#audio-tech

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haughty girder
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Hd600 runs off a dongle fine, but magni is a good choice for it

unique wind
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ignore reddit almost all of them are morons

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magni modi is an affordable endgame stack

molten lotus
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yea we'll see in a month after I finally see an ENT but I love what I have now

weak rapids
unique wind
molten lotus
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don't worry every month redditors move onto some other stupid rumor to echo, it just happened to be related to you

weak rapids
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I wonder if anyone’s ever bought the hd400 pros

thorny tulip
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schiit amps are great for the price, they offer great value and are clearly at the very least above a bunch of audiophile BS stuff, or at least give the impression they are. My only issue with schiit DACs are that the usb controller or watever they're using is problematic, has been since the first gen. at least for me, i;ve had 3 schiit dac'ss and all 3 have had the same issue: usb fails after some time until you heat up the backside with a heatgun then it's fine for a bit again. generally i'm at the point where i don't want schiit dacs for USB just because of the bad experiences i've had (there's a bunch of ppl complaining about this online if you look for schiit dac usb issues and it's always the same thing)

unique wind
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ive had my modi plugged in and turned on for almost 2 years with no issues

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i believe you completely i just dont think it's as wide spread of an issue as it seems

molten lotus
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pretty unlucky, I imported my modi from usa

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still works on a daily basis

thorny tulip
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on that note: i'm looking at Cambridge Audio CXN v2, i bought it and trying it out RN and wanted to know:
purely for the sound, is the Cambridge Audio CXN v2 good for the price as a DAC? I like the streaming and the connectivity, am a bit confused by all the talk about the upsampling it does, and theres' not a lot of reviews on it. Compare it to another $1000 DAC would it stand on it's own? (notwithstanding marketing BS and the fact that CXN doesn't really do DSD)

unique wind
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purely for the sound dacs are not supposed to sound different from one another

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the reasons to get an expensive dac are connections, features, design, etc, they should all sound the same if they're all designed well

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i’m not familiar with the upscaling you’re talking about though

thorny tulip
thorny tulip
molten lotus
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The fact that the apple dongle is already great for $9

unique wind
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yeah it’s awesome how cheap audio is these days

calm forge
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@unique wind THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH! The cx31993 adapter you recommended finally came today and IT WORKS!!! No hiss whatsoever (as far as I have tested)

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Amazon botched the shipping, it was supposed to be here last friday

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Had to download an EQ program to add an EQ to the output but it was a simple job

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just had to put a -15bd "pre-amp" setting on it so I could keep my windows volume setting where I usually have it (30, the DAC boosted it to where 15 was the same as the old 30 lvl). Accidentally bumped the pre-amp off while testing and blew my eardrums

unique wind
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i’m glad it solved your problem man

calm forge
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Depends on what you like. I'm a fan of KZ. Budget price but multiple drivers in one IEM. I'm using the KZ ZSN Pro X right now. I have a more of less V shaped EQ running and they sound good for music and gaming. High sensitivity so watch out for interference noise.

molten lotus
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kz finna outdated rn

calm forge
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tepid torrent
calm forge
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I'm open to trying something new

tepid torrent
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Especially because kz was caught awhile ago having non functional drivers in their iems

calm forge
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Loved my KZ S2's so I thought I'd stick to hybrid driver arrangements.

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0-0

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That's bad

tepid torrent
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Kz is only popular because dankpods recommended them

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For whatever reason

calm forge
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Ehh, I only found them at the time of the S2 kickstarter, from that recommendation and others.

haughty girder
molten lotus
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how so

haughty girder
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kz d-fi

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Actually really cool

molten lotus
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are the squigglies out yet

haughty girder
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switches directly on the iem, squigs show that its actually tuned well

molten lotus
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pretty good actually

tepid torrent
haughty girder
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referencing that, kz's own squigs can be kinda guessed on top

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because the switches change tuning and there's 4

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so 16 total

unique wind
haughty girder
haughty girder
unique wind
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yeah the treble is basically perfect

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the bass shelf starts too high up imo but that’s common with harman iems

molten lotus
tardy smelt
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hey i got a new gaming laptop but when i plugged in my headphones, it doesnt pick up the mic from my headphone it picks up the mic on the laptop. how do i fix this

chrome island
unique wind
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are you a kz salesman

haughty girder
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No there's a few

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CCA CRA, ZVX, D-Fi

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That's 3!

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actually the CRA also has a + version so that's 4!

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so that's CCA CRA/+ (same company), KZ ZVX, D-FI (with and without switches)

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Wait that's like 4.5 then

tepid torrent
haughty girder
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No?

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The new CRA had better treble

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aka cra+

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what's the point of the CRA if CRA+ costed same and was better

unique wind
haughty girder
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O

tepid torrent
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They discontinued the original

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Made a new revision that rid of anything that made it special

haughty girder
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what special

tepid torrent
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The v shaped ness of it

haughty girder
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CRA+ is definitely V shaped

tepid torrent
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That was its gimmick

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Im not talking about the +

unique wind
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how do you define a v-shaped iem? treble above IE harman?

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because almost all iems are very bass boosted

haughty girder
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it needs to be bass boosted

tepid torrent
haughty girder
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5db more than over ear headphones

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Because it bypasses even more of the ear

unique wind
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zetian wu is the v-shaped king imo

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it has treble a couple db over harman and sounds very sparkly but not sibilant for most music

tardy smelt
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hey i got a new gaming laptop but when i plugged in my headphones, it doesnt pick up the mic from my headphone it picks up the mic on the laptop. can someoe help please

unique wind
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what headphones and what laptop do you have

tardy smelt
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i got asus f15 and i got steelseries headphones

tepid torrent
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Should be a setting

tardy smelt
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it doesnt work

tepid torrent
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Restart your laptop

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And do it again

small hollow
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Maybe you have program to set to the audio on the pc?

haughty girder
small hollow
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Like realtek app or something like that

molten lotus
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does your jack support both headphone and mic? Most do, but always a chance lol

unique wind
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that's what i was wondering too which is why i asked what headphones he has

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if it's a steelseries gaming headset it's most likely usb so that wouldn't matter

molten lotus
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driver issue?

small hollow
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In my work pc I have to set what kind of headset I have plugged in and then nit enable the mic

unique wind
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🫃

molten lotus
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bro???

unique wind
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?

marsh wren
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Hey hey could I get some help with my headphones please. I recently got a bluetooth adapter so I can use my bluetooth headphones with my computer (no built in bluetooth) it's been pretty nice but when I join a discord call, google meets call or any call my music just sounds so bad and low quality anybody have any fixes? literally anything I play on youtube or any other source that outputs audio sounds horrible once I join calls. It all goes back to normal once I leave the call

white gate
marsh wren
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my headphones have a 3.5mm jack would that help at all?

lean grove
# marsh wren oh I see, is there a way to get around this?

the way you get around it is by not using bluetooth. a lot of wireless gaming headsets have a little transmitter that uses wifi instead of bluetooth.
and maybe the 3.5mm jack would help. worst case scenario you get high quality audio through the headphones and no microphone

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but that 3.5mm jack is worth trying at least. youll need a 4 pole 3.5mm cable if you want your mic to work

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assuming your headset can use a 4 pole 3.5mm to transmit its mic, that is

marsh wren
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my headphone microphone is atrocious anyway so I'll pass on that

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I don't know too much about audio cables is there like a ideal type I should try to get?

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do you have any recommendations

lean grove
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no. so long as you get the right connection type. the only thing that matters after that is durability.

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and as far as durability goes, just try and find something with an appropriately chunky strain relief around the connectors

marsh wren
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gotcha

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thank you for the help!

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I feel like dropping 30 dollars on a cable is pretty bs

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but what do you think

lean grove
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looks too rigid

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and heavy

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and that material looks like it'll broadcast vibrations right into your headphones every time you move

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i had one from anker that was alright. and im also seeing some from monster that look good

marsh wren
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they are like 4 feet long

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hard to find some that are like 6 feet

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hmm

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I think 4 feet will work alright

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holy found one for 9 feet lol

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this is an out there idea but do you think its possible if I use a dedicated mic that I will be able to listen to audio thats not so low quality

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because the problem isnt that one side is good quality and the other is bad its once I join a call all audio that goes to my headphones is total crap

haughty girder
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they were famed for speaker cables in the 80s into early 2000s where they realized headphones were gonna take over...

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then they kinda just fell off

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their cables are meh at best nowadays

lean grove
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but also these are $10

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and have a proper strain relief

haughty girder
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and the strain relief is stiff enough that the cable will still crack right underneath it

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I don't have that exact cable so I can't say for sure

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but I have a few of their flat cables and they're not well made

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very noisy

lean grove
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idk man.

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almost no 1 or 2 star amazon reviews

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if there's one thing amazon reviews like to do its show off broken products

haughty girder
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what are they connecting to tho

lean grove
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how am i supposed to know

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like if you're gonna jump rope with it, yeah sure it'll break

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but also

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its $10

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if you have a better option feel free to ping jaguar9307

haughty girder
marsh wren
haughty girder
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do you have the original cable that came with it

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it would've been in the box with the charging cord

marsh wren
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I don't recall it coming with a cable

haughty girder
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check the box

marsh wren
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let me check I have the box here

haughty girder
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K

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it should come with the cable with a mic and controls built into the cable

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and they use Apple's controltalk volume resistance thing instead of androids

marsh wren
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don't have

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I believe only cable it came with was the charger

haughty girder
marsh wren
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nope

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I don't remember getting that

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checked the case it came with as well

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empty

haughty girder
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interesting

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anyways you're best off going to amazon, searching beats solo 3 cable and getting the cheapest one

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solo 3 connector is a tiny bit recessed iirc which makes the cable plug thickness matter

marsh wren
haughty girder
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I'd assume there's cheaper if you don't need the charging cable as well

marsh wren
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says discontinued by manufacturer

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so I probably got mine after it

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I already ordered the dedicated mic so hopefully it works out since I want to keep bluetooth but it not I'll probably get the cord

real wasp
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I just got the mtrack solo and it has by far more ground noise than my q802

placid geyser
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just put in the order bizniz

real wasp
placid geyser
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i remember when i just got my XLR mic i forgot to enable the 48V

real wasp
placid geyser
real wasp
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I got a samson c01 if that matters

placid geyser
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i use a audio technica at2020

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it would seem to me something at your interface is on low voume

real wasp
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Output and I out to max and in windows set to max doesn’t change anything

placid geyser
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weird

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i just use a focusrite scarlet solo for my mic and no issues

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so sorry i cannot help you

molten lotus
real wasp
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yeah like i used to use it

molten lotus
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something is wrong then

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that interface has preamps way better than those of a mixer's

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least the entry level behringer ones

molten lotus
real wasp
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yeah and i believe i would still be louder when having all set to max both input knob and output knob

molten lotus
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something is very wrong

real wasp
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got the driver installed, volume in the control panel maxed out

molten lotus
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that should always be kept at 100% anyways

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you sure there isn't any eq program or something else messing up the sound

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your only choice might be rma

weak rapids
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Always possible he has a dead unit

real wasp
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i do have eq apo installed but nothing else but a eq running there

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gonna try it out on a raspberry pi later

real wasp
molten lotus
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wdym

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rma means returning

real wasp
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when its plugged in i have quite the amount of noise in my headphones alltho everything is at 0

molten lotus
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return merchandise authorization

real wasp
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in my pc

molten lotus
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I think your unit is busted

real wasp
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when the m track is in my pc that way

haughty girder
real wasp
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currently 0

haughty girder
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that's your issue

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set main output to 0, then turn gain knob clockwise

real wasp
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im not using it right now but i can have it on 10 until i clip and im still quiet

molten lotus
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Forgive me if I’m ignorant on this
But wouldn’t 0 gain just result in basically passthrough?

haughty girder
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yes

haughty girder
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I'd say a c01 needs abt 18db of gain when close to face and you speak at a reasonable volume

real wasp
molten lotus
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also why are you using 0 gain

real wasp
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it was a joke cause its not plugged in

molten lotus
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right

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mic gain needs to be almost maxed out with most cheap interfaces anyways, nothing out of the norm to use your stuff at 14 o clock

real wasp
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gain is input right?

molten lotus
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input 1

real wasp
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yes

molten lotus
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just turn shit up until it works bro you wont break anything

real wasp
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yeah did that and output to max

real wasp
molten lotus
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yes

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I plug in my headphones into a speaker amp directly and have practically no noise

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your pc power might be unclean

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in which case anything will have noise

real wasp
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i always used my zs 10 pro and had with the m track even more noise than with the q802 and with the 770 pros i dont hear any noise on the m track

real wasp
molten lotus
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move the interface away from other electronics

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move every wire related to your audio setup from other electronics and wires

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and lastly is getting a usb power cleanser

real wasp
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i just used the shortest cable i had and plugged it right next to my pc in and still the same amount of noise

molten lotus
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then it isn't an issue you can solve by moving cables

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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if everything you connect to your computer is noisy including usb devices you need a usb power filter

real wasp
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tried it on my raspberry steam deck and pc everywhere is about the same level of noise with every slider set to 0, i guess its the product then?

white gate
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👀

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Linus was goddamn right about being able to eat off every surface

molten lotus
weak rapids
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If everything this guy plugs into his PC makes noise his PC is probably covered in static electricity lmao

weak rapids
real wasp
real wasp
zenith spear
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This any good?

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I just want like a volume knob or something for my PC

bitter hollow
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Backorder maxwells shipping

wintry mirage
steel escarp
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@molten lotus the audio metropolis owner just banned me for saying the zen can sounds better than the mangni for the he400se

molten lotus
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average audio discord owner

steel escarp
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zen can does sound better

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its not just me and nyvo who think so right?

molten lotus
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never tried the 400se with zen can

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but its pretty plausible

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considering how fine the zen can is

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im really curious about how zen air can is compared to magni though

steel escarp
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according to my calculations the mangi would have more output power

molten lotus
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doesn't matter a whole lot since both of them are enough to drive most headphones out there without clipping

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unless you want to drive k1k or someshit

glossy shore
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bruh was curious to see what this channel was, needles to say I have no idea what any of what you are talking about is

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guessing amps or something?

unique wind
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they’re mostly talking about psycho acoustics

molten lotus
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yeah amps

glossy shore
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ah nice

unique wind
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i saw you in a sharur video grey

steel escarp
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oh yeah

molten lotus
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yeah it was really funny

steel escarp
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the gladiator cable video

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💀

unique wind
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no

molten lotus
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no

unique wind
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the hifiman he400se video

molten lotus
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its the 400se video

steel escarp
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oh which one

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oh yeah

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lmao

unique wind
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because you said something silly

molten lotus
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tbh camille once said

steel escarp
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I sold that headphone in a month

unique wind
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that’s fair it sounds terrible without eq

molten lotus
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"the entire video could have been named grey being stupid for 5 minutes"

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i laughed at that for a fair bit

steel escarp
unique wind
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it is without eq tbh

molten lotus
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apart from the bass it does everything fairly well

unique wind
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no it has a massive upper mid droop that completely ruins imaging and vocal clarity

steel escarp
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it made vocals so dead

molten lotus
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that's the average hifiman 2k dip

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i like it

unique wind
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lofi ears

molten lotus
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everything sounds very nasal with those attuned to harman

glossy shore
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bruh i have some headphones that I got from a charity shop for a quid. they happen to be pretty good.

steel escarp
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hifiman bros dying when there is lower treble harman target adherence

glossy shore
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thats about the extent of my audio experience

molten lotus
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i can see the appeal of both 2k dip and harman

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both are good

unique wind
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hifiman bros trying a thousand different amps in hopes that their poorly tuned mids will magically sound different

molten lotus
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2k dip makes stuff not nasal since every fucking artist wants to boost that for some reason

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but it hits clarity

steel escarp
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the audio metropolis moderators were telling members that if a headphone gets loud enough there is no reason to buy an amp, telling users to use onboard motherboard audio

unique wind
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that’s not really wrong though

glossy shore
# molten lotus awesome

they are from the 90s or early 2000s made by a company called mikomi other than that i have no info on them

molten lotus
steel escarp
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nothing like a good class A amp

unique wind
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all you really need for most headphones is 50mw

molten lotus
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not really

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if you want to run a 1khz test tone sure

steel escarp
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there is an audible difference just from having class A bias in the amp

molten lotus
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if you want to play music

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nah

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lol

steel escarp
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its not even all about power

molten lotus
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there is difference to quantity and quality of power

haughty girder
unique wind
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class a is just noisy and inefficient it doesn’t magically sound better

molten lotus
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michael literally anyone in the chat who has tried 2 amplifiers will tell you they sound different

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because you read asr all day long doesn't make amps sound all the same

unique wind
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it does

molten lotus
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no it does not

unique wind
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if an amp or dac sounds unique there’s something wrong with it

molten lotus
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no it doesn't

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it sounds nice

unique wind
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they’re all supposed to be audibly transparent

molten lotus
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that is why I get it for

steel escarp
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a class A and class B amp will sound different

haughty girder
molten lotus
unique wind
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they are

molten lotus
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if every amp was supposed to be transparent the market would be dead

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because they color shit to sound different variation exists

haughty girder
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tonality of the amp is a thing

unique wind
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buying amps for tonality differences is fucking bullshit you’re being scammed

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it’s not real klaus

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it’s a box that delivers power

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it either does it with audible distortion or it doesn’t

steel escarp
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oh yeah amps for tonality is a scam

molten lotus
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if tonality entails a downwards or an upwards slope in frequency response to you then yeah

unique wind
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that is exactly what tonality is yes

molten lotus
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no it isn't

unique wind
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it’s frequency response dependent

steel escarp
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high output impedance amps changing tonality for low impedance headphones

unique wind
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amps and dacs should not change the way anything sounds

molten lotus
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that's like

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what you think bro

unique wind
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if they do it’s either using DSP or it’s poorly designed

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or you’re believing in psychoacoustics

haughty girder
molten lotus
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if perfect sound can stimulate you then I am afraid to say you have brain damage

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because humans don't live in an acoustically perfect world

unique wind
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you have brain damage if you believe in this audiophile amp dac nonsense

haughty girder
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as well as low impedance beyers sounding different from the higher impedance ones even tho it should be the same

steel escarp
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all the dac chips have tiny audible flavours tho
sabre, cirrus, burr brown, AKM etc

unique wind
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they’re literally farming you for affiliate money or they’re ignorant themselves

steel escarp
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they all have known differences

molten lotus
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I can just

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get one amp off of amazon

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compare it and send it back if it sounds the same

glossy shore
# unique wind if an amp or dac sounds unique there’s something wrong with it

depending on the components used they will be differences, my pc speakers from the 90s have horrible harmonics when turned all the way up however my other slightly newer speakers sound better when at max cuz there is more base. yes they are all suposed to be "transparent" as you put it but most amps I have tryed have their own characteristics

haughty girder
molten lotus
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dacs are not perfected technology bro

unique wind
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this chat is full of literal glue eaters

molten lotus
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dacs will literally have varying impulse responses

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which is objective information

haughty girder
molten lotus
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how are you this self contrary

unique wind
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yeah youre right there is no debate, all good dacs are audibly transparent

molten lotus
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no they aren't

haughty girder
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None of them are "right" tho

molten lotus
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numerical perfection isn't audible perfection

steel escarp
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you have no reference point

haughty girder
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^

molten lotus
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human ears aren't supposed to receive perfect sine waves

steel escarp
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to what you can call perfect

molten lotus
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because that isn't how natural audio is

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natural audio is distorted because we live in a physical echo chamber

glossy shore
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converting from digital to analogue is not the issue it is the amplification after that since you cant just plug headphones right into the output from the dac chip there will be some form of amplifying circuit after the dac chip that is where the issues are

molten lotus
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neutrality is different than naturality

haughty girder
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At the end of the day we're digitally recreating analogue instruments, and it's impossible to convert from digital to analogue perfectly

molten lotus
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I think we got close enough for it to not matter

glossy shore
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lol

molten lotus
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but that is only to neutrality

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I can't tell apart most neutral dacs

unique wind
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this is the equivalent of arguing about theology

molten lotus
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but if they are colored I can tell them apart

unique wind
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you believe in something that doesn’t exist

steel escarp
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okay time to buy a multibit dac

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and jack off to it

haughty girder
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idk man

molten lotus
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we don't

haughty girder
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We do. Sound can't travel in space KEKW

unique wind
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your head is an acoustic chamber

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it’s empty

molten lotus
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why numerical perfection doesn't reflect natural sound

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is this difficult to understand

haughty girder
steel escarp
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even the amount of dac chips used will make a difference

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time to run dac chips in parallel to sum up outputs and average voltage difference

molten lotus
steel escarp
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name calling

unique wind
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the point i made isn’t up for debate

haughty girder
glossy shore
unique wind
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you believe in the make believe

molten lotus
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it is pretty objective, tube amps exist for a reason

unique wind
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it’s like christians saying prove god doesn’t exist and then going HA YOU CANT

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it’s a moot argument

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you believe in fiction

haughty girder
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That's science tho, you can't prove something doesn't exist

molten lotus
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science literally says we haven't achieved perfect digital to analog conversion

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you are self contradicting

haughty girder
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you can only say the evidence supports this argument, but all evidence is flawed therefore there is no definite answer

molten lotus
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not to mention amps and dacs have different impulses based on chip

unique wind
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we broke beyond the point of human audibility a long time ago

haughty girder
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Not with Dacs

unique wind
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you can get it in a $9 dongle

molten lotus
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lofi ears

steel escarp
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true

molten lotus
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you bought a dac and amp we told you sounds like an apple dongle

#

and to your surprise

unique wind
#

klaus you like 7db mid scoops i don’t wanna hear it

molten lotus
#

it sounds like an apple dongle

#

great job

unique wind
#

you’re literally huffing audio paint

steel escarp
#

hifiman edition xs has a 4db scoop

#

at best

molten lotus
#

you played yourself by buying an apple dongle with a higher power output

unique wind
molten lotus
#

and a placebo dac

haughty girder
#

Michael your arguments would be more effective if you would stop attacking the person KEKW

molten lotus
#

this tbh

unique wind
#

you can’t grasp that i don’t believe in your nonsense

#

i don’t buy gear to have it sound different

molten lotus
#

then buy an apple dongle and stick to that

unique wind
#

if it sounds different that’s a bad thing

molten lotus
#

it's not like you need to buy amplifiers at that point

unique wind
#

it’s horribly designed if it’s audibly unique to our very insensitive ears

haughty girder
#

"truely" transparent DACs are not a thing

molten lotus
#

No it isn't, it sounds different and I like it

glossy shore
haughty girder
#

within Amp classes I don't find much large differences outside of distortion and frequency response tbh, across classes, there is defo a difference

haughty girder
unique wind
#

if an amp has a non linear frequency response it failed at being an amp

molten lotus
#

I find most differences between amps and not between dacs

#

most dacs that achieve neutral are

#

well

#

neutral?

haughty girder
steel escarp
#

okay for a second imagine it was not the dac chip itself that is causing it to sound better or worse, there are still a lot of factors that differ per device that'd impact how it sounds like how it handles the power from the wall

#

dynamic range will differ by factors like noise floor

molten lotus
#

michael if you want to observe by a scientific point then you can still see different dacs sample in different forms

glossy shore
haughty girder
#

We literally add fuzz into guitar tones using pedals for what? To make the sound different. that doesn't mean it failed at being an electric guitar

unique wind
#

i’m curious to know if you personally can hear when polarity is flipped

#

it’s a very obvious change to my ears

steel escarp
#

I can hear it on my moondrop kato

#

it becomes harder on planars

haughty girder
#

And yes, guitar pickups have flavors too!

molten lotus
#

polarity changing is like really weird

#

it just sounds off

unique wind
#

it’s extremely obvious on my planar headphones

haughty girder
unique wind
#

flipping both

#

i don’t really have a preference between the two they just sound different

haughty girder
#

It's similar enough that idc

#

After I flipped one connector on my tripowin leas while repairing it and then flipping the other because I epoxied the first one together already

#

eheh

#

but anyways

steel escarp
#

isn't he400se inverted phase by default

#

like moondrop kato

unique wind
#

sharur says it is so it probably is yeah

#

but your source chain and cables can flip polarity too

haughty girder
#

I'm not an HE400se enjoyer

unique wind
#

it sounds terrible stock

#

and it’s not comfortable

steel escarp
#

kato or he400se?

haughty girder
#

I much prefer all three 150 dollar dynamic headphones over it

#

ie DT880, k612 and HD560s

unique wind
#

it sounds pretty solid with corrective eq but you can’t fix the pads being itchy and there being zero clamp with a bad headband

haughty girder
#

in that order too

steel escarp
#

DT880 on a good amp is nutty

haughty girder
#

Only the 600ohm one tho

steel escarp
#

I own the 250 ohm one

#

sadge

haughty girder
#

250 is fine, any lower and you're getting into weird territory

#

Like in theory they should sound the same

steel escarp
#

this amp is what I use rn for my dynamics

unique wind
#

they should yeah but beyerdynamic is bad

haughty girder
#

but something with damping factor (even past 1:8) makes the higher impedance ones sound much more controlled overall...

unique wind
#

different ohm models of the same headphones sound and measure very different

haughty girder
unique wind
#

totally different frequency response

haughty girder
#

DT880 600 and 250 are similar enough that it's fine

#

Pro and Studio (?)

steel escarp
#

dt990 250 ohms sounded like complete ass this amp

unique wind
#

250ohm 770s are atrocities but the 80ohm is pretty fixable if you have your own measurement rig

haughty girder
#

dt990 doesn't matter they're all garbage

steel escarp
#

faster decay means better staging

unique wind
#

dt990 is also very fixable but has weird ass squiggly upper treble stock

haughty girder
#

decay in this case would be caused by damping factor no?

#

or more like changed

haughty girder
#

when 880 is straight up better

steel escarp
#

the dt880 actually slaps with my amp

#

the bass is not boosted

unique wind
#

eqd 990 is easily the best of the 3

steel escarp
#

but its so well defined and present

haughty girder
steel escarp
#

which it was not on my zen can or magni 3+

unique wind
#

but id rather have an 80ohm 770 or any 880 if i wasn’t allowed to use eq

haughty girder
#

it's very heavily damped

unique wind
#

who cares man

steel escarp
#

dt990 treble is too harsh for me

haughty girder
#

880 is better

unique wind
#

it has the best soundstage and the smoothest frequency response post eq

haughty girder
#

880 black edition is a piece of garbage tho

steel escarp
#

also for its open sound it feels very thin sounding

#

and not that big

#

dt880 bigger

haughty girder
#

I make this argument a lot: Fuck soundstage in headphones

unique wind
#

that’s valid

#

soundstage is half psychoacoustics half not

steel escarp
#

but what if sound stage indicates better decay

haughty girder
#

It's like saying "oh this iem is bad because it's too narrow compared to this iem"

#

but at the end of the day it's an iem it's gonna be narrow anyways

unique wind
#

no iem has physical capabilities that give it wide sound stage it’s almost entirely dependent on frequency response for those

#

they’re literally in your ear

steel escarp
#

the tips do change it too

weak rapids
haughty girder
#

yes I know it doesn't interact with the pinna at all

unique wind
#

frequency response in the 12-20k region can change sound stage dramatically and our measurements for up there are iffy at best

haughty girder
#

but at the same time it's still an iem you're not escaping the fact the driver is literally 1cm from your ear

#

and the tuning becomes a very fine line between "wide" staging and straight up harsh

#

(hi ssr)

unique wind
#

yeah jacking air frequencies to improve spaciousness can only go so far before it sounds weird

haughty girder
#

either way if you're after staging, speakers or just go live concert

#

which is still speakers

molten lotus
#

live concert is pain

haughty girder
#

just further away

unique wind
#

it’s annoying that well made speakers are expensive if you aren’t open to diy

haughty girder
#

Eh

#

depends on your definition of expensive

#

308p aren't bad at all

#

aren't too expensive

unique wind
#

of course as everything does

steel escarp
#

somehow IEMs have better dynamic impact than speakers

unique wind
#

saying budget is relative is a nonstatement

haughty girder
#

you have a larger cone ofc it's gonna take longer to get moving

steel escarp
#

you want to hear bass bouncing back and forward in your room that takes a bit to decay

unique wind
#

you’d be surprised how hard iems hit with subbass if there isn’t a shelf in the mid to upper bass

haughty girder
#

I know

#

that's why an EQ'd moondrop SSR still slaps

steel escarp
#

gaming with a subwoofer is awesome tho

haughty girder
#

even tho stock SSR is annoyingly harsh

unique wind
#

i’m autistic about my headphones but with speakers i’m like haha bass go brrr

#

i use speakers for fun listening not critical listening

haughty girder
#

Same

#

partially cause treating a room costs too much

steel escarp
#

I did room correction and all

molten lotus
#

And I have neighbors so that’s out of the question

haughty girder
#

nearfields don't get affected as much

steel escarp
#

did the perfect triangle

haughty girder
#

damn

steel escarp
#

speakers still sounded not that great in terms of imaging

haughty girder
#

it's a lot harder to get precise imaging out of speakers

unique wind
#

i should just buy variations, plug them into my utws5. and abandon headphones

#

i don’t wanna kill any more amps with static discharge when i touch the cables

steel escarp
#

I can only find newer measurements

#

I moved my sub and its peak was mostly fixed

#

the 100-160Hz dip tho

haughty girder
#

also takes up too much space

steel escarp
#

my small room fucked up the bass

unique wind
#

i think i’ll have to lie to schiit

#

i’ll just be like idk why it broke i just bought it three weeks ago

haughty girder
#

Lmao

steel escarp
#

didnt sharur make a video complaining about the audible distortion from the variations caused by the balanced armature drivers

unique wind
#

if i admit i static discharged into it they’ll probably make me pay for repair

unique wind
steel escarp
#

I bought the variations once

unique wind
#

but ive read that you’d need 4 different drivers per iem to get perfectly smooth frequency response

steel escarp
#

the fit in my ears was actually painful

unique wind
#

that was my experience with arias

steel escarp
#

bass was too much imo

unique wind
#

they dug into my ears

#

and the edges were sharp

steel escarp
#

the variations did not work with my ear shell

#

wait ear shell is not a word in english, I am literally translating it

#

auricle

unique wind
#

at high volumes

#

i replied to the wrong comment

unique wind
steel escarp
#

its okay

unique wind
#

i kinda prefer the way inverted polarity sounds with my eqd sundaras honestly

steel escarp
#

Quaad

#

are you still rocking lcd-x?

molten lotus
#

I never had lcd-x?

unique wind
#

thank god

haughty girder
#

LMAO

#

^

steel escarp
#

oh it was a different Quaad then

unique wind
#

it’s such a terrible headphone stock

#

it requires extreme eq

haughty girder
#

tbh anyone who owns an audeze LCD series

#

respect

molten lotus
#

I have some grados, HD560s, and 600s

haughty girder
#

their neck

#

is probably as thick as an F1 drivers

steel escarp
#

I owned LCD-2 closed for a few days, did the EQ and all

#

but the weight

unique wind
#

at least audeze drivers are usually very low distortion so if you can measure your own pair you could fix them with eq

#

but that’s a shitty business practice

steel escarp
#

audeze drivers are tensioned too loosely

haughty girder
#

that's literally what they were going for with the isine

steel escarp
#

shit treble but better bass resonance

haughty girder
#

just eq it

unique wind
#

just eq it genuinely works with many products but the issue is very few people can measure their own pairs to see if there’s any unit variance

steel escarp
#

audeze unit variation too big to copy random EQ from the internet

unique wind
#

i think i remember reading that you can request to see the frequency response measurements of your specific headphones if you buy lcd-x or any higher model

#

but not with the 2 series

#

which is ironic because the 2 series is better

zenith spear
#

Does this mean I plug in my headphones into the volume out and plug that into my PC?

copper owl
#

Ooo the pc37x just got delivered linusPerfect

unique wind
runic goblet
#

A question about ear buds.
Im thinking about
-freebuds pro 2 (160€)
-oneplus buds pro 2 (155€)
-galaxy buds 2 pro (150€)
Freebuds and oneplus buds do have lhdc whereas the samsung have a samsung unique code used with samsung phones (which i dont have) so probably loosing some of the audio quality there.

Using an android phone.
Does someone have a good expertise on those 3?

molten lotus
#

don't know the freebuds well but pretty sure galaxy is the bet out of all of those

#

airpods pro 2 is also a good choice

#

better than those

unique wind
#

airpods have better nc but not better sound than galaxy buds

#

if youre using an android phone grab the galaxy buds2 pro

runic goblet
unique wind
#

that is a completely fair assessment

molten lotus
#

but sound?

#

sound is very ahead of android alternatives

steel escarp
#

I need to find a hd800s for 500 euro somewhere

unique wind
#

galaxy buds2 pro have better treble tuning imo

runic goblet
molten lotus
steel escarp
#

its not worth more than that

unique wind
#

bluetooth codec isnt very relevant for mobile

runic goblet
unique wind
#

pick what you think is best

steel escarp
#

why the fuck does ifi not sell 1.5m long usb cables

unique wind
#

get one from a diff company

steel escarp
#

when you think about how an usb dac is grounded its kinda sketchy

#

uses usb for ground, not the barrel plug

unique wind
#

rub your feet on a carpet while wearing socks and then touch your headphone cable

#

youll fry basically any desktop headphone amp

steel escarp
#

doubt

#

you'll charge up a high voltage which is not that bad

unique wind
#

i killed my magnius by doing exactly that but it wasnt on purpose

#

in the past i fried my dbx 286s by touching my mic and static discharging

#

fried one of my aria drivers too

steel escarp
#

was your magnius even grounded

#

did you use 3 pin xlr

#

or rca

#

for interconnect

unique wind
#

it's all xlr

#

and it's plugged into a surge protector

#

static discharging into my headphone cable totally fucked the left channel in my magnius

#

somehow the sundaras are fine

#

they were playing terrible crackling noises after it happened while they were still plugged into the magnius but they seem to be fine

#

my room is extremely dry and carpeted and fabricky everywhere though it's basically a static breeding ground

#

it's very acoustically dead but it kills all my audio equipment : p

steel escarp
#

where can I order fresh hifiman edition xs pads

#

no dekoni knockoff, the real stuff

unique wind
#

you could try looking for ananda earpads you may get more results

#

i dont see any on american amazon

steel escarp
#

maybe I need to contact their support

unique wind
#

theres a few pads on the hifiman product website

steel escarp
#

they dont have ones for xs specifically

unique wind
#

edition x/xs, ananda, arya, and he1000 versions all use the same pad shape

steel escarp
#

they very likely made a small change

#

per headphone

unique wind
#

according to their own website no

#

they update earpads over the years but they dont make unique earpads for each tier of the same shaped headphone

steel escarp
#

when you unplug the IEMs but the high pitched tone is still there Sadge

#

tinnitus caused by liquid in inner ear

lean grove
#

That's not where you're supposed to put liquid grey

steel escarp
#

I have been trying to get it out for 2 weeks now

#

with nasal spray

lean grove
#

...

steel escarp
#

today I learnt that I can also put pressure on my Eustachian tube after spraying nasal spray

#

to get a tiny bit in there

#

never occurredto me I could do that

lean grove
#

Please tell me you're not putting nasal spray in your ear.

steel escarp
#

no

#

in my nose

unique wind
#

afrin nasal spray gave me severe rebound congestion

steel escarp
#

if its not gone after 2 weeks the GP will send me to a specialised doctor

unique wind
#

it was an absolute hell to get my nose over its addiction to it

steel escarp
#

I used it for about 2 weeks now

#

it says everywhere that you cant use it for more than 7 days

#

💀

#

good thing I took a 2 day break in between

#

alright I think I will stop using it

#

and go back to using salt solution

unique wind
#

i would definitely recommend stopping asap

#

if you use it daily for a few months and then try to quit it's absolutely horrible

steel escarp
#

One sec, doing one last spray for good measure

unique wind
#

you get rebound congestion so bad that it genuinely feels like your nose doesnt exist when you try to breathe, there's zero airflow like you have a flat face

#

your head will be full of pressure and pop everytime you swallow

#

your nose will also run like a faucet at random while being fully plugged

steel escarp
#

Damn

unique wind
#

like if you pinch your nostrils closed tightly and try to breathe that's what it feels like

#

if you use it for too many years your nose may never recover

#

my dad has permanently destroyed nasal passages from using it for like 4 years

steel escarp
#

My doctor said he saw a guy using it for half a year

#

It didn't do the guy good

unique wind
#

i definitely dont miss waking up at 3am being completely unable to breathe and having to get out of bed to use afrin before i can sleep again

steel escarp
#

My GP said I could use it for 2 weeks tho

#

Tho everywhere online they say 1 week max

unique wind
#

once a day for about a week is the most id do

#

only doing one nostril would make it easier to come off of after that week

steel escarp
#

Ayo people are placing offers at my cayine iha-6 post

#

Highest bid is 400

#

When I get to 500 I'll sell that mfer

#

I might just buy if I sell my denon ah-d5000

molten lotus
#

im pretty interested in that headphone

#

FR wise it looks great and the build quality looks solid tol

weak rapids
# steel escarp

If the fins on the earcups dont spin i will be thoroughly disappointed

onyx iron
#

What are some good audio interfaces? Im gonna be getting a lewitt 440 pure (not entirely decided) sometime soon, and need a interface for it. I am planning on mostly using it for VO and content creation. Preferably not too expensive.

last turret
#

as a hustle im importing libraries from spotify n soundcloud to rekordblox including beatgrit, tempo and que points, but its hours and hours of tedious repetitive work. Anyone has a way to make rekordbox analyse the tracks correctly instantly and add que points 32 bars before the recognized drop?

thorny tulip
#

I can't plug in single ended headphones into a balanced amp, i get that... But why is XLR dac out to RCA amp in ok? Isn't it doing the same thing?

molten lotus
#

Ask yourself how many signal channels are there in 3 pin xlr and in rca

thorny tulip
haughty girder
haughty girder
#

RCA shares a ground

#

it's equivalent to 3.5mm 3 pole

real wasp
haughty girder
#

what is this set to for you

real wasp
lethal grove
#

Will a cable extension for my Razer Seiren mini affect the sound quality?

lost wigeon
#

would i be crazy to say my dt 990s sound better when i put them over my hoodie

dry stratus
#

Yes and no

#

Less tinnitus simulator-ish sound at least

lost wigeon
#

real

molten lotus
tawdry remnant
#

I got a pair of Sony MDR-7506's they sound great, but they are really far form being comfortable. Could you guys recommend any studio monitors that are actually comfortable.

weak rapids
#

Ayo Klaus whats your thoughts on the 900 and 700 pro x

molten lotus
#

i haven't tried the 900 but 700 was just unnecessary

molten lotus
#

Does anyone know what the best headphones under 200 are? Looking for something to go outside and listen to music with

#

Preferably not AirPods

#

n700nc m2

unique wind
#

wireless headphones? AKG N700NC M2

#

wired akg k371 or sennheiser hd560s

molten lotus
#

he said outside

#

so definitely not hd560s

sinful niche
#

never used wireless buds, but ill open these after theyve been sitting in the drawer for years

weak rapids
#

“Pure bass”
Aka little detail

sinful niche
#

yeah they done have any water protection or noise cancellation, so they were totally overpriced for what they are

#

granted i was given them

dry stratus
#

“Pure bass”
Marketing bs filter activated: unpure muddy bass

placid geyser
#

The water was so dirty after cleaning these

molten lotus
#

mate

#

foam + water = rot

#

dry those quickly

placid geyser
#

Yes

#

Working on that

unique wind
#

you had some serious gamer grease on those

placid geyser
#

Cleaned them so i can sell it

placid geyser
#

Was worse irl

molten lotus
#

I’m sorry it was worse before? After only 3 years?

weak rapids
#

I would never clean earpads

#

Just buy new ones

#

Also you gotta show a pic of the water

glossy shore
#

rate my audio setup

#

jokes asside the old cd drives that have analogue audio out have pretty good sound

#

what is better they are practically free these days due to their age

lean grove
#

I've seen pictures $100k systems with a PS1 at the center of it.

glossy shore
#

god damn

haughty girder
steel escarp
#

the glue just didnt hold up

placid geyser
#

Well i am selling them

#

But will recommend in the description to replace the pads

placid geyser
weak rapids
#

Damn

vestal meadow
#

warm water gentle soap

#

i would only use it velour/hybrid pads

#

and maybe those perforated ones (these i had to be very careful with) but for sheepskin/pu leather

#

its better not to clean them

unique wind
#

you could use a spray disinfectant instead of soaking them in water

dry stratus
#

and leaf blower with campfire for drying

unique wind
molten lotus
#

Don’t overthink it

vestal meadow
#

but that only removes the layer of gross

#

and not the gross in the foam

#

hence why mild soap and warm water

#

twice on that

#

gently squeeze the soapy water out

#

and then dunk it in coldwater a couple of times

#

and squeeze out the water

#

then just keep it in a cold place

dry stratus
molten lotus
#

Fine
Use a heat gun
Same concept just more heat

vestal meadow
#

hmm

#

just use a flamethrower at this point

molten lotus
#

Lemme know how that goes lol (do not use a heat gun to dry cloth)

vestal meadow
#

fastest way ever

dry stratus
#

wonder if baking clothing on low heat in the oven works

vestal meadow
#

under 100 though

dry stratus
vestal meadow
dry stratus
#

I know

vestal meadow
#

not hamburger units

dry stratus
#

do 240

vestal meadow
dry stratus
#

I am from EU

vestal meadow
#

that would very likely cook

#

the leather

#

and the foam should become a total mess

dry stratus
vestal meadow
dry stratus
#

do it to your most expensive piece of clothing

vestal meadow
#

is this like a gas lighting day or something

dry stratus
#

no

unique wind
#

put the earpad in a pizza oven at 900F for 10 minutes

molten lotus
#

That’s not what gaslighting is

#

Unless you mean a gaslit oven
Or coal brick
I’m thinking about pizza

dry stratus
#

doesn't use gas

#

just use electric oven

vestal meadow
#

only have eletric

#

so

#

yes

#

shall def try

molten lotus
#

I think that would be a pair of shoes for me
Or my work jacket

dry stratus
#

bake your 1100$ shoes

molten lotus
#

KEKW nothing that crazy

molten lotus
#

Much lower lmao

#

500 on shoes y’all wild

dry stratus
molten lotus
#

Hell naw

#

I burn through shoes so quickly it’s a total waste

dry stratus
#

200$ shirt, 400$ coat, 480$ shoes, 260$ pants, etc

molten lotus
#

At one point I was going through a pair of running shoes every 2 months, work boots ever 6, and daily shoes ever 6

#

I move a lot KEKW

dry stratus
#

discord user = no life

vestal meadow
placid geyser
vestal meadow
#

can one atleast have an almost life

vestal meadow
dry stratus
molten lotus
vestal meadow
dry stratus
molten lotus
#

Hell naw
That shit’s expensive

dry stratus
molten lotus
#

I don’t have the legs for that

placid geyser
dry stratus
vestal meadow
dry stratus
placid geyser
#

i'll take my chances

unique wind
placid geyser
#

wow

#

now using it i can finally listen to my keyboard clicking

#

was basically not hearable with my dt 770

#

only thing i would change if possible is that the cable is coiled

placid geyser
unique wind
#

no way jose

unique wind
#

i looked up the frequency response earlier after you sent the message and yeah they have no bass

#

extremely ironic

#

they have a massive dropoff in the bass

sinful niche
#

I regret opening them to try, could have sold them for a few bucks

molten lotus
#

"pure bass"

#

lmao

sinful niche
#

This is the headphones I’m used to listening to at home, and they sound pretty good

#

I don’t need anything insane, but those are more than good enough for when I’m home

steel escarp
#

I was considering selling my denon ah-d5000

#

but I found an EQ profile online that makes it sound really nice

#

and actually listenable

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it has good technicalities already

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now its pretty based for a closed back

placid geyser
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man now listening to the sennheisers for a little while

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WOW

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then i can definitely tell my dt 770's don't come close

molten lotus
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Which sennies?

placid geyser
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650

tepid torrent
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Ofc the 650 smashes it

placid geyser
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ok, i just said i can now tell it is relatively bad and then you say the exact same thing

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guiltyspark was right

molten lotus
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Bro the DT770 is not a good headphone

unique wind
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better than 1266

tepid torrent
molten lotus
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Ofc the 650 smashes it

tepid torrent
versed urchin
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This belongs here

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I’m an audiophile now

median yarrow
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Does anyone know of a decent mic, preferably something well known So can be purchased from a bestbuy, a Mic that is decent with noise cancelling? I have someone in my room talking, and would like to supress all that noice, and am just looking for a easy way to do it. Right now thinking about Blue Yeti

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haughty girder
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Then ATR2100x + arm

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and put it close to your mouth

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that mic is already pretty decent at rejecting background noise

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haughty girder
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nope, usb C on the back

median yarrow
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Like razer Seiren etc.

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Compared to those how much of an improvement would it be?

haughty girder
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Seiren mini is my usual default recc

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not as good as the ATR2100x at blocking out noise tho

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haughty girder
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two very diff mics, far better than Yeti

median yarrow
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What about Seiren Pro?

haughty girder
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between ATR2100x and Seiren mini, well functionally they'll basically be the same for you

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No.

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Every seiren except the mini is bad

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haughty girder
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the seiren mini was literally accidentally good

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yea

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the other ones all sound like garbage

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haughty girder
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Alright. get a mic arm for it and get it as close to your face as you can

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haughty girder
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then use rtx voice or something similar

haughty girder
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yes

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haughty girder
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that's why you use a boom arm

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closer to your mouth = louder

median yarrow
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Seiren V2 X sounds more louder no?

haughty girder
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as well as increase in Signal Noise Ratio (SNR)

median yarrow
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o

haughty girder
median yarrow
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True

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Does the capsule size not matter as much then?

haughty girder
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Capsule size almost never matters

haughty girder
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not in these use cases anyways

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