audio-tech

[cunning scroll]

well send a picture

[molten lotus]

mate

literally

[tepid torrent]

i did tho????

[molten lotus]

everything

you plug into your motherboard

is sticking out

why is apple dongle in particular an issue

[cunning scroll]

they are loose cables not a metal box

[molten lotus]

it isn't a fucking metal box either mate

its literally a cable sized dongle

[tepid torrent]

Its super small

I dont know what you have a problem with

[cunning scroll]

waithats not right

[molten lotus]

its thinner than 99% of headset cables you will encounter

[tepid torrent]

Except it is right

[molten lotus]

it is right

[tepid torrent]

nincompoop

[cunning scroll]

that has 1 not 6 tho

[tepid torrent]

???

6 what

[cunning scroll]

ports

[molten lotus]

what use do you have for 6 ports

[tepid torrent]

So? are you plugging 6 headphones in or something

[molten lotus]

buy 6 apple dongles then

the thing doesn't cost 10$

[cunning scroll]

i dont have 6 usb ports

[molten lotus]

so what use do you have for 6 ports

do you have 6 heads

[cunning scroll]

🤦‍♂️

[molten lotus]

no tell me

[cunning scroll]

your not getting any further

[molten lotus]

what

[cunning scroll]

i'll probably just use that pci one sitting in the attic since 1998

[molten lotus]

why

[cunning scroll]

because... i can

[molten lotus]

I thought the point was to have good audio since for some reason your onboard isn't good

[cunning scroll]

was

[molten lotus]

now it is having 6 outputs for your conjoined heads?

[cunning scroll]

maybe it was the front panel fucked up

[molten lotus]

front panels are ass

globally

[cunning scroll]

it was all staticky

[cunning scroll]

the speaker system

[molten lotus]

which

[cunning scroll]

the speaker set i have

[molten lotus]

yes which

to my knowledge every logitech speaker system runs on stereo

and every good one runs on digital

[stoic kayak]

There are older ones which used multiple cables.

[cunning scroll]

it's a 2ch bose i think?

[molten lotus]

that needs 1 port

[cunning scroll]

🌬️

[molten lotus]

anyways mate if you want assurance for your purchase you wont be finding it

pcie sound cards have been redundant since 10 years ago

[tepid torrent]

what is happening in your brain

You straight up arent telling us anything

useful

[cunning scroll]

why do they still exist then

[molten lotus]

because people like you also exist

[cunning scroll]

dial up cards are completely dead i'm sure

[molten lotus]

its common knowledge in any audio community

dial up phones were sick those should come back

[tepid torrent]

also why do you need 6 3.5 jacks instead of the one the apple dongle has

[cunning scroll]

i'vr been having to use earrape monitor speakers the last 12 years of my life.

[tepid torrent]

You still havent said

[cunning scroll]

☁️

[tepid torrent]

bro you are being purposefully hard to help

You know how annoying this is right now

[stoic kayak]

if you gonna get that pci card dont forget to get an AQVox switch.

[tepid torrent]

Except you should just get a apple dongle and avoid the hassle

[cunning scroll]

the person you are looking for is no longer here

[runic wing]

do you guys know any good audio servers

[tepid torrent]

IEF

[runic wing]

alright seems good

thanks

[tepid torrent]

Headphone headquarters

Headphones.com

[molten lotus]

no don't

headphone headquarters is terrible

they shill the weirdest headphones in an perpetual echo chamber

they despise susvaras and edition xs and adore sundaras

literally the weirdest echo chamber

I don't like ief either but it's still a fuck ton better than headphone headquarters

[severe hare]

Klaus i found sundara for 200€ lol was looking for 560s in after market

[molten lotus]

I own them

I don't recommend them

[severe hare]

ppl say it needs a good amp

soo more 200 euro on top

[molten lotus]

I have a good amp

unless you do lots of eq coping with them it's not worth it

[severe hare]

my true question is

[molten lotus]

for 500$ you can get edition xs which is significantly better

[severe hare]

this mic https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B09C5TM8SP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1Z9JDUNXKNJVN&psc=1

[molten lotus]

honestly

[severe hare]

will affect audio quality?

[molten lotus]

go listen to sound demos

it shouldn't affect the sound quality

[severe hare]

alright

[molten lotus]

like, it's plausible but it shouldn't given it works normally

which is difficult to fuck up

[severe hare]

for less than 200€ i will get 560s with that mic and apple dongle

i dont know how to EQ soo sundaras not for me

[molten lotus]

there are already made presets but yeah

stick to hd560s anyways

if you ever feel like upgrading get an edition xs for 500$

no baby steps

needs an amplifier tbh so it will cost more

[severe hare]

that is very end game

for me

[molten lotus]

well yeah

but instead of sundara + amp for 400$

getting an edition xs without an amp for 450-500$ is better imo

[severe hare]

well, hoping that will be a huge upgrade coming from hyperx cloud alpha into 560s

in comfort / sound

on these i had to change the cups because i was hiting the plastic and hurted my ears, and now the top band is hurtinglol

[chrome saddle]

ah gosh, I discovered a good deal on a matched pair of rode nt5 mics the other day and have spent today justifying it to myself. Time to get poorer

[severe hare]

xD

had a similar buy last month but was a phone S22U

[molten lotus]

give it more time

use the hd560s for a day or two

then try the cloud 2s again

you will hear a vast difference if you give your ears time

[severe hare]

the 2s should be better than the alpha

i got the cheaper version

cloud alpha

should be like 60hz to 144hz got it xD

[molten lotus]

lol

just take my word on it and listen to the hd560s for a few days

tens of people before said they don't notice a big difference to me

[weak rapids]

I had the alpha for a couple days and they were pretty good for both a gaming headset and only total of $100 CAD

[molten lotus]

only to say there is a great difference a few days after

alpha is decent though

[weak rapids]

Yes please, the hd560s is amazing

[molten lotus]

ngl

[severe hare]

alpha problem for me is comfort

pads shit had to replace and is hurting on top of my head

[weak rapids]

They were alright, however would recommended replacement earpads

[molten lotus]

oh wait

[weak rapids]

The leather pads are really cheap

[molten lotus]

i thought you bought hd560s

[severe hare]

and i did

[molten lotus]

you got them?

[severe hare]

i already HAVE the apha

[molten lotus]

wait so

[severe hare]

my upgrade is hd560

xD

i didnt bought yet tho

are on cart

[molten lotus]

ah

I thought you initially meant that you don't notice a significant difference between alphas and hd560s

which you might not if you don't give it enough time

which is like a day or a few hours

given you use it instead of let it sit on your head

[weak rapids]

Honestly the main thing I heard between the alphas and hd560s is the hd560s you hear the bass meanwhile the alphas you feel the bass

[severe hare]

and comfort?

[molten lotus]

subject to your head shape

[weak rapids]

Oh hd560s is miles ahead imo

[molten lotus]

but its overall more comfy imo as well

[severe hare]

nice, maybe i will notice more diference in the apple dongle as u guys mencioned

[weak rapids]

The clamping force is a bit more but barley noticeable imo

I feel like when people bring it up they blow it out of the water

Now currently my hd560s has a slight plastic creaking noise in the headband when i move my head but that could just be it breaking in

[severe hare]

alright

excited to get mines

tbh i hoped for a better sounding because of the open vs close alpha

[molten lotus]

alpha is open?

[severe hare]

open hd560s vs closed alpha

[molten lotus]

ah

[weak rapids]

Klaus whats your opinion on dt900 pro x and dt700 pro x

[molten lotus]

no idea

but considering the hype for them died out in a week after launch I wouldn't expect much of them

[unique wind]

i would avoid either of them, if you want a nicer beyer headphone get the 1990 and eq it

[unique wind]

lcd-2c are so pretty

[tender frost]

Love the originals with the wood cups

Even if they cracked and chipped they're still pretty looking

[unique wind]

true that those are also very pretty

[molten lotus]

that's dumb

considering they cost the same as edition xs

[unique wind]

no comment because you didnt read my message

[nova frost]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/fiio-ft3-open-back-dynamic-driver-headphones/

nice smooth freq

[open scaffold]

Cursed image with connectors on the wrong way

[wispy zephyr]

can you guys tell me the best option for a headset with a mic on it for under 100$?

[lean grove]

What's wrong with the last answer we gave you

[wispy zephyr]

Because those didn't have a mic in it and I think I can get better ones with my budget

[molten lotus]

what was the answer he gave you

[violet heron]

isn't a cloud ii around that budget

[wispy zephyr]

I don't remember but it was like a fifine mic and some headphones

[molten lotus]

I think you should start by remembering the advice people give you

sounds like he was onto something

odds are it was akg k361 or k371 he recommended

which is significantly better than anything you can get for that much money

given you don't purchase in ears or chase after soundstage with koss

[wispy zephyr]

yeah but hp got hyperx so the model isn't that good anymore

[molten lotus]

what

[wispy zephyr]

i think it was k371

[violet heron]

I don't think they would go as far as changing the drivers

[molten lotus]

then he gave you excellent advice

you can't get better than that for that much

[wispy zephyr]

they did, a dude made some video about it and now the audio is worse for the same price ;-;

[wispy zephyr]

what about the headphones?

[molten lotus]

who

I was talking about headphones

[wispy zephyr]

wait the k371 are the headphones?

[violet heron]

yes

[wispy zephyr]

oh okay

then I don't remember the mic

[molten lotus]

fifine t669 probs

[violet heron]

could be like a t669 yeah

[molten lotus]

do consider mpm1000u though

it sounds better than the t669 pretty sure

[tender frost]

They still have the same OEM, doing quality didn't change

At their core the cloud ii is still the takstar pro 80 (or 82 idr)

[lean grove]

Creative aurvanas and a fifine

Idk if I brought up akgs

[wispy zephyr]

https://youtu.be/WKmzIx4GVf4

[molten lotus]

still good

[wispy zephyr]

fifine k669?

[molten lotus]

k669 to my information does not come with a desk stand

but t669 does

I recommend a boom arm regardless but it might be difficult to fit in a 100$ budget

[inland bobcat]

Anyone know of any 5/8 female mic arm mounts like my rode one here

My googling has come up with nothing

[molten lotus]

mic screws are pretty standardized

it should work without issues generally

[sharp basin]

Anyone have any thoughts on the hd 579? Whether it's worth it or not?

[open scaffold]

People who still rec the cloud ii are people who have not heard them any time recently

Arctis Nova 1s are better for less $

PC37X is still the move tho for $100. I think the days of them going on sale for $80 are over with the new direction senny is taking with their pricing nowadays tho.

[molten lotus]

i have some

its bad

[sharp basin]

How come?

[molten lotus]

propose counter arguments and i will refute them

easier than proposing everything i know

looking to buy some headphones, finally a pair of good stereo ones rather than logitech gaming ones. What would be the best DAC/AMP to pair the beyer DT 990 Pro X's with?

[lean grove]

Schiit magni and modi.

[molten lotus]

Ah, don't see them on amazon and aren't available locally, any other options?

[lean grove]

If you're on Amazon, maybe a zen dac or a topping l30 and E30 stack.

If you wanna go maximum value, you can also get a cx31993 dongle and hook it up to the l30.

[molten lotus]

This?

[molten lotus]

What do you mean L30 and E30 stack?

Sorry I'm very new to high tech audio.

[lean grove]

Yeah. I keep forgetting to specify the zen dac air. It's pretty .ugh the same thing just cheaper.

L30 is just an amplifier.
E30 is just a DAC. Not combined.

Allows you to get maximum performance for that part.

[molten lotus]

https://www.amazon.com/Topping-Decoder-2xAK4493S-Digital-Decoder/dp/B0B7LBCLM5/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3LA8BTFKD8LN7&keywords=topping+E30&qid=1681164247&sprefix=topping+e%2Caps%2C331&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/TOPPING-L30II-NFCA-Linear-Headphone/dp/B0B7JHR1RC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2ZAFKU3INK27Z&keywords=topping%2Bl30&qid=1681164155&sprefix=topping%2Bl30%2Caps%2C332&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzSEU2OUZWSDMzSDQmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAyNjExMzgxN0QwVUVWTlNaQVRYJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0NjM1MzExQjlXN0dUNUdIT09PJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

These two?

[lean grove]

But you being new, and the 990s not being very demanding headphones, the zen dac will work fine.

Yes

[molten lotus]

though cursed, zen air + magni 3+ is better

[molten lotus]

i am a proud topping hater

ask me anything about their products and I will say I wont like them

👍

[molten lotus]

Either that or https://www.takealot.com/ifi-zen-dac-v2-award-wining-dac/PLID90123498?gclid=CjwKCAjw586hBhBrEiwAQYEnHbsikCKYbBb4oFa0NsqbvpamqsfMAiv5G4nv0jJ70E3R5Q4oqNtHcRoC69QQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

At least this is local though.

[molten lotus]

Lol

[molten lotus]

this is better

[molten lotus]

Lmao

[lean grove]

Klaus hates expensive things that don't have rgb

[molten lotus]

I noticed the 990 pro x is some sort of smaller xlr to mini xlr/instrument cable but I don't see a hole big enough for that? seems like it's just 3.5mm?

[lean grove]

Are you thinking of the 900 pro x?

[molten lotus]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09G777VG7/ref=ewc_pr_img_3?smid=A2RJQ91IHY4NS4&psc=1

These yeah

[lean grove]

Yeah. The mini XLR goes into the headphones.

It's detachable

[unique wind]

klaus fantasizes about exorbitantly expensive audio gear that measures horribly

[molten lotus]

i like avocadoes

[molten lotus]

I know, I'm asking whether this is 3.5mm as the cable has 2 ends which you can unscrew etc.

[unique wind]

avocados r fire

[molten lotus]

Is that a 6.35mm hole or 3.5?

[unique wind]

@molten lotus do you live in the united states?

[molten lotus]

South africa

[unique wind]

ah

[molten lotus]

@lean grove is the iFi Zen Dac a DAC/AMP?

yes

[molten lotus]

wdym

[molten lotus]

it measures fine actually

[molten lotus]

That's the other end of the 990 pro x cable.

you can unscrew that yeah

the 6.3 to 3.5

[buoyant vale]

idk what you're looking at

[molten lotus]

Doesn't that lower audio quality?

no

why would it

[molten lotus]

ik

its just metal that touches other metal to conduct things

[molten lotus]

...

[buoyant vale]

that goes in your amp yes

[molten lotus]

Yeah idk, thought it had to do with bandwidth or something.

So is that all connectivity that I'll need?

yes

also keep the switch on the back on the "variable" side as long as you are using the headphone outputs

for what would I use the RCA cables?

for outputting to speakers or to a dedicated amp if you decide to buy one in the future

in which case you connect to an amplifier, you should use the fixed output on the switch

Ah I see, thank you so much.

np

[unique wind]

if it aint harman treble i dont want it

1.5khz dips are heresy

[unique wind]

@molten lotus you would be weeping if you heard my speaker setup atm

[molten lotus]

probably

[unique wind]

there must be like a 30db <80hz boost from this sub

[molten lotus]

:)

[unique wind]

funny vibrations make the voices stop

[molten lotus]

990 pros vs 900 pro x?

880

[unique wind]

lmaooo look at the squiggly upper treble on the 990 @molten lotus

tinnitus initiation procedure

[molten lotus]

Did you mean 990?

no

I meant 880

[molten lotus]

id rather not tbh

impressive how well oratory unfucked the treble tbh

[unique wind]

+5-10 from 6khz-12khz is hifi

[unique wind]

he’s the goat i guess

[molten lotus]

These? Why them over 900prox?

[molten lotus]

because they sound good

Better than the 900prox?

yes

[unique wind]

how much do the 900 pro x cost for you

[molten lotus]

i can answer that

too much

[unique wind]

if you’re able to spend $260-300 there are many better options

[molten lotus]

About $50 more

tbh

that's not a whole lot more than the dt880's cost

hmm

Beyerdynamic imo looks amazing, there are some really wack looking headphones.

the build quality is a lot worse in reality for the dt770-990s

the images don't show it

dt770 is a sturdy headphone

but it feels so fucking flimsy

the plastic feels cheap

[tepid torrent]

DT880 is good, every other beyer isnt worth your money

[molten lotus]

it flails around like garbage

[tepid torrent]

Except like, tygr300r

[molten lotus]

honestly

dt900 doesn't look bad

[unique wind]

dt770 feels like it’d survive a terminal velocity fall but also feels cheap at the same time

[molten lotus]

dt700 on the other hand

lol

[unique wind]

schrodingers build quality

[molten lotus]

true

xs is also like that

feels really flimsy

yet there are little to no headband failures

[unique wind]

hifiman won’t give build quality more than $10 of budget until you’re spending $1200-2000

[molten lotus]

yeah

aryas have a nice headband

and from there on out you have the he1k susvaras and jades

So my best bet is either 880pro or 900prox?

[tepid torrent]

Hifiman qc is more of a problem than their build quality itself\

[molten lotus]

yes

Just getting in so J don’t want to get really high level stuff

[molten lotus]

agreed

[unique wind]

dt900 looks like it has pretty reasonable tuning

[molten lotus]

👍

how much does the dt900 cost for you btw static

https://sbrprosound.co.za/product/beyerdynamic-dt-900-pro-x/

R6895

R6895

$373

what in the fuck

like

dont

get hd560s or something

Think amazon would be a bit cheaper but I get better refund etc local

[molten lotus]

Nah what

[unique wind]

sennheiser hd560s stomps pretty much every headphone under $200

[molten lotus]

he400se competes with it

[unique wind]

if you eq yah

[molten lotus]

it competes without eq either

has far better clarity layering and resolution than hd560s

by stock

[unique wind]

idk man it’s really not enjoyable stock

[molten lotus]

if you value those more

well if you prioritize bass then yeah i can see that

but it holds its ground regarding what it does well

[unique wind]

there’s very poor clarity because it has a -7db scoop in the lower treble

[molten lotus]

its 7dB?

[unique wind]

but with eq it’s great

[molten lotus]

seems its 7dB yeah

more than I remembered

[unique wind]

it’s extremely noticeable

[molten lotus]

yeah definitely noticeable at 7dB

lol

[unique wind]

there’s no center image at all and vocals sound muffled and boxy

[molten lotus]

I dont mind spending that much for the beyers if I get a really good product.

you don't

better to get an r70x or something

560’s are $216

you can get them second hand for dirt cheap

why

that's a lot more than what it normally costs

[unique wind]

i wish he400se had the suspension headband because they’d feel like you’re not wearing headphones at all

[molten lotus]

South africa

lol

[unique wind]

they’re confusingly lightweight but the headband sux

[molten lotus]

honestly

may as well go for hd560s

save yourself some money

👍

r70x $300

[molten lotus]

Eh

that's a pretty decent price actually

r70x is generally 350$

did its price decrease or something

or are you looking at refurbished items

https://soundselect.co.za/studio-and-recording-1/studio-headphones-250/audio-technica-ath-r70x/

[tepid torrent]

I feel like it doesnt because the treble feels kind of gritty in comparison to the HD560s

[molten lotus]

Looks new

What sound quality difference between the senn’s and the Beyer’s?

beyer generally images very well but sounds a bit hollow

hd560s images worse but generally better musical performance

good mids and nice bass response

For gaming?

dt900 better

beyer imaging is stupid good

r70x images better though

[tepid torrent]

R70x does get worse with better amps apparently

[molten lotus]

that's entirely false

who said that

[tepid torrent]

People

[molten lotus]

r70x gets a lot better with good amps

without a proper amplifier the entire midrange is hazy

[tepid torrent]

The treble grain gets more noticeable

[molten lotus]

Alr, music?

i think your mates have bad amplifiers

r70x scales a fuck ton

the treble gets less grainier

the stage gets less hazier

and the far-stage barely exists without a good amplifier which helps it exists because it clears up the haze

[molten lotus]

r70x imo

eq cope helps with it a bit

but id take uneq'd r70x too

[unique wind]

you have a phd in pseudoscience

[molten lotus]

you have a phd in not having listened to actual gear

ever

[unique wind]

i have the best ears objectively

[molten lotus]

(objectively)

true true

though I am not certain about recommending r70x without a good amplifier honestly

Pretty sure anything I get will be better than the logitech g pro headset lol

r70x off of a shitty amplifier sounded like ass to me

if dt900 does well without a decent amplifier

honestly it might have better musical performance

though r70x will still image better

[unique wind]

probably because it has no supplemental frequencies at all

subbass and upper treble go bye bye

[molten lotus]

upper treble yeah

but sub bass is very much there idk what you on about

you are probably looking at graphs without targets

the midbass bump makes it look like the sub bass is falling off

there is fall of but, pretty alright fall off

[unique wind]

what is going on with that channel imbalance up top

[molten lotus]

don't ask

if this headphone had properly functioning treble

it would honestly

slap a fuck ton

ong

[unique wind]

ong

[molten lotus]

Also, looking at the mv7x rn, any other recommendations?

looks like a cheap sm7b copy

which is already shit

idk

[unique wind]

mv7x is booty cheeks

[molten lotus]

i wouldn't

[molten lotus]

Really??

[unique wind]

yessir

[molten lotus]

does shure have good mics

Any other recommendations as its fuck expensive

everything they make seems to be shit on by every other mic any company makes

[unique wind]

i think they have some small condensers that are nice but expensive

[molten lotus]

at every price bracket

[molten lotus]

xm8500

this mic is perfect

if you don't know what you are doing

[unique wind]

i think markiplier uses one actually

[molten lotus]

Nah I thought shure was good bc of every streamer lmao

it takes like

0.1 seconds to tell if someone is using an sm7b

no other mic is that fucking muffled

i listen to podcast

i hear sm7b

i turn off podcast

[unique wind]

podcasts be like

take sm7b

[molten lotus]

100-500hz freq response range

[unique wind]

put 120hz high pass and 10khz low pass in post

[molten lotus]

anything else human eye can't see

[molten lotus]

That’s like, in my eyes to cheap to be good? My budget is like 6k my currency so $350 for mic and some sort of audio interface.

we already established 30hz is maximum for human eye

no need for 10000hz

[molten lotus]

well you are wrong

good sounding mics come super cheap

[unique wind]

the goal is to sound like the microphone built into a $50 vhs tape recorder

nostalgia

[molten lotus]

mics have the poorest price/performance ratio scaling ever

you spend like 100$ for minor differences

for different sound

not necessarily good different sound either

just different most of the time

given you aren't buying like a 5 channel autism mic

or need super low self noise for some reason

AT2040?

don't buy mics you don't know how to use

I recommended xm8500 because even a coconut can use it without knowing jackshit

If you have the mandatory 8iq requirement you can use an xm8500

you can also go listen to voice demos on the internet

[molten lotus]

Doesn’t take many brain cells no?

[molten lotus]

It just looks horrid

[molten lotus]

It needs setup to get rid of background noises

there are like a million people out there who buy random condensers and give people real time room ambient noise asmrs

because they don't know how to set up a decent noise gate

or a good noise gate which I also can't

At2040 sounds miles better than the MV7 at a third of the price.

Is it a good buy?

better than mv7 yeah

mv7 is shit anyways

Really, why do all streamers use the sm7b? I mean it does sound great.

it sounds muffled as fuck

any post 50$ condenser should sound a ton better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctgZB4S-jz0

watch the first minute and tell me if you can hear a difference

xm sounds deeper where shure sounds lighter

@molten lotus What audio interface?

m track solo

[molten lotus]

well spotted

Also should I get a cloudlifter?

no

but you tell me

do you think the difference is worth 500$

sm7b is 400 but cloud lifter is like another 100 at least

[molten lotus]

Def not. Ill prob get the AT2040 https://youtu.be/2-rn-rV5Rrw 4:30 he compares them.

m solo vs scarlett solo?

you are going to be assaulted by background noise

but sure, go ahead

[molten lotus]

m track is a lot better

focusrite is sm7b levels of overrated

[molten lotus]

Hm

What other mics then? I want a streamer mic look

[molten lotus]

Oh damn alright

Oh nice the m solo offers a instrument line

[wispy zephyr]

can you compare me the creative aurvana live vs the turtle beach recon 500?

[molten lotus]

What other microphones do y’all recommend?

[molten lotus]

they don't even deserve being compared

turtle beach bro

[weak rapids]

considering you're looking for Dynamic, XM8500

[molten lotus]

if I were to call turtle beach an actual joke it would come off as if I am making a joke

but it's an actual joke in circulation

[weak rapids]

i got it to sound almost identical to my sm7b with literal amateur level EQing in OBS

[molten lotus]

he wasn't but that's the best for him too imo

Dynamic doesn’t pick up sounds as easily, have a fan and or ac running almost all the time so I might get a lot of background noise.

[molten lotus]

that's the exact reason why you should get a dynamic

lol

Yep

[weak rapids]

and honestly, ive grown to like the aesthetic of handheld mics as a pc mic

[lost tusk]

Hi I have like 50-80 usd and need a mic for content creation and streaming

Preferably on a mic arm

[wispy zephyr]

What about some headphones without a mic that have a good quality under 100$?

[molten lotus]

the ones i recommend the last time you asked

[wispy zephyr]

Can you awnser the message? I can't find it oor

Oof*

[wispy zephyr]

If it was the akg models, they're over 100$

[weak rapids]

tis a sad day

the hd560s is being returned and I am buying a new pair cause why not, if I received a defective unit then I get a good one, if I didnt then all that happens is I end up living with creaking noise

but now I have to go back to my Razer Naris until its returned...

[wispy zephyr]

@lean grove sorry to bother you again but what do you think about steelseries arctis 1 mic vs the fifine mic?

[lean grove]

find a mic test on youtube

theres lots of them

[wispy zephyr]

Can't find anything online and trying to see if it's worth the 30 bucks against the already installed mic on the headset

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/iOCqkldhhRE
https://youtu.be/TPesZBbGGBY?t=231

took me all of 4 seconds

the k670 is gonna be close enough to the k669 or whatever

its the same stuff just the newer version might be a bit better

[wispy zephyr]

Yeah but I'm not sure if I will be able to see the difference between 2 different videos

[lean grove]

have you watched the two different videos?

[wispy zephyr]

No, I will see now

[wispy zephyr]

what is the difference between the fifine k669 and the k670?

[lean grove]

not a whole lot

theres probably a lot of reviews out there which answer that exact question

[molten lotus]

my beloved

[molten lotus]

i daily a pair and i think they're built well

meanwhile my kph30is feel like a bunch of taped together toothpicks

[tepid torrent]

kph30i sounds good tho

[molten lotus]

they're alright

[tepid torrent]

better than the DT770 anyway

[molten lotus]

i like my 770s more

i like the detail but for earbuds and iems i'm the opposite

my kz zst x lately has been too harsh so i use either my kbear stellars or ksearphone nameless which are warm as hell

mx500 shell too, classic

grew up with earbuds like that

it makes my beloved zune even more based

[molten lotus]

though for a few particular songs they're better

most of the time my kph30i just live on my imac

[tepid torrent]

I find the DT770 to just have a very wonky tuning

[molten lotus]

flat enough for me

[tepid torrent]

They arent really flat

[molten lotus]

i wanna try 990s but idk if i'll like them or not

i can't just go to a store and try either bc i'm in the middle of absolutely nowhere

[tepid torrent]

They look alright

much better tuned than the dt770

[molten lotus]

ig its all personal preference lol

like with my damn KZ, i used to like them but now they've become too harsh, maybe they're not sealing well, who knows

IEMs irritate my ears anyays, i like the older earbuds from back in the day more

[tepid torrent]

kz is too harsh?

zst x right

[molten lotus]

yeah, my kbear stellars are too a little bit

maybe my ears just changed or something

[tepid torrent]

Funny that you find the kz harsh but the dt770 not

[molten lotus]

i like headphones with alot of upper detail but earbuds not so much, apparently

maybe its just been the music i've been listening to lately lol

[molten lotus]

I have a question.
My setup is LG tv with LG soundbar.
If I connect nvidia shield to sound bar then sound bar arc to TV, the sound bar shows HDMI on the LED, and plays the ATMOS from the shield.

If I connect SHIELD to tv, then arc to the Sound bard, the LED shows Dolby atmos then ARC, and also plays normally.

In the first case the sound is also atmos? Is there a correct way to connect this?

[molten lotus]

990 prox have good tuning?

• all other things that make a headset good Ig

[dry stratus]

880 > 990, 990 is just 880 but worse

[molten lotus]

oh sorry i meant the 900 prox

these

[dry stratus]

do not have personal experience with those, all I know is multiple have said DT 900 is better than 990 at least (idk if that is their opinion or actually true tho)

[tepid torrent]

I mean you should probably get the dt880 because that is much more well tuned

[severe hare]

dt880 is 3x the money of 900/990

[molten lotus]

This the right pair?

[severe hare]

you will need a amp for that >D

[molten lotus]

ik

So are those better than the 900 prox?

Their cheaper than the 900 prox but look worse

[severe hare]

880 are the top tier if iam not mistaken

[dry stratus]

900 is different from 990, many say its an improvement
And as 880 is just 990 with slightly less severe issues, idk

[molten lotus]

He won't

[tender frost]

Nope

[severe hare]

How not?

Iam newbie ngl. But above 80 ohms isnt needed an amp?

[violet heron]

250ohms isn't that high

[tender frost]

You need to look at both sensitivity and impedance

[severe hare]

Ahm.. alright

[weak rapids]

Bro fuck amazon

I returned some headphones and Canada post says it was delivered on the 4th, mofo amazon saying they still havent got it

Warehouse is only like a 20min drive i should go there myself lol

[unique wind]

pull up

[weak rapids]

Like I want to return my hd560s also and get a new pair without creaking but amazon be pullin this shit

[unique wind]

i wouldn’t be surprised if all copies have creaking

can’t have perfect sound and build quality for $160

[weak rapids]

True but when razer headphones aint got creaking but sennheiser somethins up lol

[tender frost]

Yeah cause razer spends all their budget on the build and none on the sound quality

There's always tradeoffs at lower price points

[weak rapids]

I have been thinking of trying the 900 pro x

However my experience with the 990 pro was awful

[unique wind]

if you still own the 990 you could eq the bad treble out of them

oratory1990 has eq profiles for a ton of headphones

equalizerapo is a goated program

[molten lotus]

the more you eq the worse

the less you eq the better

[unique wind]

silence fearmongerer

[molten lotus]

go for it tbh

sell the dt990s

get a refund for hd560s

cop an edition xs

[weak rapids]

Nah I returned then 4 days after having

[summer flicker]

the beyer grift continues

idk how they do it

marketing is scary

[weak rapids]

Id just like a pair that isnt a constant bother creaking lol

I love hyperfixation

[molten lotus]

if its only one side

then you might as well try taking advantage of it

[weak rapids]

Might just use some silicone spray

[molten lotus]

shoot at the hinges with a gun

[unique wind]

soak the headphones in motor oil

[tender frost]

That'll lubricate the drivers so they can have higher excursion and therefore produce more bass

[molten lotus]

is there a significant difference while gaming between dt770 pro‘s and dt990 pro‘s?

[dry stratus]

Get 880 instead

[molten lotus]

also any opinions on the Fox? looking for new tech

[dry stratus]

880 > 990 > 770

[molten lotus]

alright

why is that?

[dry stratus]

770 has the most issues, 990 is just 880 but with slightly more severe issues

Otherwise the same

[molten lotus]

ill look into it

is the Fox any good? for a mic

[molten lotus]

i already have an amp since my old 80 ohm headsets werent quite loud enough, but which version do u recommend then?

[molten lotus]

What issues?

[unique wind]

poor frequency response tuning

it can be fixed with eq but the sennheiser hd560s is the same price and doesnt require eq

[dry stratus]

Can be fixed, but why when 880 exists

[molten lotus]

@unique wind do you remember that 200-500$ mic arm

the one that you adjust to a positiom

and when you press a button on it, the arm winds itself up moving to a position where it doesn't obstruct anything

and when you press it again it moves back to the position it was in

it was expensive af

[unique wind]

i don’t remember that

sounds cool though

what the hell man the schiit ragnarok does 24w per channel into 32ohm with its balanced headphone output

speaker amp being used for headphones moment

[molten lotus]

why though

[unique wind]

schiit engineers were up to a little no good

[lean grove]

It's almost enough to power the he400se correctly.

[unique wind]

how much would you say is optimal?

[lean grove]

About one more watt than you'll ever have.

[unique wind]

seems about right

stacking schiit modius and topping a90d would be very cursed but objectively good

[lean grove]

Check the measurements and see if they are even capable of stacking

[unique wind]

they don’t align perfectly no

but you can force it to work

[lean grove]

🤨

[cobalt mountain]

well found out why this 58 was dead 💀

the module wasn't wired up

[tender frost]

Sounds just like the emotiva basx a-100

With some jumpers inside you can wire the rear speaker out directly to the front headphone jack, bypassing all the resistors and stuff that'd normally be in the way

[iron cipher]

Heyyoo guys does some of you know how to spot a fake sm7b ?

[lean grove]

https://pwpg.s3.amazonaws.com/videos/t3_luf4q7.mp4

[cobalt mountain]

I can take a crack, send a photo ig

if not, I know someone who can

[tender frost]

Impressive that they managed to last that long lmao

[iron cipher]

because I want to buy a used one, and there are some on sale on my local craigslist around 180$ and I would like to know how to spot the fakes

[cobalt mountain]

ohh

[iron cipher]

and that's the thing lol

i don't own one

but i want to and i know it's fricking hard

to spot the fake

from what i've saw

like only the sound quality change

[cobalt mountain]

I'd just check them against the actual listing on sweetwater, and make sure it's legit

[lean grove]

Don't buy from weird places

[cobalt mountain]

and if you just want a good quality mic just go and buy a new sm57

or a 58

[lean grove]

Or don't

[iron cipher]

i'm buying it used

[cobalt mountain]

i use a 57 every day

[iron cipher]

not brand new

[lean grove]

It's not meant for vocals and inefficient as hell

[cobalt mountain]

i can't really help ya there, I thought you meant you had one

[iron cipher]

shet

[lean grove]

Too many people buy these Shure meme mics and wind up spending an extra $100-$200 more than they have to on pre-amps and cloud lifters and then EQ it to all hell to get it listenable.

[cobalt mountain]

it can be used for vocals, i just use it at my pc because its small and i've never had one break

[lean grove]

There's better mics out there.

[cobalt mountain]

there's no reason to use a studio mic for your pc 😂

[lean grove]

You're right. But if someone wants nice sound quality at a decent price, Shure sm7b or the sm57 are not good recommendations.

Sm58 is getting a side-eye from me too

[iron cipher]

oh and btw i've got like a 200$ m audio fast track c600 do u think that's good for like a sm7b ?

it got like phantom power and stuff for the mic

[lean grove]

I have my doubts that you'll have the gain you want for the sm7b

[iron cipher]

ah shet

from what i've saw and on the google it works fine together

[lean grove]

It might. The c600 has some chunk to it.

If you have access to digital gain and a compressor, it'll probably work

[iron cipher]

yeah, got one brand new for like 40$ and it's a monster

[lean grove]

But. On its own. Just pure simple hardware. The sm7b is a real bitch to work with.

[iron cipher]

the control panel for it got plenty of shit

https://seven.slept-with-your.mom/?f=Panel_ChBJgUkYS5.png

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[iron cipher]

yea ik

that's what i've heard

the sm7b is a pain in the ass to get working

with a good quality

anyway so there isn't anyway to spot a fake sm7b ?

[lean grove]

Probably but I don't know if I could spot a fake.

[iron cipher]

and does the fake one have a great sound quality ? or you wouldn't even consider it ?

[lean grove]

I don't think the real one has great sound quality

[iron cipher]

lmao wut ?

i mean i've heard it

and it sound great

[lean grove]

.

[iron cipher]

like man rn i'm doing with a bird um1 which hasn't been turn off in more than 6 years

[lean grove]

There are lots of mics which are cheaper that sound better for vocals that don't need an extra $200 in hardware to sound passing.

Heck I'd take the xm8500 and pocket the $300

[iron cipher]

i don't need to spend an extra 200$ for it

tho

like i've found that one for a 170$ used but look sus
does this looks legit ?

https://img.leboncoin.fr/api/v1/lbcpb1/images/30/62/ac/3062ac3965e5361fe30a9a4d71f23bc1edd1e20f.jpg?rule=ad-large

https://img.leboncoin.fr/api/v1/lbcpb1/images/57/e7/f0/57e7f0418d11a3b0814d14d3c889fdcf2f2ba5fc.jpg?rule=ad-large

https://img.leboncoin.fr/api/v1/lbcpb1/images/36/d6/49/36d649f3eeb30772f8638f10905a0bee405fc940.jpg?rule=ad-large

https://img.leboncoin.fr/api/v1/lbcpb1/images/8e/e5/7f/8ee57f8acfb5a19f5950919579d8bb9033c3ea62.jpg?rule=ad-large

[molten lotus]

really doesn't man

it sounds boomy and muffled

id take and random condenser amazon recommends me post 50$ over it and likely achieve better sound

[iron cipher]

like i've said i come from a bird um1

[molten lotus]

therefore you must buy 400$ items that sound terrible?

um1 doesn't even sound that bad either

I think you just don't like your voice

[iron cipher]

nah my friend told me and i see it mine is dying lol

it's been like 6 years that it has been on and almost never turned off

[molten lotus]

in the case of a malfunction yes I can see it sounding bad

but a functioning one sounds perfectly fine

[iron cipher]

it's not sounding like bad

[molten lotus]

have you ever compared sm7b to your own mic

I think you would be surprised by the results

[iron cipher]

but i need to be really close to the mic for it to capture my voice

[molten lotus]

that's normal for mics

and that's even more extreme with sm7b

sm7b needs to be right in front of your mouth to work

contrary to sensitive condensers

sm7b needs to be exceptionally close to your mouth compared to other microphones

[iron cipher]

idk that's not what i saw, like last time i was watching a shorts on youtube, it was about a podcast

and saw the dude was far from the sm7b and it was still going

like he was really far

[iron cipher]

and it's not like 400$

i can get one for 180$

used

[molten lotus]

it sounds worse than a 50$ condenser so what is the point

still 3 times the price of what it should be

not to mention almost no interfaces have strong enough gain to actually power it

meaning you need a cloud lifter

and that is at least an additional 100-200$

[iron cipher]

from what i've saw my sound card does the job

for the sm7b

[molten lotus]

even if it does

its still a bad mic

straight up

[unique wind]

i need an amp that can handle high power low impedance loads without shitting itself

so nothing made by schiit

[iron cipher]

so what would you recommand ?

[molten lotus]

if you are chasing audio quality

c1

can also pick up sounds from farther

[iron cipher]

tf is a c1 ?

[molten lotus]

a microphone

[iron cipher]

ik

but what brand ?

[molten lotus]

i mean when you write c1 mic it shows you the mic

but behringer if you must know

[iron cipher]

yea already saw that one but meh idk

[haughty girder]

idk I actually think it's a very low noise safe mic

[molten lotus]

yes

400$ for low noise

[haughty girder]

Issue is just sm57 for 99% of people is as good or better

given sm7b uses a similar capsule

But being recessed so far it makes it very picky with positioning

So in most cases it sounds like garbage because it isn't used. properly

If you want a broadcast style mic, just either mod an xm8500 or get an mv7x

the other very safe dynamic mic is se v7

but I'm a fan of this

https://darksideofthemic.co.uk/post/649454811868217344/blog-turning-the-the-xm8500-into-a-mini-sm7b

[iron cipher]

yeah the mv7x is good

my cousin asked me for some help building his setup and i've recommended him the mv7x which is incredible

but the thing is that i would love to own a sm7b and that's the thing with the low noise, like for me the sound quality is like crystal clear !

[wispy zephyr]

@lean grove sorry for mentioning you again but what do you think of maybe another mic? the one that you recommend me has a low noise suppression filter which is a big problem as there is a lot of background noise on my setup/house

[weak rapids]

Why go for mv7 when the xm8500 exists

[iron cipher]

cuz it's more of like a stage mic than a podcast one or stuff like that

[haughty girder]

xm8500 needs a few more things to sound good

Mv7x is just grab plug in and go

and is built better

[weak rapids]

If by that you mean simple eq then ig so

[haughty girder]

if you're really nit-picky, xm8500 doesn't handle the lower frequencies that well

Mv7x is much more detailed in both ends of frequencies

But xm8500 is plenty for most people

[haughty girder]

nono

Xm8500 for one needs a pop filter

[weak rapids]

I mean k thats an extra $5

[haughty girder]

Depends

Circular pop filters I hate sm

nylon ones aren't actually that great for sound wise

again this is all nit picking

[weak rapids]

I got a windscreen for mine that actually came with a really cheap mic arm and it worked fine

[haughty girder]

but audio is one of those things that price for quality rises exponentially

[haughty girder]

yep it'll be "fine" but not great

Best ones are a quality foam one which deflect air, yet do have have their own sound for the most part. Pond water filters unironically work amazing for this

again, for most people xm8500 is fine

but if you're say, recording a guitar or bass amp, something higher end like sm57 or even Mv7x (not made for it) will handle it much better than the xm8500

[ocean pulsar]

name something that doesnt exhibit that behavior...

[molten lotus]

xm8500s point is being something that even an oaf can use it

it works good out of the box, even if you are incredibly incompetent you can use that mic

[violet heron]

is there any meaningful difference between the sm57 and sm58

[weak rapids]

no

only difference is sm58 has that really small windscreen on it of which even with it you should get an aftermarket one

[haughty girder]

I know!!! stationary... within reason ofc

but audio is one that's niche enough that it starts much sooner than most other things relative to entry (not garbage tier) cost

You get my point

don't even try to argue technicalities. I know this place enough that any further explanation serves no purpose but to waste time because nobody actually really cares

[unique wind]

but big box with buttons and switches makes the voices go away

[unique wind]

don’t mention the word distortion or the term frequency response or klaus will have an aneurysm

[haughty girder]

wasn't going to

[unique wind]

he doesn’t want to hear about sinad or usb jitter or dynamic range

headphones aren’t a safe topic either, don’t even think about saying group delay or thd

[cobalt sparrow]

you just did

@molten lotus

[inland bobcat]

rode procaster or broadcastor

[wispy zephyr]

Can you guys give me a mic recommendation for a budget of 100$? Preferably good noise suppresion as my house is very loud

[covert kite]

did you ever pick the headphones

[wispy zephyr]

what did you recommend

[covert kite]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1013789640093876226/1040220376816418916/togif.gif

i gave you three good choices

and you ignored them 💔

[wispy zephyr]

i forgot

what you recommended

the only good ones that you recommend were the corsair hs80 and they are like 120$ rn

[covert kite]

comes with a mic though

[wispy zephyr]

i know

[dry stratus]

those aren't good tho .-.

[haughty moon]

There's nothing corsair I would consider good

[molten lotus]

their liquid coolers are the cheapest

which is nice

[haughty moon]

I mean their audio stuff

[dry stratus]

those suck tho

[molten lotus]

they are fine

really

[dry stratus]

and cost 2-3x better AIOs

[haughty moon]

They have some great psu and cases ... and that's about it

[molten lotus]

unless you are overclocking the fuck out of your cpu

[dry stratus]

Liquid freezer II, LS/LT720 for AIO

[molten lotus]

you can generally cool down everything below 95c

[dry stratus]

liquid freezer II is 75-85$ for a 360/420mm AIO and performs better

[haughty moon]

Well a deepcool ak620 has superior cooling capabilities than 240mm corsair liquid cooler

[dry stratus]

most 360mm AIOs, perform equal to a 240mm of the better and cheaper AIOs

[haughty moon]

If you get a corsair aio it's the same reason than if you get an nzxt aio ... the look

[dry stratus]

brand more so

[haughty moon]

That too

[dry stratus]

or the display

[haughty moon]

Like you already have enough icue stuff and you don't want another software

[dry stratus]

look wise, corsair is imho one of the worst...
massive branding

[haughty moon]

I like the look of the phanteks glacier aio

[dry stratus]

rip, imagine having corsair's terrible noise normalized performance

[haughty moon]

Totally ... well I guess with other fans it might be better

[dry stratus]

tfw 50db yet still worse performance than a T30 at like 39db

corsair has some of the worst AIOs, just because their fans are some of the worst in performance on top of being a generic type AIO

[haughty moon]

Sadly yes

[dry stratus]

have phanteks make a T30 AIO but without the asetek stuff

considering T30 swap on an NZXT AIO already drops the temps by 6-8'C noise normalized

[haughty moon]

I have a feeling that the p12 on my lfII are holding it back a bit ... they ate good for the noise output but I feel like they miss some high rpm at some point

[dry stratus]

P12 actually performs pretty poorly on rads

its a good airflow fan, but performs pretty bad for static pressure

so... probably

[haughty moon]

Well I got the fk120 and intend to swap the p12 for them

[dry stratus]

push pull T30 when

[haughty moon]

I don't have the space for that sadly ... nor do I have the money for 6 t30

[dry stratus]

you don't have 200$ for fans?

[haughty moon]

Not really

[median frigate]

what does this do? audio taper?

[unique wind]

i’ve never seen that before

[molten lotus]

hey, i just got the beyerdnamic fox for my gaming setup and its extremely sensitive u basically hear the grass grow outside, how do i go around that?

[molten lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9byP4VSJQiE

what the fuck is this person saying

[dry stratus]

its chrono

the most normie of the bunch

I always just close the page when he's the one reviewing it

[molten lotus]

this is the most schizophrenic reviewer I have ever seen in my entire life

"when I think of the 150$ mark I think of things like akg k371, hd58x or the he400se from hifiman, and for me the technical performance of the dt770 pro far outshines the performance of any of those headphones and I would deem it closer in performance to something like the hd600 series and the hifiman sundaras"

@summer flicker how does this comparison make you feel

[dry stratus]

I would change it to "when I think of the 150$ mark I think of things like HD560s and HE400se, and for me the technical performance is fine, but the tuning is dogshit"

HD58x, please no

he says its good but look at the dips he's showing

[dry stratus]

https://youtu.be/9byP4VSJQiE?t=550

[unique wind]

it’s honestly easier to fix than the 880 or 990 are

[dry stratus]

"a slight dip around 4k, and has fantastic tuning"

[unique wind]

like it’s not ideal but it’s not that far off

[molten lotus]

only the treble

[unique wind]

nah the bass and mids are easier to fix

[molten lotus]

how

[molten lotus]

can i even adjust that with like, voicemeeter?

[molten lotus]

no

[unique wind]

it’s just the one dip at 200hz that’s easy to fill in with eq

[molten lotus]

what needs "fixing"

dt880 is already linear as fuck

treble is the only part that needs attention

and the slight roll off

[unique wind]

making a fine line shelf from 100 to 500hz is more annoying

than a 200hz fill in

[molten lotus]

it isn't

the more you eq

the worse driver performance gets

the less you eq the better

[unique wind]

fear mongering

[molten lotus]

cope mongering

[unique wind]

eq is only damaging if youre running into distortion or making weird resonances

which might happen if you try to fix that 4k dip

which is probably why nobody does

[molten lotus]

you can't eq out peaks

that is why no one touches it

similar to why you don't understand how eq damages audio

there is a detrimental effect to everything

there are qualities to headphones outside of frequency response and distortion

if there wasn't any 20$ iem we bought would be peak performance

just tune it to harman

sundara > susvara

you need to understand the limits of eq

[weak rapids]

Audiophiles are the leaders of the star wars universe

[molten lotus]

what do i do then?

for others with the same mic it aint like this

do you have static

no

or do you have lots of background noise

no

well what is it then

but i hear every noise

so you have background noise?

oh if that is what u meant xd

yeah

mouse clicking , keyboard, breathing

anything tbh

[weak rapids]

Idk if im remembering this right but did someone unironically suggest the rode podcaster last night

[molten lotus]

sounds about right

honestly

the people who you listened to probably used a noise gate

[unique wind]

i’m really surprised that oratory was able to fix some of audeze’s garbage heap headphones

like the lcdx

lcd-2>>>>>>>>

[molten lotus]

can i make it so it doesnt pick up those noises?