#audio-tech

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leaden cloak
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dear god

i love it

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my dac does the same thing when plugged into my PC and i havent been able to fix it so my solution was turn a raspberry pi into a network usb hub and it fixed it

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diwhy lav mic

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i found some instructions on a forum using reaper. its from 2015 so maybe read with a grain of salt

In Reaper....You need to go to OPTIONS>>Preferences>>MIDI Devices and enable your LPD-8.

Then you can :

1)Create a Reaper Track
2)Select your LPD-8 from the input dropdown menu (MIDI>>LPD-8>>all channels.

3)Then you need to light up the RED Track Rec Arm button, and click on the green MONITOR icon (a speaker icon)

4)Now you're ready to trigger sounds.....but you have to load a VSTi (virtual instrument). so.....

5)Press FX and then VSTi and load a VSTi......

6)If you haven't any VSTis then you'll need to download some.....

7)If you want advice on downloading and installing VSTis then consult the Reaper User Manual, or search Reaper Forums, or ask back here.

molten lotus
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no need to buy nor the funds to buy a better microphone

warm scarab
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you can get a sick ass lavalier mic for 3$

molten lotus
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I dont need a better mic

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I barely use it

warm scarab
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the point is

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you could have purchased a better mic at the cost of the cable you purchased

molten lotus
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I got the cable for free

inland bobcat
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Also this thing

nova wagon
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re20?

tepid torrent
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Sure looks like it

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Actually wait no

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The side grilles look different

inland bobcat
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Procaster

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I prefer this one

weak rapids
amber oar
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Looking to get a good audio system for my living room tv, its a pretty big room and im planning on 7.1 surround but i wanted recommendations on both a reciever and tower speakers. The other speakers ive gotten figured out mostly. (Please reply with a ping if you have suggestions)

clear stream
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That oscilloscope is so cute

dapper garnet
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I got the jbl quantum 600 few days ago and they don't connect wirelessly with the dongle dose anyone know why. help 💀

grave pike
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Hello everyone, i have this sub woofer from harman kardon and i am trying to get it to work again. My dad thinks it is broken but i want to check. Maybe we just didn't wire it correctly.

If i let the male connector touch the female port on the outside the sub woofer speaker seems to work.

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The sub has so many more ports but is just the purple one enough?

serene scaffold
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do you have the sub out enabled on your receiver

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you can also wire up the high level inputs on the sub to the front left/right speaker taps if you can't get it to work otherwise

grave pike
serene scaffold
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i have no idea

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rtfm

grave pike
serene scaffold
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depends on your setup and speakers

grave pike
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Phase
Filter
Power on mode

serene scaffold
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phase depends on where the sub is placed

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inverted phase basically makes the sub work backwards

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filter probably refers to a low-pass but usually there is a knob for that so idk

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power on mode is not relevant for your setup

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if you can't get the sub out to work you can also just wire it like this side by side with your speakers

steel escarp
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how does a guy live without artificially boosted treble after getting used to it

unique wind
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it helps if all of your devices are tuned similarly

steel escarp
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my XS sounds like nothing now

unique wind
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my headphones and my iems are both harman

steel escarp
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like it just exists on my head

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and has no personality

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what have I done

unique wind
steel escarp
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idk anymore

unique wind
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audiophile existential crisis

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i think forever chasing unique sound signatures will only lead to further disappointment and blowing more money personally

steel escarp
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the jack of all trades, master of none

unique wind
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better from an economic standpoint to just find a headphone that works for you and go back to enjoying music

steel escarp
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I cannot enjoy music on this if it sounds like nothing

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it sounds like moondrop variations but with more stage

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absolutely dead

unique wind
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that sounds awesome

steel escarp
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I hate variations

unique wind
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ive never tried it but i like my harman tuned iems quite a bit

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what i use is pretty similar except it lacks good air frequency extension because it's dual dynamic drivers instead of tribrid

steel escarp
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my notes on the variations were that they were too big to fit a lot of ears

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cable is so shit it will break within a week. the cable died for everyone who used it within a month

unique wind
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qkz x hbb khan and truthear red are both huge

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the most comfortable iems ive ever used were kbear ks2 but they sound like ass

steel escarp
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sound stage is inside your head. the things that are supposed to sound far away do not sound far away

unique wind
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couldnt even feel them in my ears

steel escarp
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variations hurt so much in my ear I had to return them (comfort issue)

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the bass shelf of harman in ear is also rediculous

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the moment you listen a bit louder

unique wind
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goes to show that different people are sensitive to different things

steel escarp
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yeah ears are not equal

unique wind
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@warm scarab

steel escarp
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I should train my harman how to listen more

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I got pretty far without training the first try

unique wind
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i wanna take that harman test sharur made a video about recently

steel escarp
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now with my knowledge of how sound directionally is experienced in relation to frequency response it should be easier

unique wind
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i can only hear up to like 19.2k but i think my other abilities are decent

steel escarp
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after 18kHz it just stops for me

unique wind
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im probably not far behind

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when i was like 13-16 i could hear up to 20k

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it's only a matter of time before we all have boomer hearing

steel escarp
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you mean until we can enjoy stax

wheat moss
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flat eq > everything else

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listening as the makers intended KEKW

steel escarp
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final masters be approved on car speakers

lean grove
wheat moss
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unmodified

steel escarp
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oh boy

lean grove
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how do you have an unmodified eq

unique wind
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real men use a pair of neumann monitors with room treatment and room eq to get linear response at listening position

wheat moss
warm scarab
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but that isn't flat

wheat moss
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🤦‍♂️ obviously talking about what we have control over, hence the "listening as the makers intended"

unique wind
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do u mean not using any eq on your headphones

warm scarab
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but that isn't flat

unique wind
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flat eq would be no eq if he means dont eq your headphones

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could be a misunderstanding

warm scarab
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but no eq isn't flat

unique wind
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i dont think youre understanding what i mean

lean grove
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i see

unique wind
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when he says as the maker intended he means as the headphone maker intended

wheat moss
unique wind
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not the artist

lean grove
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i thought he meant eq it to "flat"

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which isnt a thing

warm scarab
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then that isn't eq

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lol

unique wind
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exactly

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flat eq = no eq

lean grove
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thats the joke

warm scarab
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wow that's a terrible joke you should feel bad

unique wind
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klaus grumpy

steel escarp
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that you get the artist intend through your headphones

warm scarab
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here comes grey

unique wind
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grey here to misunderstand even after we cleared the confusion

wheat moss
warm scarab
unique wind
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i kinda wanna try diffuse field eq on my sundara

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it probably sounds so fucking bad

steel escarp
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with 10db slope?

warm scarab
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i have

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it sucked

unique wind
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it looks like it would suck

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now i wonder what about diffuse field with harman bass

warm scarab
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shouldn't

unique wind
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that's heresy isnt it

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blasphemy

steel escarp
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this entire chat confuses me

unique wind
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i need to try it

steel escarp
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I do not have the ability to detect sarcasm

lean grove
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i dont see any tone indicators

unique wind
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language barrier + it's discord so understandable

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  • everyone in this chat is cranky 24/7
wheat moss
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"flat" referring to the typical line of eq controls being all flat at 0. unmodified. listening to exactly whatever the hardware produces

steel escarp
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I keep hearing a shrill somewhere from my xs

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I cannot find it via sine sweeps

warm scarab
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that's not flat

steel escarp
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its driving me insane

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is it just the songs that are mastered bad

unique wind
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very well could be

warm scarab
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check for hair touching driver

unique wind
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i think most rock and metal sound really fucking boring or bad on a headphone with linear bass

warm scarab
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open it up

steel escarp
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time to do a joshua valour

warm scarab
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airya time

steel escarp
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fully transparent sound

unique wind
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holy shit

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diffuse field looks like it would give an instant headache

lean grove
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yeah it sucks

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well, kind of. its pretty bright

unique wind
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diffuse field with harman bass

lean grove
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perfection

unique wind
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not as sibilant as i was expecting but everything does sound very artificially airy and compressed

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no bueno

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the epitome of hissy and tinny

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still better than listening to muddy headphones tho

steel escarp
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You need a 10db downwards slope to make diffuse field usable

tough lava
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How to get HDMI surround into your PC

floral hinge
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What’s the best speaker for house parties with a budget of $100?

leaden cloak
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something from jbl or bose. i hope its a small party though

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if you have equipment already maybe something used like some powered speakers

molten lotus
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Can anyone point me in a good direction to learn the basics of audio stuff? Tuning, terminology, that sort of stuff

molten lotus
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Ithankyou

mint crag
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I am wondering if there is software that works like Shadowplay or Medal but just for audio. I know there are ways to do it with hardware, but am wondering if it's possible with just software.

mint crag
# lean grove check out roon.

I just looked it up and I am not sure this solves what I want to do? This is more for local storage of your music and being able to play it anywhere. Not for recording the last X seconds of audio on my PC.

lean grove
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oh whoops. hmmm i think shadowplay can do that, cant it? or you can just use shadow play as normal and just extract the audio later?

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maybe OBS can do it?

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(when i was thinking about shadowplay i confused it for t he nvidia shield)

mint crag
woeful marsh
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im producing rn

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and i never really gave it any thought

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but does 44100 hz vs 48000hz make a difference in sound quality or have an impact on performance

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?

molten lotus
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Not with the headphones you’re using

woeful marsh
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boooooi

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aint no way

molten lotus
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Steelseries Arctis pros, right?

woeful marsh
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will it impact performance bro f my headphones like daaam

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im poor alr

molten lotus
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Those are $200 headphones….

woeful marsh
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oookay ill take my question elsewhere

molten lotus
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Those headphones will not be able to convey a difference, even if your ears could, so no

woeful marsh
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so i can just keep it at 48k then lmao

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if it doesnt impact processing performance

lean grove
# woeful marsh but does 44100 hz vs 48000hz make a difference in sound quality or have an impac...

technically yes, realistically no. the sample rate only affects the upper limit of the frequency you can record. so 44.1khz will have an upper limit of 22.05 khz, mostly above the 20khz range of what humans can hear. i think it starts to roll off a little bit at 20khz so it might affect treble in some really negligable ways
48hkz has a limit of 24khz as a maximum frequency so thats probably a bit "safer"

woeful marsh
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and it just allows a wider road for the audio to drive down basically right

lean grove
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where i could see this being a big thing to consider is if you ever wanna slow something down or pitch it down, there might be more data to play with? idk. it probably matters more for compatibility between software too tbh. CD's are in 44.1khz, most computer stuff is at 48khz

woeful marsh
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alr im just lagging hard in fl and i was wondering if lowering it would give me not, a slideshow for audio

lean grove
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you wanna worry more about bit depth. because that gives you the most flexability in terms of level matching

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if you have a 16 bit recording, you have less volume to play around with than something thats 24 or 32 bits.

woeful marsh
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yuh

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well, thank you for the in depth and comprehensive response

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im doing a lot of pitching and stretching but, like u said it rly doesnt matter so im just gonna keep it at 48k because most pcs use it

floral hinge
uncut sky
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My mic wont work unless my controller is wired connected

molten lotus
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For what

molten lotus
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is epedemic sound any good?

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okay looks like I'm going with Artlist

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anyone know of a good cheap audio mixer for online radio?

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that's easy to use budget is around 500$

lean grove
molten lotus
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ah

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alright well hm would it be okay if I just post links here to get y'alls feedback?

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hm I just had a idea

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the library has a recording room and has a mixer inside so I can just copy them so to speak and get the mixer they use

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if it's within budget

lean grove
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But I'm not gonna stop you from giving it a shot

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🤷

molten lotus
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Focusrite Scarlett 2i2

that's the one I'm thinking of using

lean grove
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Oh that's not a mixer. That's an interface.

molten lotus
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oh

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lol I was researching the wrong thing

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🤦

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tbh I do plan to run it through VB audio cable and then run it through adobe audition (since I'm paying for the full suite why not)

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just to help with background noise mainly

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and now this is something you should be able to help with

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I need a good cardioid condenser (the one that faces you)

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budget is $300

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and found one

uncut sky
tough lava
ebon vortex
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Hey hey, what is better, a 200€ soundbar or 2 bookshelf speakers for 100€ each? I got a decent amp already

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So passive spearker are fine

glad creek
candid cosmos
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Also for 200 Euros mackie cr5-x would also be extremely good. Which are active tho - but id still go that Route.

Dunno if you can get simelarely good speakers without the dsp you get in active Studio Monitors...

ebon vortex
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I am not an audiophile so itll do

ebon vortex
tough lava
ebon vortex
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What to look for?

tough lava
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but basically anything not garbage tier throwaway is probably good

ebon vortex
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I am a total noob in terms of audio

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My brother handed me down his old magnat supreme 802

tough lava
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more or less anything that's not part of an all in one set, and that has reasonable quality construction

ebon vortex
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I like those

ebon vortex
tough lava
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perhaps - everything has exceptions 🙂

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also depends on how big you can go and what's available locally and what your aesthetic preferences are

ebon vortex
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What about those? @tough lava

tough lava
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yeah, see that will give you absolutely crushing quality vs what you could get new for that

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lots of stuff to chosoe from 🙂

ebon vortex
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Which ones do you recommend?

mint crag
tough lava
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but you what you want is apparently to grab the last X seconds of audio when you push a button?

molten lotus
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Pretty sure you can use xbox gamebar for that actually

mint crag
mint crag
tough lava
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You could do it with voicemeeter recording setup and a script.

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although you really at that point want a custom program to run a ring buffer with X minutes/seconds audio, that saves it to a file when triggered

mint crag
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Welp, guess I got to take a master class and learn how to code then. XD

tough lava
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It's not a hugely difficult task - particularly given it's relatively fixed in scope etc.

mint crag
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Yeah, I have enough coding knowledge to understand that (that's why I am so surprised no one else has made it yet), but I really don't have the time for that unfortunately.

tough lava
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yeah I'm literally right now coding an interface to allow easy plumbing of devices using pipewire on linux as a routing/mixing panel.

molten lotus
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Replay buffer

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Nvm you cant record mp3s only video

mint crag
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yep, already looked at OBS, but I appreciate the help

covert basin
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opinion on OnePlus Buds Pro 2 vs Airpods Pro Gen 2

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yes ik the oneplus are half the price

sleek lily
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Is bose really the best or does beats compete

unique gorge
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More deets than what #tech-chat-1 allow can be discussed here.

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But yeah, sadly, you can't hear what I heard.

One of them was muffled sounding, you can guess which one.

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One was very bassy, but, compared to the others, it sounded nice.

Though, I did have to fine tune it.

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Even now, I find it bassy, so, I might take it down 2 steps.

lean grove
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Also beats aren't that good either.

unique gorge
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Word through the grapevine is that they're now fine.

flint galleon
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I wish Mark Levinson stuff was more affordable/well known

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theyre such amazing products

unique gorge
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If you have a Samsung, give Adapt Sound a shot.

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Test asks that you be in a quiet area, and I recommend you have headphones on.

You'll get beeps and boops of various frequencies and volumes, and you'll tap "can hear" or "cannot hear".

At the end, you'll have a before and after with the profile it made for you based on your answer.

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They show you the equalizer and how it changes with your answers.

lean grove
lean grove
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Consumer audio is just so far behind basic hifi. It only makes sense if you look at it from a convenience and comfort perspective

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Otherwise, there really isn't much out there that's "good".

unique gorge
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I'd love to hear some planar stuff sometime in the future.
Sounds fun to have a thing in your headphones go bzzzzt.

lean grove
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Well actually I think JBL has some stuff that's tuned well but I always forget which one 🤔

lean grove
unique gorge
lean grove
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Who?

unique gorge
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Australian channel, used to be about iPods (fixing, modding, etc) until he branched off into general bootleg MP3 players and iPod knockoffs.

molten lotus
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Dankpods on top

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@molten lotus make your claims in here if you’re so knowledgable

unique gorge
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Has reviewed some HiFi stuff, like Meze Empyreans (not cheap!) and FiiO's chungus DAC/MP3 thing.

molten lotus
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Yamaha AG03

Anyone know if this is any good?

sleek lily
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@molten lotus wanted to let everyone here know that bayths are best Bluetooth headphones for gym on a budget

molten lotus
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as I just want something that can do live streaming and a online radio show without being super complex

sleek lily
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Tall better trust him, he's a pro

unique gorge
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He does have a Mojo Chord and had a Diablo for detonating awful buds.

sleek lily
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He's owned headphones all they way up to the $200 mainstream "audiophile" range

sleek lily
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Basically audio Jesus

molten lotus
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Flood does, very much

sleek lily
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@lean grove you're just jealous of @molten lotus frfr

sleek lily
lean grove
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I'm annoyed that y'all are hoping to drag him through a more knowledgeable channel in hope that someone else can prove him wrong for you.

sleek lily
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I just want to see him talk in here and stop flipping out about how everyone needs to get focals he hasn't heard in tech chat

lean grove
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Like there's zero reason for you guys to be starting drama

molten lotus
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Starting?
It’s to get them out of harassing people in tech chat 1

lean grove
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And? Ignore him?

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Call a mod?

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If someone's being stupid for attention, the worst thing you can do is give them attention

molten lotus
lean grove
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Block and move on. It's 2023.

covert basin
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meow

molten lotus
candid cosmos
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Sorry for ping btw, its just muscle Memory...

unique wind
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i daily drive fiio utws5 and use aptx-adaptive

candid cosmos
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Wait, tws aptx is a thing now?

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I never found anything.

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Not once.

unique wind
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yah been out for a while

candid cosmos
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Daym.

unique wind
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at this point the best option is the ifi go pod but it’s $400 and backordered

unique wind
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fiio utws5 is around $150 when it’s available

candid cosmos
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Im sticking with cable xD

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But cool to know

candid cosmos
unique wind
candid cosmos
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35 Euros and i havent had anything better - yet.

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For iems.

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Over ear, not remotely in that range.

unique wind
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you can use tws adaptors for over ear headphones and it’s pretty cool

candid cosmos
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Kz zs10 pro x ftw

unique wind
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i listen to spotify anyway so i’m not losing any fidelity with 280-420kbps bluetooth and my only penalty is 50-80ms of delay

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i think the creative bt-w4 bluetooth transmitter that i use defaults to 420kbps 80ms but i’m still not able to perceive any delay when i use them

candid cosmos
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Thing is just bt low Bitrate is still killing Audio smh - not to mention issues like Sound Level, which at least annoys me

molten lotus
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Look the original point was not everyone is an audiophile and features do matter for people

candid cosmos
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The only thing i was happy with was either apt x HD

unique wind
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i’m definitely not

candid cosmos
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Or ll for osu where it was very very at the edge of im fine with it..

molten lotus
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My b

unique wind
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i want ifi go pods and arya organic man

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i’m gonna be so disappointed if they measure exactly the same as arya stealth

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or worse

molten lotus
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I’m still a bit turned off by the arias after the filters thing

unique wind
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filter?

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r u talking about moondrop aria?

molten lotus
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Yea I’m stupid I forgot about the other aria

unique wind
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yah i meant this

candid cosmos
molten lotus
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Hifiman

unique wind
molten lotus
steel escarp
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Arya organic is 1500 euros here

unique wind
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it’s sad that ifi go pod is so ugly

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because it has 3x the power output that utws5 does so i want it

candid cosmos
timber storm
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lagga you arent even a trained listener

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how tf you gonna talk about audiophile

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not to mention that even as low as 128k opus can be transparent to most

molten lotus
unique wind
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audiophiles hyperfocusing on music compression when their headphones have terrible tuning anyway

candid cosmos
candid cosmos
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Heavily xD

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Or like, accusing cables.

molten lotus
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You don’t use $9000 fiber optic cables?

unique wind
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gotta have lossless music to listen to on my edition xs that don’t have proper ear gain and also have roller coaster treble

candid cosmos
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I know its a joke - but still

molten lotus
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Ye just a joke

candid cosmos
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Something like superconductor, cable cooling costs more a month than this house

candid cosmos
# molten lotus Ye just a joke

The Bad thing is just, the price is realistic for audiophile cables with random sientific sounding works arranged like "octogonal assisted wavelength optimisation coating on the plugs"

molten lotus
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I don’t have the ears or brain for what you just said

candid cosmos
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Its nonsense

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But sounds not bs to people with 0 knowledge of anything -

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Basically what most audiophile stuff does.

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Sorry. Audiophile scamming stuff.

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Theres a difference.

unique wind
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i use “CESS” brand cables

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pretty affordable on amazon and every kind i’ve had has been great

molten lotus
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I buy shit at target KEKW

candid cosmos
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For actual speaker wire, you can actually use anything.

lean grove
candid cosmos
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For the analog Signals tho - there you have to use something reasonable - allthough dont need to spend a grand on a chinch cable.

unique wind
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still waiting on someone to make something like ifi go pod/ utws5 but using a proprietary 2.4ghz connection for lossless 0 latency

candid cosmos
unique wind
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we’ve had the tech for such a long time and still no products

candid cosmos
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Hifi is anything not crap, which bt over apt x can do.

unique wind
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we could literally have genuine lossless 7000kbps with less than 0ms delay but nah

lean grove
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Useless semantics. Distinction without difference.

molten lotus
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Solutions without problems?

lean grove
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That too

unique wind
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make me 2.4ghz tws adaptors @lean grove

unique wind
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i’ll slide you 10 bands

molten lotus
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Devoid of substance or purpose, a hypothetical pattern?

unique wind
candid cosmos
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Less then 0ms delay means basically 0 reliability

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Aka other issues.

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See it as wigig for vr.

molten lotus
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Hard to do with low power sure

unique wind
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lmao i read that nils

lean grove
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Good

unique wind
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audio is extremely low bitrate and very simple

candid cosmos
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xD

candid cosmos
molten lotus
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hello audio tech

unique wind
candid cosmos
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Especially in battery powered stuff which doesnt really allow fast computing

unique wind
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2.4ghz can very easily sustain <1ms latency with almost null jitter

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it probably would drain battery quick to run high bitrate tho ur right

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actually i don’t know, it might use less battery to not compress the signal being transmitted

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because it wouldn’t need to be decompressed on the TWS adapters

candid cosmos
molten lotus
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I mean there are 2.4ghz audio devices
Like the xbox controller KEKW

candid cosmos
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Many actually.

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But every single one i had, had a terrible Bitrate because of that

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Latency was great sure.

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But Sound awful, worst example Astro a50.

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The speaker is capable, the connection not.

unique wind
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LG just demonstrated 30gigabyte/s wireless video, audio, and usb transmission with their new “wireless” oled tv

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and we mastered simpler connections like peripherals so long ago

candid cosmos
#

Then theres f. E. Corsair where its mixed and use able.

unique wind
#

no reason it can’t be done with audio

candid cosmos
#

Yes.

molten lotus
#

I mean 2.4ghz should have a theoretical max of 450mbps right? That should be plenty

candid cosmos
#

But that requires directional antennas, and pretty hefty ammounts of Power.

unique wind
#

but even if it was that’s 450mbps lmfao

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true lossless stereo is only like 7000kbps

molten lotus
#

I’m just going off the top of my head right now

unique wind
#

7mbps

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plus 2.4ghz gaming headsets already exist

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with null latency

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just waiting on someone to make a true wireless type product

candid cosmos
#

If you send raw rf, you get what you have with Radio, noise and stuff, thats why its Digital, but Digital means it has to have enough data to either send it multiple times or to correct Transmission errors.

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Lower latency would mean sending more at once, to not have any cutouts, if you want high Bitrate you would want some latency to make sure you have a sort of buffer.

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Dacs do the same f. E.

unique wind
#

me and the boys suffering with literal dinosaur age tech (bluetooth) knowing full well that lossless null latency wireless audio was possible more than a decade ago

molten lotus
#

I just like wires because it’s simple OMEGALUL

candid cosmos
#

Same.

unique wind
#

the only way a wire doesn’t bother me is if the source is below my desk so that the cable isn’t running across the desk

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but i still like being able to just walk away and still hear my voice chats

candid cosmos
#

But more like cause its currently simply better - like Look at tws earphones, there simply doesnt fit much amp or speaker or anything, its smol.

molten lotus
#

If only I voice chatted

molten lotus
#

I literally don’t have a mic KEKW

candid cosmos
#

I wont cause i have opened a few for tws speakers and stuff.

unique wind
#

fiio utws5 handle almost any headphone if you don’t use eq

candid cosmos
#

For that its btw pretty cool.

unique wind
#

go pods probably handle eq since they have 3-4x the power

candid cosmos
#

Its like with headphones like 4x the size of like galaxy buds

molten lotus
#

I just use a questyle M15

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Tbf the galaxy buds are tiny

candid cosmos
#

Any tws headphones are

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Like most iems are larger than tws headphones.

And they are just speakers in a housing.

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Like daym.

molten lotus
#

I just got told the IE600s suck 😔 my heart is broken

unique wind
#

iirc they do yeah

candid cosmos
#

In terms of comfort most likely, in terms of Sound - maybe for the price. But they def wont be Bad.

molten lotus
unique wind
#

if you’re a wired user just get truthear crinacle red, they embarrass everything up to $400-1000 triple driver iems

molten lotus
#

But I already have 2 IEMs
Moondrop arias and IE600s linusShame

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If they’re that good I’ll get em

unique wind
#

id be curious to hear how you feel about them

molten lotus
#

The zero reds? Like $50 or so?

unique wind
#

$55 iirc yah the red ones

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if i used wired id definitely be using them

molten lotus
#

Worth trying out
I got the arias and ie600s without reviews, just liked the way they sounded when testing KEKW

unique wind
#

aria sounds fine but they didn’t really agree with my ears

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as in for comfort

candid cosmos
#

I will at one point most likely try that Budget planar magnetic iems - but as for Dynamic i actually didnt have anything better yet, allthough i never had the extreme high end stuff worth many 100 Euros.

molten lotus
molten lotus
unique wind
molten lotus
#

Is that a thing?
I just used them in singapore and was really pleased

candid cosmos
#

You are already better than me

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If i have something i really like, i want it. Asap.

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So i get it - lol

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Not a great way, but yea.

molten lotus
#

The equipment needed made it unreasonable
I was on a ship and it’s not feasable

candid cosmos
#

Talking when listening on speakers i really like etc.

dull relic
#

how would i monitor a usb mic connected to another pc in real time? i play with my brother and we want to hear each other's mic in our headphones

molten lotus
#

Join a party together

candid cosmos
#

Or discord like you are already on

supple mauve
#

maybe not the right channel, but does anyone know where i can still safely get firmware for the sennheiser gsx 1000 amp/dac? im running into some issues, and apparently new firmware would solve them, except the main updater doesnt work anymore (i guess since sennheiser gaming -> epos now)

lean grove
supple mauve
reef hearth
#

Hi! can someone recommend me a pair of TWS earbuds/headphones in the budget of 80 euros? I was thinking about Soundcore A40, Freebuds 5i and skullcandy hesh ANC

molten lotus
#

Does anyone know of a good XLR mic that I can buy budget is around 200$

hexed flame
unborn gale
tough lava
#

I'd watch a bunch of mic audition videos

reef hearth
nova wren
#

have you guys seen th KZ facebook post about DMS and crin? all of the tech drama kicking off today 😭

buoyant vale
wheat moss
#

right at the top

nova wren
unique wind
#

KZ doesnt have anything worth buying anyway

buoyant vale
#

KZ should do a collab with Amir if they like listening at 120db so much

nova wren
#

i had and used some cheap KZs for like 3 months

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my £20 moondrop chus replaced them

unique wind
#

truthear and crinacle really made almost every iem pointless when they launched the zero red

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unless you wanna run tws and still have harman bass then the qkz x hbb khan is good

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since the red has a lot less bass without the wired resistor

molten lotus
molten lotus
#

I ran through this harman how to listen thing and hit level 7 linuth is that good or bad

unique wind
molten lotus
#

Is this a real thing or is it like audiophile copium, I’m just doing it for educational purposes

unique wind
#

the harman research realm is objectivity

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well mostly

molten lotus
#

It’s one of the more simple educational things I’ve used for audio so far
As long as it isn’t snake oil and actually teaching, I’m down

unique wind
#

afaik that software is designed to test and possibly improve your listening ability yes

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ive never used it myself

molten lotus
#

I just like being able to identify what’s in what range tbh, where deficiencies lie

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It’s hard being a noob and trying to identify what’s cope snake oil and what actually matters technically KEKW

unique wind
warm scarab
#

I can hit 10 with my ears closed

unique wind
#

youre just better

molten lotus
#

I just have a skill issue

warm scarab
#

go to a hifi shop and demo

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if you hear a difference there is that

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if you don't then there is that

unique wind
#

nah

molten lotus
#

We don’t have hifi shops here in texas

warm scarab
#

just exploit amazon return laws

#

ez

molten lotus
#

I have my HD600s and some grados and that’s good enough for me

unique wind
#

listening to random gear in a store full of noise and people when nothing is volume matched isnt very objective

warm scarab
#

stop living in texas it's that simple

unique wind
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id totally do it if there was one near me though

warm scarab
molten lotus
warm scarab
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its related more to the store than the concept of one

unique wind
#

buy me edition xs

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ill tell you its uncomfortable and has poor vocal presence and imaging

warm scarab
#

vocal part is subjective

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but imaging on hifimans are sort of wack in general

unique wind
#

yeah because they dont use correct ear gain lmao

warm scarab
#

you don't need ear gain for imaging

unique wind
#

its extremely important

warm scarab
#

not at all

#

ear gain helps soundstage and clarify

unique wind
#

you can test it yourself with your 400se, toggle the dip fill eq while listening to music and see how much more centered and clear vocals are with the dip filled

warm scarab
#

sure I can

unique wind
#

if you cant tell youre a level 3 listener

warm scarab
#

I can add a lowpass to 10k

unique wind
warm scarab
#

not at all

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soundstage is related to impulse response mostly

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which is why planars layer good and sound clean

unique wind
#

imaging is the location of sounds in the stage man

warm scarab
#

yeah which isn't related to soundstage itself

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they are caused by different factors

unique wind
#

if you have wonky imaging your soundstage sucks even if it sounds large

warm scarab
#

you can have headphones with super small stages and great imaging

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and vice versa, which is every hifiman

warm scarab
unique wind
warm scarab
#

they don't have super good imaging but notably better than most of their comparisons

warm scarab
#

there is nothing in front or back for everything not edition xs

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and even then it doesn't get a ton better

unique wind
warm scarab
#

placebo

unique wind
#

😹

warm scarab
#

turn your back to your monitors

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and try

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it will sound like its coming from behind you

unique wind
#

i literally walk around with my headphones wym

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i use utws5

warm scarab
#

oh right

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i don't know man id say its related to the track you are listening

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frequency response and imaging doesn't correlate all that much unless its pretty scuffed

unique wind
#

you can place sounds where you want in post

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in the 21 savage song “a lot” when he adlibs “a lot” its behind the head and sounds cool

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great song and music video

unique wind
#

it has a large part in making sure the imaging sounds similar to what the producer intended

blazing minnow
#

Might be the wrong place for this, but I’m looking for a soundbar for my gf. I know speakers and a receiver would be way better, but I want a compact solution for her. Something that would be good for movies and also music when she’s cleaning her apartment

warm scarab
#

no ideas from me chief

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we don't really do sound bars for the reasons you mentioned

blazing minnow
#

That’s fair… I’ll check Reddit lol

unique wind
#

i only know a little about large soundbar systems

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not the smaller budget conscious ones

warm scarab
#

reddit audio communities are well known for hitting barrel bottom iq averages

unique wind
#

rtings has soundbar measurements but you have to subscribe to their site to read them

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iirc you do anyway

dull bolt
#

can anyone help me . how do i remove static sound from my microphone (headset microphone) i dont know how to ground loop it , or it may be another problem. i have tried using in build windows FX supress static sound but it dont work completely

haughty girder
#

you sure it's not just room noise?

dull bolt
#

yes

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cause my laptop default mic works fine

haughty girder
unique wind
#

can confirm the videophile portions of reddit are really ignorant too

steel escarp
#

Wait

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Why is nobody talking about these

molten lotus
#

Forgive my ignorance, but that looks like ass

unique wind
steel escarp
#

It's just not smoothed like you are used to

unique wind
#

if so nearly all headphones are like that

molten lotus
#

The low is mostly what I’m looking at

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Still, I want to try it whoa

unique wind
#

looks fine to me

steel escarp
#

Lol 2 completely different measurements from what I showed

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Oratory measurements got 0 bass

unique wind
#

crinacle graphs are almost always more flattering

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hey they support ldac

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idk if they have issues ive never looked at them

#

sad the bluetooth mode looks like it has no bass extension at all

#

that might be why nobody talks about them

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or maybe the internal amps suck, who knows

molten lotus
#

Would that be a power conservation thing

steel escarp
#

The pro version is just a focal elex in disguise

unique wind
#

say for example you have a 6db bass rolloff and flatten it out with eq

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youd need 4x the power to get to the same volume you were before the eq

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double the wattage every 3db if i remember right

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thats why i dont bother fixing bass rolloff on my open backs i just raise the 50-105hz range to harman

steel escarp
#

They even look good for hifimans

unique wind
#

looks like a tan he400se with better earpads

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if it is i wouldnt pay $300 for it

steel escarp
#

Honestly I should demo one next time I get the chance

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18Ω 93.5db

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Damn

warm scarab
unique wind
#

arya organic measurements pls

steel escarp
#

Pls

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None of the stores here have it in stocks yet

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Can't demo it anywhere

unique wind
#

everyone says its the best arya but i wanna see squiggles

molten lotus
steel escarp
#

I bass boost xs

unique wind
#

valid

steel escarp
#

My amp can run susvara

unique wind
#

same

steel escarp
#

With like 50% headroom

unique wind
#

before it died from static discharge anyway

steel escarp
#

Schiit moment?

unique wind
#

yah my magnius

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touched my headphone cable and it discharged into the amp

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killed the right channel

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literally all i did was sit down and touch the cable

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ive killed many things with static discharge

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moondrop aria, dbx 286s, schiit magnius

unique wind
#

when my 286s died years ago all i did was touch the windscreen of my shure sm57 that was plugged into it

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pop and the processing section of the 286 was dead

steel escarp
#

Barrel plug equipment isn't even grounded

unique wind
#

its insane to me that electronics are still so fragile to ESD that a tiny shock from wearing socks on carpet can kill them

steel escarp
#

Honestly the color scheme looks based in that pic

unique wind
#

yah silver is goated

steel escarp
#

Americans like black more

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For their equipment I think

unique wind
#

my schiit gear is black but only because the stuff that i have only came in black

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(iemagni and magnius)

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i wanted silver

steel escarp
#

Schiit stuff is unobtanium here

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It took like 3 months to arrive

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And you pay 21% tax for importing

unique wind
steel escarp
#

Plus 70 shipping

unique wind
molten lotus
#

I live in texas, it took like a day KEKW

steel escarp
#

Lmao the hifiman stands

unique wind
#

hey man they work

steel escarp
#

Don't even got the nice wood ones

unique wind
#

nope those are the foam ones that came in the headphone box

#

free stands lul

steel escarp
#

I have more stands than headphones

#

I need to buy more headphones

unique wind
#

arya organic

molten lotus
#

What do y’all use for stands

unique wind
#

u saw mine

steel escarp
#

They are just there to obstruct my view

unique wind
#

the full family

steel escarp
#

You could have bought a violectric v222 instead of those things

unique wind
#

my 400se and 770s both have less than 100h of use i think

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(they both suck)

steel escarp
#

I find he400se with EQ pretty decent

unique wind
#

400se can sound great with eq but it'll never escape being built like a literal mcdonalds toy

steel escarp
#

better than sennheiser build

unique wind
#

theres no way

#

which sennys are worse than 400se?

#

ive never touched any sennys

#

if you told me 400se were $40 id believe you

steel escarp
#

any 5xx series

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but the 5xx series senheisers I tried sounded like mac donalds toys

#

it was so offputting I had to instantly take them of

#

I think I tried hd599

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or something similar

#

the mid range was so audibly distorted on the unit I tried

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oh nvm you cant get a violectric v222 for all the source gear in that pic together

unique wind
#

i wouldnt want to

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it's ugly and youve had issues with yours

steel escarp
#

it sounds clean af at my work

#

I think my dac is causing issues

#

I remember using a burson amp and the firmware just straight up froze and died

#

in the store

#

Australian engeneering

#

never buy anything with a display

molten lotus
steel escarp
#

its like a 1400 euro amp

#

a bit fuller mid range than my current amp but mine is way better in dynamics and I found it way cleaner

molten lotus
#

Yea I just use a schiit stack plugged into my pc I don’t know these words

unique wind
steel escarp
#

I listened to both units side by side

#

without reading any reviews first

#

the burson as a class A amp got way hotter so obviously it sounded warmer

unique wind
#

bro can hear temperatures

steel escarp
#

the black color of the violectric v222 makes it sound a bit darker

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and makes bass harder

#

but the size of the burson gave it more sound stage

unique wind
#

ik youre shitposting but that is literally how i feel when i read word salad reviews of audio products

#

where all they do is yap about things that have no basis

#

and never post any measurements

steel escarp
#

I have no idea how measuring these things in an amp would even work

unique wind
#

they dont

steel escarp
#

you can probably actually measure a change in frequency response with tubes

unique wind
#

honestly idk

steel escarp
#

but I have seen no side to side comparisons on different source gear

unique wind
#

rare to see people talk about true tube amps these days

steel escarp
#

nah you 100% can, since tube amps change the frequency response

unique wind
#

and all the hybrid tube amps measure way beyond neutral anyway

steel escarp
#

I gotta plug my dt880 in a tube amp again

unique wind
#

where u gonna find a real tube amp

steel escarp
#

I had like 20 seconds a 13k euros tube amp

#

oh a store 30 minutes away sells them

unborn gale
#

Did you know that DT990 drivers measure very flat

steel escarp
#

felix audio tubes

unborn gale
#

And actually sound warm

steel escarp
#

yeah the driver looks flat to me

unborn gale
#

I put it in an open chassis without all the tuning and stuff

steel escarp
#

bro compensated with diffuse field

unborn gale
#

Actually impressively flat

#

DT990 drivers look like this

steel escarp
#

fostex driver spotted

lean grove
steel escarp
#

I was shitposting

#

c'mon

lean grove
#

ltt triple down special

steel escarp
unborn gale
#

Uh yeah

steel escarp
#

wait is the baffle clip on

unborn gale
#

Slapped it in the Static Oval chassis

unborn gale
molten lotus
# unborn gale

That doesn’t look very flat to me, you can clearly see the shadows

unique wind
unborn gale
unique wind
#

im a level 15 listener btw

#

i wish that guy who came in here a long time ago talking about how he has the best ears objectively and mains ER2SE with motherboard output would come back

#

didnt he claim he could hear up to like 23k

steel escarp
#

average sample rate dont even play back 23kHz

#

or do it

unborn gale
#

Lmao

unique wind
#

i think he said he was tested irl by harman researchers

molten lotus
#

Ain’t no way

unique wind
#

so yeah 16bit 48khz would support 23khz

steel escarp
#

tidal is 44.1

#

as is most stuff

#

22.05kHz

unique wind
#

most computer stuff is 48k

steel escarp
#

wait I can just upgrade my dt880 to dt1990

unique wind
#

i gotta see you do that

lean grove
steel escarp
#

I did the dt880 detachable cable mod

#

resoldering wires to drivers is 10x easier

unborn gale
steel escarp
#

ye

unborn gale
#

Huh

steel escarp
#

time to make it

#

honestly this doesn't even sound stupid

unique wind
#

lul

molten lotus
#

Looks like my ears peak around 16khz

unique wind
#

ruff

molten lotus
#

whoa maybe that’s why

unique wind
#

that scoop is unfortunate

#

probably destroys airiness in music

steel escarp
#

the dt1990 isn't even that open

unique wind
#

the driver is on the table

steel escarp
#

chassis has like 12 small holes

#

I am so tempted

#

to spend 180 euros on those drivers

unique wind
#

why

#

its gonna sound bad

steel escarp
#

why do you think

unique wind
#

because youre taking drivers from a different headphone

#

none of the other chassis characteristics that play into the tuning are the same

steel escarp
#

only one way to find out

#

cop a cheap dt1990

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and fuck around

unique wind
#

gotta save ur money for organic

steel escarp
#

all I get out of it is better stage

#

I found xs more detailed than Arya SE

#

I didnt hear anyone say detail is better on organic

#

@unique wind are you gonna cop organic if it looks good in the graph

unique wind
#

i just dont like wearing over ear headphones enough to spend $1200 when i need to be saving up for a car

molten lotus
#

Real

steel escarp
#

I get a free car possibly

#

fiat 500

#

looks like a woman car tbh deadaf

lean grove
steel escarp
#

still didn't get my fiio ft3 refund

lean grove
#

Grey is the unluckiest man in audio truly

steel escarp
#

bought 1k speaker setup

#

completely failed in my room

#

had to sell

lean grove
#

Putting the L in audiophiLe

rain root
#

any suggestions on a simple 2.1 living/entertainment room setup? budget is around 1-2k GBP, just wanted some ideas where audio will be clear and bass will be well feelable through the bones (:

steel escarp
#

Get 2 subwoofers

#

Unless you live alone

rain root
#

i think parents would love to enjoy their music/movies on the side too

steel escarp
#

I am not even joking. It's a really good thing to have when you are on the couch with multiple people

rain root
#

i was thinking of going for a slightly powerful subwoofer

#

just not sure what speakers and uhm receiver/amp thing

#

new to audiophile stuff so

steel escarp
#

What matters is the lowest frequency it can reproduce

#

You will likely never crank them to full

#

Unless you want people to hear it 3 blocks away

rain root
#

so what do you suggest

#

in terms of a subwoofer, the speakers and the thing to connect them all to the tv

steel escarp
#

A pair of Kali audio lp6 v2

#

Hmm you need something to plug it in to

rain root
#

hm something that looks good though, since its going in our living room

#

i was thinking tower speakers just to fill out the space

steel escarp
#

I'd go with bookshelf speaker on stands instead

#

You'd need a remote to control the volume

#

Unless your tv let's you control the volume of the RCA outputs

#

Not all of them do

lean grove
#

The amp you can probably find something else. Like a proper receiver with dirac

steel escarp
#

A topping E50 or SMSL D6 have balanced out and a remote

lean grove
#

That would work. Might be kinda janky tho.

#

I'd prefer a single unit with more connectivity for the source

buoyant vale
#

hopefully the remote on the D6 is better than the su8

steel escarp
#

D6 even has bluetooth

#

For its price

#

Honestly I'd go for a fully active system

#

Active speakers and sub

lean grove
#

Simplifies things. The Kali sub is pretty swanky too.

#

But they're not very ... Sexy...

#

Not like the jbls

rain root
#

any active speakers?

steel escarp
#

And just hook them into one extension box you can turn off with a single button

#

Kali Audio LP6 v2

#

These are active

#

Honestly maybe the extra you pay for the JBL is more than worth it

#

I personally wouldn't want to deal with getting an amplifier for speakers

#

If the speakers are cheap

lean grove
# rain root any active speakers?

Active tower speakers are pretty rare. And usually exceedingly expensive. Buchardt a700 and kef ls60 are what come to mind. Both would be amazing if you can afford them.

#

Kef is British too.

sharp bridge
#

just jumping into this conversation so idk if this is relevant but I'd spend extra money on sound treatment first before even thinking about nicer speakers.

lean grove
#

Might be able to convince your parents to up their budget.

lean grove
#

Some speakers are really well controlled and can be pretty apathetic to rooms. Especially if you have something like dirac.

lean grove
rain root
#

honestly sound treatment would be nice but my family aren't rlly uhm

#

ykwim?

sharp bridge
# lean grove It depends on the speakers.

i mean to an extent. but cutting down on reflection time especiall in the lower frequencies is goinf to make a much bigger difference in percieved quality than any nice speaker

rain root
#

like they wouldn't go through the hassle of that ykwim?

#

what are your opinions on dali?

#

i heard dali bookshelf speakers once in a store and they sounded great

lean grove
steel escarp
#

A pair of kali audio lp6 v2 costs like 400 new, you need to spend 50 on a pair of stands. 190 on the smsl d6. That leaves the rest for 2 active subwoofers and room treatment.

sharp bridge
#

and by sound treatment i don't mean just stick foam panel everywhere. just some curtains in the room and maybe some form of bass trapping

steel escarp
#

Always buy studio monitors second hand

sharp bridge
#

even sofas act as bass traps

sharp bridge
steel escarp
#

You can save a lot by buying speakers second hand. They are usually in good condition too.

#

Especially cheaper stuff is widely available second hand

lean grove
steel escarp
#

You just need good placement to have somewhat good low frequencies

sharp bridge
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really just getting a basic understanding of room nodes is going to help a lot because speaker distance from the wall and where your listening position is is going to make a bigger difernece frequency balance than just adding more subs

steel escarp
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You need 2 subs if you listen with multiple people at once

rain root
lean grove
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Yeah I know

steel escarp
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Alr get a sound bar

lean grove
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Greys idea with the Kali system wouldn't be bad. Just I think you can do better than the smsl d6

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Also the Kali is kinda ugly

steel escarp
rain root
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Bowers & Wilkins 603 S2 are kinda my taste

steel escarp
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I like the white ones

rain root
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they look beautiful, and the brand i have good experience with

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at least in car audio systems

sharp bridge
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kali makes some great speakers

rain root
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bang and olufsen and bose are quite nice too although neither make tower speakers currently

steel escarp
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They are consoomer brands

rain root
rain root
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sorry if i am triggering any audiophiles here

rain root
lean grove
rain root
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jbl look hella nice

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i quite like the 580

lean grove
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580 got mega bass.

rain root
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that's beautiful

steel escarp
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How I listen

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Nah jk

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Needed to impress the guy who was gonna pick my adam t7v speakers up

lean grove
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Dudes got the 2007 hotel tv

steel escarp
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Bro this thing was a flagship for its time

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It's so old but looks surprisingly decent

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It even got the rgb lights on the back

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Ribbon tweeters were a mistake.

rain root
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have tv input

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ykwim?

steel escarp
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You plug your speakers into your subwoofer. And your subwoofer into the smsl d6

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You plug the speakers and sub into the outlet directly for power

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The smsl d6 plugs into your tv

rain root
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and connect the smsl d6 to the tv via optical?

steel escarp
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And gives you the remote for volume

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D6 has optical

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Yes

rain root
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that's cool very coool

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and you don't need any amplifers for this?

steel escarp
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Nope

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They are self powered

rain root
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oh, the jbl is self powered?

steel escarp
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The jbl is not self powered

rain root
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oh so i would need an amp for them?

steel escarp
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The kali audio lp6 v2 is

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Yes for the jbl you need an amp

rain root
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JBL are a harman off brand had no idea

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and harman kardon are another off brand of harman

steel escarp
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You know it's self powered when it has rca or xlr inputs

rain root
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ahhhhhhhh

steel escarp
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These are passive

lean grove
# rain root how would one connect them to a subwoofer too and power them all and

Typically a receiver handles that. It takes the input and then splits into the right speakers. You want a receiver that can do 2.1 or has some sort of "sub out" on the back.

Alternatively some subwoofers have speaker inputs on the back of them and can take a speaker's signal (which is a powerful signal from an amplifier) and can split that signal for itself. Basically it just takes the bass and uses that info.

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For simplicity I recommend getting the receiver.

rain root
rain root
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and just a walk through

steel escarp
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Don't active subs let you set the crossover

rain root
steel escarp
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Is the crossover handled by the receiver in a passive system

rain root
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anyone have any opinions on this? i find these far better looking for the room

lean grove
# rain root could you give me a list of things needed to have a full setup with the JBL you ...

Speaker cables. Then if you get something like the Cambridge receiver you'll need a subwoofer cable. I recommend getting a long one, like 6, 15, or even 25 feet because your subwoofer is gonna need to be placed in a far away spot from the receiver probably. You'll need to experiment where it sounds best in the room.

Then you'll need a cable to connect your TV to the Cambridge receiver.