audio-tech

[median yarrow]

Just for looks?

[haughty girder]

Yeti specifically has multiple capsules

[median yarrow]

o

Any reason for it?

[haughty girder]

for the different pickup patterns

which most people will never uuse

[median yarrow]

Ah

[molten lotus]

Are the drop ksc75 an improvement?

There are phenomenal 2mm capsules. You pay for them but they exist.

[median yarrow]

Yea but in my usecase not going for size as a major factor

[molten lotus]

Just saying. They exist. Size isn't an issue. But those are mainly for speaking. The volume and sound pressure of singing might harm them I dunno.

[median yarrow]

What about Samson - Q2U?

[haughty girder]

I don't like how it sounds compared to the ATR2100x, especially at the same price where the ATR is built better and uses type C instead of micro B

but some people seem to really like it

[median yarrow]

Tbf i dont really give a frick bout usb c/b , just want to know what would you recommend in terms of just the usecase

[haughty girder]

IMO ATR2100x is a direct upgrade to the Q2u

[median yarrow]

Not sure which one i'll go for but, any specific recommendation for boom arm/pop filter?

[haughty girder]

eh, just get the cheapest one you can get that comes with any ol' pop filter ie. innogear off amazon

[tepid torrent]

They are the exact same

Different paint and cables

drop version has a mic and worse cable

[celest elbow]

Hey does anyone know if u can connect tv speakers with a connector like this to a pc?

[molten lotus]

if it's simply +/- channels of the two speakers then yeah

if it's some weird digital data thing then probably still can but you will need an adapter

I don't recognize the connector so it could be either though unlikely to be digital

[real wasp]

i noticed i dont have any noise on main out with the ketchup mayo colored cables but in the front aux port

[urban fossil]

hello, does anyone know if this sound interface can handle HD 650s? https://www.roland.com/uk/products/super_ua/specifications/

for phones maximum output power it says

200 mW + 200 mW (L + R, 40 ohms)
65 mW + 65 mW (L + R, 300 ohms)

but then for output impedance it says

LINE OUT A jack: 600 ohms (balanced)
LINE OUT B jack: 600 ohms (balanced)
PHONES jack: 30 ohms

(I only have it cause i got it super cheap second hand and i wanted something that could output my desktop audio AND something (like a phone or switch) that i plug into it so i can get both sets of audio at the same time, I'm currently potentially looking to upgrade from my HD598s to a pair of HD 650s)

[haughty girder]

30 ohms is kinda bad...

since HD650 are 300 ohms though, yes it should be fine

just I wouldn't use any planars on it

or any low impedance headphones

[dry stratus]

Sus on it

[haughty girder]

this will likely work fine

[chrome island]

I take offense in making stupid statements, not that I don't agree that KZ makes a lot of bad products, you just shouldn't write off the good ones by default and it's true for other brands as well

Oh lol, so what do you pray to?

Sharur is kinda more of a meme than somebody to take at face value

[steel escarp]

Yes

But he does say stuff sometimes that is true

[chrome island]

Ehhh, most of what you think you hear is tuning or not real, HD650's aren't that good, it more of a they are different

[placid geyser]

[lean grove]

He might be the second worst person.

In audio.

[chrome island]

So who do you say is worse?

[lean grove]

Someone who's gonna have one of his goons screenshot my answer and cause trouble for me later.

Sharurs goons are like. Small children who can't afford good headphones.

[molten lotus]

I swear he either has something very wrong with his ears and needs to see an ENT, or is just being a contrarian for the sake of being different

[unique wind]

most of what he says is true

but if a headphone or iem doesn’t have harman bass he immediately calls it shit

[molten lotus]

Takes hyperbole and rage bait too far

[unique wind]

his takes on dacs, amps, compression, and polarity are 100% true but yeah he does rage bait pretty hard

if you don’t prefer elevated bass he calls you an untrained woman over 50 years old

[steel escarp]

I was gonna ask this

But bot doesn't allow me to

[steel escarp]

.

[unique wind]

that’s a weird thing to censor

[steel escarp]

Yeah, I don't get it

Wait I just broke rule 14 by sending the screenshot

💀 bye guys, nice to have known yall

[unique wind]

yeah scram

[steel escarp]

I should remove the screenshot

[karmic abyss]

hi looking for headphones. was recommended the pc38x for 160e
Is this better than other alternatives? such as hd560 + dedicated mic for 170e?
Its for gaming only

[unique wind]

hd560s and an external mic will be better but the sennheiser pc38x is excellent as well

[karmic abyss]

I am sorry I meant 569

[lean grove]

Skip 569

[karmic abyss]

which is 40e less, is it still better?

oh okay

[unique wind]

hd569 is crap

[karmic abyss]

oh sad

[chrome island]

That's probably true😁

[haughty girder]

Sharur had how many alts?

it was actually kinda funny

[chrome island]

I don't want to know

It's already too "much" to see what he posts

[urban fossil]

shortly after asking this i asked someone who knows about audio at my universities kit loan thingy... place... (i think they were a third year in audio engineering) and they said for the most part the only issue with impedance mismatch is that it might be very quiet (and given that I have over half the audio level spare with my 598s it apparently should be OK)

does this sound somewhat accurate?

[haughty girder]

no?

Wait lemme restate that

Yesnt.

[lean grove]

Kinda

[haughty girder]

since that's output impedance there's something called damping factor

[lean grove]

Actually. I think it's technically right

[chrome island]

impedance mismatch can create channel disbalance

[urban fossil]

ok yesnt is very much the feeling i got after the conversation

[chrome island]

oh wait nvm, different topic

need to get into reading what's going on

[haughty girder]

the simplest explanation of that, damping factor is basically the control an amp has over the driver. Best case the source impedance to driver impedance should be a ratio of at least 1:8.

[molten lotus]

I am about to bash my head into a wall with this car audio

[urban fossil]

i'm not an audio person the 598s i got because people said they were really good for the price about 10 years ago and the super UA i got because it did a thing i wanted (computer + other audio input -> headphones at the same time) and was cheap second hand at CEX/webuy

[haughty girder]

any lower and it can have issues with volume yes, but also Headphone impedance is not necessarily flat

so the volume change can vary across the frequency response which means it changes the tuning

[molten lotus]

too many

[haughty girder]

if your impedance curve is flat then yes, it would just be quieter, decay may be slower but not necessarily

[urban fossil]

ok so there is the potential for the sound to get messed up, is this the sort of thing headphone amps are for or am i misunderstanding?

[haughty girder]

Not quite

it just happens that most solid state amps (opposite of tube amps) tend to have lower output impedances

[lone dust]

Hi guys, does anyone of you know what that recording device is called to record sound from microphone if you're in the audience. Say you're at a public meeting which you'd like to record for example. What kind of recorder do you need to pick up those electrical waves? Same technique hearing aids sometimes use.

[bitter hollow]

uh
are they letting you access the audio system?

I'm pretty sure most public events don't let you touch that shit

[median yarrow]

Oh, also would love your opinion on this: https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Vocal-Dynamic-Microphone-Q9U/dp/B0848D6TBR?th=1

As a price in my region, Samson Q9u is $100, Atr2100x $79, Blue Yeti $101

[lone dust]

yeah, I ment to record from a distance without distorion from the other audience

not connected to the any system

[haughty girder]

great mic

[median yarrow]

So Blue Yeti for $101, Samson S9U $100, Atr2100x $79?

[haughty girder]

Q9u and atr2100x tied, q9u is easier to use. Yeti just avoid

Q9u NEEDS the presence boost switch on tho

[median yarrow]

wdym?

[haughty girder]

there's switches in the back of the q9u

[median yarrow]

o

[median yarrow]

Would I also need shockmount and Pop filter?

[haughty girder]

pop filter maybe, shock mount probably not

[molten lotus]

Is cambridge audio audiophile fluff or do they make decent gear?

[unique wind]

if you're just looking at numbers their stuff is overpriced compared to class D options from smaller companies

[molten lotus]

Ok so I'd be better off with endgaming into an iFi stack

Zen

that is

[lean grove]

what if the numbers dont mean much and class D is sugma

[unique wind]

did klaus hack your discord account

[molten lotus]

I was looking at dacs and pictures of the internals of dacs and it seems that alot of these do the "audiophile component" fluff.

Like strings and strings of Caps in series

micro caps into their bigger brothers and

[lean grove]

yes its called power filtering

[molten lotus]

all kinds of bullshit

[lean grove]

and ripple

[molten lotus]

yeah I'm aware of what it is

[lean grove]

what are you looking at

[unique wind]

the majority of the audiophile community believes in snakeoil and psychoacoustics

there are very few reviewers who are purely objective

[molten lotus]

but from what I've read you can get that with minimal bullshit

if you look at >real< power filters

like ones that you hook millions of dollars of server gear up to

[lean grove]

inno which dac and amp are you looking at

[molten lotus]

I can't even remember

there were a few internal pics

[lean grove]

well psychoacoustics are definitely a thing and is important to the audio experience

[molten lotus]

The more I read the more I get the feeling that the >real< end game is actually just a decent set of "entry level" gear

maybe a tube amp

but that's just meh

[unique wind]

from a purely objective standpoint endgame is like $200

[molten lotus]

that's what I was getting at

I might end up with a Zen Dac stack

err zen stack

and then I'm trying to figure out which headset is my real end game

give me something to do for a couple years

heaphone not headset

i know I don't want an attached mic

Short list so far is HD800s/Arya

[topaz cypress]

One of the better books I've read in the audio space is:
The Complete Guide to High-End Audio
Fifth Edition
by Robert Harley

He did a very good job about explaining different kinds of components, what impacts they may have, what is BS, as well as giving a lexicon to help describe what you hear.

[molten lotus]

I'll probably get an HD600 on the way

[unique wind]

no such thing

you must develop an addiction to buying headphones

[molten lotus]

why do you think I plan on getting HD600's and Edition XS along the way?

I bought the Wan'er

good, great even

quite narrow and very very v shaped

[unique wind]

harman treble and a sizable bass boost

[molten lotus]

yeah

but the midrange isn't lost

I'm going to trade my friend for a week for his Salnotes Zero

he's gonna try the Wan'er

for a week as well

[unique wind]

i dont know if mine are defective but i really dont enjoy the salnotes

im curious to see how youll compare them to wan'er

[molten lotus]

what I heard of them they were upper mid forward

more so than the wan'er

the wan'er sound >really really< good with modern tracks like stuff from 21 pilots

but it feels like some of the upper mid gets lost a little

[unique wind]

i might get them to use as my go out in public/work iems

[molten lotus]

The Salnotes felt a little more resolving, better detail

[unique wind]

and then ill get a nicer set to replace my broken tangzu zetian wu i used at home

[molten lotus]

I know someone who has the 3 driver version of the Ultimate Ears

but those you can't really "try for a week"

since the shell is custom moulded

[unique wind]

https://custom.ultimateears.com/products/ue-reference-remastered

looks pretty cool

[molten lotus]

I also wonder how much difference it would make to order custom tips from etymotic

they have a fluff version with 21 drivers

I think maybe their 6 driver (3ba 2what ever and 1 DD) might be the best of the bunch

since that seems to be a common thing but if they have a 3 driver (1ba 2what ever and 1 dd) that might be the best

[lean grove]

Copium is strong tonight

[molten lotus]

unless the esat and ba can be tuned specifically for narrow band at high accuracy

what is the 3rd type of iem driver

I know balanced armature and dynamic dryver

driver

what's that third one?

[unique wind]

electrostat

planar

[lean grove]

Piezo

[molten lotus]

so the theiaudio monarch has two estat drivers?

do you need an energizer to run them?

who uses piezo? and isn't piezo in the ba?

like doesn't a ba use piezoelectric motion to move the armature?

[lean grove]

Piezo is like. Ultra stupid.

And no. Ba is just a dynamic with extra steps

That's inside out

Piezo uses crystals and good vibes

[molten lotus]

I just decided that estat is out for me

I started reading up on what it takes to figure out which amp to get for an estat headset..... I'd have to get a 240v socket put in next to my desk to even hope to thing about running one

[lean grove]

Coward

[molten lotus]

bro

that's like bread with two bags

[lean grove]

Poor

[molten lotus]

I don't wanna have to have a preflight checklist before I start listening to music

[lean grove]

Yeah estats are for a certain type of person

Need a lot of care and there's so many bad options.

Hard to get a good deal or know what the memes are without knowing people.

[mighty pier]

thick boi

[dry stratus]

trash boi*

[mighty pier]

Me and my friends started wheezing when we saw this lmao

[molten lotus]

best gaming headphones for 100$?

could be without microphone

[dry stratus]

its not a gaming headphone without a mic
because gaming headsets are just crappy/mediocre headphones with a mic attached

[eternal narwhal]

Except the MMX300

But thats not 100$

[molten lotus]

so good headphones without mic

[narrow venture]

any pcie sound card user here? is the sound blaster audigy fx v2 a good choice for balance of cost and quality?

[blazing magnet]

Logitech G560 LIGHTSYNC Gaming Speakers with Game Driven RGB Lighting - Black

Are they any good or nah

[molten lotus]

k361

[molten lotus]

No

k631 is a keyboard

🤔

[blazing magnet]

Someone offering me them brand new for $100 Aud and they retail for $400 brand new here

[molten lotus]

I said k361

sory

[molten lotus]

the price doesn't matter if they sound bad does it

i have reddragon k631 and i just read it like that

my bad

better be

[halcyon basin]

what mic should i get

around 300-400 preferably xlr

[molten lotus]

for?

and what is your interface

[gentle gate]

anyone know any good in-ears

[molten lotus]

mest mk2

[craggy wolf]

best wireless earbuds with ANC
budget 200 australian

[halcyon basin]

audient id4 mkii

[molten lotus]

and what for do you want this mic

[halcyon basin]

some youtube recordings

maybe stream here and there

[molten lotus]

why do you want a 400$ mic for this 💀

[unique wind]

galaxy buds2 pro have the best sound quality, airpods pro 2 have the best noise cancelling

[craggy wolf]

currently have an android phone and both are out of budget sadly 😔

[unique wind]

dang, what do the galaxy buds2 pro cost for you?

[craggy wolf]

269

i could get it for 219 but high school student is pain

[unique wind]

holy shite

theyre like bang on 200aud converted in america

[craggy wolf]

😭

[weak rapids]

Ah yes, the great overseas shipping price that in all honesty shouldn’t affect such an item at all

[craggy wolf]

lowest i can find it 219

[real wasp]

thomann support says its cheap interfaces have noise and thats to be expected then said i could try out the universal audio volt 2...is it worth it?

[haughty girder]

do you need two inputs?

UA volt are pretty good, but if you want fancy and don't need two, get the volt 176

the compressor if awesome

[real wasp]

volt 176 (left) or volt 1 (right) because the volt 2 costs 170€, im looking for an interface which doesnt make noise in 24 ohm iems

[haughty girder]

Oh! you're looking for a clean output for headphones?

[real wasp]

yep indeed

[haughty girder]

Do you even need the interface part....

But anyways in that case motu m2 is your best bet

[real wasp]

i dont think i do so just a dac? im fine with the mic on my q802

[haughty girder]

oh wait you're using a q802... do you need direct monitoring?

Your best bet would actually be just get a dongle

cx31993

[real wasp]

no im fine using windows playback thing

[haughty girder]

then yea just use a dongle

search cx31993 and get one

Very clean dongles

[real wasp]

usb c in my pc and headphones on that and its done?

[haughty girder]

Yes

Or with an extension if the cable isn't long enough, and keep it away from power cables

[real wasp]

i shouldnt get thhis one off aliexpress or should i?

[haughty girder]

if you want you can

amazon and aliexpress are selling the same things

[trim wind]

How should I connect these to my AV? Should I use 2 separate wires to the center channel for each positive and negative

So 2 wires to positive, 2 to negative

1 for top and bottom

It is the aesprit 307

[haughty girder]

they're bridged it seems? if so then it's just 1

1 for red 1 for black

[bitter hollow]

Oh no
A gaming headset

[unique wind]

pc38x>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[bitter hollow]

wires cringe

[haughty moon]

got the pc37x and those are really nice

[tepid torrent]

Probably the best gaming headset out there lol

[molten lotus]

Audeze nuts

[tepid torrent]

see that joke doesnt work because its not pronounced "audeez"

Which sucks

[unique wind]

audeze deez nutz

[solid dirge]

Man the Moondrop Chu are scratching an itch I didn't know I had. Genuinely impressive

[quick hound]

ayooo

I got a question for the audiophiles here

so I need a good headset no mic needed

i have an external mic

I already found what i want

There's the Byerdynamic DT 900X

and there's the DT 700X

900X being openback

[uneven mist]

I want a 990 pro

[quick hound]

is that better than the 900X?

pretty sure that was the older version of these

[uneven mist]

beyerdynamic dt 990 pro been out for ages

[quick hound]

ye

im talking abt the new ones

the 900 x and 700x

thing is

the 900 is open back

700 isnt

[uneven mist]

ic

[quick hound]

the open back is obviously richer

as in a richer soundstage

but the openback would probably annoying for my family members

and then there's also the fact that I game

and want those low ends in game

that's where the 700x is better

but obviously the quality of the sound is worse

[dry stratus]

Quite a few headphones aren’t really noticeable for others around you

Unless they sit directly next to you

Or a bit further away with 0 noise otherwise

[quick hound]

well i sit alone in my room

but then there's the bass problem

[dry stratus]

it has little to no bass

Its like 1/5th the volume at best around you anyway..

[quick hound]

damn little to no means pretty much nothing for someone who's used to a little bass

[uneven mist]

depending on your audio interface and if it can handle the ohms

[quick hound]

idk abt that im not that much of an audiophile

[dry stratus]

900 does have less than “neutral”

[quick hound]

less than neutral is fine

atleast it has bass

i mean they have to keep the sound pretty rich

i dont want my low ends ruining my highs and mids

but i also want them to be present

[dry stratus]

All 700 measurements:

Sudden massive dip

[uneven mist]

my yamaha hs5's have very rich mids and highs but a bit of bass on higher volume which I don't have most of the time

[quick hound]

in conclusion

should i go with the 700x or 900x?

according to my preferences that is

i just need help picking that's all

[uneven mist]

i'd look at some graphs people made for it when testing so u can make best decision

[quick hound]

that's what im doing rn

[uneven mist]

closed back definitely better for bass

[quick hound]

id still like some of ur opinions tho

[quick hound]

ye

[uneven mist]

ye but I havent used em so I can't give a proper awnser haa

[quick hound]

i might just go for the 700X cuz of the bass i need in games

the immersion is important for me

[dry stratus]

More like If you want more bass, not better bass

Best bass is still on an open back imho

[quick hound]

pretty much unnoticeable for a basshead like me

i like openbacks just not when gaming

i would buy both if i had the money

but it's just one for now

[uneven mist]

already have 2 headphones

AT ATH-M50x's and Steelseries Artic 7's wireless

[quick hound]

ic

[uneven mist]

one for djing, one for general headset + mic

[quick hound]

ye

well anyway thanks for the help man

ima go off to play tennis now

gdbye

[uneven mist]

ayy ciao

[molten lotus]

not really

there is no relation to being closed back and bass

[calm nebula]

are sony xm5's worth it?

as a replacement for airpods pro

[dry stratus]

Xm5 is worse than xm4, and both are worse sound wise than something half the cost which still is a wireless anc, just better sound

[calm nebula]

what would you recommend then?

[dry stratus]

Unless wf1000xm5 was released this week or smth

[molten lotus]

not really stick to the pros

[exotic yacht]

anyone know if you can change the voice on the nekocakes?

[dry stratus]

You don’t like?

[exotic yacht]

no

[dry stratus]

Why not tho

Woopyman wants “uwu, I turned the volume down master” every time he presses volume down

[exotic yacht]

fake

[placid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-lightskin-agreement-gif-25487093

[unique wind]

you should get the akg k371 if you like bass but also want a clear midrange and treble

[hot veldt]

Does anyone have any good earbud recommandations for around €175 for going to the gym and everyday use

[maiden wave]

I paid more for my speakers than my gaming pc

[lean grove]

What speakers

[maiden wave]

I have CA-2014s on top and a Monster GLO for bass and low tones

totals to $155

I bought a cheap gaming laptop from my friend for 60 so thats how the speakers are more expensive

[vast fog]

can anyone help me my logitec x pro headset mic isnt working and i tried EVERYTHING

not wireless

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-role-travis-willingham-eyeroll-fjord-looking-at-the-camera-gif-13795712

[maiden wave]

it plays snowrunner and under

[molten lotus]

Wan'er

$20

[haughty girder]

tbh tho, not a big fan of the HS5

they look great yes but IMO they sound quite a bit worse than the 305P

[lean grove]

rich mids with a massive hole in the middle

[thorn shoal]

Why can’t we just get the 305ps with the look of the HS5

Also I wish more monitor subwoofers were front firing

[lean grove]

build your own monitors

[thorn shoal]

2 much work

[lean grove]

lazy

[thorn shoal]

I’ll just get this for my desk

Shouldn’t be too overkill right

[lean grove]

that'll be your desk

[thorn shoal]

Nvm this should be better

https://tenor.com/view/earthquake-meme-girl-earthquake-meme-ali-j-girl-makeup-earthquake-bizarremakeuptutorialearthquake-gif-23583134

[haughty girder]

actually that could work

if you're doing a ceiling mount

[stoic pecan]

Out of the following options which is better (and/or if there is any other you would recommend for around $100-$170 AUD), The HyperX Cloud Stinger Core Wireless DTS, HyperX Cloud II Wireless or SteelSeries Arctis 1. I currently have the HyperX Stinger Core 1.7 Wired, however one earcup has come off and the mic is very dogy in that it just wont work sometimes. I also would prefer a wireless one since the cable is annoying.

[haughty girder]

c2w

[visual valve]

Is anyone here into IEMs?

[dry stratus]

If they were into me maybe, but they just don’t fit so I stopped trying

[unique wind]

[dull trout]

sure does

[haughty girder]

IEMs are usually in me...

[visual valve]

I just left my tws and got into it so finding similar minded people

[hoary raven]

https://www.amazon.ca/Pyle-Pro-PHA40-4-Channel-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B003M8NVFS cop or drop for HD6XX?

i'd be pairing with a scarlett solo (yes i know)

[tepid torrent]

Why do you need a 4 channel one

[hoary raven]

Thought the price was right for a vacuum tube amp

I'll admit my knowledge on audio tech is limited but I wanna get it right

The name of the game is bang for buck

[tepid torrent]

Thats not a tube amp though

If you want bang for buck get a usbc apple dongle

Or save up for magni/modi stack

[hoary raven]

I need to use the DAC for my XLR mic so I just need an amp to get the most out of my headphones. Tho I was happy with my dongle for a good long time

[tepid torrent]

That amp will not get the most out of the 6xx

Concern yourself with if you can listen to it

Which is yes with a dongle

There is a very low chance that what you listed is better

[wide cobalt]

Can anyone recommend a pair of wireless headphones for under £100 with a carrying case and preferably ANC? Wanting to get a good pair for my bday to replace my AirPods. Need to be over-ear

[bitter hollow]

I hate how with tws buds one of them usually fails first
So I just have a bunch of half sets of perfectly good earbuds

[unique wind]

your airpods will probably be better than the headphones available for under 100

[molten lotus]

he didn't say airpod pros

[faint furnace]

Hello, is it ok if I ask for assistance in this channel regarding an audio issue or is there a channel more suited for queries and such

I've searched the tech support thread and I can't seem to find something relating to my problem

[wide cobalt]

They’re actually worse, they die at 50% battery on the AirPod itself and they fall out too easily. Ended up being able to purchase Sennheiser 450SEs for £70 instead of £180 as they were on offer on their website

[quiet ether]

you can create a post describing your issue and someone will try to help

[faint furnace]

Already figured that out Ahaha thank you

[haughty girder]

airpods are bad, airpods pro sure... still no

if going wired, 20 is the threshold for better than airpods

or less, I paid about 15usd for my tangzu wan'er which sound better than airpods gen 2

[unique wind]

tangzu waner are the goat

[haughty girder]

for 100 you can get some pretty nice stuff

[unique wind]

not wireless noise cancelling headphones

[haughty girder]

Galaxy buds 2 and Nekocake exist

[unique wind]

those are not headphones

[haughty girder]

He said replace airpods so I assumed normie and wants tws

and just calls everything headphones

but i nthat case

[unique wind]

naw he specified over ear

i don’t know of any good items in that class

[haughty girder]

wireless and anc huh

oh 100 gbp

yea I don't recall any good options there

maybe the play is to get some cheap ol' soundcores and EQ the shit out of the bass

I mean like, bass shelf at -10db ish

Q value at 1

[molten lotus]

What stage of audiofile is just saying fuck it and going to the symphony

[unique wind]

discord audiophiles don’t go outside so that doesn’t happen

they stay inside and convince themselves dacs have unique sound signatures

and either buy 5000 different headphones or ten different source chains for the same headphone

[haughty girder]

I do actually go to the concert hall here

[tepid torrent]

Holy shit can LTT stop reviewing garbage headphones for once

[weak rapids]

you could prob use an xlr to usb cable with an xm8500 and it would still be decent

[haughty girder]

no please don't

[haughty girder]

??

[weak rapids]

it could totally be decent lmao

ultra budget

[haughty girder]

I've done it. It's not

[tepid torrent]

Fairphone xl, ATH M50x

Like cmon

[haughty girder]

they cover what gets views

[weak rapids]

damn

[tepid torrent]

Brother, good products get views too

[haughty girder]

I don't see an issue? LTT already covered stuff like 6xx enough

[haughty girder]

Most people don't care.

When you realize how many people are happy with the speakers built into their phones

you realize that audio doesn't actually get views

[weak rapids]

id watch LTT vids on good headphones

[tepid torrent]

Title: “This headphone is really good!”
Easily breaks 1m

[weak rapids]

its all in titles

if you're title is "the hd6xx is really good" it will have less views than "this headphone is really good" cause you just gave everyone what they wanted to know in the title

[lean grove]

audio doesnt really follow the same hype of new products. IEMs do, but as far as headphones go there's really only a handful of "good" stuff out there

and none of it is really new

like you can look at short circuit and see that their headphone videos rarely break 300k views

meanwhile monitors, laptops, and mice frequently do

[unique wind]

i’m glad iems blew up in popularity because now endgame iems are $20

still waiting for a $20 iem to have variations/monarch bass tuning though

[lean grove]

"endgame"

https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-inigo-montoya-meaning-are-you-sure-of-that-gif-7536490

[ornate linden]

Everything is endgame if you're poor

[lean grove]

you can have a new endgame every few months too

really effective

good bang for buck

rich people only get one or two endgames

[unique wind]

must pay $1000 for iems and convince myself they have superior “technicalities”

[lean grove]

nah $1000 on a disposable piece of audio is stupid

[tepid torrent]

Iems arent stupid

[lean grove]

$1000 iems are

waste of money.

[tepid torrent]

Eh

Ig

[lean grove]

shits gonna be gross and beat up after 2 years of daily use.

[tepid torrent]

There isnt an iem over like 600 I would consider to be fair

[lean grove]

hence kilobuck iem being stupid

[unique wind]

dropping a band on iems is absolutely ridiculous unless theyre custom molds

[tepid torrent]

Symphonium meteor is the limit I would go for an iem

[lean grove]

$200 is my limit. and they better be fucking good

we'll see what happens with those xmems iems tho

i want a pair of those.

[unique wind]

$200 is probably my hard limit too, and it's extremely difficult to even justify spending that

performance basically plateaus at $25

[lean grove]

we get it michael you dont like spending money

[unique wind]

what these

[lean grove]

silicon wafer drivers

[unique wind]

what the hell silicon iems

[lean grove]

yeah

god-tier eq-ability

apparently very cheap

[unique wind]

auto dsp with that could be pretty cool

[lean grove]

but current only iem that uses them is $1000

they can be run from a very special dongle tho

[unique wind]

do you think this has actual potential to be big or is this a cool proof of concept thatll never go anywhere

[lean grove]

no its got potential

massive potential

at canjam one year they were handing out samples

and they've made some speaker prototypes with it

so they're just waiting for other people to use them to engineer stuff

the main thing is the god-tier eq-ability like i said.

in speakers you can do all sorts of custom dispersion patterns with a tweeter array

[unique wind]

they could probably achieve mind blowingly smooth frequency response

klaus' worst nightmare

ive never thought about this as a concept at all

[unique wind]

finna upscale that image real quick

[lean grove]

that might not be xmems

https://xmems.com/blog/solid-state-fidelity-the-era-of-ultra-high-resolution-mems-speakers-has-arrived/

[unique wind]

some of the text is gonna be squiggly

[lean grove]

https://xmems.com/blog/hi-res-audio-why-solid-state-mems-speakers-are-ideal-for-high-definition-audio-experiences/

[unique wind]

fast boys

[lean grove]

yeah. just gotta wait a bit for industry to start pumping these out

they need to be powered kinda like electrostatics

they need a bias, albiet much smaller than your average estat

and a much higher voltage than what average headphone needs

[tepid torrent]

Some people have claimed that apparently this new driver will push out BAs

[lean grove]

BAs don't need a bias to be run

So they'll still have a place.

[tepid torrent]

Whats that

[lean grove]

A bias is a constant voltage applied across the driver.

if you've heard people talk about electrostats they often mention normal bias or pro bias

of like. hundreds of volts

real easy to do.

but it means that they're directly incompatible with normal amps

the xmems need a bias of like 10-20 volts it looks like

a lot less, but still means that they need special amps

[broken heath]

Are these headphones just as good or better than a Beats Solo 3?

Sony Wireless Headphones WH-CH510: Wireless Bluetooth On-Ear Headset with Mic for Phone-Call, Black https://a.co/d/7hVGZd5

[haughty girder]

eh

[broken heath]

@ me answer

[broken heath]

Well I’m asking cuz one is $130 and the other is $60

[haughty girder]

almost all anc headphones sick...

[rare hamlet]

for a budget of about 200, including a modmic, what headphones do people suggest for PC gaming? Im kind of tired of gamery ones that sound bad and mine finally died

[dry stratus]

both just as good or better doesn't mean much when you compare it to a beats solo 3

[molten lotus]

Ksc75 at $20 better than beats. HE400se better than beats. Salnotes zero better than beats. If you want bass wan'er iem $20 better than beats.

[molten lotus]

Modmic bad just get a $15 lapel or a cheap usb.

I am not going for fidelity on my mic and the fifine $35 mic does well (my mic jack shit the bed finally I bent it when installing the mobo) otherwise I'd still be using a $14 lapel

And for gaming the go to recommendation is ksc75 I haven't heard those yet but I have used the dt880 buy still prefer the he400se

[broken heath]

Break it down for me please?

[broken heath]

I want something affordable, $120 usd or less

[tepid torrent]

What exactly are you looking for

And no beats headphones are good

[molten lotus]

Everythingi named is $20

[halcyon basin]

is logitech blue sona good?

[tough lava]

Lol. True audiophiles don't let the air get poisoned by anything like other people. Their listening room sounds better than the concert hall.

[white gate]

Ideally both

I miss my previous apartment, I was 100m from a venue that had orchestral music every couple weeks

[dry stratus]

move back

[craggy wolf]

how good is the samsung earbuds pro 2 noise cancelling and audio quality

[molten lotus]

hey guys, are xm4s worth it in terms of audio quality? i dont care much about the ANC

right now i have airpod pro gen 2, i assume the upgrade in quality will be big?

hoping for any possible advice thanks!!

[dry stratus]

no

get N700NC M2 if you don't care much about ANC

a lot cheaper and better sound

[molten lotus]

I don't think ever

concert halls don't sound that great most of the time

[haughty girder]

The couple near me are pretty good

[weak rapids]

Bro how tf they gonna try and sell the Rode X for $400 and the Rodecaster duo for $500

[silver cosmos]

I just got some airpods pro 2, pretty sweet

[haughty girder]

Wait till you find out how much other mics cost

[weak rapids]

These are interfaces

[haughty girder]

OH

[weak rapids]

The rodecaster duo literally costs more than the rodecaster pro and is $150 less than the rodecaster pro 2

It had less features and costs more

[haughty girder]

I remember seeing it in a store but I don't do podcasts so I never cared

[weak rapids]

They haven’t released yet

[haughty girder]

The duo is out

[weak rapids]

Not yet

[haughty girder]

wut

[weak rapids]

Still in preorder stages

The rodecaster pro and pro 2 are

[haughty girder]

I literally saw it in store lmao

[haughty girder]

tf

[weak rapids]

You sure you didnt see a rodecaster pro or pro 2?

[haughty girder]

No I'm never sure lmao

I probably am wrong

[split niche]

what wireless earbuds with ANC do you guys recommend?

[haughty girder]

all the galaxy buds with anc except the beans

So 2, pro and pro2

[silver cosmos]

I just got airpods pro 2nd generation and theyre perfect but if youre on a budget i recommend the sony linkbuds s

Theyre $150 normally, sometimes less

[iron siren]

IS razer kaira pro good?

[silver cosmos]

idk but i do know that an alternative like microsoft xbox wireless headset are rlly good. Theyre designed for xbox software but work perfectly with laptops, phones and even both at the same time.

[dry stratus]

I am in pain right now

[molten lotus]

airpod pros

[molten lotus]

no

[dry stratus]

xbox headset is dog crap

raycon levels of bass

[silver cosmos]

well you can adjust them

[dry stratus]

there is no saving that thing

[iron siren]

i live in india so i am asking

[dry stratus]

neither

[molten lotus]

hmm

[molten lotus]

what are the parameters for the item you want to buy

budget, use case etc

[dry stratus]

unless you have an EQ that allows you to go +/- 20db on like 50 different frequencies to get rid of all peaks and dips ig

[iron siren]

less than 10000 rupees

[silver cosmos]

$121

[molten lotus]

10k rupees is 121$?

[silver cosmos]

yea

[molten lotus]

alright

[dry stratus]

pricing gonna be diff there probs

[molten lotus]

yeah

imports and shit

[silver cosmos]

yea

[molten lotus]

for that much the cheapest id recommend is the cloud 2

if you don't mind giving up on the mic then you have akg k361 which is excellent

and is likely the best thing you can buy in india for that much given it exists there

[iron siren]

i dont want cheapest

i need that good audio quality shit

mic

bluetooth stufzz

[molten lotus]

“I want good audio quality”
“Bluetooth”

[iron siren]

bro i am speaking intentionally like that

i just dont wanna speak like 1700s english

[tepid torrent]

??

[tepid torrent]

good audio quality
Bluetooth

Those things dont usually go together

That is what quaad was talking about

Not your way of speaking

[iron siren]

ohhhhh now i got

sorry

[quiet ether]

for general use bluetooth is still strong

and also i dont like being tethered

[broken heath]

Send links

[iron siren]

i fear that i may forget remove my headset while walking away from my setup

then rest is history

[quiet ether]

lmao

https://youtube.com/shorts/fWFO0LHDh18?feature=share

this old vine

[molten lotus]

I recommend you whatever fit your budget that sounds the best

You don't really have room for pickiness here

[iron siren]

Ok ill go with razer kairana pro

It's around 7000 ruppees

[weak rapids]

Audeze maxwell

[unique wind]

mid

[rare hamlet]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/273609167331

does anyone have an opinion of the MDR-1AM2?

Been considering it as I dont own a pair of any great headphones. I have a pair of XM5's for noise cancelling but Im thinking of using this for PC use and occasional music

[molten lotus]

why

literally said its trash

recommended you something better

you ignore all advice and return back to kairana pros

[molten lotus]

not worth it

k371 straight up better

[rare hamlet]

even at the 120 price?

[molten lotus]

i mean

yeah

[rare hamlet]

Ill try it out, thanks

[steel isle]

Audeze Maxwell just keeps getting pushed ahead here in sweden... previously, it was 5th of may, now its 17th of august.... I do not think my headset will survive that long.... 😢

[hidden cipher]

Are seinheiser hdr 180 decent for media on pc or should i switch headphones?

[lean grove]

You currently have the 180?

[hidden cipher]

Yes

[lean grove]

What don't you like about it?

[hidden cipher]

Its a great pair of headphones but im just wondering if there is better headphones for about the same price range

[lean grove]

Well the price of headphones you already have is $0. So in that price range what you own is gonna be best.

[hidden cipher]

I was happy to switch from my garbage dollars store gaming headset to these

Because jesus christ the headphones i had before were weak and uncomfortable

I had these awfull things before

[lean grove]

Take a look at the hd560s, the hd6xx, and the dt880 250 ohm.

[dark storm]

Gamers gonna gamer

There’s people out there that ask questions more out of seeking validation rather than asking actual advice

[mild quail]

I’m back again with obscure issues

This is connected to the line-in port on my pc.

I connected it to line-out of iMac.

When I did, it went crazy with buzzing, and beeped when I moved the mouse.

Not sure what’s going on here.

I moved it away from other cables, so it’s not that…

Even did it on the mic-in port on the pc

How would I remove this horrible noise?

[topaz pumice]

Electro magnetic interference my friend

https://youtu.be/-aTqmbPTHaA

[molten lotus]

electrical interference

google how to solve it

[mild quail]

I figured as much just having trouble finding solutions

[topaz pumice]

Start wrapping shit in tinfoil

[mild quail]

Thought about doing that but didn't think it would do anything

[haughty girder]

no that's if shielding is the issue

[mild quail]

Does that actually work?

for RF?

[haughty girder]

grounding and shielding have different solutions

[topaz pumice]

Yeah it'll shield stuff, just be careful to not short anything

[haughty girder]

say, your guitar is picking up a buzz

if you touch something metal and it goes away, it's a shielding issue

if you touch something metal and it gets worse, it's a grounding issue

[mild quail]

not using a guitar, but I assume the iMac can stand in for that?

[haughty girder]

yea

my headphones were like that

[topaz pumice]

They might've been dumb and put antennas or other emitters near the DAC on the motherboard

My friend had that happen recently with his HP laptop

[mild quail]

I have a wireless controller, 2 wireless mice, and a wireless headset as well...

[haughty girder]

or the motherboard has power traces right against traces to the output which would just be interference

[mild quail]

mobo does not have WiFi or BT though

[topaz pumice]

Either one could be the cause, and it's usually not very easy to fix

One solution could be an external usb DAC

[haughty girder]

ofc

[topaz pumice]

Even just a very cheap one at that to isolate it from the mobo

[mild quail]

I'm using an AV receiver for the speakers, could that be a problem?

Can't run the speakers direct to PC btw, they use speaker wire

+/-

[topaz pumice]

Do headphones have the same issue on the iMac?

Try and figure out whether it's the Av or the pc

[mild quail]

It's anything connected to the Line In of the PC, other than my phone using adapter, but I think the phone adapter has a filter.

[topaz pumice]

https://youtu.be/einxGsiuwso

[mild quail]

scratch that, red herring
I completely disconnected the Line In and it's still here

time to start unplugging more till it's gone

[topaz pumice]

Try the video

You're getting a constant 50-60hz noise when connected

[mild quail]

note: DO NOT be playing audio while messing with settings

ouch

[topaz pumice]

He has some tips such as making sure all are connected to one outlet or keeping power cables away from speaker cables

[mild quail]

About that

[topaz pumice]

Proof cable management is more than just aesthetic

[mild quail]

With this it is

But I can't do much about it

So I shall just use optical

[topaz pumice]

Time to tinfoil Ur audio out

If it is interference from Ur power cables that will help

[mild quail]

I'll move it outta here soon enough

get a better controller vs an old AV receiver

Put the receiver on a TV

[lean grove]

Sounds like gpu noise leaking through PC

[topaz pumice]

True

[mild quail]

Hmm good point

[topaz pumice]

Pfft bin the gpu

Good audio is more important

[mild quail]

I am not rich.

I just basically blew out my ears again though, OUCH

ok it's ANYTHING plugged into the rear

so definitely interference

[lean grove]

Very weird

Normally the front is worse

[mild quail]

I don't have the front connected at all so can't test

I removed it from the case

rather, I removed its cable

[molten lotus]

A cheap USB dac would help

Just the apple dongle even

[haughty girder]

not necessarily, especially when shielding is likely the issue here

[thorn shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/printer-print-gif-26084882

[mild quail]

printer?

[craggy wolf]

Why can't I turn this on

[topaz pumice]

That's a question for customer support

[dry stratus]

The only channels I use be like:

used to include build a pc, but that's dead now

[hushed drum]

Hello, can someone recommend a the best pair of earbuds i can get in ~ 300-400USD

[dry stratus]

buds or earphones

[hushed drum]

Buds

Buds are wireless right?

Like airpods and stuff?

[dry stratus]

usually wireless is TWS

buds name often used for the airpod style

[hushed drum]

Tws? (Full form pls)

[dry stratus]

TWS = Truly wireless

[hushed drum]

Oh cool

I mean things like airpods

[dry stratus]

tho honestly... for that price I would just go airpods pro

not the greatest without an iphone tho
still good overall product

[hushed drum]

I mean i would but then they if gonna launch new ones this year

Then i would wait

I have an iphone

[dry stratus]

newer isn't always better tho

[hushed drum]

So airpods pro 2 were my first choice

[dry stratus]

looks at sony releasing XM5 which is worse than XM4

[hushed drum]

Yeah thats why i asked

[hushed drum]

What? I heard they were better

[dry stratus]

XM5 has worse sound, slightly worse overall ANC, and worse build because can't fold
worse comfort because headband thinner

[hushed drum]

Oh

Ok

Good to know

[dry stratus]

and so on

[hushed drum]

So i should get the airpod pros or pro 2s?

[dry stratus]

just get the 2s

[hushed drum]

Also someone told me i should go for the tanchjim echo

Are they any good?

Idk much about this stuff

So

[dry stratus]

would still take the airpods pro over them myself feature wise..
haven't tried the ones you mentioned but ehh

[hushed drum]

So basically the pros would be my best bet in the 400dollar price range (USD)

[dry stratus]

as an overall product especially for an iphone user, I would say so

probably a bit better sound to be found cheaper
but would be worse on the rest
Airpods pros still have very well balanced sound

[hushed drum]

Cool

Thanks

[molten lotus]

so on the other hand you are willing spend 400$ and get an item worse than pros 2 and possibly 3?

[hushed drum]

Elaborate?

[molten lotus]

I was commenting on you being unwilling to buy pros 2 but another item for it's cost

[molten lotus]

What was the meme review of that really high end headphone where he sits down listens to them and just flinches

[hushed drum]

I wasnt unwilling I was just trying to explore other options dont be a smartass

[molten lotus]

fair

[vital glade]

whats the best program to use for an EQ?

on windows 11

[dry stratus]

The only EQ anyone ever mentions here: EQAPO + Peace

[vital glade]

alright ill try it out, thanks!

[visual valve]

What is your opinion on Abigail usb c dongal DAC/Amp combo?

[buoyant vale]

it's ok

[peak yacht]

bro was helpful

[molten lotus]

It’s a sad day ladies and gents
Ripped out the “upgrades” to my car AV, couldn’t bring myself to start hacking harnesses

[haughty girder]

It's slightly better than the generic cx31993, but a lot harder to obtain

[tepid torrent]

Fine for a cheap DAC

Clean

[haughty girder]

If it was me I'd just go a cx31993

[rancid cedar]

Hi, I'm looking for recommendations for a good wired headset around $100-$200. I will be using it with my go xlr mixer. Its main uses will be for gaming and streaming.

[unique wind]

wait do you already have a XLR microphone then?

[rancid cedar]

yeah u have the shure sm7b

[unique wind]

Sennheiser HD560s for open back and AKG K371 for closed back

[next sky]

I also really like the Beyerdynamic DT990 (open back) or DT 770 (closed back).
They have unmatched price to performance IMO.

[dull trout]

theres also jcally if youre looking for cheap type c.

[tepid torrent]

Most people would not agree with this opinion, especially the DT770

Which is horribly tuned

[next sky]

Ok, I'm not really that familiar with the 770, I have a pair at work that I use occasionally but I am not really critically listening with them. I honestly only mentioned them for a closed back alternative to the 990.
But the 990 are really doing a solid job for me in the 10+ years I am using them.

Especially at that price point.

[pulsar stone]

should probably also consider the ATH m40x or m50x

[dry stratus]

please no to all of the above

DT 770 is not good
990 is a worse 880
no point to getting a 990

m40x and m50x are overpriced mediocrity

for closed back just get like k361/k371 for that price range...

[next sky]

well at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference ... 😉

[dry stratus]

quality wise, no

[next sky]

are you talking about build quality?

[dry stratus]

sound

sound preference ≠ sound quality

[past grotto]

does anyone know the max bitrate for the sony xm5s (over 3.5mm)?

[molten lotus]

none?

[primal fulcrum]

This is the only way to

LISTENING TO MUSIC

[dry stratus]

xm4 > xm5

[primal fulcrum]

I have 2xm3 in SLI.

[past grotto]

Oh I thought there was a limit, but im guessing it would be limited interms of codecs?

[molten lotus]

your hardware would be the limiting factor

first and foremost

[past grotto]

mmmm, but if i were to play ALAC with them, it would default to aac and its max bitrate?

[molten lotus]

you said 3.5

bluetooth is a different story

also alac isn't lossless, it is lossless enough to not matter but talking objectively it isn't lossless

[past grotto]

i know i did, but would it still run whatever bitrate alac would play at? or is there zero limits for codecs via 3.5

[molten lotus]

there isn't a codec for 3.5

its just an audio signal

codecs are exclusively for bluetooth and wireless

[past grotto]

ah, now i get it

[molten lotus]

but xm5 to my knowledge uses dsp to fix its broken default tuning

like the previous xm headphones

using 3.5 would make the headphones be passive instead of active turning off the dsp

and possibly making the headphone sound a lot worse

usb is a better solution i think

since that doesn't turn off dsp

[past grotto]

ah, but for bluetooth, would it just default to aac if i were to try playing apple music with alac?

[molten lotus]

I don't know

just google whether the headphone supports alac or not

and whether your device does

[past grotto]

I see. I was wondering because i want to take full advantage of apple music since im switching away from tidal

[molten lotus]

don't expect a notable difference

especially with bluetooth

[past grotto]

of course, i do hear a noticeable difference between normal and hifi over bluetooth with airpods anyway

will lossless audio ever be supported over bluetooth

[molten lotus]

maybe, I'm not am engineer

[vital glade]

whoever suggested peace+apo equalizer yesterday, thanks it works great!

[unique wind]

probably

LDAC gets close enough already so it’s fair to assume we’ll get there eventually

(perceivably lossless to our ears like FLAC)

[dry stratus]

they did not succeed then

[haughty girder]

they did

Fix doesn't mean go to good

Fix just means go to what they want

[dry stratus]

they didn't, because its still broken tuning

[haughty girder]

they want a bass signature for the masses

[dry stratus]

they fixed "the peaks and dips" probs, but not the broken tuning

[unique wind]

it makes sense to tune headphones to have a bass shelf because that's scientifically what most people will prefer

but i dont understand why none of the consumer audio brands can get the treble right

[haughty girder]

boosted makes trap sound more defined

[haughty girder]

It's not broken tho

it's just tuned not for audiophiles

[unique wind]

i know soundguys is a meme but i cant find other measurements

it doesnt seem that bad compared to other consumer options

[haughty girder]

wait that's not bad

[dry stratus]

its tuned to sound like a broken device honestly
its like how young peeps make their cars sound broken because they like it

[haughty girder]

BINGO! "because they like it" therefore not broken

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rtings is another option ig

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mud simulator

like almost every single dynamic driver IEM

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xm4 > xm5

[haughty girder]

no??? just old kz

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basically every popular single dd iem has mud

[dry stratus]

would still say N700NC M2 or Bose QC45 over any other tho...

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thieaudio monarch and moondrop variations have the ideal bass shelf

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moondrop Chu/aria se, tangzu wan'er, KZ ZVX, D-fi, etc.

not "mud"

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the two moons and wan'er have mud

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eh not quite.

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youre not supposed to start a bass shelf at 300hz

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should a subwoofer be called a subwoofer when it probably isn't just subbasss

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a subwoofer is supposed to be only subbass

the industry standard crossover for movies is 80hz

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yes because it produces frequncies under a woofer

so, sub woofer

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every single thing just sounds like the usual bloated bass, lel

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...

That's not even a bass shelf lmao

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if only they would just do punchy bass instead of a rumbling and bloated vibrator

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yeah it sounds awful with no subbass

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that is basically every open back headphone

they only punch and don’t have low rumble

stock anyway, no reason you can’t eq most of them

[dry stratus]

still would take arya for bass

most bass doesn't even sound like bass

it just sounds like someone thinking very loudly too close to their crappy mic being like HMMMM

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yeah that's like 80-150hz

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?

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Sundara vs hd560s

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560S all the way

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starts at 400hz lol

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sundara

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how about this?

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splendid

/j

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30db of low bass...

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tuning in 2035:

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It's not like that

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boost starting from 20khz

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there's actual research

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lies

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most people prefer a 5.5db bass shelf starting around 120hz

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Although... Harman places it at 150hz

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its just "this sounds crappy enough to appeal to the masses and cheap enough to produce... lets ask 500$ for this thing that sounds worse than a 10$ device"

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so what we're seeing here is that most IEMs literally have more midbass than harman

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god forebid a headphone is tuned to appeal to most people instead of conpin

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Lmao

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yeah unfortunately

[dry stratus]

tuned to not just be bass* looks at raycon

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i just want variations or monarch tuning but not $500-1000

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there you go

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KSC75 is my type of sound

[unique wind]

naw thats a crinacle collab i cant do it

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no bass and hella treble

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sooo no bass

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-15db bass +5db treble

insect hearing target curve

[dry stratus]

kinda joking, tho I do like hifiman's tuning, lel

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neutral bright with dip around 2khz iirc is what hifiman does...

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bad

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???

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here I am actually thinking about getting like a QC45 or even airpods max... pain

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y

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igotchu

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oh my god that's horrendous

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the power of planars

[dry stratus]

QC45 because ANC, airpods max only because it fits my mouse and keyboard, lol

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but airpods max is garbo

[dry stratus]

yes

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it's not garbo

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it is

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well, mostly 1 extreme dip

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Top tier ANC and transparency modes

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it massively lacks treble

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Just don't expect to listen to music with it

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lmaoooooo

[dry stratus]

both I would just use for ANC and having sound for YT on my phone or just listening to some garbo quality music

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but srsly the transparency mode is awesome on the max

It somehow retains where the sound is coming from

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no treble simulator

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sooo

[dry stratus]

when people are new to audio and hear "flat is best":

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TBH actually very eq'able

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youd have a fun time doing that on mobile

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Poweramp equalizer?

It's not hard and it's free

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it’s definitely nowhere near as fixable as most headphones