audio-tech

[unique wind]

he doesnt want an arm or a headset

[rugged marlin]

why do you not want an arm?

[unique wind]

using a lapel mic for live computer audio is inconvenient

[molten lotus]

bad idea

[unique wind]

and he cant afford a shotgun microphone

[molten lotus]

any sound on your desk will transmit through the mic

[astral hemlock]

Yeah I am aware

[molten lotus]

an arm puts distance between the mic and the desk and it usually helps

also helps position your microphone

[astral hemlock]

They can hear me type

[rugged marlin]

then grab the solo cast

[molten lotus]

grab seiren mini if you are set on getting a desk mic

or a fifine t669

[dry stratus]

buy jades or smth

[molten lotus]

or mpm1000u

[unique wind]

stock box jades

with a brass plate with no dampening

[astral hemlock]

I don’t want something blocking my view

[lean grove]

Hifiman jade

[astral hemlock]

Which is why I am anti boom mic

[molten lotus]

that never happens

literally

[unique wind]

poor people headfon

buy susvara

[molten lotus]

you don't need to shove the mic into your mouth

[dry stratus]

wonder if hifiman jade is any good, the amp was crap at least

[molten lotus]

you can place it at the side of your mouth

[unique wind]

if your monitors are the recommended distance from your face the arm doesnt block the screen

[lean grove]

The only thing an arm needs to do is make sure that your mouth is the closest thing to the microphone. If it's closer to your keyboard or a wall or table, it's gonna sound like ass

[lean grove]

Only amp worth getting for Stax is a transformer

Srd-7 or bust

[dry stratus]

what if he likes ass

[lean grove]

Not my business ig

[warped terrace]

if youre getting into iems then you may want to try the Truthear Hola as a started, it has a very similar profile to the Aria while being 1/4th of the price

[astral hemlock]

Is the Jlab talk any good

[warped terrace]

that could give you a pretty decent idea of what you're getting into

[unique wind]

https://www.linsoul.com/products/tangzu-waner-s-g?variant=43530411180249

best budget iem

nearly identical tuning to 7hz salnotes zero but with better build quality

[dry stratus]

best budget IEM is delta air, 0$, no bloated bass or peaky treble

[unique wind]

an iem cable microphone would sound better than a microphone on a desk stand 3 feet away

[sonic lagoon]

oh ok thank you

[dry stratus]

next ad for delta air's buds:

[astral hemlock]

If I have the mic like 1ft away from my mouth

[unique wind]

conpin i wonder if their tuning is intentional

[warped terrace]

if only the included cable was better

[astral hemlock]

Would it still sound alright

[unique wind]

since air pressure is very different at flying elevation

[unique wind]

it looks fine, wym?

[dry stratus]

no idea, never been in a plane

[unique wind]

iems dont need a thick cable although thick colored cables are pretty

[dry stratus]

also, you should buy ZMF's edgy limited edition

[warped terrace]

its quite stiff

[unique wind]

link

[warped terrace]

though its braided

[unique wind]

oh have you tried them?

i havent so i wouldnt know

[dry stratus]

https://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/stock-headphones/products/atrium-ltd-red

edgelord headphones

[unique wind]

i do own salnotes zero though and their tuning is good

[warped terrace]

only for a bit from a friend

I have both salnotes zero and truthear Hola

[unique wind]

$2900 for a closed back dynamic driver is wild

i have kbear ks2, 7hz salnotes zero, moondrop aria, and tangzu zetian wu

[dry stratus]

open

[unique wind]

is this why theyre considered open

[dry stratus]

@unique wind is your pfp your wife?

[unique wind]

i wish

[warped terrace]

I also had the zsn pro but the right BA broke, and the crn but the filters need a change, the 2 pin socket too

[dry stratus]

the center also open, so..

just a fabric

[unique wind]

oh it looks closed thats odd

i thought it was solid wood aside from the vent i screenshotted

[dry stratus]

I mean

standard color

[warped terrace]

also vido blue

[rugged marlin]

so they open back or what

[unique wind]

the standard wood looks better

[dry stratus]

I want a zmf some day, but specifically one of the darker woods

[astral hemlock]

Imma just get a AT2020 USB

[lean grove]

Glad we spent 30 minutes helping you get to this conclusion

[rugged marlin]

aint that like

a bit over 50 bucks

[astral hemlock]

Yeah but I have heard it’s a good microphone

[rugged marlin]

yeah fair point

[astral hemlock]

It’s even used in a few intel extreme tech upgrades

If it’s good enough for LTT staff ifs probably fine for me

[lean grove]

LTT staff doesn't know anything about good audio.

[unique wind]

it is fine but it's not any better than a fifine t669

which costs half as much

[warped terrace]

hows planar btw

im planning to get the s12

[unique wind]

it's my favorite iem by far

but if you want a planar i recommend this

[warped terrace]

also bc treble head

[unique wind]

best tuned planar iem at the moment and it's made out of cnc aluminum

https://www.linsoul.com/products/tangzu-x-hbb-wu-heyday

[warped terrace]

hbb's tuning is too tame in the upper mids for my preferences

[unique wind]

you might like the original zetian wu then

[astral hemlock]

This one?

[unique wind]

elevated but not peaky treble

with a shit ton of subbass

[warped terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/loud-music-speakers-explode-loud-rock-and-roll-gif-16482155

[unique wind]

yeah pretty much like that

but it doesnt get mushy because planar

i love mine

i use them when i want to listen to really bass heavy music

[warped terrace]

i use vido for bass heavy music unironically

i kinda like the extra separation

[unique wind]

i dont know what vido is

[unique wind]

woah

[warped terrace]

for the price theyre a steal

you should give them a try

[unique wind]

earbud with a windscreen on it lmao

i think im done buying budget in ears though

[warped terrace]

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001160076248.html

below budget

in the future i might get serratus

[unique wind]

300ohm earbuds holy cow

im not a fan of earbuds but i respect it

[astral hemlock]

I just found the LTT mics under 50 video

I am split between an XM8500 with a cheep XLR to USB box or the fifine

[lean grove]

More ohms does mean more sound

[astral hemlock]

https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-FIFINE-Computers-Podcasting-K670/dp/B079HRFH2Y?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1
or
https://www.amazon.com/Condenser-Microphone-Recording-Interface-K669/dp/B01MXL3EOU?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

K670 is on sale rn

so its basicly the same price as the K669

but which is better

@unique wind you got any input?

[unique wind]

im not familiar with the 670

i would get either the 669 or the 683

[astral hemlock]

Is there such thing as a 3.5 mm extender

my monitor has buzzing with its built in 3,.5mm

but I imagine my motherboard IO wouldn't

Ok yes there is

[wintry oasis]

To stop those Plosives you know what I’m sayin

[astral hemlock]

Yeah this should be fine, if irc the only thing basics does right is non charging cables https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Female-Extension-Adapter/dp/B01CNAUYBY/

[fresh hinge]

what's a good $50 or less mic for a lot of background noise?

[frozen relic]

I bought new soundbar, Sony HT-S40R
It 5.1 and here are inputs:
HDMI
Optical
Analog (1x 3.5 jack)

Manual suggests to use arc HDMI or HDMI + optical

Issues is i want to connect it to a pc, i don't have optical input, here are possible inputs:
2x HDMI + DP + 3.5 jack (monitor 1)
HDMI + DP + 3.5 jack (monitor 2)
HDMI + USB 3.2 + USB C + 2x USB 3.0 + 2x 3.5 jack (Mobo)
HDMI + 2x DP (GPU)
(I listed only free ports, except USB C, but i can free it)

Is there possibility for me to connect my sound bar and use 5.1 sound? (5 speakers + subwoofer)

Or am I stuck with 3.1 on Bluetooth

[unique wind]

bluetooth only transmits stereo audio

i believe if you have a newer graphics card you can use a hdmi port on it and have it function like arc

[karmic prairie]

anyone have a good amp suggestions for Sennheiser HD 600?

[ocean pulsar]

cx31993

[ocean pulsar]

i would recommend connecting hdmi directly from the pc to the soundbar and connecting the monitors directly to the pc too
arc requires specific support from the monitor unfortunately

[lean grove]

Zahl HM1

[karmic prairie]

That was more expensive then I had even though it would cost

[ocean pulsar]

We gave you the cheapest option that works well and one of the more expensive ones
🤷 there are plenty of options between these two prices

[karmic prairie]

Good point

I've been trying to determine what to get but the options are so vast.

[lean grove]

it would help if you gave us a budget and some ideas of what you wanted

since, like you said, there's a lot of options

[karmic prairie]

honestly up to 500 or 600 Dollars probably

[lean grove]

do you want solid state? tubes? all in one? a stack?

warm? analytical?

[karmic prairie]

I'd prefer not having tubes

What do you mean by all in one or a stack?

I prefer a all in one after looking it up

[lean grove]

if you're able to afford the extra space, its usually better to get something that is a dedicated dac and a dedicated amp

[karmic prairie]

I could probably do either one

[lean grove]

if I had to do an all in one combo it'd be a schiit jotunheim or an asgard with the dac module

otherwise same thing but you can get a schiit modi, or a modius if you wanna do balanced with the jotunheim

[karmic prairie]

Thank You
I'll look into those

Can I Mention you if I have a question after looking at them

[lean grove]

sure but i might not respond tonight

[karmic prairie]

That's fine

[frozen relic]

What cables do i use? Connecting HDMI only doesn't work (system doesn't recognize machine)

[ocean pulsar]

Welp that's unfortunate, seems you'll need to figure out the optical connector

[frozen relic]

But can I let's say convert it to USB ? Will it work?

[ocean pulsar]

Yep

It'll be converting USB to optical tho

Check reviews to make sure it allows for surround

[lean grove]

@white gate

(sorry for 8am ping)

[sinful niche]

Does anyone know if I should store vinyl records upstairs, where it’s 67-74F, or downstairs where it’s closer to 50f?

[dry stratus]

put it in the fridge?

[bitter hollow]

why is it 50f in your house

[unique wind]

it’s probably a basement

[dry stratus]

how about 50'C like normal humans

[molten lotus]

I wouldn't worry about this too much

That's just an ideal scenario

At summer times our house can easily be 20-30 celsius, out of tens of our vinyls not a single one is noticably warped

[sinful niche]

The only ones that we have that are warped are vintage

[dry stratus]

36-41 celcius here

[molten lotus]

same

as in ours are also vintage

[unique wind]

it usually doesn’t get much hotter than 32c here

[molten lotus]

not one of them are warped

if you are worried a lot just place them in a tight bookshelf or something

where pressure keeps it flat

or under something

not something too heavy, you don't want to mess up the grooves

if you have a vinyl bookshelf squeeze it in there, it should not warp

[sinful niche]

They’re standing vertical in crates

[molten lotus]

Just place them tightly

it should be fine

[keen swift]

last question, do I need the pcv audio adapter

https://www.amazon.com/Massdrop-Sennheiser-PC37X-Gaming-Headset/dp/B084GFGMYT

without is 66.22 with that cable is 121 i don't even know why?

[molten lotus]

what does 121 mean

or 66.22

[keen swift]

121$

66.22$

without the pcv audio adapter the price is 66$ and without is 121$

[molten lotus]

You don't need it

You can buy another adapter that does the same thing for like 5$

[keen swift]

do I need the adapter in the first place

[molten lotus]

maybe

[bitter hollow]

Where are you seeing 66 w/I adapter
It's like 110

[molten lotus]

if your headphone and mic sockets are separate you will need one

[bitter hollow]

Oh, the used one

[keen swift]

is the 66$ used?

[keen swift]

that would be on my MB right?

[molten lotus]

yes

[unique wind]

you didn’t include the seller in this picture so we don’t know

[molten lotus]

laptops often have one input for both

desktops often don't

just plug it in and see if it works

unless you don't need to use the mic

[keen swift]

yeah it is used

[cinder flax]

I know the GameOne came with two cables. A 3m one that terminates in dual 3.5mm 3-pole jacks for PC use and a 1.5m one that terminates in a single 3.5mm 4-pole jack for phone use. You'd use the 1.5m one for Laptops with single headset jacks, while the 3m one is pretty much only useful on PCs with dedicated mic & headphone jacks

If the Drop x Senny is anything like that, it should also come with both cables, no?

[molten lotus]

Hello everyone! I’m hoping some of you guys can help me out here. I have a ps5 and I’m looking for a decent quality headset to buy. I’ve been looking at a few headsets and I heard steelseries are decent and gets the job done. I can get the Arctis 7p+ for $80 or the Nova 7p for $160. Which one should I get? Or should I look at other headsets? My budget is about $150

[pseudo knoll]

I left my amp (magni/modi) on and connected to my sundaras (which i do normally if im only gone for a short time) and i came back like 3 hours later and I was watching some videos using my iems and before i go to bed and I take off my iems i hear a buzzing. I look over and its my sundaras. I go over to see what is happening and they are really hot along with my dac. I turned them off so i will see if anything is broken since i couldn't use them because of how hot they were. Lets hope they are not broken.

[molten lotus]

Check them using your motherboard output

If your amp is damaged last thing you would want is replugging your headphones to it

best amp wrong answers only

[unique wind]

anything klaus suggests

[molten lotus]

anything michael suggests

[steady ether]

hey guys I know razer isn't the best in audio, but is their Razer Hammerhead True Wireless X worth it? (its for 30usd rn)

LED is kinda cool, but its cheap and wanted to know if overall its worth it, in this price range everything else seems sub par and is like kinda dicey

[pseudo knoll]

sounds fine after plugging into my computer. However it is like 1-2 degrees shifted to the left wich is annoying. I left my amp on not pluged into anything to see if it would heat up again and it didn't so i dont know if there was just some circit that was completed or what.

[bitter hollow]

I mean, if you need a headset for $30 sure?

It's not gonna be great

[molten lotus]

if your dac heated up that may have been the issue

[pseudo knoll]

amp not dac.

[bitter hollow]

But it's cheap and if something goes wrong razer will probably at least honor the warranty

[steady ether]

yeah

[molten lotus]

you wrote dac so I thought that might have been it

[steady ether]

but is there anything else worth getting?

[molten lotus]

if you have any throwaway headphones try your amplifier again

if its under warranty id contact schiit to have it replaced

better safe than sorry

[bitter hollow]

You're not gonna find a good wireless headset for $30 so

[steady ether]

well yeah, but I don't need great decent is fine too

[molten lotus]

its going to be straight up bad, decent is an understatement

[steady ether]

there are quite a few options in my country, I'll ask somewhere else ig

[molten lotus]

also wireless for 30$ is shooting yourself in the foot

[steady ether]

why so

[bitter hollow]

For $30 you can get pretty decent wired iems

If you just want something for podcasts or whatever then anything will work

But for music at that price point wired is gonna be vastly superior

[molten lotus]

you are buying two 2.4ghz connectors, a dongle, a microphone, led lights, an entire chasis, dac/amp chips, and two drivers for 30$

[steady ether]

yes but none of them last long lol, I've gone through 2 wired modules in the past 6 months

and others are worse

[lean grove]

Gaming porta pros

[molten lotus]

buy good ones

ones with replacable wires

[steady ether]

btw I don't need it to be 30$

something like 80$ is also fine

[molten lotus]

95% chance your iem's cables are breaking rather than the iems themselves

[steady ether]

not a lot but I'm not having many requirements

[bitter hollow]

Galaxy buds should be around $80 by now?

[molten lotus]

not good for gaming

[steady ether]

buds live are there

[molten lotus]

if that is his use case

[steady ether]

yes, cables break

[bitter hollow]

No
Live are shit

Just the og buds

[molten lotus]

bad ones do, spend like 70$ on iems and you will get durable ones

[steady ether]

oh buds pro is like 60

[bitter hollow]

Buds2 are like $70

[steady ether]

I have

but that had been user error

[molten lotus]

spend 30$ on wireless items and watch the batteries lose their lifespan by 90% in a year

[steady ether]

and the sound was average

[molten lotus]

what did you purchase?

[steady ether]

lol

[steady ether]

I've had multiple wired headsets I don't exactly remember the exact models

[molten lotus]

well there is your issue

buying random items for 70$ isn't going to give you a quality build

[lean grove]

Wait Klaus are you telling me that cheap shit breaks?

[molten lotus]

there are select few items in every price bracket that are particularly good

[steady ether]

I bought 3 from sony

[molten lotus]

you may not believe it

but yes

they do

[bitter hollow]

Do you need a mic?

[molten lotus]

that doesn't say necessarily a whole lot

[lean grove]

🤯

[steady ether]

well not exactly no, but it would be nice

[molten lotus]

for every single half decent sony headphone I can mention at least 20 bad ones

and for every good sony headphone- nvm there isn't such a thing

[steady ether]

true

[bitter hollow]

Then just get galaxy buds/2/pro/not live

[steady ether]

fr man their headsets look so old and outdated now

[bitter hollow]

Whatever is in your price range
That's not the live

[steady ether]

I see

[molten lotus]

are you looking for wireless tws or a gaming headset?

[steady ether]

buds 2 is like

[molten lotus]

and will you use them for gaming

[steady ether]

200$

[steady ether]

not heavy

[molten lotus]

will you use the microphone while gaming

[steady ether]

just need to know which side the audio is from lol

[steady ether]

barely, i have a laptop mic that is good enough so no

[molten lotus]

you see, tws don't use stereo while using the mic

and heavily downscale the audio so they can transmit mic audio

[bitter hollow]

Where do you live

[steady ether]

India

[molten lotus]

so if you use the tws mic, it will sound terrible while it is activated

[bitter hollow]

Ah
Indian taxes

[steady ether]

buds pro are cheap

[steady ether]

yep

[bitter hollow]

Buds pro are pretty good

[steady ether]

ye, i was interested in nothing too

but their ear 1 is not for sale

and stick is

well

idk

[bitter hollow]

Nothing iems are kinda eh anyways

The phone is decent, but probably wouldn't bother with the earbuds

[steady ether]

I've heard otherwise

but the buds don't fit lol (for most people anyway)

[molten lotus]

you can't really say that

since you have different ears than almost everyone

while it isn't absurdly different, some iems fit some people while others don't

[bitter hollow]

I haven't seen any vaguely audiophile sources say that the nothing buds actually sound good so

I assume they're pretty average

[molten lotus]

buds are alright

[steady ether]

ye

but most people say they fall out when exercising etc

[molten lotus]

it may just it be not fitting them

[steady ether]

thats my main issue with iems

[molten lotus]

same

[steady ether]

perhaps

[molten lotus]

my ears are fucking cursed

[steady ether]

istg same here

[molten lotus]

oh well I ordered a new set of foam eartips from china

hoping it will fit me

[steady ether]

I have some cheap plastic ones

like 40 of them

[molten lotus]

it works if it works

[steady ether]

I don't mind it not being foam

its still fine

[molten lotus]

I use it because it fits me better

[bitter hollow]

Depending on the implementation of usb-c on your phone

[molten lotus]

though I can't make a definitive comment since I tried only several eartips

[bitter hollow]

You could also just get wired iems and a dongle

[molten lotus]

none of which are particularly good

id also vouch for what he said regarding wired iems

no tws is going to beat arias

but you wont have anc and other features

if you want you can buy tws adapters for somewhere between 40-90$ to make any 0.78 2pin or mmcx iem wireless

[bitter hollow]

I mean at that point

Btr5 or q5k

Probably better dac/amp

[ocean pulsar]

arias with tws adapter lel

[unique wind]

arias overrated

[molten lotus]

that doesn't make sense

[unique wind]

$20 DD iem in a metal casing sold for $80

[bitter hollow]

It's not like those tws adapters are small

[molten lotus]

by that point use an mp3 player lol

[molten lotus]

they are quite small save for the case

and contrary to using a glorified mp3 player they don't have wires

[bitter hollow]

Which is, y'know, how you actually carry them around

[unique wind]

they’re very comfortable on ear

but the case is very big yes

[molten lotus]

it fits into your pocket without any issues

btr5 isn't as handy or comfortable

[unique wind]

depends what you’re wearing

[bitter hollow]

If you're going to be using Bluetooth and giving up tws features anyways, you might as well get a better dac/amp

[unique wind]

i’m not advocating for a dap to be clear that’s not a comparable solution

[molten lotus]

tight jeans are cringe

[unique wind]

but i don’t bring my utws5 if i’m wearing jeans

feels gross

[molten lotus]

if you can't put your utws5 into your pocket because of tight jeans you deserve it

[unique wind]

stop being facetious

[molten lotus]

I don't know what that means but no

[unique wind]

it means intentionally dramatic

[bitter hollow]

If you can carry around tws adapters, you can also just fit a btr5 and iems

[molten lotus]

yes but why would you

[bitter hollow]

Which will probably sound (slightly) better

[molten lotus]

its still wired

its still annoying

they are literally incomparable

[steady ether]

I have headphone jack

[unique wind]

if you’re gonna use your iems wired anyway just bring a usb c to 3.5mm dongle and forget the dap

[molten lotus]

this

[bitter hollow]

So is carrying around a big ass case for the utws

[molten lotus]

its not as annoying as having wires

[bitter hollow]

Then just use that

[molten lotus]

also you have pockets

[steady ether]

never buying a phone without one

[molten lotus]

pant pockets

back pocket

hoodie pocket

coat pocket

coat inner pocket

if you are running out of pockets by carrying a 7cm case its simply a skill issue

[unique wind]

i use the big velcro pockets for the case

[steady ether]

I don't want wired iems anymore ngl

[bitter hollow]

The inconvenience doesn't seem from having wires
It's having wires connected to your phone

[unique wind]

it’s not comfortable in the primary pockets

[molten lotus]

it does come from having wires

[unique wind]

having wires connected to any device that you have to carry is the problem

[bitter hollow]

Nah
If they're just on your body it's fine

[molten lotus]

I don't want cables running against my body

through my shirt

[steady ether]

for me charging devices feels more like an inconvenience

[molten lotus]

and if you don't do that they can get stuck on anything

[bitter hollow]

Then just
Put them between your shirt and a jacket

[steady ether]

range anxiety

[molten lotus]

what happens when you take off your jacket

:O

[unique wind]

i just plug my utws5 case in at the same time i plug my phone in

(when i sleep)

[steady ether]

jacket become sed

:(

[bitter hollow]

Then you have a wire there?

It's still not up against your body

[molten lotus]

its still getting tugged on random shit

and its still annoying

[unique wind]

i don’t understand the debate anymore

[bitter hollow]

No?

What are you getting wires stuck on

[molten lotus]

arms

objects

people

[unique wind]

it started off as DAP vs UTWS5 and now it’s just “use wired iems”

[bitter hollow]

How

[molten lotus]

if I didn't have any issues with a wire being tugged on shit why would I complain about having them in the first place

[bitter hollow]

Are you the least coordinated person to exist
Are your iem cables all 6 feet long

[steady ether]

what do you guys think about removable mics on some earphones? as a concept they look interesting

[unique wind]

i broke so many dongles by having my phone in my pocket with wired earbuds in

[molten lotus]

also wires are cringe as fuck for gym too

they can get stuck on shit

[unique wind]

and if i raised my head up it’d yank on my phone

maybe it works well if you’re a little guy

[molten lotus]

I am a little guy

can vouch it doesn't work

[bitter hollow]

Yes
That's why Bluetooth adapters are great

You can clip them onto a pocket

[steady ether]

I have used my headset which had a 1.8m wire and that wasn't an issue

[molten lotus]

headsets are one thing

[bitter hollow]

And then the wire doesn't move every time you do anything with your phone

[molten lotus]

wired iems whilst outside is another

[unique wind]

nah i’ll just use my utws5 which have quality amplification without wires

[molten lotus]

this

[dapper dome]

Whats the best wireless earbuds? (like Samsung/Airpods as main examples)

Looking for buds for the gym ^

[steady ether]

ah iems overlooked that

[unique wind]

airpods pro 2

[bitter hollow]

At that point just use regular tws

[unique wind]

no

[dapper dome]

Do you personally have those?

[molten lotus]

if by best you mean the best sound, its a wired iem with tws adapters

[steady ether]

aren't airpods shit sound quality?

[unique wind]

nah

the airpods pro are fine

the standard airpods are wack

[steady ether]

I used my brothers and for the price they were bad imo

[molten lotus]

if by best built in tws you mean most convenient and decent one with all features

airpods 2

[steady ether]

they cost like 600 bucks here

[dapper dome]

I want comfort and convenience

[steady ether]

the pros

[molten lotus]

go for the pros 2

[unique wind]

airpods pro 2

[dapper dome]

Ya’ll are rockstars

(Literally in wm rn so lmao)

[bitter hollow]

If you're gonna sacrifice sound quality anyways
You might as well get noise cancelling, ambient, and actually pocketable cases

[molten lotus]

you aren't sacrificing sound quality

[unique wind]

i’m not sacrificing sound quality you numpty

[molten lotus]

why do you think that utws5 sound worse

[unique wind]

my music is compressed anyway

[molten lotus]

you have clearly never used them

[unique wind]

i use spotify

bluetooth works fine for 320kbps spotify

and the amps in the utws5 are good

[molten lotus]

spotify very high audio is already equivalent to 320kbps mp3

[bitter hollow]

Size
Price

[molten lotus]

and between 320kbps and lossless is a very very minor difference

[unique wind]

neither of these affect sound quality

[bitter hollow]

Then just
Use regular tws?

[molten lotus]

how much do you think the utws5 costs bro

[bitter hollow]

They absolutely do

[molten lotus]

that also doesn't make sense

why settle for bad audio

not like the utws5 sound bad

[molten lotus]

they don't

[lean grove]

Wait till you see how small and cheap the dac is inside the tws

[unique wind]

he can’t comprehend that just because the case is annoying to him that they can’t work for me

[molten lotus]

if it did he1 would be the best headphones

[bitter hollow]

Yeah, you also don't buy tws for the sound quality

[bitter hollow]

I just think it's a weird compromise

[molten lotus]

I don't think we are getting through

[unique wind]

there’s no compromise

[molten lotus]

it isn't a compromise

[bitter hollow]

You don't get the features or convenience of actual tws

[molten lotus]

you do

[unique wind]

i don’t like noise cancelling

[bitter hollow]

But you also don't get the full sound quality of proper iems

[unique wind]

and utws5 have pass through

[molten lotus]

only thing you miss out on is anc

[unique wind]

yes you do

[molten lotus]

you also get that

[unique wind]

iems don’t benefit from lossless anyway

[molten lotus]

this

[unique wind]

and even if they did

[molten lotus]

I don't care about lossless I can barely tell it apart

[unique wind]

320kbps iems of your choice still shit on a random tws

in terms of frequency response tuning

[molten lotus]

only real compromise here is active noise cancelling

[lean grove]

It's a weird compromise to pay the exact same for worse sounding earbuds that are less durable and less customizable.

[molten lotus]

but you trade that with actually good sound

[lean grove]

Tbh a decent seal with music playing is gonna get you 80% of the way there

[molten lotus]

better tell that to samsung

[lean grove]

If you get etys you can get 110% of the way there

[unique wind]

can’t hear jack shit with foam tips in

even with no music playing

[lean grove]

What?

[molten lotus]

I can unfortunately

[bitter hollow]

They're also significantly smaller, which makes them vastly more convenient, get you like 80-90% of the sound, probably have better microphone arrays, and likely better features

[unique wind]

i mean obviously i can hear

but it’s significantly muffled

[lean grove]

WHAT?

[unique wind]

to the point where breathing and swallowing is uncomfortable

i went back to using silicone tips

[molten lotus]

idk why nils is having a breakdown

[unique wind]

less fish bowl

[bitter hollow]

Do you have super shallow eardrums or something

[unique wind]

i dunno

[molten lotus]

i am super shallow in your mom

[unique wind]

i’m not sure that’s a flex klaus

[molten lotus]

what does any of this mean

[unique wind]

uncomfortable as in they become super loud

not that they cause physical discomfort

[bitter hollow]

Oh

So when you breathe or swallow it presumably defucks the tips

[molten lotus]

Anyone have Final audio iems here ?

no you just hear yourself breathing

which is annoying

[unique wind]

no i mean that the sound of me breathing or swallowing is substantially louder than normal

[bitter hollow]

Ah

[unique wind]

because i have a tight seal in my ears

it’s gross

[lean grove]

It is nice to stash them in a tiny pocket and slip them in and out real quick. I swapped to APP's for a few months and came back to the q5k. The conveniences get outweighed by the fact that I can choose any headphone for any occasion wherever I want.

[molten lotus]

Anyone heard of Final Audio here ? 💀

yes

[unique wind]

yeah i don’t like them

[lean grove]

Is that like final fantasy

[molten lotus]

Noice

its more like zelda

[bitter hollow]

Yeah, we're specifically talking about the tws adapters

I might get utws5 just to compare them with q5k
I doubt I'll be able to tell the difference

[molten lotus]

I have the E3000, I love them, the sound signature is more my taste, warm, good mids, punchy bass

[bitter hollow]

But they should sound worse, just volume/price wise

[molten lotus]

What about them do you not like

[unique wind]

so hard much inconvenient

[lean grove]

I just like the functionality of the q5k

[molten lotus]

ayo michael has hands

[bitter hollow]

That thing is huge

[lean grove]

Based cargo pants wearer

[molten lotus]

its the size of a finger

stop coping

[bitter hollow]

I'm not wearing cargo pants just for iems

[molten lotus]

That’s what she said

imagine not having pockets

[bitter hollow]

Jesus how big are your fingers

[lean grove]

Klaus wears skinny jeans

He shops in the women's section too

[unique wind]

can confirm

[molten lotus]

its literally 2/3 of the size of michael's thumb

[unique wind]

i bought him shoes for christmas

[molten lotus]

are your fingers shorter than your thumbs

[unique wind]

they’re size 6 women’s

[molten lotus]

yeah michael has been supporting my lifestyle

thanks

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-jeans-fat-gif-8126569

[steady ether]

for a case, that looks a bit bigger than standard but yeah its still small

[bitter hollow]

Now I'm not a math guy

[bitter hollow]

but

[steady ether]

how is skull candy?

[unique wind]

it is bigger than most earbud cases yeah

but it’s not unusable

[molten lotus]

bro thats so huge

how much did you have to lift at the gym to carry those

[steady ether]

yeah

[unique wind]

i worked my way up to 80lb dumbell curls before i could lift the case klaus

[molten lotus]

yes that is his thumb

[molten lotus]

wow you must be very strong

[bitter hollow]

Normal tws cases fit in coin pockets

Or can be tossed into other pockets with other shit

[molten lotus]

why should I care

normal tws sounds like shit

[bitter hollow]

So?

[molten lotus]

stop having feminine pockets

[bitter hollow]

It's not like I'm gonna be critically listening to music while I'm outside and all I care about is hearing something other than cars

[unique wind]

nobody cares if you use tws man

airpods pro 2 are good

[molten lotus]

you were the one that was defending using btr5 over utws5 for the sake of sound quality for 15 minutes

[bitter hollow]

I just think that tws adapters are a weird compromise

[molten lotus]

what a quick change of opinion

[bitter hollow]

They're huge
But they don't even get you the advantages of tws

[lean grove]

They're for people who are allergic to tucking cables into their shirt

[ocean pulsar]

they work well

[molten lotus]

they are not huge

[unique wind]

fits in pocket

[molten lotus]

they are bigger than the regular tws case

[unique wind]

has better audio quality than airpods

i’m happy

[molten lotus]

and they give you the ability of not having to use wires

[unique wind]

plus i use them on my computer too with aptx adaptive

that’s the reason i got utws5 to begin with

[molten lotus]

so your iems don't get yanked out of your ears and you can comfortably use them in the geam

[ocean pulsar]

allows me to take on and off my mask while wearing them

[unique wind]

50ms bluetooth iems on computer

it’s great

wireless computer audio that isn’t ass

i forget i’m even wearing them

[bitter hollow]

I mean
Windows Bluetooth is

[unique wind]

yeah you need an aftermarket bluetooth transmitter

[ocean pulsar]

fixed in later versions of 10 and 11

[steady ether]

windows 11 bluetooth seems like an improvement tho

[unique wind]

one that supports aptx adaptive

[molten lotus]

why don't you finish that statement and I absolutely meme on you

my computer bt receiver broke

[unique wind]

i use a creative bt-w4 but there are cheaper ones that will give you aptx adaptive

[bitter hollow]

Shit
Terrible
Extremely annoying

[molten lotus]

its windows drivers are screwed up so I use windows 7 bluetooth drivers

lol

[unique wind]

which is 280kbps 50ms or 420kbps 80ms

automatically switches based on content

i can’t perceive any delay when playing games

[molten lotus]

seethe cringe cope

[unique wind]

i wouldn’t use them without aptx adaptive though you’ll be stuck with SBC protocol

[bitter hollow]

anyone who thinks windows bluetooth is good should be banned from using wireless technology

[unique wind]

which is like 200ms

[molten lotus]

it isn't particularly bad

it works

[unique wind]

anyone who doesn’t understand how bluetooth works can’t give their opinion

[molten lotus]

its more related to your bt receiver than it is related to windows

[unique wind]

it’s entirely related to that

most people just use the bluetooth that’s bundled in with their wifi card

[molten lotus]

it is also related to the windows bt drivers but they work alright

[unique wind]

which will only support SBC protocol

[bitter hollow]

yeah
it's functional
that's about the best you can say of it

[unique wind]

not even

[molten lotus]

what about it is dysfunctional then

you say they are bad, how?

[unique wind]

the creative bt-w4 is recognized as a wired output device in windows

you don’t interact with the windows bluetooth menu at all

you select it like a wired device

[bitter hollow]

for one thing, the codecs supported are usually shit

range is often worse than phones

[unique wind]

again that has to do with your transmitter not windows

[molten lotus]

that isn't related to the windows drivers

it is related to the receiver

[unique wind]

you’re ignoring me whatever fuck off

[bitter hollow]

yeah, if for some reason you've decided to buy a higher quality transmitter that works, sure

[unique wind]

i hate when people are so confidently wrong and ignore when i try to help

[molten lotus]

michael I have discovered incredible information

[unique wind]

what’s that klaus

[molten lotus]

the 2$ bt receivers that don't support aptx, don't run aptx

[bitter hollow]

also
I understand buying a $30-50 bluetooth transmitter for a computer even less than buying tws adapters

[unique wind]

how else am i going to wireless low latency in ear monitors on windows

[molten lotus]

why would you buy a monitor

just buy a phone lol

it costs like 100$

[unique wind]

it’s the only solution that exists right now

i fucking hate bluetooth it sucks

but there’s nothing else for now

[bitter hollow]

I mean, I guess

[molten lotus]

there is

[bitter hollow]

I just use wires?

[molten lotus]

but no one has adapted to it

[molten lotus]

what a loop

[bitter hollow]

if intel could put decent bt in their shit that'd be cool

[molten lotus]

its almost like we had already discussed this before

https://tenor.com/view/tuga-numeiro-gif-18302117

[unique wind]

they’d have to pay for a license to put it on their cards

[bitter hollow]

yeah, and it's not really worth it

[unique wind]

and considering like

[molten lotus]

i mean why would they

[bitter hollow]

for like, the three people who are gonna want aptx on their laptop

[molten lotus]

you wont be buying a cpu to have bluetooth

[unique wind]

0.0001% of people even know what aptx adaptive is

they’re not gonna do that

i love my creative bt-w4 though it’s very unobtrusive

it doesn’t need anything installed on windows and you use it like a wired output

automatically pairs when i take the utws5 out of the case

never have to manually connect or pair

feels like using a dedicated 2.4ghz dongle

[bitter hollow]

hm
utws7 is supposed to have anc

[unique wind]

pog

[molten lotus]

for real?

[unique wind]

didn’t know they were making a new one

[molten lotus]

big if true

[unique wind]

might be time for klaus to upgrade

i’m gonna keep my utws5 they have the adaptive that i want

[bitter hollow]

apparently utws5 doesn't fit blessing 2 properly
unfortunate

[molten lotus]

lets see how well this works first of all

I have little hope

[bitter hollow]

oh wait

that might be fake

fiio has not actually announced anything, which explains why that's the only result

[unique wind]

there are some iems where they don’t fit well

[molten lotus]

yeah its a meme

[unique wind]

the salnotes zero don’t fit well

[molten lotus]

says so on the post

[unique wind]

but the salnotes don’t fit with most of my cables so it’s a salnotes problem

shit iem tangzu wan’rer is better

[molten lotus]

use a dremel

now everything fits

[bitter hollow]

apparently the 2-pin utws5 can't deal with recessed at all

I would not describe blessing 2 connecters as recessed

[molten lotus]

dremel issue

[bitter hollow]

so I guess it's just flat as fuck

[unique wind]

must resist urge to buy more iems

i need to buy a laptop first

[molten lotus]

I did

instead bought two pairs of earpads and iem eartips

[unique wind]

the laptop i want is pricy

but it's the cheapest one that meets all my requirements

$1600-2200

[formal cliff]

Budget: $130 - $150
Requirements: Good battery, Fast charging, ANC
Type: Over the ear/ on the ear
Extras: would be great if the headphones are comfy for ears and head support since it's over the ear. Bass quality.

[molten lotus]

n700nc m2

[formal cliff]

Apart from this?

[molten lotus]

I disencourage other options

but if you prioritize anc over sound quality then bose qc45

though they don't last very long

well

they may not last very long

[formal cliff]

Sound quality very important

[molten lotus]

then you wont be beating n700nc m2 when it comes to built in wireless

not in terms of sound at least

except for maybe with ananda bt or hifiman devas, which don't have anc

[formal cliff]

That's around $325 expensive AF(of course it's bose, Still out of budget).

[molten lotus]

qc35 then

look if you prioritize sound just go with n700nc m2

[formal cliff]

$320 again

[molten lotus]

bruh where the hell do you live

Are you looking for a gaming headset?

he isn't

i wouldn't recommend bluetooth for gaming

[formal cliff]

Not exactly. But gaming would be like a temporary thing.

[formal cliff]

https://www.amazon.com/Bose-QuietComfort-Wireless-Headphones-Cancelling/dp/B0756CYWWD/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1KX33QCKJSJ59&keywords=bose+qc35&qid=1677102356&sprefix=bose+qc3%2Caps%2C812&sr=8-2

[molten lotus]

bt for gaming can be bad, especially if you plan to use it's microphone whilst doing so

cursed

anyways like i said

in terms of sound n700nc m2 is better than it anyways

why still look at bose

[formal cliff]

Please send a link. I am not able to find it on Amazon

[molten lotus]

Because of the brand name I believe

[molten lotus]

I think it’s sold out on Amazon

bose is just straight up bad

[formal cliff]

Cuz you suggested 😄

[molten lotus]

i meant after i stressed n700nc m2 being better

but yeah

[formal cliff]

aNY OTHER ALTERNATES?

[molten lotus]

the n700nc m2 seems to be sold out on amazon

at least on the u.s. one

[formal cliff]

websites I mean

[molten lotus]

idk try ebay or something

[molten lotus]

Maybe try their website

https://www.akg.com/Over-ear %26 On-ear

Other than that eBay would probably be the only other option

[formal cliff]

Ebay is shit

[molten lotus]

Yea I don’t really trust eBay when it comes to electronics

why not

you have full coverage on ebay

[formal cliff]

Also how about soundcore Q30 and Q45?

[molten lotus]

bad

very

if you can't find anything else go with the sony xm3 headphones

or xm4

I really dislike them but

if all of the previous options are unavailable

may as well consider them

or go get tws

I think those are probably out of his price budget too

[formal cliff]

Which one?

[molten lotus]

The Sony xm3

crazy how much they charge for at best a mid af headphone

[formal cliff]

Sony, BOSE, ATH these are definitely out of my budget

[molten lotus]

Not the best but these are probably the best option that’s within your budget

Audio-Technica ATH-M50X Professional Studio Monitor Headphones, Black, Professional Grade, Critically Acclaimed, with Detachable Cable https://a.co/d/bJ5xDOo

[lean grove]

Those are terrible

[molten lotus]

yeah id rather buy the xm3

[molten lotus]

I know but he has a budget of $150

but tws @formal cliff

or else you will be shooting yourself on the foot

[molten lotus]

Yea so would I but like he said, it’s out of his budget

Only good thing about buying it from Amazon is that if he doesn’t like it, he can return them and get something else

[lean grove]

They're terrible for $150.

[formal cliff]

?

[molten lotus]

buy true wireless in ears

if all of the items I mentioned are unavailable

the odds of you having good audio for that much is unlikely

[molten lotus]

Aren’t most headsets these days? I have yet to find something that’s decent and well built for under $200

he400se

hd560s

dt880hm

k612

[formal cliff]

That won't workout for me. Biggest fear is that I'd loose it while commuting.

[molten lotus]

you wont

well you might

but it is unlikely for you to drop them somewhere if they fit your ears well

[ocean pulsar]

get tws adapters, they generally hook around the ears, very difficult to lose

[molten lotus]

he asked for anc though

which tws adapters don't have

[formal cliff]

There was another brand, I saw them selling headphones for $900😳

[molten lotus]

is it b&o or something

[ocean pulsar]

anc is not nescessary if you have good enough tips

[molten lotus]

that's a cope

unless its er2se im not seeing that happen

[formal cliff]

Something like that with a '&'

[lean grove]

$100 headphones with $100 wireless adapter.

[ocean pulsar]

literally anything with foam tips would work well

[molten lotus]

I do

it doesn't

also you can't disable passive noise isolation or have a transparency mode

[lean grove]

Never ask Carmon to review your tips

Worst decision of my life

[molten lotus]

it was mandatory tip inspection day

I couldn't avoid it

[molten lotus]

tbh I don't care for either of those but he might

[lean grove]

Transparency mode is goated.

[molten lotus]

there are clear advantages to good anc over passive isolation but different people different priorities

[lean grove]

But ksc75 come with it built in

[formal cliff]

What's passive and active noise cancellation?

[molten lotus]

passive isolation is just plugging your ear with in ears

anc is actively cancelling sound

[lean grove]

And uses power.

[molten lotus]

place playdough into your ears for passive isolation demonstration

or your fingers

[lean grove]

For active noise cancelling put batteries in your ears

[molten lotus]

or it's acid

[formal cliff]

Top 😂

[molten lotus]

beware I will not be responsible for any damage done

[formal cliff]

There's a term for it called deafness

[formal cliff]

Gonna try that battery example

[molten lotus]

anyways I can't help with 150$ over ear anc wireless headphones but if you want to alternate to tws iems then galaxy buds 2/pro or airpods pro 2 are decent options

[dry stratus]

only fine ANC over ears are the quiet comforts and N700NC (not that N700NC has good ANC)

[candid folio]

anyone know any software similar to realtek audio console thatll work with a DAC, since windows no let me bass boost :(

talking about this software*

[unique wind]

equalizerapo

[candid folio]

?

[unique wind]

yah off sourceforge

[candid folio]

how much added latency?

or is it basically none

[placid geyser]

could also try FxSound

https://www.fxsound.com/

[lean grove]

Is that amd software

[placid geyser]

no

[ocean pulsar]

equalizer apo has no latency as its using the windows built in processing

[candid folio]

FxSound has alot worse reviews compared to equalizer

[placid geyser]

how so

maybe i need to switch then

[candid folio]

source* https://www.saashub.com/compare-equalizer-apo-vs-fxsound-enhancer

might wanna read through it, thats just a quick glance

[placid geyser]

fx sound enhancer is the old one

[candid folio]

ah

[placid geyser]

i will try apo now though]

my headphones just sound so flat without a EQ

quite far away almost

[lean grove]

What headphones

[placid geyser]

beyer dt770 pro 250 ohm

i mean it sounds fine mostly without, just want to boost the bass a bit and make the highs sparkle more

[lean grove]

Famously flat headphones.

[placid geyser]

yes

[molten lotus]

it does

you are just using it wrong

but switching to eq apo is a better choice anyways

[candid folio]

im running dt880s

ironically the build that klaus recommeneded

[lean grove]

What did he recommend

[candid folio]

dt880s, ifi zen air

[molten lotus]

dt880s probably

[candid folio]

250ohm 880s

[lean grove]

Please tell me you didn't buy anything Klaus recommended. We let him recommend stuff as a joke
/J

[candid folio]

it was him and like 2 other dudes

[molten lotus]

I don't think I would have said to get the ifi zen air unless you have cash to blow for the dt880 250ohm

its a good item but I don't think it is worth getting for the dt880

[lean grove]

250s can be run off anything.

[molten lotus]

zen air sounds good

[candid folio]

i have the zen air anyways

does the job fine

[molten lotus]

👍

since you want bass

[candid folio]

im assuming you werent joking when you said get 880s with a zen air then or?

[molten lotus]

what do you think of xbass

I wasn't

nils was joking

[candid folio]

eh

aight

even so, im just messing around with apo to see what i can do

im assuming this graph is showing what my headphones are outputting?

[molten lotus]

the red shows how incorrectly you are eq'ing your item

you should just watch a tutorial

[lean grove]

Nothing wrong with that setup imo.

So don't worry I was just JK'ing

[molten lotus]

if something is red

you are doing it wrong

you also did it with the realtek eq except it didn't have the capacity to show red

[candid folio]

that realtek eq was for my jbl speakers

not my dt880s

[molten lotus]

basically

if you want to emphasize a frequency, you don't eq it up

you either eq it up, and then add a negative dB preamp equal to the maximum dB your eq is to put it below line level

or instead of eq'ing it up, you eq everything else but that frequency down

[candid folio]

ah

[unique wind]

if you’re adding 5db of bass add a -5db preamp filter

[molten lotus]

so everything needs to be below that line in the graph

[candid folio]

that makes sense yes

[molten lotus]

add a low shelf filter if you want an easy preset for bass

[candid folio]

im assuming this is correct without any filter

everything at 0

[molten lotus]

yeah

also although maybe too much, the zen air has an xbass function

that may be to your liking

[candid folio]

yeah ive had that running

i listen to songs with unholy amounts of bass so

want more

[molten lotus]

uh

not sure how well that would work out

even if you add 50dB bass, there is a physical limit your headphones

[candid folio]

yeah ive seen that, where they start clipping yes?

[molten lotus]

yeah, though the clipping with the prior eq setup might have just been you putting bass above line level instead of adding a - preamp

I don't think you will find much benefit from xbass combined with apo but who knows

[molten lotus]

that song does not have much bass

its unrelated to your headphones

[candid folio]

meh

[unique wind]

if you’re looking for skullcandy bass it’s not gonna happen on dt880s

[molten lotus]

it gives an impression like it has lots of bass

[candid folio]

ah

[molten lotus]

but even with my headphones eq'd to linear bass, it doesn't slam at all

https://open.spotify.com/track/7N0iCGxTzN2gJPxnTdIRiT?si=43d9f2ebd64640f0

[candid folio]

stuff like dejavu by caspa more accurate for it?

[molten lotus]

go listen to this as an example of what deep bass sounds like

[candid folio]

since ive had that shake the living hell out of my sub

[unique wind]

running a subwoofer you can easily have like

[molten lotus]

30dB bass

[unique wind]

the equivalence of a 30db bass boost

that’s not gonna work with headphones

[candid folio]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4t3EEAM32PyFAWgBIntMEw?si=NL6wYpuRT1ylVNjBIpmz3g&utm_source=copy-link

hows that for testing

[molten lotus]

damn we said the same number

https://tenor.com/view/two-men-kissing-gif-24517185

[unique wind]

my sub is extremely unbalanced

hella bass

[molten lotus]

good for testing

[candid folio]

aight

low shelf?

this correct?

[placid geyser]

i am changing the EQ but do not hear any difference

[candid folio]

for a 3db boost

i think its morely down to what your able to do with this, since this seems to be hella customisable

[dapper berry]

thinking of gettin dt990 to upgrade from my cloud IIs. What amp should I get? O2 is discontinued?

[unique wind]

it’s extremely customizable

[candid folio]

ive figured

[molten lotus]

yeah

[molten lotus]

then you have set it up incorrectly

[molten lotus]

dt880 250ohm is a direct upgrade

to the 990

and you shouldn't be getting an amplifier

[molten lotus]

not the equalizer

the configuration

[candid folio]

check the analysis panel

also

should be no red

[molten lotus]

did you add this to the config.txt

[placid geyser]

i checked the boxes with the config and rebooted

[placid geyser]

even says its apo installed

[molten lotus]

add this to your config.txt

and select headphones.txt in it

anything not included in the config.txt is not active

[placid geyser]

already done

[molten lotus]

boot the configurator

[candid folio]

okay, so for the boosting im assuming for the gain i do on the bass, i should drop the overall gain?

[molten lotus]

select troubleshooting options

install the experimental module

[candid folio]

so if +3db boost on bass, -3db boost overall

[molten lotus]

yes

that is how it works

[candid folio]

that makes sense oaky