#audio-tech
white gate
lean grove
What month
white gate
You bet I'm coming up in May
lean grove
What day
lean grove
Shit.
tepid torrent
How important would you say room treatment is if my room is kinda shit and I have cheap speakers like a LP6v2 or something
lean grove
I'm 13 days older than you.
tepid torrent
Cause it seems like a big investment
lean grove
I'm the old man
white gate
How important would you say room treatment is if my room is kinda shit and I hav...
Room treament makes a pretty massive improvement, but as to how much you should spend/what you should do, it depends on your room and what acoustic issues you'd need to prioritise
glad creek
@tepid torrent just buy a umik 1 and do room correction first imo
It's not expensive
And it will help for the room treatment if you still do it
glad creek
Sad
dry stratus
Longer I spend on discord the fewer people there are older than me
u are already 50
lean grove
u are already 50
Thank God I can't wait to retire
steel escarp
<@705213006329544704> just buy a umik 1 and do room correction first imo
don't just measure your speakers via a umik 1, compensate for the peaks via REW and throw it into an EQ and call it a day.
taking care of any reflections and room modes is really important
and placement
stable rune
Finally found the headphones I'm eventually going to get:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B3F8V4JG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1
molten lotus
surely no one here told you it was a good choice š
stable rune
surely no one here told you it was a good choice š
What may you mean by that?
molten lotus
not a very good headphone
ripe quiver
Do anyone know an text to speech website with synthesizers of famous persons?
deep seal
hey anyone here has a good pair of noisecanceling headphones for around 100 euro?
*overear
ripe quiver
hey anyone here has a good pair of noisecanceling headphones for around 100 euro...
Soundcore Q20
lean grove
ripe quiver
Although I have the + edition that have different EQ to choose from
bitter hollow
Are there any reasonably priced gaming headsets on the market that aren't awful?
I was going to get my sister cloud 2's but I guess the new revision sucks now, and Maxwell's are maybe a bit too much
lean grove
Are there any reasonably priced gaming headsets on the market that aren't awful?...
You can get her some koss.
š¦
bitter hollow
If only koss could design products that didn't look like they came bundled with a walkman
spring gazelle
At 100ā¬, does a seperate mic and headphones or a headset make more sense?
lean grove
If only koss could design products that didn't look like they came bundled with ...
That's the price you pay for good audio quality on a budget.
Design team costs cash.
unique wind
Are there any reasonably priced gaming headsets on the market that aren't awful?...
sennheiser pc38x
lean grove
At 100ā¬, does a seperate mic and headphones or a headset make more sense?
Kinda not really. A separate mic will work for any headphones you choose to get in the future, but it's gonna be around 30ā¬-40ā¬ depending on what you get. So that leaves you with ā¬60-ā¬70 which doesn't get you much in terms of good headphones. It gets you koss or creative aurvana lives.
Whereas if you get a pc37x then you'll be getting more for your money imo.
unique wind
At 100ā¬, does a seperate mic and headphones or a headset make more sense?
at 100 i would get some 50 dollar iems and a 50 dollar microphone
otherwise yeah pc37x like nils said
lean grove
$50 iems are 10x better than $50 headphones.
unique wind
these specifically
or these if you dont want harman bass
if crinacle red isnt available in your country then "qkz x hbb khan" probably is, theyre also good
the new green Wan'er are pretty
bitter hollow
sennheiser pc38x
Yeah they're 130 on drop.com rn
Idk if that's just the new price or a sale
steel escarp
If only IEMs had stage
spring gazelle
the new green Wan'er are pretty
Ayooo
unique wind
yeah iems literally have zero stage lmao
their performance is 99% tuning
i mean they are in your ear after all
spring gazelle
the new green Wan'er are pretty
How much?
unique wind
$26
steel escarp
Cheap IEMs are based
lean grove
@unique wind do you know any iems with multi flange tips that aren't etymotic.
Something more normal shape and lower insertion
spring gazelle
They decent?
unique wind
<@609826649197772821> do you know any iems with multi flange tips that aren't et...
i dont
unique wind
They decent?
wan'er are quite good
spring gazelle
the new green Wan'er are pretty
U got more like that? I also liked the black nekocakes btw
unique wind
U got more like that? I also liked the black nekocakes btw
nothing better exists at $25 to my knowledge
if you move up to $50 the QKZ X HBB Khan and Truthear X Crinacle Zero (Red) are better
spring gazelle
Im crying so hard rn that wan'er dont have black earpiece with dark cable
unique wind
the eartip?
they come with a selection of tips you arent limited to the ones shown
or do you mean the actual iem itself
if so there's also black or white as color options
spring gazelle
I mean the whole think, the thing that looks like i can eat it
spring gazelle
if so there's also black or white as color options
Thats what i mean, the black ones come with a white cableee :(
unique wind
ah okay
spring gazelle
the new green Wan'er are pretty
How are they, compared to nekocake (black)?
And how sturdy
unique wind
@lean grove could you try buying flange tips on their own and using them on your own iems
spring gazelle
I tend to fall asleep with headphones lmaoo
unique wind
How are they, compared to nekocake (black)?
And how sturdy
wan'er are better than nekocake but theyre very different products
lean grove
<@104014747476705280> could you try buying flange tips on their own and using th...
That's what I was thinking. I got no idea how tips change fr tho.
unique wind
i think it's mostly bass that is affected
spring gazelle
at 100 i would get some 50 dollar iems and a 50 dollar microphone
They like 180ā¬ ;_;
unique wind
what is 180?
unique wind
i think it's mostly bass that is affected
now that im actually trying to find testing on this i dont see much
spring gazelle
what is 180?
Pc37x
unique wind
do not pay 180 for those
spring gazelle
Even the pc38x is cheaper
lean grove
Yeah that's too much
spring gazelle
For reference the pc38x are 140
unique wind
if you want a headset and can stretch to 140 the pc38x are very good
like even if there was no microphone the headphone portion itself is good
spring gazelle
if you want a headset and can stretch to 140 the pc38x are very good
I could, but dont wanna tbh bc i gotta get loads of stuff xD
How big is the difference to, say another 100ā¬ headset even? And at that price a mic with headphones would make more sense, no?
unique wind
I could, but dont wanna tbh bc i gotta get loads of stuff xD
How big is the dif...
the pc38x is a lot better than any $100 headphone
the quality jump from $100-150 is huge
if you have other stuff you need to buy first you could get the tangzu wan'er to hold you over for a little while
theyre quite good in general but especially for their price
spring gazelle
the pc38x is a lot better than any $100 headphone
I wanna mention something, comfort is same priority as sound to me.
I ordered hxperx cloud 2s to replace my broken sgh3 headset and lemme just say, i fuqin hate that hyperx bc its so uncomfortable
Hard ear cushions, theyre too small, sound only marginally better
unique wind
Better than stuff like DT990?
better than 990
spring gazelle
I wanna mention something, comfort is same priority as sound to me.
I ordered h...
Got them today and plannin to send them back
unique wind
dt990 has annoying treble, pc38x has no issues with its tuning
spring gazelle
dt990 has annoying treble, pc38x has no issues with its tuning
Aight, ima sleep a night over it and just return the other headset first
unique wind
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spring gazelle
dt990 has annoying treble, pc38x has no issues with its tuning
Ive never really heard "great" sound, so idk if its really even worth it to me for the money
molten lotus
Are there any reasonably priced gaming headsets on the market that aren't awful?...
pc38x
or 37x
bitter hollow
Yeah, I got the 38x
unique wind
its extremely reasonable
spring gazelle
its extremely reasonable
Nuh uh
unique wind
you get excellent tuning with decent build quality & comfort along with a microphone that doesnt sound awful for $130 and it's wired so it can last you an extremely long time if you dont abuse it
spring gazelle
you get excellent tuning with decent build quality & comfort along with a microp...
I saw a vid
Its outta plastic maen
Why
lean grove
you dont want metal headphones
spring gazelle
you dont want metal headphones
U don know me, i wan tungsten
lean grove
okay then you're gonna be paying a lot more than $100
spring gazelle
Like 100,01?
lean grove
man why are you asking for advice if you're gonna be a turd
unique wind
you have to go pretty high up in price to get real metal build quality
like $1000 territory
spring gazelle
Wtf
lean grove
like $1000 territory
none of my $1000 headphones are made out of metal
spring gazelle
Which
unique wind
something like an audeze lcd-2c or hifiman arya even the hifiman arya doesnt feel spectacular
unique wind
none of my $1000 headphones are made out of metal
what headphones do you own
lean grove
hd800, akg k1000, i had some old kilobuck stax, and some near-kilobuck hifimans
the only part that should be metal, and that is metal in all of those, is the headband
and maybe the grille
metal weighs too much, unless you get magnesium, in which case it costs too much
unique wind
i almost bought a magnesium mouse in the past
spring gazelle
hd800, akg k1000, i had some old kilobuck stax, and some near-kilobuck hifimans
HD800s look cool actually lol
lean grove
well its plastic and costs more than $100 so you wouldnt like it
unique wind
i almost bought a magnesium mouse in the past
spring gazelle
well its plastic and costs more than $100 so you wouldnt like it
Btw, are there alternatives to the pc38x?
unique wind
Btw, are there alternatives to the pc38x?
no
lean grove
pc37x
unique wind
pc37x is closed back instead of open and has worse tuning
lean grove
560s + modmic
spring gazelle
560s + modmic
Oo
unique wind
thats gonna be like $230
spring gazelle
thats gonna be like $230
Just saw, dayum
unique wind
there is nothing that competes with the pc38x in its price range man
if there was we'd tell you
lean grove
people gotta make more good headphones
spring gazelle
if there was we'd tell you
I thought myb there was sth slightly worse that may be more comfortable or good looking
unique wind
this is peak style what do you mean
spring gazelle
this is peak style what do you mean
Ima violate them poor things if i buy em
Ill wear em and accidently fall asleep
spring gazelle
use in ears for that
With cable? Also RIP
bitter hollow
this is peak style what do you mean
At least they make an all black version now
unique wind
you can get the nekocakes you want and brought up earlier
along with tangzu wan'er AND a microphone kit for around 100
itll be slightly over but close
unique wind
At least they make an all black version now
they do? i havent seen it
spring gazelle
you can get the nekocakes you want and brought up earlier
I ong have em, i was serious abt the toilet thing
1 fell in the toilet dawg
molten lotus
I saw a vid
Its outta plastic maen
almost all headphones are?
spring gazelle
I can only wear the left ones now 
unique wind
why didnt u just grab it out
bitter hollow
lean grove
do you have any idea
saiko was trolling
molten lotus
headphones should be made out of skin
spring gazelle
why didnt u just grab it out
Bro it fell in the canal thingy
molten lotus
animal skin is inappropriate
spring gazelle
If the only thing ima notice with better headphones is better clarity and more balanced sound idk bro
unique wind
bring on the human skin headband wraps
spring gazelle
If the only thing ima notice with better headphones is better clarity and more b...
Sounds stupid when i read it
Bur i mean it
lean grove
pearls before swine
unique wind
If the only thing ima notice with better headphones is better clarity and more b...
alright man there is nothing else we can offer you
spring gazelle
alright man there is nothing else we can offer you
What abt a fighter jet
molten lotus
i don't understand what you want
unique wind
he wants something that doesnt exist
a more stylish and supremely comfortable pc38x for $100
spring gazelle
I do gotta say the pc38x look less comfortable than 40ā¬ SGH3
spring gazelle
he wants a $100 hd800
A banana, last offer
lean grove
sharkoon is a really reputable brand. i heard that their booth at the munich audio show was packed
unique wind
any of these with a usb microphone kit:
tangzu wan'er
qkz x hbb khan
truthear x crinacle zero red
or:
sennheiser pc37x and pc38x
lean grove
unique wind
that's literally it man that's all there is
unique wind
you can get a Hifiman He400se or AKG K361 with a microphone kit but both of those are worse than pc38x
lean grove
those look like cryo treated silver cables on the headband
molten lotus
he400se isn't worse
unique wind
it is
molten lotus
you just don't like it
unique wind
its worse
molten lotus
fit is up to your head
yeah tuning wise id like more bass
but it isn't a worse headphone
unique wind
it is
spring gazelle
The headband is fine, but lemme tell you those earpieces are soooooft and so big for my goofy ears to fit in
molten lotus
nah
I like it better than the 400se
you have no basis for calling it a worse headphone
lean grove
burr brown sliding ladder dac in the built in 7.1 surround sound, 150db of sinad, puts out 16kW per channel with less than 0.000000000000001% distortion
unique wind
i do
molten lotus
yeah
unique wind
it has worse tuning and build quality and fit
unique wind
what are you talking about
molten lotus
based on your head
unique wind
pc38x and he400se are both linear with rolloff
spring gazelle
burr brown sliding ladder dac in the built in 7.1 surround sound, 150db of sinad...
Ok thats debatable
molten lotus
he400se has more falloff
unique wind
i dont like he400se because it feels like shit, the earpads are itchy, it's loose as fuck on your head, and it has a crater in the upper midrange that ruins vocal placement and presence
lean grove
it has professional drivers guys
molten lotus
you have different heads than other people
something that fits you wont necessarily will fit others
spring gazelle
it has *professional* drivers guys
Leave my kid alone
molten lotus
and vice versa
lean grove
i have never impelled music tracks but it sounds like a great time
molten lotus
he400se is a planar
bitter hollow
it has *professional* drivers guys
That's too high end for me, can I get amateur drivers instead?
unique wind
the only metric that he400se beats pc38x in is the fact that it accepts eq a lot better
molten lotus
it has a far tighter impulse response than pc38x
unique wind
everything else is worse
lean grove
That's too high end for me, can I get amateur drivers instead?
no.
molten lotus
it has better layering
spring gazelle
Pc38x good for gaming?
molten lotus
which correlates with it
unique wind
im gonna layer my nuts on ur fuckin forehead
molten lotus
it has a better soundstage
unique wind
it has worse soundstage stock
molten lotus
it has shitty imaging
unique wind
because the midrange dip ruins imaging
molten lotus
it has worse soundstage stock
untrue
spring gazelle
Pc38x good for gaming?
Btw, any chance they get cheaper than 140 or nah
unique wind
yes it does
lean grove
Btw, any chance they get cheaper than 140 or nah
check camelcamelcamel
molten lotus
its called a fucking midrange dip for fucks sake michael
spring gazelle
because the midrange dip ruins imaging
Got absolutely no idea what you talkin bout, but facts bro
molten lotus
not highend
unique wind
the midrange dip affects vocal presence, placement, and clarity
bitter hollow
Btw, any chance they get cheaper than 140 or nah
They're literally 130 on drops website rn
molten lotus
7
bitter hollow
Like, if you Google pc38x
The first result is $130
unique wind
sundara has a 2db upper midrange scoop
he400se and the egg hifimans are a lot steeper
spring gazelle
Like, if you Google pc38x
The first result is $130
Not germany, cheapest seems 140
bitter hollow
Not germany, cheapest seems 140
Oh, drop sucks in Europe iirc
molten lotus
and no hifiman dip
unique wind
the bass doesnt really matter
unique wind
the difference at 20-40hz with those is almost impossible to hear or feel klaus
the upper midrange dip is extremely obvious
unique wind
you actually have consumer level hearing if you can take or leave a 7db upper midrange dip
unique wind
correct because it's sub 40hz
molten lotus
put on some daft punk or something with a constant bass tone
unique wind
i can hear 1-2db differences in response in midrange and i can hear polarity but i cant hear that 2-3db <40hz rolloff
it's so minor
there's no way id be able to confidently say it's there or not in a blind test
molten lotus
I can
easy way to test this
send 2 mp3 files
one with a 3db higher bass note
one without that
unique wind
if someone boosted 20-40hz by 2db and sent it to you there's absolutely no chance youd discern it with repeatable accuracy
molten lotus
depends on the song
unique wind
whereas a 5db+ dip in the ear gain region is extremely obvious
lean grove
most songs dont have much content that low
unique wind
i listen to primarily extremely bass heavy music and still do not bother filling in the roll off
molten lotus
yeah
unique wind
it's genuinely BARELY audible
molten lotus
it is very audible
unique wind
i literally listen to rap and hyperpop it's all bass
lean grove
but almost every song has content in the midrange
unique wind
when i do sundara harman eq i do not bother flattening the roll because im losing like 3db of volume for something i cant even hear
molten lotus
mid and high bass perhaps
lower sub bass, definitely not if you aren't hearing it
20-30hz feels more like pressure than sound anyways
you are either listening for the wrong thing or have a bad selection of tracks to test this
molten lotus
you can't hear the difference between a magni 3+ powered vs utws5 powered sundara
spring gazelle
i just know more than you
Whoooa
unique wind
if nils is agreeing with me on this im probably right klaus
nils rarely agrees with me
there's BARELY anything below 40hz in almost any song
molten lotus
nils said bass region is generally empty at 20hz in most songs
unique wind
itd be extremely challenging to hear 2db in a blind test
unique wind
@lean grove did you know that if i play a 20hz test tone i can hear a change
molten lotus
tone generator
if you want
again you either don't know how 20hz sounds like
or you don't have a good selection of tracks
or you are deaf
im fine with any interpretation
unique wind
spring gazelle
Run in circles
molten lotus
michael just can't perceive a part of the human audiotory spectrum
unique wind
i can hear 20-19000 klaus
and im sensitive to 2db swings in response in the midrange and treble
molten lotus
try oxbow b by lorn
might be the best track to compare 20hz eq in
unique wind
20-40hz 2db is just barely noticeable
molten lotus
ive ever heard
unique wind
with headphones
molten lotus
michael you are embarassing yourself
unique wind
keep praising flatplate measurements and clarity killing midrange dips
molten lotus
ive legit never noticed a this steep of a difference with sub 40hz eq as i have with oxbow b
weird as fuck mixing how did you find this nils
unique wind
i sent it to him
molten lotus
that makes it more funnier
lean grove
weird as fuck mixing how did you find this nils
https://youtu.be/mauV2NdCs60
this video introduced me to lorn a while back
and all his music is just so interesting and dark
does a lot of interesting stuff with bass.
molten lotus
its very trippy mixing
unique wind
oxbow is fuckin thumpin on these khans
i kinda wanna hook up sundaras with harman eq to try it out
molten lotus
we are a horde
lean grove
another funny one from lorn is tattered flag
unique wind
found em we're good
lean grove
that was the first song i listened to on my pair of refurb'd he-560v1's and i thought they were busted
lean grove
save that for SG
unique wind
what ethnicity's skin makes the best sounding headphone drivers
this seems like a post id see in apple house sound
molten lotus
90% of notifications is a person tagging you "dudes look at this dumbass he says planars can have good bass"
and then they discuss how that person is wrong among themselves for 30 minutes
lean grove
thats just you klaus
unique wind
i havent seen that at all
molten lotus
only for listener
lean grove
is listener in there
molten lotus
i havent seen that at all
i left after getting @everyone pinged like 3 times a day for random arguments people were getting in there
unique wind
since ive joined all theyve talked about are transitioned people and speakers
molten lotus
is listener in there
i don't know
unique wind
since sharur is speaker pilled now
molten lotus
i just like making fun of him
because he said susvara and sundara sound the same
because both planars
unique wind
the last thing sharur spoke about was room reflections and treatment with @steel escarp
it was basically this wojak meme i made
grey being the crying wojak
unique wind
ur placement is really brutal though to be fair
lean grove
get smaller speakers
molten lotus
but more the reason for better treatment
molten lotus
I don't have 300$ to spend on speakers
money is a weird thing
its sometimes there
molten lotus
sometimes i acquire a 350$ headphone
with money i don't remember having
its very interesting
unique wind
i have the opposite problem
i should have more money than i do and i cant figure out where it went
molten lotus
lmao
lean grove
mine goes directly to the local taco bell
molten lotus
we don't have taco bell here
unique wind
youre not missing anything
lean grove
lately its been the nacho fries craving box
molten lotus
we have excellent food tbh
unique wind
lately its been the nacho fries craving box
the cravings boxes ordered through the mobile app are the way to go for sure
lean grove
ive got friends that work there and because its a small town, they're single digit review numbers away from getting the regional bonus for good survey responses
which is like, a few thousand extra a month.
for the manager at least. who is also a friend
lean grove
pretty much. he says that the special box surveys never get discarded
so i use those to pump their numbers
steel escarp
it was basically this wojak meme i made
Damn, you made a wojak meme and said was the crying wojak. I guess my life is destroyed now.
unique wind
Damn, you made a wojak meme and said was the crying wojak. I guess my life is de...
yeah idk how youre gonna recover
lean grove
you should see the memes of him in other discords
steel escarp
There are memes of me?
lean grove
no
steel escarp
I do appear in sharur videos
lean grove
who
steel escarp
Me
molten lotus
who
lean grove
ecksdee
tepid torrent
I do appear in sharur videos
Sharur is a conspiracy created by the government bruh
He is a social contruct
lean grove
Industry plant
unique wind
hes a topping employee
unique wind
He takes it too far tho
how so
unique wind
well yeah i dont think hes trying to debate people
hes saying what he believes to be irrefutable fact
and he uses intentionally vulgar/rude language to mess with people
thats how it seems to me anyway im not him obviously
tepid torrent
how so
Takes it so far he will say gear is bad because it doesnt measure to his preferences, claims audio is completely objective, says people suck, arent trustworthy because their views dont line up with his
There is a limit to how objectivist you can be before you become somewhat of a dick
unique wind
well you have to consider this
if you fully believed that audio source gear has zero affect on sound after a certain point of cleanliness
would you not feel that anyone who says otherwise and recommends that people buy products based on what you believe are lies is disingenuous or not trustworthy
especially when they have affiliate links for profit
if youre 1000% objectivist you would feel as though all of those people are directly scamming their audience for money or just fluffing up a product because of a sponsorship
as for calling everything except the absolute best products shit yeah i agree it's too far
not everyone can buy $450 iems or $2000/pair monitors and calling everything else shit doesnt help
warm saffron
Takes it so far he will say gear is bad because it doesnt measure to his prefere...
woah, its helipopper, from ief
wait nvm, idk
unique wind
omg is that helipopper from ief
tepid torrent
woah, its helipopper, from ief
Who?
Im not even in ief
Or dankpods for that matter
warm saffron
my bad lol
tepid torrent
Think you have me confused for someone else bud
lean grove
This is what you needed to dunk on Klaus earlier
People are less sensitive to changes in bass and treble than they are to changes in mids
dry stratus
nah, I am more likely to throw up from boosted bass
lean grove
You're a unique specimen
haughty girder
I think when you refer to boosted, you mean thumping 80db+ kinda crap
Dare I say you may prefer more bass with a proper bass tuck
and doesn't bleed into the mids
unique wind
This is what you needed to dunk on Klaus earlier
ā¹ļø
haughty girder
I get nauseous from loud subs
like where the bass is literally shaking you
outside of that I definitely prefer slightly more bass
dry stratus
but nah he gets sickness from speaker bass
Yesterday I got nauseous because of the vibrations coming from an electric toothbrush at the dentist...
warm saffron
https://a.co/d/a7imUYs
anyone know if this could fix the annoying rubbing sound with my akg k371's?
dry stratus
https://a.co/d/a7imUYs
anyone know if this could fix the annoying rubbing sound ...
just stop rubbing
warm saffron
*just stop rubbing*
i like to look from monitor 1 to 2 sometimes
dry stratus
looks like something you would put on the left and right in a cinema setup š¤
or at least anything where you sit at more than 1 distance away from the display then put them so each side faces a group of people
glad creek
It's to replace those
I thought it would be a way better choice than bookshelves speakers for surround
south portal
Hello, what makes a good microphone? When can we call something a good microphone?
What is to see before buying usb condenser microphone?
fresh basalt
not strictly audio tech, but, its audio-enough tech... looking at getting my 8yo an electronic drum set for his birthday. hes taking drum lessons at school and privately, but doesnt have a kit at home... do we think something like this is good enough for a 8yo https://www.gear4music.com/Drums-and-Percussion/VISIONDRUM-Electronic-Drum-Kit-with-Stool-and-Headphones/4V8M
steel escarp
Fiio confirmed they will make a small batch of white headphones.
glad creek
Hello, what makes a good microphone? When can we call something a good microphon...
Most USB condenser mics are ok for normal use, you should just hear them tested on YT. Do keep in mind that placement is quintessential for those mics and is arguably more important than the mic itself. It should be super close to the mouth, like 5cm
south portal
@glad creek You mean, mouth should be close to usb condenser microphone?
south portal
@glad creek Which USB condenser microphone do you use?
glad creek
Mine is XLR, and it's a T.Bone sc400 that i own since almost 10 years. There exists an USB version too, it's the sc440
south portal
@glad creek Does it need phantom power or something as it is XLR?
glad creek
Yes it does
Phantom power and amplifier, people sometimes only buy phantom power without an amplifier and it's no good
And analog to digital converter of course but your PC can handle it
I have something fairly cheap for that, it's like 40ā¬? Behringer something something, it does amplifier, phantom power and ADC
No need for more just to speak on discord, it's already overkill š¤£
south portal
@glad creek Isn't USB interface easy to manage than XLR?
Can't you buy USB microphone?
glad creek
I prefer USB interface because I have physical volume control and more power. Of course there are USB mic with both of that, but as I said I have this mic since 2013-2014 something like that so I'm not going to change anytime soon
molten lotus
<@196748032815923200> Isn't USB interface easy to manage than XLR?
usb isn't reliable
tends to fail a lot
and usb is as good as consumer audio companies produce them
with xlr there is no end to possibilities
tawdry shadow
Guys what headphones do I get for 100usd that is wireless but can be wired and donāt give something very ugly Iām not a audiophile itās fine if itās not the best
Iām thinking arctic nova 4
dry stratus
even wired headphones are hard for that price, there are only a few .-.
tawdry shadow
even wired headphones are hard for that price, there are only a few .-.
Ok what wired headphones are there?
exotic yacht
buds pro resealed or buds 2
hot halo
Any recommendations for wireless earbuds?
unique wind
Yesterday I got nauseous because of the vibrations coming from an electric tooth...
woah
unique wind
me personally ive never had my mouth drilled before
opaque ingot
are kanto yu2 good for gaming and movies?
arctic shoal
is the ksc75 defent for gwming&how are they if i wear glasses
opaque ingot
Any recommendations for wireless earbuds?
i like the samsung buds pro 2 that im using. but i have heard jabra elite are also noteworthy
lean grove
is the ksc75 defent for gwming&how are they if i wear glasses
ksc75 are some of the best budget headphones out there.
i use mine with lab goggles, and they do get a bit cramped behind the ears after a couple hours
but that probably depends on your ear size and shape
lean grove
are kanto yu2 good for gaming and movies?
i would personally go with some edifiers rather than kanto.
opaque ingot
im getting yu2 for 150 cad
arctic shoal
at this point ill@just buy them n rrturn if they suck
opaque ingot
im not sure if its worth or not
arctic shoal
i have bulky ass razer krakens n im sick of them
lean grove
im not sure if its worth or not
the thing that stands out to me about the kantos is the size. they look like they have a good treble response, but the bass is a bit... goofy.
edifiers are a bit bigger and are gonna be able to handle bass a bit more normally, but the tweeter is a bit worse.
for 150 cad, there's not a lot of great options. you could do worse than kanto.
lean grove
200 cad used or new
like i said, i would go with edifier. the 1700's if theyre in your budget
opaque ingot
How are logi g560?
lean grove
Logitech might be the worst speaker manufacturers
last plover
does anyone here use foobar2000 ?? im trying to install a theme or it but that requires something called the spidermonkey plugin which is only possible on the 32 bit architecture. what am i supposed to do ??
im on windows 11
lean grove
Do the 1700s have good bass?
good compared to the kantos? yes. good compared to a dedicated subwoofer? probably not.
molten lotus
does anyone here use foobar2000 ?? im trying to install a theme or it but that r...
use the 32 bit version
last plover
use the 32 bit version
but im on windows 11 right ??
molten lotus
okay?
last plover
will 32 bit work on 64 bit OS ??
molten lotus
you quite literally have a directory that exclusively stores 32 bit programs
it's fine
also though subjective
musicbee >>>>
opaque ingot
good compared to the kantos? yes. good compared to a dedicated subwoofer? probab...
How much is a subwoofer's price?
lean grove
at least $100.
molten lotus
500$ is linear 25hz zone isn't it
lean grove
uhhhh
not always
the ones that let you do DSP yes
the ones that expect you to have some sort of external DSP, no
molten lotus
pretty insane how difficult it is to get linear speaker bass without dsp even at half a thousand
lean grove
pretty insane how difficult it is to get linear speaker bass without dsp even at...
well thats because designing a naturally linear subwoofer is very hard.
and dsp is too easy not to use
molten lotus
im aware
molten lotus
and dsp is too easy not to use
that's news to me
wouldn't room eq tier bs cut it for must subs in testing rooms at least
most subs that aren't trash
lean grove
probably idk
molten lotus
lmao
lean grove
its just that dsp amps are getting more and more common and more powerful
dsp plate amps are not as common
but if you're a real audio company idk why you cant just build one
molten lotus
im generally impressed by the self dsp'ing soundbars
they aren't worth a dime compared to stereo but the tech is impressive
lean grove
the problem with those soundbars is that they cant DSP dispersion. so EQ might sound great on-axis in one spot, but as soon as you move any at all it'll be different
and you can't really dsp away really sharp peaks
subwoofers are mostly omnidirectional and their relative peaks are actually pretty wide
glad creek
something from svs or rythmik
If you live in Europe both of those brands really aren't interesting, their price is super high, and European stuff cost way less than in America so the whole balance shifts
Like my sub I believe costs 2k in the us and 1k here, and a svs that would be 1k in the us is 2k here
So what are the differences between Xbox audeze Maxwell and ps5? Apparently there is a Dolby licence for the Xbox one ?
nova wagon
So what are the differences between Xbox audeze Maxwell and ps5? Apparently ther...
yep
glad creek
So useless for PC
nova wagon
cause the ps5 uses tempest 3d instead of dolby atmos for its surround sound simulation
i mean its there for marketing sake tbh, the headset itself is pretty good at imaging you might not need it
nova wagon
So I should go with the PS version I guess
i mean whichever version is cheaper
nova wagon
then go for it š
ocean ermine
So glad I didn't buy just found seiren V2 Pro for 35$ 
That's got to be a good deal right?
twin goblet
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=edifier+r1280t&qid=1687691704&sprefix=%2Caps%2C253&sr=8-3
i just got these speakers delivered and started using them, they were worked fine a small time but then I noticed that I'm only getting audio output from the active speaker and nothing on the passive one, I tried replugging all the wired and shit and now I've concluded that the passive one works when I give it a little nudge but goes back silent shortly after, they were refurbished and not new, what might be the issue here? should I return them?
molten lotus
So glad I didn't buy just found seiren V2 Pro for 35$ <:KEKW:670048864052445204>
seiren mini is better than both of those
ocean ermine
seiren mini is better than both of those
....isn't the mini objectively worse but cheaper?
ocean ermine
And I could get a V2 Pro (ended up with V2x due to better availaility for a bit less) for same price
ocean ermine
its straight up better than serien pro
the mini doesn't even have buttons, and in sound comparisons sounds worse
molten lotus
it doesn't have buttons but sounds worse?
what
buttons i understand but seiren pro doesn't sound anywhere as good in comparison
has a plastic mesh with poor build and isolation
ocean ermine
it doesn't have buttons but sounds worse?
- The Seiren mini doesn't have mute button or volume knob, other ones do
- Seiren mini seems to sound worse than Seiren V2 Pro and V2 X
ocean ermine
has a plastic mesh with poor build and isolation
That... sounds like a downside
molten lotus
that is the seiren pro yes
ocean ermine
I am talking about Seiren V2 Pro, it's not even plastic mate š¤Ø
ocean ermine
Well, so is mini's?
molten lotus
Well, so is mini's?
false
also this dude is a dumbass in the video
mics are like 30 centimeters away from his mouth
what a benchmark
still you can differentiate the sounds and mics
ocean ermine
No the mini really sounds slightly worse or at best/worst equal to me in all instances I seen I don't know what you're on about š¤Ø
Also Mini seems to have an un-detachable cable/micro usb
which is an instant hard no from me
molten lotus
No the mini really sounds slightly worse or at best/worst equal to me in all ins...
pro and pro x sound muffled in comparison
and has a notably higher mids that make it more muffled
do whatever you want man
the sound test is there
the results are there
at this point there is nothing further i can say
tepid torrent
pro and pro x sound muffled in comparison
They are probably confusing the muffled-ness for warmth and richness
Pretty common actually
molten lotus
wacky headphones likely
tepid torrent
Probably
glad creek
Finding audeze Maxwell in France is hard
Not a lot of stock and amazon doesn't have it
slim mason
They are probably confusing the muffled-ness for warmth and richness
thats why 99% of gaming headphones are super V shaped
steel escarp
holy fucking shit
I cannot wear the hifiman edition xs when I sit up straight with good posture
slim mason
why?
steel escarp
the position the headband pressures on my head causes me to get a headache
and I cannot get the earcups to stay stable
let me be clear, this is no issue when I sit leaned back as I usually do
fossil zinc
okay i tried the apple usb to 1/8 jack it has better sound no static but no volume only trying to push a Sennheiser drop pc38x any way to boost the volume
unique wind
and I cannot get the earcups to stay stable
local man discovers that the edition xs headband is F tier
steel escarp
I randomly decided to fix my posture
unique wind
good posture at a desk? will never be me
steel escarp
xs is perfect for u then
unique wind
i HATE that headband
steel escarp
do you have the same issue as me?
unique wind
i dont think so
ive only tried that headband on he400se and the problem with those is that there was literally zero clamp and theyd just fall off my head
and all the weight of the headphone pushed down into my head through the headband
steel escarp
compared to DT880 the xs sits so annoying
it pushes my glasses forward as they hit the back of the earcup
unique wind
glasses with headphone is tough
steel escarp
when I position the headband when I sit straight I can't look up or down without the earcups moving
oh making sure you sit straight before you put them on and not after helps a lot
DT880 with EQ has been so comfy
unique wind
do they fall off your head
unique wind
people do usually say that 770/880/990 are extremely comfortable
steel escarp
the DT880 pro clamp made me worry the pads would go flat again in a month
because I put them on one of those head shaped shands
unique wind
because I put them on one of those head shaped shands
those r cool
im cheap so i just use the repurposed foam headphone stands that come in hifiman boxes
steel escarp
rip he got the he400se and schiit stack
unique wind
yeah neither get used
steel escarp
understandible
unique wind
he400se were bought just cus they're cheap
i wanted to see if id like an open back with harman eq and those fit the bill
wore them for like a week and bought sundara soon after
steel escarp
he400se is about as big as dt770
unique wind
dt770 easily feel the most sturdy out of any of them but sundara are the most comfortable by far
steel escarp
though much better seperation
he400se next to dt880 is a fun comparison
dt880 is more fun
unique wind
id much rather use dt880
i dont like the way he400se sound stock and i hate the way they feel
theyre so floppy and garbage feeling and the stock earpad fabric is gross
their one redeeming quality is that they're a $100 open back that handles eq extremely well
steel escarp
DT880 stock is not listenable
unique wind
DT880 stock is not listenable
what does your eq profile look like
steel escarp
basically no treble
and mid bass caused by the suede pads
dont ask why but 4k sounds shouty to my ears
unique wind
man said treble go byebye
tepid torrent
DT880 stock is not listenable
A lot of ppl like the 880 600 ohm plus bottlehead crack
Apparently its good
tepid torrent
bottelhead crack?
Its this DIY tube amp thats apparently really good value
steel escarp
sad I couldnt take it home
I have no clue how to describe what I heard but it was nice
I wonder if bigger dynamic drivers have less treble by default
which would make them optimal for a more balanced tonality
honestly that would make perfect sense
unique wind
have you tried lcd2 classic
seems like something youd like if you reduce treble with eq
unique wind
I like harman treble
it seems like you dont though
steel escarp
it sounded really off
unique wind
you like hifiman dip and you reduce treble a lot on 880
steel escarp
I reduce what I need to
I use the measurement to quickly adjust the most noticable peaks and do the rest by ear
steel escarp
you like hifiman dip and you reduce treble a lot on 880
do you get good bass extension on your dt880?
I used them for 4 years without amp
always used to think they had no bass
unique wind
do you get good bass extension on your dt880?
ive never used 880
i own 770 80ohm, he400se, and sundara
but i do like a harman bass shelf on my headphones most of the time
steel escarp
burn the dt770
unique wind
but i do like a harman bass shelf on my headphones most of the time
(for music)
if im watching youtube or voice chatting it can get a little tiring
steel escarp
what??
tepid torrent
id rather use 770 than he400se
What
Ngl
I dont like HE400se that much, but its way better than 770
unique wind
770 80ohm really is not as horrendous as everyone acts like it is
tepid torrent
Objectively better
steel escarp
I owned the 250 ohm dt770
unique wind
250ohm has a weird midbass hill
the 80ohm is kinda just like a rough harman
with an unusual dip in the treble
tepid torrent
He400se has no dynamics and, metallic treble, and a mid scoop, which is about the extent of its problems
The 770 is just straight wonky
unique wind
i dont like 770/880/990 velour earpads though so i never really used them
they feel hard to me not soft or comfortable
i only have like 20 hours total on my 770s after multiple years of ownership
i guess im really picky with earpads because i dont like dekoni or brainwavz leather earpads either
my favorite earpads are the stock sundara pads
steel escarp
i dont like 770/880/990 velour earpads though so i never really used them
880/990 use different foam than the 770
which is softer
unique wind
oh thats good
unique wind
770 pads are poopoo
steel escarp
it fucked with the sound too
mild quail
so if I were to get some pseudo-audiophile headphones with open backs around $150, what would be best?
HD560S or something?
unique wind
hd560s probably
dry stratus
what about a used 500k headphone sold by someone's mother, father, grandparents or whatever for 150 because they don't know value
tepid torrent
*what about a used 500k headphone sold by someone's mother, father, grandparents...
Then take it
Whats that? Meemaw is selling vintage speakers that have become a collectors item for 80 bucks a pair? Great
Then you flip that and make a profit
chrome island
i dont like 770/880/990 velour earpads though so i never really used them
Yhe leather pads on DT770 are actually nice, not a fan of velour though
chrome island
880/990 use different foam than the 770
Umm no, it just depends how worn in they are
steel escarp
Umm no, it just depends how worn in they are
Yes they use different earpads
And the leather dt770 earpads kill the sound stage and dynamics
tired slate
I bought the Tangzu Wan'er variation with mic, but it doesn't seem to be picking up audio
Do you need to do something to get the mic to work?
Or was I accidentally shipped the variant with no mic?
bitter hollow
Is it not inline on the cable
steel escarp
A lot of ppl like the 880 600 ohm plus bottlehead crack
Should I
He got a lotta tubes
Ecc 83 tubes
glad creek
Don't, overpriced shit
lean grove
Don't, overpriced shit
You've used a crack before?
glad creek
Super high distortion and incredibly bad power output for 400ā¬ is a rip off
Not even talking about low impedance headphones, it's litteraly unusable with those
lean grove
Super high distortion and incredibly bad power output for 400ā¬ is a rip off
That's an OTL tube amp for you.
But that power output is high voltage. 14 volts into 600 ohms. Which is nothing to sneeze at.
And that distortion is favorable.
molten lotus
first time ive seen someone dissing bottlehead crack
lean grove
first time ive seen someone dissing bottlehead crack
Xenio is a chronic measurebator
molten lotus
o no
glad creek
I don't see the point of buying high distorsion thing, if i want distorsion I can add it however I want through DSP
Also not being able to use it with low impedance headphones is a bummer
But yeah 14V at 600 Ohms is a lot indeed
lean grove
the distortion is the point. and the output impedance
and there's a je ne sais quois to the tube
so, like, if a tube amp aint for you then dont spend your money on it
but a product doing exactly as expected is far from a ripoff.
naive pewter
$60 for Blue Yeti Blackout, do I buy?
I need to make a decision in the next few minutes
haughty girder
$60 for Blue Yeti Blackout, do I buy?
no
It's ok but not great
if it's new then it's fine, if it's used then avoid
naive pewter
if it's new then it's fine, if it's used then avoid
It is new
For comparison I only have the Snowball iCE at the moment
Which I paid $50 for
steel escarp
knowing this site I can probably get it for 250 if I bargain
lean grove
For comparison I only have the Snowball iCE at the moment
What don't you like about the snowball that makes you want to upgrade
steel escarp
its balls
haha
I owned a yeti mic for a while
it was many years ago, that thing picked up the quietest background noises somehow
far from ideal
naive pewter
What don't you like about the snowball that makes you want to upgrade
I just think it'd be nice to have an upgrade
Also the Yeti has a built in mute button + gain slider
lean grove
Personally I'd stick with the snowball. Mute button can be done in discord and gain might be nice but ideally you should set your gain once and then use a compressor to compensate
molten lotus
$60 for Blue Yeti Blackout, do I buy?
its pretty trash
yeti mics are ass
significantly worse than anything you can grab at 50$
molten lotus
its literally worse than 5$ lavalier microphones
no
I mean 5
3$ generally
if you live in the united states
naive pewter
Would you also argue the Snowball is worse
molten lotus
snowball is worse than yeti
yeti is worse than 5$ mics
what are really comparing this stuff to
naive pewter
https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Lavalier-Lapel-Microphone-Complete/dp/B0838YQ6TS So you're saying this $18 one
Is quite better?
molten lotus
any lav mics are generally better
unless its particularly bad
the one you picked is a no name brand
even then its probably better
naive pewter
You fucking what
Genuine question then, if it's $3 - $5 and it sounds that good, why does nobody seem to know about it?
naive pewter
What mic even has RGB other than headset mics lmao
molten lotus
a lot
naive pewter
Anyways, is it like clip on or something?
molten lotus
yeah
naive pewter
I see
molten lotus
you can get solid desk mics for sub 50$ too
naive pewter
I cannot believe this though
molten lotus
this was just an example to how bad blue yeti is
naive pewter
I'm gonna find the $3 one
molten lotus
lmao
the demo was taken from literally "Microphones" discord
by the owner named audbol
he is an audio engineer, question him if you'd like
naive pewter
what is "heaven2017"
molten lotus
mic name or something maybe
naive pewter
i see
i just want the lnik to the actual product so i get what that guy's got and not an aliexpress mic
molten lotus
you can generally blind buy a 5$ lav mic and have it sound good
despite being an ali mic
somber kestrel
Best gaming headset for around max 195usd, needs to be light and comfortable, preferably the really good sound?
lean grove
Best gaming headset for around max 195usd, **needs** to be light and comfortable...
Drop pc38x
somber kestrel
Been recommended pc37x? Whatās the difference
According to google etc itās just comfort differences?
unique wind
pc37x is closed back and sounds worse
molten lotus
pc37x isn't closed
somber kestrel
Well Iām being told 38 has worse sound than 37 or isnāt worth the extra moneh
So probably going to get 37s
unique wind
pc37x isn't closed
fr? looks closed
molten lotus
can't say
ive never opened it up
but its fairly open
despite being open very little
spring gazelle
Ayo when i asked for 150ā¬ budget if i should get a headset or headphones/mic, sb said PC38x, valid or nah?
lean grove
Ayo when i asked for 150ā¬ budget if i should get a headset or headphones/mic, sb...
That was us and yes its still valid.
spring gazelle
That was us and yes its still valid.
Ayo
spring gazelle
That was us and yes its still valid.
I thought i asked in anotha dc
If i get it ill wait tho, went from 140 to 170 in a few days
lean grove
1200 watts rms at 4 ohm bridged
That's it?
lean grove
Ah. Cool I guess.
exotic schooner
if i dont run it bridged its stable to 2 ohms 600 watts per chanell so basically the same extact thing as running it bridged lol
just need a better sub that is 4 or duel 2 ohm to run it at max it has ddt which is cool for preventing damage to the sub
didnt help when i killed a velodyne spl10bv with it didnt overheat the coil just bottom it out so hard it ripped the coil apart
haughty girder
fr? looks closed
37x is actually fairly open
It may not look like it but the drivers are far enough away from the earcup that the slots in the earcup are enough... shockingly
if you can get the 38x, it's a fair bit better
other than some wonkiness with the volume dial on the side in some rarer cases
copper owl
Yea I have the 37x itās pretty open. I can hear myself talk and a bit of my surroundings depending on the volume
You can see the ridges itās all open and the drivers are in a good place
haughty girder
yea, it's not as open but it also doesn't affect sound anywhere as much because of the distance
so you can consider it just fully open
copper owl
Yea
I mean with them on I can fully hear everything and with sounds playing I can still hear stuff
dry stratus
yea, it's not as open but it also doesn't affect sound anywhere as much because ...
you reminded me of how DT990pro is considered open, and DT880 is considered semi open, but both are about the same
subtle cave
Hey guys, I am looking to buy a soundbar/sound system for my room.
Is it worth spending extra bucks on 5.1 or just go for 2.1? My room is pretty small and I have heard its hard to tell the sound difference in small rooms
dry stratus
what is "small"
when I think of a truly small room, 5.1 would just take up like 1/10th of the room, lol
subtle cave
10 x 10 feet
dry stratus
I would just go with smth small..
subtle cave
Any recommendation?
dry stratus
not a speaker person myself
just think the room is too small for anything like 5.1
I would imagine small living rooms at least
cursive garnet
so i was thinking bout getting a mic and i got recommended this one but it feels kinda expensive any other recommends
cosmic wraith
so i was thinking bout getting a mic and i got recommended this one but it feels...
At2020 ebay
cursive garnet
At2020 ebay
any major differences?
unique wind
if it aināt as open as a hifiman i donāt want it š£ļøā¼ļø
haughty girder
so i was thinking bout getting a mic and i got recommended this one but it feels...
gxl2200 is alr, but if you have a sound treated room, IMO akg p220, blue ember and neat worker bee all sound better
Or if you don't have a sound treated room, se v7
gxl2200 is just a little harsh for what it is. It's great for recording guitar amps and other instruments, but it's not the best for voice
round kiln
So I found an Onkyo TX-2500 stereo receiver online that is described as working for 150 USD. Would it be better than my current Sony STR-DH190?
tepid torrent
Sonic visions is the only good audio discord starting with sonic
tepid torrent
Adapter lord
unique wind
W modi
glad creek
Do you guys know where I can find a new potentiometer and gain switch for a schiit magni ?
lean grove
Email schiit support
unique wind
buy a new magni gang
round kiln
ask in sonic visions
I asked there and was talked down to
So yeah that wasnāt helpful
molten lotus
I asked there and was talked down to
now you know it isn't a good purchase
glad creek
Email schiit support
I did, the didn't want to give me part numbers ...
And now I won't buy any more schiit
round kiln
now you know it isn't a good purchase
Well they didnāt say whether it was good or bad, they just decided to be extremely pretentious about answering the question
And then they didnāt answer the question, so I left
glad creek
What are your speakers ?
round kiln
What are your speakers ?
Iām looking to upgrade those too
I have some cheap edifier speakers that I also got for free
Iām hoping to run them with a turntable
glad creek
I don't know, it's probably best to buy something recent rather than a 45 years old product that could work not as well as when it was new ... If it was working well at all initially
round kiln
Oh also something of note is that one of those speakers doesnāt work
True
But I could go and test it. Itās at a tech thrift store near me
glad creek
You could
round kiln
And itās also listed as working and āsounding greatā
glad creek
I still wouldn't buy it just because of how old it is, and because I do strongly believe that we make way better stuff nowadays
round kiln
That is very true
molten lotus
Well they didnāt say whether it was good or bad, they just decided to be extreme...
they answered you plenty
told you that you might have marginal improvements in terms of sound
but if you want any improvements of notable quality, that you should up your budget and not buy something that costs relatively the same as your 1st amplifier
smod sort of scoffed at you sligthly
but that guy is a pretentious asshat anyways so who gives a shit what he says
fucker only has two hobbies, one is audio second is berating people who don't know audio
glad creek
If i were low on budget I wouldn't bother with dedicated amplifiers and I'd take things like Yamaha hs5 or smth
(maybe not this exact model, I don't know what's good at this price point, it's just a well known model, but the point is there, auto amplified speakers)
round kiln
If i were low on budget I wouldn't bother with dedicated amplifiers and I'd take...
Ok then
Iām looking at used stuff specifically because I donāt have a lot to spend
glad creek
But if it was me, and it was some years ago with my first real setup, I'd just save up
round kiln
Alright
glad creek
But if you say you only have one speaker working (?) Then I'd look at used powered speaker
Because mono is kind of bad lmao
round kiln
But if you say you only have one speaker working (?) Then I'd look at used power...
Yeah I have two, but only one of them is working for some reason. Iāve tried everything, but nothing changed.
I donāt know if itās the speaker or the amp
glad creek
If you swap left and right speaker you'll be able to know if it is speaker or amp
round kiln
True. Iāll try that when I get home
What would you recommend for speakers if itās the speakers?
