#audio-tech
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are you looking an amir's graphs again
thats not 5db
you were looking at amir's graphs weren't you
no
the 5db was pulled out of my ass
and that was the first graph i looked at just now
it's from techpowerup
you can't write techpowerup without amir
?
thats what i thought
buy both and tell me what u think
its 1.4db difference at its worst
so theyre even less different than i thought
that's just frequency response michael
yes but if theyre using the exact same chassis and driver the only differences are the headband and frequency response
it isn't
the housing and tuning can make headphones entirely into different ones
technically too
not only tonally
tuning is frequency response
they're not the same driver tho
see this is what i want to know
what's actually different
instead of just someone's subjective analysis
I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same driver, he probably mentioned that
buy some and open them up
you can tell if they're the same driver usually by looking at impedance
anyways
even if the driver is exact same
the sound can be different
both tonally and technically
yes it can if they had different tunings but they dont really
but nils said they arent the same driver anyway
or different construction/dampening/etc
tuning means everything that changes the sound
which can also affect the technicalities
you could in theory create the same frequency response and have different technicalities
at least on a measurement rig
well.
but yeah, measurement rigs are not perfect representations of what we hear
are there ways to measure technicalities
no
well
its like dac and amps
its a correlation of many things
same way we can't make sense of dac amp sounds off of numbers, we can't of headphones either for the most part
im in the party of there's no audible difference between quality dacs but i can hear differences between amps
they can have meaningful input as to what a headphone can be but it will not be reliable information regarding everything
you can look at everything coming out of the headphone.
all of the data is observable.
but you can't really interpret all the data with 100% accuracy.
thats not it
it is definitely a part of it
that's a matter of accuracy.
ear shape wouldnt affect technicalities
yeah. which is never gonna let us have a perfect measurement rig.
or other subjective factors
thing is
the issue is that its hard to look at the data and say "yeah this will be really resolving"
even with incredible molds of people's heads and ear canals
we still don't have a good representation
or "this has 10% better detail than the d8000"
so the measurement rigs are flawed
theyre not flawed
outside of the ear shape argument
they are meant to measure what we hear, they don't
so long as every headphone that is tested is tested on the same rig it's fine that we cant match everyone's ear shape
it's only used for comparing headphones anyway
issue is
not for seeing how theyll sound on our unique ears
that's the goal. all those measurebators on youtube are trying to do that
there are mechanisms that our body handles regarding how we hear things that aren't reflected in our body shape
yeah but klaus it doesnt matter
so long as every headphone is tested on the same rig that makes it completely fine to compare the headphones
we are born with alien ears like conpin and have a built in +20dB 10khz peak filter
nah conpin has +50db subbass
our body literally autoeq's itself to neutral
our ears
to match what is defined as neutral by the body itself
but the issue is that is not perfect either
since the body is naturally flawed and varying
thats not really how it works but yeah that does happen
it happens with visual stimuli as well
I don't know about visual stimuli
and even between two headphones that have slightly differing angles in drivers or earpads can deliver the frequency response different to your ears
yeah but the way your body bends the frequency response doesnt affect the headphone itself
what is frequency response for if it can't represent what you hear
so measuring on one measurement rig that doesnt match everyones ears is fine
its just to compare not to give a perfect representation of how itll sound on your specific ears
if a slight angle makes a quarter of humanity hear things differently than a rig interprets it, what good is a rig
the quarter part is just a random number but you get my point
michael we have different ears, like all of us
what use is a measurement rig when you look at it like that
its for comparison in a void
youre being a bit of a nihilist but in the audio realm
all ears are different therefore all measurements are meaningless
but just take note that even things that measure really similar don't necessarily sound the same
it's dramatic
but if all physical characteristics are identical then it would
angle, construction, pad
i think you're a bit too deep into subjective realm
XS are undoubtedly better in general but theyre not a radically different headphone
are you comparing xs to anandas or other headphones below its price range
to ananda stealth specifically
but again
but the fact that XS uses a different headband absolutely will change the sound youre right on that
people prefer ananda stealth a lot over the xs
because it changes how they seat on your ears
yeah
this headband style seems like itd be more comfortable
and put less of a dent in your head
you have sundara so
do you like that headband style?
it is more comfortable
even if the headband didnt change the sound physically it could change the way you experience the headphone too
if one is a lot more comfortable and makes you happy youll find more enjoyment
even if they measure the same
clamp changes sound, so headband will change sound.
yeah i said that above
if you have a breeched seal, thats headband and pads, it iwll change the sound
i was just going even further
this headband looks like itd suck big time
(he5xx)
wow the hifiman re-10 looks ridiculous
reminds me of the shure sm5b
you're afraid of the chonk potential
terrified of the chonk
Wait, what in the world?
Why is it a pill?
What end do you talk into?
the arrow points towards your mouth
it's a microphone from 1965/66
it's actually pretty good and was discontinued because it was too expensive to produce at the time
THE BLIMP
I was going to say the same thing lol
very low bar
Would pair with this.
Only issue is these headphones are $10k usd.
why are you not a millionaire or something
It's like 30k cad with taxs and price conversion.
that's not very much money
yeah i wipe my ass with 10k
I don't think headphones that cost as much as a car are worth it lol.
i mean thats not anywhere near enough for one of my cars
6k
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At standard they are 6k but it's still super expensive.
eh one weeks wage
one days wage
Heck sennheiser is more worth it and is cheaper.
I'm good with my philips shp9500 for now though. They do what I need at least.
Was even debating about getting the x2hr instead at the time I bought those.
he1 is pretty alright
yeah get he-1 instead of x2hr
^
Too expensive lol.
get ur finances in order
Looks ridiculous and sounds like hot garbage too afaik
i have no clue but i dont doubt it
ive heard hifiman is terrible with closed backs
What’s a good closed back headset for up to 400 dollars? This will be for music usually rock/classical but occasionally hip hop. Ideally I’ll use it as a pc headset as well with a modmic
akg k371
Oh that’s not that expensive that’s cool
Is anything above that price point just diminishing returns?
anything above that price isnt worth getting as a closed back
Is open back that much better?
yes
Huh alright. What would you suggest for an open back in that price range then? Up to 400
$400 is a bit of an awkward price bracket. take a look at the HD560s, dt880, hd6xx, hd600, and ATH-r70x
if you go a bit above your price bracket you can fit in an open box edition XS
What are good headphones for audio that also have Bluetooth for less than 400 bucks
AKG N700NC M2
They all out of stock tho
Bose QC45ii?
Are they good for gaming?
I rock a pair of QC15 for gaming, got the qc35ii last year on sale and I'm happy as a pig in poop
they're not super... technical headphones? What I mean by this - if you put them up against, say, open-back Sennheisers, you're not going to hear all the detail and separation on the Bose that you would on the Sennys.
But they sound super musical, their tonality is great, meaning games and music sound fun, there's plenty of detail enough to get, like, FPS aiming (at all but the most extreme competitive level)... they're not "gaming headphones", they're not "audiophile headphones" they may not even be the best noise cancelling in the game anymore compared to the NC700 -- but the QC line represents this sweet middle-ground all-rounder of a headphone that last me a decade+ thanks to their relatively modular design (replaceable cables, pads, etc)
Bluetooth latency would make them not great for gaming but usually fine as long it doesn’t matter too much
No I plan to use a cable for gaming guy Bluetooth when I go outside
I mean, you lose a bunch of stuff using a wired usually on those
No anc and often worse sound because no more correction crap
Sometimes wayyyy worse sound
Idk if its also with those tho, but often on those anc headsets
Haven’t personally tried those wired
Hd660s2, lel
600$, ew
I’ll just watch it, and hope they actually decided not to use hd700 driver crap
so I may have managed to get my hands on a NT1-A for $170 off
pretty useful being an audio production and vocal performance student
170 off on a like 165-180 thing
Is it bad that I prefer CD quality over MQA
been looking into buying a new headset, I'm looking for one that comes with a traveling case though
any suggestions?
while I doubt you can hear the difference, no
I kinda dont like tidal's hifi (which is mqa as well) over cds. Its supposed to be the same, however I do detect a slight difference. Something just feels... off... with tidal, compared side-by-side with a cd. (same song)
i dunno if its just psychological tho
MQA is just a lossy format compared to CD which isn't lossy so no that makes sense
Hi All.
Please suggest a noise cancelling headphones(On the ear/Over the ear) under $130
No
It's actually better
So you can pat your hearing in the back
Mqa does claim to be lossless but there have been enough tests on their systems to know that isn't the case
Whereas cd audio be it in wavs or converted to flacs are truely lossless
It's better to get a passive noise cancelling closed back headphone for that price
JBL Tune 760 NC or whatever they are called
What's the difference between active and passive NC?
Passive means it's just the seal between the headphone and your ears, active means there are microphones and speakers playing frequencies to actively cancel out the noise
Passive Isolating headphones suck tho
If you want passive isolation you just buy IEMs
I would go with ANC, But will I get one for the price?
Yeah the one I recommended 6 messages ago
Tune 760 NC
Apple Music, Spotify, Tidal, or other? 4 people, multiple devices (iphones, windows pc's, avr)
Apple Music or Qobuz
Apple Music has a better selection of songs but Qobuz is more compatible with stupid audiophile garbage like roon or LMS
Tho spotify has probably the best recommendation algorithm so it's kinda up to those 3
I don't use roon, LMS, or anything like that, nor do I really care about recommendation algos. I manually build my playlists
Apple music probably the play then
They have lossless which is nice, decent pricing, and more tracks than qobuz
mmkay, thanks
This prod has a mic?
I believe so
yep that's it
This has a lesser battery life, I also had a look at this: https://www.amazon.com/JBL-Live-460NC-Ear-Cancelling/dp/B08WR6YDKP/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2VQ3S9MVIBVR7&keywords=Live+460NC&qid=1676913426&sprefix=live+460n%2Caps%2C505&sr=8-2
In your world, music is essential, so slip on a pair of JBL Live 460NC and elevate your day. Feel the power of JBL Signature Sound delivered by 40mm drivers, enjoy the convenience of Adaptive Noise Cancelling and Smart Ambient technologies that allow you to focus on what matters for you, and talk...
Don't jbls have terrible qc tho
Atleast that has been my experience
Ohh Kay
With their cheap buds
Any other alternatives?
$100 - $130
You can look at the akg k361 bt
It's not active noise cancellation tho
But does have good passive isolation
NC is recomended
Hmm it sounded pretty decent tho
Nah it's bad
The bass is a bit bloated tho
It's substancially worse than stock k361
That is true
which is already pretty bad
Or you just buy truthear Hola and have better headphones than any closed back over ear on the market
Waiting for customs to release my fiio fd5's
Holas
They are pretty decent
But I would pick their 80 dollar siblings most days of the week
What are two good headsets,one of them which is good for gaming,and the other which has good sound quality for music and has Bluetooth for when I go outside for less than 400 usd
Headsets or headphones?
What’s the difference
Headset has mic attached to it
Perfectly balanced sound curve

That is a literal V shape
Good observation
It sounds so good
(Please buy me new ears)
That’s somehow worse
This is what i use
Bassless life ey
It was for my beats fit pros
That’s a bass shelf if I’ve ever seen one
Xd
Jokes on you for my headphones
This is my serious one i use tho
@rich karma YOU JUST DITTO’ED ME

That’s a accurate representation of my reaction
it is
It is
Any good headset for around $18 to $36?
Non
A “good” headset gon set you back 100-150 but it depends what you classify as good
Cheapest id go is artics 3
Which r 50 but that’s a headphone
That'd be like 5k for my local currency
and that's outrageously pricey for a headset
headphones typically play around 1,000 to 2,000
ROG headsets go as far as 16,000 if I'm not mistaken
That’s your opinion
50€ headset is well budget
Would feel bad for myself if i had to live with a 50€ headset
If you rlly rlly want a new headphone get a artics 3
Not really headphones... Look for IEMs
they're like earphones, yeah?
bass space elevator
get cloud 2 @hardy basalt
better than either of those
I'll look into that
Can I hear opinions on best 75-80” tv for 2K or less? Trying to decide if it’s worth going OLED even if its like a b1 or c1 or if some of the mini led options would work. Replacing a 5 year old sonly 75”
are you in the right channel
I mean I don’t see a video tech channel so figured this was closest lol
huh
i thought there was a monitor channel
nevermind this is the c losest
personally i use a projector. there are a lot of used ones that can get a good deal. there are some types of projectors that can sort of compete with oled,
any of the tech channels work for any topic that doesnt have its own channel
I second this. Projector is the way for large screen size.
Anyone here fw 10.2 surround sound?
I found a couple of subs along with a Denon receiver that I think can do 10.2
are ATH-M50xDS just the regular M50x but blue?
as in there's no hardware difference?
Can anyone recommend good gaming iems with a decent mic under 100 $
yep
I have been looking it to this a lot and been asking here for a while to get the best headset/mic, because I live in Iraq and only handful of headsets are available, so I have to order it from US and ship it, and I don't want to get something that isn't good enough, so what would you guys pick for me between the (ASTRO A40 TR Headset + MixAmp Pro TR) and the (Sennheiser pc37x + FIFINE K780) if you cant tell I need a good headset and a decent mic, the astro set costs me 250$ and the sennheiser set costs me 170$ so I need some advice please
The Sennheiser one lol
100% the Sennheisers. Honestly, with the Sennheisers you can probably even skip the dedicated Mic. I've got the predecessor to the PC37x (the Sennheiser/Epos GameOne) and found the mic to be perfectly adequate, if not better then a lot of cheapo mic sets you can get on Amazon...
honestly I'm on edge, I feel like the astro is a safe bet, since I can make this purchase once, and from what I have heard the astro mic quality is far superior to the pc37x, and I hate having separate mic for my setup I hate it, mic quality is kida big deal for me
on the other hand if I go with the pc37x it saves me 126$
astro sounds nowhere as good
wait really?
I must be faded then, I have listened to both on yt and thought the a40tr was much bette r
what do you mean you listened to both on yt
ah I wasn't commenting on the mic quality
but pc37x has a pretty alright mic
but audio wise a40 is nowhere close to pc37x
ohh, well i did mention that, but if I get the pc37x I still can get a fifine k780 which is like 55$
if you are getting a separate mic don't get pc37x
there are better headphone only options out there
like hd560s
given you live in europe and can get them for like 110$
or find them on a sale
Took me some time to set up, but here's a test recording I did with my Sennheiser GameOne as well as my XLR-Mic Setup. Both directly from the mic unedited and not gone through Nvidia Broadcast. Granted, my room is pretty echo-y, but if you think this Headset mic sucks, then you're probably thinking of something else...
pretty alright for a headset mic
But yeah, as Klaus said, if you're getting a dedicated mic anyways, get a pair of proper headphones to pair. Headsets can be great if you're looking for an all-in-one solution, but when you don't need the mic anyways, you can get much better headphones for the same price or save a buck and get similar quality headphones for cheaper...
i live in middle of nowewhere I live in Iraq
then the pc37x would be the best
tho idk that you can get that with a reasonable price outside the us since this is a drop exclusive
yoo that is pretty good and thanks a lot for the work appreciated it
I have already check I can get is delivered to my home for 128$
hmm okay
I will go with the pc37x thanks a lot I do want aio for headset and mic I have seperate mics
i take it there is no difference between tge game ones and the pc37x?
there are some differences i believe
I'm not sure about the PC37x. I believe the only difference between those and the GameOne is the branding? (one being Drop x Senn, the other just Senn or Senn/Epos)
What I do know is that the PC38x has upgraded drivers, which mostly materialise in better bass response?
the PC38x is open back I cant have that in my environment, sad.
They're all open-back. The PC37x, PC38x and GameOne 👀 (it's actually one of the reasons why I love mine so much and why I choose them originally)
I have a pair of Fiio fd5's arriving later this week. On the assumption that I like them, any recommendations on a Bluetooth dac/amp to pair with them for when I want to be untethered from the pc? I was looking at the Fiio BTR5-2021 https://www.fiio.com/btr52021
Feiao portable HiFi Bluetooth earpiece solves the trouble that headphones and devices cannot be separated, allowing you to bid farewell to the shackles of wires and enter the era of wireless music.
wait no the pc37x is not open back, or am I missing something
wait I think they are uhhh
how bad are open backs, can I literally hear anything around me?
If you don't need all the extra power of the BTR5, you could also save a buck and go for the BTR3k also from Fiio. It's quite a bit less powerful on it's non-balanced 3.5mm output, but not that much less on it's balanced output, plus it supposedly has a longer battery life 🙂
Oh, and you could also get something like the Fiio UTWS3 or UTWS5, which basically turns your IEMs into TWS earbuds 👀
What’s TWS? 😊
Outside noises are muffled ever so slightly, so it's not quite like not wearing anything, but you definitely still hear most of what's going on. Personally I think open-backs help for when you're talking, but I understand that it makes them very unpractical in loud environments...
Nm, looked them up
oki 😄
My only real concern with something like that is attaching and detaching the cables (and utws) frequently when changing from wired to wireless
No idea how resilient that connection is
Ah. Makes sense. I'm not sure for how many disconnects these earbud connectors are rated for, but yeah, if you intend on switching frequently, then something like the BTR3k or BTR5 is probably the better choice 😄
Mmkay, thanks for the input
Qudelix 5k is better
BTR5 does cool things like brick itself if you try to EQ
Yeah?
Wait what? o.O
LTD Atrium lookin edgy
i keep hearing stuff like this, but has it happened to multiple people?
mine has worked perfectly for well over a year
Yeah I've seen it a few times
But its not like it's worth the risk because it's better, q5k is also just a better device
the btr is thinner and more easily pocketed
No?
And?
if the sound is the same (which it is) and the power is sufficient, the only difference is practicalities
and imo formfactor is the most important practicality
also doesnt the qudelix have buttons on opposing sides of the device?
Yes
yea its waaaaaaaaay too small of a device to get away with that
I really don't think you have thought this through very much because the q5k controls are not an issue whatsoever
Not to mention paramentrec EQ with auto EQ built in, and being drastically cheaper than btr5 I see 0 reason to buy a btr5
The fact it doesn't have a solid chance of bricking itself is just an extra bonus
ok looked it up and its a bad firmware update that bricks the device.
they pulled that firmware and released a new one that doesnt brick.
But it ships with the firmware that bricks itself
not in the last year
It has
and everyone i can find was able to get their device rma'd
Because I have seen someone in another server with a bricked btr5 in the last 8 months
Why go through the headache when you can get a superior device for cheaper that doesn't have that problem
because its only superior in your biased opinion
a differently biased opinion (my own) finds it to be superior
What does the btr5 offer that the q5k doesn't
sliding in and out of my pocket easily and being able to be controlled with 1 hand while in a pocket
Sounds like a skill issue
oh also have they added next and last track controls?
on release it didnt support that
Yes.
what an awful interface
Those are optional.
Btr5k isn't much better.
Q5K always has options.
Much better customization and its still getting updates expanding it's features
the btr5 comes stock with the same controls as every single inline earbud controller
qudelix seems like it makes sense for enthusiasts, but im never gonna recommend it to someone who doesnt know
Nah. The only thing that's an issue is using a different button for skip backwards.
Otherwise skip forward and pause are the exact same
And if you can't handle double tapping other side of a rocker then....
Maybe stick to dongles I guess
qudelix also seems to have 4x the power when balanced instead of the normal 2x
which seems like a bug?
because its exactly identical to dongle perf when se
1v at 32 ohms se 3.8 balanced
It does 2 volts single ended and 4 volts balanced
not loaded according to measurements
i could not care in the slightest about vpp unloaded, if i need a bluetooth line out ill buy a non portable device
Don't know what situation you're gonna be in where you need that much power but okay.
well if you dont need the power you can get a btr3k which is outright better in all but not having a screen and lower power
its actually half the height of the qudelix, to the point where i keep it in the coin pouch in my wallet
Why stop there. You can keep going lower and lower.
lower doesnt get you much smaller
my outright favorite bt adapter is the one that came with my mh755s
i forget the name
Fiio ubtr
the ubtr is thicker, dont think it would fit in my coin pouch
the one that is built into my wallet
Two coins?
That'll get you a good hour and a half at most parking meters
You're the first person I've met to have to judge audio equipment by how well it fits in your wallet Carmon
the point is that its supposed to be portable
It's not portable if it's not about the size of six coins
where do you keep your dongle?
cause the btr3k was an upgrade from dongle for me, so it had to fit in the same spot
That's a bit of a personal question
you arent required to answer 🤷
and mine do not
i also dont wish for pocket space to be taken up when its not in use
That's what pockets are for Carmon. To put things when you're not using them.
the cheap khakis that dont have double pockets
(i just stood up and doublechecked lel)
yes but i already filled my pockets
keys and work phone on the left, wallet and phone on the right
then iems go in my shirt pocket
How about that clip.
The one the q5k comes with built into that you have to buy for the btr5
I'm sure you can affix that to someplace inconspicuous on your person
the btr5 and 3k come with a clip, its just not built in to the device
must be nice to not have to do manual labor for your job :/
I wear a lab coat.
So. Yeah not really pouring cement or installing windows
Is the clip on the btr5 bad or something
🤷 dunno never used it
the problem is just the whole it being outside of the protection of my garments
why does this thing look so god damn edgy?
oh no that reminds me i did clip the btr3 inside my pocket, but it would fly off whenever i pulled anything out of the pocket
i may actually be able to pull that off with the btr5
When are you getting one
?
no time to put towards stuff right now honestly, might move again in the upcoming year, lol
It's not backwards you're backwards
the btr5 the clip is reversible so if you want to attach the clip on wrong its only an option, not forced on you
What other direction would you want it
the best place to put it is inside of your underwear
so you clip the device on the inside of the pocket so the device is inside and the clip is outside, then the cable goes into the pocket where it can be coiled up and neat?
No Carmon.
The cable goes outside the pocket
Otherwise the only person listening to music will be your butt
so your iem cables are exactly the distance from your pocket to your ears?
my torso is long and i dont have a single iem within 6 inches of that
most have at least 6 inches of slack that needs to stay in the pocket to not get caught on doors
or buy shorter cable
so why not have the port point into your pocket?
the btr3 was designed that way, and the 3k and 5 allow you to choose
That sounds like an easy way to ruin the port and cable. Have it continuously smashed
I also have the ability to choose to drive into incoming traffic.
do it
lose some limb
or an eye ball
or finger
thumb probs
so you can't grip anything
on the inside, it wont get banged around lel
eating dogs?
do that motion with something else
🥴
or can't?
Wonder if there is like any good headphone or iem that doesn't make garbage music sound like garbage, too limited in what I can even listen to
mh755
the suckiest thing about non-consumer trash, it sucks the life out of the bad stuff
listening to generic crap through midrange-higher end stuff
you hate bass tho
everything is gonna sound lifeless without bass
rumbling bass specifically
don't mind planar bass for example
still not boosted tho
i don’t think driver type changes the point at which frequencies rumble
planar bass is just often linear
i think that's why you think that
linear or sub linear
but most music is probably made with the fact that 99% of people use bass boosted headphones in mind
so it’s gonna sound boring with linear bass
dynamics usually just fuck it up whenever I hear it
Nah not true
even if that were to be, there are other factors apart from bass that make music more lively
i mean it’s subjective so there can’t be a true or false
basically would need something that can hide the compression ig
bass spl isn't the only factor that determines its quality
Anyone here know how to change the System Tray icons next to audio channels ?
speakers with headphone icon and headphones with speaker icon, lel
Changing them in Control Panel does not propagate here...
the icons you also cant change are in the new windows 10/11 menu when you click them... maybe I can edit in registry
This Icon specifically
could always just rename headphones to speakers and speakers to headphones
whats that do though
just makes the icons match the name
hahaha
But my headphones go to the Modius DAC and the Speakers are USB driven
Then I just will be more confused
who cares
hahaha
some day you'll forget what headphones are
sold
and say "I put speakers into my ears and walk outside with them"
real solution here is to change the definition of speakers and headphones when I was a kid
anyone got a time machine
except for r70x, most of their items are generally subpar
ADX-5000 I liked at least
probably not within budget tho, and not worth it at their price anyway, especially with HD800 used costing like 1/4th
I could always just try to survive 99 classics + darkvoice or smth
and use a stock eq sm7b
don't speak english so meh
you read and write it very well
sadly yes, because here I am having to learn my first language by translating it to english
tfw your native/first is worse than your second by like 20+ years
(compared to others living here ofc, don't think my written English would be all that good the moment you compare to native)
what a life of no real human connections from age 4-6 and only gaming does to your language development:
to be fair, your average local here pronounces extraordinary as "extra-ordinary"
which would have the opposite meaning
Got my stardew valley vinyls! When I get money I’ll get good analog speakers
eat them
those r cool
warm
I got some iPods, the old one seems to have the black spot that means expanding battery so not gonna plug it in
The nano video one I think it’s called works fine, 16gb, slight liquid damage on top of screen, battery lasts from what I’ve seen, charge for 30 minutes last an hourish of music
You can see the what I think is liquid damage near the top, I might sell it but idk
thats pretty nice
Why not
880 is better than both.
thats not an option bro
quiet
or else i will have to take action
i have been confused how is the headset in the middle better
by that logic shouldn't dt770 be the worst option
Higher number means better everyone knows that
The 770 is closed back. The 990 is open back. The 880 is semi-open. That's why it's in the middle.
im more from pc hardware then headphones so by my logic yes
But it's a lot more neutral than both.
880 also best for gaming??
it images well
not sure whether dt770 or dt880 are better for gaming but it isn't something you should care about
Gaming is an incredibly low bar. Anything decent enough will good for gaming.
i mean anything works but not any headset projects distance of footsteps well atleast not my jbl 760nc that i like 90€
while I do think a headphone with better imaging can assist your gaming on a very minor level, it isn't something you should think about when comparing dt770 to the dt880
so just get what is cheaper?
No, get the dt880
dt770 is straight up bad
and dt990 is a direct downgrade from dt880
hmm i see
880 sounds better
just beyer making 770 too closed and 990 too open
basically both have flaws bigger than the 880
maybe the newer beyer 700 is better but idk
i see
beyer isn't too great at making headphones honestly, they are just good at one or two things and sometimes they release something that has flaws small enough the good things about it make it worth it
in this case, DT880 for gaming, less so for music but still fine
just might be hard to listen to at times
beyerdynamic = tinnitus simulator
they release a lot of headphones that sound like hearing damage
Hey why do i hear dt 770 pros are bad
for being bad
Fair answer but why will my ears bleed
They cant be that bad if people recommend em so much
he was exaggerating the ear bleeding part but they have too much treble
it tires the fuck out of your ears
can even give you tinnitus in above average listening levels
No shit i know they wont bleed my ears
Already there
Aight what about the uhh
K371s
good headphone
not as durable as dt770 but very good for a closed back
id still say open backs cheaper or slightly expensive than it are better but for a closed back it is excellent
Worth like 150 bucks?
Thr k371s
yeah
Thats the average price on ebay
consider k361 as well
k361 is k371 but with less sub bass
if you prefer neutral sound then k361 is better
if you prefer more funky and bassy then k371
I mean i never had a decent pair of headphones
I plan to do some tech reviews, gaming and music listening so, i dont know
just grab k371
the odds are you wont like neutral if you aren't already a part of the hifi hobby
Aight thanks for the advice.
I mean, they can
because the average person recommending them thinks loud and low res bass = good bass
which is objectively wrong
you are welcome
regarding what conpin said
audio reviews often say more about people's standards than they do of the items themselves
probs the one good thing?
they're alright
it will last a few years if you treat them nicely
But are they like comfortable
they aren't built particularly sturdy
I get my new PC tomorrow and am now realizing I don’t own a microphone, any suggestions for a good balance between quality and price And something that does a good job of noise isolation
that's subjective
I know
different head shapes and all
depends, do you have elf ears or monkey ears?
Yeah ape ears.
the Ethos is such a tempting mic tbh
I mean like conventionally comfortable
Like if the cups and band are good
for me they are fine, but I have pretty flat and small ears
tfw IEMs XXS size is still too big
Man tf
Well wait
Iems and headphones are different
K371s go on your ear not in
Or well around the ear
over
Yeah over ears
over
Oh yeah do they plug into the audio interface or the motherboard jack i dont know much about high end audio shit.
Or well i wouldnt say the k371s are high end.
as long as you have small to average sized ears, they should be fine at least
if you have big ears or those floppy ears, they are common enough in audio stores if you want to try before you buy
shouldn't worry too much about that at this price range
I will go check out if i can try em in store b4 i buy em on ebay
I mean getting an xlr interface anyways
you can plug them into the motherboard, but best option would just be getting some cheap dongle
i recommend m track solo
So I am looking to ditch my HyperX Cloud Alphas for some headphones or IEMs, but I need a mic, any recommendations for preferably sub $100 but $150 is not out the question?
Usb or xlr
^
don't need a mic if you can use the IEMs for sound and headphones for mic
true esports setup
if I went XLR would I need a DAC or could I just get an adapter?
that would be pretty wild
Uhhh youd need an xlr interface
Like the m track m solo
Cheap and good.
You can build a mic set up for a 100 bucks
oh yeah thats only $50
you wouldn't need a dac, you would need an interface
Wait 150 for the mic or headphones and mic
mic
Ah yeah
dac is for digital to analog, not analog to digital anyway
for what usage
discord and zoom meetings
Grab a boom arm shock mount the uhh pop filter sock thingy the xm8500 and m track m solo
just give him a 5000$ mic for discord
I meant one of em sock things
oh a windshield
Yeah
i don't think the xm8500 needs it
OR use a thick sock
how about using an umbrella
i don't think it would work very well
ok so xm8500, boom arm, windcreen, and m track m solo?
no shock mount needed
Really?
shock mounts are rarely needed for microphones unless they are meant to be used with them
You can just pop er into the arm?
most mics already have shock mounts built into them
yeah
Ah i thought it wouldnt uhh fit
unless its a stupid mic like the yeti most mics are standardized
and any boom arm recommendations or just anything thats like $50?
id say to grab whatever is the cheapest
if you have money to blow go for whatever innogear has
Yeah it is i thought ya need it to fit the mic onto the arm
you don't
So a boom arm xm8500 and m track m solo
yep, thank you both for the recommendations
No problem
you are welcome mate
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08R2XXYGZ/ref=twister_B09SH9C3S1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 is this a good deal?
I mean i dont know how shit/good the mic is
ok yeah thats what I was wondering
it wouldn't suit your use case
xm8500 is better for you
Or eur atleast.
yeah I think Ill go for xm8500, i just dont love how it looks, but that doesn't really matter
the mpm1000 does sound better
issue is it picks up background audio
that's why I stressed the xm8500
Mmm why?
I have just seen so many SM7Bs in my time that its just what I am used to
ohh ok yeah my room can get kinda noisy occassionally
Just pop a windscreen over it or somethin
hate that mic
so much
yeah I have heard that a lot
become one with the techtubers who recommend razer kraken
You mean the headset or the razer sieren mic
kraken is the razer headset
but the SM7B users all seem to love razer and steelseries headset
Eh just checking as we were talking about mics
Kraken headsets arent really that good
disgusting*
The hyperx cloud IIs are the only decent headset
cloud IIs aren't made to be gaming headsets at least
just a rebrand with a mic attachment
Yeah pretty good though
I am just getting into the audio stuff, are the moondrop arias still recommended? I also do not know if I want IEMs or headphones, the $80 price tag for the arias is very appealing
Shit you want glorified earbuds or over ears?
Also closed or open backs
(Iems are apparently very good tho)
depending on his budget, closed vs open might not even matter
arias are prettygood
my budget is again max $150
id recommend hd560s or dt880 250ohm over it though
I am trying to conserve funds after splurging on my keyboard
or he400se
buy a custom keeb
Hey you can get k371s or hd560s
Ill buy a corsair k63
: troll :
No, im too broke
and the razer vpier signature edition they sell for 300
I wanna make a decent set up for like 900 eur (pc included) already figured it out
I just wondered if the dt 770 pros are bad (appears so)
then just buy the 1080p520hz I think it was Asus monitor that was shown
my custom will be $430 in total
Who the fuck needs 520 hz
Buy a keychron and lube it
is there any specific reasons why?
no one, because most don't even notice 165vs240
144*
165
too late my friend, zoom tkl has already been ordered
i mean they are iems
they are technically more limited than headphones always
Really? I thought there was basically no difference between 144 and 165
this doesn't mean there are iems that sound as good as headphones, but generally, there aren't
ok I see, thank you
not too much, but they cost basically the same and 165hz seems to be more common now anyway
Ill grab a 2nd hand monitor, dont mind a handful of dead pixels : troll :
1440p165hz basically all you'll need (unless you're like me using a 65inch TV and a couch)
Any suggestions?
USB
why only 430
seems like a lot to me
tfw I spent over 600 on keycaps alone
seems like standard to me
Uhh fuck lemme remember
keycaps + keyboard already at 350 quite easily
God uhh what mic was it
I was thinking a blue yeti or that hyperX one but they kinda expensive
the only mic we need is a broken one
Oh shit the hyperX mic is 40 bucks rn
God damn
That seems decent
Yeah it is
at least you can edit your messages
Quadcast right?
Solocast
zoom tkl was $200, keycaps were $150, and switches and lube were $80
...zoom tkl?
pretty normal yes
The audio snob showed up
no room to judge when we're in the audiophile community tbh
I mean, base kits usually already at 80-100+
add the extras and you get there easily
dhl shipping or whatever rolled me
have you heard of it before?
I agree with this but klaus is a good audiophile not a goofy goober dare i say
hes a little gooberish
No i aint into keyboards
i will never not think that keyboards are an inferior hobby
theyre the same thing in different fonts
i aint really either i am more a mouse and mousepad nerd
at least keebs r cheaper
I am not a keeb person, I am a quality person
im involved in every hobby related to a computer so i like all of them
displays, audio, mice, keyboards
Wait is there a non RGB quad cast for cheaper
if I have the choice, I am willing to spend 1000 on shoes if it means good material quality
yeah i think so
the point of diminishing returns with shoes is quite low
based
theres not a lot they can do to make them feel better to wear
i used a 30 eur pair of shoes for 2 years, before i bought semi decent ones
Out of stock shit
material quality can be done a lot to, especially factory made vs handmade, comfort
meh
rip
there's an enthusiast dress shoe community
but for sneakers it's mostly just rarity and collections
i gotta admit, timbs and jordans look good
it is why I spent a lot on keycaps, why bother spending 200$ on plastic keycaps, imma just spend like 720 on aluminum keycap set
i wear timbs 4 work
i have the original style black ones
god I hate jordans
i hear some models have shit comfort
I don't like the hyper casual stuff anyway
give me something to wear that doesn't make me look like I came from the streets and spit on people during 2021
Is the solo cast still an alright microphone
timbs
yeah
what I wore the first like 15 years of my life:
dont buy it
Why
if you already own it then you can make it work but dont buy one
it's a poor value microphone with gamer tax
I don’t own a single functioning microphone
wait whats the budget again
Solo cast is non RGB
you can get a usb mic that beats it for around $45
It’s on sale for 40 bucks rn
samson..meteor? i think, i hear its pretty good
What would be better for that price range
what you wanna get a mic for 40-50 bucks?
https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Microphone-Adjustable-Instruments-Streaming-T669/dp/B07Y1C6GDS/
https://www.amazon.com/FIFINE-Streaming-Microphone-Condenser-Recording/dp/B08ZC9FG6F/
check the samson meteor
fifine is the king of budget usb mics
What’s the catch
just use a text to speech, so you can type and they hear it
you don't have arms?
both of those kits come with one
Speech to text
or that
Let me correct myself, I don’t want a microphone that uses an arm
youre not getting good audio quality then
Arm is necessary for getting a clear voice.
discrimination
I want something that is on par with my HP laptop
I have one of the B&O ones
I hate headsets
What are all these No name brands
lapel is a type of microphone not a brand
my guy you want a mic for 40-50 bucks you want a good mic, or a hyperx solo cast
im not sure what to even suggest him
