audio-tech

[dry stratus]

I have 0, because all I do is be at home, walk to the gym, walk to the store for food, and walk back

[haughty girder]

Well for me it's more that I need music or sth to focus and prevent my ears from ringing

[dry stratus]

also, I actually hate bass, just ask the others in this chat

[haughty girder]

I remember

I used to live here...

[dry stratus]

I have the same, but in my case its just noise is needed

the first half tho

[haughty girder]

yea mine is if it's not something I can focus on, it'll start ringing

so random noise doesn't work

[dry stratus]

without anything to guide my thoughts at all I go mad

or well, basically just auto to hyper negativity

[haughty girder]

same

[nimble dirge]

The support installed the audio driver manually, and it fixed 70% of the problems
I can hear through the speakers and 3.5mm port, but not through the USB ports

[molten lotus]

usb ports use the driver of whatever device is plugged in

[nimble dirge]

I don't know in exact terms, what that means

and this isn't my laptop

And the owner probably wouldn't allow anything to be done to the whole of the operating system

[nimble dirge]

Please elaborate?

[molten lotus]

the usb devices you plug in have their own drivers

unrelated to the windows audio drivers

[nimble dirge]

Ok so I found out the problem accurately

My USB controller has some software problem (probably it is its own driver's problem, as you mentioned) only with my laptop

Other USB controllers are working fine with my laptop
And the problematic USB controller is working fine with other laptops

So, now I'll simple use the other USB controller (same product) with my laptop, and it'll work fine

Although the problem isn't resolved, but practically my problem is resolved

Thanks for the info anyway @molten lotus

[molten lotus]

Np

[umbral charm]

Anyone able to recommend a pair of wireless headphones for £60?

[lean grove]

What's wrong with the last two answers we gave you

[dry stratus]

there hardly even are wired worth talking about for that price .-.

[bitter hollow]

Why do you keep asking in the same server

You're not gonna get a different answer, it's the same people

[umbral charm]

Already told u before I didnt want earphones

[leaden cloak]

“Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact… same fucking thing… over and over again, expecting… shit to change” - Vaas from Farcry

( I got warned for saying his last name lol)

[valid sigil]

any of you build your own boxes for speakers/woofer? I feel like a lot of pre build boxes are too small

[lean grove]

Parts express has subwoofer boxes.

How big were you thinking

[valid sigil]

I built mine but i was just seeing if anyone else thought the same

used the cheapest plywood lol

bigger boxes supposedly increase group delay but they sound better overall when i hear them

[lean grove]

🦍

Did you use any software to tell you how big your box should be

[valid sigil]

yep

i even built a 6th order, which is supposedly horrible

i tuned it more like a 4th order where the high end is doing most of the work and the low side is just ported to help excursion

[lean grove]

Well it's only horrible if you prefer having actual bandwidth over spl

[valid sigil]

i got pretty good bandwidth lol

[lean grove]

Got any squiggles?

[valid sigil]

a lot of woofers suck in a bandpass

like i could go buy a dayton reference, and lose 2/3 of my bandwidth

[lean grove]

Well at least you did bracing in your cheap ply

I've been trying to think of a 4th order that can do 20-250hz in a tower speaker cabinet.

Only 1.2 cubic feet.

[valid sigil]

Its not flat but Bose does the same thing and it sells

[lean grove]

That looks like a 6th order bandpass

[valid sigil]

pretty decent response out of a cheap 8"

[valid sigil]

that might be hard to get. you can tune them high, and it just turns into a sealed box for the lows

I did that with a pro 15". box was huge, but it had a huge bandwidth

[lean grove]

I prefer something more linear.

Flat to at least 30

[valid sigil]

like my box is cool, but i could just add a second woofer and double the power and it would be flatter

mine is built more for a car

and cheapness

going in a delsol which is tiny

[lean grove]

Just remember to be considerate of your neighbors and people on the street as you drive by 🙂👍

[valid sigil]

i am also thinking about dayton reference woofers, i could fit 2, 10" reference woofers in that same box volume

and i think the reference can handle a decent amount of power with that alimuinum cone

too indecisive with all the different ways to build it

I dont see a lot of videos of people pushing reference woofers with lots of power on youtube

I also built bass horns, they get twice as loud for twice the space, i could just have 2 6th orders

I might build a bass horn for a 240z since the entire car is a bass horn, i could make it smaller and just use the car to complete it

and give it a 100 watt amp to confuse people at car meets

they dont play super low is all

[sudden epoch]

So uh, I might be in the market for a new USB C to 3.5mm dongle. Any suggestions?

[bitter hollow]

apple

[sudden epoch]

Even for Android? Because I do remember getting an Apple branded one and it worked fine

Then I lost it and had to get an Energizer one and that one's got connection problems(left ear not sounding full)

[bitter hollow]

yes, apple didn't pick a weird proprietary implementation so it works fine

[lean grove]

Or you can try and find a cx31993 dongle. There's a lot of different brands that use that chip.

Most of which will probably last longer than the apple dongle and not give you volume limitations on Android.

[sudden epoch]

I'll see if I can find one. In my search, I did notice that there was a better EQ App than Samsung's EQ. Is Poweramp Equalizer any good?

[lean grove]

For Android yeah.

[sudden epoch]

Okay. And it probably is better than the provided Dolby Atmos setting, right

[lean grove]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Dolby Atmos probably does more than just a simple EQ

But whether or not that's a good thing is not really a given

This is something you can easily find out for yourself since it's free

[sudden epoch]

I mean, for now, I dig it.

But we'll see later.

[haughty girder]

Dolby Atmos isn't an EQ, it's a reverb + phasing trick

Poweramp equalizer is one of the best eq apps for android

[tame vault]

Either Apple or FiiO

[tame vault]

I personally haven't had any issues with volume limitations on headphones
Interestingly, the only place I've had issues with volume limitations has been with my speakers and my PC, where max volume on my PC is lower than max volume of the Chromecast Audio and my Raspberry Pi with a Hifiberry DAC (With headphones though, max volume is too loud for me, but my headphones aren't hard at all to drive)

[lean grove]

It's just that on Android the apple dongle you're not getting the full 1 volt output. On top of that the other dongles usually are much sturdier.

[ocean pulsar]

ive broken 2 apple dongles and the output is limited to just over .2v on android
cx31993 is 1v at max volume down to 20 ohms on all oses, is about the same price, often comes with a usb a adapter, and is significantly harder to break (havent managed yet

[tame vault]

I wasn't aware of that. I had read that some Android devices have issues with the Apple dongle but I had only seen issues with Exynos-based devices (I think?) having issues with outputting audio to it

[ocean pulsar]

well i can confirm its not an exynos problem as I have no exynos devices lel

regardless of that, the cx31993 is not measureably different at 1v, and is significantly better built (at least the generic dongle is)

[tame vault]

What I had read was devices flat out refusing to use it, this is just the first time I'd heard about the volume limiting
That makes me wonder what the volume limit doesn't exist on, because both my PC (Running Fedora Linux) and my phone (Pixel 7) get my headphones to the exact same volume

[ocean pulsar]

at the same volume setting?

[tame vault]

Yeah, the maximum setting is the same on both devices

[ocean pulsar]

very strange

[molten lotus]

could be because they use a standardized output voltage

but I also doubt its the exact same

did you measure it

[ocean pulsar]

maybe fedora also has the volume limit but its not a problem since your cans are sensitive?

[ocean pulsar]

they do use a standard output voltage, its 1v

[tame vault]

I didn't, though for me nowadays it doesn't matter at all

[tame vault]

Probably, used the dongle with a pair of kph30is for a very long time.

[ocean pulsar]

the main thing of note is that the he400se are noticeably too quiet when at max volume on dong on android

and that the line out when plugging into an aux in in a car is very significantly lower than all the other sources

all of my other audio needs it didnt matter since i didnt need that much voltage

but again intentionally buying a product made to wear itself out as quickly as possible sickens me

[tame vault]

In case anyone asks why it doesn't matter for me anymore, I modded a pair of KSC75s to add Bluetooth, so I only use the dongle to output audio to my speakers and currently don't have a functioning pair of wired headphones

[tame vault]

Yeah, currently building an audio mixer into a custom network audio streamer I'm building specifically so that I can keep the dongle in as good condition as possible (Though I could also just run my audio through ethernet to my network audio streamer)

[ocean pulsar]

ive moved my entire audio setup into optical

with a motu lp32 as the mixer

HDMI to toslink adapters are goated lel

everything supports them

[tame vault]

Ah
I'm unfortunately not able to do that at this time since I have neither the hardware or the space (I have roughly 17in11in5in to work with, and only my Chromecast Audio has TOSLINK built in)

[ocean pulsar]

thats quitter talk

the mixer doesnt need to live on the desk, thats a waste of space

web interface for the win

[tame vault]

The way my desk is set up it has to be on my desk or very close to it. I have a custom desk that has height adjustment
Also though, with where my audio set up is at, I'd like to just get my PC's audio running through ethernet to my network audio streamer since I'm pretty sure it has the best DAC I own

[ocean pulsar]

why?
optical cables are extremely flexible and can easily run 100m in spite of the spec

if your streamer is your dac, you just need 1 optical running to it

and most pcs already have optical out

[tame vault]

There's two reasons
One is that my motherboard for whatever reason has no optical out and the other is that I'm building a completely custom network audio streamer, so I ended up leaving out any optical input (It seems like there is one USB dongle I could get that has optical in, but it's 30 dollars for whatever reason)

[ocean pulsar]

$40 for a single dongle with input and output
I just bought 2 lol

[lean grove]

Or one USB

[tame vault]

Also though, since both my PC and my network audio streamer are using pulseaudio, running my audio through ethernet is pretty easy. It does add the smallest bit of latency (though thanks to it being wired it's both low and consistent) but if I'm doing something that the latency is too much for, audio quality is the smallest of my concerns

[ocean pulsar]

yea i looked into trying to get linux to be my mixer, but pulseaudio was the only one with the features i needed, and it doesnt support avb, which means id need to build a device to basically become a motu m32, and i had no chance of getting something as stable or as small...

also fpga audio engines are goated

[tame vault]

I didn't know fpga audio engines were a thing

[ocean pulsar]

a large number of digital mixers are fpgas

[tame vault]

oh that... That makes a lot of sense

[ocean pulsar]

lol
the lp32 happens to fit that description as well and as such has cutthrough rates nearly as low as analog

tho once you actually need to mix things it slows down ofc

[tame vault]

Ah

Is it all right if I post a video of my network audio streamer (more specifically the UI I made for it) here or should I put it in #creative?

[umbral charm]

Is it worth buying used headphones?

Nvm I think I'd rather not buy used headphones 😂

[tepid torrent]

If it saves you a chunk of cash, yes

That is the main benefit of buying used

[umbral charm]

Theyre wire but I save like £100

[tepid torrent]

Wdym theyre wire

[umbral charm]

wired*

[tepid torrent]

Like the headphone is wired?

[umbral charm]

I was looking for wireless but found them

[tepid torrent]

Ic ic

[umbral charm]

Theyre steelseries arctis pros

£45

I dont mind staying wired I just want something with a longer wire if I get one bc my current is close to tugging

They look in good quality too 🤷

[tender frost]

Garbage sound quality though

You'd be better off with HyperX Clouds

[umbral charm]

these? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/hyperx-cloud-alpha-gaming-headset-black-and-red-10168923.html

[dry stratus]

No

Cloud 2

[umbral charm]

I can get them used for like £30 or new for £65

[dry stratus]

Which?

[umbral charm]

these

[plain widget]

gaming headsets yeah they're not worthy buying used

[umbral charm]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295569766516?

Damn I love ebay links

[plain widget]

something more "serious" totally is, you could save a lot of money, but I'm talking about wired only stuff that's usually 200$+

[umbral charm]

My offer of £35 for steelseries pros were accepted 🤷‍♂️

[tender frost]

You can remove everything after the first ? in the link to clean it up

[umbral charm]

I see thanks 🙂

[molten lotus]

why

they are awful

you have been asking advice for like four days now

why is this the conclusion you came to

[umbral charm]

Im sure there's better options yes but when I was asking yesterday and the day before I was getting recommended earbuds for £8..

[tender frost]

Which earbuds?

[umbral charm]

Dont remember tbh

[stark jolt]

Beats Studio Buds or AirPods 3?

Which one should I go for?

There’s a $15 difference. AirPods are a tad bit expensive.

[umbral charm]

Idk, I dont wanna sound like a dick but when I was tryna get help I was either getting told buying a pair of headphones for my budget is pointless or being recommended a pair of earbuds. All I wanted was the best pair of wireless headphones for what I was trying to spend

I'm sure I'll be happy with the headphones anyway. Im currently using a razer headset that Ive had for like nearly 3 years now

[stark jolt]

I have had AirPods 3 before I lost them and I never had any complains, but a lot of people have recommended me the beats. Haven’t tried it tho.

I use an IPhone and don’t really care for anc.

[umbral charm]

Only reason I came here for advice in the first place is because I have access to it. Usually I just went and bought one of the first things I saw for my budget and "looked" decent.

The reviews I saw of the arctic pros are good but I'll see when I get them

[hexed mesa]

I need a wireless headset was thinking of getting logitech G535 but I have heard of it having audio issues

But does anyone have some wireless headset to recommend, decend battery life would be nice, sound quality decend and comfy

My current headset is jbl quantum 100 these r a budget headset ehich I have had for a year or 2 but the cable broke

[molten lotus]

what is the best budget dac?

define budget

[molten lotus]

iFi Zen

spend less you won't be happy spend more and you won't notice

[hexed mesa]

My budget would be 70-90€ maybe 100€

There is steelseries arctis 9 for 120€ but idk if i wna spend tht much

Also was thinking of razer barracuda x

But g535 has me most tempted

[molten lotus]

what would be the external version of sound blaster z?

[iron beacon]

My beloved Sony WH-XB900N sadly broke today and since you can't really get them anymore I'm looking for a new model that can match my experience or surpass the one I had with my WH-XB900N headphones. I've tried the newer Sony WH-1000XM4 headphones but I don't like them because they have less base and the highs sound less full and more metallic (I don't know what I'm saying exactly, I don't know much about audio lingo
Please can someone help me find new good headphones

My budget is flexible but my target price would be around 170 bucks

[iron beacon]

Oh an preferably the headphones would have great bass no matter whether they are connected via Bluetooth to my phone with the sony app controlling the headphones and the headphones being connected via a 3.5mm jack

If someone can find me good headphones I'll pay them $10, I can't really afford more but I know that it's nice to get rewarded for effort 🙂

[dry stratus]

Actually, good bass is likely not what you want

What you want is probably just loud low quality bloated bass

[iron beacon]

Yes I want loud bass but I would also like it to not be low quality

[dry stratus]

That’s impossible

It is either good, or loud

N700NC M2 is the good wireless option, the bassy option is “don’t ask here, just buy some random garbage in the store with bass marketing bs”

[iron beacon]

I just like it when it go bum haha

[unique wind]

conpin hates bass

[iron beacon]

I've noticed

[dry stratus]

he is asking for bloated rumbling loud bass

[unique wind]

this will be challenging

[iron beacon]

Well I want the rest to sound good though

[dry stratus]

Can’t really make the rest sound good with bloated bass, because it means you can’t actually hear much other than bass

[unique wind]

almost all, if not all, bluetooth headphones will sound very different when wired instead of running wireless

and they’re usually a lot worse while wired

[dry stratus]

Most sound terrible wired, because it disables the software bs it does

[unique wind]

it would be easier to have two separate sets of headphones, one wireless, and one wired for at your desk

[dry stratus]

Or just IEM with adapter

[iron beacon]

The problem isn't wired vs wireless, it's mainly the sound is controlled by the android app vs it not being controlled by the android app and running with the "factory eq" which doesn't go well with boosting bass through an other software eq on my pc or mobile phone

[iron beacon]

But that's more expensive and I'm traveling a lot

[iron beacon]

Why

[iron beacon]

Ah

[unique wind]

like conpin said bluetooth headphones have a lot of software processing that only works when using the headphone’s own built in amplifier

and when running wired they turn into “dumb” headphones

[iron beacon]

Okay well then 2 pairs it is

[unique wind]

i recommend the same ones he did, the akg n700nc m2 have a pretty decent bass boost already out of box

but have clean midrange and treble

[iron beacon]

That's only tru for wireless here though right?

[unique wind]

i believe so

i can’t find any measurement results of them running in passive wired mode so i don’t know

but that would be safe to assume

[iron beacon]

Hm I hate it that you can't really go to a store and try a lot of electronics products before buying them

Any other alternatives or is that already 100% the best choice

[dry stratus]

Other option is outside of budget

And bit worse sound

[iron beacon]

Tell me anyways, I can pay more then my target price if they have an advantage

[dry stratus]

Bose quietcomforts, worse sound but much better anc

still reasonably good sound tho

Just costs like 100-150 more

[iron beacon]

Are those earbuds?

[dry stratus]

No, headphones

[iron beacon]

Oh, whats the exact name? I can only find earbuds

[dry stratus]

Or well, a line

You have the earbuds and the 45

Quietcomfort 45 is the headphone

[iron beacon]

Oh yeah found it

But the n700nc m2 are either not available or 299€

:/

[dry stratus]

They are sold out a lot, yes

Here they are 160€, lel

[iron beacon]

Where?

[dry stratus]

Nether

[iron beacon]

Oh okay

I'm still open for other suggestions 😅

[dry stratus]

That’s it

Those two

All others are wired

Or well, focal bathys ig?

But its almost 1000

Well 800€

Bit over budget

[nimble dirge]

Arctis 1 vs AKG K361

Even Arctis Prime

[dry stratus]

K361 every time

[nimble dirge]

And Arctis 3 and 5

[haughty moon]

K361

[dry stratus]

Always the k361

[nimble dirge]

It's so good?

I thought Arctis was like very high-end

[dry stratus]

Yes, but also All steelseries are trash

[nimble dirge]

Oh

That's new

[dry stratus]

Fragile and “gamer sound” (aka bad)

[nimble dirge]

Bass? 😂

[haughty moon]

Better than k361 is Australis ... I haven't heard of another closed back that is better in between them

[dry stratus]

Its just average consumer doesn’t understand what counts as quality, its just “louder = better” its like the “higher number = better” that tech noobs have

Same thing as “the heavier something feels, the higher quality”

Which results in people just putting weights in their products…

[nimble dirge]

I honestly haven't tried anything in audio
I don't even know what is actually considered good in average market

[nimble dirge]

🤣 💀

[haughty moon]

If you want something to game that has a microphone you should look for the hyper x cloud II or the sennheiser pc37x or pc38x ...

But a headphone and a seperate microphone will always be better

If you want that then akg k361/k371, sennheiser hd560s or hd6xx or hd600 or hd650

[lean grove]

audeze maxwell is newest headset hotness

[haughty moon]

How much are they ? Cause audeze ...

$$$

[lean grove]

$300

but at the moment it seems like thats actually a reasonable price

[haughty moon]

it's expensive but not as expensive as I would have thought it could be

[dry stratus]

Is it good tho

[haughty moon]

Do they measure well ?

[lean grove]

yes

[haughty moon]

Nice to know

[supple kestrel]

are the seinheisser 660 good

[lean grove]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/1-DoryjNzOuybMtd1jpbItDVOrP3Zs4hROooy1hwUsM/https/global.discourse-cdn.com/business6/uploads/headphones/original/3X/4/2/42865a93b0238679183771c08bb77e3737a689b2.jpeg?width=1777&height=910

[dry stratus]

Tin can

[haughty moon]

Bassy

[lean grove]

the 660's ahve the right amount of bass for conpin

[dry stratus]

Sound to much like a tin can for me

[supple kestrel]

can i also ask how do you audiophile folks determine whether a flac file is truly lossless

[dry stratus]

But yes, the right amount of bass

[supple kestrel]

i use spek but that doesnt seem very accurate

[lean grove]

i usually just trust that the file is lossless

[supple kestrel]

bro watch them export a mp3 as flac with louder/normalized audio 🗿

absolutely trolled and rolled

[lean grove]

you're right

thats what "they" are always up to

absolute hijinks and tomfoolery

[dry stratus]

They = klaus

[supple kestrel]

see this is like mp3 levels apparently

but it's ripped from the disk because i ripped it

but other mp3 files are this level too

this is what a "true" flac file looks like, which i torrented from a trusted ripper

but the thing is both are actually lossless, it's just impossible to tell whether the first one is an mp3 or not

[lean grove]

i usually go off bit rate.

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that sounds like you haven't heard audiophile headphone prices.

[lean grove]

if its above 1000 kb/s i assume its high res

[nimble dirge]

I mean, I consider Apple as high end too

Am a student right now, haven't started earning well

[plain widget]

apple in general? yeah their stuff is uh, expensive.

but also like ||https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-SUSVARA-Over-Ear-Full-Size-Headphone/dp/B0716R6NDT|| one headphone.

[nimble dirge]

Mac Pro 🤣

[nimble dirge]

Bro WTF

[plain widget]

just a headphone.

[nimble dirge]

That wouldn't be my dream setup's cost even in the next 5 years maybe

[plain widget]

jk

this isn't what you should be striving towards, everyone has their priorities

[molten lotus]

So I have a record player and my Pc but one really good set of speakers I tryed building an Audio merge thing and it doesn't work could someone point out what I might of messed up(the thing in tape is a resistor I jsut covered it to prevent shorting)

[zinc rain]

@unique wind the 560S’s were a W. Thanks.

[dry stratus]

My favourite headphone together with he6:

I really should just keep some money saved up just for when I find a used he6…

Would be willing to take a flight for it

[hexed mesa]

Does anyone have a wireless headset to recommend? Budget under 100€ preferably

Tbh doesnt need to be a headset, i do have a table mic but the headphones would be for gaming and music bonus points would be if it could be used on phone

[tame vault]

Only deleted my message because I forgot to ping them, I wasn't sure if it could be connected through the chassis

@molten lotus if it's not working, I'd try connecting the ground lines with wires, even if it seems like the ground lines should be connected through the chassis

[plain tulip]

That looks depressing

[supple kestrel]

you can fake bit rate

[plain tulip]

Is the song only percussion? Only data up to 5khz

[supple kestrel]

nope its piano only

[plain tulip]

Oh

Makes sense

[supple kestrel]

its a very beautiful song though

[plain tulip]

I got some I could show ya

[supple kestrel]

waveforms?

sure send away

[plain tulip]

Yea I have spek too

[supple kestrel]

yeah idk ima be real i like high quality audio and try to get all my music in a lossless format from a cd rip but i honestly cant tell the difference lol

if anything its probably placebo on my end

[plain tulip]

This is what a 192khz FLAC looks like

[supple kestrel]

oh shit ive never seen only green and blue before

[plain tulip]

It's basically impossible to get data up to the top via conventional methods

theres "red" at the bottom

Like 2 pixels

[supple kestrel]

more than enough hehe

[plain tulip]

This jazz song is mostly comprised of trumpet basically

[supple kestrel]

ah

most of my songs are anime soundtracks either torrented or ripped by me

[plain tulip]

Oh god, symbols too
can hardly hear the other instruments

[plain tulip]

All of mine are torrented

[supple kestrel]

yeah i dont rip anymore

[plain tulip]

I should start paying for the songs I love the most but I don't have the money for that

[supple kestrel]

why rip when others can do it for you

😎

[plain tulip]

This is what one of Suisei's new songs looks like

[tame vault]

Also, what resistor value did you use?

[molten lotus]

10k

[lean grove]

yeah but why would you

[supple kestrel]

it may not even be intentional

editing a mp3 file and exporting it as wav or flac can give much higher bitrate than the true bitrate

something to be aware of

[tame vault]

pfft

[molten lotus]

Jsut set the trigger gets rid of that hiss

[tame vault]

But then you're removing the noise that was in the original recording, so it doesn't sound like how the artist intended

[molten lotus]

artists don't >intend< shit engineers make the "intended" sound.

[tame vault]

I know, my previous message was pure satire lol
I also find it funny how "as the artist intended" literally came from Beats marketting

[misty nymph]

I stick my TRS cable into wood

So I have more Ohms

More ohms = quality

Only a lightning strike may drive these headphones now

The zeus itself

I'm the higest fi

[median frigate]

will eq damage sound quality in long term?

[white gate]

No

[median frigate]

Ok

[lean grove]

@white gate has LTT talked to you at all about videos? Or even asking for a recommendation for someone competent?

[bitter hollow]

They just hired people from RTings, which is probably the closest thing to what they're trying to do

[fallow tide]

What is the best software that isn't audacity that can be used to record audio from a usb turntable?

I have a vinyl that has a boat load of tracks not found online and wanna put it onto my phone.

[lean grove]

Well my problem is that they keep saying wrong things every time they make a video. And not just oversimplified technically inaccurate, but downright incorrect that a basic discord bozo knows better.

[bitter hollow]

Well yeah, their writers are not labs people, they're generalists who don't do audio stuff regularly

[lean grove]

Again, this isn't about being too general. This is about saying things that are just simply incorrect. They should be able to at least have a labs people glance over the script.

[bitter hollow]

why? that would be incredibly inefficient

labs is supposed to work on product testing, not script review

does LTT even do much scripted audio content?

I'm pretty sure like 99% is just them unboxing headsets on SC

[dry stratus]

I mean, normally you wouldn't have people who don't know anything about the product do the review
especially when it comes to things you have to hear, not see

[bitter hollow]

LTT doesn't review audio products

the only recent thing they've done is the audiophile card thing, iirc

before that

I think it might've been the abyss stuff?

[dry stratus]

I mean, they've done a few

tho its basically just first impressions

that abyss video is also just that

[bitter hollow]

short circuit is afaik totally unscripted

they just unbox a thing and use it for a bit on video

[dry stratus]

Linus probably the least brain dead audio listener on shortcircuit

he at least uses something that isn't some corsair headset, kraken or steelseries like the rest, but a HD6x0

[lean grove]

If they're cutting corners and putting out incorrect information because it's simply more efficient to, that is a bad thing

When they compared the planar iems from audeze that wasn't a short circuit

And they're gonna start publishing actual data.

[bitter hollow]

they put out incorrect information constantly lol
I don't know why you'd be surprised that they get stuff wrong about a niche hobby

their data is being published by different people

it's not like their tech writers are going to be the ones in charge of testing products

[lean grove]

That doesn't seem like a problem to you?

[bitter hollow]

generalist content is never accurate about niche content

[lean grove]

Again. That doesn't seem like a problem?

That they constantly put out bad information and their writers aren't experts?

[bitter hollow]

like
it's basically a given that a non-expert source talking about things you know about will get things noticeably wrong

[lean grove]

.

[unique wind]

it’s a waste of energy to gripe about it tbf nothing is gonna change

[bitter hollow]

audio is simply not a mainstream segment, so LTT can't afford to hire an audio writer

so they're inevitably going to make mistakes

[lean grove]

That's genuinely such a piss poor take it hurts.

Getting people to talk about this in their own community can change things.

[bitter hollow]

sure? they have channels you can contact them through

[lean grove]

I've sent emails.

[bitter hollow]

they're probably not reading this channel in their discord, though

[lean grove]

I've dm'd the presenters on short circuit.

Afaik they think I'm just some nerd

[unique wind]

nah it’s just being real

obviously i’d prefer if everything they put out is objectively correct but it’s not gonna happen

[lean grove]

Nah Michael. If three people are talking about this you're right.

If 50 people are? Or 500? Every time you bring up a LTT video people correct stuff?

What happens when you bring up a zeos video in any audio discord

They immediately go off.

[unique wind]

i think labs is linus trying to fix this problem

it’s just nowhere near done

[lean grove]

And you'd think they'd start doing a better job.

[bitter hollow]

eh, I think labs is intended to give them a competitive advantage

they're still going to make errors in videos about niche things, especially non-tech

[unique wind]

he did say something along those lines in a recent wan show

[lean grove]

And that's not a good thing!

[unique wind]

gotta build moats

[dry stratus]

zeos with his illegal altars scattered across his room and his constant not safe for life word choices...

god he's annoying

[unique wind]

the virgin audiophile fears the chad audio enjoyer zeos

[bitter hollow]

but his opinions are wrong :(

[dry stratus]

Bass hater/HE6&Sus Shill

[unique wind]

you’re not a human being so you’re not eligible to give humans audio gear recommendations

[bitter hollow]

checkmate objectivists

machines can't hear audio

therefore

[unique wind]

it’s always weird to me how different the video and audio enthusiast realms are

audio is like use what you think sounds good

video is calibrate to these same standards all studios use

[bitter hollow]

I'm pretty sure speakers do calibrate to a standard

we just can't do that for headphones

[unique wind]

headphones are cope

the virgin headphone listener fears the chad room corrected studio monitor user

[dry stratus]

speakers trash, change my mind

[unique wind]

you’re wrong

(i refuse to elaborate)

[dry stratus]

do it

[unique wind]

they’re just straight up better

room corrected full range speakers are the pinnacle of fidelity

everything else is coping with space or budget constraints

[lean grove]

Literally tho. Churns gear recommendations for affiliate link money. His personal server was full of people saying don't listen to his recommendations until he realized how much it was hurting his bottom line and banned most of the more vocal people and the mod team that let it happen.

[bitter hollow]

Nah, you're just too poor for your own orchestra

[lean grove]

Michael is poor, you're right light.

[dry stratus]

am I a sloth?

[unique wind]

true

[unique wind]

true

but i don’t listen to bands or orchestras anyway because i’m under the age of 55

[lean grove]

Live performances have a natural treble gain to account for the boomers

[unique wind]

presented by audiotechnica and beyerdynamic

[white gate]

Not in any official capacity

Though I don't think the higher end audio market is likely to be a focus for LTT anyway. Just from a size of audience standpoint it wouldn't make sense for them to get heavily into that I don't think.

[white gate]

Yeah I think this is more a writer/internal structure thing.

I mean hey, I'd be more than happy to help out or just provide light input if they'd want me to do so.
Their recent video on the snakeoil audiophile PC components for example could have been a LOT better with some improved methodology and also could have incorporated some other interesting points about some of the issues and general concepts, but they didn't include anything like that unfortunately.

For acoustics related stuff they have the people in labs who would be more than qualified to pre-check scripts and suggest alterations, and whilst I don't know how involved they are in the writing process, I'd hope that they do get them more involved to avoid mistakes or 'flakier' content.

For audio source gear and audio related electronics though, it does seem like there's some lack of internal know-how and some improvement to be had there. A few recent videos have definitely had some odd statements that are either outright incorrect or were written in a way that is only partially correct.

[lean grove]

It's just astonishing how many resources they have and how much effort they wanna put it, but they keep landing short.

Literally any half-decent discord bozo would be miles ahead of whoever they got now for writers.

[tulip garnet]

Anyone know how to use Sound pad on steam? i forgot how to loll

[white gate]

I mean part of it is just that a lot of the audio stuff they're covering is a big deviation from either PC focused knowledge or actual acoustics knowledge.

They have extremely knowledgeable people in all sorts of software and PC hardware areas, and Sam has great experience in the areas of testing and presenting data related to headphones/acoustics.

But there seems to be a gap in terms of other knowledge relating to a lot of things surrounding either audio hardware/software which has become evident in some videos both on LTT and shortcircuit, how much that is obvious to general viewers idk, but even as you say anyone even slightly 'into' audio would find the Moondrop Venus video on shortcircuit for example a little painful to watch.

But also certain things even surrounding the testing of headphones themselves are in my opinion not necessarily great indicators.
The B&K 5128 video showing their methodology where the in-ear mics were generic and did not sit inside the ear itself, meaning they only tested bass for example. (Whereas especially given LTTs resources, making in-ear mics using actual ear impressions would have been a no-brainer IMO for much better results. You can get REALLY ideal measurements if you use in-ear mics past the 2nd bend with deep ear impressions, but it's just not super cheap that's all). This test methodology literally excluded practically the entire ear-gain region which is where a HUGE amount of variance between people's different HRTF responses comes in.

But also apparently they are planning to do headphone sound demos in future videos or labs content which is a really bad plan and can be outright misleading unless you are doing this with BOTH the 5128's HRTF EQ'ed out of the sound demo (which they are doing), AND the listener's headphone FR being EQ'd out (which they are not doing). But even then there's significant challenges and near impassable limitations. So I'm disappointed to hear they're planning to go ahead with that.

However the main thing is just that LTT doesn't really do much audio content. Hiring someone full time for that sort of thing likely wouldn't make business sense for them, and the high end audio market isn't a big enough audience to warrant LTT trying to produce content catering to it.

[lean grove]

When you say high end audio market are you saying by the audiophile standards or by the gamer standards.

Cuz yeah it doesn't make sense for them to review $1000 headphones every day. But they're definitely reviewing $200-$400 headphones every once in a while.

[white gate]

Kinda either tbh.
Other than a few outliers like airpods or something, any sort of audio content is almost certainly going to be less applicable to the majority of LTT's audience than other stuff. And if it's over a few hundred bucks then that gets even more drastic.
But they'll still do some now and then cause the occasional vid about expensive audio gear (be it a review of a product or a slightly less serious vid like the snakeoil PC component one) is still going to be intriguing to their audience. It just wouldn't make sense to do all the time

So I guess the TLDR is:

It's a shame that there definitely seems to be a need for someone to provide a bit more specialized input for LTTs audio content, but I also get why excluding labs, it wouldn't make sense for them to hire someone for that.
Maybe they'll contract someone in future. They previously did that for their audio TechQuickie videos for example

[unique wind]

it’s easy to forget how little the average person knows about audio, video, or pc hardware when you spend a lot of time in tech discords

[tulip garnet]

What type of files do i download for sound pad without getting a virus Like from youtube sound effects how would i download it

[sudden cypress]

Is there anything I should look for in an aux cord? I know not all cords are made the same so I don’t wanna buy a bad one or anything

[white gate]

Generally try to look for one that has shielding if possible, but so long as you go for a known company like Kabeldirekt or Ugreen you should be fine

They're usually quite cheap yes but their cables are decent

[sudden cypress]

https://a.co/d/4MD295y

[white gate]

Yeah kabeldirekt is good

[sudden cypress]

Alr thanks

[molten lotus]

https://emea.onkyo-av.com/ht-s9800thx

Whats yall opinion on this for pc movies and gaming

Does the movie/game need to output some specific audio for the atmos to work?

[tulip garnet]

never heard of it

Not sure how to use it

[peak forge]

Is this the right place to ask about mic’s, audio interfaces, and speakers for computers?

[weak rapids]

Oui

[tulip garnet]

eu

[sterile needle]

Question.

I have pixel buds pro, and a Sennheiser Momentum 2.

Is there a set of over-ear headphones that deliver on really, really strong ANC? I'm looking to basically block out sound from construction (apartment above) and really, really loud next door neighbours. The pixel buds pros and the Senheiser ain't cutting it.

... this purchase decision may save my sanity.

#audio-tech, what do you recommend for maximum ANC?

[bitter hollow]

bose has the best ANC right now, iirc?

dunno how sony xm5 or airpods max compare, though

[onyx iron]

Question.
I have a pair of hyperx cloud alpha s.
Ive been looking to get some better sounding headphones. are the hd6xx worth the upgrade compared to what i have?

[wispy elk]

#audio-tech

What is the best headphones for gaming around 50$

I was look at the philips 9600, for 10$ more it comes with a microphone. Thoughts? I am highly competitive and play at the highest level in multiple fps.

[lean grove]

9600 is worse than the 9500

it adds a ton of bass that shouldn't be there

[tepid torrent]

I would suggest a ksc75, despite its rather unconventional form factor and appearance, it is very well tuned at and above its price, it is open back, and it has decent soundstage and imaging, which you may find useful for gaming

[wispy elk]

Someone recommended CAls they are 30$ atm

So i went with those

But ty

[lean grove]

Cals for $30 is a good deal

[wispy elk]

Nice

[verbal fog]

its so nice when you hit the right amout of volume on your headphones where the gain in audio/quality goes up, flattens off, then starts going up again sounding a lot better

volume as in i am adding volume externally

[wispy elk]

Are they better sound wise than hyperxs?

[coral granite]

Someone please help me
I unplugged my headphones and replugged them now audio is really low and sounds different and i cant get my mic to work

and when it shows as it picking up something all that comes out is static

[open scaffold]

Did you plug them into the correct ports

[coral granite]

same as before when they were working fine

also right now i'm only hearing out of one side of my headphones

[lean grove]

for gaming, im not sure. i know that i did not like the alphas, but i didnt mind the CALs

as far as sound quality goes

[lean grove]

make sure everything is plugged in all the way. sometimes cables like to get caught. Then try turning it off and on again.

[wispy elk]

For gaming

[coral granite]

I tried 😦

[molten lotus]

"make sure everything is plugged in all the way."

thats what she said

[lean grove]

then idk

it'll be fine

but i cant say which is better

[ebon obsidian]

I love your profile description 😂

[dry stratus]

I mean, it is likely a bot

their only message is an ad

[leaden cloak]

It’s a discord meme of sorts that I don’t get

[dry stratus]

I don’t get any meme, usually just some distorted jpeg, loud noise or some low res model bouncing around

[slim mason]

its a message that pops up for people that discord suspects as terrorists etc

but so many people have it as a meme that it has lost the entire purpose lol

[covert basin]

opinions on a focusrite scarlett solo?

i found an used focusrite scarlett solo 3rd gen for 40€ m thinking on getting it

https://fifinemicrophone.com/products/fifine-ampligame-am8 also thinking on getting this mic

ill sell my blue yeti x and replace it with this

the fifine am8 is very impressive

its similiar to the shure sm7b by sounding similiar

[slim mason]

@molten lotus my zen dac broke, started just hissing on left side with every headphone I own, please tell me theres some solution, I dont want to deal with fuckin rma

[molten lotus]

do rma lol

[slim mason]

fuck me

[molten lotus]

warranty appeal time

[slim mason]

shipping and waiting and having to deal with shit sound quality for weeks

and this shit happened right when I wanted to test my diokos

[molten lotus]

try swapping left and right

see what happens

[slim mason]

it happens with every single pair I have

[molten lotus]

rma time

[slim mason]

absolutely zero sound on left side, just loud hissing

[molten lotus]

don't use that thing anymore

[slim mason]

no shit

it legit hurts my ears

idk wtf happened, I was just watching youtube and bam

hissing

[molten lotus]

no idea here either

[slim mason]

oh and it also happens when I connect it to my phone using a completely different usb cable

fuck

[molten lotus]

yeah no salvaging that

[dry stratus]

Apple dongle time temporarily

[slim mason]

fucking mint, I cant even go to the store because theres a train drivers strike until wednesday

[molten lotus]

mail ifi

[slim mason]

yeah I filled out their form

but I suspect I have to deal with the retailer, not ifi

dont fucking tell me the warranty is 12 months, I've had this for like 12.5

[molten lotus]

It's 2 years standard generally

[leaden cloak]

Oh, that’s a real thing?

[molten lotus]

I didn't think it was real

[slim mason]

I've seen it once

on some random spam bot that just advertised a scam crypto site

I thought it was a meme too but it changed the language on the message when I changed my discords language too

[dry stratus]

@unique wind something for you:

[leaden cloak]

Is that even able to be put on

[dry stratus]

no

[ocean pulsar]

no its a meme

[dry stratus]

even if I would actually like something like that as a TWS ANC alternative

and actually stay in my ears for once

[ocean pulsar]

you can use those paired with a pair of mmcx to mmcx adapters
one straight or slightly angled and one 90 degree one
if you have particularly small ears you may need 3 90 degrees tho

[unique wind]

adapters for adapters that go on your adapters that adapt to the adapter

[ocean pulsar]

yup

[elder coyote]

Anyone know of any good physical eq devices for desktop and headphones?

Something like the schiit loki but like not $140, maybe like $40 instead. I have an amp and dac already, it can be passive or without an amp or anything yk?

[ocean pulsar]

check ebay

i have a yamaha unit that works and i got it for free, i imagine other places will have similar deals

[elder coyote]

Like a traditional soundboard/mixer?

I didn't think of that

[ocean pulsar]

no like this

[haughty girder]

oh yea people get rid of them often

I believe that one is meant to go on top of speaker amps in places like auditoriums

[elder coyote]

YOOO thatsss crazyyy

I want lol

But i don't think i could fit that on my desk

[dry stratus]

how tho

[ocean pulsar]

i use mine as a footrest, i would highly recommend not getting one of these and instead getting something like a minidsp bc its beyond difficult to match the eq between the channels

[elder coyote]

or this one, https://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Professional-Interface-Bluetooth-Streaming/dp/B07Y8L4CK8/ref=sr_1_42?crid=3MZV3AR1X4MH5&keywords=sound%2Bmixer&qid=1679331686&sprefix=sound%2Bmix%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-42&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc&th=1

but then again $70 thats way up there lolol. I was hoping i could get something for like $30-40. All it needs is like rca in and rca out and like 3 knobs, low, mid, and high 😭 too much to ask for??

[hexed mesa]

Anyone able to recommend me under 100$ wireless headphones/headset for gaming, dont care abt the mic bcus got a table mic.
Will also be used for music

[molten lotus]

schiit equalizers are memes

just use digital eq or get a real equalizer

[elder coyote]

lmao fr

?

[molten lotus]

i mean loki is a 3 band fucking equalizer

it literally cannot meaningfully make changes

[elder coyote]

is digital good? (go easy on me 💀 )

Also, Id like a physical one, look cool and easy to use, but i can't find one that isn't a million dollars

[molten lotus]

100ish$ for that much

[molten lotus]

digital is good yes

schiit loki is not a bad equalizer but its useless compared to what digital can achieve

[elder coyote]

well thats more than my headphones and amp combined

....

[molten lotus]

why are you buying an equalizer if your setup is less than 100$

[elder coyote]

for funsies

[molten lotus]

buy good headphones instead of equalizing what you have

or use digital which is free

[elder coyote]

also because it's too bright with this one pair i sometimes use

so its either quiet or piercing

no in between

[molten lotus]

loki wont fix that

[elder coyote]

but digital is good and free? is it too much of a hassle?

no? i thought i would just turn down the highs or something

[molten lotus]

it will turn down the highs

issue is it will turn down all the highs

[elder coyote]

hmm i guess i got you

[molten lotus]

its a 3 band eq you can't make refined adjustments with it

also it costs 140$

[elder coyote]

i mean then again, cheap setup, so its meh if it makes those usable,

yah its too much for sure

[molten lotus]

for 40$ you wont find good equalizers first hand

so look for second or use digital

[hexed mesa]

How much did ur headphones cost?

[molten lotus]

watch a tutorial on eq apo

[elder coyote]

shhhhh 🤫

[molten lotus]

whos

[hexed mesa]

Tile to duel

[elder coyote]

so i use earbuds not headphones 💀 basically

im finna get flamed

[molten lotus]

spend the 40$ to get better earbuds

why are you buying an eq

[elder coyote]

recs?

i have 2 pairs

one was too bright

so i was tryna turn it down to use

[molten lotus]

ask @unique wind

[elder coyote]

but i can just not use it lol

[ocean pulsar]

what do you have

[elder coyote]

chu's and HOLA's

💀 im just an innocent little man do not flame me

🙏

[ocean pulsar]

test things out with equalizer apo

[elder coyote]

flame incoming

[lean grove]

Klaus uses free headphones he stole from a romanian library.

[ocean pulsar]

just test things out with equalizer apo

[elder coyote]

i also use the apple usbc dongle as a dac/amp sorta, but i got just a cheap whatever headphone amp thinking it would help drive them, idk how much power the apple thing could give

the hola works good, but the chus are too bright with it

[elder coyote]

im not home rn, so i will later

what do i do? just like find a sine wave and play at each frequency and if it isn't right then adjust

[ocean pulsar]

no

[hexed mesa]

Anyone able to recommend me under 100€ headphones/headset for gaming

[elder coyote]

lmao "at each frequency" all 20k of em

[hexed mesa]

Wireless

Forgot to mention tht

[ocean pulsar]

up the budget a bit if you want something acceptable sounding

[hexed mesa]

My wired headset is 30€ so not a big thing

[elder coyote]

I was thinking about saving up and getting K371's, but that is just such a big purchase for some headphones yk?

[hexed mesa]

I have a table mic so headset mic not important

[ocean pulsar]

well a solid dsp setup would run you $250 at least so i would recommend trying out the software option...

[hexed mesa]

I was thinking logitech g535 but i was told logitech audio is terrible

[elder coyote]

idk too much, but if you aren't concerned about a mic, maybe look for stuff not necessarily marketed towards being gamery. Look for just general wireless headphones. May give better quality at the expense of "cool" looks and rgb or sum lol

[ocean pulsar]

correct
as far as i know the cheapest acceptable sounding set is the cloud ii wireless or the coolermaster mh670

[ocean pulsar]

problem is latency

[elder coyote]

fr?? that can be a problem

[ocean pulsar]

wireless is a sound quality vs latency tradeoff that only tv headphones can get around

[hexed mesa]

Well they wont be bt

[ocean pulsar]

and the last good tv headphones were discontinued in like 2016

[hexed mesa]

So 2.4ghz usb

[ocean pulsar]

btw most of the "2.4ghz usb" use bluetooth under the hood

[elder coyote]

Also, i have some FLAC music on my PC. I run win10, is groovy a fine player or do i need something else to be running at its best?

[hexed mesa]

Fuck i thought i could get mh670 for 65euros from a website but soldout

[ocean pulsar]

also the mh670 isnt that good, its just fiiine

[hexed mesa]

Wdym? My pc doesnt have bt

Mh670 is 101€ kinda exp

[ocean pulsar]

🤷 wireless is overpriced

[hexed mesa]

Cloud ii 150€ dont wna get refurbished for 120€

There is steelseries aectus 9 in sale 120€ but i wont be able to get them bcus money and the sale will end bef enough money

[ocean pulsar]

avoid steelseries at all cost

[hexed mesa]

I been told avoid logitech and tht steelseries is good now to avoid steelseries?

[ocean pulsar]

steelseries the products are fiiiine, but the build quality is awful and they dont have any warranty process

[hexed mesa]

Oh

[ocean pulsar]

they break often and theres no way to get it fixed

[hexed mesa]

Damn

Im hella clueless what to get

[ocean pulsar]

get wired earbuds like the truthear or salnotes zero, and a 3.5mm extension cable

then save up for proper wireless headphones because they should eventually get released

[hexed mesa]

What should eventually get released?

[ocean pulsar]

good wireless headphones

[hexed mesa]

Ah

[ocean pulsar]

in my opinion the last good wireless headphones were the sennheiser hdr220s, and they have been out of production for 8? years

[hexed mesa]

Im planning on getting some 40-60€ wireless earbuds too bcus my headset kinda doesnt work on my phone anymore

[ocean pulsar]

wireless adapters > tws buds

personally use the fiio btr3k but there are plenty of great cheaper options

and you can use your same wired iems

if you must get tws, cca cra+ and kz az09 pro are a good combo

[hexed mesa]

Whats tws, havent looked into earbuds

[ocean pulsar]

tws means 1 device per ear, no wire between them

like airpods and galaxy buds

[hexed mesa]

There is jbl tune 130 on sale for 50€ and jbl tune 230NC TWS for 50€ also they are normally 70€

Also what is a better type earbuds like airpod w the stick sorta or just small fully in ear earbuds

[ocean pulsar]

those are highly unlikely to be as good as the cca cra+ which are $20 for wired and $50 for wireless

[ocean pulsar]

preference

[hexed mesa]

I dunno at all

[ocean pulsar]

i prefer the around the ear variants because its alooooooot harder to lose them or shake them off

[hexed mesa]

This type earbuds?

But so any budget earbuds at the 40-60€ proce u would recommend they dont need to be the best of the best

[ocean pulsar]

https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Adapter-Waterproof-Battery-CCA/dp/B09RZP1DKZ

https://www.amazon.com/CCA-Ultra-Thin-Diaphragm-Tangle-Free-Removable/dp/B09ZY6QTBB/

they are half price on aliexpress direct from the manufacturer

[hexed mesa]

Dunno if i personally would like that kinda earbuds

[hexed mesa]

Wait so what are these

[ocean pulsar]

good cheap wired iems

[hexed mesa]

Id just want some wireless budget earbuds

[ocean pulsar]

these convert them to wireless

[hexed mesa]

How?

[ocean pulsar]

they replace the wire with those earhook things

[hexed mesa]

So i gotta wear the earhooks?

[ocean pulsar]

that is how they are wireless yes

[hexed mesa]

Ill prob get some wireless earbuds

They dont need to be the best and would be a lot easier ordering from something local

[ocean pulsar]

ok but unless you want to spend big buckaroos we cant help you cause there really arent any good cheap options

[hexed mesa]

Yeah they dont need to be the best

Something w decend battery life

Like 20-40hours battery life 1-4hour charge

[dry stratus]

nothing

because TWS don't have 20-40 hours ever

[hexed mesa]

Around?

[dry stratus]

more like 4-10

[ocean pulsar]

if its over 10 its advertising the total amount of time including charging in the case

[hexed mesa]

Ah shoot

[haughty girder]

no?

Buds+ actually get 11 hours per charge

[ocean pulsar]

or its just lying lol

[haughty girder]

tested

11 hours continuous, can charge 2 and a bit times

[ocean pulsar]

thats very shocking

[haughty girder]

so that's about 37 hours total use

ye it's the only exception for the tws crap battery

[hexed mesa]

So anyone able to recommend some budget wireles earbuds no need to be insane quality

[haughty girder]

what's the budget

[hexed mesa]

40-60€

Jbl tune 130 and 230 r fir sale 50€ but idk

[haughty girder]

can look for original galaxy buds, maybe plus, moondrop nekocake isn't bad either but still a step down from the samsung options

JBL are good for some speakers, almost all their tws/iems/headphones are garbage

[hexed mesa]

Aight so nope

Nekocake isint avilable here

[ocean pulsar]

all of the good stuff from that company group is either sold by akg or samsung directly

[hexed mesa]

Chepaest galaxy buds r galaxy buds live at 80€

[haughty girder]

those are garbage

the only galaxy buds that was downright bad

[ocean pulsar]

i mean they also are the only tws earbuds

tho i suppose the linkbuds are earbuds too?

[haughty girder]

unfortunately airpods are better lmao

[ocean pulsar]

thats debatable

[haughty girder]

the fact it's even debatable lmao

but I find airpods sm more comfortable

[ocean pulsar]

sure but im not comfortable buying a product that cant receive firmware updates

[haughty girder]

oh

no iPhone on hand?

[ocean pulsar]

oh i do

but i wont buy a new one and you cant run updates from older versions of ios and you cant update the old phones

but even with a brand new iphone, you cant update the firmware

you can only pair them and hope apple will do it for you eventually

[haughty girder]

rly

Message just shows up

to update for me

I mean iPhone 8 still supports latest IOS

and that phone is approaching 6 years now

[ocean pulsar]

yes but iphone 4 doesnt and it doesnt appear on my work phone as an option

[haughty girder]

oh

lmfao

yea I have an 8+ that I don't use

Appletax ig

[ocean pulsar]

my work phone is an iphone se, and i tried to help someone out but even after pairing the device there was no option or button

[hexed mesa]

so these r not available

[haughty girder]

might need to have ur apple id on it

[haughty girder]

you can't order off ali or shenzhenaudio?

[ocean pulsar]

🤷 its a work phone, no apple ids

[hexed mesa]

is sony WF-C500 bad?

[haughty girder]

yea that's why

[ocean pulsar]

so my point stands

you need apple to graciously push you the firmware update, theres no way to go and get it

[haughty girder]

it's just as long as ur iPhone has your apple id and is I think IOS 14 or later actually

[ocean pulsar]

and you have to leave them connected for a while and eventually there will be a popup

[haughty girder]

mhm

[ocean pulsar]

again
YOU cannot update it yourself
apple can push an update

[haughty girder]

mhm

[ocean pulsar]

they will probably work, but they are worse than the cca cra+ which are cheaper, better sounding, and more upgradeable

[haughty girder]

tangzu Wan'er >

imo.

CRA+ if you want a bassier sound signature

but Wan'er for balanced

[ocean pulsar]

needs different tws adapter, do you have an option that work with them

[haughty girder]

it doesn't?

it uses the same QDC connector as the CRA

[ocean pulsar]

since when is .75mm = .78mm?

[haughty girder]

CRA use .75mm?

[ocean pulsar]

these are very not compatible with each other and why everyone hates kz

[ocean pulsar]

yep
all of kz and cca are .75 recessed pins

[haughty girder]

I forgot cca was kz haah

uh

I think they were called trn bt20s?

pro*

[ocean pulsar]

last i checked they were more than $60 alone

[haughty girder]

Oh

47Cad rn on ali

[ocean pulsar]

oooh nvm thats changed now

yea sale rn

[haughty girder]

yea

so a very possible solution

[ocean pulsar]

yea bt20s pro + truthear or salnotes zero probably better
could also go hola or tangzu

[haughty girder]

Yea

[molten lotus]

.75 recessed?

I thought they were .78 recessed

[ocean pulsar]

❌

.78 recessed is rather rare
infact its usually the opposite where the socket is recessed not the pins

[molten lotus]

wow that's even more cursed than I initially thought of them

[ocean pulsar]

🤷 they made their own standard long before anyone else because they didnt want to license mmcx, so they just made it up

[molten lotus]

mod your cra to 3 pin xlr just to flex

[ocean pulsar]

i forget what company it was that did the same at .78 but it was in fact later

[haughty girder]

that one is called qdc and is relatively hard to find... tho the wan'er uses it so

[ocean pulsar]

also obviously compatible with regular .78

[haughty girder]

yep

[ocean pulsar]

but what isnt compatible with .78 cables is .75

[haughty girder]

but it looks goofy

really goofy

but it works so not complaining

[feral drum]

hey could anyone help me with some audio issues on my windows 10 pc?

or should i go to tech chat ?

[ocean pulsar]

#1027757333117415424

[jade pagoda]

what are some good white speakers for pc? I want to spend around £80 which is like 100 usd

[unique wind]

edifier mr4

[silent haven]

got my hifiman sundara headband rma'd

the new one that arrived

"new"

warped harder than the original one i had

holy fuck this company

last time i buy a hifiman product

the rteplacement bolt they send doesnt fit either

bolt is slighty bigger than the opening

have to file it down

fucking joke company

giving chinese shit a new meaning

[unique wind]

👽

[weak rapids]

Imma hang myself rq

[unique wind]

oh no

[weak rapids]

A movie… with enough knowledge to have professional mics and headphones for props and an actual team, and still gets it wrong

[lean grove]

the dt770s are actually very popular in music productions

[bitter hollow]

audiophiles when they realize that music studios use shitty sony headphones or actual speakers and not $10000 audiophile grade headphones

[lean grove]

me when

[fossil yew]

I'm having a problem with my microphone

I have a hypercast mic and I bought a 3.5mm audio jack

but I'm experiencing problems

[tame vault]

They need music to sound good on car speakers and knock off earpods, of course they're gonna use stuff that isn't that great

Not to mention I think with the people that are on the mic moreso just need to have something to get timing correct with more than anything

[haughty girder]

this is for self monitoring, it's a good headphone for that

because it's very durable

you can toss it across the room and it'd damage the room more than the headphones

[haughty girder]

should've listened to the Sennheiser fanboys /s

[silent haven]

Ive tried it

Most uncomfortable shit ive ever worn

[weak rapids]

Bro the headphones are fine, look at the mic

[lean grove]

looks fine to me

axis is really just a state of mind at the end of the day

[plain tulip]

What movie is this

[quaint torrent]

Honestly the dt770 pros are my favourite wired headphones I have ever owned

[peak forge]

Okay so I’m looking for a full system replacement. Here’s what I currently have going on. Inputs: yeti usb mic, behringer umc204hd (guitar), internal computer audio from web browser, Spotify, game, discord.
Outputs: headphones (559s) via umc204hd, surround sound via mobo 3.5mm audio jacks, discord VC, in game squad chat

I currently use voicemeeter banana to do routing but it has issues with quality and is limited in its routing capabilities, or at least it’s not something I’ve figured out to satisfaction.

I’m looking to replace all aspects of the system to have a more streamlined experience. I’m thinking studio monitors in a 2.1 setup, hd6xx headphones, xlr mic something podcast or streaming quality, new interface that can do more maybe even handle the routing too.

[molten lotus]

Would the moondrop venus be a good pickup as sorta end game?

[molten lotus]

Instead of edition xs

[molten lotus]

I just like the construction. Might get tiring to wear.

[livid rapids]

i just turned off my eq

my god

the worst sound ive heard in my lige

life

how do people live without an eq

[slim mason]

beyers it is then, if you dont mind the treble

[silent haven]

had it before

solid headphones

indestructable and comfortable

dyanamic driver though

i need planars

[slim mason]

nobody "needs" planars

a good dynamic driver is just as nice

[tender frost]

A good dynamic driver can be better, too

[slim mason]

ikr

[silent haven]

ive grown too used to the planars

i like the cleaner sound

[slim mason]

so you have gotten used to the tuning on the ones you own

not the driver

[silent haven]

no

dyamics less detailed

and more bass

[slim mason]

no?

[silent haven]

day and night difference moving to planars

[slim mason]

youre actually talking out of your ass my guy

[half fog]

any dynamic ive tried has had ass bass

has plenty of quantity but its just that

[unique wind]

he always does that

[silent haven]

thick "warm" bass gives me a headache

would rather listen to planars bass

thin and not overwhelming

[half fog]

yeah less quantity but more detailed

sub bass sounds better on any planar ive used vs dynamic

[unique wind]

that’s down to frequency response tuning and how the headphone seals on your own individual head more than anything else

[half fog]

ive used a few different hifiman planars over the years and beyerdynamic dynamics and a few other brands

any time i go back to a dynamic the bass kind of is just shit

[unique wind]

if you’re going back to a beyerdynamic headphone that’s not surprising

[half fog]

it has plenty of quantity around the 60hz-120hz region but it has no real detail

then i go back to a hifiman planar and it has less bass quantity but it doesnt sound like shit in that region

the sub 100hz

or around there

and they seem like they handle EQ better without bleeding into vocals or sounding awful with increasing the amount of bass

eq more bass on the dynamics i have and they sound muddy

[unique wind]

what beyer headphones do you use

[half fog]

ive used dt 990 250ohm and dt 770 80 ohm

[silent haven]

i just turn on an EQ when i want ear rattling bass on my planars

[unique wind]

those are both bad so that’s not surprising

[half fog]

so what would you consider a good headphone from them

[unique wind]

my dt 770 80ohms can’t even handle their stock tuning

bass distorts to all hell at higher volume

[slim mason]

880 if we're talking about the 3 popular models

the old T1 is just

[half fog]

if i ever get one from them again would have to mod the cable to have a removable one

only thing i really hated on those two headphones

cable was way more durable than any other brands ive used but if its not replaceable thats annoying

[slim mason]

all beyers but the cheapest models have removable cables tho

but its not a problem on the cheap ones either because it will absolutely never break

[half fog]

the cable broke on my 990 when i layed down with them on

got caught on something when i got up and it ripped out of the earcup

solder joint came off the driver

[unique wind]

the 770/880/990 are from the 80s and they haven’t bothered retooling them to add a modular cable because that would increase production cost on an already dying headphone lineup

[slim mason]

man that takes some serious fuckin force

like to the point where that shit must have hurt your head

[half fog]

it was slowly going

like the moulding around the cable was starting to pull out before that

then that finally ripped it out

cable on my 770 broke internally at the plug end

fault in connection

plus the coiled cable on the 990 slowly will start to stretch and lose its shape

[grave oar]

I have voicemeter, vb-cable installed and now music sounds like the volume is cranked way to high on bad speakers when there is deep bass.. no matter which dials i turn down doesnt affect it. Even if i lower the volume db in voicemeter or anyother place the volume output goes down but i can still hear that the distortion is happening. As if the original source is cranked up.

[silent haven]

considering something like audeze lcd-2 for my next headphone but its really not a direct upgrade from the sundara

[half fog]

tried to re coil it with a pencil and some mild heat and it always went back to being stretched

[slim mason]

the coiled cable is only on the pro models, which also includes 880 and 770

[silent haven]

hard to find anything that is a direct upgrade, mostly just sound signature changes

[half fog]

it was the 990 pro

i dont remember the exact model names

but im fairly sure my 990 and 770 were both the pro ones

[slim mason]

sash tres if you can find a pair

cheap as fuck and imo nicer sounding than lcd 2

right now theyre not making them since theyre made in ukraine

[silent haven]

im not a fan of the "warm" sound signature people say it has

and other comparable headphones

[half fog]

what about sendy aiva

are they any good

[silent haven]

would rather have a more neutral better treble headphone

[slim mason]

I'd say the bass is definitely there but its so nice

like its not bloated by any means

[half fog]

its too bad that hifiman can make fairly good sounding headphones but they all have the worst build quality ive ever seen

the earpads being one of their shining examples

if you even attempt to clean them they will just rip apart

[silent haven]

you REALLY notice it if you ever have to take the headphones apart

[half fog]

held together with snot glue and joke stitching

[silent haven]

even something as simple as a headband swap

[slim mason]

I use aftermarket pads with every headphone

[half fog]

ive used brainwavz pads on any hifiman that fell apart

which is every one that ive used

[silent haven]

repair it once and it wont ever feel the same again

[half fog]

the hifiman stock cable falls apart after about a month of regular use too

well it has an internal connection issue at either end of it

usually on one of the earcup connectors

[silent haven]

im on my 3rd cable now in 6 months of having it

and second headband

[half fog]

i had some random 10 dollar blue stereo to dual mono 3.5mm cable off amazon outlast the cable by months

[silent haven]

and the RMA parts they sent were worse quality than the original

bolt tolerance bigger than the opening

HOW do you fuck up a bolt

only hifiman can

[half fog]

probably some tiny revision change or something stupid

[silent haven]

everything that leaves that factory has some sort of slope or warp

[half fog]

4 or 5 versions of the same headphone re released

and its a mystery which revision you get from a store

[silent haven]

its the same headband version

ALMOST the same size bolt

had to ream the opening

widen it