#audio-tech | Linus Tech Tips | Page 36

unique wind Apr 17, 2023, 7:32 PM

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the suspension band doesn’t give me tyler1

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:32 PM

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use a tonegenerator on a website or something

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put that to 60hz

unique wind Apr 17, 2023, 7:32 PM

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it just flattens my hair

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:32 PM

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put multimeter to dc I believe

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go measure

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:33 PM

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dc?

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why are all the images shit

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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i don't know how your multimeter works

unique wind Apr 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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klaus you’re supposed to know how everything works

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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i don't understand electricals a lot, maybe click on the mode button after selecting V

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in the previous image you sent it says AC in the top left of the screen I think

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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oh there is a dc mode

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:34 PM

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yeah

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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do I put it in nano amp or mili amp mode

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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it wouldn't make lots of sense to build a multimeter without it

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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steel escarp do I put it in nano amp or mili amp mode

I believe mili amp should work

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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yall gonna make me fry my amp

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aren't you

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:35 PM

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no

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also I have always measured voltage before, not amps

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I don't know whether that will work or not but do try

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

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there is a voltage mode too

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wait so I connect one end to L+ on the amp input

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and one end on the L+ on the amp output?

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:36 PM

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no

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one probe on L+ the other on ground

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use the 3.5 ends of your xs cable

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it easier than shoving shit into your amp

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measure the output, repeat on the other side

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:37 PM

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so I play a 60Hz tone

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on my pc

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:37 PM

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yes

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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steel escarp do I put it in nano amp or mili amp mode

no amps

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vac

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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vac?

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what does that mean

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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volts with the squiggly

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:38 PM

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its what you chose

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the one to the right of the off option

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:39 PM

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do not measure amps or miliamps that actually could theoretically harm your equipment (tho it wont)

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:40 PM

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2.7mV on left

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1.4mV on right

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:40 PM

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oh yeah

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something is not fine

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did you measure it correctly

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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I have a 60Hz tone playing on my pc

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I put the red on the tip and the black on the ground of the jack

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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yeah something is broken

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rip

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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the one with the black shrink tube is the right jack

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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I don't know if it's possible or not

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but maybe swap the cable

unique wind Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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time to buy a topping L70/E70 stack grey

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:43 PM

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in case it's broken or something

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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no you need to click mode so it says ac on the screen

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:44 PM

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lemme check what my zen can outputs

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it outputs 2mV

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on both channels

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:45 PM

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seems like measurement error

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click mode so it says ac not dc

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:45 PM

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my bad

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I told him to measure in dc

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:46 PM

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oh so I measure in ac

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:46 PM

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yeah sorry

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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0.042V on right

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0.045V on left

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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that sounds more accurate still rather low

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:47 PM

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with my zen can

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0.021V on right

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0.019V on left

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:49 PM

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still seems a bit wrong
are you playing a tone?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:49 PM

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a 60Hz tone

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:50 PM

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ocean pulsar still seems a bit wrong are you playing a tone?

why do you think it is wrong?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:50 PM

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swapping L and R that go into my amp the left channel still has 0.002V less than right

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:50 PM

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molten lotus why do you think it is wrong?

most headphones need a decent bit more than 20mv

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:50 PM

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so I think the output from my dac is not the problem

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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alright
what amp?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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cayin iha-6

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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is it possible that it is 200mv

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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.021v = 21mv

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:51 PM

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steel escarp cayin iha-6

lower the gain to the minimum level and turn up the volume knob

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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my edition xs needs 0.0337V for reasonable listening volume

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:52 PM

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ocean pulsar lower the gain to the minimum level and turn up the volume knob

okidoki

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2.41V on left and right

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:53 PM

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have you measured how many souls of sweatshop workers are trapped in your headphones

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:53 PM

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steel escarp 2.41V on left and right

oh geez not that high

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:53 PM

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...

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imagine I am melting something inside my amp rn

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:53 PM

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just enough to put the volume back to the same amount

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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because barely any resistance in the loop

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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no but youll melt your brain if you plug your headphones in now

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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yeah

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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steel escarp because barely any resistance in the loop

theres no loop

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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i think you will melt your headphones instead

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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true

molten lotus Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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which could be fun you should consider

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:54 PM

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voice coil just goes on fire

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hm but now I am curious about the current

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:55 PM

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cant really measure that with the headphones detached

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:55 PM

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1.5mA left

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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stap

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no

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dont

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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1.7mA right

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why

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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do not measure current without a load

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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am I frying it

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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it could fry your multimeter tho it seems your amp is saving it?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:56 PM

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seems so

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so the voltage indicates no channel imbalance

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well

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0.002 voltage diff between left and right

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the channel imbalance is the most audible around 6kHz for me

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:58 PM

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again make sure you have the gain set to minimum
you are probably hitting the lower limits of your volume knob

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you may even need to turn down the volume on your dac

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:58 PM

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why

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:58 PM

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its an analog volume knob

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:59 PM

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if I turn it all the way down there will be a channel imbalance

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 7:59 PM

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no your dac

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not the amp

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 7:59 PM

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why do I have to adjust volume on my dac's preout

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if I am measuring my amp

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:00 PM

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you are trying to get rid of the imbalance right?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:00 PM

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yes

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or rather I want to know what is causing it

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:00 PM

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99 times out of 100 its the analog volume knob

lean grove Apr 17, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I'm thinking that too

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:01 PM

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my dac has pre out and line out

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I have it set to line out

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so the volume knob is bypassed

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on my dac

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:01 PM

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🤷 thats a fixable problem

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:02 PM

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I want to bypass the volume knob on my dac tho

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my amp handles the volume

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:02 PM

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ok so the gain is at the minimum on the amp
and the volume knob is still relatively low on the amp?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:02 PM

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right now it is

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its at 9 o'clock

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:03 PM

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yea so either turn it down on the dac or turn it down in windows 🤷

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:03 PM

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turn what down

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:03 PM

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the volume

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:04 PM

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until I get the same voltage?

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:04 PM

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sure

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youll have to turn up the amp

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:06 PM

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via windows I took 0.5dB off the right channel

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now the voltage I measure is the same

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hm my amp sounds weird

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maybe I fried it

muted mural Apr 17, 2023, 8:08 PM

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Here's a fun question doe you guys

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:08 PM

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it sounds mushy

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@ocean pulsar your reckon I fried it

muted mural Apr 17, 2023, 8:09 PM

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Crn cca vs hyper cloud 2s (wired) for music and gaming what has best sound Signature ? And what would you say is best for stuff like amazon music ultra HD

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Then for double the fun crn cca vs Samsung galaxy pro buds 2s sound Signature/ soundstaging

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:10 PM

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uhhh

tender frost Apr 17, 2023, 8:10 PM

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ngl the Cloud 2s

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:11 PM

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steel escarp <@126850798666645504> your reckon I fried it

Nah you need to decrease volume on both channels, then increase the volume knob

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:12 PM

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wait or does my iha-6 just sound naturally mushy on its own

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:12 PM

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muted mural Crn cca vs hyper cloud 2s (wired) for music and gaming what has best sound Signa...

Personally prefer the cra+
Don't have the regular cra and my comparison is the mh752 which is a slight upgrade on the cloud 2s (but discontinued)

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:13 PM

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steel escarp wait or does my iha-6 just sound naturally mushy on its own

You need to get up a lot higher on your volume knob the first and last bits the volume knob are not going to work very well

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:13 PM

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I need to set my amps volume knob at 12 o'clock?

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and lower the output from my dac?

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Depends on how worn out it is but usually 10 to 5 is the best region
Also depends on the angle of the pot inside the amp

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:15 PM

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steel escarp I need to set my amps volume knob at 12 o'clock?

No just increase it till there's no imbalance

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Are you 100% sure you lowered the gain on your amp?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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my amp is on its lowest gain setting

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Lower the gain before messing with the dac

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Alr

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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its not the volume knob

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Maybe your dac has a gain setting?

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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it doesnt

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Rip

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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I could just be going insane

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Try a single ended cable rather than balanced on the headphones
That'll drop the voltage a ton

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:19 PM

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dont I need the same voltage for the same volume

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:19 PM

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steel escarp via windows I took 0.5dB off the right channel

Definetly don't do this tho

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:19 PM

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ok

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:20 PM

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steel escarp dont I need the same voltage for the same volume

Yes but you need to lower the voltage to allow you to increase the voltage via the volume knob

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:20 PM

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oh wait

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the single ended output from my iha-6 died

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:21 PM

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It's highly possible that due to that half of your balance output is dead

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:21 PM

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I have no clue how the single ended out died

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the single ended out works fine on my zen can

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:22 PM

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Use that and rma the iha6

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:22 PM

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the single ended on my iha-6 plays really really quetly

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:22 PM

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That's normal

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:22 PM

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wait that is probably the signal from my dac

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I ordered my iha-6 on May 27, 2022

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from aliexpress

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its gonna be a nightmare to RMA

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:24 PM

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I also see it mentioning a high power mode?
Try turning that off

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:25 PM

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it turns bias to class A

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when enabled

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but that doesn't have any effect on the channel imbalance

lean grove Apr 17, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Raises bias*

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The bias will always be class a

unique wind Apr 17, 2023, 8:27 PM

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class A more like class ass

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inefficient asf

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:27 PM

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oh the single ended output also doesnt work with my IEMs

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just making sure its not the cable even tho the cable works with my other amp

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hm

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if I convert the 3 pin xlr to jack it works

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just the inner 6.35mm that doesnt work

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@ocean pulsar

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I tried poking some paperclips in the holes of the 3 pin xlr and connect it to my jack

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that worked

ocean pulsar Apr 17, 2023, 8:33 PM

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Oh dear

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 8:33 PM

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it was quite janky

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I am assuming something is shorting

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lemme do a continuity check

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with the amp powered off but my headphone cable plugged in

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nothing seems to be shorting

livid lark Apr 17, 2023, 10:12 PM

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hi everyone...can someone help me not to loose my mind completely
short problem description - people on discord hear everything I hear on my headphones

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what kind of insanity is this? i used to search something called "stereo mix" and i have disabled it,.,and i though it had fixed it..and it did

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 10:13 PM

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maybe you have a weird input device selected

livid lark Apr 17, 2023, 10:14 PM

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yesteday out of nowhere it started again

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even thouhg almost everything is disabled

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 10:14 PM

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which devices do you have available under your sound settings

livid lark Apr 17, 2023, 10:15 PM

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apsolutely not...i have everything disabled and either default or only one from selection is that

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ok so i have VIA integrated audio chipsed on my Asus MB

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here is a bit more in depth info

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windows is using some kind of crappy drivers saying naturally those are the best drivers - since via has disconected those chipsets and support too

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so no control pannel available at all...other than windows default. it's crap...so I have turned to windows 8 drivers,, and it completely installed everything i need inclusidng sound pannel from VIA too

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which allowed me to disable stereo MIX to fix it first time

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so i had peace of mind...until yesteday out of nowhere

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it started again

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stereo mix is still disabled

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here is the pannel

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 10:18 PM

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oh dear

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are you using the motherboard audio

livid lark Apr 17, 2023, 10:18 PM

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i have literally just pluged in one headset with microphone

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yep

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 10:18 PM

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💀

livid lark Apr 17, 2023, 10:18 PM

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yeah well....

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can't be more basic than this.. should work by default...of course, windows support is useless...and discord has nothing to do with this...as it would be happening with any other program...so it's somewhere in windows/drivers settings

steel escarp Apr 17, 2023, 10:21 PM

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worst case you get a usb dac and completely bypass motherboard stuff

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probably some cheap solutions out there

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dont have the time to dig into your windows drivers as I gotta sleep

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maybe someone else will

livid lark Apr 17, 2023, 10:27 PM

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ok tny anyway - good night

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i'll try to try something untill someone kind who likes the challenge will try to solve this with me

kindred belfry Apr 18, 2023, 2:21 AM

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Is there any way to make low frequencies output in mono

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But not all frequencies

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 2:29 AM

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kindred belfry Is there any way to make low frequencies output in mono

yes but it feels like it would be overly complicated

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you'd want some sort of DSP or filter or whatever, set the high pass to be stereo, and then have a low pass go to some other channel, combine that into mono, and then combine it with the original signal that went to the high pass

kindred belfry Apr 18, 2023, 2:39 AM

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So meaninglessly complicated and I should just get a mono cable for my sub.

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 2:44 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-upset-facepalm-gif-13908817

Tenor

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your sub already has that circuit built into it

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or at least it should

livid rapids Apr 18, 2023, 7:10 AM

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how do i get A1, A2, A3, to be on at the same time?

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currently only A1 is active at one time

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i want them all to be on simultanerously

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nvm

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got it

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im dumb asf

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:05 AM

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lol

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:31 AM

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@molten lotus I am drinking a smoothie with sausages in it, want to try?

livid rapids Apr 18, 2023, 8:31 AM

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the fuck

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:31 AM

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why are you this way

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:32 AM

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calories

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a liter of peas, sausages and olive oil in a blender

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:32 AM

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just eat the sausage

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how do you stomach any of that

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:32 AM

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liquids are easier

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:32 AM

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the thought itself wants to make me projectile vomit

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:33 AM

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200ml of olive oil

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entire glass

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:33 AM

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you will die if you drink this much oil

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:33 AM

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nah

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total fat intake is still less than an american

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:33 AM

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the recommended amount is like at most 4 tablespoons of olive oil a day

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:33 AM

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because calories

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:34 AM

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no because it messes with your blood

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literally

livid rapids Apr 18, 2023, 8:34 AM

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id rather let kanye brain wash me than drink whatever the fuck that is

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:35 AM

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livid rapids id rather let kanye brain wash me than drink whatever the fuck that is

pea soup, sausages, olive oil
put it in a blender
and drink it

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:37 AM

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molten lotus no because it messes with your blood

basically all of the issues mentioned is based on calories, too much fat, etc
neither of which happens with my kind of diet
considering its my only source of fat right now

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:37 AM

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kidney failure is unlinked to your weight

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:38 AM

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molten lotus kidney failure is unlinked to your weight

I am not talking about weight here

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total fat intake is the issue anyway

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Anyway, do you want to take a sip?@molten lotus

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:39 AM

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No

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:39 AM

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why not?

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pretty good

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its just like 2600 calories in 1 liter

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:40 AM

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You too will face retribution one day

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 8:40 AM

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why

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:50 AM

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For your sins

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 9:03 AM

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molten lotus For your sins

which?

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me liking susvara and he6?

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 9:24 AM

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first and foremost involving your diet

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honestly @dry stratus

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why don't you buy calorie powder instead of doing this shit

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 9:26 AM

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molten lotus why don't you buy calorie powder instead of doing this shit

even worse taste, and much higher cost

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 9:26 AM

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mix it with chocolate milk or something

dry stratus Apr 18, 2023, 9:27 AM

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molten lotus mix it with chocolate milk or something

too high sugar, and still disgusting cuz too sweet

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and still too costly

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and lower calories

loud summit Apr 18, 2023, 9:52 AM

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I'm soldering a 3.5mm jack onto a pair of headphones and I was just wonderng about one of the wires as i've found conflicting info online, there is a red, a green and a copper which I'm pretty sure are right, left and ground but theres also a green and copper and I don't know what it's for, does anyone else?

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 10:00 AM

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loud summit I'm soldering a 3.5mm jack onto a pair of headphones and I was just wonderng abo...

there may be two grounds

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if you have a multimeter it will be easy to determine what cable is what

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also going off of colors is a really bad idea, those colors are not very standardized

loud summit Apr 18, 2023, 10:01 AM

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how should i check with a multimeter?

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 10:01 AM

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you know the beeping mode right

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put it on that

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and try 2 wires

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if it beeps, those two are a pair

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also when you are testing a pair, the headphones will also make a bit of a sound because the multimeter is outputting a current

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so that way you can tell which side is left and right

loud summit Apr 18, 2023, 10:02 AM

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yea ok

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thanks

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 10:02 AM

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np

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:03 PM

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magnius modius today pepeD pepeD pepeD pepeD

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:23 PM

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why

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modius is literally modi 3+ but balanced

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and magnius is asgard but 50$ cheaper and worse

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:54 PM

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i think you mean $50 cheaper and better

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:57 PM

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it's a magni 3+

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but balanced

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with borderline unaudible differences

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:57 PM

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bro is so confidently wrong

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:57 PM

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I am not saying it's engineered the same way

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I am saying it literally sounds the same

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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good

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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same with magnius

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it sounds the same exact as modi 3+

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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i bought it to have cheap clean balanced power klaus

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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zen can

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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not to "color" my sound

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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asgard

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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proceeds to list shittier amps

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with less power and more noise

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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400$ for apple dongle

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literally

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:58 PM

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good

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i dont subscribe to your amp/dac coloration pseudoscience

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i wanted 5w of balanced power, that's all

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i have an iemagni for single ended loads already

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:59 PM

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then why a modius

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:59 PM

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balanced dac for balanced amp bozo

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my modi is gonna stay attached to my iemagni

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 12:59 PM

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you will never benefit from it being balanced

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ever

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 12:59 PM

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cope

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i need more power and this was a great way to do it

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it says itll arrive between 10am and 2pm

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maybe i can grab it when i go home for lunch, thatd be nice

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buying an asgard wouldve been a colossal waste of money

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it's more noisy, less efficient, less powerful, costs more, and has the same problem of shitting itself driving low impedance loads

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:02 PM

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its 50$ more

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its class A

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its noisiness is something you wouldn't be able to hear

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:02 PM

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why would i want class a bias

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that's just less efficient and more noisy

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:02 PM

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it sounds better

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:02 PM

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pseudoscience

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:02 PM

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and its a cheap class A

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:03 PM

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unique wind pseudoscience

you are the one shitting yourself over 0.01% differences

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lmao

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:03 PM

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nah the fact that the magnius doesnt shit itself driving low impedance loads is the important part

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it just happens to be balanced

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:04 PM

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magni 3+ and modi 3+ but balanced

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excellent

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also 200$ more

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:04 PM

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stay lofi

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:04 PM

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you are paying for a balanced apple dongle

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and an amplifier no different sounding than it's non balanced counterpart

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:05 PM

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maybe one day klaus will understand that i dont buy amps based on what youtubers say sound good

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i buy what has a lot of clean power

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:05 PM

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I don't either I go out an demo them

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listen to them

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the last audio youtuber I watched was a dude shilling the dt770 solely to make fun of the video

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:06 PM

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i debated a jotunheim but it has the same problem of having lifted distortion driving low impedance headphones

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:06 PM

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jotunheim is good sounding

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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the magnius is literally the best headphone amp on schiit's website full stop

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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I wouldn't pay for it's 1st hand price but it isn't bad

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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unique wind the magnius is literally the best headphone amp on schiit's website full stop

it just measures well

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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it's their best amp

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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it measures well

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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we are discussing boxes that deliver electricity here klaus not instruments

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that's all it is

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it's a power box

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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it isn't

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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fact is magnius is the best one they make

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:07 PM

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if you want neutrality

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you can achieve it for like

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10 fucking dollars

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if you want to spend your money on hifi

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:08 PM

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i wanted more power

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youre having a really hard time understanding that

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 1:08 PM

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magni 3+

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 1:08 PM

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objectives: amp with double or more the power of iemagni that doesnt suffer from lifted distortion driving low impedance headphones

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options: basically only the magnius if i want something from schiit

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conveniently it's their cheapest bigger amp despite being the best one

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and it color matches my setup

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i can leave the modi+iemagni stack setup for iems and have no eq on that source, while dedicating the big stack to the sundara and its eq

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its gonna be sublime

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local man gets attacked on discord for buying a good amplifier

severe hare Apr 18, 2023, 1:44 PM

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then buy and stop writing

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 1:54 PM

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unique wind conveniently it's their cheapest bigger amp despite being the best one

I've heard a lot of people did not like the single ended out on that.

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 2:02 PM

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severe hare then buy and stop writing

i bought it more than a week ago

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 2:02 PM

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lean grove I've heard a lot of people did not like the single ended out on that.

yah it measures really terribly

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they just split off one half of the balanced portion and said fuck it nobody is buying it for the single ended anyway

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 2:04 PM

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That's how a lot of balanced amps with single ended outs work

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If a balanced device has single ended outputs it's usually an afterthought

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 3:02 PM

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lean grove That's how a lot of balanced amps with single ended outs work

oh i figured it was uncommon to have such a bad single out on most balanced amps

ornate blaze Apr 18, 2023, 3:03 PM

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On the Sony power amplifier I have here in my office, the XLR ins are known to go through a "cheap" op amp to convert it back to single ended

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I still used the XLR input because the cable didn't fall out when I used to be messing around behind the equipment rack, ha

dapper quartz Apr 18, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Anybody else here have the Edition XS? It's insane, is it true a genuine upgrade from that goes into the $1000+ range?

inland bobcat Apr 18, 2023, 4:03 PM

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new mic

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 4:29 PM

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cool mic

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 4:53 PM

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my amp making some weird af noises after I measured its current without a load

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time for a burson soloist 3x performance edition

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 4:58 PM

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The cayin iha6 is truly one of the amplifiers of all time

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 4:59 PM

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dapper quartz Anybody else here have the Edition XS? It's insane, is it true a genuine upgrade...

If you like hifiman house sound sure.

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:01 PM

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I dont think the edition xs resembles their house sound that much

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:02 PM

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dapper quartz Anybody else here have the Edition XS? It's insane, is it true a genuine upgrade...

I have it too

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I haven't found anything I enjoyed more yet

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 5:04 PM

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steel escarp I dont think the edition xs resembles their house sound that much

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:04 PM

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lean grove The cayin iha6 is truly one of the amplifiers of all time

I truly don't know what to think of that amp

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you dont include their higher end models

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also I am pretty sure he400se has more shout around 800Hz

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than shown there

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 5:05 PM

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Okay I'm not nitpicking every difference, this is the general trend.

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:06 PM

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I find xs to have more bass and more tamed treble than all their other models

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the he1000se sounds particularly cold

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 5:07 PM

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Okay. I'm not nitpicking differences. This is the general trend.

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:07 PM

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their house sound would be a dip around 2k

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i mean

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its inline

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you are right

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I just find the other headphones they make to all just miss the mark, this one does it right

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hence I'd say it has nothing to do with liking their house sound

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 5:14 PM

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If you don't like that 2k dip and you like more vocal intimacy?

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Also the matter of plan0r sound

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:15 PM

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cant comment on that since I haven't heard a dynamic I rate higher than the dt880

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 5:20 PM

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ive only heard the h400se and sundara but i do not like the 2k dip at all

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i fill it in with eq with both headphones

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:20 PM

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the vocals on he400se sound dead

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it improves a lot with EQ

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 5:21 PM

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although on sundara its only like 2db

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it's 7db on he400se iirc

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:21 PM

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idk I just don't mind it that much on the xs

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I am not that often reminded of its having a bit less presence than it should have

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 5:22 PM

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the issue i have with the dip is that it makes the headphones sound like they cant produce a center image

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:22 PM

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on the xs it sounds like it has no front image

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 5:23 PM

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gotta have the center front vocal stage

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:23 PM

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yeah

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xs is not that

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its more centered, not front centered

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 5:24 PM

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have you tried filling in the dip with eq before?

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:24 PM

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I did

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it was hard to notice

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or rather to make up my mind if it sounded better

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 5:25 PM

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weird

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ive never tried egg shaped hifimans so idk but on the he400se it improved them a shitload

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 5:26 PM

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yeah he400se without EQ was boring

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if I compensate the dip on xs it makes the vocals sound a bit harsh

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adding 3.7dB around 1.8kHz

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 6:16 PM

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will be going to a hifi store soon

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Burson Audio Set Soloist 3X Performance plus Composer 3X Performance
Burson Audio Conductor 3 Performance (Demo)
Feliks-Audio Echo² (B-Stock)
Astell&Kern ACRO CA1000T
Lake People G103-S MkII
Lake People G103-P MkII
Lake People G105 MkII
Lake People Phone-Amp G111 MkII
Lake People Phone-Amp G108
HiFiMAN EF400
FiiO K7
Feliks-Audio EUFORIA EVO
iFi Audio Uno
Violectric HPA V222
Violectric HPA V202
Feliks-Audio Envy Performance
Enleum AMP-23R
Burson Audio Soloist 3X GT
Niimbus US5 Pro
Astell&Kern ACRO CA1000
Chord Electronics Anni
FiiO K5 Pro ESS
Violectric DHA V380²
Violectric DHA V226
iFi Audio xDSD Gryphon
iFi Audio Pro iDSD Signature
Violectric DHA V590²
Trilogy Audio 931i (demo)
Stax SRM-252S
Stax SRM-500T Electrostatic Headphone Amp
Stax SRM-400S Electrostatic Headphone Amp
Burson Playmate 2 V6 Vivid
Feliks-Audio Elise 2021
Rupert Neve Designs RNHP Precision Headphone Amplifier
Feliks-Audio Echo²
Burson Audio Soloist 3X Performance
Burson Audio Conductor 3X Performance
iFi Audio Micro iDSD Signature
Stax SRM-700T Driver unit
Stax SRM-700S Driver unit
Burson Audio Conductor 3X Reference
Burson Audio Conductor 3 Reference
Rupert Neve Designs Fidelice™ Precision Headphone Amplifier
Rupert Neve Designs Fidelice™ Precision Digital-to-Analog Converter
Benchmark Media DAC3 HGC
Benchmark Media DAC3 B
Benchmark HPA4 incl. remote
Stax SRM-D10
Stax SRM-D50 Driver DAC
Viva Audio Egoista STX
Viva Audio Egoista 845
iFi Audio xCAN
Sennheiser HDV 820
Stax SRM-T8000 Driver unit

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any amp I should try on this list

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 6:18 PM

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Feliks audio seems interesting

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 6:19 PM

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tube stuff

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I have no idea if I like burson stuff

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iha-6 to me sounds more spacious than my zen can and has better imaging but it sounds kinda mushy

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 6:52 PM

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ive only used fiio and schiit stuff

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burson stuff looks crazy expensive

ornate blaze Apr 18, 2023, 6:53 PM

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I’d want to try the neve stuff

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 6:54 PM

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unique wind burson stuff looks crazy expensive

their stack rack is cool

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:09 PM

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ferrum is owned by burson?

ornate blaze Apr 18, 2023, 8:10 PM

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He’s referring to the stand

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:10 PM

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ooh

ornate blaze Apr 18, 2023, 8:10 PM

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Not the components

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:10 PM

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that stand is pretty sweet ngl

molten lotus Apr 18, 2023, 8:14 PM

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steel escarp ``` Burson Audio Set Soloist 3X Performance plus Composer 3X Performance Burson ...

id try the violectric stuff, camille was very impressed by them

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particularly the dacs

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Who's this Camille

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 8:15 PM

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someone from sonic getaway

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Never heard of her

steel escarp Apr 18, 2023, 8:16 PM

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she likes hd800s

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all opinions are now invalid

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 8:18 PM

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the loadout

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never gonna use the he400se ever again tho there’s nothing it does better than sundara

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 8:19 PM

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How does your brand new magnius got sploodge on it

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 8:19 PM

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i splooged on it

lean grove Apr 18, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Ah that clears things up thanks

unique wind Apr 18, 2023, 8:20 PM

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nodscat

inland bobcat Apr 18, 2023, 8:25 PM

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white gate Apr 18, 2023, 11:08 PM

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ocean pulsar Apr 18, 2023, 11:45 PM

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what sort of recording setup is that?
camera with a hotshoe mic?

white gate Apr 18, 2023, 11:49 PM

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ocean pulsar what sort of recording setup is that? camera with a hotshoe mic?

Just phone mic

ocean pulsar Apr 18, 2023, 11:49 PM

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impressive

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 12:00 AM

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Phone mics are surprisingly good when they're not being used to carry voices through a few hundred miles of conductive shoelace

frail dove Apr 19, 2023, 2:20 AM

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Is the razer hammerhead good for fps like valo and apecx?

haughty girder Apr 19, 2023, 2:43 AM

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it won't perform any better than IEMs like salnotes zero, tangzu waner, hola, etc.

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let alone stuff like moondrop Ian, truthear zero

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etc

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I'd recommend those instead

kindred belfry Apr 19, 2023, 3:14 AM

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lean grove or at least it should

No I have a stereo cable and I'm only plugging one of them into the single input.

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 3:15 AM

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Show me the back of your subwoofer

kindred belfry Apr 19, 2023, 3:15 AM

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Gimme a sec to find the pic

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I'm not gonna scroll for 5 minutes, here's a new picture.

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_323605ca-e7b2-4dce-b92e-866e03bb1739.jpg

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 3:19 AM

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Interesting

kindred belfry Apr 19, 2023, 3:20 AM

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Maybe I could crimp the ends of the two wires and plug them in directly lmfao

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 3:20 AM

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Use bare speaker wire if you can

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Otherwise try and find a stereo to mono converter for a subwoofer

kindred belfry Apr 19, 2023, 3:20 AM

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Like a 3.5mm to single rca?

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 3:23 AM

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If that fits your bill

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But just look up "stereo to mono converter subwoofer"

kindred belfry Apr 19, 2023, 3:27 AM

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Ok

languid breach Apr 19, 2023, 6:53 AM

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cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 7:12 AM

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white gate

would give 10 years of my life for a system like that

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 8:34 AM

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For bass bins, what is the better option, something from jbl or alto?

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Im between the alto TS315S and the jbl PRX815XLF

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Does anyone have experience with either?

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 9:11 AM

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white gate

Are you following my qobuz playlists? Haha

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 9:41 AM

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undone sapphire For bass bins, what is the better option, something from jbl or alto?

For your house, for your car, for a studio or for a large performance space?

spiral bramble Apr 19, 2023, 10:02 AM

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is the fifine ampligame a6t a good budget mic for videos and stuff?

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 10:55 AM

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ornate blaze For your house, for your car, for a studio or for a large performance space?

Its going to be rented out for shows weddings/parties ect

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 10:55 AM

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Oh then go for whatever is least likely to get smashed/easy to setup if it isn't going to be manned by someone, then

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For rental stuff, robustness and ease of being able to replace the driver would be the priority for me

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 10:56 AM

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Im going to be the one handling it

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I just want to know what has the best sound quality

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 10:57 AM

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I'd have a preference for the JBL because of the brand being recognisable but I'm sure I've heard somewhere that Alto is sometimes rebadged mackie

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you won't know without listening to them

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for rental/portable I'd want the lightest/easiest to work with

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 10:57 AM

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Well then ill buy both and return the ones that sound worse

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 10:58 AM

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and that'd be dictated also by power handling unless you're using lightweight modern class d amps etc

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 10:58 AM

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ornate blaze for rental/portable I'd want the lightest/easiest to work with

They’re about the same

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 10:58 AM

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ornate blaze and that'd be dictated also by power handling unless you're using lightweight mo...

They are powered speakers

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 10:59 AM

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ornate blaze I'd have a preference for the JBL because of the brand being recognisable but I'...

I have both jbl and alto monitors im just wondering whats better for bass bins

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I dont want to rent inferior products to the kind of people that contract us

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 11:10 AM

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JBL midrange products won’t give off a “what have we paid for” look

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General public is going to recognise the branding before anything being sonically incorrect

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 11:17 AM

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Its not general public, we rent out to professional dj’s, bands, that will listen to the sound

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Ill just get 2 of each and swap the inferior ones if necessary

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 11:17 AM

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I can’t help 🙂

undone sapphire Apr 19, 2023, 11:36 AM

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spiral bramble is the fifine ampligame a6t a good budget mic for videos and stuff?

Don’t forget this person mssg ^^

languid breach Apr 19, 2023, 1:00 PM

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molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 2:39 PM

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its regenerative so tuning this thing is fun

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 2:44 PM

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What’s that used for ?

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 2:45 PM

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its a radio

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Oh ok

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Ya tuning that must be fun

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 2:46 PM

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regenerative receivers work on a feedback loop so you have to be close to oscillation for decent sensitivity

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 2:46 PM

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Oof

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 2:46 PM

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they're simple to make though, i made mine on accident

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i was trying ot add an RF preselector to my crystal radio to see what would happen and i made a regen

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only active component is a single 2n2222a transistor

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 2:47 PM

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Hmm

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 2:48 PM

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when this thing is barely oscillating it gets really sensitive, if you demodulate the RF coming out of it with your sound card you'll be surprised

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osTKu6CtrHU

YouTube

Lands

MW DX on a homebrew regen / SDR radio

station: 990 CBW Winnipeg, Manitoba
distance: 655 mi / 1054km

I received this on what was originally a crystal radio that i added a 2n2222a transistor to along with a tuned loop connected to the base making it a regenerative receiver. the audio was being output to my PC's sound card where i could tune stations in around the audio spectrum. This...

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this was just over 1000km

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Holy that looks complicated

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 2:56 PM

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not really

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 2:56 PM

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Hmm

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:04 PM

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molten lotus

normally the transformer on the headphone output isn't needed if you're using something around 4000+ ohms but to use normal headphones / IEMs you need the transformer bc the output impedance is too high

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for this low impedance devices would be harder to drive which definetly challenges the ordinary audiophile's knowlege of picking a headphone amp and headphones lol

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you don't really need much power to drive anything as long as the impedance is matched

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when the radio is acting as a crystal radio you can drive a loudspeaker or high impedance headphones and the power you're extracting from the carrier is well under a milliwatt

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 3:08 PM

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A crystal radio?

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:08 PM

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a radio that doesn't require batteries to operate

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 3:08 PM

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Oh ok

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:09 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

Crystal radio

A crystal radio receiver, also called a crystal set, is a simple radio receiver, popular in the early days of radio. It uses only the power of the received radio signal to produce sound, needing no external power. It is named for its most important component, a crystal detector, originally made from a piece of crystalline mineral such as galena....

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 3:09 PM

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You just leave it outside in the sun and charge it with ✨vibes✨

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 3:09 PM

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This still seem complicated

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:09 PM

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that's originally what this was until i added the transistor

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 3:09 PM

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So it’s a radio to talk to others of one to listen to music?

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:10 PM

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?

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 3:10 PM

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Like radio for music

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:10 PM

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the radio doesn't care what it receives

cyan stump Apr 19, 2023, 3:10 PM

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Ah ok

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:13 PM

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headphone current measured at transformer primary

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 3:37 PM

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if i find a potentiometer i kinda wanna add it to the detector coil to adjust gain

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could also replace the resistor on the transistor base or put it in series with the battery

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ah nice, this thing runs off a tiny solar cell

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watch the ammeter

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it seems to work a bit better on the lower voltage actually

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makes sense bc of how strong the 2 local stations are

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 5:39 PM

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I'm looking at getting an aptx bluetooth receiver to receive audio from a Surface Pro 9 (Intel AX211 Wifi/BT card) and send it over spdif to a dac, has anyone got aptx out of this BT card successfully, or aptx low latency on Windows 11 at all?

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Or has anyone tried LC3 at all?

haughty girder Apr 19, 2023, 5:44 PM

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windows does not have the codecs for low latency, aptx is default

placid geyser Apr 19, 2023, 5:46 PM

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Picked these up for 40 euro

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They sound pretty nice but are very light in weight compared to my missions haha

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The missions are heavywheights

unique wind Apr 19, 2023, 5:47 PM

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obsidian urchin I'm looking at getting an aptx bluetooth receiver to receive audio from a Surfac...

you can use aptx LL and aptx adaptive on windows but it requires third party usb bluetooth transmitters

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intel wifi cards dont support those aptx codecs

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 5:51 PM

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But it will do normal aptx? I assume it won't do aptx hd either then

haughty girder Apr 19, 2023, 6:07 PM

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obsidian urchin But it will do normal aptx? I assume it won't do aptx hd either then

normal aptx yes

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:14 PM

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wtf is aptx

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bluetooth codec

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:19 PM

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Qualcomm proprietary bt audio codec

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I'm thinking https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B5X52XPZ and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WZSHZN2 , then I'll be able to get aptx from my surface's built-in wifi and aptx hd/ll from my docking station.

1Mii B06Pro+ Bluetooth Receiver, Hi-Res Bluetooth 5.1 Wireless Audi...

1Mii B06Pro+ HiFi Bluetooth 5.1 Audio Adapter w/ LDAC, aptX HD & Low Latency aptX Volume Control & LCD Display for Home Stereo AV Receiver/Stereo Amplifier

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Creative BT-W4 Smart Bluetooth 5.2 Audio Transmitter with aptX Adaptive, 24-bit audio, Device-switching Function, and Voice Chat Support for PC / Mac / PS5 / PS4 / Nintendo Switch

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:22 PM

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why not just use a cable for whatever you're doing

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Because the point of bluetooth is to mot use one

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:25 PM

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Pretty much. I'm still going to have a wire available behind my desk, I'm just not really planning on ever using it if I can get a decent enough BT setup.

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BT provides a number of benefits over wired

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:26 PM

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example

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:26 PM

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They're just more practical and less audiophile

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Wireless? Can be paired with a phone or portable device?

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Are you really asking what Bluetooth provides over a wired device?

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:27 PM

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yea bc i prefer wired

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never going wireless

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:29 PM

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obsidian urchin They're just more practical and less audiophile

They aren't really more practical

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:29 PM

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My main want for BT is that I have a number of devices I want to transmit music/calls/movies from, not all of which I really want tethered to my dac all the time.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:29 PM

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do you play any games

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Yea but I have an atmos setup in my livingroom for games I prefer to headphones.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:30 PM

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i like having audio that isn't compressed, doesn't have seconds latency, doesn't require me to charge anything or buy overpriced junk for

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you cannot game with bluetooth

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or call someone while having good quality

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bluetooth will always have around 200ms delay

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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molten lotus or call someone while having good quality

this

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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I only need it for sound, I have a mic at my desk.

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aptx ll's latency is like 30-40ms

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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wireless mics sound so bad, unless they're analog ofc

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so you are still tethered to your desk

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just with your mic

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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I'm tethered to the desk anyways, that's where my amp/dac are

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:31 PM

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also I have no idea who told you the aptx latency is 30-40ms that is completely false

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:32 PM

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obsidian urchin I'm tethered to the desk anyways, that's where my amp/dac are

then what is the benefit of bt?

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:32 PM

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molten lotus also I have no idea who told you the aptx latency is 30-40ms that is completely ...

There's multiple forms of aptx and you can easily google the latency of aptx ll

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:32 PM

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molten lotus i like having audio that isn't compressed, doesn't have seconds latency, doesn't...

and adding to this i don't like draining the battery on my devices even more

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:32 PM

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molten lotus then what is the benefit of bt?

I already answered that

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:33 PM

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molten lotus then what is the benefit of bt?

they joined today, no pfp either so im kinda getting troll vibes

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it's too early to call someone a troll

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but weird motives I don't understand

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:33 PM

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I've been here before, I just leave this server when I'm not talking because I kept getting spam DMs.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:35 PM

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I am trying to look for this data you speak of in terms of latency but I can't find it

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:35 PM

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molten lotus but weird motives I don't understand

I don't get what's so hard to understand. I have multiple devices that I want to be able to connect, I don't want to mess around with cables stretching all around my desk, not to mention that other sources like my TV or phone are physically distant/wildly inconvenient to run a wire to.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:35 PM

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https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fm.media-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FS%2Faplus-seller-content-images-us-east-1%2FATVPDKIKX0DER%2FA2TZE72A6WS7QV%2F4301ff22-310b-489a-8599-f10390a42d27._CR0%2C0%2C300%2C300_PT0_SX300__.jpg&sp=1681929313Tfe6511397b7ae6d30e20f1b0f091d054415e78ad260408b74f5b3368ce7c6811

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this is the only one I found

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in google images

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from some amazon product's supposed "test"

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:37 PM

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I can't help you if you can't use Google.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:37 PM

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I have been trying to google for the past 10 minutes

unique wind Apr 19, 2023, 6:37 PM

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yeah i think LL is like 30-45ms but sounds noticeably worse

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:37 PM

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there is only this thing

unique wind Apr 19, 2023, 6:37 PM

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adaptive is 45-90ms if i remember right

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:37 PM

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which was done by a stupid person

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who measured 150ms on his 3.5 jack

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:38 PM

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unique wind adaptive is 45-90ms if i remember right

it measures around 150ms in the benches I saw

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it is advertised as 90ms though

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:39 PM

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Pretty sure they advertise the optimal times a hardware encoder can get, sw encoders can be slower

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:39 PM

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molten lotus

wait until netham sees the gigachad 0 latency device sprawled across the desk

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reblog if you fucking hate bluetooth

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woah guys shit technology lets gloablize it!!!!

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:40 PM

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It's rather ironic that you two idiots thought I was the troll here

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:40 PM

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how to make a wireless headset with no latency
step 1. analog radio transmitter
step 2. analog radio receiver

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:40 PM

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obsidian urchin It's rather ironic that you two idiots thought I was the troll here

malding

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:41 PM

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molten lotus how to make a wireless headset with no latency step 1. analog radio transmitter ...

or just use 2.4ghz

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frequency doesn't matter, its the modulation

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with analog you don't need to do any complex demodulation, you're just converting RF to AF with a diode

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2.4ghz is more standardized so it's more easier to implement

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with digital crap you have to demodulate and process the signal digitally which adds latency

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:42 PM

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And if analogue you are more likely to have audible interference issues

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:42 PM

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molten lotus 2.4ghz is more standardized so it's more easier to implement

id rather not use a crowded band for WFM

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interesting

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:43 PM

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ornate blaze And if analogue you are more likely to have audible interference issues

not really as long as the SNR is good

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I have no knowledge in radio stuff, could be an interesting project to actually make into reality

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:44 PM

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In the 90s I had analogue wireless headphones which relied on infra red - they were ok for their time

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:44 PM

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i'm talking about RF here

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:44 PM

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None of them really sounded that great because each set was 30 quid or something

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:45 PM

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I had a pair of wireless sennheisers in the mid 2000s that were RF, they had way worse audio quality than even SBC bluetooth.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:45 PM

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what band / modulation / bandwidth?

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worse audio quality or worse transmission quality

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entirely different subjects

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if it was like 10kHz NFM then it makes sense but if you're pushing 200kHz WFM its good

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:47 PM

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The infra red ones were particularly good if the sun pitched in through the windows and spoil the sight of the headphones 😂

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:47 PM

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lol

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:47 PM

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926-928MHz

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:47 PM

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i'm surprised they didn't use 49 or the 443 ISM bands that were common

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:48 PM

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They were Sennheiser RS120 headphones

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:48 PM

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though with 443 i think special rules apply as that's shared with the 70cm amateur band

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:48 PM

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And they were FM

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:48 PM

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ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:49 PM

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Rofl you can get the mk2 version just about still locally https://www.argos.co.uk/product/5662924

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:49 PM

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It looks identical to what I had, but I think I had the original model

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:49 PM

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That seems very overpriced to me

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:50 PM

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My brother worked at a college cafeteria back then and cut all the UPCs off of coke packages back when they had their point system, I got them from that.

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:50 PM

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semi open sennheiser

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any price for it is overpriced

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:50 PM

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Ok thanks for confirming

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:51 PM

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I was never particularly impressed by them

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:51 PM

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The crappy ones I had were some JVC set, the earlier set was made by matsui which was a very cheap brand a retailer called Dixons had

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But for 9 year old me they did work

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:52 PM

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obsidian urchin 926-928MHz

yeah i think that ISM band has multiple "channels" with a fixed bandwidth so you prolly only got 5 - 10kHz worth of audio

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if you modified the receiver for wideband it would be much better

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:53 PM

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They claim '22Hz - 19500Hz frequency response' but I don't recall them actually having that.

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:53 PM

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😂

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:53 PM

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yeah, frequency response

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that says nothing about the modulation or RF bandwidth

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any headphone you find will claim 20hz-20khz

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the driver would response to that frequency

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doesn't mean it will be at audible levels or whether the transmitter will transmit it

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:54 PM

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Oof. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175690293046?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=WPPQ9flDTMu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=1SslETEOQhS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay

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There they are. I won’t buy them to relive the nostalgia lol

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:55 PM

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ik i once used a 70s multiband radio and a modified 49MHz baby monitor as a wireless mic

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it sounded pretty good

obsidian urchin Apr 19, 2023, 6:55 PM

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ornate blaze There they are. I won’t buy them to relive the nostalgia lol

Heh, I very briefly considered grabbing those sennheisers when I saw them again.

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:56 PM

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From memory they sound like the hd515 I have but never want to use

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I.e horrible and bright

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:56 PM

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coax for connecting better antennas and 1/4 audio jack where the mic was

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it looks like a toy

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worked real well though

ornate blaze Apr 19, 2023, 6:57 PM

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It was a toy

lean grove Apr 19, 2023, 6:57 PM

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Where's carmonben he mains rf headphones

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 6:57 PM

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if you feed a hot audio signal it takes awhile for the audio preamp to overload so you can overmodulate the transmitter and get more dynamic range out of it, works that way because its FM

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also increases the signal bandwidth significantly

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i think i can get 60 - 80kHz out of it before it sounds bad

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you can listen to that with your bat buddies

molten lotus Apr 19, 2023, 7:00 PM

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molten lotus ik i once used a 70s multiband radio and a modified 49MHz baby monitor as a wire...

fun thing with this

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take the receiver and drive around neighborhoods

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you WILL find random baby monitors out there on 49 still

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lmao

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same with old cordless phones etc but those are rare now

inland bobcat Apr 19, 2023, 7:11 PM

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short echo Apr 20, 2023, 2:43 AM

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anyone know what these headphones are?

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 2:43 AM

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those look cheap

short echo Apr 20, 2023, 2:44 AM

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i doubt they are, the person who owns them is a big youtuber

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 2:49 AM

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short echo i doubt they are, the person who owns them is a big youtuber

it looks like an M40x with brainwavz pads

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sry got busy with sth else

short echo Apr 20, 2023, 2:49 AM

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lol youre gud

tepid torrent Apr 20, 2023, 7:14 AM

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short echo i doubt they are, the person who owns them is a big youtuber

Doesnt necessarily mean they will have expensive headphones

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Most youtubers just get whatever headphone is popular and common and sticks with those

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because most people just dont care as much about sound

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 11:02 AM

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Dt990, m50x or some steelseries

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That’s what all youtubers seem to use

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 11:03 AM

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short echo anyone know what these headphones are?

That just looks like a 1000x

molten lotus Apr 20, 2023, 11:04 AM

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short echo i doubt they are, the person who owns them is a big youtuber

If I had a dollar for every youtuber who doesn't know shit about audio id be a millionaire

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 11:04 AM

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dry stratus That just looks like a 1000x

The headband

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That pic has the same thicker middle

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Can’t be an m40x, the cups too smooth and different headband shape

slim mason Apr 20, 2023, 11:06 AM

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dry stratus The headband

I think its like xm1 or xm2

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 11:07 AM

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slim mason I think its like xm1 or xm2

The cups seem different

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Xm2 has a small flat surface and less smooth look

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And isn’t entirely black

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Like in the pic

molten lotus Apr 20, 2023, 11:16 AM

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gives me old sony mdr vibes

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but its probably an audio technicha

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https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81TzTAx8weL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg

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looks a lot like this but with the stickers peeled off

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and the headband adjustment on the shortest level so the metal part doesn't show

cobalt sparrow Apr 20, 2023, 11:52 AM

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I remember feeling pain when dankpods went on a podcast to let them try the meze elites and then they put the earcups together and pushed and it made a noise

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 12:39 PM

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molten lotus but its probably an audio technicha

Can’t

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Has an aux cable in it, different headband, much different cup shape, etc

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Thicker on the cable end

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Cups are smooth and rounded

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No logo either

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Or silver ring

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frail dove Apr 20, 2023, 2:14 PM

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Any Suggestion for headsets from Logitech,Steelseries or HyperX

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 2:16 PM

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dry stratus Or silver ring

Id say m10-m40x one of those with brainwavz

lean grove Apr 20, 2023, 2:28 PM

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dry stratus

Looks like an ETA O2

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 2:31 PM

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haughty girder Id say m10-m40x one of those with brainwavz

Too much different

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look at shape

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same thin to thicker forks

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same headband top

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same smooth black cups

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if not xm3 or xm4, I will drink toilet water

lean grove Apr 20, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Might be a Stax lambda

nova wagon Apr 20, 2023, 2:45 PM

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frail dove Any Suggestion for headsets from Logitech,Steelseries or HyperX

cloud 2

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thats it

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 2:50 PM

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frail dove Any Suggestion for headsets from Logitech,Steelseries or HyperX

hyperx cloud 2, c2 wireless, alpha (non s)

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The rest are all garbage

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 2:55 PM

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only cloud II

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no wireless

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 2:56 PM

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c2w is fine

bitter hollow Apr 20, 2023, 4:41 PM

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dry stratus if not xm3 or xm4, I will drink toilet water

The pads look way thicker

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And why the fuck would anyone put aftermarket pads on xm4 and use them with an aux cable as a desktop headphone

frail dove Apr 20, 2023, 5:13 PM

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haughty girder hyperx cloud 2, c2 wireless, alpha (non s)

Oks

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do you recommend any that is out of the choices I made?

bitter hollow Apr 20, 2023, 5:27 PM

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Yes
They did

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 6:46 PM

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dry stratus if not xm3 or xm4, I will drink toilet water

I think you may have to drink water.
My XM3s.

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The headband in the image isn't right, neither are the cups, or pads.

unique wind Apr 20, 2023, 7:07 PM

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trol

ornate blaze Apr 20, 2023, 7:13 PM

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ornate blaze Apr 20, 2023, 7:13 PM

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white gate

Fan of Hans?

weak rapids Apr 20, 2023, 7:18 PM

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dry stratus if not xm3 or xm4, I will drink toilet water

Send a vid drinking toilet water

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 7:23 PM

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So, I've been doing some light research into this so far and not happy with my results.
Anyone with experience with good sources to delve into multisource multizone/multiroom audio setups?

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Ideally looking to tie this all to a set of small tablets as control devices.

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Preferably looking to keep it open / nonproprietary.

lean grove Apr 20, 2023, 8:04 PM

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topaz cypress Preferably looking to keep it open / nonproprietary.

First off you can do it all analog. There are a lot of multi-room amplifiers that get out on the used market from restaurants.

Beyond that, Google Chromecast can be used and it's relatively open. But it's far from seamless.

Roon is the most seamless that I've used, has a great UI, but it's pricey and, again, not open.

And then last thing I know of, and this is the one you probably want, is Logitech squeezebox aka Logitech media server. It's open source, very powerful, it just requires a bit more effort on the back end.

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 8:14 PM

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lean grove First off you can do it all analog. There are a lot of multi-room amplifiers tha...

Thanks for the response.
Looking into some of these.

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I have three primary rooms where I am concerned with audio.
Office, Workout Room, and open Living Room / Dining Room / Kitchen. (Possibly bedroom and/or garage as a another location.)
The spouse and I were thinking the following:

We'd like to be able to pretty seamlessly use our NAS as a source for audio everywhere, or a centralize media storage device (we are mid project of re-ripping all our audio in FLAC and organizing our library). We plan to acquire additional music in just this format.
In the office we want to be able to use either of our desktops as a source for a pair of floor standing. We may want to use something stand alone to control this.
In the workout room we want speakers with a relatively small footprint, so likely either in wall or ceiling. During the winter we do a lot of Zwift on our trainers and watch movies on Netflix while putting on miles. Our TV's speakers are awful (clip something terrible regularly) and we want a much better experience. We probably want this to have access to the central music library as well.
Open big room will most likely be in ceiling and my spouse would use it for background music when she cooks and/or we'd use it when we host people. This only needs to connect to centralized library.
Eventually I want to setup some proper sound treatments and get a high quality set of stereo speakers and would work with consultants to figure out which of the rooms we have is best while maintaining the room's primary functions. This would also be fed off the centralized library.

And then longer term, we plan to have the house redone with radiant heat flooring and heat pumps with individual wall or ceiling cassettes and likely redo lighting with PoE LEDs where we can schedule and change colors (i.e. red shift at night). And would like to control all that with a single device per room.

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We'd ideally network this all on an IoT vlan and keep it separated from other more sensitive traffic.

white gate Apr 20, 2023, 8:46 PM

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ornate blaze Fan of Hans?

Hans?

white gate Apr 20, 2023, 8:46 PM

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topaz cypress So, I've been doing some light research into this so far and not happy with my r...

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My recommendation in this area is that there's a lot of solutions that work with various drawbacks or levels of frustration.
Roon is honestly the best with a LOT of other nice aspects too and whilst it's expensive, you'll probably end up trying other stuff and cycling through, then end up going to roon sooner or later and kicking yourself for not making the jump earlier

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they have a two week free trial

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 8:53 PM

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white gate My recommendation in this area is that there's a lot of solutions that work with...

How do they work without internet?
And, assuming you pay the one time fee, do you have a copy that is yours regardless of what they do in the future?

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I've been living with variable levels of dysfunction on UIs / player libraries for decades, that's probably one of the parts I care about least.

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So, looks like the key is the Nucleus as a component to act as the server as the source with compatible devices.

white gate Apr 20, 2023, 9:03 PM

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topaz cypress How do they work without internet? And, assuming you pay the one time fee, do yo...

Roon requires an internet connection unfortunately

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They have monthly, annual or lifetime license options

white gate Apr 20, 2023, 9:03 PM

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topaz cypress So, looks like the key is the Nucleus as a component to act as the server as the...

The nucleus is optional. You can run the core on any PC you like

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 9:07 PM

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white gate Roon requires an internet connection unfortunately

May be a non-starter for us.
We really do not want to be dependent on internet / cloud hosted type things.
The time that a lot of people lost all ability to control their lights and so on at home due to an AWS outage or whatever is not something we want the displeasure of experiencing.

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That, and we currently have only RCN / Comcast as ISPs, so, not sure how much I want to be subject to their operations either.

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More than I need to.

ornate blaze Apr 20, 2023, 9:51 PM

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Lms is good. You can flash a raspberry pi with something like Volumio to work as a renderer and connect to usb dacs / use the line output etc

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Moode is another good image - that’s what I used for a while as an airplay receiver into my Sony uda-1 amongst other things

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:03 PM

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ornate blaze Lms is good. You can flash a raspberry pi with something like Volumio to work as...

Thank you, multiple of these look really promising for what I think I'm chasing.

ornate blaze Apr 20, 2023, 10:12 PM

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I have chromecast audios in my lounge hifi and in my comms cab for the ceiling speakers which are in my kitchen and bathroom - I’d argue these are not as flexible (nowhere near) but they are mostly used with Spotify anyway

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Moode let’s you use a pi as airplay/Bluetooth receiver which is cool - you log into the web interface to change rendering mode if I remember correctly

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Roon is awesome if you’re happy paying for it.

molten lotus Apr 20, 2023, 10:13 PM

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ornate blaze

treat your room bro

molten lotus Apr 20, 2023, 10:13 PM

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white gate Hans?

zimma

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:14 PM

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ornate blaze Roon is awesome if you’re happy paying for it.

Cost isn't the question so much as not owning it and NEEDING an internet connection for it to work.

ornate blaze Apr 20, 2023, 10:14 PM

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molten lotus treat your room bro

No thank you

ornate blaze Apr 20, 2023, 10:15 PM

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topaz cypress Cost isn't the question so much as not owning it and NEEDING an internet connect...

Ah chromecasts require internet so definitely not an option

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:15 PM

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topaz cypress Cost isn't the question so much as not owning it and NEEDING an internet connect...

Roku!

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:16 PM

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haughty girder Roku!

Hmm

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That may work.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:18 PM

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tbh why not go to like, an office liquidation sale or smth and snag a few Lenovo mini pcs

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:18 PM

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haughty girder tbh why not go to like, an office liquidation sale or smth and snag a few Lenovo...

I've been contemplating that.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:18 PM

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Yea they can be had for quite cheap

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:18 PM

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Might put all the Tiny Mini Micro episodes I've watched to use.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:19 PM

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ahaha

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Yea

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I think that's probably your best bet actually

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:19 PM

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It very well may be.

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I mean, while I plan to have heavier duty machines in some of the rooms because they are machines that have to run heavier applications, I don't really want the power draw of that all the time.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:21 PM

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Hm

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How heavy

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:21 PM

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So I have been floating the idea of Raspberry Pi or tiny machines.

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Well, office has productivity / gaming rigs. So, just do not need to care about those.
The workout room will have something capable of running Zwift and likely GW2 (main MMO the spouse and I play) along with probably Netflix simultaneously.
Not clear if we'll do two machines or one box two rigs. (There will be a his and hers.)

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But not sure if we want to put that heat into the room when we're not using the trainers.

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And the big room doesn't really need anything fancy at all for the kitchen / ambient sound.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:24 PM

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Ever consider like the Intel nuc or AMD minipcs

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:24 PM

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But we're also not trying to copy and have to decentralize the music library.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:24 PM

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they're relatively powerful nowadays but still use mobile chips

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:24 PM

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Yeah, I put them in the same Tiny / Mini / Micro box.

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As I said, early stages of planning.
We recently bought a home and have been figuring out exactly what we want to be able to do where and then there's the "how?" question.

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Some questions I have better answers to than others.

haughty girder Apr 20, 2023, 10:27 PM

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Mmm

topaz cypress Apr 20, 2023, 10:31 PM

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So, for example, the workout room can probably use any halfway decent receiver that allows multiple inputs with different outputs to different zones.
And that would probably work for the living room on the same as well, maybe the bedroom too. If we put speakers in the bedroom (subject to electrical whine testing, my spouse is sensitive and wants that room quiet when she sleeps) I would probably just use my old book shelf speakers.
The office probably would be a better quality stereo receiver with decent floor standing speakers.
The bookshelf speakers could also wind up in the garage. And again, I'm not going for highest fidelity hear (not that I want it to be muddy, because that will piss me off so I won't use it) so again, this could be another zone.

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And then, in about 5-7 years when I save up a nice lump of cash I plan to consult a professional about a pair of Meridian speakers, or something similar, as a proper listening set, and figure out which space can work with those and be treated appropriately.

molten lotus Apr 20, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Does anyone know how to fix clipping audio on a sequence, I want to correct this wave here

dry stratus Apr 20, 2023, 10:54 PM

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bitter hollow And why the fuck would anyone put aftermarket pads on xm4 and use them with an a...

seen enough people do it
only hing that is any close to it anyway, same shape in everything down to the slightly raised lip for the headband
maybe if you go deep enough, but that pic is from a normie originally

white gate Apr 21, 2023, 12:54 AM

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molten lotus zimma

tepid torrent Apr 21, 2023, 1:32 AM

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white gate

a singular tear gently rolled down my cheek

topaz cypress Apr 21, 2023, 2:25 AM

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white gate

My spouse wants us to get that chair.
She liked it a lot when we went to a store to try out office chairs.

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What are the specs on this system?

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(Also, I am amused that this is all recorded on a phone mic, but the clarity of the audio is still pretty great.)

white gate Apr 21, 2023, 3:45 AM

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It's not exactly ideal as an office chair cause of the recline but it's a fantastic lounge chair

white gate Apr 21, 2023, 3:46 AM

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topaz cypress What are the specs on this system?

PS Audio Powerplant P20
Holo RED
Holo May KTE
Holo Serene KTE
Benchmark AHB2
Focal Sopra No 3

GIK acoustic treatment

dry stratus Apr 21, 2023, 7:07 AM

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tfw using EQ on TV Speakers...
at least it doesn't sound like an echo chamber now

cyan crow Apr 21, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Went to a football game for our local club and we won a very important european league game, my apple watch warned me for a consistent noise of 106 dB when we won, may need to invest in some good earplugs. What is a good brand?

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 10:54 AM

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etymotic is a good one

robust flax Apr 21, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Hey, I recently lost my main pc cable to my Headphones (Logitech 433) which let me use my mic attached to the headphones. when i bought the product there was the pc cable which I lost, and another phone cable to connect to a mobile device. I plugged it in from my pc to my headphones but the mic doesnt work. Can anyone help.

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 12:27 PM

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robust flax Hey, I recently lost my main pc cable to my Headphones (Logitech 433) which let ...

can you rephrase that?

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i'm not sure what you're trying to ask

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 1:29 PM

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i recently got a new PC, on my previous pc i had problems with audio on almost all headsets, no matter which USB port i used, the audio just didnt sound right and there was these backround sounds, the sounds were these kind of digital sounding beeps and hums. On my new pc the sound is good overall, but sometimes there is these faint backround noises i cant seem to do anything about, they are most noticable when i change the volume up and down

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I really doubt its headset related, but im gonna return my new headset and try a different one, anyone know what the issue could be and is it even worth caring about?

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Its low enough for my parents not being able to hear it when i asked them to listen, but noticable for me when there is no other noise

topaz cypress Apr 21, 2023, 1:42 PM

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robust flax Hey, I recently lost my main pc cable to my Headphones (Logitech 433) which let ...

To rephrase, are you looking for assistance to find a replacement cable for a Logitech 433?

topaz cypress Apr 21, 2023, 1:54 PM

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cobalt belfry I really doubt its headset related, but im gonna return my new headset and try a...

Do you have any other wired headphones you can try this with?
Even borrow from a friend?
I'd probably want to see if it is "just these" or "all" first.

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 1:55 PM

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topaz cypress Do you have any other wired headphones you can try this with? Even borrow from a...

I did try my brothers Yeah, and it seemed to be no noise, although i only tried them for a few minutes

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 1:56 PM

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can you try those headphones with a different device?

topaz cypress Apr 21, 2023, 1:56 PM

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Okay, and you tried playing with the volume to see if you could reproduce the issue?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 1:57 PM

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cobalt mountain can you try those headphones with a different device?

Yeah on my old pc and they sounded like absolute dogshit like all other headsets do on it, except for razer kraken v2 for some reason

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 1:57 PM

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but did you get the buzz on it?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 1:57 PM

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I tried them on my brothers pc and there was a slight noise, but less than on my pc

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Idk if buzzing is the right Word

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Its like i can hear the other components in the pc

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 1:58 PM

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like a hum?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 1:58 PM

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Like random digital beeping sounds

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Sometimes it stops

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Sometimes its back

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 1:59 PM

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and it only happens on your PC?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 1:59 PM

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Happens on my brothers pc too but even less noticable

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:00 PM

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So, have you been able to try it with a different pair of headphones?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:01 PM

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Im 99% sure its not the actual headphones

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:02 PM

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------^--^---^--
the ^ is a beep, - is nothing
would that be accurate?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:02 PM

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I guess?

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:03 PM

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lol let me try asking it differently

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so it's just a quick beep every now and again?

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 2:03 PM

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onboard audio? sounds like interference to me

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:03 PM

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haughty girder onboard audio? sounds like interference to me

Ive read something about shielding the computer or whatever

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That its a common issue

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Its a prebuilt btw, so dont ask me anything about How its built

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 2:04 PM

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yep

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:04 PM

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tbf i'm a live sound guy, so i'm just trying to troubleshoot it from that perspective, if it's something with the built in audio on the pc, I can't really help ya there

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:05 PM

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haughty girder yep

Sounds familiar?

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 2:05 PM

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yea

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only option to avoid is don't use that output

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get a dongle or smth

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:06 PM

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Is it something that for some reason affects different headsets more than others? Im 100% there was an issue like that on my old pc, but way more severe, but 1 headset actually sounded great

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Out of like 5 different headphones

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:08 PM

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haughty girder get a dongle or smth

A dongle?

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:08 PM

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adapter

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:10 PM

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Alright, my brothers headphones have like a little card built in on the wire , it registers as ”sound card” in the razer software

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Thats a dongle Yeah?

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:10 PM

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do you know what headphones they are?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:11 PM

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Razer blackshark v2

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:13 PM

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cobalt belfry Thats a dongle Yeah?

na it's not a dongle, this is a dongle

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that little card thing is a DAC, it converts digital audio to analog audio

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:14 PM

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haughty girder only option to avoid is don't use that output

this is your best bet

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:15 PM

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Sry im not really a tech guy, dont use that output means What exactly?

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:15 PM

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an output is where audio is outputted

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so that 3.55 jack

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:16 PM

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Its USB

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:17 PM

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did you use a different usb port

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:17 PM

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Both on the front

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Made no difference

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:17 PM

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do the headphones have a 3.55 jack on them?

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:17 PM

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No its USB

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:18 PM

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well then, idk

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you can try and use a different headset that uses a 3.55 jack

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 2:20 PM

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But like, is this a common issue? Its frustrating trying to explain something that is like impossible to explain and noone seems to understand What it could be

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:20 PM

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I'm not a PC audio guy, but i've never had an issue like that

atomic ridge Apr 21, 2023, 2:21 PM

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Well that's a fun surprise added with the product

lean grove Apr 21, 2023, 2:21 PM

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It knows

atomic ridge Apr 21, 2023, 2:24 PM

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It’s supposed to be looking like this right? 3.5 to 2.5, I’m getting both left and right so it works perfectly, but jus making sure

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It can’t go in anymore from wha to know

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:25 PM

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should be fine

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as long as you're getting both L and R it should be fine

atomic ridge Apr 21, 2023, 2:25 PM

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Yep, thank you 🙂

cobalt mountain Apr 21, 2023, 2:25 PM

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np

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if you wanted to be safe, you could throw some gaff tape over it lol

atomic ridge Apr 21, 2023, 2:52 PM

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whats life without some risk?

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no kidding thats a good idea lol

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:16 PM

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@molten lotus thoughts on Violectric HPA V222

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I heard it next to my iha-6 and burson soloist 3x performance

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 3:16 PM

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none

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I have never listened to it

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:16 PM

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it was clean

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and dynamic

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 3:17 PM

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define dynamic

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:17 PM

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my iha-6 killed the hd800s vocals

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it sounded wayyy better on the other 2

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dynamic as in the stuff that is supposed to hit hard hits hard

unique wind Apr 21, 2023, 3:17 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688121419980341282/1048919698034671747/maxwell.gif

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:17 PM

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and the stuff that is supposed to be quiet is quiet

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very clean

unique wind Apr 21, 2023, 3:17 PM

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that would be frequency response which should be linear on any chain

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:18 PM

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the variations in loudness that occur in a passage of music

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 3:18 PM

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pretty nice

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i guess camille was right to be impressed

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:18 PM

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it wasnt a dac

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it was an amp

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 3:18 PM

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unique wind that would be frequency response which should be linear on any chain

it isn't

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:18 PM

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https://www.thomann.de/gb/violectric_hpa_v222.htm?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6NCwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1

Musikhaus Thomann

Violectric HPA V222

Headphone Amplifier Balanced headphone amplifier with 4 output stages, 50 Volts internal operating voltage - ideal for high-impedance headphones, High output power, for headphones with low impedances and magnetostats, +/- 18 dB pre-gain, 3500 mW...

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:19 PM

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molten lotus it isn't

dont engage with him

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 3:19 PM

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michael listening to a good source chain in his life challenge (impossible)

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:19 PM

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good chain fits the headphone

unique wind Apr 21, 2023, 3:19 PM

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good thing i have a substantially better source chain than klaus

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:19 PM

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I might cop Violectric HPA V222

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sounded a bit cleaner than the burson

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I got to try stax at the store I was at

molten lotus Apr 21, 2023, 3:23 PM

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unique wind good thing i have a substantially better source chain than klaus

you have a balanced modi 3+ and magni 3+

unique wind Apr 21, 2023, 3:23 PM

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good thing i have a substantially better source chain than klaus

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 3:23 PM

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Stax SRM-252S and Stax SR-L500MK2

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it sounded pretty good

unique wind Apr 21, 2023, 3:25 PM

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pretty cool looking

lean grove Apr 21, 2023, 3:35 PM

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molten lotus you have a balanced modi 3+ and magni 3+

Not even the magni 3+

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He's got the LaCroix of source gear

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 3:39 PM

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cobalt mountain na it's not a dongle, this is a dongle

wrong. Dongle refers to anything that uses an ic to convert one connector to another. Adapters do the same thing passively (pin to pin like sd and microSD cards)

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Therefore, USB c to 3.5mm are usually dongles with rare exception of say, oneplus where they had a DAC built into the USB C board and connected to certain pins but that's proprietary tech

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 3:40 PM

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atomic ridge no kidding thats a good idea lol

it doesn't matter

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 3:40 PM

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cobalt mountain if you wanted to be safe, you could throw some gaff tape over it lol

safe from what...?

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 3:41 PM

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cobalt belfry But like, is this a common issue? Its frustrating trying to explain something th...

oh you might have a ground loop on the USB port

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Either that or the built in dongle for the headset is garbage

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 3:42 PM

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haughty girder oh you might have a ground loop on the USB port

its that then

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 3:42 PM

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Test with another device

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The fix for a ground loop would be use a powered USB hub as it'll have its own ground rather than shared with another device on the motherboard

cobalt belfry Apr 21, 2023, 3:43 PM

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i actually just got home, with a pair of razer blackshark v2, which has a ''sound card'' built in on the wire and there is no noise

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the volume seems lower than usual though idk why

short geode Apr 21, 2023, 4:22 PM

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Heyo. I've been using Audio-Technica ATH-M40x but the pads are starting to shed so I figured it's a good excuse to get something new. Anyone have a headset $100-$200 they can recommend? Just too many out there 🤯

ocean pulsar Apr 21, 2023, 4:24 PM

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short geode Heyo. I've been using Audio-Technica ATH-M40x but the pads are starting to shed ...

get replacement pads for it?
plenty of folks swear by m40x with replacement pads and it decreases ewaste

ocean pulsar Apr 21, 2023, 4:25 PM

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cobalt belfry i actually just got home, with a pair of razer blackshark v2, which has a ''soun...

i would suspect its just the built in dac to the pc is a bit noisy 🤷
get an apple dongle or cx31993 dongle and you should be able to avoid that

short geode Apr 21, 2023, 4:25 PM

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Yeah I was thinking about getting new pads as well

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 4:43 PM

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ocean pulsar i would suspect its just the built in dac to the pc is a bit noisy 🤷 get an ap...

if I am understanding this right, there's no 3.5mm like hyperx does

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the dongle is directly built into the cable

ocean pulsar Apr 21, 2023, 4:43 PM

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what model?

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 4:43 PM

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short geode Yeah I was thinking about getting new pads as well

honestly, I'd recommend checking out brainwavz hm5 pads. they're not expensive and will save you money

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 4:44 PM

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ocean pulsar what model?

razer kraken of some sort

ocean pulsar Apr 21, 2023, 4:45 PM

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an rgb one will be stuck to what its got
most others will have a 3.5 option

haughty girder Apr 21, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Oh wait

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kraken v2...?

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 4:59 PM

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I need something with the follow for as cheap as possible:
Coax in
2x 3 pin XLR out
Bluetooth
Remote for volume

steel escarp Apr 21, 2023, 5:31 PM

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its for connecting active speakers to my tv