audio-tech

[unique wind]

if youre looking for a balanced dac with a remote, bluetooth, and coax in then the smsl d-6 is probably the cheapest one

it has trs output though youd need a pair of trs->xlr adapters

[steel escarp]

I could make adapters

but damn still 200 euros

[ocean pulsar]

on the other hand whats wrong with using the tvs built in volume control?

[steel escarp]

it doesnt work

on the rca out

[unique wind]

balanced shit usually isnt found below 200 sadly

[ocean pulsar]

wait what

do you not have a digital out?

[steel escarp]

I cant plug digital out in my active speakers

[unique wind]

what speakers r u using

[steel escarp]

adam audio t7v

they have rca btw

[unique wind]

grabbed a picture of its ass for reference

[ocean pulsar]

yes thats why you need a dac
but your tv should have a toslink or spdif

[unique wind]

i see it supports non-balanced rca input

would that work with a cheaper single ended bluetooth dac?

[steel escarp]

I honestly dont want to run rca on a 5m cable

to my subwoofer

the tv has a digital audio out

[ocean pulsar]

what outputs does your tv have

[steel escarp]

that looks like in that image

[ocean pulsar]

ok
and the volume control doesnt work for that output?

specifically the orange one

[unique wind]

whenever ive used spdif there was never on-tv volume control

[unique wind]

from what i know it just outputs a flat signal to any dac you plug in

[ocean pulsar]

depends on the dac

it also includes volume info but the dac may ignore it

regardless yea you drive a hard bargain grey, coax spdif, remote, xlr all are significant cost adders

[supple kestrel]

i found an absolute dope website that lets you download straight .flac files from Qobuz without needing to torrent

i put most of the files into spec and they all look legit

[unique wind]

pog

[supple kestrel]

it's great because it rips from a lossless streaming service so you have a much easier time finding songs/singles that has never had a CD (no need for ripping)

[steel escarp]

cant I convert rca to xlr tbh

[ocean pulsar]

maybe cheaper but unlikely

[unique wind]

is yung gravy on qobuz?

[unique wind]

that surprises me

[supple kestrel]

yeah i found a lot of super niche songs that somehow had .flac files

[steel escarp]

topping E50
SMSL D6
hmm there ought to be something cheaper

[supple kestrel]

some of the songs i downloaded are probably older than the .flac extension itself

[unique wind]

a lot of them are probably not actual flac files

just garbage information mixed in to fit the bitrate of a flac file

[unique wind]

if carmon doesnt know of anything cheaper then probably not

he's practically chat gpt in human form

[ocean pulsar]

lol i dont pay attention to new releases tho so maybe

[ocean pulsar]

the boards on aliexpress for 120 dont have remote control capability

[unique wind]

for real

why does topping feel the need to make so many products that perform so similarly

[steel escarp]

idk

I need this simple functionality and am forced to pay 200 for it

man

[white gate]

Because they're cheap to make and sell well

Many of their products are nearly the same thing in a different chassis

[ocean pulsar]

i forget what its called but theres a rule
i think its called the hotel proximity effect

[white gate]

but if people keep buying them they'll keep doing it

[unique wind]

isnt the L70 just an old A90 in a new box

[white gate]

What functionality?

[steel escarp]

coax spdif in
remote control for volume
balanced out
bluetooth optionally

to connect active speakers to my tv

[ocean pulsar]

just to let you know thats not exactly "simple"

[white gate]

Yeah there's a fair bit of complexity there

$200 seems pretty reasonable for that

[steel escarp]

I could run rca

[ocean pulsar]

just do it

itll work great

[steel escarp]

but idk, dont want 5m long rca cables

that go into my sub, and then again from my sub to the speakers

so another 5m

[ocean pulsar]

dont see a problem with that 🤷

[steel escarp]

rca

I hand made 4x 5m long xlr cables

[ocean pulsar]

ive run rca 500 feet 🤷 its fine

[steel escarp]

I want to use them

man

fuck my tv for not letting me control volume of the rca out

I would compromise with rca if it let me

but since I now have to buy a dac anyways

I will give up I guess

all my money will go to the Violectric HPA V222

[unique wind]

fugg that amp dude it costs more than double what your main headphones do

cop the dac for your tv instead

[steel escarp]

I need to upgrade the 800 euro cayin iha-6

because its stage is kinda small

even tho its bigger then the zen can

[ocean pulsar]

https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Converter-Control-Adjustment-Compatible/dp/B08K8MKRLF/
if you just remove xlr you can get down to $30

[steel escarp]

I heard bigger today

better dynamics

[steel escarp]

bass boos on remote 💀

[unique wind]

it's a nice amp yeah but it just doesnt make fiscal sense to spend that much on an amp for edition xs when youre griping over a 200euro dac

[steel escarp]

I like XS more then hd800s

and more than he1000se/arya

[supple kestrel]

im not sure about this, but they do look legit on spec

[unique wind]

surprising

[ornate blaze]

It won’t matter for a subwoofer

And the digi out will be a fixed full volume signal after it’s been converted to analogue so it won’t be suitable

[steel escarp]

why are there barely any reviews on violectric amps

[molten lotus]

why do you need balanced

just use the rca

[steel escarp]

I spent 2 hours soldering xlr cables

I will use xlr

😠

[molten lotus]

you have no physical use for xlr

[unique wind]

very few people know that brand exists, let alone are in the market to buy something from them

[molten lotus]

everyone who I know that has listened to violectric loves them

[steel escarp]

when sennheiser didnt make their own amp yet they featured their hd800 on the violectric

[unique wind]

they look cool

but it's a niche within an already niche hobby

[steel escarp]

german amp

[unique wind]

there might be written reviews

which are usually better than youtube vids anyway

[molten lotus]

mentioning something being german reminds me of the dude who called sennheiser a (word for ww2 germany) company because it's german

[steel escarp]

ignore the watermark

[unique wind]

i dont really care for the styling if i am honest

[steel escarp]

it sounds great

[unique wind]

it reminds a lot of budget class d speaker amps made by fosi and other brands

[molten lotus]

i don't think it looks particularly good

I fucking despise the front panels looking larger look on amp/dacs

why do they do this

I hate it

make it a straight fucking box for the love of god

it isn't like a pro amp/dac that is going to get mounted on a rack

its a fucking home hifi piece of gear

REEEEEEEE

[unique wind]

i dont even want to think about rack mount audio gear

that shit is for millionaires

[molten lotus]

eh

there is pretty cheap stuff

[steel escarp]

bro

it has a clicky volume knob

[unique wind]

dbx 286s is affordable but mine took one static shock through my microphone and died

and they told me id have to pay money if i want it repaired

it was only like 3 months old

[steel escarp]

the audeze mm-500 really sounded bad btw

[molten lotus]

unfortunate

[steel escarp]

no stage, no detail, vocals sounded plasticy

[unique wind]

have you tried the audeze lcd-2 or lcd-2 classic?

[steel escarp]

yeah

the 2 classic

it was nothing special

neiter was the lcd-2 closed and lcd-x

[unique wind]

funniest thing ever is that the lcd 2 closed measures better than the other audezes in that price range

[steel escarp]

lol

[unique wind]

well, closer to the target curve

[steel escarp]

lcd-xc 2021 has decent target adherence

[unique wind]

certainly much better than the open version

id love to try lcd-2 classic though

[steel escarp]

their entire brand just has cope tier headphones

worse price to performance than focal somehow

[unique wind]

what does a headphone with basically no treble gain sound like

[steel escarp]

🤢

[unique wind]

i have no clue

[steel escarp]

it sounds weird af

that paired with the extremely small sound stage the lcd-x has

ultra cope

[unique wind]

definitely

[pliant spindle]

Hello, I'm currently using my Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones with my PC and I would like to use them (mic as well) on discord, but I can only use the headphones mic and audio in tape recorder quality. Can somebody help me with that?

[ocean pulsar]

thats how bluetooth works unfortunately

[pliant spindle]

I can't use the mic when I connect them via aux @ocean pulsar

[unique wind]

i don’t know if you’re able to at all

i think the mic is solely designed for phone calls over bluetooth on your phone

[pliant spindle]

😐

[ocean pulsar]

you might be able to dual pair and run discord on your phone

but it will probably disconnect from the pc audio when you connect

so 🤷
unfortunately bluetooth isnt really built for that stock

[bright harness]

just copped these and i must say the audio quality so far is fire 🔥

[unique wind]

🔥

[lean grove]

It can have a warm characteristic.

This is something you can easily find out with EQ too

[unique wind]

i don’t think i want to self inflict torture

[steel escarp]

@lean grove I listened to a bunch of stuff at the store

wanna know what stood out the most

1200 euros

[lean grove]

You haven't stopped talking about it so yes I saw

[steel escarp]

[unique wind]

my man grey is fantasizing about a little box with knobs and switches

[steel escarp]

bro

this is like half my monthly salary

[unique wind]

👽

[steel escarp]

gotta make good decisions

[unique wind]

yeah stop looking at it

[steel escarp]

nah bro

I am down bad

[unique wind]

nooooo

[steel escarp]

wait this is the wrong edition

[unique wind]

that costs almost as much as a schiit ragnarok dude

which is a 24w (for headphones) amp lmaoooo

but i know metal boxes with clicky volume knobs and heavy switches are tempting

id love to have the money to play with whatever source gear i want

professional knob toucher

[tepid torrent]

Time to rob

Pillage, steal

[steel escarp]

24w is just too much

I saw a bunch of estats just sitting on a shelf without dust cover today, like even the flagship stax 💀

[nova frost]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/quick-look-fiio-ka5-portable-dac-amplifier/

[unique wind]

i think you have the right idea

[unique wind]

get to pillaging

[strong dome]

Hello, I am trying to find a pair of cheap headphones. By doing my own limited research, the best I have found so far are the Logitech G435 ($30) and Logitech G335 ($49) headphones. My parents were taken aback by the HyperX Cloud II headphones, which were $60, so I have to go even cheaper. If you have any other recommendations or if you are leaning one direction, that would be super helpful.

[molten lotus]

are you using a two or three strip 3.5 cable

[haughty girder]

G435 mic is garbage

if you're fine with that, g435 isn't the worst thing you could get...

wait what games

you might as well just get a pair of iems

[strong dome]

what are iems

[haughty girder]

in ear monitors

more commonly known as earbuds (mislabelled)

[strong dome]

valorant, limited minecraft, zoom meetings

[strong dome]

I have really sensitive ears so a lot of headphones make me feel like my ears are going to start exploding so i usually stay away from earbuds but idk

If you have any recommendations I could take a look

@haughty girder

[molten lotus]

honestly quite a bit of quality gap between anything and cloud 2 at that price point

[strong dome]

yeah I know

I really wanted the cloud 2s but I can't buy them

:'(

[pliant spindle]

2

[molten lotus]

yeah 2 strip 3.5 cables wont have a mic channel

[pliant spindle]

Those were the ones included with the headphones

[pliant spindle]

Okay thank you vm

[molten lotus]

so even if the mic works with 3.5 (I am not claiming it does) it will not with that cable

but there is also the chance the mic does not work with the cable either hence why they didn't include a 3 strip 3.5

[strong dome]

what would be better

[haughty girder]

if you could get Cloud ii that'd obv be the most optimal

[steel escarp]

koss ksc75 with mic

https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-koss-ksc75x-on-ear-headphones

best gaming headphone

lmao people on r/headphones really be wondering why their beyerdynamics sound so muddy or lack musicality

dampening

[unique wind]

wonky ass frequency response on almost all of their headphones

[nova frost]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/sacddecoder/files/

[cursive garnet]

what's a great mic to buy that sounds great and crisp

[molten lotus]

Anyone have a spreadsheet for recommendations with alts to blue snowball

[molten lotus]

anything is a better alternative

be it 4$ or 5000$

[molten lotus]

ye but I need a guide

ykno

yeah you know

any who I got a guide

with cheaper options being toner Q9 or fifine k669 or t669

[blazing magnet]

If I wanna buy mic 🎤 and mic stand for my gaming pc. What should I get

[molten lotus]

t669 is a direct upgrade

[molten lotus]

budget?

[molten lotus]

it is

consider mpm1000u too

i never seen the mpm1000u

but I have seen recent recommendations for it

so it must have came into the mic world recently

it just caught mainstream attention more recently

Should I get the mpm1000u

I had the blue snowball when it became mainstream years ago

and never switched off cus I had no reason to

[bitter hollow]

Is your mic no longer adequate?

Blue snowball isn't a great value, but it's not terrible or anything

[blazing magnet]

My budget for the microphone is $300 Australian. I’m basing my budget off the hyper x one being $299 here . So any around that budget .

[molten lotus]

LEWITT LCT 440 PURE is good

hyper x quadcast is hard to compete with

I don't recommend the lewitt

it underperforms quite a lot

it's generally bought for aesthetics over performance

[bitter hollow]

Some people really like how it sounds

Ideally you'd be able to test them, but I don't even know where you'd begin to find that kind of thing

[molten lotus]

all of the earlier mics you mentioned are directly better than it

except snowball

which

toner Q9?

t669

or t669

I don't know of toner q9

yeah okay

same with mpm1000u

t669 is great

razer seiren mini

also personally the lewitt is horrid looking in my opinion

it's all boxy

shaped like a rectangle

i like it's look a lot

[blazing magnet]

Is hyper x quad cast good or nah

[molten lotus]

not really

[blazing magnet]

Fair enough

[molten lotus]

its meh

AKG C414 good maybe?

no idea

mics have a lot of diminish returns, unless you are a singer or a musician barely anything is going to matter

ehhh

something like a fifine will be enough

it's more for recording the akg

no idea I don't know akg mics at all

[molten lotus]

for streaming and voip, just stick to around 50$

[blazing magnet]

I just want good microphone for streaming occasionally and playing games I definitely won’t be singing haha

[molten lotus]

t669, mpm1000u and seiren mini are good options

listen to demos and compare them yourself

btw seiren's non mini version is worse than the mini so avoid that

[bitter hollow]

How is that even remotely close to your budget

That's an actual honest to God studio mic

In what context would you even mention that in the same conversation as a USB microphone

[molten lotus]

uhhh

[bitter hollow]

I mean, the budget is 300 aud

The c414 is what, 1k usd?

[molten lotus]

shhhhhh

don't tell em that

tell em it's good mic

[molten lotus]

ugh tinnitus

[marsh siren]

D:

feelssadgeman

[haughty girder]

Wave 1 is sm better lmao

[molten lotus]

convo died long time ago

[haughty girder]

For the record, Wave 1 is based on a lewitt electret design

[opaque trout]

Any good earbuds/pods (the long ones preffered) that are black and look good? Price around 50$

[dry stratus]

No

Buds suck

[opaque trout]

which ones are buds

[nova wagon]

Has to be wireless?

[opaque trout]

yes

[heady gorge]

hey, which one out of Sony Linkbuds S, Sony WF-1000XM4 and Samsung Buds Pro 2

[opaque trout]

i prefer the long ones

I think its earpods

[nova wagon]

Buds pro 2 for sound quality, xm4 for best anc

[heady gorge]

and the linkbuds s? I like that they are small and super light

the xm4 seem a bit bulky

[nova wagon]

They sound like ass, thanks to that open ring driver thing

[heady gorge]

no those are the linkbuds

[nova wagon]

Oh hold one a min

[heady gorge]

the linkbuds s are diff

[nova wagon]

Yep I just realized

One sec

[heady gorge]

alright

[nova wagon]

Looks alright for the cheapest out of the 3 you mentioned

[dry stratus]

Technically this exists

Cheap

[opaque trout]

Flybuds C1 vs airfun air pro 2 vs airfun air s

[dry stratus]

None

[opaque trout]

why

[lean grove]

What's wrong with the ones literally posted right above us

The nekocakes

[opaque trout]

ugly

[lean grove]

Okay they're literally black sticks

[opaque trout]

case

[lean grove]

Get whatever you want man. We can't help you.

[opaque trout]

do you know anything about how air pros 2 sound like

Cause i think they will be better than Flybuds c1

[lean grove]

Airpod pro 2 are one of the best tws

[opaque trout]

Way out of my budget

[lean grove]

Oh you're talking about those off brand ones.

[opaque trout]

ye

Or maybe should i invest little bit more and get airfun air pro 3

[lean grove]

These are all no name brands cashing in on the tws market

I doubt theyre gonna be as good as the nekocakes or anything else moondrop makes.

[opaque trout]

dont moondrop have any earpods without cats or any other useless stuff

[lean grove]

Like there's literally hundreds if not thousands of these cheap brands literally just pumping out crap hoping someone will buy it.

[lean grove]

Check their website dude.

[opaque trout]

Well i watched some reviews on yt and they say its good

So, soundpeats should be fine?

Is air3 deluxe any good? Saw them as airpods replacement

[lean grove]

Get whatever you want, man

[molten lotus]

mmm yes today i will ask for audio advice and ignore every advice

[frigid adder]

So the nova pro are not good. Are there any good wireless headphones then? I want to use them for music(anime and soundtracks), gaming(I have a desktop mic so no mic needed)
I have the sennheiser 560s,Nari Ultimate, QC35. But I just can’t deal with the cable anymore.

[lean grove]

Audeze maxwell

[haughty moon]

So I was wondering what is the main difference between pc37x and pc38x ... I know they are supposed to be one of the least atrocious headset but besides that what differentiate them from each other ?

[frigid adder]

Any others?

[lean grove]

It's the best that we got at the moment.

[cursive garnet]

should i get the toner q9 or the GXL2200 or the fifine T669

[restive musk]

question for using a goxlr mini for a dual pc setup, can i run all my audio through my gaming pc? or do i need to run discord spotify through the streaming pc

[supple kestrel]

does this look like it's filled with noise to increase the bitrate? i cant tell, it seems exceptionally grainy

[atomic quartz]

so whats the verdict on swapping pads, i have my akg k371 and my stock pads are really worn out by now, so is it worth the price to go dekoni or could i go with like cheaper brainwavz option?

[lean grove]

Ideally you want to keep the pads as close to stock as reasonable. Pads can heavily change the tuning.

Sometimes companies like dekoni show how their pads change the sound with graphs.

[atomic quartz]

yea i saw that tho i have no clue what that means

from my basic understanding it looked like something like learher and sheepskin are more bass heavy? which im guessing is not what i want for these

[lean grove]

it really depends ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Leather tends to make things more V shaped.

But then if you're using thicker pads vs thinner pads, idk how that'll change things

The type of foam will also change things

[atomic quartz]

well i do like the harman curve the k371 gives, which was why i got them

[dry stratus]

I mean, k371 has fake leather, no?

[atomic quartz]

no clue

[atomic quartz]

i mean i guess you could call it leather, but its very thin and not much padding on the inside, like my ear is touching the wall at the back

[dry stratus]

Just buy he1 or smth

[atomic quartz]

what is he1?

[atomic quartz]

well i was not looking for a new pair of headphones 😄

[dry stratus]

59900€ headphones

[atomic quartz]

well deffinitely not looking for new then xD

[dry stratus]

Do it

[atomic quartz]

even if i sold all i owned i would not be able to

[atomic quartz]

looks nice, but for that price i would not want to even try it

[dry stratus]

Atleast try

[atomic quartz]

nah, think imma stick with just new pads for my k371 xD

[molten lotus]

i believe so

but i am not at all certain, it just seems that way to me

[supple kestrel]

yeah it's a little hard to tell

most of my other flac files are smoothly gradiented

[molten lotus]

get a quality mp3 if you would like and compare it to that

[supple kestrel]

it's quite clear for the cutoff in mp3 files

[molten lotus]

i haven't the slightest idea which of these look more off

[supple kestrel]

heres a flac file that's actually a flac file ripped from qobuz

[supple kestrel]

you see how there's like a hard ceiling on the mp3 file

[molten lotus]

this looks artificially made louder

[supple kestrel]

bro idk man i got it from qobuz

[molten lotus]

I meant the mp3

[ocean pulsar]

this is just 441 khz audio in a 48khz container...

[molten lotus]

not the qobuz

[ocean pulsar]

look at the scales of the graphs its quite different

[supple kestrel]

i got this from NCS' website

i assume the mp3 files they provide are the highest quality possible

[ocean pulsar]

thats a huge assumption

and it also may be true

[supple kestrel]

either way im going to assume it's legitimate

whatever it is what it is

[ocean pulsar]

wait these arent the same tracks

why are you comparing them?

[supple kestrel]

im trying to figure out if the one i sent earlier is real by comparing them to ones im 99% sure are real and mp3s

i am trying to figure out the authenticity of this one

it looks super noisy so i wasnt sure

[ocean pulsar]

"authenticity"

you actually will not be able to tell

[molten lotus]

I do think it looks noisy but it might just be the music

[ocean pulsar]

its mathematically impossible

[supple kestrel]

oOOOOF

[molten lotus]

couldn't say without comparison

[ocean pulsar]

unless your music includes test samples

[supple kestrel]

it's just guitar

[molten lotus]

there is probably post in it

like with everything else

[supple kestrel]

yeah it's definitely been through post

[molten lotus]

oh its anime music

no wonder it looks so fucked up

[supple kestrel]

[molten lotus]

japanese audio engineers are literally the most scuffed audio engineers in the world

I have no fucking idea why they are like this

[supple kestrel]

bro is cooking these poor guys for no reason

[molten lotus]

I will they do a shit job

[supple kestrel]

some of them do pretty good tracks

[molten lotus]

its fucking 2023 stop recording shit that cuts off at 15khz for fucks sake

you download an album pop it in spek

notice half of the fucking instruments are in a different sample rate

[supple kestrel]

i have 55 gigabytes of anime soundtracks

[molten lotus]

I have more

[molten lotus]

most of them are scuffed as fuck

[supple kestrel]

!!!!

alright well if they're all like that i guess i can sleep happy

[molten lotus]

like bro

what the fuck is this

[supple kestrel]

that is highly unlucky most of the waveforms i have for most of my tracks look pretty good

[molten lotus]

the top one sounds fine actually

i over reacted to it

the bottom one is like

the worst recorded thing ive ever heard probably

[supple kestrel]

here's a evangelion soundtrack

recorded in the 90s

[molten lotus]

komm süsser tod is also recorded like shit

vocals of that song are at like 20khz

[supple kestrel]

no shot

[molten lotus]

whereas other instruments cut off at like 18khz

[supple kestrel]

kom susser tod goes so hard

[molten lotus]

and it sounds very obviously different

[molten lotus]

it does but its also recorded terribly

except the vocals

which are crystal clear

[supple kestrel]

it looks fine

[molten lotus]

listen to it and pay attention to the highs of the instruments vs vocals

the instruments are very obviously audibly cut off in treble

where the vocals aren't

[supple kestrel]

thats truly tragic ahahaha

idk why i collect flac files

i use spotify anyways

🗿

[molten lotus]

same considering the difference between quality mp3 and flac is practically inaudible

[unique wind]

lofi source chain

[ocean pulsar]

yea no they arent

[molten lotus]

100% are

[unique wind]

thats just your decayed hearing

[molten lotus]

everything apart from vocals and select few instruments sounds incredibly bitty

[ocean pulsar]

bitty

[unique wind]

mm yes this music sounds like bits

[molten lotus]

grainy

[ocean pulsar]

you sure you arent just listening to a vhs rip lol

[unique wind]

thats what it sounds like through his lofi source chain

[mint prism]

is anyone aware of a way to generate basic wave shapes and then hear what they sound like after adsr modifications?

preferably online

[white gate]

https://www.wavtones.com/functiongenerator.php

[mint prism]

thx

er, seems kinda limited

[molten lotus]

chewbs

[supple kestrel]

what is your go to audio editing software

i used to use audacity but i bought soundforge from magix

[opaque trout]

SoundPEATS Capsule 3 Pro or SoundPEATS Air 3 Pro

[queen oar]

yo does anyone have a fix for the logitech pro x center channel and LFE channel being very quiet and it overall sounding very tinny

[molten lotus]

center?

that's a headphone

[queen oar]

yes?

[molten lotus]

headphones don't have center channel

[queen oar]

they do

surround sound

[molten lotus]

they do not

they only have left/right

surround sound in headphones is a gimmick

there is no additional sound channel apart from l/r in headphones

[queen oar]

there are surrond sound channels

[molten lotus]

no there are not

it is resampled into giving a surround vibe

it isn't surround

it's just dsp to make things sound more 3d

[queen oar]

yes but when you are testing them theyre called channels

[molten lotus]

perhaps logitech's software calls it that

[queen oar]

yes

[molten lotus]

but it consists of l/r channels

there is no surround

[queen oar]

ok that doesnt rlly change anything tho

[molten lotus]

well I need to establish what you are talking about when you say surround channel

do you just mean sounds that come from the center of the headphone?

the center of soundstage?

[queen oar]

so when I test it it says left6 channel, which sounds a bit tinny but still ok, right channel same as left, then center which sounds awful so quiet and extremely tinny

[molten lotus]

just a side effect of surround

you should use stereo instead

[queen oar]

stereo does not work at all

this is the problem

[molten lotus]

what do you mean

[queen oar]

when I use volume up and down it makes a sound, but other than that there is no sound

[molten lotus]

you have no audio from your computer in stereo?

[queen oar]

well I do have audio, but only really distorted music, while the voices and stuff is almost silent

and also volume up/down test on windows works fine

[molten lotus]

I mean you are just describing the regular sound of g pro x

the issues you described are just your headphone's regular state

we can't really help you with much

maybe try eq'ing your headphones

[queen oar]

how do i do that

[molten lotus]

google a tutorial on using equalizer apo

and also what other people's eq apo profiles are for the g pro x

since they can probably do a better job than someone who just started equalizing

[kindred plinth]

What are some good budget headphones with mic

[queen oar]

Do you care about mic quality

and also pc or console?

[molten lotus]

cloud 2

[kindred plinth]

Pc and yea i think

If its decent yea

[queen oar]

cloud 2 are good

but if you care about mic quality I would get headphones (no mic) and then get a razer serien mini or solocast

[kindred plinth]

Any alternatives? Below $50 because here very bad economy

[molten lotus]

well yes but he asked for a headset

[molten lotus]

not from me no

[queen oar]

$50 is like minimum

[kindred plinth]

Getting a separate mic seems very unnecessary for me

[queen oar]

usually

just a lot better mic quality

like that has better quality than really expensive headsets

[kindred plinth]

Blackshark v2 i guess

[molten lotus]

would be ideal since good headphones don't come with mics but I wouldn't recommend it for a budget setup either

[molten lotus]

that's pretty bad

[queen oar]

I would just save your money

[molten lotus]

cloud 2 is 50€ on sale

would be smart to save up

[queen oar]

i would recommend getting cloud 2 like other guy

you could try and find someone on facebook marketplace

or ebay

[kindred plinth]

Wab moondrop

Heard about it

[molten lotus]

those aren't headphones

there are decent in ears with mics if you want which will sound better than any headphone you can get for that much

but they aren't headphones like you asked

[kindred plinth]

I see

[muted mural]

OK I got my pc setup and got Bluetooth so I have to ask

For amazon music HD should I use my hyper cloud 2s or my Samsung galaxy pro buds 2?

[haughty girder]

doesn't matter windows bt codecs are all old and ancient

[muted mural]

My god my earbuds are not playing nice with my pc

It's either that or amazon music on pc is crapping it self

It's put my earbuds as stereo

[molten lotus]

wdym

[noble axle]

i am in pain

[muted mural]

So the pro buds 2 can do 3d audio

But for some reason on my pc they are very glitchy

[noble axle]

i have a 3.5 with a 1/4 inch adapter, i need 4.4

[muted mural]

Audio is really choppy

So the audio in one side cuts out

And pops back up

And it happens at different intervals for both the left and right earbud

[molten lotus]

you receive stereo from your phone as well

not surround

your issue is your audio was likely being set to mono

go into sound devices, there are two playback devices named as your tws

one of them should be stereo, other should be mono

if it doesn't change to mono, go to recording devices and select a recording device different than your mic

[molten lotus]

select stereo only

disable headset completely

[muted mural]

Still getting same problem

The audio keeps stopping in 1 and going to the other side

And keeps switching

[quick shore]

Hello tech tippers , does anyone know if a integrated sound card from a motherboard enable surround sound ? I’ve got an epos 550 and the 7.1 dongle is dead and they don’t make them anymore.
I’ve been told the solution is to get an external sound card. But I’m wondering if there is a way to just use the integrated one

[scarlet girder]

https://www.amazon.ae/gp/product/B087Q7CKQ8/do i need 3/8 to 5/8 adapter to put dis on a boom arm?

[knotty magnet]

Can someone help me pick out a pair of headphones

1: just need headphones under around $500 Australian dollars at most or less (if its worth it)
3: I have a cheaper audio interface which is the UMC22 and a dynamic microphone
4: My room is quiet except i can sometimes hear the tv from upstairs but not much with headphones on.
5: I have only had "gaming" Headphones like the logitech G PRO headset and Rig 800HS wireless
6: I listen to rap, edm and pop
7: over ear Headphones
8. They can be wired, wireless, i dont really care as they are for the computer
9. Probably Black and thats about it

[bleak jasper]

can some give me advice for what speaker i should get for a dual 24" monitor setup

[lean grove]

you want sennheiser hd560s

[lean grove]

you want genelec 8361as

[dapper quartz]

Any big fans here of the Razer Tiamat 7.1 v2 (or original).

Headset was notorious for its configuration to get the bass working but they seem alright once you play with some settings.

Seems like a dead product unfortunately since it seems any crusty to quality 2.0 headphones can just use the windows "Dolby Atmos for Headphones" app (Surprisingly good)

Do you guys think Dolby Atmos outright replaces 5.1/7.1 setups now? Assuming there is enough Dolby Atmos content on the for it?

Or is Dolby Atmos just some "turn the volume louder so it bounces off the walls and feels 3D" virtual surround sound marketing crap

[bleak jasper]

I was thinking a sound bar

[lean grove]

ah idk anything about sound bars good luck 👍

[bleak jasper]

Thx

[queen oar]

what is the best pair of headphones(no mic) for around £50

[haughty girder]

can you do IEMs instead

[queen oar]

what is an IEM

[haughty girder]

in ear monitor also mistakenly called earbuds

[queen oar]

oh no I cant stand earbuds

just opinion

[haughty girder]

Oh

[knotty magnet]

i got recommended them or hd650s or dt880

[lean grove]

they're all good recommendations for first headphones

[knotty magnet]

might just look at more reviews

[lean grove]

you're gonna go insane watching reviews

they're not gonna give you the definitive answer you want. you're gonna be tearing your hair out trying to figure out whats "best" when you dont even know what you like

[knotty magnet]

need try them on and see

theres an audio place near me that might help with the choice

[ornate blaze]

You need to listen to them with music you like to know for sure what you want to buy and keep

[knotty magnet]

yeah will they also be good for games?

[lean grove]

560s is what you want if you want gaming

but yeah the other two will be fine

[knotty magnet]

K702? @lean grove

[lean grove]

those three headphones are the only headphones im gonna tell you to buy.

and the k702 isnt one of them

[knotty magnet]

ok thanks also how can i eq them on my pc

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/FRm9qTmQHKo

[rocky spruce]

How good are those ?

[lean grove]

worth their price

[rocky spruce]

Really good? Is it worth it for gaming?

They look sick as hell ngl

[lean grove]

If you said "I need the best speakers at around $100" I would say get edifiers.

But there's better stuff out there assuming you can pay more

[rocky spruce]

I wont and cant pay more

I just want good speaker for gaming

[lean grove]

Then these are gonna be good for you.

[rocky spruce]

Sound good to me then

[lean grove]

For gaming maybe creative pebbles with the sub might be better.

But edifiers are still good for the money.

[rocky spruce]

Any good speaker will work for me i use shitty logitech one until now

[queen oar]

anyone know a good pair of headphones (no mic) for around £50

[lean grove]

creative aurvana live or koss porta pros

[queen oar]

https://uk.creative.com/p/headphones-headsets/aurvana-se

these ones?

[lean grove]

yeah

[queen oar]

thanks sm

[molten lotus]

best headphones for cannibalism?

[lean grove]

r70x

[bitter hollow]

Imo for cannibalism you should either use iems or just speakers

[lean grove]

Klaus can't afford speakers

[bitter hollow]

Do they not have a phone

Just use those

[unique wind]

klaus can’t stand high fidelity

[lean grove]

any time he hears something hifi he goes into cannibal mode

[bitter hollow]

personally I listen to all music in a 1998 ford taurus as the audio engineers intended

the real challenge is finding out what kind of vehicles engineers and artists daily drive to determine the intended listening experience

[thorn shoal]

Listening to songs in higher end cars is actually a interesting way to get a new taste of music

Hearing songs on the 31 speaker burmeister stereo in the new S-Class is a surreal experience

[bitter hollow]

yeah, car speaker systems can be excellent

I'm jokingly referring to the fact that music is often designed to be listened to on consumer level hardware, though

[thorn shoal]

Oh ofc

[thorn shoal]

The burmeister stereos in Mercedes and mark levinson stereos in Lexus’ are honestly insanely good

For having to compensate for the downsides of being in a car

iPhone microphone obviously does this 0 justice but this stereo really only lacks deeeep sub bass, but can easily push into the 95+DB range with 0 distortion

[molten lotus]

somehow the stock soundsystem in our 2005 buick slaps

shit vibrates the car if you crank it too much

[molten lotus]

iems are overrated for cannibalism

conducts your chewing

[digital trout]

Got a steal of a price on this JBL Quantum 300 headset recently:

Retails for $120 CAD!

And was brand new! Wasn't even open box.

You could say I only paid a "quantum" of the price. 😉

[dry stratus]

I mean, "retails for" and "how much it is worth"
is quite different, especially when you post a headset in a chat with a bunch of people who likely would say it is worth less than 40$ because you can likely get better microphone and better sound for 40$
but idk about JBL...
they've got some alright stuff and some terrible stuff
idk if they boosted the bass to the moon here again or kept it fairly neutral like a bunch of their stuff

[quiet ether]

what cables would plug into this speaker port

having a hard time figuring out

[copper perch]

just see if they screw in and out

[quiet ether]

cant

its not mine currently

[copper perch]

ok

[quiet ether]

im gonna buy them and i wanna know what cables to get

[copper perch]

it looks like there is a cross drilled hole in there

and speakers pretty much always have the same thing

[quiet ether]

ah

[copper perch]

its just speaker wire

google it

[quiet ether]

what would they connect to

[ornate blaze]

An amplified output

[quiet ether]

do i need some special thing for it

[copper perch]

the amp

just an amp

[quiet ether]

ah

[copper perch]

for speakers not guitar

[quiet ether]

and would the amp connect to my pc?

would this work??
https://amzn.eu/d/gPDi6MY

could i just get one of these and connect it to the speaker like that?

[copper perch]

yea
the amp would connect to ur pc with that

[quiet ether]

ah

[copper perch]

also
about the amp

do you know what the power rating of the speaker is

and how many

[quiet ether]

how would they connect to power

or would it be from the amp

[copper perch]

each has two connections
the two brass things and they go to the amp

[quiet ether]

would i be able to use this

[copper perch]

yup

for the amp to pc

the speaker to amp would be the speaker wire

[quiet ether]

im gonna try and and ask if i can buy just one

i cant buy the speakers, the amp and the wire

[copper perch]

what are they for

[quiet ether]

i want some speakers

personal use

[copper perch]

tv or pc or smth else?

[quiet ether]

music

[copper perch]

those are kinda overkill then
unless you wanna blast it

[quiet ether]

im gonna blast it

[copper perch]

oh ok

[quiet ether]

i love loud music

[sour perch]

[copper perch]

easiest thing to do is to find a bundle thing

[quiet ether]

yea

i suppose

i have 40 bucks

those speakers are 25

[copper perch]

is that usd

[quiet ether]

the amps like 11

gbp

£

[copper perch]

thats a fair amount for second hand

[quiet ether]

yea

[copper perch]

you could go a bit smaller

[quiet ether]

meh

[copper perch]

and find a bundle

[quiet ether]

the cheapest and its local

[copper perch]

ok

[quiet ether]

i cant go far

[copper perch]

how much is the cable on amazon

[quiet ether]

like £3

[copper perch]

is there anywhere you can snag some thick copper wire from which is like 4mm diameter?

of the copper obv

[lean star]

Anyone know how I combine audio from PC and PS5 to a single headset without using the controller jack? Is there a USB mixer or something I can buy?

[quiet ether]

no

[covert basin]

@cobalt mountain i did not need a 1/4 inch adapter

My mtrack solo finally came and it takes 3.5mm

[tepid flare]

https://youtu.be/x4O5WVXQXGc

https://youtu.be/anI-9ln_7w4

[wintry mirage]

is 1.25w per headphone driver a lot

2.5 total

rms not peak

[lean grove]

What are you even talking about you sound insane

[wintry mirage]

i was just reading what it says on the spec thing

[molten lotus]

1.25w at what ohms for what headphones

[molten lotus]

my guess is 1.25W RMS is way overkill

i can run my dt770s under a milliwatt if i match the impedance properly

[unique wind]

nah you need 5w per channel minimum

[molten lotus]

hope that's sarcasm

[unique wind]

yeah i actually meant 50w per channel

[molten lotus]

kek

fr though idk why people buy DACs that output tons of power for high impedance headphones

if you actually match the impedance you need basically no power

dacs are pretty standardized

2V generally

my crystal radio can run 4000 ohm headphones no problem, and that's probably microwatts of power

i'm not sure what the drivers in those headphones are, iron something? its an iron disc sitting on top of 2 electromagnets inside a bakelite housing

invented long before the dynamic driver

[lean grove]

Sometimes they like to make it a little higher to improve their SNR numbers.

My dac goes up to 2.5 volts

[unique wind]

hah my laptop does 3v

loser

[molten lotus]

is the hyperx quadcast worth it or is there something better for equal value

[unique wind]

fifine 669 or 683 are better for less money

[stray canopy]

Could anyone help me with a audio issue?

[lean grove]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[stray canopy]

Ok so, my headphones sometimes have very low volume, i think it has something to do with my speakers but can't pinpoint it

is there any hidden settings in windows or something that i'm missing?

Reboot always fixes it but it only happens after using my speakers, constantly rebooting is a bit annoying though

[lean grove]

What do you mean use your speakers. Are you switching the output device in Windows or are you unplugging and plugging them in

[stray canopy]

unplugging 3,5mm jack and turning speakers on

[lean grove]

Hmm. Might be a driver issue. Try reinstalling realtek or whatever your mobo uses.

[stray canopy]

alright ill try that thanks

[fallen mulch]

k361 vs srh440, i couldnt decide

can someone help me

[tight hull]

thoughts on this as a decent usb mic, largely for discord and stuff (not content creation)? https://hyperx.com/products/hyperx-solocast-usb-microphone?variant=41031679312029

[molten lotus]

yeah its decent I dont know much about microphones honestly I use one of these and it's more then enough and it sounds good to me

hang on

[tight hull]

ah k

[molten lotus]

this thing is 9000x better then what im using for sure

also it's pretty cheap most mics are in the $200 CAD price range and it's $64 CAD

the one im using is $20 bucks it looks like lo l

https://ca.hyperx.com/products/hyperx-quadcast-s-usb-microphone?pr_prod_strat=use_description&pr_rec_id=0f94570f0&pr_rec_pid=7015617265824&pr_ref_pid=7015616151712&pr_seq=uniform&variant=41025216479392

this ones a good example its $200 a pop

[tight hull]

Yea the one I’m looking at is just a cut down version without gain slider, multiple pickup patterns, or the fancy vibration isolating mount

[molten lotus]

just get a fifine

or mpm1000u

[foggy scarab]

As promised awhile ago, my headphone collection, only the a40s are still fully intact

Best headphones

For $150 a40s are great

[cobalt sparrow]

Anyone got suggestions for some studio monitor speakers for a small-ish room? I want it to serve triple duty as a music thing, bass amp and drum amp (both are electric). It doesnt need to be loud, considering it's at my desk. Also, would it be good to add some sort of barrier between my desk and the monitors?

Right now im looking at the edifer mr4

Pls ping btw

[haughty girder]

It's alright, I do like the seiren mini more tho

[haughty girder]

k361 for sound, srh440 for reliability (k361 hinge is still a bit scuffed), k361 should be more comfortable due to the thicker pads but srh440 is so much lighter and clamping force is far lower

but that means the pads don't do much

[haughty girder]

what budget

[haughty girder]

they're okay

really bassy

I prefer CAL! SE more than the A40 for bassy headphones

for accurate headphones k361 and k371 are far better

[haughty girder]

cheap and 200cad don't go together

for CAD I wouldn't pay more than about 100 for a usb mic

[tepid torrent]

samson q2u is at that price

[haughty girder]

I actually am not a fan of the Q2u

especially given in Canada, ATR2100x is at that price as well

and so is the elgato Wave 1 which is actually a lewitt electret

[foggy scarab]

That’s fair, I enjoy the quality though, they feel nice too

@haughty girder I noticed you ignored all the broken headsets and the stealth 600s lmfao, how do you feel?

[haughty girder]

I hate turtlebeach with a passion

[foggy scarab]

They were fine

But yeah, not the most comfortable, and not the best sounding, but they worked until they broke

Same point of failure as the other two so far

Always on the left side where you extend or retract

[cobalt sparrow]

Sorry, if it could be around 100 that would be great, however i can go up to 120 max

[frigid adder]

Are there any good wireless headphones? Which aren’t the Audeze Maxell. I can’t deal with cables anymore. I don’t need a mic, but I’ll be using them for some PC gaming. I already have HD560S, QC 35, and Razer Nari ultimate.

[lean grove]

audeze maxwell

[frigid adder]

Any others, those are not for me I feel. I have big ears and I prefer oval ones.

[lean grove]

they're oval

[frigid adder]

Huh, but they are sold out

[bitter hollow]

they're on backorder rn

I think audeze said that they expect to ship out a batch late may

[digital trout]

The general census among reviews is that the bass is neutral like you said. Also, where could one find 50mm drivers with JBL quantum signature sound, leatherette memory foam earcups and Discord certified mic for $40 retail? I would honestly love to know.

[dry stratus]

you wouldn't want the same sound if they are blasting bass with generic mediocre gaming headset mic

when you can get earphones that have better sound than 99% of consumer audio
and microphones that add up to 40$ total that beat the mic of 99% of gaming headset mics

no idea who those reviewers are anyway...

enough reviewers saying raycon has balanced sound, lol

[digital trout]

I'm honestly an advocate of using an external mic over a headset's mic, regardless of said headset mic's quality. That's just simply due to the fact that we cannot change the laws of physics. A small condenser capsule a few mm in diameter will always be far inferior to almost any proper external mic's capsules.

[dry stratus]

haven't heard them tho, and knowing JBL
they could be good...
some of their wireless stuff has pretty balanced sound

different story if it were razer, steelseries, etc

who are entirely aesthetic and zoomer sound

for that EDM, Rap and Dubstep

[digital trout]

Currently using SteelSeries Arctis 1 and Blue Yeti mic on a boom arm.

[dry stratus]

Blue Yeti used to be so insanely overrated

[digital trout]

Interesting you say "used to be". May you elaborate?

[dry stratus]

with razer and hyperx having released
less generic reviewers are recommending yeti (I mean, it is old)
and more seiren and hyperx quadcast

tho people here wouldn't recommend the seiren, most here instead say seiren mini is better

[digital trout]

There are many subjective elements that go into people recommending one mic over the other, however there is also the objective reality that people need to discover any given mic can sound better than it does out of the box if they just take advantage of being able to tweak the sound profile with either native or third-party software, adjust gain control, soundproof their area, use a pop filter, experiment with the proximity of their mouth towards the mic, the angle of the mic itself etc...

[dry stratus]

subjectivity shouldn't be there when recommending audio devices

if it measures like absolute dogshit, there is no saving it

[bitter hollow]

that's fundamentally impossible

audio is by nature subjective

[dry stratus]

audio enjoyment*

not audio quality

[bitter hollow]

no

some people will hate how they sound on a c414

does that make the c414 a bad mic?

[dry stratus]

that's called enjoyment

[digital trout]

By subjectivity, I was referring to the fact that people have different standards and different hearing ranges.

[dry stratus]

audio quality is entirely objective, something being accurate
not heavily distorted, etc

[bitter hollow]

if you don't like how it sounds

then the quality

is bad

[dry stratus]

that's not quality...

that's you not enjoying it

sound reproduction is the quality aspect

you not liking it, or liking overpowering bass

is the enjoyment aspect
even if it is dogshit, you can like dogshit audio over good audio

doesn't mean the audio quality is better

[bitter hollow]

sure

what's the objectively better mic

sm7b or re20

[dry stratus]

not a mic person ¯_(ツ)_/¯

can't talk much about mics

[bitter hollow]

surely, there must be a way to objectively determine it using the super duper objective sound quality metric

[dry stratus]

you can measure it, tho it would be entirely "how close to your actual voice is it" and such

not that I think that's good for all use cases, similar to how perfectly neutral is not best for all music, more so a range it should be within to not have any big issues with the sound

the usual being able to isolate your voice from the background exists too ig
but idk if that's software or hardware, lel
don't look into mics much myself, as I don't speak English so I do not have any use for one

[digital trout]

When it comes to professional recording mics from brands like Shure and whatnot, the user's voice type/vocal range is a determining factor as to whether or not which said mics is "objectively" better for each particular person.

At least, my research over an extended period of time has caused me to realize that.

[dry stratus]

if I were to get a mic
I would honestly just get a lav and something like rode's wireless stuff...
probably good enough

[digital trout]

You can speak your native language in a mic though, can't you? Lol

[dry stratus]

yes, but its useless when you don't have any real life friends
I don't even know anyone outside of health care and family

what happens when you are in health care since 5 years old:

can't speak english, only type (not write, can't hold a pen, lol)

[digital trout]

Well, I hope you get inspiration to improve in speaking English (if you want to of course) and get plenty of opportunities in your personal life to network with other people and make some lasting friendships. 🙂

[lean grove]

I see the phrase "audio is subjective" used all the time to defend bad takes. It's like "yeah well everyone's entitled to their opinion" in an argument. Okay whoop dee doo.

[dry stratus]

certain aspects are, others aren't imo

[bitter hollow]

sure, there are objective portions of audio, and it's entirely possible to determine that you will very much dislike something based off of some objective metrics

[dry stratus]

only annoying thing about measurements is
you can measure if something is terrible, not really if something is actually good
at most usable by being balanced enough

[lean grove]

The thing I stick with is that audio philosophies are subjective. What you think a pair of speakers or headphones should sound like or how they should behave is subjective. In the sense that there's a lot of answers and they're gonna be different for every person.

But once you define those philosophies, you're able to start being objective with them

[digital trout]

^That's a fair analysis.

[dry stratus]

replace "audio" with a word starting with "re" and ending with "gious"
would still work

[lean grove]

And where I think it's most important to not be subjective is where you know the least.
If you have no idea what you want or whose subjective analysis you can trust then you're more than likely gonna wind up with shit.

But if you go with something that has been analyzed to be fitting to this target curve, or has a reasonable amount of sinad, then you're a lot less likely to be led to something terrible.

[lean grove]

Very few people actually look through religions until they find one that fits them. It's almost always indoctrination.

[dry stratus]

I just avoid em

too hard to deal with

[lean grove]

Pascals other wager. Try not to piss off any potential gods just in case.

[dry stratus]

the only god according to our current age: anime girls

[bitter hollow]

is that why moondrop is successful

[dry stratus]

probably

[lean grove]

Honestly it feels like the moondrop waifus are psyops

[dry stratus]

Better than real life at least, lel
They don’t walk around looking like they haven’t slept in decades

[digital trout]

Okay fellas, how about we switch the topic back over to audio? This is the audio tech channel after all. Lol

Just don't want you guys getting in trouble with the mods due to server rules number 3 and 4.

[lean grove]

If it bothers the mods they will let us know

[dry stratus]

Let’s talk about the sound I made a week ago when I accidentally cut my finger with a blender

[lean grove]

Otherwise there's no reason to mini mod when there's no conversations being interrupted

Getting a free waifus with my earbuds is about as enticing and getting a free gallon of diesel fuel.

I have no idea what I'd do with it.

[dry stratus]

Join weebism

Where we just say real humans bad

[lean grove]

I prefer my women with 3 dimensions and more than one personality trait.

[dry stratus]

I prefer mine not looking like men with make up or make up making them look 2-4x their age

Like about all do

Tfw an 18yo with makeup looks older than my 40+ year old mother without, mostly because doesn't look sleep deprived to hell

Anyway, too far off topic, soz

[bitter hollow]

just date your mom

[lean grove]

I'll date your mom, con-pin

[dry stratus]

No

Ew

[lean grove]

I know a hot single mom near me whose kid has campfire Andromedas

I wonder if he's on any of the discords

[dry stratus]

Become her kid

[lean grove]

I don't think it works like that

[dry stratus]

It does

[lean grove]

Maybe in Denmark where you live, con-pin, but not in America

[dry stratus]

Netherlands

[lean grove]

Same thing

[fallen mulch]

thanks, then i'll go for k361

[molten lotus]

just wait for a bit, it's not a purchase you do every day

[molten lotus]

I think you have difficulty understanding the word "like"

like is subjective

quality is not

there are objective parameters to quality in terms of fidelity

[dry stratus]

to me it reads like "If the average person doesn't like a susvara but does like a raycon, it means the raycon is better, because liking = good sound quality, not liking = bad sound quality"

Imma just separate enjoyment and quality... I prefer lacking bass in most cases, but I can't say that's better than neutral/slightly boosted hard slamming clear bass (slam, not rumble, still wouldn't agree rumbling bass is good)

[molten lotus]

give anyone a susvara for an entire day and no one would pick raycons over it

this falls under people's listening abilities being low rather than enjoyment, they just pick whatever is familiar to them

[dry stratus]

I would pick a susvara over anything in most cases
for general use
probably not...

most things require shitty audio hardware, lol

[calm frost]

whats yall opinion on the k612 pro?

[narrow trout]

Imagine expecting a good sound quality from headphones

[dry stratus]

my opinion: its ugly, but haven't heard it

[calm frost]

yeah fair

I was considering getting one

[haughty moon]

K612pro are fairly neutral
Bit elevated treble and it can be painful for some people
Mids are good
Bass and specially sub bass are recessed ... there's bass but it's not a bass head headphone, it's still really good for electronic music

It's a bright and detailed headphone
Imaging is good but there's probably better out there.

[dry stratus]

4x base instead of bass

[haughty moon]

Yeah auto correct stuff

[ornate blaze]

I can't imagine classical music with the low frequencies being cut off

[dry stratus]

I can, because there’s enough classical music that doesn’t even have bass frequencies

Violin and flute for example

Different for orchestral

But for like piano, violin, etc
Meh… not really needed much

[calm frost]

@dry stratus If I'm just listening to music and gaming, for around 400AUD, what would be the best?

[dry stratus]

No idea, but for more info
Wireless or wired fine?

[calm frost]

idm

[dry stratus]

Built in mic needed?

[calm frost]

I can get one later

[dry stratus]

Just asking the questions others would have to ask

[calm frost]

yea

[dry stratus]

Changes the answer a lot

[calm frost]

I might just go for the 612s

and learn a bunch along the way

tysm for your help

[haughty moon]

they are not cut off, they are just recessed a bit ... nothing that some light eq can't fix ... they are quite good for classical music.

[subtle cave]

Hello guys, I am in desperate need of help. I have this speaker home theatre system which i want to shift in my other house. Theres no way for me to remove the wires soo I cut the connector pins which connect to my sony home theatre.

I dont know which wire to buy to extend the wires now. Can someone help?

My speakers say Impedance: 3 ohm, does that matter in the selection of the wire?

[tender frost]

Too bad they require an amp

[haughty moon]

they are fine on a phone

[tender frost]

I used to own a pair and it sounded real bad straight out of my laptop
Got a small dac amp and it sounded so much better afterwards

[haughty moon]

galaxy s8 headphone jack is powerful enough to push them to painful level

[tender frost]

How loud it gets does not mean it is being powered properly

[haughty moon]

it still sounded good

[tender frost]

I could push them to loud on my laptop but going from laptop to amp it sounded just.. better

[haughty moon]

no quality loss vs what I hear on the magni 3+

I haven't tried them in a notherboard headphone jack tho

[tender frost]

Just means your phone is cracked

[haughty moon]

well they used to be good for that yes

[glad creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94SLImnYYRQ