audio-tech

[turbid grove]

Took 6 months until Inzone reached to real price!

[unique wind]

out of curiosity what do the "Hifiman He400se" and "Hifiman Sundara" cost for you

[turbid grove]

Hifiman He400se = $222

[turbid grove]

Hifiman Sundara = $425

[unique wind]

every headphone is basically double price for you

[turbid grove]

Not every, some are real price

for example that Pulse 3D = $90

or Inzone H3 = $80

but they're not good

[unique wind]

every headphone worth buying

[turbid grove]

what do you mean

[unique wind]

i mean that all the "good" headphones are more expensive where you live

[turbid grove]

yes

Sennheiser HD 800 S = $2500

how much is it there?

[sand swallow]

1760 usd

[turbid grove]

wow, I wish I could leave this country

SO overpriced

[lean grove]

Start selling your own headphones. Make a killing

[turbid grove]

Can you send me headphone and I sell here

I will get rich

really

I sell them $50 under other prices

Hifiman edition xs = $890

[sand swallow]

what currency do you guys use in iran?

[turbid grove]

That's called IRR, but everything is based on USD and get expensive daily lol

There are very few things that are real price

usually older stuff

from 10 years ago

HIFIMAN Arya = $2300 USD

I should forget buying good headset for now... maybe I go to a trip and buy things there in Turkey

Still will be cheaper

if there are official stores which I think are

[molten lotus]

don't buy those

how much does r70x cost

[molten lotus]

I am in there

and those headphones are just as expensive

well

slightly cheaper

[turbid grove]

in turkey too? hmm

I thought there are official prices there

[molten lotus]

lmao

not even close

we have mad taxes

[turbid grove]

Audio-Technica ATH-R70x = $155

[molten lotus]

what

[unique wind]

woah

[molten lotus]

those are sold for 350$ first hand

are you sure you aren't looking at m50x or something

[turbid grove]

wait let me make sure it's available

Ah not new, it's used

[molten lotus]

go for it honestly

look at the condition and get them

for 150$ its worth it

[turbid grove]

Used 1 year they say

[molten lotus]

especially if it was made in japan

[molten lotus]

get earpad replacements if you want

[turbid grove]

yeah that's fine if they headset isn't broken

[molten lotus]

well test it?

[turbid grove]

yes

[turbid grove]

They said Japanese

[molten lotus]

its worth it

those are 350 msrp, considering how much hx600 costs they would also be sold for 600 ish $ where you live

[turbid grove]

yeah, and it's the only store that has it and he only has 1 used

no new nothing

let me check the price of new

[turbid grove]

New = $622 USD 30 days delivery

[molten lotus]

lol

yeah definitely worth it

[turbid grove]

yeah even if I need new earcap

[molten lotus]

tbh you would need to import the earpads

they aren't easily found

or you need to buy aftermarket ones which are expensive

[turbid grove]

Ah that might be more expensive than the headset

[molten lotus]

it might yeah

its velour though

[turbid grove]

can you tell me a model so I check price

[molten lotus]

it doesn't age much or flake off

you can clean it with an alcohol doused cloth

[molten lotus]

I don't have the model

[turbid grove]

Ah so it's good if it's not broken

[molten lotus]

you need to mail audio technicha directly to purchase r70x earpads

the original ones at least

[turbid grove]

not possible here

[molten lotus]

it is possible

you will just pay imports

and shipping

[turbid grove]

No one sends to Iran

[molten lotus]

which may cost like 150 usd in total

[molten lotus]

no amazon?

[turbid grove]

these shops import indirectly

[turbid grove]

No

[turbid grove]

that's why they cost a lot

[molten lotus]

well

[turbid grove]

that's why maybe I travel to turkey

[molten lotus]

for the time being id say to see if there is anything wrong with the pads

the pads of r70x don't really age, the only thing you would establish by buying new ones would be to have them be clean

so if the earpads aren't smelly you are good

[turbid grove]

that's good!

[unique wind]

lysol them bitches

[turbid grove]

look at this, this is how we buy from amazon

some shetty people 2X price

they say $349 the price

then it becomes $622 with delivery

.

and these reasons

66% the real price
20% IDK what

14% for them

and the actual prices changes until they deliver even more

[stone quartz]

Has anyone tried these before?

They seem to be on a pretty good sale

But B&O is a brand that gets memed all the time so I'm not sure

[lean grove]

B&o is kind of a joke.

[stone quartz]

Always have been tbh

It's really hard to find a decent pair of TWS earphones

[unique wind]

airpods pro 2

or fiio utws5 with IEMs of your choice

[stone quartz]

I'd probably go thr Fiio route

As I don't own an iPhone

[unique wind]

i use utws5 every day and like them

[stone quartz]

I did try my friend's first gen AirPods pro and they weren't to my taste

But he was playing some bass boosted shit at full volume

So hardly a fair test

I will look into both

All the mainstream ones seem to have terrible mids and highs when I watch the sound demo videos of them on YouTube

[turbid grove]

Can you check from here:
These are usually close to real price, but they don't have everything
https://www.tehranmelody.com/studio/headphone?sort=p.price

[median frigate]

airpods pro 2

[turbid grove]

Use page translator to English

[median frigate]

said someone

[turbid grove]

for example Audio-Technica ATH-M50x = $165

it's more real than others

so if they have something good...

[lean grove]

M50x is bad.

[molten lotus]

hm

[tardy shard]

Would anyone be able to recommend a cheap, low power receiver that has inputs for 3.5mm (or coaxial) and tos-link? Blutooth would be a bonus.
For context, I'm currently using the audio pass through in my monitor for my PC and Xbox to computer speakers and it makes an annoying hiss. I've found some cheap devices on ebay but am uncertain as to the quality. What do you guys think?

[molten lotus]

I've heard that the he400se has bad qc, should i be worried?

[unique wind]

mine has no issues but having used it i would recommend the hd560s instead

[stone quartz]

Are you satisfied with Stereo or does it need to support surround sound?

And would you like a subwoofer output?

[tardy shard]

Regular stereo is fine. The speaker set is a Logitech all-in-one thing with a sub and only has inputs for one 3.5mm and L/R RCA.

[stone quartz]

By receiver, do you mean one like this?

[tardy shard]

Something like this would be more my speed.

[stone quartz]

Ah, I see

I'm sure that would work

[white gate]

Please don't get that one

https://goldensound.audio/2021/08/03/prozor-dac-measurements-worst-dac-in-the-world/

It's beyond terrible

[tardy shard]

I don't need or want anything fancy. What would you recommend? Any particular brand names?

[stone quartz]

There doesn't really seem to be a middle ground

It's either those mass produced generic things or a fairly expensive one from a reputable brand

But I am likely looking in the wrong places

Golden knows a lot more than me, I'm sure he has a solution

[tardy shard]

Any alternatives then?

[white gate]

Fiio D03K would be a much better option

[molten lotus]

not true

[tardy shard]

There's a few really affordable listings on ebay. I'll try it out, thank you!
For going from the adapter to the speakers, does it matter if I use a 3.5mm cable or RCA? I have both.

[molten lotus]

it doesn't

but rca can help with some noise because of balanced

[lean grove]

It's not the worst. You'll know if somethings wrong within the first couple days. hifiman is pretty good about customer support. So worst case scenario you have to send a few emails and send it back and wait.

[molten lotus]

if it doesn't die in a week it wont break

if it does then hifiman will replace it

okay cools

[molten lotus]

why's that?

[unique wind]

he400se is a little light on bass and the upper treble is kinda harsh

that’s just my opinion though maybe you’ll like it

[molten lotus]

hm

the hd560s are a bit more expensive though

i prefer the 400se technicalities

[unique wind]

they are yeah but i think theyre a better first headphone

[molten lotus]

but the hd560s tonality

pick what you want

tonality or technicalities

[unique wind]

tonality = how they sound

klaus = weird

[molten lotus]

hmm

[unique wind]

technicalities = sound stage and micro details

[molten lotus]

I prefer better sound lol

better sound is combination of both

but you don't have that

ah

not for 200$ at least

what are technicalities then

[unique wind]

i dont think youd be able to notice technicalities on your first nice headphone

tuning is a lot more important

[molten lotus]

soundstage, imaging, layering, resolution

except for back and front imaging he400se does all of these better

[unique wind]

plus the he400se requires an amp whereas the 560s doesnt

[molten lotus]

require is a strong word but they do get better with one

same with hd560s but that don't need one as much as 400se

I have an amp

[unique wind]

i mean theyre not good off of my motherboard or utws5

[molten lotus]

which amp

its just a receiver with a headphone amp built in

yeah don't use that

lol

[unique wind]

probably has a lot more power than a motherboard

[molten lotus]

speaker amps have shit headphone outputs

globally

[molten lotus]

the other choice is my uphoria um2

believe me that is likely a better choice

speaker tapping would be ideal but that is a level of autism I am not sure you are willing to go into

speaker tapping is getting headphone output out of speaker output?

not saying you need to speaker tap 400se just saying out of everything you have that may be the best solution

[molten lotus]

yea

I'd be willing to do that lol

you may suffer from noise though I don't know how noisy your receiver is

I'm sorry, do the he400se or the hd560s require an amp

well, sound better

400se would likely have noise from speaker taps

only 25 ohms

[molten lotus]

eh my receiver is slightly noisy

it's very old

that will probably be very noticeable with 400se

would the headphone out on a uphoria um2 even be that bad

its not that bad but

I don't know

its fine ig

test for yourself between the um2 or and the receiver headphone output

or the speaker taps if you want to see whether there is any noise

i could also just get a little usbc to headphone out

um2 is fine for that

I'd have to get usbc to 1/4" out and idk how available those are tho

why

you have a um2

idk

I've just heard that the amp on the um2 is ewaste

from @unique wind

[unique wind]

i dont remember saying that

that is true for the focusrite solo though

[molten lotus]

bulma pfp

nerd

[lean grove]

Um2 was the og dongle

It's good enough.

[molten lotus]

okaay

@unique wind @molten lotus @lean grove thanks for the help

[unique wind]

um2 on its way to be a better interface than the scarlet solo for 40% of the price

[molten lotus]

its not terribly better, just some steps ahead

[unique wind]

being better whatsoever for 40% of the price still deserves praise

[molten lotus]

your mom is better for 40% the price of others

im sorry i had to

[unique wind]

check under your bed

[molten lotus]

i have a loft bed

under my bed is my desk

checkmate liberal

look behind you

[molten lotus]

im sitting against a wall

I know.

[molten lotus]

get out of my walls right now or I'm calling your mother

[stone quartz]

anyone have some recommendations for some BT headphones for like $50

[unique wind]

i dont know of any at that price

[molten lotus]

You do but you wouldn't recommend them.

[unique wind]

i actually dont know any of the ones at that price range by name

[molten lotus]

Raycon

[unique wind]

headphones not earbuds

[molten lotus]

Doesn't Jabra have a pair?

[unique wind]

genuinely no clue

i only know like three bluetooth headphones, ive never shopped for them

[molten lotus]

Anker has a $60 pair. But with their shady nature.

Yeah can't recommend anything at that price

[rough jolt]

JBL Tune 710bt

[molten lotus]

that is 50$?

[unique wind]

80

[stone quartz]

In the past I had a soundcore vortex and they were good but the headband broke on them

So I got the life 2 neo but they are so small and they play a static sound that Is kinda annoying

I was looking at the q20+ if I could confirm they didn't have static

[unique wind]

save up money for longer so you can get something that's not crap

[high spoke]

i have those very basy

[rough jolt]

nah

[chilly umbra]

anyone here have a recommendation for 6 channels audio USB soundcard? Found one from Sabrent (USB SND8, which has long gone), DriverGenius and Startech (not available in Indonesia)

[molten lotus]

6 channels of what?

6 inputs, 6 outputs, surround output

also sound cards aren't usb

[chilly umbra]

this thing I mean

[lean grove]

For surround sound?

[chilly umbra]

Got a Logitech Z213 and Edifier R101V, want to repurpose it as surround, yea

been using two way splitters for it for 2 years now which is just

tho I've been mostly using the R101V as my main speakers especially after I decided to use the Z213 as sort of 'portable' speakers

but now that I'm gonna get an actual portable speaker, I'm going to use that Z213 again along with that R101V

[lean grove]

Sound laster x4 might fit the bill

Otherwise ping carmonben.

[chilly umbra]

any other budget options aside from those random chinese unnamed/ random brand 6 channels audio box?

also I know some might be reading this and like 'why don't just get a second hand 5.1 speakers and probably flip that speakers for a few bucks so you can get that actual 5.1 setup'
well I could, in fact I found a listing for a sony 5.1 setup for like, 450K IDR (30 bucks converted), problem is that when I have 30 bucks, if I got that 30 bucks from selling those two speakers I have, I'm kinda like do I want to spend money on something or just save it for something else

[lean grove]

@ocean pulsar your time has come

[ocean pulsar]

Youve got the wrong guy

I'm a big believer in random Chinese unnamed and popup brands

[chilly umbra]

well are those CM2062LX box is any good for this jank surround setup, and would it be reliable

[ocean pulsar]

You mean 6206?

Looks normal to me?

[chilly umbra]

yea that one, I always read it wrong lol

so it should be fine?

[ocean pulsar]

I don't like recommending stuff I haven't tried but I don't see a problem

[floral hinge]

I guess the HD 560s isn't known for its base 😂

[molten lotus]

just give it some time

if you are unaccustomed to neutral headphones adaptation will take some time

[floral hinge]

wdym

ahhh

isnt neutral good

[molten lotus]

it is

but your ears aren't able to discern the differences yet

keep using them for a day or two

then go back to your old headphones

[floral hinge]

Yeah I feel like too much bass is annoying and not enough bass is bad so I guess neutral means its in the middle alone with many other characteristics

[molten lotus]

you will notice significant differences

[floral hinge]

bet

ty

I like how they're not noise cancelling

in a sense

like I can hear everything around me but also its not distracting from the sound I am hearing

if that makes sense

[unique wind]

yeah it feels nice not being in a fish bowl

[floral hinge]

Literally

Its nice being able to hear if someone broke into your house

LOL

[unique wind]

and not having your mouth sounds and breathing be loud as fuck

[floral hinge]

literally

like hearing every noise your body makes

ew

or like if you swallow food or water or something

[molten lotus]

this is giving me flashbacks to the arctis pros

[floral hinge]

that loud ass gulp

[molten lotus]

Does that happen because your ears get accustomed to the silence

[unique wind]

it happens when your ears are plugged

which iems and closed back headphones do to some degree

[molten lotus]

Oh

That’s why I can hear my saliva when I wear earbuds

yes

What are some good iems

With a long cable

mest mk2

idk about the cable

(For under $100)

arias, I still don't know about the cable I haven't used it in ages

[floral hinge]

For a friend, whats a good pair of headphones that have good bass

[unique wind]

youre probably not gonna find a long cable

just get a 3.5mm extending cable

[molten lotus]

hd560s, dt880

[floral hinge]

for around $150

[molten lotus]

yeah

for around 150$

[molten lotus]

True

So what are some recommendations

[unique wind]

under $100 the two best options are probably 7hz salnotes zero at $25 and moondrop aria at like $70

but there's like 9999 iems under $100

you could shop for days

[molten lotus]

Hm

moondrop aria

Oh they have the ear wrap around which I like

7hz aren't good

[unique wind]

the stock cable on aria is really fucking bad

so theyre basically a $100 iem after you buy a new cable

[molten lotus]

I remember someone saying 7hz is good with some eartips

but by stock it isn't

[molten lotus]

eh?

its fine

[unique wind]

its unusable imo

it's extremely microphonic

[molten lotus]

how

oh

yeah I didn't use them a whole lot that's possible

cable itself is soft and nice though

[molten lotus]

To where if you touch it you can hear it in the iem?

[unique wind]

yeah

and when it brushes on your clothes it sucks

theyre also pretty heavy

[molten lotus]

Ye ha I’ve had headphones like that

are the titans lighter

[unique wind]

no clue

if it's your first iem id get 7hz salnotes zero or moondrop chu and see if you like iems first

[floral hinge]

What are some other options for a good bass headphone for $150

[unique wind]

define good

because 560s has incredible bass extension for its price

[molten lotus]

bass resolution or emphasis

[floral hinge]

May I ask the difference

[unique wind]

do you mean a headphone with a lot of bass

[molten lotus]

resolution is the bass quality

emphasis is the quantity

not exactly but close enough

[floral hinge]

I would assume like theater bass if that makes sense

something like that

[unique wind]

i wonder how these measure

[floral hinge]

perfect

those look like fish

[molten lotus]

don't think you are getting much better than dt880 or hd560s in terms of open bass for below 150$

[unique wind]

i think he wants like

skullcandy crusher evo on max whack mode

[molten lotus]

he wants r70x bass

but yeah that costs 350

[unique wind]

good actually wow

[molten lotus]

that's pretty alright damn

[unique wind]

not surprising i love tangzu

[molten lotus]

was that the one you owned

[unique wind]

nah i have these

i also have moondrop aria and 7hz salnotes zero

[unique wind]

oh the name cut off but it's tangzu zetian wu

[floral hinge]

does the adapter that comes with the hd 560s compromise the audio quality

i would assume they do

[molten lotus]

no

it isn't a minecraft redstone signal

[floral hinge]

LMAO

idk i just assumed something with the computers sound card or something super technical

[floral hinge]

i shoulda just tested it myself i have the damn thing LOL

[unique wind]

these might be the current budget iem champion

[molten lotus]

its possible for quality to deteriorate with plugging it into lots of stuff

[unique wind]

@molten lotus

[molten lotus]

but that is mostly for active items like vu meters or audio displays etc etc

or amplifiers

not passive stuff like adapters and cable extensions

unless its like 1km long

[floral hinge]

because I have mine plugged into the behringer UMC22

[molten lotus]

yeah that's fine

[unique wind]

tangzu must not make very much money with each sale

they give so much for $19

[floral hinge]

do you think its worth for my friend to buy the HD 560s along with the UMC22 or is there a better option

[molten lotus]

what is the point if the iems dont come with anime covers

[unique wind]

this unironically

[molten lotus]

akg k371 but they aren't open

they have emphasized bass he may like

but apart from bass emphasis he requested, it will be inferior to both hd560s and dt880

[floral hinge]

wdym

[unique wind]

their tuning is surprisingly good for a cheap closed back

craps on the dt770

[floral hinge]

also is it worth for him to get the umc22 since he also plans on getting a stand alone mic in the future

[molten lotus]

i mean

i don't know

depends on his motherboard

m track solo is a better interface for around the same sum though

[floral hinge]

B550 Tomahawk is what he has

[molten lotus]

that doesn't explain anything

I can't just mathematically calculate the sound of a motherboard

[floral hinge]

What would explain stuff

OHHH

LOL

[molten lotus]

he can just use an apple dongle if he wants

costs like 8$

[floral hinge]

but i mean for an XLR microphone it would be worth right

[molten lotus]

yeah sure

[floral hinge]

or is there a better option for an audio interface

[molten lotus]

m track solo

has asio

gain fixed to 0dB max

and better preamps I think

[floral hinge]

it is cheaper too

the behringer i have is $69 rn

on amazon atleast

that m track is $49

is there a difference between the two or do they just work the smae

same

[molten lotus]

it used to be 40$

[molten lotus]

m track is better

[floral hinge]

I bought mine for $65

how is it better may I ask

[molten lotus]

Which one ? akg k371 ? (sorry wasn't following the convo)

[unique wind]

yeah akg k371

[floral hinge]

these hd 560s are amazing i

its just so crisp

Also people complain about how tight they fit but i love it

[molten lotus]

Link me them?

[unique wind]

link me ur moms addy

[molten lotus]

Nah

[rigid elk]

snnheiser 569 for $77 steal?

[stone quartz]

I can spend what I need I just don't wanna dump a lot of money into something that is probably gonna break next year anyway like they always do. I'm just looking for headphones to wear when using my phone watching videos and browsing the internet. I'm not a music kinda guy

[lean grove]

I just don't wanna dump a lot of money into something that is probably gonna break next year anyway like they always do

your things are breaking because you're not spending enough money on them

cheap shit breaks

[summer flicker]

ive had an xm4 for I don't even know how long, 6+ years easily.

I literally sleep with it

I don't give a shit about it, and it still works with barely any signs of wear

just buy things that don't break and they won't break

[oak minnow]

Hello! Back from the deep web of lurking and am here to ask a question! (Like most people in my life, I only appear when I need something!) I am going on a trip and have 300$ cad gift card and wanted to ask what are the best true wireless earbuds? (I already own Aria's I just need something wireless.) As I am a part of this server of course sound quality is a priority but also ANC and battery life is important as I may only be able to charge once every couple days! I user an android.

[lean grove]

what are the best true wireless earbuds?
airpod pro 2's

[oak minnow]

2's are better than the third gen?

[lean grove]

yes

[lyric olive]

Are the Sennheiser ie300 good with a Audient EVO 4?

[stone quartz]

true. so at what price will the band not break into 2 near the ear

[lean grove]

well ideally you want something with a metal headband.

cheapest option in that price point is something from koss, but its not wireless

i'd get a pair of earbuds instead. theres a lot less material to break and you're getting more bang for your buck

[stone quartz]

really?

ive always stayed away from them because i thought there is no way they could be cheaper while being the same or better

although id be worried about the short battery life with ear buds and ear problems

[lean grove]

well think of it like this. how much material goes into making a headphone vs making an earbud?
how much space does it take to ship it?
earbuds are also a lot easier to tune so the cost of engineering also goes down quite a bit.

and you're right that the battery life is shortened, but with the case it is really quite comparable.

[fresh burrow]

anything?
I am thinking of connecting a computer, laptop, Switch (?), a phone
maybe

but primary it is the computer

[molten lotus]

@unique wind dis it? https://a.co/d/0OCSmfU

[leaden cloak]

Another option I came up with was another edifier pair R1280Ts. They might have a Bluetooth pair as well if you want that

Most people speakers won’t have more than I think 2-3 inputs so you can consider an audio switcher such as the Schiit SYS

[median frigate]

how much would u guys rate the moondrop-chu

[lean grove]

maybe a fifteen

[leaden cloak]

I think they’re pretty good for being $20

[fresh burrow]

oh hey, it's Nils. What's up o/

[median frigate]

out of?

[leaden cloak]

I’ll give them a 6

[median frigate]

should i pick the KZs or moondrop chu

[leaden cloak]

Well if those are your choices definitely pick the Chus

But uhh there was another IEM that came out recently which is supposedly better called the Zero something

Around the same price

[fresh burrow]

inputs as in devices right?

[leaden cloak]

Yeah

Input means whatever you want to make sound through your speakers

[fresh burrow]

yeah, I might use a combination of those.

thank you!

[leaden cloak]

You’re welcome!

[median frigate]

Kz Edx Pro is this any ebtter?

[leaden cloak]

All KZs suck

[median frigate]

ow

i came across this CCA

hows that?

the reviews seem to be saying ITS GREAT for every iem i search for

[leaden cloak]

CCA?

[median frigate]

ig 💀

wait

lemme put the link

https://www.headphonezone.in/products/cca-lyra

well ig since udk abt this brand ig it sucks

[leaden cloak]

Correct assumption

[median frigate]

ukw can u suggest me the best one under $30

i am not a huge audio guy just want a nice pair of iems

[leaden cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/Linsoul-7Hz-Zero-Composite-Detachable/dp/B0B76YF5CY

These are supposed to be pretty good

[median frigate]

should i switch to iem or in my jbl endurance wired fine?

i like having bass

[haughty girder]

cca cra

and cra+ for that matter

The two iems that accidentally were good

they're tuned to be more bassy but it's shockingly well balanced

can't say the same for just about every other kz/qkz/cca brand product

if you're looking for more neutral sound then by all means go salnotes zero, great iem even tho I hate its build

[unique wind]

tangzu wan’er is salnotes tuning without bad build

[lyric ingot]

Hey folks, I have a pair of nice Linn Kann MK2 bookshelf speakers, I'd like to get them hooked up to my PC and ability to play from phones over bluetooth. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'd like USB and bluetooth built in ideally, but they are kinda optional given that I can just hook the PC up another way, and buy a bluetooth dongle. Just in case it's relevant, I'm in the UK

[tender knoll]

Hello I am wanting to buy headset gaming for around 50 dollars

I am thinking hyper v2x

Thoughts (

[violet heron]

Any headphone will do

[molten lotus]

tell your mom that im canceling our plans

[molten lotus]

@molten lotus what would be the minimum price I have to pay for a good pair of headphones

define good

good as in

going from razer headphones, the difference is immediately noticeable

iems are fine

@molten lotus you know?

i mean

was looking at the tangzu wan'er

at 500$ I wouldn't mind not upgrading my setup further

dac/amp not included

at that point edition xs provides everything high end headphones can at a lower level but still good

below 200$ hd560s, he400se or dt880 250ohm is what id pick

[unique wind]

$150ish for headphones or $25 for iems

[molten lotus]

damn!

200-500 is really cursed because xs exists and anything below it is a significant downgrade

[sly fiber]

Does anyone know the aliexpress link to this?

[molten lotus]

i doubt thats real

[unique wind]

hd560s + tangzu wan'er + apple dongle = $200 audio setup

an upgrade from that would be hifiman edition xs like klaus said

but then youd want an actual amp so it's a little costly

[unique wind]

this way you get a neutral open back headphone and some iems with extra bass depending on your mood

[molten lotus]

hm

[lean grove]

That's mega cringe man

[leaden cloak]

Minimum $100 can get you a good pair. Id say $200 has some good options too

[unique wind]

many options in the 100-200 range

which is why i averaged it to 150

[random hound]

In the Market for new Headset
I currently have a Creative SoundBlaster H7, that is kinda falling apart and I could need some help finding something new (:
I'm looking for a new (USB) Headset for 100-200€. With full sound, (virtual) surround sound. A okay/great mic. I mostly love my current one because the Sound is full and clear, while also being great surround. Also it's comfortable
Currently thinking about the Creative SXFI AIR GAMER, because it has a lot of the thing I like and Creative has always made great headsets.
Or does anybody have any other recommendations?

[plain widget]

is headset a requirement or mic+headphone is fine

you'll get way more value out of separate mic and headphone

[unique wind]

sennheiser pc38x is the best gaming headset but it uses a heaphone jack instead of usb

[plain widget]

the only downside is that it's open back.

also the person seems to be from EU(uses euro after all) and that will add a lot of cost

[unique wind]

open back is a positive if you dont have an unusually noisy office/bedroom but youre right i dont know how pricing is in europe

[molten lotus]

is Dan Clark any good?

[lean grove]

They are good headphones with one massively major steaming pile of shit flaw.

[molten lotus]

not in the lower end of their headphone lineup

[lean grove]

Even in the low end, they're comfy and well built.

Tuning is sub-optimal. But it's not like they're bloated or piercing.

[random hound]

Well Headset would be great but not necessary.
I have a seperate Mic already so its fine
And yes I'm in Europe
Also I look at USB because I dont have a good DAC
And not a fan of Open Back because my PC is sometimes way to noisy and I live near a busy street

[leaden cloak]

You can get a cheap usb dac as well if you want along with some headphones

[molten lotus]

they aren't terrible, just not as good as other options

[lean grove]

Correct.

And. Well. They are terrible.

But only in one way.

[unique wind]

what is this flaw you keep teasing nils

[leaden cloak]

Hey schiit upgraded their dac to USB C. Nice

[unique wind]

holy schiit

[leaden cloak]

Good schiit

[unique wind]

the one flaw with their dac is gone

[lean grove]

They sound congested from the lack of dynamics

Like there's cotton in your ears

[haughty moon]

Sadly they changed the finish of the silver one ...
It won't fit the esthetic of the magni3+

[unique wind]

im convinced my schiit dac will probably still be working after im dead

[plain widget]

if you really need closed back, AKG k361/371 is basically ur only option fro headphones.

if u care about sound quality that is, if not we'll grab anything really, all gaming headsets are trash

or you could get some IEMs

[leaden cloak]

Oh really? That sucks

[haughty moon]

Totally yes
So I should try to find a used modi3+ then

[chrome island]

I mean, Cloud 2 and MH751/752 aren't trash, not great, but also not easy to dismiss at their price points

[lean grove]

Mh751 are discontinued

[plain widget]

mehhhhhh

[chrome island]

You can still buy them new 🤷‍♂️

[leaden cloak]

If you’re getting a new dac, you might as well get the new modi because yeah. If you care about aesthetics though, yeah I suppose

[chrome island]

Tell me when AKG will improve the build quality of K361/371 😜

[leaden cloak]

They still list them on their site. When did they discontinue them?

[random hound]

IEMs?
TO be honest I am not a audiophile guy. I justlike the Soundquality of my Soundblaster/my TrueWireless Momentum 3 or my WH-1000XM4s
I like the virtual surround sound and that they are full

[chrome island]

Idk if CM has discontinued the, but Takstar still makes the micless version

[lean grove]

Hmmm

Might be low stock

[leaden cloak]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe

[chrome island]

Carmo, mate, is it confirmed that they discontinued it?

[plain widget]

IEMs=airpods pro but with wires.

[chrome island]

urgh, that's so wrong

[leaden cloak]

IEM stands for In Ear Monitor

You may know them as earbuds. While the term is incorrect, that’s what they are called most of the time

[plain widget]

go back to the department of pedantry please

[chrome island]

Earbuds is a thing of it's own, it's just that the clarification of terminology is kind of a mess

[haughty moon]

Well for now I'm using a dongle with the conexan don't remember the model of the chip ... bit better than the modi2 to my ear

[leaden cloak]

Oh the modi 2 is garbage

[haughty moon]

Might just keep using the dongle and sell the modi2

[chrome island]

I mean what you said is like saying that a car is a McLaren F1

[ocean pulsar]

bhphoto says it is

[chrome island]

fffffffffffffffff

Well, Takstar still makes them, so probably someone will pick them up

[leaden cloak]

Then I guess B&H doesn’t sell it anymore but cooler masters site leads to an Amazon page where they are being sold brand new

[ocean pulsar]

not by coolermaster tho

they are working through stock but the 2 is no longer orderable

the 1 still is

but the prices are so inflated its awful

[chrome island]

Yeah, MH751 is 100eur here

it used to be 65ish

[leaden cloak]

Oh so the mh752 is discontinued

Not the 1

[ocean pulsar]

yep

[plain widget]

okay, I wanna hear ur quick explanation of what IEMs are to a person that has never heard the term.

[leaden cloak]

That’s a car yes. A type of car

AirPods Pro are a type of IEM

[ocean pulsar]

yea theres nothing wrong with saying a car is a mclaren f1 shaped object lel

[leaden cloak]

It’s got wheels, an engine, a steering wheel, it goes nyoooom

[ocean pulsar]

some cars go whrr or brr or brap tho

[leaden cloak]

The only difference is it looks like a space ship and has no roof

[ocean pulsar]

the f1 has a roof

[leaden cloak]

Well the car does but not the formula one

[ocean pulsar]

in fact the f1 looks like a fairly tame sports car by modern standards

mclaren f1 is a specific model

[leaden cloak]

But the point it you can totally classify AirPods Pro as an IEM

Just because they’re wireless and made by a fruit doesn’t mean they are what they are

Iems come in all shapes and sizes and forms

[ocean pulsar]

yap

now saying airpods with a cable are an iem would be wrong

[unique wind]

iem is just a pretentious name for earbuds

[ocean pulsar]

nope

earbuds and iems are entirely separate things

[unique wind]

explain why

[ocean pulsar]

airpods are earbuds and airpod pros are iems

[plain widget]

earbuds don't seal

[ocean pulsar]

^

[unique wind]

i guess 95% of people use the wrong term then

because all earphones get called earbuds

except audiophiles who use iems

[ocean pulsar]

i mean any iem can be an earbud if used wrong enough lol

[unique wind]

i hate the hard plastic earpod design apple has

the old one

[lean grove]

All of these words can and are used interchangeably

[unique wind]

it was so uncomfortable

[leaden cloak]

I used those semi recently and I gave up using them

[unique wind]

thats the opinion i share as well because even manufacturers refer to earphones with silicone tips that seal as earbuds

[leaden cloak]

Yeah I don’t think it matters either unless you want to be accurate

[ocean pulsar]

i mean welcome to language in general

[unique wind]

language is by design flexible

we invent new slang every day

if u tell ur girl she actually doesnt have earbuds because they dont have a separate tip that seals shes gonna block you

[lean grove]

Unless you want to be pedantic.

[leaden cloak]

That too

[lean grove]

It's only important if the term you're using is so incorrect that it actually causes confusion.

Everyone has the same thing in mind when you say earbuds or iem.

[leaden cloak]

There was one case where a guy actually wanted earbuds/earphones but everyone else was talking about the ones that got the tips

[chrome island]

In ear monitor is a type of a headphone that you stick into your ears canal.

[plain widget]

and which seals using foam or silicone tips.

still , giving an example is simpler to understand

and even ur hq comparison, an F1 is definitely a still a car

[chrome island]

My example actually was kinda off from the point I wanted to make, IEMs can be wireless or wired and just saying airpods doesn't mean that it's an IEM as Carmon already explained

[plain widget]

mmkay indeed they can be wireless

though tbh, most of the wireless iems are meh

except the already well known big brands for some reason

they managed to make pretty good sound

[chrome island]

I agree, but then again you can make any IEM a wireless IEM, just FiiO UTWS

[unique wind]

fiio utws5 is great

[plain widget]

yeah

would be hard with ety tho

[plain widget]

unless u use a 90 degree adaptor

[chrome island]

I mean QCY T5 is fine, Mobvoi Earbuds ANC are fine, Moondrop is actually a bit more meh than these 2, galaxy buds/+/pro/2 are fine... They aren't the best perfomers, but they are convenient

[plain widget]

ye wireless is convinient af

[unique wind]

the case for the utws5 is massive which would usually annoy me but they fit totally fine in my work pants

[chrome island]

My UTWS3 has some stupid quirks that get annoying fast, but overall I didn't expect it to be this good

[unique wind]

i wouldnt put them in jeans tho

[chrome island]

As for ety's they are hard to use period, well unless you want to experience penetration of your ears😁

@ocean pulsar which IEMs do you use with your UTWS?

[molten lotus]

what are they

[plain widget]

really person to person dependant

some can use them for an entire day without issues

[molten lotus]

you get used to them

[unique wind]

👽

[chrome island]

TWS Adapters for pretty much any IEM with a removable cable

[molten lotus]

no I mean what are the annoying quirks you mentioned

[plain widget]

i can use them for 1-2 hours no problem(and i take them in just to go to the bathroom and whatnot, then i can use them for another 1-2 hours)

[chrome island]

I mean you get used to anything, even Beats Studio

[molten lotus]

I meant the comfort

[unique wind]

[molten lotus]

you are naturally sensitive to most things in your ear

[unique wind]

my ears are ran through

[chrome island]

Oh, well randomly can drop audio for a few seconds, randomly won't shut down when you put them in case, sometimes won't turn on when you take them out of the case

[molten lotus]

I have had the first two with bt20s pros

but not the last one

really weird that one

[unique wind]

connection is sometimes glitchy with my utws5 as well

they usually connect to my creative bt-w4 dongle automatically

but on my laptop and phone i have to manually connect

and sometimes when i do that theyll connect, disconnect, then actually connect

other than that theyre great

[plain widget]

idk tbh that's the same with my airpods pro

[unique wind]

bluetooth is just kinda ass that's how it goes

[plain widget]

maybe that's just general bluetooth shenanigans

[ocean pulsar]

i dont own utws5s, i use salnotes zero with utws3

[unique wind]

i should probably start using my salnotes on my utws as well

instead of zetian wu

ill get longer battery life

[chrome island]

Yeah, that was what I was referring to 😅

[chrome island]

Yeah, but it was less annoying with my Mobvoi Eabuds ANC that honestly don't sound good enough that I could move back to them at any point, it's just that my NF Audio NA2's are definitely better sounding 😄

[plain widget]

i found out that if u just take the airpods slowly out of the case( as in you open the case, wait 5 seconds. take one airbud. wait 5 seconds. take the other and close the case) and also slowly put them back in they always turn on and off correctly

and if bluetooth is starting to act up just pause ur music or whatever for 5 seconds and it'll also fix itself

[chrome island]

at the same time, I never did anything like that and my Mobvoi Eabuds ANC 97% of the time shut down and turned on properly, only those 3% of the time I needed to place them in the case once more to get them to do what I want

[plain widget]

yeah, i also have had like 90-95% success rate with my APP, but i was just annoyed enough with these 5-10% that i am now doing the slower route and never in the past like 4-5 months have they incorrectly turned off or on

maybe that's the same for the utws3

[chrome island]

Eh maybe

[fresh burrow]

so, from what I searched, it is basically if someone decides to take their IEMs (from what I heard IEMs sound great), and convert them into TWS right?

So, in your opinion, for someone in the know, what should one get? a TWS? or an IEM with FiiO UTWS?

[ocean pulsar]

as always it depends
if you want better sound quality, anything even decent with utws = better sound quality than any consumer tws
but all of the practicalities are limited and the utws have fewer features

also if you want cheap, you can get awesome sounding iem+tws combo for under 50 that is solidly on par with the top end consumer stuff
i like cca cra+ and az09 pro combo that i have now

[unique wind]

tws: noise cancelling, passthrough, smaller size

iem with utws5: sound quality

your choice

i choose using iems because i don’t care about noise cancelling

[stone quartz]

This logo looks really similar to the Meridian Audio logo

[tiny scarab]

should i get salnotes zero of truthear hola

[unique wind]

tangzu wan’rer

[unique wind]

it’s salnotes tuning with better build and packaging

[normal cove]

Guys how much should i spend on a dual speaker for my pc?

Ik pricing is subjective but im unsure

[molten lotus]

350$ imo

[lean grove]

$1000

[unique wind]

that entirely depends on how much money you make

so it's up to you

[normal cove]

Okay

[unique wind]

if you give us a budget of what youre willing to spend we can give recommendations

[normal cove]

Lets say 150 cuz i cant go 350 lol

[unique wind]

do you live in america

[normal cove]

Nah uk

[unique wind]

edifier mr4 or edifier r1700bt depending on how much space you have

[normal cove]

Alright ill have a look at them

Im not sure either i might just get some cheap working ones

You reckon 50 would be good?

Or too low?

Oooh they look nice

[normal cove]

Which one is better audio quality wise

[unique wind]

1700

but theyre a lot bigger considering theyre going on a desk

if you have the space theyre the better speakers

[normal cove]

Alright thanks

[unique wind]

the bts model has support for adding a subwoofer in the future

the standard bt doesnt

up to you if thats worth the extra 10 or 20 bucks

[normal cove]

Ive also seen the r1280T

They look nicer

Any difference?

[normal cove]

Whats a subwoofer

Lol

[unique wind]

a big speaker that specifically makes bass

[normal cove]

Ooh

[normal cove]

These?

[unique wind]

r1280t is the middleground between the mr4 and 1700bt

[normal cove]

Ooh right

Okay

Makes sense

[unique wind]

theyd probably work well for a desk without being huge

[normal cove]

R1700BTS is 140

Not bad

But im not sure if i will need a subwoofer or not

[unique wind]

if it's only 10 quid more id get them so the option is there

[normal cove]

R1700bt is only 90

On overclockers

For some reason

[unique wind]

oh dang

can you send that listing

i want to see if it's legit

[normal cove]

Alright

I havent checked it i seen it on google maybe its wrong

Yeah wrong model lol

They linked it as r1700bt

[unique wind]

that wouldve been a really good deal

[normal cove]

107 from this site called cbc

Cpc*

Okay ill look into it more

[unique wind]

are these available in the uk?

[normal cove]

I need to check out a subwoofer first lol

Damn it looks bigg

[unique wind]

the big one is the subwoofer

it goes on the floor below your desk

[normal cove]

Cant get em in uk

[unique wind]

ah rip

[normal cove]

Yeahh i seen it before

Just didnt know what it was

Okay so you say r1700bt?

R1280t as middle ground

Fair

@unique wind what subwoofer would i add to the r1700bts ideally?

[lean grove]

Ideally you could get a rythmik or a rel

[unique wind]

subwoofers are way out of your budget range atm

it's just a future proofing measure

[normal cove]

Lmao

How much would it cost tho?

Like 300?

Cuz thats what im seeing

I wouldnt need it if it costs more than like a 100

[unique wind]

you can find ones for like 150 but theyre not exceptionally good

3-500 is the starting point for a good sub

[normal cove]

Okay ig im better off without one

Thanks

[molten lotus]

They're gonna be like 2-3 times the price of the speaker for the cheapest ones

[lean grove]

And?

[molten lotus]

It's dumb

[lean grove]

Only if you're not living in the ideal world

[cobalt sparrow]

Anybody know what this is? Like an album, ik its a cd

[lean grove]

Put it in

Also if only there was really tiny writing on the circumference that you could read

[cinder flax]

My first thought was "heck, this disc is rotted to hell and back!"
But then I noticed it's just the print on the label lol
In case anyone here hasn't seen a CD with Disc-rot yet, here ya go: (there's like legit holes in the top layers of this CD-R where it started rotting)

Surprisingly still reads fine in VLC outside of a few crackling noises at the very end of the last track...

[civic beacon]

Appears to be a music CD, specifically, this one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/115552189707

[fresh burrow]

I guess that part of the reason why audio stuff is so hard in my view.
if you think that PC info on parts are complicated? Audio stuff is like dark souls

[unique wind]

yeah audio is annoying as fuck

[weak rapids]

Sm7b distance: right up at mouth, fist away, hangloose?

[bitter hollow]

the capsule is mounted pretty far back, so you can have it pretty close without issue

[weak rapids]

I just absolutely fucking despise the proximity effect lok

Wish more mics had variable d technology

[bitter hollow]

yeah, sm7b capsule is far back enough that iirc it doesn't get as much proximity effect

[weak rapids]

Ive actually got a recording going while im playing civ switching between right next and fist every 15mins to see which works best with my voice lol

[bitter hollow]

you could also just do that with a quick sample

[weak rapids]

I could but i could also do this lol

[silver cypress]

so i encountered a problem with my earbuds: up until yesterday everything was working fine, but yesterday the left bud went ultra quiet. in attempts of investigation of what could be the problem, i noticed that it's "broken" only with the eartip on, without one, it sounds just as it's supposed to. i tried swapping out different eartips, cleaning them completely, nothing helped. im stuck thinking, please help

realme buds air pro are the ones i have

[weak rapids]

curious which one sounds better to you guys

[haughty moon]

first one for sure

[sudden cypress]

Hey everyone, I’m not sure if this is the best place to ask but could anyone assist me with a question about headphones? I’m looking for advice on buying over-the-ear headphones but not spend like a ton of money or get something bad, and I have very little experience buying headphones so I don’t know what to go for. So if anyone could help id really appreciate it, if not if anyone could point me towards where to find someone to ask id appreciate that as well.

[lean grove]

how much money are you comfortable spending and how do you plan on using these?

[sudden cypress]

I’d plan on using them for like traveling and like kind of a daily use thing when I’m not using ear buds if that makes sense. I’d be fine spending like idk maybe a couple hundred

[lean grove]

traveling, so primarily you'd want comfort, isolation, with some expectation of durability

[sudden cypress]

Yeah that sounds right

[lean grove]

hmmm.

i dont really spend too much time looking at those types since i prefer in-ears or cheap stuff for on the go.
like i got a pair of beat up old koss porta pros that i use that have lasted me for ages.

[sudden cypress]

Well I already got air pods so I don’t really need ear buds

[lean grove]

yeah

i see people recommend jbl tune 710's and akg n700NC all the time

[sudden cypress]

Ok thanks

[dry stratus]

Wonder what one could do with physically modifying the shape of their ears to change sound

[lean grove]

Probably nothing good

[dry stratus]

Try it

Elf ears or smth

[molten lotus]

hd560s

[formal tundra]

dt 990s or cloud ii

[unique wind]

if you’re looking in the dt 990 price range i recommend:

dt880, akg k371, sennheiser hd560s, and hifiman he400se

[molten lotus]

I second that.

[rare hamlet]

What’s a good closed back headset for up to 400 dollars? This will be for music usually rock/classical but occasionally hip hop. Ideally I’ll use it as a pc headset as well with a modmic

[rare hamlet]

I’m also open to getting an amp as well

[outer warren]

Looking for a replacement for my DT770 since my dog destroyed it

I have a USB amp too. Recommend me good headphones. No microphone needed. If you recommend trash like razor I'll block you

Max price would be 150

[quiet ether]

i gotchu bro

[outer warren]

For gaming and music

Sorry I forgot to add that

[quiet ether]

they are wireless but can be wired with aux cable
highest decibel ive gotten is 111
great bass
insanely good for the price
great surround
high fidelidy

https://amzn.eu/d/gD8IS5s

[thin kernel]

sennheisers, as much as you can afford?

[thin kernel]

bro this is some grade a trash

[quiet ether]

ive used em daily for over a year

[outer warren]

150€

[thin kernel]

you can use a garbage bin every day for a decade, doesn't mean it's anything but a pile of trash

[outer warren]

Not interested in wireless.

[quiet ether]

they are wired too

comes with wire

[outer warren]

I want good quality bro

[quiet ether]

this is those exact same headphones at the opposite corner of my room to where i am on max volume

[thin kernel]

HD 559

comes in well under budget, a respected open-back audiophile-grade headphone and uh

isn't amazon garbage lol

[outer warren]

Recommend me some good ones

[thin kernel]

HD559

just did

[outer warren]

I'm looking for closed headphones

Like the DT770

[dry stratus]

K361 .-.

[nova wagon]

bruh i just about to recommend the on sale 560s https://headphones.com/products/sennheiser-hd-560s?_pos=1&_psq=hd+560s&_ss=e&_v=1.0

but yea, k371

tho build wise its a massive downgrade from the 770

[dry stratus]

“Great bass”
Yeah no
Probably to consumer ears, aka lower quality louder bass = better

[outer warren]

Not bad

Is the AKG K-371 better

[dry stratus]

Depends on who you ask, but about the same

[outer warren]

Is there even a better one ?

[outer warren]

What you mean

[nova wagon]

Like the construction of the k371 feels way cheaper than the 770

[outer warren]

Is the quality good enough?

[nova wagon]

https://youtu.be/ysRp2mzGHZE

[outer warren]

Which one is better

[nova wagon]

Prob yea, if you only use it on desktop

[outer warren]

My budget is 150€

[nova wagon]

K371 should land around that price range

[outer warren]

Yeah, are there better options still ?

[nova wagon]

There is a comparable option, the nth 100 that's featured in the video

[tawny python]

Apple usb c adapter randomly decided to stop working

On my IEMs theres so much impedance and static it sounds like a microwave

[lyric ice]

Guys what headsets do you recommend if i want to upgrade from HD6xxs

[dry stratus]

None, I would recommend just buying something with different sound signature, and continue using both

[lyric ice]

Any recommendations?

[dry stratus]

Depends on budget

A true 6xx “upgrade” would be like 1800-3500
(A zmf headphone for example)

Considering 6x0 midrange is what one would use 6x0 for specifically

If you just want something that’s technically better, the answer going to be different

But it won’t do everything as nicely as the 6xx

[unique wind]

[lean grove]

What don't you like about the 6xx

[lyric ice]

Its not that i dont like it, in fact I like it a lot but i though, what if there is something out there that could impress me more

[lean grove]

Hd800 is pretty impressive

[dry stratus]

Budget would be nice to know tho

Headphones go from like 25 to 60k

[molten lotus]

edition xs

he1000

hd800

[lucid obsidian]

is the element 3 amp+dac worth its salt and price? would rather have 1 unit for both. finally sold off a bunch of those other crap headphones. Hifi XS should be here next week too!

[molten lotus]

aio dac amps are generally not good

not sure about element 3 but element 1 and 2 was not good

[civic terrace]

anyone have recommendations for good headphones, I have a very specific need I'm trying to fill. I want to get a pair of wireless headphones that I can use for everything, gaming, travel, zoom meetings in a coffee shop. I don't want a boom mic though which makes it hard to find a good pair. They have to be light so ideally under 270 grams. I am willing to spend up to 400 bucks for them. I got a razor barracuda headset and it is good except for the fact that it is too heavy at 300 grams, which is why I'm looking for another one.

[lean grove]

first thing that comes to midn thats that light is the hd6xx

[tender frost]

But the 6xx aint exactly a travel pair of headphones

[civic terrace]

ya, doesn't look like they are wireless either but I could be looking at the wrong ones

I was considering going more of the travel route because they don't have boom mics but I'm majorly concerned about latency for gaming because I do game often

[unique wind]

i dont think there's any possible combination of lightweight, low latency wireless, and good audio quality for an over ear headphone

you can however do that with in ear monitors

you can have lightweight and low latency but it wont have good audio quality because itll be a gaming headset

[civic terrace]

do you think id have a better time getting a wireless gaming with a boom for like 150 and a traveling headest for another 150?

[zenith spear]

non gaming headphones and a dedictated mic are a good combo

[unique wind]

carrying two sets of headphones kinda defeats the goal of lightweight and portable

[civic terrace]

I only really game at home, the travel part would just be songs on my phone or zoom meetings

[zenith spear]

wait werent you in the techsource server?

[molten lotus]

i think

[civic terrace]

what headphone combos do you guys use then?

[molten lotus]

is it the place with the red icon

i got banned from there for politics

[zenith spear]

yes

i got banned there yesterday cause someone that im in a private server with used a emote they didnt like

[molten lotus]

very trigger happy those admins

[zenith spear]

fr

[tender frost]

IEMs on the go, good headphones at home

[civic terrace]

what's the name of your home headphones if you have good ones?

[tender frost]

Audeze LCD-2

[molten lotus]

n700nc mk2 for portability

if you need bluetooth and anc that is

[civic terrace]

dang, the audeze look insane. I wish I had that budget

[molten lotus]

can you spend 600$

500 for headphones 100 for amplifier

[civic terrace]

600 is a bit over budget for me

[molten lotus]

define a bit

[civic terrace]

I want to stick to 400 bucks

[molten lotus]

very cursed

since xs costs 500$ and is significantly better than any other headphone below it

id say to stick to like idk 150ish dollars if you wont be spending 500-600

[tender frost]

Pocket the rest for idk a cool lunch at a michelin starred hotel or something lol

[molten lotus]

yeah

[civic terrace]

XD

[molten lotus]

get hd560s and call it a day

[civic terrace]

alright, thank you all for the suggestions. I'll def look into all of those options more

[unique wind]

hifiman mid xs

[molten lotus]

on god

[unique wind]

bass boosted ananda with a less secure headband

[molten lotus]

they are pretty different

[unique wind]

how

[molten lotus]

stage mostly

[unique wind]

i mean the XS is undoubtedly better

but it's just an ananda made cheaper and better not a totally different headphone

[molten lotus]

that is just what frequency response graphs say

which are inherently flawed and differ

[unique wind]

i wonder if there are photographs comparing their drivers

im curious how similar the ananda stealth and xs are internally

[molten lotus]

I wouldn't expect them to be too different

[unique wind]

because it looks like ananda stealth + 5db subbass and $200 cheaper

[molten lotus]

wouldn't be surprised if they are the exact same driver

[unique wind]

which is good

[molten lotus]

people prefer one over the other frequently

especially with the release of ananda stealth

[unique wind]

yeah that's not surprising

[lean grove]

what graphs are you looking at

[unique wind]

5db is a huge difference

[molten lotus]

5dB sounds unrealistic

I know the bass is different but that sounds like too much