he fed on ketchup for like an entire month
#audio-tech
haughty girder
They've been shamed out of existence?
molten lotus
unique wind
maybe hes a master shitposter
molten lotus
maybe hes a master shitposter
he is legit mentally ill
he cuts apart like 80k worth of cables
manic vortex
That is insane thank you for showing me the insanity
unique wind
i might have to check out his channel it seems entertaining
molten lotus
its pure insanity
haughty girder
straightened out coat hangers
molten lotus
haughty girder
why does she look like that
molten lotus
she loves acoconut audio power cables
manic vortex
straightened out coat hangers
No no they ship.without a cable
haughty girder
could use that forehead to guide ships home geez
haughty girder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03I3Q2KHDDQ
this is sharur but worse
molten lotus
no he is schizophrenic
unique wind
sharur shitposts but he's objective in his beliefs
this dude is either ill or a master troll
unique wind
thats so funny though
molten lotus
it is funny
using the money others sent him to bring him to an audio convention
he bought ketchup and cables
unique wind
how can you possibly even evaluate headphones at a show
especially open backs
with all that noise around you
and the company rep staring at you
molten lotus
i also think the same
unique wind
plus who knows if theyre using eq
molten lotus
but id go regardless
manic vortex
this is sharur but worse
Sharur is at least intentionally stupid
unique wind
and they might only give you a curated selection of songs
molten lotus
this is sharur but real
unique wind
but id go regardless
id go just to handle shit for fun but i wouldnt go for purchase validation or anything
molten lotus
and they might only give you a curated selection of songs
you can listen to your music
manic vortex
I didn't even know you could buy a million dollar audio cable
molten lotus
unless its like a huge speaker room
im not sure if he did
he also cut his arms once
claiming he fought a beast in a temple for crystals
which he used to make a cable
showed it in a video
can probably find it
unique wind
i really think hes a master troll klaus
manic vortex
Wut
manic vortex
i really think hes a master troll klaus
Ist anyone master trolls for that few views
molten lotus
i dont think trolls would create lacerations on their own arms
unique wind
he couldve just shut off his own power or purposefully didnt pay for it for the joke
and lied about eating only ketchup
molten lotus
he is probably schizophrenic
he refuses to use any communication but mails
just check his channel man
unique wind
if the dude is trolling he makes me look bad
molten lotus
you cant be a troll for 10 views a video
unique wind
im the only view on his most recent video now
molten lotus
and be dedicated enough to lacerate his arms
molten lotus
im the only view on his most recent video now
scroll down a lot
manic vortex
scroll down a lot
He has a few with 100k plus views
molten lotus
his most watched is 59k
unique wind
He has a few with 100k plus views
these are the biggest that i see
molten lotus
where he dissects the million worth cables
manic vortex
his most watched is 59k
I thought the 59k one was 590k for some reason
molten lotus
unique wind
yo mama
molten lotus
it wasn't a lie btw
molten lotus
tbh not only ketchup but
modern barn
I thought the 59k one was 590k for some reason
Good evening sir. Subtonic would like to speak about your order 😄
molten lotus
damn its the dude who permamuted me for spreading falsehood after stating sundaras and susvaras sound the same because they are planars
what brings you into this parts of the internet
modern barn
damn its the dude who permamuted me for spreading falsehood after stating sundar...
Hello Racist but Doesn't Own Stax
How are ya?
modern barn
what brings you into this parts of the internet
I just said; Subtonic wants to speak to Shruikan about his order
unique wind
the bill collectors are coming after shruikan
modern barn
lean grove
@modern barn what are you doing here this is low-fi only
lean grove
was there a screenshot
unique wind
@manic vortex dont run from the bill collectors
lean grove
every time i see someone from a real audio discord in here i just assume that someone posted a screenshot
unique wind
i hope ive been screenshotted hundreds of times
though its probably more likely grey being screenshotted
unique wind
damn that sux
fast coyote
I finally got a new headset for PC gaming.
unique wind
i wanna join a bunch of random audio servers to see which ones nils is in
unique wind
mm i joined 4 and hes not in any of them
haughty girder
if only he listened more
that's rude
tepid torrent
if only he listened more
MEAN
You know what else is rude
Not acknowledging me listener 
clear sedge
hello audio tech channel i have audio tech question
it is my understanding that for long runs on quarter inch (50-100 ft) i would be susceptible to perhaps excessive levels of noise or signal loss. If i want to run a wire to a speaker from a mixer that only has a quarter inch mono jack for that output to a powered speaker up to 100ft away, should i just run it as quarter inch? My brain says convert to XLR but I'm not sure what converter or cable i should be getting to ensure its actually a balanced signal.
peak sandal
Hello - Does anyone have anygood sound profiles for the H3Pro Wireless please?
steel escarp
Price drop to 230 euros
The reflections made in unlistenable for me
I ordered the fiio ft3
Time to review it
And return it if its worse than dt880
steel escarp
Turns out I pre-ordered it
It's not yet out
Ffs, so that is why nobody was talking about their experience with it
haughty girder
lmao
unique wind
The reflections made in unlistenable for me
steel escarp
I took that shit of my head asap like it was some sort of d990
molten lotus
i took shit
lean grove
i took shit
steel escarp
the closed sundara is a horrible headphone nonetheless
molten lotus
fr nothing like closed back 6xx
dry stratus
like dude what is this
Vs hd820, which would you say is better value?
unique wind
Vs hd820, which would you say is better value?
which would you pick
dry stratus
which would you pick
Sundara closed, because both are bad and can’t be fixed easily, one is just 2k cheaper
unique wind
yah true its a smaller loss with the sundys
stone bridge
Anyone got sugguestions for wireless earbuds? I've had airpods pro for the longest time but just broke my pro gen 2 last week and got an Pixel a year ago. I'm debating between the Pixel Buds Pro or the Sony WF xm4000 which are on sale for $200 (price for pixel buds pro)
$200 is the price I'm looking at with a little wiggle room ig
Don't want airpods again there's just too many annoying things that drove me nuts no longer being an iphone user
unique wind
galaxy buds2 pro
stone bridge
I've been kind of leaning towards the Sony because one there on sale and arent the xm4 supposed to have the best ANC/sound quality or does that not hold true anymore
The Sony's also support ldac and I have lots of high res music
Also I really want google assistant not Bixby
haughty girder
Sundara closed, because both are bad and can’t be fixed easily, one is just 2k c...
820 fix is actually fairly simple
if I could get gifted either
I'd get the 820
because I can flip it for more
dry stratus
if I could get gifted either
I said value, aka if you were to buy it yourself
Not gift
haughty girder
Oh
then I'd still go HD820
because they hold their value somehow
And at least they're pretty
molten lotus
I've been kind of leaning towards the Sony because one there on sale and arent t...
the in ears or over ears?
steel isle
How do I edit equalizer settings with Audeze HQ?
molten lotus
you uninstall it and install equalizer apo
steel isle
Can it change the on-device presets?
molten lotus
yes
use it with the peace gui addon if you don't know what you are doing
makes it easier
steel isle
Why is there two audio outputs? Maxwell Game and Maxwell Chat?
GOD what an awful UI....
dry stratus
Why is there two audio outputs? Maxwell Game and Maxwell Chat?
Two different volumes for game and voice chat?
steel isle
Afaik, win 10 volume mixer have that built in
And afaik, in-game settings nowadays does not even allow for selection of audio output device, they use windows default for all.
molten lotus
GOD what an awful UI....
what of it
it has everything you can need
if having a good ui is having 8 buttons total in your screen then im very well pleased with eq apo not being that
stone bridge
the in ears or over ears?
Both In ear https://www.sony.com/lr/headphones/products/wf-1000xm4 and https://store.google.com/product/pixel_buds_pro?hl=en-US
stone bridge
I really want google assistant that's kind of a deal breaker tbh
molten lotus
isn't google assistant available on every in ear
stone bridge
And the Pixel buds would integrate very well with my pixel
The Sonys do support google assistant
molten lotus
well
stone bridge
The Galaxy buds use bixbi
stone bridge
My only concern is the fit with the xm4
steel isle
what of it
Its flickery, It closes and re-opens the window whenever I click anything basically...
And extremely sluggish for anything except moving the sliders
molten lotus
And extremely sluggish for anything except moving the sliders
sluggish?
its an eq program
you eq using it and leave it alone
and its the best one at that
steel isle
Yeah, the window redrawing is slow because it re-layouts all elements as soon as you click anything. It has old windows UI artifacts all over.
Its not nessesarily the UI programmers fault, more like not properly handling the windows ui toolkit, or using a very old version of it.
For example, the "selection rectangle" that windows likes to draw around focused controls is sometimes there and sometimes not.
Its as if the UI designer/programmer did not want them to show but did not know how to properly hide them and did a wacky workaround. But enough of that, not Audio talk 🙂
Seems to work at least. Thank you :3
Also. Any UI is at least better than having to write configs manually
ancient edge
hey can anyone here vouch for Schiit audio's gear? I was looking for a new headphone amp/dac but I see very little reviews for the configuration I want, "Jotunheim 2/ess9028 dac card"
steel isle
i prefer writing configs manually tbh
Its the main reason I'm not on linux. I hate non-gui configs.
Also, Peace has no recommended preset for Audeze Maxwell
molten lotus
Its the main reason I'm not on linux. I hate non-gui configs.
Also, Peace has n...
if there is no recommend preset just make one
maxwell is already well tuned
lean grove
hey can anyone here vouch for Schiit audio's gear? I was looking for a new headp...
Schiit audio is solid. I would advise getting the external modi or modius instead of the built-in DAC.
molten lotus
i would advise getting an apple dongle instead of a modius or modi
unique wind
molten lotus
filthy sub 500$ schiit dac apologists
steel escarp
I pull out if it aint a burr brown dac
unique wind
hey can anyone here vouch for Schiit audio's gear? I was looking for a new headp...
the jotunheim is a good amp but the built in dac that comes in any of the schiit modular devices is super poopoo
get it with no dac and use one externally like nils said
molten lotus
copped myself a sick discord tag
lean grove
Oh no
dry stratus
They don’t allow - anymore sadly
lean grove
Damn you got a good name
lean grove
I wonder if that would qualify as an inappropriate name. Might be breaking some rule.
steel isle
i can't mention my own name without being automodded
You saying anyone else mentioning you also gets auto modded? good to know 😄
lean grove
@molten lotus
unique wind
@molten lotus
molten lotus
:/
tepid torrent
@molten lotus
haughty girder
i would advise getting an apple dongle instead of a modius or modi
I mean, Modius is fine mostly
Modi doesn't make as much sense outside of aesthetics which, it is pretty
but modius is balanced
and for that use, it's perfectly fine
molten lotus
and for that use, it's perfectly fine
for what fucking purpose would anyone need a balanced dac for 200$
That sounds like an apple dongle
unique wind
klaus struggling to understand that some people just want a very well measuring balanced dac with good build quality for $200
instead of shopping for source gear based on pseudoscience
unique wind
I mean, Modius is fine mostly
its pretty pog but it hurt my feelings a lot that magnius is only available in black
because i really wanted to be able to get a silver stack
lean grove
its pretty pog but it hurt my feelings a lot that magnius is only available in b...
Sandpaper is $7
unique wind
Sandpaper is $7
🧠
molten lotus
klaus struggling to understand that some people just want a very well measuring ...
for what does a well measuring dac matter if you can't hear the difference between it and the non balanced version
lean grove
Klaus when he can't hear the difference between dacs
molten lotus
not between modi and modius i fucking cant
look guys i paid 200$ for balanced apple dongle
omggg
unique wind
klaus should be in apple house sound
unique wind
it is quite literally a schizophrenic audio server
molten lotus
SG peeps always on about how modi is dongle tier
ive never heard of modi being talked about in sg
i own the thing
its trash
unique wind
local klaus mad that his dac isnt changing the sound (its not supposed to)
molten lotus
why would i buy a dac to have apple dongle sound
molten lotus
no i just like meaningful expenses
unique wind
you are so close to the point
haughty girder
for what does a well measuring dac matter if you can't hear the difference betwe...
balanced really just means very very low chance of interference
and given the performance of modius, is justifiable
Apple dongle has interference issues
big time
molten lotus
balanced really just means very very low chance of interference
you almost never have interference issues with regular dac single ended
unless you live in an electricity maintenance grid I don't see you having interference issues
lean grove
The 2 inches it runs between the computer and the amp is critical
mortal fractal
i have been messing around with my voice and some spectrum sound graphing app
these were the most interesting to look at
human vocal range for speaking is usually somewhere around 80-300Hz
EDIT: fundamental frequency that is, then the generally 4-6 overtones from that
what am i doing
haughty girder
you really think your voice is only one frequency?
mortal fractal
oh ok i'll ask somewhere else
steel escarp
White fiio ft3
Looks sexy
Didn't find anything about it on fiio's website. This screenshot was found on a reseller's website
Anything white is usually a no go for gamers though
glad creek
I need a tv furniture for my home theater
But i swear it's the hardest thing to choose
I have a denon avr x3700h and a focal aria cc900 for the center speaker
I was wondering if it would be neat to put the speaker on a wall mount
solid swift
Thought on buds 2 pro new for 170 euros, 150 for refurbed? Normal buds 2 are around 90 euros.
serene surge
Is there any earbuds that can simultaneously play audios from two sources? Two Bluetooth, or one Bluetooth + one 2.4ghz with a separate dongle.
gaunt solstice
anyone have some good quality cheap bluetooth headphones? for gaming
i don't wanna pay the 200 dollars for that one good headset cause it seems overpriced to me
lusty flame
Hi, I'm looking to purchase a mic for discord and in game voice chat for around 50 eur. I have the Razer Seiren Mini and the HyperX SoloCast in mind. Any suggestions?
glad creek
anyone have some good quality cheap bluetooth headphones? for gaming
forget bluetooth for gaming, too much latency
also headphones are hard to make, headsets with mics are harder to make, wireless headphones are harder to make and wireless headphones with mic and low latency for gaming are even harder
So yeah, there is a reason why it's expensive (or dogshit)
tawny pendant
In my headphone sounds are inverted, if there is a enemy in right then I get sound from the left. I've been using it like this for 3 years now i need a solution. Does anyone know what to do?
The headphone works correctly when connecting to other devices, this problem is only when connecting to my pc, also my pc audio is working correctly when connecting other headphones. only this specific combination gives inverted audio
Idk why this is happening
buoyant vale
Wear them backwards
fringe obsidian
anyone have some good quality cheap bluetooth headphones? for gaming
I would look at the 7Hz Crinicle in ear monitors and a $20 lavalier mic. https://crinacle.com/rankings/iems/ is a good resource (he also does headphones), but generally wired are preferred due to latency.
pallid fossil
Would this be the right place to ask for wireless lav suggestions?
fossil zinc
I just got a sennhiesser drop pc38x headset
My pc is old and onboard sound card sucks
Looking for a decent usb sound card
Any recommendations the creative ones all I see in reviews is how garbage they are
steel escarp
why did like 70% of people on r/headphones vote to keep it closed
do they not understand reddit is losing ad money from having a free api
white gate
@steel escarpCause reddit has behaved in such a stupid/irritating way since the start of the issue that they've gotten a lot more people angry than originally were
gaunt solstice
I would look at the 7Hz Crinicle in ear monitors and a $20 lavalier mic. https:...
wdym latency on headphones? like hte sound just lags behind or something?
unique wind
lemmy passed 1 million users apparently
i wonder if reddit will fizzle out as users leave and moderation becomes difficult with lack of third party tools
molten lotus
do they not understand reddit is losing ad money from having a free api
good
steel escarp
why
molten lotus
i hope this results in reddit getting deleted
steel escarp
where am I gonna have to go for all the weird specific shit that random specific subreddits are build around
molten lotus
mental health institutions
steel escarp
molten lotus
I just got a sennhiesser drop pc38x headset
My pc is old and onboard sound card ...
apple usb c to 3.5
steel escarp
I want a white fiio ft3
fiio didn't respond to my inquiry about when the white one will be available
slim mason
why did like 70% of people on r/headphones vote to keep it closed
You should see whats going on in other subs
white gate
wdym latency on headphones? like hte sound just lags behind or something?
Many bluetooth headphones the sound will be slightly delayed
steel escarp
@white gate when is the fiio ft3 review coming xD
white gate
<@131430941204676608> when is the fiio ft3 review coming xD
Don't have one planned atm
steel escarp
I see
I am very surprised they didn't send a white unit to Joshua Valour
If it actually exists
lean grove
Grey you gotta take the L and realize that nobody cares about the fiio phones
haughty girder
do they not understand reddit is losing ad money from having a free api
But reddit relies on the users to survive.
If the major subreddits all shut down
the ad revenue goes down regardless
steel escarp
Grey you gotta take the L and realize that nobody cares about the fiio phones
I want to fuck around with them
It's what I get enjoyment out of
haughty girder
if 25% of people use a third party app and 75% use the stock app, 75% of 1000 is still less than 75% of 2000, for example
it's a lose lose situation
but Reddit is losing more by charging that much for the API
because the users don't go there, and no users = no ad revenue
unique wind
reddit can just kick the mods out or remove the ability to private the sub
tepid torrent
That be stepping way too far
unique wind
i agree but they can do whatever they want
tepid torrent
Surely by that point the community with be done with it
unique wind
and they will before they kneel to consumers
lean grove
i agree but they can do whatever they want
Are you saying that reddit is a money driven business and doesn't care about the end consumer as much as they pretend to??!
tepid torrent
Noway
molten lotus
reddit can just kick the mods out or remove the ability to private the sub
already in the works
pretty sure they created a moderator vote out system
tepid torrent
Are they really?
molten lotus
yeah
tepid torrent
Thats fucked
lean grove
pretty sure they created a moderator vote out system
Illusion of choice. I'm sure they won't stuff the ballets.
gaunt solstice
Many bluetooth headphones the sound will be slightly delayed
by how much
seconds? millaseconds?
lean grove
seconds? millaseconds?
best case scenario 30 or so ms, which is not super noticable. but thats assuming you're using aptx LL. if you're using a more normal bluetooth codec, its gonna be closer to 70 ms which is noticable.
if you're using bluetooth on windows, its gonna be closer to 150 ms which is just god awful.
gaunt solstice
how do i reduce the delay?
what is a aptx ll
im using a bluetooth adapter i got from amazon that has no delay on my controllers and mouses
it may have some but it's not noticable at all
lean grove
yeah that's the thing. its harder to notice.
audio is different
you're so used to visual and audio being linked together. gunshots, explosions, punches, kicks, stomps, even running. your brain ties them together with cause and effect
if there's a delay, your brain disconnects them and it gets annoying
and delay is caused by hardware and the codec that the hardware has to use. sometimes you have bluetooth devices that have nice hardware and let you change the codec. its pretty much just a format of bluetooth communication.
gaunt solstice
ill try it out and if its bad ill just return the headset
gaunt solstice
amazon is crazy good
violet socket
A basic clip on lavalier mic will get the job done if you want something cheap and easy
a fancier option is the antlion mod mic which is my general recommendation for converting headphones into a headset
inland flame
👏🏻
violet socket
anything past the mod mic is overkill for general gaming imo
glad creek
I really need to find a good cheap lavalier mic to recommend to people
molten lotus
anything past the mod mic is overkill for general gaming imo
midmic is really bad
it sounds worse than lots of headset mics out there
we desperately need something like a modmic but instead cheap and actually sounds like a 3$ lav mic
steel escarp
What did u order
steel escarp
I checked with fiio and they did not plan to manufacture a white fiio ft3 or grey any time soon
molten lotus
give them my name
steel escarp
Why did they make a pic of it if that's the case
molten lotus
they will reconsider
steel escarp
Real?
molten lotus
yeah
glad creek
we desperately need something like a modmic but instead cheap and actually sound...
So any lavalier recommendation around the same price tag ?
molten lotus
So any lavalier recommendation around the same price tag ?
any is fine generally
generally i can blindly buy a lav mic from amazon for sub 5$
and it will sound nice
unique wind
placement, gain setting, and post processing will matter more than what brand of lav you get most likely
molten lotus
most come from no name brands so its difficult to follow which is which
unique wind
klaus get 3.5mm adapters for your utws3
unique wind
I checked with fiio and they did not plan to manufacture a white fiio ft3 or gre...
more opportunity for you to mod the original ones
molten lotus
klaus get 3.5mm adapters for your utws3
why
so i can underdrive my every headphone?
unique wind
utws5 has enough power for almost every headphone
does utws3 have significantly less?
molten lotus
utws5 doesn't have enough power for almost every headphone
unique wind
it does
unique wind
it does
mine has never clipped
and it has no noise floor with sundara even at max volume
which is unlistenably loud with no eq running
unique wind
that’s a ton of power gang
molten lotus
as fuck
molten lotus
i don't want to or need to underdrive headphones
unique wind
klaus explain to me how they’re underdriven if they can be ran painfully loud without clipping or noise floor
molten lotus
they do clip though
noise floor is normal to not be audible
they are meant for iems
unique wind
yah
you do get noise floor with iems but that’s also well beyond the level you’d ever use them
molten lotus
and being loud doesn't mean they are driven well
you can make most headphones get unlistenably loud with 10$ amps
not the point
unique wind
i don’t hear any quality loss compared to my amps
molten lotus
golden made a video on this
molten lotus
i don’t hear any quality loss compared to my amps
lofi ears
you are literally running them bluetooth too
unique wind
my lofi ears that can hear 1-2db differences in eq
molten lotus
yet not in a lossy bluetooth protocol vs wired
unique wind
and also can hear inverted polarity
unique wind
yet not in a lossy bluetooth protocol vs wired
i don’t use lossless music at all so that is probably why
bluetooth won’t matter for spotify
unique wind
aptx adaptive is 280-420kbps
molten lotus
my bad i forgot utws5 has aptx adaptive
anyways its still physically not driven well
unique wind
aptx adaptive is a game changer for real
molten lotus
go watch golden's video on this
if you don't want to take my word for it
he does a better job explaining the concept with graphs and measurements
unique wind
i don’t agree with golden
molten lotus
you worship 0.01% measurement differences
yet when the dude brings up big differences in terms of driving headphones
with measurements at that
i dont agree
what
unique wind
50mw is wayyyyy more than enough power
molten lotus
🙂
unique wind
and the output is very clean
when i use my stacks i don’t drive the headphones any harder than i do with utws5
if i used flacs maybe there’d be a difference but in my situation using compressed music, watching youtube, and playing games; there’s no real quality loss
the only penalty is 50-80ms of delay which is imperceptible for me
molten lotus
the difference is objectively there whether you like it or not
you just can't hear it
this is not a 1% measurement
its a very obvious measurement
unique wind
nah
molten lotus
you also forget that you can output 50mw
not necessarily 50mw clean power
your amp can physically output 50mw maximum
unique wind
yah whatever it’s outputting is enough for both he400se and sundara
the chad utws5: no clipping or noise floor
the virgin schiit iemagni: has a mental breakdown if you run it on high gain with low impedance headphones
glad creek
The sigma topping user : definition of perfection
unique wind
The sigma topping user : definition of perfection
glad creek
The only thing that's not perfect is there speaker amp for something else than desktop use
They lack a bit of power imo for HT and big rooms
unique wind
yeah the la90 is more near-midfield focused
it would probly be ridiculously expensive to make a 150w+ version that still has equal cleanliness
im not an amp designer so idk but i imagine it would be
glad creek
I mean the la90 as a mono feature where it delivers more power but still
40w at 8 ohms isn't a lot AT ALL
wait what is this bridge mode
Apparently it offers way more power ?
Is that like when the pre amp is bypassed ?
unique wind
it can do quite a bit in monoblock mode
glad creek
yeah i saw that
But then you need a pre amp and 2 amps
So you go from 700eur to 2k quite easily
I was looking at buying one multichannel dac (topping dm7) and buying 3 stereo amps for my HT setup
But 40W at 8 Ohms isn't enough and using them at mono is too expensive
unique wind
pretty sure it’s much more than 40 into 8
unique wind
ah
glad creek
It's super strange imo
unique wind
seems like an amp youd want to use at 0.0000x% distortion 5w anyway
not as a high power block
glad creek
oh yeah true
100db sinad vs 120
I never looked at the PA7 since i thought the la90 was there most powerful one
unique wind
get a mcintosh mc2kw
glad creek
lmao
lean grove
5 watt class a amp > giga shit class D clean meme
unique wind
use a bunch of aiyima a07s with upgraded power supplies
lean grove
For my home theater ? Not really
Just get 100db+ efficient speakers.
unique wind
yeah just use three klipsch lascala for lcr
glad creek
I have focal aria 906 @ 8 Ohms / 89.5dB sensitivity
glad creek
use a bunch of aiyima a07s with upgraded power supplies
My denon avr x3700h is at least better than those haha
glad creek
that's ugly
lean grove
U ugly
unique wind
glad creek
true
unique wind
that’s cool looking
molten lotus
cope
molten lotus
real
lean grove
@molten lotus have you ever heard of anyone with near-field magnepans
Im wondering what it would be like if I put them on stilts.
unique wind
be the first guy to do it
dry stratus
wonder how weird a speaker setup would look for me
unique wind
just get nht super zeros
they’re sealed and don’t do anything below 100hz
and they’re small
lean grove
just get nht super zeros
They look crusty
molten lotus
<@456226577798135808> have you ever heard of anyone with near-field magnepans
no
ive never experienced planar speakers
no shops here have any to test
and all my friends are headphone gang
unique wind
They look crusty
ur crusty
glad creek
<@456226577798135808> have you ever heard of anyone with near-field magnepans
i have
oh wait not near field
lean grove
Like at a desktop
There's the mini Maggie system which are crusty
I'm thinking like an LRS
crude axle
Anyone have some good recommendations for wireless earbuds in the 50-75 £ range?
Thinking of getting a new pair
ashen elk
Guys, what are some good wireless earbuds for 100€? I'm looking at Sony WF lineup and the galaxy buds 2
dry stratus
and they’re small
but are they good
unique wind
i mean
theyre a dirt cheap tiny speaker, they have some problems
but i dont know of anything thatd work better for you at that price
you could get something larger and buy some 100hz highpass plugs
dry stratus
theyre a dirt cheap tiny speaker, they have some problems
best at under 800
dry stratus
i dont know
can I eat u then?
unique wind
steel escarp
why do they have to remind me so fast why I was not subscribed to them for the longest time until last week
I guess things aren't mean to be
how much are they gonna milk a headphone released in 2013
they must make some expecially good margins on that headphone on their webshop
glad creek
2013 ? It's more like early 2000 man
white gate
@steel escarpIf milking/pushing high margin products was the aim, HD600 would NOT be high up the list
steel escarp
if not high margin in must be high volume
white gate
Not really
He made the video because he'd been using it a fair bit recently, there's no conspiracy
glad creek
The hd 600 is just the most known and loved headphone ever made that's all there is to it
(I got two of them lmao)
glad creek
It's super comfy
white gate
I would take a dt880 over it any day of the week
😬
glad creek
And yeah I'd never get a dt880 over an hd600
glad creek
Well if you like it good for you I guess, still seeing content about the hd600 is fairly normal
steel escarp
it actually has okay bass extension if you get rid of some of the mid bass
steel escarp
330 euros for a hd600
tepid torrent
I would take a dt880 over it any day of the week
Me when subjectivism
HD600 is a great headphone
glad creek
330 euros for a hd600
It's expensive yeah, especially since you can find them used for 100-150€ but honestly? There is a reason they've been on the market for 20+ years and people still talk about it
steel escarp
it was below average on the ifi pro ican signature
maybe I need to have a long session with it to understand it
tepid torrent
I cant describe how frustrated I am when people take their subjective opinions and present them as objective
You like the DT880
I get it
steel escarp
I am saying its price does not match the performance
its not a bad product, its a bad price
haughty girder
its 350usd?
steel escarp
yes
haughty girder
330eur is much more than that
steel escarp
330 eur is about 360 usd
glad creek
Then explain why the whole community loves them still even at that price point
They lack a bit of basses, they are ultra super duper comfy and can be worn for hours and hours, they are durable, they have a sound signature that most like (slightly warm/and easy on the ears), they are super easily found second hand, they've been sold for 20 years and are super known
They are not the best yeah, but they are the point of comparison of the whole industry
steel escarp
I'd say that the community has gotten complacent
dry stratus
why do they have to remind me so fast why I was not subscribed to them for the l...
the reason I am not subscribed is because of Chrono
glad creek
I'd say it's okay to not like them but don't think that your opinion is the truth everywhere
As I said they are not the best, but they are a staple and that's all
dry stratus
the reason I am not subscribed is because of Chrono
the guy who says HD820 is good
dry stratus
HD600 is technically better than HD650
molten lotus
i don't like either headphone but hd600 i like far less
dry stratus
HD650 is warmer
steel escarp
I heard a HD820 several times, it has gotten less bad over the times, but that could just be that the other closed backs I heard were so much worse
dry stratus
HD820 just has random holes in its sound so eh
glad creek
i don't understand the appeal of hd600 when hd650s exists
For second hand there is an appeal since they are quite close, but yeah you're right
I usually consider them as only one headphones (i possess both), the slight differences do exist but it's still close
molten lotus
i just
steel escarp
I'd say it's okay to not like them but don't think that your opinion is the trut...
I didn't say they were unlikable, this is a pointless argument.
molten lotus
cannot stomach the soundstage and layering of 6** phones
hd560s is nice, ill get behind it
steel escarp
yeah the stage was quite shocking if you daily drive edition xs
dry stratus
I don't even consider 6x0 an objectively good headphone...
I consider it a headphone for acoustic instruments and vocals and overall slower genres and the enjoyment of it
it ain't bad, no where near it
but it isn't exactly that "capable"
molten lotus
never had an opportunity for a good headphone tube amp
glad creek
I'd like an open back headphones as comfy as the hd600 honestly...
I did love my akg q701 though
molten lotus
yeah the stage was quite shocking if you daily drive edition xs
fuck the xs bro
its shocking small even compared to the sundara
molten lotus
no
i meant as in don't even mention xs, even sundara is a ton bigger in terms of stage
and the headphone is like 200$ cheaper than xs
molten lotus
i don't like the sundara but
steel escarp
I had it on for like 5 seconds and was not impressed. had no reason to listen longer
the closed one I took of after 2 seconds because my ears instantly hurt from their sound
lean grove
Chasing stage is doomed for disappointment
molten lotus
stage shape yeah
if we are talking stage size impressions
if its equivalent to sundaras or above that's fine by me
steel escarp
as long as it isnt an aeon x closed
molten lotus
if it's better or bigger I'll be happy but it wont be the determining factor
dry stratus
Chasing stage is doomed for disappointment
is there anything that doesn't just sound wide and thats it? (HD800 be like)
not even wide, just distant
steel escarp
HD800 gives a sense of space by wrapping the sounds completely around your head but they are not distant strangely enough
lean grove
is there anything that doesn't just sound wide and thats it? (HD800 be like)
You're asking for depth rather than width?
glad creek
What's the best headphone you ever heard/owned ? Mine was a stax Sr 507
dry stratus
HD800 gives a sense of space by wrapping the sounds completely around your head ...
just sounds like I am listening to speakers 5 mountains away
lean grove
Yeah idk what you're thinking grey. The hd800 everything sounds too distant.
glad creek
Soundstage in headphones is overrated, if you want soundstage just go speakers
lean grove
Pretty much.
If headphones sound like the singer is right against your ear, congratulations, that means they're accurate.
steel escarp
Yeah idk what you're thinking grey. The hd800 everything sounds too distant.
I only listened to "someone like you" from adele on the hd800 on the violectric v222. there were no distant instruments in the mix. just piano and a center vocal that completely wrapped around my head
so cant comment
glad creek
I prefer focusing on technical performance for headphones since it's way harder to get it with speakers
But soundstage and physical sensations => speakers
dry stratus
at this point I either just want something portable, or save up for Susvara or find a HE6
lean grove
Do you not have a he6
steel escarp
I think the valour pads of the dt880 are making the technicalities worse
dry stratus
Do you not have a he6
too rare and too expensive for me who still has many thousands to spend on other things as well
steel escarp
it sounds like the driver is trying too hard to get the sound waves in your ears
dry stratus
priorities
steel escarp
if only idcompany was here, he'd be able to explain this stuff
lean grove
too rare and too expensive for me who still has many thousands to spend on other...
Reduce your daily intake of olive oil to only 5 gallons
dry stratus
Reduce your daily intake of olive oil to only 5 gallons
nah
glad creek
I think the valour pads of the dt880 are making the technicalities worse
I think the dr880 isn't technical at all anyway so eh
dry stratus
Reduce your daily intake of olive oil to only 5 gallons
to be fair, I've consumed 30 bottles so far this year 🤔
so 30 litres
so like 5 litres per month?
glad creek
it sounds like the driver is trying too hard to get the sound waves in your ears
Simple, extremely low sensitivity combined with high low end distortion is what you feel
Since it has low sensitivity the performance of you amplifier matters even more and adds even more distorsion if it's not super good
dry stratus
but can it run HE6?
steel escarp
it can run susvara
dry stratus
HE6 harder to run tho
dry stratus
AKG k1000 is harder to run
I don't want anything to do with that device, I've only ever seen the worst peeps shill for it
lean grove
Yeah it's not great
Well, mine isn't especially
But it's like. Okay for some genres.
unique wind
i want to run susvara on my fiio utws5
dry stratus
I've over ever seen people in certain groups talk about it positively...
lean grove
I've over ever seen people in certain groups talk about it positively...
Yeah. Big meme.
Time bombs are the best memes.
I didn't run it off a ud501 and ta-86b so I guess I didn't get the full experience
dry stratus
how long until all HE6 are dead
unique wind
hopefully not much longer
dry stratus
why
lean grove
So people will stop talking about them
unique wind
^
dry stratus
then they will just talk about how dogcrap HE6SE is
lean grove
That's fine
It's okay to talk about how bad something is. Happens every day
But it's annoying when people say how good something unobtainable or extremely fragile and inconvenient is.
unique wind
but it’s old and rare and cumbersome
lean grove
Religious reverence for how things used to be better, audiophilr equivalent to old man sitting on his porch saying how he could get candy for a penny and how nobody blinked when he called them slurs.
unique wind
😿
steel escarp
hd820 still better than a sony mdr-z1r
lean grove
Sony looks comfier
steel escarp
when me and my friend heard the z1r we actually burst out in laughter
it was not good
steel escarp
yeah
unique wind
it looks more tolerable than 820 though
steel escarp
my dt880 really has some pretty good bass extension
and I currently only got a damping factor of 500
unique wind
you should get a rig so you can see what the mods you’re doing change
steel escarp
actually I could double that by using the single ended
steel escarp
you should get a rig so you can see what the mods you’re doing change
I really should
but like
my denon ah-d5000 is not that good
for the money of a rig I can get a better headphone
it'd be super cool to see what mods do though
okay I doubled the damping factor
glad creek
How much does it cost ?
I have a miniDSP ears somewhere but it's not that great and you can't measure electrical signals
steel escarp
How much does it cost ?
the violectric v222 is 1200 euros
these are the amps sennheiser used to introduce their hd800 before they developed their own shitty in house amp
oh you mean for a measurement rig
the miniDSP should only be used for volume matching at most lol
you could get a rig for 800 euros
that is good
quoting Listener
People like SideSaladAudio are using a clone 711 coupler + clone pinna, total for everything would be around $800 but we don’t have a DF HRTF for that pinna yet so you’d have to go on the assumption that GRAS KB500x and KB006x share a DF HRTF
MiniDSP EARS doesn’t follow industry spec and doesn’t accurately model the acoustic impedance of the ear. In other words, p worthless IMO
stable rune
I don't mean to interrupt anything but may I ask a question?
steel escarp
sure!
unless you need a bluetooth headphone for 30 euros
then no
oh I hit the nail on the head... he stopped typing
stable rune
Nah
stable rune
Its a different question
steel escarp
I am all ears
stable rune
May you or anyone know of a very decent pair of headphones that has the option to connect via wired, bluetooth, and 2.4hz dongle?
steel escarp
what is your budget?
stable rune
And also, are we allowed to send links here?
steel escarp
yeah
which devices are you gonna connect it to wirelessly?
any consoles specifically
stable rune
These headphones are what I might get, but I was wondering if there is a higher quality pair that has all 3 ways to cennect just like these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WQYXHJW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1R66Q58VL4GAC&psc=1
glad creek
the violectric v222 is 1200 euros
I'm talking about a measurement rig
steel escarp
oh you mean for a measurement rig
yeah I noticed
stable rune
which devices are you gonna connect it to wirelessly?
Any and every device
steel escarp
and what is your budget?
stable rune
$60 - $65
steel escarp
I'm dead, someone else help this guy
stable rune
I'm dead, someone else help this guy
What would be a good budget then?
steel escarp
nothing wrong with the budget, but you need to manage your expectations
dry stratus
infinite, because it don't exist
steel escarp
what?
dry stratus
good wireless headset is already about non existent
stable rune
I want one that can be wired and wireless
glad creek
At this price point you should just go wired anyway
dry stratus
are there even good wired at 65, its mostly in ears and koss at those prices 🤔
stable rune
they usually don't work with both playstation and xbox
I'd probably end up using them with just my pc and phone then
steel escarp
I mean, most of the budget spent on making the headphone will have gone to the wireless circuitry
stable rune
These headphones are what I might get, but I was wondering if there is a higher ...
Opinion on these?
glad creek
are there even good wired at 65, its mostly in ears and koss at those prices 🤔
No there are no good headphones but there are usable things at least
steel escarp
if you get one that is like 70 euros
glad creek
Opinion on these?
Don't buy that
steel escarp
everything about that thing screems bad sound
music and voices aint gonna be pretty in any gaming closed back headphone
you get super boomy bass and harsh treble
stable rune
Are there are no decent pairs of headphones that can connect wired and wirelessly?
steel escarp
audeze maxwell costs 400 euros
its a good closed back wireless gaming headphone
though the comfort of the earpads and build quality of the headband are a bit questionable at the price
the real shit is a good headphone with a clip on mic
stable rune
Ah
steel escarp
they are not wireless though
stable rune
steel escarp
less bad than I thought they'd be
glad creek
Do understand that buying a wireless headset is not buying a good product but the less bad one
steel escarp
would not recommend for prolonged sessions
glad creek
So it's hard to recommend anything
steel escarp
Do understand that buying a wireless headset is not buying a good product but th...
we are doing damage control at this point
dry stratus
Do understand that buying a wireless headset is not buying a good product but th...
the least horrible one*
"bad" is too light of a word
glad creek
True
spring gazelle
DT750 vs hyperx cloud 2, how big is the difference? Thinking of returning cloud 2s
stable rune
I think I did see them as either a sponsor in one of Linus' vidoes or were reccomended by him
stable rune
What about these?
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Arctis-Multi-Platform-Gamin...
These ones I mean
dry stratus
Linus has no idea about audio
glad creek
Arctis wireless headsets after the audeze Maxwell are the less horrible ones yeah
But Linus is not someone that knows a lot about audio
steel escarp
DT750 vs hyperx cloud 2, how big is the difference? Thinking of returning cloud ...
what the heck is a DT750
spring gazelle
what the heck is a DT750
Headphones? DT headphones are well known bro
spring gazelle
but no dt750
dry stratus
they likely are
spring gazelle
Someone recommended them to me lmao
dry stratus
it looks like some chineese knockoff
look up fame audio and you have 3 headphones... all of them look like a cheaper version of an already existing headphone, lel
and always with the letter the original also had
steel escarp
I am finding 0 consistency in their actve speaker and mic lineup
what the heck
do they just rebrand chineese stuff?
spring gazelle
Any alternatives to hyperx cloud 2 (without mic is fine) that are considerably better?
glad creek
At what price ?@spring gazelle
spring gazelle
At what price ?<@333904299610341381>
Like 70€
steel escarp
moondrop aria
dry stratus
Cloud 2 out here being good specifically because its not a gaming headset, its a rebrand with a mic attachment
steel escarp
spring gazelle
Watafak
spring gazelle
Got the nekocake (black)
They fell in my toilet... 0/10
dry stratus
Cloud 2 out here being good specifically because its not a gaming headset, its a...
tfw
what cloud II is:
spring gazelle
tfw
The cloud 2 are (honestly) worst headphones ive had almost
Hard ear cushion, small ear thingies, feels kinda cheap and uncomfortable
And sound isnt that much better compared to my old SGH3
dry stratus
about the best sound you gonna get in a device sold as a "gaming" headset
for those who want black and red because they want to feel "gamer"
instead of best sound for the money
gaming headsets are just a scam, lel
spring gazelle
instead of best sound for the money
Sgh3 WAY more comfortable and feels very high quality, i do have to admit the hyperx have clearer sound and are a tad bass(ier)
spring gazelle
for those who want black and red because they want to feel "gamer"
Didnt like the look that much tbh
spring gazelle
gaming headsets are just a scam, lel
So back to my question, is that a no oooor?
spring gazelle
Any alternatives to hyperx cloud 2 (without mic is fine) that are considerably b...
dry stratus
if you want "gaming" on the box, not really at the budget
steel escarp
get the hd560s
dry stratus
over 2x budget
spring gazelle
if you want "gaming" on the box, not really at the budget
Dont care abt that, just mentioned gonna be used for gaming
dry stratus
Dont care abt that, just mentioned gonna be used for gaming
otherwise IEMs at the budget
like a real gamer
steel escarp
honestly IEMs are great value for sound quality
spring gazelle
honestly IEMs are great value for sound quality
Yeah but dont like the comfort
steel escarp
wired IEMs have very good imaging (directional sound)
dry stratus
just be like some esports players using IEMs under their gaming headset and just wear it like its an ad, not actually to use it
steel escarp
I have had some really bad comfort experience with IEMs
any stock IEM that comes with a phone
samsung, apple, whatever just name it
dry stratus
I haven't, because no IEM has ever stayed in my inhuman alien ears
steel escarp
IEMs have different levels of comfort too
oh yeah my mom has one super weird ear too
she cant wear airpods
dry stratus
I just can't use them because either the tips are too big or too short
only way I've had one stay in once is use it without the tips
spring gazelle
I haven't, because no IEM has ever stayed in my inhuman alien ears
Facts
dry stratus
just force the nozzle in without any tips
steel escarp
what...
gaunt solstice
@lean grove if the headset has a usb with it to connect it, would that still be a lot of latency
steel escarp
a wireless headset?
spring gazelle
Ayo, do i use the hyperx soundcard or naah?
gaunt solstice
Yes wireless
steel escarp
2.4ghz usb usually has less latency than bluetooth
dry stratus
Ayo, do i use the hyperx soundcard or naah?
burn all soundcards
they deserve to die, they should've died decades ago
glad creek
and people recommend 560 like its no issue??
Nobody hear more than 15khz and if they do it's without any precision so it's no problem at all
dry stratus
overpriced garbage
glad creek
And useless software
spring gazelle
So dont use?
What if i prefer the sound with
spring gazelle
usb audio may be better than motherboard audio
A520 hvs
steel escarp
I have seen manufacturers like razor use an annoying pin layout in their headsets so you were forced to use their dongle if you wanted the mic to work
spring gazelle
And hyperx cloud 2 soundcard
dry stratus
just go external amp/dac or dongle
glad creek
Topping dx1s and you are good to go
steel escarp
they also use the anoying usb stuff for crappy virtual surround malware
spring gazelle
Yes or no now
steel escarp
get razer kraken v3
glad creek
You'll probably don't hear that much of a difference anyway considering the headphones
dry stratus
10db bass boost
spring gazelle
get razer kraken v3
They look nice and are same price
steel escarp
soundguys
spring gazelle
10db bass boost
What u think abt kraken v3?
dry stratus
What are those measurement and from where
its right in the middle
dry stratus
What u think abt kraken v3?
trash
glad creek
So much smoothing and what the heck are is that vertical scale
dry stratus
just bloated bass and dark
glad creek
10dB is insane and it looks so small on this scale
dry stratus
anything is better than bass so bloated its all you hear
glad creek
Whys that guy recommending it
He must be high
spring gazelle
anything is better than bass so bloated its all you hear
Hyperx sounds bloated af tbh
glad creek
It has +10dB in the low ends, do remember that every 3dB you double the sound intensity (volume)
dry stratus
cloud II stock sound is pretty neutral
dry stratus
insanely bloated bass never is viable
spring gazelle
cloud II stock sound is pretty neutral
Soundcard sounds better to me 
dry stratus
insanely bloated bass never is viable
unless you like headphones that sound like listening to speakers with water in your ears ofc
steel escarp
if you EQ all the treble after 5kHz down by like 5dB on the cloud 2 it would be okay
dry stratus
Grey just likes it dark
steel escarp
5dB peaks are unacceptable
dry stratus
you just posted something with 9-11db
dry stratus
I prefer a thin peak in the treble than my bass to make it sound like I have only a subwoofer
steel escarp
there is the K361-BT
109 euros for basically the best tuning you are gonna get
@spring gazelle get the AKG K361-BT
spring gazelle
109 euros for basically the best tuning you are gonna get
how much better are they bro
spring gazelle
yh but idk if the better sound is worth it to me
steel escarp
the clarity should be a lot better
dry stratus
latency gonna be quite the thing for gaming tho
steel escarp
they are not wired, there is a non bluetooth wired version
acoustic sparrow
the audio technica ath-m40x.
i found a pair at a garage sale with 3 cables and a pouch for $7.
This a good purchase?
spring gazelle
latency gonna be quite the thing for gaming tho
ill probably use the hyperx for like 2-3 weeks and return em if i dont like them, in that case ima consider the other ones
steel escarp
hmm it will be a bit more compressed sounding
if only people were open go using IEMs
spring gazelle
hmm it will be a bit more compressed sounding
biggest issue with the hyperx rn are comfort
shi is horrible
makes me wanna put back on my sgh3s wtf
molten lotus
It has +10dB in the low ends, do remember that every 3dB you double the sound in...
only by paper
5db ish for human hearing
steel escarp
when people realise IEMs don't make your ears heat up or apply pressure on the top of your head
dry stratus
tfw IEMs don't stay in no matter how many I try
steel escarp
crippled ears
dry stratus
I am an alien
dry stratus
I am basically slenderman but he drinks 60 liter olive oil per year
glad creek
I think it's fine when it's "smooth" and not a succession of +3 -3 +3
molten lotus
My ears don't like deep seats for iems. My ear canal takes a hard left if I seat too deeply I end up with no sound in one ear.
unique wind
just depends what you’re okay with
spring gazelle
i hate whoever recommends hyperx cloud 2s fdnhwjanj ofbnhjiawoml f qajwüobjn
unique wind
personally even a 2db difference in the ear gain region is annoying to me
gotta get that shit right
dry stratus
I prefer -30db at 80hz
spring gazelle
i hate whoever recommends hyperx cloud 2s fdnhwjanj ofbnhjiawoml f qajwüobjn
goddamn monkey
s
Ill genuinly switch back to my falling apart sgh3s bc the hyperx are soahsnbyb
lean grove
<@104014747476705280> if the headset has a usb with it to connect it, would that...
Technically yes. But it's not gonna be nearly as bad as Bluetooth.
Really it's just Bluetooth audio you want to avoid for latency.
Most other things are good enough
gaunt solstice
Alr thanks bro the headset came but I’m at work so I can’t test it until later
glad creek
Anybody has done some room treatment?
lean grove
Golden one has
white gate
Anybody has done some room treatment?
I've done quite a bit
lean grove
Too slow, old man
white gate
lean grove
How old are you again
glad creek
It seems awfully hard to plan out
I guess the first thing I need to do is buy a umik 1
But I have a mini dsp ears too, I don't know if it can do the work of the umik 1
lean grove
It can't
white gate
How old are you again
25