audio-tech

[ocean pulsar]

i did

[molten lotus]

I am looking at the same page

also

representation

[ocean pulsar]

show me where it says it cant be transmitted physically

[molten lotus]

An audio signal is a representation of sound, typically using either a changing level of electrical voltage for analog signals, or a series of binary numbers for digital signals. Audio signals have frequencies in the audio frequency range of roughly 20 to 20,000 Hz, which corresponds to the lower and upper limits of human hearing

[ocean pulsar]

typically

[molten lotus]

Audio signals may be synthesized directly, or may originate at a transducer such as a microphone, musical instrument pickup, phonograph cartridge, or tape head. Loudspeakers or headphones convert an electrical audio signal back into sound.

"" Loudspeakers or headphones convert an electrical audio signal back into sound. ""

I have that wikipedia page open since like an hour ago

you are literally taking things out of context to prove yourself correct

[ocean pulsar]

and where does it say that sound isnt a physical representation of an audio signal

[molten lotus]

this conversation is so fruitless, you know that you are so wrong yourself to the point where you reserve to take things out of context and provide incomplete descriptions

[ocean pulsar]

thats what sound is

[ocean pulsar]

you are reading examples and taking that to be the definition

[molten lotus]

its not like you have a better source

[ocean pulsar]

TYPICALLY means its an example in case you didnt know

[molten lotus]

lol

it says typically for that sentence

the latter there is nothing about being typical or % based

[ocean pulsar]

so a 17hz tone sent through a wire isnt an audio signal?
even you dont believe that lmao

[molten lotus]

what says it isn't?

or when did I

[ocean pulsar]

the sentence you are citing

[molten lotus]

I don't follow

17khz is a representation of sound of the frequency spectrum

it just doesn't naturally exist by itself

similar to the synthesizers which are exampled in the cited paragraph

which manufacture and modify sound

[ocean pulsar]

but a 17hz sound that is transmitted is a sound signal

at 17hz

and it is a sound

[molten lotus]

it says roughly

[ocean pulsar]

yep

so what medium does it say it has to be in?

[molten lotus]

remember how much you paid attention to when it said "typically," you can do the same now

[ocean pulsar]

yep

[molten lotus]

it entails it

doesn't directly say it

"Loudspeakers or headphones convert an electrical audio signal back into sound. " means that it wasn't initially a sound

it was a sound signal

and this also entails that a sound is different from an audio signal

if you disagree with this it would be like saying "where in wikipedia does it say that an apple isn't a pear"

[ocean pulsar]

it actually does say it

[molten lotus]

change nouns

rinse and repeat

[ocean pulsar]

but it never classifies an audio signal as requiring electricity

[molten lotus]

yeah

do you know what it also doesn't classify as an audio signal

literal sounds

[ocean pulsar]

so what is a sound

[bitter hollow]

I mean, a digital audio signal travelling through fiber optics isn't electrical

[molten lotus]

it is?

[ocean pulsar]

no its not

light is not electricity

[molten lotus]

oh my bad

anyways

it doesn't say that it has to be in an electrical form

[ocean pulsar]

exactly

[molten lotus]

but it particularly mentions converting an audio signal back to audio

hence entailing it isn't initially in the form of a sound

prior to going through a transducer

[ocean pulsar]

do you know what a transducer does?

[leaden cloak]

https://youtube.com/shorts/tBxPT2HznVY?feature=share

[molten lotus]

makes a form of power into another

could be wrong about the power part

a headphone driver is a transducer

[ocean pulsar]

energy not power but close enough

[leaden cloak]

I tried this, it works pretty well. I made my speakers Spotify connect/Airplay speakers

[molten lotus]

anyways

tackle the argument itself rather than my wording of it

[ocean pulsar]

the problem is your argument is based on a misunderstanding of words

so the wording is very important so I dont confuse you

[molten lotus]

if an audio signal becomes a sound, then it means it isn't initially a sound

as stated

what is wrong with this?

[ocean pulsar]

the premise

that a sound cant be a signal

[molten lotus]

it can be

[ocean pulsar]

you imply that you dont think sound can be a signal

[molten lotus]

but this is a technical term

and a scientific one

so like i initially said

audio that has signal properties is not an audio signal

the combination of those words has a technical definition

[ocean pulsar]

but audio that is a signal is an audio signal

[molten lotus]

it isn't

[ocean pulsar]

it does not matter what form the audio is in its still a signal if its a signal

[molten lotus]

it does

this is a technical term

you cannot pick at the words audio and signal as different things

you can

but then it wouldn't be commenting on the technical term which is an audio signal

it would be unrelated

[ocean pulsar]

so what does a record hold

[molten lotus]

groves.

and audiotory information

[ocean pulsar]

and what is encoded into those grooves

[molten lotus]

.

[ocean pulsar]

what is encoded into the groves of a record

[molten lotus]

an audio signal

[ocean pulsar]

so what happens if you take a needle (just a needle) and put it in the grove of the record

What happens to the needle

[molten lotus]

causes friction

which causes vibration

and the vibration is an audio signal

[ocean pulsar]

so what happens if you instead of using a needle you use a larger object like a piece of paper

[molten lotus]

same thing

[bitter hollow]

sound is vibrations tho

[ocean pulsar]

so you would say that the paper itself vibrates because it carries an audio signal?

[molten lotus]

yes

[ocean pulsar]

so the vibration of the paper is an audio signal

[molten lotus]

yes I have already said this

[ocean pulsar]

https://youtu.be/0mTepIBykd4?t=191

that vibration is sound

[molten lotus]

the paper acts as a transducer

in this case

[ocean pulsar]

nope

[molten lotus]

you need something to return the vibrations back into the air

[ocean pulsar]

the needle is the transducer

[molten lotus]

the needle is paper

hence transducer

[ocean pulsar]

nope

the needle is actually metal in this case

[molten lotus]

oh my bad

anyways

[ocean pulsar]

but the paper is just vibrating with the needle

[molten lotus]

the paper is the transducer

I can take a needle and scratch it over records

[ocean pulsar]

no its not

[molten lotus]

it wont be audible

[ocean pulsar]

you said the audio signal is the vibration

theres no conversion from anything else

[molten lotus]

lets assume this is the case

[ocean pulsar]

the transducer is the needle

[molten lotus]

in this case the needle is the transducer

it makes an audio signal and vibrates air with it to an audible form

[ocean pulsar]

the paper is actually the part that has the sound

[molten lotus]

hence making sound

[molten lotus]

so like I said

[ocean pulsar]

again making a mistake there

[molten lotus]

the paper is a transducer

as well as the needle

my bad

[ocean pulsar]

the sound itself is in the paper

[molten lotus]

the sound itself is the vibrations the paper gives to the air

[ocean pulsar]

no

[molten lotus]

the paper is the transducer that energizes the air

[ocean pulsar]

again no

[molten lotus]

and another transducer is the metal part retrieving audio information

[ocean pulsar]

a transducer converts energy

the paper is just receiving it

the air is moving with the paper

[molten lotus]

and vibrating air with it

[ocean pulsar]

but the paper itself is producing the sound

even though you said the paper had the audio signal

thats because the audio signal transmitted via vibrations is sound

[molten lotus]

I thought the needle was also paper, that is why I said so

that is my mistke

[molten lotus]

you run it through a transducer to make it back into a sound

if it isn't then short circuit your ears with dac +/- outputs

since that is also sound

also definition of sound is vibrations that travel through air

[ocean pulsar]

yep

[molten lotus]

not vibrations that travels through solids

so in the previous form it is still a signal

not a sound

[ocean pulsar]

actually incorrect

[molten lotus]

yeah it is

my bad

[bitter hollow]

nah, you can hear underwater

sound is just vibrations

[molten lotus]

yeah I already admitted to my mistake

still

[ocean pulsar]

https://youtu.be/eLTrTj2Nmzw?t=118

[molten lotus]

sound is something that you can need to hear through a medium

in this case the air is still the medium

if you were to lean your ear against the paper it would be your solid parts that are the medium

since there is no medium present in an audio signal to you in an audible form, it is not a sound yet

in the examples you sent me the paper is the transducer

and the air is the medium

[ocean pulsar]

and what is that medium carrying?

[molten lotus]

at that point, sound

if it has not gone through a transducer to make it audible to you

audio signal

[ocean pulsar]

how could iron carry sound

[molten lotus]

I have objectively the best taste in music

carmon

take a needle

drag it on a record

is it producing sound

[ocean pulsar]

i say yes but you dont

[molten lotus]

yeah

can you hear the sound

[ocean pulsar]

nope

[molten lotus]

actually I an not sure where I am going with this particular example

lmao

anyways, it isn't considered a sound until it is transduced to an audible form

[ocean pulsar]

why not?

just because you cant hear a sound doesnt mean it didnt happen

[molten lotus]

well not an audible form but in a form that requires you to actually hear it through a medium

and that form includes a transducer

[ocean pulsar]

so if you dont hear it its not a sound?
thats complete bs

[molten lotus]

I said the opposite of that immediately afterwards correcting myself

[ocean pulsar]

you worded it wrong then

[molten lotus]

yes I agree

anyways there needs to be realistic parameters to what you are saying

if I push sand into a hole it isn't an earthquake

[ocean pulsar]

actually it would register

[molten lotus]

the features of the reasons would

the result wouldn't

[ocean pulsar]

no it literally would register

[molten lotus]

oh right

[ocean pulsar]

seismometers are extremely sensitive so they can detect earthquakes that happen on the other side of the globe

[molten lotus]

I forgot 0.1 magnitude earthquakes exist

and even lower

[ocean pulsar]

so any tiny disturbance would be measured as an earthquake

thats ignoring the point tho

ok heres an idea

so lets say we have a wire transmitting an audio signal

[molten lotus]

anyways

I googled the issue to make it simpler

[ocean pulsar]

electrical wire for arguments sake

[molten lotus]

here

"
We will start by describing what vibration is in general and then go on to describe the human perceptible forms.

Any physical quantity which oscillates in time is a vibration or an oscillation. For example, a disturbance in a lattice of atoms gives rise to an oscillatory displacement from the mean position, which propagates along the dimensions of length. Taking such an example in gas, we talk about a disturbance in pressure. Such a change gives rise to a pressure wave through the gas. If we are looking at a disturbance or oscillation in fields, it gives rise to electromagnetic waves. These are only a few examples. A vibration can be manifested in any of the physical quantities.

Coming to the ones we can perceive, we give these vibrations different names. The perceivable pressure waves in air are sound, the electromagnetic waves that we can see are different colours in visible light. Thus, sound is a smaller part of vibrations that exist around us. Hope this clarifies the confusion.
"

[ocean pulsar]

yep

but that sound is often a sound signal

[molten lotus]

not if we take human standards into account

[ocean pulsar]

so lets say we have a wire

[molten lotus]

which the prior description an audio signal uses

since if it didn't it would be wrong

[ocean pulsar]

thats a sound not a sound signal

a sound signal is transmitted

a sound is just an event that propagates sound signals through a medium

but thats besides the point

klaus

wire

carrying sound signal electrically

[molten lotus]

okay well?

[ocean pulsar]

so the signal exists at every point along the wire

right?

[molten lotus]

by the way i would like to add new information to this before we go on

you can give your example afterwards

a sound needs to have reception

audible

a vibration does not

and audible is not exclusive to humans

[ocean pulsar]

a sound is just vibration

[molten lotus]

yeah but it needs to be audible

[ocean pulsar]

why?

[molten lotus]

if not it is a vibration

[molten lotus]

I don't know ask robert katz

production, propagation, reception, and detection

features of sound

I didn't come to that comment by myself off of hearing these terms though by the way

[ocean pulsar]

so a sound has to be carrying information right?

[molten lotus]

I didn't say that

since vibrations also do

they carry information of something happening

[ocean pulsar]

https://www.scienceworld.ca/resource/sound/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0076695X08602380

https://www.scienceworld.ca/resource/sound-vibration-vibration-vibration/

[molten lotus]

here

https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1156&context=physicskatz

the one I am reading

[fallow tide]

Is it bad my old usb turntable was an innovative technology?

[lapis shoal]

does anyone like to use battery powered inline headphone amplifiers? can you recommend a cool model or brand? 🙏

[vast egret]

Looking for help i have several microphones that i try to use but when i plug them in they give me a constant static sound. I think it could maybe be that the cables are stiff or that sense i use a metal racing cockpit it could maybe be shorting out? Any help is greatly appreciated @ me

[quaint torrent]

Fucking turn on dark mode

[violet heron]

hahha

[quaint torrent]

I got a headache and got fucking flash banged

[violet heron]

any suggestions for a microphone setup for desktop use for at most $220? if it's an xlr microphone, then a audio interface, stand and any adapters needed would be in the budget

at the very least I also want to hear my own voice through headphones with minimal latency

[lean grove]

weak eyes

go outside

the world isnt in dark mode like your mom's basement

[violet heron]

unless there's like something slightly above the budget that would noticeably improve recording quality

[fallow tide]

Some $80 mics are more worth it.

Heck some of them don't even need the extra stuff.

[dense elm]

Seriously what is this nahimic mlaware stuff forces by realtek

[random hound]

Hello humans,
I currently have a Creative SoundBlaster H7, that is kinda falling apart and I could need some help finding something new (:
I'm looking for a new (USB) Headset for 100-150€. With full sound, (virtual) surround sound. A okay/great mic. I mostly love my current one because the Sound is full and clear, while also being great surround. Also it's comfortable
Currently thinking about the Creative SXFI AIR GAMER, because it has a lot of the thing I like and Creative has always made great headsets.

[dry stratus]

someone on this planet: "Sound is a lie made up by the government to get us tied to hypnotizing music that controls our behaviour"

[molten lotus]

I hate sound

[haughty locust]

say what you want about their sound quality but damn do grados look good

[median frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-light-mode-gif-19503048

[molten lotus]

If you like that mid 70's audio lab vibe then I guess.

[full cape]

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00YR92VMA/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_slice_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 so i ordered these speakers, now i noticed they got an UK Plug. can i just cut it off and put an German plug on it?

[dry stratus]

can't exactly call it good looking

cheap plastic + rod

[unique wind]

they do look nice in a weird way

[acoustic flicker]

guys can anyone help me troubleshoot bluetooth??

[haughty locust]

idk i just kinda like the aesthetic

most of my setup is older than 30 so they fit in

[haughty locust]

also i thought the same abt the plastic until i got them and actually IMO it feels less cheap and more like Bakerlite

[molten lotus]

stax is peak aesthetics

[unique wind]

nah ur mom is

[molten lotus]

only real competitor is original jecklin floats

[molten lotus]

thank you she will be happy to hear that

[haughty locust]

yeah it should be fine, just make sure that after you reterminate it there are no exposed wirings, HOWEVER: and this is a big however, germany does not have a earth pin in sockets. if it is not double insulated then it may be dangerous, you can check if it has an earth wire if the top pin is metal

[molten lotus]

you can but you should return it

those speakers are very much not worth it

[full cape]

wrong. germany does have an earth pin. its the metal pins. so that works.

[molten lotus]

how can earth prongs not exist

[full cape]

got them for half the price. so its okay

[molten lotus]

how much

[full cape]

40

[molten lotus]

its fine then

[full cape]

instead of 80

[full cape]

[molten lotus]

probably fine

[haughty locust]

oh yeah apologies i was thinking in northern american terms, all of my german equipment that ive reterminated has been groundwireless

[full cape]

u probably mean one of these

[haughty locust]

Yeah thats exactly what i mean, i have these adapter things that i use

[full cape]

Or is it better to just get an adapter? whats cheaper

[molten lotus]

just get an adapter

less room for fault

more secure

[haughty locust]

this is what ive used to change it to uk

you can probably get similar but from uk to eu

[full cape]

okay 😄 Well, the UK plug also has a fuse in it, so yeah. as far as i know they r the safest plug u can get

[haughty locust]

if you dont mind it sticking far out of the wall

[molten lotus]

you can do it for free if you have a plug laying around somewhere you can cut off

but just get an adapter

[full cape]

dont wanna mess with the wiring too much. and having exposed wires or with a clamp is not safe enough for me

[molten lotus]

you solder it and heatshrink it

and soldered joints are more secure than brand new wires

[full cape]

Dont got a soldering iron

[molten lotus]

you can tie them together and it will be fine

also cringe

[full cape]

could i just get one of these solder heatshrink connectors?

[molten lotus]

just get an adapter bro

[full cape]

Okay 😄

[molten lotus]

its probably as cheap

[full cape]

well, i pay 70 cents for the connector, and 10 bucks for the adapter. but well

[haughty locust]

and its approx 300,000 euros for a new house if it burns down

[molten lotus]

that heat shrink does not look at all secure

does it just hold wires with the strength of the rubber lol

[full cape]

Its actually safe. they r even used in high voltage appliances

no. the Solder in the middle fuses them together

[molten lotus]

you don't have an iron

how will you melt it without torching the rubber

or a heat gun

[full cape]

dont need one. a lighter is fine for that

[molten lotus]

yeah nah

[full cape]

and the "rubber" is heat resistant too

[molten lotus]

it isn't

if it was it wouldn't be a heatshrink

[haughty locust]

if you do it right, if you do it wrong it will become a resistor and heat up like a toaster

[full cape]

yeah. forgot bout that

[slim mason]

or you can just put an adaptor on the plug???

they cost like under 10€

[full cape]

read the chat, then you'll know that this was already discussed

[fresh burrow]

Got the thing, I know they are not hi-fi stuff, but I got it with a $CAD 500 equipment grant!

If you guys have any recommendations on any other speakers and/or headphones that I should get, tell me here if possible. Ping me if you guys want additional info :)

[leaden cloak]

Well if you want anything else let us know and give us a budget. Hope you like your XM5s :)

[civic pike]

Hey guys, quick question. I have a pair of old PC speakers, 3 Watts each. I need a 6 Volts power supply/AC-DC transformator. So doing 6 Watts at 6 Volts would give me 1 Amp on the output? Do I have to take something else into account? The speakers themselves have 8 Ohm of impedance. (ping when reply please)

[plucky merlin]

I have a dynamite preamp stick and it causes static when i connect it to my at2020 mic and scarlett solo 3rd gen. I already got a replacement for the dynamite and it still does the same problem

[tender rain]

Can someone tell me are ASUS TUF H3 good, for the price?

[lean grove]

Why did you get the dynamite preamp stick for the at2020

[lean grove]

That assumes your speakers are 100% efficient. Which they aren't. You might get some sound out of them.

But you should try and find the exact power supply that they need

Which it will say on the back or you'll have to Google

[civic pike]

Yeah like I mentioned, old PC speakers. Google doesn't throw anything with the speaker's name

That's why I'm asking for advice here, to have an idea of what output should I hunt for. I know it has to be 1Amp on the theorical base, but on a more realistic note, what should I be looking for?

[plucky merlin]

Am i not supposed to?

[civic pike]

And because anything I try to search it's just fucking stores trying to sell me speakers

[lean grove]

No!

What do you think the dynamite pre-amp stick does?

[cobalt sparrow]

Wrong answers only- what are the best headphones in the world?

[violet heron]

Those two dollar disposable chinese earphones

[molten lotus]

the odds are it is still better than delta buds

[tender frost]

HD 820S

[molten lotus]

would have been really based if you said 800s

[tender frost]

You make a good point

[gentle cradle]

SLIGHT ISSSUE: since overwatch 2 is out ive been flamed for being able to hear my chair and keyboard mid match, is there a noob freindly software i could run in the back to add a slight noise cancelation?
hyperx cloud alpha

[normal anchor]

I need headset reccomendations

Around 100

Or lower or a bit higher

[lean grove]

whats wrong with the headset recommendations that we gave you yesterday

[normal anchor]

dont u remember

they were oos

/scalped

i just went with the hs80 wireless

[plucky merlin]

I thought it would let me lower the gain while still being able to hear my voice without havign to speak louder

[lean grove]

That's what it does for dynamic microphones yes.

But you have a condenser microphone. They need their own power from the interface and you're feeding all that power into the dynamite stick

So you're not even powering your mic

So take the dynamite stick out and it should work just fine

And with the at2020 you shouldnt have any problems with gain.

If you need more gain just turn the knob up.

[stone quartz]

Has anyone used the Sony WF-1000XM4?

[ocean pulsar]

we told you to go cloud 2
ive never seen all of the different cloud 2 models oos at the same time

[plucky merlin]

Oh, is there any preamps for condenser mics or is it just strictly turning up the knob? When i turn up the knob, the fan noise from my pc gets picked up

[molten lotus]

what is the best dac wrong answers only)

[nova wagon]

Realtek HD audio

[lean grove]

You will have the exact same problem with an in-line pre-amp

These things aren't magic

The in-line pre-amp is pretty much just an extra volume knob that's always on max volume

What you want to do instead is have a noise gate.

[median frigate]

which one should i choose for earphones? is stereo alrdy good or wht?

[slim mason]

Just bloated bass, if you dont want bass cannons just stay away from them

[dry stratus]

WF is the TWS btw

[slim mason]

I know

[dry stratus]

and uhm

[slim mason]

I've tried em and its pretty bloated still, maybe it sounds like that because the mids and highs are just kinda muddy

[dry stratus]

depends on the settings

[slim mason]

Could be

Didnt have time to change em because I was at an audio store and had like 20 earphones I wanted to try

[dry stratus]

tho its still alright ig

probably not amazing tho

muddy bass

[slim mason]

But the stock settings on em just werent good

Airpod pro 2 is still the best wireless earbud imo

[dry stratus]

iphone users only tho

[slim mason]

Nah it sounded great on my samsung and connecting was fast too

[summer flicker]

enjoy its alright for what it is, Hella convenient.

[dry stratus]

but no way to change anything unless you use sketchy apps

[slim mason]

Good thing their stock settings are actually quite good

Only thing is that connecting isnt seamless like on most bluetooth headphones

You have to manually click on the airpods on the bluetooth menu

[dry stratus]

I mean, its worse than the older ones

wayyyy more bass than the xm4

[slim mason]

They are way less convenient than last gen

[summer flicker]

don't trust rtings measurements mate

their shit isn't industry standard at all

[dry stratus]

nothing wrong with their measurements

their own standards just suck ass

[summer flicker]

well ,for one it's not industry standard

[slim mason]

Its a known fact that sony headphones are just pure bloated bass because most think bass = good

[summer flicker]

okay?

[dry stratus]

so?, comparing xm4 to xm5 on the exact same testing rig doesn't change that xm5 is way more bassy

[summer flicker]

yes it does

[dry stratus]

no

[slim mason]

[summer flicker]

yes, because deviation is high

you don't know how rigs work

use crinacle

[slim mason]

As if crinacle has tested every headphone ever made

He is more known for testing IEMs

[summer flicker]

lol

just stop

[slim mason]

Youre having a huge case of owners bias

Just shut up

[summer flicker]

right owner bias

[slim mason]

Literally every single audiophile says sony headphones suck ass and you keep defending then like theyre your child

[summer flicker]

I care about a 500 dollar pair of headphones when my source rig costs more than 10x that amount

you don't know what you're talking about

stop talking out of your ass

crinacle has measured and innumerable amount of headphones

[dry stratus]

for the most part audiophile grade but ehh

[summer flicker]

yeah just take rtings measurements with a grain of salt. they don't mean much. there's plenty of other places you can get your data

[dry stratus]

you: soundguys

[summer flicker]

to give you perspective last I checked their hd800s or 800, forget which one, measured less bright than an hd600

[slim mason]

Probably 800s since they are literally tuned to be warmer than 800

[summer flicker]

but it obviously is not darker than a 600, which is the point

[slim mason]

I can see it being close to 600 at least

[summer flicker]

not even close

it's still quite bright

600 is not

here is headphone show

industry standard rig, small deviation from oratory and crin

[slim mason]

Also I'm heavily considering buying empyreans atm

[dry stratus]

I mean, crinacle shows just like rtings HD600 having more around 3khz and less around 6khz .-.

[summer flicker]

empyreans are junk

[summer flicker]

3k is uper mids

[slim mason]

They sound incredible, and you can replace every single component easily. Also they run out of anything which is great since I travel with headphones a lot

[dry stratus]

cherry picking my message much?

empyrean ain't amazing for the price
they're alright ig
just paying like 90% for comfort and aesthetics

[summer flicker]

that's not a cherry pick. nowhere on that graph does 600 have more treble than 800s

not even close

[slim mason]

And they are also the best sounding headphone I have tried and I tried basically everything there is to try in that pricerange at a local audio store

[summer flicker]

every hobby veteran I know dislikes the empyreans. but you do you. if you've purportedly tried everything then that's your decision

[dry stratus]

I mean

if we're going that deep

[slim mason]

One thing I dont get is the expensive af grado models, they all fucking sound the same

[summer flicker]

9k is Gras artifacting

present on every headphone

[dry stratus]

personally they aren't great
too warm

not really much detail at all

consumer tuning

but it isn't horrible

I would buy it for comfort

[summer flicker]

if I had that sort of disposable income right now my first pick would be Utopia

[dry stratus]

I mean, utopia is 2k more

[summer flicker]

that's true

[dry stratus]

HE1K or smth

[summer flicker]

how much is it again? I thought it was 3k

[dry stratus]

3k yes

utopia 2022 being 5k

[summer flicker]

so utopia not that far off

especially at used prices

not the newer version

[dry stratus]

previous utopia is 4k iirc

[summer flicker]

yep

[dry stratus]

tho many places here are putting it on sale for replacement

at like 3-3.5k

[summer flicker]

yeah it's as close to a genuine totl that I can think of based on what I've heard from experienced people

but then again, if I had that kind of money another headphone wouldn't be my first priority

totl for the most part is not what it's shaped up to be

[dry stratus]

Utopia kinda bland for me...
but that's for like all focal

[summer flicker]

the amount of people I've seen that have sold their susvaras for a pair of hd580s and ridiculous source gear is embarrassingly high

[dry stratus]

I would get susvara if I could
probably would end up finishing with like 3-5 1600-3.5k headphones tho

arya, 800, and some more for example

[summer flicker]

from what I've heard, pretty meh

[dry stratus]

try sus and he6

[summer flicker]

it's an alright to good headphone with a price tag of a downpayment towards a sports car

at least baed on what I've heard from people I trust

[summer flicker]

he6 purportedly has a lot of merit on the other hand

[dry stratus]

for the price of susvara + amp/dac you can buy land to build a house on

technically can build a house for 2-3x the cost of one

if you just want something to eat and sleep in with bare minimum requirement

[summer flicker]

lmao not in Canada you cant

but I get you

[dry stratus]

small piece of land and container home in this case tho

which can be done for like 30-40k in multiple places

[summer flicker]

a good amount of land here is like

90k

minimum

[dry stratus]

don't need a lot of land for a house if you build into height

30-40sq/m land and just build a 3 floor house

[summer flicker]

I mean I guess? I feel like you can't always do that

[dry stratus]

no need to feel, considering there are countries, cities, etc where your neighbours need to have a certain amount of sunlight per day limiting the height one can build because blocks sunlight

[summer flicker]

yeah probably some regulations against building high

maybe if ur out in the country

but at that point price of land plummets to begin with

[dry stratus]

could probably buy some dead farm land no one wants

[summer flicker]

ull just ge the shittiest internet imaginable. another area where Canadians get bent over

[dry stratus]

or just move to a war zone

probably could buy it cheap

[summer flicker]

moving is the best call if u make good income and u live in canada

go to the states

[dry stratus]

or just move to a country with high income and live with minimum needs

or one with more freedom in terms of what one can buy and do for passive income

[summer flicker]

plus the weather is total trash here

[dry stratus]

I would probably like the weather there

[summer flicker]

can't even drive rear wheel drive cars for half the year. unless ur a brave boi

[summer flicker]

it's schizophrenic

[dry stratus]

I hate sunlight, like the cold and prefer heavy clouds with light-average rain

[summer flicker]

one day itl be -45c and another itl be 28c, I wish I was joking

[dry stratus]

what is the max temperature?

-45'C ain't too bad

[summer flicker]

bro

negative 45 Celsius will literally kill you if you're not careful

[dry stratus]

meh

[summer flicker]

[dry stratus]

just wear enough, its better than +38'C with a body that doesn't sweat

[summer flicker]

I mean if u genuinely don't sweat that would be hell

we get those days too

just probably rarer

[dry stratus]

I mean, I do sweat
just not in places where it helps (between my ... on my behind)

[summer flicker]

ur best bet is living in a coastal city

like Vancouver

it's basically air conditioning weather all year long there

[dry stratus]

I don't easily get rid of body heat, so I don't have much issue with the cold but do have issues in the heat

[summer flicker]

but it's also insanely expensive

[dry stratus]

global warming exists sadly...

netherlands 2010 vs now be like -10'C to +25'C vs 5'C to 40'C

[summer flicker]

yeah I mean ur shit will be under the sea in 80 years if you own property. but you won't because you live in Vancouver

[dry stratus]

I want a walk in freezer as home

proper breathing is nicer than having to be soaking wet all day every day just to breathe well

[summer flicker]

do you exercise?

must be harder without sweat

[dry stratus]

yes

still depends on what exercise, weights ain't exhausting, muscles exhausted way before you are
but cycling or similar in summer heat is ehh (I mean, anything but sleeping is a pain)

[summer flicker]

rip

well at least youre excercising regardless good on you

[frank urchin]

I can't say for the 600 but I had a pair of 650 and 660 my 650s kept breaking so I bought a 660 I then went to go take the big jump and bought 800s boy was that a big mistake it lacked so much in the lows and pretty much targeted the highs I couldn't stand it and I ended up selling it and I settled for an Arya which in my opinion the 800s should have been soundwise two things that bothered me about the 800s is first off the lack of Low's and base and most of all number two it took all of the vocals and pushed it into the back like the vocals were no longer close up like they were with the 600 line

[summer flicker]

the arya is actually more pronounced in the highs than the 800s

it definitely comes off that way to me, side by side

I have both

I do prefer the hd800s

but I do think none of those headphones are really an upgrade over the 600 and 650

[frank urchin]

Maybe the lack of Base and lows is what made me focus on the highs

[summer flicker]

the bass is actually quite good, just needs some teasing out with source and or eq

that's the general trend with the 800s

extremely source picky headphone

I did not like it in the slightest until I tried it on a specific tube amplifier

[frank urchin]

Really I tried messing with the EQ on the 800s and it just couldn't do it for me compared to the Arya right out of the box filled the shoes for bass

[summer flicker]

its one of the only headphones that I say you will actually go from disliking to liking depending on gear

[frank urchin]

Oh I see tube amplifier

[summer flicker]

It helps that I have an extremely dynamic chain, which really brings out some energy in the lows

[frank urchin]

What tube amplifier would you recommend for the 800s I hear some people go down the path with Pacific amplifiers for the 800 s

[summer flicker]

when comparing the 800s vs the arya on said chain, even without eq the 800s packed mote punch in the low end

with eq it was just no competition

serious levels of rumbling, deep bass that hit very hard

[frank urchin]

How is the sound stage in your opinion I hear many people call the 800s unnatural too much they say

[summer flicker]

the obvious pairing is iha1

goes really damn well with the hd800

there's also the eddie current amps if you have an arm and leg to spare

[summer flicker]

definitely by in large unnatural. but then again, arya is pretty unnatural as well, with its large lateral information and lack of width

unnatural, but pretty big

wide and deep with the right gear. just the depth is felt from further away

in general headphones don't really do soundstage

and whenever they try, they end up sounding unnatural in the process

it's more of a party trick in headphone land than a serious consideration as a desirable quality

[frank urchin]

Dragon Inspire IHA-1 Tube Headphone Amp ?

[summer flicker]

that's the one yes

great amp, low on power, but great pairing with sennheisers

I'm afraid it won't quite do for your arya though

but trying to power planars off tube amps is typically troublesome anyways

there's also Elekit

which has considerable power

[frank urchin]

I do have a pair of lcdx

But I'm not sure if that would really work with it since it's not dynamic

[summer flicker]

generally speaking it won't really do hard to drive headphones any favors

it's really good for dynamics

focals irs great with

sennheiser too

[frank urchin]

I'll probably pick up the 800s again and try that tube amp but I'm going to have to put some money aside for that one XD

@summer flicker by any chance have you tried out stax ?

[summer flicker]

nope. but I'm friends with people that have tried out pretty much everything

and they're not fans. I trust their opinions since mines tends to line up

they like some of the newer stuff, but the older stuff has somewhat of a bad reputation in the hobby

[frank urchin]

Ah I have a pair of sr404s and I find them to be quite interesting for the sound but I prefer them in certain music genres specifically older music like '80s italo disco

[summer flicker]

visit the dankpods server and ask around in the audio gear chat about people's experiences with the 800, iha1, tube amps, stax etc

sonic visions or ief is another place

[summer flicker]

cool

[tender frost]

I ran SR-202 with a 12dB bass shelf and other filters to get it to sound a bit more normal and if it weren't for the sheer lack of comfort i would still own them

[molten lotus]

How so

Most of the older stuff generally has a lot big of a following

[summer flicker]

in an extremely niche part of the hobby yes

most veterans hate them

the stax Klan isn't the hobby

[molten lotus]

if you are talking of 202, omegas and other scuffed stuff then I would get you

but the higher end stuff like lambdas

or sigmas

[summer flicker]

again, the stax klan isn't the hobby. there's only a few people that like old stax outside those shitters

[molten lotus]

what the hell is the stax klan

[summer flicker]

lol

enjoy yourself Klaus. gonna go get some shut eye

[tender frost]

It sounds so unreasonably pretentious it hurts

[lean grove]

If you hang out in enough audio servers you realize that 90% of the people who like Stax tend to have a lot of mutual connections with each other.

[tender frost]

Just feels like they could've come up with something a little less... Like that lmao

[lean grove]

No that's terro giving them a name that might possibly be a double entendre

There's no name like that.

[tender frost]

Oh thank god

[molten lotus]

where my stax klanners at

[molten lotus]

if you hang in enough audio servers you realize 90% of the people have mutual connections with each other

[lean grove]

That too.

[smoky fjord]

anyone here able to help

looking at buying speakers

[lean grove]

What's your budget and where do you plan on putting these?

[smoky fjord]

on my desk

well ones im looking at arew like 100-170 GBP

was looking at the logitech z623 but they was out of stock

so now looking at the logitech z407 or z533

[molten lotus]

definitely do avoid logitech if you want good audio

[smoky fjord]

basically i live with people so huge big bass isnt a nessesity as i get complaints

[lean grove]

Well first off stop looking at Logitech

They're built so cheaply.

Look at what you can afford from edifier.
If nothing like that suits your fancy, other good options are the creative pebbles or the Klipsch promedia.

[molten lotus]

i could build speakers better than logitech ones for half of the price

[smoky fjord]

these?

[molten lotus]

they are decent

but decent at most

not good

[smoky fjord]

nils mentioned creative pebbles

[molten lotus]

creative pebbles are like 40$

they are good for that much

[smoky fjord]

yea

[molten lotus]

not for anything above

[smoky fjord]

i dont need anything like amazing i have a JBL speaker on my pc atm which i love but i feel like as i play competative games i need something stereo

[lean grove]

They're good for if you're really tight on cash or space.

Otherwise I would pick edifiers

[smoky fjord]

no sub?

[lean grove]

Yes.

Not that the edifiers will extend that low. But usually a sub just eats up the budget so the speakers that are gonna be making 90% of the music are gonna saturate like 20% of the budget.

The rest will go to the subwoofer and amplifier needed for the subwoofer.

And some edifiers have a sub-out that you can plug a subwoofer into if you want one later.

[smoky fjord]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1000T4-Powered-Bookshelf-Computer/dp/B07YCPH3NZ/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1RDNUUWH1PK5S&keywords=edifier+speaker&qid=1676304066&refinements=p_72%3A419153031&rnid=419152031&sprefix=edif%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-9

something like this?

[lean grove]

I don't know much about the 1000 series

It doesn't have a sub out I think

The 1700 or the 1280 is what I was thinking

But usually edifier knows what they're doing.

[molten lotus]

same

I don't know about the rt10004 in particular

id stick to the two nils mentioned to be safe

[smoky fjord]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B07D4H8F8F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=8RCKDIJCJG1G&keywords=edifier%2B1700&qid=1676304205&sprefix=edifier%2B1700%2Caps%2C76&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&smid=A2V8YV6FAC397E&th=1

these?

[molten lotus]

those are the bluetooth version which are more expensive than the regular one

but yeah

those

[smoky fjord]

ok

dso you have a preference between 1700 or 1280

[lean grove]

1700 is better

[weak rapids]

Now thats a bargain

[smoky fjord]

i can only find the bluetooth ones

[viral pasture]

bought a hyperx cloud II headset and the audio sounded like i have laptop speakers glued to my ears, i updated the firmware which made it slightly better, then i messed around with windows enhancement settings, also got better but it still sounds bad, am out of ideas for fixing it so i might just refund

[smoky fjord]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edifier-R1700BT-Bluetooth-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B06XGGM4R3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=370A975KQA8U&keywords=edifier+1700&qid=1676304826&sprefix=%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-3 bought these @lean grove @molten lotus

[nova wagon]

wireless version?

[viral pasture]

wired

[nova wagon]

where did you plug the headset into?"

[unique wind]

sounds about right

[molten lotus]

sounds like a connection issue

[viral pasture]

if you mean the jack its plugged into the usb volume control box thats part of the set, i tried the usb in different places of my pc but its still the same

[nova wagon]

and you tick all the audio enhancement thing in the sound option?

[viral pasture]

yea

[nova wagon]

have you tried turned off sound enhancement?

all of them

[molten lotus]

he means untick

not tick

[viral pasture]

unticked them now, it just sounds worse

[nova wagon]

hmm cool
what if you plug it directly into your mobo's output?

not the one on the case btw, that would prob sound just as worse

[viral pasture]

the what

[nova wagon]

the headphone jack on the mobo's io

[viral pasture]

idk where that is, plugged some random ones and no sound is coming

[molten lotus]

the motherboard

[leaden cloak]

The back. It’s the green ones

[molten lotus]

klaus

yes that is me

hello

make fun of michael with me

@unique wind you're a nerd

🤓

michael is bad

ha good one

thanks

[unique wind]

two kids with lofi setups

[molten lotus]

your mom

[knotty crystal]

Does anyone know of any good source where I can find and compare noise cancelling performance of different headsets.

[molten lotus]

no

[leaden cloak]

What headphones do you want to compare

[knotty crystal]

wh 1000xm5 vs bang olufsen's h95 and some other choices popular for noise cancelling.

[lean grove]

RTings has scores for noise cancelling

[knotty crystal]

Thanks

[dry stratus]

Ew

[knotty crystal]

Do I hear opinions?

[leaden cloak]

XM5 has some of the best noise canceling, but some of the worst sound

Bang olufsen does not make good headphones

[knotty crystal]

Is this the same with XM4?

And do you have any recommendations?

[molten lotus]

Yes

[molten lotus]

rtings might be good at rating mice and other such completely objective types of things (even those are kinda shit some times) but their sound scores are complete dog water. Look to rtings for things like build quality and if your mouse is actually reading the correct dpi. NOT for if the thing sounds good.

[lean grove]

Find me another reviewer that takes noise cancelling measurements

Of up-to-date modern headphones.

[molten lotus]

I didn't say ALL their info is bad but for example the gpro ultralite is not even on their best wireless mice ratings...

[haughty girder]

measurements ≠ ratings

[haughty girder]

none of us said use their ratings. Their measurements are consistent and repeatable.

[molten lotus]

I think there is good in him mentioning this though

the guy might have though to use rtings for that purpose since it was recommended

[molten lotus]

I should have been more explicit in my praise of their measurements. I just found their audio input to be crap, and I had bought (because I trusted their ratings on pretty much everything else) a pair of gaming headset that sounded like muddy water because it was highly rated by them

[haughty girder]

I agree that there was good intent, but I don't agree with him saying stuff like "gpro ultralight isn't on their best wireless mice ratings"

Wireless fps gaming mice I have no doubt is near the top

But not all mice are for gaming

G pro wireless is dogshit for anything other than fps gaming

[molten lotus]

oh their rating for work mice is spot on with the wireless mx master coming in on top

[haughty girder]

Even for mmo you're not gonna have a good time with gpro

[molten lotus]

Naga is essentially your only option for MMO

but that's neither here nor there

check their mesurments and then read reviews

for example their "best wireless gaming mouse" in the viper v2 pro has a consistent issue with random scrollwheel activation

and if you buy a razer mouse off of amazon you voided your warranty

so you have to buy a razer mouse from bestbuy or from the razer website

[haughty girder]

I'm just not a fan of razer in general

I use a deathadder v2mini because I find small mice comfortable (I default claw grip with almost every mouse I've used including mx master)n

But everything but the actual mouse part is dogshit

especially synapse

[lyric ice]

Guys do i need to do something specific on my pc to have better audio quality when i use a dac+amp or just plug and play?

[haughty girder]

if the dac uses usb, it's plug and play

there's nothing more to it

anything more than 16bit 44.1khz you're wasting cpu resources

and that's usually default

[molten lotus]

wasn't that number 48000

[lyric ice]

I'm using the fiio k5 pro with my headset hd6xx and noticed there is exclusive mode on tidal and when i tried it, music got a bit louder but a lot better in quality. Is that normal?

[molten lotus]

it didn't get better in quality

it just got louder

well exclusive mode can help with audio quality though

but if it does it will be incredibly minor

[lyric ice]

I've always used default settings and never tried different ones before

[haughty girder]

44.1 and 48 differ for the aa filter which doesn't rly matter in playback

[molten lotus]

tidal by default overwrites the os defaults and outputs whatever the source is in

so you don't need any particular settings

though exclusive can help

[molten lotus]

I spoke of the same thing here before

[lyric ice]

Also does gain levels just make the headset also louder?

[molten lotus]

yes

[haughty girder]

it means that you had another app like eqapo lowerinh volume

[molten lotus]

was told that because upsampling is a less damaging form of sampling than downsampling, 48000hz is better

[haughty girder]

Exclusive mode means direct access to the hardware without any external influence from apps

[haughty girder]

that depends on where you're getting your music

even Spotify hifi is 16bit 44.1

[molten lotus]

spotify hifi?

[lyric ice]

Spotify has hifi now?

[molten lotus]

that came out?

[haughty girder]

the not yet fully released thing

It's still in beta testing or sth

[lyric ice]

Oh

I was about to subscribe and cancel tidal

[haughty girder]

aha

I can't hear diff between lossless and 320mp3/vbr acc

Well, I can in very specific circumstances

it's listening for the artifacting in the higher pitches

But 99.9% of the time I don't care or can't hear the diff

[molten lotus]

same

I don't disagree

[haughty girder]

I can't go lower than 256mp3 though before it becomes noticeable enough that I get distracted

[molten lotus]

I don't get distracted for it but

[lean grove]

Local files >>>

[molten lotus]

there is no reason for me to keep it in a lower samplerate

[molten lotus]

true

I use spotify because it has incredible algorithms though

[lyric ice]

Just wondering. How do you guys get music if not through streaming apps

[molten lotus]

yarrr.

[lyric ice]

Are there specific websites that sell music albums digitally or something like that?

[lean grove]

Bandcamp is what I use

But

It's only good if you don't listen to normie music

Big labels don't like to have their stuff on there. In which case you can rip CDs for lossless music.

Bandcamp weekly and hip-hop shows also has some bops on it.

[lyric ice]

Gonna check that out tomorrow

Thanks

[lean grove]

Bandcamp also really supports the musicians on there.

[molten lotus]

buying music lol

[lean grove]

Not supporting small artists lol

[molten lotus]

why would I want to support an artist

[wide atlas]

Hey, sry for reposting, but I was looking for some wireless overear headphones between 100-150$ range, can someone help me with that pls?

ik wireless isnt the best for audio quality, but i love the utility of moving around without wires constantly dangling.

[molten lotus]

n700nc for outside cloud 2 for inside

[pliant basin]

Not sure if this is the spot for a question like this but I’m wondering if acoustic panels are good for keeping sound out of a room and not just cutting down on reverb.

[lean grove]

reverb is all they'll help with im afraid

unless you're using some very thick and dense acoustic panels

[pliant basin]

Do you know how one could keep sound out of a room?

[lean grove]

start with wherever there's an air gap. in between doors, air vents. then target thin parts of wall and the door itself. you can make proper acoustic panels with rockwool, you'll want it to be a few inches thick. and then hang those in between studs and over your entire door.

alternatively you can just get a much heavier door

[pliant basin]

Thanks for the advice I’ll check this out living with family is annoying sometimes

[lean grove]

and then add weather proof or insulation around the edges

[pliant basin]

Especially when you have an SO

[lean grove]

and then a doorsweep

[pliant basin]

Do you think a cheap doorsweep on Amazon is fine? It’s like a circular piece of foam

[haughty girder]

normie music... just use yt music

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/music-headphone-pain-audiophiles-gif-24232241

me listening to YT music

[haughty girder]

yea quality is shit but

at least you can download more niche artists

FELT being one of them

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=b-rZyUDU0nc&feature=share

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[haughty girder]

should listen btw

[lean grove]

thats my live reaction to listening

[haughty girder]

LMAO

a will to live

got it

[quaint torrent]

Bruh I thought this was a ultrasound

[dry stratus]

the og?

[shut shard]

are the 7hz salnotes zeros better than the chus?

[unique wind]

i would rather have the salnotes

[dry stratus]

I would rather have the thieaudio monarch or z1r or smth

Then sell it

Free money

[ocean pulsar]

define better, but I have both and prefer the zeros

[molten lotus]

hi
my window's volume mixer is turning up volumes up and down automatically
how can I make it stop or disable it?
i am using windows 11

[normal anchor]

uhh why does my headset not make a sound

i just got it

[unique wind]

me bumpin that 128-196kbit/s youtube video music because music videos make it more fun

with bluetooth iems with only one in

this is hifi

[spark hazel]

whats better steel series arctis nova 1 or arctis 3

[molten lotus]

both bad

👍

[violet heron]

would you say there is an audible improvement going from a dt770 to a hd600

[molten lotus]

yes

of course

[floral hinge]

im getting my hd 560s tomorrow and im so excited

[thorn zenith]

Alright might be a longshot, but is there any solution to cancelling out echo with a desktop mic and surround speakers? I had the idea to surround the mic with acoustic foam, and that might work

but i wasnt sure

[molten lotus]

if it can block out speakers, it can definitely block your voice

[thorn zenith]

the way I would place it, it would be open facing me

but where it faces the speakers and on the sides there would be foam

[molten lotus]

foam doesn't block noise, it dampens it

your best shot is buying a mic with a tight pickup pattern

[thorn zenith]

what kind of mic would that be?

[molten lotus]

also how is it a surround system with speakers only in front of you

[thorn zenith]

speakers in front and on the side

what i said about the foam was that it would cover 3 sides

[molten lotus]

not sure, a shotgun mic maybe

[thorn zenith]

the fourth was where it faced me so that I could talk into it

[molten lotus]

or an xm8500

[floral hinge]

I feel like a project like that is a trial and error type project with multiple mics to try but idk audio stuff

hehe

[tame scarab]

is there a way to get dolby access for free?

[median holly]

anyone know a good wireless headset

my brother's one broke so im thinking of buying him a fairly good one

just not like too expensive

budget is around $400-500

if theres something good but also cheap also recommend please

[lean grove]

Audeze Maxwell is the latest hotness that there's absolutely no information on.

Wait for a couple weeks for reviews.

Might be good. Probably wont be excellent.

[median holly]

okay

[fresh burrow]

good news! I can get speakers!
I think a budget of $CAD 150 is enough?

as for additional headphones, it is not included in the budget of my equipment grant, but what do you recommend?

[leaden cloak]

so do you want headphones or speakers right now?

[fresh burrow]

speakers, headphones I can get later

[leaden cloak]

alright uhh i think theres a pair thats good for that price lemme remember

[fresh burrow]

of course, my parents will be miffed on my decision lol.
but I am waiting for you recommendation :)

[leaden cloak]

how much are Edifier MR4s for you?

[fresh burrow]

it came up in price, but that seems good. Even one of the people at the Dankpods server mentioned that one too :D

what does one look for in a speaker btw?

[leaden cloak]

i usually look for sound quality

[fresh burrow]

i see
then features next right?

[leaden cloak]

actually yeah i was gonna say that

sound quality is what i prioritize on anything and then features (things i want/things i find good) are next

[fresh burrow]

I guess most of you guys don't bother with bluetooth right?

[leaden cloak]

not really, but its nice to have

[fresh burrow]

I assume that this thing is only connecting for one device. Are there any that allows me to connect more than one? I am exploring a bit more options, but the Edifier MR4 is still on the list

[leaden cloak]

how many devices do you want connected?

most speakers like that can do at least two

i think the mr4s can do 3 technically

[fresh burrow]

🤔
a computer, laptop, Switch (?), a phone?

[cunning scroll]

why does my mic work but not my headphones? when i use a different audio device my headphones work

[fading hull]

Does windows see your audio device as a headset?

[cunning scroll]

i think so

i use a splitter

[fading hull]

So your headphones have built in microphone i assume?
So Headphones > 3.5mm to 2 2.0mm > PC to Audio Out and Recording In

[cunning scroll]

they're both 3.5

they're not the mini ones

they're full sized audio jacks

not like the giant aux ones

[fading hull]

Oh yeah my bad.
Windows can be quite finicky with audio devices.
Tinker around with sound device settings and windows help forums have solutions that have always worked for me

i cant see your screen so i dont know whats going on but sounds like windows is trying to use your headphones as a headSET and trying to put you on call mode

[cunning scroll]

no vc?

[fading hull]

afraid cant at work lmao

[cunning scroll]

what are you looking for

wait nvm

[fading hull]

Realtek Digital output is Realteks stupid virtual "mixer" if you are using that source try to open the Realtek Console

[cunning scroll]

i just redownloasded drivers

[fading hull]

And yes realtek drivers. Notorious for not working lmao

Since i invested in an USB Digital to Analogue Converter (DAC) and ditched realtek software my life has never been better

[keen swift]

so im new to this, I have no idea what a DAC does and why would I need one? I really want to know since I have been planning to buy an x37

and it comes up a lot the combonation of a DAC and the x37

[molten lotus]

dac makes information into audio, anything playback related has a dac chip somewhere in its chain

[unique wind]

it takes ur spotify music and turns it into physical electrical signals

[molten lotus]

it may be inside of the headphones if its wireless or usb, or you may be using your computer mother board's if it is a 3.5

it isn't a complete setup by itself if it's only a dac, you need to connect it to an amplifier as well

[unique wind]

if youre talking about sennheiser pc37x you dont need to buy a dedicated dac for that

[molten lotus]

for a x37 you don't need either though

[keen swift]

ok well that was helpful thanks a lot, yeah it is for the sennheiser pc37x

[unique wind]

if you find theyre too quiet or sound bad you could grab an apple branded usb c to 3.5mm dongle

that has both a dac and an amplifier in it and will bypass what your motherboard has

sometimes motherboard audio isnt good but itll most likely be fine

[keen swift]

ohh wow in that little thing? amazing

[unique wind]

yeah its surprising

it's not a powerful amplifier but it's enough for earbuds or a gaming headset

and the dac portion is clean

[keen swift]

im not sure if I can find an original apple dongle where I live but I will try to find it

[unique wind]

just try the headphones on their own first, it could be just fine

[keen swift]

yeah but the fact that I haven't ever experienced anything with good audio I really wouldn't know if they sound as good as they can, I have had a hyper x cloud II for years now and they are so shit

but I will try them on their own first

[dry stratus]

The cloud II are like, the only alright gaming branded headset (sennheiser ain't a gaming brand, doesn't count)

mostly because its just a rebrand

and not them trying to make a headset

[median frigate]

shud i get the airpods pro 2 or some nice wired earphones

i dont relly mind if its tws or wired

i like good sound n bass

[unique wind]

if you dont mind them being wired and want a lot of bass i recommend "Tangzu Zetian Wu"

if you want true wireless then airpods pro 2 are the best

[sand swallow]

should i get wh1000xm4 or wh1000 xm5

[turbid grove]

Hi, recommend a headset under $300 with the best Neutral Sound and Imaging; I don't need a microphone, I don't need wireless, wanna use it for music, editing audio, and gaming.

I need it to be comfortable too.

[tender frost]

HD 560S is like <$150 I think and does everything you ask quite nicely afaik

No clue how it does imaging actually but it does have an excellently neutral FR

[unique wind]

yeah hd560s is probably what you want

full linear bass extension

easy to power and considered comfortable by most

[turbid grove]

I recently bought Sony Inzone H3 - H7 - H9, and had Pulse 3D (for youtube reviews and videos I make)

And they're the worst for price

now I really like to have something good lol

looks good

[turbid grove]

good for price really

[turbid grove]

which website is it

[tender frost]

The link is right there

[unique wind]

it's a measurement from the youtuber "crinacle"

his website is "in ear fidelity"

sennheiser hd600 are also very neutral if you want to spend more money

[turbid grove]

of course not sure how reliable Rtings is

[unique wind]

yeah you cant really shop headphones by just looking at that page

[turbid grove]

Exactly, and where I live, there's nowhere to test

You just buy

[unique wind]

hd600 actually has more linear bass than 560s, it just doesnt have as much bass in the 20-50hz region

so it scored lower in their testing

you could easily raise that to match with eq or you could get just get the 560s and be happy

[turbid grove]

Damn HD 560S = $270 (since only 1 shop has it and no official store here)

[unique wind]

dang thats way overpriced

[turbid grove]

Damn sennheiser hd600 = $600

[unique wind]

holy shit

[turbid grove]

the same (only 1 shop has it)

[unique wind]

can you not order online

[turbid grove]

Yeah OMG

[turbid grove]

That's the only shop in whole country that has it

Things are a bit different here

[unique wind]

what country are you from

[sand swallow]

bro where do u live

[turbid grove]

Iran