audio-tech

[leaden cloak]

oh dang

[tough lava]

I mean, it doesn't HAVE to be 4, but you don't want to do it twice.

[leaden cloak]

fair

so then i need all that stuff and a big crimper

[tough lava]

when you're talking about 500-1000W over a few meters at 12V 🙂

[leaden cloak]

lol yeah makes sense

espeically if its being tapped on the car's battery

[tough lava]

yep

I actually just bought new battery terminals and stuff

[leaden cloak]

i hope he doesnt need to since that car is literally brand new

those look nice

[haughty moon]

I had 00 gauge power cables back in the days

[tough lava]

How NOT to do it, by me, when I didn't know better.

[leaden cloak]

it goes down to 0? that concerns me how thick that might be

[tough lava]

fuckin 'uuuge

[leaden cloak]

not gonna lie that is a bit sketch

[haughty moon]

well it can be bigger than that but it's really not meant for cars applications

[tough lava]

yeah but even when it was new it was wrong - don't use battery terminals like that.

[leaden cloak]

every search for 0 gauge wire is car audio

[tough lava]

and obviously that power cable is absolutely fucked

[leaden cloak]

dad gum 0 is huge

[tough lava]

It shits me though, that a lot of the advice for installing car audio is absolutely shit, and 'install kits' don't include what you would actually need to do it properly.

[leaden cloak]

oof that sucks. espically for someone like me

[tough lava]

grounds? erro on the side of more and bigger. Power? err on the side of bigger

I also have a dedicated power run to my fuel pump because it draws a LOT more current than the stock one.

(that's the wire my finger is holding out)

[leaden cloak]

what car is that?

[leaden cloak]

subaru?

[tough lava]

yeah

[leaden cloak]

mm

so shes a bit of a fixer-upper

[tough lava]

lol wat?

[leaden cloak]

(i was told subarus need a lot of work lol)

[tough lava]

oh they are awful

but they are also awesome 😄

[leaden cloak]

if thats yours in the pic it looks really nice

[tough lava]

yeah that is my car

[leaden cloak]

nice

anyways back to audio

is this all i need? im making a list of stuff

[leaden cloak]

good to have a fire extinguisher handy

[tough lava]

the Dash cluster is custom, the steering wheel and airbag cover are not stock, the gearbox isn't stock, the boot isn't stock, the gear knob isn't stock, obviously the radio isn't stock

oh, and since that pic I changed the buttons for black ones 😄

[leaden cloak]

damn you sure put a lot of work into that thing

[tough lava]

got the audio wire for input to the sub?

[leaden cloak]

right audio wire

[tough lava]

I assume it's just RCA, but that would depend on how it's done

[tough lava]

yeah I ... have problems 😄

[leaden cloak]

the amp and adapter i plan to use are rca and the sub itself is just regular ol' speaker wire

[tough lava]

cool

[leaden cloak]

well hopefully thats it then. oh what gauge do you recommed i use for each wire?

[ivory tangle]

is the 990 Pro 250ohm for 200AUD good or should i go with the ATHM40X for 150 aud

[leaden cloak]

i would personally get neither. for that price i would recommend the dt 880 250 ohm or the akg k371/61

[ivory tangle]

they are like 230/260 aud

[leaden cloak]

do you have enough?

230 isnt a too much more

[ivory tangle]

no, going 200 is the max

[leaden cloak]

oh i see

[ivory tangle]

ive already stretched it enough

[leaden cloak]

and im guessing agk k361 is out of budget?

[ivory tangle]

ye

[leaden cloak]

alright then out of those two you listed the ATHM40 is the better of the two

[ivory tangle]

any other suggestions or just that

[leaden cloak]

hyperx cloud ii maybe but thats all i can think of right now

[haughty moon]

hd560s maybe

[ivory tangle]

300$

what about the 569 or the 599

[haughty moon]

meh

[ivory tangle]

i found the 599 for 180$

[leaden cloak]

Thank you @haughty moon and @tough lava for the help btw i really appreciate it

[real lichen]

Do akg cables tend to break or am I just unlucky?

[molten lotus]

Yes

I don't really know but why can't both be true?

[real lichen]

I was having audio going in and out and it would go to normal when I grabbed my cable and held it up in the air. Glad it wasn't my dac or anything but still it was the long cable. The other two that came with the k371s were a same length one but coiled and another straight one that's shorter

[dry stratus]

no cables break by themselves at least...

some break easier

but no cable just breaks by existing

most cables will end up breaking at some point if you let it sit on the floor and roll over it ofc (while a rare few outlast the flooring...)

[molten lotus]

The way things work the more expensive cable will fail before the cheaper ones. Just Murphys law

[dry stratus]

the cables that last me the longest are ethernet

for obvious reasons

you plug them in once, and just run them along the walls

the cables that last me the least amount of time are on mice...
just keep having to pull (aka just gonna go wireless)

[lavish warren]

you should look at IEMs at that price. The DUNU Titan S is ever so slightly above that

[ivory tangle]

i dont really like iems

[lavish warren]

well uh I fear most occupants of this channel... they don't take kindly to suggestions in that price range...

[lavish warren]

didn't you own a finalmouse a while back?

poseidon-12 small?

or is it too "precious" to take with you

[dry stratus]

still using it together with mx master 3... mx master 3 is breaking down, and 3s is worse imo
feels mushy compared to the 3

[lavish warren]

magnetic scroll wheel seems cool, any actual benefit over normal ones?

[dry stratus]

just feels much nicer

going back to normal scroll wheel felt like going to budget

[ivory tangle]

?

[dry stratus]

mx master 3s is sad, they wanted to make it quieter, but now it feels like a cheap heavy membrane

[lavish warren]

if you trust amazon, Phillips SHP9500 could well be your first venture into "audiophile" headphones

[ivory tangle]

theres the 9600 for 120

[lavish warren]

just no.

#audio-tech message

from a seasoned perspective the new version is even worse

[dry stratus]

could always just try to live with like a KPH30i, lol

[ivory tangle]

the two are about same price

[lavish warren]

but they're not the same

[ivory tangle]

mk

do i need an AMP for the 9500

[lavish warren]

its like comparinig salmon with cod

[lavish warren]

no

[ivory tangle]

ok

[lavish warren]

lower budget headphones in these categories can go without them completely, if you want them to function

when you have the budget a USB DAC could do a little better

an amp is for when there isn't enough power to let you hear anything from them

if the sensitivity is ±100dB and at most 50 ohms (funny horseshoe thing), you're fine at any vol level without an amp

[ivory tangle]

so like the apple dongle

thing

[lavish warren]

there are better options

but uh sure if you want 🤷

it does up the ante for chromebook users where sound is there bc laptop :p

[haughty girder]

tbh I like it

the first mx masters were so loud

the scroll wheel mechanism

was so loud

[unique wind]

membrane master race

[haughty girder]

I mean

I swapped my G305 switches out for Kailh Red silent switches

these

if you feel them, you'll know they're also mushier than your standard microswitch, but it's silent sooo

[unique wind]

i don’t mind soft mouse switches

id rather they be quiet

i liked the quiet optical switches on the viper but didn’t like the shape of the mouse itself

[vestal meadow]

Intresting choice

I swapped them for the kailh gm8.0

And the use the front buttons for the side buttons lol

[haughty moon]

Those are probably the one I'll get for my g305

Unless someone tell me they are complete shit

[haughty moon]

Did you also replace the side buttons or just the left and right ones ?

[haughty girder]

all of them

I have a 3d printed shell and everything

[haughty moon]

Good to know

That I will do too

[haughty girder]

Yea, 67g with type C charging

Could get it down to 62g probably if I sanded and painted it differently

[unique wind]

try 25g

(dont, its battery life is only like 48h)

[haughty moon]

You put a permanent rechargeable battery inside instead of the lithium aaa with adapter ?

[haughty girder]

I have a tp4057 USB c lipo board with a 500mah lipo from a tws case

modified the bottom shell design so it fits

And it's held in using hot glue I think...

I don't remember I finished project a few months ago

[haughty moon]

That's some serious mods there ... nice

[unique wind]

[lean grove]

Horizontal off-axis meme open baffle desktop speakers

Nuke vertical off-axis. It's okay. It's not like there's gonna be a horizontal surface right at the speakers.

[steel escarp]

when you move your head 2cm and suddenly hear 10dB less treble

[lean grove]

Well their horizontal should be great

[steel escarp]

yeah but when you stand up

and better off axis performance means better imaging

[lean grove]

Not necessarily

[unique wind]

paint an image of yourself getting some bitches

[lean grove]

For imaging you want a narrow dispersion. These are gonna be super wide. And open baffle.

[steel escarp]

why is nobody dumb enough to buy my denon ah-d5000 for 500 euro or at least 200 minimum

[buoyant vale]

did you tell them you tampon modded it?

thats gotta bump the value up a bit

[steel escarp]

legit my mod made it listenable

to some degree

still murder upper treble even through 3 ply toilet paper

the bass is good tho

[rocky spruce]

Was about to buy some 880 buy how good is this Headset? They are selling it for 79 Euro (versus 149 for the 880) and does it need a amplifier?

[steel escarp]

both give you hearing damage

[unique wind]

audiophiles putting paper towels or toilet paper in their headphones instead of using eq

[lean grove]

Fidelios are worse than the 880s.

[steel escarp]

I tried like 10 different brands of toilet paper, paper, wool pads, foam filters, kitchen paper towel

[unique wind]

how much does sennheiser hd560s cost for you

[lean grove]

They're comfy, well built, and easy to power. But theyre far from neutral.

[steel escarp]

for rear driver dampening the wool was also ideal, bass didn't decrease due to it not being dense. reflections still stopped

[lean grove]

I think they're good for dads who just want something to listen to rock and roll on.

Also grey what the hell are you even talking about

[unique wind]

grey the type of dude to spend an entire day putting random fabrics inside of his headphones

[steel escarp]

I spent weeks

trying all the different pads

[unique wind]

why

[steel escarp]

I ordered th900 and th610 pads

tried the beyer pads

[unique wind]

what is the name of these headphones

[steel escarp]

and random aliexpress stuff

denon ah-d5000

so much stuff is done to tune this headphone

the plastic ring, the rubber ring around the driver, the intentional semi open design to increase bass

[unique wind]

but you couldve just used a negative high shelf filter

[steel escarp]

I have to EQ it by ear

I can't get it right

its good till 2kHz

[unique wind]

the bass is tuned like a dynamic iem that's interesting

[steel escarp]

oh yeah it kicks ass

not many headphones do this

[lean grove]

Biodyna tuning

[steel escarp]

what the heck

[unique wind]

L

i saw a post earlier where the snapchat ai bot couldnt figure out where the letters n were in the word mayonnaise

ai chat bots are still pretty stupid at this point

[rocky spruce]

But quite cheaper

[steel escarp]

I should create a less dense foam ring

I'd really need a way to measure my changes

[rocky spruce]

I just want go game on it

Sometime some music while gaming

Thats all

It would do the Trick right?

[steel escarp]

fiio ft3

invest

[rocky spruce]

I wouldnt mind saving more than 50 bucks

[rocky spruce]

Not available

And most likely to expensive

[steel escarp]

300 euros

the accessories you get and the performance make it unrivaled at the price point

[rocky spruce]

Yeah nope

Im not gon invest that much

Its either 880 for 149 or the fidelio

[steel escarp]

how old are you

I ask because your age is relevant to how sensitive you are to treble

[dry stratus]

they are likely not 50

next you are gonna ask all their diagnosis

[rocky spruce]

Im 14

And broke as hell

[steel escarp]

get earbuds with a detachable cable

[dry stratus]

imagine in ears staying in your ears

[steel escarp]

they stay

if not try foam tips

[unique wind]

conpin doesn’t have traditional ears

he absorbs sound waves through pores in his skin

[steel escarp]

legit earbuds for cheap are gonna sound as good as sub 300 euro headphones

[dry stratus]

give me XXXS Etymotic tips

just sticks

[haughty girder]

waner have never fallen out of my ears before

[rocky spruce]

No

[lean grove]

Pretty much anything will work for gaming. $80 for a Fidelio, you could do worse.

[rocky spruce]

Not comfy not good for me

[rocky spruce]

I mean is there any better option ?

Its cheap and apparently its decent

880 look Nice but expensive

[steel escarp]

dt880 souds bland

[lean grove]

For what you want, I'm not sure.
Closest thing would be the akg k361 and below that there's the creative aurvana live and koss porta pros. But koss and Cal are rickity built and the 361 I don't know how it compares to the fidelios.

[steel escarp]

Thieaudio Ghost looks interesting

[unique wind]

it’s not worth buying something that’s “good enough to be usable” for $80 when you can get something genuinely good and wouldn’t need to be upgraded for $160

[unique wind]

that looks pretty horrible

mud and no treble

[steel escarp]

looks like an average day for an lcd-x enjoyer

[unique wind]

audeze lcd x users gaslighting themselves into believing it’s not their headphones that sound bad, it’s everything else

[lean grove]

Except the fact that they're minmaxing lower mids

[steel escarp]

if only he400se was efficient

and the drivers dont rattle as soon as the diaphragm touches the magnet array

which happens very easily

[lean grove]

They are efficient

[steel escarp]

mid tier

[lean grove]

They're not inefficient

[steel escarp]

its not like an old school ananda

[lean grove]

93 db/mw.

[steel escarp]

ananda is 103dB/mw

[rocky spruce]

So the fidelio suck ass?

[steel escarp]

bro if you want to be safe go for akg k371

130 euros

32 ohms and 114dB sensitivity

doesn't need an amp

it also has really good tuning

[unique wind]

he400se is harder to drive than sundara but it isn’t that bad

[rocky spruce]

So out of the three i take which one?

[unique wind]

k371 is the best out of those

if you want an open back then sennheiser hd560s

[rocky spruce]

My only issue whit it : it doesnt look comfy

[steel escarp]

dt880 is what I use as ear warmers during the winter

[rocky spruce]

Yeah thats pretty much what i want

[steel escarp]

its summer

[dry stratus]

what I want is headphones with built in AC

give me the dyson, but it cools the air I breathe in instead

gets too hot inside

[steel escarp]

literally just wear IEMs

[dry stratus]

if only I could

but they don't fit

either too big, or don't go deep enough to stay in

[rocky spruce]

Fair enough

Ill take them

[steel escarp]

@dry stratus get one of these kits with different tips

foam tips should definely stay in your ear

also get one with a cable that goes like this

[dry stratus]

give me XXS/XXXS tips that go as deep as an XXL

[unique wind]

why do u want it so deep it just feels weird

[rocky spruce]

Can I change the idk how to call it the thing around the ear to put a comfy one?

[dry stratus]

never stay in

small tips don't go deep enough to stay in, and large tips don't go in at all

[rocky spruce]

Cause i like comfy

[rocky spruce]

Is it possible to remove Headset pad and put comfy one

[lean grove]

Yes.

[rocky spruce]

Then ill take the k371

Every night i come here i ask i change which one i buy lol

[lean grove]

Pads heavily change the sound tho.

Whole point of the 371 is that it's well tuned as-is

[rocky spruce]

Oohh Kopfertami really?

[lean grove]

Well. I guess it depends on the headphones.

The measurements i saw with the 371 showed a little bit of change. A lot less than expected tho.

[rocky spruce]

Its small change, ill take it

[molten lotus]

security and isolation

[lethal grove]

What is the best white wireless gaming headset under 70$?

[haughty girder]

1. Headsets suck

2. most wireless Headsets suck even more

3. Don't get white and gaming, it will look disgusting

4. 70 is a very low budget for a "good" wired headphone or headset, let alone wireless

5. if your first priority is looks, get whatever you can find that fits your budget, they are all the same levels of garbage

[lethal grove]

Damn.

[lethal grove]

I honestly don't care about the best quality I just want something that I could vc with and not start hearing weird sounds after 2 years.

[clever dirge]

nova 7

[violet egret]

lol I have a first world issue,should I use nothing ear 1 or galaxy buds pro?

[cunning nimbus]

Airpods Pro

[cunning nimbus]

Brainwash him into getting Hifiman Edition XS

[unique wind]

hifiman is selling refurb aryas at a massive discount

[molten lotus]

how much

[unique wind]

789 for og and 879 for stealth

[molten lotus]

for og?

what

v1?

[unique wind]

i dont know

it's just labeled as "non stealth"

i would assume it's the v2 non stealth

he1000 stealth for 1259

im still waiting for arya organic squiggles

[peak yacht]

id buy v1 in a heartbeat

[lethal grove]

That's like $150

[full cape]

Can i let a speaker (subwoofer), which is made for 40 to 20k hz, run at 50hz for a prolonged amount of time? like an hour or so?

or does it eventually burn out?

[lean grove]

Speakers will have a continuous and a peak power rating. So long as you're below the continuous power you should be fine.

Also why are you playing 50hz for an hour

Are you trying to piss off your neighbors

[full cape]

Well, that the thing lol. they play music all night while im trying to sleep..

now i wanna get some revenge

and that frequency can be heard over their music

[full cape]

u mean dont go over the recommended wattage for the speaker? the one i got is 50 watts.

[lean grove]

Yeah man idk. Have you tried asking them to not and then filing a noise complaint?

[full cape]

yep

[lean grove]

Like this is not the way you should do anything

[full cape]

cops wont do shit

[lean grove]

Okay well at this point you're just slinging shit.

And pissing off every other neighbor nearby too

[full cape]

Only got one neighbour, otherwise i wouldnt do it

or is there a way i could file a complaint anywhere else?

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

This is audio advice not legal advice

[weak rapids]

Get a bluetooth speaker and blast an alarm or purge siren while driving down suburban streets in the middle of the night

[cosmic wraith]

Deserve?

[quiet ether]

i have just the artist for you

[cosmic wraith]

@lean grove why?

I also have a sound card

[lean grove]

Logitech makes a business by selling speakers which look impressive but are actually just cheap

[cosmic wraith]

https://www.emag.ro/placa-de-sunet-creative-play-3-usb-70sb173000000/pd/DTKXY9BBM/

[lean grove]

Half the speaker is fake.

[unique wind]

lul

[haughty girder]

Multiple of Logitechs speakers are like this

[haughty girder]

but they cost so little it ends up being acceptable anyways

[lean grove]

It would cost even less if they didn't add pretend tweeters

[haughty girder]

oh for sure

[lean grove]

Like if someone adds sawdust to their food to make it cheap, it doesn't make it acceptable to sell it.

[haughty girder]

But then it looks cheaper and nobody buys em

[lean grove]

Marketing false features is not a good thing.

And excusing it for being cheap is still shitty.

[cosmic wraith]

Lol

Ok

[lean grove]

Because there's other $100 stuff that's better and doesn't include fake parts to make you think it's better value

Edifiers, klipsch, creative

Like Logitech is genuinely the bottom of the barrel for speakers and it's not just because they're cheap.

[cosmic wraith]

Ok

And bos

Bose

[haughty girder]

aren't they like, 30

[cosmic wraith]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJxTrtdr/

[lean grove]

Google puts them at $100 ish

[haughty girder]

oh that's overpriced then

[cosmic wraith]

60euro

Romanian bro

[dry stratus]

welcome in my life

elderly singing folk music 2 at night with thin walls

[unique wind]

you will succumb to folk music and enjoy it too

[full cape]

wait wtf. those r the speakers from the Z333, right? i got those at my pc...

[dry stratus]

I will never enjoy dutch folk music

[full cape]

fucking logitech

[unique wind]

only buy logitech mice and wireless keyboards, everything else is poopoo

[dry stratus]

try to find me some TWS that 1. sound good and 2. stay in my ears

[full cape]

well, i got them on clearence for 20 bucks, so i cant complain

[unique wind]

you need some wireless etymotics

[dry stratus]

if only it were a thing

[full cape]

Anker Soundcore Life P3. Great sound, great battery life and they stay in ya ears

[unique wind]

if they didnt have soldered cables it would be possible

[full cape]

and if you need it, you can fully adjust the equalizer in the app

they also got Noise cancelling

[dry stratus]

I need weird eartips for in ears to stay in

and over ears are too sweaty/warm

[full cape]

u can get memory foam ear tips

[molten lotus]

i got ety tips on my arias

its good enough

[unique wind]

is there a way to make ksc75 wireless

[full cape]

mod it?

[dry stratus]

I want some wireless in ear for portable

[full cape]

otherwise galaxy buds pro. had them for 2 years. lost em tho. also great sound and they stay in. come with foam tips

[dry stratus]

just not really much that has like thin but long tips

[molten lotus]

utws time

my trn bt adapters broke

but my cat dropped them

and they worked again

awesome

[unique wind]

i think fiio utws7 is supposed to have some form of noise cancelling

[molten lotus]

bs

[dry stratus]

I wish the adapter worked with the etymotics

[molten lotus]

put ety tips on other iems

they are called triple flange

[dry stratus]

put them on airpods pro

[unique wind]

i don’t see how they can do it but i remember reading the advertisement

[dry stratus]

probably "noise cancelling mic"

[unique wind]

yeah but isn’t it supposed to be designed with the earphones tuning in mind

i mean the fiio utws5 has pass through but it’s not good

https://preview.redd.it/rkdjtm78oqh91.png?auto=webp&s=bc26f4cf3826f2385ad425eb6b406ffc44b92f50

[dry stratus]

"12 hour battery life"

I think it still depends on what you plug onto them

[unique wind]

it does yah because you’ll have to use more or less power

[dry stratus]

would they do HE6?

adapter ofc

[unique wind]

they don’t last nearly as long when i use them for sundara instead of my iems

but having wireless open backs is awesome

[haughty girder]

Nekocake actually stay in my ears fairly well, as do airpods pro

[unique wind]

the og hifiman he-6?

[lean grove]

Yes. Logitech is probably one of the worst speaker manufacturers

They put in huge amounts of efforts to underdeliver

Like. Genuinely they engineer things to be appear great.

[haughty girder]

maximize margins**

[haughty girder]

he6 are mmcx right

if so then yes

[unique wind]

i can’t think of anyone worse than logitech when it comes to an actually sizable company

[haughty girder]

If not then maybe

[unique wind]

the connection doesn’t matter that can be adapted

aren’t og he6 only 77db though

it’d be close but it should work

[haughty girder]

I know someone did it with HD600

[unique wind]

i would assume the future utws7 has more power

the 5s i have run he400se and sundara fine

but those are a lot more sensitive than he6

[unique wind]

chad

it works well

they run my sundaras with -5.5 preamp just fine

zero noise floor at the max 33/33 volume

i usually use 20-25/33 for casual and 25-30/33 for louder listening

if i’m not running eq then even 25/33 is as loud as you’d ever want to be

[molten lotus]

pretty sure this was a reddit meme

[gentle gate]

is it worth it getting some good speakers or a soundbar to use dolby atmos or should I just use the speakers I have

[unique wind]

actual atmos is a pain in the ass to setup

you’d need ceiling mounted speakers

[molten lotus]

meme atmos is easy but like

its a meme

kek

generally stereo is better for most stuff

easier to setup

works best with music

though movies and games benefit from surround

[gentle gate]

so, just keep the ones I've got, gotcha

[molten lotus]

you could also get better stereo speakers

[unique wind]

i think 3 channel is the easiest to go from movies to music

[molten lotus]

or a subwoofer

[unique wind]

3.1 or 3.2 and you can toggle or disable the center at will

[gentle gate]

well I like the speakers I have now, they're good. It's just that the reciever they're hooked up to doesn't support arc or eARC so I'm connecting via optical or digital, I don't remember what it's called

[unique wind]

actually don’t newer receivers have a direct mode

[molten lotus]

ehh?

center is cursed

[unique wind]

where it’ll play stereo tracks only on the left/right

[molten lotus]

why would you want center

it just makes shit sound muffled

[unique wind]

and then the center automatically chimes in with surround movies

[molten lotus]

its like the last piece of gear you want to introduce to any setup

[unique wind]

if you’re a music knob sure

[haughty girder]

Center is fine when it's not messing with every other channel

[molten lotus]

which it does

very very often

[unique wind]

like i said don’t new receivers have a direct mode

where it’ll just completely ignore the center channel with stereo music and movies

[haughty girder]

yes

Actually most in the past 10 years have

[molten lotus]

yes

because it just makes shit like ass

what a metaphor

ill use this

[gentle gate]

mean I tried to use a center channel, it did indeed sound like ass

[unique wind]

if its just u or just u n ur girl then id say go with regular stereo

[lean grove]

Then you have a shit center channel

[molten lotus]

centers are shit

[lean grove]

Then get a better one.

[molten lotus]

make one

[lean grove]

Gotta get a coax center

Kef ftw

[cosmic wraith]

Wow

[gentle gate]

was just cuz I saw the qn90b has atmos support, but my receiver doesn't do arc or eARC so if it was like, mind-blowing and easy and what not maybe I'd invest in it

[unique wind]

soundbar atmos is pretty bleh unless you buy one with like nine channels and have a perfect room for it

[molten lotus]

remove center for good sound

no need for thanks

this has been audio-tech

[unique wind]

the virgin audiophile fears the chad center channel

[lean grove]

Center channel helps with imaging while still getting a super wide soundstage.

Best of both worlds

[molten lotus]

i die of cringe

terrible

[unique wind]

klaus needs a firmware update

[molten lotus]

av forum boomer input

[unique wind]

arya organic needs to hurry the hell up

if the rumor of it being better built and having more bass and upper midrange is true they could be epic

if it's like this itll be a cop

[rocky spruce]

(läßt time asking i swear) the akg is the best right?

[haughty girder]

880 is good if you want open back, otherwise yes

[lean grove]

I'd still go with 880

[drowsy jolt]

Anyone recommend any headphone with native 5.1 or 7.1 audio along with 2 simultaneous inputs as I want to be able to hear my PC audio and Xbox audio without switching inputs.

[gleaming pine]

not an audiophile so don't know if this method is viable, but maybe you could get a cheap dual channel audio mixer? then you could use any headphone you want.

[haughty girder]

native 5.1 requires 6 drivers AT MINIMUM with content mastered for 5.1

7.1 is even more complicated as it adds top channels

[rocky spruce]

Whats that?

[haughty girder]

You're not getting 5.1 out of headphones no matter how you fake it

[rocky spruce]

Why?

[lean grove]

More comfortable.

[haughty girder]

open back headphones are in the name, the backs are open so you can hear everything around you

dt880 are indeed more comfortable and more detailed than k371

at the cost of sound isolation

[rocky spruce]

I like comfy

Well now that you say it like that, i do kinda need open back

For when mom is calling me

880 it is

[latent crane]

how do you combined to audio inputs im trying to use soundboard and mic

[drowsy jolt]

Yup, 5.1 is easier and probably cheaper than 7.1

[buoyant vale]

https://tenor.com/view/missing-the-point-over-your-head-right-dumbass-gif-14402541

[lean grove]

The point is you're not getting either with headphones

[drowsy jolt]

yup the unfortunate truth

[molten lotus]

as a closed back yes

[molten lotus]

5.1 and 7.1 is terrible on headphones

[exotic schooner]

any decent recivers i could reasonable find for cheap on marketplace?

[lean grove]

there probably are

[exotic schooner]

the last time i had a decent reciver it was a sony es year 2000 model traded it for my current speakers and i still regret doing it

i was going to switch over my speakers to this pevey professional amp i have but i use it for my subwoofer

[unique wind]

what the heck happened

why is the mesh mangled

[lean grove]

open back :)

packed in box incorrectly

driver got a visit from mr. 3.5mm

[unique wind]

i didnt know you owned sundara

[lean grove]

nah this is some nerd on reddit

i just thought it was funny

[unique wind]

i havent been able to use mine because i lost one of my 0.78mm pin to 3.5mm adapters

and my magnius right channel is dead

i could plug up my iemagni but that's effort

[lean grove]

you'd never catch me owning a sundara 🦭

[unique wind]

we're gonna be arya organic buddies when the squiggles come out

[lean grove]

watch it look excatly like every other single hifiman

[unique wind]

im hoping itll be tuned more like susvara and he1000v1 than the other newer egg hifimans

less of an upper mid scoop

people that tried it at a show said "more bass, more midrange presence, smaller soundstage"

more upper midrange probably makes them think it has less soundstage

[lean grove]

i was thinking that too

i like the hifiman dip but its nice when something is actually able to do vocal intimacy

[unique wind]

i think a little dip can be tasteful

like a sundara/susvara/he1000 dip

but the arya dip is a crater

[lean grove]

have you seen the he5se dip

[unique wind]

cant remember it off the top of my head

[lean grove]

interesting how much the treble tracks

[unique wind]

literal crater

weak bass extension too

[lean grove]

these were the headphones i mained before i got the hd800

[unique wind]

do you like the hd800 a lot more

[lean grove]

hmmmm yes and no.

hd800 is overall a better headphone in a lot of ways but i like the hifiman sound sig quite a bit

heres another interesting comparison

[unique wind]

dip connoseur

[lean grove]

the audeze lcd-1 is actually my favorite hifiman

its just that they're so fucking janky

crinkle drivers, driver mismatch, and they change tonality depending on if i lean my head slightly

[unique wind]

audeze lcd-1 looks like they tried to diffuse field but didnt boost the treble enough

[unique wind]

huhhh

since when does he400se have that much of a dip

amir's measurement of the lcd-1 is very different than crinacle's

[lean grove]

it might be unit variance

it mightr be amir being amir

[unique wind]

my main problem with the he400se was the upper treble and the lcd-1 doesnt have that

well it doesnt really have any upper treble lmao

[lean grove]

wanna buy mine for $200

[unique wind]

ive only heard v-shaped consumer garbage and harman treble stuff

[unique wind]

based on what you said earlier no

if they had the tuning that they do but with no build issues then maybe

[lean grove]

worth a shot

[unique wind]

weird build for audeze

[lean grove]

there's like a 3 db channel imbalance

windows fixes most of it, but its inconsistent across the frequency

[unique wind]

how does something like that fall under proper quality control

[lean grove]

it might be the guy before me

there's parts of the driver which look like they were appleid b y a gradeschooler

so that part was probably audeze

[unique wind]

did grey sell you them

he spent a week fucking with his denons

[lean grove]

i got them from some random on ebay

[unique wind]

sundys are back in business

threw the iemagni back on the desk

[rocky helm]

Hi everyone hope everyone having a good evening, I need help with some recommendations sound bar for my friend tv setup, right now they have nothing beside the tv and the sound is really lackluster. My budget is around 300-400. Any recommendations or alternative is appreciated

[tepid torrent]

I wish the mids were a little more filled in

[lean grove]

Then hifiman not for you.

[tepid torrent]

Yep

I get people prefer this sound

Its all down to preference

[unique wind]

real

[serene scaffold]

graph scaling + point where it is aligned to target

crinacle's graph scaling is often deceptive

[lean grove]

A degru appears

[ornate linden]

degru is everywhere

in ur halls, in ur walls

[lean grove]

Goose here too

Who sent the screenshot

[ornate linden]

who

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-there-hi-whats-up-head-roll-lets-dance-gif-4783428

[dry stratus]

Only have a single channel left open, lel

[ornate linden]

also yeah, they aren't that different

it's just the scaling they use for their graphs

[dry stratus]

my channel list:

[rich trench]

Hey, does anyone know where I can mass download a youtube or spotify playlist for free? I have around 200 songs in a spotify playlist as well as a youtube playlist and would to download one of them to mp3 without having to do it one by one. Any suggestions?

[static dock]

You could check if you find an api or let chatgpt do it for you

[lofty ibex]

I got a website for you

[haughty girder]

we can't discuss piracy here, but I will tell you there are tools that you can use to transfer playlists from spotify to youtube, then youtube converters.

[cosmic wraith]

Ok?

[dry stratus]

don't use apps to measure volume

[haughty girder]

it's close enough

[molten lotus]

anyone tried grado rs2x?

[dry stratus]

Someone: if you’ve tried one grado you’ve tried all

[molten lotus]

cap

i think grados are good for old people

they're very bright

when you get old you start losing hearing in the upper ranges

[lean grove]

They are mostly the same headphones if they're in the same generation

If you have hearing damage yeah they're great

John grado knows his audience

[molten lotus]

no need for hearing aids!

[molten lotus]

shoot too many rifles without hearing protection

grado suddenly the best headphones! can't hear upper with any other headphone

[dry stratus]

They look like they were made by elderly

[cunning nimbus]

Anyone got a dac recommendation that I can use usb A and C with?

[tender frost]

Y'all I need a recommendation for $40 or under IEMs that have a mic

[dry stratus]

Wireless?

[peak yacht]

salnotes zero was pretty good

[tender frost]

Cable is fine

[dry stratus]

Tho wireless would be a bit more because nekocake, lel

[haughty girder]

Tangzu wan'er with mic

[unique wind]

qkz x hbb khan

[haughty girder]

that works too

[unique wind]

khans are exceptionally smooth

it’s impossible to find a song that sounds harsh on them

and the bass fuckin thumps

they might sound a little dry when coming from an iem with lifted midbass though i don’t hear that at all anymore

[meager salmon]

hello everyone :D i recently bought the sony xm5s and im overall very satisfied!
what really bummed me out just now is after i joined a voice chat on discord mobile my audio got all muffled and just overall sounds bad, does anybody have a fix for this?

[buoyant vale]

thats just how bluetooth is

[molten lotus]

that's what happens when you use the mic of bluetooth headphones

which is regularly turned off so it doesn't sound terrible like you mentioned

only utilized in calls

[meager salmon]

any idea how i turn off my mic then?

because on ios you can't change input and output seperately i think

[molten lotus]

i don't really know my way around ios

but hardware wise you need to somehow stop the mic from being used

[lean grove]

In windows in the lower right when you click on the volume button you can choose between devices. You want to make sure your xm5's aren't being used as a headset.

[meager salmon]

Oh no im talking about mobile, i dont think theres a fix for that

ill have to give them back i think ;( sadge

[haughty girder]

if something is using ur mic, close ur bsckground apps and find out

[meager salmon]

well of course discord is using my mic

[molten lotus]

oh

[lean grove]

Replace them with an audeze Maxwell ;)

[haughty girder]

oh you should be able to change that in the app settings

[molten lotus]

you can't unfuck audio while in a call

to my knowledge

[haughty girder]

nvm yea you can't

not on mobile

[molten lotus]

because the protocol for voice calls also reduces latency i think?

[meager salmon]

xD well i have airpods max and those did work pretty well, only thing bothering me alot is that they weigh about 284398kgs

[molten lotus]

airpods max can utilize mic and headphones at the same time without issues?

[meager salmon]

yea i can hear everyone totally fine

but i think for that my audio quality gets way worse since my friends complain about that a lot when i have those connected

[haughty girder]

bandwidth limited, latency improved because there's less info to send back and forth

so the compression decompression is faster

[meager salmon]

thats so damn sad

only had them for a day

[twin granite]

Can someone help with "amps"?

(DVD player used as sound system)

[copper owl]

How do I control the mic volume on my headset?

[copper owl]

Oh I got it

[sharp rapids]

wait how did you get it

my mic volume is so low

and i went into the device properties and turned it up and its still low

[rocky spruce]

Audiophile, i ordered the dt 880

[weak rapids]

Oh damn

New cloud 3s are coming

[copper owl]

Go to the volume on your desktop click it and click the speaker next to the volume and it’ll pull up devices, mic etc

[subtle fiber]

i need advice on voicemeeter with DAW/specifically mixcraft

[zenith spear]

I want creative pebbles V3 but the wire is to short is there any way to make it longer or any alternatives

[haughty girder]

which wire

[zenith spear]

That connects both speakers

[haughty girder]

You can splice and extend if you need, how far apart do you need it?

it should be plenty long for just about any desktop application

[somber frigate]

so my g433 headphones are really nice but my ears get really hot lol.
im looking for a way to have are holes in my headphones any ideas ?

[subtle fiber]

i use mixcraft and im trying to use VM-VAIO 3/4 instead of 1/2 with voicemeeter and the audio is going thru the bar on the voicemeeter vaio3 but i cant hear it

[lean grove]

get open backs

[somber frigate]

i cut some holes in my the phome

[molten lotus]

nice

[somber frigate]

ill see if it help XD

[copper owl]

Yea like the drop pc37x they are $100 and they are hella nice

[lean grove]

Why you pinging me

[dry stratus]

probably gonna be trash

[restive sigil]

Nils why you here ?

[dry stratus]

Because he loves you

[restive sigil]

no, Nils has to stay in other audio discord server. not here

bad nils bad!

[lean grove]

Someone has to keep Klaus in check

[restive sigil]

ouf

dont stay here too long. you'll become a computer nerd

[lean grove]

Lol okay

[dry stratus]

This is a thing tho

What my channel list looks like:

[restive sigil]

oh neat, ok keep that

audio is most important

☺️

[leaden cloak]

i see you got your new discord name, very nice

[lean grove]

Not soon enough

[leaden cloak]

someone took Nils?

so thats who

[tepid torrent]

Why are you here then

[leaden cloak]

why are you here

[tepid torrent]

Why are you here

[leaden cloak]

good question

[restive sigil]

wow

heli is here too

wth

im here for phone advice

but i randomly browse what normies on ltt audio are into

so i dont loose too much touch from reality

and fall down the audio hole of despair and cripling unending hunger for more gear

[leaden cloak]

too late

[lean grove]

I'm gonna beat them up

[leaden cloak]

They joined discord after you which makes it worse

[lean grove]

I got mine so late.

[leaden cloak]

7 days after you actually, wow

[leaden cloak]

rude

[lean grove]

Later than 2016'ers

[leaden cloak]

what why

[lean grove]

No idea

Never lucky

[leaden cloak]

thats stupid

might as well have made me go first

[lean grove]

If a 2017'er got it before me I think I'd just delete my account

I got on the discord train early. I deserve premium treatment

[leaden cloak]

#justiceforptable

[ornate linden]

What is a ptable

[lean grove]

Mom found the ptable

I grabbed it for a friend.

[leaden cloak]

whats your true name gonna be?

[lean grove]

Probably something lame

Maybe nasopharyngitis

Last I checked it wasn't taken

[leaden cloak]

i think you're free to take that one for the rest of discord

[lean grove]

Nickelallergy was one I also considered but that one sounds a bit too close to a dog whistle

[dry stratus]

do "Klaus' boyfriend"

[lean grove]

No

[dry stratus]

yes

[real lichen]

I might go ahead and get some hd600s now. Any things to note coming from akg k371s? I have a FiiO btr5 which I heard can drive it fine.

[molten lotus]

dankpods audience spotted

[unique wind]

?

where they at

[molten lotus]

btr5 and hd600

[steel escarp]

[rough schooner]

Do you guys use open back headphones on public transportation?

[dry stratus]

why would anyone use open backs in such a loud space

just don't use anything, can't hear the sound anyway

[rough schooner]

Ok

[tender frost]

Well fitting IEMs are perfectly good to use on public transport

[molten lotus]

no

it would be very epic

but i would get beaten

[unique wind]

[tender frost]

I remember seeing a post on hifi forums of someone using a TH909 in public
Which is insane

Insane in the bad way mind you

[unique wind]

i just rock one iem in one ear or use nothing

[steel escarp]

Expensive af headphone

Murder treble

[rocky spruce]

Its here

[molten lotus]

reminder that there is a portable stax energizer

[unique wind]

no

do not wear stax in public

[molten lotus]

it is such a huge powerplay

[unique wind]

no

[haughty girder]

yes

[unique wind]

you are not allowed

[tender frost]

I deadass wanted to try out the Stax IEM things

[unique wind]

i will not allow you to wear stax in public

[molten lotus]

they go for like 130$

not difficult to acquire compared to other stax

[tender frost]

Yeah but the portable energiser is a bit much lol

[lean grove]

Just build one.

[molten lotus]

it was energizer included

the one i saw

[spark pier]

Are the SENNHEISER HD 559 for $68 a solid pair of headphones for someone who uses super cheap headphones ($30 Walmart crap)? Classic rock preference, zero audiphile owner.

[molten lotus]

pretty insane deal

[haughty girder]

It's fine, not good, could be worse

[molten lotus]

but i didn't want to waste 130$ just to own bad estats

[lean grove]

That's... Fine...

[spark pier]

I got various recs a few weeks ago for under $100, anything else stand out?

I didn't have enough info last time.

[molten lotus]

its usable

akg k361 is leagues ahead

[haughty girder]

mhm

tho I will sya, 559 are more comfortbale

[molten lotus]

why buy that crap when you have a 100$ to spend

[molten lotus]

fair

[spark pier]

Hadn't seen the k361 yet, shopping for headphones is a rabit hole of time and energy life isn't affording me haha

I'm seeing those for $115 on Amazon, whatever I get has to be new so he can return it.

For entertainment purposes, I kid you not, this is what he's using -

[molten lotus]

115 usd?

pretty overpriced

still a lot better than the senn you mentioned

[spark pier]

Edifier P841 is what those are, I believe.

[molten lotus]

didn't know edifier made headphones

[spark pier]

I got them in 2018

Yeah, and apparently he liked those, as I bought a second pair for another room (he wanted them to stay put)

[haughty girder]

Actually

[spark pier]

Anyway, this is his very ancient setup -

[haughty girder]

Perhaps K361 is not the greatest choice here

[spark pier]

It will NEVER change unti lhe dies (promise), and he's very very very not-techy, just knows old-school audio a bit.

[haughty girder]

its hinges are not especially durable

[molten lotus]

yeah it wont last 5 years of that is what you want

[haughty girder]

it's a weird design, cool concept that wasn't done really well given the plastic parts

[spark pier]

To be fair, those probably weren't supposed to either 😄

[molten lotus]

based setup

[haughty girder]

I've had my k361 for 3 years now tho

[molten lotus]

is that a tandberg in bottom right

[spark pier]

He has some massive amp stacks in in room that are pretty nice, forgot which kind, but 4x to the cieling.

Living in a 1 bedroom...in an apartment complex where he uses headphones over speakers because neighbors get mad at even 2/10 volume.

[haughty girder]

paper walls fr

[spark pier]

Not sure, his house is kind of like a museum. Very small square footage, filled like that.

Not hoarder style, but very dense.

[molten lotus]

what

i asked if that was a tandberg amp

[spark pier]

Anyway, given that bit of backstory, he was using $40 headphones 2x for 5 years, and liked those plenty. I want to treat him, I'm also broke (thus the $100 limit, a touch above if it's REALLY worth it (relative to him)).

[spark pier]

I'm not familiar with the company, didn't know what you meant.

[molten lotus]

ah

[spark pier]

I'll have to grab some better photos next time (possibly today), as he has a lot I'm unfamiliar with.

So it sounds like the SHP9500 aren't that great, at least compared to others around it.

Which sucks, because an hour of Reddit lead me to those.

Well, 30 minutes, whatever.

[molten lotus]

just grab the k361 if you are content with it lasting 2-4 years

its good

shp9500 is just cheap

and open back

that is why it got popular

[spark pier]

Gotcha

Well, if I'm going over $50, it needs to be something nice, so I guess I can do that.

Otherwise it might as well be junk again.

Nice being relative, obviously.

[molten lotus]

you can also get 20-30$ in ears

[spark pier]

He only does over ears, LOATHS in ear.

[molten lotus]

old minded, the market changed a lot

but whatever, his choice

[spark pier]

It's physical for him, and I agree.

He has minor brain damage from an accident in his youth, he's as stuck in his ways as they come.

We're talking wake up time, routine, meals, beer, everything down to the hour.

[tender frost]

Ok, I unironically did

But, my PSU design kept exploding because I was a little dumb when designing it

[unique wind]

[spark pier]

Huh, those K361 are $83 on office supply - trustworthy?

[spark pier]

Apparently not, super sketch.

[haughty girder]

83 was mid-covid pricing lmao

[spark pier]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/se918v/akg_k361_is_disappointing/

Mentioning disappointing sound quality due to seal. A, is this just audiphile comparison, and B, if not, will glasses impact this?

He wears glasses, though he wears them with all headphones, so ♪♫

[haughty girder]

Yes I was gonna mention, impossible to get a good seal on k361

chubbier people will have a better time

they are very sensitive to seal breaches

[spark pier]

3/4 reddit posts are leaning poor review, bah I hate shopping.

[molten lotus]

that's like

3 people that complained

[spark pier]

Forgot if I mentioned, these will be used 99.9% exclusively at that seating area posted above, listening to Classic Rock.

[ornate linden]

you can find negative posts on just about every headphone out there

[spark pier]

I do find people complaining to be much louder, so I get that. The last positive post was a lot more positive, and grounded in reality.

[spark pier]

Product*

[ornate linden]

reddit is literally the last place that I would take audio information from

[spark pier]

Thus why I'm here, just always trying to do my homework after a suggestion before buying.

[molten lotus]

this too

[spark pier]

I think those sound good though - as I suspected, after reading, I then see comparisons to the cheaper products I already read about.

It's just a rabit hole of this is better than that, moving up in price.

[molten lotus]

the iq of people commenting drastically increases when it's not reddit posts

[spark pier]

If people are remotely happy with the SHP9500, these sound great.

[molten lotus]

there is a bit of objectivity too, not everything is like or dislike

[spark pier]

The K361 are a decent upgrade over the K240, yeah? Those look nicer aesthetically, but I read they were pretty uncomfortable.

[molten lotus]

k361 is a very neutral headphone and isn't objectively bad performing in most cases

[molten lotus]

k240 are awful

[tepid torrent]

One is closed and one is open, and K240 is bad

[molten lotus]

meme level

[tepid torrent]

Dankpods meme level

[spark pier]

Haha

Bullet dodged

That was my initial buy and forget option.

[molten lotus]

its like bad on so many ends

only dankpods can recommend it

[tepid torrent]

Apparently people tried to tell him to focus on sound quality and he said no, he would rather review interesting headphones

Ass

[molten lotus]

creative aurvana live se is also a cheap option @spark pier

k361 is better but

this is 50$

and is decent

[spark pier]

I saw the K361 mentioned when reading about them, which is locking that in.

If he doesn't like these for some reason, I'll check those out for sure, thanks for a backup rec.

As well as all of the info in general, I genuinely appreciate it. You just watched me jump all over the place, and I'm pretty good with tech - I'm just stressed and literally don't have the time, and it feels most research is contradited by something somewhere, which becomes hard to filter through when it's not your forte.

PC parts, programming, etc, I'm golden, audio equipment, RIP.

[unique wind]

audio is hard because there's only a handful of objective reviewers and everyone disagrees with eachother

at least in the headphone world, with speakers it's a lot more objective

[spark pier]

That definitely seems to be the case.

[molten lotus]

the opposite for me

[molten lotus]

direct opposite my man

[unique wind]

nop

[molten lotus]

with speakers there are so many factors that come into play

literally no objectivity is preset

because some speakers work some don't

[unique wind]

they work or dont for objective reasons

everything is measurable

[molten lotus]

there are literally not even frequency response measurements for 90% of the speakers

because they possess no meaning since no two rooms will have the same sound

[unique wind]

yeah cus it's a lot more expensive and annoying to properly measure speakers

[molten lotus]

no

it is because they are meaningless

[unique wind]

sip your copium tea

[molten lotus]

who gives a shit how good a speaker sounds in your measurement room if it doesn't in the customer's

it's meaningless info

[unique wind]

measure it in your room then

[molten lotus]

that's something you can only do after buying them and it will only be applicable to you

so there is no objective in medium when it comes to buying speakers except for driver type

and even then there is quality factors

most of which is unmeasured

[unique wind]

nop

build quality can be measured

you can measure for cabinet resonances

that will exist in every room

[molten lotus]

objectively compare me jbl l100 to mission 730

[unique wind]

the best you can hope for is measuring flat with no resonances in a void, and then using room eq in your own space

[molten lotus]

i await

[unique wind]

if i post a picture of a center channel will you physically recoil

[molten lotus]

you literally exist to post asr cope be humble

[unique wind]

i dont even use asr

[dry stratus]

should put speakers in a giant bathroom

[molten lotus]

look guys sundara is the best measuring headphone

just ignore every distortion and decay chart

[unique wind]

malding

[unique wind]

lets do it

[molten lotus]

the only thing you can do is read frequency response and nothing else then post about headphones like you ever listened to them

[unique wind]

lets put four 8" subs in a bathtub

[spark pier]

Everyone knows speakers sound best when submerged under 2 inches of water, on their back.

[spark pier]

Case in point

[unique wind]

yeah i think that's a good metric to look for

[unique wind]

you mean how it has substantially lower distortion and group delay than other more expensive hifimans like ananda/XS, leading it to respond extremely well to eq?

[molten lotus]

yet it is terrible compared to any other dynamic

[unique wind]

no it isnt

[molten lotus]

hd560s measures better

[unique wind]

no it doesnt

560s has full bass extension but its treble is worse

[molten lotus]

yeah

because the only "measurement" you can read is frequency response

nothing else

[unique wind]

not true

[molten lotus]

:^))))

[unique wind]

feel free to continue hyperfixating on things that are not audible and subscribing to snake oil psychoacoustics

while completely dismissing measurements that do actually matter

[lean grove]

Dispersion characteristics? Never heard of her.
Near-field? For the birds.
Box resonances? Driver peaks? Crossover sucking?

[molten lotus]

"I don't know what this measurement means" "stop hyperfixating on this thing you can't hear"

[unique wind]

stop youre scaring him

[molten lotus]

all of which is invalidated when you rotate the speaker 10 degrees upwards

awesome

[dry stratus]

Still do hate sundara for some reason

[unique wind]

good thing youre supposed to perform room eq after youre fully setup and place the microphone in your listening position

instead of spinning your speakers like a pizza

[molten lotus]

room eq only helps with frequency response