audio-tech

[lean grove]

A lot of people seem to think so.

[trim pecan]

Alright if they are still on sale when I get my paycheck I’ll get those, Apple dongle good enough for them too?

I also need them for gaming idk if that makes a difference

[dry stratus]

personally I wouldn't use HD600 for anything other than slow music, lel

[trim pecan]

so get hd6xx?

[dry stratus]

just the entirety of 6x0

[trim pecan]

oh boy

[dry stratus]

personally don't think they are good when trying to deal with anything else

[trim pecan]

headphones so complicated I wish there was like a clear answer as to what to get

what do you recomened for fps's like tarkov

Honestly im going from cloud 2s so as long as the hd600s would be an upgrade to those I dont really care

the sound staging isnt worse then the cloud 2s right?

[dry stratus]

it is

[trim pecan]

grrrr

[dry stratus]

they are inside of your head

they have less than 0 soundstage

they have negative

[fading herald]

which sennheisers is linus wearing?

[trim pecan]

astro a50s were my original choices but everyones told me they are terrible

[dry stratus]

6xx/650 is linus iirc

would have to see the pic

but iirc it was 6xx

[swift venture]

Hd600

[fading herald]

the color scheme isnt on their website

[dry stratus]

speckles or not I would have to see

don't think he would've upgraded to the new same version

6x0 last decades

[trim pecan]

so a50s over h6xx for gaming?

[swift venture]

HD6xx are great headphones for music and gaming

Hard to beat

[trim pecan]

da other guy said they arent

im so lost

i guess its all subjective but

[haughty moon]

He-4x can be powered by the magni + right ?

[dry stratus]

they can be as long as they don't have to deal with too much noise is mostly what it is for me

[trim pecan]

too much outside noise?

[dry stratus]

ain't gonna be listening to dubstep, EDM, a lot of pop, etc

[swift venture]

Are you referring to the fact it's open back?

Or it's imaging?

[dry stratus]

too much noise in the music/game sound

[trim pecan]

im gonna have any music on when playing so thats not the issue

[dry stratus]

it does well with slower paced music

[swift venture]

I'm not sure if I'm following ur issue

[dry stratus]

but god, does it sound like crap trying to do stuff like heavy metal

[swift venture]

I have HD6xx myself and have no problem with those genres

[trim pecan]

im lost i need a map

[swift venture]

In fact, they sound fantastic

[trim pecan]

apple donglE?

[swift venture]

I use the motus m2

If u want a dongle I'm sure there are better dongles than apples

[dry stratus]

only thing is harder to get

¯_(ツ)_/¯

lots of amazon and aliexpress only, but Europe don't use amazon for example

it exists, just barely anyone does

[trim pecan]

yeah im just on a budget under 100$

[swift venture]

Total?

[trim pecan]

no just for the amp/dac

[swift venture]

Plenty of decent ones under a hundred

[trim pecan]

h6xx or hd600s are gonna get bought no matter what

are u able to link me any by chance ?

[lean grove]

Hd560s is very efficient and easy to power. So yes.

[dry stratus]

I would take 600 over 6xx at least if I had to choose between the two

[swift venture]

Depends if you want a warmer sound or not

6xx are more bass forward

[lean grove]

Also, there are not a lot of headphones that can't be used with a dongle or basic hardware

[swift venture]

600s are insanely neutral

[dry stratus]

600 is just better than 6xx overall

[trim pecan]

im just interested in whatever is best for fps games between the two

[swift venture]

Hd6xx will prob go on sale again on the 4th, they were just 170

Hard to beat

[lilac rain]

Anyone know how well I could run 120 ohm headphones on an iPhone 13?

[dry stratus]

you can't, it has no headphone jack

[trim pecan]

my paycheck comes the like 13th I think so whatevers cheaper im gonna get

apple dongle still slightly concerns me

[swift venture]

HD 6xx will be cheaper

[trim pecan]

yeah but if the hd600s are still under 300 im gonna get them prolly

[dry stratus]

depends on where you are buying from

[trim pecan]

either amazon or drop prolly

[lilac rain]

Dongle

[swift venture]

I think 600s are 297 usd on Amazon rn

[fading herald]

would a dragonfly red run it?

[dry stratus]

that has nothing to do with the phone anymore

[trim pecan]

i cant afford them rn

[dry stratus]

and also, ohms matters less than sensitivity anyway...

[swift venture]

Realistically, it's just personal preference of 600 vs 6xx. Want more bass? 6xx. That simple

[trim pecan]

the best headphones ive ever owend are cloud 2s so I dont think Im gonna care much tbh

[lilac rain]

Just a straight lighting to 3.5mm? It’s still just the phone powering it so how could it make a difference? I’m new to audio so this is a genuine question

[dry stratus]

dongle just needs to be able to deliver enough

tho would have to know the specific dongle and specific headphone still...

[lilac rain]

Just the apple dongle, sennheiser hd 560s

[dry stratus]

still neither have bass

[swift venture]

You're asking for bass in open backed headphones LOL

[trim pecan]

couldnt dolby atmos slightly help with the sound staging

and imaging

[dry stratus]

I would never, I hate bass

would take a ksc75 if it didn't break every 2 seconds

[dry stratus]

wouldn't trust software surround for it...
that's more fun than accuracy

[deep oasis]

how do you guys choose/know when an item is good quality and bang ffor your buck?

[dry stratus]

just try hundreds

[fading herald]

finding reviewers that have similar tastes in music?

[deep oasis]

finding good headphones

[dry stratus]

prefer just trying them out instead, easy enough to listen for major issues like bloated bass...

[deep oasis]

for gaming under $100

[trim pecan]

I used corsair voids for a while and enjoyed them but im sure theres a better option under 100

[dry stratus]

its mostly just cloud II under 100, lel

headphones already near impossible under 100 to begin with

IEMs mostly

[trim pecan]

maybe I save up for 3000$ IEMS

[deep oasis]

my ears can't handle iems

[dry stratus]

iems can't handle my ears instead

[deep oasis]

the suction of the buds hurt my eardrums

[trim pecan]

so my final decision is hd6xx or hd600s, with the apple dac and if they are too quiet get a cheap amp.

do u agree

[fading herald]

welcome to chasing the dragon

[dry stratus]

I've just been trying to get back to just convenience with good enough sound...
its hard trying to find something that doesn't make you throw up after all those years only ever touching the good stuff...

for summer headphones absolutely are not happening
but no tws fits my ears

otherwice I would've just gone like airpods pro 2 and QC45...
(QC45/QC35II best overall ANC headset, change my mind.. in terms of ANC + Sound quality + comfort that is, N700NC has better sound but its ANC is pretty poor)

both sound absolutely fine as long as you don't do anything latency sensitive

[fading herald]

the QC20 is really comfortable

[swift venture]

I've started to notice the ANC hiss a bit, but less on xm4s

I've used qc15s, QC25s, wfxm3s, xm4, by far xm4 is the best

[wanton marsh]

Hi guys for a budget under 200 USD, what would you recommend for someone just going into the audio hobby? Headphones? IEM?

[tepid torrent]

It depends on what you want

IEMs for portable, noise isolating use

Headphones for home listening

[dry stratus]

or headphone for all of the above because you like me can't find any in ear that even stays in your ears

[wanton marsh]

So headphones is still better overall? Any recommendations for entry level audiophile?

Is it still Sennheisser HD 600?

[dry stratus]

depends on closed or open...

would be looking at like K361 and HD560s for example

[tawdry gale]

ye

especially if u like vocal music

its open back though

[tawdry gale]

I use ksc75 when I don't have access to hd600

[wanton marsh]

Thanks!!

[molten lotus]

most open backs have more linear bass than closed backs though?

[molten lotus]

never was

6xx made hd600 mostly irrelevant

even then I like hd560s better

[dry stratus]

As long as you live in the US specifically

Because import + shipping makes it cost more

Which most don’t

[tawdry gale]

I prefer hd600 to hd6xx

[molten lotus]

i was quoting the price

hd600 is laughably expensive

[dry stratus]

6xx in europe is more than 600

Costs like 350 after import and shipping, lel

[dry stratus]

Not that either count as entry level anyway

250-350 and needing a dac/amp isn’t really entry

[molten lotus]

in europe there is hd560s

which can go for 110€

so even then hd6xx and hd600 are terrible value

[dry stratus]

155-160 mostly for 560s

[glad creek]

Just buy them used

I got three hd 600/650 for between 80 and 140 euros

[dry stratus]

Ew used

Only thing I would buy used is he6

No other option

[glad creek]

Can change the pads for cheap and it will still be way cheaper if it's a problem

[mental sparrow]

Suggestion for good headset with mic around or under $150? Don’t mind wired/wireless

[nimble cobalt]

Got a motu M4 for the price of a Motu M2 pog.

Now debating on upgrading my mic or headset first. what would be some good options? Mostly use mic with discord and recording some of my voice. Currently have a blue yeti but its a bit heavy for my mic arm. Was thinking about the SE V7 or something.

My current headset is the DT990 pro but earcups a bit small. Would the Hifiman Edition XS be a decent upgrade?

[lean grove]

Do you think your friends on discord will appreciate the new mic more than you'll appreciate the new headphones

[nimble cobalt]

I think they really wont care too much but it is like 1 third of the price

[lean grove]

So, something that's $150 that will make a minimal difference vs something that's $450 that will make a huge difference

Seems like an easy choice to me.

[south portal]

Hello, is Boya a good microphone manufacturer?

[neat quartz]

Linus says airpod pros 2 are his daily driver. Then I see a bunch of people saying there are “better” ones for cheaper. How is soundcore a3i? Can you tell it’s a cheap earbud?

[lean grove]

im hesitant to believe that bunch of people because the airpod pros 2 are genuinely quite good.

you might be able to find something better/cheaper if you look at wired options.

at the very least something cheaper but similarly good

[south portal]

Can anyone please look into my question?

[neat quartz]

I’m looking for wireless earbuds was checking if there any actual good alternatives than AirPods for cheaper

[glad creek]

@south portal I don't know this manufacturer, why do you want this brand and not a renown one ?

[lean grove]

yeah no. airpod pro 2 are the best

[south portal]

@glad creek Which renown one?

[lean grove]

@glad creek this cola dude has been in here for the past few weeks asking for help picking out a mic and we have helped him pick one out every time.

do not waste your time on him

[glad creek]

Well ok

[neat quartz]

Nothing compares? For a budget range? In terms of sound quality the 20 dollar apple EarPods are enough for me honestly. They are as good as AirPods 1/2 if I remember correctly

[glad creek]

Oh he already tagged me twice lmao

Btw white theme ? 😮

[south portal]

I wanted to know about microphone.

[glad creek]

Well just buy a behringer xm8500 you'll be happy enough
Check yt test for it to hear how it sounds then go for it

[lean grove]

https://crinacle.com/guide/tws/
this guide is a bit old but TWS earbuds havent improved much since 2022.

so see what tickles your fancy on there

[south portal]

@glad creek I am with condenser microphone, not dynamic microphone. I also wanted to know about some Chinese brand.

[glad creek]

Like you already have one ?

[south portal]

Yes.

[glad creek]

Then why do you care

[cold spindle]

if you aleady own one then you should know if it's good if people complain about it sounding bad then it's bad if not it's good if you want to test it use a recording software and try it out to hear yourself

[glad creek]

What

Oh yeah I understood after reading three times lmao

Use periods man x)

[south portal]

@cold spindle It captures the noise of ceiling fan above. Is it normal?

[cold spindle]

yeah i should use periods i forget them a lot....

[glad creek]

Yes
Lower the gain, put it closer to your mouth

[south portal]

@glad creek I have gain around 70%, is it normal?

[glad creek]

And use NVIDIA broadcast if it's not enough and you have a Nvidia gpu

[glad creek]

Right click the value and show it in dB

[south portal]

No, there is a gain button on microphone.

[glad creek]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/796310169414795264/853600728601591838/SONNOOBS1.png

I know it's in french

But it should be clear enough

[cold spindle]

if those things don't work work and you want to buy a new mic don't buy a condenser get a dynamic one. but yeah setup the windows settings to be good

[south portal]

@cold spindle Why dynamic microphone instead of condenser one?

[glad creek]

Good settings and good position of the mic is more than 50% of the final sound quality imo

Like way more than 50%

I can make my mic sound ultra shitty by putting a high gain value and have it far from me

[cold spindle]

dynamic mic's are made to not pick up the rest of a room vs condenser mics. most stage microphones are dynamic for that reason

[south portal]

@cold spindle Do you use dynamic microphone at home?

[cold spindle]

for some things yeah for other things a condenser it depends on what is needed tho i spends a while to set it up properly

[south portal]

@cold spindle What do you do with a dynamic microphone and condenser microphone at home?

[cold spindle]

dynamic is like if you play a guitar and sing. and don't want to pickup the guitar coming out of the speakers back into the mic making a loop. condensor is if you only need voice recorded tho needs a lot more setup in the room and settings to be used. as it picks up more of the noises of the room so you can't have a fan blowing at the person in front of the mic. tho you can have a fan pointed at you with a dynamic mic tho it might still pick it up tho way less

[mental sparrow]

Thoughts on Audeze Maxwell?

[swift venture]

apples usb-c to 3.5mm dongle should be gud for 80ohm 770 pro right

[lean grove]

latest hotness in gaming headsets and closed back headphones.

[lean grove]

yes. there are only a handful of headphones which cant be used with a simple dongle and they're all really expensive or really old.

[mental sparrow]

Mic seems bad from the video reviews I saw

[lean grove]

thats what happens when you add that much noise cancelling, unfortuantely

so just take the mic off and use a $50 usb mic from amazon and you still have a good closed back wireless headphone

[mental sparrow]

Yeah makes sense. I’m on the fence to spend more so might either get pc38x or HD 6xx and then separate mic

[lean grove]

wired is always gonna be more bang for your buck.

so if you can do wired, you should.

there's also more options to waste money on amps and dacs too

sky is the limit

[mental sparrow]

Haha true. Currently most of my “Audio budget” goes towards Sonos stuff for house anyway lol

[swift venture]

Yea I just plugged in my HD6xx into them, just not loud enough. I assume 80ohm headphones will be more than loud enough

[lean grove]

well, the ohms doesnt tell you much by itself

ohms will tell you what type of power a headphone needs. low ohms means high current, high ohms means high voltage.
and power is a factor of both current and voltage.

what you want to look at instead is the efficiency

https://youtu.be/PqlcJnoIcGo

[glad creek]

Got it two days ago, I've been an "audiophile" for years
It's not the most comfy, not the best sounding, I don't like closed headphones
But ? It's the best wireless gaming headset by far, and it's still a pretty good soon quality imo

Also the mic is sounding okay if you don't activate the ai noise cancellation thingy

I couldn't do wired, it's for my living room setup, such a bother
But it's honestly pretty good for what it is

However if you can play on a desktop I'd still recommend a standalone microphone with an arm mount and a dac/amp with good wired headphone

[mental sparrow]

Sounds good, thanks for your experience

[glad creek]

Yeah and as for the last part, when people said "no I want wireless" before I was like "erk well do what you want I don't care and can't help you"
Now it's more like "if you really want it you can go for the audeze Maxwell it's good for what it is "

[molten lotus]

Hello im looking for a good price-quality microphone, any recommendations? 80$>

[steel escarp]

Behringer C-1U + Behringer UM-2

[trim pecan]

Does anyone know if this is a good starter amp?

I plan to use hd6xx on them

[bright osprey]

How do we feel about the senn HD660S2?

for 500?

[molten lotus]

um2 outdated

m track solo is where its at now

[bright osprey]

@buoyant vale Too much?

What about the HD600 for 300?

[trim pecan]

Hd6xx

[bright osprey]

Okay okay

I have another one

Hd 560 for 150 or HD 6XX for 219?

[tepid torrent]

6XX

[bright osprey]

interesting

[trim pecan]

hd600s or hd6xx for fps gaming

[lean grove]

They're pretty similar. Flip a coin.

[bright osprey]

Someone said the HD 580

[trim pecan]

My coin said 600 cuz they are on amazon so I can return them if I dont like them cuz drop doesnt allow returns

[bright osprey]

[lean grove]

ive returned a bunch of stuff to drop

[bright osprey]

THEY DON'T???

Oh

[trim pecan]

Badseedtech said they dont

[bright osprey]

WHy you lie to me like that

[trim pecan]

maybe he lied to me

[lean grove]

you know badseed?

[trim pecan]

his video

[lean grove]

oh

well. i mean.

you can just say that they're damaged or something

and theyl take em back

[trim pecan]

yea true

badseed recomdended the FiiO K5 pro as a starter amp/dac

is he lying to me

[coral gulch]

mic reccs for 60gbp?

[lean grove]

im sure its fine. but it doesnt have much upgradability.

i would personally go for a magni / modi

or a dongle + magni

for maximum value

[trim pecan]

how much is the dac/amp combo

of the magni

im not really looking for upgradablity something just kinda cheapish to get me started will do

not feelin the apple dongle

[lean grove]

or, if you want maximum potential, get a qudelix 5k

not as powerful as the k5 but its gonna be powerful enough for the sennys and gives you a ton of flexability for EQ and features

[trim pecan]

alright ill look into it

thanks man

[unique wind]

$238 + tax

for magni 3+ and modi+

[trim pecan]

too much i poor

[unique wind]

get apple dongle and magni

[lean grove]

dejavu

[unique wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786694298728398878/1116107006269456515/IMG_0084.gif

[weak kraken]

need a recommendation on a pair of over-ear headphones to use at my local arcade

requirements:

• strong noise isolation--like, very strong
• compact, easy to wear around the neck, ideally with a carrying case of some kind
• 3.5mm headphone jack only

[lean grove]

strong isolation + compact over ear headphones is gonna be hard to find

why not iems?

[weak kraken]

have had earwax issues with in-ears in the past

[lean grove]

ah

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tests/isolation/noise-isolation-cancellation-passive-active

this is gonna be a list of best cancellation

not best sounding

[weak kraken]

aye

ideally i'd want both compactness and isolation but i guess isolation would be a priority--still would like something i can wear around my neck though

[mild quail]

Hi yall again

Q: do I get DT990 pro or 770 pro?

Same price

Music and tv, general usage

[lean grove]

why not dt880

[mild quail]

Because I could get the 770/990 for cheap

Around $100

[mental sparrow]

What is the best way to share multiple peripherals like HD6xx headphone, usb mic w/o dac/amp, keyboard, mice and webcam between my PC and laptop? i.e I should be able to just use everything with my laptop during work time and then move all these device connection to PC later on.

Something like good USB C hub or kvm or something?

[mild quail]

Actually $95 for 990 and $99 for 770

So which one

[silent badger]

My dads dog did this in 10 seconds it’s tough 💀

[dry stratus]

Neither

[mild quail]

Why

[fresh burrow]

I have a question: why is it that mics tend to stick with one polar pattern? or at best have two?

[thin crescent]

I need a pair of headphones for gaming and everyday use(when gymming walking about etc) so wireless is preferred. The budget is between 60-100 usd and will be bought from amazon

[swift venture]

buydig!

[dry stratus]

Well that’s impossible requirement…

Unless you are fine with insane latency in games

Or using a sweaty gaming headset in a gym, lol

And wireless at 60-100 is in ears

Not headphones

[glad creek]

I really don't know if bookshelves speakers are better than dipolar surround speakers for surround use in my use case

Pretty sure bookshelves are super bad for this situation

[dry stratus]

Don’t know about this situation

let it fall

[glad creek]

Lmao it was when I didn't have an internet connection (new house), 4G access point and if it wasn't on the edge of the window I had ten times less bandwidth

[rough schooner]

Guys what's the best music streaming platform you know?
Bang for the buck?

[weak kraken]

it depends a lot on what you value; i really love apple music for its seamless integration of your own local files, and how lossless quality isn't locked to a higher price tier

however if you're a windows user you're gonna be annoyed by how you'll need to use a now-rather-deprecated itunes to access it, and iirc lossless isn't even available on windows

...but it is on android

it's a bit of a mess regarding platform availability is my point

[rough schooner]

Thanks for the reply. I use Android. I will try Apple music then

[weak kraken]

give spotify a shot too if you haven't already--it has better music recommendation algorithms and more seamlessly works with a variety of different playback devices

[rough schooner]

I'm using free Spotify. Is the paid Spotify gonna be worth it? Have you tried it.

[weak kraken]

i've used it before; it's good

again, it's just that i value apple music's lossless streaming and local files integration more than spotify's better recommendation algorithms and playback functionality

[rough schooner]

Thanks again. I think I'll try Apple music and see where it goes.

[glad creek]

@rough schooner Spotify is good, it has good integration everywhere with for example Spotify connect, also it's not that expensive
The paid version will make the ads go away

I personally like tidal, but the tidal connect isn't as widely adopted yet, however sound quality is better.

Do mind that sound quality of the streaming service matters only if you have high end gear

[weak kraken]

as for my own problem up here, browsing rtings for my specific need was really hard due to the way they've laid things out for much more common use cases

but this might be it--compact on-ears with swivel cups so they can rest on my neck without reducing how much i can look down, ANC, and decent sound quality for being on-ears

only real downside is the lack of a carry case, which is pretty common for headphones like these tho
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/jbl-live-460nc-on-ear-noise-cancelling-bluetooth-headphones-black/15446306

[steel escarp]

Good to know

[weak kraken]

tho i'm remembering that somewhere i have a pair of wired on-ears already... i should look for those and see how they fare for now

[steel escarp]

Still no news on Spotify hifi

[steel escarp]

Spotify has local file integration

You can set up a folder on your pc. When you add them to a playlist set to download for offline usage your pc will start uploading the files to your phone

[weak kraken]

was always super finicky for me and didn't take anything other than mp3's which was a bit of a hassle

[steel escarp]

Yeah it's not good

[weak kraken]

yeah

[steel escarp]

Google music used to allow you to upload 10000 songs no strings attached

[weak kraken]

apple music is much more ironclad since it does so via the icloud music library, which basically comes included with your subscription

icloud music library supports 100,000

[steel escarp]

For free?

[weak kraken]

nah, you either need the icloud music library subscription separately, or apple music

still mad about the death of google play music btw

[livid spoke]

why would you give them to your dogs tho

[steel escarp]

hope he didnt eat any batteries or the dog gonna die

[silent badger]

I didn't she climbed a table and got them

[cerulean gale]

You know those headphone jacks on planes with the 2 little prongs? would they work on PC as a audio and microphone thingy?

[molten lotus]

yes with an adapter

or soldering

[cerulean gale]

On planes you know how if you want to listen to something you have to use the plane headphones cos the have the adapter at the bottom

Well what if I could use that little thing on my pc since my headphone only have one Jack

[dry stratus]

There are just adapters for it .-.

[spring gazelle]

Is there any alternative to the pc38x? Price has risen like 25€ in the last week (pc37x not considerable option)

[molten lotus]

save up bozo

[kindred plinth]

Any alternative to the wan er that has a mic

[quiet ether]

probability this is salvagable?

[kindred plinth]

@unique wind is the mic on the wan er good?

[unique wind]

idk

[molten lotus]

maybe

you can't really tell whether the voice coil is intact or not

[quiet ether]

ah

[molten lotus]

you will have to test

but even if you do

its just one speaker

[quiet ether]

yea

[molten lotus]

are you going to listen in mono bro 💀

[quiet ether]

lmao i was just curious

[molten lotus]

short answer is you can't really tell without opening up the driver or testing it

[quiet ether]

fair

[molten lotus]

but it looks salvageable

[quiet ether]

def an item to remember the next time i go there

wanted to take the driver itself but i dont got any tools with me and its an alan key

[molten lotus]

i really dont think you can do anything meaningful with a single driver

[lean grove]

you can take the magnet off and play with it

[molten lotus]

it is a big magnet so that would be fun

[quiet ether]

oooo

i love magnets

i have like 4 hdd magnets

[formal depot]

does anyone have experience with audiofrog GB60 setup? im trying to upgrade a model X to a full GB setup with JL amps and shit

[lean grove]

@vast quarry did you wind up getting those big edifiers?

[vast quarry]

oh yeah they are great

not used to directional audio since i used cheapo surround for a long time but sound quality is great

best part is when i use bass i hear most of it. with the previous ones there was always the problem of being more disturbing than i noticed. but with these its the opposite

i am confused how it doesnt go through the walls like my previous setup did

cant say for sure if it was worth the 250 since i literally have nothing to really compare it to at this size level, but looking at plain personal evaluation it was a pretty good deal

and they are much more mobile than i expected

thought theyd be a 2 man job, but they are really easy to carry

[lean grove]

yeah they probably dont have a super thick cabinet. you should play around with placement. move them more into your room, towards you, make them wider, narrower

there's gonna be a sweet spot where they sound more like a surround system

not totally surround, but it stops sounding like you have two speakers and more like you're in the recording

[vast quarry]

my main critique is the upgradeability due to being both built in and is using active speakers, and that the bass/treble knobs are at a very inconvenient spot & there's no way to change them via remote

[lean grove]

ah

[vast quarry]

not a dealbreaker since i can still easily lean over from my desktop setup, just something i have to actively stand up for and reach over. and sometimes get my phone light out to see the current setting

still, thats only IF i wanted to look for a bad thing. id rather have a compromise like this instead of paying a premium price for a minimum raise in comfort

[runic goblet]

Does someone already have the Sennheiser IE-200 ? cable is bad but the audio quality is rumoured to be excellent for 170€

[unique wind]

i don’t have it but i wouldn’t recommend it either

[molten lotus]

Hey anyone here know a good Amplifier/DAC for PC? Is the Objective and ODAC still the way to go? Looking for something good that has a 3.5 MM microphone input.

[bitter hollow]

you're not gonna find a 3.5mm mic in on most audio products

schiit hel, I guess?

[lean grove]

the objective and odac are pretty old. not bad, but not really competitive.

[molten lotus]

Would the schiit hel be way better?

[lean grove]

uhhhh, i wouldn't say way better

[bitter hollow]

schiil fulla and hel are the only two things I can think of that actually integrate a 3.5mm mic in

[lean grove]

creative labs has a bunch of stuff

but they're kinda meh

[molten lotus]

Wait a second does the objective DAC even have a 3.5mm input? Lol sorry am having trouble remembering

[lean grove]

no

there's the mayflower arc which does and its based off the odac

but its also overpriced

[molten lotus]

Oh right, thanks

Is the mayflower arc really based off of it? Is one superior over the other or not?

Reason why I am asking is because I know about the mayflower arc as well.

[bitter hollow]

What's it even for, anyways?
A headset?

[molten lotus]

Yeah lol but sorry I’m asking because I literally had the mayflower arc

Didn’t own the objective DAC and amp though

[bitter hollow]

Is there anything wrong with it?

[lean grove]

im not 100% sure, but they use the same chassis and mayflower sells an o2 and odac.

so im like, 70% sure

but also its like, $300

[molten lotus]

Well it was working fine before but I don’t really trust the company anymore I think. I sent mine in for repair and I think they did something to the DAC chip or something that has to do with the microphone. It doesn’t perform well anymore so I decided to just sell it. I think I will just go with the schiit stuff then unless the v2 mayflower arc is better to own.

[molten lotus]

I see, thanks for the information

Damn sucks there’s no mic input on the original o2 though.

[lean grove]

yeah 3.5mm headset mic input is pretty rare

most people opt for a dedicated mic

[molten lotus]

Okay, thanks for the information but do you by any chance know if the mayflower arc is at least superior to the original o2 DAC or is it literally based off it?

[lean grove]

i have no idea

[molten lotus]

I just want to make sure I didn’t get totally ripped off when it came to talking about DAC specs

[molten lotus]

Alright, thanks anyways, appreciate the help!

[molten lotus]

Yeah ooof

[lean grove]

yeah. i never understood why people would spend $300 on a specialized dac amp for a $100-$200 headset.

[molten lotus]

Actually I think the 3.5MM input doesn’t bother me that much. So if I were to scratch off the 3.5MM input what are my options other than ODAC that is great right now? Pretty sure I got some options at the least

[lean grove]

schiit has some good stuff.

if you're into clean memes, smsl and topping have some objectively good stuff

[molten lotus]

Thank you Nils is the “go to” right now probably the “Piety?” I sold my schiit stack sometime ago, kind of regret but if I could get something newer and better it wouldn’t be a hassle.

[lean grove]

i know a lot of people that like the piety,

i personally did not

[molten lotus]

I see.

[lean grove]

it had a weird glarey treble

so if you have bright headphones, stay away

[molten lotus]

LOL

Okay thanks for the info!

[lean grove]

i would rather have an asgard

in fact i did, and i loved it

paired with a modi that's a good setup

[molten lotus]

Is that above 1K USD? Or under?

[lean grove]

its under

[molten lotus]

Hmmm interesting

[lean grove]

asgard is like, $250 i think

[molten lotus]

Oh okay thanks

[weak kraken]

i have made my decision...

for $300 CAD i would've balked at what you get in this package

but it was on sale for $170 CAD, the same price as its lower-end little brother, the 460NC

i was impressed by the ANC quality in its store demo, especially given the emphasis on portability it has

and it comes with a big egg bag

[steady ether]

good purschase, I have a tune 760NC and its amazing

[copper owl]

Wireless headset? For what

[weak kraken]

on-the-go listening; plus it has an aux for when i wanna play arcade games

[tawdry gale]

It tuned better than the usual offerings like the sony apple etc

[tawdry gale]

Just get magni+, its endgame for most people

[copper owl]

Oh ok

[steady ether]

JBL Quantum 100

is this okay for gaming?

getting this cause my headset doesn't have a mic

[molten lotus]

No thanks

[tawdry gale]

oh u want something better jot 2 or asgard 3

[molten lotus]

Yeah that sounds better

XD

Maybe wait for Jotunheim 3

Idk

[tawdry gale]

prob next year or 2 years later

[molten lotus]

If not then probably the jot 2

[molten lotus]

Okie

[tawdry gale]

for jot 2 u need at least modius

since its balanced

[molten lotus]

Can I just get the true multibit DAC?

[tawdry gale]

thats not balanced

[tawdry gale]

if u don't want to hazzle with balanced, just get asgard 3

if u want balanced get jot 2

[molten lotus]

But can’t I just get it in the Jotunheim 2 DAC module as an upgrade?

Sorry I saw it earlier but wasn’t sure

[tawdry gale]

it will sound worse than having a seperate unit due to interference + if it fails u lose both the dac and the amp

[molten lotus]

Ohhh

I didn’t know, thanks for the info.

So I should not get this setup like this right?

[tawdry gale]

ye don't get that, get jot 2 with no module and at least a modius or other balanced dacs

or get asgard 3 with modi+ or modi multibit 2 or other( just not the balanced ones)

[molten lotus]

Sounds good, appreciate the help!

One more question is the lyr worth the extra $400 for tubes?

[tawdry gale]

no it doesn't sound like tubes

it sounds like a solid state amp

cheapest tube that sounds like a tube and actually sounds good is the bottlehead crack, but its diy

[molten lotus]

Lmfao okay thanks

Oh damn, I actually wanted the BottleheadCrack back then too, wonder if it’s still worth to get. I actually never tried tubes but I know people who have tried and think I know how it would sound theoretically speaking. Lel

[lean grove]

lyr is also stupid powerful

as in "that is too much power" stupid

[tawdry gale]

what headphones do u use

[molten lotus]

Sorry to clarify, I had the 6XX, I assume it’s equivalent to the 650’s(?)

[molten lotus]

I heard the bottle head crack isn’t good for the 6xx though

[tawdry gale]

its good for hd600 though

[molten lotus]

Is that true?

Oh okie

[tawdry gale]

first of all, why would spend on a source more expensive than ur headphone

[molten lotus]

Guess I could sell my 6XX for the 600s if I were to go for the BTHC

[tawdry gale]

I would rec u to get more expensive headphones before spending money on a more expensive source

it would make more of a difference to ur experience

[molten lotus]

Aren’t sources supposed to be more expensive? Or should they be equivalent if not cheaper?

[lean grove]

because 6xx scales

[tawdry gale]

ik

but buying more headphones first will offer a better experience

[lean grove]

assuming those headphones sound better

(big if)

[tawdry gale]

ye

[lean grove]

ive got a $700 amp for my 6xx

[tawdry gale]

like bori and philphone

[molten lotus]

Just checked out some tubes that cost over1K, yikes they are expensive, I don’t know why anyone would buy a more cheaper source than headphones

[tawdry gale]

Actually get some good headphones

[molten lotus]

Don’t worry plan on getting some better ones soon

[tawdry gale]

Hd6xx is good

[molten lotus]

Yeah so why would you get a cheaper source than the headphones it makes no sense. I understand maybe equivalent value but not cheaper

[lean grove]

headphones typically make the biggest difference. so, ideally, a going from a $100 headphones to a $1000 headphone will be a HUGE change.
meanwhile going from a $100 source to a $1000 source will be a decent, but not unrecongizably huge. a $100 headphone will still sound like a $100 headphone if its hooked up to a $100 source or a $1000 source.

[molten lotus]

Btw, enjoying your 6XX? I kinda barely use mine tbh Lmfao thinking about upgrading to HD 800S or something else.

[lean grove]

i went from hd800 to 6xx

[molten lotus]

Yeah okay

[lean grove]

6xx is better.

[molten lotus]

Lol really? Wtf

[lean grove]

800 is, neat, but the vocals sound really pulled away

[molten lotus]

No way seriously?

Oh you mean regular 800 not the S right?

[lean grove]

they're very close

same difference between 650 and 600

[tawdry gale]

800s is mainly only good for classical

[lean grove]

ehhhhhh

cellos hit harder on the 6xx

[molten lotus]

I like classical music so no worries

[lean grove]

again. the 800 is neat. but the fact that its incapable of any intimacy at all kinda sucks

[tawdry gale]

Like to replicate a concert hall

But just get speakers

[molten lotus]

You are talking about the regular 800 though right?

[lean grove]

yes

[molten lotus]

Damn I can’t believe you went from the 800 to 6XX though, that’s wild

I’d thought it be somewhat “better”

[lean grove]

it is better in a few ways.

[molten lotus]

Gotcha

[lean grove]

idk. i might be having a paradigm shift right now

previously i liked the really wide, really spacious sound. i used to have my speakers pulled way back so they're wider sounding

but now i got them real close in a near-field so i have this really tight imaging

its a more detailed, more precise stage, rather than a wider one

and the 6xx vs hd800 is kinda the same thing

[molten lotus]

Gotcha, btw do you by any chance know if the ones on drop.com are worth it for the 8XX series?

[lean grove]

i havent heard anyone without an affiliate link say a kind word about them

[tawdry gale]

u would have to eq them

[molten lotus]

Or should I just get the original?

[tawdry gale]

they sound very strange uneqed

[lean grove]

there are tons of used hd800 and hd800s on the market

[molten lotus]

Ah…. Okay

[lean grove]

you shouldnt have a hard time finding one

use hifishark.com

[tawdry gale]

what music do u listen to

[molten lotus]

Wow I didn’t even know about Hifi shark, that’s a cool name for the site too, appreciate the info!

[molten lotus]

Everything but country, but even some country

[tawdry gale]

everything in the hd8x0 series is incapable of intimacy

[molten lotus]

LMFaO

[tawdry gale]

they are basically the opposite of why the hd6x0 were made

but not to beyer extreme

[molten lotus]

I see, lol thanks for the info!

[weak rapids]

Oh shit

Everyone cheer

The goxlr is dead

All development is stopping and sooner or later lack of updates and fixes will turn it into a paperweight

[lean grove]

no idea why

they seemed to be doing pretty well

[tepid torrent]

Its called becoming based

Less width and diffusion but narrower and precise

[mild quail]

I’m back

Anyone got recommendations for an ok desktop amp around $80ish

2.1, also Bluetooth would be nice but not really required

Gotta power 80W-180W passive speakers and their sub

[tepid torrent]

Probably however much a schiit rekkr is

[glad creek]

There is also topping which does super clean stuff

[tawdry gale]

oh god no

[glad creek]

If you want Bluetooth then it's not anymore just an amp but a dac/amp

[glad creek]

What ?

[mild quail]

True. Got any ideas though? It would also have a 3.5mm or RCA input

[glad creek]

Yeah this is possible, but Bluetooth would make it to expensive because adding a dac + bt require a lot more engineering

So either you get a less good product or a more expensive one with bt

So it's to power speakers right ? Do you know there sensitivity?

[molten lotus]

I am aware of that, thanks, might get their flagship(s) but will have to see.

[haughty girder]

iems be like

[mild quail]

Yeah Bluetooth is just a nice-to-have but I can go without.

Yes speakers, not sure of sensitivity

They’re KLH 9362

[dry stratus]

8xx bad... already makes no sense with used HD800 being so commonly found for cheap (see them for 550-700 regularly)

[glad creek]

Do you guys also think that the gamelinked video has horrible audio ?

[fresh basalt]

pro vs con of... rather than having my cheapo desktop speakers plugged 1. directly into the hdaudio 3.5mm on the back of the pc... or... 2. plugged into the 3.5mm on the back of my monitor, which its self has a DP connection to my AMD 6750xt, which can drive audio its self... is there any difference for a set of £40 desktop speakers from creative?

[glad creek]

Honestly don't think it matters with 40 pounds speakers

So whatever is the more handy for you

[fresh basalt]

i thought as much 🙂

[unique wind]

very similar tuning but better build and accessories than zero

[full cape]

can somebody help? im kinda conflicted here. i need a new portable bluetooth speaker, and i want one from JBL. idc if they are overpriced. i like them to be rather light weight, but have some wham to it. i use the speaker on a daily basis too. ive been looking at the Boombox 3 and the Partybox 110. which should i take? the 310 is too heavy and a pain in the butt to transport without car, the 110 and boombox 3 are easier. i looked at the Encore, but i dont like the sound of it. lil bit more bass needed for my preference. also i throw a party every few weeks, so it being loud is a must. idc about battery life too much, since i got a portable powerbank with 230v output

[tawdry gale]

from seeing the prices, partybox 110 seems like the better deal cuz its larger

[molten lotus]

is this what a center channel does to a mf

[unique wind]

im still in the wide and spacious club for speakers

fill the room with sound

[dry stratus]

never

[lean grove]

Idk, man. I've chased all the soundstage memes and they've all been lacking. This is the first time in a long while I've been impressed by a pair of headphones.

[unique wind]

nils chad 600 user

[tepid torrent]

Klaus could never

[glad creek]

Everyone should be a chad 600 user

[granite summit]

<3

[blazing flower]

I have an issue with my speakers, my amplifier is rated for 6-16ohms, and these are both 4ohm speakers, one is a 2 way (top left) and one is an old 12" car sub (bottom) to reach the rated impedance of my amp I should run these speakers in series to make 8 ohms however that causes the tweeter on my 2 way to just not work, however if wired in parallel at 2 ohma they work but I am concerned about my amplifier. Would anyone know about why this happens?

[lean grove]

Your speakers are too high up

[lean grove]

Your amps power rating of 6-16 ohms is a suggestion. You can usually safely run a 4 ohm speaker as long as you don't turn it to max volume.

[blazing flower]

It's 2 4 ohm speakers

[lean grove]

And the reason why they stop working if you wire them together is because the tweeter has a filter which blocks out all bass, and the woofer has a filter which blocks out all treble. What happens when you add the filters which block out all treble and bass together?

[blazing flower]

The woofer doesn't have a filter on it

Ik the 2 way does though

[lean grove]

Who built this speaker

[blazing flower]

Me and my dad

[lean grove]

It technically does.

The voice coil of the subwoofer is so huge that it acts like a low pass filter.

A bad one

But still

You might also be messing with the ground and something's shorting

[blazing flower]

But ik one-off my subs makes a lot of treble through it but still the tweeter is silent

[lean grove]

But still. The impedance rating on your amplifier is there so you don't accidentally draw too much current with a low impedance speaker.

But current is dependent on power. So if you don't draw too much power, then you won't draw too much current

So just for safety never take it past half volume. And if something is about to break you will definitely hear it.

Or your amp will have an auto shutoff if it's not a bottom of the barrel cheap amp

[blazing flower]

It doesn't auto shut off if it shorts ye

Does

[lean grove]

Then I wouldn't worry too much about it. If it's approaching the point where it's drawing too much current it'll sound like shit.

Like something's flapping around and broken.

[blazing flower]

Actually I have never had any distortion from it

Or shutting off

[lean grove]

Not just distortion, I'm talking about clipping

[blazing flower]

Unless I litterally short the positive and negative

Sony MHC-RG330 is the thing I'm using as my amplifier

[lean grove]

Crazy

[spring gazelle]

Is there any alternative to the pc38x? Price has risen like 25€ in the last week (pc37x not considerable option)

[fossil zinc]

I love mine

Just got it $300 Canadian

[raven swan]

Any recommendations for bluetooth neck band in ear headphones with good noise cancellation?

Or, do you guys know of accessories that can sort of connect to Bluetooth earbuds? For instance if I were to buy the xm4s but wanted the security of neckband?

[tepid torrent]

What

Why would you buy it for 300

This is a 200 dollar value at most

[swift venture]

damn why the hd 6xx back at 219

ffs

[steel escarp]

still a scam when its not 200

[swift venture]

how so

[rare cliff]

Just got a new pc and the mic quality is a lot worse than on my previous device (gaming laptop). Any recommendations?

[unique wind]

had to put 8kg of weight in an empty dresser drawer because my sub kept shaking it onto the floor

[lean grove]

that's haptic feedback

[unique wind]

my bed headboard vibrates and kicks my head

it makes my whole bed have a little vibration to it when i’m under the covers

https://youtu.be/CafqZEh0Hs4?t=1078

literally me right now

mmm my legs are vibrating under the covers

[lean grove]

i saw that

hsu research is not really in my periphery as far as sub manufacturers go

only person i know that talks about this is zeos

[unique wind]

same that video was the first time i’d seen the name before

[lean grove]

he reviewed these a while back

https://hsuresearch.com/collections/speakers/products/ccb-8-speaker

[unique wind]

i love 8” bookshelves

[tepid torrent]

Because some people are like that

They gotta hate

Or they cant exist

[swift venture]

tbh im just curious!

[glacial flume]

thinking about getting one of these to drive my HD650's but also as I am probably going to get a pair of studio monitors and it does have balance left and right channels
https://www.schiit.com/products/magnius

[dry stratus]

Petition to rename z reviews to fbi lookin for me reviews

[glad creek]

I got two schiit products over 8 years and was disappointed both time, ESPECIALLY for my schiit magni 3+

Which has super heavy channel imbalance, audible rattling when changing volume and dead gain switch so i'm stuck on low gain

Just because they use dirt cheap potentiometer and don't know how to solder

But that's my opinion, i'm probably gonaa get hated for saying that lmao

I won't buy anything from them anymore

Oh and yeah the support doesn't want to help me, i'm not asking for anything else than to PAY for the broken parts but they don't want to bother

They don't even want to give me part number or help me in any ways

So one day i'll probably rage throw the magni 3+ amp and buy a topping one

Because my toppings never flawed me

(it's not my first dead or somewhat dead audio gear, i had an objective 2 amp that died on me too years ago for example...)

Buuuuuut
I guess if you don't have any QC issue what they do nowadays is mostly cool especially if you like the slick look

[digital lintel]

i am getting the elgato wabe dx but can i use a xlr to usb cable to directly plug it into my pc?

[glad creek]

an xlr to usb cable is not just an xlr to usb cable so it's not a good idea to spend that much on a mic and do this

[digital lintel]

What audio interface do you recommend. If you can, I want somthing which is very budget friendly and easy to use.

[glad creek]

A behringer uphoria umc22 or smth like that is more than enough
Still I would take a cheaper microphone and buy a better microphone arm, which I guess you didn't account in the budget

[digital lintel]

and what is a good budget boom arm if you can

since i think the boom arm is a little expensive too

[glad creek]

Yeah it's expensive but it's honestly better to get one than going from a 60usd mic to a 120 one

Like you'll have a better experience overall and arguably better sound since the position/distance to the mouth is essential to good sound quality because otherwise you'll have to crank up the gain waay too much which destroys the sound for a mulitude of reasons

[tawdry gale]

Magni+ is good

[glad creek]

Yeah it's good, I just hope it's has better QC than what it was ...

[violet socket]

I got a new schitt stack earlier this year and haven't noticed any qc issues or audio issues but anecdotal evidence/ymmv/etc.

[digital lintel]

Thank you so much

Is there a good budget boom arm that you recommend

Since I am very new to this

[glad creek]

Sadly it's been a while since I have looked into boom arm, like yeaaars, mine has 10 years
It's the most known one but on the expensive side, rode psa-1. Back in the days it was either this or crappy ones or super expensive ones

Nowadays I'm pretty sure there are cheaper things that are good or maybe even better, but I didn't look them up

[bitter hollow]

Had to buy a psa-1 a year ago when the cheaper tonor arm I had wouldn't hold up the weight of a new mic

[digital lintel]

K thank you

[swift venture]

Buydig is offering me a $30 discount on the Dt770 pro 80ohm I bought for 110 including tax to not return them... But I just don't like how they sound lmao

Would have to at least double that discount

[dull rover]

Thoughts on HD350BT?

[glad creek]

Isn't there a law where they are forced to accept your return where you are ?

[lean grove]

you're right that they use a cheap potentiometer, but so does just about every other $100 amplifier. but your experience with schiit is pretty rare. ive had half a dozens schiit products and they've all worked as advertised.

[swift venture]

They're accepting it, they just offered the discount, which I replied no, how about $70 off lol

[slate vine]

Got a broken pair of beyerdynamic dt 990 pro for 35€ and was able to fix them for free by just resoldering the left side. I am really happy right now

[dry stratus]

I mean, they do suck

[steel escarp]

when you don't own enough headphones so you buy 40 silent disco headphones

would make for okay wall decoration

[slate vine]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-on-wheels-cullen-bohannon-no-matter-the-cost-no-cost-justified-gif-22876955

[wraith rock]

Hi, I just ordered the Fifine K688, should I cancel before they package it and get the cheaper AM8?

[lean grove]

Is going through the hassle of cancelling and returning a package really worth $30

[wraith rock]

its $20 total considering shipment costs and stuff cuz its the AM8 would be from another store.

[wraith rock]

and because of that and because of the build quality being a little better on the k688 I think I'll stick to the k688 🙂

Lol the only reason I got the k688 quickly was that it was the last one from the store I got it from and sooo yeah. I just pulled the trigger but its ok I hope.

there were 4 pieces left yesterday then 2 earlier today then only 1 like a couple hours ago so I just pulled the trigger before really watching much reviews on the AM8😂

[blazing flower]

how bad is it to run a 60 watt rms speaker 180 watt peak with a 100 watt amplifier

[blazing flower]

and what happens if i add another speaker (In parallel) of the same impedance

[dull rover]

Just picked up the Sony WH-Ch720s for a cheap set of headphones for my desktop

They seem pretty decent so far

[lean grove]

@blazing flower its not bad at all so long as you dont put it more power than the speaker can handle and if you put another speaker in parallel then the impedance the amplifier sees will drop dramatically and it will be unhappy

[blazing flower]

i mean if i have an amp that could handle the low impedance will it affect how much power that speaker is receiving

[lean grove]

no.

[slow magnet]

https://onkyousa.com/receivers/av-receivers/tx-nr7100

Is this receiver worth getting?

[molten lotus]

what for

[atomic ridge]

Anyone got any suggestions for stereo speakers under $500 and a dac & amp to pair with them, I haven't really set as strict as a budget for the dac & amp, but preferably not more than the speakers.

In other words I wanna future proof the dac & amp

[bright osprey]

Hifiman Sundara or Sennheiser HD 6XX

[molten lotus]

hd560s

i own sundaras i dislike them

i dont own 6xx i dislike it

[bright osprey]

Heard more people like the 6XX over the 560s

[molten lotus]

6xx has the attention because its a cheaper hd650

had hd650s been 150 and hd560s been 300$ on release things would have been really different

order both

use them

return whichever you dislike

[bright osprey]

560s you can get for 180 rn

[molten lotus]

in united states i presume

[bright osprey]

Yup

[molten lotus]

its around 150€ and drops to 110€ in europe

you have solid return laws

order both, return what you dislike

easy

[bright osprey]

Understood

[lean grove]

6xx good.

[bright osprey]

6XX Pog

[muted mural]

apparently the hyper cloud 3s have a more neutral sound than the hyper cloud 2s
tbh im considering getting the hyper cloud 3s to test them out as
my main gaming headphones atm are
the hyper cloud 2s there not bad for music either, not perfect but not bad

[bright osprey]

Dropping the copy pasta in another server is wild 😭

[bright osprey]

Ever tried the PC38x from Senn?

[unique wind]

both are great

[bright osprey]

[unique wind]

personal comfort and if you want to use eq would probably be the most important factors

because sundara will handle eq a lot better

[bright osprey]

Interesting

[unique wind]

mainly in the bass region because the driver has a lot less distortion

[bright osprey]

What comfort gripes did you have with sennheiser's offering as well

[unique wind]

i’ve never tried any senny

i own sundara and love it but i think most people find 6xx more comfortable

[bright osprey]

Ahh I see I see

[molten lotus]

comfort is based on your physiology, don't get advice regarding comfort from others

[bright osprey]

True you aren't wrong about that

[molten lotus]

of course

i have never been wrong ever

[bright osprey]

[molten lotus]

ask anyone

[bright osprey]

@carmine finch Hello random person

Has Klaus ever been wrong

[tepid torrent]

LOOOOOOOOL

Sure buddy

[molten lotus]

you are literally a paid operative subject to satan himself

try to make it less obvious

you will not usurp the peace

[unique wind]

klaus you are disturbing the peace

[molten lotus]

your objective is to infiltrate and subvert

i will not fall to your clutches

[unique wind]

take your medication klaus

[molten lotus]

not even hiding the fact you are trying to poison me

[tepid torrent]

Omg klaus found out I am actually a sharur alt

Abort mission abort mission!!!!!!!

[molten lotus]

i am in your copper wires

[tepid torrent]

[slow magnet]

To watch movies in the home theater

[molten lotus]

looks very unnecessary to me

with tons of random labels and features thrown onto it

buy it if you'd like but modern receivers like this are generally poor price/performance, I wouldn't pull the trigger on this

not unless you can make use of every feature a normal home theater setup would not need but rather a dolby atmos one

which is very expensive to implement

[raven swan]

Are the liberty 2 pro worth the extra 100 ish dollars?

https://www.amazon.ca/Soundcore-Bluetooth-Earphones-Personalized-Cancelling/dp/B0837VB9TF/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3NJ0K80THBV8S&keywords=soundcore+liberty+2&qid=1688529773&sprefix=soundcore+liberty%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Soundcore-Cancelling-Technology-Personalized/dp/B08G4K8CY8/ref=sr_1_3?crid=30NS0SG9PEQWQ&keywords=Soundcore+Liberty+Air+2+Pro&qid=1688528633&s=electronics&sprefix=soundcore+liberty+air+2+pro%2Celectronics%2C147&sr=1-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.320d95fa-54fe-43a9-b26a-8c3843032e68

(I know the first one is renewed)

[opaque ingot]

how do i get a cinema experience at with in terms of audio?

like base and sound quality

(on pc)

[glad creek]

You buy expensive shit like 5.1 or even 7.2.4 ...
So 5 speakers, one subwoofer, one ht amplifier, some room correction, some room treatment...

Then you get ruined and start doing shady business to pay for your audio stuff

Then the cinema become your real life because now you are the head of a gang in order to pay for all this shit

[karmic geode]

Anyone here want to make fun of my speaker placement?

[lean grove]

No.

[karmic geode]

Maybe a bit big and too close 😅

(that's a 27" monitor)

[haughty girder]

Studio 530?

that desk seems tiny actually wth

[haughty girder]

how much money are you willing to spend

[karmic geode]

all that could fit in the space I have, fancy hand built plant shelves on the right

[haughty girder]

it's good enough tbh

[karmic geode]

Studio 530s and cheap 10" sealed sub driven by a Topping MX3

[haughty girder]

I just can't imagine that sub is comfortable for legroom

ugh topping

its ok

[karmic geode]

Yeah

I was desperate for a Dac/amp combo at the time

And haven't bothered researching and upgrading yet

[molten lotus]

stands?

left speaker could go on a stand while the right one remains in place

would open up space and make things sound better

[karmic geode]

Very true, Maybe a wall mount so it doesn't cover the vent

[molten lotus]

wall mounts aren't a good idea since you want to distance the speakers as far away from the wall generally

and if you use metal wall mounts some weird resonance bs can happen

[karmic geode]

better idea of the space

[molten lotus]

yea i mean opening up to the left is the best course of action

maybe some mineral wool behind the speaker to dampen the resonances?

[karmic geode]

Yeah the room in general definitely needs something to help with resonance/reflections

[molten lotus]

ngl tho cozy place

what is that keyboard

[karmic geode]

It's a Corsair K68, probably on its way out

[molten lotus]

im not a keyboard nerd so i wont judge

[karmic geode]

It gets the job done but I can tell it sucks lol

it has some twang to it

[molten lotus]

true

[karmic geode]

Do you/anyone else here, have some recommendations for an Amp & Dac that would work well with the confined space?

The Topping fills the room surprisingly well, but these speakers definitely deserve better

[lean grove]

you want an smsl vmv a1

[molten lotus]

I am not confident enough to recommend speaker gear, I don't know the market well

I just know of placements

and treatment

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/711913638193004556/1061468753608589423/bundt_cake_marble.gif

[molten lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/266086067218808832/855562313025454101/20210619_003832.gif

[lean grove]

he does

i checked

[molten lotus]

thats why i posted it i know you know

do you have the spinning nugget

i need it

but with the minecraft spawner

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732493337654853642/1121947129070506104/nugget_spawner_fixed.gif

i found it what a miracle

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516133173889990688/918327506942185502/giphy_-_2020-08-11T154253.630.gif

its spinning counter clockwise

kind of ruining the vibe

[karmic geode]

time to start saving for a couple years I guess

I need to get a second job to pay for audio specifically

[molten lotus]

honestly

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/fries-rotating-fries-high-quality-fries-gif-24835699

no transparent background

[lean grove]

otherwise something from burson. maybe a tiny schiit stack? modi, magni, rekkr?

big L klaus

im gonna show you my secret weapon

[molten lotus]

i will not recover from this

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/432178579690881035/936743938969194527/image0-10.gif

[karmic geode]

I'll start taking a look at those

[molten lotus]

it is not photorealistic

i am unimpressed

[lean grove]

oh im sorry do your photorealistic gifs jiggle?

i think not

https://64.media.tumblr.com/46b660fe4596fbe07ac0a61c34245a26/582f059981db44f5-26/s250x400/338142c31964f59cc878c242d750acb5a38a2d5f.gif

[molten lotus]

your jiggling gifs will never outdo my photorealistic gifs

your jiggling cranberry is soiling the name of spinning food imagery

what would ashcord think if they heard of this

[lean grove]

klaus if you screenshot this and post it in ashcord i swear to god

[molten lotus]

you are so over nils

[bright osprey]

[opaque ingot]

around 300 cad (used will also work)

[opaque ingot]

what sub is that?

[karmic geode]

Pioneer PSW 10 Elite I believe

Cheapo sealed 10"

[opaque ingot]

does it have good bass?

[karmic geode]

It fills in the low end okay, but I wouldn't call it "good"

Anything actually demanding makes it fart, but in a small room and not going below 40hz or so it's okay-ish

[opaque ingot]

how muchdid it cost?

[karmic geode]

Would not recommend, but again, really cheap

I got it at $90 and used it to replace the sub with my HTiB

Since then I've upgraded that 5.1 system to all Jamo speakers and a different, cheapo 12" ported sub

Cozy 5.1 HT

(used to have the PC hooked up to it until I got a desk)

[opaque ingot]

edifier 1700 or Klipsch R-15PM
?

im thinking to get one of those 2 and add a 10/12 inch sub

[kindred plinth]

does dongle matter if i need to extend them?

[molten lotus]

best wireless headphones for gaming with microphone for 100$?

[dry stratus]

all bad tho

[severe hare]

cloud 2

wired

wireless

rip

[dry stratus]

they all over 100

Only 1 wired under 100, lel

[molten lotus]

hi,
my windows' volum mixer is auto changing volums of my applications,
is there anyway to stop it?

[tender frost]

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-clapping-applause-applaud-cheerleader-gif-12591824

[dull rover]

Does anyone have the WH-1000XM5s?

[neat kiln]

i just opened up this channel and this is the first thing that greeted me

[neat kiln]

put your monitors/speakers up on some supports/stands, it makes an enormous difference

[civic beacon]

I have the older generation XM3's - they don't get used much these days, but I can't get rid of them for their price, battery life, and lightweightness.

[dull rover]

Yeah that’s awesome, I was just wondering because I got the WH-CH720Ns and it seems like they have the same driver as the XM5s, was wondering what others are doing for an EQ

[civic beacon]

Ah gotcha. I don't really pay much attention to EQing stuff these days, unless on my desktop where I have an EQ through Voicemeeter Banana. I used to love tuning my wired headphones back in the day, but now that phones don't have a headphone jack I just find using my phone's settings and the manufacturer's apps too fiddly for my tastes, so EQ is left off or set to flat.

[dull rover]

Yeah that’s fair, right now I’m just using a V curve in the Sony app rn and they seem to do pretty well, I’m no audiophile at all, but even though these are bigger than my AirPods Pro, I’ll probably carry these around more than them, I’m pleased for $150 CAD

[molten lotus]

they have the same drivers?

[dull rover]

From what I could find, there is not too much out there about the CH720s as they are pretty new, but they’re both 30mm dynamic drivers and the sound curve looks pretty similar to me.

[molten lotus]

that's is not something you should go off of for comparison

if you'd like for the sake of argument I can pull up ten different headphones with marginally different frequency responses with vastly different performances and drivers

aka everything hifiman makes

[dull rover]

You’re the only one trying to start an arguement, like I said, im not an audiophile, and from what I could see they are the same driver or a very similar one

[molten lotus]

I am stating it isn't a good medium of comparison no one is trying to argue here

similar frequency response isn't a signifier of same drivers

[dull rover]

The soundstage would be different on the XM5s of course, but from what I see they are very similar

[molten lotus]

which frequency graphs are you comparing?

[dull rover]

The ANC isn’t too bad either

[dull rover]

I was just comparing them off the sound guys iirc?

Actually RTINGS

[lean grove]

Rtings graphs show they're tuned pretty similarly but the ch720 looks like it dips out more in the treble and subbass

But the Sony tuning isn't really anything special

Massive bass shelf up to 200hz and then fucked treble.

[glad creek]

Which is so classic

I can't listen to those stock without an eq

Tooooo muffled

[lean grove]

That's what the consumers want

[dull rover]

Yeah I have been working with my EQ for a brighter sound

But these for $150 CAD compared to $400 for the XM5s, im pretty happy with them

[molten lotus]

is it really

its difficult to believe people would listen to oem 2018 and xm5 then say yeah i like xm5

[glad creek]

I don't think so
That's what the consumer hears and can pinpoint the difference with a 30s test time *

[molten lotus]

sort of this

[lean grove]

Yeah I'm just joking. Idk what consumers want but Sony keeps doing it and they keep selling headphones

Across the xm3, 4 and 5 you can see they actually make it worse

[molten lotus]

we do a bit of marketing

[lean grove]

And I know a couple people who have xm5's and they wish it had more bass

[glad creek]

The consumers want on average Harman curve if we believe the studies

[molten lotus]

ngl tho despite the sonic lacking, anc on those is insane

[dull rover]

I just wanted a pair of cans that are Bluetooth and have wired, these were the best I could find local

[molten lotus]

i had never heard anything like that anc wise

[lean grove]

I just tell people to shut the hell up

That's the most active anc

[glad creek]

Oh yeah for what they are I think there isn't a lot of good choices anyway so eh

[lean grove]

Until audeze firmwares in some anc into the maxwells

[dull rover]

At least for my budget yeah

[molten lotus]

guns were made to streamline the process

[glad creek]

I mean good comfort, build quality, good anc, wireless, good battery is already hard to come by so ...

[molten lotus]

n700nc m2

my love

[dull rover]

For sure, these CH720Ns get 35hrs with ANC, 50hrs without

[blazing flower]

I'm in the market to buy a 2 channel amplifier to power my subs and I'm looking at amplifier specs and I see loads of amps that are being promoted as 400 - 500 Watts but in the descriptions they say things like
Effective power: 40W + 40W
Maximum power: 400W + 400W
And I'm wondering if this is something I should look out for and avoid or not

[lean grove]

Avoid anything that's surprisingly cheap.

[blazing flower]

Yeah

[glad creek]

And anything that says 400W per channel without costing 1K

[blazing flower]

What is a good price range for 200 + 200 watts

[glad creek]

Oh and "watts" are heavily dependant on the number of ohms of your speakers

[blazing flower]

I've checked impedances

[glad creek]

So 200W on 4 ohms could be 130 on 8 ohms for example (arbitrary number)

[blazing flower]

200 watt @ 4ohm

2 channels

Is what I'm looking for

[glad creek]

And what's the sensitivity of your subs ?

[glad creek]

I'd say that for 500€ you can get good things like: https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/power-amplifier/audiophonics-mpa-s250nc-xlr-power-amplifier-class-d-stereo-ncore-nc252mp-2x250w-4-ohm-p-14185.html

[blazing flower]

I actually can't find any other information other than what's on the back of the subs, I can't seem to find them online. They are my dads old car subs. One of them is a magnat bulldog sub 300 supreme series and the other is an infinity kappa component series kcss 120 br

[glad creek]

Btw I'm curious of your setup

You run a stereo setup with one sub per channel and some sort of dsp somewhere to divide the stereo sound in 4 channels (2 for speakers, 2 for subs)?

[glad creek]

Oh and don't you think that it would be interesting to just buy a good recent sub ?

[glad creek]

Lmao wtf

[blazing flower]

Saving money where money can be saved

We made out own speaker setup using old as car speakers

[glad creek]

Seeing this thing I don't think you should get a good high end amp haha

[blazing flower]

It's still in the making

My dad just slapped wood against my wall and spray painted it

[glad creek]

Will you use room correction/EQ?

[blazing flower]

Yes

[glad creek]

Will you make analog low/high pass filters or will you use dsp ?

(just curious at this point)

Still I think that what I showed above is too good for a random diy build, it would be a waste imo

[blazing flower]

I have been using software but I am gonna eventually sort out an actual low pass filter and my tweeters already have filters on them

[glad creek]

You need another high pass filter for the normal woofers so that they don't have subwoofer frequencies

[molten lotus]

i dont think this is good advice

because car amps generally say 400w at like 0.1 ohms and other stupid stuff

which is not impossible

[steel escarp]

considering getting a hd800s so bad for those sweet enveloping vocals

[lean grove]

I wouldn't call them enveloping

[steel escarp]

when I played adele the vocals wrapped completely around my head on my violectric v222

it was a first

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I acidentally misclicked in EQ APO and now I have to redo the sine sweep like 10 times again to figuire out where the peak was