audio-tech

[lean grove]

Lower moving mass

[unique wind]

the virgin dynamic variable impedance vs the chad flat impedance planar

[lean grove]

Yes but at what cost

[steel escarp]

It'd getting too late here, I should sleep

Gn

[lean grove]

Grey tired of taking L's

[steel escarp]

It's 1AM

And I have to work tomorrow

[weak rapids]

So you have 23 hours

[molten lotus]

they are more for production than for hifi

[lean grove]

They're more for people that need cheap headphones

And a lot of them

[molten lotus]

and pro industry is very different than the audiophile scene

[obsidian kite]

Which is what I use them for

[haughty girder]

then you're not after quality audio, but just durable one

[cinder plaza]

help me

[lavish warren]

Thoughts on 700 pro x?

[nova wagon]

good reference headphone

for recording and stuff you know

[haughty girder]

they're fine, just exensive

K371 and NTH100 IMO are better, but 700 pro X are nodoubt more durable than both

[slim mason]

Swap the pads like every 2 years or so and they will last forever

[haughty girder]

not even

[lavish warren]

served me well in CS:GO

center image is flat but good 360 deg coverage

shots from behind sound like they're at my head ;p

[obsidian kite]

You somehow missed what I said

[tepid torrent]

What exactly did you say

because I saw nothing except you talking about how much people told you the DT770 sucked

[obsidian kite]

That I bought them for studio production. I didn’t buy them for the bass. I play instruments so needed a good pair of headphones for that

[tepid torrent]

Well they replied with that because the only reason its used in studios is because its durable, studio engineers or whatever dont need good sounding headphones

They use big studio monitors

[obsidian kite]

They sound good though

So idk why everyone is so negative towards them lol

[dry stratus]

they don't tho

their sound is quite the mess

enjoyable?, sure

but that's subjective (even if it matters most, no point to using good sound if you don't like it)

[molten lotus]

they compare poorly to other stuff around the same price

[obsidian kite]

Are you sure you’re on about the pairs from the early 90s?

Because the only experience I’ve had which is remotely negative is the fact they’re painful on my head with glasses on

And noise leak

[steel escarp]

Dt770 is significantly better than most other headphones at the price

[obsidian kite]

I paid £50 for them

I’m hardly moaning

For the 250ohm pair too

[steel escarp]

Good price

The treble will give you actual hearing damage

If you use it too long and will fatigue your ears

[obsidian kite]

Not had that issue

And I play my music loud

[steel escarp]

You should feel it after an hour

Ear fatigue

[obsidian kite]

How long have you had a pair/ how often do you use yours?

[steel escarp]

You will only become more sensitive with time

I had dt770 for 4 years

I sold mine

[obsidian kite]

Did you buy an older pair or new?

[steel escarp]

After hearing he400se

It was a newer pair

[obsidian kite]

Yeah that’s probably why

I keep saying it but mine are the vintage ones lol

[steel escarp]

Had dt880 too, but the 250 ohms version needed an amp

[obsidian kite]

They started making them in the 90s

I use them with a sound card

Ensured it outputs 250

[steel escarp]

My soundcard makes dt880 sound so bad

Or rather my on-board audio

[obsidian kite]

What’d you use?

Ah

Gotcha

Didn’t think they would output 250

[steel escarp]

It just doesn't like high impedance

[obsidian kite]

I get where a lot of people are coming from but the reviews for the older pairs are phenomenal

[steel escarp]

Honestly if you can look into getting he400se

[obsidian kite]

Hence why I’m unsure why people are comparing them

[steel escarp]

They are awesome for the price

Dt900 pro x is also good

Dt700 pro x is mediocre

[obsidian kite]

I don’t buy modern shite lol

[steel escarp]

Why

[obsidian kite]

Because most of it is poor quality

[steel escarp]

The new stuff is often better in the budget range

Newer beyers are built better

[lavish warren]

I would agree

with the treble peak

[steel escarp]

Much better comfort with their new pads

[lavish warren]

thats why I took 700 over 770

also detachable cable

[obsidian kite]

You were both flaming the newer 770s though lol

[lavish warren]

what?

[steel escarp]

I only flamed dt770

Called it the Nokia of the headphone market

[obsidian kite]

I’m using the pros

[lavish warren]

@steel escarp so your argument is open backs are better than closed backs at the 400se price range

new ones are pro x

not pro

[obsidian kite]

Not using the new ones lol

[lavish warren]

ik

[steel escarp]

There are no good closed backs that are remarkably better than IEMs at the same price

[lavish warren]

welp I need noise isolation and decent sound, as well as something that I can actually see

I've purchased earbuds before, and lost even those

[steel escarp]

Get shiny ones

Moondrop Kato

[lavish warren]

anything smaller than a ball of a4 paper I lose

within weeks

if I take them out

[lavish warren]

No

absolutely hate glare

or reflections

that'll just lead to an even earlier demise

[steel escarp]

Tbh at that point just get akg k371 and accept there is nothing better

[lavish warren]

._.

[steel escarp]

You won't get better tonality

[lavish warren]

everybody has different ears, different experience need I SAY IT

I hated Susvara for instance

despite owning nothing more expensive than a 700 pro x

even though I shat on apple earbuds

[steel escarp]

Massive dip

[lavish warren]

I use oratory EQ

dip gone

[steel escarp]

You can't compensate for a null

0 * 5 = 0

Even with EQ

It looks okay for a closed back tbf

[lavish warren]

the one up high is still there, between 200-400 hz ish is flatter

[steel escarp]

3-4kHz dip is gonna hurt vocals

[lavish warren]

personally idc for the dip, don't notice

since metal screaming from corey taylor is about 1k-2k

and I don't listen to many genres outside of heavy metal with vocals in them

plus I send anything above 4k to hell (dial down -4dB or more) if I want to listen for a long time, like studying simultaneously

[molten lotus]

yes the dt770

[molten lotus]

mate what

[obsidian kite]

I’ve had a poor experience with newer headphones it’s my opinion

[molten lotus]

which are?

[obsidian kite]

Mostly sennies

[molten lotus]

yeah which

sennheiser has like 2-3 headphones worth shit

they are a shit company

[obsidian kite]

660s mostly

Gone through 2 pairs

[molten lotus]

660 is a notoriously bad headphone that sounds like a tin can

[obsidian kite]

Cost 5x what my dts cost

[molten lotus]

hd650, hd560s and hd800 are the only sennies sort of worth buying

and even then I dislike hd650s

[lavish warren]

if you can try find a hifi store in your region

try a lot of them

some are downright terrible to certain people, some are love at first sight, others are appealing only in one quality

[obsidian kite]

Currently In London

[molten lotus]

audio science has magically deteriorated according to huibi

because uhh

reasons

we just regressed for no real reason

[steel escarp]

No more he1000v1 tho

And vintage stax

We did regress

[molten lotus]

vintage stax is because of being super non consumer friendly

and he1000v1 can't be considered vintage either

[buoyant vale]

Try the 80s

[steel escarp]

It's unobtanium

[dry stratus]

give me working HE6

[molten lotus]

i wouldn't get an he6 at this time

the headband failure possibility scares me

[dry stratus]

if only it were just the headband

and not driver failure

[molten lotus]

it wouldn't randomly break after surviving for this long

[dry stratus]

headband swap is possible thankfully

[molten lotus]

they still sell that headband?

[dry stratus]

it is compatible with newer headbands

[molten lotus]

yeah but

that would change the sound

[dry stratus]

the OG, no

close tho

[molten lotus]

doesn't it use the same headband as 4xx or something

yeah

it looks like it

[dry stratus]

this exists it seems still

[molten lotus]

zamn

[dry stratus]

it looks so cheap

just a flat metal strip

[molten lotus]

it does

and probably is

he6 also looks super cheap

[dry stratus]

"just chinese products being chinese products"

[unique wind]

give me he1000v1

[dry stratus]

welp, bought an overkill portable AC because rental and QC45 for alright sound but mostly the ANC because I want to be able to sit in the room while it is on, lol

was on sale anyway

[subtle cave]

Guys I had bought my headphone AKG-371BT a year back, although the sound is amazing the build quality is literally shit. The left hinge broke 3 times and I am thinking to buy a new headset. Any good recommendation for a headset below 50$, at this point i find no point in wasting 100$ lol

Use is for Gaming and Listening to songs

[buoyant vale]

if thats your budget then Creative Aurvana Live! SE I guess

[urban warren]

Been thinking about buying a soundbar for my TV but the stand on my LG CS55 is so low that any soundbar directly in front would block the screen. Any suggestions for placement? I don't think I can wallmount the TV as I think the wall isn't a strong one

[subtle cave]

Quite expensive here Idkw

100$ ish

[buoyant vale]

ksc75 then

[unique wind]

your setup has room for actual powered bookshelf speakers

on stands, on either side of the furniture holding your tv up

[urban warren]

Oh, interesting. Wouldn't that be a lot more expensive though? I was hoping to spend about £250 or so

[unique wind]

nope there are some affordable speakers

[urban warren]

Anything in particular I should be looking out for? HDMI connections or something?

[unique wind]

most of them will use optical, i see you have an lg oled tv, it should work with no issues

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1280DBs-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B087C28KJ1/

edifier is usually the way to go for budget powered speakers

that should leave you enough budget to find some speaker stands that fit your room

youll just have to measure to see how tall the stands need to be, and make sure they support the speakers you choose

[charred ore]

edifier good brand can confirm

[urban warren]

I'll take a proper look, thanks. It's the LG CS 55

[copper owl]

how can I adjust the sound and microphone on my headset? I have the MassDrop pc37x headset.

[haughty girder]

wall mount requires studs, which most walls will have

[haughty girder]

wait 250 is enough for a pair of lsr305

[lean grove]

Is it

[deep oasis]

can you guys recommend a good over ear headphones under $100?

just for low latency gaming and listening stuff on yt

[weak rapids]

Pc37x or k361

[haughty girder]

used yea

I've found pairs around 300cad

[lean grove]

Idk. I got gripes about base-lining the value of something based on used options.

[unique wind]

real

[lean grove]

Even though lsr305's have a healthy used market that's generally pretty safe.

[unique wind]

and even if you get the speakers for 250 that leaves no room for stands in the budget

[haughty girder]

300 Cad is far lower than 250 gbp

[south portal]

Hello, what makes a loud microphone?

What is the tech inside of a loud microphone?

[buoyant vale]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

What do you class as a 'loud' mic?

[south portal]

Loud microphone = if you record voice with that microphone, it has loud voice to hear.

[buoyant vale]

ok so basically any mic then

[tender frost]

You can just turn up the gain of any mic to achieve that

[buoyant vale]

there are two main types you'll come across I guess

[tender frost]

If you want loud without clipping, ig using any condenser properly?

[south portal]

@tender frost Increasing gain may increase noise.

[lean grove]

Then you want a sensitive mic or a pre-amp that doesn't have noise

[tender frost]

Or just move the microphone closer to your mouth

[lean grove]

Proximity effect and plosives say no

Also @south portal you've been in here for three days now asking for purchase advice and not taking any of it.

So like what do you want

What's your endgame

[south portal]

Which one is that?

[cobalt gyro]

what headphones/iems would you guys recommend for around 50-100 bucks for gaming/music that have good strong bass but also audio quality that isn't dumpster tier?

without a mic i plan on getting a proper one

[south portal]

@cobalt gyro Some people recommend this: Sennheiser PC37X

[buoyant vale]

they just said they want headphones not a headset...

[cobalt gyro]

ye

because rn i'm using a razer barracuda x headset and holy shit i hate how much it beeps about the battery

i don't care that you're on 20% battery that's literally enough to last me 8 more hours shut the fuck up

i only got a barracuda x because i needed something wireless with low latency that could connect to phones, pcs and xboxes

[haughty girder]

L bozo

I'd rather have my headphones not talk to me

[cobalt gyro]

and this was my best option for like 70 bucks

[cobalt gyro]

doesn't even talk it straight up just does a 1 second beep that blocks all other audio for an entire second when it happens

do you have any idea how annoying it is to listen to music with this shit

rn i just plan on buying an external audio interface and mounting it directly in front of where i'll be sitting either inside the countertop or under it

i am not having a headset cable yank my pc down onto my keyboard again that happened 2 times too many

(also who thought it's a good idea to give a heaset 2 meters of cable)

(the second you get a cable longer than like 150cm you're just asking for it to wrap around a chair leg and destroy everything when you slide it back to go get some snacks)

[unique wind]

2 meters isn’t that long

[cobalt gyro]

it is when your pc is right next to you

[lean grove]

If you get an elgato wave XLR that should have enough gain for any microphone. And then just get a Beringer xm8500

[lean grove]

Maxwell has an 80 hour battery 🥴

[cobalt gyro]

i may have overexaggerated but it's still like several hours of battery life

and also fuck razer for making it beep constantly i am never buying anything from them again oh my god

[south portal]

Dynamic microphone or condenser microphone? Which one should someone buy? I think, most people use condenser microphone.

[molten lotus]

tie it up bro

treat it like your wife

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-frustrated-wolf-of-wall-street-annoyed-smh-gif-9553858

[haughty girder]

most people use condenser because electret capsules are cheap, readily available and are easier to use due to it essentially having its own preamp built in

but ask anyone who actually knows mics, it's so dependant on the use case, situation and even the thing you're reocrding that it's far more nuanced than just condenser vs dynamic

[unique wind]

[lean grove]

He's been asking for the last 3 days.

And we've been answering.

[haughty girder]

Oh

[haughty girder]

Get wa47jr and arturia minifuse 1 and call it a day

[molten lotus]

read chat bro

you got answered so many times

[hollow osprey]

Where do I plug in headphones on my motherboard?

[lean grove]

L-out would be most correct.

[molten lotus]

looks like one of those boards that you can assign any functionality to any output with the driver software

any except mic in should work if you configure it

but the l-out is the default stereo output which doesn't need configuration

[hollow osprey]

You sure?

Or you just saying that cause it highlighted white and others aren’t

[haughty girder]

It's the only one that makes sense here

L out should've been Line out which is technically incorrect, but is also misused on motherboards a fair bit

the icon signifies main output

[hollow osprey]

Oh…

[haughty girder]

or how do I explain this

[hollow osprey]

I got bit

[haughty girder]

Line in and out is based on max voltage

[molten lotus]

yes

from the looks of it that's probably a realtek card

[haughty girder]

Mic in is mic because it's very low voltage

[molten lotus]

they operate all the same

[haughty girder]

nah I don't think Realtek has Mic in

[molten lotus]

it does

[haughty girder]

does it?

[molten lotus]

yeah

realtek has a stupid amount of outputs and inputs

for surround and other things

which it will totally be used for

[haughty girder]

I mean

I don't expect their ADC to be good

but hey if it's functional both Line in and Mic in would've been handy for me

[molten lotus]

i don't think it works well as a line in

if my memory servers correctly

[haughty girder]

yea makes sense

[molten lotus]

i attempted to use it as a line in and it had super loud buzzing

[haughty girder]

Line in doesn't need preamp, Mic in does

and I can only assume (due to size constraints) the preamp is gonna be garbage

[molten lotus]

the dac isn't super shit ngl but like idk

[haughty girder]

Which is ok I have an interface but ea

[molten lotus]

who tf would use realtek for surround

[unique wind]

i’ve never seen anyone do it

[lean grove]

Low cost and looks good on a spec sheet

So probably keep it for that reason

Mobos have a hard time differentiating themselces from competition so they just market as many specs as possible

[supple coral]

Can I get a recomendation for a compatible Atmos Soundbar? Specifically soundbar due to room constraints. Was looking at Arc, Bose and Sony. - THanks!

[molten lotus]

who is t hanks and why does he state this

[supple coral]

T hanks is Tom Hanks.

[elder path]

So like what is the best Wireless Gaming headphones

That’s cheap

[lean grove]

there's only really one wireless headset thats "good" and its the maxwell at $300

there are more and better wired options

[elder path]

Like what?

[lean grove]

if you need a headset there's the pc37x and pc38x

[elder path]

Ok

[lean grove]

if you're okay with just headphones theres the 560s, koss, and some others. open backs are just so much better

[elder path]

If I wanted a nice wireless headphones what would it be even just wounding

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont pay attention to the ones that dont sound good.

[elder path]

Ah ok

[weak rapids]

Typically the best regarded wireless ive seen (doesn’t mean they’re amazing) is the audeze maxwell but those def break the bank

[elder path]

ok thanks

[molten lotus]

what nils said is true but

cloud 2 is a notch above other gaming stuff

if you are set on wireless and you don't want to pay the maxwell price, its a decent option

[elder path]

I have the cloud 2s and the right ear is kinda breaking and like it slip out of the holes and there is a crack in the head part so ye

[molten lotus]

well im afraid that's like one of the best wireless gaming headsets there is

its quite a shitty market

[elder path]

well I have the wired version of it tho

so ye

[molten lotus]

i recommend either swapping to wired or saving up for a maxwell in your case

[molten lotus]

that's better than the wireless version

[elder path]

true

do you know what size head I need so I can replace the ear cup back into place?

[molten lotus]

nope

gaming headsets are too disposable for me to know that

[elder path]

ah ok

[molten lotus]

The AV crew experience

[supple coral]

So replying to myself - no sound at recommendations?

[queen ether]

Looking for a new wireless headset. I am using the logitech g935 atm, but when ever I move my head the headset is making a squeaking sound. Would like to have some better sound quality.
I also use a cable to plug in my amp directly to my headset and still have the audio coming from my pc.
Willing to buy 2nd hand and budget is around 250 euro. Also open to buy good headphones and a separat mic

[vast ferry]

Why two mice and two keyboards? You can use a USB switch to cntroll both computers with one mouse and keyboard

[molten lotus]

It's two macs sir

[cunning nimbus]

OpenGPT recommended me these for linking up my stratocaster to my pc. Any opinions?

Focusrite Scarlett
Behringer U-phoria
Presonus audiobox
M-audio M-track

[molten lotus]

m track solo is good

go for it

[lean grove]

We should get one of those boys for the channel

[cunning nimbus]

I see. I'll look it up, but I'm in Asia and i can't guarantee it'll be available

[unique wind]

party rock is in my house

[haughty girder]

since you don't really need a preamp, M audio M track solo is plenty

Audiobox 96 is outdated

[cunning nimbus]

What does a preamp do?

[haughty girder]

pre amplifies the signal before it gets turned digital... lol

Scarlett also outdated

[cunning nimbus]

My EG sounds like the normal acoustic guitar. I want it to sound grunge and metal, my Boss Katana Mini doesn't do that

[haughty girder]

oh so you're using digital pedals?

[cunning nimbus]

Ah, GPT's information cutoff is september 2021. That's why the advice might seem old

I have no pedals. I don't know what they're used for

[haughty girder]

ye, you'd need to ask binggpt for newer info

[cunning nimbus]

My fender goes to the amp. It sounds alright for Viva La Vida, but not nirvana

[haughty girder]

I'd recommend you google it, basically it's physical circuits that change the sound of the analogue signal (out of the guitar)

[cunning nimbus]

[haughty girder]

If you want rock then you'll want a distortion (overdrive) or fuzz pedal + maybe a compressor

There's a lot to go through with pedals

[cunning nimbus]

I just want metal

[haughty girder]

Metal is a genre

You want to send a clip of something ?

[cunning nimbus]

Hetfield and Herman

[haughty girder]

ok so what you're looking for is a distortion pedal

overdrive

[cunning nimbus]

Give me an hour or so. I've got showering and chores

[haughty girder]

maybe a reverb as well

[cunning nimbus]

[daring escarp]

what good headphones/earphones/earbuds/over ear/on ear/in ear/anything that fits into ear can i get for $50/4500 INR ?

ping me when replying

[unique wind]

Tangzu Wan'er
7hz Salnotes Zero
Truthear x Crinacle Zero
QKZ X HBB Khan

are any of those available for you? they're in ear monitors

[cobalt sparrow]

totally confirmed new etymotic ear tips with a warm sound signature and tight bass

[daring escarp]

these ? could not find the 3rd one and when i searched for them the 2nd one kept showing

[unique wind]

what the hell why are the qkz x hbb khan so expensive for you

theyre the equivalent of 3300INR here

out of the ones you can buy the tangzu wan'er are the better ones

[daring escarp]

whats the bang for the buck

and whats the best one out of them disregarding price

[unique wind]

khan is the best but do not pay 9000inr for those

wan’er is better than salnotes zero

[daring escarp]

is there a big difference between the non khan and khan version

let me search on other sites

[unique wind]

yes they’re completely different

the non khan isn’t worth buying at all

[daring escarp]

they dont have much reviews though so i will check if the seller is legit just incase

@unique wind how about this

are those better than the tangzu

[cunning nimbus]

I don't get those terms

[haughty girder]

wtf why is there a drywall anchor attached

please don't tell me you (or whoever's picture that is) actually tried to use it

[cunning nimbus]

Drywall anchor

[cobalt sparrow]

it's reddit, what can I say

[haughty girder]

yes

[cobalt sparrow]

extra bass extension

[haughty girder]

Basically reverb adds an echo which can help with basically giving sense of space

Distortion/fuzz/overdrive adds.... distortion and makes tones sound gritty if that makes sense

[cunning nimbus]

I want that sound

Alright, how does a pedal work?

[haughty girder]

Compression/limiters basically limit or scale down volume past a threshold

[haughty girder]

You'd be better off googling this on yt, they'd do a better job explaining

[cunning nimbus]

Alright

[daring escarp]

@unique wind how long does it take to get used to new IEMs ?

[haughty girder]

depends

I got used to the wan'er in like, seconds

Chu was also in a few seconds

[daring escarp]

because im paranoid i will regret the sound of new expensive headphones

[haughty girder]

Tin t2 was a week

[daring escarp]

because of this 1 post i saw on reddit

[haughty girder]

tangzu waner, truthear hola and truthear zero are all very safely tuned

[daring escarp]

should i go to a offline store and hear them just in case

[haughty girder]

tin t3+ is really weird I don't blame em

blon bl03 was only recommended like 2 years ago because it was better than kz

they're not good by any means

[haughty girder]

you can't try IEMs out

[daring escarp]

why ?

[haughty girder]

hygiene issues

You'll just have to take my word for it, they're all good

[daring escarp]

well the last shop i went to the guy wore the earphones to see if they were working and then gave it to me to test it like wtf

[daring escarp]

it was like a local shop on the side of the street tho

[haughty girder]

the IEMs that require someone to know what they want (ie. moondrop Chu, tin t2, etc.) I wouldn't recommend to a newbie

[daring escarp]

hmm i see

[daring escarp]

is going from my realme Buds 2 Neo to TANGZU WAN’ER a huge jump ?

[haughty girder]

I've never tried the real me buds 2 neo, but know that the wan'er are wired, and the tuning will likely expose missing frequencies in the buds 2, as is the case with a lot of cheap tws

[daring escarp]

truthear zero ($48) or TANGZU WAN’ER ($24) @haughty girder

[haughty girder]

Your choice

If you want punchy bass, zero

if you just want something that is overall decent, wan'er

[daring escarp]

OK

[unique wind]

yes those are similar to the khans that i recommended

[cunning nimbus]

Found it
https://youtu.be/RttNJxF0eU0

Any opinions on these?

• Digitech TL2 extreme metal
• MXR Bullfore metal
• boss metal core ml2

[daring escarp]

but those are double price of tangzu wan'er

i will go with wan'er

[dry stratus]

The kinda eartips I need for In ears to stay in:

[cunning nimbus]

Okay, I'm set on the core ml2

[unique wind]

👍

[daring escarp]

how good is corsair hs60 ?

compared to wan'er

[haughty girder]

hs60 is trash

[tame vault]

Does anyone know if it's possible to use the Sonos Line-In Adapter to add a 3.5mm input to something like a Raspberry Pi?

[haughty girder]

they're all fine

[molten lotus]

we don't really know much about best of bad sounding items

and sound bars fit into that criteria

[haughty girder]

honestly, with soundbars, you're not looking for quality

just go to bestbuy, find a cheap one that sounds good enough to you and buy it

[dull rover]

Could someone explain to me why my Galaxy S5 Neo has the best built in DAC outta any device in my house?

[bitter hollow]

people used to use wired audio a lot more

[dull rover]

Yeah I know, but it’s like noticeably better, and I thought the older iPhones had decent built in DACs 😂

Looks like this thing is gonna be my new “MP3 player”, the battery life it gets is insanely good too, and I got Android 12 on it

It’s apparently a 24/192DAC

[lean grove]

That doesn't mean much

[dull rover]

Nah I know, but 24bit on a 2015 phone is pretty cool

Iirc iPhones were 24/48

I just know this S5 Neo sounds way more of a deep and open sound compared to anything else I have

[tepid torrent]

Because obviously everything else in your house sucks

[dull rover]

Also could someone recommend me a pair of Sennheisers? Wired 3.5mm and closed back are my only requirements

[tepid torrent]

Why sennheisers

Sennheiser doesnt make good closed backs

[dull rover]

No shit really? I never said I was an audiophile

[tepid torrent]

Unless you count their iems

Shop by model not brand

[dull rover]

I just want a good pair of over ears with good balanced sound, with a little more emphasis on the lows

[tepid torrent]

K361/k371

[dull rover]

For about $200CAD, could go a little higher, but not by much

[tepid torrent]

K371

[unique wind]

sennheiser hd560s or akg k371, depending on if you want open or closed

[tepid torrent]

They said closed back

I would have recommended HD560s if they didnt care

[unique wind]

yeah k371 is perfect then

[tepid torrent]

I wish there were more good closed backs

[lean grove]

Just duct tape over the grills to convert them to closed backs 🦭

[unique wind]

real

you can make your own though

[tepid torrent]

But then the sound will stick to the tape

[unique wind]

buy a measurement rig and make corrective eq for a closed back that’s tuned poorly

[tepid torrent]

I know plenty of people making their own, just waiting for then to finish them

[dull rover]

Alright, I’ll have to pick them up sometime soon, I know AKG is an awesome brand

[tepid torrent]

Making good headphones isnt easy

[unique wind]

no i don’t mean literally making them

[tepid torrent]

Not really

[unique wind]

just buy a comfortable well built closed back that’s tuned poorly, throw it on a measurement rig, and make a corrective eq profile

[dull rover]

Okay then bro 💀

[tepid torrent]

EQ isnt magic

[unique wind]

it is

[tepid torrent]

No it isnt

[unique wind]

it is

[tepid torrent]

It wont make a bad headphone good

[dull rover]

It is

[unique wind]

it will

[tepid torrent]

Itll still be a bad headphone

[dull rover]

It will

[unique wind]

if there aren’t any extreme dips or humps that aren’t fixable and the driver is low distortion then yes eq can fix a bad headphone

[lean grove]

Good. Gets rid of the backwave.

[tepid torrent]

Which is great for audeze planars but go eq a razer kraken

[dull rover]

Who said anything about a gaming headset yo

[tepid torrent]

Go eq a HD600 even

[dull rover]

Okay

[lean grove]

Can't EQ dynamics.

[dull rover]

I will

[buoyant vale]

How do I EQ the clamp?

[tepid torrent]

What the fuck

[unique wind]

download a better head shape

[buoyant vale]

none of these sliders do anything

[tepid torrent]

It was an example

[dull rover]

Too bad

[tepid torrent]

??

[dull rover]

!!

[unique wind]

i kinda wanna get my own rig

and a colorimeter for my displays

[tepid torrent]

B&K 5128 is waiting

[unique wind]

sennheiser driver distortion be like

200-20000hz: we chillin

bass: oh my god what the fuck

[tepid torrent]

Sometimes I hate sennheiser

[dull rover]

I thought you said shop by model, not brand, then how can you hate a brand?

I’ll stop shit talking 😂

[unique wind]

i hate sennheiser because they can’t decide if they wanna make S tier headphones or F tier headphones

they do both simultaneously

[tepid torrent]

Well this is different, because as a whole, their headphones are usually mediocre, then they have 3 good ones

[unique wind]

mediocre is generous

[tepid torrent]

And between those 3-4 good ones, there is unit variation fuckery

[dull rover]

That’s the worst

[tepid torrent]

And 2 of those 4 have some qualities that people hate such as their initmate stage and 3 blob imaging

I dont care about that because stage in headphones isnt good

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

HD800 has too much treble and good stage and imaging for a headphone

[dull rover]

Also what are some good cheap IEMs that I can throw in my bag without the worry of breaking them

[unique wind]

imaging is almost entirely frequency response based

[hollow osprey]

Thoughts on new hyperx cloud 3?

[unique wind]

they made a new one oh no

[tepid torrent]

HD560s has too much treble and decent imaging

HD600 is arguably the best tonally and the worst for stage

HD600 is the best one

Fight me

[buoyant vale]

580>

[tepid torrent]

You are stupid

[unique wind]

560s and 600 are the best sennies if you don’t wanna eq

[tepid torrent]

Nvm

580

[dull rover]

We all are

[tepid torrent]

They dont make 580 anymore so it doesnt count

650BS also doesnt count

Or HD540

[unique wind]

your mama

[buoyant vale]

I just know BS 580> SS 600

[unique wind]

i wouldn’t buy a headphone that has bass distortion while not even having linear bass extension

[hollow osprey]

590 are the best

[unique wind]

how you gonna be like -6db at 20hz and still have distortion

[tepid torrent]

Worst unit variation out of all of them

[buoyant vale]

my two sound pretty similar 🤷‍♂️

[tepid torrent]

Good for you

[unique wind]

i don’t really care about anything below 50hz but still that’s just wack

[tepid torrent]

I didnt say all of them have unit variation

Just most of them

[unique wind]

conpin is a result of human unit variation

[unique wind]

i don’t think any headphones would fit this man’s head

[tepid torrent]

“Wahh HD600 no stage no image, my 40 year old stax that might break if a breeze blows through my window is a better option”

Anyway im done

[unique wind]

maybe 1266 but those are barely deserving of the name headphones

they’re practically electronic waste straight out of the factory

[lean grove]

Who

[buoyant vale]

he joined SG awhile ago, probably someone there

[tepid torrent]

Wdym who, you know who

[tepid torrent]

Not even sg bro

Some rando on the interwebs

[unique wind]

are there any objectivist audio discord servers

[buoyant vale]

kinda

[unique wind]

or just youtube reviewer wanking servers

[tepid torrent]

But sg ppls def said that at some point

[lean grove]

I know who but I don't think they're ever on LTT. Just seemed like you brought that up out of nowhere.

[tepid torrent]

I didnt realize I was still in LTT ngl

[lean grove]

You know you're in LTT because Michael is here

He only hangs out in the lowest of the low-fi servers

[buoyant vale]

[tepid torrent]

Who tf michael

Oh wait nvm

Im braindead

[dull rover]

Anyone?

[tepid torrent]

Truthear hola

[dull rover]

Thanks bud

Looks like they even come with a decent cable

[unique wind]

[cunning nimbus]

Can i use my inears for guitar practice

[lean grove]

why wouldnt you be able to

[molten lotus]

560s sure but hd600?

too much bass falloff

[lavish warren]

Does HD58x remedy this?

[molten lotus]

maybe but at the cost of other things

[lean grove]

Not in the right way. So they blow up the entire bass, not just solid bass extension. And they reduce treble. So you just get something overly warm.

[dry stratus]

true enough

[rocky spruce]

Is there good speaker for less then 100 or 130 euro?

And is there also good head phone?

[dry stratus]

banned for saying you used alt here

[lavish warren]

sounds like you have “golden ears” on your resume

they’re gone now

[dry stratus]

Nah, they online/idle

[lavish warren]

Which one

You show me

[dry stratus]

All

[lavish warren]

I’m too lazy for that

Rest assured they’re 6ft under

[dry stratus]

Who’s “this guy”

[lavish warren]

You

[dry stratus]

Still head above ground?

[lavish warren]

insert big brother

[lavish warren]

You want me to go too?

[dry stratus]

6ft under but they are 6’1

[lavish warren]

Then I should add, 6ft under 6’1 down

[dry stratus]

Why?

[lavish warren]

Dunno your name just stuck

[dry stratus]

Just first 3 letters of my name

[lavish warren]

What?

[dry stratus]

First name starts with con, family name starts with pin

So con-pin

[lavish warren]

Oh lol

[dry stratus]

Its simple, but somehow used no where

Username is still unused on all platforms I don’t use it on

[lavish warren]

Take the “N” and hyphen out and you get most apple shills

Add a g

[dry stratus]

Change o to i for cin-pin

[lavish warren]

nvm warship has a missile lock on me

Can’t say what’s similar

[dry stratus]

Change your pfp to zeos looking creepy

[lavish warren]

No

[dry stratus]

Yes

[lavish warren]

I like my bright fish who drinks water to breathe 😄

Ahm

[dry stratus]

Your guess:

[lavish warren]

Where’s the neck noose

[dry stratus]

Look at dm

[molten lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvyvwlowHWM

[fast charm]

Does anybody happen to know how to change youtube premium's audio codecs? I have audio sensitivities due to having autism and I can't listen to any of my favorite creators anymore due to the pitches it gives off and these people including this channel have really expensive audio setups so it shouldn't be a problem but it massively is.

[dry stratus]

Or just get a better headphone

Because that just sounds like a hardware issue

[fast charm]

I have a really nice pair. Tried several Bluetooth speakers and expensive headphones and they all give same results

Its either a youtube issue or pixel 5 issue

[dry stratus]

Probably what you call a nice pair is not considered good by those in audio

[fast charm]

I used a shure se215 and moondrop aria with apple usbc jack

[dry stratus]

Probably just a specific frequency range

Codecs shouldn’t be boosting frequencies by anything

[fast charm]

I just want to flip between different ones to find the best because the current one is bad for me.

Idk where to find the setting

[buoyant vale]

I don't think thats a thing

[wet stratus]

Here's some really weird shit happening to me.
I'm on windows 11, and the bluetooth toggle just randomly apppears and disappears. i.e. if bluetooth was turned on, and the toggle disappears, well now i'm disconnected. A few seconds later it does reappear, but it is pretty frequently happening so, very annoying.
One particular thing i've noticed is that this also tends to happen when i hit rewind 5s using the left arrow on youtube. Any ideas anyone?

Also sometimes, the toggle just doesn't return unless i hold the power button manual reboot the laptop.
(yes, doing a regular restart doesn't fix it.)

[haughty girder]

YouTube has no premium codec

when yt music is essentially capped at a 256mp3

Yt (normal) has no chance

[lyric plank]

I want to be able to play switch games docked to my PC, and in order to make that work, I have it set up such that the switch dock is hooked up to my main monitor, and that monitor's audio output is plugged into the line-in port on the back of my PC, then I just turn on "listen to this device" for that line-in. This makes it so that I can use my PC and switch at the same time and have them output through the same speakers or headphones. Only problem with that is, the monitor's audio output is absurdly quiet, meaning it requires either powered speakers or an amplifier. My desk is already a mess of cables though, so I'm not sure how I'd set up an amp. What should I get to make this work?

[molten lotus]

it isn't mp3

its aac

[unique wind]

i can jam out to some youtube music videos and it doesn’t bother me

i believe regular videos are all 192kbps

[digital cypress]

is there somewhere I can look up how many ohms my motherboard amp can deliver?

I wanna buy an 80 ohm headset but deciding if I reaaaally need the external dac-amp, or not yet

[lean grove]

ohms dont work like that

[digital cypress]

oh

im honestly really new at this lmao

[lean grove]

if its the beyerdynamic 80 ohm version, anything north of a mcdonlads toy should be able to power it

which is to say most things will be fine with it

[digital cypress]

nice

what about the 250 ohm one

[lean grove]

i had a 250 ohm and there wasn't anything that i found that couldn't get reasonably loud

if you're the type of person who listens really loud or turns up the volume to max to listen to footsteps, then you might be hitting the limit of what your motherboard can put out

[digital cypress]

oh not really no, I wanna keep my ears still

but that's good to know that it could still be usable with the onboard amp

and if I want more sound then yeah an external amp

[lean grove]

yeah. there's only a handful of headphones which aren't usable with default headphone jacks.

and they're all $$$

like. $1000 at least. or only available on ebay because they're vintage.

[digital cypress]

yeah at that point you should invest in a nice setup outside of the headphones themselves

someday im gonna get me some vinyl

[molten lotus]

go for that one instead

you can power it pretty easily

[haughty girder]

192 opus, not vbr iirc

for yt music

128 opus for videos

detail wise is roughly equivalent to 256 and 192mp3 respectively

oh nvm yt music caps out at 256aac/opus

[molten lotus]

ye

not the same as youtube premium

[unique wind]

i pay for youtube but don’t use youtube music

[molten lotus]

honestly is 256aac indistinguishable compared to 320mp3

most sources claim this and ive never tested it

[unique wind]

i think the gear you’re using matters dramatically more than such a small compression difference

[molten lotus]

yes

still

I want an answer

[unique wind]

test it

[molten lotus]

because according to claims they are the same fidelity

one is just better compressed

but aac is closed source lol

[unique wind]

what does apple music use for lossless

do they use their alac or whateve

[molten lotus]

no idea

probably alac

its difficult to believe there is room for improvement in terms of audio compression honestly

[unique wind]

yes i read into it they do aac and alac

it’s not really necessary to improve anymore

[molten lotus]

just higher compression and pushing their ecosystem

[unique wind]

storage density and network speeds are increasing super fast and eventually flac/alac are going to be laughably insignificant data rates

[molten lotus]

true

but still

cutting corners is something always desirable for any company

just because you got the bread to do it doesn't mean you want to

just pay some dude to do it better and save your company like 1% more income

[unique wind]

gotta save $0.02 for every unit sold even if it makes the product much worse

capitalism 👍

[fast charm]

I don't have normal. I pay for premium. I just was told you might could change to a different codec. But thank you for your answers.

[haughty girder]

yes this is the conversion I use, aac. 192aac = 256mp3, 256aac = 320mp3, etc.

From my testing they're similar enough that it's good enough approximation

[molten lotus]

interesting

how do the file sizes compare

[haughty girder]

It becomes a little more complicated when vbr comes into play

aac is far more efficient

Smaller for same quality

[molten lotus]

very interesting

[unique wind]

it’s time for a new compression algorithm

[haughty girder]

nah

opus is fine

[unique wind]

new one

better better better now

[haughty girder]

Eh

Just make everything variable bitrate

The current compression algorithms for aac vbr is pretty good

mp3 is only around nowadays for compatibility

[unique wind]

h.264 and mp3 forever ❤️

[haughty girder]

we all know how mqa went

[unique wind]

we do not speak of such things

[molten lotus]

mqa straight up lied in their advertisement

that's different

[unique wind]

mangled quality audio ™️

[steel escarp]

my denons looked like this

now they all fresh

nobody told me dt880 headband would fit

[unique wind]

back from the dead

[steel escarp]

still murder treble

[exotic schooner]

i need recomendations for a wireless headset that charges via type c
decent mic required
NO CORSAIR! im tired of there trash software

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell

[exotic schooner]

i need to add two more things here
budget range 100-200
also id like to swap over my ZMF oval earpads to the new headset

[steel escarp]

fucking around with the stock tuning

https://tenor.com/view/find-out-goof-gif-27488654

he gonna find out

[exotic schooner]

tuning is the one thing i cant figure out lol

[steel escarp]

pretty much do not fuck with the stock pads

[steel escarp]

that thing standing on the desk

💀

no stand

[exotic schooner]

yes its a little bookshelf

[steel escarp]

140Hz spike

bloated bass due to reflections from the desk

[exotic schooner]

my desk setup is not for sound quality tbh

velodyne hgs15 in a 4.3 cubic foot box

i really do want to find another sony es amp and set these speakers up correctly

[rocky spruce]

Anyone got good cheap speaker or head phone?

[unique wind]

if they existed we’d tell you man

headphones under a hundred are poop

[rocky spruce]

And for speaker?

@unique wind please tell me some or them exist

[molten lotus]

creative pebbles are decent

for speaker

[haughty girder]

I wish K361 were back down to 80usd

[unique wind]

we’re not allowed to have nice things

[cunning nimbus]

Is if better to get a used pedal or a new pedal?

[haughty girder]

no point not getting used

pedals last forever

[exotic schooner]

iv had decent expernice with the polk t50's and some of the mointor series polk audio
klispch makes a really nice desktop speaker system with a 6,5 inch subwoofer included but they are like 200 for the GOOD speaker set

[ivory widget]

does anyone know what this little metal thing is called

I found a old arm in the garage but its missing this piece, does anyone know where i could find a replacement?

[tepid torrent]

ksc75

[dry stratus]

Not really a headphone

They clip to your ears

Kph30i

[tepid torrent]

Wrong

Just because ear clip doesnt mean its not a headphone

And you can get a headband mod

[exotic schooner]

wasnt there a pair of philips that was under 100? that were actually pretty decent

i cant remeber the damn model number

[dry stratus]

It ain’t a headphone if it don’t even touch the head, its closer to an earphone design wise

[exotic schooner]

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHP9500S-Precision-Over-ear-Headphones/dp/B00ENMK1DW/ref=sr_1_3?

its like people who call airpods headphones

or earbuds lol

[dry stratus]

Too painful

[exotic schooner]

are those uncomfortable?

[tepid torrent]

Bad

[exotic schooner]

weird i remember hearing so many good reviews about them

[dry stratus]

Bright af

[tepid torrent]

mfw reddit so called "reviewers" hear a headphone

Its not good

Reddit likes it, people with any listening capabilities dont

[exotic schooner]

i was going to buy a pair of those but landed on the corsair vitroso's cuz wireless

[rocky spruce]

200? Im too broke for that

[exotic schooner]

i would try to find some used polks on marketplace if you are on a tight budget

[dry stratus]

Don’t those have a massive hole in their sound

[exotic schooner]

tbh i have not noticed it

i dont listen to music just watching vids and games

and there app is so trash the eq barely works

[dry stratus]

Why do they have barley?

[exotic schooner]

i dont have autocorrect lol

[rocky spruce]

This?

[exotic schooner]

i would get there bookshelfs

polk t15's are decent for budget

[drowsy sigil]

Does anybody know a good microphone review channel? looking to tryout streaming but dont wanna blow a bunch of money on something i might not enjoy

[west crypt]

is the 512 audio tempest any good?

[ivory tangle]

are the HD400S good

[ivory tangle]

what are some good headphones under 120 aud

[unique wind]

iems r better

[muted mural]

ok so im considering changing my headphones for gaming use and music use

i currently use hyper x cloud 2s wired

im considering EPOS PC38X in black but not sure how it sounds for music

closed back with anc would be nice aswell

my budget is around 400 pound

[unique wind]

well pc38x is the exact opposite of closed back with anc but it has excellent tuning

[cunning nimbus]

I think the pc is fine

I'm eventually going to use it with a wh1000xm4

[gleaming summit]

So, I need a new mic/headset for my laptop and Xbox because i rather buy one for both.

I kinda need help finding a good headset that works with both and is worth the money.

I am currently using a Blackshark v2 pro and it's kinda dying, the cord is ruined and the audio is slowly going.

I would love to help thank you.

[bitter hollow]

Audeze maxwell if you can afford it

[leaden cloak]

Podcastage does a good job. He has a video on budget mics

[gleaming summit]

Anything on the cheaper side?

[bitter hollow]

I think HyperX cloud 2s are supposed to be decent?

[rocky spruce]

Do this work whitout an amplifier ?

[buoyant vale]

https://youtu.be/0arQra-fJ9M

[rocky spruce]

How is that usefull for me ?

And what is this supposed to mean

And how good is hyperx cloud 2?

[buoyant vale]

that is the best thing to do with dt990s

[rocky spruce]

Why tf

?

[rocky spruce]

Why

[buoyant vale]

because they suck

[rocky spruce]

I tried one and they felt good, why do they suck?

[buoyant vale]

they are tuned very poorly

dt880>

[rocky spruce]

Are they good? From same Brand?

And is it fluffy

[lean grove]

yes yes and yes

[rocky spruce]

and does it need an amplifier?

[lean grove]

only the 600 ohm one needs an amp

the 250 ohm will do fine without one

[rocky spruce]

So its good? I can take it right?

[lean grove]

yeah

[rocky spruce]

Finally i found a cheap Headset that doesnt suck ass

250 ohm is good enougfot gaming? h

[silk solar]

Yeah

It’s like 990 with out the treble spike

[rocky spruce]

Well thats neat

[lyric solstice]

I have the DT1990 PROs, which are also 250 ohm, and they definetely dosound better with an amp

[rocky spruce]

I do not have the money for an. Amp

[lyric solstice]

they sound fine without depending on what you're listening through, however they need an amp to reach their full potential

what audio interface are you using?

[silk solar]

And the more ohms the more resistantance to volume

[rocky spruce]

What?

Im just plugging it into Phone, mobo and steam deck

[silk solar]

Depends how loud you listen, that should tell you if you need an amp or not.

What headphones are you using currently? And how loud do you listen to them?

[rocky spruce]

Im using speaker

[rocky spruce]

I like it not to noisy idk

[silk solar]

Around what volume?

[silk solar]

If you are under 65% on 10 watt speakers, you should be fine with no amp

[rocky spruce]

Idk lol

I wont buy a amp anyway since im broke and ill use it for travel

[silk solar]

You should be fine with no amp then

[rocky spruce]

Gréât

Thanks for helping me out instead of telling me to invest more money

[silk solar]

And also you can always buy an amp later down the road, when you have more budget if it’s not enough volume

(Usually) the only thing an amp will give you is more volume, when you have more ohms in headphones, it will take you more power (volume in this case) to get to the same sound level

And an amp has more power

[rocky spruce]

Meh i dont need more volume

[silk solar]

Although if you aren’t the person to blast music 24/7, your phone and other devices should provide plenty more power

Although Beyerdynamic does have a 32 ohm version, which might sacrifice on sound quality, but it will be easier to get them to a certain noise amount

[rocky spruce]

I dont Listen to music

I just want it for gaming

And i hâte loud noise

[silk solar]

Ok, you shouldn’t need an amp

Oh and what phone are you using?

[rocky spruce]

Idk

[silk solar]

Most phones should be fine though

[rocky spruce]

Mi i9 lyte

[silk solar]

Oh, that phone should have plenty of power for the headphones

Yeah, I don’t think you need an amp

[rocky spruce]

Nice

[lyric solstice]

just to add, an amp is not only to make your headphones louder, theres also a noticeable improvement in dynamic range, and frequence response with a good amp

[silk solar]

I tried to convey this by saying (usually) in another message, but I thought for his use an amp isn’t mandatory

[lean grove]

1990s are very efficient, much more efficient than the 880s.

[lyric solstice]

i have'nt tried the 880s

[sudden epoch]

okay so do I need to fiddle with anything to get decent quality or

for reference, it's a Scarlett Solo hooked to ATH-M50x headphones

[ivory tangle]

what are some good headphones under 120 aud

[magic finch]

can somebody help the audio on my pc only comes out one ear

[molten skiff]

is there a good cable for the 560s I can get so extend cable length

My pc a bit far away so need more length

[unkempt bolt]

Limiter 😂

[leaden cloak]

What are some good car subwoofers?

More specifically, a 2023 Honda Civic. It’s for my brother. I don’t have a budget as I don’t really know what they cost

Please ping me with any suggestions

[haughty moon]

jl audio make some really nice stuff ... might want to look into that

[leaden cloak]

ill check em out

i saw some focal ones which was interesting

[haughty moon]

focal are also really good

[leaden cloak]

What about Kenwood? That’s an audio brand I’m familiar with?

Just asking cuz some website I was looking at had all three

[haughty moon]

i would go focal or jl audio

[leaden cloak]

alright ill look into them. thank you

[haughty moon]

no problem

[leaden cloak]

and another question. is it better to get a box sub or a standalone driver

im guessing box but i saw a lot of drivers just on their own

[haughty moon]

I would get the sub and the box made for it ... jl audio usually have the specs and drawings of the box for each of their sub on their website

each sub needs a certain enclosure volume

unless you want to go custom, I would get something prebuilt ... way easier

[leaden cloak]

Yeah makes sense. Alright cool, thanks for the info

[haughty moon]

no problem

you can also look for used stuff on your local market

[leaden cloak]

true true

[haughty moon]

also you might want to check car audio fabrication youtube channel

[leaden cloak]

mk

and do i need a certain sub for certain cars or is it mostly the same?

[haughty moon]

the bigger the car, the more air you want to move

to move more air, you need more cone surface area ...

[leaden cloak]

his car is a civic (sedan/hatchbatch) so yeah i guess ill need one not super big

[haughty moon]

there's a lot of combination you can get between 1x 15" or 2x 12" or 2x 10" or 3x 8" depending of the space you have

[leaden cloak]

that one might be too big lol

[haughty moon]

which one is best that I don't know

depend of the trunk space you want to keep

[leaden cloak]

uh i was thining (assuming that means driver) 1 x however much space he feels he doesnt need. its probably gonna be a smaller one

[haughty moon]

he might have some video about how to chose the right sub for the car

[leaden cloak]

do you need an amp as well?

[haughty moon]

yes

[leaden cloak]

ah

gonna have to look into that as well

[haughty moon]

you probably can get some combo in a local shop

[leaden cloak]

hmm...maybe

well alright i know what i need now

[haughty moon]

check if the radio has rca out

to plug in the amp

[leaden cloak]

trying to find out but im not getting a clear answer besides taking it out myself

[haughty moon]

if it's oem radio it probably won't have rca out

[leaden cloak]

yeah that was my guess

[haughty moon]

then you'll need to get an amplifier that will be able to take high level input from the speakers ... or a kind of converter box that will take the speaker signal and output rca

for those you should talk to a car audio shop if there's one near you

[leaden cloak]

i saw that i might need a line out converter

this is gonna be harder than i thought

[haughty moon]

it's more than just adding a sub yes

[leaden cloak]

i guess this sketcty thing exists

ah well it aint my car im just getting the stuff

[haughty moon]

look sketchy but yeah that would probably do the trick supposing you can find one for the specific car model

[leaden cloak]

that one is supposedly the one for it

[haughty moon]

that's good then

[leaden cloak]

alright i also found a form of someone doing it on a last gen civic soooo i think im set for knowing what to do. time to pick some parts

you know any good subs with a built in amp? or is it better to do it seperate?

this might be the one i go for

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_136110W0V3/JL-Audio-CP110-W0v3.html?tp=112

[haughty moon]

seperate amp would be the way to go

[leaden cloak]

alright cool. this one doesnt have one so ill have to look for one in a second

which ones do you recommend

[haughty moon]

they should have some amps on their websites too

[leaden cloak]

ill have a look

any specific brands to look at?

[haughty moon]

jl audio and focal

they do make good amps

[leaden cloak]

alright thank you

found this one

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_13698362/JL-Audio-JD500-1.html?tp=35834

hows sony for amps? i found one that was about $100 cheaper and wanted to compare

[tough lava]

I'd get JL every time before sony

[leaden cloak]

mk

then i think i have all the info and stuff i need besdies wire

[tough lava]

ferrules? lugs? heatshrink? crimper?

[leaden cloak]

i know have heatshrink and a crimper

[tough lava]

big enough for the power cable?

[leaden cloak]

im guessing no

what gauge are power cables usually?

[tough lava]

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