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molten lotus
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do this @placid geyser

placid geyser
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then a reboot?

molten lotus
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yes

dapper berry
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upgrade from what? the 990s?

molten lotus
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yes

dapper berry
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I have my eyes set to 990s pretty much

molten lotus
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why

candid folio
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dt880s are the the work of the dt770s and dt990s combined im pretty sure

molten lotus
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it is objectively worse than the dt880

dapper berry
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and most people recommend an amp cause of 250 ohms

molten lotus
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no they don't

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ohms don't mean anything meaningful

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not to driving headphones anyways

dapper berry
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im not saying theyre worse lol

molten lotus
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oh I don't think you are saying that

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but I am very hardly proclaiming that the dt990 are dt880 but directly worse

dapper berry
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im looking at open backs

molten lotus
candid folio
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out of intrest, howcome i dont see any issues when im running the bass at above 0 db

placid geyser
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still does not work

molten lotus
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then something is wrong

molten lotus
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subtle but not very noticeable in lower levels

candid folio
dapper berry
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dt770 is prolly in line with my current cloud IIs

molten lotus
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the loudest and the quietest sound the headphones can make

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the more you eq up, the more it closes down

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which you wouldn't want

molten lotus
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honestly

candid folio
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ah, which is why you want to keep it below 0db?

molten lotus
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yeah

placid geyser
candid folio
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alright thanks

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im off to sleep now

molten lotus
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who knows, can you send a screenshot of both of your eq apo config files

candid folio
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have a great evening yall, and thanks for the help

dapper berry
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how would my B550's realtek fare with the 990s?

molten lotus
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glad to help

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by B550 do you mean your motherboard type

dapper berry
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yea the b550 mobo

molten lotus
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first of all, motherboard name's or types do not say anything about the performance of the dac/amp itself

dapper berry
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it has a realtek audio

molten lotus
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secondly, high ohm does not mean difficult to drive

molten lotus
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there is no way to tell its performance apart from measuring the particular sound card or listening to it

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anyways

dapper berry
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well are onboard realtek chips good enough these days

placid geyser
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what else you needa ss of?

molten lotus
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they are alright

dapper berry
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or do I need an AMP

molten lotus
molten lotus
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which is actually tough to drive

dapper berry
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na, was looking at 250s

molten lotus
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though take my word for it mate, you will regret getting the dt990 over the dt880

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it is a direct downgrade

dapper berry
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Im looking at openbacks

placid geyser
molten lotus
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dt990 is dt880 but with unnecessary midbass

dapper berry
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pretty sure I saw somewhere they were closed

molten lotus
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they aren't

candid folio
molten lotus
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this will sound dumb but are you sure you are using the focusrite lmao

placid geyser
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i did have another eq app installed but i closed it

dapper berry
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semiopen

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so like inbeetween

placid geyser
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maybe that still has a effect, which i doubt since in windows i selected my speakers from focusrite

molten lotus
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you get all benefits of open

placid geyser
molten lotus
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its just a smaller surface area that is open

dapper berry
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Ill look into them as well

molten lotus
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if this matters to you, may as well get he400se which is a lot more open than the dt990

candid folio
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just buy some speakers and glue them to a headband

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that is just open

molten lotus
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if its ported speakers

dapper berry
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now youre talking

molten lotus
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akg already did this

placid geyser
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i'll just switch back to fxsound

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all this fussle

dapper berry
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was looking at m50xs before

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same price range as dt990s

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but switched over to openbacks

molten lotus
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those are bad

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just directly bad

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they are worse than gaming headsets

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they are alright for mixing maybe

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anyways gotta go

dapper berry
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thanks

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ill look into 990s or 880s

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so, I dont need an Amp

molten lotus
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nah

placid geyser
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yeah and enabling fxsound and changing the eq makes a immediate difference

molten lotus
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if you want to ensure standard levels of audio quality you can get an apple dongle usb c to 3.5 adapter

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and a usb c to usb a adapter if you don't have one of those

dapper berry
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standard 880s or 880s pro? pros are 20€ more expensive

lean grove
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If you think a snug fit is worth the €20 go for it

dapper berry
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are just 880s the premium ones?

lean grove
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Yeah

dapper berry
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i dont see premiums, just 880 and 880 pro (20€ more

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gotcha

lean grove
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Beyerdynamic changed the name.

dapper berry
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might get these over the 990s

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same price

lean grove
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You probably should.

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990s are not nearly as well tuned.

dapper berry
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also the black ones?

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silver ones look cheaper

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just the way they look, ik they're the same

tranquil spindle
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Does anyone know why the subwoofer sounds like this

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It has bass but it sounds like the speaker come is hitting something

leaden cloak
tranquil spindle
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It’s not loud though

modern blaze
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well, got my iems

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pretty decent

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(fiio fd5)

summer flicker
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if it continues, try swapping to a different source entirely, your phone or something

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if it continues, maybe it's time for an rma

steady ether
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is a JBL 760 NC good?

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or should I save a buck and go for JBL 710?

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both seem good and over ear

summer flicker
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if these graphs are accurate, then yeah, that's actually pretty solid

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as far as I can tell the 710 is just the 760 with less bass

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that is a pretty darn agressive amount of bass

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so it's really up to preference

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you could also look at the akg n700nc m2 which is very comparable to these in sound quality

full cape
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So, my headphones just broke. i currently have the Logitech G432 Wired. tho i dont want the wire anymore. im looking for a good wireless alternative. My budget is up to 150€ for the headphones. i got a dedicated microphone already, so i dont necessarily need a full headset. any recommendations?

steady ether
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but thanks, I'm thinking this is it

summer flicker
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for a wireless headset with low latency

nova wagon
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penrose is like 299 usd no?

full cape
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ye

summer flicker
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oh sorry I didn't see the price there

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or ur budget that is

full cape
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its not about latency too. i just need good sounding headphones for about 150€

summer flicker
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oh okay so you don't need it for gaming at all?

full cape
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i do game, but not really much

nova wagon
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n700nc m2
tune 710bt i guess?

summer flicker
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right. thing is Bluetooth is normally quite bad for gaming. like it's noticeably laggy

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but those are good sound quality wise

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will be the best for music

nova wagon
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cloud ii wirelss would have superior latency
but im pretty sure you cant detact the mic to make it a headphone

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oh nvm, you can detact the mic

full cape
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hmm. i was thinking on going steelseries arctis 7+ . tho im not sure about the sound quality

summer flicker
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not good

full cape
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i guessed so

nova wagon
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it has a lot of midbass

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things will be muddy

full cape
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well, i do like the design tho xD

tall sleet
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Why do you want wireless? 😃

full cape
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but its really not about how they look. i need them to sound good

summer flicker
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iirc cloud ii has some warmbright going on too. midbass, cavernous upper mids, but bright

full cape
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Cuz i hate having a 5m AUX cable running to my pc

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my PC aint next to my desk. thats why theres such a long cable

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and i cant put it next to me. not enough space

summer flicker
full cape
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tho tbh, i wouldnt use those when i go out as example lol

summer flicker
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nicest gaming headset I've seen is the clouds. because they look like an actual headphone and don't try to overplay themselves.

nova wagon
summer flicker
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yeh fair

tall sleet
# full cape Cuz i hate having a 5m AUX cable running to my pc

Hmmm, well. I personally use audio technica (M50x and M40x). Great sounding (especially the M50x). The M50x comes with cables in various lengths, so the short cable could be a alternative to the wireless if cable length is your primary reason. 😄

full cape
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u meant this with cloud II?

nova wagon
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yep

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its more or less a rebranded takstar pro 80

full cape
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ah ok

nova wagon
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so alright tuning and looks alright as well

full cape
summer flicker
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actually the Penrose and it's bigger brother is probably the best looking gaming headset.

full cape
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yeah, ima look at the cloud II. my local tech store should have them in stock. thx guys

summer flicker
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any time

summer flicker
summer flicker
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but if you have to be wireless at all times skip em

full cape
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jo. thx

weak loom
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are the Fisher ST-512 still good to this day with the right amp? they are from the 1960's

dry stratus
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I would imagine it would be garbage with how old the components would have to be

summer flicker
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vintage meming isn't worth it 99% of the time

lyric ice
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Guys would you say the k712 headset better than the HD6xx for gaming?

summer flicker
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no

lyric ice
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I use the HD6xx as its my only headset for music and gaming

summer flicker
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k712 is worse at both

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I own both those headphones currently

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don't ask me why

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lol

dry stratus
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Not that hard to imagine a reason

lyric ice
dry stratus
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Much different sound signature, which may or may not work nicer with some music

summer flicker
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I've just been in the hobby for way too long, it wasn't a conscious decision to own both

dry stratus
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Just buy he6 or smth

summer flicker
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k712 I've had forever. the 6xx I've had for like 4 years st this point I think??? idk my sense of time is scuffed

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too old

summer flicker
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a good tube amp

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just my prefs. both are great

lyric ice
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I have k5 pro as the amp. Don't know if the tube would make a difference as i have never tried

dry stratus
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Faster music I hate 6x0 on tho

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Sounds like it just shits itself

summer flicker
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yeah you hit the nail on the head. 6x0 series has unparalleled timbral and tonal qualities making it excellent for acoustic and vocal representation. he6 slams like a motherfucker so it's really good for very energetic stuff

lyric ice
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Would a tube amp really make a difference over the one I'm using?

summer flicker
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which amp are you using?

lyric ice
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Fiio k5 pro

summer flicker
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definitely

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generally the way I like to think about source gear is they'll rarely if ever change your mind about a headphone. but they will enhance your experience with one

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the only time I've genuinely had that experience is with the hd800

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where at first I just straight up did not like it, but it took one specific source chain to completely change my mind on that

lyric ice
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Wdym by took one specific source chain?

summer flicker
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but hd800 is a total anomaly in this regard. that is one of the most resolving, source transparent headphones ever

lyric ice
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Im tempted to replace my headset with the 800. I've only heard good things about it

summer flicker
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in my case it would be volumio > streamer > dac > amp

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some people add a preamp in there, most people don't use a preamp or a streamer

lyric ice
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I only use the amp i have

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Some people here recommend me not to use a dac because mine is already an amp + dac

summer flicker
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yeah that's a dac/amp, it handles both

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normally all in one solutions compromise on everything for the sake of being all in one

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so I'm not a fan

summer flicker
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but think about the redundancy of owning multiple headphones before you do any of that.

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none of this is worth it to most people

lyric ice
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I already have 3 right now

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Though 2 of them wireless for traveling

summer flicker
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yeah I mean specifically In the audiophile space

lyric ice
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For my current set up is it better for me to replace my amp and get a proper amp and dac and whatever needed to compliment the hd6xx or get a better headset to use with my amp?

weak loom
dry stratus
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Doesn’t matter

lyric ice
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What should a proper source chain be? Tidal or game for example > dac > amp > headset?

summer flicker
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I would also avoid Tidal. they have some really bad masters on there under the guise of being "better than lossless" which is nonsense.

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Goldensound has a good video on it

summer flicker
# lyric ice For my current set up is it better for me to replace my amp and get a proper amp...

I would personally focus around getting better source gear but that's because I already know what I like. it's really hard for me to make that judgement for you. my honest recommendation is keep an open mind, talk to people in the hobby that you feel are reliable and get their opinions, listen to their reasoning and what they listen for, and try to try headphones and gear before you pay for them. I can't tell you that any of this is a good idea for you because it most likely isn't. and that's not out of some elitism or gatekeeping. the truth is just that people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to "upgrades" and just the amount of improvement they'll see from 100 dollar to thousands.

lyric ice
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Thats why im here asking. Unfortunately we dont a place here to to sell amps or dacs and i have to get everything online. And I've tried to find audiophiles here where I live but I cant find any

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I've met few people who work in media stations like tv channels and radio stations but their knowledge is basically like mine 😅

summer flicker
molten lotus
lyric ice
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Btw what platform can stream music better than tidal that can work worldwide?

molten lotus
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unsure

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at least about the word wide part

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You shouldn't care too much about that anyways

summer flicker
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uhh same. I'm in Canada. best all rounder for me is Deezer. I would use apple music if they had a good desktop app for android

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I mean windows

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not android

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they have a great phone app

molten lotus
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Doesn't deezer not have an exclusive output device

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I considered switching to it

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But since it outputted through windows so every lossless track was getting resampled to windows defaults

lyric ice
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Deezer works here so i'll try it for a month

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Its also cheaper

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10$ less than tidal which is cool

molten lotus
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If they haven't changed the way it works in windows its literally not different from spotify

lyric ice
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Im trying it on my phone with a trail. Will test it on my pc when i get back home

molten lotus
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its not something you can tell apart with testing

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not with hd6xx anyways

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from the sounds of it you have this impression that lossless is a lot better than lossy

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it is better on an incredibly minor level you will likely need to spend tens of minute testing a single track to pick a detail that is different in lossless vs high quality lossy

lyric ice
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Yeah its those minor details that makes a difference. Thats what i got with upgrading from spotify to tidal hifi

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Never understood the concept or anything

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But yeah i couldn't hear a difference with my earphones now and i guess thats why because my earphones are not meant for that high quality

lyric ice
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Btw I found the HD800s for 1250$ new. If that a good offer?

tender frost
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Mid headphones

dry stratus
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New isn’t really worth it unless all you want is wide

unreal grotto
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What boom arm should I get for my k688?

keen swift
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I just bought the pc37x and I have to ship it, so before I do that I want to know if I need the adapter, for this board.

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or can I plug it in? if I can let me know which one cuz I have no idea

summer flicker
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the hd800

dry stratus
summer flicker
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not quite. 800S is a bigger headphone ime

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better*

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weird autocorrect

dry stratus
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I preferred the hd800 over hd800s, and honestly (stock)
Most hd800 at least here come with sdr mod used

summer flicker
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yeah well that would make it ever so slightly better than the 800S

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stock 800 isn't as good

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less bass extension, less upper mids

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more treble

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just more of the things that make the headphone obnoxious basically

fierce stump
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Anyone has recomendation for head phone speaker, i was 3D printing my headphone parts

summer flicker
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a headphone speaker? you mean driver?

fierce stump
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The small speakers inside the headphones

dry stratus
summer flicker
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or are you saying that less upper mids is less obnoxious

nova wagon
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and then theres the 8xx

summer flicker
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lack of upper mids is actually a huge chunk of the reason why headphones can come off so faded/disconnected. it's not a good thing

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it's a huge part of the reason so many planars sound so unnatural. incidentally the ones that do have decent upper mid extensions tend to be the ones that sound much closer to dynamics and having an organic sound

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lcd5 for one

dry stratus
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unless you are one of the minority that actually likes pain or isn't more sensitive to it than other ranges

summer flicker
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this is what most people want. the research is there after all

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the general preference curve is slanted to around like 3db more upper mids than what the 800 typically has

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as seen here

unique wind
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most people want more bass than that if they’re not over the age of 40

molten lotus
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every preference curve I know has recessed mids if not linear

summer flicker
summer flicker
molten lotus
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like which

summer flicker
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like Harman, crins, headphones.com combined, there's a couple other sim blanking the name on. they're all essentially deviations of Harmans target curve which has been thoroughly researched

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it's the curve that Michael just posted there

unique wind
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i wish there were audiophile open back headphones with harman bass instead of linear bass

summer flicker
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I hear you

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I actually don't think I like Harman midbass recess

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but I'm Canadian

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so

unique wind
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i don’t like elevated mid-high bass

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i feel like it makes voices too warm and gives me a slight headache

summer flicker
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I also dont like it. but Harmans is basically a trough

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I can see why that's there though . there's a bit of bleed if you have that much bass

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I imagine it's to curb that

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thanks Canada

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(bass slant according to Harman is disproportionately Canadian)

dry stratus
summer flicker
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I usually try to eq around it

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it's not so bad when you tone down the treble

dry stratus
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if you look at like my favourite headphones, they all fairly similar in balance

summer flicker
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fair

dry stratus
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arya, susvara, ADX5000/HD800, and a bunch more

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bright-neutral with ~2khz dip mostly

molten lotus
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@dry stratus do you prefer the Arya to the Edition XS?

dry stratus
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haven't heard the XS

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closest place too far away

molten lotus
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I just completely rearranged my desk

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I now run triple vertical

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space constraints

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but I think it should be functional

dry stratus
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even if it is worse and like 2400 vs 1600

slim mason
snow mulch
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yoo audio tech i need some help im looking for headphones i can use for xbox(wired) but can also b used for music preferably wireless ((on a budget)

torpid shard
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I was hoping someone could help me with a recommendation for a amp, as i have very little knowlage in this space. I wanted to upgrade from my crappy build in speakers to a good sound system, i have an wife approve budget of 3.5k. I was planning to get the SVS Prime surround set and a PB-1000 PRO, but I have no idea what receiver to get for this setup, as the prices seems to be from 500-10k, I don't need all the latest tech, just an amp that can run the speakers, and may have a little room to grow down the line.

unique wind
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onkyo has several nice sub-$500 receivers

torpid shard
molten lotus
# slim mason cursed

maybe a little cursed but it's functional, one landscape 3 vertical. Great for productivity.

molten lotus
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Anyone know any decent subwoofers that r cheap

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For under my desk

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It dont need 500w or anything

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Just decent bass

unique wind
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kanto sub 6

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sealed 6” woofer that performs pretty well

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$140

molten lotus
unique wind
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damn

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don’t pay that much

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knowing what country you live in would be helpful since it isn’t america

lean grove
# molten lotus Anyone know any decent subwoofers that r cheap

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molten lotus
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Thx

inland bobcat
molten lotus
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See yt ig

lean grove
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Uhhh I wouldn't

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400se isn't much more expensive and doesn't have that terrible headband

weak rapids
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hd600 or 650?

mild summit
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AKG Y600NC WIRELESS or the AKG N700NC M2..which should I buy?

The Y600NC is on sale for 80 bucks (77% discount) but the N700NC M2 is the best Bluetooth headphones for the price and sound quality from what I've heard but would I notice the difference? Mainly using it for music (indoor and outdoor use)

keen swift
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hi, I'm not from the US or EU and I want to buy a sony wf1000xm4 from ebay, but I have never purchaed anything from there and I don't know how to approach it, can you guys help in any way or do you know the wf1000xm4 s on sale somewhere else?

dapper berry
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would E10k be a good amp for DT 880s?

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can't get Schiit stuff easily ...

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it would literally cost twice as much as E10K

lean grove
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No

dapper berry
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any better alternatives?

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in that price range

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I can get an E10K for like 80 Euro

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while I'd need to import a Magni and it would end up costing like 150-160 Euro

lean grove
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Qudelix, smsl, topping.

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It's pick any of those over the e10k

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But. Realistically. You should just try it without an amp

dapper berry
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E10K is literally a Fiio?

lean grove
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And see how you like it I.

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Oops I meant not fiio

dapper berry
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I did, the headphones are kinda quiet

lean grove
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Ah.

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Yeah. Smsl or topping then.

dapper berry
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the onboard Realtek is just too weak

lean grove
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Or ifi

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That's what I meant

dapper berry
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whick SMSL?

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something like a SMSL SA-50?

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nm, thats not a headphone amp

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something like an SH-6?

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yea ...

dapper berry
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Is K5 Pro a good option as well? It's in this Magni price range from above

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which one would be a better option?

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any other alternatives?

molten lotus
summer flicker
dapper berry
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I know magni is best, but hard to find in EU and if you import price doubles ...

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shipping, taxes ...

median frigate
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is it possible to connect my airpods to my pc using wifi?

molten lotus
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no

haughty girder
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It's fine, but not amazing

dapper berry
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K5Pro ESS and Magni are essentially the same price

haughty girder
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what dt880 do you have

dapper berry
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what I wanna do is get an GOXLRMini, a Headphone Amp and an AT2020

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but wont get it all at once

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the 250 ohms

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880s

haughty girder
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Ok.

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they're not particularly hard to drive

dapper berry
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onboard drives them ... OKish

haughty girder
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and they sound fine (and basically the same) on most amps

dapper berry
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they dont sound downright awful, but they are quiet

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and idk how they'd sound when properly powered

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what I mean is, is the lack of provided power affecting performance, or just the volume

haughty girder
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About the same, just volume

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Actually maybe a bit of punch as well given you're on the limit of how much power your output can do

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But dt880 250ohm has a relatively flat impedance curve

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So overall sound should be basically unaffected

dapper berry
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where do I plug them in for most power

haughty girder
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An amp?

dapper berry
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currently got them plugged in the HP jack

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tried the line out as well

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didnt notice much of a difference

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nono

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on PC, right now

haughty girder
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line out shouldn't have any sound

dapper berry
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I definitely got sound out of them thru Line out

haughty girder
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Because it's much higher voltage at very low current

dapper berry
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currently have them plugged in the Headphone jack up front

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they sound the same

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also, how do you connect the Amp to the PC?

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optically? USB? 3.5mm?

haughty girder
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If there's a built in dac then optical or usb

dapper berry
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well, something like a K5 or Magni

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don't both have a DAC?

haughty girder
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for k5 you'd use usb because it's a dac amp combo

dapper berry
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isnt Magni as well?

haughty girder
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Magni is just an amp so you'd use rca

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If you want a matching dac then there's the modi

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But magni is a standalone amp

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schiit has the fulla and hel for dac amp combo units

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but they're just eh

dapper berry
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I don't think I'd need a DAC

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Schiit is not a good option for EU

haughty girder
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you don't need it, but I also don't know how clean your onboard line out is

dapper berry
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just availability wise

haughty girder
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if you're amplifying a dirty signal it's not gonna be a good time

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I'm assuming k5 pro is around 100eur for you?

dapper berry
#

I feel like, all of this taken into account, K5 would be a better option

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no, K5Pro is like 190

haughty girder
#

Hm

dapper berry
#

its all expensive AF in EU

haughty girder
#

that's high

dapper berry
#

Magni would be around there as well

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and I'd need to import

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so, taxes, shipping etc

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110+ shipping and taxes

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it would come up to 190ish

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so I feel like a K5 would be a better option

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as it also has a DAC

haughty girder
#

alternatively... you could get an interface and mic

dapper berry
#

an interface such as a GOXLR Mini?

haughty girder
#

motu m2, audient id4 both have decent headphone outputs

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goxlr mini is a bit if a bruh

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it limits your mic choices heavily and at2020 is eh

dapper berry
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I wouldnt use it as an amp

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I dont need a hell of a mic

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just Discord, Skype, in-game VC

haughty girder
#

Right but at2020 gets outdone by other mics at its price point

dapper berry
#

isnt AT2020 the M50x of the mic world?

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as in its the go to budget option

haughty girder
#

issue with goxlr mini is that it only has 24v phantom power

dapper berry
#

I could get the USB AT2020

unique wind
#

m50x is crap

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the at2020 is fine but it’s a little overpriced

haughty girder
#

At2020 is kinda harsh....

unique wind
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it has a lot of high treble that makes it sound a little too digital

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but it’s fine

dapper berry
#

what would be a good alternative to the 2020?

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I havent looked that much into mics

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as I dont need anything special

haughty girder
#

Neat worker bee and akg p120 are both better options, but assuming you don't have sound treated space you shoule also consider xm8500 + pop filter, se v7, sm57 or maybe an om2

haughty girder
#

You could just use one and let it pull double duty

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For both as a good mic interface and headphone out

dapper berry
#

GOXLR just looks good options wise

haughty girder
#

dynamics are ok

dapper berry
#

AT2020 also has a USB option, so I could go that route

molten lotus
molten lotus
#

It's a meme

modern blaze
iron cipher
#

Heyyoo guys can u help me really quick, i've got like my speaker and when i plug them into my computer they make static noise

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but when it's on my phone there isn't any static noise

molten lotus
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get an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

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and a usb c to a adapter if you don't have any usb c ports

iron cipher
#

me ?

molten lotus
#

yeah

iron cipher
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who told u i've got an apple / usb ports lmfao

unique wind
#

you don’t need to own any other apple products

molten lotus
#

it doesn't matter whether you have an apple

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and you don't have any free usb ports?

iron cipher
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the only usb c i've got on my lian li case is used for my vr headset

molten lotus
iron cipher
#

why do i need that damn apple adapter ?

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i don't get it ?

molten lotus
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so you don't have static

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it is the most cost efficient and versatile solution

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whether you want to heed my advice or not is up to you

iron cipher
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alright i tought there were other fix possible

molten lotus
#

there are mostly hardware solutions to this unfortunately

unique wind
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it gives you a clean audio output for very cheap and lets you avoid your bad motherboard output that has static

iron cipher
#

okay i see yea

molten lotus
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one thing you can try is, if your speakers are powered via socket

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google "how to solve audio ground loop" and do the stuff it tells you to

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and another is separating cables of the speaker from everything else

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separate it from every other cable and electronical device as much as possible

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it may or may not help

iron cipher
molten lotus
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worst case it is a ground loop and cant be solved with an apple dongle

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but that shouldn't happen too often

iron cipher
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i'm trying some fix rn for the ground issue

iron cipher
#

okay so i think it's more than just the jack on my pc

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i've tried on 2 of my 3 screen jack and i've got still the same issue

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i've tried on my usb to dock that is on my pc and still the same

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i've tried the front jack on it still the same

molten lotus
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not surprising any of those are noisy

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knowing your phone has no static

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the odds are you will need a hardware solution like the apple dongle

iron cipher
#

and how about plugin my pc inside a wall socket ? cause my pc is on a power strip

molten lotus
#

you can try

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I don't think it will work

restive rivet
#

If exists, would an Audio Jack KVM Switch degrade the quality of the audio?

molten lotus
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like, something that routes audio?

restive rivet
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Yeah like, I plug my headphones into the switch, and it has x outputs going to various devices. From there, I press a button to switch which device the headphones connect to

molten lotus
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if it is digital there shouldn't be degradation given things aren't too wrong

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analog too

restive rivet
#

Gotcha. So quality should remain the same even with a kvm switch

molten lotus
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if it has an attenuator, like a volume dial, it may affect the audio a bit

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the nobaudio switch is a good example of something that works well and has an attenuator

restive rivet
#

Interesting. What is an attenuator?

molten lotus
#

in context, basically a knob with resistors on it

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whenever you spin the knob, different resistor with different resistance is put into the circuit

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making you adjust audio levels

haughty girder
#

They're far better

molten lotus
#

i recommend mpm1000u

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but xm8500 is a better pick for most people

haughty girder
#

the wave mics are lewitt mics....

molten lotus
#

solely because of the pickup pattern

haughty girder
#

yea^

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atr2100x is solid too

molten lotus
#

no idea about that one

haughty girder
#

I'm not a fan of the q2u tho

haughty girder
dapper berry
#

I mean, none of the 3 is tbh ... I'll just get all of it as I find deals or something

white gate
#

"Cheesecake is a basic b***h food" - Crinacle 2023

cobalt sparrow
#

when

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why

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how

white gate
#

We were talking about what foods to get whilst in New York. I mentioned cheesecake and he said that XD

haughty moon
#

Poutine maybe

cobalt sparrow
molten lotus
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There is a time that I wish my headphones weren't so good. I can hear when they use bad autotuning to octave drop voice acting in game.

leaden cloak
dapper berry
# molten lotus what

I don't need to buy any of these immediately, I'll see if a deal pops up in a few days?

velvet kindle
#

lord someone save me

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anyone feel like going down this little car audio rabbit hole w me

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subwoofer connected has power

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amp^

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everything connected 100%

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headunit not outputting anything to it

nimble dirge
#

I am trying to use the TDR Nova Equalizer, but after installing, I can't seem to find their app

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Can anyone help me with it, or suggest some other, better and free equalizer for windows?

nova wagon
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if you found the interface of apo to be too unintuitive, https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/ use this extension

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one note regarding apo's compatibility with realtek audio chipset, you would have to go into the configurator, tick on the troubleshooting tickbox and choose install as sfx/efx in order for apo to work

nimble dirge
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I got this screen

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I'll install it for all, since I don't know which is which

nova wagon
#

right, first of all. lemme explain this windows before you hit ok

nimble dirge
nova wagon
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that windows lets you choose which audio device will be eq by apo
if you highlight one of the devices, you can then tick the troubleshooting options tickbox, which will let you configure how you want apo apply the eq to the device

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looks something like this

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also, equalizer apo can be used as an eq for your microphone as well

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and it supports vst plugins (the audio plugin that obs supported, if you use obs)

nimble dirge
#

Can you tell me what to select, based on the preferences I mentioned?

nova wagon
#

oh and there is a preset literally called bass and treble boost in peace

nimble dirge
nova wagon
nova wagon
nimble dirge
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I think the device I want, is the second one on my screen

nimble dirge
nova wagon
nimble dirge
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haven't reached the preferences screen yet

nova wagon
#

click ok now
it should finish the configurator process and ask you to restart the pc to apply

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have you downloaded peace?

nimble dirge
nova wagon
#

ah okay

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all the things i talked about presets and whatnot will be revelant once you have peace installed

nimble dirge
nova wagon
#

for now, restart the pc and download peace

nova wagon
nimble dirge
nova wagon
#

nice
now you just clicked the bass and high boost profile and it should apply the changes

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i would advice you listening to some music while you do this to make sure things are working

nimble dirge
#

Shouldn't I start listening and tweaking everything slowly

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On my own?

nova wagon
#

oh

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sorry i misread 😅

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yea, go ahead with tweaking your eq then

nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon any things that you might suggest before I start tweaking?

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because I am a complete beginner

velvet kindle
#

anyone feel like going down this little car audio rabbit hole w me

#

sub/amp 100% works, tested it on friends car

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doesnt work on mine

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amp getting power

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not outputting sound

nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon Hey, I have seen people pay extra for earbuds, that have an EQ in the earbud's app

But isn't it possible to tweak the EQ of any audio device? Or are some devices locked at a specific profile?

molten lotus
#

did you test the amp

molten lotus
#

the items that come with eq apps are a gimmick

nimble dirge
# molten lotus it's possible to eq anything

So, I shouldn't pay extra for an EQ, in the app, right?
It's a total gimmick right? The ones that don't have an EQ in the app, should also be possible to be tweaked totally till 100%, right? or are they little less flexible with the tweaking?

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I think the driver capabilities might affect that? but the presence of EQ in the app shouldn't?

molten lotus
#

unless you have an iphone you can eq anything with something like wavelet

molten lotus
#

Eq is eq

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If anything most often hardware specific eq tends to be bad

nova wagon
#

eq is final touches to refine how a headphone sound

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not a thing that makes a headphone sounds like a different headphone

nimble dirge
#

Wait, does EQ tweak the sound output from a device, like my PC, or is it specific to devices?

I think it's the latter?

nimble dirge
nova wagon
nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon Also can you suggest a good and free EQ, for Android, if you know any, or anyone who might know

nimble dirge
nova wagon
#

the pc

nimble dirge
#

I think it's the latter right, because I installed it for only them, during the configuration process, if you remember

nova wagon
#

its not done on the hardware level of each devices, thats for sure

nimble dirge
#

Well, shouldn't that be the better option, because every device needs different tweaking

nova wagon
#

yea and the thing you described is either actual eq unit that you add in your chain of processing devices
or a thing called dsp

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and about how you can choose different devices to apply eq in apo, thats because in the driver level, the audio driver seperate different outputs

nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon Didn't understand anything 😭

nova wagon
#

basically, what apo does is software, and thus it happens on your pc, not on your headphone

nimble dirge
#

Let me explain my doubt: If I own 2 audio devices, one being a treble centric wired headset, while the other being a bass-heavy TWS, then I need to have different tweakings on the Peace software, so that I have a better experience will all kinds of media, on both the devices

nimble dirge
nova wagon
#

im really bad at explaining things btw, im sorry about that

nova wagon
#

right, most of those app do their eq on the software as well

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cause most headphone doesnt have a dsp, digital signal processor on board

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A digital signal processor (DSP) is a specialized microprocessor chip, with its architecture optimized for the operational needs of digital signal processing.: 104–107  DSPs are fabricated on MOS integrated circuit chips. They are widely used in audio signal processing, telecommunications, digital image processing, radar, sonar and speech recogn...

nimble dirge
#

Let's only take the example of TWS and in-app EQ over here @nova wagon

nova wagon
nimble dirge
# nova wagon I don't know the answer to that question unfortunately

I got to know that the EQ you suggested only tweaks the specific device, we had configured it for.
So when I connected a bluetooth device, the tweakings didn't have any effect on it.

Now I want the EQ to be configured for this bluetooth device, but I am given such a big list, with the name not present in the list

How to select, which one is the device I want here?

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and there are many more below

nova wagon
nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon do you know what to do?

nova wagon
#

Well that's fun isn't it
Right click on the volume icon on the taskbar, choose sounds
Under recording, is your new tws listed there?

nimble dirge
#

Yes

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That's how I changed the sound output to them

nimble dirge
#

I want the PBL Flex Go

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I could spot the Jabra ones before, because they are the only ones connected through USB

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but it's a whole different case with bluetooth

nova wagon
#

Not what i meant unfortunately

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This one

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I said right click btw

nimble dirge
#

My bad

nimble dirge
nova wagon
nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon ok next?

nova wagon
#

What does that playback tab looks like?

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Cause for me, the device order is the same between that and apo's configurator

nimble dirge
dry stratus
#

why so many

nova wagon
#

Hmm okay
We could still make a kinda educated guess
I would guess that the flex go would be one of those Intel smart sound for Bluetooth audio, that is labeled as headphone, at the bottom of the list

nova wagon
#

At least realtek made things easy for me by labeling devices

nimble dirge
#

Ok, so now?

nova wagon
# nimble dirge Ok, so now?

Try tuning the device then, see if it works
The easiest way to test is to change the pre amplifying value, cause it changes the volume

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You might need to restart the PC for apo to affect that device

nimble dirge
#

I unpaired the other devices, because I don't use them now

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This made the job easier, but give me some time, after which I'll restart and check which one works

nova wagon
#

Fair enough

nimble dirge
#

Am doing some work right now, I'll update you with a ping

keen swift
#

I asked this yesterday and no one answered I don't know if this is allowed here or what? I was asking if someone could help me and find me a cheaper pair of sony wf1000xm4 if there isn't any crazy discount can someone help with ebay, cuz I live in middle east and this is first time purchasing from ebay and I have to buy and ship from US, and I have no experience with ebay, if this kinda requests are not allowed please kindly let me know, thanks

nimble dirge
#

@nova wagon I could setup the device, and tweaked it, making it much better, but I want to create a new configuration now, after saving the configuration I have made

What should I do?

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Started with that ^^

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Ended with this
Equalization is tough

molten lotus
#

your preamp is set wrong

nova wagon
dry stratus
#

just try to do +50 on 10khz

iron cipher
#

Heyyoo guys i've got an issue on my pc where when ever i'm putting nay speaker to my pc it's make some static noise, so i was wondering if i buy an audio card like the cheap m audio firepro 610 it's going to remove the static noise ?

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cause i've tried the inpute on my 2 screen still the same on my rear jack of my mobo still the same

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the front jack too

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my usb c hub

unique wind
#

klaus answered this yesterday

iron cipher
#

oww if the sound card will remove the noise ?

dry stratus
#

sound card = ew

iron cipher
#

wym by ew ?

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cause rn i'm running the 2 speaker on a jack 6.3 to rca

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with an adapter rca female to jack and a jack splitter

dry stratus
#

soundcard, aka the pcie card you slot into your motherboard, are all terrible to okay-ish

iron cipher
#

ah nah

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i don't mean like the one u put inside the pcie slot

dry stratus
#

audio interface, dac, amp are the other names

iron cipher
#

i mean this

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i can get this one used for 20$ with a pcie firewire card

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and so i was wondering if this thing would remove the static noise because rn i'm converting all the signal with cheap cable lmao

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my m audio bx5 are converted from jack 6mm to rca to jack to a jack splitter

weak rapids
#

Can the goxlr drive the hd600s?

lean grove
#

sure

dry stratus
#

@unique wind smth for you right?

unique wind
dry stratus
#

for those living in cities ig

prime minnow
#

Dyson Zone

cobalt sparrow
weak rapids
#

Oh wow the hd600 and hd660 s are both on sale for $399 CAD

nimble dirge
#

If my TWS have Dolby Atmos and I want to use on my laptop, how to enable it? I don't even know if my laptop has Dolby Atmos support...

primal fulcrum
#

Life hack: Putting all your headphones & scissors in the same drawer adds some extra thrill to life. waveboye

#

Disentangling cables never been so fun! focus

copper ermine
#

or amazon just not over $110 AUD

nimble dirge
dry stratus
#

I mean, dolby atmos fucks up the sound to make it seem like surround

nimble dirge
molten lotus
#

Because they are sellouts

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Not reviewers

nimble dirge
molten lotus
#

dolby atmos systems have like five to twenty speakers

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your tws do not have atmos

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its just a gimmick

nimble dirge
#

@molten lotus Also, I wanted to know, how to create a new configuration in the APO app

and I want to quickly change from flattened config to the tweaked one, I created, so understand the difference

How can I do these things?

molten lotus
#

watch the video lam sent you

nimble dirge
#

I'll get back if I have any doubts

molten lotus
#

your eq last time was completely random and above line level which it shouldn't be

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you aren't going to benefit from eq like that

nimble dirge
#

I understood that basically I was increasing the volume in some way

molten lotus
#

yes

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also because you have 10 sliders doesn't mean you need to use all 10

nimble dirge
molten lotus
#

ah so it was a test my bad

nimble dirge
#

I'll just watch that video, in the original sound signature

molten lotus
#

I don't know how to do it in peace gui, I use apo without that gui

nova wagon
#

A window will open that will let you change the name, icon, and assign a hotkey for quick switching while you have peace opened

soft garden
#

anyone know why audio.dg / Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation is using around 30% cpu contstantly?

#

please ping me if u got a clue about this

tawdry shadow
#

Guys

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Arctis nova 1 or Astro a10

#

?

molten lotus
#

pc37x

weak rapids
#

Hd600

tawdry shadow
plain widget
#

or pc38x.

#

or might i suggest u buy separate mic and headphones.

tawdry shadow
#

But it’s too expensive for me

plain widget
#

ksc75+any cheapo mic for also around 20$. while ksc75 might not have Subbass(it has midbass and a noticible amount), it is proly gonna be waaay better than any shitty gaming headset under 100$.

tawdry shadow
#

Wtf are those

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Anything else?

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Doesn’t have to be the best I’m not a audiophile just anything good and comfortable

molten lotus
#

Hey guys what KZ earbuds should I buy for mixing my new track?
I got a coupon for them so I wanna buy from them but which ones should I buy?

plain widget
molten lotus
#

huh i was expecting to get murdered for wanting to get something from KZ (i have seen people shit on them here on a few occasions) but you actually gave me a very reasonable response thank you lmfao

elder coyote
#

I don't know how much everyone knows about car audio. I was thinking about getting a new head unit, factory doesn't have usb, bluetooth, or aux. I just have a little bluetooth fm transmitter. I was thinking I could get the BOSS BE9ACP head unit. Seems to be on the more affordable side of that group of product.

I wasn't going to put an amp in or anything, would that really be worth all the extra hassle? The car is an 06 Taurus. I just wanted a screen head unit for android auto. I also was able to find it for $280. They also have a 7" model for only $180, but I think that one is a little small.

I could also get one of those flip out units, and a no name for like $90 but idk, I thought it would be better to get this because it has more outputs for future amp maybe and it's a reputable brand.

plain widget
#

I mean, this is a general tech server, not an audiophile one. I can try to explain what's better and why but if u just want KZ cos coupon or u don't want ksc75 because ew, tiny weird thing, oh well, what can I do about it

patent frigate
#

I mean I've seen some of you guys

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Murder people for wanting things like kz

plain widget
molten lotus
#

now you see that part I did not know
and in all transparency I was originally trolling with my message to see just how bad the people here would flip out (I have seen em do it before lmfao) but this has actually turned into a nice conversation

plain widget
# patent frigate I mean I've seen some of you guys

oh I've seen stuff, I just don't get into those convos because I also don't like arguing when everyone is looking down on everyone else in the convo. I can explain and argue in a calm environment. not in a "you're fuсking trash cos u like KZ , and it immediately means ur opinion is trash, etc. etc."

patent frigate
#

I've seen a couple people do it slot

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They shall not be named

buoyant vale
molten lotus
broken eagle
#

wireless iems/earbuds vs on ear headphones for running around office/house. Any thoughts?\

molten lotus
#

airpod pros with those ring attachment things

leaden cloak
#

i plugged my dac into a mac to try out lossless apple music. it sounds pretty good

tacit stirrup
#

I got a nice kept ath-adg1x headset for $20 dollars

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Sounds surprisingly nice

leaden cloak
#

thats a really good deal nice

fast coyote
#

I've got a question for all of you. It's a bit of a weird one but... Here it goes. What is your opinion on headphones becoming more socially acceptable to wear in public, even going so far as to become fashion accessories for some people (AirPods 1/2/3/Pro/Max, Bose QC35/II/45, Sony 1000XM4/M5, etc.)?

lean grove
#

if i see anyone wearing headphones in public i spit on them

dry stratus
fast coyote
dry stratus
#

Reminds me of one time in a restaurant, with teens spitting into the food of others “as a joke”

fast coyote
#

Ew. Or spitting into ice cream containers at the store

dry stratus
fast coyote
#

Spitting on the floor... Depends. If it's outside on dirt or sand, then yeah I guess it's fine. Sidewalk, ehhh... Idk. Bushes, sure go ahead

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I like how this immediately derailed

dry stratus
fast coyote
#

Smack the McShit out of them

dry stratus
#

99% chance its a 15-25 year old male

fast coyote
#

I'm 18. So fair game

lean grove
#

yeah but they were wearing headphones in public which is socially unacceptable

dry stratus
#

just use susvara outside

fast coyote
lean grove
#

I know. I was just making a joke about your question

dry stratus
#

airpods max look dumb tho

fast coyote
#

I'm just tryna get some input cause I'm curious

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Especially with this server being full of audiophiles

dry stratus
#

not really full

lean grove
#

There's maybe a half dozen at best

dry stratus
#

this chat has like 6 active people

fast coyote
#

They're also comfy.

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Then again, nothing touches Bose

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For comfort

dry stratus
#

Klaus, Michael, me, nils, mage and that's about it for active people

dry stratus
fast coyote
#

I never tried empyreans

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They're like $3500 or smth

dry stratus
#

try them, I would buy them just for the comfort

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the sound isn't great tho

lean grove
#

Well people wearing headphones for fashion started with apple. There's a reason they made their earbuds white.

fast coyote
#

Mhm

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Then Beats

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And now... Surprisingly, the duller designs are becoming more prevalent

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Bose QC35/45, Sony 1000XM4

dry stratus
#

just wear cat ears on your head, lel

lean grove
#

Yeah. Beats are designed to look good. The Bose always seemed more like a business fashion than a casual fashion

fast coyote
#

Beats don't even look that good imo

dry stratus
#

beats are ugly the same way as things like jordans

fast coyote
#

Whereas these headphones from KEF... 😳

lean grove
#

They've gotten a bit out of style. But when they were more popular yeah.

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Yeah no. Those look terrible.

dry stratus
#

alien

fast coyote
#

But, tbh, I will always stick by the QC35 II. And I see them EVERYWHERE. College campuses, stores, outside...

lean grove
#

They look like a headphone in the style of a fertility statue

fast coyote
#

But yeah. What're your thoughts on it? I mean the idea of headphones being more socially acceptable?

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Even going as far as becoming fashion accessories in certain cases?

dry stratus
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if only IEMs fit in my ears

tough lava
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20cm toslink cables, awesome.

fast coyote
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Why does that make sense?

dry stratus
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should be shorter

fast coyote
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You right

dry stratus
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how about doing 2x 90 degree connector?

tough lava
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shortest I could get 🙂

dry stratus
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you can always find shorter

tough lava
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it's absolutely stupid though - There is no off the shelf solution for digital audio from one host to another.

fast coyote
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What headphones you got back there?

tough lava
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oh eh, steelseries something or other.

fast coyote
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Arctis 1?

tough lava
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yeah I think so. cromulent for video conferencing and such

fast coyote
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I see.

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I just use a pair of Bluetooth headphones and a dedicated mic

tough lava
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ooooof bluetooth :/

fast coyote
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Yes, Bluetooth on Windows sucks

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Especially when pairing

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But for me I barely have issues with it after pairing

tough lava
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My audio all goes through the linux server - hence the crossover spdif

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it uses pipewire to combine/route the audio to hdmi to the reciever, or the wireless headphones, or the wired headphones or the second zone input for the amp, which is routed to the outside speakers

fast coyote
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Sounds complicated

tough lava
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it is 😄

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needlessly so!

fast coyote
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Yeesh. I could never 😭

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Even as someone who's repaired tablets that would normally be e waste at this point.

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Tablets are a bit of a bitch to repair

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Shit, I've repaired a GoPro.

tough lava
fast coyote
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Oh fuck

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Why did you make it so complicated?

tough lava
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This is pipewire

tough lava
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AND I wanted 5.1 support.

fast coyote
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I mean I get it from that point of view

tough lava
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and that's just the audio. It also does the webcams 😄

fast coyote
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Shut up

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No way

tough lava
dry stratus
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now make it also do the lights

tough lava
fast coyote
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Name the artist

tough lava
dry stratus
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and the toilet paper ofc

tough lava
dry stratus
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have it wipe your ass for you

fast coyote
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😈

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Add a lotion dispenser

tough lava
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The camera stuff isn't working right now, and I need to do more work on some of the interface/software

fast coyote
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All joking aside, that's fucking sick

tough lava
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I have been busy settting everything up at my new location, like 3m from the old one. This of course includes a monitor riser that goes up and down automatically

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.. and a crane, for the PC.

fast coyote
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Jesus.

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Why?!

tough lava
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If you have to ask, then you don't understand 😄

dry stratus
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not even a TV

fast coyote
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Fellow voicemeeter user

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Nice

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Though that looks like Potato

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I use Banana

tough lava
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I was using potato and running everything through my desktop

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but then, if my desktop was down for any reason

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... boom, no audio

dry stratus
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join the darkside, and get a TV as main display

fast coyote
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I just use Banana to route my Spotify and my browser through the mic just to be a jukebox or meme machine in my favorite hellhole, VRChat.

tough lava
dry stratus
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at least get a 65inch

fast coyote
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Yes I play that garbage ass game, VRChat

tough lava
dry stratus
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I want to get triple 65inch at some point honestly

fast coyote
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Banana is kinda neato. And I've made little profiles for VR and for day to day PC use

tough lava
dry stratus
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I mean, I have less monitors than you

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I have 0

tough lava
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My wife doesn't even use an external monitor.

dry stratus
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TV > Monitor

tough lava
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She's straight up insane. I offered!

dry stratus
fast coyote
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I use a 25 inch LG "ultrawide"

tough lava
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yeah nah.

fast coyote
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I say ultrawide in quotes because it's a pretty smol display

fast coyote
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You suggest. Then if she says no, drop it.

dry stratus
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you do tho

fast coyote
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I mean the LG is a good panel. 2560x1080, 75 Hz, has pretty alright color....

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Ain't as good as the Sony TVs in the living room or downstairs

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But for how much it was ($150 new, got it as a Christmas present years ago)

dry stratus
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75hz 1080p, pain

fast coyote
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Still better than 60

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And at that size, it's SHARP

dry stratus
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is it 21 inch?

fast coyote
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I will upgrade after I get my PC up to what I want it. Even have a specific one in mind

fast coyote
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So about the same vertical height as a 21 inch I think

dry stratus
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I couldn't live with less than 43inch anymore

fast coyote
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It's really not terrible

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I love the monitor

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It's a workhorse and Imma keep it

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Until I spend $3000+ to upgrade my PC, and then scrounge up $1300 to get that one QD-OLED from Alienware

dry stratus
fast coyote
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I want a big boy tower

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I have the Y60

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And I'm going 4090 and 13th Gen

dry stratus
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pain, I hate how that case doesn't allow you to let your GPU breathe

fast coyote
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It can cool a 4090

dry stratus
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I'll still take the fractal north or torrent

fast coyote
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I can't return the Y60 and get the North. But who knows. Maybe a future build

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Cause admittedly I love the North's look

dry stratus
fast coyote
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I don't have room for that in my bedroom atm. Still reorganizing some stuff.

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A Fractal North with the ProArt board, and the D15 Chromax Black from Noctua...

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Wait.

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Nvm. Not the D15

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But the North definitely works if you want that clean, modern home furniture design stuff

dry stratus
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scandinavian/Japandi

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tho would personally say it fits Japandi better than scandinavian