audio-tech

[lean grove]

Like when you blow

[south portal]

Is it necessary to have foam/windscreen for microphone?

[lean grove]

No

[south portal]

Can pop filter be buit-into microphone?

[lean grove]

Kind of but they're worse.

Better than nothing. Not as good as the real thing.

[south portal]

How can I know if pop filter is buit into micorphone or not?

[lean grove]

They almost always have foam in there. So most do.

But it's just how good it is.

And if you wanna know that, find a sound demo on YouTube

[south portal]

I think, any filter can reduce sound/voice.

[lean grove]

Yes.

[south portal]

So real voice will not be recorded.

[lean grove]

What

[south portal]

Original sound will not be recorded.

[lean grove]

It will be

Just slightly different.

[south portal]

Is it necessary to have shock mount for microhone?

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-frustrated-wolf-of-wall-street-annoyed-smh-gif-9553858

Look man.

None of these things are necessary

These make the microphone sound a little bit better

[south portal]

How can shock mount sound better?

[lean grove]

Open google.com and type in the search bar "what does a shock mount do."

[serene surge]

people who listen to asmr to sleep, how does it work? what earbuds do you use? how do you let the audio stop playing after you fall asleep? do those earbuds fall off from your ears or you wear them for the entire sleep? does it create billions of bacteria in your ear holes?

I mean I wanna try it, but I have so many questions

[lone cedar]

anyone know a good under desk subwoofer for under 300? i want to pair them with a Vanatoo Transparent Zero

[marsh kindle]

e rocking that Fifine K669 usb mic

[weak rapids]

shock mount is never necessary

however, if you are a grabber or micro adjuster, depending on the mic it will help a lot

[jovial mantle]

hey ! there 🖐️
plz check this plz....
I'm trying to use flask and alsaaudio to stream system audio (from server [which not have sound card]) to browser (client side)

from flask import Flask, render_template, Response
import alsaaudio

app = Flask(__name__)

def generate_audio():
    inp = alsaaudio.PCM(alsaaudio.PCM_CAPTURE)
    inp.setchannels(2)  # Number of channels (e.g., stereo)
    inp.setrate(44100)  # Sample rate in Hz
    # Sample format (e.g., 16-bit little-endian)
    inp.setformat(alsaaudio.PCM_FORMAT_S16_LE)
    inp.setperiodsize(1024)  # Number of frames per period

    while True:
        length, audio_data = inp.read()
        yield (b'--frame\r\n'
               b'Content-Type: audio/wav\r\n\r\n' + audio_data + b'\r\n\r\n')


@app.route('/')
def index():
    return render_template('index.html')


@app.route('/speaker')
def speaker():
    return Response(generate_audio(), mimetype='multipart/x-mixed-replace; boundary=frame')


if __name__ == '__main__':
    app.run()

using js plaing audio on client side as

    let audioContext;

    function initializeAudio() {
        audioContext = new (window.AudioContext || window.webkitAudioContext)();
        audioElement = new Audio();

        // Set the source and connect it to the audio context
        audioElement.src = "/speaker";
        audioElement.type = "audio/wav";
        const source = audioContext.createMediaElementSource(audioElement);
        source.connect(audioContext.destination);

        // Play the audio after the context is resumed
        audioContext.resume().then(() => {
            audioElement.play();
            console.log("Streaming audio to speaker");
        });
    }

    function toggleSpeaker() {
        var speakerIcon = document.getElementById("speakerIcon");
        if (speakerIcon.classList.contains("fa-volume-mute")) {
            initializeAudio();
            speakerIcon.classList.remove("fa-volume-mute");
            speakerIcon.classList.add("fa-volume-up");
        } else {
            audioElement.pause();
            audioElement.src = "";
            audioContext.suspend();
            speakerIcon.classList.remove("fa-volume-up");
            speakerIcon.classList.add("fa-volume-mute");
            console.log("Stopped streaming audio");
        }
    }```

[tame kiln]

guys im getting hs45 sorround and hs50 pro both at the same price which one should i go for

[molten lotus]

shouldn't

[south portal]

Hello, I do not use pop filter and shock mount with microphone. Is there any problem with that?

[molten lotus]

no

actually you might need the shock mount if your mic needs it

but rarely any mics need it these days

[bright osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/AKG-K702-Reference-Studio-Headphones/dp/B001RCD2DW/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=pXIWE&content-id=amzn1.sym.045b86dd-c3fc-44eb-87c5-71dc19a846eb&pf_rd_p=045b86dd-c3fc-44eb-87c5-71dc19a846eb&pf_rd_r=CH2QMNFPNQD5DNM7G9JG&pd_rd_wg=oOJjl&pd_rd_r=6c6d30d5-bf63-4619-8871-94261e484778&ref_=pd_gw_bmx_gp_hb7ip6yn

180 on amazon rn

[dry stratus]

nah

all foam is 3D tho, you can't have flat foam

[steel escarp]

They are shouty af

It says 180 dollars for me via the link

Thomann has them for 139 euro

[chrome island]

Thomann is basically the cheapest big store for audio/music gear in EU

[steel escarp]

Weird place to have an elevation

I'd definitely want to mess around with pad swapping these

Looks like it'd be fun on tubes

[dry stratus]

sure do love me some spike/boost around 2-3k...

[unique wind]

it’s just what the doctor ordered

[lean grove]

this man needs mouse bites to live

[dry stratus]

when will this chat see michael and klaus getting married

[lean grove]

oh

you werent invited to the wedding?

awkward

[unique wind]

he can’t handle the music that’ll be playing

too much bass

[stuck heart]

Hi, probably a dumb question but is the positioning of the speakers and subwoofers okay here, or is there like a special way to handle this? (Like further away from the TV, or move the subwoofers outward or in the corners?)

I’m just trying to make the living room sound nice

[white gate]

How you position your speakers depends a LOT on how flexible you can be with where you put them.

The ideal position would be further away from the wall but that's not feasible in many cases

subwoofers should be placed in opposite corners if possible

[stuck heart]

I gotcha. And is it okay to have two subwoofers hooked up to the same system?

[white gate]

Yes, in fact having multiple subwoofers is generally preferred as this helps to reduce standing waves in your room and produce a flatter frequency response

But depends on positioning

if you have two subwoofers badly positioned this can be worse than a single sub

[stuck heart]

So it may be possibly worse like shown in my picture with the two subs closest to the TV in front?

So I should move the subwoofers to opposite corners,

And have the speakers further away from the wall, so forward but still in the same front position next to the TV?

[white gate]

If you want to be REALLY precise about it, you can follow the first section of my video on the topic here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1IhzuGDkkA

Otherwise, generally you want the speakers pulled out from the wall behind them, and angled slightly in

[stuck heart]

Thank you very much for the information, I appreciate it 🙂

Though now I’m going to have to cut longer speaker wires for the sub since I was tired and just cut it to exact length for where it’s positioned, oops 😅

It’s my first time messing with sound equipment more advanced than a sound bar so thanks for being patient with me

[dry stratus]

now make an entire speaker setup run at 10w and not require room treatment, then I'll think about it

[stuck heart]

Okay, I moved the speakers forward and twisted them inwards a little bit. I’ll move the subwoofers when I have time to cut speaker wire

[stuck heart]

From what I remember, subwoofers don’t care too much about object near them as speakers do, right? I’m just wondering if this is okay to do or not. At least it’s in the corner?

[white gate]

Yeah objects near it don't matter too much

[stuck heart]

Damn I don’t think I have enough speaker wire to move the left one all the way over to the corner 😦

Time to go get some more then

[stuck heart]

Okay, this is roughly how it should end up. Once I get speaker wire to hook up the left subwoofer that is

[unique wind]

should be some nice booming going on with dual corner loaded subs

[proper marten]

Does anybody know the best speaker or soundbar under $70? I’m thinking about the Razer Leviathan V2 X.

[lean grove]

Take a look at the creative pebbles 2.1 or the Klipsch promedia 2.1

[molten lotus]

good evening everyone.. my headset just broke apart iam thinking of buying the corsair virtuosu rgb wireless xt anyone has experience with it for daily useage? budget is around 350-400 euro i need to be able to use it up to 10h a day usage with and without cable should be possible and a decently good microphone i need

400€

and you buy a corsair

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell is what you want

[molten lotus]

tf

[molten lotus]

i said iam thinking of getting that but iam unsure which is whiy iam asking for recommendations?

[molten lotus]

i never heard that company before you have a link?

go for a maxwell

its pretty decent

i don't know about 10h battery life though

[lean grove]

https://headphones.com/products/audeze-maxwell-wireless-headphones

They typically do studio headphones

But they've been branching out into more consumer stuff

[molten lotus]

audeze does studio headphones?

[lean grove]

Lcd-x

[molten lotus]

they dont need to have 10h battery they need to be able to be weared for 10h plus due to work

that's meant for studios?

[lean grove]

One of the most popular studio headphones out there.

[molten lotus]

🤔

[lean grove]

They are a bit heavy.

350 grams.

[molten lotus]

thats no issue

im going to blame audeze for any song i listen to with thin vocals from now on

i currently have well had a trust radius from 2019

which is dogshit

trust

one of the like

companies you legit cannot find information for

[lean grove]

Also Klaus

[molten lotus]

its like one step above random chinese aliexpress shops

that sell 500 of the same item across different shops

[lean grove]

Maggie's

[molten lotus]

you bastard

im going to kill you for this

[molten lotus]

owned a mic from them

worse than my headset mic

👍

[molten lotus]

i dont find them for a german seller sadly

rip

[lean grove]

Thomann sells them but they're out of stock

[molten lotus]

wait for stock mate

anything you get that's wireless is going to be leagues below the maxwell

they are that worth it

[lean grove]

They'll have some in a few months

[molten lotus]

months?

you certain?

[lean grove]

That's what thomann says

[molten lotus]

mail them for more precise info maybe @molten lotus

[lean grove]

https://www.thomann.de/de/audeze_maxwell_for_playstation.htm

[molten lotus]

hmm what other alternative would be there? maybe for cheaper prices too for a bit of comparison?

like i said

anything not maxwell in the wireless market is

leagues and leagues below

[lean grove]

There's the older audeze stuff, the Penrose and the Mobius, but they're not as good.

They're kinda sketchy built too

[molten lotus]

they are built badly

i know a dude who rmad his like 3 times because of the headband

maybe import one?

from usa ebay or something

i dont really wanna pay cross border tax

20%

22 yes

it should be within budget

what speaks against the corsair one i found tho?

[molten lotus]

its really fucking shit

for one

we really mean it when we say nothing is maxwell level in the gaming headset market

how is the microphone quality on those?

well

just google a microphone demo of it

it will give you a better context than i can provide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL4J77VtXBg

this is with mic suppression toggled on

so it fucks the audio quality quite a bit

but you can turn it off

but yeah ive heard better headset mics definitely

not for wireless though

[stuck heart]

Sorry I have one more question about my setup actually

Is it okay to wire the subwoofer inputs to the receiver “Speaker B” outputs?

I tried using the receiver RCA sub out to my subwoofer RCA input but I don’t think it worked. Only reason why I wired it like that

[topaz cypress]

Usually no.
If this is a receiver usually it has a specific subwoofer output.

[stuck heart]

Oh. 😦

[stuck heart]

I tried to use the subwoofer output but it never sent anything to my subwoofers.

[topaz cypress]

The reason for this is that subwoofer outputs are filtered in a way that only send low frequencies to the sub.

I would work on troubleshooting.

[stuck heart]

Well let me find an RCA cable and try this

I had the subwoofer wired into speaker B, below speaker A outputs that go to my actual speakers.

I think I tried the RCA “PreOut” subwoofer output and it didn’t do anything last time

[topaz cypress]

Receiver model?

[molten lotus]

is it a passive or an active subwoofer

if its the latter i wouldn't recommend it

[stuck heart]

Sorry let me get all the models of everything

Receiver is a Yamaha RX-V1600, the “main” subwoofer with speaker wire inputs and RCA input is an active subwoofer, SA-W303

[molten lotus]

this?

[stuck heart]

The daisy chained subwoofer is also active SA-WMS230

Yes that’s it

[molten lotus]

yeah i wouldn't recommend wiring that

it will work but

i am not confident it is very safe, do get a second opinion though

[stuck heart]

I think it’s okay, I found this for the sub manual

Like I had it hooked up before, Speakers in Speaker A, and the sub on speaker B

[molten lotus]

that's not the subwoofer

[stuck heart]

??

[molten lotus]

it says woofer

that is your speaker

it doesn't represent your subwoofer

[stuck heart]

This is the manual for the subwoofer though?

[molten lotus]

https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fg%2FT9AAAOSw1M1j8nLQ%2Fs-l1600.jpg&sp=1687037630Tf2b462309973abf50d24325e17acff63a8cc267809fb8dc89d6298c7d0c34638

is this not your subwoofer

[stuck heart]

I have two subwoofers

[molten lotus]

oh

[stuck heart]

Sorry I should have made that clear

I do have that one but it’s daisy chained to the “main” subwoofer I have

[molten lotus]

right

[stuck heart]

That has speaker wire inputs

[molten lotus]

that one is alright

but im curious on how you will chain the other subwoofer

[stuck heart]

Using an RCA cable to the subwoofers output port

[molten lotus]

will the rca passthrough work with the speaker wires though

[topaz cypress]

This is on page 18 of your manual for the receiver: https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/319558/RX-V1600_e_U_.pdf

[stuck heart]

It does yes

[molten lotus]

no issues there then

[topaz cypress]

I would expect that to go to the "Line In" on the sub.

[molten lotus]

id also propose listening to the mooncaller

[stuck heart]

Yes, when I tried that it didn’t work unfortunately.

[molten lotus]

its a better idea to use the subwoofer in active mode

[topaz cypress]

Is your Yamaha configured for that as an output in its menu?

[stuck heart]

I believe so but the Yamaha menu is so cryptic I could really figure out how to just “enable” the RCA subwoofer output

[topaz cypress]

Starts on page 81.

[stuck heart]

Maybe I’ll try turning that on and see.. I have to go buy another RCA cable though so I’ll be back.

I swear last time I tried though nothing came out of the subwoofer no matter what I played or what level it was set to, sound only came out of the speakers

[topaz cypress]

From the troubleshoot section.

And then on the sub, to daisy chain, you go from Receiver Sub Out -> Sub Line In on Sub 1
Sub Line Out on Sub 1 -> Sub Line In on Sub 2

[stuck heart]

Thank you for this information. I will let you know what happens when I hook it up again when I get the RCA cable.

[stuck heart]

Okay I plugged the rca line in to the subwoofer port on the receiver

And nothing comes out of the subwoofers. I will try the troubleshooting in the receiver software

[stuck heart]

Okay so I set the subwoofer to both and not the front speakers. It still doesn’t output anything to the subwoofers.

Notice in the menu, I set to “both” and the LFE light comes on. But when I’m playing my music the LFE is off, and won’t output to the subwoofer.

Sorry I figured it out.

I shut off the speaker A output and now I can hear the subwoofers working with the RCA jacks if I set the bass out to “Both”

Thank you for your help with this. I appreciate it.

[proper marten]

Should I get the Creative Pebble Plus, which comes with 2.1 and a down firing subwoofer, the Creative Pebble 3.1 without a subwoofer, or just the 2.1?

[lean grove]

🤷

[topaz cypress]

Glad to hear it is working now!

[stuck heart]

Thank you again. In fact I think having it wired as a “speaker A and B” set made some sound information get lost since it was being sent to the subwoofers instead of the actual speakers.

So this is very good.

[topaz cypress]

Yeah, so the way the internals work is usually there is a low pass filter for the sub out.

And then a high-pass filter to the normal speaker outs.

Then, depending on the X-way speaker it is there may be some sort of band-pass and/or high-pass filtering going on at a crossover.

But the filtering does mean that the subs will not get the optimal info off the normal speaker outs, and vice versa.

[stuck heart]

I love that this receiver has two AC jacks so I can plug the subs in there and they all power off when I shut the receiver down

[stuck heart]

Yeah, I think overall it’s a more punchy bass with all of the mids and highs in tact

[hoary raven]

what's a good dynamic XLR mic for under $100 cad? I wanna use it for zoom calls for work and gaming

[weak rapids]

xm8500

If you want a broadcast style I have heard good things about the Zoom mic

[rotund pewter]

how good are the audioengine 2+ and S6 sub?

[molten lotus]

Can someone recommend good wireless headphones for less than 150 USD? I don't expect much from them besides having decent battery life and good noise cancellation

[dry stratus]

there aren't really good ANC headphones under 150

most ANC headphones are 200-400

and the cheaper ones are pretty bad for it

in ears more likely for that price if you want good ANC

[molten lotus]

ah, i understand, thanks

[dry stratus]

ofc it might be fine for you, but I wouldn't call good
would have to try it out

[molten lotus]

im specifically looking for headphones, don't have a good track record with in ears and earbuds

[dry stratus]

Have yet to find one that fits my ears

[molten lotus]

would you recommend the XB910N as a budget option?

[dry stratus]

I wouldn’t recommend sony headphones as a whole honestly

[molten lotus]

people were telling me to go for the xm4 but it didnt fit in my budget

[dry stratus]

Would take the qc45 over the xm4 myself

More balanced sound, cheaper and personally more comfortable

[molten lotus]

i'll go for them, i dont mind spending another 100 USD for headphones that can last me years

[slim mason]

Same, which is why I ended up buying the qc45

Or more specifically the qc se (its qc45 but with a worse case but I already had a real nice case for my old qc15 so win win)

[rotund pewter]

tryna find a good 2.1 speaker setup for my desk

[native sequoia]

whats the best way to get a decent quality speaker wire? mine is having issues and im looking for a replacement

[molten lotus]

wdym issues

its a copper string bro

[twin goblet]

I have a laptop with external monitor setup, I'm looking to buy some speakers https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-R1280T-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B016P9HJIA/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=edifier%2Br1280t&qid=1687096479&sprefix=edifier%2Caps%2C443&sr=8-3&th=1 can I use these ones with laptop? will I have to use some sort of adapter?

[molten lotus]

that will be fine

you can consider an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter if you'd like

since laptop 3.5s generally tend to be bad

[native sequoia]

basically i bought it on ebay kleinanzeigen and the seller said theres some issue with the wiring. 3 out of 5 boxes dont work anymore. dont know how else to troubleshoot it really

[molten lotus]

what

[twin goblet]

okay so they can be directly connected to 3.5?

[molten lotus]

yeah, with the appropriate cable

[native sequoia]

its a passive speaker setup, amp from yamaha and multiple boxes from multiple brands

[molten lotus]

its just a copper string my man

if the string is broken get another

it should cost like 3$ per 5 meters at most

[native sequoia]

where should i buy it? local store?

[molten lotus]

sure

i get mine at an electricity store

regular copper cable

they sell light bulbs and stuff

[native sequoia]

fair point

[molten lotus]

cable is generally so cheap its not profitable to sell it on amazon

unless its like 20 meters long

even then it has a steep price markup generally

[native sequoia]

yeah most stuff there is like 200 bucks a drum and thatd be major overkill

[molten lotus]

yeah

[twin goblet]

okay thanks man

[sick escarp]

does anyone have a good recommendation for a cheap audiobar. The ONLY feature I'm really interested in is audionormalization, so I can watch something at night at lower volume and still be able to understand dialogue. I'm not an audiophile, I don't want/need a 5k soundbar with 4 subwoofers and 1948 rear speakers built into my bedframe xD

[molten lotus]

audio normalization you can force with software if you are using a computer

and audio bars are like

[sick escarp]

yeah, but the minisforum minipc I got does not have an audiodriver, which supports it

[molten lotus]

generally bad, just a heads up

[sick escarp]

rn I'm using the on board speakers of a 15 yo grundig. I'm not picky

[molten lotus]

plausible, I don't know about that computer or linux which it presumably uses

fair

[sick escarp]

nah, it's windows. but the driver is a shitty intel one and it just doesn't have the option, I checked

[molten lotus]

just use a 3rd party software

[sick escarp]

any recommendations?

I failed to find one tbh

[molten lotus]

the best one is equalizer apo with reafir plugins but the interface is outdated so you might need to watch like a 10 minute tutorial on how it operates

basically after making eq apo work on the particular sound device you have selected, you add the reacomp plugin that is a part of the reaplugs vst plugin package

then you configure the reacomp through its interface which will not be linked to apo

[vast quarry]

how hard is it to move to another flat with these? they are probably a pain in the ass

[sick escarp]

gonna give it a shot! thanks

[molten lotus]

they are super thin so not difficult at all

[vast quarry]

ok

[molten lotus]

only issue is if they get damaged while moving

id not trust a soul to carry them

[vast quarry]

all im saying is that im really intrigued by the value, but i want to move to a flat soon and i worry it might be too hard to be worth

asking not for objective evaluation, just subjective judgement

[molten lotus]

https://www.stereophile.com/images/719maggie.side.jpg

[vast quarry]

i really wanna try em but im at an empass or whatever its called

[vast quarry]

wtf those are prolly horrible value

[molten lotus]

magnepans are amazing

well not all of them particularly

but they are amazing

[molten lotus]

oh shit i said something wrong

i thought you were replying to the magnepan post of nils

i didn't know you were talking about different speakers entirely

[vast quarry]

yeah thats why the reply

[molten lotus]

my bad lmao

[vast quarry]

those are some really heavy fucks and they have really good reception

but they are a) active and b) prolly not as mobile

[molten lotus]

they are tough though

if you secure the front drivers

against a wall or something

it would be difficult for them to get damaged while moving

[vast quarry]

again, asking for subjective opinions more or less. objectively smaller ones are much better to transport than bigger ones obviously

[vast quarry]

you got experience with the brand?

[molten lotus]

nah

[vast quarry]

cause nils was really shilling hard for the brand

[molten lotus]

my room is too shit to buy decent speakers

[vast quarry]

and he seems like a nice chap

[molten lotus]

nils is generally unbiased when approaching products, id say to take his word

[vast quarry]

i bought the oddyssey g7 bc someone told me i "should definitely get 2k 240hz for futureproofing"

so since then im a bit more skeptical of "guaranteed value"

[molten lotus]

2k 240hz

wtf

2k sure but like 240hz

what

[vast quarry]

exactly

[lean grove]

Well they have their weights and measurements listed. I'd imagine they take up a lot of space but I've got speakers that are as heavy and as big as mini fridges that I've moved across 5 different places.

[vast quarry]

hey its good but it costed me a quarter of my pc budget

[vast quarry]

fair

[lean grove]

When I move them I usually put a flat piece of cardboard over the front so nothing pokes a hole through the woofers.

Lay them on their back

[vast quarry]

my brother told me they are def not worth it, but i love doing weird shit, especcially if the payoff is good

[molten lotus]

i dislike people who can't evaluate others values

because everyone should know my values are better than theirs

[lean grove]

The mmgs I had up need a tweeter.

I low-key wanna get an lrs now

[molten lotus]

:(

[vast quarry]

fuck it ill just buy em and cry later i think

i am just so fucking curious

and i blame you nils with your masterful convincing tactics

[lean grove]

I literally said "I don't know anyone's that's tried these but they're cheap where you are"

But lemme know what you think when you get them

[molten lotus]

we can kill nils together bro

[vast quarry]

stop doing it or ill buy another pair

[molten lotus]

ive been meaning on doing a home raid for some time

[vast quarry]

i will probably regret this choice XD

[white gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnGjZt3KBQE

[vast quarry]

the pact is sealed

[molten lotus]

did you get cables

[vast quarry]

its an active set, i dont need cables

unless you mean cables for my pc

in that case i got some spare

[molten lotus]

for connecting them to your pc

[vast quarry]

yeah i got those

i think they use the weird smooth ones

got some in my attic if they arent too old

[lean grove]

yo dude thats got your full name on address on the order

you might wanna delete that

[vast quarry]

thanks man

god that was really stupid of me

i live in a room where my door is the "weakpoint" when it comes to noise cancellation. does it make any difference to point the speakers away from the door, either for bass as well as for general loudness?

and does it make sense to add noise cancellation foam to the door? or would that be overkill

[lean grove]

i add weather foam around my door and it does help

and pointing it away from your door will help a little bit

but bass is the hardest to control

bass will go in every direction and will pass through things the easiest

[vast quarry]

yeah thats my main concern

especcially once im moving

never heard of "weather foam" before, ill look into it - thanks

[molten lotus]

meat is back on the menu

[vast quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-meme-stare-staring-gif-27529560

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-nervous-gulp-cat-gulp-strange-cat-gif-26244540

[lilac rain]

should i get open ear or closed ear headphones, i can't decide on which

[dry stratus]

the fact you cannot decide means you have no need for closed

in that case its obviously open

because there are barely any closed that aren't trash to begin with...

[lilac rain]

im between the dt 990 pros and the 770 pros

[dry stratus]

get 880 then

990 is just a worse 880

[lilac rain]

ok

[dry stratus]

only difference is just 990 has the same issues as 880 but more severe

[lilac rain]

got it

[dry stratus]

or just get something not beyer ofc

[unique wind]

sennheiser hd560s > 770/880/990 if it's available where you live for a similar price

[dry stratus]

880 > 990 > 770

[unique wind]

anyone want my practically mint condition 770s?

nun wrong wit em i just dont like em

[dry stratus]

how about 1 cent?

[unique wind]

[dry stratus]

10$?

true value, because I would take KSC75 over it

[unique wind]

i wouldnt

ksc75 is extraordinarily bright

[dry stratus]

not really

brighter than neutral, but not that bad

[unique wind]

pretty bright

probably depends very heavily on your own head and ears though being what it is

[dry stratus]

can bend them a lot, so...

they should count as earphones

[unique wind]

me critiquing frequency response as i use the speakers built into my monitor

which sound substantially worse than even phone speakers

[dry stratus]

ksc75 should be considered earphones because they don't interact with anything on than your ears
weird calling them headphones when they don't even touch the head

only earphone that stays on my ears

[unique wind]

on-earphones

[unique wind]

theyre made specifically for you

bass rolloff and they fit your ears

you just need wireless ksc75

[dry stratus]

mod them and put a UTWS on it

would look so weird

having 2 clips on it

[unique wind]

it would be pretty cool

[gaunt solstice]

anyone have any good recomendations for bluetooth headphones?
dont need mic on them

[steel escarp]

@gaunt solstice are you gonna use them for gaming

[gaunt solstice]

yes

[steel escarp]

audeze maxwell

[lilac rain]

32 ohm or 80 ohm headphones for plugging directly into pc?

[steel escarp]

well, audeze maxwell if you got 400 euros to spent

they are cheaper in the usa iirc

330

[gentle quiver]

anyone got some reccomendation for headphones no mic want something like the creative aurora live ones i have currently budget is below £100

would honestly just rebuy them but theyre like £30 more than what i got them for

preferably wireless

[lilac rain]

im not sure if my pc will be able to power 80 ohm or not

[unique wind]

if you have a newer decent motherboard it should work fine

[lilac rain]

alr thanks

[gentle gate]

does optical audio suck

[unique wind]

nah

i use optical for my tv setup

[gentle gate]

same. Just heard a lot of people say it's just about the worst connection for audio or something like that

[lean grove]

It depends on the DAC but generally yeah it is the worst.

Doesn't mean it sucks though

[gentle gate]

Using it myself and I think it sounds just fine

[unique wind]

the issue is that DAC manufacturers usually implement it poorly and the connection will be noisier than usb or have jitter

it's rarely audible but it is annoying because there's no reason for it to be that way

doubly annoying when optical and hdmi earc are your only options with modern tvs

unless you use a home theater pc and connect your audio to the pc directly but that's not what most people do

[mild quail]

So

Question

I have a 5800X on a B550 mobo. No iGPU. Could I still use HDMI from the mobo for arc sound?

[unique wind]

i think youre supposed to use hdmi out of your dedicated gpu

with no igpu your display outs on the motherboard are inactive anyway

i dont think theyd work for anything, even audio passthrough

[haughty girder]

nope, your igpu passes through audio as a virtual audio device, without igpu the HDMI is completely useless

[mild quail]

I do, for display

[mild quail]

Darn. So would I use the GPU for arc then?

Or do I do a full system overhaul lol

[haughty girder]

dedicated GPU yes

[unique wind]

[brazen remnant]

USB is more than fine enough, optical can cause some weird problems, and really, in general, solves nothing

[brazen remnant]

I-

damn

if I ever get to a point in life where I'm willing to overhaul my computer just because I want arc sound

[gentle quiver]

anyone know?

[brazen remnant]

have to be headphones? or you willing to try IEMs

[steel escarp]

TL;DR giving headphone advice be like:

• someone asks for advice
• you give them the best option
• they completely ignore it and bring up 5 other cheaper options
• start making excuses to not get what you recommend
• don't even try to find fault in the headphones they bring up instead of what you recommended
• refuse to try anything out to form a personal opinion so nothing gets compared.
• buy shit headphones in the end

[unique wind]

wdym i cant have wireless headphones with perfect noise cancelling and frequency response, along with all-day battery life and zero latency for $50?

[brazen remnant]

I felt that

I've been on both ends tbh

ended up with me buying KZ once, and then making the same mistake twice 👍

[brazen remnant]

hold on hold on. I found these noname headphones on the 3rd page of Amazon listings for while sorting from price low to high, you think I should buy these?

idk man they have RGB, clearly makes up for everything else, right?

[unique wind]

yeah seems like a solid buy

[gentle quiver]

what are iems

[brazen remnant]

fancy earbuds

[gentle quiver]

are they like the heaphone earbud hydrid thingy

[brazen remnant]

no not hybrids

[gentle quiver]

oh no i not want that

[steel escarp]

IEMs are the earspeakers that have rubber/foam tips that insert into your ear

[brazen remnant]

fancy earbuds that I and others call IEMs to differentiate ourselves from consumer earbuds because we're ✨ special ✨

[gentle quiver]

id prefer having normal headphones

[steel escarp]

Earbuds don't have eartips and just sit in your auricle

[brazen remnant]

earspeakers technically has a different definition, but I think I get what u mean

[steel escarp]

I guess earphones is the proper word

To group IEMs and earbuds

[brazen remnant]

these be earspeakers. you can thank stax for their cursed creation and muddying of definitions

[brazen remnant]

oh yeah that's the word

[brazen remnant]

but yeah, you'd definitely be able to get IEMs that sound better than headphones under 100

[gentle quiver]

ye but i dont want iems lol

[brazen remnant]

hell, I could find IEMs at 50 USD that probably beat 100 USD headphones

hmm fair enough

[steel escarp]

20 euro IEMs beat 100 euro headphones lol

[unique wind]

i thought zeos coined the term earspeakers

[brazen remnant]

I do know some people really don't like their ear holes being poked into by foreign objects. that's understandable

[steel escarp]

I watch zeos, must have affected my wording

[brazen remnant]

wait who is zeos?

[steel escarp]

Zreviews

[unique wind]

z reviews

[brazen remnant]

oh

I don't watch that channel

[unique wind]

im pretty sure he says that hes the one that came up with calling stax earspeakers

[steel escarp]

The fat Italian weeb

[lean grove]

Sugma

[brazen remnant]

I uhh... used to be in a server filled to the brim with stax users,

[lean grove]

Red flag

[steel escarp]

Were they all racist?

[unique wind]

stax users be like mmm glorified ksc75 tuning is so good

[gentle quiver]

[brazen remnant]

left the server years ago due to, well... stax users

[mild quail]

was a joke but im getting bored of it anyway

I’m not gonna do it

[brazen remnant]

ah fair

[steel escarp]

The cheap stax headphones are pretty good tbh

[brazen remnant]

yeah that's fair tbh

[steel escarp]

Compared to other stuff for the price

But the energizer cost

[brazen remnant]

wait there's cheap stax?

[unique wind]

just wait like two years and topping will have a $200 energizer that performs very well

[mild quail]

My optical audio is being weird and I don’t want to mess with usb

[brazen remnant]

I do know there's like- unobtanium stax earphones. I used to want to get some for funsies, but idk

[gentle quiver]

[mild quail]

Might actually swap motherboards but idk

[steel escarp]

stax sr-l300

[lean grove]

used stax are pretty common. you can snag some sr-5's with an energizer for like 200-300

[brazen remnant]

what is driving the sound on your setup? speakers? TV?

[lean grove]

you just gotta be smart and patient. and maybe use yahoo auctions

[brazen remnant]

yahoo auctions...

[gentle quiver]

yahoo!

[brazen remnant]

that's something I haven't heard in a while

[mild quail]

AV receiver into speakers

[steel escarp]

Thr sr-l300 were a bit intense to listen to

[lean grove]

its the best place to source cheap stax

[brazen remnant]

ah fair

[steel escarp]

Due to shout and upper treble

[unique wind]

i didnt know yahoo had an auction

[gentle quiver]

has yahoo gone bankrupt or something i havent seen them in ages

i didnt know yahoo still existed

[steel escarp]

Tho I wasn't too bothered by the 1kHz shout

[brazen remnant]

speaking of yahoo, I should check yahoo for stuffs in there, I completely forgot about yahoo auctions

[steel escarp]

I want to buy a fiio ft3 so badly

But I have edition xs

So it'd be worse

[mild quail]

maybe I just do what people tell me not to do and buy a sound card

[unique wind]

do not

[steel escarp]

I heard the ft3 is a downgrade from the meze 109 pro. And I really was not impressed by the 109

[brazen remnant]

I've been considering upgrading from Truthear Zeros to Hexas myself tbh. the cables all messed up already, and I'm too lazy to replace the cable + probably not worth replacing for a 50 dollar IEM

[unique wind]

you can tell exactly what itll sound like by looking at its graph

[steel escarp]

Meze 109 pro sounds like how 400 euros is supposed to sound

[gentle quiver]

pssst i still want headpones any reccomendations?

[unique wind]

idk any headphones under 100 euro

recommendations really start at like 150

[steel escarp]

Agree

[brazen remnant]

literally anything that doesn't burst up into flames. I don't think I know many good headphones at that price.

[gentle quiver]

lol most of the headphones ive had were under 70

the ones i had were very good

[brazen remnant]

well, I do, but 99% sure you wouldn't like it, and they're meme-tier looking

[unique wind]

the quality jump from 100 to 150 euro is massive

[gentle quiver]

and they were only 60

[brazen remnant]

speaking of which, if I do upgrade, what's the best way I can display my old IEMs? I'm thinking of 3D printing a stand for my old IEMs, they just look to gorgeous to simply keep hidden/stored somewhere, so I just think I want to keep them on a stand

[lean grove]

akg k361, k361, and pc37x are gonna be the headphones you wanna look at as a step-up from the creative aurvanas

[unique wind]

put them in a drawer and forget about them

[brazen remnant]

I was thinking porta pros, I keep hearing people praising it or some shit, but not sure myself.

[gentle quiver]

hmm thanks ill probably try k361s

[brazen remnant]

:(

[lean grove]

porta pros are good, but i think exo should get an upgrade, not a side-grade

[gentle quiver]

what about at 150 what would you guys reccomend

[brazen remnant]

Sennheiser HE58X

I think that should be 150 USD off drop.com?

but nvm, don't

[unique wind]

sennheiser hd560s

[gentle quiver]

i am pound man

£

[unique wind]

no i am pound man

[brazen remnant]

560s might be more fitting

but not sure if they're drivable without a dac/amp

[unique wind]

they r

[gentle quiver]

what about wireless

cant break a cable when theres no cable

whats a dac/amp

[unique wind]

dac (digital to analog converter) takes the music from your computer and turns it into an electrical signal

amplifier makes that signal louder

signal tells your headphones how to make sound

[rotund pewter]

well i guess i shouldnt ask for recommendations

[unique wind]

yep

[rotund pewter]

[gentle quiver]

o.o

[brazen remnant]

sorry imma be the "ackshually 🤓" person right now, but the charger cable counts as well

wireless, not sure

don't know much bout wireless headphones other than Sony's XM lineup

[unique wind]

i dont keep up with wireless headphones

[gentle quiver]

i still need to buy speakers lol my monitor has no audio

[brazen remnant]

anyone know if the hexa has proper crossover filter for the DD driver? friend told me the ones I have have one, and apparently that literally makes one of the drivers act like a subwoofer. so I'm wondering whether the Hexa have it as well.

[gentle quiver]

sony's XM is definetly not 150

[brazen remnant]

Also, does it even bother using filters for the BA drivers?

[unique wind]

pretty sure all multiple driver iems have to have crossovers

[brazen remnant]

hence the don't know part where I didn't recommend anything because the XM's are out of budget

[brazen remnant]

apparently some companies cough cough KZ cough cough just jam them full of BAs and don't bother using crossover filters. or some shit like that iirc

[unique wind]

i think the debacle with KZ is that they put drivers in there but they were literally inactive

as in they did nothing it was just for show

that or they straight up werent there at all

[gentle quiver]

is there a headphone comparing site?

[brazen remnant]

I'm saying that from memory though, and my memory is as reliable as an Audi car being driven by a Cali driver that barely passed the drivers license test.

[brazen remnant]

I see i see

I rember some shit like that yeah

[brazen remnant]

no

[gentle quiver]

oof

[brazen remnant]

there is nothinf to compare between headphones

[gentle quiver]

all the posts about the top wireless headphones in 2023 probably have alot of bias

[brazen remnant]

yup

[gentle quiver]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N0Z35SH/?tag=gcnuk-21&ascsubtag=1687122611435_90719_finalcheck-co-uk_prod-004_014_004-B01N0Z35SH-6-desktop&SubscriptionId=AKIAJVUPSJCDVOD2J2GA&linkCode=ogi these dont look awful

[brazen remnant]

can see them working for you, sure, give it a try

[gentle quiver]

do these look any better? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soundcore-Cancelling-Headphones-Multiple-Bluetooth-Black/dp/B08HMWZBXC/ref=sr_1_7_sspa?keywords=wireless+headphones&qid=1687122924&refinements=p_72%3A419153031&rnid=419152031&sr=8-7-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&psc=1

[brazen remnant]

if you want noise canceling, sure.

[gentle quiver]

eh probably will go with the sony ones

any speaker reccomendations? i dont need anything fancy just something to use whilst headpones are rechargin

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FSF2OSS?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1 was gonna get this

[haughty girder]

I would tell you those are dogshit but you also told me you know more than me

[gentle quiver]

what when did i say that

[haughty girder]

literally everything you asked abt is consumer garbage

[gentle quiver]

ok

[steel escarp]

33 pounds

[gentle quiver]

that is why i asked

[steel escarp]

At that price it doesn't matter how they sound

[gentle quiver]

oh that lol

[haughty girder]

Creative pebbles are better

[steel escarp]

I have some creative T10 speakers that are 25 years old

[haughty girder]

basically BIS at that pricev

Those logitechs uh

the top driver is fake

[gentle quiver]

idek what a top driver is lol

[weak rapids]

Ive ran these

If you just want cheap speakers that work then sure

[gentle quiver]

goood

[haughty girder]

but because it's basically a passive radiator, it also shakes and given enclosed, as just as much as the main driver

[weak rapids]

But if you want something that sounds good stay away

They are as good as car speakers

[weak rapids]

Top driver would be the top speaker

[gentle quiver]

oh i thought there was only 2

[weak rapids]

Yes

[steel escarp]

Why not get a small portable jbl speaker

[weak rapids]

You see the 2 circles on them

The top one is the top driver

[haughty girder]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Creative-USB-Powered-Down-Firing-Subwoofer-Far-Field/dp/B07NYS5TTT/

[weak rapids]

Thats probably fake and actually has nothing behind it

[haughty girder]

oh gee

you can get the pebble plus for that price

[gentle quiver]

ohhh

[weak rapids]

Its a commonly used tactic even by notable brands to fool speaker amateurs

[steel escarp]

I still regret spending 900 on a speaker setup

When my room was really bad for accoustics

50 euro speakers would have been better

[gentle quiver]

you should spend 10 euro on cable management

[weak rapids]

Id probably only ever use speakers if im watching a movie on my PC which I rarely do or am playing a game thats sound is useless which is also rare

[unique wind]

speakers r so nice tho

[weak rapids]

Cable management is for the weak

[steel escarp]

The speakers and cables are gone

[weak rapids]

You are never done upgrading and changing, cable management will make it harder to replace and move cables

[steel escarp]

Nothing more permanent as a temporary solution

[weak rapids]

Yep

Also how do people use chairs without armrests

[steel escarp]

Mine has armwrests

[unique wind]

they put their arms on the desk

[steel escarp]

I just removed them

[unique wind]

i dont use my arm rests

[gentle quiver]

ngl most of the time i use my desk as arm rests as i got a corner desk

[weak rapids]

How far forward is your keyboard

[steel escarp]

My headphone cable got caught behind it too much

[weak rapids]

Only my hands and wrists are on my desk

Rest of my arms are on my chair

[unique wind]

im usually up to my elbow on my desk

[weak rapids]

Bruh wth

Sloth gesture over here

[steel escarp]

I flinged my 500 euro headphones across the room because my cable got caught behind the armrest

[unique wind]

i cant use my chair armrest

if i set my chair high enough to where my armrests are level with the desk then my feet dangle hella

and my monitor will be really low

[weak rapids]

Man i gotta see your setup lol

[steel escarp]

I can't even touch the ground with my feet

[unique wind]

i have my chair low enough to where i touch the ground, but that renders my arm rests unusable

[steel escarp]

I got this chair as a gift but it doesn't go far down enough

Being 169cm tall is a curse

[weak rapids]

Im just imagining peter dinklage playing games lol

[lean grove]

how much do you wanna spend. because good 2.1 setups can get up in the thousands.

[rotund pewter]

i just said stuff it and bought pebble v3 for 50 because i figured ill wait and see what options are available in like 2 years

[lean grove]

okay

[rotund pewter]

i did ask about the audio engine 2+ and S6 combo

[lean grove]

im kinda iffy on audio engine. they're built cheaply and don't do bass correctly for their speakers. sub might fix that. but edifier is more trust worthy in that department.

[rotund pewter]

and pretty much downgrading from the 3.1 setup bc having the amplifier and speakers was much of a hassle and waste of space

[lean grove]

yeah 3.1 for desktop doesnt make sense

[rotund pewter]

they were klipsch hd theatre 500 5.1 speakers

[lean grove]

interesting.

[rotund pewter]

theres also a bunch of edifier speakers idk which one to choose from under like idk $100 aud

[lean grove]

under $100 aud is very cheap for speakers. creative pebbles are the only ones id recommend for that price

[haughty girder]

you might be able to strike a deal for 1280db MAYBE

[lean grove]

open box yeah

or used

[haughty girder]

in which case I'd get those instead

if you can't, Pebbles v3 or Pebbles plus (v2 with a sub) are both the best options

[rotund pewter]

those like top tier of edifier speakers?

[lean grove]

1280db are the entry level

[rotund pewter]

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/edifier-r1280db-20-studio-speakers-with-bluetoothoptical-input-brown-ac09379

[lean grove]

that is them

[rotund pewter]

yeah 50 bucks extra wouldnt hurt

if teh bass is that good

[lean grove]

the smaller the speaker, the harder it is for it to do bass correctly

so the 1280 should be a lot fuller sounding and also be able to get way louder

[haughty girder]

which it does

[brazen remnant]

tbh, at that point, probably more worth it to get headphones, don't'cha think?

[stuck heart]

Well my dad just gave me a set of Sony speakers with receiver, remote and all the cables. Probably going to hook it up to my friends record player and see how it sounds

[quick egret]

does any1 know if a Bose SoundLink Flex can connect wired to a bluetoothless computer (thru audio jack or sum)

[ebon tapir]

rate my sound profile....

[weak rapids]

rate my song

[ebon tapir]

Im sorry i dont understand 128p

[lean grove]

maybe a 3

[ebon tapir]

i like reverb....

[lean grove]

oh in that case two

[weak rapids]

I think one is a better rank

[ebon tapir]

i mean it makes the music i listen to sound way better (country)... nothing modern just slow singing usally just one guitar

[glad creek]

So does the audeze Maxwell lives up to real hifi headphones?

[lean grove]

As far as a $300 closed back headphone can

[glad creek]

So it does

[lean grove]

Sure

[glad creek]

Nice, maybe I'll buy one

I've looked at the rtings measurements but didn't know if rtings was as good as ASR for measurements

[lean grove]

Rtings is better than nothing but their measurements are not the best

[glad creek]

Btw is there anyone here that made a home theater without dedicated AVR ? By that I mean stuff from miniDSP, multichannels dacs, multiple stereo amplifiers or multichannels amps etc ... Stuff like that, it's basically separating each components of an AVR to get better hardware for each (better dac and better amp)

There are a lot of possibilities, and it's hard to know the best one

[lean grove]

Asr has problems too. Amir doesn't know how to fully seal a headphone and publishes the data with breeched seals.

[glad creek]

Ok ok

Seems really good enough for what i want anyway
I prefer speakers anyway and I already have two hd600s for good headphone audio

[haughty girder]

the measurement that covers how a beach in seal would change sound actually helps with rtings

ASR doesn't do this

issue is rtings uses an HMS

That few others use

[dry stratus]

I personally use rtings to compare consumer products mostly as most others don't have a lot of consumer audio devices
should in no way compare across sites so its the only real way, like comparing it to N700NC or QC35II/45

most of the sites only have audiophile or like 1000xm4, airpods pro, etc

[glad creek]

Whatever the stuff tested (not forcefully audio gear) I never ever compare cross sites

[livid rapids]

Suggest me good headphones with mic under 150$

[tepid torrent]

Ksc75 drop version

[dry stratus]

is that mic even usable

[tepid torrent]

Oh right you gotta press it

Portapro communications

[livid rapids]

I need them to be ULTRA comfortable

Like for atleast 12hrs continuously

And blutooth if possible

[gentle quiver]

damn theres wireless headphones that have a battery life of 12 hours?

[livid rapids]

No its a exaggerated statement

I just mean it should be super comfortable

[dry stratus]

Don’t they all have 20-40 hours battery life anyway

[uneven pumice]

what device do i need o use the speaker of my alexa and my aux speaker at same time

[gentle quiver]

i always thought headphones would have sub 10 hours

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PRHSZ5Z?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 are these good for the price ?

[dry stratus]

Sennheiser + closed back = bad

For some reason they always f em up

[gentle quiver]

closed back?

[nova wagon]

you see the earcups?
sits inside is the driver

and the back of the driver is facing the outer shell of the earcups

closed obviously mean that shell piece is well, closed, which means air cant move in and out of the driver

open is the opposite, that back piece is not solid, so air can move in and out as they please

[dry stratus]

Closed just ends up f’in up sound in most cases.. some are fine but most just end up with issues

[weak rapids]

If you want wireless I think generally its agreed that the audeze maxwell would be your best bet

[glad creek]

Best real 150W@8 Ohms 6 channels power amplifier without dac ?

[gentle quiver]

these ?

[lean grove]

That is them

[weak rapids]

Yep

[gentle quiver]

my budget no like but ig since theyre the best i might aswell save up for them

80 hour battery life jesus

[lean grove]

Check out emotiva or adcom. And they both have pretty healthy used markets. But idk if they're the "best"

[glad creek]

They aren't that great

Pretty sure it costs more than 2k even diy to get a 105dB sinad with 150w@8 ohms for 6 channels

[unique wind]

probly

150w into 6 channels simultaneously is a shitload of power

[lean grove]

If you're concerned about sinad there's a handy dandy list on asr detailing a few amps which fit your bill

I'm thinking you're gonna need to stuff a bunch of purifi or hypex amps in a box.

Which might already exist as a product, idk.

[glad creek]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too indeed, bunch of hypex/purifi amps

But maybe 150w is too much, or maybe I should get 150w only for the two main channels idk

I have a Denon AVR x3700h that starts to clip at 100W on 8 ohms and I think that I sometimes get to this ?

[lean grove]

What speakers are you using

[unique wind]

powering your L/C/R is the most important

i dont think you need 150w for the rear surrounds

[lean grove]

I'd say just use more efficient speakers.

[glad creek]

89.5db/w/m, aria 906

I should find a battery for my dbmeter and measure at how much db I listen on my different listening position

Sometimes it's quite far because I'm not in front of them

[unique wind]

local man discovers audiophiliac youtube

[tepid torrent]

Word salad

“Timbre? Whats that”

[unique wind]

the comment was on a josh valour video so he’s probably right

i didn’t watch the video myself but josh just rambles about nothing usually

i might watch the video because it’s about q acoustics which i think are cool

[haughty girder]

12 is pretty low for normal consumer bt headphones

[gentle quiver]

idk i never had wireless headphones

apparently those ones had 80 hours which is insane

[glad creek]

Not with Bluetooth I guess

Bt is way more demanding than rf wireless with a dongle, which I think that the audeze Maxwell posseses ?

[weak rapids]

Then there the cloud 2 wireless with like 2000 hours

[glad creek]

And shit sound

[steel escarp]

joshua valour saying: "the attention to the exterior detail is pretty high for the price"
like bro, I don't even see any detail on these speakers

[tepid torrent]

What happens when you base your reviews on how much the company paid you

[weak rapids]

Yep

[glad creek]

How are focal aria 906 seen as where you guys are at ?

I'm french and people like focal here, also it's cheaper, so how i see them is biased

[steel escarp]

they have some small imperfections in the sound but are okay overall

[lean grove]

Focal speakers are seen as high end. I haven't done much research into them.

Golden one is a mod here and he's got a pair in his listening room

[steel escarp]

realistically your room is gonna matter more

[unique wind]

i kinda want a pair of nht super zeros for my desk

[steel escarp]

I want a new room 💀

[unique wind]

and i’ll plug 100hz dumb high pass filters in them

sealed and produces nothing below 100hz anyway

should be pretty room and desk friendly

[unique wind]

real

[steel escarp]

nah it aint good enough unless you have a subwoofer that can be heard from 3 blocks away

its hard to crank speakers if you don't have a detached house

[unique wind]

i have a detached house and can run my sub at 100db all day if i want to

it’s not plugged up tho i don’t really have room for it with my air conditioner in the window

[steel escarp]

getting speakers for a desk is gonna give you reflections, if I were to get new ones I'd get them for the living room

no weird bass peaks

[unique wind]

yeah it’s not ideal but i don’t like wearing headphones all the time

[steel escarp]

headphones are more ideal with a dual monitor setup

[unique wind]

i run single monitor atm

[steel escarp]

how even

[lean grove]

https://ascendacoustics.com/collections/b-stock/products/cbm-170se-b-stock-pair?variant=40086138978358

Get these

[unique wind]

i went from triple to double to single

[glad creek]

Same but it's already new ...

[steel escarp]

I wouldn't mind these sort of things for the desk

[unique wind]

the only time i miss having a second monitor is when i’m playing a game in full screen and want to be able to see discord

but i very rarely game

[steel escarp]

for productivity I need 2 monitors

[unique wind]

for sure

[glad creek]

Tiling windows manager and heavy keyboard use and 4k monitor = no need for 2 monitors

[unique wind]

[unique wind]

real

i just use one 27” 4k panel and it’s fine except for when i game full screen

[glad creek]

It may be cool sometimes but having two monitors is super annoying... (Even if it's what i have lmao)

I want a 5k2k oled monitor and that's it

[unique wind]

those cbm speakers are so thick and cubic

i can’t stand curved monitors but i wouldn’t mind a flat 34” ultra wide

i have the alienware qd oled but don’t use it often because the curve drives me insane

[glad creek]

I got used to it

But all those screens are just 1440p...

[unique wind]

@lean grove 😨

trying to break the sound barrier?

that’d be so loud

[glad creek]

Cbm speaker?

[unique wind]

yah the cbms that he sent

200w rms 400w peak would be so fuckin loud

[weak rapids]

Nils prob used Beyerdynamic and has bad hearing

[unique wind]

naw nils is a top g

[lean grove]

Check the measurements tab

[glad creek]

That's 107dB spl at 4 meters

[lean grove]

Nils uses hd414s.

[unique wind]

i want to hear klipsch lascalas or jubilees at high volume

extremely high sensitivity and high power handling

it must be nuts

[glad creek]

I mean that's there measurements , are they trustworthy

[lean grove]

It's not Klippel no. But their other speakers use Klippel and have a pretty similar result.

[glad creek]

The microphone isn't enough to know if it's trustworthy

[unique wind]

send a pair to my man erin's audio corner

[lean grove]

He's said that he doesn't have much interest in reviewing speakers that already have Klippel data

Even if it's from the manufacturer

[unique wind]

erin said my jamo c93ii's are poop : (

because they have a 3db treble shelf

i knew that before buying them anyway i just wanted them because theyre pretty

[lean grove]

Get rekt

[unique wind]

i might buy a second aiyima t9

havent had any issues with the one ive had for a year and i need a second little amp

[gentle quiver]

get rekt

[unique wind]

rekt

[lean grove]

💀

Buy my adcom

[unique wind]

☠️

adcom wat

[lean grove]

Adcom gfa 535 mk2

[unique wind]

no thx

[lean grove]

😔

[unique wind]

[lean grove]

Buy something good

[unique wind]

mmm

my room is too dangerous i dont want to get nice stuff

ive killed numerous pieces of audio gear with static discharge

[glad creek]

Wtf

[lean grove]

Just don't touch things then.

I had that problem with my keyboard. I had to ground it to my desk.

Every time I zapped it, it would turn off and reset my speakers so they played at full volume.

[weak rapids]

Mans chair is made out of carpet

[unique wind]

yeah thats not really an option

i kid you not i killed my magnius by touching my headphone cable

i killed my dbx 286s by touching the windscreen on my sm57

ill just keep using cheap stuff until my room isnt a hellzone for electronics

thick padded carpet, thick blackout curtains, fabric everywhere, air conditioner running 24/7 so it's always dehumidified

[glad creek]

My magni died alone so ...

And buy and humidifier

[unique wind]

f

ive had stuff die while i slept and didnt touch it too

fiio utws5 saved my life

runs all my iems and headphones without a problem and i use spotify anyway so bluetooth bandwidth isnt a problem

[glad creek]

I mean it's usable but high gain is dead and whenever I touch the volume knob it's not leveled anymore (left/right..) and it makes me wonder if audio performance is any good with this much damage...

[dense ermine]

Audient iD4 any good?

Kinda wish I could find something that had flat top and bottom, but I REALLY need something that doesn't hiss at me 24/7 anymore

[glad creek]

No

For what use ?

You should stop looking at lamp stuff they are 99% of the case horrendously bad

Good stuff don't hiss, if you hear hissing then you either have bought a really bad dac and amp or your headphones/speakers are bad or broken

For example you'll never hear any hissing coming from any topping stuff, it's litteraly physically impossible, it's just transparent, so if there is hissing then it's in the source material or your headphones/speaker

And you could still always eq a bit down the 8-9 Khz range

But lamp stuff are notorious for having really bad performance mainly due to distorsion
They look shiny and vintage so people go to them ...

[lean grove]

What's your use case.

[dense ermine]

Desktop use

have a shitty xlr mic that I am eventually gonna upgrade as well

[molten lotus]

hi so im trying to connect my bluetooth headphones to my pc, it says connected but no devices show or play any sound in the playback tab ive tried many ways from reinstlaling the intel bluetooth driver, to enabling the hd audio from my bios, but nothing is working it only works when i connect my headphones through a usb cable. this has worked perfectly fine b4 but idk why its not working anymore. can someone plz help me? Thanks.

[dense ermine]

Need an interface because 100% require the direct monitor feature or w/e its called

[molten lotus]

now i can even seem to install realtek drivers. gives me an error

[dense ermine]

as for this, it is like a 7 year old cheap ass at the time interface, so thats why its hissing

Other discord recommended motu m2

[lean grove]

Check out options from MOTU.

Oh yeah

The Apollo is an mkbhd meme.

Motu is just objectively good.

[dense ermine]

Thanks

[somber shuttle]

thoughts about this combo. Mojo 2 and ie600

[unique wind]

is that your stuff or are you asking if it would be worth buying

[somber shuttle]

My stuff.

[dense ermine]

cast iron earbuds 💦

[somber shuttle]

Aparently they are 3d printed

[dense ermine]

metal 3d prit?

[somber shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHQBITVAv4

[rocky trail]

those look like they have the frequency response of a box of tissues

[glad creek]

The Mojo is one of the worst audio gear I ever heard

[lean grove]

Cost about the same too.

[rocky trail]

yikes

[lean grove]

That's good though.

They're cheap.

[rocky trail]

If they cost anything beyond around 10 bucks I'll pass, I could get better speakers at goodwill for less

[glad creek]

Better to sound AND cost the same as a box of tissue than sound the same and costing 100x more

[somber shuttle]

Lol what? 😄

[glad creek]

I am serious, the ie600 I like too

[lean grove]

They're usually around 20-40. Its better than Logitech and the answer to "I want speakers for $50."

Which, cheap speakers from goodwill could easily be worse for more money.

[somber shuttle]

this one i wanna hear

[rocky trail]

true, goodwill is more like a lottery than an actual place to shop

i've had some amazing finds from there though

[glad creek]

I mean maybe the one I tested was broken or smth I don't know... It should not sound that bad, it's not state of the art but far above shit-tier theoritically so idk ...

Also it was in 2017 maybe that i tested it

[rocky trail]

but also, if you spend just $40 more, you'll get a LOT more bang for your buck

this'll let you upgrade the speakers down the future

[somber shuttle]

You tested mojo 1. Mojo 2 was not out back then.

[glad creek]

True but what i said still applies, it shouldn't have sounded that bad

So idk

[somber shuttle]

I'd say you tested a broken or defective one

[glad creek]

I remember that I had just tested the meze 99 and that it was my single worst experience in audio ever so it may have hindered my appreciation lmao

[rocky trail]

isn't meze like way overhyped by dankpods

[glad creek]

What's dankpods

[rocky trail]

youtuber who swears by meze headphones

[glad creek]

Is that someone or a group of persons that call themselves line that

Oh

[rocky trail]

they're an australian youtuber who started off with ipod videos but expanded to general audio stuff

[glad creek]

Well idk him and he must receive huge money to have the audacity of saying those are good

[rocky trail]

what was so bad about them?

i dont like meze either but for 300 they must have something going for them

[glad creek]

It was so mushyyyyy

[rocky trail]

like bad highs?

hmmm

[glad creek]

Like it's just a freaking subwoofer that's all

[rocky trail]

bruh

[glad creek]

But subwoofer with huge distortion

[lean grove]

💀 yeah idk about those covo s's

[rocky trail]

distortion??? what amp did you use with them

[rocky trail]

well the goal was cheap not good

[glad creek]

Basses are good when they are deep and low distorsion

Topping l50

I mean I'm used to super chard and deep basses from ortho or electro

That's what I like most

[rocky trail]

hmmmmm

thats strange

[lean grove]

Well when you say "more bang for your buck" and it's twice as much money for probably a similar level of bang, then idk what you're trying to say.

[rocky trail]

okay i give up lmao

[glad creek]

And this meze 99 is just way too much, like everything feels muted with this much bass and mushiness

[rocky trail]

the idea was that you weren't limited to the speakers having a built in amp

but also tbh, with some eq the covo s won't be any worse than the tissue box speakers

a little bit of eq can go a long way on anything that makes sound

[glad creek]

Imo for cheap stuff it's better to either get used stuff or go integrated amps because the amp you'll buy will be dogshit anyway and not worth keeping when upgrading

[rocky trail]

well if you really wanna push your luck you can probably find a pretty good yamaha receiver at goodwill for less than 30$

it'll be a fantastic starter amp

[glad creek]

Yeah there are so many used speaker and Avr on the second hand market

[rocky trail]

its honestly sweet

both of my setups are like 90% used shit and i love them to death

[lean grove]

Yes. Yes they will. They roll off at about 150hz, the pebbles at least have passive radiators making it roll off at around 100hz. And if you can EQ the covo, you can EQ the pebbles. Not to mention the advantages of a single full range driver making EQ a lot more effective.

[rocky trail]

true but the covo s will have a much better amp

pebbles probably have a max of like 5w

eq is only as good as your headroom

[glad creek]

But do you need a good amp when anyway you won't have good volume due to distorsion?

[lean grove]

How many watts do you think you need at a desktop

[glad creek]

2 lmao

[lean grove]

I've got a 15 watt amp at mine and I never take it past 20%