audio-tech

[haughty girder]

since the treble seems relatively even up top, you could legitamately do it with one filter

Get it to be at least acceptable

[unique wind]

you can make it acceptable but it’s still very weird

oratory made a profile for it and it’s still not great

dt990 is unironically dramatically better after eq

[haughty girder]

still too dampened

[dry stratus]

+6db 4.5khz or smth?

[dry stratus]

Imagine doing dt990 eq when 880 exists

[haughty girder]

yea that...

but 880 black edition is worse

[unique wind]

if you’re willing to eq i would say 990 is better

[haughty girder]

they also added a shit ton of dampening on the dt880 for the black edition and made it horrible

[unique wind]

880 is only better if you’re not willing to eq

[haughty girder]

880 is also better built ;-;

[dry stratus]

Main issue with beyer is just treble and just like sennheiser sucks at closed backs
Technical ability is good

[haughty girder]

And 880 can also be eq'd

for me, I'd just get a k612 and call it a day

[dry stratus]

I want to get some wireless anc, just need to decide on which…
Basically just looking at airpods max, qc45 or momentum 4

[unique wind]

whatever 880 model oratory measured has massive mud stock but it’s absolutely superb with eq

[haughty girder]

wait

[dry stratus]

Airpods max surprisingly comfortable for the weight

[haughty girder]

yea they did rly good with that

[unique wind]

holy fuck what even is the 880 black edition

what is that shit

must be designed to listen to metal music which sounds terrible

[haughty girder]

yea I said that... they dampened the shit out of it

You can't even properly fix it with eq without modding it

[unique wind]

oratory seemed to manage

[haughty girder]

Only for tuning

[unique wind]

doing mods is going to change the FR in ways you won’t be able to tell without measuring it yourself

[haughty girder]

ofc

But the amount of foam in there

Is not helping

I'd rather remove the foam then eq by ear

than keep the foam

[unique wind]

that’s mad

[haughty girder]

I was so pissed off when I discovered the 880 blakc

because it actually looks clean

But it sounded so shit

[unique wind]

i haven’t used my headphones since static shock killed my magnius

[haughty girder]

LMAO

[unique wind]

i’ve just been using fiio utws5

[haughty girder]

Ykw fair

[dry stratus]

I haven't used my headphones for months

[haughty girder]

I haven't used anything but k361

Because headphones are just too big

[unique wind]

you should get k371 if u like k361 that much

it’s noticeably better tuned

[haughty girder]

And k361 are closed back and comfy for library

[haughty girder]

it really isn't

I used both before choosing

k361 is a bit brighter but the mid scoop also brings the bass out more

yes I'm calling it V shaped

But it's one of my preferred V shaped headphones

[unique wind]

it’s not really v shaped it just has weird treble

[haughty girder]

it's not that weird

[unique wind]

k371 nails treble stock tho

[haughty girder]

Yea?

So k361 can get shouty at times

But

[unique wind]

it’s mainly the higher treble that’s weird

[haughty girder]

it's not bad

[haughty girder]

it's fine

[unique wind]

it’s like -7db from 3 to 6khz man

and much more erratic overall

[haughty girder]

oh yea note about k361

the tuning changes a lot with fitment

[unique wind]

that might be why he measured it twice

[haughty girder]

there's less clamp on the k361

[unique wind]

i was curious why he did

[haughty girder]

So it's a lot pickier with head shape

[unique wind]

the overall presentation is pretty similar the 3-6k range is still wack

[haughty girder]

eh

it's fine

[dry stratus]

we need a headphone with 20db 2.5khz boost but bass roll off starting at 600hz

[haughty girder]

I reality I actually think k361 treble is fine but has a peak around 2.5k, rather than recession 3k+

[unique wind]

i sentence you to listen to kz x hbb pr2 for 10 hours

15db boost in the air frequencies

[haughty girder]

It actually does make sense given afaik k361 is Harman 2013 while 371 is Harman 2017

Except the bass on the k361 is closer to 2017 than 2013

[dry stratus]

@unique wind would you use the HD820 if I gave you one?

[haughty girder]

the mid scoop is 2013 tho

[haughty girder]

wait wut

[unique wind]

i would

i would eq it and use it

[haughty girder]

hd820 stock tuning is actually so funny

[dry stratus]

would you use TH909 on a darkvoice?

[haughty girder]

Tfw someone who attached two glass lens to an hd800 out of boredom got better tuning than the 820

[unique wind]

pasted the wrong image

impressive

that might not even be fixable

[dry stratus]

boost starting at like 800hz

[haughty girder]

#audio-tech message

This. This was tuned better.

[dry stratus]

hd820 and DT770/1770 FR looks similar to me

[haughty girder]

http://imgur.com/gallery/1Zq5CD8

[unique wind]

how the fuck did he fix it

[haughty girder]

i believe measured on minidsp ears

[unique wind]

i have a friend who loves dt1770

and refuses to eq them

[dry stratus]

why

[unique wind]

i don’t know

he won’t even humor me and try eq

[dry stratus]

at least better than 820 on FR

[unique wind]

he likes the mud

[dry stratus]

does he own raycon

presses report user
reason: he likes raycon

[haughty girder]

tbh

raycons aren't bad...

[unique wind]

nope

[haughty girder]

||as a gift for your worst enemy||

[unique wind]

there seems to be a heavy overlap between people who like mud and people who listen to metal

and other 70s-90s music

probably because most of it sounds like a cheese grater for your ears

[haughty girder]

yea cause the bassist is just standing there and they can't hear it

[dry stratus]

metal and dubstep fall within the category for me

"random noise blasted"

[unique wind]

dubstep has a lot better clarity

i haven’t listened to dub since i was 10 tho

[dry stratus]

you listen to weeb music probs

[haughty girder]

I was into dubstep in mid 2010s

Like 2013-2016

[unique wind]

would’ve been the same time frame for me

like 2013

[haughty girder]

I listen to kpop now....

[unique wind]

i’m born in 03

[haughty girder]

I'm also very picky with what I listen to

[dry stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmgjybTTnb4 for you

[unique wind]

surprisingly no

i only have like 3 OSTs on my playlist and no k-pop or jpop

[haughty girder]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4dwkFGcDNIuGyqFeDWIqqk?si=1jj9DvyETLGzW8b5KEfbwQ

one of the greatest showpieces IMO

[dry stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOg5DoYuwU I do like this tho honestly

[unique wind]

i do listen to a lot of modern music though

[haughty girder]

Eve....

[unique wind]

hyperpop and aggressive core music shit

[haughty girder]

oh I prefer more rock inspired pop

[dry stratus]

what about it?

j-pop is basically just pop-rock in the west honestly

[dry stratus]

basically just this kinda and classical I listen to at this point

[haughty girder]

https://open.spotify.com/track/72uSoNIf7eScfGZFQjNHrR?si=IK6JbM2FS-ChF7q9HyQrIA

I had a dramaturgy phase for like a month

[dry stratus]

they've got some nice stuff at least

I would die trying to listen to western pop tho...

closest I would go is imagine dragons there

[haughty girder]

anyways for vocal performances, here's a ballad that I (surprisingly) liked https://open.spotify.com/track/7HrCnwDvbtCKSZtpNDmII9?si=vSQQuRYDT2S9lO2Xr0bizg

it's also ancient

[dry stratus]

I would use HD6x0 for that

[haughty girder]

yes it sound great with 6xx

But

on any decent set of speakers

It's better

Oh yea that's why I don't use headphones

[dry stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfBHMucSxCA another is

[dry stratus]

god I hate speakers

prefer the way headphones sound

[haughty girder]

You're too close

A good room with good speakers

so good

songs like that ballad I sent you're not chasing after details

just tonality

[dry stratus]

I want to get to the point I could live in a 2x2 room while still having a place to cook, a large display (perceived display size in VR is fine) dishwasher, washing machine, a place to sleep, etc

[unique wind]

speakers are the way

[haughty girder]

imagine using dishwashers

[dry stratus]

imagine not using a dishwasher when you are a lazy pos that baked and boils at medium heat in glass bowls for an hour in the oven and gets food stuck to it

tfw trying to make food basically automatic

put it in a bowl, put it in the oven, done

[haughty girder]

...

my fav tool is probably my wok

[dry stratus]

I want to get a slow cooker and a combi microwave

just make an entire week worth of food easily

then put it in the microwave when needed

microwave because ovens are bigger

and combi microwave can still just do the same

[haughty girder]

...

[unique wind]

what do you do for fun conpin

[dry stratus]

wait until I can leave

my life right now: waiting until a place opens up in a city to start school and learn the stuff needed to get a job out of this country and move away

just wake up > eat > sleep > repeat

[unique wind]

wok op

[dry stratus]

requires you to stay near it, so no

[unique wind]

con i am increasingly not convinced of your humanity

[dry stratus]

why tho father

[unique wind]

you have peculiar behaviors and mannerisms

[dry stratus]

explain

[unique wind]

you hate people, bass, and food

and wish to live in a 2x2 room

[dry stratus]

so?

[lean grove]

He's built different

[haughty girder]

...

[dry stratus]

also, you forgot I can't handle 20'C without taking a shower every few hours but can go shirtless in -5'C

I came from mars

[unique wind]

you’re a hairless yeti

[muted mural]

be great if we had earbuds what are great for hifi and have passive and active noise cancelling

i like my samsung galaxy pro buds 2 but the nc is ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

[unique wind]

yeah i think all the options with good sound have mediocre noise cancelling unfortunately

galaxy buds like you said and akg n700nc m2

[muted mural]

for me so far i would have to say the best nc ive seen on stuff ive used the last 5 years would have to be the wh1000xm4s

[dry stratus]

best overall choice probably like airpods pro

[muted mural]

the nc on wf1000xm4 were very dissapointing

[dry stratus]

in terms of sound vs ANC quality

[muted mural]

there has to be a company making full nc earbuds with a good sound signature

[dry stratus]

kinda hard when noise cancelling actively f's with sound tho

[unique wind]

iems with foam tips block a shit load of noise

i can’t hear my window air conditioner unit 3 feet behind me when i use those

[dry stratus]

still waiting for in ears that actually stay in my ears...

[haughty girder]

no this is me

in the winter when the temps rose th -10 I was running around in just a t shirt

Super comfy temps

[dry stratus]

I prefer indoor temps around like 12'C

lower when outside because you wear clothes

the colder the easier to breathe

[unique wind]

until it gets too cold

[dry stratus]

-50?

[unique wind]

nah

[dry stratus]

-80

?

[unique wind]

no you’re going the wrong way

id say anything below sub 0 fahrenheit which is -18c

eventually the air starts to burn its so cold man

when you have to catch your breath anyway

[dry stratus]

starts to happen at 16'C already

gotta love cutting and burning parts of your airways at the hospital to try and be able to breathe properly

[haughty girder]

my preferred indoor temp is 19C, outdoor temp is around 10

I find it easiest to breathe then

[unique wind]

i like a solid 20c inside

[dry stratus]

I am already having issues breathing and its 20'C inside

just sitting in soaked clothing all day

tfw 27'C according to weather next monday... jfc

[unique wind]

ur sweating in 20c?

that’s unusual

[dry stratus]

more like a lack of sweating

[weak rapids]

Bro wtf

[silver cypress]

Anyone know of good speakers preferably usb compatible and dual like these

[weak rapids]

I prefer 27c

[white rampart]

Creative Pebble 2.0

[weak rapids]

I love Canada

Fuck spring in Canada

[white rampart]

Two plugs are used. USB to power, aux to send sound.

[dry stratus]

lel, coldest days there are the hottest days here

[silver cypress]

Aestheticly wise they don’t look too great as just small balls tho

[white rampart]

Balls look good tho

Imo

[silver cypress]

[weak rapids]

Huh?

[dry stratus]

this chat turning into a linus appreciation channel or smth

[weak rapids]

Oh wait nvm lol

Brain fried

3 days ago it was 31c, now its 13c

[dry stratus]

been up and down for now

[weak rapids]

This is the coldest may in a while

[silver cypress]

I wouldn’t get something just for sound I’d get something for sound and looks

[weak rapids]

Usually by now the temps have stabilized in the low and mid 20s

[white rampart]

But yeah, the creative Pebble speakers are definitely good if you're on a budget

[dry stratus]

4-7 days heat wave > 1 day rainstorm > 2-3 days colder > repeat

[silver cypress]

I just spent $2500 on a brand new built myself pc

[unique wind]

you can sometimes find klipsch promedia 2.1 open box for $50 on ebay in america

[silver cypress]

Budget isn’t in my vocabulary

[unique wind]

if that was available i’d never recommend the pebbles

[weak rapids]

Western Canada had a record breaking heatwave meanwhile

[unique wind]

but if you can’t get that deal pebbles are fine

[weak rapids]

Broke their may record highs

[dry stratus]

take a look at linus' pair

[silver cypress]

Is that a # ad

[white rampart]

Bose Companion 2

[silver cypress]

I’ll look at Linus and ^

[white rampart]

Why not?

[weak rapids]

Like bruh

[dry stratus]

looks similar temps wise to here

today was up to 16

next week gonna be hell again

[silver cypress]

Would these plug into monitor or usb to pc

Or somewhere else

[weak rapids]

Whats it gonna be?

[white rampart]

You'll probably want to look into that because I'm unsure. Amazon says USB and aux tho

[weak rapids]

This was the west coast may heatwave

[dry stratus]

basically just 23-29 kinda range next week

very shortly tho thankfully

[weak rapids]

Especially for Vancouver

[dry stratus]

quick drop back to 19

[weak rapids]

The dream

Best temps

Add a lil humidity to it

[dry stratus]

terrible temps

[weak rapids]

I love em

[dry stratus]

we need -20 to 15 or smth

[weak rapids]

Shorts and a tshirt

Lmao

[silver cypress]

You know what I didn’t realize what I had I thought I needed an upgrade just because I had it since 2020

But I have razer nommo chromas

I think I’ll be alright, the one issue I have is where my pc is located, my left speaker is on the right and the right left

Wires won’t work othwrwise

[dry stratus]

ew razer

[dry stratus]

?

[silver cypress]

That’s what I thought too at firsr

[white rampart]

What's wrong with Razer?

[silver cypress]

I bought everything razer in 2020 been slowly replacing with other stuff

Webcam used to be razer now it’s elgato

[dry stratus]

trash audio product creator

[silver cypress]

Mic razer now blueyeti

[weak rapids]

What

[silver cypress]

But the speakers I have are $200

So i think I’ll keep these

[white rampart]

Bose are much better tho.

[dry stratus]

why lmao

[silver cypress]

But no rgb

Rotating color w

I believe you that Bose is better

But nothing wrong with a $200 razer

[dry stratus]

rgb pook

[white rampart]

You using the Nommo?

[silver cypress]

Nommo chroma Ye

[lean grove]

You're only gonna find cheap USB powered speakers. USB can only deliver a couple of watts to speakers, which is barely anything.

[molten lotus]

heat is unbearable

[steel escarp]

dont tell class A amp enjoyers

[haughty girder]

lmao

a class A amp won't heat ur room the same way even a lower end pc will

[lean grove]

First watt f5 turbo moment.

[molten lotus]

you sure about that?

my class d made my room into a boiler room by itself

[haughty girder]

yea

Unless it's a speaker amp

[lean grove]

Oh.

Yeah I was thinking speaker amp

[haughty girder]

LMAO

[lean grove]

Class A for headphone amps are irrelevant yeah

Like ambient power draw of 15-30 watts? No shit

[haughty girder]

class A for speakers... yea that's a heater fr

[lean grove]

Ambient power draw of a 25 watts class A speaker amp is gonna be like 200 watts ish.

[haughty girder]

yeaaaaa

[hushed drum]

Wtf

Its around ~40’C in the summer where i live and its fine for me

[molten lotus]

what the fuck

[hushed drum]

Shirtless in fking -5

[molten lotus]

don't cells start dying at 45c

[hushed drum]

Are you crazy?

[hushed drum]

:/

Temperatures in a nearby place went upto 49’C

Last week

[molten lotus]

"Above a certain temperature, a cell will collapse and die. ... while E. coli withers above 40 degrees Celsius (104 degrees Fahrenheit)."

"While human body cells start to die anywhere 46-60 degrees celsius, temperatures of around 50 degrees is when most irreversible damage to cells"

[hushed drum]

:/

Then cells be dyin

😂

[molten lotus]

Internal temperature
As long as you drink enough water and cover your skin you’ll be okay

[hushed drum]

True

[lean grove]

Klaus doesn't know what homeostasis is

[hushed drum]

People prolly died during that time tho coz overpopulated country moment

[lean grove]

Is this 40c indoors or 40c outdoors

[hushed drum]

40C indoors and ~45 outdoors

[lean grove]

Woof

[hushed drum]

Without a/c

[lean grove]

Where is this? southeast Asia?

[hushed drum]

Yes

[lean grove]

No thank you.

[hushed drum]

Worlds largest population

🙂

[lean grove]

Only recently

[hushed drum]

Sadly we still have unaccounted for population

So eh

[hushed drum]

Dont know how to put it in words

But basically unregistered citizens

Also

Are beats any good anymore?

Or they dead?

[molten lotus]

they were never good

unfortunately

[bitter hollow]

Modern beats are fine

I mean, the most popular wireless headphone is what, the xm4?

[lean grove]

Fine!= Good

[pliant shadow]

what are the best wireless headphones for sound under $100?

[molten lotus]

hello again

lmao

[pliant shadow]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Marantz-Professional-MPM-4000U-Microphone-USB/436568377?from=/search is this a good mic for under $100

[molten lotus]

Beats are better than they were, but still not good

[haughty girder]

bro my preferred outdoor temp is -15C to 10C

It's where I can wear anything and be comfortable

more than 10? I'm sweating

less than -15? I'm forced to wear at least a hoodie

[molten lotus]

23c is maximum

at 23c you can survive with a wife beater

[haughty girder]

?????

[lean grove]

Klaus might be a lizard

[molten lotus]

humans were never meant to survive 24c

[unique wind]

youre smoking crack big dog

there are nomad tribes in africa that still do exhaustion hunting by running prey until they collapse in 40c weather

[molten lotus]

This is a shitpost, right

[unique wind]

bitter cold is substantially less hospitable than scorching heat for humans

[molten lotus]

24c is avg morning temperature here, like what

youve never been to a 24c place

if you had you wouldnt be here

[bronze jacinth]

I am looking at getting the AirPods Pro 2. Worth it or not?

[haughty girder]

Meh, I love snowboarding enough to not care

[unique wind]

it do be fun

[vivid garnet]

Anybody got recommendations for headphones around 50 dollars?

[hushed drum]

+1

[molten lotus]

depends on your definition of worth

they are excellent

but only you can say whether they are worth it or not

[unique wind]

if noise cancelling is important to you sure they’re good for that

[sharp zenith]

Any suggestions for 2.1 speakers for my pc?
I've had these since like 2008 and they've taken a beating over time from moving and whatnot: https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/SPA7351_27/analogue-retail-version
I really like the bass/sub of this setup and would like to replace it with something of equal/better quality

[haughty girder]

what's the budget?

[quaint torrent]

Which should I buy the a4000 or dunu Titan s they both sound so similar to me

[dry stratus]

would be dead if it were like that longer than like a few hours at most

[hushed drum]

You?

[dry stratus]

yes, already having issues now and its 19 inside

[hushed drum]

Ok 😂

[shell wigeon]

Im trying to get a headset for fps games like valorant these 4 kinda have what i want just dont know which is better :
1 - Steel Series Arctis 5
2 - Razer Blackshark v2
3 - Logitech G pro x
4 - HyperX cloud 2
If u have any other headset that is good and in same price range drop the name

[dry stratus]

cloud II about the only one

[shell wigeon]

even the new box?

ppl saying new box cloud II is worst or smth

[sharp zenith]

I mostly use headphones for better audio, so somewhere within the $100-300 range.
I'd be willing to spend more if the quality is better and you think they'll last me as long as my last set of speakers.

It's just nice to not always have to wear headphones and give my ears a break

[tepid torrent]

pc37x

or pc38x

Do you really need a headset?

[dry stratus]

Translation: do you need a crappy/mediocre microphone directly attached to your headphones

[shell wigeon]

yea i broke mine

[shell wigeon]

yea.. dont wanna spend too much on my a mic only thing i will be saying is game stuff

my budget is like 130 or 140

[dry stratus]

Can get better headphones for less and mics for like 20 that beat headset mics

Have better sound and better mic for same cost

[tepid torrent]

Well I didnt want to be rude

[shell wigeon]

i got 1 just not working well

[dry stratus]

Which is why “do you need it directly attached”

[shell wigeon]

for some reason i cant hear footsteps behind me'

[tepid torrent]

Thats not a headphone problem

Thats a game audio problem

[shell wigeon]

works fine with my brothers cloud ii

its just when i use this one

[solid dirge]

Are you using your brothers on your pc or his

[solid dirge]

Just something to consider assuming you look back here. Might be missing some setting on your pc, or drivers

[shell wigeon]

On mine

I tested it so i can see if its good

[molten lotus]

you were asking for headphone advice before

there you have it

get the cloud 2

they are nice

if possible get pc37x and if you have more money then pc38x

[unique wind]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325440610464?

tempting

[lean grove]

Shitty cable

[unique wind]

the cable is the iem itself basically

ive read it has a noisefloor at near max volume but i dont see that being a problem with sane volume listening

[lean grove]

The cable is thick and stiff

[unique wind]

as long as it isnt microphonic i dont think i will mind

i would prefer a standard cable but not much can be done about that

[lean grove]

It's microphonic

[molten lotus]

new beats studio buds+ look like a better alternative to airpods pros

[unique wind]

[unique wind]

naw theyre worse

i like the transparent design tho thats cool

[haughty girder]

I wish they had a gold logo for the clear one tbh

[sharp zenith]

I've got over 2k hours in CS:GO and the suggestion is to always ditch surround sound headphones
They manipulate the audio to make them sound "surround sound", but it distorts it and it makes it harder to place where sounds are coming from
Get a regular stereo headset. The HyperX Cloud Alphas are cheaper and the sound is better quality
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074NBSF9N

Unless you want to spend $300+ on a headset. If you want something better I'd recommend getting studio headphones and a separate mic. I use DT 770's and love them

Also, LTT already did a video on this https://youtu.be/-_JpAyWMeiQ

My workplace gives everyone HyperX Cloud 2's and I can tell you that they're much worse than the Alphas from personal experience

[unique wind]

sennheiser pc37x, although all you need are a solid pair of $20 in ear monitors to have good game audio

something like the Tangzu Wan'er

[steel escarp]

every time I listen to a dt770 I cringe so hard

[lean grove]

Why do you listen to a dt770

[steel escarp]

my coworker has one

she was showing me the edit she just made

[lean grove]

Bring your own headphones

[steel escarp]

I can't bring my open back headphones to work

and my denon ah-d5000 kill me if I listen too long

buying denons is like getting a mentally ill gf thinking you can fix her

you can't

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/george-seinfeld-gif-5624382

[weak rapids]

imagine you just using your $300 IEMs and one of those cringe mofos cuts the cord and gives you airpods

[lean grove]

Imagine thinking that's real

[weak rapids]

obv not

[shell wigeon]

why does ppl not like the G pro x even tho i saw alot of streamers use it?

[weak rapids]

cause its trash

[shell wigeon]

So getting a cloud alpha or cloud 2 is much better?

[lean grove]

Sennheiser

[shell wigeon]

i cant find them

In iraq

[lean grove]

Lo siento

[shell wigeon]

also is the arctis series good?

[steel escarp]

imagine not having detachable cables on IEMs

[unique wind]

streamers and pros use a lot of shitty gear because they're sponsored or dont know any better

being good at a game doesnt mean you know how the gear you're using works

[shell wigeon]

i had a hyperX cloud stinger core or smth it was mid asf but still useable so i kinda feel good going with hyperX its just werid that ppl overhyper the pro series and the only good thing is the mouse

[unique wind]

whered you get that picture of conpin

[weak rapids]

its obv not conpin, theres no glass of olive oil

[unique wind]

it's on the desk you just cant see it in the picture

[weak rapids]

you prob right

[dry stratus]

looks far diff from me anyway

[unique wind]

thats literally you

[dry stratus]

you wish

[unique wind]

it's quite literally you conpin

[dry stratus]

not a balding 40 year old

[dry stratus]

here, idc

[unique wind]

im just fucking with u dawg

[dry stratus]

ik

[topaz cypress]

I've been using headphones wrong my whole life.
I am now enlightened.

[molten lotus]

Are we posting our faces 💀

[dry stratus]

nah

we already know michael is a big girl

[sharp zenith]

If it's under $300 and it's surround sound, it's not good quality

[molten lotus]

Sorry if this is the wrong chat, but does anyone know of a good auto metadata tool?
My dumbass forgot itunes doesn't support FLAC, so I tried WAV and lost it all lmfao

[molten lotus]

Eh fuck it I’m just gonna rip the discs again as AAC

[unique wind]

dont expose me

[molten lotus]

ALAC is open source right

[molten lotus]

you can get non mentally ill girlfriends?

[steel escarp]

Have you heard of roon

The metadata features looked really good

[molten lotus]

I'm already re-ripping into ALAC

[unique wind]

apple loser audio codec

[molten lotus]

pain

[weak rapids]

Thoughts on focal elex

[unique wind]

💩

@lean grove @molten lotus @dry stratus did u guys see the new hifiman ananda nano and arya organic?

[molten lotus]

nope

[unique wind]

14ohm ananda with susvara inspired driver

[molten lotus]

🤔

Why do several IEMs with multiple drivers sound like the sound is stepping on itself

maybe it is

[unique wind]

what iems r u listening to

in theory having more driver types is good but it has to be executed well

[molten lotus]

do multiple driver iems have crossovers

[unique wind]

i would assume so because that would let them have more precise tuning

you can’t get moondrop variations frequency response with a single dynamic driver for example

(without eq)

[haughty girder]

I play valorant occasionally, my recommendations are the Tangzu Wan'er

over ear headsets for fps games is stupid

[unique wind]

iems with foam tips are OP for gaming

[haughty girder]

I like em but some hate it.

people consider it a metallic HD600

[unique wind]

it just looks like it would sound boring at best

[haughty girder]

IMO it's not worth the price hike over the HD600

[molten lotus]

Most of the issues I had were with acoustunes

[unique wind]

do you know which ones? i’ve never looked at acoustunes

[haughty girder]

I only know acoustune for being ugly asf

[unique wind]

i wanna stick my nose in the product page

[molten lotus]

All of them
I tried them at a shop in Singapore

I tried probably 6 different pairs

[unique wind]

all of the random acoustune iems i can find measurements for look dogshit so that’s not surprising

[molten lotus]

Good to know

[tepid torrent]

Some people consider it to be inferior to a HD600, it just better slam in the bass, but it can sound pretty metallic in the treble, and Focal's customer service and QC arent good

If you do go for them I would be careful

And always see if you can try them first

Though I dont think any stores carry elex, its drop exclusive

[unique wind]

straight up not worth buying

[molten lotus]

love it or hate it sort of thing

demo it if you can

[lean grove]

Yeah. My unreliable source says the Arya organic is just a normal Arya stealth with wood

Which I low-key kinda want

[unique wind]

they have no business being that pretty

i think frequency response will be similar but they wont be identical because they seem to be using different internals

hopefully it doesn’t take ages for people to measure them

[lean grove]

Well frequency response being similar is kinda given for hifiman

[molten lotus]

Is the arya any good

[unique wind]

buy me one and i’ll let you know

[molten lotus]

1299 hell naw

[unique wind]

it’s basically an ananda/xs but not built like crap

and with more linear bass extension

[haughty girder]

idk mate edition xs is sm better than ananda

other than comfort, idk why hifiman still uses that mf

[molten lotus]

the problem with cans like that is you look like an absolute twit wearing them lol

[lean grove]

The way you solve that is by letting people know how much they cost

"yeah I paid two months rent on these"

[molten lotus]

hahah

i have a pair of fostex th900's, and a pair of emu-teaks, and i use the teak's 99% of the time

the fostex's sit in a drawer

are they better than the emu's...yeah. Noticeably? not enough for me to risk breaking them in some way.

[lean grove]

Similar driver. Similar sound.

[molten lotus]

yep

i had a pair of beyerdynamic t5p's, wasnt a fan.

returned them

neutral sounds tinny to me so ive always been more of a basshead

[lean grove]

I haven't liked any of the high end beyers I've tried. 1990, was passable but the t1 and omiron less so.

[molten lotus]

yeah, one of my mates has the sennheiser 980's or whatever they are, and i was like "this is nice, but not thousand dollar nice, id rather get a closed or semi closed basshead can, or speakers since my entire house can hear on open cans like those.

@lean grove do you have chese

[lean grove]

I've got shredded Mexican

[molten lotus]

how much

[lean grove]

Probably about 200 grams.

[molten lotus]

can you eat it all at once

[lean grove]

I probably could

I'm full of noodles tho

[molten lotus]

that's nuts

[unique wind]

are they organic nano noodles?

[lean grove]

They're Korean cold noodles

[molten lotus]

Who wears these out

[lean grove]

I do

[haughty girder]

teaks are hella underrated tbh

[molten lotus]

they really are.

insane deal really.

thousand dollar sound for half the price.

i use an element II for my amp/dac

i have a schiit stack, it also just sits in a drawer. I was unimpressed.

[mild quail]

Fun

[molten lotus]

back of an avr?

[hollow robin]

all the ports

[lean grove]

90% of which are useless

[placid harness]

I do like mine but sadly they seem to have Quality issues over the entire range of headphones according to Igor.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/beyerdynamic-dt-700-pro-x-im-langzeit-test-wie-man-seinen-ruf-mit-billigen-komponenten-unnoetig-runiert/

And I hope they get that fixed. It happened to my 880 Pro after like 2 years of use which I thought was still okay but apparently isn't.

[quaint torrent]

Honestly my favourite headphones I ever had are the dt 770 pro

[serene surge]

Can multipoint Bluetooth function playback audios from two separate devices simultaneously? Is there any earbuds that can do that? So far I only know some headsets can playback audios from two devices simultaneously because the two devices are connected to the headphone through different protocols, one Bluetooth and one 2.4ghz rf.

[dry stratus]

burn it

"fun headphones like amiron home"

"high end headphones (T1, T90)"

burn it all

[hushed drum]

MacAddress video timing was perfect with when i asked for earbuds lol

But they didnt say whether there are any other better ones 💀

[dry stratus]

feel like those new beats they reviewed aren't actually better, but idk
would have to wait for someone that knows what they're talking about to review/measure them and compare to the airpods pro 2 on "how overkill is the bass?"

[tepid torrent]

What headphones have you had

LMAO

Holy shit

[dry stratus]

DT770 is just a cheaper HD820 according to its FR

dips around the same regions

[tepid torrent]

Either they have VERY weird tastes, or they have never listened to a good headphone

[dry stratus]

is it a review from 2015 or smth?

could maybe say it is fine if he only used closed back and back when many of the current options weren't a thing

closed back used to basically have nothing, either crappy consumer stuff or m50x/dt770

[tepid torrent]

It still basically has nothing

Theres what like four viable options?

[dry stratus]

more than 0

[tepid torrent]

k371, k361, maxwell, Austr

And the austr is 900 dollars

[dry stratus]

K361 and k371 helps a lot for the lower end options

cal was basically the only option ig

otherwise it was koss on ears with no isolation or open backs with no isolation

and an IEM market that had yet to release 99.99% of the budget options

[steel escarp]

damn she wearing the meze 99

[dry stratus]

the days where all I saw recommended was like KSC75, KPH30i, porta pro, cal, DT880, HD6x0

[dry stratus]

there are rich high schoolers in anime using HD800

[steel escarp]

really?

[dry stratus]

saw one once

[steel escarp]

this isn't an anime tho

[tepid torrent]

Bad headphones lol

[steel escarp]

455707

yeah

xD

[dry stratus]

it is drawn, so ofc
just wanted to mention

[steel escarp]

the sound stage was pretty good on the 99 but the tonality was awful

[tepid torrent]

Basically nice looking beats headphones

[steel escarp]

nah beats sound better

[dry stratus]

I want to try 99 + darkvoice + denafrips ares

muddy dark headphones + muddy dark tube amp + warm dac

wonder how it would sound

[dry stratus]

or like:

[steel escarp]

that looks like akg

[dry stratus]

yes

akg k701

[tepid torrent]

Another mid headphone

[dry stratus]

technically not an anime:

[tepid torrent]

Another mid headphone

[molten lotus]

i remember seeing porta pros in a manga

[tepid torrent]

Thats less suprising, given how common portapros are

[mild quail]

Yup

[quaint torrent]

I have the k361 and I prefer my dt770 pro over them

Also out of the iems I’ve tried the cca cra are my favourite aswell

[dry stratus]

DT770 still worse tho

even when you prefer them (which isn't bad, just use what you enjoy in the end... better off never joining audiophile communities for your wallet)

[unique wind]

i can see why someone would prefer them for sure

[quaint torrent]

I use them because I enjoy them I love that they are bassy and v shaped

[haughty girder]

my issue with dt770 isn't the amount of bass

it's the hole in the bass

[lean grove]

That's just a placebo

[unique wind]

that’s what i dislike about it also

ignoring the hole at 200hz the bass and mids are actually good

[lean grove]

The mids being good is also a placebo

[unique wind]

😹

[quaint torrent]

For me the next iem I want to buy is either the dunu Titan s or a4000 I can’t decide which to buy

[unique wind]

if you want that style of tuning then grab the tangzu wan’er

[quaint torrent]

Listening to them in a a/b test I can barely hear a difference

[unique wind]

smoother frequency response than both of those and it’s $17

[dry stratus]

like 9db over target around 8k 🤔

[quaint torrent]

I don’t care about target and I’m more caring about build quality

[dry stratus]

no point in good build quality if you can't use it and will be sitting in a closet all day

[quaint torrent]

What do you mean?

Oh

I mean I’d use it

[unique wind]

why would you not care about how they sound

[quaint torrent]

That’s the point in good build quality

[unique wind]

you wear iems to hear things not to feel how quality they are

[quaint torrent]

I care a bit that’s why I’m picking between these two

[dry stratus]

good build quality only matters if you use it

EQ could help obvs, but if its too bright to listen to so you take it out and just put it to the side, what's the point

[unique wind]

in my experience $150 iems are no more well built than $20 ones

[quaint torrent]

I’m rough with stuff that’s why I want to switch stuff because I’m tired of my cca cra breaking

[unique wind]

what part is breaking with your cca

[dry stratus]

they just keep throwing it down a cliff maybe, idk

[quaint torrent]

The iem itself

[unique wind]

i don’t know how you could break them aside from crushing them or static discharging

[buoyant vale]

they have that classic KZ build quality

[unique wind]

which no iem is safe from regardless of build quality

[quaint torrent]

I tend to sleep with them on

Also I got 2 dogs so that dosnt help either

[dry stratus]

don't feed your dogs your IEMs?

[unique wind]

all the more reason to use cheaper iems

[quaint torrent]

They tend to jump up and yank them out of my ear

[unique wind]

they’re better tuned than the two you picked anyway

[dry stratus]

wouldn't yanking them out, no matter what the IEM's material is
at some point just destroy the connector

[quaint torrent]

Idk

[unique wind]

i’m surprised i haven’t broken the connections on my fiio utws5

[dry stratus]

also, why not just not put the cables on the floor

[unique wind]

i have to rip the 3.5mm adapters off with real force

and i’ve done it like 100 times

it’s only a matter of time i reckon

[quaint torrent]

I also like the look of the dunu Titan s

[dry stratus]

A4000 is still just ABS plastic anyway, lol

[quaint torrent]

What plastic is the cca cra made out of?

[unique wind]

if you think metal will hold up better the moondrop aria is metal

it’ll probably be uncomfortable to sleep with though

[haughty girder]

Moondrop Lan is also metal

[haughty girder]

probably polycarbonate

[molten lotus]

Honestly the most comfortable in ears I’ve ever used to sleep are the airpods pros

Hands down, it’s not even close

[unique wind]

i think it's fairly popular to use those for sleeping with the noise cancelling

ive never worn them before myself

[quaint torrent]

I use them now for sleeping

I use the dekoni eartips with them

[molten lotus]

Yea I wear them on the ship with noise playing to block out the popping and creaking

Over the last 8 years nothing comes close in terms of comfort laying down

[quaint torrent]

I use the AirPods Pro 2 but they don’t have as good of noise cancelling as the wh-1000xm5

[molten lotus]

That’s what the noise is for

[dry stratus]

I wouldn't be able to sleep with sound on earphones/headphones

not like I feel like doing it even if I could, because I end up upside down in bed a lot when I wake up

[molten lotus]

It’s just dark noise

[dry stratus]

you do not want to be near me when I sleep

[molten lotus]

Whelp if you move that much when you sleep, probably wouldn’t be allowed to sail anyway

[dry stratus]

terrible sleep quality but ehh

[dry stratus]

you don't wake up with your head at the other side and the pillow thrown across the room?

[molten lotus]

No

[hushed drum]

Is the call quality with bluetooth mic bad on airpods pro 2 like the gen 3?

[unique wind]

yes, bluetooth mic quality is always bad

when you use bluetooth for both input and output it runs out of bandwidth and sounds like butt

[molten lotus]

You’ll get better mic quality out of a $5 gas station headphone

Assuming it has a mic on the cable

[hushed drum]

👍

[hushed drum]

I found that out

Just asked to make sur

[shut warren]

Hey all. I'm talking to some low-voltage people about filling out a house we're building, and we're looking at how to drive some speakers in various rooms. They default to Sonos amps everywhere, and that does seem sufficient, but that's $700 per. It feels like there's gotta be a cheaper way to do this

[dry stratus]

I would say that is guaranteed

its sonos

[shut warren]

I'd love to hear about something that would drive speakers that I could cast to

[dry stratus]

a brand that really does ask like 2-3x for the aesthetic

no idea about other options, I can just guarantee that there is gonna be cheaper

[shut warren]

Is there a receiver/amp brand that you've liked?

[dry stratus]

I don't use speakers

[shut warren]

Headphones?

[dry stratus]

headphone user yes

much different power requirements and doesn't use receivers

other than HE6, susvara, etc that actually are used on speaker amps

not something I own tho...
its either 6000$ headphone or a very rare headphone

[lean grove]

Pretty tricky. I doubt you're gonna find much help here. You want to find some pro AV forums or servers. Most people here just know a bit about consumer tech if you're lucky.

[shut warren]

Fair. Thanks

[dry stratus]

pro AV forums can have a different meaning

[lean grove]

It means audio video

What do you think it means ? 🤨

[dry stratus]

not "what do you think it means" just "what else it can mean if you take it out of context"

[unique wind]

i’m only familiar with audio video

[molten lotus]

wait

this isn't a manga

[steel escarp]

455707

it is not manga

no

[molten lotus]

lmao

incredible

her dad is an audiophile

[steel escarp]

people asking for headphone recommendations in the comment section

[molten lotus]

lmfao

[steel escarp]

wait @molten lotus how did you find out its not a manga

[molten lotus]

reverse search

[steel escarp]

[unique wind]

macbook speakers > 1266

[hollow lantern]

What is the best headset I can get for 150 or under does not need a microphone I just want something that does not have static 24/7

[lean grove]

Hd560s and a dongle

[sleek lily]

Corsair void pros

Jk

Ignore me

[unique wind]

[weak rapids]

What you need to buy a dongle for

[molten lotus]

Actually I would recommend a zen dac and salnotes zero and a usb mic of your choice I use a fifine because cheap

[tame vault]

Motherboard audio is bad and most phones don't have headphone jacks

[molten lotus]

Dude the salnotes zero are amazing for $20

[unique wind]

they’re ight

[tame vault]

With how varied the IEM market is, you can probably get better at the 150USD pricepoint. I personally don't have much experience with IEMs though since I only have one pair and I much prefer on-ears and over-ears, so I don't really have any good recommendations.

[molten lotus]

what an input

[unique wind]

there aren’t that many iems around $150 worth buying that i know of, it’s mostly $15-70 and $450+

[tame vault]

I see, so that pricepoint is largely diminishing returns for IEMs?

[unique wind]

if you’re getting a budget iem with a single driver inside they’re all basically the same thing and it isn’t worth paying a premium for nearly identical tuning with slight build differences

there are a gazillion $15-25 iems with various tunings

[tame vault]

That reminds me of one thing I do know with IEMs, it's best to avoid KZ, they have poor crossovers that lead to their IEMs all having a very similar sound, even if there is a difference in the number of drivers.

[hollow lantern]

What is a pretty good mic then for discord use

[unique wind]

fifine 669 and 683 are pretty good

[tame vault]

If it's just for Discord, a cheap lavaliere mic will be sufficient

If you've got one lying around somewhere, Sony Singstar microphones are pretty good for some strange reason. (The wired ones, I have no idea how the wireless ones sound)

[lean grove]

Minimum hissing

[molten lotus]

Meh there is a HUGE difference between wan'er and the zero

[molten lotus]

The wan'er are quite a bit bossier than the zero. The zero have better detail but on bass head tracks the wan'er sound fuller and deeper

[unique wind]

did you use the same eartips and volume match them

[molten lotus]

Yes

But I do have strange ear canals and the wan'er like to sit deeper but the zeros fit better.

The zero do have much much more detail

[unique wind]

sitting deeper could explain the bass difference

[molten lotus]

It's why I mentioned it.

[unique wind]

zero having more detail is probably from them having more 8khz+

zero sound a little weird to me and i can never seem to isolate it with eq

might be that

[molten lotus]

I do end up grabbing the zero more often. But the wan'er have the mic on a cable so those are now my work meeting earbuds.

[unique wind]

i wish graphs weren’t so compressed after 10khz, response differences up there can make huge soundstage and perceived detail differences

[molten lotus]

All any one really cares about is bass mids and the vocal range

[unique wind]

i don’t look forward to losing hearing with age

[molten lotus]

I am 40 and I still have sensitivity to highs.

[unique wind]

how high up can you hear before it starts to roll off

i’m trying to find a reputable research paper on this

all that pulls up are garbage ad filled articles with varying results

this better not be accurate

[molten lotus]

I was able to hear up to 19khz recently. But that was on Astros haven't tried with a good pair yet.

But I can hear the ultrasonic clicks from those pest repellent machines and from ultrasound machines.

Well I was 38 when I did the test.

What if that's what's causing the increase in autism? Getting ultra sounded as a fetus and your brain just goes "nahuh I ain't interested in the outside world"

[unique wind]

[lean grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510681715484786710/1089591276594282607/Daddy-day-care-wtf.gif

[thorny tulip]

my audio suddenly started crackling. My current setup is Computer -> generic usb-b cable -> CXN v2 -> monoprice RCA's -> WA2. It's 100% the USB, when i play using the streamer (ie not via usb) no crackling. and it only happens sometimes. THis wasn't a problem before but suddenly is, idk what changed? What can i do?

would the audioquest usb cable help? it appprently has good measurements w.r.t shielding according to a dude in SBAF.

[onyx iron]

Need some advice here. My friend is getting a new mic soon, and he is letting me decide which one he should get. His ideal price range is less than 200 bucks. He would prefer a condenser mic. He only plans on using it for streaming/content creation. He is in an untreated space, but since he does not plan to do voice over work, Im pretty sure we can just add some filters to mitigate that. At the moment, Im thinking about the lct 240 pro, but I came here to ask for any other opinions.

[molten lotus]

behringer c1

he shouldn't waste his money

[haughty moon]

7zh zero ... as in 7hz salnote zero that is about 30 $ cad ?
between that and the truthear hola which one would you go for ?
i have the chu and it feels like they are missing something

[unique wind]

what do you feel they are missing

[haughty moon]

imo it's a bit veiled
instrument separation is not the best
lack details

frequency target is nice tho ... so something sounding like that more or less but with more details and better instrument separation I guess

[unique wind]

the frequency response determines separation and details with iems so you may need to try something differently tuned

or try different eartips

[haughty moon]

I don't really like the silicon ones that came with them ... changed them for foam tips ...

maybe with some more premium silicone tip

anything you could recommend ?

[unique wind]

my favorite tips were the smallest size of dekoni foam eartips but they can be uncomfortable after a while

you could try playing with oratory1990’s eq settings to see if you like them

[haughty moon]

I'll keep that in mind thanx

anyway ... back to my original question, which one would you suggest between the zero and the hola ?

[unique wind]

salnotes zero and chu are going to be pretty similar

[haughty moon]

ok

[unique wind]

i had to clarify you meant the salnotes and not the truthear zero

truthear zero is a bit different

[unique wind]

this could be a good option to try if youre looking for something different

[haughty moon]

truthear zero is the one tuned with crinacle ... a bit more expensive

[unique wind]

it is a little more expensive yeah but i dont want you to get stuck buying a bunch of $20 iems that all sound the same

[haughty moon]

yeah indeed

[unique wind]

crystal light with caffeine wild strawberry

[haughty moon]

sounds like a drink ... lol

[unique wind]

yes sir it is

[haughty moon]

sounds good to me

[unique wind]

it is pretty good

[haughty moon]

the important par is caffeine

[unique wind]

absolutely

[sharp rapids]

sony linkbuds s similar to the air pod pros 2, in sound quality? im deciding which one to get

[dry stratus]

I hate how all those kinda drinks and foods are going for things like "90% fewer calories!!"

me: "90% harder to not die!!!"

[lean grove]

Very relatable

[unique wind]

there you go conpin

[dry stratus]

1 glass of olive oil: like 2000 calories

small piece of the right maybe

[topaz cypress]

I am missing context. Why are we showing the Demon Core?

[unique wind]

just use the speakers built into your monitor for a week and then go back to your headphones

itll be bliss

[cobalt mountain]

this is why we don't let video guys hang a PA

they dropped a line array

[molten lotus]

headphones

[haughty girder]

American moment

I don't see bags of rice saying fewer calories!!!

[elder onyx]

@upper marten get galaxy buds 2, way better than raycons and they are available at around the same price (depending on where you get them from)

[exotic yacht]

so they remove build a pc cause it goes off topic and now this happens

[haughty girder]

???

it's always been like this

[upper marten]

Ok thx

[haughty girder]

this.

[primal fulcrum]

Except everything (bass)

Ok, rude. He is like, right there^ maaan

[west crypt]

fifine k688 or the Tonor TD510

[haughty girder]

t669

seiren mini

[west crypt]

i want something that sounds podcasty/ compressed

[lean grove]

then use a compressor

[west crypt]

wouldn’t a dynamic mic be better?

was thinking of getting the presonus revelator dynamic, but i came across some videos about the k688, am8 and the TD510

[thorny tulip]

so, i've been looking into USB cables and how they affect sound, reading thru forum posts etc. obviously it's a hotly contested topic...and here's what i've settled on, what do y'all think. (note, i'm not an engineer, and my knowledge of sound and E&M physics isn't great either): in an ideal situation cable wouldn't make a difference, but i think most people have less than ideal setups, desks full of all kinds of EM noise, "noisy" computers, listening to music whilst doing other stuff of course. And most people just use whatever USB cable they have lying around, that isn't well shielded etc. My theory is that, there are some people whose situation in terms of noise and so on is bad enough to lightly affect music (in a way that isn't obvious but you can tell something is wrong, can't really pinpoint to it most of the time cuz it's subtle) and what upgraded cables give them is just cleaning up the signal and the removal of timing issues, crackles and pops etc make the sound so much better than it sounds like all kinds of things "bass is tighter" or "improved soundstage" whereas what really happened is the picture just got cleaned up a bit. It's like going from a bad HDMI cable to a well specced one and describing the difference by saying how it improved picture definition and more pop to the color.

[lean grove]

You can put a compressor on a dynamic mic.

It's software

and, really, a dynamic mic and a condenser mic arent gonna make a whole lot of a difference

[lean grove]

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/do-usb-audio-cables-make-a-difference.1887/

you can see that they can really affect jitter if they're long and cheap

[thorny tulip]

yea i read thru that thread actually. but i know a lot of ppl are still non believers, bad cables are def. bad however, and there's SO MANY bad cables.
Note: AmazonBasic USB-B is pretty bad at least at 1.8m

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

doesnt really matter

most people i dont think are getting terrible cables

the ones that come with dacs should usually be up to spec, unless we see some measurements

[thorny tulip]

ooh interesting. Also good dacs can clean up bad signals? didn't know that

[lean grove]

i think that might be the buffer's doing

or maybe just having a decent usb controller or w/e

i dont really know what would make one dac better over another

but usually when asr does dac measurements they show jitter

🤔

[thorny tulip]

i think the subjective stuff ppl are seeing is just the cleaned up signal which SEEMS like all those subjective things

[lean grove]

nah. id bet that 90% of the subjective stuff people notice about a better usb cable is probably just in their head.

[thorny tulip]

i just swapped out USB cables from yesterday and i really want to say it tightened bass and clean up the cut-off at the high end (obvs it didn't, the bad cable was just doing all that)

[halcyon mauve]

How are the epos h6 pro closed?

[lean grove]

you know if anything i'd think a bit of jitter would make people think there was more soundstage

http://www.sereneaudio.com/blog/what-does-jitter-sound-like

[spiral sable]

Does anyone have any knowledge about whether the Sony XM5s are worth the extra money compared to the XM4s?

[west crypt]

is steel series sonar any good?

[hollow lantern]

https://www.turtlebeach.com/products/black-stealth-gen-2-600-xbox-max Are these good

and 2nd question https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sennheiser-hd-560s-wired-open-aire-over-the-ear-audiophile-headphones-black/6433188.p?intl=nosplash&skuId=6433188 are these better

[lean grove]

Go for the Sennheisers

[molten lotus]

I think usb c will reduce even that.

I have had much better jitter and sound floor with a usb c to b.

[molten lotus]

560s hands down better.

https://headphones.com/products/sennheiser-hd-600-headphones-open-box?_pos=11&_sid=832b80093&_ss=r
If you can swing it.

[next scroll]

would the sony xm5s be good headphones for using on games?

or should i stick to my razer nari

or switch over to my brothers steel series arctis 7P+

or should i just get different headphones

[nova wagon]

there might be noticable latency if you want to use the xm5 for gaming

@next scroll frankly, i would say focus on the game first

[next scroll]

good headphones are important when im mostly playing val at high elo

so im not sure which headphones to use

[lean grove]

Sennheiser hd560s

[molten lotus]

Theoretically sennheiser hd800s

Realistically probably ksc75's and a good dac.

[thorny tulip]

oh interesting, i just assumed jitter would sound like weird timing issues (like notes wouldn't decay as well, you'd have tightness become loose etc)

[lean grove]

It is.

Just very tiny ones

[thorny tulip]

i have no idea what was causing the wierdness in the highs though, it was almost like a really bad roll off in the high notes

[next scroll]

no clue what those mean

[molten lotus]

I made a decision. I think detail is 100% my end game so thank you fucks for giving me advice and taking me on this journey but I am aiming for the following:

https://headphones.com/products/sennheiser-hd-800s-open-box?_pos=4&_sid=832b80093&_ss=r

And
https://headphones.com/products/ifi-audio-zen-dac-signature-v2?_pos=2&_sid=b44d73bd3&_ss=r

https://headphones.com/products/smsl-sh-9-thx-aaa-desktop-headphone-amplifier?_pos=1&_psq=thx&_ss=e&_v=1.0

The headphones are pretty set. The dac is pretty set The amp is negotiable (dac too)

[lean grove]

Inno is famous for being incomprehensible and talking in riddles

[next scroll]

i have no clue about anything about audio and stuff

[molten lotus]

Ksc75 is the broke bitch sound stage king. And look in to a zen dac.

[lean grove]

Just get the hd560s. They're wired, but they're gonna be the best headphones for gaming that's realistically affordable.

Rip

[next scroll]

waht jus happened

i just got a warning for caps???

[lean grove]

Yeah the bot is pretty annoying

[molten lotus]

It happens you get used to it.

[next scroll]

money isnt the problem, its part of a make-a-wish that im getting

[lean grove]

💀

Uhhh. Hd800 then.

But 560s is gonna be easier to work with

[molten lotus]

Well shit then see my above post. 2k in audio gear.

[next scroll]

ok thats too much

money isnt the problem but it also is

cant go over roughly 10,000 CAD

and i have a pc planned for like 7-8k rn

[lean grove]

Just get the 560s.

That or the audeze Maxwell if it's in stock

It's got more bells and whistles and is more gamery.

[molten lotus]

https://headphones.com/products/ifi-audio-zen-dac-open-box?_pos=9&_sid=8c49ac87c&_ss=r

And that to plug the headphones into

Just say no to mobile audio

Mobo not mobile.

[next scroll]

i have no clue what any of that does

i just need good heaphones 😭

[molten lotus]

Ok. So your motherboard audio is notoriously noisy and poorly processed.

Getting an external dac avoids this issue

Zen is a goto recommendation for this type of product

And on top of that 7-8k for a pc is overkill

Unless you are including a $2000 monitor

[next scroll]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ksJrTn

[molten lotus]

No

[next scroll]

def not the final thing, but a rough idea

[molten lotus]

No just no

Gimme a sec

7000 amd cpus currently ha e a detonation issue

That is as yet unsolved.

[next scroll]

should i go for the intel i9 13th gen?

[haughty moon]

unless you need that kind of compute power ... I would say no

13700k would do good for less money

[next scroll]

^^

[molten lotus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pV2yJM

Ray tracing is the only lack but you said competitive val sooooo

[next scroll]

well val isnt the only game i play, but it is the main one

[molten lotus]

Best bang for the buck and 5k cheaper

It'll do everything and also has the world's best monitor

[next scroll]

wouldnt the g8 be better

though a little smaller

[molten lotus]

Monitor?

[next scroll]

yeah

[molten lotus]

Fuck no that's a quantum dot oled

[next scroll]

again no clue what that means