#audio-tech

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unique wind
nocturne plaza
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christ what's all that used for

unique wind
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i don’t know

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nobody knows why that guy bought so many jotunheims

ocean pulsar
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prolly because they kept making revisions to fix schiit bugs lel

nocturne plaza
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I don't even know what they are and do 😭

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I'm interested in audio though I'm intrigued to learn about it

unique wind
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bifrost and modius are DAC units which take the music files on your computer and turn them into real electricity signals

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jotunheim is an amplifier which boosts that signal and sends it to your headphones

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no idea why he has 4 of the same amplifier though

unique wind
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unless he was getting them for free why would he keep buying them

tender frost
ocean pulsar
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you can also get them with usb and dacs or something

unique wind
nocturne plaza
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I thought they'd be used for like PA

unique wind
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yeah there are some huge headphone amps

tender frost
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Some headphones like it when you give them more power

unique wind
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we like big metal boxes with knobs and switches they’re fun

nocturne plaza
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Lmaooo

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So is it like redstone where the signal fades? Lmao

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such an analogy

ocean pulsar
ocean pulsar
unique wind
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you need a thicker gauge cable to send more power over a longer distance but that’s never gonna be a concern with headphones

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that’s more a speaker thing

nocturne plaza
molten lotus
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how to kill someone with sound

ocean pulsar
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sound energy is just a different type of energy, and some headphones are really inefficient at converting from electricity to sound

molten lotus
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apart from using michaels mom's moans

unique wind
molten lotus
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would it even work

unique wind
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i dunno

ocean pulsar
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depends on the amp

unique wind
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if i had to guess i would say that PA speakers and concert speakers are extremely efficient

molten lotus
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how can i make an active sonar to kill someone

unique wind
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and low ohm

ocean pulsar
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extremely efficient yes
low ohm most certainly not

molten lotus
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what was carmon's prefix for research

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!c how to kill someone with sound

unique wind
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what db do you need to stop someone’s heart

molten lotus
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you kill them with pressure before that

ocean pulsar
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thats what sound is

unique wind
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yeah i could’ve said spl and it’d be the same

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how loud does it need to be to stop ur heart

molten lotus
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it destroys your brain first

nocturne plaza
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I’m loving watching this convo

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Actually brilliant

molten lotus
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200dB I know you die at

unique wind
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from what i’m reading sounds in the 170-200db range are loud enough to cause pulmonary embolisms or burst your lungs

ocean pulsar
unique wind
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and over 240db will make your head explode

molten lotus
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so i need diy solutions

nocturne plaza
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Isn’t it like double the loudness every 3db

molten lotus
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skill issue on my part

unique wind
molten lotus
unique wind
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it can take as much as 6-10db to perceive it as doubled

molten lotus
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the scale differs by volume level

nocturne plaza
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Interesting

unique wind
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ears are stupid

molten lotus
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I wouldn't buy those myself

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hunt for he1k if you have that much

past void
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Does anyone have recs for cool looking cd players

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Just needs rca out on it

prisma mesa
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I'm very much a noob to all of this but I'm quite curious; How do in-person podcasts isolate audio so well? For example the WAN show, Linus & Luke are right next to each other live and it sounds so good!

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I assume some of it has to do with the microphone but idk if that's the whole story

molten lotus
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its the mic mostly

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or entirely

weak rapids
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Awe damn theres a bit of creaking in my hd560s headband mechanism

tepid torrent
weak rapids
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recently

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I have also had it for like only 2 weeks

tepid torrent
# weak rapids recently

It shouldnt really be a problem as thats just kinda how they are with how they are built, my 650 has a bit of creak if you bend it

sudden epoch
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I think this is good for M40s?

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But I ain't a full on audiophile, just going off my regular ass ears

tepid torrent
unreal compass
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These any good?

dry stratus
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Unlikely

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Yep… seems like usual sony garbage with too much bass

ornate blaze
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They’re probably fine - Sony (at least used to) stamp model numbers with XB to denote “extra bass” for their gear which competed with the beats stuff

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I had a pair of Sonys which I can’t find the damn model number of fully but they had 700 in the model number, they were possibly an older version of those and they were fine

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Edit: was looking at the wrong thing 😄

dry stratus
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they all muddy pieces of shit

ornate blaze
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I don’t think you’ve listened to much hardware to come out with that

cinder flax
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But it's also true that Sony can do the exact opposite of bass-y. The LinkBuds and LinkBuds S are the perfect example for that

ornate blaze
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I have Wf1000xm3 and wh1000xm3, neither are boomy or too bassy

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They can deliver deep bass, it isn’t overdone

cinder flax
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I find the WH-XM3s a bit too much for daily use. And I do enjoy a bit of emphasis on the Bass. The Bose QC35 continue to be my fav pair for on the go

ornate blaze
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Gosh, constructive comments vs “they’re shit”

cinder flax
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I never said they're garbo. I'm just not personally a friend of how most Sony's sound...

ornate blaze
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I know you didn’t say that

ornate blaze
summer flicker
ornate blaze
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That would be a bad day

summer flicker
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i mean you would not see the end of it because you'd have no head

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it's funny to think that the loudest recorded noise is a clicking noise

ornate blaze
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Hahaha

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That is amusing actually

molten lotus
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Instead of conpin I think you yourself hasn't listened to enough hardware to come to this conclusion

summer flicker
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the clicking of the whales

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may be one of the most dangerous animals ever

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their click will inadvertently kill you even when youre not that close

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and they click frequently

molten lotus
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ofc everyone knows 10dB bass boost shelf is not boomy

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:^))))

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especially when it bleeds into the mids

ornate blaze
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Carry on as you are

summer flicker
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boominess usually comes from the bass to mid transition and not the bass itself although i think you need signifcant bass for it to bleed into the midrange to begin with. xm3 both has significant bass and a bad bass to mid transition

molten lotus
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it has a fuck ton of high bass

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170hz with 5dB is not fine

ornate blaze
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Gosh

summer flicker
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yeah its too much

ornate blaze
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Gosh

molten lotus
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you know something is wrong when rting's target says its too bassy

ornate blaze
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Gosh

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Unless you like it

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Then it’s fine 🙂

summer flicker
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youre allowed to like bad things correct

molten lotus
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'Gosh, constructive comments vs “they’re good”'

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-anonymous internet user circa 2023

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constructive criticism is needed as long as you are arguing against me and aren't me

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:^)

ornate blaze
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That isn’t my stance Klaus

molten lotus
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they are shit and I am pretty sure he has used them before

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conpin is a hifi nerd

ornate blaze
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Ok, but that wasn’t stated

molten lotus
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yeah you presumed it

ornate blaze
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You are presuming

molten lotus
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I don't, I know conpin

ornate blaze
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Everyone is presuming

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So?

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You’re presuming about me

summer flicker
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hes saying there was no clarification so he just dismissed it. In truth instead of dismissing it you could have just asked why

molten lotus
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if you can say xm3's are good then that says enough about your standards to know where you stand

ornate blaze
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I think someone should try a product instead of relying on someone’s comments because they might actually like them

molten lotus
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I have

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it's bad

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so is xm5

ornate blaze
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I don’t believe you

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😄

molten lotus
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even if I am lying the frequency response which is objective information is publicly available

ornate blaze
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I think you like conpin and you’re just saying this to argue for the sake of it

molten lotus
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and it is by research shitty

ornate blaze
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You’re arguing a very strange point here

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But carry on, I’ll leave you to it

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I hope the original question asker finds headphones he enjoys

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Sorry to have offended

molten lotus
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I am stating is, even if I were to be lying like you proclaim, the headphone is objectively shitty according to actual research in the field by harman

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you might not like harman but other research also remains

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all of which also deem the headphone shitty

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hell it's shitty even according to the made up rtings target

ornate blaze
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Yes, you’ve made your point, I’ve conceded

molten lotus
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if you want to enjoy shit go ahead it's no one's business but people will get pissed off when you are trying to deal others in shit

ornate blaze
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I have apologised already

molten lotus
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I apologize too

ornate blaze
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Excellent

summer flicker
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theres not many people in this hobby that will defend the sony headphones as anything but 'good for anc and nothing else'

ornate blaze
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My favourite headphones are DT770 pro

molten lotus
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they are the best at anc I have heard

ornate blaze
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Because super cheap

molten lotus
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haven't tried qc45

summer flicker
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those are probably worse than the sonys

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actually they are

molten lotus
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huh

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I thought they are better

summer flicker
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dt770

molten lotus
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since they also sell the u.s. military headphones

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oh you were speaking to cragger

summer flicker
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qc45 is like about the equivalent to the sonys

dry stratus
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unnecessary, but ehh

tender frost
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dude yall spent 30 minute arguing lol

molten lotus
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he really did nuke the poop-audio post purchase deductive hypothesis

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enemy of science

tender frost
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unfortunately i feel that poop is not exactly audio-tech discussion

dry stratus
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few more to go it seems

summer flicker
molten lotus
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i assure you there is an ultimatum

summer flicker
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smh

dry stratus
tender frost
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🙄

dry stratus
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that's probs a no

summer flicker
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the truth was silenced once again

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what a world we live in

molten lotus
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society

dry stratus
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could always just create a server yourself

molten lotus
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i did

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it's terrible

dry stratus
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because?

molten lotus
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might be related to making dynobot give everyone admin upon joining

dry stratus
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make an audiophile E-Sports team

molten lotus
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mandatory hd800 requirements

dry stratus
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yes

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Strategy: make the other side cry by bullying them over using gaming headsets

reef ginkgo
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Do AV Receivers have Pre-Amplified outputs? (Besides the subwoofer)

ornate blaze
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Some do, not all

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My nr1509 has sub and front left/right pre outputs

atomic ridge
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Is the sound blasterx G6 any good? Found one for under 100$, to drive dt990 pro 250Ω

lean grove
solid dirge
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Love how I can search todays top iems and theres articles in 2023 that dont even mention the timeless when they mention ranges from $3600 what the hell to $59.

lean grove
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there's a new "best" budget iem every week. you cant expect articles to keep up with that

solid dirge
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What were the $99 iems that had that purple glass again? Rounded oblong shape, I was considering those or the Timeless AE

solid dirge
lean grove
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well usually when people say something is good, its because its good for the price. everyone sings high praises of the koss headphones but nobody in their right mind is saying that they're better than good headphones in the $1000 range

solid dirge
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Of course

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I havent heard of a lot of these though. Guess that is in part to my budget not being 3 grand but

solid dirge
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I was looking at either Timeless AE or the Dioko. Shame that the Timeless dont have the 2 pin. Also LTT had an opinion I didnt like, they prefer the coaxial

white gate
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@solid dirge what's your budget?

solid dirge
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Timeless AE price is prob my hard limit

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I pushed from about $150 tbh

white gate
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Can you go for Moondrop KATO?

solid dirge
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I was looking at those but since I use my headphones so often, my ears produce a lot of wax and Ive heard bits about the nozzles not handling that well.

white gate
solid dirge
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Im a bit ignorant when it comes to this stuff as well, but I was also looking to get specifically planars

white gate
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Is there a particular reason you're wanting planars?

The planar IEMs are all a little hit or miss atm

solid dirge
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The better response thats associated with them mostly, also the better separation of instruments

white gate
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That's the case with full size planars. With the IEMs not so much atm.

solid dirge
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Also I am a little bit of a basshead suncraSAD so Id like the option to drive that up without it becoming too muddy or distorted

lean grove
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thats not a concern with IEMs

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well, with decent iems anyways

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smaller diaphragm, lower moving mass, lower excursion, better seal.

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@white gate do you know anything about the amplification on the smsl vmv a1?
its not "classical class A" like they advertise in their pamphlet. it idles at 13-15 watts and as soon as i play music through it on speakers, i can see it jump by half a watt or 10-15 watts.

white gate
solid dirge
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Speaking of seal I plan to wear these for hours on end and dont want to readjust them every 10 mins like my galaxy buds

lean grove
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i doubt its high bias though. because im playing at 70db and i can see that rise in power consumption

unique wind
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that’s down to finding the perfect tip size

lean grove
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you'd think that it would be 15 watts, then as soon as it gets above the transition point, then it draws more power

solid dirge
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I have a good tip size, its just like I said, my ears produce so much wax that they just slip

white gate
lean grove
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oh neat. okay.

unique wind
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timeless was praised so much because it was one of the first planar iems that didn’t have super weird tuning

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but it’s not that great anymore

lean grove
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you know i cant tell if thats a real name or a joke name

white gate
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Ngl it still has kinda messed up treble IMO

unique wind
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it has a peak in the treble

solid dirge
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Huh. Alright then. I heard that peak in the comparison vids I watched, especially compared to the AE which is part of why I leaned towards that model

unique wind
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i use these planar iems every day

unique wind
solid dirge
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Yeah dont kink sha- wait..

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Ive been wondering why theres a red and blue line on these graphs, does that indicate R/L or something else?

unique wind
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yah L/R

solid dirge
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Odd that the Kato with the steel nozzle has more variance than the brass one

ornate blaze
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What shape are the “ears” of the measurerererer

unique wind
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ear shape i reckon

ornate blaze
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Ear variances - the big oof

unique wind
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true that

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if you’re bill gates you can have custom iems made specifically for your ear shape made

ornate blaze
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Oh I’m far too peasant

unique wind
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i think they’re like $1000-2000

unique wind
ornate blaze
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Would love to try if it were within reach though

solid dirge
lean grove
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yeah those seem interesting

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uv cured goop

unique wind
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i haven’t seen that

lean grove
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short circuit has done a couple of vids on them

solid dirge
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Logitech G fits

dry stratus
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The little bit I've heard of them sound wise is "they lack bass" according to normie reviewers

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aka its probably just a normal amount

lean grove
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and a lethal amount for con-pin

dry stratus
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idk, IEMs don't really do much in terms of rumbling bass

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worst thing about those would be the returning process probably...

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aka can't return, because you can only have them take shape once iirc

lean grove
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you dont think the tips are meant to be removed?

dry stratus
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no

lean grove
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they sell replacements for $30 a pair

molten lotus
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but they really need that seal

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ever since I got triple flange er2se tips the bass started to hit so much harder

dry stratus
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is it hard slamming bass, or actual bloated rumbling consumer trash bass you find in things like skullcandies (which is the kind I am talking about here)

lean grove
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thats actually the rumbling voice of Klaus moaning in pleasure as he inserts them

molten lotus
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ofc not skullcandy tier but it definitely rumbles

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and slams a lot harder than before

lean grove
molten lotus
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but it's nowhere as responsive as planar slam

lean grove
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ba is faster than planar

molten lotus
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i don't know what ba is

dry stratus
lean grove
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oh its er2

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balanced armature

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the er2 uses a dd

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er3 and 4 is ba

molten lotus
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im not commenting on er2se

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I just have it's eartips on arias

lean grove
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oh

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interesting

fluid island
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best microphone + stand i can get with £70

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don't want to go xlr, want a fairly plug and play setup

i want boom arm to be viable too for the future

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hit me

fluid island
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thank you

fluid island
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but knowing nzxt i can probably go better for the money or go for something of similar quality for less

molten lotus
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Thoughts on my pop filter lol

tender frost
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I feel like that's more of an everything filter

molten lotus
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it works lol

molten lotus
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yeah you just don't get anything post 10khz

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I mean, I pushed all the stuffing aside so its just a layer of fabric between my mic and the stuffed animal itself

trail briar
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hey guys my headphones are doing this really bad stutter every little bit i tired resetting my pc, and messing with them in settings but nothing is fixing it

foggy spade
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Guys, phone records are way better than which I've record on my computer but why ?
mobo is b450m s2h and using default app with w11

bitter hollow
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Like
With the same mic?

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Are you just plugging it into the 3.5?

sinful niche
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Has anyone tried the nothing ear 2 buds?

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They’re relatively cheap

weak rapids
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only complaint so far for the hd560s is its plastic build leads to some noise from certain head movements in the headband mechanism

unique wind
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it be like that

molten lotus
molten lotus
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Also at the time I got my 560s for $80

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I understand not liking sundaras

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but shp9500>sundaras

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come on

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I like the sunduras

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Im not saying they're better

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I'm saying im going from one to another

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oh

steel isle
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Dunno which channel is the best for this question, but this had audio in it so here it is...

I've had my Corsair Vengance 1500 for Quite some time now and they are unearthly filthy and some of the plastic just broke. The USB cable have been replaced 9 times. I guess its time for a new headset.

Any suggestions for a durable and comfy headset? Good outside world sound blocking characteristics is also nice. Budget $100-$300 ish. Preferably wirebound as wireless tends to always be un-charged. My sound profile tends to be more less heavy on the upper mid and highs.

molten lotus
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hd560s

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use the remaining money for a mic if you don't have one

unique wind
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they said they want ambient noise blocking

steel isle
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I've always had a built in one in the headset. Cause I do not like the big clunky mics everyone have in the middle of the screen nowadays 😛

molten lotus
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oh i missed that part

molten lotus
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no good headphones come with mics

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so you shoot yourself on the foot with that approach

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go for an audeze maxwell if you can

molten lotus
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modmic wireless is a scam

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definitely

molten lotus
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sounds like shit

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and costs 200$

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I can make a better sounding modmic wireless with components worth 10$

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by taking apart literally any shitty aliexpress lavalier mic and a bluetooth mic module working on sbc

molten lotus
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Amazon is $140

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if it was 60-70$ it would make sense

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It's sufficient for most, I've used it and my friend now uses it and it serves its purpose if you're not a super audiophile.

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100$ is still too much for what it is

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shitty company abusing market monopoly

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absolute dogs

steel isle
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All the audeze maxwell I find is above $400 😢

molten lotus
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audeze penrose

molten lotus
# steel isle All the audeze maxwell I find is above $400 😢
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no noise isolation

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which he wanted

unique wind
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akg k371 and wired modmic would probably be best if you’re comfortable having two cables running to the computer

molten lotus
steel isle
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Open back sounds like it blocks nothing 😢

molten lotus
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didnt read that part

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it doesn't

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unless you are listening to something actively

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open backs don't block anything

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which is why they are made

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since it aids audio quality

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noise cancelling is le cringe but if you live in a city or something I get it lmao

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yeah

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you can get closed back 569s

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nah

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don't

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lol

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just get k361/k371

steel isle
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I have 3d printers and cnc-mills next to me on the desk, as well as kids screaming on the streat outside, I'll take all noise blocking I can get

molten lotus
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you aren't going to stop a cnc mill with headphones

molten lotus
steel isle
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I know, but it helps 🙂

molten lotus
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put all the equipment elsewhere

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ez

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tru

steel isle
molten lotus
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black holes can absorb audio, i hope this can help

steel isle
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How is HyperX Cloud Revolver? I'm assuming crap :3

weak rapids
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if they made a metal constructed hd560s I would easily buy em

molten lotus
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pretty sure they are what I had

steel isle
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crap.. i really do not want a separate microphone 😄

molten lotus
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cloud 2 are decent

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ig

tepid torrent
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Is your desk really small

bitter hollow
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the mic sounds kind of shit, but it works

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the mx50 headset seems to have a better mic, but it's an mx50

steel isle
# tepid torrent Why?

No, but full of shit, metal shavings, wood shavings, I'm pretty sure I'll fill it with junk too fast if it stands on my desk. And they tend to dislike longer distances. I move around quite a bit...

tepid torrent
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Unless you want wireless

bitter hollow
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I guess that's the dolby license

steel isle
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my ex had a desk mic, and it blocks half her screen when she games

tepid torrent
steel isle
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Or not :3

tepid torrent
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????

molten lotus
mighty forum
molten lotus
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its not like you need the mic in front of your mouth

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the sides are free real estate

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or below

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it blocks essentially nothing that way

bitter hollow
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you can get a cheap boom arm for like, $20

molten lotus
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But most of my peripherals I end up replacing.

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shitty battery moment

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Not the wireless

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oh

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The wireless I had for a while but my friend bought it off me because I thought it was kinda pointless with my wired headset

steel isle
# molten lotus it blocks essentially nothing that way

I just feel all these big bulky mics that people use is in the way whatever I do with them.
I don't just game, my desk is a workspace. The headset is on my head anyway. And a built in microphone is not in the way.
I do not even have a desk lamp cause they are too much in the way. LED strips all around on the shelves instead.
And I do not really care too much about mic sound quality, as I do not stream. Mic is the call counterparts issue 🙂

steel isle
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Just thought about it, it does not happen too often nowadays but still. I cant have a desk mic, nor a lav mic. Because when console gaming, my couch is 2 meters away from my desk. And all consoles is piped through computer. So I use the same headset when in the couch as by the desk working. So I need to bring it with me.
My current headset have a 5 meter usb cable to them, so they can reach all the 3 meters to my bed as well. And wireless headphones end up not charged too fast and also, battery won't last more than one or two years.

molten lotus
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well

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cloud 2

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or maxwell/penrose

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your only realistic opinions as it seems to me

bitter hollow
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apparently maxwell costs 400 for them

molten lotus
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yeah

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apparently

bitter hollow
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is that aud or something?

molten lotus
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no idea

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could be wacky imports

bitter hollow
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everyone should just move to the US

lean grove
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Except Klaus

molten lotus
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True

foggy scarab
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Why not Klaus?

lean grove
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he's a menace to freedom

foggy scarab
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I mean, he’d have the freedom to think that too lol

lean grove
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no. he doesnt. quite literally.

foggy scarab
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Wdym?

lean grove
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he had his amputated

foggy scarab
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Oh ok

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Damn

lean grove
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anything for vbucks i guess

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

foggy scarab
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His what?

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What was amputated?

unique wind
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tried oratory's he400se eq profile and the signal drops completely at higher volume

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headphones just go silent until the song chills out or i lower the knob

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tried lowering preamp gain even further to see if it was software clipping and it didnt help

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doesnt happen with my own eq which is weird

unique wind
#

i need moar power i dont like going over 50% on any amp on high gain

lean grove
#

what amp is this

unique wind
#

iemagni

lean grove
#

ah

#

get that A90 you've been pining over

#

i think i saw a good deal for one on apos

unique wind
#

might because it's the cheapest way to get a lot of balanced power

lean grove
#

currently an open box LA90 for $760

unique wind
#

people who tap la90 and put headphones on it are scary individuals

lean grove
#

theres also a few open box A90's for $500

unique wind
#

then id have to grab myself a balanced dac too because having a modi ontop of the a90d is gonna be ugly

#

i think ill wait until im willing to spend $600-2000 on headphones

#

not gonna drop a grand on a stack and plug he400se into them

lean grove
#

coward

lean grove
#

you'll have reached 50% of the 400se's true potential

dreamy bear
#

Hello, I bought an AT2020 microphone, but it only came with the microphone. What do I need for it to work?

#

It says I need a 48V phantom power

unique wind
#

you need a USB audio interface

foggy scarab
#

some people (me) don't know audio terms

#

or what that is

dreamy bear
dry stratus
foggy scarab
#

I know what sound means. I've heard of bass, I just don't know how to explain that one

unique wind
#

bass are the funny rumbles that make conpin vomit

foggy scarab
#

ah, ok

unique wind
dreamy bear
#

can you send me a link to a good one

unique wind
#

well youll need a "XLR" cable to connect your AT2020 to the audio interface, and a USB cable to connect the interface to your computer

dreamy bear
#

it has no usb

#

3 prong

unique wind
#

yes that's where the XLR cable plugs into which connects the microphone to the interface

#

the usb cable is for connecting the interface to the computer

#

which you do not have an interface yet

dreamy bear
#

so I need an XLR to usb?

dry stratus
#

one is analog, one is digital

dreamy bear
#

what

dry stratus
#

my answer: XLR to USB wouldn't work

dreamy bear
#

how do I do it then

foggy scarab
#

DAC

#

lmao

dreamy bear
#

the manual just says I need 48V phantom power

dry stratus
#

probably because they expect you to know USB goes into USB input

unique wind
dry stratus
#

lel

unique wind
#

you need an audio interface

#

which is what provides the 48v phantom power

dry stratus
#

usb or us8?

unique wind
#

-_-

dry stratus
dreamy bear
#

what interface should I use

unique wind
#

this is the best i can do

dreamy bear
#

A MTF XLR right?

unique wind
# dreamy bear what interface should I use
dreamy bear
#

okay

#

what's a good stand

dreamy bear
#

This will work right

unique wind
#

yah it will

#

the flat black side connects to the microphone and the pronged side plugs into the interface

steel isle
bitter hollow
#

oh, norway

#

yeah that's gonna be rough

steel isle
#

How is the HS80?

dry stratus
#

bad

fiery berry
#

I have a denon dp-300f record player paired with klipsch r51pm powered speakers and i need some more length to the stock rca cables on the record player. I bought an extension cable but with it comes also a noticable hum, i presume from not being grounded. The record player dosent have a ground wire. Does any one have an solution to fix this problem?

solid dirge
#

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I think someone at Amazon got high as shit and I want it

#

Idk who in their right minds would want an alexa enabled gaming mouse, printer or humidifier

solid dirge
#

Reduce any EMI you can

#

If its new maybe see if you can find something with a balanced output instead and return it. Idk enough about vinyl to know if those are common though so do with that what you will

fiery berry
molten lotus
#

If not google how to treat ground loops

arctic lagoon
#

hello, is there a way to connect a wired and a wireless(bluetooth) headset to a ssame laptop ?

steel isle
lean grove
#

Most of the time virtual surround sound isn't adding any new information. It's just adding some reverb and EQ.

slim mason
#

Got alpines for the audi

molten lotus
#

7.1 just sounds bad

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and off

molten lotus
steel isle
#

I'm pondering on one of these Audio Technica ATH M50xSTS that ShortCircuit reviewed yesterday

dry stratus
#

don't listen to those people

ornate blaze
dry stratus
steel isle
#

I have a Very big head and hate treble, so I might fall into that category 🙂

#

My car stereo is set at +5 Bass and -4 treble 🙂 (of +-6)

ornate blaze
#

Buy them from somewhere which has a good returns procedure in case you get them and don’t like them

molten lotus
steel isle
#

Yeah, but everything recommended here is Headphones, not headset as I asked for 😛

ornate blaze
#

@steel isle what music do you listen to?

severe hare
#

Guys, europe, mainly gaming/music
Closed back (too much outside noise)
Budget 200€
On eyes:
770 pro x (a little over budget)
Tygr
i've read a lot, and are always DTs, HDs soo iam a bit overwhelmed, can some one give some tips?

molten lotus
molten lotus
#

avoid dt770 generally, not good

#

it is secondary by far to other items available for the same price

#

also consider hd560s

#

tygr is better for gaming but hd560s might be better off musically to you

#

and the difference in the subject of gaming isn't a huge difference either

ornate blaze
#

He doesn’t want open back

molten lotus
#

he mentioned tygr

severe hare
#

iam like no hardcore gamer, i like a lot fps and soo, but want a overall good sound

molten lotus
#

that is an open back headphone

severe hare
#

tru

ornate blaze
#

Ah fair enough

molten lotus
#

I mean if you can go for an open back then do so

#

you lose out on a lot of potentional performance otherwise

#

if you don't want that then akg k361/k371 will be your best bet

#

k371 is k361 with more bass essentially, purchase according to your tastes

severe hare
#

thats what ive been reading about open back

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and was a bit towards.. but yeh my setup is in the living room D:

molten lotus
#

mm

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well

#

for 200 I really don't have any other closed backs I can recommend

#

dt770 and m50x are not good items

severe hare
#

my hyperx alpha is giving me head pain on top, i can go a bit over the budget if justifies

molten lotus
#

closed back market is like

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legitimately very dead

#

akg k361/k371 has been dominating it for years now

#

the only other thing I can think of are focals

#

which isn't a bit over the top

steel isle
# ornate blaze <@151133142537732097> what music do you listen to?

Um... That is exceedingly difficult to answer. A bit of everything. Mostly Heavy/Dark industry/metal, Anime music too. Folk Rock. (Rammstein/VNV Nation/Grendel/Boss music from games/Some Heavy Witch House
And games is Satisfactory/CoD/Factorio/Elden Ring-esque mostly.

molten lotus
#

factorio is based

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fuck the dude who made space exploration mod though

steel isle
molten lotus
#

haven't tried it

severe hare
#

seems hd560s are my best option and not that expensive hm

steel isle
#

My sound curve on my Corsair Vengance 1500

molten lotus
#

hd560s is also an open back

ornate blaze
#

Hehe

severe hare
#

yeh

molten lotus
steel isle
#

Told you 🙂

ornate blaze
#

Buy a Sony XB sku @steel isle

molten lotus
#

actual corsair moment

steel isle
#

Whenever I listen to music on my cellphone with regular Sennheiser CX150BT , I feel like my ears will bleed from the trebble :3

ornate blaze
#

Sennheiser generally are way too bright for me too

molten lotus
#

sennheisers cannot make anything but open backs

#

literally

#

except for their latest wired iem lineup of ie300-600

#

apart from those they are a meme level company

severe hare
#

no amp should be fine with hd560?

molten lotus
#

its fine

#

if you want assurance get an apple dongle

severe hare
#

WTF is an apple dongle LOL

molten lotus
#

the apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

severe hare
#

ah, gets more juice cause usb c

steel isle
#

I would have considered hd569 or akg k371 had they had microphones. :3

molten lotus
#

or get a CX 31993

#

which is apple dongle but a bit more sturdier

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and comes with an usb A adapter

#

hd569 is a hard avoid

#

tbh

molten lotus
#

it just has good chips so it ensures standard audio quality in case your motherboard output is bad

#

by good i mean decent, linear performance

severe hare
#

ah i have a strix b550 can handle easily

molten lotus
#

motherboard audio outputs can be horrendously bad

#

there are kilobuck motherboards with meme level outputs

#

you would be surprised how bad they make them, while your motherboard might have a very decent output you can use an apple dongle for insurance

#

its up to you

severe hare
#

have to research more on that, noted!

steel isle
#

Like all my mobo outputs have high frequency disturbances under load. So I'm going for usb (partially so I can swap cable when it unavoidably fails after a year)

molten lotus
#

usb headphones?

steel isle
#

I wish I could just buy a new set of Vengance 1500 😄

molten lotus
#

i mean

#

if you do this to a headphone

#

the odds are it isn't good

#

lol

steel isle
#

I'll likely have to do that to whatever headphones/headset I get

molten lotus
#

nah

#

definitely not

#

corsair just makes atrocious audio products

severe hare
#

hd560s with a good external microphone and i should be good for some time. which micro should i get? non intrusive pls, those booms for me are weird

molten lotus
#

i mean

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boom arms are excellent just position them nicely

#

desk arms are a lot worse trust me

#

no freedom at all

#

and your keyboard & mouse clicks transmit through the desk to the mic

severe hare
#

i think iam more in those small that attach to the tshirt

molten lotus
#

oh then go for them

#

lavalier mics are great

#

buy any 5$ lavalier mic and it will sound good

severe hare
#

more wires to the table lezz go

#

xD

dry stratus
steel isle
#

Comparing mine to these?
I think I will make any audiophile puke with my eq settings 😄

#

Those last posted seem to be pretty standard eq settings for corsair vengance headsets :3
Pretty far off mine

molten lotus
#

i can't really blame you given it's a corsair headset

steel isle
#

I generally mute people in voice chats that have lav mics, I cant stand the rubbing against the shirts :3

molten lotus
#

skill issue on their end tbh

dry stratus
#

should just eat it

steel isle
#

Tbh, I mute most people in voice not irl friends but that is just me being anti social as usual.

dry stratus
#

imagine ever going into voice

severe hare
#

and the PC38X? seems similar to hd560 but with mic

steel isle
#

Yeah, was looking at those

weak rapids
#

And it can be run on anything

severe hare
#

nvm, can't have them without selling my kidney to taxes

#

xD

steel isle
#

Not available in sweden :3

weak rapids
steel isle
#

Also, open back

severe hare
#

Portugal here

weak rapids
#

Oof

weak rapids
steel isle
#

I know, but no mic 😢

dry stratus
weak rapids
#

Hmm idk if theres is a closed back gaming headphone from audiophile companies lol

steel isle
weak rapids
#

Cloud 2s and cloud alpha are pretty decent, ive tried them both

dry stratus
#

cloud II

severe hare
#

nah, the price would spike to... 220€ max

#

IF i buy now at 139$ on drop

dry stratus
weak rapids
#

Yeah I would recommend Cloud 2 or Cloud Alpha for you

severe hare
#

23% here if iam not mistaken

#

plus fees

steel isle
dry stratus
#

last time I checked, 21% here at least

weak rapids
severe hare
#

and talking to Klaus led me to hd560s

steel isle
#

I was looking at the Audzee Maxwell, but $400 is a lot for a gaming headset.

severe hare
#

i see that roze is in the same boat as me

nova wagon
#

how much is the virtuoso xt in your country?

steel isle
#

I want something that will last me 8 years + 🙂

nova wagon
#

i saw it selling for 370 usd and that headset is overpriced

severe hare
#

8 years holy f, 3y for me is already top notch

steel isle
#

But that is on sale (refurb), normal pice $300

severe hare
#

they all die on the 2nd year after the warranty period...

steel isle
dry stratus
nova wagon
# steel isle But that is on sale (refurb), normal pice $300

yea, at that price it stands no chance to the maxwell
tbh, the maxwell is just one step above literally any other wireless gaming headset in the market
the only weakness is the mic which sounds like your typical sub 100 usd headset mic but its the tradeoff they made to allow more bandwidth for the headphone

steel isle
#

If I was looking for a good mic, I would have gone with the HS80 (more or less direct replacement of my old vengance ones). But I could not be that arsed about mic quality as long as its not terrible.

#

refurbed sounds like someone else already had them on their head

nova wagon
# steel isle If I was looking for a good mic, I would have gone with the HS80 (more or less d...

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nova wagon
severe hare
#

have you seen artics nova?

steel isle
#

Me?

severe hare
#

yeh gaming wireless

#

maybe u looking into more high end tho

nova wagon
#

they just want something that lasts

steel isle
#

Yeah, been seeing those. They are of consideration.

nova wagon
#

one of the perks that a lot of more premium products have

steel isle
severe hare
#

they are always on discount on amazon for me, arctis 9, arctis nova pro, logitech g pro x

steel isle
#

Even tho they are $100 above the set budget :3

nova wagon
#

its not like that one headset is gonna use up all your mobo's usb bandwidth

steel isle
#

I wish the maxwell ones had a wired version....

nova wagon
#

they do have a wired headset, the lcd gx

#

but its basically their normal big ass headphone with a in line mic

#

super heavy for most people, super impratical for gaming as well

steel isle
#

And costs $1000

nova wagon
#

yep

steel isle
#

likely

#

But they are $1200 on that site

#

My budget top is $300

nova wagon
#

where are you from?

steel isle
#

Sweden

nova wagon
#

yea the price are more expensive unfortunately

steel isle
#

A wired headset (usb) can be repaired easily. Anything wireless is a pain

#

And the battery will be worthless in just a years time

ornate blaze
#

That is what is off putting with the wire free inner earphones

#

I won’t be able to do anything with any of our sets when they expire

severe hare
#

longevity, should you being looking into HDs, DTs like me? they often are easily fixed, swap parts etc

#

no microphone is your deal breaker i guess D:

steel isle
#

xD

#

I dread playing CoD and the batteries die.... Shrug....

nova wagon
#

how much is the modmic for you?

#

like the cheapest 3.5mm variant

steel isle
#

Just a random rant: Why is all wired cables on the left side when most computer cases is designed to stand on the right side? 😄

steel isle
#

And an additional cable

nova wagon
#

most people's dominant hand is the right one
easier to one hand disconnect it than on the right

dry stratus
#

what is dominant hand based on

solid dirge
#

What hand you mainly use..?

nova wagon
#

yea, just which hands you prefered to used more

#

oh this too

dry stratus
#

tfw my right is more accurate but my left is stronger

#

so it depends on what I am doing

nova wagon
#

you are ambidexterity then

severe hare
dry stratus
cyan stump
steel isle
#

I found a local store have a drive for the maxwell ps version (works for PC anyway). Might go for that. At least puts it below $400

#

I'm not fond of wireless, but its better than having 2 wires cause of modmic

dry stratus
#

just get HD800 with some high end amp/dac

severe hare
#

HD 800 AMP LOL

#

take my kidney

steel isle
#

$1700....

#

cries together with @severe hare

molten lotus
#

you could get that thing for 600$ used

#

bad times we live in

severe hare
#

i wish they did 560s with rotation for easier travel

steel isle
#

Audeze Maxwell is out of stock in sweden, 2 months delivery time

molten lotus
#

hd560 does rotation though

dry stratus
ornate blaze
#

You don’t need to spend that much money to get something you enjoy

molten lotus
#

just not like

#

flat rotation

#

it doesn't rotate as much as an airpod max

severe hare
molten lotus
#

enough to adjust to your ears tho

dry stratus
molten lotus
#

goes both ways

severe hare
#

ah yeh

molten lotus
#

it isn't loud like a speaker obviously but, if it's a quiet enviorment might be audible

dry stratus
molten lotus
leaden cloak
severe hare
#

i have to adjust to an open headset, iam a bit noob if i can't in a week i return and get those akg

molten lotus
#

go for it

#

better to give it a try

severe hare
#

yup

dry stratus
#

delta air + apple dongle best gaming in ears

severe hare
#

better try than to die ignorant

#

in ears for gaming isnt painfull for you all?

#

talking 1h+

molten lotus
#

depends on eartips and in ears

#

also on the ear

dry stratus
#

no, because they don't fit in my non existent earholes

molten lotus
#

we got different ears

#

what fits me wont fit you

severe hare
#

i use tip M for right side and S for left LOL

molten lotus
#

cursed but understandable

steel isle
#

Audeze Maxwell seems out of stock everywhere....

dry stratus
severe hare
#

i used to work with an in ear and it hurted after 2h+

steel isle
#

Oh.... a local store allows to book a demo time for the Audeze Maxwells before buying :3

severe hare
#

dont do a mistake i do roze

#

u are balls deep on to that

#

take some breath

#

xD

severe hare
#

AHAH

dry stratus
steel isle
severe hare
#

i went balls deep on an S22U because yeh, half price on ebay and i wanted to try ULTRA dispite knowing the problems of Exynos

#

fucked, 3h SOT

#

feel ya, if u can try its better

nova wagon
#

granted, massive nerds who has listened to how "decent" audio can sound like

#

demo would be a good idea

steel isle
#

cloud ii is pretty cheap in comparison to maxwell 😄

#

$60 instead of $400

nova wagon
#

decently tuned
not even better

ornate blaze
#

That’s a huge price difference

steel isle
#

tbh, Maxwell does not seem to be released outside us yet

severe hare
#

imagine they last 2years

#

the cloud ii

#

u can just buy 3 more

#

and still save money

#

lol

steel isle
#

yeah...

steel isle
#

"here"?

dry stratus
#

nether

ornate blaze
#

Useful information

severe hare
#

well, thats why i said dont go narrowed to the maxwell, but try it nevertheless

steel isle
severe hare
#

time to head out, thanks guys, gl on your findings

solid dirge
#

Im just surprised to see wireless planars, and at that price

leaden cloak
#

It’s pretty amazing

steel isle
#

Linus seemed to think planar was not really worth it

dry stratus
#

its linus

ornate blaze
leaden cloak
#

I sort of agree but the problem is a lot of planars are expensive and the cheap ones all suck

ornate blaze
#

So compromise required, then

dry stratus
#

yes, your wallet

steel isle
#

So final verdict? Wait 1+ month for a Maxwell or go for a Cloud II now? Seems like I can order the latter for $100 from amazon.

#

Also, will the Maxwell last 4 times as long as the Cloud II?

leaden cloak
#

You can get a Maxwell for $100?

#

That’s the Audeze one right?

steel isle
#

Former = Maxwell = $400 (for me)

weak rapids
#

Just buy some speakers and tape em to your head

ornate blaze
#

Just look at the waveform for the audio

#

Graphs are good

leaden cloak
#

I was gonna say that’s a good deal

leaden cloak
molten lotus
#

id like to try k1000 with a dedicated subwoofer

#

for gaming

ornate blaze
#

Avoid the bass

#

As long as you turn the subwoofer completely off that will work well </s>

severe hare
#

Klaus, PC38X for 175€ bad deal vs HD 560s 145€ ? just because less trouble with microphone, and seem more spatial awareness for gaming

steel isle
molten lotus
#

it doesn't have more spatial advantages over the hd560s

#

hd560s sounds better

#

but go for whatever is convenient

#

honestly

#

Id get a boomarm and hd560s if I were you but the decision is yours

steel isle
#

Pioneer A-702R + Big speakers ♥️

weak rapids
#

Isnt an hd58x basically just a pc38x but without a mic, higher impedance and higher quality?

severe hare
nova wagon
molten lotus
#

it wont be lav mic quality

severe hare
#

ahah ur losing your patience xD

molten lotus
#

but definitely usable

severe hare
#

thanks

molten lotus
#

i mean

steel isle
#

How much does HD560s sound for people beside you? Eg. the sound bleedthrough

unique wind
#

mr4 are supposedly pretty good for a desk setup

steel isle
#

How long do you think Audeze Maxwells microphone will last without getting iffy cause of bad connection? All detachable microphones suck ass from a longevity standpoint imo.

lean grove
#

Consequence of price.

#

The 1280s are brighter, less even, but they don't have a massive hole at the crossover point.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Pickings are slim at this price point

molten lotus
#

anyone know any good inexpensive over ear wireless headphones anc maybe preferred or noise cancelling with bluetooth thats good for iphone and or some gaming on laptop?

#

mr4 are also actives

#

and are better than 1280

brazen jolt
#

What’s a good sound card

#

What are sound cards in the first place

ornate blaze
#

What’s budget?

#

I have a fiio dsd capable dac for the office and a Sony uda-1 dac in my lounge, former was £130 new and the latter was £200 used

brazen jolt
#

Well my pc is at 1200 usd rn

ornate blaze
#

If your motherboard sound outputs aren’t noisy and you don’t have much to spend, sticking with that is usually fine these days

brazen jolt
#

Idk yet so I’ll probably check once it comes in thanks

tepid torrent
unique wind
#

put your music on and then take your headphones off and set them on the desk

#

it’s like that

steel isle
#

My ex had those Razer pink ones with cat ears, and I heard everything she listened to from 4 meters away, even with my headphones on 😛

#

Horrible to sit beside :3

molten lotus
#

i think your ex is steadily developing hearing damage

prisma mesa
#

those ones suck to wear

#

they don't hug your head very well- or at least not for me

#

i could assume that they maybe weren't on her head properly

steel escarp
#

having a cold for 4 weeks has now closed of my left ear

#

the pressure does not want to equalise

#

even after correcting it gets fucked after like 2 seconds

molten lotus
#

do drops

#

then spray lukewarm water into it with an injector

#

not too hard or else you will get dizzy

#

spray it towards the top of you ear so the water you spray dips from the bottom while you spray it at the top

weak rapids
#

lived with it till december

steel escarp
#

damn

weak rapids
#

and then got tubes in my ears

steel escarp
#

I dont want tubes again

#

having your eardrums pierced sounds scary

#

I had them as a kid

weak rapids
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my doctor was great except for when he DRASTICALLY underestimated the pain of the tubes

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i was offered freezing and do it then and there or wait a few weeks and be put to sleep for it

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i chose freezing

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worst pain of my life

steel isle
crisp moat
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Opinions on D1

unique wind
crisp moat
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I really like it tbh

unique wind
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coo

tawdry gale
tepid torrent
unique wind
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la 90 but discrete???

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seems too good to be true

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moar power

lean grove
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What was not discrete about the old one

unique wind
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discrete components instead of using op amps

lean grove
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Right.

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But you can't push 100+ watts through an op amp

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So. Some parts in the speaker amp have to be discreet.

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So maybe less discreet

abstract spindle
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any sound quality difference between the 96k hz one and the 44.1k hz one

abstract spindle
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they all sound the same idk what im saying lol 😭 also 48k sounds the same too so im just ognna go 48k

cyan stump
abstract spindle
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nah im just listening to music

dry stratus
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that's just windows sound settings menu

cyan stump
lucid phoenix
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Is 70$ CAD good for the hd280 pro?

tepid torrent
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See if you can save up and get a akg k361

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Or find a Creative aurvana live!

dry stratus
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sennheiser is incapable of closed backs

tepid torrent
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even the 2 kilobuck HD820 literally sucks ass

tepid torrent
dry stratus
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just beyer closed backs but worse

tepid torrent
dry stratus
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15x and 5x or smth depending on which

cunning scroll
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aside from AE5 which is expensive which one of these are good cards? the integrated audio on my motherboard feels like pain

molten lotus
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why do you need a sound card

tepid torrent
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ez fix

cunning scroll
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what are you on about

cunning scroll
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no

molten lotus
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its like 9$

cunning scroll
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they sell $20 for any other dongle...

tepid torrent
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and itll sound better than all of those sound cards that are 6 times its price

cunning scroll
molten lotus
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that's still at least twice as cheap as the cheapest card you sent on the list

molten lotus
tepid torrent
molten lotus
cunning scroll
molten lotus
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and?

tepid torrent
cunning scroll
tepid torrent
molten lotus
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how does it sticking out of your board affect anything

cunning scroll
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still cheaper

molten lotus
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every cable you use is something sticking out of your pc

cunning scroll
molten lotus
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no he means an adapter from usb c to usb a

tepid torrent
cunning scroll
molten lotus
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it isn't

cunning scroll
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now then you can plug it in front IO

molten lotus
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its literally smaller than headset cables

tepid torrent
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and you mistook it as something else

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bro dont you use a mouse and keyboard

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those stick out too