audio-tech

[tepid torrent]

Unless you are trying to run Susvaras

Then apple dongle will be sufficient

[dry stratus]

running stax on apple dongle

[teal fern]

apple dongle?

[dry stratus]

there is a USB-C and lightning version

[tepid torrent]

Usb c version

[tepid torrent]

Yea

Literally best value amp you will ever see

[teal fern]

so pluggin in the hd560s to this and then to my laptop will get me better audio quality?

[tepid torrent]

Yes

[teal fern]

hm

[tepid torrent]

Mobo audio always ass

[teal fern]

ic

[tepid torrent]

The next step up from apple dongle is schiit stack

But you dont need it

HD560s doesnt need fancy sources

[teal fern]

how do i know im buying a genuine apple dongle tho?

this one is from wahbite

[dry stratus]

could buy from apple site

[tepid torrent]

Buy from apple.com then

Or apple store

[teal fern]

ok

whats the quality diff between open and closed headdphones?

is it a personal thing or would one be better suited for gaming?

[dry stratus]

harder to fuck up an open back

most closed are absolute garbage

[tepid torrent]

Open backs are just better than closed

Its much harder to make a decent closed back

Theres really like 4 closed backs worth buying

For the money, iems will be better

[teal fern]

Ok noted

Thank u all for Ur help

I appreciate it

[sinful niche]

Cause I was wanting ANC, long battery, and not too expensive

[scenic stump]

Ah i remember now why i liked 770

[primal fulcrum]

Sonova HD800

[manic hull]

is there anyone here who knows a good ground loop isolator??
i need one for my dj setup cause i want to loop the headphone output from my dj gear back to my pc ^^

[haughty girder]

Wait

explain more clearly...

you have a ground loop in the headphone output of the DJ... mixer?

Does it not have balanced outputs?

[cobalt mountain]

Thinking about picking one of these up for really basic gigs, anyone used one before?
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Flow8--behringer-flow-8-8-input-digital-mixer-with-bluetooth

[ornate blaze]

My experience with pro gear is: behringer has good performance and features, BUT, my advice is buy two of them if you are using them for live shows (if budget allows) - I like their gear but all of it has failed (usually in ways I’ve been able to repair but still)

I’ve used one of their 3 way mono/2 way stereo crossovers, an 8 channel mixer which had usb interface and compressors on 4 mic pre amps and one of the inuke amplifiers

The crossover had dodgy solder joins, the mixer needed a recap of its psu after 24 months, the amp needed a protection relay adding because it emitted a loud crack through the speakers when it first was powered on 😂

[weak rapids]

i find Behringers mid range and expensive stuff is meh for the price, but their cheap stuff is astronomically amazing

[leaden cloak]

that message is from 8 months ago...

[primal fulcrum]

8 month ago... Sonova HD 800...

[bitter hollow]

Imagine hd800 hearing aids

[primal fulcrum]

I thought air pods was all the rage for hearing aids nowadays?

Like the analyze your hearing curve
& let the sound proof blocking microphones
Do the make voices louder thingy?

[bitter hollow]

Nah
No soundstage
Need that imaging for uh
Situational awareness

[primal fulcrum]

instead of hearing aids, maybe Sonova will introduce hearing hiv instead

[covert basin]

can anyone help rq i messed around with my pc and now when i plug my 3.5mm jack into the motherboard i get no audio

i have it inside the green 3.5mm port

but for some reason my front i/o headphone jack works??

[primal fulcrum]

Cool, use the front jack!

[covert basin]

i dont want to

for some reason its set as front speaker when it should be headphones

[molten lotus]

it shouldn't matter

[spring marlin]

Hello folks! Anyone familiar with sound cards? I’m an avid sim racer looking to extract as much out of my speakers as possible and get the best immersive surround sound experience while sim racing. I want the best internal sound card for my setup (that also doesn’t break the bank). I have an asus z590p motherboard currently using the onboard sound. I have a 7.1 setup using a mixture of totem and Polk Audio bookshelf speakers and Klipsch 12” sub. Currently, my pc is connected via hdmi from my Denon avr-4310CI to my 3080 gpu. The 3.5mm jacks on the motherboard are being used for my 3 buttkickers soon to be 5 and everything is controlled using voice meter mixer. What internal sound card would you go with if you’re looking to get better sound? I will be hooking everything up the same way but through the internal sound card.

I also race in vr. Not sure if that makes any difference here.

There’s no issues with the way things sound now but I’d like better. Is it even worth it to get a dedicated sound card?

[frosty ocean]

I bought some Samson Meteor M2s for 30 USD. make fun of me

[molten lotus]

Ever considered switching from speaker to headphones ?
For me, it offers the best immersion.

Especially since you are already using VR

[spring marlin]

Nope, I prefer using speakers. Plus it’s already startling not seeing when my wife or kid walk up on me when I’m in VR. I’d at least like to be able to hear them.

[dreamy bear]

I just got an at2020, at it is EXTREMELYYYY sensitive. The only way it works is if I am right next to it with the volume down. Otherwise it picks up everything. Birds chirping, even me itching my leg, any fixes?

I can call if u need to hear it

[dreamy bear]

No way this mic is gonna work. Anyone have a good mic around 100 dollars that isn't sensitive?

[lean grove]

That's exactly how mics are supposed to be used

If you want a mic to pick up you and only you, and still sound great in an untreated room, then you're gonna have to get something extremely specialized.

[dreamy bear]

how do I fix it then

[lean grove]

You put it in front of you and turn the volume down

[dreamy bear]

I did and it still is extremely sensitive

picking up everything, with the foam thing on it

[lean grove]

Is this through discord?

[dreamy bear]

through discord and listen to this device

[lean grove]

Turn off auto gain on discord

And then beyond that, you just need to make sure that the sensitivity isn't too high.

[dreamy bear]

I use push to talk

[lean grove]

Okay

[dreamy bear]

can u call

[lean grove]

I'm at karaoke

[dreamy bear]

I can literally hear the highway with this mic

[lean grove]

Look into noise gates and audio compressors

[dreamy bear]

like a program?

like voicemeter?

[lean grove]

Voicemeeter is one but I kinda hate it.

You need to start it up every time you wanna talk.

[dreamy bear]

ah

[lean grove]

And virtual audio cables are a massive pain in the dick

OBS is a better choice.

[dreamy bear]

OBS is just for recording no?

I want it to work for when I just talk in games to people and on discord

[lean grove]

Streaming. Now imagine you're streaming to a very select few amount of people.

[dreamy bear]

I am not going to stream nor record

[lean grove]

And instead of twitch, it's just discord and just audio instead of video

See what I'm getting at?

It's got a lot of tools and it's easy to use.

[dreamy bear]

isn't it only for recording and streaming?

[bitter hollow]

If you use voicemeeter it should be a startup program anyways

[lean grove]

You can use it for discord

[lean grove]

Idk if there's better ways but I hated using it. It was genuinely a hassle and it didn't run the background.

[bitter hollow]

You can have it minimize to the tray and it should be pretty automatic

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Guess it's one of those ymmv moments

I won't recommend it. Was too much of a pain for it to be seamless for me.

I'd rather just not sound as good. My friends will cope.

If you dig it, then more power to you.

[dreamy bear]

my voicemeter always says bad driver installed

[bitter hollow]

If you don't set it to auto start then it would be a massive pain in the ass

[dreamy bear]

*ERROR MME Input - Bad Pin Icon: %windir%\system32\mmres.dll,-3012
*ERROR MME Output - Bad Pin Icon: %windir%\system32\mmres.dll,-3010
*ERROR WDM Input - Bad Pin Icon: %windir%\system32\mmres.dll,-3012
*ERROR WDM Output - Bad Pin Icon: %windir%\system32\mmres.dll,-3010

where does voice meter have compressors and gates?

[lean grove]

It's the comp. Dial

And next to that is the gate dial

[dreamy bear]

it's just picking up my typing and clicking

nothing else

my voice too

[molten lotus]

In that case, instead of a soundcard, what you want is a dedicated dac and amp.
Do you have a budget ?

[dreamy bear]

I hear a loud wave noise after I speak

[lean grove]

Then dial it down

[dreamy bear]

it picks up nothing but once it hits the gate it picks up my keys and it has huge bass

[lean grove]

The gate mutes your mic until it hears something loud enough and then it activates

So you wanna have it where it rejects the background but activates when you speak.

Compressor makes sure that loud sounds and quiet sounds sound the same volume.

So compressor and noise gate work against each other kinda.

You gotta dial it in.

[dreamy bear]

it's picking up my pc fan

I can barely hear my pc fan also

[nova wagon]

yep, at2020 being hot, name a more iconic duo

[dreamy bear]

tell me when you can call so I can show you

[nova wagon]

also how far away is your mic to the desk?

[dreamy bear]

ignore the fortnite mousepad, got that in like 2017 lol

[dreamy bear]

hm

2 feet?

[dreamy bear]

Can you make it so my microphone boosts for a certain app?

[weak rapids]

well first we should see if his gain isnt maxed out

if he can literally hear highways then his gain is prob maxed

[dreamy bear]

I can't anymore

The problem is my keyboard and mouse

[nova wagon]

well the at2020 is really that hot tbh

[lean grove]

It's just sensitivity

[nova wagon]

hold on a min
looking at your pic, it looks like you are maxing the gain on the m track solo?

[dreamy bear]

I have never sent a pic

[weak rapids]

you sent 2 pics

[dreamy bear]

thought u meant the other persons pic

[lean grove]

Fortnite mouse pad

[dreamy bear]

.

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/we-like-fortnite-we-like-fortnite-speed-up-gif-26419282

[dreamy bear]

only one track yeah

[weak rapids]

well you shouldnt be doing that

theres 0 reason to max out the gain on a mic

[dreamy bear]

https://gyazo.com/4b42c4998bf94cd67179ed750a5804ff

https://gyazo.com/a46852ae4e96dbd4e3e187db18fb752b

which input is it for voicemeter to work on discord

cuz it is just going through my mic, not through my mic then voicemeter

[bitter hollow]

Try setting your mic to voicemeeter outpit

[dreamy bear]

I figured it out but it is just picking up everything

[bitter hollow]

your mic?

yeah, by default I think it sends all audio to all outputs

you need to turn off the virtual inputs to b1

iirc

basically, think of b1 as your microphone and a1 as your speakers

[haughty girder]

AT2020 has sorta harsh treble

I could understand if the fans got cucked by it

[dreamy bear]

is there a mic that's good that is less sensitive?

I don't need a microphone that picks up my farts

ridiculously sensitive

[haughty girder]

first: since you already have it, just set up a noisegate

or use RTX voice or smth

[dreamy bear]

when I am talking is when I hear the keyboard and mouse

[haughty girder]

yea so use rtx voice

[dreamy bear]

.

I'd rather have the worlds shittiest mic that doesn't have background noise then this garbage

[haughty girder]

.

[bitter hollow]

Buy a shotgun mic then

[molten lotus]

I mean

you were the one to buy a mic

that you didn't know how to use

[bitter hollow]

Also just turn the gain down

[molten lotus]

gain wont help

[haughty girder]

it will

gain down, mic closer to mouth

that's literally increasing signal noise ratio

[molten lotus]

I mean that's two things instead of one which I commented to

[haughty girder]

I was explaining

[supple kestrel]

check out what i just pulled off 😎

[molten lotus]

you made a spectogram?

[supple kestrel]

no i maxed out spek

[molten lotus]

why

[supple kestrel]

ultra lossless lossless loessless audio

[molten lotus]

I mean

if you are getting audio above 20khz

it means that your upscaling is damaging the track

meaning it's lower in quality than a normal one

[haughty girder]

spek just scales with Bit depth tho...

[molten lotus]

yeah

the artifacts above 20khz are the loss

[supple kestrel]

the original non-dynamics shifted track was already above 20khz

[molten lotus]

there are mics that respond to 48khz?

[supple kestrel]

it's ripped from a CD

this is the original ^^^

[molten lotus]

they did some weird upsampling

[supple kestrel]

the other one i posted i just maxed out the dynamics in soundforge studio

[haughty girder]

CDs are 16/44.1 tho

so whatever you're using to rip it

is adding stuff

[supple kestrel]

i did not rip it i torrented it

but the torrent is a cd rip

[haughty girder]

Oh

[molten lotus]

it's upscaled

upsampled rather

[haughty girder]

whatever the og owner used to rip upsampled

[molten lotus]

why do people do this

[haughty girder]

larger file size = better quality

perceived quality *

[supple kestrel]

yeah ok you're right

all of my other torrents are 16/44.1

idk why this one is 24/96

[livid ruin]

how to fix my headphone jack on my motherboard?

everytime i plug my speakers or any sort of higher voltage audio set it’ll start to scream and whine

even headset

any way to fix this

the noise is only present when there is no music playing. it gets less noticable as the audio output gets stronger

also, when there is nothing playing and i increase the voltage going into the speakers it is even worse

[molten lotus]

get an apple dongle

[primal fulcrum]

Hence why LP so good. Giant Disc!

Takes so much space, W W

[dry stratus]

Tfw logitech somehow thought putting this face on an ad was a good idea

[spring marlin]

The sound card is just for better audio than the onboard. I only mentioned the kickers to give a full scope of what I’m doing. I already have dedicated amps for my kickers. From the amp I’m using rca to 3.5mm cables into the corresponding channels so when I hit a curb front left in-game, that maps to front left kicker and the Jack that would be for the front left speaker if that makes sense. My budget is $300 for the sound card.

[dry stratus]

just get a dac...

[spring marlin]

Recommendation?

So dedicated sound cards aren’t necessary or useful anymore?

[dry stratus]

they never were

the only use they have is for those who don't have any space outside of the case whatsoever and just need something better than on-board

otherwise they just cost more for lower quality

[molten lotus]

Ah alright.
But you still want a DAC
If you want to get the best out of your Sound, then what you want is a DAC.
It's an external soundcard, which has the big advantage that it is located outside of your PC.
That way there will be no EM interference which you would normally get, with a soundcard located inside your PC.

[molten lotus]

The oldschool soundcards that you talk of, yes
Because of interference and the onboard sound which has been vastly improved over the years.

[molten lotus]

you can't really

given you have a decent room

speakers will always be price/performance kings

[dry stratus]

depends

[molten lotus]

I fail to understand what you are expecting of a sound card that a dedicated dac/amp cannot give?

[dry stratus]

not better for absolutely everything, but eh

[molten lotus]

it is really

you can't match speaker soundstage

clarity is dependent on the room

but near fields will generally cope well with most things

and you are never beating a subwoofer in terms of bass anyways realistically

[spring marlin]

I thought having a dedicated sound card would offer better audio quality than that of the onboard sound card

[molten lotus]

sound card audio quality is just more or less standard, to chase higher quality an external dac is a necessity for your purpose

however

[spring marlin]

But im happy to only get a dac

What would you recommend?

[molten lotus]

unless your motherboard sound card is working particularly bad, or you have a higher end system, you will not really benefit from a dac

keep this in mind

[spring marlin]

The onboard sound is fine. Was just looking for better. 😅

[molten lotus]

I mean

I can give you recommendations but like I said

[spring marlin]

I also do have a high end system

[molten lotus]

oh?

[spring marlin]

I9 11900k,3080 strix, 64gb ddr4 3200 ram, 850watt psu

[molten lotus]

no bro

the speakers

lmfao

[spring marlin]

Oh lol

[molten lotus]

We are talking about Audio.. xD

What speakers, what AMP ?

and do you have room treatment

if so how

and have you done room eq

[spring marlin]

Totem forest towers, totem mite bookshelves, Polk audio rti a1, Klipsch 12”sub and I have a lot of sound treatment including bass traps.

[molten lotus]

like

actual bass traps

or foam

[spring marlin]

Foam bass traps for the corners

[molten lotus]

foam bass traps

don't trap bass

unfortunately

I also have them

I learned that they are purely a gimmick later on as well

[dry stratus]

if I were to get into speakers, I would just do DIY wood or smth

[molten lotus]

you need actual mineral wool treatments for bass traps

anyways

honestly

if you want to ensure you have standard level audio quality, get an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter for like 9$

the rest of your money is far better spend treating your room or doing room eq

a dac should not at all be your priority

but if you are still set on purchasing a dac then an ifi zen air dac is a nice little thing for 100$

just be sure to set it to "fixed" mode with the switch on it's back if you are using it as a dac only

[spring marlin]

Interesting…

Thanks

[molten lotus]

no problem

[dry stratus]

kinda feel like getting those dumb logitech TWS to see if they are the first in ear that fits

[spring marlin]

The only thing I haven’t done is room eq because I need to replace the audussy cable for my avr

[molten lotus]

I don't follow

[dry stratus]

audussy?

audeze?

odyssey?

[spring marlin]

The external mic that comes with the avr to config all the levels of the speakers

[molten lotus]

interesting

[spring marlin]

It detects how far they are etc

[molten lotus]

isn't that practically doing room eq for you

[spring marlin]

It’s more or less a standard feature on home theatre avr’s

Right, that’s the only thing I haven’t done cause I need a new cable

[molten lotus]

I don't really deal with surround systems so I don't know much about them

also if its an avr system shouldn't you be using a digital cable instead of getting a dac?

since rca is only stereo

[bitter hollow]

Oh no
Audussy

[spring marlin]

So the avr connects to the pc via hdmi to my gpu but uses the onboard sound card

[molten lotus]

it does not

that's completely digital

[spring marlin]

That’s how things are wired lol. Not sure what to tell ya

[molten lotus]

I mean

the output may be on the sound card

but it does not use the onboard sound card

it's purely digital

it's just a connection

you aren't using the dac or the amp chips of the sound card

you will not benefit from replacing your sound card with a better item unless it's actively malfunctioning

in fact you will deteriorate your audio quality further if you wire a stereo dac into an avr system

[spring marlin]

Ok so this is good to know

[molten lotus]

yeah lol

[spring marlin]

Thanks for saving me money then lol

[molten lotus]

👍

if you are doing surround just stick to whatever digital inputs your avr has

[spring marlin]

If I’m already getting the best I can. Then I’m happy.

[molten lotus]

yeah, unless the thing is literally broken you wont change anything, it's just a bunch of 0s and 1s

either works or doesn't

[spring marlin]

Copy. Well thanks for your help this morning. Greatly appreciated.

[molten lotus]

you are welcome

[molten lotus]

You will get to a point, where you have to invest a lot of money in order to get "the best".
That's why as long as you are happy with your audio, everything is fine.
Until you have an audiophile friend who shows you his $50.000 setup and you start to question everything

[spring marlin]

Lol fair enough

[unique wind]

@molten lotus looks it’s your favorite headphone

the comfort with these is 50x better than he400se

[lean grove]

Suspension head strap wins

[unique wind]

it does for real

the shotty pleather headband on XS and he400se is genuinely terrible in comparison

[cobalt mountain]

Yeah, behringer is kinda iffy sometimes. the M32 is probably my favorite console to mix live shows on, but i'm just thinking about getting one of those for small corporate shit, and have it as just a usb interface for my pc when it's not on a gig

also I am well aware that midas makes the M32 not behringer, but it's the exact same console as behringer's X32 (Midas version has a different look, and slightly better preamps, but not by much)

[ornate blaze]

I've always had good experiences with it, I've just often bought 2 of them to keep 1 as a "new spare"

But I've ALWAYS had a better time with QSC/tc electronic/focusrite etc

[cobalt mountain]

tbf only behringer product i've used is the x32 and xair

never had those fail though

[ornate blaze]

The mixer of theirs I had claimed to have Midas mic pres in it - I bought it, because it was 150 to get pres with a basic compressor on them, it had 3 buses in total (to route my mic back into my PC separately and I could use the main output to switch between the different games consoles I had at my desk

xenyx something or other, don't remember what model now. lol

[cobalt mountain]

the x32 doesn't have genuine midas pres

it says "based on midas preamps" or smth like that

the m32 has genuine ones

[ornate blaze]

the inuke amplifiers with the DSP built in are/were very cool

I don't know if they still do those, but that made for a REALLY compact (and cheap) solution to using something like the (widely hated) Bose 402/802 etc speakers with no crossover in them

and lightweight for carrying around, haha

[cobalt mountain]

not really a speaker guy 😂 mainly actually a lighting guy, but I always end up getting stuck behind an audio desk

[tepid torrent]

I honestly dont know was going on with the 400se headband

[molten lotus]

did you buy them

[unique wind]

i did yeah

[molten lotus]

bruh

[unique wind]

they’re the first headphone i’ve ever owned that actually fits my head

makes me happy

[molten lotus]

only if they fucking sounded good

[unique wind]

i think they sound pretty good

they’re light on bass but i have a harman bass shelf

[molten lotus]

it says some things about a headphones quality if the first thing you do when you get them is to eq them

[unique wind]

nah i listened to them for a while stock and didn’t mind at all

i just prefer more bass than any open back is going to have stock

[unique wind]

substantially better than he400se stock

[cyan stump]

Same

[unique wind]

also substantially more comfortable

the clamp is perfect

[molten lotus]

how much did you pay for them

[unique wind]

msrp

300 from hifiman through amazon

[dry stratus]

TH909?

[unique wind]

i debated getting anandas or lcd 2 classics but i didn’t wanna spend $550-800

[molten lotus]

i think second hand would have worked out

[unique wind]

idk man the shelf on those starts at like 800hz

[unique wind]

i debated getting an open box for like 230 off the hifiman site but i don’t feel scammed paying 300

they’re a lot better than he400se but i haven’t heard many headphones obviously

[dry stratus]

get sus

[molten lotus]

I mean the open box is also covered by warranty and return laws

[unique wind]

yah i buy a lot of stuff open box

i thought i would hate the stock pads but they’re actually good

way better than the itchy garbage on he400

i have dekoni sheepskin pads coming in a few days but i might not even use them

comfort is great as is

[molten lotus]

I stuck to the og, makes it easier to apply eq presets

Has your option on technicalities have changed now that you have two headphones planars that are eqd to harman

[tepid torrent]

Omg

Y tho

[unique wind]

seemed like the best option for what i was willing to spend because the selection of neutral headphones with suspension headbands isn’t very large

[unique wind]

i don’t hear any new details in songs by any means but the soundstage is larger with these

[tepid torrent]

HD600+Capra strap bruh

[unique wind]

and they feel less bloated even though they should have the same tuning

[tepid torrent]

Or

Save up for XS

[unique wind]

xs caca headband

[molten lotus]

I dont think hearing new details happens after some point

[tepid torrent]

If you want to planar meme

Sundara straight not worth

[unique wind]

worth 2 me they’re extremely comfortable

[molten lotus]

I think Michael is going to get told this each time he mentions sundaras from now on

Happened already twice

[tepid torrent]

Because you have obviously only tried crappy headphones

[haughty girder]

sundsras are just bad.

edition xs is fine

[molten lotus]

I also agree, you can eq cope with them and make them sound surprisingly nice, but xs is just that much better

[tepid torrent]

Edition xs is at least much better

[unique wind]

it seems like a lot of audiophiles are conditioned to having a scoop in the upper mids and that may contribute to why you don’t like sundara

[tepid torrent]

Minus the headband

[unique wind]

xs headband is a dealbreaker straight up for me

[tepid torrent]

??

What

[haughty girder]

I give up on headphones tho

[unique wind]

based speaker enjoyer

[haughty girder]

Speakers for room, IEMs for anywhere else

Headphones are just too bulky

[unique wind]

i debated ananda stealth but it has really high bass distortion that made me worried about adding a bass shelf in eq and i wasn’t really wanting to spend $550 anyway

my next headphone after sundara if i ever care to upgrade will probably be audeze lcd2c

not interested in any of the hd6## series of sennys

[tepid torrent]

I dont like the sundara because its mediocre, not because of some tuning quirk i dont like

[molten lotus]

at least you dislike 6**

based

[tepid torrent]

[unique wind]

the hd600 is a good headphone it just doesn’t look like something that i would find comfortable

[tepid torrent]

Yes

Good shit

[molten lotus]

I mean

[tepid torrent]

LCD2 plus eq

[molten lotus]

lcd2 does get a lot better with eq

[tepid torrent]

As long as you arent fucked by audeze unit variation

[molten lotus]

its mid af stock tho imo

[unique wind]

this was my original plan but i pussief out on the price

seems like it’d be a fantastic headphone

[tepid torrent]

Basically all high end audezes

[unique wind]

i don’t know how people can listen to a stock lcdx and be like yes this is the best thing under 3 grand

like do you have ears?

[tepid torrent]

It is very comfy after the clamp gets loosened

Which you can do easily

[unique wind]

i actually like strong clamp

[tepid torrent]

And then I also got a suspension strap from fuku for my hd650

[unique wind]

suspension strap senny might be nice

[tepid torrent]

This

[dry stratus]

how about quitting audio and just getting crappy TWS/Headset

[tepid torrent]

Klaus doesnt like 6X0 headphones tho

[dry stratus]

need to try hundreds to find one that sounds good

[unique wind]

i think the 6xx is the most overrated audiophile headphone period but it’s not bad

[tepid torrent]

Its a neutral reference, it just sounds natural

Thats what its good at

[dry stratus]

not m50x?

cuz starters

[unique wind]

just looking at frequency response i would probably prefer hd600 or 650 over the 6xx

[tepid torrent]

6xx is the 650 tho

[unique wind]

i thought 6xx has more treble and subbass roll off

[tepid torrent]

Same headphone

Same tuning

Different paint

And shell

[unique wind]

weird

[tepid torrent]

You probably tried it with really worn pads

[molten lotus]

they are different afaik

6xx and hd650

[tepid torrent]

Should be the same

[molten lotus]

they are same enough

[tepid torrent]

For the most part

[molten lotus]

but marginally different

[tepid torrent]

Any difference is slight

[molten lotus]

hd650 allegedly being better slightly

Yeah

Nothing big

[tepid torrent]

Planning to upgrade to a aurorus borealis down the line

[molten lotus]

@unique wind are you using amir's correction

[unique wind]

yeah i am but slightly modified

i don’t use the 13khz peak filter and i use -7.54 preamp instead of 7.5

i’m not home right now though i’m on my way to a camp

[molten lotus]

try setting the low shelf to like 70-80hz

[dry stratus]

get Sus instead

[unique wind]

facts

[molten lotus]

i liked the shelf starting from 70hz more

[unique wind]

susvara with harman bass good luck powering it

[molten lotus]

50hz sounds really hollow

[unique wind]

it’d probably be like 54db sensitivity

[molten lotus]

lol

akg k1000 with harman

[dry stratus]

he1000se on a bright dac/amp when

[molten lotus]

the real challenge

[unique wind]

oh no klaus my mistake

i’m using oratories not amir

amir eq isn’t nearly as precise

[molten lotus]

which oratory eq

[unique wind]

2020 pad revision

but without the 13khz peak filter

[molten lotus]

i hated oratory's eq idk mate

i recommend swapping between the two presets

oratory's eq makes everything blend together and congested as hell

[unique wind]

i haven’t tried amir’s i only had like 20 minutes to play with them

[molten lotus]

muffled

that's fair

I just recommend giving amir's eq a bit more time

to me it was significantly better than oratory's

[unique wind]

i have arrived at camp

[ornate blaze]

Tempted to order a pair of something spendy to try out

[frosty ocean]

Is it ironic that someone made a set of speakers designed to look like a microphone?

[ornate blaze]

Are headphones frightened of microphones?

[unique wind]

klaus is frightened by microphones

[molten lotus]

yeah I have to doublecheck whether someone modded my drivers into mic diaphragms each time I get home

[frosty ocean]

is Samson a good brand? was it ever a good brand? it's probably owned by some random chinese company now

[molten lotus]

wasn't samson a chinese company since founding

[frosty ocean]

no idea

[molten lotus]

pretty sure samson is an asian name

like samsung

[unique wind]

xnamkcor is frightened by chinese people

[molten lotus]

true

they had like one or two decent mics

not much else

not that I know of at least

[frosty ocean]

"Samson Technologies, a US-American audio equipment company; see Wireless microphone"

oh shit...they don't even have a wikipedia article....

i messed up

[unique wind]

samson is a subsidiary of sam ash music

which was founded in 1924 in new york

by an austrian hungarian man named sam ash

[molten lotus]

why are they selling items 1st hand in mainland china

wacky

[sly shale]

what are good wireless headphones

[molten lotus]

for?

[sly shale]

everyday use

[molten lotus]

n700nc m2

[unique wind]

wtf these have downright good tuning

[molten lotus]

yeah

[unique wind]

that’s crazy for bluetooth nc headphones

do you know if the crinacle graph is measured passive or active

[dry stratus]

quietcomforts are alright as well

[molten lotus]

nope

quietcomforts are alright

but they are incredibly fragile

their anc shit itself fast

and components death are way too common

[dry stratus]

I would take the quiet comforts over the N700NCM2 if what I needed was better ANC and didn't care about a little worse sound

[molten lotus]

that's fair

[frosty ocean]

https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-BTR5-2021-Bluetooth5-0-Headphone-Lightning/dp/B09G9XDCWB

[unique wind]

i don’t think i’ll ever have a use for noise cancelling headphones

[molten lotus]

that's practically wired

[unique wind]

id rather have noise cancelling earbuds if it’s for use in public

[molten lotus]

etymotics

[dry stratus]

I want to try those logitech TWS...

[unique wind]

the low latency ones?

[molten lotus]

you are obsessed with the logitech tws

[dry stratus]

something that might fit for once maybe

[molten lotus]

why do you think so

[dry stratus]

and doesn't require me to carry a big bag

[molten lotus]

also did you ever try triple flange eartips

er2se tips

[dry stratus]

they don't have XXS

[frosty ocean]

I got my BTR5 for 20 dollars and I love it

[molten lotus]

that's actually a great price

how did you get it for so cheap

[frosty ocean]

it was from a used music store

The person probably thought it was a cheap MP3 player or something

[unique wind]

he400se is loosey goosey ran through compared to the clamp on sundara

[frosty ocean]

the fact that they didnt recognise Fiio is kinda weird though

[molten lotus]

sundara has too much clamp

stresses my head

[unique wind]

i love it

[dry stratus]

just maybe it might work well enough that they at least don't fall out unless I force them back in every minutes or two

[molten lotus]

hate it

nothing will ever feel comfortable after 70x

[unique wind]

clamp = good if the pads are soft

[dry stratus]

buy he6

[molten lotus]

nah

hard disagree

im getting oval pad for the r70x too

[unique wind]

i got a goofy ass head shape remember so clamp = good for me

[frosty ocean]

well, i gotta go buy some prepaid credit cards so i can pay off my medical debt without letting them know my personal financial information

[molten lotus]

so it will be even more comfortable

[unique wind]

if all the weight is rested on the top of my head they won’t sit right

[dry stratus]

when will you try he6

[molten lotus]

where would I try it

[dry stratus]

somewhere

make a friend who has one

[molten lotus]

not helping

[unique wind]

con said he’d buy me susv

[molten lotus]

I doubt anyone in this country is intelligent enough to know what a he6 is

[unique wind]

hifiman he6 looks kinda wack

[dry stratus]

merica?

[molten lotus]

yeah it does

[molten lotus]

I don't have a visa

can german passport get you to america

[unique wind]

i don’t think i’d ever consider buying it just because it looks so wack

[molten lotus]

cringe

[dry stratus]

merica is braindead pewpew

[unique wind]

$1300 for circle cup hifiman is wild

[dry stratus]

3500*

used only

[molten lotus]

its essentially a susvara

for cheap

[frosty ocean]

im not an expert...but im pretty sure a passport is what lets you travel to other countries...or maybe that's a "VISA"...

[unique wind]

totally different shape tho

if you want circle cup susvara tuning just get sundara

[dry stratus]

not even close

[molten lotus]

a passport is what lets you travel to other countries you are allowed to, a visa is what is given to you temporarily for countries you can't access

[molten lotus]

carmon tier

[unique wind]

he6 just looks straight up bad g

it looks uncomfortable and weird tuning

[molten lotus]

it is a susvara driver essentially

[dry stratus]

god tier*

[molten lotus]

its like

[unique wind]

doesn’t seem implemented well

[molten lotus]

one of the best you can own

I think you are either reading he6se measurements or someone with a scuffed rig

[frosty ocean]

"can't access"? Like that one place you need an airship to get to near the end of the game?

[unique wind]

it does have extremely low distortion even up to 104db which is cool

[molten lotus]

yeah

[dry stratus]

best looking headphone

[molten lotus]

but planes

tbh that interior is pretty nutty

[frosty ocean]

so, if i walked to america from Germany, I could use a passport?

[unique wind]

it looks like a case of great driver in shit container

[molten lotus]

I don't think you can

nevermind

[frosty ocean]

but if i somehow got to america, from germany, with my own methods, i would just need a passport?

[molten lotus]

usa citizens don't need a visa to access germany

[frosty ocean]

Say...I owned a seaworthy vessel

[molten lotus]

you get checked for a passport and visa when traveling and arrive

if you avoid it you are legally still in your own country

[dry stratus]

run fast enough to run on water

or just make a raft

[frosty ocean]

you said visa was only for countries i cant access...if i sail a seaworthy vehicle I own, i can access it

[molten lotus]

not legally you can't

[frosty ocean]

then i was missinformed

[molten lotus]

I mean

rationally speaking its generally easier to apply for a visa rather than handcrafting an aircraft to fly over the atlantic

successfully

[frosty ocean]

so, pretty much the answer is "you only need a visa to go places you need a visa to go to"

[frosty ocean]

aircrafts are heavily regulated. that would be a really inefficient way to get over the ocean

[dry stratus]

build a raft

[molten lotus]

ships are also very heavily regulated

[dry stratus]

and use your hands as paddles

[molten lotus]

you would be caught by border patrol easily

[dry stratus]

"its not a ship, it's floating wood"

[weak rapids]

Why are we talking about illegally immigrating lol

[outer warren]

Good BT over ear headphones for Android for <150 ? no ANR needed

[tepid torrent]

Jbl tune710

[outer warren]

Already have tune 750, fitment on my ears aren't great

[molten lotus]

try n700nc m2 then

[south cave]

I’m looking for something that I can route all my audio for my computer, Xbox, and PlayStation audio through and have it come out to my headphones. Any ideas, I’m thinking maybe an mixer but all I can find don’t have that many red/white quarter inch inputs

[molten lotus]

gaming headset manufacturers, take note

[tepid torrent]

What is that

[molten lotus]

a mic soldered to a 3.5mm jack

mic came from a landline handset

its shockingly good

compared to my normal mic

actual garbage sounds better than a gaming headset

to make it better i stuck it inside of an aluminum can

[sick forge]

Live event battle station

[molten lotus]

I wanna buy a lands microphone now 😔

[plush hedge]

making me jealous

only ever mixed on a shitty soundcraft lx7 and a Yamaha TF3

Correction, a shitty soundcraft lx7 with shitty amps

[sick forge]

RIP. But the TF3 is a minor favorite of mine.

[cyan stump]

You don’t know what I’d give for that mixer

[real wharf]

@real wharf do anyone have an alternative to the corsair hs55 stereo (white) ?

[dreamy bear]

Anyone using the at 2020?

[frail pagoda]

Any recommendations for gaming headsets around the 65$ USD mark?

preferably available on amazon

[open scaffold]

Yes, I have it unfortunately

[open scaffold]

Arctis Nova 1. PC37X is better if you can save up to $100 tho

[versed marsh]

I'm feeling AMPed

[vale girder]

Which speakers are better

[covert basin]

so m-track solo is better than than focusrite scarlett solo?

[molten lotus]

yes

[covert basin]

alr ty

[molten lotus]

pebble

[molten lotus]

cloud 2 when its on sale

[unique wind]

[sick forge]

If you want a mixer, this is the new meta for home setups in my opinion.

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/proaudio/mixers/dm3/index.html

Get a Dante virtual sound card for you computer and you’re set for all the inputs.

[plush hedge]

Yeah doesn't deserve the hate it gets sometimes

[ornate blaze]

For home recording studios? Or for “podcasters”

[sick forge]

Yes

I plan to get one for recording/streaming

My OBS will be so clean

[ornate blaze]

2 grand

[molten lotus]

and they call audiophiles wasteful

[narrow monolith]

Is there a difference in sound quality between the Logitech G Pro and Pro x?

[molten lotus]

yes

[narrow monolith]

is it a significant difference?

[peak yacht]

whats a good ddc under 2k?

not dac, ddc

[molten lotus]

They are both inferior to cloud 2 so who cares

[narrow monolith]

G pro or cloud alpha s?

[molten lotus]

cloud 2

[dapper quartz]

What do yall think about these neckband speakers lately, great idea but poor tech? or the next best thing since sliced bread

[lean grove]

What neckband speakers

[dapper quartz]

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/sony-srsns7-neckband-speaker-with-dolby-atmos-black-10233767.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=prllliimt&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~0090 (Shopping Ads) Headphones - Brand Sony 2021~0090 (PLA) HEADPHONES - Brand Sony ad group~Exact~71700000080162178~&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=m&ds_kids=92700071209404428&tgtid=0090 (Shopping Ads) Headphones - Brand Sony 2021&gclsrc=aw.ds

Dolby Atmos around your neck sounds enticing

Probably sounds like low bass high treble though

[lean grove]

This tech has been around for decades

And you don't see them in every home.

So take that as you wish.

[narrow monolith]

is there a difference in the 7.1 surround sound in headphones vs in external software like Dolby atmos

[lean grove]

yes.

[molten lotus]

yes but not the way you would think

surround in headphones is globally a meme so you shouldn't be chasing it regardless of the surround quality

[molten lotus]

google sennheiser surrounder

[steel escarp]

a zen air dac is enough to power he400se to spec

[molten lotus]

yes it is

[molten lotus]

that's a power calculator

it's unrelated to drivability just volume

[steel escarp]

drivability?

[molten lotus]

driving headphones is different than making them loud enough to be usable

you can find a billion class D amplifiers with 50 watt at 8 ohm outputs

the odds are they will not power a he400se better than a zen air dac

power quantity is different than power quality

[steel escarp]

if its within voltage and current specs

how could it not be drivable

[molten lotus]

that falls in a subjective definition but power properties indicate power quantity

not quality

if quantity was quality then everyone would be buying 200 watt class d amps

[steel escarp]

I mean, the distortion at those output levels are out of the picture with these 2 images

[molten lotus]

grey

this is like

if your motherboard gets shit loud enough then you don't need an amp tier argument

[steel escarp]

so how do you measure this power quality

[molten lotus]

that is the issue

the best you can get to is listening to shit yourself to establish mediums

there are too many measurements which correlate in ways we cannot measure how they will sound in the end

if we could then making dacs and amps would be incredibly easy

[lean grove]

goldenone did a good video on this already

[molten lotus]

I wasn't aware

also keep in mind I don't mean "better" audio as in more neutral

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/PqlcJnoIcGo

[molten lotus]

we already got close to neutral audio like

real easily

99% of topping shit is already neutral enough

[lean grove]

#audio-tech message

[molten lotus]

but we don't find neutral fun to listen to so we get amps that color shit

same with dacs

[lean grove]

An amp might be able to supply 4W at max. But doesn't mean it can output 1W cleanly. This doesn't generally apply to the really feedback heavy stuff, but there are a LOT of amps which will have significantly higher distortion (of various types) at even just a quarter or half their max output. So if you need only 1W, doesn't mean a 6W amp is guaranteed to be fine. The power spec is basically just when the amp becomes unusable, it doesn't guarantee it performs its best upto that point.

[molten lotus]

there are headphones that can actually be considered marvelously good measuring and very close to perfect in terms of audio recreation

as far as our audio measurement abilities go

but they don't sound like, particularly better than shit like susvaras

[steel escarp]

I mean there is no guarantee it performs best til that point, true

[molten lotus]

what I am essentially getting at is

[steel escarp]

by increasing the headroom you can sorta mitigate that

but not entirely

[molten lotus]

neutral audio is not what humans find stimulating, and amps help us color headphones in the higher end

you don't pay for more neutral or higher fidelity audio, you just pay for more pleasing audio

[steel escarp]

btw

they said audeze mm-100 frequency response is similar to mm-500

[lean grove]

who did

[steel escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYkMxz_AkWQ

the guy from audeze

who was interviewed

I love how they put 3.5mm on there

and they fixed their manufacturing hence its cheaper

loved the vocals on the mm-500 if you EQ the 3k shout down a bit

only 400 dollars

[molten lotus]

i didn't know of these headphone's existence

[steel escarp]

the stage was nothing special on these

they were a bit bigger than he400se in stage

if I recall correctly

[lean grove]

unimportant

[steel escarp]

I quite like the stage of my edition xs

just having that available to me all the time has influenced my standards tho

[narrow monolith]

so all these haedphones with surround 7.1 are all gimmicks?

[molten lotus]

yes

[narrow monolith]

so you can achieve the same effect with dolby atoms software?

[unique wind]

surround sound is a gimmick with headphones in general

[unique wind]

it is tbf

[molten lotus]

it isn't

you will only achieve neutral with numbers

nothing else

[unique wind]

it probably costs them like

$15 to make a $100 amp

[molten lotus]

you are wrong unfortunately

[unique wind]

a basic 2w class d single ended amp is baby shit for a manufacturer

[molten lotus]

other companies are not topping

[unique wind]

magni 3 demonstrates that a good sounding powerful amp is pretty easy to make

[molten lotus]

which

3+?

[unique wind]

yah

[molten lotus]

well yeah

entry level shit

its simple to make

still measures a lot worse than heresy

[unique wind]

even end game measurements are pretty cheap

[molten lotus]

yet still sounds better

[molten lotus]

you fail to see that the aim isn't achieving measurements

if numerical neutrality is what we wanted everyone would be using a topping d10 dac

we don't

neutral sound is ass

that's why we spend outrageous amounts of money on colored sounding stuff

[ornate blaze]

Or not outrageous money on coloured sounding stuff

[unique wind]

if an amp sounds noticeably different than another one there’s probably a metric you can measure to assume why it does

[molten lotus]

not really

lol

[ornate blaze]

I prefer the idea of the amp and source being relatively neutral then changing headphones/speakers to suit taste/room

[unique wind]

like some people enjoy the sound from the single ended output on the magnius even though it measures like absolute ass

[molten lotus]

you can find differences

[narrow monolith]

Whats the best sounding headphones ever ignoring price

[unique wind]

i guess they like the crazy high distortion

[molten lotus]

but you cannot link those differences generally

[molten lotus]

i mean yeah that's fair

but your general distortion is usually not the sort of distortion you want

though there are amps that intentionally do that which sound nice

[unique wind]

back on the measuring why something sounds different

i think in the abyss 1266 review by amir he notes that the crazy spikes in group delay in the treble might give it a more spacious sound

i think it was group delay anyway

i’ll have to find it

[ornate blaze]

Maybe people just have their preferences

Imagine that 😮

[unique wind]

we might be able to figure out exactly why things sound different as measurement rigs improve

[molten lotus]

humans don't find neutral stimulating

[unique wind]

says who

[molten lotus]

this is objective knowledge

[ornate blaze]

Correct

[molten lotus]

there is actual research on this michael

[unique wind]

i prefer neutral mids with neutral ear gain

[molten lotus]

you don't live in a perfectly acoustic world

[ornate blaze]

But there is also people who do prefer neutral

[molten lotus]

everything you hear in your life is distorted by something else

[unique wind]

i don’t like lower treble scoops

[molten lotus]

neutral sound does not mentally stimulate you

you cannot link perfect sound to emotions

[unique wind]

well yeah but the music isn’t neutral

[molten lotus]

because you don't hear perfect sound normally

[ornate blaze]

Exactly that

[molten lotus]

it's fairly neutral compared to real life

done in acoustically treated rooms

made to remove imperfections

this is of course not the case for all music

[ornate blaze]

But there are people who will still choose a product which measures mostly neutrally

[molten lotus]

but overall compared to real life, music is a lot more perfect

[unique wind]

id rather use neutral headphones and let the person making the track decide how dynamic it is

[molten lotus]

ive yet to see what but ill take your word for it

[unique wind]

i mean i did that

[molten lotus]

that wouldn't happen

[unique wind]

i bought sundara because it was the cheapest neutral headphone with a suspension strap and big earpads

[molten lotus]

because mixing headphones aren't neutral

I mean

sundara is bright imo

objectively so

[ornate blaze]

And there you go, someone who has done just what I said / or tried to

[unique wind]

it has a few treble peaks that seem kinda random based on luck of the draw

but it’s mostly neutral with the 2020 earpads

[molten lotus]

it has lots of decay in the highs

it gets particularly sibilant

the better you power it

which is why people hate it including me

[unique wind]

sibilance is frequency response dependent

[molten lotus]

it isn't

distortion and decay also affects it

sundara has it

even amir's measurements show so

[unique wind]

amir’s measurements show that his sundara had a peak in the treble at 6k

and some distortion at 6k that came along with it

[molten lotus]

which should also have decay or distortion

[unique wind]

but if you use the peak filter he put on it mostly goes away

[molten lotus]

you can't unfuck distortion with eq

that doesn't make sense

[unique wind]

you can definitely mask it

distortion rises with volume

[molten lotus]

i mean yeah

[unique wind]

if you’re worried about treble distortion never buy an abyss headphone

[molten lotus]

but you lose out on that part of the fr spectrum

[unique wind]

i mean it was peaked above reference anyway

[molten lotus]

here you go

[unique wind]

colorful waves

i’m stuck at my little cousins birthday party

[ornate blaze]

What headphones does he have

[unique wind]

no clue

[ornate blaze]

Hehe

[unique wind]

my dekoni sheepskin earpads are in the mailbox at home man i wanted to try them out

[ornate blaze]

I’d planned to put the hifi on today but family drama stuff has meant no music, again, today

[unique wind]

we’re in the same boat

can’t wait to replace my iemagni

noise floor is crazy with low impedance planars

my magnius modius stack should come tuesday

[ornate blaze]

In my case if it isn’t the dogs making a racket, it’s the (adult) kid being a prat

Hence my appreciation for the ancs lol

Home alone tomorrow for a few hours so I’ll be able to play music then thankfully

[unique wind]

anc gives me a headache but that’s valid

[ornate blaze]

It’s not a preference at all

Just makes it viable

[unique wind]

gotta do what you gotta do

[languid breach]

hi

https://altex.ro/boxe-logitech-z200-2-0-10w-alb/cpd/BOX980000811/?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=17681749807&cq_con=&cq_term=&cq_med=pla&cq_plac=&cq_net=x&cq_pos=&cq_plt=gp&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlumhBhClARIsABO6p-xNoL3Xy4iASJr9SxjRI5pptJ3YwfFBYnYRwC6CFTeRq49h1eIGUzEaAoJREALw_wcB

best buget?

[ornate blaze]

Focals

I love final descent

Ascent, rather 😂

[steel escarp]

damn he got the copium speakers

[ornate blaze]

Are they utopias?

[white gate]

Sopra no 3s

[ornate blaze]

Awesome 🙂

Do they have the beryllium tweeters?

[white gate]

Yep!

[ornate blaze]

The closest I’ll ever get to that during this stage of my life is the Yamaha ns1000m lol

In case you were remotely interested

[white gate]

That's a nice looking setup

Dog is +5 timbre

[ornate blaze]

Thanks - I wish I used the stereo stuff more than I do

[lean grove]

Diy will take you further than Consumer

Per dollar anyways

[ornate blaze]

I’m going to be building kattkistas out of corian once my friend has time to get the cnc machine running

But I am actually happy with what I have here anyway

I have had the drivers and crossover components ready for about 5 years 😂 just laziness

[unique wind]

[ornate blaze]

“CAOW1” is the other name for the design: http://teribil-audio.com/2018/06/caow1-speakers/

You can see my friends previous diy build of his “ultimate jazz speaker” elsewhere on his site there

DIY big blues lol

[somber fog]

Hello! So I've been using FxSound for a bit and I like it for music and movies, but I have to turn it off for LoL as it seems to be using up too many resources for my little office computer and I start dropping to 45fps (from 60fps) which I feel is more like 30fps.. Is there something else I should look into?

I was using Equalizer APO before but FxSound got me with the easy audio device switch and simple off and on. The instant difference in audio too, but that might just be preset differences and probably overblown boosts that FxSound probably comes default with.

[steel escarp]

when watching series I usually put the volume of the mp4 on 130%

am I the only one who does this

it usually doesn't clip

happened on only a few shows to me

[unique wind]

i try not to use digital volume control

[cobalt mountain]

@molten lotus
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProFX12v3--mackie-profx12v3-12-channel-mixer-with-effects

best live console

[inland bobcat]

Tractor Supply's finest hardware for my mic arm

[cobalt mountain]

@molten lotus

[cobalt mountain]

🤣🤣🤣

[rigid torrent]

Is there any way to increase this?

[thorny basin]

Does anyone here have experience with neckband speakers?

[thorny basin]

Can't you just move the slider?

[rigid torrent]

It won't let me

[lean grove]

its probably locked

you dont wanna go above 0db

[thorny basin]

Yeah, if that's your actual DAC/amp, there should be a hardware knob on it to adjust the level, and you wouldn't want to change it in software

[languid breach]

Boxe LOGITECH Z200, 2.0, 10W, alb

Best?

[molten lotus]

Don't

[halcyon basin]

hey im thinking to buy a USB mic for my setup (not getting XLR cuz i needa get an audio interface or mixer idk much abt those stuff) i was wondering which one i should get, blue yeti x or hyperx quadcast S, I'd appreciate it if someone could tell me which one is better or which other USB mic is best.

[molten lotus]

both of those are really bad and outdated

between the two quadcast is better but there are plenty of better options like mpm1000u, fifine 669 or razer seiren mini which sound better for cheaper

[halcyon basin]

do they really sound better though?

[molten lotus]

I mean

the yeti is straight up bad sounding

[halcyon basin]

oh what

[molten lotus]

pc38x headset mic sounds straight up leagues better than the yeti

there is a guy deconstructing yeti on youtube and sourcing components

the components of yeti cost like 9$ in total on aliexpress lol

[halcyon basin]

the yeti x reviews on youtube dont seem that bad tho

[molten lotus]

you can just listen to voice demos if you want on youtube and compare them

[molten lotus]

affiliates/sponsors

if they don't say the yeti is bad then they must really not know about that field

or are sellouts

[halcyon basin]

ohh

then is the quadcast S good?

[molten lotus]

its better than the yeti

but other options i mentioned are still on par/better

[halcyon basin]

ohh

is the seiren v2 pro good then?

[molten lotus]

seiren v2 is worse than the mini

lol

[halcyon basin]

💀

[molten lotus]

it's pretty funny

it uses a plastic mesh instead of a metal one so the static is unbearable

you can just look up voice tests on youtube

compare mics for yourself

[halcyon basin]

yeahh i saw blue yeti voice tests

and it doesnt rlly sound bad

[molten lotus]

it may not but the others are noticeably better

compare it to other options and it will sound obviously worse

just listen to demos and decide for yourself

[halcyon basin]

alright:)

[ornate blaze]

I have the marantz mpm1000 usb mic and it’s fine

It’s in an arm I had from a cheap xlr outfit I got rid of a couple years ago

[molten lotus]

mpm1000u is pretty good for a usb mic

[languid breach]

Test?

[molten lotus]

what?

[languid breach]

Test microfon

[molten lotus]

who

[languid breach]

Microphone buget

[molten lotus]

I don't think I understand

[languid breach]

which is the best

?

[molten lotus]

mpm1000u is pretty decent?

[glad creek]

it is

I bought it for a friend some years ago

[hot veldt]

Does anyone know a solid upgrade from the Q acoustic 3030i ?