audio-tech

[lean grove]

I'm good.

[tender frost]

An ifi idsd nano ig
Or something with that name, barely remember it

[molten lotus]

Do you have smth else, just a recommendation? You don´t have to use the website. Just smth that comes to you mind right now.

[lean grove]

Elac, Polk, Sony and Klipsch might have something.

Just try not to buy anything with too small speakers

Oh and jbl

JBL also has good stuff

[molten lotus]

what do you think about "Canton Movie 265"? (Specs: https://geizhals.de/canton-movie-265-schwarz-a1243857.html [German])

[unique wind]

surround sound kits like that are caca

[molten lotus]

ok

[lean grove]

Bad

Like i said, try not to go for small speakers.

Anything smaller than ,75 liters per speaker I would be suspicious of. Small speakers = no bass = subwoofer doing all the work

[molten lotus]

how is that? Samsung HW-Q995GC (Specs: https://geizhals.de/samsung-hw-q995gc-a2903267.html?hloc=de [German]) or that LG DS80QR (Specs: https://geizhals.de/lg-ds80qr-a2810616.html?hloc=de [German])

[lean grove]

Try and find a Sony ht-a9

[molten lotus]

that? https://geizhals.de/sony-ht-a9-a2571910.html

[lean grove]

Yes

[molten lotus]

is there maybe smth. cheaper?

[lean grove]

You asked for best

And with the limit of that website, those are probably the best.

[molten lotus]

ok thats true

https://geizhals.de/yamaha-yht-1840-schwarz-a1659796.html how is this?

[tranquil spindle]

I hate this radio

Does anyone have suggestions for anything better

No way to use external audio sources

[molten lotus]

hipdac

if you don't want to bother with room treatment focal utopia evos are pretty straightforward

[unique wind]

you have to give us a budget if you have one man

[molten lotus]

600-1k Euros would be the Budget, sry I forgot to send a budget (1 Euro = 1,09$)

[formal moth]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/car-and-driver-car-power-station-with-4-charging-ports-and-fm-transmitter-black/6240410.p?skuId=6240410
I use this thing for my ancient truck
Transmits FM radio station and connects to your phone's bluetooth.

If you're dead set on a new head unit, it doesn't really matter these days, just get a single din unit with whatever connectivity options you want. Keep in mind you usually get what you pay for, but paying more doesn't always mean you get more either.

[molten lotus]

can anyone reccomend away to eliminate mouse clicking getting picked from a blue yeti?

[formal moth]

Decrease the gain and place the microphone closer to your mouth

Alternatively, try RTX voice if you have an RTX card. It works pretty well for me

[molten lotus]

@formal moth people cant hear me clicking but its more for the recording software such as geforce shadowplay it gets caught up there the mic is relatively close to my mouth lol

rtx voice?

[formal moth]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/nvidia-rtx-voice-setup-guide/#:~:text=Us Your Feedback-,About RTX Voice,-NVIDIA RTX Voice

[formal moth]

Also if the mic is between you and your mouse be sure to select the cardioid pattern to hopefully block sounds from the rear of the mic.

[tranquil spindle]

I don’t have a cup holder in my car

[formal moth]

It doesn't have to go in a cup holder, mine sits on the floor, but they also have ones that clip into a vent or just sit in your cigarette lighter. Just search bluetooth FM transmitter and you can find all sorts of them.

[tranquil spindle]

I might just buy the stock tape deck

[quiet ice]

OMG guys look a t my new speaker !

[steep stream]

nice phat bass

never heard such clear audio before, i must inquire what is that magnificent speaker?

[ornate blaze]

Very very poor

[ripe thistle]

Here guys (and gals),

I have a hyperX cloud 2 helmet which I quite like, but it's a closed helmet and it actually puts to much pressure on my hears (I recently discovered i have tinnitus). what helmet with a mic would be good in an open design (cause apparently that would be better for my specific case) ?

[tender frost]

Sennheiser PC37x or PC38x

[ripe thistle]

they don't seem to show up in my area (france) on amazon at least

[open scaffold]

Prob would have to look it up as EPOS not sennheiser

Also LCD-GX is far better than PC37X and 38X

[tender frost]

It's also like 4 times as expensive

[dry stratus]

helmet .-.

[open scaffold]

I didn't see them specify a budget so 🤷‍♂️
Might as well give the actual best option, at least in terms of things that come made as a headset. Could do better with better headphones + modmic or separate mic, reg or lav

[slim mason]

I would legit take r70x + a separate mic any day over lcd-gx

[inland bobcat]

got da ltt xlr cable

also anyone else use these?

[molten lotus]

hi

audio nerds

[molten lotus]

cute

[tender frost]

Any interface that provides it has a button or switch to turn it off

That product is mostly stupid lol

[dry stratus]

Entirely imo

[inland bobcat]

I use a phantom power mic for my main and getting a vintage mic that I don't want to destroy

I'm kind of an idiot so I don't wanna forget it's plugged in and nuke it

[tender frost]

That is a problem that doesn't need money to be fixed

[inland bobcat]

You overestimate my mental capacity

[ancient solstice]

Looking to finally up my audio game after running on mid gaming headsets for as long as I can remember, but I'm not quite sure what's good right now. Looked at the dt 990 pro's, but I'm probably going to need an amp to power those at 250 ohms I'm assuming. Any recommendations for am AMP, or a pair of good headphones?

[inland bobcat]

Get the 80ohm version

[ancient solstice]

how big of a difference is there?

[inland bobcat]

Won't need an amp

Mine are perfect

I use a Yahama ag06 though

[tender frost]

880 pro are better and also 250 ohm version doesn't need an amp

[dawn thicket]

any good recommendations for good Studio monitors?

i was looking at genelec and krk

[dry stratus]

990 is just a worse 880

[dawn thicket]

get a 770

[dry stratus]

Ew, no

Worst of the three

[dawn thicket]

ew yes

i have all three and for me 770s sound the best

[inland bobcat]

990 is bigger than 880 this man lies to you

[dry stratus]

990 is just 880 but with the same issues more severe

[dry stratus]

770 has by far the most issues out of the three

[dawn thicket]

my 990s and 880 both suck ass

[dry stratus]

More like “I like the extra bass, so I prefer 770”

[inland bobcat]

I've been wanting to get the dt900 pro x

[dry stratus]

Have heard a bunch of people say the 900 is better than 990, but haven’t tried it myself

[inland bobcat]

The topic is very nerdy

I like my dt990s

But I listen to cassettes and 8 tracks so they already sound awful

[dry stratus]

For the most part, 990 is just an 880 but slightly worse issues… they say open vs semi open, but they basically just the same amount of open

[dawn thicket]

i dont prefer it because "ExTrA BaSs"

and i use Oratory1990 eq preset anyway

[unique wind]

dt770 has no bass

ill die on that hill

linear bass openbacks slam significantly harder and have more rumble

[molten lotus]

bro what

[molten lotus]

well use one for the dt880 and dt990 too then

also why do you have three beyer headphones that total for like 500$ and not one good headphone

[molten lotus]

tf is this

[inland bobcat]

Read

[molten lotus]

I did

I have no idea

what is a blocker connector

[inland bobcat]

Sounds like a you problem

Considering it explains itself

[molten lotus]

I can literally think of 15 fucking applications of a cable using the word blocker if you are illiterate enough to limit that to one understanding, it is a you issue

I recommend actually being an educated human being before belittling others

[unique wind]

it does say exactly what it does in its name

[molten lotus]

blocker literally can mean tens of things

[unique wind]

read it again

[molten lotus]

it doesn't say anything about what it is blocking

[unique wind]

and again

it does

it says it in the name

[molten lotus]

I thought it meant phantom power for a cable

as in a cable connector

because amazon seller naming abilities

[unique wind]

it blocks phantom power but passes through the signal otherwise unchanged

i dont know what circumstance itd be useful in because ive never seen a mic preamp where it was forced phantom power

[molten lotus]

mute button for condensers?

even if phantom power is forced

is there any reason to block it

not like it does anything to dynamics does it

[unique wind]

it can kill ribbon mics if i remember correctly and dynamics dont use it

but again you usually have to manually enable phantom power

[molten lotus]

I don't know about ribbons but dynamics don't get affected by it to my knowledge

[unique wind]

it doesnt kill dynamics but your mic wont work with it enabled

must be a very niche usecase

[inland bobcat]

I'm an idiot and I don't trust myself to disconnect vintage microphone after using it and going for my newer mic

Idiot proofing

[molten lotus]

why are you swapping mics

do you make music

[unique wind]

klaus always gotta question peoples' decisions

[inland bobcat]

Ikr

[unique wind]

what vintage ribbon mic do you have

im assuming thats what it is anyway

[inland bobcat]

Lomo mic from 60s

Ussr

[molten lotus]

it's a ribbon?

says its a dynamic

[unique wind]

that looks really clean for such an old mic

[molten lotus]

it looks great

yea

[molten lotus]

why do you need the phantom blocker for this

[inland bobcat]

I believe most were made for soviet institutions so prob sat in storage or in a studio most of its life

Like most microphones in ussr

[unique wind]

ah

[inland bobcat]

Didn't come with xlr

Modded

[unique wind]

what connector did it use originally

[inland bobcat]

Some wierd one

Hold on

[inland bobcat]

I think this is original

[unique wind]

weird

[inland bobcat]

I think I'm gonna get a Shure SM57 next

Same as what presidents have been using since 60s

[unique wind]

i have one

it's extremely overrated and doesnt sound good for vocals at all without extensive processing

it's made for mic'ing instruments and instrument amps, not voices, im not sure why presidents use it

[unique wind]

if i had to guess it's because it's small and extremely durable

[inland bobcat]

Current

Main

[karmic patio]

any ideas on a good bluetooth speaker for the bathroom? i'm no audiophile and i don't want something too expensive just need to be able to hear it through washing my hair. the last nice speaker i had was a JBL (gifted) that finally died two years back. I replaced it with the oontz angle 3 (good reviews and price on amazon) and the sound was so quiet, i could barely hear is over the shower. I was wondering if there is a cheaper brand that's worth the money.

[latent mauve]

I have a sound blaster X3 and the normalizer (Smart Volume) is useless, barely works properly. Is there a 3rd party utility that can provide a normalizer between the X3 and Windows?

The additional sound settings is missing the usual Windows Normalizer, seems like SB disabled it.

[lean grove]

Ue wonderboom is what I use.

[karmic patio]

what do you use it for, not to be nosy

[lean grove]

Anytime I need a speaker or in the shower.

Like idk man. What do you use a Bluetooth speaker for

[unique wind]

[unique wind]

(b-stock) hifiman he400se $80 and hifiman edition XS $400 on the hifiman website rn

pretty decent deals

[lean grove]

How many 400se's are you getting

[molten lotus]

not enough

build speaker array with he400se drivers

[unique wind]

i think ill get two more and run them in 3.0 surround

[molten lotus]

no no

do 2.2

build a 100hz crossover

[marble summit]

My microphone just stopped working today, do I ask about this here or in #1027757333117415424 ?

just yesterday it was working fine, but now my scarlett doesn't even see that it exists

[molten lotus]

sounds like your average scarlett driver issue

[cedar arch]

looking for a solid audio interface, is there a better bang for your buck option than the umc22?

[molten lotus]

m track solo

coming from an umc22 owner

also um2 is also better price/performance since its the same thing

just cheaper

[cedar arch]

i'll check it out, thanks

[cobalt sparrow]

avg raycon enjoyer

[nova frost]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/quick-look-moondrop-quarks-dsp/

[hollow lantern]

What’s the best headset for gaming that is not way over priced

[nova frost]

i like how it's priced $329 when I got them for $250 then EPOS supported them and the price went down. it's bin at this price for a while. mic on it somewhat sucks but if you have a sound blaster soundcard I would recommend these

[haughty moon]

Sennheiser pc37x or pc38x on drop

[lean grove]

I'd still go with the pc37x over those

They look like they got wacky treble and sealing issues with the pads.

[nova frost]

yeah the original pads did fall apart because they where not sewn together so I got $40 ones they are not memory foam (they lie) but are sewn.

[nova frost]

treble dose get sharp when you turn surround on

it's useful in music

I just max the volume on the headset since it draws in power and use the volume between 10-30%

the volume nob can loose contact over use

[lean grove]

Yeah I'd still get pc37x over those.

[nova frost]

enjoy vibrating your ears >:3
https://soundcloud.com/electronicdancework/the-return-of-pestilencewav

[cobalt sparrow]

Almost 3 months- heres what I think.
So I use the autoeq profile for these IEMs. I also use the eq preset below. I have been using the foam tips, however if you choose the same path I do, be prepared to also get a "subscription" of foam ear tips. I burn through a 10pk of tips in about a month and a half. (your mileage may vary) I find them super comfortable when they are in, however it will take a minute to compress the foam and such. It is slightly painful to put them in, but once they settle it is like they dont exist. And everything around you basically doesn't exist, too. I find that the isolation is farrr better with the foam than the silicone tips, and it doesn't hurt me over time like the silicone ones do.
The sound (without eq) I think is the same quality if not higher than my he400se. I still have the issue with 3khz with these IEM's, however i also had that issue with every single earbud I have owned before (ZSNPROX, chus)

(Edit- the foam ones add a warmer tone to the IEMs)

I find that I can actually hear some soundstage, and like I will freak out if I hear faint whispers (in like a song), pause the song and question if it was the song or IRL, especially when the environment around me is quiet.

Sorry for the essay lmao

[foggy scarab]

What are the best headphones for gaming? I would also need a mic for comms, anything relatively cheap, but durable and high quality please

[lean grove]

pc37x or pc38x

if you can get a 560s + external mic that'd be even better

[foggy scarab]

Good external mic? And what’s the pricing?

[lean grove]

pc37x is about $100, pc38x is about $150
560s is about $150 external mic + boom arm is gonna be about $40

[foggy scarab]

But what mic though?

Does it come with one?

[lean grove]

oh right

fifine usb mic and a neewer boom arm

[foggy scarab]

Thanks

I’ll look into it

[violet heron]

https://www.amazon.com/Units-Balanced-Microphone-Custom-Neutrik/dp/B0979LZRW2/ is something like this worth getting over some other cheap cable

[foggy scarab]

I don’t have anything that uses those cables

[molten lotus]

No

[tender frost]

Fancy cables are just if you like the aesthetics

Think of it like jewellery
It won't do anything new except look nice lol

[tired ermine]

Looking for something similar to the Sennheiser GSP 300 but wireless. The razer kraken pro v3 doesn't sound that good and is way more expensive.

But 150/160 euros is fine.

[onyx sonnet]

Don’t buy really cheap, just decent as XLR if not shielded well has a habit of picking up RF, you can end up picking AM radio on on a recording

[onyx sonnet]

At for XLR and TRS when you’re transmitting really faint signals, for a dynamic mics it’s especially important as you have jack the gain super hard. It’s pretty easy for bad cables to pick up noise.

Speaker wire you can just use lamp wire and it won’t make any difference

[molten lotus]

I have an odd question

Would I be better off spending $60 on 3 pairs of salnotes zeros or is there something that would be a sound upgrade?

[unique wind]

tangzu wan’er

[molten lotus]

Those are$25.

Is there a new budget king?

[unique wind]

yeah tangzu wan’er

$19 on linsoul

[lethal mirage]

hey guuys, i have some old logitech speakers, i can confirm that they work perfectly but ecvery now and then itll only play out of the left speaker, and when i switch the right and left speaker cables, it plays trough the right one, but this is a 50/50 chance that they both play music

it never switches fast, it either stays left speaker for a while and randomly becomes all speakers, or stays all speakers until randomly becoming left speaker only

[teal lantern]

Anyone know any good sound bars? Not to expensive

[molten lotus]

don't buy a soundbar

[unreal tree]

I'm looking for a £100~ pair of decent wireless over ear headphones Preferably with noise cancelling, but i cant find any good ones around that price point. If anyone has some suggestions I would greatly appreciate it

[hasty grail]

I'm pretty happy with the Razer Barracuda X, idk if considered good by your standards

[unreal tree]

its a lot below the price point I was looking for but it looks decent so ty

[dry stratus]

no, don't
please no

AKG N700NC(M2) is currently the cheapest wireless headphone that's any good

[dry stratus]

by audio standards, its dogshit at least

[unreal tree]

ok the akg's look a lot better

[hasty grail]

wdym

[unreal tree]

but there are two different ones on amazon with a £70 price gap but they say they are the same

[dry stratus]

there is an OG and M2

[unreal tree]

£229 is over twice what im willing to spend

[dry stratus]

the second is closer to what it should be at least

should cost about 130-160

[dry stratus]

sound quality, actual balance, etc
something razer doesn't do
I get it tho, its targeted at "loud = good, vroooooom"
(even if it means it also sucks for games)

[teal lantern]

I’m getting it to fill space

[unreal tree]

should just go ahead and buy the second one then? or should i look elsewhere for a better deal?

[molten lotus]

don't buy a soundbar

[dry stratus]

always worth it to look

[hasty grail]

i mean I don't doubt that there are better models, but it's definitely way better than cheaper headphones I've used before. Many people are not used to high end audio

for now it's perfectly fine for me

[molten lotus]

yes

[dry stratus]

I mean, there is audio for 15-25$ that is better
not wireless tho
even if there are 40-50$ TWS that are better

[hasty grail]

i have noticed tho that for some reason the audio quality is way worse when using a cable instead of the wireless dongle

[molten lotus]

just don't recommend any audio gamer products period

it's just shit 95% of the time

[dry stratus]

except for PC38x and Cloud II for those that need the mic attached to their headphones

[hasty grail]

are they at least decent in terms of latency tho

[dry stratus]

there currently is no option with good sound and good latency in a single package
at best decent/fine

[molten lotus]

yea but isn't 38x similar to 600s?

[hasty grail]

in that case, isnt leaning more towards the latency side kinda the point of a "gaming" headphone

[unreal tree]

btw @dry stratus do you know what the mic quality is like on the AKG N700nc m2?

[molten lotus]

tfw you realise you can have the best of both worlds with wired

[unique wind]

con have you heard arya

[dry stratus]

its fine, same for ANC
for lot better ANC with bit worse sound you're looking at Bose quiet comfort
it costs quite a ton more tho

[hasty grail]

i do prefer the convenience of wireless

[dry stratus]

OG arya yes, arya stealth no
I did like it tho
probably the one I would choose 1000-2000$

[unique wind]

arya stealth looks really nice

[hasty grail]

the next time I upgrade my headphones I'm definitely gonna do better research but definitely not my priority for upgrades rn

[molten lotus]

my adhd would make me put it somewhere random and forget where itis

[dry stratus]

just be like me and barely own anything instead
can't lose if you have no where else to look than floor or couch

[hasty grail]

i dont mind wires for keyboards and mice but being able to freely walk around while listening to music is very nice

[molten lotus]

I live with my parents in a 3 bedroom apartment

[dry stratus]

imagine walking around while playing games (wireless gaming headsets kinda dumb)
wireless for outdoor, yes

[hasty grail]

i mean i use it both for gaming and for music of course

[dry stratus]

I've stopped using wired mice for a long while

too annoying

[molten lotus]

I get it , but I use my speakers 90% of the time so I don't really care about headphones

[hasty grail]

i think headphones is the most annoying wires to me

[unique wind]

@dry stratus looks like your preference curve

dip in subbass and upper mid to low treble

[dry stratus]

too much gone

just give me like KSC75 bass + hifiman dip

[molten lotus]

my speakers

[cobalt sparrow]

JBL tune 710bt

[dry stratus]

I don't speak math, why are you only showing 102, 103 and 104hz

[unique wind]

fr

[cobalt sparrow]

what

[molten lotus]

10^2 = 100 , 10^3 = 100 , 10^4 = 10,000

[unique wind]

hes trolling

[cobalt sparrow]

please tell me ur jokin

[molten lotus]

oh

[cobalt sparrow]

oh good

[molten lotus]

good

I'm not good with sarcasm

[unique wind]

conpin isnt a human being and has really weird audio preferences but hes not dumb

[dry stratus]

my 1 brain cell

[molten lotus]

how does the graph look for 60$ speakers tho ❓

[cobalt sparrow]

Speaking of which, what are some good monitors for around 100

[unique wind]

looks like a 6db mid cut so they're v-shaped but probably sound decent for small cheap speakers

hard to argue with $60

[molten lotus]

mids a lot better than my previous soundbar, I just miss the sub bass

any way to add a sub?

they don't have an output

there's pretty much nothing till 60hz

@dry stratus?

like is there a soundcard I can add and configure crossover

[dry stratus]

this would be an Easy EQ

all I did:

[molten lotus]

I thought monoprice made cheap stuff , not $1k headphones

[lean grove]

That's cheap for an amt headphone

[molten lotus]

what's amt? I only know automated manual transmission

[lean grove]

Air motion transformer.

It's like a planar driver, but folded like an accordion

[molten lotus]

oh

that sounds cool

I'll check it out

[lean grove]

There was the heddphone which people had a lot of hype around

Until people actually bought it

[molten lotus]

which?

[lean grove]

Heddphone

[molten lotus]

💀

[lean grove]

Now they're very easy to find used

[molten lotus]

I was on memebrain keyboard for couple days

because I spilled water on my mech , now I switched back coz it's dried and its so loud

[unique wind]

membrane > most prebuilt mechanicals tbh

[molten lotus]

nah , feels much better

[dry stratus]

am bored

[molten lotus]

uhh

[unique wind]

this is the ideal curve

[unique wind]

oh god no bro

[dry stratus]

which of the two?

[unique wind]

factory

[molten lotus]

why I'm just squeezing the bass out coz these got very less of it

[unique wind]

they dont have any on purpose

they cant produce it without distortion

[molten lotus]

it doesn't sound bad

I use them at sub 30% volume

prolly causes distortion at higher volume

@unique wind

[muted mural]

What noise cancelling headphones are great for gaming and also have perfect sound Signature

[unique wind]

that doesnt exist

[atomic ridge]

What headphones would you guys recommend for gaming and decent sound? By gaming at this point I just mean 5.1 and built in mic, preferably under $300. Right now I've got a pair of some razer ones and I cant stand the flat sound at this point

[nova wagon]

flat sound
you mean no bass?

[atomic ridge]

No like, the EQ does practically nothing, no bass no nothing really

[nova wagon]

well eq can only do so much

[unique wind]

5.1/7.1 surround on headphones is marketing garbage but if you want the best headset (includes microphone) that would be the sennheiser pc38x

it has a neutral sound profile though not bass boosted

if you want extra bass and are willing to use a separate microphone then check out the akg k371

[nova wagon]

anyway, thats the story for another day
are you from the us?

in the us i should said

[atomic ridge]

No I'm in Sweden, but have access to most US Amazon stuff

[nova wagon]

https://www.hifiklubben.se/audeze-maxwell-gaming-headset/audmaxwellpsbk/
may i interested you in this if you want to stick with the traditional integrated headset form factor?

[tender frost]

Nice, Jotunheim has arrived

Just need to get home from work 🙃

[unique wind]

[tender frost]

I was not expecting this much of a difference actually

wow lmao

[white gate]

https://tenor.com/view/music-headphones-listeningtomusic-listentomusic-myjam-gif-5031438

[unique wind]

silver jot is very pretty i’m happy for u

[lean grove]

Is this the jot2?

[tender frost]

Yeah

[molten lotus]

you said something about good spending habits?

[tender frost]

That I don't have them, yeah

[unique wind]

no it’s good spending habits because big pretty metal box with switches and knobs

[molten lotus]

buy bigger boxes with increasingly more knobs and switches

[unique wind]

that’s how you get closer to hifi

[tepid torrent]

More knobs=better soundstage

[steel escarp]

@molten lotus

imagine if they made the tuning good

lmao studio trusted

wouldn't let an audeze in a 100km range near my studio if I had one

[unique wind]

i dont know how audeze isnt bankrupt

[molten lotus]

would be fucking insane if they made worthwhile shit for 400$

[unique wind]

would be insane if they made anything worthwhile at all

[molten lotus]

lcd x and r are allegedly good

[unique wind]

allegedly good.. if you get a good sample.. just order 5 pairs and keep the best one

[dry stratus]

LCD-X range from raycon to KSC75 levels of bass from experience at least

[unique wind]

point proven

[dry stratus]

and the R was limited iirc

[unique wind]

how does audeze still exist

[molten lotus]

r is limited yeah

[unique wind]

is the market for rich guys who just buy headphones for fun actually big enough to keep them in business

because that's all they have

[lean grove]

Well the Maxwell is apparently goated at $300 for wireless headsets.

[unique wind]

i think that's because it's the only wireless headset that doesnt outright suck

[dry stratus]

LCD-2, LCD-2C and LCD-X are quite popular ig

[molten lotus]

im curious how it compares to the other stuff

open backs and all

[unique wind]

considering their best selling headphone only has 19 website reviews i dont know

i really dont know how they can afford to stay in business

maybe their team is very small

[dry stratus]

Not many websites that review audio that isn’t sony, sennheiser, etc

[unique wind]

no i mean on the audeze website

on the page for the lcd-x

there's only 19 customer reviews and that's their most popular headphone

(i cant confirm) but i would assume that people who are buying such expensive headphones are far more likely to leave reviews too

oh hey it has 20 now someone mustve heard me

[dry stratus]

Customer reviews are useless anyway

[unique wind]

i agree im not using it to gauge how good they are

[dry stratus]

Its just shills and twitter users

[unique wind]

i just dont think they sell very many headphones so im surprised theyre in business

[dry stratus]

Twitter = newest swear word

Twitter user in dictionary someday: someone who feels the need to go apeshit over everything just because they didn’t agree with the message 100%, and continue to harass the original poster for decades

[dry stratus]

Probably have sold enough, considering lcd-2C used to be sub 1000 king according to many for quite a while

[plush hedge]

Twitter

[lean grove]

Nobody is buying direct from audeze tho

Check Amazon, headphones.com, apos.

[unique wind]

youre right im shocked

it has more reviews than the hifiman arya on headphones.com

well that's the arya stealth which is more recent but yeah

[lean grove]

I also see audeze in a ton of brick and mortar stores as well.

I never see hifiman

[unique wind]

ive never seen anything remotely audiophile anywhere so i cant comment on that

the best buy locations near me dont even sell pc parts

[dry stratus]

Imagine even having pc parts sold anywhere other than online

[unique wind]

i cant imagine

[dry stratus]

Hobbies don’t exist here, dell and apple laptops and desktop, samsung, oppo and apple phones
Sony, skullcandy, bose and Sennheiser, jbl audio

And ofc samsung and lg TV

That’s all

Rest basically online only

[unique wind]

same here

[molten lotus]

My headphones aren't allowed to die

[unique wind]

absolutely not they gotta keep it pushin

[lean grove]

Pushing p

[unique wind]

exactly nils

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/pushingp-pushing-pushin-p-gif-24534645

[weak rapids]

3 of mine have broke and I broke 1

My old Razer Man O Wars i left on my chair and sat on them and they broke

Then through warranty they gave me Razer Naris which eventually the metal pieces holding the earcups broke

Then through warranty again I got a new pair which just “broke” the left driver is constantly working and not working and I have to smack it to get it to work

[unique wind]

i broke two pairs of krakens myself

[weak rapids]

My really old like 2013 krakens are still fine, just the cable was low quality and is split open

But they still work however I havent used them since like 2018

[inland bobcat]

rode arm x LTT straps

[unique wind]

ltt plug

[inland bobcat]

I got the orange xlr cable to match too

[unique wind]

swag

[restive rivet]

Hey, is this channel also good to discuss audio software (ie Carla)? I made a bit of a janky setup with it and would like some advice on a better setup if this channel is fitting for it
(If so, this is my question):
||I am using Pipewire for audio, and I use Carla to route audio to my liking. My end goal is to separate specific sources (like firefox etc) from being included in what is recorded in OBS. Like, if I'm playing a game while recording, I won't want anything I am playing in firefox to be recorded.
I have 3 options for audio related things. My headphones, my Monitors sound thing, and my Blue Yeti Microphone playback. What I did so far for my goal to "work", was in my audio settings I set my primary device as my monitors sound card. This way all sound goes to it by default. Then in Carla, I routed the monitor cards Monitor tab to my Headphones so I can hear everything that goes through the monitor card, allowing me to hear normally. (This way I can just route the Monitor Cards Monitor tab to OBS's input and have it act as the Desktop Audio).
I then set Firefox to my Microphone Playback (something my blue yeti has to, I guess, test audio using a headphone jack) rather than my Monitor Card. This way it does not get included in the Monitor Cards routing to OBS' Desktop Audio while being able to route to my headphones.
The point of doing this as opposed to just setting Firefox to my headphones is so that, if I did want to share Firefox audio in a recording, I could route it to the Desktop Audio (or other) input in OBS.
TLDR:

• End goal is separating sources from being recorded in OBS
• I set my default audio to my Monitors Sound card and routed its Monitor tab to my Headphones and OBS' Desktop Audio input in Carla.
• I set Firefox to my Microphones Playback and just routed my Microphones Monitor tab to only my headphones to avoid it being recorded in OBS via Desktop Audio, the reason I didn't just set it to route to my headphones outright was so I could share it if desired, since if I routed my headphones Monitor tab over to OBS, it'd share everything I hear and I don't want that.
  It's a very janky setup and I would like advice on how I can do this in a less janky fashion.||

[molten lotus]

They still work fine surprisingly

[molten lotus]

why did you spoiler this

[restive rivet]

Incase it wasn’t an appropriate channel, I didn’t want to waste anyone’s time.

[molten lotus]

Is the zen can air worth it or would I be better off getting the zen can?

latter

though the prior is supposedly also decent

but it's just hearsay

[dapper relic]

got new speakers for my computer

yes my desk is a mess and my camera on my phone is garb

[spice dust]

Nils do you use TikTok

[lean grove]

ive never even heard of this tick tack

[spice dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877761626172952576/1092206915825700874/v0f044gc0000cgf22krc77u11hr0qh40.mp4

[nova wagon]

Which obs version are you using ATM?

[restive rivet]

29.0.2-2

[nova wagon]

Oh then you could just negate all of that
OBS now includes a plugin called advanced audio capture, which lets you choose to capture audio from a specific program. Then with multi audio track enabled, you can choose a specific audio track that will record Firefox sounds only.

[restive rivet]

Where can I find the plugin?

[nova wagon]

its the first option when you open the add new sources box

@restive rivet

[restive rivet]

Ah, is that a windows only feature?

[nova wagon]

you are using linux?

[restive rivet]

I am

[nova wagon]

then the bake in is indeed windows only
i found one that works with linux tho, give it a shothttps://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-pulseaudio-app-capture.1436/

[restive rivet]

Hmm, I don't think this will work unfortunately. It mentions that it uses the Pulseaudio server, but I am on Pipewire. I wonder though if that matters.
I appreciate the feedback

[nova wagon]

Similar to the win-capture-audio plugin by bozbez that allows for the capturing of audio from specific applications except for systems that use PulseAudio as their main sound server

[nova wagon]

except pulseaudio

so anything thats not pulseaudio would work

[restive rivet]

Oh I'm blind

[nova wagon]

according to their description

[restive rivet]

Ty for pointing that out to me

I did not see the word except

Then yeah I could give this a try

[unique wind]

@molten lotus

[molten lotus]

why

shop?

[quiet ice]

gus i have xtereme base

[molten lotus]

An hour later of tuning

[spice dust]

he has 4 pairs of ears

[blissful bison]

can i ask something about obs here?

my obs seem to not show the real colors

[ancient solstice]

oh really? And I actually don't need an amp either? 250 ohms just sounded like a lot, so I just assumed that my motherboard wouldn't be able to power that

[tender frost]

Impedance and sensitivity are the two factors that you should care about, and those headphones are sensitive enough

[inland bobcat]

I hate elgato customer support

My new mic arm got a scuff on the mount and they told me I'd have to buy a whole new arm instead of just selling me the clamp

[molten lotus]

return the entire thing

[slim mason]

Stay away from the pro models

More expensive for no reason at all, same exact sound but with an annoying coiled cable and more clamping force

[molten lotus]

there might not be a non pro version of dt880

beyer has this weird thing where some of it's headphones only have pro versions

[buoyant vale]

they have an 'edition' and a pro version

[slim mason]

Dt880 edition

Edition is the normal version, it used to be just dt880 but a few years ago they just changed it to edition

[dawn thicket]

any recommendations for studio monitors?

[slim mason]

Genelecs are always the safe bet in most budgets

[dawn thicket]

aight

[dawn thicket]

should i go for the 8320a ? i dont sit very far from the source

[white gate]

What budget?

[dawn thicket]

~400 Euros

[lean grove]

Assuming they fit in the budget at all

[molten lotus]

jbl 305p is my go to for that much and they are pretty good

But I can't proclaim they are the best you can get for 400$

[slim mason]

theyre solid

[dawn thicket]

oke

[haughty girder]

they're very competent, but for relatively close listening you can hear some hiss from the amp

unfortunately

I think it's important to know whether a driver responds well to eq, though

I like to know if I can crank the bass once in a while without the drivers distorting

[weak rapids]

That part is true, I just personally believe when rating/judging sound quality and stuff like how neutral it is, EQ should never be a factor in the decision

My old razer naris distorted like hell with EQ lol

[haughty girder]

yep

[haughty girder]

not quite new, but easily my top rec

[cobalt sparrow]

Update- 2 days later, just went to a doctor bcuz of an earache. Turns out, there was a massive wax build up. Literally more wax than I have ever seen. She said to stop using these lmao

[crisp pewter]

i have a basic sony bluetooth headphones (WH-CH510) Should I Get Logitech G535 lightspeed

[cobalt sparrow]

@molten lotus

[molten lotus]

lol

plausible

er2se has health warnings like this

[cobalt sparrow]

Well, any good iems for around the same price?

[lean grove]

Skill issue

Did she tell you to get some mineral drops

[cobalt sparrow]

Nope.

I also have an ear infection in left ear

[lean grove]

I currently have the same thing, unrelated to iems tho

Doctor told me to get some mineral oil drops.

[cobalt sparrow]

Nah im getting pill omoxicillin

[lean grove]

Well yeah

But this is like. Over the counter ear cleaning stuff

[cobalt sparrow]

Ohhh

No she said there was this brand of ear cleaning stuff

[lean grove]

There's also otoscopes

Which have a lil camera

So you can clean your ears properly without pushing stuff in further

[cobalt sparrow]

Ah

Interesting

Anyone know of any iems around 100 that are good

[molten lotus]

Clean your ears dude

[molten lotus]

Your ears, clean them dude

[polar stag]

Need a mic and headset for gaming preferably wireless headset as for mic both are ok

[foggy scarab]

Are headphones ok? Or does it need a mic on it?

I’m no good at audio, but these people who are usually like clarification

[polar stag]

Yeah both are ok I was going for a seperate mic and headset lemme send the links

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B4M323/blue-microphones-yeti-usb-microphone-blackout-edition

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wTcG3C/steelseries-arctis-nova-pro-wireless-for-pc-ps5-and-ps4-headset-61520

Heard there's better options tho

[cobalt sparrow]

With what? It was super deep in ear

[molten lotus]

Earwax is a liquid deep in ear. You either have a medical issue or are pushing dried external earwax deeper with your headphones.

[haughty girder]

pretty normal

[haughty girder]

Pls no

That headset gonna last a year then break somehow

that's just modern steelseries

[polar stag]

💀

[haughty girder]

as for the mic, it's overpriced

it's not really good at anything other than hype

and it's huge

[polar stag]

What should I go for then?

[haughty girder]

do you need wireless for the headphones?

[polar stag]

Yes please I hate wired headphones cause I tend to move alot

[haughty girder]

do you need low latency

[polar stag]

Preferably yeah

I was using first ps headset before and thought it was good but idrk audio feels the same to me or maybe uust cause I never really got a good quality headset

[cobalt gyro]

anyone got suggestions for low latency wireless headphones?

(max price is like 150 dollars i'm not rich)

[tepid torrent]

Audeze maxwell

Or get something with a longer cable

[polar stag]

Just in general headset cable just dont suit me I walk around the house w my headset 💀

[polar stag]

Heard that before

It's the best rn then?

[tepid torrent]

Pretty much

[polar stag]

Can u drop the link

Also need a mic

[bitter hollow]

maxwell has a (mediocre) mic

[polar stag]

Nah yall playin w me 😭

[tepid torrent]

Its on preorder rn

Go to audezes site

[tepid torrent]

It should be fine unless you run a podcast or something

[polar stag]

So no need for a seperate mic?

[tepid torrent]

not unless you feel like you need one

[polar stag]

I wont be doing podcasts but videos and streams will it be enough?

[tepid torrent]

Sure

As long as your voice is intelligible the quality of the voice shouldnt be as important

[polar stag]

Wdym

Like is the quality meh or can I be heard clearly is it far close?

[tepid torrent]

Its fine

Nothing special

[polar stag]

This one yeah? https://www.audeze.com/products/maxwell-wireless-gaming-headset

Says ps or xbox ver I am guesing it works on pc too

[tepid torrent]

Yes

If its anything like other headsets I would get xbox

because then it will work on xbox and pc

[mint prism]

does it use a different connection for mic and headphones? or does it work in headset mode?

[tepid torrent]

PS might only work on ps consoles

You can detach the mic

[polar stag]

So ps doesnt work on pc thata stupid asf fr

[tepid torrent]

Microsoft might not let them idk

[polar stag]

Here I will check

Should right?

[mint prism]

depending on the version you purchase

also does hsp/hfp still kinda ass

or is it replaced?

[broken slate]

Any recommendations for over the ear headphones and mics?

[polar stag]

So I have to go w xbox?

[unique wind]

• akg k371 - closed back headphones
• sennheiser hd560s - open back headphones
• sennheiser pc38x - open back gaming headset (has microphone)
• fifine 669 or 683 - budget usb microphones

[broken slate]

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-Over-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B08J9MVB6W/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=sennheiser+hd560s&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0 this thing?

[lean grove]

Yes

[pearl panther]

I Just got the HD560s about a month ago. I love them and I have it paired with a Audio Technica at2020 going into a Focusrite Scarlett solo

[atomic ridge]

Are there any differences between the E10KTC and the E10K other than just usb c?

[lean grove]

i was gonna make a joke about the e10k being an overpriced uncompetitive dac amp made in 2014 and the e10ktc, 7 years later, is still overpriced and uncompetitive.
but as it turns out its the same exact hardware except the type c has a fancy new USB controller.

[atomic ridge]

Any new/better dac/amp combo you could recommend? Preferably under 100$?

[lean grove]

under $100 I would get some sort of CX31993 dongle, which are usually quite clean sounding and powerful enough for most headphones, so that I can save up for a proper amp like a schiit magni or jds atom.

alternatively you can get the ifi uno

which i havent heard much about

so that ones less safe

[atomic ridge]

schiit magni+ is just 109$, is that the one you meant?

[lean grove]

yes

its just an amp, no dac

so thats why you should get a clean little dongle dac to pair with it if you're just starting out

[weak rapids]

ooooh

interesting

got a song that i occasionally listen to thats actually loud enough to leak through my hd560s into my mic lol

[weak rapids]

aight make that 2 songs lol

[dusty kettle]

I have suboofers for my truck, do I talk about it here or in cars?

Subwoofers*

[inner dock]

hey guys

is the tuf headset any good?

found it kinda cheapo

[dry stratus]

no

[inner dock]

alr

Time for suboofers

[dry stratus]

asus + audio won't be good ever honestly

[inner dock]

interesting

[dry stratus]

asus is as zoomer design as it comes after all

cyberpunk/military design

unless they stop targeting children that are insanely into cyberpunk and military ofc
which is when it is no longer popular with kids

[inner dock]

design over priority!

(+100$ more)

[glad flame]

After a lot of research I have for a wireless pair of headphones, I have came down to these 2 options:

Audio Technica ATH-M20xBT or 1MORE SonoFlow ANC

I was looking for some cheap wireless headphones with or without anc, good sound quality and will be using them for music/movies at home or commuting around

[dry stratus]

neither

[glad flame]

could you elaborate on that

[dry stratus]

neither are good

[glad flame]

what should i get then?

[dry stratus]

budget?

[glad flame]

$100 usd

[ornate blaze]

WAHEEEEY

WAAAHEEEEEY

This is the most silly thing I’ve done but I can confirm, it works, it’s loud, nothing is broken

[lean grove]

Where'd you put the third woofer

[dry stratus]

in his seating probs

[ornate blaze]

Haha

That was a loud journey

[dry stratus]

what is on top of the washing machine

[ornate blaze]

Can confirm it made my arm hairs shake - how immature

[ornate blaze]

Clothes dryer

I’m in the uk, kitchens here don’t typically have a separate utility space

[dry stratus]

hate those
f's up your clothes more often

[ornate blaze]

Make sure you don’t use one

[dry stratus]

I just have a room dedicated to drying, lel

and sleep in the living room

[lean grove]

I'm sure everyone you drove past thought you were really cool

[dry stratus]

a sad little boi*

[ornate blaze]

FYI - it was turned down in residential areas

Because I’m actually courteous

[dry stratus]

nah, just be the man child with his loud cheap broken used car and blasting bass everywhere like he is the king of the world

too many of those exist sadly..

[ornate blaze]

Are you aggravated by what I’ve shared? 😂

Or are you talking in general

[dry stratus]

in general

that's basically my stereotype of "that 19-28 year old guy with aviators, baseball cap, sports clothes and his mom's old car falling half apart but "modded" to be as loud as possible"

[ornate blaze]

Ahhhh I see

[lean grove]

Con-pin hates bass

[dry stratus]

that too

[ornate blaze]

Aww

[dry stratus]

can't handle it anyway

[ornate blaze]

I see

[dry stratus]

too nauseating

[ornate blaze]

Gosh

[dry stratus]

well, bloat, rumble, etc does

[ornate blaze]

I was listening to Motown for most of the journey so what you’re referring to wasn’t a thing

[unique wind]

conpin isnt a human being

[dry stratus]

My very human wrist

[cobalt sparrow]

how do you fall

[dry stratus]

uhhh..
by falling?

[cobalt sparrow]

I mean like without breaking

[dry stratus]

by not falling

[buoyant vale]

No wonder you don't like bass, it'd probably shake you apart

[molten lotus]

what the fuck

are you ai generated

[dry stratus]

no

[lean grove]

That's carmon

[dry stratus]

Older pic

[dry stratus]

^^

[unique wind]

hold your hand up normally bro

[lean grove]

I'm trying to find the Photoshop traces but it's not there

[dry stratus]

?

[dry stratus]

this?

[molten lotus]

carmon is just gpt2

[molten lotus]

i think we are onto something

[ocean pulsar]

google has a canned response

it responded far too fast for that to be generated on the fly

regardless of how i ask it, it wants me to dox myself lmao

[lean grove]

There's no way he's passing any of those

Maybe a captcha

But I'm not sure

[dry stratus]

send us an DNA sample

[wispy zephyr]

hey guys not sure if this is the right place to ask this but do you guys have good headphones recommendations for a fair price?

40$ - 65$?

[covert kite]

what the headphones for?

gaming?

edting?

listening to yameii's new fire album candy?

[wispy zephyr]

gaming, listening to music and calls

[wispy zephyr]

lol

[covert kite]

so you can sacrifice audio accuracy for something tuned for a more "enjoyable" auditory experience to consume content such as music and games 🤓

[lean grove]

Check out the creative aurvana live or koss porta pros.

[covert kite]

YO YOU 14? @wispy zephyr a non adult like me

[covert kite]

nah nah this is mine

im linus

lemme help him

[lean grove]

You're annoying

[wispy zephyr]

wdym

[covert kite]

your existence is annyoing to your parents

[covert kite]

he lying

[lean grove]

Those are headphones.
Koss porta pros.
Creative aurvana live.

[covert kite]

this the budget?

[wispy zephyr]

just awnser my question pls.

[wispy zephyr]

yes maybe a bit higher

[covert kite]

💔

[wispy zephyr]

oh okay

[covert kite]

okok

@wispy zephyr you need a mic on your headphones?

[wispy zephyr]

preferably or I could buy mic separately if better quality for lower price

[covert kite]

from experience, for gaming and vc its better to gave mic on headphones

unless you have a mic stand

[covert kite]

https://hyperx.com/products/hyperx-cloud-alpha-naruto-edition-gaming-headset?variant=42893378289821&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_r6hBhDdARIsAMIDhV9md6Kq97XZbRbi7bIwq52Bz6Frlg7hEygMFMfKAYucLH51fQjefXUaAi3cEALw_wcB

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Headset-Blue-Technology/dp/B07PDFBJZD/ref=asc_df_B07PDFBJZD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366299147412&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7710877426308938835&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026828&hvtargid=pla-794503516526&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=73640427742&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366299147412&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7710877426308938835&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9026828&hvtargid=pla-794503516526

[wispy zephyr]

I'm sorry but why are the first ones so ugly ;-;

[covert kite]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-hs80-rgb-wired-dolby-atmos-gaming-headset-for-pc-with-broadcast-grade-omni-directional-microphone-carbon/6506968.p?skuId=6506968&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_r6hBhDdARIsAMIDhV-wxWiWRZZZPr0km8ArTFklUY9HPY2RpNscr4-mBogiHrQtGCnGDh4aAqakEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[covert kite]

he a boomer, has no taste

[lean grove]

Yeah unfortunately. But they sound good. And they're very durable.

[covert kite]

he doesnt need allat 💯

he needs headphones tuned for gaming

and a good mic for calls

and rgb.

[wispy zephyr]

i didn't mention rgb

[covert kite]

shush

[wispy zephyr]

i actually think it's a waste ;-;

[covert kite]

every gamer needs rgb

[covert kite]

[wispy zephyr]

do the second ones have a included mic?

[lean grove]

Not that I know of.

[covert kite]

my guy... i sent three headphones

[lean grove]

You'd need to get a little fifine or a lapel mic

[wispy zephyr]

about the creative aurnava live, can you compare me the audio quality of them vs the blackshark v2 x?

[lean grove]

Haven't tried the blakchsarks but looking at data online, for bass, they're gonna have a bit more rumble and a bit less bomp. They extend deeper but won't hit as hard. Treble might be kinda similar enough.

They're gonna sound a bit more natural and probably a little bit more boring. They got shallow cups too so they sit on your ears rather than going over and around them.

[wispy zephyr]

So the audio quality is basically the same?

Not making decisions to buy the blacksharks or not, just asking

[ocean pulsar]

the older blacksharks sounded quite muffled to me, unless theyve improved quite significantly the cals will be quite obviously more clear

[foggy scarab]

What is a good detachable mic that I can put into my Astro A40s?

[lean grove]

I haven't heard black sharks, so I'm just looking at rough strokes.

[wispy zephyr]

Okay, what about a separate microphone in the range of 55$?

[lean grove]

Fifine USB mic with a mic arm.

Most USB condensers are fine. You can easily get a sound demo for most of them on YouTube and listen for any hissing or weird electrical noises

[atomic ridge]

Hey Nils, I asked you yesterday about amps. I checked out both the JDS labs one and schiit, but shipping makes them a little over double the price, do you know if there are any resellers or manufactures in/around EU/Sweden?

[lean grove]

Uhhhh no. I'm not super familiar. Ifi, topping, smsl, and monoprice might have something.

[gleaming junco]

I use a cheap usb mic and its fine

you dont need some hind end shit if you are just chatting with your friends on discord

but dont cheap out either

[ocean pulsar]

you can go pretty amazingly cheap tho and get something reasonably ok

[atomic ridge]

https://www.prisjakt.nu/c/dac-horlursforstarkare, this is in swedish, but it's basically like a swedish price runner with it all. How "bad" is the E10K with 250ohm headphone?

[molten lotus]

cop an ifi zen air dac if schiit is unavailable

which is a better dac than the modi 3+ and atom dac

but is a worse amp than the magni 3+

[molten lotus]

e10k is just bad

like why would you want it

stick to a dongle or something

[atomic ridge]

It's the only one the closest/largest tech reseller has

[molten lotus]

just don't buy an amp then

[atomic ridge]

just get a dac dongle?

[molten lotus]

yes

[atomic ridge]

Alright for the future with an amp, any notable difference between the magni+ and jbs lab atom?

[lean grove]

Magni is gonna have a bit more character and power, atom is gonna be cleaner and more functional.

[molten lotus]

I don't like atom

mid

[atomic ridge]

whats up with magni+ or heretic? one with discrete components and one with ICs?

[molten lotus]

go for magni 3+

heretic is box

with opamps in it

[weak rapids]

anyone recommend a 5 meter cable for hd560s?

[unique wind]

the virgin klaus fears the chad op amps

[lean grove]

The secret is he ate one when he was young and got sick

[nocturne plaza]

Who can recommend some SOLID headphones for PC (for gaming, listening to music, general use)
Budget is not a problem, but favour value for money (as long as it isn't low end)

I prefer bassy headphones with noise cancellation, that way I can't hear my pc

[ocean pulsar]

how do you feel about iems (earbuds with rubber tips), youll get much better noise isolation than cancellation and extremely awesome sound for very cheap

[nocturne plaza]

I have airpods pro (2nd gen), would it be viable to literally just use those?

[ocean pulsar]

dont see why not besides the lack of multi device pairing

[nocturne plaza]

It is however a biit of a pain to switch between phone and pc with them but that's fine

[strong ingot]

I like my Hyper X Cloud 2s

[nocturne plaza]

Yeah, that's just apple being apple

whining because you aren't in the ecosystem

[ocean pulsar]

there are much better cancelling units for cheaper and with better sound quality

[strong ingot]

Though hyper X isn’t noise canceling

[ocean pulsar]

but the cancelling is less natural so 🤷

[nocturne plaza]

Than airpods pro?

[ocean pulsar]

yep

[strong ingot]

I hear those Sony earbuds are good?

[nocturne plaza]

kind of interested, noise cancellation is only preferred

if there are headphones that offer better bass then I'd happily take a look

[ocean pulsar]

headphones
eh
iems definetly

[strong ingot]

I can never game with headphones on. Afraid someone’s gonna sneak up on me and startle me

[ocean pulsar]

er2xr are the most cancelly and have great bass, but they are rather uncomfortable for most people

[nocturne plaza]

ehh that's a dealbreaker

[ocean pulsar]

personally use salnotes zero, less isolating than even the airpods but $20 and pretty solid all around

[nocturne plaza]

So iems are better for bass & overall quality as well as price?

[ocean pulsar]

cca cra+ have more bass and treble and are also nice

[ocean pulsar]

yea generally need to pay 5x for headphones of similar sound quality if you want closed
if you can go for open headphones tho its a different story

[nocturne plaza]

The bass would have to be impressive as I currently use beats solo 3

[ocean pulsar]

😬

[nocturne plaza]

but I've had them 4 years and they're getting a bit old and used now

[nocturne plaza]

What does that mean lmao

[nocturne plaza]

What's the difference?

[ocean pulsar]

beats arent particularly significant in the bass

they just have alot of upper bass to hide their lack of lower bass

[ocean pulsar]

open you can hear around you and get significantly better sound quality

[nocturne plaza]

I use them wired. Wireless broke a while ago

[ocean pulsar]

🤷 presumeably quite similar

[nocturne plaza]

So not for noise cancelling, I see

what do you think my best option would be overall?

[ocean pulsar]

id recommend trying the salnotes, they are $20 and i love mine

[nocturne plaza]

so you're saying that these little cheap things are as good as headphones that cost hundreds?

are they comfortable?

[ocean pulsar]

if you find airpods pros comfortable they will be slightly less but not significantly

[nocturne plaza]

I see, well I don't find them actively comfortable

I'm aware that they're in my ears

just as long as they don't cause discomfort then I'm good

[ocean pulsar]

highly depends on ear shape

i find em comfortable 🤷

[nocturne plaza]

I have quite small ears

I use the extra small eartips for the airpods

[ocean pulsar]

they have plenty of tip sizes

[nocturne plaza]

so would that be a problem?

Ahh

they come with it I assume?

[ocean pulsar]

the cra+ might have better options for smaller ears bc chinese brand but 🤷

[nocturne plaza]

are there any particular specific ones you'd recommend?>

[ocean pulsar]

no i mean the ones that come in the box

[nocturne plaza]

For the price I might just buy and see if they're any good, not like the stakes are high

[ocean pulsar]

if you want to buy extras go for it

[nocturne plaza]

I'd probably do that if needed

[ocean pulsar]

the main 3 options for $20 are salnotes zero, truthear hola and cca cra
for the same approx price
the cra has alooot more bass than the cra+ but sacrifices significantly everything else

reviews say hola are less treble more bass but idk i dont own em yet

[nocturne plaza]

Are there any that I can get a good amount of everything (especially bass) without significant compromise?

I'd rather not have less of anything but just more of the bass if y'know what I mean

[ocean pulsar]

theres also the wan'er but i dont know much about em

if you really just want more bass, try the truthears zero, they are $50 but they are extremely bassy without sacrificing much

[nocturne plaza]

Oo nice, yeah price isn't an issue

So if iems are so good, why aren't haven't I heard about them?

[ocean pulsar]

they definetly are rather large tho, so with smaller tips they may fall out of your ears

[ocean pulsar]

cause most folks dont like sticking stuff in their ears

[nocturne plaza]

hmm, thanks for letting me know

[nocturne plaza]

Lmao fair enough

[ocean pulsar]

also they have dropped in price in half every year for the last 3 years for the same quality

[nocturne plaza]

so would people in studios use these, they're that good?

[nocturne plaza]

Damn

[ocean pulsar]

studios use custom models

[nocturne plaza]

I see

[ocean pulsar]

whenever someone is on stage, check their ears, they probably have iems

[nocturne plaza]

Damn

[ocean pulsar]

the customs often start in the $800 range and many stars have many $2k+ sets

[nocturne plaza]

So like I said, I'm using them for general purpose with my pc. I assume they'd be good for gaming and such, right?

[ocean pulsar]

oh yea, they are pretty great

[nocturne plaza]

watching youtube, music, gaming, all of that

a quick google search told me "nah headphones got better sound stage bla bla"

so are they chatting bollocks or they got a point

[ocean pulsar]

depends on the headphones

if you are ok with open, there are plenty of options with a ton of soundstage

[nocturne plaza]

I mean for the price and for the quality I guess I can't really complain

[ocean pulsar]

if its closed back tho there really arent any options

tho i only look at stuff under $500

[nocturne plaza]

What even is the difference between a good sound stage and a.. not good sound stage? what characteristics do they have?

Can you tell I don't know much lmao

[ocean pulsar]

so you know how you can hear things from different directions?

[nocturne plaza]

Yeah

[ocean pulsar]

good = you can tell the exact location and it sounds like its outside of your head

mediocre = you can tell the direction but it sounds like its relatively close to you
bad = only left right and center

[nocturne plaza]

where do IEMs stand on that spectrum?

[ocean pulsar]

at this price you are looking at mediocre

[unique wind]

iems do pretty well with imaging in terms of directionality but don’t have a lot of depth

many higher skilled players use iems

[nocturne plaza]

could you say the same for the truthears zero?

[ocean pulsar]

also this does not apply to games even slightly
only music
games bake in distance and direction into the sound if you set them for headphones

[nocturne plaza]

oo I see

[ocean pulsar]

music assumes you have speakers, where games you can select what you have

[nocturne plaza]

So would IEMs be a solid choice for my purpose of general use (gaming, consuming music, online videos etc)

[ocean pulsar]

yep
i havent touched my headphones in a while

[unique wind]

iems are a cheat code for real

you can get great frequency response tuning for $20

whereas that starts at like $160 with headphones

[lean grove]

I mean
Amj did say no budget.

[nocturne plaza]

Damn okay

[lean grove]

Do you want something good value or do you want something good

[ocean pulsar]

also said good value tho

[nocturne plaza]

Well yeah, but if I can save a buck and get solid quality I'm not gonna complain lmao

[unique wind]

you could get both headphones and iems and see what you like more

a good set of iems only costs $19

[nocturne plaza]

Lmao true

but then that's just hassle

[lean grove]

$20-$50 iems are gonna be good value. But for $150ish you can get the 560s which are the best entry level headphones right now

[unique wind]

sennheiser 560s is such a unicorn

[ocean pulsar]

definetly wont block the noise of a pc...

[lean grove]

Is that a requirement?

[unique wind]

i kinda like being able to hear my environment even if it’s a little noisy

[ocean pulsar]

🤷 was originally

[lean grove]

Ah yeah. Open back is not noise cancelling.

[unique wind]

if you want bass and ambient noise reduction then iems are the way to go

[nocturne plaza]

truthears zero; solid option?

[ocean pulsar]

thats the most bassy option that still sounds relatively decent

[unique wind]

they’re fine

i don’t see how they’re any better than $20 iems but they’re fine

[ocean pulsar]

they are noticeably cleaner than the salnotes, cra+, chu

[unique wind]

weird

[nocturne plaza]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fanmusic-TRUTHEAR-Crinacle-Earphone-Dynamic/dp/B0B7DS1QHZ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=truthears+zero&qid=1680905900&s=electronics&sr=1-2
these, do any of you know if they come with a range of ear tips (preferably small)?

If no are there any separately available?

[ocean pulsar]

they come with a decent set

[unique wind]

i pulled the filters off my zetian wu because they were filthy and it totally changed the sound for the worse

i need to see if they gave me replacements in the box

[nocturne plaza]

good to know

[ocean pulsar]

https://a.co/d/1M5rAgm

they did fall out of my ears, so i bought these

[nocturne plaza]

So if I just bought those now I'd be making a good choice?

[ocean pulsar]

ye
tip rolling is a thing tho

also dont default to the smallest tips, try the medium ones and work your size down

[nocturne plaza]

Yeah that's a good idea

so those big ones + the eartips would mean that there's less chance of them falling out?

[ocean pulsar]

try the stock tips first

[nocturne plaza]

Because if I can't hear anything because they've fallen out then what's the point

[ocean pulsar]

tips are extremely personal

[nocturne plaza]

Right ok

considering I've got small ears

these gonna be viable?

[ocean pulsar]

its the part that sits outside that is large

[nocturne plaza]

like very small

[unique wind]

i wish dekoni made extra small foam tips because even their small ones are a little annoying

[nocturne plaza]

That's what I'm thinking

like are they even gonna fit in my ear

[ocean pulsar]

the outside isnt supposed to go in your ear it sits outside

[nocturne plaza]

Lmao right

[ocean pulsar]

and they wont fall off because of the cable, they just get less seated

the further outside of your ear the nozzle is, the less bass you get
and heres the tips it comes with
https://storage.googleapis.com/headphones_com_blog_files/zero4.jpg

large medium small in more bass and less bass versions as well as foams

[nocturne plaza]

Yeah I've learned that with airpods pro

[unique wind]

dang those on the top right are hecking small

[nocturne plaza]

Which ones are bass versions? Lmao

I'm guessing they're more bass because they can seat more in your ear

[ocean pulsar]

nope

they are bassier if they have a smaller throat

[ocean pulsar]

those are the ones that are on the iems lel

[nocturne plaza]

Oh, I would ask why but it doesn't matter lmao

I'll take your word for it

[ocean pulsar]

these are the ones that are generally touted as the best sound, but they have to go so deep into your ear that i cant stand em

ouch

[nocturne plaza]

Oh my god no

that'd damage your ears surely

[ocean pulsar]

nope

[nocturne plaza]

well they aint falling out

[ocean pulsar]

these are serious professional gear that work great
and they are about double the isolation of the airpods

[nocturne plaza]

Yeah I can imagine with those ear things

So you'd recommend those eartips that you sent + those truthears

[onyx iron]

Just got my pair of hd6xx. The headphones wont show up on my pc, unsure why. Done a restart, reinstalled sound drivers, but nothing. Someone help

[ocean pulsar]

try the truthears, get tips only if you find the stock tips un good

[nocturne plaza]

Ok thank you so much, really appreciate it dude

Will get those

[ocean pulsar]

#1027757333117415424 but check your wiring, plug directly into the motherboard if possible

[molten lotus]

no lol

they just sound alright

[ocean pulsar]

klaus we are talking comparing to consumer-fi for someone who wants bass...

[nocturne plaza]

😐