as far as audio quality?

Like the best of the best for $800

[warm scarab]

You fail to see

With mics, you don't get better audio when you spend 5000$

You get different audio

You can quite literally use a 3$ lavalier microphone out of your phone and beat sm7b + goxlr + cloudlifter

or you can get an xm8500 for 20$ and eq it to sound better than an sm7b

[scenic thicket]

R the Bugha 5 below headsets good?

[warm scarab]

this isn't like headphones where material science constantly grows, its tech that was available 50$ years ago being reimplemented a thousand times

differences are easy to establish

but that is the point

you get different sound

not necessarily good sound

bueno

anyhow @fiery vessel, I can invite you to a discord server run by audio engineers themselves

if you feel unconvinced or feel set on blowing money you can ask them instead

[fiery vessel]

Wouldn't mind that

[warm scarab]

alright, you will need to wait a bit though I am not in there right now

[fiery vessel]

That's alright, take your time

[scenic thicket]

What’s the best headset for call centers?

[warm scarab]

btw id like to restate that this is the case for cardiod mics and not shotguns or fancy mics with like 10 capsules in them that do surround

[scenic thicket]

Ayo

That’s sus

Mmm..

@frail owl

Did u hear what he said

[scenic thicket]

My discord kitten has those

[warm scarab]

isn't any headset fine for call centers

is there something you'd like to have in particular?

[molten lotus]

Mraow ÓwÒ

[warm scarab]

i dont think there is any other advice

tf is a good call center headset

[scenic thicket]

^

[scenic thicket]

^

[wide rampart]

Is this dac overkill for those headphones?

Or the opposite idk

[tepid torrent]

Portapro communications obviously

[molten lotus]

Yes

[molten lotus]

Interesting

[lean grove]

Moondrop space travel also look good they're new

[molten lotus]

What do u mean they’re not good btw

[warm scarab]

that they aren't good?

I don't follow

[molten lotus]

As in, whats wrong with them

[warm scarab]

they sound terrible

literal trash

[molten lotus]

oh

[unique wind]

$25????

i gotta look at these

how are they getting anc tws for $25

[unborn gale]

most likely using parts that already exist

like stuff that's mass produced for other existing TWS earbuds, and just swapping out the drivers

[warm scarab]

the fuck

these are tws?

[weak rapids]

Mvx2u looks cool

[lean grove]

Courtesy of a redditor and their clones coupler

[unique wind]

thats an incredible deal