#audio-tech

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lucid agate
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How do I use my chat link pro cable to where I can hear my pc and my ps5 through my DT990 pros? Which wire plugs in to where and do I need more than just the chat link cable or just that?

foggy scarab
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To rephrase the question I had earlier, are any of those earbuds also good for running, as in won’t fall out of my ears easily, and are any of those headsets really durable? It’s been a consistent thing of mine where headsets end up with a broken side (so far always the left) as in physical damage making it not wearable, and also a bad habit of mine to fall asleep with them on (I swear I don’t try to)

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So far the headphones I have currently, haven’t broken, but I never really know

molten lotus
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we can't answer that question for you

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everyone has different ear shapes

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some iems will fit me and they will absolutely not fall out on their own regardless of the task

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but 90% of other ear tips will absolutely fail me even while standing still

foggy scarab
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I mean, people I know complain about AirPods falling out all the time, but they worked for me (the audio in them essentially died, or I would still use them)

molten lotus
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if you are aiming for wireless pods pro are a good option

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though it is in your best interest to avoid non pro airpods

flint galleon
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can vouch, the airpods pro 2nd gens are some of the best ive used

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the ANC is S tier and is great outside

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im looking for headphones under $400 that makes my music more fun/dramatic to listen to

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im thinking ill just get XM5s im out of options

molten lotus
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definitely avoid the xm5

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they simply have too shitty bass

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its muddy and drowns out every other sound

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hyper v shaped

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unless you listen to stuff like EDM exclusively id avoid them

flint galleon
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worse than the XM4s?

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i mean yeah i actually do listen to EDM the most

molten lotus
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I don't remember the xm4s much but I also didn't like them

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xm5 has good anc but I hate its sound

open scaffold
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All the WHXM are p bad

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$400 is a decently good budget to get something actually good tho

molten lotus
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this is just

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not okay

open scaffold
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Like Sundaras + an amp

flint galleon
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damn lol

molten lotus
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I don't recommend sundaras

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at all

nova wagon
molten lotus
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I own them

flint galleon
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i dont want to go all out with an amp

open scaffold
molten lotus
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also based on him considering the xm5 it's fair to assume he wants outside headphones

flint galleon
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im just looking to make my music more fun to listen to wherever i am

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i dont mind going wired for it

molten lotus
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consider n700nc m2

open scaffold
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Only thing I can nitpick on the daras is the cups are very slightly too small

molten lotus
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they have very sibilant treble

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their bass falls way too much

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and they have no imaging

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they have excellent layering and decent stage

open scaffold
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Hmm only thing I'd really agree with there is maybe a bit on the imaging

molten lotus
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but if you listen to badly mixed songs the headphone just makes them sound even worse

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I mean

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the bass is objectively super low on sundaras

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even the 100$ he400se has more linear bass than sundaras

flint galleon
open scaffold
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The extension isn't the best, but it is very punchy and fun. And you can fix the extension with EQ

molten lotus
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you can make it better but fixing it is an overstatement

molten lotus
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this is coming from a person who owned the sundaras for like

flint galleon
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i had airpods maxes for a while

molten lotus
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3-4 years now I believe

flint galleon
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i enjoyed its sound but hated its versatility

molten lotus
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define versatility

flint galleon
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the absolute garbage that was the bra case

molten lotus
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oh the maxes

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yeah those are not even good sounding

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they aren't terrible but like

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for that much money its just not good

foggy scarab
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Also, durable headphones? Must have good sound quality and a decent cable length if wired, preferably something good for gaming and for music/tv

molten lotus
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hifiman susvara

cobalt sparrow
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well yeah

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its like 5k

molten lotus
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durable headphones is a tough call for 100 usd

violet heron
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maybe a srh440a?

molten lotus
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well he requested that it sounds good as well

open scaffold
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440s are good, but the A variant is yikes

molten lotus
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its secondary to k361

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in every way

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save for build quality maybe

open scaffold
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:worrywhirl:

molten lotus
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k361 headband isn't too strong

foggy scarab
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When I’m home on Tuesday I’ll send some pics of the 3 headsets, you will not be happy by what they are based off of sound quality and build quality

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The 3 broken ones

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Legitimately the left side of the headband has broken every time

zenith cedar
scenic stump
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Mhmm ive yet to try a headphone that made me want to buy em

ancient summit
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I got a steal on Oppo PM-3s.

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200ish used, now they go for 400+

desert salmon
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anyone have suggestions on horizontally shaped desktop speakers

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under 200 usd. something for music. i was thinking the micca pb42x and i can stick them sideways

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my monitors and pc cover my desk space so i gotta put the speakers under the monitors

plush patio
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Any idea why Tidal's Android app doesn't wanna download on my phone through google store even tho it says it's android 7+

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sideloaded an apk from apkmirror and works just fine lol

scenic stump
scenic stump
vale girder
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How do you wall mount speakers

tender frost
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With mounts that go on the wall
Wall mounts, if you will

mighty forum
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I was originally going to get the Sm7b but after more research, even if I buy all the things (cloud lifter and interface), I feel like that is a bit too much to constantly keep up with. I'm not a sound engineer and my audio skills are lacking.

I could see me spending years just to get the sound I want and I don't know if I'd ever get the full benefit of my purchase because of that.

Is this way of thinking sound?

vale girder
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what’s a good budget speaker

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Preferably 2

foggy scarab
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Depends what budget means, some people have a 20k budget

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Be less vague

molten lotus
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and it is solely because sm7b is directly a bad microphone

mighty forum
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LOL i think we talked about it before when I really wanted one a few months ago

molten lotus
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You can achieve raw audio better than sm7b with a usb mic for 50$

mighty forum
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That conversation made me really think about my purchasing choice

molten lotus
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glad it helped you save like 500$

mighty forum
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pshh. More like 800$-1000$ by the time I got everything

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I think USB mics are probably okay still. I don't think I need XLR based on what I said above. I just don't have the experience and tbh don't want to spend a year doing it.

I've been looking into elgato wave, sennhesier something, and Beacn

molten lotus
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Beacn is a meme

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And go for xlr if you can

mighty forum
molten lotus
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Its straight up more reliable and versatile

mighty forum
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why do you think Beacn is a meme? Overpriced for what it is and what all the streamers are going too?

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Lots of affiliated reviews giggle

molten lotus
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It's only ability is looking like an sm7b

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and sounding like trash

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px38x headset mic sounds better than the beacn

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straight up ewaste

ancient summit
mighty forum
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I'm an audio tard :( I'm back at square one. Condenser v dynamic and usb vs xlr lol

molten lotus
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what is your use case

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99% chance im going to recommend an xm8500 and m track solo anyways but ill ask anyways

mighty forum
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Gaming, podcasting type thing, streaming business meetings. And any other usecase I can think of. I know that isn't terribly specific

molten lotus
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yeah xm8500

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the thing with mics is

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good sounding mics are cheap as fuck

mighty forum
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it's so ugly

molten lotus
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its marginally worse than sm7b

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there are videos that do side by side tests

mighty forum
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i did just watch one of those yesterday

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You could tell sm7b was better though esp up close to mic

molten lotus
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it had better highs

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and extends slightly lower in bass

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but it costs 20$ and the difference is barely there

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it doesn't need a cloud lifter

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and it does not allow any background noise in

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if you want really good sounding mics, you can do it easily for 100$ at most, but the thing is good sounding mics often let background noise in

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and if you don't know what you are doing with configurations, you cannot sufficiently remove that background noise in a way where the audio quality isn't deteriorated to the point of being worse than xm8500

mighty forum
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bane of my existence with blue yeti

molten lotus
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lol

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blue yeti is like actually worth 15$ of components

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the metal chassis is more expensive than the entirety of the mic itself

mighty forum
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yeah, tbf lots of electronics are probably like that

molten lotus
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yeah

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sm7b for example

mighty forum
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What would you think at the 100$ price range

molten lotus
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xm8500

mighty forum
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The aesthetics bother me x)

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I know it's vane af

molten lotus
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behringer c1

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mpm1000

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these have lots of background noise I am recommending them solely because you asked

mighty forum
molten lotus
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they sound good though

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better than xm8500

mighty forum
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Do these need cloud lifters? (phantom power is what I think that is)

molten lotus
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you don't need cloud lifters

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but yes they need phantom power

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which every interface should have

mighty forum
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what interfaces do you recommend to pair with these

molten lotus
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m track solo

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cheap and works nicely

mighty forum
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these looks like realtively cheap upgrades compared to the smb7+cloud lifter + idk but def not the scarlett thingy

molten lotus
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sm7b is straight up not good mate

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practically every xlr mic below 400$ sounds better than it does

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I don't know why it got popular at any point

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tho I suppose it deals with background noise nicely

tawdry granite
molten lotus
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for what use case

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podscasts?

tawdry granite
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Yeah and gaming nshit

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My snowball sounds like shit

molten lotus
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if its gaming then yeah i definitely do

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you are just throwing yourself under more financial burden for no real reason

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its not like mics get a lot better more you pay

tawdry granite
molten lotus
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np

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by the way I do think podmic is better sounding but I don't think it's a necessary expense

mighty forum
molten lotus
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if you want goxlr functionality its better to just use midimixer

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an x touch mini costs 50$ and the software is free

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yet works a lot better than goxlr

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it isn't an audio interface however, just a digital mixer

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so you need interface + x touch mini

mighty forum
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Will this allow me to individually set programs sound with a physical nob? I tried doing it on my macropad where I had 3 knobs and it turned out not possible

mighty forum
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I couldn't ever find a windows solution to do that -.-

molten lotus
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it was a very fortunate encounter for me as well

tawdry granite
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Mtrack solo also good for some headphone upgrade in the future?

molten lotus
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better than a motherboard maybe

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it doesn't particularly have a strong headphone output

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does not replace what a good amplifier does

mighty forum
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I do use a schitt stack. Suppose there is a way I can send that data to the midi mixer?

molten lotus
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yeah

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midi mixer is just an elaborate windows mixer

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looks cooler and more handy

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you can recreate it's functionality by learning python and midi inputs/outputs in like an hour max

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or just use the software because it already exists

mighty forum
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damn I couldn't find any used Behringer X-TOUCH MINI on ebay x)

molten lotus
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costs like 50$ anyways

mighty forum
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i only see them for 100

molten lotus
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huh

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where you from?

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usa?

mighty forum
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yep

molten lotus
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possible then

mighty forum
molten lotus
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go get the goxlr if you want if m track solo + touch mini costs 150$ if you want

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functionally they are better but if you don't need the extras then a goxlr mini will do as well

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if you don't mind the 4 band mixer etc

mighty forum
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tbh I don't know what most of those features are lol

molten lotus
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the most impacting one will be the digital mixer

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m track solo has 8 knobs + slider

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so that is 9 different programs or groups you can assign

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goxlr mini has 4 of them

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and I don't know if you can assign multiple stuff to one slider

mighty forum
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m track solo had 8 knobs?

molten lotus
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my bad

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x touch mini

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lol

mighty forum
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okay lol I got confused for a second

molten lotus
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also has mute buttons, assign buttons and lots of other stuff you can assign stuff

mighty forum
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so it basically has more of everything without the electronic sliders

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and cheaper

molten lotus
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usually yes, its apparently 90usd where you live

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also by slider I meant the faders

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the things on goxlr you bring up and down to adjust volume

mighty forum
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Trying to figure out what I want sad

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think I'm getting closer though

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should I be concerned of 'noisy preamp' on that?

molten lotus
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on what?

mighty forum
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m track solo

molten lotus
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did you read that off of a review site

mighty forum
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listening to a video, but they said it's not an issue until like 90+ gain or something

molten lotus
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its fine

mighty forum
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what do you think of the Behringer UM2?

molten lotus
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directly worse than an m track solo

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I own the umc22

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which is um2 but in a metal chasis

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its just directly worse than m track solo

mighty forum
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i hate audio stuff. This random dude comparing it says the exact opposite sad

molten lotus
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he probably strictly reads numbers

mighty forum
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I bought the M-Audio M-Track Solo to see how it pairs against the Behringer UM2.

I was a bit surprised with the results, and there's definitely a winner in this battle.

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molten lotus
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i mean

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the only thing he said is m track solo has a jump at around 95% level which you shouldn't really be getting to anyways

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and that m track solo makes noise when turning the knob

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he didn't really say anything meaningful regarding anything

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he also said you need drivers for both interfaces which is false since um2 is plug and play and needs no drivers

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more so he didn't say that m track solo has asio support contrary to um2

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and he also did not remark on um2 not being limited to 0dB gain which makes it mess up when launching source games or giving programs the ability to sound volume output

mighty forum
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my list so far lol

molten lotus
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this guy does not know much, the only stuff he comments on is the appearance of things, you know he has no idea what he is talking about when the biggest difference he can spot between two interfaces is that one makes a clicky sound when turning the knob

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doesn't even have the noise level measurements off of the internet

mighty forum
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So basically, with this setup + whatever mic I pick, it's going to be better than any 100-250$ usb mic?

molten lotus
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I don't think there are usb mics that expensive

mighty forum
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There are many of them lol

molten lotus
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I mean if you get an xm8500 then a c1u or an mpm1000u is going to sound better in a raw recording

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preamps aren't going to save a shit mic

mighty forum
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how do you feel about At 2035?

molten lotus
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I don't know about it

mighty forum
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but someone is selling it locally for 75$ and I presume these things are okay to buy used

molten lotus
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that also has background audio issues

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also you can just listen to mics yourself you know

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google a voice recording and listen

mighty forum
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Should I just learn how to get rid of background audio noise instead of buying something at a hardware level to prevent it? I do worry about limiting the sounds I want people to hear

molten lotus
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you should just buy the xm8500 and forget about all of it

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you have no room to use a quality condenser anyways

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and I can assure you the sound quality is not going to be as different as you think

mighty forum
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You really love that microphone!

molten lotus
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I don't, it's just good for users

mighty forum
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I just dn't want to buy a new mic for 10-20 years lol

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my yeti has been daily driven since like 09

molten lotus
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the additional audio quality a condenser will give you is negligible in the mediums you will utilize it in

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if you were a singer or a musician I'd recommend it easily

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but you aren't

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the additional sound quality is wasted

mighty forum
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0 musical abilities lol

molten lotus
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yeah

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you can just listen to voice demos

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write at2035 vs xm8500

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there is a solid chance such a video exists

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listen to the different voice recordings and decide for yourself

mighty forum
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isn't it hard to use those because there are so many different layers to audio that effect sound?

molten lotus
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use what?

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demos?

mighty forum
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Too lazy to make a proper format for a review of the AT2035. Look at this as more of a sample or a realistic use for the microphone. All clips were recorded on OBS Studio! If you have any questions, leave them down in the comments below.

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i did find one I think lol

molten lotus
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i mean yeah

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this works

mighty forum
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filters and stuff

molten lotus
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preamp does not affect as much as you think it does

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and almost every reviewer tells you in demos whether they have any filters

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if they don't you can just keep in mind that they probably applied the filters to both mics while testing

mighty forum
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this video has weird 'floor noise' everytime he talks

molten lotus
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its his fan he mentions

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in 5.02

mighty forum
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I'm just on min 2

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That is the shit I hate

molten lotus
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i just skipped the unnecessary rambling lol

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complains that at2035 lets in too much background noise

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which is his fan in this case

mighty forum
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I hate the sound of the fan lol

molten lotus
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yeah I couldn't deal with that fan with my current noise gate either

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id have to create something elaborate or use some sort of automatic tool

mighty forum
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that's it. I can up the noise gate but then I get rid of all the noises I want people to hear

tawdry granite
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Anyone got any good recommendations for truly wireless earbuds I saw DMS talk highly about the nothing ear 2 but the audio reviewing website not seem to like the trebles on it

mighty forum
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that video I just watch def put more towards more on xm8500

mighty forum
tawdry granite
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Yeah I was tempted by them aswell

mighty forum
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There is some quality control issue though

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I swapped mine out for the silver pair and it has popping noises for podcast that were not in my original pair

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I need to warranty them out, but kind of waiting till xm5 and probably use bestbuy warranty. I use that warranty as a way to upgrade for cheap

hexed mesa
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I want a wireless headphones/headset for gaming/music, (mic not important) 2.4ghz wireless max 100€

mighty forum
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I can't do wireless headsets anymore sad

hexed mesa
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thinking of the following: Logitech g535, HyperX Cloud Stinger 2 wireless or HyperX Cloud Stinger Core Wireless 7.1

mighty forum
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all my friends over the last 10-15 years keep having to rebuy them due to various issues that are consistent even at the 150-250$ price range

mighty forum
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Low quality audio, BT/2.4 ghz module dying, lithuim ion battery dying and reduced life (which tbf is expected), microphone goes bad but you said that isn't important.

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They typically last 1-3 years before they get annoyed enough to replace it

hexed mesa
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As long as they last 2-3years would be nice

mighty forum
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I've had my headphones since 09. I wish they die so I could justify an upgrade

hexed mesa
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my wired budget headset lasted under 2years bcus dropped my phone and the cable is screwed, it works but barely, need to adjust it constantly

mighty forum
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A major thing to buy in a wired headphones is a detachable cable so you don't have to replace it which is a pain

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I'm about to do a mod on one pair for a friend because cat chewed through cord

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I've used my Sennheiser HD 598 (original ones) quite a long time. Although you can't buy them new anymore

hexed mesa
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yeah got a budget headset these were like 30€ so no detachable cable and i do want wireless

mighty forum
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I try to buy things for life. You can't do that with most pc hardware, but for audio, seems to be less the case

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You get what you get at that price range with wireless. The money isn't put into the actual drivers of the headphones but all the other stuff that goes in it which are the first things to fail. It probably doesn't matter hwich one you pick.

But I'd go with the most bass light since it's better for competitive gaming. Most gaming headphones are too bassy and take away from the high which are the important noises (i.e. footsteps)\

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That's about all the advice I have one that one. Although I did have someone immediately return the hyperx one saying it was worst one he ever used

hexed mesa
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there is 2 hyperx options and someone has commented on logitech just being bad but idk

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They seem the most reassuring what i can get with this money

mighty forum
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I think this is generally a good source

hexed mesa
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there is only 1 steelseries optipon which is wireless it is steelseries arctis 1 for 99€

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in their best gaming headset under 100$ 1st one is G535

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"They're prone to inconsistencies in audio delivery, though, so it's important to take the time to adjust their fit."

mighty forum
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I'd personally skip wireless, but that is just me. I mostly just use wireless for mobile purposes

hexed mesa
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mostly I see abt bad mic but got my own mic so that is no problem

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These are Wireless...

mighty forum
hexed mesa
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intresting

mighty forum
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something I've been bitching at about amazon review for the last 2 years

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there was a best selling portable AC but most off the reviews were from just threads

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like for knitting

dry stratus
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sadly there are no good wireless headsets

mighty forum
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@molten lotus What do you think of the Sennheiser E835

hexed mesa
dry stratus
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there are no good wireless

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in fact, there are only like 2 headsets even wired that don't suck

mighty forum
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i also gave up on headsets a long time ago

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and my friends and gaming buds are the best evidence I have that it was a good choice lol

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Had they just went with a good paired of wired headphones (esp with detachable cable), they would have not spend 500-1000$ a piece over the last 10 years

hexed mesa
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there is no basic wireless headphones for my price

dry stratus
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there is no "seem fine for my use"
only "I don't care about the actual sound quality and just want this"

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which is where most people fall anyway...

hexed mesa
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So what do you suggest then

dry stratus
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cloud II if you want a headset sub 100...
but they're wired so...

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and the good wireless headphones are high latency

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sadly gaming headsets are targeted mainly at children and teens
so it is about the hardest place to find something good...

hexed mesa
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hyperx cloud stinger 2?

dry stratus
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no. just cloud II

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hyperX with a single good headset, but its actually just a rebranded headphone + mic add-on

hexed mesa
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the wirless ones r 120€ dunno

dry stratus
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the wireless suck

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wired cloud II and PC37x/PC38x, all of which are wired
are about the only headsets that aren't bad

hexed mesa
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so whats wrong w the wireless one

dry stratus
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they suck at their one job
sound

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ofc its fine if you don't know any better or just want wireless with lower latency and don't care about the sound quality

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but if you do, currently there is no real option for both low latency wireless and good sound quality in one package

hexed mesa
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well yeah Im not that big into audio as long as i enjoy/like them

dry stratus
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you probably fall within the "don't care about sound quality" anyway

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just something that sounds fun

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such as loud rumbling bass

hexed mesa
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Idk if bass is tht important to me

dry stratus
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in which case, just get whatever

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get too deep into audio and there is no way back

weak rapids
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somehow I returned from Wireless

dry stratus
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unless you somehow are fine with downgrading to something 5% the performance for often 2000% the price (budget in ears vs TWS)

weak rapids
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i didnt think that was possible

hexed mesa
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which one here is better?

weak rapids
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i actually bought cloud Alphas like a few days ago cause they were on a big sale here and im obv returning them, but for normally $100 USD (i got them for like $80 CAD), they are pretty aight

hexed mesa
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comparing my current headset against G535

dry stratus
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the right

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also, look at the raw frequency response

hexed mesa
lean grove
hexed mesa
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Im using the left one and i have been happy abt it

dry stratus
# weak rapids somehow I returned from Wireless

I want to go wireless, but instead of just looking at TWS or wireless headsets
I am here looking at jank wireless adapters and such...
my wallet hates me for getting even slightly into audio

weak rapids
dry stratus
hexed mesa
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What does Leakage mean?

weak rapids
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sound leaking from the earcups

dry stratus
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this boost...

hexed mesa
hexed mesa
weak rapids
weak rapids
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"I heard ya like bass"

hexed mesa
dry stratus
hexed mesa
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Well guess that answers it

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and im not using my whole 100€ they r 90€

mighty forum
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is that pre tax....?

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here a 90$ purchase would end up 97$

unique wind
dry stratus
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its never what you end up paying, so why would you?

blazing shard
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Looking for a mid range headset and mic combo for streaming, gaming and media consumption preferably an over ear headset that can go both wired and wireless like the skull candy hesh ANC.

Thank you in advance

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If this isn’t possible give me the reality and the solution

blazing shard
# lean grove Audeze maxwell

This one?

Audeze Maxwell Wireless Gaming Headset for Playstation, Mac, PC, and Switch https://a.co/d/7J6zPQw

blazing shard
#

100-300USD*

blazing shard
nova wagon
#

Oh fuck
Well where are you from then?

blazing shard
nova wagon
#

Hmm
I guess cloud ii tbh

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The other options are not remarkably better

blazing shard
#

So I’m at the mercy of amazon, eBay, Newegg etc

blazing shard
nova wagon
#

Like almost anything else
There's the audeze penrose, but the problem with you is shipping

blazing shard
nova wagon
#

Oh shit

blazing shard
#

How about the Steel series Arctis nova 7?

nova wagon
#

Do they accept other sites that are not Amazon but do business in the us?

blazing shard
nova wagon
#

There's your Maxwell and it's in stock

#

Also this store is goated, they have a 1 year return program

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So that you really have time using the headphone, see if it fits you

blazing shard
#

How does it compare to the arctis nova 7? Is there a site I can compare the 2 like rtings?

nova wagon
# blazing shard How does it compare to the arctis nova 7? Is there a site I can compare the 2 li...

https://youtu.be/YWjuUKkX6rs
Its pretty new so right now there's only a review of this in the vacuum

In this video, Resolve provides an overview of the revolutionary new Audeze Maxwell gaming headset. In this video, he does a deep dive on of all of its functions and features, along with a lengthy discussion on the Maxwell's sound quality for both music and gaming. Check out how this does for audiophiles as well as gamers.

Audeze Maxwell: https...

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But i'm confident that this blows every gaming headset out of the water

blazing shard
nova wagon
nova wagon
#

Do take a watch at the review.
It is very nerdy, so if it feels overwhelmed to you then feel free to skip straight to the gaming stuff

blazing shard
#

Will do

mighty forum
dry stratus
mighty forum
#

It's quite annoying.

dry stratus
#

its the same reason why I think taxes shouldn't even be counted as income, and instead just be the company's job
considering it isn't an option
you HAVE to pay it

mighty forum
#

yeah it happens at point of sale. It use to be amazing to buy stuff online. The buyer didn't have to pay state tax. Technically you were supposed to but no one did lol. Well as for individual in consumer market. Now Amazon has to collect the state tax (or any other online company)

dry stratus
mighty forum
#

Japan government loves their floppy discs apparently or so I've heard LOL

dry stratus
#

still using paper and coins for a lot of their stuff

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lots of elderly ig

violet heron
#

they're starting to transition from floppy discs to usbs, but many people are against it since it's small and easy to lose

dry stratus
violet heron
#

woah there bud, one step at a time

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you're going to blow their minds

dry stratus
#

I mean, they aren't small
and still better

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even HDDs are but they are ancient...

#

time to go sata SSD at least

dry stratus
shy lodge
#

Clueless so what is accuracy and what is precision

lean grove
shy lodge
#

ah

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wait what would be right for mice pepeThonk just one of the tech chats?

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also can tell you that that is not true

buoyant vale
unique wind
#

i don’t think there are any people knowledgeable about mice in this server

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tech chat 1 will just tell you to buy a logitech g502 and then rant about how lightweight mice are overrated

molten lotus
hardy vine
#

Hello, just 5 minutes ago my Sennheiser Jubilee 58x right ear has stopped functioning completely, and I was thinking of buying the grado sr80x. I mostly listen to music and play games and voice call with friends so I am not looking for something insanely good, just something that is worth my money. What do you think about the sr80x? any other recommendations?

lean grove
lean grove
hardy vine
molten lotus
#

its very unlikely that the 58x themselves broke

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big chance its the cable

hardy vine
#

how can I get a new cable

molten lotus
#

internet

hardy vine
#

ah amazon has it

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how can I even check though

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like whats actually wrong

molten lotus
#

swap l/r?

hardy vine
#

yeah that could work

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thanks for the idea

molten lotus
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np

hardy vine
#

yeah it works fine on the right side so it is the cable

molten lotus
#

there you go

hardy vine
#

do you happen to know if I can get new ear mats and that thing cloth film thing for them as well

molten lotus
#

sure you can

hardy vine
#

only amazon?

molten lotus
#

not sure

hardy vine
#

hmmm the cloth film thing I am not sure about

hardy vine
molten lotus
#

I don't know

#

earpads affect sound so its generally a good call to go for originals

hardy vine
#

word

molten lotus
#

though this doesn't mean you wont like aftermarket pads either

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it's just hit or a miss

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more often a miss

unique wind
foggy scarab
#

^^

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Astros are very comfy, been wearing them for 9 hours in the car lmao

crimson urchin
#

does anybody know any good budget (best if under 50) usb mics on sale rn

crimson urchin
foggy scarab
#

They also care about tech

foggy scarab
fast cedar
#

Can I ask an audio support question here?

foggy scarab
#

Definitely, I won’t be the best to answer it, but this is definitely the channel for that kinda thing. Ask away

dry stratus
mighty pier
#

What are some good wireless earbuds under 60 bucks

#

All I rlly do is listen to music and watch TikTok

dry stratus
mighty pier
#

In ears

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I was thinking ab the jbl tune 130NC TWS

inland bobcat
#

bought an old soviet mic

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ordered influencer arm and shock mount for it cause I have a silly vision

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gonna be cool

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gonna be sweet

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decided on some elgato arm cause it was on sale

static acorn
slim mason
#

Too bad astros are pretty meh otherwise

dry stratus
#

Leather pads = useless for 80% of the days because too hot

unique wind
#

i hate beyer's stock silver pads

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the velour ones

weak rapids
#

They were like a cloud tbh

unique wind
#

they feel stiff and rough to me

weak rapids
#

You sure you arent thinking of life?

tender frost
unique wind
#

i like squishy thick leather pads

stark aspen
weak rapids
#

My old Razer headset was interesting

#

Most of it was leather but the part that touched your head was fabric

molten lotus
#

hifimans are also like that

#

hybrid pads

tender frost
#

Dekoni also sell pads like that

unique wind
#

i had to change the pads on my he400se because the fabric contact material was itchy

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i found aftermarket pads that feel very similar aside from being pleather entirely instead of having fabric contact

lucid phoenix
#

Are the Sennheiser hd280 pro any good?

unique wind
#

i think it would be better to get the akg k361 if theyre available in your region

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similar price but much better headphone

weak rapids
lucid phoenix
#

Im looking for some headphones to use to monitor my audio recording

unique wind
#

what is your max budget?

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the sennheiser hd560s would be excellent for that but they come in at around $160 instead of the $90-110 we were just talking about

lucid phoenix
weak rapids
lucid phoenix
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Around 160 usd

weak rapids
#

They on sale for $199 CAD rn

lucid phoenix
#

The hd 560

weak rapids
#

Got mine a few days ago and they’re great

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Yep

unique wind
#

theyre exceptionally neutral so theyd be great for monitoring or mastering

weak rapids
#
lucid phoenix
unique wind
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akg k371 if you want a closed back

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although they wouldnt be as good

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the akg k371 are tuned for enjoyment not monitoring/mastering

lucid phoenix
#

I just wonder, I normally see people using audiotechnica

unique wind
#

yeah unfortunately a lot of people in the content creation space use objectively bad gear and then recommend it to their audience

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the beyerdynamic dt770 and audiotechnica m50x are not good, i fell for the trap myself and own dt770s but stopped using them a while ago

lucid phoenix
#

Ok thanks then

molten lotus
#

@lucid phoenix do not get hd560s for monitoring

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open backs are a big mistake for audio monitoring

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they do not reflect what other people will hear at all

unique wind
#

by that logic you should use razer krakens for mastering

unique wind
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but feel free to give them an alternative

lean grove
#

Monitoring and mastering are not the same thing

unique wind
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i hate monitoring my own voice with closed backs but i suppose im an outlier

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what should they get then?

unique wind
molten lotus
molten lotus
unique wind
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m50x dead

molten lotus
#

its a shit headphone

#

but it's excellent for monitoring and mastering

unique wind
#

wouldnt the m40x just be better

molten lotus
#

eh sure

unique wind
#

what are the parameters for deciding what would be a good headphone for monitoring

molten lotus
#

not having anything you would want in a headphone

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like soundstage

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imaging

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layering

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if the headphones are not good at this then they are good for mastering generally

unique wind
#

i guess that would explain the invention of in ear monitors

molten lotus
#

dt770 are also decent

lean grove
# molten lotus they correlate a lot

Monitoring you want to make sure that everything is being picked up correctly. You don't want any background noises clipping, weird noises. So in that case all you want is isolation and negative dynamics.

unique wind
#

dt770 sounds pretty unnaturally wide to my ears because of their lack of midbass

molten lotus
#

well yeah

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they are

haughty girder
#

dt770 is huge

lean grove
#

Mastering is when you make sure that everything sounds good for the entertainment medium you want.

haughty girder
#

references

lean grove
#

Movies on theaters are mastered differently from movies on the TV

molten lotus
#

generally you would want both

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for whatever you do

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given you aren't a radio operator or something

unique wind
#

still crazy to me that flat response he400se slam significantly harder to me than dt770 which have a sizable bass boost

molten lotus
#

if you need good monitoring the odds are you also need good mastering headphones

lean grove
#

That's the "planar bass"

molten lotus
#

yeah

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its thin but

#

it slams nice

unique wind
#

works great for modern music subbass

lean grove
#

Yes but you don't give a boom arm jockey hd600s

molten lotus
#

classic too

molten lotus
unique wind
#

i cant imagine how weird linear bass iems would sound though

lean grove
#

Very rare conditions

unique wind
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they need a big boost just to sound similar to flat response open backs

lean grove
#

You want to hear only what your mic is picking up

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Everything else is irrelevant

molten lotus
#

if it's just frequency response you can establish that with eq michael

unique wind
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idk how people use he400se with lesser powerful amps because my amp is 2.4w 32ohm and it feels very appropriate

molten lotus
#

your volume knob climb may be wacky

unique wind
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2/3 knob is where it starts to get uncomfortably loud and that's usually the max youd want to go on any amp

molten lotus
#

also headphone outputs of speaker amps has resistors in its circuit

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if you use that

unique wind
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im also running -5.4 preamp in software tho

unique wind
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so that makes them considerably quieter

lean grove
unique wind
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gotta offset the 5db <60hz shelf

foggy scarab
#

Good DAC please? Simply because I want one, that and/or an amp for pretty cheap please

unique wind
#

budget and country ?

molten lotus
#

there is not much point to getting a dac if its going to be cheap

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unless you don't have one

unique wind
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unless u have an ass motherboard

molten lotus
#

yeah

foggy scarab
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US, and just pretty cheap

unique wind
#

2017 era motherboards have noticeably worse audio than something new

molten lotus
#

define cheap bro

foggy scarab
#

Not expensive 🤷‍♂️ like maybe $20

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Somewhere around there

unique wind
#

whatever that cx dongle carmon always suggests is

molten lotus
#

what sorta fucking dac do you think you are going to get with that

unique wind
#

cx31993

molten lotus
#

guys suggest me a gpu

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50$ budget

foggy scarab
unique wind
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klaus being angsty as always

foggy scarab
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That’s why I said “cheap”

molten lotus
#

100$ to have an actually audible minor difference

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300$ to have a noticeable difference

foggy scarab
#

Ok, then I guess a dac is not for me

unique wind
#

for $20 the best option is a usb c to 3.5mm dongle adapter that says it has a "cx 31993" chip in it

foggy scarab
#

How about an amp?

molten lotus
#

same

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well amps change sound more than dacs from my experience

unique wind
#

from everyone's experience

molten lotus
#

but you aren't going to get anything sounding different below 100$

foggy scarab
#

Damn

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How about a headphone Jack to iPhone connector that doesn’t make my headphones sound like shit?

molten lotus
#

the cheapest dac/amp i'd recommend is zen air dac period

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below that just stick to your motherboard or dongles

molten lotus
#

sure?

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it wont make your shit sound better unless your current setup is particularly bad

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but go buy an apple dongle if you feel like it

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costs like 8$

foggy scarab
#

I have one, it makes my headphones sound much quieter and suckier than they actually do

molten lotus
#

it's just a volume difference

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amps have different outputs

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%50 audio on windows slider isn't going to sound the same volume

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lots of people also think other items are better because they sound louder without volume matching

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happens a lot when comparing lossless to lossy audio

foggy scarab
#

On iPhone full volume is still pretty sucky for volume to me

#

Like not super audible unless I’m in a much quieter environment

molten lotus
#

what are your headphones?

foggy scarab
#

Astro a40s but I have no issues anywhere but iPhone

wind scaffold
#

was the Logitech G635 a good buy? I got it for like $30 cheaper than the G935 would have been

lucid phoenix
#

I never got a more clear answer of what to get for monitoring. Let me explain why I need them.
-I’ll be recording audio on my Zoom h4n field recorder and I need to get a good accurate audio monitoring from it

lean grove
# unique wind cx31993

@foggy scarab there are lots of good little dongle DAC amps that use this cx31993 chip. Just Google "cx31993 dongle" and you'll get tons of results.

molten lotus
#

he has an apple dongle

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and he says its not enough

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and to my knowledge cx has the same output

lean grove
#

1 volt

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Hmm

unique wind
#

less on iphone

#

wait no

lean grove
#

Less on Android

unique wind
#

mb i had it bckwards

molten lotus
#

lol

unique wind
#

common android l

unique wind
#

in ear monitors with construction noise blocking headphones over top of them

lucid phoenix
# molten lotus define accurate

That will give me q semi clear idea of what the field recorder is actually hearing. So I can actually hear the clear voice it’s recording

molten lotus
#

so you want the most natural sounding headphones

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hmm

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hd560s or k361 might be good for that

lean grove
#

361 is closed and mega sensitive

molten lotus
#

why is it being sensitive a bad thing

unique wind
#

crazy how we looped right back to what i suggested

molten lotus
#

he didn't elaborate to what he wanted

lean grove
#

You can't always trust that field recorders are gonna have the best output

unique wind
#

everyone knows that the harder the headphone is to drive the better it sounds because reasons

lean grove
#

You can brute force your way to overwhelming outside noise

unique wind
#

ananda stealth going for 550usd rn on hifiman site

dry stratus
#

ew, ananda

unique wind
#

new

#

if ew ananda stealth then ew XS because theyre very similar

#

it's basically just a headband and sensitivity difference

dry stratus
#

ananda sounds as dead to me as the sundara did

unique wind
#

not enuff bass

foggy scarab
#

Sooo, any recommendations for me?

unique wind
#

if you already have an apple dongle then there is nothing worth buying under $100

dry stratus
#

sounds thin, lifeless, and so on

molten lotus
#

like you might not like anandas

#

but calling them as dead as sundaras is far too insulting than that headphone deserves

dry stratus
#

having tried both, that is what they sounded like to me

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just a slightly better sundara

unique wind
#

i think i could easily bass shelf an ananda

dry stratus
#

even KSC75 sounded less dead than those did last time I tried

unique wind
#

thats not surprising at all

#

ananda stealth would probably run off of fiio utws5 if i dont eq them

#

but then there wouldnt be enough bass so oh well

lucid phoenix
molten lotus
#

well yeah

dry stratus
unique wind
#

imagine paying $1600 for that

dry stratus
#

boost starting at 700-800hz

lean grove
#

That's pretty normal for biodynas

white gate
#

Hopefully this is something that might be useful/interesting to many here, something I've been working on for a while.
Measurements and in-depth design information of audio gear have become more widely available in recent years but can be quite confusing! With this glossary to hand, you'll be able to read and understand just about any audio measurement or design explanation you might come across. https://headphones.com/blogs/features/the-glossary-of-audio-measurements-and-terms

Headphones.com

Audio terms can be a bit difficult to understand at a glance. This article serves as an introduction and guide to audio measurements, and a glossary explaining what all of the different tests and definitions you might see are, how they’re done, and what they represent.

unique wind
unique wind
#

using open back headphones like speakers

#

better than monitor speakers tbf

lean grove
#

💀

unique wind
#

i really need to stop being cheap and pick something out for desktop speakers

lean grove
#

Diy some

#

You can get endgame diy speakers for like $500 each.

unique wind
#

thats pretty affordable

lean grove
#

There's a ton of really cool speakers that use that tweeter

unique wind
#

that is exceptionally flat 60hz - 20khz

lean grove
#

Yes.

#

And extremely directive. It relies less on room treatment.

oblique palm
molten lotus
#

@unique wind I have $190, is the recommendation still he400se’s?

unique wind
#

i dont like them without eq

oblique palm
#

CSS Criton 1td is $709, though. Should be reasonably easy to assemble... after assy probably around that $500-per-speaker pricepoint.

molten lotus
#

Okay, can you recommend me some?

#

🫶

lean grove
molten lotus
lean grove
#

So. It really does depend on quite a few things.

#

They also have kits

unique wind
#

sennheiser hd560s for openback
akg k371 for closed back

#

hifiman he400se with aftermarket pads and eq is awesome but that takes effort and it needs an actual amplifier

foggy scarab
#

Hey biggie

weak rapids
#

Im firmly in the belief that sound quality should be judged completely without EQ

oblique palm
weak rapids
#

Eq should never be brought up in sound quality of headphones imo

unique wind
#

because calibration is a standard process before judging displays

oblique palm
#

If you're talking start to finish, Ie. Milling/cutting MDF, assy (gluing), and finishing that's more like $500 alone per speaker on the low end

unique wind
#

if i wasnt allowed to eq headphones then i wouldnt be happy with most open backs

lean grove
#

Again, skill issue.

unique wind
#

because almost all open backs have subbass rolloff stock

lean grove
#

If you can't diy speakers then yeah sure you can't diy speakers

#

Like I wasn't saying "oh man you can get endgame speakers for $500"

#

I specifically said diy

molten lotus
#

Thanks :)

lean grove
#

And, really, if you wanted to cheap out on the baffle and the material, you can do it yourself with a hand saw.

#

And a jig saw.

oblique palm
#

and a drill

#

and with clamps, and glue, and a workspace

lean grove
#

And a drill.

#

Okay entropy if you don't have tools to diy then yeah you can't diy

buoyant vale
#

diy does kinda imply soldering and woodwork

lean grove
#

It really does

#

Since. You know. The do it yourself part.

#

"you're telling me I need tools to assemble this thing? Nobody told me that!"

unique wind
#

the virgin budget restricted diy'er fears the gigachad wealthy pay somebody else to do it man

lean grove
#

Really. And the pay someone else to do it is gonna have a much better product.

oblique palm
#

linuth Sounds like a skill issue

lean grove
#

Idk, man. You're seeming to get worked up about nothing.

unique wind
#

im the guy whos poor and also too lazy to learn how to diy

lean grove
#

Most people have access to those tools. And they're usually quite cheap at pawn shops.

#

So a saw, drill, jigsaw, I could buy all those things for $100 easy.

weak rapids
unique wind
#

or you could just get a pair of emotiva b1+

#

or nht super ones

oblique palm
lean grove
#

You're right Michael, you can also just get worse speakers.

unique wind
#

yep

oblique palm
unique wind
#

nht is the only manufacturer i can find that offers decent affordable sealed speakers

#

i prefer sealed subs and speakers

lean grove
#

So. Something must have ticked you off

oblique palm
#

No, I just happened to drop by here to have a friendly conversation about an interesting topic. Are you sure you're not projecting?

foggy scarab
#

You were a bit rough with it from my reading

lean grove
#

I'm projecting a massive image saying "you are being pedantic"

foggy scarab
lean grove
#

Entropy is into audio

#

He doesn't usually hang around here

tender frost
foggy scarab
haughty girder
#

????

haughty girder
#

and it's not like I like either

molten lotus
#

@unique wind what we’re those iems you were recommending me?

molten lotus
#

Oh hi klaus

#

Been a while

molten lotus
#

I don't have anything against it but it's weird when someone comments on eq'd performance of headphones rather than stock

molten lotus
#

Can I get some decent iems + iPhone cable for it for ~$40?

#

no idea

#

Currently my card is hd560s, some weird takis flavor I never tried, and I still have money and need earbuds lol

lean grove
#

Id say it's worth considering in a review. Some people do like to know if a headphone can be eq'd well. I usually see it towards the end.

molten lotus
#

that's fine

foggy scarab
#

Eq’d?

lean grove
#

When you EQ something

molten lotus
unique wind
#

theyre $19 or $22 i believe depending on if you want a mic cable or not

molten lotus
foggy scarab
#

I would have thought so

unique wind
#

and then cx31993 or apple dongle are like $10

molten lotus
#

Fank you

unique wind
foggy scarab
#

Are there any cables I can get to replace the one on my Astro a40s? They have a Jack that’s bigger than a 3.5 on one side, and the cable it came with just bothers me, the mute on it is annoying

molten lotus
#

Can get 2 of the apple dongle for $10

unique wind
#

baller for iems

molten lotus
#

Mhm

#

Thanks Michael

#

Cool beans

#

takis is not good for iems

molten lotus
#

They get hungry

#

snickers are generally denser so you can save some price/performance that way

weak rapids
unique wind
#

i plug my speaker ports with peanut butter

molten lotus
#

Klipsch R-41M :)

unique wind
#

what flavor is that

#

cant tell what color the bag is

foggy scarab
#

The red ones

molten lotus
#

“Takis dragon spicy sweet chili”

foggy scarab
#

I think

#

Oh I’m wrong then

unique wind
#

im too white for regular takis so theres no way i could eat especially spicy ones

molten lotus
#

I’ve never tried the spicy sweet chili ones

#

$10 for a bag tho

#

Expensive

#

(Big bag but still)

unique wind
#

i havent even so much as looked at a picture of astro a40s since the xbox 360 era my friend

#

so i dont know about aftermarket support for them at all

unique wind
molten lotus
#

Ikr

#

Only getting it for me and my sister to try

#

I’m a cool big brother like that

deep berry
unique wind
#

blue takis are the only ones ive tried

molten lotus
#

I've tried every single american flavor

deep berry
#

they're the same as regular takis but stain your fingers much more

molten lotus
#

mhm

deep berry
molten lotus
#

maybe

#

its the floatplane aftertaste

deep berry
molten lotus
#

green one is guac

#

dont care for it

#

I hate the ranch one

deep berry
#

regular/blue is good

molten lotus
#

the explosion ones are good

#

I don't care for the nitro ones

deep berry
#

better than any flamin' hot cheeto

unique wind
#

all forms of cheeto are disgusting

molten lotus
#

my favorite is the og (so far)

deep berry
#

so why HD560S

molten lotus
unique wind
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disgusting

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cheetos just taste bad

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ill show u what u need to get

molten lotus
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uhhh

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michael said so

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and I've heard good things

deep berry
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HD599 are cheaper and iirc lighter

unique wind
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this is where it's at

deep berry
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also i dont mind heaviness

deep berry
unique wind
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hd560s seem to have better bass

molten lotus
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dang

deep berry
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i am allergic to bass

molten lotus
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achoo

foggy scarab
deep berry
deep berry
foggy scarab
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Alright then

unique wind
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extremely unbelievably mind blowingly common east coast W

deep berry
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eh
its a small price to pay for being far af away from Florida

unique wind
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florida is funny

molten lotus
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i live quite opposite to east coast

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not fully opposite

deep berry
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floridians literally just

molten lotus
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florida man fights off police force with armored bulldozer

unique wind
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civilians are encouraged to round up burmese pythons and kill them

molten lotus
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florida man slaps pregnant women for smoking

unique wind
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so dudes will just be grabbing 8-20ft snakes by the neck

molten lotus
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florida man breaks into house, shaves cat, steals nothing

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I conclude that florida men are based

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but ohio is becoming the new florida

deep berry
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florida man domesticates rattlesnake

unique wind
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HUEHUEHUEHUE

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@molten lotus buy me topping a90d

molten lotus
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only $600

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sure

foggy scarab
unique wind
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im gonna move to florida and be a snake wrangler

foggy scarab
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Same, just don’t die 👍

molten lotus
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wire me half your paycheck

foggy scarab
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Thank you for the other half

unique wind
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i am the apex predator

molten lotus
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im not trapped here with you

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you're trapped here with me

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doom music plays

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unique wind
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get the a90d noob

foggy scarab
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thats a pretty good amp based on specs tho

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tons of clean power and three gain steps

molten lotus
foggy scarab
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You didn’t, I just assumed

unique wind
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@molten lotus

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what is this connection called

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the outputs

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aren't those banana plugs

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and rca

unique wind
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i dont know if theyre 'nanner plugs

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which is why i was asking

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cant get a good picture

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im kinda interested in this

foggy scarab
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isn't that the new schiit speaker amp

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I mean what else could it use

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if not banana or bare wire which doesn't look like itd fit

unique wind
foggy scarab
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It is indeed the new schiit

molten lotus
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Ok dude

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What

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The

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Flip

stoic kayak
deep berry
foggy scarab
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Thanks, when should I expect it to arrive?

molten lotus
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now

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open your mail

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you will find a pipe shaped item

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ignite the string attached to it

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it will deploy a signal for us to airdrop the 4090

foggy scarab
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Alright

obsidian urchin
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I want a magni/modi but pocket sized/portable, any recommendations?

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HD6xx headphones

molten lotus
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What is the best Soundsystem? Surround sound system, clear voices, for playing games on TV, and for Movies on a TV.

lean grove
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With room treatment and calibration of course

molten lotus