#audio-tech
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then a reboot?
yes
upgrade from what? the 990s?
yes
I have my eyes set to 990s pretty much
why
dt880s are the the work of the dt770s and dt990s combined im pretty sure
it is objectively worse than the dt880
and most people recommend an amp cause of 250 ohms
no they don't
ohms don't mean anything meaningful
not to driving headphones anyways
im not saying theyre worse lol
oh I don't think you are saying that
but I am very hardly proclaiming that the dt990 are dt880 but directly worse
im looking at open backs
dt770 is a bad headphone, I wouldn't compare it to the dt880 or 990
out of intrest, howcome i dont see any issues when im running the bass at above 0 db
still does not work
then something is wrong
it starts clipping the dynamic range
subtle but not very noticeable in lower levels
ah, so that sorta static i can hear?
dt770 is prolly in line with my current cloud IIs
dynamic range is like
the loudest and the quietest sound the headphones can make
the more you eq up, the more it closes down
which you wouldn't want
cloud 2 may be better
honestly
ah, which is why you want to keep it below 0db?
yeah
i have it configured right so what could i miss
who knows, can you send a screenshot of both of your eq apo config files
have a great evening yall, and thanks for the help
how would my B550's realtek fare with the 990s?
yea the b550 mobo
first of all, motherboard name's or types do not say anything about the performance of the dac/amp itself
it has a realtek audio
secondly, high ohm does not mean difficult to drive
nor does that
there is no way to tell its performance apart from measuring the particular sound card or listening to it
anyways
well are onboard realtek chips good enough these days
what else you needa ss of?
they are alright
or do I need an AMP
eq apo
not unless you get the 600ohm version
which is actually tough to drive
na, was looking at 250s
though take my word for it mate, you will regret getting the dt990 over the dt880
it is a direct downgrade
Im looking at openbacks
dt880 is an openback
dt990 is dt880 but with unnecessary midbass
pretty sure I saw somewhere they were closed
they aren't
they are 100% open according to my eyesight
yeah I have no idea what is wrong with this
this will sound dumb but are you sure you are using the focusrite lmao
i did have another eq app installed but i closed it
maybe that still has a effect, which i doubt since in windows i selected my speakers from focusrite
you get all benefits of open
its just a smaller surface area that is open
Ill look into them as well
if this matters to you, may as well get he400se which is a lot more open than the dt990
if its ported speakers
now youre talking
was looking at m50xs before
same price range as dt990s
but switched over to openbacks
those are bad
just directly bad
they are worse than gaming headsets
they are alright for mixing maybe
anyways gotta go
nah
yeah and enabling fxsound and changing the eq makes a immediate difference
if you want to ensure standard levels of audio quality you can get an apple dongle usb c to 3.5 adapter
and a usb c to usb a adapter if you don't have one of those
standard 880s or 880s pro? pros are 20€ more expensive
Difference is only that the pro clamp a little bit harder
If you think a snug fit is worth the €20 go for it
are just 880s the premium ones?
Yeah
Beyerdynamic changed the name.
also the black ones?
silver ones look cheaper
just the way they look, ik they're the same
Does anyone know why the subwoofer sounds like this
It has bass but it sounds like the speaker come is hitting something
its either that or you have the bass turned up too high
It’s not loud though
maybe because it is? put it on your bed or something for a second
if it continues, try swapping to a different source entirely, your phone or something
if it continues, maybe it's time for an rma
is a JBL 760 NC good?
or should I save a buck and go for JBL 710?
both seem good and over ear
if these graphs are accurate, then yeah, that's actually pretty solid
as far as I can tell the 710 is just the 760 with less bass
that is a pretty darn agressive amount of bass
so it's really up to preference
you could also look at the akg n700nc m2 which is very comparable to these in sound quality
So, my headphones just broke. i currently have the Logitech G432 Wired. tho i dont want the wire anymore. im looking for a good wireless alternative. My budget is up to 150€ for the headphones. i got a dedicated microphone already, so i dont necessarily need a full headset. any recommendations?
710 just has no ANC
but thanks, I'm thinking this is it
audeze penrose
for a wireless headset with low latency
penrose is like 299 usd no?
ye
its not about latency too. i just need good sounding headphones for about 150€
oh okay so you don't need it for gaming at all?
i do game, but not really much
n700nc m2
tune 710bt i guess?
right. thing is Bluetooth is normally quite bad for gaming. like it's noticeably laggy
but those are good sound quality wise
will be the best for music
cloud ii wirelss would have superior latency
but im pretty sure you cant detact the mic to make it a headphone
oh nvm, you can detact the mic
hmm. i was thinking on going steelseries arctis 7+ . tho im not sure about the sound quality
not good
i guessed so
well, i do like the design tho xD
Why do you want wireless? 😃
but its really not about how they look. i need them to sound good
iirc cloud ii has some warmbright going on too. midbass, cavernous upper mids, but bright
Cuz i hate having a 5m AUX cable running to my pc
my PC aint next to my desk. thats why theres such a long cable
and i cant put it next to me. not enough space
I hate this so much
well, everyone has their own opinion. i like it lol
tho tbh, i wouldnt use those when i go out as example lol
nicest gaming headset I've seen is the clouds. because they look like an actual headphone and don't try to overplay themselves.
yea, but not as crazy as the steelseries
yeh fair
Hmmm, well. I personally use audio technica (M50x and M40x). Great sounding (especially the M50x). The M50x comes with cables in various lengths, so the short cable could be a alternative to the wireless if cable length is your primary reason. 😄
u meant this with cloud II?
ah ok
so alright tuning and looks alright as well
yeah, its not that the cable is too long. its that i need to run a cable to my pc in the first place. my mouse and keyboard are also wireless.
actually the Penrose and it's bigger brother is probably the best looking gaming headset.
yeah, ima look at the cloud II. my local tech store should have them in stock. thx guys
any time
for the record, if you don't mind plugging in for gaming, the jbl and the akg are going to be better than all those options
Ah ok. thx
but if you have to be wireless at all times skip em
jo. thx
are the Fisher ST-512 still good to this day with the right amp? they are from the 1960's
I would imagine it would be garbage with how old the components would have to be
vintage meming isn't worth it 99% of the time
Guys would you say the k712 headset better than the HD6xx for gaming?
no
I use the HD6xx as its my only headset for music and gaming
k712 is worse at both
I own both those headphones currently
don't ask me why
lol
Not that hard to imagine a reason

Much different sound signature, which may or may not work nicer with some music
I've just been in the hobby for way too long, it wasn't a conscious decision to own both
Just buy he6 or smth
k712 I've had forever. the 6xx I've had for like 4 years st this point I think??? idk my sense of time is scuffed
too old
personally I'll take a 6xx with a tube amp over that
a good tube amp
just my prefs. both are great
I have k5 pro as the amp. Don't know if the tube would make a difference as i have never tried
I would for some things, wouldn’t use he6 when I want warm vocals or guitar
Faster music I hate 6x0 on tho
Sounds like it just shits itself
yeah you hit the nail on the head. 6x0 series has unparalleled timbral and tonal qualities making it excellent for acoustic and vocal representation. he6 slams like a motherfucker so it's really good for very energetic stuff
Would a tube amp really make a difference over the one I'm using?
which amp are you using?
Fiio k5 pro
definitely
generally the way I like to think about source gear is they'll rarely if ever change your mind about a headphone. but they will enhance your experience with one
the only time I've genuinely had that experience is with the hd800
where at first I just straight up did not like it, but it took one specific source chain to completely change my mind on that
Wdym by took one specific source chain?
but hd800 is a total anomaly in this regard. that is one of the most resolving, source transparent headphones ever
Im tempted to replace my headset with the 800. I've only heard good things about it
a source chain is the chain of sources that lead to music in your ears, minus the headphone itself
in my case it would be volumio > streamer > dac > amp
some people add a preamp in there, most people don't use a preamp or a streamer
I only use the amp i have
Some people here recommend me not to use a dac because mine is already an amp + dac
yeah that's a dac/amp, it handles both
normally all in one solutions compromise on everything for the sake of being all in one
so I'm not a fan
800 is a good complimentary headphone for the 6xx, and they generally like similar sources, though the 6xx is definitely more accepting
but think about the redundancy of owning multiple headphones before you do any of that.
none of this is worth it to most people
yeah I mean specifically In the audiophile space
For my current set up is it better for me to replace my amp and get a proper amp and dac and whatever needed to compliment the hd6xx or get a better headset to use with my amp?
It still goes down to 40hz easily
Doesn’t matter
What should a proper source chain be? Tidal or game for example > dac > amp > headset?
for games, it really just does not matter. anything past a dongle is pretty much capped.
I would also avoid Tidal. they have some really bad masters on there under the guise of being "better than lossless" which is nonsense.
Goldensound has a good video on it
I would personally focus around getting better source gear but that's because I already know what I like. it's really hard for me to make that judgement for you. my honest recommendation is keep an open mind, talk to people in the hobby that you feel are reliable and get their opinions, listen to their reasoning and what they listen for, and try to try headphones and gear before you pay for them. I can't tell you that any of this is a good idea for you because it most likely isn't. and that's not out of some elitism or gatekeeping. the truth is just that people have unrealistic expectations when it comes to "upgrades" and just the amount of improvement they'll see from 100 dollar to thousands.
Thats why im here asking. Unfortunately we dont a place here to to sell amps or dacs and i have to get everything online. And I've tried to find audiophiles here where I live but I cant find any
I've met few people who work in media stations like tv channels and radio stations but their knowledge is basically like mine 😅
in ear fidelity discord is probably the best place currently to get decent advice
Better headphones if you ask me
Btw what platform can stream music better than tidal that can work worldwide?
unsure
at least about the word wide part
You shouldn't care too much about that anyways
uhh same. I'm in Canada. best all rounder for me is Deezer. I would use apple music if they had a good desktop app for android
I mean windows
not android
they have a great phone app
Doesn't deezer not have an exclusive output device
I considered switching to it
But since it outputted through windows so every lossless track was getting resampled to windows defaults
Deezer works here so i'll try it for a month
Its also cheaper
10$ less than tidal which is cool
If they haven't changed the way it works in windows its literally not different from spotify
Im trying it on my phone with a trail. Will test it on my pc when i get back home
its not something you can tell apart with testing
not with hd6xx anyways
from the sounds of it you have this impression that lossless is a lot better than lossy
it is better on an incredibly minor level you will likely need to spend tens of minute testing a single track to pick a detail that is different in lossless vs high quality lossy
Yeah its those minor details that makes a difference. Thats what i got with upgrading from spotify to tidal hifi
Never understood the concept or anything
But yeah i couldn't hear a difference with my earphones now and i guess thats why because my earphones are not meant for that high quality
Btw I found the HD800s for 1250$ new. If that a good offer?
Mid headphones
Nah, used they usually go for 650-800
New isn’t really worth it unless all you want is wide
What boom arm should I get for my k688?
I just bought the pc37x and I have to ship it, so before I do that I want to know if I need the adapter, for this board.
or can I plug it in? if I can let me know which one cuz I have no idea
Aka basically the same thing but white
I preferred the hd800 over hd800s, and honestly (stock)
Most hd800 at least here come with sdr mod used
yeah well that would make it ever so slightly better than the 800S
stock 800 isn't as good
less bass extension, less upper mids
more treble
just more of the things that make the headphone obnoxious basically
Anyone has recomendation for head phone speaker, i was 3D printing my headphone parts
a headphone speaker? you mean driver?
The small speakers inside the headphones
Except for the less upper mids part
unless you get a really good unit, the mids are going to be generally more recessed on the og 800
or are you saying that less upper mids is less obnoxious
and then theres the 8xx
lack of upper mids is actually a huge chunk of the reason why headphones can come off so faded/disconnected. it's not a good thing
it's a huge part of the reason so many planars sound so unnatural. incidentally the ones that do have decent upper mid extensions tend to be the ones that sound much closer to dynamics and having an organic sound
lcd5 for one
would you rather, slightly "faded" or painful
unless you are one of the minority that actually likes pain or isn't more sensitive to it than other ranges
I'd rather have neither. which is more than both the 800s and the 800 and most planars. all of these are quite recessed.
this is what most people want. the research is there after all
the general preference curve is slanted to around like 3db more upper mids than what the 800 typically has
as seen here
what how
every preference curve I know has recessed mids if not linear
correct yeah. that's just crins spin on thet part of the response the pinna gain is the same though
I don't know which ones you've been looking at but all yhe decent ones have a semblance of pinna gain
like which
like Harman, crins, headphones.com combined, there's a couple other sim blanking the name on. they're all essentially deviations of Harmans target curve which has been thoroughly researched
it's the curve that Michael just posted there
i wish there were audiophile open back headphones with harman bass instead of linear bass
I hear you
I actually don't think I like Harman midbass recess
but I'm Canadian
so
i don’t like elevated mid-high bass
i feel like it makes voices too warm and gives me a slight headache
I also dont like it. but Harmans is basically a trough
I can see why that's there though . there's a bit of bleed if you have that much bass
I imagine it's to curb that
thanks Canada
(bass slant according to Harman is disproportionately Canadian)

I prefer the way arya did it personally, ~1.5-2khz is a pain
yeah nah man not my thing. arya is incredibly limp and uninteresting. you can very audibly hear the mid recess cavern
I usually try to eq around it
it's not so bad when you tone down the treble
if you look at like my favourite headphones, they all fairly similar in balance
fair
@dry stratus do you prefer the Arya to the Edition XS?
I just completely rearranged my desk
I now run triple vertical
space constraints
but I think it should be functional
do prefer adx5000 over hd800 tho
even if it is worse and like 2400 vs 1600
cursed
yoo audio tech i need some help im looking for headphones i can use for xbox(wired) but can also b used for music preferably wireless ((on a budget)
Hd560s
I was hoping someone could help me with a recommendation for a amp, as i have very little knowlage in this space. I wanted to upgrade from my crappy build in speakers to a good sound system, i have an wife approve budget of 3.5k. I was planning to get the SVS Prime surround set and a PB-1000 PRO, but I have no idea what receiver to get for this setup, as the prices seems to be from 500-10k, I don't need all the latest tech, just an amp that can run the speakers, and may have a little room to grow down the line.
onkyo has several nice sub-$500 receivers
Thanks i will take a look
maybe a little cursed but it's functional, one landscape 3 vertical. Great for productivity.
Anyone know any decent subwoofers that r cheap
For under my desk
It dont need 500w or anything
Just decent bass
Could only find it for 250
damn
don’t pay that much
knowing what country you live in would be helpful since it isn’t america
The market is flooded with $100-$200 10-inch powered subwoofers. So, how do you separate the good from the bad… the high value products from the others… and how do you make the right purchase decision to get you the product you need while not over-spending?
To tackle those questions and (truthfully) give my YouTube channel a kick in the pant...
Thx
See yt ig
Uhhh I wouldn't
400se isn't much more expensive and doesn't have that terrible headband
hd600 or 650?
AKG Y600NC WIRELESS or the AKG N700NC M2..which should I buy?
The Y600NC is on sale for 80 bucks (77% discount) but the N700NC M2 is the best Bluetooth headphones for the price and sound quality from what I've heard but would I notice the difference? Mainly using it for music (indoor and outdoor use)
hi, I'm not from the US or EU and I want to buy a sony wf1000xm4 from ebay, but I have never purchaed anything from there and I don't know how to approach it, can you guys help in any way or do you know the wf1000xm4 s on sale somewhere else?
would E10k be a good amp for DT 880s?
can't get Schiit stuff easily ...
it would literally cost twice as much as E10K
No
any better alternatives?
in that price range
I can get an E10K for like 80 Euro
while I'd need to import a Magni and it would end up costing like 150-160 Euro
Qudelix, smsl, topping.
It's pick any of those over the e10k
But. Realistically. You should just try it without an amp
E10K is literally a Fiio?
I did, the headphones are kinda quiet
the onboard Realtek is just too weak
whick SMSL?
something like a SMSL SA-50?
nm, thats not a headphone amp
something like an SH-6?
yea ...
Is K5 Pro a good option as well? It's in this Magni price range from above
which one would be a better option?
any other alternatives?
zen air can
entryfi amps are relatively similar. the best one I've heard is magni but it's marginal. get whatever is most accessible to you.
I know magni is best, but hard to find in EU and if you import price doubles ...
shipping, taxes ...
is it possible to connect my airpods to my pc using wifi?
no
K5 has a relatively warm output
It's fine, but not amazing
K5Pro ESS and Magni are essentially the same price
what dt880 do you have
what I wanna do is get an GOXLRMini, a Headphone Amp and an AT2020
but wont get it all at once
the 250 ohms
880s
onboard drives them ... OKish
and they sound fine (and basically the same) on most amps
they dont sound downright awful, but they are quiet
and idk how they'd sound when properly powered
what I mean is, is the lack of provided power affecting performance, or just the volume
About the same, just volume
Actually maybe a bit of punch as well given you're on the limit of how much power your output can do
But dt880 250ohm has a relatively flat impedance curve
So overall sound should be basically unaffected
where do I plug them in for most power
An amp?
currently got them plugged in the HP jack
tried the line out as well
didnt notice much of a difference
nono
on PC, right now
line out shouldn't have any sound
I definitely got sound out of them thru Line out
Because it's much higher voltage at very low current
currently have them plugged in the Headphone jack up front
they sound the same
also, how do you connect the Amp to the PC?
optically? USB? 3.5mm?
if the amp is just an amp, then either rca or dual 1/4" balanced
If there's a built in dac then optical or usb
for k5 you'd use usb because it's a dac amp combo
isnt Magni as well?
Magni is just an amp so you'd use rca
If you want a matching dac then there's the modi
But magni is a standalone amp
schiit has the fulla and hel for dac amp combo units
but they're just eh
you don't need it, but I also don't know how clean your onboard line out is
just availability wise
if you're amplifying a dirty signal it's not gonna be a good time
I'm assuming k5 pro is around 100eur for you?
I feel like, all of this taken into account, K5 would be a better option
no, K5Pro is like 190
Hm
its all expensive AF in EU
that's high
Magni would be around there as well
and I'd need to import
so, taxes, shipping etc
110+ shipping and taxes
it would come up to 190ish
so I feel like a K5 would be a better option
as it also has a DAC
alternatively... you could get an interface and mic
an interface such as a GOXLR Mini?
motu m2, audient id4 both have decent headphone outputs
goxlr mini is a bit if a bruh
it limits your mic choices heavily and at2020 is eh
I wouldnt use it as an amp
I dont need a hell of a mic
just Discord, Skype, in-game VC
Right but at2020 gets outdone by other mics at its price point
issue with goxlr mini is that it only has 24v phantom power
I could get the USB AT2020
the issue with m50x is that it was never good... gets outperformed by things like nth100 and k361/371 and even m40x
At2020 is kinda harsh....
what would be a good alternative to the 2020?
I havent looked that much into mics
as I dont need anything special
Neat worker bee and akg p120 are both better options, but assuming you don't have sound treated space you shoule also consider xm8500 + pop filter, se v7, sm57 or maybe an om2
that's what I'm saying, the motu m2 and id4 both have plenty of power in the headphone out
You could just use one and let it pull double duty
For both as a good mic interface and headphone out
GOXLR just looks good options wise
for the record this means that 90% of condenser mics you should consider aren't supported
dynamics are ok
AT2020 also has a USB option, so I could go that route
Grab an ifi reee
I like the shure sm58, myself.
Heyyoo guys can u help me really quick, i've got like my speaker and when i plug them into my computer they make static noise
but when it's on my phone there isn't any static noise
get an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter
and a usb c to a adapter if you don't have any usb c ports
me ?
yeah
who told u i've got an apple / usb ports lmfao
you don’t need to own any other apple products
the only usb c i've got on my lian li case is used for my vr headset
get a usb c to a adapter?
so you don't have static
it is the most cost efficient and versatile solution
whether you want to heed my advice or not is up to you
alright i tought there were other fix possible
there are mostly hardware solutions to this unfortunately
it gives you a clean audio output for very cheap and lets you avoid your bad motherboard output that has static
okay i see yea
one thing you can try is, if your speakers are powered via socket
google "how to solve audio ground loop" and do the stuff it tells you to
and another is separating cables of the speaker from everything else
separate it from every other cable and electronical device as much as possible
it may or may not help
yeah it's some bx5 from de m-audio $
worst case it is a ground loop and cant be solved with an apple dongle
but that shouldn't happen too often
i'm trying some fix rn for the ground issue
okay so i think it's more than just the jack on my pc
i've tried on 2 of my 3 screen jack and i've got still the same issue
i've tried on my usb to dock that is on my pc and still the same
i've tried the front jack on it still the same
not surprising any of those are noisy
knowing your phone has no static
the odds are you will need a hardware solution like the apple dongle
and how about plugin my pc inside a wall socket ? cause my pc is on a power strip
If exists, would an Audio Jack KVM Switch degrade the quality of the audio?
kvm switch?
like, something that routes audio?
Yeah like, I plug my headphones into the switch, and it has x outputs going to various devices. From there, I press a button to switch which device the headphones connect to
if it is digital there shouldn't be degradation given things aren't too wrong
analog too
Gotcha. So quality should remain the same even with a kvm switch
if it has an attenuator, like a volume dial, it may affect the audio a bit
the nobaudio switch is a good example of something that works well and has an attenuator
Interesting. What is an attenuator?
in context, basically a knob with resistors on it
whenever you spin the knob, different resistor with different resistance is put into the circuit
making you adjust audio levels
if you're going usb then get the elgato wave 1 or 3
They're far better
the wave mics are lewitt mics....
solely because of the pickup pattern
no idea about that one
I'm not a fan of the q2u tho
bright-ish usb dynamic from audio Technica
a mic is not a priority right now
I mean, none of the 3 is tbh ... I'll just get all of it as I find deals or something
what
"Cheesecake is a basic b***h food" - Crinacle 2023
where
when
why
how
I'm with Crin atm
We were talking about what foods to get whilst in New York. I mentioned cheesecake and he said that XD
Poutine maybe
My parents from NY said that their pizza is very good.
There is a time that I wish my headphones weren't so good. I can hear when they use bad autotuning to octave drop voice acting in game.
hes not wrong but its good
I don't need to buy any of these immediately, I'll see if a deal pops up in a few days?
lord someone save me
anyone feel like going down this little car audio rabbit hole w me
subwoofer connected has power
amp^
everything connected 100%
headunit not outputting anything to it
I am trying to use the TDR Nova Equalizer, but after installing, I can't seem to find their app
Can anyone help me with it, or suggest some other, better and free equalizer for windows?
well well
i got one for you: https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/
Download Equalizer APO for free. A system-wide equalizer for Windows 7 / 8 / 8.1 / 10 / 11. Equalizer APO is a parametric / graphic equalizer for Windows. It is implemented
as an Audio Processing Object (APO) for the system effect infrastructure
introduced with Windows Vista.
if you found the interface of apo to be too unintuitive, https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/ use this extension
Download Peace Equalizer, interface Equalizer APO for free. System-wide PC Audio Equalizer and Effects app for Windows 7 to 11. Peace equalizer is a Windows PC interface for Equalizer APO http://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo. Besides an system-wide audio equalizer on your Windows PC, Peace has an effects panel for balance, crossfeeding, ...
one note regarding apo's compatibility with realtek audio chipset, you would have to go into the configurator, tick on the troubleshooting tickbox and choose install as sfx/efx in order for apo to work
Can you explain this
I got this screen
I'll install it for all, since I don't know which is which
right, first of all. lemme explain this windows before you hit ok
Ok, not clicking Ok 😂
that windows lets you choose which audio device will be eq by apo
if you highlight one of the devices, you can then tick the troubleshooting options tickbox, which will let you configure how you want apo apply the eq to the device
looks something like this
also, equalizer apo can be used as an eq for your microphone as well
and it supports vst plugins (the audio plugin that obs supported, if you use obs)
For now, I just want it for my only pair of headphones
am trying Equalization for the first time to be honest
I have tried tweaking Bass and Treble presets, but not the real frequencies
Can you tell me what to select, based on the preferences I mentioned?
there are built in eq profiles with peace gui, so i guess choose each one and listen to see which one suits your taste?
oh and there is a preset literally called bass and treble boost in peace
That's okay, I'll learn tweaking it, over time, but for now, what should I do next in it's installation?
press ok, restart the pc to finish the installation, and then explore with peace gui
I think the device I want, is the second one on my screen
I don't know which option to select bruh
if you dont want other devices to get eq, just untick the box right next to the device name
if you are still in the configurator window
and based on your preference, the Bass and High Boost might be the one?
Sorry, if you don't understand me, but I am still stuck here
haven't reached the preferences screen yet
click ok now
it should finish the configurator process and ask you to restart the pc to apply
have you downloaded peace?
No, just a second
ah okay
all the things i talked about presets and whatnot will be revelant once you have peace installed
I haven't restarted, should I restart and start Peace, or start peace once, and then restart
for now, restart the pc and download peace
restart and start peace is my verdict
I got the interface
nice
now you just clicked the bass and high boost profile and it should apply the changes
i would advice you listening to some music while you do this to make sure things are working
Why that preset?
Shouldn't I start listening and tweaking everything slowly
On my own?
@nova wagon any things that you might suggest before I start tweaking?
because I am a complete beginner
Equalizer APO: https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/
PEACE UI (you need this too): https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/
EQ option for Mac: https://eqmac.app/
HiFiMAN Edition XS: https://www.headphones.com/products/hifiman-edition-xs-planar-magnetic-headphones
The Limits of EQ: https://youtu.be/FD_s2s8Mw9k
He...
this should be a good starter
anyone feel like going down this little car audio rabbit hole w me
sub/amp 100% works, tested it on friends car
doesnt work on mine
amp getting power
not outputting sound
@nova wagon Hey, I have seen people pay extra for earbuds, that have an EQ in the earbud's app
But isn't it possible to tweak the EQ of any audio device? Or are some devices locked at a specific profile?
did you test the amp
it's possible to eq anything
the items that come with eq apps are a gimmick
So, I shouldn't pay extra for an EQ, in the app, right?
It's a total gimmick right? The ones that don't have an EQ in the app, should also be possible to be tweaked totally till 100%, right? or are they little less flexible with the tweaking?
I think the driver capabilities might affect that? but the presence of EQ in the app shouldn't?
unless you have an iphone you can eq anything with something like wavelet
It's fine
Eq is eq
If anything most often hardware specific eq tends to be bad
eq is final touches to refine how a headphone sound
not a thing that makes a headphone sounds like a different headphone
Wait, does EQ tweak the sound output from a device, like my PC, or is it specific to devices?
I think it's the latter?
But, can it not make a very bass-heavy device, much better sounding?
software eq like apo that you are using, is tweaking the sound output of your device
@nova wagon Also can you suggest a good and free EQ, for Android, if you know any, or anyone who might know
which device, the PC or Headphones?
the pc
I think it's the latter right, because I installed it for only them, during the configuration process, if you remember
its not done on the hardware level of each devices, thats for sure
Well, shouldn't that be the better option, because every device needs different tweaking
yea and the thing you described is either actual eq unit that you add in your chain of processing devices
or a thing called dsp
and about how you can choose different devices to apply eq in apo, thats because in the driver level, the audio driver seperate different outputs
@nova wagon Didn't understand anything 😭
basically, what apo does is software, and thus it happens on your pc, not on your headphone
Let me explain my doubt: If I own 2 audio devices, one being a treble centric wired headset, while the other being a bass-heavy TWS, then I need to have different tweakings on the Peace software, so that I have a better experience will all kinds of media, on both the devices
Well, do EQs in the apps of the devices also tweak them in their software?
so does the eq happens on the software or on the headphone is what i understand?
im really bad at explaining things btw, im sorry about that
Yes
right, most of those app do their eq on the software as well
cause most headphone doesnt have a dsp, digital signal processor on board
A digital signal processor (DSP) is a specialized microprocessor chip, with its architecture optimized for the operational needs of digital signal processing.: 104–107 DSPs are fabricated on MOS integrated circuit chips. They are widely used in audio signal processing, telecommunications, digital image processing, radar, sonar and speech recogn...
Well, what is the difference in the result in tweaking it software and hardware wise?
Let's only take the example of TWS and in-app EQ over here @nova wagon
I don't know the answer to that question unfortunately
I got to know that the EQ you suggested only tweaks the specific device, we had configured it for.
So when I connected a bluetooth device, the tweakings didn't have any effect on it.
Now I want the EQ to be configured for this bluetooth device, but I am given such a big list, with the name not present in the list
How to select, which one is the device I want here?
and there are many more below
Oh good lord Intel
There is no device that has the same name as your headphone?
Nope
The HRX ones are there, but they are a different set of TWS
@nova wagon do you know what to do?
Well that's fun isn't it
Right click on the volume icon on the taskbar, choose sounds
Under recording, is your new tws listed there?
I want the PBL Flex Go
I could spot the Jabra ones before, because they are the only ones connected through USB
but it's a whole different case with bluetooth
My bad
How to reach that on Windows 11?
@nova wagon ok next?
What does that playback tab looks like?
Cause for me, the device order is the same between that and apo's configurator
Everything's got a name there 😂
why so many
Hmm okay
We could still make a kinda educated guess
I would guess that the flex go would be one of those Intel smart sound for Bluetooth audio, that is labeled as headphone, at the bottom of the list
Intel®
At least realtek made things easy for me by labeling devices
Ok, so now?
Try tuning the device then, see if it works
The easiest way to test is to change the pre amplifying value, cause it changes the volume
You might need to restart the PC for apo to affect that device
I unpaired the other devices, because I don't use them now
This made the job easier, but give me some time, after which I'll restart and check which one works
Fair enough
Am doing some work right now, I'll update you with a ping
I asked this yesterday and no one answered I don't know if this is allowed here or what? I was asking if someone could help me and find me a cheaper pair of sony wf1000xm4 if there isn't any crazy discount can someone help with ebay, cuz I live in middle east and this is first time purchasing from ebay and I have to buy and ship from US, and I have no experience with ebay, if this kinda requests are not allowed please kindly let me know, thanks
@nova wagon I could setup the device, and tweaked it, making it much better, but I want to create a new configuration now, after saving the configuration I have made
What should I do?
Started with that ^^
Ended with this
Equalization is tough
you didn't watch the video he sent you did you
your preamp is set wrong
well there is a save button, hit that and it will let you save your eq
just try to do +50 on 10khz
Heyyoo guys i've got an issue on my pc where when ever i'm putting nay speaker to my pc it's make some static noise, so i was wondering if i buy an audio card like the cheap m audio firepro 610 it's going to remove the static noise ?
cause i've tried the inpute on my 2 screen still the same on my rear jack of my mobo still the same
the front jack too
my usb c hub
klaus answered this yesterday
oww if the sound card will remove the noise ?
sound card = ew
wym by ew ?
cause rn i'm running the 2 speaker on a jack 6.3 to rca
with an adapter rca female to jack and a jack splitter
soundcard, aka the pcie card you slot into your motherboard, are all terrible to okay-ish
audio interface, dac, amp are the other names
i mean this
i can get this one used for 20$ with a pcie firewire card
and so i was wondering if this thing would remove the static noise because rn i'm converting all the signal with cheap cable lmao
my m audio bx5 are converted from jack 6mm to rca to jack to a jack splitter
Can the goxlr drive the hd600s?
sure
@unique wind smth for you right?
what is this
Dyson Zone
for the price you can get a focal headset and a huge pack of N95's...
Oh wow the hd600 and hd660 s are both on sale for $399 CAD
It's on my watch later, will definitely watch it later
If my TWS have Dolby Atmos and I want to use on my laptop, how to enable it? I don't even know if my laptop has Dolby Atmos support...
don't it's terrible
Life hack: Putting all your headphones & scissors in the same drawer adds some extra thrill to life. 
Disentangling cables never been so fun! 
https://www.ple.com.au/Categories/930/Headphones-and-Microphones/Headphones whats good and affordable on this site
Buy Headphones at PLE Computers Online Australia - Warehouses in Perth and Melbourne
or amazon just not over $110 AUD
You are saying that Dolby Atmos is terrible? 
I mean, dolby atmos fucks up the sound to make it seem like surround
Really? I have all reviewers say that only Dolby Atmos was the factor which made one TWS better than the other
So, even you say that Dolby Atmos isn't a big improvement?
dolby atmos systems have like five to twenty speakers
your tws do not have atmos
its just a gimmick
Makes sense
@molten lotus Also, I wanted to know, how to create a new configuration in the APO app
and I want to quickly change from flattened config to the tweaked one, I created, so understand the difference
How can I do these things?
watch the video lam sent you
Ok I seriously need to watch it I thing
I'll get back if I have any doubts
your eq last time was completely random and above line level which it shouldn't be
you aren't going to benefit from eq like that
Yes I have heard that from others also
I understood that basically I was increasing the volume in some way
I didn't use all, I just tweaked the once, that were making a differnce
ah so it was a test my bad
For now, can you tell me how to create a new config, first?
I'll just watch that video, in the original sound signature
I don't know how to do it in peace gui, I use apo without that gui
You basically made changes as you like, then hit save
A window will open that will let you change the name, icon, and assign a hotkey for quick switching while you have peace opened
Based
Understood.
anyone know why audio.dg / Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation is using around 30% cpu contstantly?
please ping me if u got a clue about this
pc37x
Hd600
Someone help
you already got help, pc37x.
or pc38x.
or might i suggest u buy separate mic and headphones.
Oh I didn’t know that was for me
But it’s too expensive for me
ksc75+any cheapo mic for also around 20$. while ksc75 might not have Subbass(it has midbass and a noticible amount), it is proly gonna be waaay better than any shitty gaming headset under 100$.
Bro what 💀
Wtf are those
Anything else?
Doesn’t have to be the best I’m not a audiophile just anything good and comfortable
Hey guys what KZ earbuds should I buy for mixing my new track?
I got a coupon for them so I wanna buy from them but which ones should I buy?
making music
KZ.
yeah um, CRN maybe. CCA CRA if the coupon applies to KZ subsidiaries as well.
huh i was expecting to get murdered for wanting to get something from KZ (i have seen people shit on them here on a few occasions) but you actually gave me a very reasonable response thank you lmfao
Yall didn't murder him?
I don't know how much everyone knows about car audio. I was thinking about getting a new head unit, factory doesn't have usb, bluetooth, or aux. I just have a little bluetooth fm transmitter. I was thinking I could get the BOSS BE9ACP head unit. Seems to be on the more affordable side of that group of product.
I wasn't going to put an amp in or anything, would that really be worth all the extra hassle? The car is an 06 Taurus. I just wanted a screen head unit for android auto. I also was able to find it for $280. They also have a 7" model for only $180, but I think that one is a little small.
I could also get one of those flip out units, and a no name for like $90 but idk, I thought it would be better to get this because it has more outputs for future amp maybe and it's a reputable brand.
I mean, this is a general tech server, not an audiophile one. I can try to explain what's better and why but if u just want KZ cos coupon or u don't want ksc75 because ew, tiny weird thing, oh well, what can I do about it
that's cos KZ are literally liers and trick customers. an attempt was made to make em create better stuff when someone collaborated and made the CRN but the attempt was futile
now you see that part I did not know
and in all transparency I was originally trolling with my message to see just how bad the people here would flip out (I have seen em do it before lmfao) but this has actually turned into a nice conversation
oh I've seen stuff, I just don't get into those convos because I also don't like arguing when everyone is looking down on everyone else in the convo. I can explain and argue in a calm environment. not in a "you're fuсking trash cos u like KZ , and it immediately means ur opinion is trash, etc. etc."

we don't really need to talk to people about their poor decisions if we are going to kill them sooner or later
wireless iems/earbuds vs on ear headphones for running around office/house. Any thoughts?\
airpod pros with those ring attachment things
i plugged my dac into a mac to try out lossless apple music. it sounds pretty good
thats a really good deal nice
I've got a question for all of you. It's a bit of a weird one but... Here it goes. What is your opinion on headphones becoming more socially acceptable to wear in public, even going so far as to become fashion accessories for some people (AirPods 1/2/3/Pro/Max, Bose QC35/II/45, Sony 1000XM4/M5, etc.)?
if i see anyone wearing headphones in public i spit on them
The average teenager during cov:
That's messed up.
Reminds me of one time in a restaurant, with teens spitting into the food of others “as a joke”
Ew. Or spitting into ice cream containers at the store
how about the standard spitting on the floor or into the bushes
Spitting on the floor... Depends. If it's outside on dirt or sand, then yeah I guess it's fine. Sidewalk, ehhh... Idk. Bushes, sure go ahead
I like how this immediately derailed
someone spits in your face, says "its just a joke, don't take it serious"
what do you do
Smack the McShit out of them
99% chance its a 15-25 year old male
I'm 18. So fair game
yeah but they were wearing headphones in public which is socially unacceptable
just use susvara outside
Except... No. It is socially acceptable nowadays. I see so many people wearing headphones or earbuds in public places. Mainly either Bose headphones or the AirPods Max
I know. I was just making a joke about your question
airpods max look dumb tho
I'm just tryna get some input cause I'm curious
Especially with this server being full of audiophiles
not really full
There's maybe a half dozen at best
this chat has like 6 active people
To be honest, I kinda like them. Especially in the darker colors
They're also comfy.
Then again, nothing touches Bose
For comfort
Klaus, Michael, me, nils, mage and that's about it for active people
meze empyrean best comfort imo
Well people wearing headphones for fashion started with apple. There's a reason they made their earbuds white.
Mhm
Then Beats
And now... Surprisingly, the duller designs are becoming more prevalent
Bose QC35/45, Sony 1000XM4
just wear cat ears on your head, lel
Yeah. Beats are designed to look good. The Bose always seemed more like a business fashion than a casual fashion
Beats don't even look that good imo
beats are ugly the same way as things like jordans
Whereas these headphones from KEF... 😳
They've gotten a bit out of style. But when they were more popular yeah.
Yeah no. Those look terrible.
alien
But, tbh, I will always stick by the QC35 II. And I see them EVERYWHERE. College campuses, stores, outside...
They look like a headphone in the style of a fertility statue
But yeah. What're your thoughts on it? I mean the idea of headphones being more socially acceptable?
Even going as far as becoming fashion accessories in certain cases?
if only IEMs fit in my ears
20cm toslink cables, awesome.
Why does that make sense?
should be shorter
You right
how about doing 2x 90 degree connector?
shortest I could get 🙂
you can always find shorter
it's absolutely stupid though - There is no off the shelf solution for digital audio from one host to another.
What headphones you got back there?
oh eh, steelseries something or other.
Arctis 1?
yeah I think so. cromulent for video conferencing and such
ooooof bluetooth :/
Yes, Bluetooth on Windows sucks
Especially when pairing
But for me I barely have issues with it after pairing
My audio all goes through the linux server - hence the crossover spdif
it uses pipewire to combine/route the audio to hdmi to the reciever, or the wireless headphones, or the wired headphones or the second zone input for the amp, which is routed to the outside speakers
Sounds complicated
Yeesh. I could never 😭
Even as someone who's repaired tablets that would normally be e waste at this point.
Tablets are a bit of a bitch to repair
Shit, I've repaired a GoPro.
This is pipewire
because I didn't want to compromise, and I wanted it to be entirely arbitrarily routable, processable, and controlled in any way I want
AND I wanted 5.1 support.
I mean I get it from that point of view
and that's just the audio. It also does the webcams 😄
now make it also do the lights
.... that's a given.
Name the artist
and the toilet paper ofc
RGB toilet paper
have it wipe your ass for you
The camera stuff isn't working right now, and I need to do more work on some of the interface/software
All joking aside, that's fucking sick
I have been busy settting everything up at my new location, like 3m from the old one. This of course includes a monitor riser that goes up and down automatically
.. and a crane, for the PC.
not even a TV
I was using potato and running everything through my desktop
but then, if my desktop was down for any reason
... boom, no audio
join the darkside, and get a TV as main display
I just use Banana to route my Spotify and my browser through the mic just to be a jukebox or meme machine in my favorite hellhole, VRChat.
I'm happy with a 48" oled monitor tyvm
at least get a 65inch
Yes I play that garbage ass game, VRChat
27/48/27
I want to get triple 65inch at some point honestly
Banana is kinda neato. And I've made little profiles for VR and for day to day PC use
I made the insane choice to have LESS monitors.
My wife doesn't even use an external monitor.
TV > Monitor
She's straight up insane. I offered!
just force her
I use a 25 inch LG "ultrawide"
yeah nah.
I say ultrawide in quotes because it's a pretty smol display
You don't force your wife to do anything
You suggest. Then if she says no, drop it.
you do tho
I mean the LG is a good panel. 2560x1080, 75 Hz, has pretty alright color....
Ain't as good as the Sony TVs in the living room or downstairs
But for how much it was ($150 new, got it as a Christmas present years ago)
75hz 1080p, pain
is it 21 inch?
I will upgrade after I get my PC up to what I want it. Even have a specific one in mind
25 inches but 21:9
So about the same vertical height as a 21 inch I think
I couldn't live with less than 43inch anymore
It's really not terrible
I love the monitor
It's a workhorse and Imma keep it
Until I spend $3000+ to upgrade my PC, and then scrounge up $1300 to get that one QD-OLED from Alienware
just go custom loop SFF PC for like 6k
pain, I hate how that case doesn't allow you to let your GPU breathe
The bottom fans WORK apparently
It can cool a 4090
I'll still take the fractal north or torrent
I can't return the Y60 and get the North. But who knows. Maybe a future build
Cause admittedly I love the North's look
now you should also just get some 15k$ audio system