#audio-tech | Linus Tech Tips | Page 11

past grotto Feb 10, 2023, 3:28 PM

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maybe some recording stuff but it wouldnt be too much of a deal

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:28 PM

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Well

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Your call

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cringe setup

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it actually looks good

past grotto Feb 10, 2023, 3:29 PM

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molten lotus Well

im guessing it has the mount to put on a boom arm already?

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:29 PM

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If you want good audio in discord you are going to need it

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Or else you will have to use krisp and other stuff

slim mason Feb 10, 2023, 3:29 PM

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I'll give you a hint on what I did recently

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:29 PM

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molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:30 PM

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And not one of your keyboard, mouse clicks or breathing goes through?

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:30 PM

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slim mason I'll give you a hint on what I did recently

nice rig

slim mason Feb 10, 2023, 3:31 PM

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I can confidently say the xm8500 doesnt pick up any background noise

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:31 PM

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i have my gate setup as an expander

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it cuts the volume of anything below-35db in half

slim mason Feb 10, 2023, 3:32 PM

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Even if I borderline smash the keys on my keyboard nobody on discord can hear it

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:32 PM

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unique wind

Your setup looks great bro

slim mason Feb 10, 2023, 3:32 PM

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On and off, doesnt matter

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:32 PM

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slim mason I can confidently say the xm8500 doesnt pick up any background noise

Yeah that's why I recommend it to people who don't know how to use a noise gate

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:33 PM

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i use a condenser and my keyboard noise doesn’t register in obs

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unless i’m talking

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and you can’t hear it even then most of the time

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usually only if i’m hammering enter

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dynamic is cope

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you’d probably like my old pc then

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sure

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this is the original image

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slim mason Feb 10, 2023, 3:38 PM

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I highjacket this channel into a pc channel linusGuppy 😈

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:39 PM

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talk until the mods get involved

slim mason Feb 10, 2023, 3:40 PM

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unique wind this is the original image

Needs a backplate but other than that cool

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:40 PM

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i don’t use that pc anymore

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:40 PM

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unique wind

Wow this looks terrible do you even know how to use a computer

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:41 PM

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he’s trolling

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i can’t find a picture of the way my pc is now which is annoying me

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i’ll have to go to my camera roll

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:42 PM

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Michael has to be trolling thinking that looks good

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:43 PM

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it’s barely different anyway i just changed gpus

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:43 PM

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Make it look good

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instead of bad

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You have to just do the opposite of being bad

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Michaels pc

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Make it good

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It was before you edited the message

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By not being good

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uggo pc cope

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dies of cringe

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:46 PM

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i changed power supplies and gpus and i didn’t bother putting the sleeved cable extensions in

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stopped caring what my pc looks like

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there’s nothing i can do about the front fan cables without getting extensions

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 3:46 PM

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remove the tubes

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 3:47 PM

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the case is massive

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the cables don’t reach in a pretty way

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i was giving people existential crises in tech chat 1 earlier

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we were talking about consciousness and mortality

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never on topic ✊

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looks like me

dry stratus Feb 10, 2023, 4:25 PM

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unique wind looks like me

So you look like a disease starting with a C?

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aka anything related to spongebob

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god I hate that disgusting piece of child trash

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teletubbies over spongebob every time

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 4:30 PM

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spongebob is fantastic

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10/10 cartoon

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 4:39 PM

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dry stratus ***god I hate that disgusting piece of child trash***

beef with sponge

gloomy cave Feb 10, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Ah, yes, these used HD25s are definately working. I can clearly hear the noise leaking in whenever anyone on the WAN show talks. Good audio equipment can be a curse.

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 5:20 PM

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spongebob chads rise up

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 6:46 PM

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that's a dynamic mic

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it needs 48v?

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huh

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yeah i was checking

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some sources said it needs phantom some said it didn't

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but after all I don't think it needs it based on what users said

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idk though

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that much for a mic sounds comedic

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just get a basic condenser and the rest is post recording

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by a basic condenser I meant something with a half decent frequency response

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for studio stuff as well

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if you want I can get at least 10 different audio engineers to say that you don't need an expensive microphone to produce good stuff

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its not like microphones start performing better or worse the more you pay

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the only thing that changes is tonality

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there isn't

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it just sounds different

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its literally tonality

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unless its a tube mic or some other weird thing

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its just tonality

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I meant tube microphone

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and yes solid states are ofc different

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mate

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its tonality

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literally

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that is the difference

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unless its a tube mic with distortion or a bad mic with weird resonance or something

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it is tonality

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yes

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lmao

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this is why no audio engineer pays for microphones on their own

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I have literally been told so many times by audio engineers to not spend more than 100-150$ for microphones

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go ask audbol if you want, the man has 4 years in audio engineering and 2 years in electrical engineering

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also has been working in a studio for a pretty long time, not sure how exactly much

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yeah, the tonality

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if a microphone can do tonality better than another which is more suitable for your task at hand and the sound signature you are aiming for

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sure

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it makes it easier

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sure

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it is also the pickup range and pattern

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makes x sound source sound different at y position

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we are discussing microphone technicalities so I didn't mention that

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since it is an external factor

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alright

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which?

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I am willing to admit being false if you can show me evidence of this or provide information regarding some form of it

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:00 PM

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this is the equivalent of arguing about dacs

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:00 PM

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dacs actually show measurable difference in wave forms and tests

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:01 PM

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more expensive microphones have different or more features but aren’t necessarily higher fidelity

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just like dacs beyond the audible threshold

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:01 PM

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define feature

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the only feature I know that differs is pickup pattern, range and tonality

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and the correlation of all of these factors make up the sound of a microphone

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:01 PM

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build quality, pickup pattern, plosive rejection, proximity effect mitigation, self noise, sensitivity, diaphragm shape and size

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:01 PM

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apart from stuff like built in shock mounts and filters ofc

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:01 PM

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decibel pads

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high and low pass filters

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:01 PM

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decibel pads?

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mics will have a better noise floor???

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:02 PM

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molten lotus decibel pads?

they decrease the sensitivity so you can record louder noises

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:02 PM

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molten lotus mics will have a better noise floor???

yes that is what self noise is

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:02 PM

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that is litereally not related to the cost of a microphone

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but the engineering of it

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correlated

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:03 PM

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you can obviously pick out microphones that cost more that are worse than cheaper microphones

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but that doesn’t mean any microphone over a hundred dollars is a scam

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:03 PM

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hundred dollars sure

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they wont

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mic components literally cost dollars

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its just companies not wanting to sell it for cheap

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hifiman susvara costs 6000$ yet costs like 300$ at most to manufacture

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at most

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:04 PM

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i’m going to make a poor financial decision ONLY to spite klaus

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:04 PM

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same with mics

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many hundred or thousands of dollars worth mics use components worth several dollars

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high end neumanns are tube mics most of the time

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that is a different story

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it is literally so common to see a microphone made up of components that is cheaper than the cost of its chasis

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if I had a dollar for every microphone that costed over 100$ and had a diaphragm that costed less than 10$ id probably be fucking rich

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:06 PM

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wait until klaus finds out that’s true for every market segment not just audio

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:07 PM

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I already acknowledge that

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:07 PM

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you pay a lot of money because it costs them money to design and develop the products as well as paying the employees

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not because the products cost a lot to produce

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:07 PM

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it never costs a lot to produce

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except for high end neumann stuff

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I don't know about those at all

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:07 PM

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processor architectures cost billions of dollars to design but a processor costs like $15 to make

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:08 PM

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I could just buy a random 100$ condenser and provide that

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:08 PM

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the machines that make them aren’t cheap tho

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:08 PM

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since its literally tonality that is the only difference that matters lol

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stop projecting your lack of skill issues onto your mics

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:08 PM

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tonality is the least important aspect of a microphone

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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its the #1

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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no it isn’t

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self noise and pickup pattern are more important

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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Pickup pattern and tonality go hand in hand

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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yeah I already agreed to that

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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Self noise is a non issue if you have anything beyond terrible gear

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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I said mic sound is a correlation of the two

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also this

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:09 PM

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tonality isn’t the literal least important aspect but it’s definitely not as important as other aspects

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:10 PM

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its literally a factor so unrealistic I had to have you explain it

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just to make sure

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lmao

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:10 PM

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if you have a low enough self noise you can just corrective eq into oblivion

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:10 PM

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you can

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yeah

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sure

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I am not a producer

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beating me in terms of mastering wouldn't make you anymore correct

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but just as so I can find ten different producers that can make a track with a 50$ mic that you couldn't dream of making with a 30k neumann

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I can find them I can't convince them to actually do this lmao

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:11 PM

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ability to beat someone with better gear doesn’t negate the fact that the track could’ve been even better with better gear

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:11 PM

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it does

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since the only difference that matters for a mic is tonality

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okay

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show me something

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that says otherwise

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:12 PM

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go use a mic with 30db of self noise klaus

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:12 PM

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a document of some sort

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you do it

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you are defending the point

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not me

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:12 PM

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try to do any processing without introducing audible noise floor

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:12 PM

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exactly

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:13 PM

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unique wind try to do any processing without introducing audible noise floor

why would I look for a mic so fucking shit it has an audible noise floor

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:13 PM

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most microphones will have an audible noise floor with a lot of processing

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:14 PM

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unique wind most microphones will have an audible noise floor with a lot of processing

solution

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find good mic preamp

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:14 PM

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microphone self noise isn’t tied to preamp noise

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but preamp noise is important too yeah

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:14 PM

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get enough heardroom

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create enough of a gap between the noise floor and the recording

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without the mic clipping

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:15 PM

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unique wind if you have a low enough self noise you can just corrective eq into oblivion

Not really. This is where pickup pattern and tonality go hand in hand.

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:15 PM

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literally show me any source of what you said

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:15 PM

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If you have great on-axis response, but shit off axis response, EQ will not save that

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:15 PM

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i wasn’t talking about correcting pickup pattern

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we were talking about frequency response tonality

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:15 PM

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any time you go off axis the tonality will change.

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And that applies to reflections as well

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:16 PM

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oh sorry there isn't exactly a science article for "difference between microphones"

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I particularly said science article so you don't show me some sound guys link

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which is made from the most trustworthy sources always.

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:17 PM

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So EQ will only really be a fix-all if you don't move and are in an anechoic room

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:17 PM

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is that so

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I have

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yeah probably not

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lmao

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there are definitely scientific studies on this too

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you just can't identify them because of the advanced terminology

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and you have no education regarding the topic

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I don't proclaim that I do

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I just ask you to prove it with the supposed information you have

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I have

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what is the next step

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which of these articles has the evidence to your claims?

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the results are right there

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that is literally a screenshot of the google scholar results right above

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382801814547988481/1073684292661686283/image.png

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okay

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what should I search for

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:22 PM

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both of you are talking past each other

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:22 PM

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the first thing I said when this argument happened was that you can convince me otherwise with the correct evidence which I agreed to

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I do not mind being wrong

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:22 PM

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klaus, different microphones have different inherent noise levels

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:22 PM

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ocean pulsar klaus, different microphones have different inherent noise levels

yeah I didn't disagree to that

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:22 PM

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molten lotus yeah I didn't disagree to that

you said you did

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:23 PM

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I said it is not a very realistic problem

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:23 PM

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its quite common

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:23 PM

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apologies for that in that case

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let me rephrase myself

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given two mics have no technical issues that prevent you from recording in an arranged space for the task with no inherent mic traits that damage the recording itself, the only difference between two mics is tonality which is a correlation of pickup range, pattern and frequency response

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:24 PM

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the other thing is many highly expensive microphones are multichannel or ambisonic, both of which cost money to do

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:24 PM

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which regarding mic traits that damage the recording itself I believe to be not a big issue with any decent mic

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:25 PM

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ocean pulsar the other thing is many highly expensive microphones are multichannel or ambison...

dual microphone setup?

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what do you think ambisonic means

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:26 PM

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multiple separate microphones provide a different sound from multiple capsules within a single mic

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thats not nescessarily true

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:26 PM

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and left and right are multiple channels?

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that is what he is talking about

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so is dual microphone setups

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:27 PM

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no ambisonic requires 6+ capsules

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it records at the same exact intensity from all directions

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very hard to do properly

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:27 PM

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ocean pulsar no ambisonic requires 6+ capsules

it is four?

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correct me if I am wrong

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:27 PM

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no it records in 3d

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so up down left right back front required

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8 or 12 is often

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:28 PM

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I am googling it

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yet I am not seeing any numbers regarding this

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and terminologically (not in audio engineering terms) it says that ambisonic is audio with informational audio

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which dual microphones also establish

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I don't proclaim this to be correct since it is not audio engineering terms but regular ones

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but I do not see any place where it says 6+, on the contrary I have seen number four

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:29 PM

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technically 2 is possible (theoretically)
4 is the minimum required (practically) but doesnt give a good vertical image

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:30 PM

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woah latin

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:30 PM

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and the capsules have to be aligned perfectly and as close to each other as possible

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:30 PM

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no vay

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:30 PM

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ocean pulsar and the capsules have to be aligned perfectly and as close to each other as poss...

why

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like

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even if its bad directional information

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even with a horrendous setup it is still directional information

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even if incorrect

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is this not true

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if we are discussing quality then sure I agree with you 100%

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:31 PM

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but the direction would be wrong

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:31 PM

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yeah I don't disagree

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but if we are talking about just establishing ambisonic sound then doesn't anything with multiple capsules establish this

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:31 PM

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nope

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:31 PM

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why?

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:32 PM

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because it requires a crazy amount of processing to actually generate the 3d sound field

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:32 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/eating-the-chip-chips-chip-eating-chip-man-eating-three-chips-gif-18885184

Tenor

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:32 PM

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yeah a correct one sure

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I didn't say it needs to be good or accurate

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:32 PM

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you would play back the 360 video and it would be obviously off

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:32 PM

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yeah

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but that isn't what I stated

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:32 PM

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obvious to the point of a regular end user being able to tell

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:33 PM

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I said that any multiple capsules can establish ambisonic sound, regardless of it being correct or not

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is this not true

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:33 PM

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you need them arranged carefully

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:33 PM

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why

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it will still have uneven stereo channels hence ambisonic information

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due to the nature of the recording

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even if it isn't accurate information it will still carry over directional information although bad

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:34 PM

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its not stereo

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its 3d

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stereo is alot easier

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:34 PM

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oh to clarify I am talking about a dual mic setup not one with multiple capsules

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:34 PM

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thats not ambisonic

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:34 PM

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it has directional information?

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:34 PM

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yep

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:35 PM

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so it is ambisonic?

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:35 PM

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no

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:36 PM

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alright my bad

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:36 PM

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the direction information encoded in stereo is planar unless you are talking binaural
and if its binaural the encoding is rather poor

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:36 PM

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I missed the reproduces part

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which entails that it has to be correct information

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:36 PM

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thats also not the definition of the audio format

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thats the definition of the word used for the audio format

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:36 PM

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where can I find the definition of the audio format's name

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:37 PM

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using an ambisonic mic you can mathematically reconstruct every possible recording pattern of a mic

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:38 PM

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I didn't know of this thank you

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:38 PM

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yeah that’s right you don’t know anything klaus

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:38 PM

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shut up michael

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:38 PM

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bow down to master carmon

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:39 PM

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there is objective knowledge regarding my ears being the best

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(objective)

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@ocean pulsar regarding mics with singular capsules

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what is the difference apart from tonality and self noise

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and by tonality I mean the correlation of frequency response and pickup pattern/shape

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:40 PM

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dynamic range

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:40 PM

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unique wind bow down to master carmon

Don't be fooled. He's just a sophisticated chat bot.

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:40 PM

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and i mean mathematical dynamic range

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:40 PM

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define mathematical dynamic range

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how is it different than the regular dynamic range

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:41 PM

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alot of people bs about dynamic range
i mean just the actual calculated dynamic range

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:41 PM

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oh ok

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highest vs lowest point threshold?

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:41 PM

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lean grove Don't be fooled. He's just a sophisticated chat bot.

was he a prototype before chatgpt

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:41 PM

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basically yea

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:42 PM

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do mics actually differ in that much

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there is lots of cope about it regarding headphones

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:42 PM

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🤷 they seem to

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:42 PM

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even when super high dynamic range headphones vs compressed af planars have like 0.3dB differences between

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supposedly

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:42 PM

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there is nothing more cope than the audiophile headphone community

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:42 PM

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🤷 i somehow doubt that

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:42 PM

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my mate has measurements for it

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if you want I can give you his contact information regarding the subject

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:43 PM

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its just for playback theres no point in caring about the dynamic range of the playback device because it blows the snot off of the music you would want to reproduce

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noone really wants the gunshots to be perfectly reproduced

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:43 PM

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as for the test, there is the dac's measurements of the recording present, a measurement rig molded based on his own head and most relevant headphones measured

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and he didn't use square waves or other stuff to measure this, actual music with synthesis to figure it out

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:44 PM

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thats the problem

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the music itself doesnt have much dynamic range

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:44 PM

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he said between every headphone he measured the average difference is 0.2dB and the maximum is like 0.4dB

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:44 PM

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Klaus when are you getting your dan Clark's to prove us all wrong

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:44 PM

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ocean pulsar the music itself doesnt have much dynamic range

let me correct that

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he didn't just use music to figure this out

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he also used unrealistic methods for regular user play back as well

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square waves since waves

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you name it

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:45 PM

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well the next question is, what was the dynamic range of the mics he was using lol

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:46 PM

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good question

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I didn't ask him that but knowing him he accounted for it, which to you may not be a good parameter to go off of

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but if you were to take my word for it, a guy who has his own head molded measurement rig and tested at least tens of headphones with advanced synthesis and various tests probably took it into account

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:47 PM

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uh

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thats not how that works at all

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:47 PM

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I was just mentioning qualities for his level of testing and investment into the science of this

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not objective knowledge as to why his rig has a super high dynamic range

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I did not ask him about it

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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Invite Carmon to the server

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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it isn't a server

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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lean grove Klaus when are you getting your dan Clark's to prove us all wrong

nils he can’t afford that

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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unique wind nils he can’t afford that

Okay then you buy a pair for him moneybags

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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I can but I don't want to buy a low end can clarks just to say nils and carmon are dumb

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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sure

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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molten lotus I was just mentioning qualities for his level of testing and investment into the...

unless they are part of nist they need to establish chain chain of math

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:48 PM

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I literally have double the amount of organs I need

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:49 PM

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also since when did i say anything about the dan clarks?

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:49 PM

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its a joke

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stop pissing yourself

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piss boy

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:49 PM

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you should sell a testicle to buy a $$$$ dac

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Sounds like a bad deal

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:49 PM

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i don't think a testicle is worth a lot

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:50 PM

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maybe not yours

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:50 PM

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yeah it keeps hurting

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:51 PM

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topping a90d best amp

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(objectively)

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:51 PM

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e10 gang

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:52 PM

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i like to lead a fake wealthy persona in this server when in reality i make an average wage and make bad financial decisions

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:52 PM

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bad financial decisions is the only way to become an audiophile

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objectively

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:52 PM

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i think so

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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yeah i know objectively

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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i’m more of a videophile than an audiophile though

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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molten lotus I was just mentioning qualities for his level of testing and investment into the...

This sounds like Aura waffle....

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is it Aura?

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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nope

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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Ah ok

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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I don't listen to aura

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aura said it is impossible to measure dynamic range

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because of driver saturation or whatever

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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molten lotus aura said it is impossible to measure dynamic range

https://tenor.com/view/what-blink-gif-25806798

Tenor

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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goldensound i heard you love MQA

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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I worship mqa

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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unique wind goldensound i heard you love MQA

MQAbad

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:53 PM

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I sold my wife for mqa

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zendac v2 my love

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:54 PM

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molten lotus bad financial decisions is the only way to become an audiophile

nah
if you have big enough money, spending money on audio isnt a financial decision at all

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:54 PM

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molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:54 PM

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there is always

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:54 PM

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stereo separation processing go brrr

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:54 PM

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the peak is probably hiring people to research headphones to manufacture shit for you

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which isn't realistic at all but you can do it if you have to have an economical burden of audio

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😎

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:55 PM

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if you make enough money i don’t think you can do anything to make audio be expensive to you

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even fully custom gear in every piece with the most expensive materials possible is nothing to a multi millionaire

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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if you create a company big enough ofc you can

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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you can definitely destroy a millionaires wallet with video gear tho

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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imagine hiring like 10k scientists and paying them out of your pocket for a non profit company

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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Cameras, Coffee, Audio

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The holy trinity of expensive hobbies

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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you can definitely ruin your pockets if you try hard enough lol

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

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i’ve never had nice coffee

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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white gate The holy trinity of expensive hobbies

do cameras have any diy options out of curiosity

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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i’ve heard you can get some with zero bitterness though which is intriguing

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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like with audio you can tackle high end stuff with diy solutions sometimes

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is that at all possible with cameras

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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white gate Cameras, Coffee, Audio

cameras i know you can spend infinite money on
but there isnt really enough audio gear to spend infinite money on it

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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cameras are pretty anti diy from what i know

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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unique wind cameras are pretty anti diy from what i know

unless you pay enough

plain widget Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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white gate The holy trinity of expensive hobbies

of hobbies, on which if u spend more than 1k most ppl call you nuts*

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:57 PM

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yeah I can't think of a way to diy lenses and shit

plain widget Feb 10, 2023, 7:58 PM

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KEKW

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:58 PM

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molten lotus do cameras have any diy options out of curiosity

The cameras themselves I'm not sure. But lenses theres a TON of DIY stuff

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 7:58 PM

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ooh

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diy monitors when

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i will hand assemble 1440 pixels per row

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don't fuck with me

white gate Feb 10, 2023, 7:58 PM

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ocean pulsar cameras i know you can spend infinite money on but there isnt really enough audi...

Idk about that XD
Go to Munich high end and you'll feel like you're gonna go broke just LOOKING at half the stuff there

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:58 PM

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and for cameras there are a few open source projects

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:59 PM

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you can have custom displays made

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micro led panels are modular for now

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 7:59 PM

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but there are projects like the 9x7 thats a 150k basically just camera sensor

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 7:59 PM

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you can have them make one in the shape of a dick if you want

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oh i have an excuse to buy an apple dongle now

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since i have a laptop now for the first time in a decade

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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how can I hand craft a setup

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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cx31993 > apple dong

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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(house items only)

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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what if i want tim cook’s dong

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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objectively better

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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molten lotus (house items only)

its a bit more expensive than that

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:00 PM

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I own lots of wires

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that should help

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:01 PM

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tho if you are going analog camera, you could probably make an 8x10 camera by just buying a few chemicals

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I was talking about monitors tbh

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I hate cameras

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if I had money to ban all cameras I would do it

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:02 PM

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🤨

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:02 PM

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don'tfuck with me

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:02 PM

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you should boycott everything that uses a camera

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id bet youd last less than a day

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:04 PM

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after I become president I am banning everything I dislike

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including 6xx

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:04 PM

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dont think anyone would vote for you on that platform

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:05 PM

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you dont know me

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:05 PM

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no but i am aware of the political climate of most countries with presidents

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and ban 6xx is not a very popular platform

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:06 PM

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you literally have zero proof that I am not a president to be

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:06 PM

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free government mandated 6xx for all citizens

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:07 PM

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why would I tell people I am banning 6xx

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that is a bad campaign

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I must lie like every other president

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I will just ban 6xx after

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:08 PM

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if you have enough time to talk on discord, you are not dedicated enough to your campaign to win

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:08 PM

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no no klaus 6xx so good

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it scales with $$$$ dacs trust

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:08 PM

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you have no proof I am not already a president

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:08 PM

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if you were a president, you wouldnt have enough time to be on discord

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:09 PM

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i would probably

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depends on whether I want to be an actual president or a figure

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:11 PM

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is it normal that my brand new Shure SM7B sounds like this?

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its directly next to my mouth.

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:13 PM

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what do you have it connected to

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and is it a goxlr

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Nope. Focusrite Scarlett 2i2

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Huh

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Surprising

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:15 PM

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i was thinking i maybe got a bad unit?

weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:15 PM

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full cape Nope. Focusrite Scarlett 2i2

Got a booster?

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:15 PM

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Nope

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:15 PM

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I haven't listened to the recording yet but sm7b is super insensitive so most interfaces can't drive it without a cloudlifter

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anyways sm7b is a bad mic

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Return it and you can get mics that sound better than it does for 50$

weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Yeah you gonna need a booster for the scarlet

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Those which will also run on scarlet without a cloudlifter or anything

weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Cranking the scarlets preamps to the max is gonna bring in some noise

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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I got it 100$ cheaper than the MSRP

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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weak rapids Cranking the scarlets preamps to the max is gonna bring in some noise

Ah okay

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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it still performs worse than 50$ mics so

weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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Would recommend a fethead or cloudlifter

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:16 PM

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if you got it for cheap just sell it second hand

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:17 PM

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https://www.thomann.de/de/cloud_microphones_cloudlifter_cl_1_mic_activator.htm?gclid=CjwKCAiA85efBhBbEiwAD7oLQCI3cz46GcNrv8Jbj-Rp19gpw0Ueqwh80xZs0h5Vks7FFHpn8L3pnBoCkdsQAvD_BwE this?

Musikhaus Thomann

Cloud Microphones Cloudlifter CL-1 Mic Activator

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weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Those are the ones ive used before so ik they are decent quality

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:17 PM

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it's literally a bad mic that somehow got a ton of media reaction

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:17 PM

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because it looks cool and michael jackson used a prototype of it for thriller

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:17 PM

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molten lotus it's literally a bad mic that somehow got a ton of media reaction

the reviews ive seen say otherwise tho, thats why i got it in the first place

weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Its a good mic if you are using it for its intended purpose like if you are a host of a podcast with a lot of people and stuff goin on in the back

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:18 PM

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are there any other recommendation?

weak rapids Feb 10, 2023, 8:18 PM

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But if its just a mic for gaming/streaming not the best option

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:18 PM

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weak rapids Its a good mic if you are using it for its intended purpose like if you are a ho...

Its still mid

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:19 PM

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full cape the reviews ive seen say otherwise tho, thats why i got it in the first place

oh you mean people who get paid to shill items

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excellent

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:19 PM

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molten lotus oh you mean people who get paid to shill items

Haha no. ive looked on multiple websites. not only amazon

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:19 PM

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yeah amazon reviews are more trustworthy compared

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review sites get paid to shill stuff or sell them with affiliate links

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Because affiliate links bring in more money than telling people an item is bad on an article

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:20 PM

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did you know that glass is green

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:20 PM

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the only thing I can vouch that sm7b does well is it's pickup range and pattern being suitable for not having bg noise

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:21 PM

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ik lol thats why i generallly dont look on review sites but seller sites. like Thomann.

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:21 PM

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That is also untrustworthy because you don't know those people's standards

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If I were to give a person who uses a headset mic an sm7b he will say it is a great mic

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If I were to give an audio engineer an sm7b they would make fun of me

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saying I threw my money into trash

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:22 PM

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well, this is my headset in comparison lol

ocean pulsar Feb 10, 2023, 8:22 PM

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well no
an actual audio engineer would just tell you to buy a cloudlifter lol

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:22 PM

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Audbol didn't

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He made fun of me instead for asking if sm7b is worth anything

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Lol

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:23 PM

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alright. im prob gonna send it back anyways cuz i think i got a bad unit. Even if i crank up the Amp of the Scarlett i shouldnt get this "far away" sound

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:23 PM

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which I respect

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:23 PM

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full cape alright. im prob gonna send it back anyways cuz i think i got a bad unit. Even i...

It isn't a bad unit

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Your interface literally can't power it

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Because the mic is insensitive as hell

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Also the scarlett is not a strong interface

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:24 PM

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you’re probably getting a further away sound than you expect because the microphone capsule is a lot deeper in than it looks

#

the windscreen for the sm7b is massive

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:24 PM

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That explains the incredibly muffled sound

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:24 PM

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unique wind you’re probably getting a further away sound than you expect because the microph...

u mean that mesh thing to avoid pops?

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dont got it on

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Its built into the mic

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:24 PM

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ah okay. nvm

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yeah, im not good with audio stuff haha, thats why i was asking if thats normal lol

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:25 PM

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full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:25 PM

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So get a cloudlifter, check.

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:25 PM

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Just get a better mic for cheaper

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:25 PM

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or should i just get a different mic

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any recommendations?

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Use case?

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Streaming / Gaming

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:26 PM

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The thing is generally good mics pick up background noise

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I can recommend you xm8500, which sounds marginally worse than an sm7b

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but costs 20$ and picks up very little bg noise

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:27 PM

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i don’t think they’re looking for worse than what they have

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i know i wouldn’t be

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:28 PM

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here is an audio test for it

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this sounds a little worse than an sm7b

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 8:28 PM

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the best streaming mic is probably an earthworks ethos but it’s just as expensive as a sm7b

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:28 PM

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but costs 20$

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:28 PM

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molten lotus

Hmm. sounds good enough for me

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:28 PM

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and you can also run it with the scarlett

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this costs 3$ btw

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should tell you that good mics come very cheap

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well

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good enough

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:29 PM

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hmm. im prob gonna go with the Behringer.

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:29 PM

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go for it

#

if you can't be bothered with filtering out background noise with configuring a gate its an excellent choice

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plug and play

full cape Feb 10, 2023, 8:30 PM

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ah nice alright

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thanks alot

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 8:30 PM

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no problem

solar hedge Feb 10, 2023, 9:53 PM

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Hey guys need help with this

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Which one should I choose?

molten lotus Feb 10, 2023, 9:53 PM

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16 48000

unique wind Feb 10, 2023, 10:09 PM

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16 48000 always for everything

lean grove Feb 10, 2023, 10:28 PM

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solar hedge Which one should I choose?

Try them and see what sounds best to you

leaden cloak Feb 11, 2023, 12:59 AM

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solar hedge Hey guys need help with this

you can use up to 24 192k without issues

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i wouldn’t go lower than what the other two said

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 1:06 AM

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its just unnecessary load to use 192k

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not like anything really ever uses that much in a desktop environment

tranquil spindle Feb 11, 2023, 1:40 AM

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Guess the song.

leaden cloak Feb 11, 2023, 1:41 AM

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I don’t even know

tranquil spindle Feb 11, 2023, 1:44 AM

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Does this help a bit

leaden cloak Feb 11, 2023, 1:44 AM

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It does help but I still don’t know what it is

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Sounds like some old Saga music

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Sonic?

tranquil spindle Feb 11, 2023, 1:44 AM

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No

leaden cloak Feb 11, 2023, 1:44 AM

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I give up

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 1:45 AM

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that was a phenomenal example earlier of why arguing on the internet is the same as running in the special olympics.

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"but your facts don't care about my feelings"

tranquil spindle Feb 11, 2023, 1:46 AM

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leaden cloak I give up

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 1:46 AM

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although I do admit that audio gear is stupidly over priced

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 2:09 AM

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Skill issue

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:51 AM

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I think I found the most expensive headphones on the planet....

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Audeze sells them consumer for 4500, the other model is designed for noise isolation in mri machines. so 4-50x that price for the medical side

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80 to 100k is chump change to the medical field

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 4:54 AM

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molten lotus Audeze sells them consumer for 4500, the other model is designed for noise isola...

Sennheiser Orpheus and hifiman Shangri la have them beat by a fair margin

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Oh the actual medical versions

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:54 AM

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lean grove Sennheiser Orpheus and hifiman Shangri la have them beat by a fair margin

I was refering to the medical version

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 4:54 AM

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Yeah. Maybe

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But that's like

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Fake price

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I can make a headphone with tape and $3 drivers and charge $1mil for them

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:56 AM

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it cost me $1500 to self diagnose and get a .50c shot of penicillin

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If I knew better at the time, I could have gotten a $3 syringe and bovine penicillin

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 4:58 AM

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molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:58 AM

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literally same fucking factory making it all to the same spec and the bottle it goes in changes the price from .50 a dose to $300 a dose

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 4:58 AM

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Yeah American healthcare system is scuffed

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:58 AM

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It's fucked even more now.

#

the "affordable healthcare act" actually freed hospitals to become for profit

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which is just shit

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absolute shit

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it was terrible before but now it's like really wtf?

#

The soul of this country is broken, there is nothing that gives me hope that it can be recovered.

At this point it's just triage, save who you can because the whole thing is going up in flames.

tender frost Feb 11, 2023, 10:58 AM

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molten lotus Audeze sells them consumer for 4500, the other model is designed for noise isola...

Oh, the CRBN or whatever?

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 11:27 AM

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tender frost Oh, the CRBN or whatever?

12 hours later yes the crbn

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 2:50 PM

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why wont my mic work it has only one sound cabel im pluging it in but it dosent even show that i have a mic

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 2:51 PM

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can you provide some more details?

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what cable type

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connector

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what port are u using

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is it a standard 3.5mm jack?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 2:52 PM

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ill send a pic cuz i dont know

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_c55feb62-85b1-45ca-8d27-6b7b5628739a.jpg

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here

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 2:53 PM

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sonic mortar what port are u using

i only have one port on my pc

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 2:54 PM

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oh

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so the USB goes in the PC right?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 2:55 PM

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yeah then the rgb on the headphones start

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 2:55 PM

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so its not just a mic, it is a headphone set with a mic?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 2:55 PM

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yeah headphones whit a mic and only one jack on my laptop they worked

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and the audio works

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 2:58 PM

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well

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can you send me a photo of the jack on the PC?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 2:59 PM

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my case is bit broken

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_a9541d9a-40a8-446f-adfa-3f0d0e175928.jpg

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 2:59 PM

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wait

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does the photo of the cable you have sent contain only one side of the cable?

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I mean, if both the USb and the jack go into the computer

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:00 PM

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yeah but on the back of the pc it dosent have any jacks beside a network jack

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:01 PM

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well

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the mic probably goes into the black one

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tho you might chceck your PC for any software that might drive this port

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:01 PM

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i only have usp and the one jack i have

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:01 PM

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did you also plug in the jack?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:02 PM

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yeah

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:02 PM

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I have an idea

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do you have TeamViewer?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:02 PM

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i said audio is working fine but my mic wont work

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:02 PM

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sonic mortar do you have TeamViewer?

no but i can install it

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:02 PM

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okay do that

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I will remotely check your settings

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If you trust me to do so

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:02 PM

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ok

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:03 PM

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that would be the easiest way to do things

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:03 PM

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its new so i dont have anything in it rlly

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:03 PM

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good, should I send you the download link?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:03 PM

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sure

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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huh?

white gate Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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@sonic mortar@fervent hareDo not post teamviewer links

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Giving people on the internet access to your PC is a mega bad idea

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seriously

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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I know right

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he said it was new tho

white gate Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Doesn't matter

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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otherwise I wouldnt consider

white gate Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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don't do that here

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:04 PM

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okay then, sorry

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then what should I do?

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he obviously has a software issue

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:06 PM

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aight i installd it

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:06 PM

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we got a slight dilemma there

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I don't wanna do that if it violates the rules

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:06 PM

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we can do it in the dms

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:06 PM

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then again, I see no other choice.. let's do it

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nvm, lets do it here so they see i am not a scammer lol

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run it

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NO
delete it

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delete the message

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jesus christ

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send the ID and passwd into my DMS

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:08 PM

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oh

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:08 PM

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someone in there could hack u

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XD

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:23 PM

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@fervent hare

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okay I have closed the remote control

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do you perhaps have a jack at the front of your case?

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cuz the one in the back doesn't look like it's gonna work

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:24 PM

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that jack is infront of the case

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but i got a discord message switch output

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:26 PM

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nope

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:26 PM

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yeah it dosent work

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:26 PM

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listen, send me a photo of the front of your case

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:26 PM

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fervent hare

this is infront of the case

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:27 PM

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well here is the issue

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can you alsoí send me a photo of the ports on the back of the PC?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:27 PM

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yeah wait i have do charge my phone then

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:27 PM

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okay, no rush

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:32 PM

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lunar jackal Feb 11, 2023, 3:32 PM

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I never saw my tag on this I'm sorry. It depends on what you want. It's not going to be good at anything at all, but if you just want low extension in your vehicle as quickly cheaply and easily as possible go ahead.

I could put something better in every way together for close to that price, but it would require time and effort for you to install.

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:38 PM

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fervent hare

any ports under the ethernet one?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:38 PM

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sonic mortar any ports under the ethernet one?

No

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Bruh now i cant type anything it just random keys

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:39 PM

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well

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then you probably have to get yourself an adapter

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to convert the mic signal from the jack to USB

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since i dont know how else to help, sorry

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wait a while, maybe someone will know the way

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 3:40 PM

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Usb is for the rgb

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Cya

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 3:42 PM

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w8

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the USB is only supplying power for the RGB?

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 3:44 PM

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fervent hare why wont my mic work it has only one sound cabel im pluging it in but it dosent ...

you need a splitter im pretty sure

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most desktops don't come with a port for both mic input and headphone output in one

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so you need to split it into two ports

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check the back of your pc for a pink 3.5 jack port

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or one with a mic symbol on it

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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molten lotus most desktops don't come with a port for both mic input and headphone output in ...

i dont have 2 ports i only have one port

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like on the pc i only have one

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:17 PM

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weird for a desktop

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try plugging it into your phone and see if the mic works

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:18 PM

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is a dell office pc

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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molten lotus try plugging it into your phone and see if the mic works

it works on my phone and laptop

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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sonic mortar the USB is only supplying power for the RGB?

yes

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:19 PM

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i don't think your port does has a microphone input

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get an apple usb c to 3.5 adapter

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and get a usb c to usb a adapter if you don't have any usb c ports

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:20 PM

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i dont have usb c on my pc

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:20 PM

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read

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:21 PM

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why do i need an appel atapter when i use android

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:21 PM

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your pc runs on android?

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:21 PM

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no

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on windows 10 pro

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:21 PM

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I know it was a rhetorical question

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:21 PM

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but why do i need an appel adapter

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:21 PM

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because you don't have a microphone input in your motherboard

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:23 PM

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and i dont have a mic input on my headset but it has a mic

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:24 PM

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linuth

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just do what I tell you to and it will work

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:25 PM

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ok ill buy it and if it wont work what will i do then

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:25 PM

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it will

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:25 PM

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buy if it wont

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:25 PM

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if the headphones work on a phone and a laptop

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there is no possible explanation for it to not work on a functional apple dongle

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:26 PM

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yeah but what dose usb c have do to whit it i dont have a usb c on my headphones so what will i connect it to

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:26 PM

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its a usb to 3.5 adapter

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your headphones run on 3.5

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:27 PM

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yes they do

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:27 PM

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and the adapter I recommended you is usb c to 3.5

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what is the problem here

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:28 PM

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but where do i but the usb c if i dont have it on my mother board

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:28 PM

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get a usb c to usb a adapter

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to connect the usb c to 3.5 adapter

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:28 PM

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i think cheaper is do buy a wire less headphones

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:28 PM

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the solution I provided you costs 15$

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do whatever you want

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:29 PM

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well im not from america and in estonia adapters cost like 35euros witch is like 34 dollars

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 4:29 PM

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I can't account for your country's economy I don't live there

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 4:30 PM

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ik

sonic mortar Feb 11, 2023, 4:35 PM

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well I see it the same waqay

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USB-jack adapter is the only way to go

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 5:45 PM

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or just buy a wire less headphones

dawn ice Feb 11, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Wirless is cope tho

fervent hare Feb 11, 2023, 5:50 PM

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?

weak rapids Feb 11, 2023, 5:57 PM

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i cant go back to wired tbh

dawn ice Feb 11, 2023, 6:03 PM

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Personally, i like to have at least decent audio quallity

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So i dont do wirless

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 6:09 PM

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yeah contrary to popular belief I actually prefer to have good audio

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that's why I don't use wireless

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 6:24 PM

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speakers + wireless = 😄
iems + wireless = 🙂
headphones + wireless = uhh

dawn ice Feb 11, 2023, 6:29 PM

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All wirless is cope

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 6:30 PM

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yeah it is but in some cases the sacrifice you make is unimportant

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and you dont have to cope with much loss

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 6:40 PM

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dawn ice All wirless is cope

no

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wireless iems are pretty perfect

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so are wireless speakers

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wireless headphones are cursed

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 6:41 PM

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might be the first time klaus has agreed with me

dawn ice Feb 11, 2023, 6:44 PM

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Whats the point of wirless speakers

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Tbere literally stationary

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Why wouldnt you just run a wire

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 6:44 PM

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dawn ice Feb 11, 2023, 6:44 PM

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Iem's are the least cope of all wirless devices tho

weak rapids Feb 11, 2023, 7:13 PM

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molten lotus yeah contrary to popular belief I actually prefer to have good audio

see this is what i did, start off with really REALLY shitty headphones, get gaming headphones and they sound 100x better, and never use better ones, bam, they will always sound fine

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:16 PM

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molten lotus wireless headphones are cursed

good luck finding a retail lossless iem

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headphones can have alot larger batteries to support lossless data transmission

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:17 PM

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never said anything about finding a retail lossless iem

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but adaptive exists

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:17 PM

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yes but you can get headphones with lossless wireless

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:17 PM

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yeah but with headphones scaling with source gear is a present issue

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:17 PM

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same for iems

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tho the main problem with iems is noise which batteries do help with

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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I can't say I have ever heard iems scaling much but even if they did

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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but sennheiser has proven that wireless headphones can be top tier

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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in a desktop environment, wireless doesn't make sense

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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molten lotus I can't say I have ever heard iems scaling much but even if they did

its more that iems get absolutely destroyed by poor source gear

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:18 PM

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yeah

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you need stuff particularly for iems

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:19 PM

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molten lotus in a desktop environment, wireless doesn't make sense

i dont like sitting directly in front of my computer

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:19 PM

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and I don't care to invest in that

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:19 PM

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and i like my audio gear to be a bit away from my computer

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:20 PM

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cope then

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also how did sennheiser prove wireless cant be top tier

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I don't know about it

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:21 PM

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rs220

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or hdr220

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:21 PM

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yeah i don't know about that lol

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:21 PM

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its a hybrid of the 650 and 600 with lossless wireless audio

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i prefer the sound to both, and its a heck of alot more comfortable to wear

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and nowdays its about the same price

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:26 PM

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whatever you do you will always limited by the component space

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you cannot hook up a good dac or amp to it

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you will have to bear with whatever sound it has forever

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:26 PM

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but its perfectly matched to the components it has

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:26 PM

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there is no such thing

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literally

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:27 PM

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?

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:27 PM

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ocean pulsar good luck finding a retail lossless iem

lossless isnt that big of a deal when you're out and about, riding on a bus, or at work

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:27 PM

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have you heard of electrical engineering?

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:27 PM

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even if I spend 100k on a dac/amp there is no saying something is perfectly matched to it's components

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its literally preference

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:27 PM

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lean grove lossless isnt that big of a deal when you're out and about, riding on a bus, or ...

yea the sennheisers are desktop only

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their base is rather large and required

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:28 PM

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molten lotus even if I spend 100k on a dac/amp there is no saying something is perfectly matc...

thats not how things work

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:28 PM

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it is

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:29 PM

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what do you know more about cars or pcs

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:29 PM

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disproving everything you said would be as simple as hooking up an hd600 to a holo may and iha6 and giving another person an rs220

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and to get them to prefer the hd600 over it

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:29 PM

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thats the subjective side of things

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:29 PM

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woah

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:29 PM

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im talking about objective component matching

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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just like the entirety of the audio hobby

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nobody is going to give a shit if they don't think a headphone is good

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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there are non subjective things in electical engineering

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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no matter how well engineered it is

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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ocean pulsar there are non subjective things in electical engineering

literally no one cares if they don't think it sounds good

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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yes but objectively if the amplifier has too much gain, it will be noisy

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and if it has to little gain it will be too quiet

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:30 PM

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that is unrealistic unless if you have trash gear or super sensitive headphones

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and again

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no one cares

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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but objectively if you dont make a shitty amplifier it wont be noisy even if it has too much gain

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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lean grove but objectively if you dont make a shitty amplifier it wont be noisy even if it ...

thats not how that works

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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people want good audio

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I literally don't care if they make drivers out of childrens skin or whatever supertransducer

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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if you have a megawatt amplifier, you cant have less than a few watts of noise physically

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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I want it to sound good

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I am not going to pay for engineering I am going to pay for sound

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:31 PM

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ocean pulsar if you have a megawatt amplifier, you cant have less than a few watts of noise p...

how many megawatts do you use for your headphones carmonben

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we're talking about headphones

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this is audio chat

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:32 PM

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and audio is transmitted over radio

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:32 PM

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again

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how many mega watts do you use for your headphones

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:33 PM

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look yall dont understand how thermal noise is a physical property so i need to give an analogy

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:33 PM

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and with your desktop radio transmitter

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how many mega watts are you putting out

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is the FCC upset with you

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:33 PM

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you arent thinking

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:33 PM

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I don't need to understand engineering to say something sounds good or not

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I am a consumer

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engineering is not my concern

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:34 PM

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ocean pulsar you arent thinking

you aren't saying anything

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this is you. all the time. about useless fringe technicalities

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and then you dont even explain things.

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you just say "no thats not how that works"

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:34 PM

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you can only get a few million to 1 watts of dynamic range in an amplifier

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so .something miliwatts to 1 watt

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:35 PM

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you can put a hat on a frog and take pictures of it to get a lot of instagram followers

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 7:36 PM

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you can get 1 pooptrillion megafarts with 1mw with an amplifier

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this proves hd600 should be wireless

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:37 PM

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leaden cloak Feb 11, 2023, 7:37 PM

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lean grove how many megawatts do you use for your headphones carmonben

I don’t know about headphones but I do use about 1500 megawatts for my Aperture Science Heavy Duty Super-Colliding Super Button

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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molten lotus this proves hd600 should be wireless

you are thinking about it backwards
sennheiser made a great wireless version of the 600, so therefore its possible for it to be great

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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the only way that objectively matching gear makes sense is if you're trying to build things as cheap as possible. knowing that you're never gonna exceed these power limits, it has this sensitivity, the human threshold for hearing is this, therefore we can allow this level of noise

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alternatively there are a lot of audio amplifiers which are just well built

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:38 PM

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except thats not how electronics work

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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ocean pulsar except thats not how electronics work

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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a wire can only carry so much signal

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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right you're using mega watts of power for your headphones

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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if you are transmitting lets say 2 watts of power, anything under a picowatt is just gone

buoyant vale Feb 11, 2023, 7:39 PM

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only man with a properly powered planar Nodders

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:40 PM

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picowatt of intentional signal or unintentional signal

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:40 PM

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ocean pulsar if you are transmitting lets say 2 watts of power, anything under a picowatt is ...

within a certain frequency range that you can calculate and depends on a ton of stuff

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:40 PM

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lean grove picowatt of intentional signal or unintentional signal

the 2 watt signal would generate at least a picowatt of thermal noise

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:41 PM

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okay yeah

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but also

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who cares about picowatts

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:41 PM

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you do

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:41 PM

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not since i stopped doing research i dont

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:42 PM

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if your headphones are 100db at 100mw, 0db is alot more than a picowatt

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actually no its almost exactly a picowatt

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:45 PM

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funny how logarithms work eh?

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but really. if im listening at 100db, that pico watts aren't playing a role

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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but you arent listening at 100db

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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ocean pulsar if your headphones are 100db at 100mw, 0db is alot more than a picowatt

ahem

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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but your amplifier probably can produce that

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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but whats your point carmon

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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it can probably drive your headphones alot harder than that

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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what are you saying

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that an amp can produce pico watts?

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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the more you pay for an amplifier, the more ranges it can successfully reproduce

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/boom-mind-blown-mind-blowing-eyeglasses-gif-15569009

Tenor

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expensive things are better

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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but you will never be perfectly aligning the 6 decimals we can make a practical amplifier with your driver

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so if you actually go to the effort of engineering everything together, you can save a heck of alot of money by skipping the ranges you dont need

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:48 PM

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okay. i doubt your sennys are perfectly aligned.

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:48 PM

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sure

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but they are a heck of alot better aligned than anything else available at the price as a wired setup

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you also get the advantage of alot more stable voltage supply
and you could even use alkalines for even more crazy stable voltage tho that would be super inconvenient

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you also are sitting in the analog domain for as little as possible

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:51 PM

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thats a lot of really cool fringe technicalities carmonben

fading ridge Feb 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Hyper X Cloud Core 7.1 or Logitech G435, Which one is better for gaming?

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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but its also proven by the product existing and working quite well

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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the electronics inside are probably perfectly designed to take advantage of all of those higher limitations

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and aren't at all constrainged by budget, size, or the technologies of 20...10?

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:53 PM

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admittedly the 1 day battery life is quite garbage compared to what could be done nowdays, but they can recharge in less than a minute to full

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good luck finding iems that do a day of use after a minute of charging

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:54 PM

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because people keeping their IEMs for an entire 24 hours is a realistic scenario

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and not listening to music for 10-20 minutes is a live or die situation

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:55 PM

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i mean ive done it

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and i just swap between a few pairs of tws

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another big advantage of the hdr series is that you can buy multiple of them and pair them to the same base station

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:57 PM

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wait until you hear about headphone splitters

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:58 PM

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which dont allow each person to listen to their own volume unless you actually buy a different amplifier for each person

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or one of those multi headphone amplifiers which are very expensive, and you are still stuck to a seat

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 7:59 PM

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have you never seen a headphone splitter with volume knobs on them?

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they're pretty common

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not one of those octopus ones

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 7:59 PM

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yep they are either crap or expensive

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:00 PM

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alternatively you can have crap and expensive by having a 2010's radio transmitter headphones.

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:01 PM

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shrug ive tried the headphone splitters and the sennheisers
you havent

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you dont have to trust me even, you can look them up online

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plenty of reviews

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:02 PM

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whats your standard for good audio carmon.

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:02 PM

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i forget that im trying to find issues with the device

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if it makes me notice it, its not good

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:03 PM

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rs180 looks like a 500 series driver

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bloated

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:04 PM

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because it is

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its also an entirely different system

#

the hdr220 is entirely different from the rs1x0 series

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:04 PM

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220 is the b lue line

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treble looks fucked. hoping thats an artifact from measurement rig

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 8:04 PM

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its objectively good

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stop coping nils

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:05 PM

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you're right

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let me come up with 50 really fringe possible reasons why it might be good

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you can listen to it while on the shitter

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can't do that with wired headphones

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 8:06 PM

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sure cant

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get real

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:08 PM

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biggest advantage tho is just the not getting tangled in the cable if you are doing stuff

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you also always have the volume control immediately available

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:09 PM

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wait until you hear about dongles and phones

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:10 PM

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dongles on phones are highly inconvenient

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unless you arent using your phone

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but my phone i use as a multitool

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 8:10 PM

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its no different than using a wired headphone or iem

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:11 PM

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but its different from using aio wireless headphones...

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:11 PM

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audiophiles on their way to make music an overly complicated and expensive hobby when in reality getting beyond the human hearing threshold is cheap and easy

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 8:11 PM

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it isn't

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literally

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:12 PM

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theres a bird sitting on the powerline outside my house so i probably cant get clean power to my headphones

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:12 PM

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well. beyond human threshold yes. but you can still hear differences between gear

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:12 PM

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look i actually appreciate the stigma against the wireless headphones, it keeps the price down
but just stop making up stuff about something you havent heard...

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and the likelyhood of someone who doesnt like the 600 or 650 liking the rs220 is near zero

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:14 PM

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i just know that when you buy an all in one system you're sacrificing performing for convenience. if you want convenience, thats fine. but coming up with a bunch of useless metrics to pose against why these are technically superior to wired headphones is just as lame.

with all in one systems, it doesn't matter if you're able to objectively design an optimal component when you have to make them a reasonable price and a reasonable size.
the rs220s have so many bells and whistles that price constraints are a real concern

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:14 PM

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listening to my $150 iems plugged directly into my 2015 macbook pro with no source chain

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:14 PM

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but the rs220 is a more comfortable hybrid of the 650 and 600 that happens to be wireless

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:14 PM

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listening to compressed spotify music

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shriek in horror

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:14 PM

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so the dacs and amps inside them? probably objectively optimal. but subjectively not much better than what you find in dongles

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especially after 10 years

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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isnt the apple dongle dac beyond human hearing anyway

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in terms of cleanliness

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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depends on what they are driving is the problem

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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unique wind isnt the apple dongle dac beyond human hearing anyway

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well

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most features are

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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they have audible hiss on andromedas (dunno any newer models)

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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weird

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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their line out is inaudible

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:15 PM

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well.

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if you're using a $20 dac with $1000 iems

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then...

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lol

unique wind Feb 11, 2023, 8:16 PM

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if youre spending a grand on iems and theyre not custom molds youre actually mentally ill

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:16 PM

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i mean i assume there are cheaper iems that are as sensitive but i dont have any examples at hand

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:16 PM

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then thats what you could call a bad pairing

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if you're giving as much leeway for optimal selection as you're giving for your wireless headphones

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then there are amps and dacs out there which dont have hiss

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and also iems which are not ungodly sensitive

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:18 PM

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dongles are already inconvenient enough if you also need to add on one of those impedance matching resistor plugs thats gonna make it even more bulky

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wheras if its in the headphones you dont need to worry about that

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:18 PM

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wait until you see how bulky the base station is on the rs220

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imagine taking that with you on a train

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having to find a wall outlet

ocean pulsar Feb 11, 2023, 8:18 PM

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actually mine is usb powered atm because i lost the power adapter

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:19 PM

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oh you're right

molten lotus Feb 11, 2023, 8:19 PM

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nils using the most advanced mental gymnastics to cope about god knows what

lean grove Feb 11, 2023, 8:19 PM

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just use a usb battery power brick