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To rephrase the question I had earlier, are any of those earbuds also good for running, as in won’t fall out of my ears easily, and are any of those headsets really durable? It’s been a consistent thing of mine where headsets end up with a broken side (so far always the left) as in physical damage making it not wearable, and also a bad habit of mine to fall asleep with them on (I swear I don’t try to)
So far the headphones I have currently, haven’t broken, but I never really know
we can't answer that question for you
everyone has different ear shapes
some iems will fit me and they will absolutely not fall out on their own regardless of the task
but 90% of other ear tips will absolutely fail me even while standing still
I mean, people I know complain about AirPods falling out all the time, but they worked for me (the audio in them essentially died, or I would still use them)
if you are aiming for wireless pods pro are a good option
though it is in your best interest to avoid non pro airpods
can vouch, the airpods pro 2nd gens are some of the best ive used
the ANC is S tier and is great outside
im looking for headphones under $400 that makes my music more fun/dramatic to listen to
im thinking ill just get XM5s im out of options
definitely avoid the xm5
they simply have too shitty bass
its muddy and drowns out every other sound
hyper v shaped
unless you listen to stuff like EDM exclusively id avoid them
I don't remember the xm4s much but I also didn't like them
xm5 has good anc but I hate its sound
All the WHXM are p bad
$400 is a decently good budget to get something actually good tho
Like Sundaras + an amp
damn lol
worse than xm4 yes
I own them
i dont want to go all out with an amp
That is unfortunate
also based on him considering the xm5 it's fair to assume he wants outside headphones
im just looking to make my music more fun to listen to wherever i am
i dont mind going wired for it
consider n700nc m2
Only thing I can nitpick on the daras is the cups are very slightly too small
they have very sibilant treble
their bass falls way too much
and they have no imaging
they have excellent layering and decent stage
Hmm only thing I'd really agree with there is maybe a bit on the imaging
but if you listen to badly mixed songs the headphone just makes them sound even worse
I mean
the bass is objectively super low on sundaras
even the 100$ he400se has more linear bass than sundaras
what can i expect from it in terms of sound
The extension isn't the best, but it is very punchy and fun. And you can fix the extension with EQ
you can make it better but fixing it is an overstatement
not wired quality but still better than anything with built in wireless you can buy
this is coming from a person who owned the sundaras for like
i had airpods maxes for a while
3-4 years now I believe
i enjoyed its sound but hated its versatility
define versatility
the absolute garbage that was the bra case
oh the maxes
yeah those are not even good sounding
they aren't terrible but like
for that much money its just not good
Also, durable headphones? Must have good sound quality and a decent cable length if wired, preferably something good for gaming and for music/tv
hifiman susvara
For like 100-ish*
USD
durable headphones is a tough call for 100 usd
maybe a srh440a?
well he requested that it sounds good as well
440s are good, but the A variant is yikes
:worrywhirl:
k361 headband isn't too strong
When I’m home on Tuesday I’ll send some pics of the 3 headsets, you will not be happy by what they are based off of sound quality and build quality
The 3 broken ones
Legitimately the left side of the headband has broken every time
i have no idea how the chat link cable works. my setup for ps5 audio is convoluted at best.
Mhmm ive yet to try a headphone that made me want to buy em
anyone have suggestions on horizontally shaped desktop speakers
under 200 usd. something for music. i was thinking the micca pb42x and i can stick them sideways
my monitors and pc cover my desk space so i gotta put the speakers under the monitors
Any idea why Tidal's Android app doesn't wanna download on my phone through google store even tho it says it's android 7+
sideloaded an apk from apkmirror and works just fine lol
Not bad! Hows the pads condition?
$400 is cheap ngl. They can fetch upwards to $1000 esp in mint condition
How do you wall mount speakers
With mounts that go on the wall
Wall mounts, if you will
I was originally going to get the Sm7b but after more research, even if I buy all the things (cloud lifter and interface), I feel like that is a bit too much to constantly keep up with. I'm not a sound engineer and my audio skills are lacking.
I could see me spending years just to get the sound I want and I don't know if I'd ever get the full benefit of my purchase because of that.
Is this way of thinking sound?
Yes
and it is solely because sm7b is directly a bad microphone
LOL i think we talked about it before when I really wanted one a few months ago
You can achieve raw audio better than sm7b with a usb mic for 50$
That conversation made me really think about my purchasing choice
glad it helped you save like 500$
pshh. More like 800$-1000$ by the time I got everything
I think USB mics are probably okay still. I don't think I need XLR based on what I said above. I just don't have the experience and tbh don't want to spend a year doing it.
I've been looking into elgato wave, sennhesier something, and Beacn
so I've heard now looking into it
Its straight up more reliable and versatile
why do you think Beacn is a meme? Overpriced for what it is and what all the streamers are going too?
Lots of affiliated reviews 
It's only ability is looking like an sm7b
and sounding like trash
px38x headset mic sounds better than the beacn
straight up ewaste
Needed to replace them, but they sound amazing.
I'm an audio tard :( I'm back at square one. Condenser v dynamic and usb vs xlr lol
what is your use case
99% chance im going to recommend an xm8500 and m track solo anyways but ill ask anyways
Gaming, podcasting type thing, streaming business meetings. And any other usecase I can think of. I know that isn't terribly specific
it's so ugly
i did just watch one of those yesterday
You could tell sm7b was better though esp up close to mic
it had better highs
and extends slightly lower in bass
but it costs 20$ and the difference is barely there
it doesn't need a cloud lifter
and it does not allow any background noise in
if you want really good sounding mics, you can do it easily for 100$ at most, but the thing is good sounding mics often let background noise in
and if you don't know what you are doing with configurations, you cannot sufficiently remove that background noise in a way where the audio quality isn't deteriorated to the point of being worse than xm8500
lmao tell me about it X)
bane of my existence with blue yeti
lol
blue yeti is like actually worth 15$ of components
the metal chassis is more expensive than the entirety of the mic itself
yeah, tbf lots of electronics are probably like that
What would you think at the 100$ price range
xm8500
behringer c1
mpm1000
these have lots of background noise I am recommending them solely because you asked

Do these need cloud lifters? (phantom power is what I think that is)
you don't need cloud lifters
but yes they need phantom power
which every interface should have
what interfaces do you recommend to pair with these
these looks like realtively cheap upgrades compared to the smb7+cloud lifter + idk but def not the scarlett thingy
sm7b is straight up not good mate
practically every xlr mic below 400$ sounds better than it does
I don't know why it got popular at any point
tho I suppose it deals with background noise nicely
Would u recommend this over a rode podmic and Evo 4?
if its gaming then yeah i definitely do
you are just throwing yourself under more financial burden for no real reason
its not like mics get a lot better more you pay
Calm thanks for the help
np
by the way I do think podmic is better sounding but I don't think it's a necessary expense
Is it worth it to go to a go xlr mini? They're about 100-120$ used on ebay. Helicon is like 3x the price used
not really
if you want goxlr functionality its better to just use midimixer
an x touch mini costs 50$ and the software is free
yet works a lot better than goxlr
it isn't an audio interface however, just a digital mixer
so you need interface + x touch mini
Will this allow me to individually set programs sound with a physical nob? I tried doing it on my macropad where I had 3 knobs and it turned out not possible
yes
I couldn't ever find a windows solution to do that -.-
it was a very fortunate encounter for me as well
Mtrack solo also good for some headphone upgrade in the future?
better than a motherboard maybe
it doesn't particularly have a strong headphone output
does not replace what a good amplifier does
I do use a schitt stack. Suppose there is a way I can send that data to the midi mixer?
yeah
midi mixer is just an elaborate windows mixer
looks cooler and more handy
you can recreate it's functionality by learning python and midi inputs/outputs in like an hour max
or just use the software because it already exists
damn I couldn't find any used Behringer X-TOUCH MINI on ebay x)
costs like 50$ anyways
i only see them for 100
yep
possible then
go get the goxlr if you want if m track solo + touch mini costs 150$ if you want
functionally they are better but if you don't need the extras then a goxlr mini will do as well
if you don't mind the 4 band mixer etc
tbh I don't know what most of those features are lol
the most impacting one will be the digital mixer
m track solo has 8 knobs + slider
so that is 9 different programs or groups you can assign
goxlr mini has 4 of them
and I don't know if you can assign multiple stuff to one slider
m track solo had 8 knobs?
okay lol I got confused for a second
also has mute buttons, assign buttons and lots of other stuff you can assign stuff
usually yes, its apparently 90usd where you live
also by slider I meant the faders
the things on goxlr you bring up and down to adjust volume
Trying to figure out what I want 
think I'm getting closer though
should I be concerned of 'noisy preamp' on that?
on what?
m track solo
did you read that off of a review site
listening to a video, but they said it's not an issue until like 90+ gain or something
its fine
what do you think of the Behringer UM2?
directly worse than an m track solo
I own the umc22
which is um2 but in a metal chasis
its just directly worse than m track solo
i hate audio stuff. This random dude comparing it says the exact opposite 
he probably strictly reads numbers
I bought the M-Audio M-Track Solo to see how it pairs against the Behringer UM2.
I was a bit surprised with the results, and there's definitely a winner in this battle.
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Awe...
i mean
the only thing he said is m track solo has a jump at around 95% level which you shouldn't really be getting to anyways
and that m track solo makes noise when turning the knob
he didn't really say anything meaningful regarding anything
he also said you need drivers for both interfaces which is false since um2 is plug and play and needs no drivers
more so he didn't say that m track solo has asio support contrary to um2
and he also did not remark on um2 not being limited to 0dB gain which makes it mess up when launching source games or giving programs the ability to sound volume output
my list so far lol
this guy does not know much, the only stuff he comments on is the appearance of things, you know he has no idea what he is talking about when the biggest difference he can spot between two interfaces is that one makes a clicky sound when turning the knob
doesn't even have the noise level measurements off of the internet
So basically, with this setup + whatever mic I pick, it's going to be better than any 100-250$ usb mic?
I don't think there are usb mics that expensive
There are many of them lol
I mean if you get an xm8500 then a c1u or an mpm1000u is going to sound better in a raw recording
preamps aren't going to save a shit mic
how do you feel about At 2035?
I don't know about it
Designed for critical home/project/professional studio applications and live performance, this side-address cardioid studio condenser delivers exceptional detail and low noise. Equipped with a switchable 80 Hz high-pass filter and 10 dB pad, the AT2035 handles high sound pressure levels with ease...
but someone is selling it locally for 75$ and I presume these things are okay to buy used
that also has background audio issues
also you can just listen to mics yourself you know
google a voice recording and listen
Should I just learn how to get rid of background audio noise instead of buying something at a hardware level to prevent it? I do worry about limiting the sounds I want people to hear
you should just buy the xm8500 and forget about all of it
you have no room to use a quality condenser anyways
and I can assure you the sound quality is not going to be as different as you think
You really love that microphone!
I don't, it's just good for users
what does this mean?
I just dn't want to buy a new mic for 10-20 years lol
my yeti has been daily driven since like 09
the additional audio quality a condenser will give you is negligible in the mediums you will utilize it in
if you were a singer or a musician I'd recommend it easily
but you aren't
the additional sound quality is wasted
0 musical abilities lol
yeah
you can just listen to voice demos
write at2035 vs xm8500
there is a solid chance such a video exists
listen to the different voice recordings and decide for yourself
isn't it hard to use those because there are so many different layers to audio that effect sound?
Too lazy to make a proper format for a review of the AT2035. Look at this as more of a sample or a realistic use for the microphone. All clips were recorded on OBS Studio! If you have any questions, leave them down in the comments below.
Check out Bandrew for his amazingly detailed microphone reviews!
https://www.youtube.com/c/Podcastage
Times...
i did find one I think lol
like how they have their microphone is configured and what preamp is used
filters and stuff
preamp does not affect as much as you think it does
and almost every reviewer tells you in demos whether they have any filters
if they don't you can just keep in mind that they probably applied the filters to both mics while testing
this video has weird 'floor noise' everytime he talks
i just skipped the unnecessary rambling lol
complains that at2035 lets in too much background noise
which is his fan in this case
yeah I couldn't deal with that fan with my current noise gate either
id have to create something elaborate or use some sort of automatic tool
that's it. I can up the noise gate but then I get rid of all the noises I want people to hear
Anyone got any good recommendations for truly wireless earbuds I saw DMS talk highly about the nothing ear 2 but the audio reviewing website not seem to like the trebles on it
that video I just watch def put more towards more on xm8500
I like my sony xm4s. It had best in class ANC and passthrough
Yeah I was tempted by them aswell
There is some quality control issue though
I swapped mine out for the silver pair and it has popping noises for podcast that were not in my original pair
I need to warranty them out, but kind of waiting till xm5 and probably use bestbuy warranty. I use that warranty as a way to upgrade for cheap
I want a wireless headphones/headset for gaming/music, (mic not important) 2.4ghz wireless max 100€
I can't do wireless headsets anymore 
thinking of the following: Logitech g535, HyperX Cloud Stinger 2 wireless or HyperX Cloud Stinger Core Wireless 7.1
all my friends over the last 10-15 years keep having to rebuy them due to various issues that are consistent even at the 150-250$ price range
wht issues?
Low quality audio, BT/2.4 ghz module dying, lithuim ion battery dying and reduced life (which tbf is expected), microphone goes bad but you said that isn't important.
They typically last 1-3 years before they get annoyed enough to replace it
As long as they last 2-3years would be nice
I've had my headphones since 09. I wish they die so I could justify an upgrade
my wired budget headset lasted under 2years bcus dropped my phone and the cable is screwed, it works but barely, need to adjust it constantly
A major thing to buy in a wired headphones is a detachable cable so you don't have to replace it which is a pain
I'm about to do a mod on one pair for a friend because cat chewed through cord
I've used my Sennheiser HD 598 (original ones) quite a long time. Although you can't buy them new anymore
yeah got a budget headset these were like 30€ so no detachable cable and i do want wireless
I try to buy things for life. You can't do that with most pc hardware, but for audio, seems to be less the case
You get what you get at that price range with wireless. The money isn't put into the actual drivers of the headphones but all the other stuff that goes in it which are the first things to fail. It probably doesn't matter hwich one you pick.
But I'd go with the most bass light since it's better for competitive gaming. Most gaming headphones are too bassy and take away from the high which are the important noises (i.e. footsteps)\
That's about all the advice I have one that one. Although I did have someone immediately return the hyperx one saying it was worst one he ever used
there is 2 hyperx options and someone has commented on logitech just being bad but idk
They seem the most reassuring what i can get with this money
https://www.rtings.com/ see if those are reviewed on here
I think this is generally a good source
there is only 1 steelseries optipon which is wireless it is steelseries arctis 1 for 99€
in their best gaming headset under 100$ 1st one is G535
"They're prone to inconsistencies in audio delivery, though, so it's important to take the time to adjust their fit."
I'd personally skip wireless, but that is just me. I mostly just use wireless for mobile purposes
mostly I see abt bad mic but got my own mic so that is no problem
These are Wireless...
So on amazon, the owner of the listing will sometimes change up the product to keep the reviews
intresting
something I've been bitching at about amazon review for the last 2 years
there was a best selling portable AC but most off the reviews were from just threads
like for knitting
sadly there are no good wireless headsets
@molten lotus What do you think of the Sennheiser E835
for my price yeah but ill prob go w G535
no, as a whole
there are no good wireless
in fact, there are only like 2 headsets even wired that don't suck
i also gave up on headsets a long time ago
and my friends and gaming buds are the best evidence I have that it was a good choice lol
Had they just went with a good paired of wired headphones (esp with detachable cable), they would have not spend 500-1000$ a piece over the last 10 years
They seem fine for my use
there is no basic wireless headphones for my price
there is no "seem fine for my use"
only "I don't care about the actual sound quality and just want this"
which is where most people fall anyway...
So what do you suggest then
cloud II if you want a headset sub 100...
but they're wired so...
and the good wireless headphones are high latency
sadly gaming headsets are targeted mainly at children and teens
so it is about the hardest place to find something good...
hyperx cloud stinger 2?
no. just cloud II
hyperX with a single good headset, but its actually just a rebranded headphone + mic add-on
the wirless ones r 120€ dunno
the wireless suck
wired cloud II and PC37x/PC38x, all of which are wired
are about the only headsets that aren't bad
so whats wrong w the wireless one
they suck at their one job
sound
ofc its fine if you don't know any better or just want wireless with lower latency and don't care about the sound quality
but if you do, currently there is no real option for both low latency wireless and good sound quality in one package
well yeah Im not that big into audio as long as i enjoy/like them
you probably fall within the "don't care about sound quality" anyway
just something that sounds fun
such as loud rumbling bass
Idk if bass is tht important to me
can confirm
somehow I returned from Wireless
unless you somehow are fine with downgrading to something 5% the performance for often 2000% the price (budget in ears vs TWS)
i didnt think that was possible
which one here is better?
i actually bought cloud Alphas like a few days ago cause they were on a big sale here and im obv returning them, but for normally $100 USD (i got them for like $80 CAD), they are pretty aight
comparing my current headset against G535
this?
It's definitely not the one on the left
Im using the left one and i have been happy abt it
I want to go wireless, but instead of just looking at TWS or wireless headsets
I am here looking at jank wireless adapters and such...
my wallet hates me for getting even slightly into audio
it is a hard thing to come back from, being able to just walk around, having 10ft long cables for wired def helps return to wired but wireless is still so convenient
the left is basically "the cause for 99% of audio to suck horribly"
What does Leakage mean?
sound leaking from the earcups
this boost...
ah
Well If i get the right one I guess it will still be an upgrade?
this is what I used to rock
So the G535 is fine for me?
if you want low latency and no wire, sure
holy guacamole
does anyone even look at pre-tax outside of businesses?
its never what you end up paying, so why would you?
Looking for a mid range headset and mic combo for streaming, gaming and media consumption preferably an over ear headset that can go both wired and wireless like the skull candy hesh ANC.
Thank you in advance
If this isn’t possible give me the reality and the solution
Audeze maxwell
This one?
Audeze Maxwell Wireless Gaming Headset for Playstation, Mac, PC, and Switch https://a.co/d/7J6zPQw
After relentless innovation building the world's best wireless gaming headsets, Audeze presents Maxwell, designed from the ground up for serious gamers. Sound quality, wireless performance, and battery life are all pushed to new extremes, along with the latest spatial audio features and multi-pla...
Yep that one
It’s unavailable, any others within the $300 and under range?
100-300USD*
Are you in the us?
No outside of the US
Oh fuck
Well where are you from then?
Caribbean
So I’m at the mercy of amazon, eBay, Newegg etc
Hmm, what are they?
Like almost anything else
There's the audeze penrose, but the problem with you is shipping
Shipping is not an issue I have a freight forwarder that gets me anything from anywhere in the world so long as it can be shipped to or within the US
Oh shit
How about the Steel series Arctis nova 7?
Do they accept other sites that are not Amazon but do business in the us?
Yes, so long as they can ship and not exclusively store pick up
Powered by Audeze’s latest 90mm planar magnetic drivers, with over 3X the driver area of leading competitors, Maxwell delivers powerful bass and pinpoint precision. Audeze drivers are trusted by leading recording and game studios worldwide, and feature patented technologies including Uniforcevoice coils, Fluxor magnets, and Fazor waveguides. Exp...
There's your Maxwell and it's in stock
Also this store is goated, they have a 1 year return program
So that you really have time using the headphone, see if it fits you
Thanks
How does it compare to the arctis nova 7? Is there a site I can compare the 2 like rtings?
https://youtu.be/YWjuUKkX6rs
Its pretty new so right now there's only a review of this in the vacuum
In this video, Resolve provides an overview of the revolutionary new Audeze Maxwell gaming headset. In this video, he does a deep dive on of all of its functions and features, along with a lengthy discussion on the Maxwell's sound quality for both music and gaming. Check out how this does for audiophiles as well as gamers.
Audeze Maxwell: https...
But i'm confident that this blows every gaming headset out of the water
Ok thanks my brother
Rtings also currently testing the Maxwell ATM but it will take a while
Bleeding edge
Do take a watch at the review.
It is very nerdy, so if it feels overwhelmed to you then feel free to skip straight to the gaming stuff
Will do
It's probably different here than where you are. The item price isn't the price you pay. There is a sale tax on top of it which isn't the sticker price. Here it's sticker price + 8%
at that point just get rid of sales tax and build it into the price...
I think many people in the US wish the state tax was included in the sticker price because you have to do it in your head or calculator when you shop if you are on a budget.
It's quite annoying.
its the same reason why I think taxes shouldn't even be counted as income, and instead just be the company's job
considering it isn't an option
you HAVE to pay it
yeah it happens at point of sale. It use to be amazing to buy stuff online. The buyer didn't have to pay state tax. Technically you were supposed to but no one did lol. Well as for individual in consumer market. Now Amazon has to collect the state tax (or any other online company)
Just one of many things the US seems braindead in for anyone outside ig
or at least many years behind (not as much as japan with them still not having gone digital for many things tho)
Japan government loves their floppy discs apparently or so I've heard LOL
they're starting to transition from floppy discs to usbs, but many people are against it since it's small and easy to lose
why not just switch to SSDs and be done
I mean, they aren't small
and still better
even HDDs are but they are ancient...
time to go sata SSD at least
blow their noses
so what is accuracy and what is precision
Wrong channel but accuracy is how close to the truth something is and precision is the lowest level of detail you can measure.
ah
wait what would be right for mice
just one of the tech chats?
also can tell you that that is not true

i don’t think there are any people knowledgeable about mice in this server
tech chat 1 will just tell you to buy a logitech g502 and then rant about how lightweight mice are overrated
can anyone help me with my windows audio in #1027757333117415424
Hello, just 5 minutes ago my Sennheiser Jubilee 58x right ear has stopped functioning completely, and I was thinking of buying the grado sr80x. I mostly listen to music and play games and voice call with friends so I am not looking for something insanely good, just something that is worth my money. What do you think about the sr80x? any other recommendations?
Then Linus is using those terms incorrectly or were talking about something completely different.
First off see if your 58x is within warranty so you can get it repaired, returned, or so that you can sell it.
Second off, the sr80x is a weird headphone. They are very bright so they add a harsh and etchy sound to things. Some people are into that, especially older people.
The safer recommendation would be to get some HD560s
my sennheiser are like 5 years old at this point
how can I get a new cable
internet
swap l/r?
np
yeah it works fine on the right side so it is the cable
there you go
do you happen to know if I can get new ear mats and that thing cloth film thing for them as well
sure you can
only amazon?
not sure
hmmm the cloth film thing I am not sure about
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174575567379 what do you think about these
word
though this doesn't mean you wont like aftermarket pads either
it's just hit or a miss
more often a miss
manufacturers should stop putting terrible pads on their headphones then
does anybody know any good budget (best if under 50) usb mics on sale rn
K669
how does it compare to the a6v
based
#build-a-pc would be best, those people are actually knowledgeable most times
They also care about tech
I use a g604 and as a based gamer idgaf about the weight of a damn piece of plastic, it clicks the exact same
Can I ask an audio support question here?
Definitely, I won’t be the best to answer it, but this is definitely the channel for that kinda thing. Ask away
stock pads are about the only good pads for HD6x0..
What are some good wireless earbuds under 60 bucks
All I rlly do is listen to music and watch TikTok
earbuds or just in ears?
bought an old soviet mic
ordered influencer arm and shock mount for it cause I have a silly vision
gonna be cool
gonna be sweet
decided on some elgato arm cause it was on sale
sennheiser really tried lol
Beyer and astro have the best stock pads imo
Too bad astros are pretty meh otherwise
Leather pads = useless for 80% of the days because too hot
They were like a cloud tbh
they feel stiff and rough to me
You sure you arent thinking of life?
I wanna try dekoni fenestrated leathers next time I replace my headphone's pads
I'd go full leathers but this is a reason not to
i like squishy thick leather pads

My old Razer headset was interesting
Most of it was leather but the part that touched your head was fabric
Dekoni also sell pads like that
i despise pads like this
i had to change the pads on my he400se because the fabric contact material was itchy
i found aftermarket pads that feel very similar aside from being pleather entirely instead of having fabric contact
Are the Sennheiser hd280 pro any good?
i think it would be better to get the akg k361 if theyre available in your region
similar price but much better headphone
No, sennheiser is garbage at closed backs
Im looking for some headphones to use to monitor my audio recording
what is your max budget?
the sennheiser hd560s would be excellent for that but they come in at around $160 instead of the $90-110 we were just talking about
200$ Cad.
Idk if its the same in the US but rn they’re on sale
Around 160 usd
The hd 560
theyre exceptionally neutral so theyd be great for monitoring or mastering
The HD 560S indulges the audiophile evaluating their music’s entire journey through the audio path. This open-back headphone is tuned to reveal the truth in your music without sacrificing the gratifying bass response needed to reproduce complex modern music—all at a breakthrough value. Its transd...
Alright! Any other I might need to have in consideration?
akg k371 if you want a closed back
although they wouldnt be as good
the akg k371 are tuned for enjoyment not monitoring/mastering
I just wonder, I normally see people using audiotechnica
yeah unfortunately a lot of people in the content creation space use objectively bad gear and then recommend it to their audience
the beyerdynamic dt770 and audiotechnica m50x are not good, i fell for the trap myself and own dt770s but stopped using them a while ago
Ok thanks then
no they aren't
@lucid phoenix do not get hd560s for monitoring
open backs are a big mistake for audio monitoring
they do not reflect what other people will hear at all
by that logic you should use razer krakens for mastering
but feel free to give them an alternative
Monitoring and mastering are not the same thing
i hate monitoring my own voice with closed backs but i suppose im an outlier
what should they get then?
@lean grove @molten lotus
they correlate a lot
k361, m50x
m50x 
wouldnt the m40x just be better
eh sure
what are the parameters for deciding what would be a good headphone for monitoring
not having anything you would want in a headphone
like soundstage
imaging
layering
if the headphones are not good at this then they are good for mastering generally
i guess that would explain the invention of in ear monitors
dt770 are also decent
Monitoring you want to make sure that everything is being picked up correctly. You don't want any background noises clipping, weird noises. So in that case all you want is isolation and negative dynamics.
dt770 sounds pretty unnaturally wide to my ears because of their lack of midbass
dt770 is huge
Mastering is when you make sure that everything sounds good for the entertainment medium you want.
references
Movies on theaters are mastered differently from movies on the TV
generally you would want both
for whatever you do
given you aren't a radio operator or something
still crazy to me that flat response he400se slam significantly harder to me than dt770 which have a sizable bass boost
if you need good monitoring the odds are you also need good mastering headphones
That's the "planar bass"
works great for modern music subbass
Yes but you don't give a boom arm jockey hd600s
classic too
very particular conditions
i cant imagine how weird linear bass iems would sound though
Very rare conditions
they need a big boost just to sound similar to flat response open backs
if it's just frequency response you can establish that with eq michael
idk how people use he400se with lesser powerful amps because my amp is 2.4w 32ohm and it feels very appropriate
your volume knob climb may be wacky
2/3 knob is where it starts to get uncomfortably loud and that's usually the max youd want to go on any amp
also headphone outputs of speaker amps has resistors in its circuit
if you use that
im also running -5.4 preamp in software tho
High gain or low gain?
so that makes them considerably quieter
Oh yeah that'll do it.
gotta offset the 5db <60hz shelf
Good DAC please? Simply because I want one, that and/or an amp for pretty cheap please
budget and country ?
there is not much point to getting a dac if its going to be cheap
unless you don't have one
unless u have an ass motherboard
yeah
US, and just pretty cheap
2017 era motherboards have noticeably worse audio than something new
define cheap bro
whatever that cx dongle carmon always suggests is
what sorta fucking dac do you think you are going to get with that
cx31993
I don’t fucking know how much a dac is
klaus being angsty as always
That’s why I said “cheap”
100$ to have an actually audible minor difference
300$ to have a noticeable difference
Ok, then I guess a dac is not for me
for $20 the best option is a usb c to 3.5mm dongle adapter that says it has a "cx 31993" chip in it
How about an amp?
from everyone's experience
but you aren't going to get anything sounding different below 100$
Damn
How about a headphone Jack to iPhone connector that doesn’t make my headphones sound like shit?
the cheapest dac/amp i'd recommend is zen air dac period
below that just stick to your motherboard or dongles
i mean
sure?
it wont make your shit sound better unless your current setup is particularly bad
but go buy an apple dongle if you feel like it
costs like 8$
I have one, it makes my headphones sound much quieter and suckier than they actually do
it's just a volume difference
amps have different outputs
%50 audio on windows slider isn't going to sound the same volume
lots of people also think other items are better because they sound louder without volume matching
happens a lot when comparing lossless to lossy audio
On iPhone full volume is still pretty sucky for volume to me
Like not super audible unless I’m in a much quieter environment
what are your headphones?
Astro a40s but I have no issues anywhere but iPhone
was the Logitech G635 a good buy? I got it for like $30 cheaper than the G935 would have been
I never got a more clear answer of what to get for monitoring. Let me explain why I need them.
-I’ll be recording audio on my Zoom h4n field recorder and I need to get a good accurate audio monitoring from it
@foggy scarab there are lots of good little dongle DAC amps that use this cx31993 chip. Just Google "cx31993 dongle" and you'll get tons of results.
he has an apple dongle
and he says its not enough
and to my knowledge cx has the same output
Less on Android
mb i had it bckwards
lol
common android l
define accurate
in ear monitors with construction noise blocking headphones over top of them
That will give me q semi clear idea of what the field recorder is actually hearing. So I can actually hear the clear voice it’s recording
so you want the most natural sounding headphones
hmm
hd560s or k361 might be good for that
361 is closed and mega sensitive
why is it being sensitive a bad thing
crazy how we looped right back to what i suggested
he didn't elaborate to what he wanted
Oh no it's good
You can't always trust that field recorders are gonna have the best output
everyone knows that the harder the headphone is to drive the better it sounds because reasons
You can brute force your way to overwhelming outside noise
ananda stealth going for 550usd rn on hifiman site
ew, ananda
new
if ew ananda stealth then ew XS because theyre very similar
it's basically just a headband and sensitivity difference
ananda sounds as dead to me as the sundara did
not enuff bass
Sooo, any recommendations for me?
if you already have an apple dongle then there is nothing worth buying under $100
sounds thin, lifeless, and so on
that's too much
like you might not like anandas
but calling them as dead as sundaras is far too insulting than that headphone deserves
having tried both, that is what they sounded like to me
just a slightly better sundara
i think i could easily bass shelf an ananda
even KSC75 sounded less dead than those did last time I tried
thats not surprising at all
ananda stealth would probably run off of fiio utws5 if i dont eq them
but then there wouldnt be enough bass so oh well
So… The hd560 then
well yeah
how about getting TH909
imagine paying $1600 for that
boost starting at 700-800hz
That's pretty normal for biodynas
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i really need to stop being cheap and pick something out for desktop speakers
thats pretty affordable
that is exceptionally flat 60hz - 20khz
perhaps if you already have woodworking and soldering skills and tools
@unique wind I have $190, is the recommendation still he400se’s?
i dont like them without eq
CSS Criton 1td is $709, though. Should be reasonably easy to assemble... after assy probably around that $500-per-speaker pricepoint.
Soldering iron is $30 and quite easy. Paying someone with woodworking skills might cost you $100-$200 more for each.
@unique wind
sennheiser hd560s for openback
akg k371 for closed back
hifiman he400se with aftermarket pads and eq is awesome but that takes effort and it needs an actual amplifier
Hey biggie
Im firmly in the belief that sound quality should be judged completely without EQ
Easy in practice possibly, but conceptually not so much when you're trying to slap together crossover components on an mdf board without any easy diagram or tutorial
Eq should never be brought up in sound quality of headphones imo
i dont know how to feel about it
because calibration is a standard process before judging displays
Skill issue then
If you're talking start to finish, Ie. Milling/cutting MDF, assy (gluing), and finishing that's more like $500 alone per speaker on the low end
if i wasnt allowed to eq headphones then i wouldnt be happy with most open backs
Again, skill issue.
because almost all open backs have subbass rolloff stock
If you can't diy speakers then yeah sure you can't diy speakers
Like I wasn't saying "oh man you can get endgame speakers for $500"
I specifically said diy
Thanks :)
And, really, if you wanted to cheap out on the baffle and the material, you can do it yourself with a hand saw.
And a jig saw.
It really does
Since. You know. The do it yourself part.
"you're telling me I need tools to assemble this thing? Nobody told me that!"
the virgin budget restricted diy'er fears the gigachad wealthy pay somebody else to do it man
Really. And the pay someone else to do it is gonna have a much better product.
Sounds like a skill issue
Idk, man. You're seeming to get worked up about nothing.
im the guy whos poor and also too lazy to learn how to diy
Most people have access to those tools. And they're usually quite cheap at pawn shops.
So a saw, drill, jigsaw, I could buy all those things for $100 easy.
Only thing ive diyd in my setup is my desk, and its literally just your typical alex drawers and tabletop
Worked up? Interesting assumption but naw.
You're right Michael, you can also just get worse speakers.
yep
It's been a long time since I've heard that name. Pretty interesting
nht is the only manufacturer i can find that offers decent affordable sealed speakers
i prefer sealed subs and speakers
Just came in here blazing saying "uhm achkthually you can't diy if you don't have tools" as if it were some sorta zinger.
So. Something must have ticked you off
No, I just happened to drop by here to have a friendly conversation about an interesting topic. Are you sure you're not projecting?
You were a bit rough with it from my reading
I'm projecting a massive image saying "you are being pedantic"
And now you’re intentionally trying to piss off a regular that is actually into audio
Audeze goes and falls 6 feet under I guess
Yeah, that’s what I meant
????
I'd argue sundara is straight up bad compared to Ananda
and it's not like I like either
@unique wind what we’re those iems you were recommending me?
Same
Oh hi klaus
Been a while
Agreed
I don't have anything against it but it's weird when someone comments on eq'd performance of headphones rather than stock
Sup
Can I get some decent iems + iPhone cable for it for ~$40?
no idea
Currently my card is hd560s, some weird takis flavor I never tried, and I still have money and need earbuds lol
Id say it's worth considering in a review. Some people do like to know if a headphone can be eq'd well. I usually see it towards the end.
that's fine
Eq’d?
When you EQ something
tangzu wan'er
equalize
theyre $19 or $22 i believe depending on if you want a mic cable or not
Thanks
I would have thought so
and then cx31993 or apple dongle are like $10
Fank you
what would you pick in the up to $600 price range?
Are there any cables I can get to replace the one on my Astro a40s? They have a Jack that’s bigger than a 3.5 on one side, and the cable it came with just bothers me, the mute on it is annoying
Can get 2 of the apple dongle for $10
baller for iems
They’re for my speakers
They get hungry
snickers are generally denser so you can save some price/performance that way
Exactly, nothing wrong with eqing, but they should always be reviewed and ranked at stock
i plug my speaker ports with peanut butter
I’ve never tried that flavor of takis, so I deceived I’d stick them in the speakers I plan on getting
Klipsch R-41M :)
The red ones
“Takis dragon spicy sweet chili”
im too white for regular takis so theres no way i could eat especially spicy ones
???
I’ve never tried the spicy sweet chili ones
$10 for a bag tho
Expensive
(Big bag but still)
i havent even so much as looked at a picture of astro a40s since the xbox 360 era my friend
so i dont know about aftermarket support for them at all
wut the heck
idk if i've seen those in stores
the blue takis are pretty good tho
blue takis are the only ones ive tried
the blue takis give me more of a sweet aftertaste
I've tried every single american flavor
they're the same as regular takis but stain your fingers much more
mhm
could be the blue dye
i've tried regular, a green one (guac???), and blue
regular/blue is good
better than any flamin' hot cheeto
all forms of cheeto are disgusting
my favorite is the og (so far)
so why HD560S
I counter with cheesy jalapeno
because
uhhh
michael said so
and I've heard good things
HD599 are cheaper and iirc lighter
never seen these in my life
$120
dang
i am allergic to bass
achoo
Navy, would you know of anything?
oh its an east coast thing
no idea
Alright then
extremely unbelievably mind blowingly common east coast W
eh
its a small price to pay for being far af away from Florida
florida is funny
it makes for entertaining headlines
floridians literally just
florida man fights off police force with armored bulldozer
civilians are encouraged to round up burmese pythons and kill them
florida man slaps pregnant women for smoking
so dudes will just be grabbing 8-20ft snakes by the neck
florida man breaks into house, shaves cat, steals nothing
I conclude that florida men are based
but ohio is becoming the new florida
better than grabbing a snake by the other end
florida man domesticates rattlesnake
The cash for that job though, my dad has a friend who does it
im gonna move to florida and be a snake wrangler
Same, just don’t die 👍
wire me half your paycheck
Thank you for the other half
theyre the ones trapped in the everglades with me
i am the apex predator
im not trapped here with you
you're trapped here with me
doom music plays
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get the a90d noob
Asking for free things? I thought that was below you
when did i say that
You didn’t, I just assumed
i dont know if theyre 'nanner plugs
which is why i was asking
cant get a good picture
im kinda interested in this
Haha, Schiit.com
isn't that the new schiit speaker amp
I mean what else could it use
if not banana or bare wire which doesn't look like itd fit
yeah
It is indeed the new schiit
Gimi
my heart started beating faster watching that.
Can you flip it over to me?
no
Thanks, when should I expect it to arrive?
now
open your mail
you will find a pipe shaped item
ignite the string attached to it
it will deploy a signal for us to airdrop the 4090
Alright
I want a magni/modi but pocket sized/portable, any recommendations?
HD6xx headphones
What is the best Soundsystem? Surround sound system, clear voices, for playing games on TV, and for Movies on a TV.
Maybe perlisten audio speakers
With room treatment and calibration of course
something else these aren´t available where I live (Germany). It wouldn't be the end of the world if you didn't want to.

