audio-tech

[crude gust]

An interface I'm guessing

[molten lotus]

what is it

the interface

[crude gust]

It's a Steinberg device

[molten lotus]

do you have a multimeter

[crude gust]

An old one

I do

Right, I can check it

[molten lotus]

check the resistance of the grounds of left/right 6.3 outs

[crude gust]

Or just continuity?

[molten lotus]

they might have continuity while being actually separate amps

oh though even if the ground is shared

you can't share it with the other 3.5 you are planning on conneecting

[crude gust]

All the devices are connected to the same power bar anyways tho, aren't they sharing the ground anyways?

[molten lotus]

try connecting every ground of every one of your output devices together

nothing will totally break

anyways balanced amps get damaged if you connect their grounds together

figure out whether your amp is balanced or single ended

check the resistance between the grounds of the two output channels

[crude gust]

Nothing with 200k so I'm guessing it's not connected

[molten lotus]

and continuity

nothing in continuity either?

[crude gust]

Didn't try

[molten lotus]

may as well

[crude gust]

Hold up

The connector is painted

Yeah I'm getting 3ish ohms now

[molten lotus]

its a bit more than what i expected

but its probably single ended which you want

mine measures like 0.3

[crude gust]

Between Line and Headphones i get like 0.3 aswell

But between the two lines it's 3ish

Sometimes it shows 1.2

[molten lotus]

honestly not sure

try mailing the manufacturer or something

or send schematics to someone more experienced if you can find them

[crude gust]

Discontinued product

[molten lotus]

as in send the interface's schematics

not yours

[crude gust]

Doubt Yamaha will just give schematics out willy nilly

[molten lotus]

weren't you using a steinberg?

[crude gust]

Yeah

Manifactured by Yamaha

[molten lotus]

oh

you can find schematics for amplifiers pretty easily btw

given they aren't modern

[crude gust]

Wouldn't one of those dual 6,35mm to single 3,5mm cables mix em anyways?

[molten lotus]

if they are balanced no

its more complicated than that

[crude gust]

There is absolutely no way I can make this without mixing the 6,35mm grounds

Also There's just one volume knob for Line

I can't switch between left and right

[molten lotus]

it might be split down the line

anyways

you can try if you want

3ohms is pretty low but

I don't guarantee anything

also literally every amplifier with balanced channel has one knob

[crude gust]

How would I get two 6,35mm into 3,5mm without mixing grounds?

[molten lotus]

you would use a 4.4 or 4 pin xlr

and use balanced headphones

[crude gust]

Wait what are those thingies where you have a knob where you can change how strong L and R are?

[molten lotus]

balance

[crude gust]

But output needs to be 3,5mm

Cause my speakers are 3,5mm

I have these desktop Logitech speakers

[molten lotus]

well

you might not be able to use your speakers with that then

if its balanced

you can connect balanced and make it into a single ended signal but last time I discussed that here it got expensive quickly

I don't think your item is balanced anyways but it might be in which case something will break sooner or later

you should mail customer service

[crude gust]

This is not the exact same model I have

This is a similar

[molten lotus]

I don't know mate

I am foreign to schematics and amp internals

I just know what to not connect together for it to not break

and ground can be one of them

[crude gust]

I mean, there is a 6,35mm headphone port that has left and right seperated on a single plug

But it's right where my mouse is

I don't wanna have a cable coming from there

[molten lotus]

if you want an easy cope out solution

get a usb a to usb c adapter

then get an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

easy audio out

[crude gust]

But I wouldn't be able to use my XLR mic

[molten lotus]

you can

why wouldn't you

[crude gust]

Cause cubase is a bitch

I can't have my inputs and outputs be on seperate interfaces

[molten lotus]

well I don't know mate

you can try to see whether something breaks or doesn't

I don't think it will but there is no guarantee

[crude gust]

ChatGPT says it's unlikely to break anything, even tho ground loops and unwanted noice could occure

[molten lotus]

lol chatgpt

go ahead try mate

im not saying something bad will certainly happen either, it's just a chance

[fickle tide]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B088HHWC47/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08G8WH435/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

which one is better

[molten lotus]

rewasaxcv

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[lean grove]

me too inno

[molten lotus]

wave 3

easily

but its overpriced af for 110

just get an xlr setup if you are willing to spend that much

[fickle tide]

yeah but problem is im not too good with xlr stuff thing and i dont want to deal with hundred thousand different cables and random stuff

cause im gonna put the mic on boom arm

for my discord gaming night

[molten lotus]

its literally

[fickle tide]

someone recommends me shure sm7b but too expensive for me

[molten lotus]

cable goes into mic

cable goes into interface

interface goes to pc

you select mic on pc

it works

[fickle tide]

yeah but you got lots of different dials on the interthing

interfaced

[molten lotus]

if you can't handle this you probably should stay away from any sort of computer

[fickle tide]

im quite good with windows

ive done some heavy tinkering

i just havent done much audio stuff

[molten lotus]

you have like three at most

im telling you to buy an audio interface not an entire mixing desk

https://cdn.akakce.com/z/m-audio/m-audio-m-track-solo.jpg

does this look complex

[fickle tide]

i mean its more just that i dont know which interface to get and all that stuff

[fickle tide]

not really its more just what to pair it up with and make it work

in general

[molten lotus]

get that one in the picture

and an xm8500

and an xlr cable

and you have an xlr setup

[fickle tide]

oh i see what you mean now

[molten lotus]

get a random mic arm as well and you have a good setup with an incredibly tight mic pickup pattern

that wont have any background noise to it

though you will have to stay close to the mic

[fickle tide]

no because when i asked some other people in different servers they just said goxlr and shure sm7b and they just left me confused and all

[molten lotus]

do not listen to those people

both of those items are overpriced garbage

what I recommended is around 70$ and is marginally worse than that setup

which costs 900$

[fickle tide]

i asked them why and all they said is that streamers use it and it looks cool but i dont care about stupid rgb if the audio costs garbage

[molten lotus]

its a bad setup

[fickle tide]

sounds*

[molten lotus]

if you want a digital mixer like the one on goxlr

check out midi mixer software's website

you can get an item that does it a lot better for like 50$

[elfin lynx]

Does anyone know if a 3.5 mm audio cable is dying if it makes white noise?

[molten lotus]

there are lots of things that can make white noise

try plugging the cable into different devices like your phone

[elfin lynx]

Alright

Gives off noise aswell

Maybe i just need new speakers

[molten lotus]

oh speakers

those are suspectable to ground loops a lot

and other interference

move the cables of speakers away from any other cable and electronic device

[elfin lynx]

Lemme try

[molten lotus]

speakers themselves too if possible

if they are usb powered the usb port might have bad power

if they are ground powered then the ground might also have bad power

[elfin lynx]

Worked, thanks!

[molten lotus]

👍

[elfin lynx]

I just need other cables aswell

Its 3.5mm male at both ends, than a 3.5 to red white stereo cable adapter, to a external volume know wich than goes back to the subwoofer, wich i plug my left and right speakers in

Its a mess

[queen ether]

Looking for a new set of wireless headphones for travel. The one I have now (AKG Y500 wireless) is driving me nuts by pausing the music at random. I also like over ear headphones. Budget is max 180 euro (new or 2nd hand)

[rough jolt]

JBL tune 710bt

[weak rapids]

As someone with an sm7b, the only reason to get one is if you are a professional in vocals or podcasting and NEED a flat muddy mic out of the box for perfect eqing

[elder coyote]

so i was lookin at the schiit stuff, and i saw their modi+ has this spec listed. "Sample Rates and Bit Depths: 16/44.1 to 24/192 via USB, Coax, and Optical". Now, what does this mean? Is this bit depth... = bit rate? No right? I got Flac with bit rates usually 800-1k ?

[molten lotus]

If it's very dry where you are find your ground rod and pour about a gallon of water around it. That's an old telephone trick to clean up line noise.

[lean grove]

bit depth is different from bit rate

bit depth is very simply how much range you have in your volume.
higher bit depth allows you to have a bigger difference between the loudest noise in your recording and the quietest noise in your recording.

16 bits is more than enough for most music.

[elder coyote]

ohh okay, and is there a way to view this in windows?

i saw i can add for the list, but it doesn't have values (i guess unless i add them somehow to meta data??

[lean grove]

whatever music player you use you might be able to add it as a column

might be a good question for google otherwise

[elfin lynx]

Bose 770

[dry stratus]

no

[dry stratus]

no

Cheapest BT I know of that is pretty good is AKG's N700NC(M2)
excluding in ear ofc

[shut shard]

BT in ear?

[dry stratus]

TWS ofc

[shut shard]

like BT iems?

ah

[dry stratus]

lower end price range is mostly just in ear options after all

[shut shard]

tws earbuds have decent features but the audio quality is not good, iems with BT adapters have good audio but lack in features

[dry stratus]

TWS do have better sound quality than most BT headphones...

[shut shard]

really

[dry stratus]

just because, it is harder to boost the bass to dumpster fire levels in a TWS than a full size headphone

[open scaffold]

JBL Tune 710 BT is good and is like 1/4 the price of n700nc m2

[dry stratus]

no

[open scaffold]

Gonna need more of an explanation than just "no"

[dry stratus]

more like half the cost, and "at least it is usable"

[open scaffold]

Uh they're $60. Last I checked n700nc m2 were like $230

Or have they gone down?

[dry stratus]

M2 can be found for like 160-180 here
and the older but similar version is 100-120

[shut shard]

tbh rose does look good but black goes with my setup

but white is nice as well

[open scaffold]

These

They were $60 last week. Sigh

[shut shard]

have u tried them yourelf?

[dry stratus]

when people think loud bass = good bass so companies just start boosting bass on everything to horrible levels
tfw like 99% of consumer audio sucks

jbl had one or two that were alright at least

[open scaffold]

Yes

[open scaffold]

The og are not good.

[dry stratus]

they are

newer version bit better

[open scaffold]

There is no comparison between the two

This is leagues better

[dry stratus]

It is a single "peak" on an area that at worst would make it slightly harsh at times

Excluding that we’re comparing two different measurement rigs tho

[plain widget]

tbh there ain't many differences in these wireless adapters so just grab whatever you fancy

[zenith cedar]

Is there a mic or setup that will output to my PC and PS5 at the same time?

[molten lotus]

even then its overpriced

[molten lotus]

there are tf are you on about

you don't want to get those

they do not have aptx

[unique wind]

fortnite battle royale

[shut shard]

What does that do?

[dry stratus]

@unique wind didn’t you have the fiio adapter?

[unique wind]

yeah ive used the fiio utws5 for several hours every day since i bought them

[shut shard]

Do you even notice the difference in real world usage?

[unique wind]

if it's to use with a phone it doesnt really matter which adapters you use so long as they dont have audible static or hissing

[molten lotus]

Yes

[shut shard]

Phone, ipad(any tablet), pc, laptop

[molten lotus]

Unless your phone is an iphone

I heavily recommend an aptx compatible adapter

[shut shard]

Ok

[shut shard]

Like what

[molten lotus]

trn bt 20s pro

utws3

[dry stratus]

Are they good?

[unique wind]

aside from the occasional connection issue theyre great

i only get audible hissing when using volume at 30/33 or higher

which is too loud anyway

[plain widget]

[molten lotus]

I have owned three tws adapters from trn alone myself

I know the differences

You don't want the az09

[unique wind]

isnt there a fiio utws7 now

i wonder if theyll discount the 5

[shut shard]

Utws3 fit my budget but they don't sell those here AUUUGH

[molten lotus]

aliexpress ships globally

[shut shard]

Isn't that a scam?

[molten lotus]

what

[shut shard]

what

[unique wind]

aliexpress is a legit site you just have to make sure youre buying from reputable seller with a lot of feedback

just like using ebay

[shut shard]

Well I never buy used...

[molten lotus]

If you get scammed on aliexpress there is a 90% chance it's your fault and you deserved it

[unique wind]

aliexpress isnt a used marketplace

not exclusively anyway

[molten lotus]

fiio and trn's official stores are in china and they are sold on aliexpress first and foremost

[unique wind]

i will never personally use it because im not willing to wait a month for shipping

[molten lotus]

that's also a cope

it also depends on your seller

[unique wind]

no, buying something on aliexpress to save a few dollars is coping

pooron cope

coping with the long ship time

pooron lofi

[molten lotus]

You don't have many options if the items are straight up not available otherwise

[unique wind]

i got my utws5 on amazon :P

[dry stratus]

At what kinda distance are we talking about?, and with or without anything in between?

[unique wind]

not a distance thing

[molten lotus]

fiio is fairly international

[unique wind]

sometimes they just have an aneurysm trying to connect to a device

[molten lotus]

and most chifi is foreign to anywhere outside of u.s. and china

[unique wind]

but thats just how it is with bluetooh

if you put them back in the case and take them out again it corrects itself

[dry stratus]

Just asking because I would use it also at 5 meter distances

[molten lotus]

i just turn them off and on again

[unique wind]

oh 5 meters is no problem

[molten lotus]

for trn it is

lol

[unique wind]

good thing conpin isnt asking about the trn

my room is on the upstairs floor and i still have connection when im in the basement

[dry stratus]

Many budget bt have issues already 3m, lel

[unique wind]

i mean it depends how many walls youre going through too

some will throw signal like 50m if it's in a field

but shit theirselves going through one or two walls

[dry stratus]

In many cases its also just interference from nearby electronics

Especially in the case of desktop

Wish they would change bt a bit, so it worked more like wireless

Ofc not exactly, but bt has too many issues compared to wireless thanks to how it is done..

[shut shard]

It was the opposite for me, wireless mouse keyboard n headset and when i tried to connect another headset or earbuds something would disconnect so i just use wired stuff and only BT earbuds

[dry stratus]

For me it is always just wireless works, but bt because of nearby TV gets nuked

At least on the lower end of bt

Need quite good bt devices for it to actually work without cutting out every 3 seconds

[shut shard]

Whenever i use my bt earbuds for ex playing games and then i connect to discord or something, the game audio AND discord audio sounds bad and low res or whatever you call it. This also happened with other bt devices and headsets i had but it doesn't happen with moondrop chus, what's the issue? Maybe bcz they were rly cheap bt headsets or is it just an issue with bt headsets?

[unique wind]

thats how all bluetooth devices are

they cant handle using their microphone and being headphones at the same time

[shut shard]

So won't iems with bt adapters be the same?

[unique wind]

yes

[shut shard]

Huh

[unique wind]

using bluetooth on a device for both the headphone and microphone will always make both sound bad

[shut shard]

Well ig a usable usb mic isn't that expensive..?

[unique wind]

theyre pretty cheap

like $45 for a mic and arm in a combo

[raw loom]

Okay so i installed the mr4's

they may have been a tiiiiiiny bit overkill

but goddamn the bass pops

[dry stratus]

So it sucks?

[tender frost]

We get it you're allergic to bass

[dry stratus]

I mean, the way he makes it sound to me is like a 50db "destroying the building" levels of bass boost

[unique wind]

it's a 4" monitor its not gonna do that

[dry stratus]

ig

[queen ether]

@elfin lynx and @rough jolt Tnx for the suggestions buty I have bought the Sony wh1000xm4 for 150 euro

[molten lotus]

why do you ask for advice solely to not actually use it

we didn't recommend the xm4 because it was a bad item

[queen ether]

Because this wasn't the only place I have asked

[molten lotus]

I wouldn't take advice from a place who recommends xm4 lmao

they probably read a headfi top 10 headphones article

[queen ether]

Idk had also a friend that uses them recommend me

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-chewing-bunny-gif-10746370

[dry stratus]

tfw the average person believes loud = good so asking specifically for objective performance their opinions are useless

[nimble belfry]

anyone have opinions good bad or other for an MP3/lossless player - I have about 300G of FLAC I tote around, and unfortunately and on an apple ecosystem making using my phone pretty much useless - considering a sony a306

[white gate]

Are you meaning hardware or software?

[nimble belfry]

great question, hardware - I've found the collection to be too big to properly use on any vehicle headunit I have, even my 2023 RAM doesn't like to see more than about 80GB - my pioneer unit in my audi however has no problem - so just looking for a portable to use at the office, home and in my truck

[white gate]

What's your budget?

[nimble belfry]

lol well, 2900$ for astell & kern isn't feasible... I'd say 500... ish

shouldn't matter, but my daily headphone is wired shure 846's for the most part. or some old 535's if I'm on the bike. I don't tend to use wireless headphones at all except for working out or mowing the lawn

it is the older 846's not the new gen 2s. got em on a closeout sell a few years back for 399.

[spark dagger]

pulled trigger on a B-stock Focal Clear, is my K5 Pro adequate?

[molten lotus]

Lossless is not worth it for a vehicle

320kbps mp3 will be equivalent in sound quality and greatly smaller

the difference between quality mp3 and lossless is very minor and takes lots of listening and focusing to notice a detail on a desktop setup

There is no way you can benefit from it in a vehicle

Or when you wre using wireless

[unique wind]

stay lofi klaus

[lean grove]

He puts the L and Lossy

[white gate]

I'd probably look at the Fiio M11S

M11S is $499

https://www.fiio.com/m11s

[weak rapids]

Why th the stream deck+ using wavelink virtual audio devices cause an extra 100ms of latency

[silent haven]

finished swapping my the h400se headband onto my sundara

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872694502157090827/1085000882762035200/IMG_2683.jpg?width=1173&height=855

REAL fucking sad when its cheaper to buy the h400se and steal the headband

over an actual replacement headband for the sundara

and the h400se headband fits better and doesnt rattle

sundara one fell apart in a week and was rattling like crazy

awful fucking company

[molten lotus]

Still bitching about this?

[silent haven]

?

[molten lotus]

So hifiman has poor customer service. They also provide much better products at better prices than pretty much anyone else in the headphone space.

i mean

instead of using your warranty

you spent 110$ on your own volution to replace the headband

Their qa may leave a little to be desired but so does meze's qa and audio technica, and some other companies. Pretty much only sennheiser (as long as you are spending >$100) seems to have better qa

audio technica to my knowledge also has decent qc

[molten lotus]

Sorry Audeze

oh yeah audeze has the most self destructive drivers out there

[molten lotus]

Better lifespan out of paper and neoprene

tbh if they survive a week no headphone will break

[molten lotus]

Maybe now but the older plastic drivers in dynamic would crack after a few months. Materials tech has gotten better since the early naughties.

Plastic diaphram

[lean grove]

Man I hate hifiman. They only make planars.

Feng bian doesn't even know what a headphone is who put him in charge

They should make good headphones like Sennheiser

[tepid torrent]

Fang is actually unaware of anything negative surrounding his brand

[lean grove]

Despite my best attempts

[silent haven]

hifiman worst quality control ivbe ever seen

even for a chinese company

thats just sad

sure, when it works as intended then its the best bang for your buck

but thats basicalkly a 50/50 dice roll

RMA gambling

[lean grove]

im twitter cancelling hifi man ceo as we speak

[molten lotus]

thanks nils

glad someone is finally putting that guy in his place

[molten lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

If I wanted to do a surround system for my TV what is better than using the crap relievers? Does anyone make a dac/Amp combo for surround?

Or would I just be happier with a good set of bookshelf speakers?

[scarlet perch]

Hello fellow gamers and PCers, I'm looking for some good recommendations on a new headset I've been using Tecknet GH10928 headphones for the past 3 years and while they're pretty good as a budget pair I think it's time for something better.

I love the over ear design of them as they're very comfy to wear over extended periods of time but the headphones and ear cups (I think that's what they're called!) are beginning to tear. I also have a new rig and so far the only peripheral I haven't upgraded is my headies.

Have looked at a few pairs so far online, including ones recommended by LTT, but I'm not so sure yet on what to go for. Corsair and SteelSeries seem the best but I'm a little wary of headphones that squish your ears.

Also I plan to use them for both gaming and listening to music.

[molten lotus]

that is az09 pro

[dry stratus]

I mean, the original question was about the pro

[molten lotus]

O shit

Then I sperged out for nothing

Speakers go beep beep beep

[nimble dirge]

I have to buy a headphone for my setup. I had previously decided AKG K361, but I want to know if there are better deals now?

I don't mind if it's wired or wireless

[dry stratus]

if closed back is what you want, not really

well, all options cost more

[nimble dirge]

So you mean to say that k361 is the best choice I have got?

in that price

like under $100

[dry stratus]

as K371 costs more, yes
for that price it is

there are other options for different uses and requirements
but they aren't better (like someone who only uses IEMs, or wants something with a mic, even if it sucks)

[nimble dirge]

there isn't a mic in the k361?

[dry stratus]

no, its just a closed back wired headphone with a pretty fragile build

won't break by putting it down, but you can't throw it around like some beyer or drop it on the table too much

[nimble dirge]

any other recommendation with mics?

[dry stratus]

like if you need something cheap for gaming with an atleast usable mic for chats in game and alright sound quality
cloud II works ig

not for streaming or anything tho
PC38x would be the step up but out of budget by quite a bit

[nimble dirge]

Not for gaming, but something to use to talk on calls

[dry stratus]

best option would be just get some cheap external mic with the k361
but it would be slightly over budget

and idk anything about mics

as I do not speak english or have real life friends, I have no use for mics

[raw loom]

Xd its much more than the jbl go 2 i am used to. It only goes down to 80hz anyways so the 50hz destroying floors is also negligible

[rotund pewter]

can anyone identify what model speakers these are?

tryna sell a 5.1 speaker setup and an amplifier just to downgrade to some stereo speakers

[molten lotus]

stereo isn't a downgrade unless you watch movies exclusively

[rotund pewter]

i mean for music and gaming

closest i can find to these are the hd theater 600 speakers

[molten lotus]

what is your budget

[molten lotus]

for music stereo is an upgrade

for games its a downgrade if you need directional audio

[rotund pewter]

yeah but im only using 2 out of the 5 speakers

[rotund pewter]

whatever the pioneer vsx 522k and the speakers are worth on the secondhand market plus 100-200 aussie dolalrydoos

[unique wind]

i love dollarydoos

gotta have them to buy trinkets and doodads

and thingamajigs

[dry stratus]

Build a pc is a pain right now…

[molten lotus]

that place

with the

people that ban you for calling their stuff bad

[weak rapids]

People who are thinking about building their first PC have the dumbest ideas on what you can cheap out on

“Oh you can cheap out on a psu and case”

Those are the 2 things you def dont want to cheap out on

[dry stratus]

The people that ask for help or advice, get the advice but it isn’t what they had in mind so they go on a tantrum and call you useless for not doing what they exactly wanted like they’re the king of the world

[molten lotus]

how does the case benefit you

i legit don't know

[unique wind]

room to expand components in the future, available i/o, airflow, noise dampening

[weak rapids]

Airflow

Size

[unique wind]

and of course aesthetics

[weak rapids]

Theres that legendary msi case with awful airflow

Cause there’s literally no gaps to let air in

[unique wind]

you can be that guy who just has his components laid out on a table with no case if youre based i guess

[weak rapids]

Tru

Just use a test bench

[unique wind]

but that can end up actually being worse for VRM airflow

which is why a lot of test benches have a loose 120mm fan pointed at the motherboard

[weak rapids]

My friend built a PC in a shoebox

Still had better airflow than NZXT cases lol

[unique wind]

cheaping out on a psu is silly imo because you can get one thatll last you 10-12 years for like $90

that's 1/8 of your lifespan for $90

[cold spindle]

Cheaping out on a case is not bad just get one with airflow if you cheap out. A high end case is nice if you keep upgrading but on a budget cheap is fine

[weak rapids]

“Oh yeah my PSU was 10 dol-“ crack and fire ensues

[cold spindle]

Also a fire hazard a cheap PSU yeah never cheap out on a PSU is a rule

[weak rapids]

“Yo i found this 1000w sfx psu for $5”

[molten lotus]

Anyone remember when PCP&C was the top of the tippy top for PSU's?

[weak rapids]

I dont

Im runnin a thermaltake rn

[molten lotus]

PC Power&Cooling

[unique wind]

ive never heard that name in my life

[weak rapids]

What was that amazing case company that was sued into oblivion?

Was it case labs?

[unique wind]

i know case labs but i dont remember if they were sued

[weak rapids]

Iirc a case company didnt patent their designs, another one did, then sued them for stealing the design

[unique wind]

iirc case labs died out from lack of customers

because they were huge expensive cases that most people didnt want

[weak rapids]

Ah maybe it wasnt caselabs im thinking of

[rotund pewter]

are there any compact speaker amps on the market?

[molten lotus]

yeah but speaker amps and normal amps in general are expensive

loxije a30 was at some point a really popular speaker amp for some reason

I don't know if it was just random hype or whether it was good or not

but do consider it an option

[dry stratus]

Are there even triple speaker systems?, (triangle setup)

Center front, left and right

[lean grove]

Yeah. You just get a 5.1 and remove two speakers.

[unique wind]

yeah avrs can mix rear surround information into the front l/r and still have a true center channel

[reef ginkgo]

So... I got a pair of Edifier R1000T4 and been thinking of adding a subwoofer (probably an Edifier T5)

Should I turn down the bass knob on the speaker or it's fine if I leave it at max when I have a subwoofer

[lean grove]

The bass knob should be at the middle position

[reef ginkgo]

When I get a subwoofer?

My room is oddly shaped so I need a powerful subwoofer or turn up the bass knob to have a decent amount of bass (or else it sounds very tinny)

[lean grove]

You do you man.

[unique wind]

it's recommended to not go over 50% gain on a sub in any scenario

(the gain knob on the sub itself)

[reef ginkgo]

I'll keep that in mind when I get a T5

Are there any alternatives to the T5 or is it already the best sub for that price point

[unique wind]

dayton audio has a 10" sub that's $150 also and is most likely better

but if you save up to $300 there are many better options

[reef ginkgo]

nah, I'll keep the $300 one for the (proposed) Home Cinema

i'll check for the dayton audio

[haughty girder]

I'd recommend fiio's

I don't think kz made anything that wasn't for their own .75mm connectors?

[molten lotus]

they did

[ocean pulsar]

they are practically the same, what are you using them with

both are available to buy and the az09 is aloooot cheaper

[weak rapids]

oh damn i found my latency problem

basically Wavelink VADs have an extra 80ms latency if you're headphones arent directly connected to a wave mic or wave xlr, i have neither lol

[sharp rapids]

https://www.akg.com/Headphones/Over-ear %26 On-ear/AKGY600NCBTBLK.html?ged=off&&acctid=21700000001721167&dskeywordid=92700068062390001&lid=92700068062390001&ds_s_kwgid=58700005779530865&ds_s_inventory_feed_id=97700000008383100&dsproductgroupid=1535091861812&product_id=AKGY600NCBTBLK&merchid=118766952&prodctry=US&prodlang=en&channel=online&storeid=&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&locationid=9004323&creative=291127254429&targetid=pla-1535091861812&campaignid=1534307490&adgroupid=58130723906&kxconfid=unnmhyek8&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtsCgBhDEARIsAE7RYh1GVSA-CxJs6aM8dT993BNob5rzr5i85fbdaOEV7KGE1ARTjWlUMhcaAmmWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

are these good headphonse?

[weak rapids]

Yeah this is stupid lol

[misty nymph]

Guys I was looking for some quick FLAC sounds and some asshat put 24 Bit / 384 KHz pink fucking noise and I didn't notice. My DT770pro 80Ohms were set to 80% from amp

I hear ok but I feel pressure on my ears

Am I gonna die?

[unique wind]

yeah you’re probably going to die

[lean grove]

Yeah

Was it flac or .dsd

[misty nymph]

Hmm good to know. Might as well eat one more slice from my favorite cake

[misty nymph]

https://www.24bit96.de/downloads/flac-testdateien-und-dac-konfigurationen-laden.html here

Why would anyone do this

[lean grove]

It literally says pink noise

[misty nymph]

Why would someone need FLAC pink noise

[lean grove]

Why did you download pink noise

[misty nymph]

I didn't see it I'm dumb. I was looking for some quick demo

[lean grove]

And you got a quick demo of pink noise

[misty nymph]

0/10

[unique wind]

10/10 it was exactly as described

[misty nymph]

Bad user experience I didn't like it

Honestly though, that pressure feeling would go away yea? I don't hear ringing or anything

Anybody wanna try quick too?

We can be tinnitus brothers

[tender frost]

The pressure will go after some time

Just don't listen to anything too loud ofc

[opaque nimbus]

What are some good budget headphones recommendation, I already have a gaming headset so don’t need that, just some regular ones cause my other ones stopped working , maybe under 50 bucks or so

[tender frost]

At that budget you're likely going to have to delve into IEMs rather than full sized headphones

[opaque nimbus]

I saw the anker life q20 and q30 ones amazon, they seem pretty good

[tender frost]

I think someone here would recommend the Blon BL03

Or moondrop chu, but idr the price of those

It has been too long since I've browsed chi fi lol

[opaque nimbus]

I’ll look at those ones thanks

My old ones were the sony mdr zx770bnb , is there any ones near that quality and at a good price

[glass osprey]

I love my BL01's

But I don't use them enough; just happy with my DT 770 Pro 250's

[tender frost]

Fwiw I wouldn't be surprised if the BL03 ended up sounding better

[opaque nimbus]

Yah they’re probably similar in quality , I liked the Sony ones cause they were over ear though

Is it a good idea to get some pretty cheap 20-30/40 bucks headphones for now, and then get a more high quality pair a bit later since there’s not that many at the 50/ 60 budget

[unique wind]

only if you can’t stand in ears because you can get great audio quality with $25 in ear monitors

[tender frost]

I think the cheapest best options for a lower budget are the AKG K361/371

[lean grove]

Koss

[primal fulcrum]

Koss the Plug

[unique wind]

@dry stratus specially designed for you

[plush hedge]

Hey guys, I've got my headphones plugged in via a 3.5mm jack on my monitor (because my motherboard only has a line out jack which sounds like garbage). The volume is fine - decently loud at 20% volume. However, there is no bass it sounds very tinny. This is through NVIDIA HD audio drivers. Is there any way I can fix this? They sound just fine through my phone.

[lean grove]

What headphones

[plush hedge]

I figure this is an appropriate place for this question, but tell me if I need to use #1027757333117415424 instead

[plush hedge]

JBL 760NC

[unique wind]

do you use them wirelessly with your phone?

[plush hedge]

Yes

[unique wind]

that is probably why

[lean grove]

Doubt it's drivers

[plush hedge]

Oh

[unique wind]

wireless bluetooth headphones will sound different when wired or running wirelessly

[lean grove]

That's just how the headphones sound

[plush hedge]

Ah

alright then

[unique wind]

usually they sound far better wirelessly

[plush hedge]

Rip

I bought these a while ago hoping I could use them for both my phone and PC because my current PC headset has such bad noise isolation it literally boosts bass by 0.5dB

And sound so muddy

The new ones sound super good wirelessly though so I guess that's that

Y'all have any good recommendations for some good wired headphones then, or maybe even speakers?

[molten lotus]

Hifiman HE400SE $110

unless you want IEM (earbud don't kick me audiophilistines I know IEM and earbuds are different but this is what people will understand) then for $20 you can get Salnotes Zero

[plush hedge]

Okay

I'd prefer to stick with over-ear since this is a pretty stationary use case and those feel more comfortable to me over long periods of time (generally)

thanks

but I will look at other IEMs and the zero's

[molten lotus]

The HE400SE are open back so some people don't like that but there are more benefits to detriments imhe I have a wife and 2 kids and I have no issues hearing what I need to even when it's loud in my house

[molten lotus]

what's your budget for headphones?

[plush hedge]

I mean, I could theoretically pay $100 or more but considering I already bought those other headphones as well probably no more than $80 tops

[molten lotus]

HE400SE are $110 unfortunately, but I find them worth it.

[gray matrix]

I was shocked at how much better a $50 pair of IEMs is than any headphones I've ever bought

[plush hedge]

ah, which IEMs did you get?

[gray matrix]

KZ ZS10 Pros.

I've never gone high end on headphones but I've had $200ish wired Senns in the past, pretty good Audio Technica cans, etc. It's more that paying $45 after a coupon just wrecks the shit out of any other audio device I've owned that cost significantly more and weren't bad purchases at the time

[plush hedge]

This might be a stupid question because I've never used actual earbuds or IEMs that often, but do they have any good noise isolation? Like compared to that of over-ears with a good seal?

[gray matrix]

With the default silicon eartips that came with it, the noise isolation is about on par with the WH-XB910N headphones I've had for a couple years in ANC mode

And to that point, about the same as the WF-1000XM3s I've also had for about as long

[plush hedge]

Alright

[gray matrix]

The KZ ZS10 Pros are pretty good for the price but they're not spectacular IEMS on their own... it's just that IEMs really can be that much better at significantly lower cost

[tepid torrent]

Damn what made you go with the ZS10 when there are much better tuned iems that are less than it

[molten lotus]

do those have any of the KZ issues with the other drivers not doing nearly as much as the dynamic?

[gray matrix]

Mostly laziness and feeling pretty comfortable with the price.

[tepid torrent]

bruh

They are all on amazon

[gray matrix]

Hence laziness.

[molten lotus]

I don't own any, but for just notation sake I am putting this out there that there have been multiple reports of KZ iems not getting full use of all the drivers in the units

[tepid torrent]

It would have been an equal amount of effort

[gray matrix]

They sound pretty damn good to me but I'd be open to suggestions about alternatives.

[tepid torrent]

Truthear Hola, Tangzu wan'er, salnotes zero

All better tuned

[gray matrix]

The problem with laziness is that once you put the effort in once, looking deeper and deciding is in itself more work, if you're being a lazy ass like I was

[molten lotus]

and salnotes zero are half the cost

[bitter hollow]

doesn't really matter
the low end iem market is evolving pretty quick rn, so just get whatever and if you like it then it's fine

[tepid torrent]

Imo the hola is the best out of the bunch but thats because thats my prefered tonality

[molten lotus]

I so bad want to believe that you are the A10 pilot that scored an air to air kill on a helicopter

[gray matrix]

I'll check them out, thank you for the suggestions!

[molten lotus]

what is your preferred tonality?

[tepid torrent]

Slightly dark and warm

[molten lotus]

I like harmon with a slightly lower treble (sensitivity to highs) and a well controlled bass, but I don't really mind the HE400SE low bass roll off.

[gray matrix]

I love that I'm a knowledgeable person with a lot of high-level understanding of some pretty esoteric tech stuff and I have absolutely no idea about any of this stuff. It's fun to remember that you can't know everything

[lean grove]

Well tech stuff is pretty easily compilable into "higher is better" graphs

Audio not so much.

[gray matrix]

Oh, I mean that the type of knowledge I have is much much deeper than more numbers more better, I have done low-fi A/V tech work for years, have extensive background in IT and all sorts of other tech stuff.. and still have zero real idea about audio.

Which is weird to me because of the A/V stuff, but I made stuff work and had no real preferences about it because that wasn't my domain beyond putting it all together

[molten lotus]

/DSN1DIS TABLE(NOR35N53)SPACE(A63541)USE

I hate tracking mainframe SQL contentions

[elder coyote]

I'm trying to convert songs on a cassette tape to either audio files and/or into cd's.

I have an old dual play/record cassette tape machine. It has rca output for playback and I also have a cheap little rca/3.5mm to usb capture card.

I was wondering what would give better quality:

1. rca to $15 usb capture card to pc
   or
2. rca to 3.5mm to headphone/mic splitter to apple usbc 3.5mm dongle

I guess it comes down to what I think would have better quality, the audio capture card or the apple usb-c dongle. Any thoughts?

[gray matrix]

I have deliberately purged all memory/knowledge of PHP and MySQL from my brain and will not be engaging in any of that

[bitter hollow]

the capture card probably has a better adc?
I don't think anyone has tested that

[molten lotus]

I have none of that knowledge but my stomach sinks when I see my first -904 or -911 because I know more will be coming my way.

[elder coyote]

idk, I didn't test it using the apple dongle, and I already put it away it would be a bit to get back out.

I only thought to use the apple thing after. I know people do really recommend the apple dongle as an affordable dac and I know it has the capability to do audio input, like though a headphone with a mic, so I thought it may work good and maybe better

[molten lotus]

Well connections are places where interference enters so in one you have 3 connections the other you have 2

[elder coyote]

And for recording a tape into songs / an album, any recommendations for technique/software?

My knowledge is to use audacity??? and then just hit play then record the song then trim for each song?

[bitter hollow]

I don't think people usually make 3.5mm connections so shit that they introduce meaningful noise to the signal

[gray matrix]

I mean, they do, it's called onboard audio

[bitter hollow]

wouldn't worry about it too much
neither of them are gonna be great, but like
it's cassette lol

[bitter hollow]

that's not the physical connection, though

[elder coyote]

Well, I don't know if I would need the headphone/mic to single 3.5mm splitter. I could maybe go straight:

rca output -> rca to 3.5mm -> apple dongle

[gray matrix]

Ring/tip on 3.5mm connectors are trash and way too flimsy. They shouldn't be bad brand new, but they can fail pretty damn quick.

[elder coyote]

i thought cassettes were actually good for audio, though knowing the style of it, and how old they probably are and the equipment used to record them, I can guess the originals are probably pretty bad anyways. I just don't want to make them any worse yk lol

this is the old player i was gonna use lol. Just something I came across that I could use to play tapes. I didn't buy it or anything.

[dry stratus]

did koss make a hair dryer?

[pastel eagle]

Just love making cables for the new PA gear I got.

[quaint torrent]

Anyone know of some earbuds or iems that sound like the cca cra but don’t have terrible build quality?

My max price is 200cad

[molten lotus]

from my understanding the blessings 2 or just swing it and get a pair of salnotes zero for $20 and if those are good enough just save your 180CAD

[dawn hedge]

I need an upgrade/sidegrade alternative to the Philips SHP9500 for fps gaming, music and video editing for $100 usd (can go a little over) with a removable cable. Can anyone recommend me something with music playback quality similar but with better imaging for footstep audio in game? The Philips are struggling with audio positioning in game and the ear cups are falling apart after years of owning them.

I have big-ish ears that barely fit into something like a SENNHEISER HD 559 for example but the SHP9500's are very spacious so anything bigger might be too big.

Please @ any suggestions to me

[zinc rain]

I’ve been running M50x’s for about the last 4-5 Years. What’s my “next step up”?

[tranquil vale]

Possibly beyerdynamics dt 770/990 pro they come in an open or closed back config and different impedance from 32-250 ohm

That's what I usually see people upgrade to

[zinc rain]

I was actually looking at the DT 770 Pro X’s. Good to know I was in the right direction lol.

[tranquil vale]

Yeah those are usually the ones you go to that are still in the affordable range lol, the next step up is a bit more $$$

[zinc rain]

I’m interested in getting into the more enthusiast side of it. I haven’t needed an amp for my headphones yet so…. long way to go lol.

[tranquil vale]

I use my dt 990's with an audio interface so not really needed to look at dedicated DACs But I do music stuff too

[zinc rain]

I like listening to music and playing video games lmfao

What’re the main differences between the 770s and the 990s other than open vs closed back?

[tranquil vale]

only difference is that one model is closed-back and the other is open-back. Gives a very different characteristic to the sound when you've got them open

[zinc rain]

Any advantage or disadvantage to the difference impedance versions?

[molten lotus]

Open back is generally considered far superior to the closed back models, especially it seems when it comes to Beyerdynamic. Almost everyone here will tell you that DT880 > any other of Beyerdynamic's offerings.

I have DT880's and I much prefer my HiFiman HE400SE over them....

[dry stratus]

880 > 990 > 770 personally
but 990 is just 880 but with more severe issues so it still makes the least sense out of the three

[molten lotus]

The Mt 8Khz

there has to be something wierd about the Beyerdynamic factory and engineering center that just makes that 8Khz spike seem reasonable there, or maybe someone years ago shaved that frequency out of all of their tests and no one has caught it yet.

I mean it eq's fine and switching the cup foam out also helps without eq

But DAMn that spike sure is SPICY fresh out of the box

[dry stratus]

Nah, beyer just old peeps

[zinc rain]

Do the DT880’s come in any other impedance other than 250 Ohm?

[vast ferry]

What's the best bang for the buck microhphone under 100 usd

[zinc rain]

The AT2020USB dropped to like $64 USD. I paid $130 USD 8 months ago. It’s pretty damn good imo, especially for $64.

[vast ferry]

Is there a microphone arm that is good

Or are all microphone arms good?

[zinc rain]

Don’t have any experience there myself. I use the included stand on my desk lol.

I’d imagine most are fine as long as they fit/mount to your desk properly

[vast ferry]

Ok

[zinc rain]

@vast ferry I can send you a random clip I have on hand of what the AT2020USB sounds like

[vast ferry]

Actually I was looking for a dynamic mic not a condenser mic

[vast ferry]

Sure

It doesn't show price or ordering button?

[zinc rain]

Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone, With Built-In Headphone Jack & Volume Control, Perfect for Content Creators (Black) https://a.co/d/an1pvPJ

Forgot to mention Amazon, lol

[vast ferry]

Is there a budget dynamic mic I should get?

Same budget?

[zinc rain]

Not sure tbh, don’t have a whole lot of experience with various different types of mics

[vast ferry]

Ok

[tepid torrent]

At $100 there really arent any good options unless you go second hand, or you stretch to 150 as I believe the sennheiser HD560s is at that price , at below that price, koss ksc75 is all you have untill the 200ish dollar range

[tender frost]

Do people still recommend the EMU Teak for a $500 bass cannon? And, does it have good dynamics?

[molten lotus]

I have te 250ohm versions they aren't that hard to drive I could power them well off a FiiO K3 running off my smart phone.

the theory is thinner wire is higher ohm meaning more responsive drivers (less mass to change directions) don't know how that pans out in practice. but that's the theory.

[molten lotus]

HE400SE

[molten lotus]

HE400SE are $110 and really really really solid at that price

[zinc rain]

Sounds good. I’m just looking for a decent upgrade over the M50x’s I’ve been running for years now. I watched a review of the DT 770 Pros and they compared them to the M50x and they said they’re much better, I just wanna make sure I’m not dumping money for a barely noticeable upgrade lol.

I’m not entirely opposed to open backs, I just don’t have experience with them at all. My only concern is that I have roommates and often have a significant amount of background noise, and with that in mind I wanna stick to closed backs.

I’m specifically looking at the 32 Ohm variant of the DT 770s simply to make sure I wouldn’t need an amp to drive them. Not really looking to spend too much total. Ideally <$175-200 USD.

[tender frost]

You can drive the 250 ohm version without an amp

It would be better to look at the sensitivity rating of the headphone rather than the impedance to make a judgement on if it needs an amp or not

[molten lotus]

I have 2 pairs of open back headphones the HE400SE and the DT880, I upgraded from a pair of Astro A40's and either is a MASSIVE improvement over those.

Keep in mind that I have 2 children and a lego table behind my gaming rig and a wife that likes watching sitcoms. Open back has never been an issue to me. Noise bleed is there, but My headphones are by far the loudest thing in the room to me. (I do have to be careful what music I listen to with my children in the room)

the benefit to Open back is sound stage and directionality

you get a much wider FEEL for where the sound is coming from in games.

[zinc rain]

As far as that goes, when I speak of an upgrade, these would be 80% gaming, 20% just listening to music

[zinc rain]

Interesting. I’ll keep that in mind.

[molten lotus]

but that being said pro gamers are all wearing earbuds under white noise generating sound isolation earcups

but there is also the case that a well tuned close back will have much punchier FEEL to the base from the nature of them being closed

[tender frost]

(also afaik the 880 is recommended much more often over the 770)

[unique wind]

i don’t think the 770 is worth buying

but if you’re dead set on it the 80 ohm version is better

[molten lotus]

But the cable is not detatchable

[zinc rain]

My USB mic has an audio input that can take my M50x’s to a significantly higher volume than my onboard audio off my mobo. I have no idea if that would help or not though. I can’t find any spec of the “output” power of the audio out on the mic.

[molten lotus]

are there any beyerdynamic headphones with detachable cables

[unique wind]

their more expensive models have detachable cables

[zinc rain]

I just want a significant upgrade without worrying if I can even run them to their fullest potential 😅

[unique wind]

their baseline 770/880/990 do not because they’re 30+ year old designs that have never been retooled

[tender frost]

I mean, that means it has an amplifier built in, and that doesn't really change anything, you could run the 250 ohm version off your motherboard just fine because of its sensitivity rating

[molten lotus]

but don't the DT880's come in rated better than any of their "more expensive" models?

[tender frost]

(and also, more loud doesn't not mean more good, always nice to keep that in mind)

[zinc rain]

In that case I’m interested in the 880s over the 770s.

[unique wind]

usually yes

[zinc rain]

Very true.

[tender frost]

And naturally, more expensive is not more good

[unique wind]

the dt880 has the most "normal" frequency response tuning

[molten lotus]

all this being said I prefer Hifiman HE400se over the DT880 250ohm

[unique wind]

it's a little weird in the midrange but its treble is a lot better than the 770 or 990

[zinc rain]

DT880 “Premium” vs DT880 “Pro”s?

[unique wind]

the dt880 pro 250ohm is the version you should look for

the premium model has less headband clamping force and a straight cable instead of a coiled one, but otherwise sounds the same and costs more money

[zinc rain]

Premium is actually cheaper on Amazon lol

At least atm

[unique wind]

interesting

[molten lotus]

I like the straight cable.

[unique wind]

oh i cant even find the regular dt 880 pro 250ohm listing on amazon

i think it's sold out

[zinc rain]

Funnily enough I’m super picky about the color of my peripherals, and only the grey ones are cheaper 😅

[molten lotus]

HE400se for comparison

[zinc rain]

beyerdynamic Dt 880 250 Ohm Pro Semi-Open Studio Headphones Black (Limited Edition) https://a.co/d/djKuL6D ?

[molten lotus]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z2SK5C4?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_k0_1_7&amp=&crid=2C4HT8JSAQ9OX&amp=&sprefix=he400se

[unique wind]

yeah i wouldnt pay $200 for those

they're $150 headphones at best

[zinc rain]

I wish I knew someone irl that had these so I could actually try them lol

[molten lotus]

either would be something you would enjoy

[unique wind]

maybe im in the minority but i dont really enjoy the he400se

[molten lotus]

they have a very tight sound.

[unique wind]

the stock earpad has an annoying fabric on the part that touches your ear, the upper midrange dip is noticeable, and its upper treble is a little harsh

to me anyway, it's different for everyone

[molten lotus]

I have an eq for that

[unique wind]

that would help a lot

[zinc rain]

I will never understand why the color of a product changes the price lmfao

[unique wind]

i recommend the sennheiser hd560s as a starter audiophile headphone that's easy to power

but if you're set on beyerdynamic then dt880 250ohm

[molten lotus]

for the HE400se

[unique wind]

i tried corrective eq myself but i didnt boost around 100hz because it's already linear

i filled in the 1-2k dip and gave it a 5db boost under 50hz and that helped, but theyre still just okay

[molten lotus]

I think that's there to clean up the transition into midrange

[zinc rain]

I’m not dead set on Beyerdynamic, they’ve just come up more than anything else during my research.

[molten lotus]

for $110 in a world of $4k endgames can you complain about the cost to performance?

[unique wind]

yeah unfortunately audiotechnica and beyerdynamic somehow ended up being the two most talked about brands even though they each only have like 2 good headphones total

it's like how cherry mx blue keyboards are so popular even though most keyboard enthusiasts hate those switches

[zinc rain]

Like I said, I’ve been running the M50x’s straight out the box since like 2018/19 and have been really happy with them, I’m just looking for an upgrade

[molten lotus]

and here I am on razer linear

[zinc rain]

I’ve got adult money now and wanna treat myself, but I’m so frugal lmfao

[unique wind]

linear gang

what are you looking for in an upgrade?

[molten lotus]

if you wanna treat yourself I keep hearing good things about Hifiman Edition XS but those clock in at $500

[zinc rain]

Well, that’s really what I’m figuring out tbh. I’m not knowledgeable enough to know what I’m looking for yet I guess lol

[zinc rain]

Also, linear gang lmfao.

I’ve actually got the Bluetooth version of the M50x’s, but in the last couple years have solely used them wired on my desktop. I’d really like to replace them as my desktop set, and keep the M50x’s for traveling and whatnot.

I just have no clue what I’m doing when it comes to the power needed to drive certain headphones, why some need amps and some don’t, etc..

Like I know impedance doesn’t tell the full story but it’s a good guideline no? I also have no idea what my mic amp or onboard audio puts out in terms of power so

[unique wind]

gotta look at sensitivity as well as impedance

sensitivity determines how much wattage is needed, impedance determines how much wattage your amp will be able to provide

[molten lotus]

Zen Stack

that's the answer to everything

zen stack

[zinc rain]

explain it like I’m 5

[unique wind]

.

[molten lotus]

Ok

I can do this

so Sensitivity is how efficient the headphones are

so for x power you get x sound

[zinc rain]

How would I figure out what my current hardware is capable of?

[unique wind]

you said you were using the output on your microphone right

it may not be possible to determine how much power that has

[molten lotus]

unless you have an external dac/amp you don't really

[unique wind]

but you can get an amp for $100 that will be able to power 99% of headphones

[molten lotus]

go with a zen

[zinc rain]

Currently, no. Just running straight off my mobo cause the extra “umf” off the mic output isn’t necessary. I’m just saying that’s an option if I get some headphones that require that extra power.

[molten lotus]

that's twice that much but there isn't any real bad press over the ifi zen system

[unique wind]

i think if you don't want to buy an amplifier right now then the sennheiser hd560s is the best option because it's very efficient

it also has the most "normal" tuning in its price range

[zinc rain]

I’m looking at the product page atm and they seem very appealing to me

Description says they can be run off of “mobile devices” so lmfao

It’s so hard describing what I want in an “upgrade” when the best thing I’ve heard is M50x’s lmfao

[unique wind]

it's hard to know what you mean by upgrade too because a lot of people assume more bass = more better

[zinc rain]

I like bass, but when it’s supposed to be there. I don’t like “artificial” bass like out of most consumer grade headphones.

[unique wind]

if that's true then the 560s is a huge upgrade over the m50x

[zinc rain]

I listen to a lot of metal music so I enjoy hearing the thump of the bass drum, but I don’t like when it’s overwhelming to the point it drowns out the rest of the music.

I really enjoy clean, level, and wide sounding… sound lol

I thought the M50x were pretty wide but apparently they’re not at all 💀

[unique wind]

sounds like you want open back headphones then which is good because theyre technically better

[zinc rain]

I’m just scared with open backs with the amount of consistent background noise I have

[unique wind]

is the noise loud

[molten lotus]

bro I have children

and open backs

and play tac shooters

[zinc rain]

It’s mainly another person in the room gaming/doing whatever. I’m in a college dorm with a roommate.

[molten lotus]

unless it's a rave going on

not gonna be an issue

[zinc rain]

Noted.

[unique wind]

background noise will still be shushed a good bit, theyre not completely open sounding

[molten lotus]

your roomate might find it annoying

[unique wind]

theyll be able to tell there's noise coming out of your headphones but they wont be able to understand the words coming out unless theyre breathing down your neck

[zinc rain]

I gotcha. Still wish there were more semi-open back options lol

I’m probably gonna give the HD560s a shot with some more research

[unique wind]

if you end up wanting closed back headphones the AKG k371 are pretty good

semi open the only option i know if is the beyer dt880

moderately open the sennheiser hd560s
wide open the hifiman he400se, but these need more power than a motherboard or microphone can output

they also have the least amount of bass so they might sound kinda boring to you coming from the m50xbt

[zinc rain]

If all else fails and I’m not happy with the bass response I can just bump the low end in EQ lmao

[unique wind]

sometimes you can do that if you know how to do EQ properly but with a lot of headphones when you raise the bass slider they start to sound like ass

[zinc rain]

Fair

[molten lotus]

unfortunately for sub bass and high frequency sometimes that's limited by the engineering of the headphones

[unique wind]

if this is true then the sennheiser hd560s has the most accurate bass

[zinc rain]

I’ll look into it. Right now my top 3 picks are:

1. HD560S
2. DT880 Pro
3. DT770 Pro

The HD560S are looking good to me so far

[zinc rain]

I do like some bass chonkiness sometimes but 🤷‍♂️ that’s what the M50x’s will be for 😂

[unique wind]

i own the dt770 and i dont recommend them, but if you get them anyway then get the 80ohm version

the 80ohm and 250ohm versions are tuned very differently and the 250 is just straight up bad

[zinc rain]

Gotcha.

Gonna look at some reviews for the HD560S and if I like what I hear, then I’ll probably pull the trigger on them.

Thanks for your help

[unique wind]

alright man take care

[molten lotus]

so the 250ohm 880 are the best verson and the 250ohm 770 are the worst version how'd they fuck that up?

[unique wind]

i think the 600ohm dt880 are the favorites but i dont know why the 770 250ohm is tuned so weirdly

beyerdynamic has made many very questionable decisions

audiotechnica is worse though, their engineers dont have human ears

[molten lotus]

kinda like razer and their mice, best sensor on the planet almost period and some of the best switches as well and.....the rest of the mouse seems designed to make those feel like meh

I guess you could also say the same about LG and monitors

[unique wind]

LG's display division annoys me

[molten lotus]

everyone buys their panels from LG but the lg version of the same panel is worse

literally best panels on the planet

but the lg monitor is the worst iteration of said panel

you'd be better off going for an AOpen version of an LG panel

[unique wind]

the only panels made by LG that i like are their w-oleds

their premium LCD tvs are all IPS panels and look terrible for their price

their nano ips gaming monitor panels have very poor contrast too

but have wide color gamuts and viewing angles, and to some people that tradeoff is worth it but not me

[livid rapids]

i need a 10/10 portable speaker

sound quality should be excellent

and frequencies should go down as low as atlest 30hz

[unique wind]

youll have to lower your expectations or youll be paying 4 figures

[livid rapids]

in dollars?

[unique wind]

yeah

[livid rapids]

holy

[unique wind]

30hz is hard to achieve at all with speakers/subwoofers and to get that from a tiny portable speaker requires a shit load of clean power

which is expensive and it wont have good battery life anyway

[livid rapids]

anything close

cuz man we need that bass

[unique wind]

i havent researched them enough to give you a confident recommendation

[molten lotus]

600ohm is better

issue is its actually pretty difficult to get it loud

[unique wind]

dont some people speaker tap it

[lean grove]

JBL partybox 🥴

[molten lotus]

i mean

if you have a magni 3+ you can drive it

but like

with a zen air dac and other general entry level stuff you will have difficult time

[unique wind]

if you consider a speaker the size of a 5th grader as portable sure

[lean grove]

It's got a carrying handle.

[nimble dirge]

My laptop speakers aren't playing any sound
There has been no physical impact on them, and I was just (like I do usually) plugged in my wired headphones through a USB controller today

I have tried multiple troubleshooting options and nothing seems to solve the problem on my end

[lean grove]

And wheels

[molten lotus]

my mission 720 are portable

as long as you have a forklift

[nimble dirge]

Anybody helping this sad man?

[molten lotus]

fiddle with the cables

make sure you insert the jacks 3.5 all the way through

and that no cable is broken

[nimble dirge]

it's an inbuilt speaker, there are no cables

[unique wind]

i drilled a handle into my magnat transpuls 1500 and theyre portable now

[nimble dirge]

I am referring to the laptop speaker @molten lotus

[unique wind]

there are cables that connect the speakers to the motherboard inside the laptop case itself

[molten lotus]

driver issue

big chance

[unique wind]

open it and unplug and replug them

if that doesnt do anything theyre probably damaged

unless the connection to the board is soldered, that would suck

[nimble dirge]

You're asking me to open the laptop? 😂

[unique wind]

yes?

[nimble dirge]

checked the drivers on the site

[unique wind]

whats funny about that

[molten lotus]

dude laptop

open

[nimble dirge]

I carried out a driver test on the site

[molten lotus]

😂

check the device manager

dualboot your pc to make sure it isn't a windows issue

[nimble dirge]

are you telling me to open too, or talking to michael

[molten lotus]

i was taunting you

[nimble dirge]

what's dual boot? I have restarted like 3 times already

[molten lotus]

its installing two operating system by partitioning

[unique wind]

he was joking about how you acted like opening a laptop is rocket science

[molten lotus]

i was serious about the dualboot part

install a new windows to see if they work

if they do its software

if they don't it's hardware

[echo moat]

So I have a problem with my PC, whenever I have mic plugged in, the mic doesnt catch any of my voice

But instead it could catch loud sound that I play on youtube

[nimble dirge]

That and the fiddling with the cable part, both seem to be dangerous

I have never tried dualboot

Although I have opened laptops, I have never fiddled with the cables

[molten lotus]

with a computer proficiency level like this you will not be able to solve anything

we can't help you

[lean grove]

Have you tried turning it off and on again

[molten lotus]

do you have anything like voicemeeter, virtual cable or stereo mix

[echo moat]

I've tried most of the basic fix and tried plugging in the mic on another device, it work there so I'm sure the problem in my PC

[echo moat]

Does Logitech G hub count? Its the headset software

[molten lotus]

no

[nimble dirge]

4 times now

oh sorry, it wasn't for me

[nimble dirge]

the problem lies that this isn't my laptop

with my PC, I wouldn't flinch

I don't know where the speaker cable in a laptop is

[molten lotus]

around the speaker i presume

[nimble dirge]

could you link me up to the dualboot and the cable you guys are referring to

[echo moat]

Then no, I dont think I have other software that fiddle with that

[molten lotus]

google is your friend

[livid rapids]

when are jbl tour m2 releasing

[molten lotus]

google how to dualboot windows

[molten lotus]

don't know, don't care, jbl can't make good headphones

[livid rapids]

you're wrong

jbl is the king in headphones

none of the products sound bad

[molten lotus]

they are like

a meme

their only item that sound not bad is the tune 710

[livid rapids]

ive had 2 headphones that are the most budget ones ever and sound great

[molten lotus]

that talks more about your standards than it does of the items

[livid rapids]

jbl gives better value for money

change my mind

[molten lotus]

that statement requires a budget

[livid rapids]

not really

[molten lotus]

alright

r70x is a headphone better than any headphone jbl has ever made

[plush hedge]

I have the JBL 760NC and I think they sound good but that's subjective

Only good when ANC is on too

Sounds muddy without

[molten lotus]

akg k361 is a headphone better than any item jbl has ever made

cloud 2 is a better item than every item jbl has ever made except for tune 710

[livid rapids]

ive had 350BT and 450BT, for the price, they are excellent

[molten lotus]

what a coincidence

my jbl 450bt has been aging for several years in our tool cupboard

[livid rapids]

and why are xm5s so costly rn, why arent there any discounts

[nimble dirge]

To be honest, I have just used the Jabra Evolve and it sounds amazing to me
I have to try out other products though

[molten lotus]

its one of the worst items I have ever owned

let me see if I can find it

[livid rapids]

well, mine lasted 2 years

then the battery just gave up

[molten lotus]

its a bad item

don't be sad

[livid rapids]

i need some good portable speakers man

sound quality is what i need

[molten lotus]

I passed my 450bt to my dad

he didn't even want to use them

[livid rapids]

they look cheap and light

ngl

but offer good value imo

[molten lotus]

nah

20$ ciems sound better

but they are wired

but between decent wired sound and wireless bad sound id pick the prior

[echo moat]

Testing microphone audio through discord and logi g hub, it only show reaction to the sound inside my PC instead what my mic catch.

[unique wind]

open the windows sound control panel, go to the input tab, and make sure that your microphone is set as the default input device

if it isn't then right click it and set it as default

after you do that open the discord sound settings and make sure the microphone is set as the input device there too

[echo moat]

I've done it, only the logitech mic that's enabled in there

But the bar never moved when I speak

[molten lotus]

le 450bt

thanks for reminding me of these

i can dissect them to have bluetooth receivers

[unique wind]

those look pretty uncomfortable

[molten lotus]

they are

on ears

so

after an hour or two they start crushing your ears

[livid rapids]

yes

[echo moat]

The discord mic testing bar moved when it hear sound inside the computer, but the one in this setting never moved at all.
https://prnt.sc/k6w7VuSUkrDj

[livid rapids]

they fall off my head

[molten lotus]

oh

pretty sure this is adjustable from the g hub

[livid rapids]

im currently using beats studio 3

they are alright

nothing special

200$ worth it?

[molten lotus]

not imo

id rather get n700nc m2

a lot better anc and better sound in general

[livid rapids]

beats is just dead at this point

i lowkey regret buying them

[molten lotus]

i mean

yeah

[livid rapids]

ive got senhiser 450se is great but a bit uncomfortable

the ear cups are of a weird shape

[molten lotus]

i wouldn't get wireless sennheisers

[echo moat]

I've allowed the app and desktop app to access my microphone, and reinstalling the microphone driver, no dice.

[livid rapids]

i just need a great portable speaker, you got any idea?

and whats you're say with bang and olufsen

they are the apple of audio imo

[molten lotus]

I honestly don't know about portable speakers

they are significantly outclassed by headphones and regular speakers in every instance

I rarely need something like that so I never looked into them

[livid rapids]

well, while on a tour or partying with friends on the beach, you need it

[molten lotus]

we generally hang around in public places with music already playing so we don't really need it

[livid rapids]

where you're from?

[molten lotus]

istanbul

[livid rapids]

we are introverts

[dry stratus]

tfw portable speakers are basically all made to be as loud as possible, not actually good

[molten lotus]

well you can't blame them

[dry stratus]

they all targeted at party people

[molten lotus]

you can't make an omnidirectional speaker sound any good

since its almost like music was not designed to run on mono

[dry stratus]

I mean, it would help if they tried to get some quality out of it

not just as loud and bloated as possible with a shit ton of grain

[molten lotus]

i can't say i think they try to make it sound good but

[livid rapids]

wtf is this

[molten lotus]

i sure as hell don't think its a matter of trying

[nimble dirge]

@molten lotus Which country are you from?

[molten lotus]

probably something that sounds like shit

[dry stratus]

furniture first, speaker second

[molten lotus]

this