that is a bit fair
#audio-tech
molten lotus
summer flicker
it definitely had a lot of things going for it that other open world devs need to take note
molten lotus
though
summer flicker
open world rpgs are so fucking stale its ridiculous
molten lotus
the game's bosses are on the bad side of bosses
almost all of them
it's simply too punishing compared to every other souls game
you would think this makes the game difficult but no
it just discourages players from actually trying to take risks to hit bosses
summer flicker
yeah ive been saying this for quite a while but they more or less leaned into the difficulty meme way too much.
molten lotus
definitely
you are not fighting bosses in elden ring, just running from them
if you hit them more than twice it punishes you instantly
and if you aren't building vitality its mostly a two shot you get stun locked into
summer flicker
d souls was never about the difficulty. difficulty was certainly used, but used as a narrative tool to highlight thematic peaks.
and miyazaki, the director says as much
theres a range to d souls difficulty
elden ring is just you getting bent over for 200 hours
molten lotus
not sure if I am convinced they couldn't implement more complex boss patterns but yeah it was definitely better before
even ds1 which had the same boss copied over like four times had better combat
well not better combat but, better boss combat
summer flicker
if the combat of souls games was generally more interesting, i would be more forgiving about leaning in on it so much with this insane difficulty though they have made strides in that regard.
molten lotus
I think elden ring combat is interesting
the issue is everything that makes it interesting punishes you for actually trying to use it
summer flicker
its just. good.
not great
d souls was worshipped for its combat
bad fucking move
molten lotus
think its mid
summer flicker
that game's combat was not that interesting
molten lotus
almost everything about weapons except for meta stuff just punishes you instantly
summer flicker
it was a culmination of things, the way combat tied into the rest of the game, that made d souls interesting
molten lotus
great weapons are a literal meme
molten lotus
it was a culmination of things, the way combat tied into the rest of the game, t...
true
it doesn't need complexity to achieve a skill ceiling
elden ring added that which was fine except for it was added in a terrible way
summer flicker
and it didnt need complexity because it didnt rampage you with bosses that seemed like their sole purpose was tricking you into dodging too early
molten lotus
yeah
I think the changes themselves weren't particularly bad but they are not balanced at all
the utmost difficult moves that you can pull off once a blue moon just give you a slight advantage
summer flicker
it rewarded you for thinking on your feet and essentially doing things that would make the boss easier, as opposed to ER whcih is often just a series of memorizing attack patterns and then finally beating something after several tries. That makes the enemies feel less human and more like a predetermined set of inputs unlike the former way of doing things
i say human, but what i mean is organic
like theyre a sentient being
thats part of the game world
molten lotus
I think the clunkiness took away from that element in the prior games
but still it being an appropriate fight although chunky makes it still ahead of elden ring
summer flicker
definitely
the controls where so shit. theyre gradually getting better but god
it did not need to take
like
10 fucking years
or something
molten lotus
funny thing is
elden ring apart from the new weapons still uses ds1 animations
have you noticed
every single souls game uses the same weapon animations
except for unique ones
summer flicker
uhh no. its more like ds3 to me
molten lotus
nah
the fluidity is different since ds3 and elden ring allows for more frequent swings and mobility
but its the same animations
take a broadsword and swing in all four games
its the same, the speed is just slightly altered
summer flicker
yeah theres a lot of reused stuff for sure
molten lotus
well time to wait for three years for another from title we can bitch about because for some reason they decided to remove everything that made the prior games good
more or less at least
summer flicker
i think ER is a bit of a return to grace honestly
in some ways at least
ds3 was just bland
ER actually seems to have some compelling lore to bite into and lots of really kind of incredible level design to deliver said lore
the fromsoft formula still stands the test of time because of its ludonarrative consistency. Things just tie into each other
the gameplay compliments the story which compliments the world, whcih compliments the gameplay
for example, it will put you up against traps in a dungeon, that will then put you on edge and have your eye darting from one corner to another, which further incentivizes you to find hidden passages, that lead to interesting secrets and extra story, world and lore bits
molten lotus
ds3 was just bland
id honestly take it over er
it had no replayability compared to er
still
it was linear and simple
and not a muddy mesh of features almost randomly thrown in
summer flicker
the linearity doesnt play to fromsoft's formula's strengths. thats a big reason why ds1 was such a great game, its non linear, metroidvania esque level design
ER is a return to grace in that specific regard
lots of the legacy dungeons and some of the lesser dungeons where just insanely impressive
molten lotus
the linearity doesnt play to fromsoft's formula's strengths. thats a big reason ...
nor does the open world play to fromsoft's strengths
between the two id pick the prior
er had better dungeons generally I will agree
but everything outside of that was just incredibly tasteless and bland
they are sceneries that contain nothing but look sort of pretty
something you would look at for a few seconds, maybe take a screenshot and move on
summer flicker
I think the overworld is a bit of a contentious point yeah. Its hard to say at this stage. it was a bit of a rough transition, some of the quests are easily missable because of it, but that can be easily fixed. The overworlds quality very much relies on your willingness to explore every nook and cranny with it. and if oyu do youll fine that its a really impressive overworld in comparison to most modern ones with again, lots of well placed secrets and bits of lore and worldbuilding to find
molten lotus
if you look hard enough you can find most stuff but that would take so much time
hence why ds1 did it a fuck ton better
it was linear yet versatile enough to keep things away from players to award the exploration
in er most places are just straight up empty
has some stupid item or a random enemy
summer flicker
if you play games at a slow place like me, you cant help but appreciate that. but i get not wanting to do that. i think theres value in that though. the fact that fromsoft is willing to design content that they know most people will miss on their first and only playthrough says a lot about their character
molten lotus
or some weapon that you will never use because 90% of the weapons in the game are trash that leads you to your death
molten lotus
if you play games at a slow place like me, you cant help but appreciate that. bu...
I would appreciate it if it was actually rewarding
summer flicker
it is though. because finding secrets in the overworld can lead you on a massive series of paths that leads you to something unique
this is somethign thats just missing in modern open world rpgs
games dont do this shit anymore
molten lotus
it is though. because finding secrets in the overworld can lead you on a massive...
its generally an item you never use
like I said most weapons in the game are straight up punishing
summer flicker
heres an example, you find Ranni's tower and all the subsequent shenanigans including the lake of rot and the Astel boss fight through overworld secrets
molten lotus
sure there are good examples
but for every good example I can mention 10 bad ones
this also exists for previous ds games as well but since they weren't as big as er it wasn't an issue
summer flicker
by bad though you just mean basically you went through a cave, maybe with some repetitive enemies and got something you didnt need. which is like honestly OK content and like, the norm for an open world rpg
its the things that it does that others dont which makes it an achievement
molten lotus
that is a bit fair but the balance is too off
summer flicker
yeah i mean again
flawed game
in many ways
but still great for the things it does very well that somany devs could take notes from
molten lotus
sure I am content with that statement
molten lotus
but still great for the things it does very well that somany devs could take not...
fair
summer flicker
i think fromsoft stepped in open world formula and basically just showed everyone how its done for the most part
clearly, again not without the typical fromsoft jank and issues
but still impressive
keen swift
how is the sennheiser pc38x, I am in a noisy environment, is it good for that or should I consider something else.
and do I need a DAC/AMP for it
dry stratus
I mean, it is open
so ofc it ain't good for a noisy environment
exotic yacht
thoughts on the jbl tune 230nc
haughty girder
how is the sennheiser pc38x, I am in a noisy environment, is it good for that or...
you'll hear just about everything around you
it's a good headset overall but not for noisy environments
I feel like impedance curves determines this...
leaden cloak
how is the sennheiser pc38x, I am in a noisy environment, is it good for that or...
They’re great but since they are open back they’re basically like not wearing headphones at all so you will hear the noise around you
If you can get headphones that don’t need a mic on them I would look into the AKG k361 and a mic like the fifine K669
weak rapids
Buy a $7000 mic for discord chat
unique wind
i would if i was rich
dry stratus
I would if I cared about others, had friends and spoke english
molten lotus
will not pay more than 50$ for a mic as a statement to society
even if I am a billionaire
weak rapids
Nah nah buy a $7k mic $1k interface but the mic requires insane EQ customization since its normally flat to give you perfect EQ opportunities but you dont know how to EQ
molten lotus
ill do 7k interface 50 mic
weak rapids
Rodecaster pro 2 honestly looks like a decent interface but like $900 CAD, whew
unique wind
id be more likely to use a $500 mic with $100 headphones
molten lotus
pov mentally ill
leaden cloak
I use a $300 setup with a $50 mic :P
unique wind
i just don’t like headphones enough to spend money on nice ones
my iems cost more than my headphones
weak rapids
See ive used “gaming” headphones for years and to me they sound fine, so if i make sure i don’t experience actual good headphones itll be all I need
molten lotus
i use a 1500$ setup with a 50$ mic
unique wind
and my speakers do too but that’s a given they’re larger
leaden cloak
I prefer speakers too I just can’t really use mine
unique wind
f
weak rapids
$20 speakers from Value Village
unique wind
you can get decent speakers for pennies used
and someone’s uncles old av receiver to power them
unique wind
i use a $5000 setup with a $60 microphone
molten lotus
i use a $5000 setup with a $60 microphone
do tell
unique wind
that’s my entire setup not the audio chain for my microphone
unique wind
the only thing i use for a mic is my scarlett
molten lotus
that’s my entire setup not the audio chain for my microphone
ah
unique wind
i didn’t even include headphones in the cost
molten lotus
if I had 1500$ to buy things all over again it would be significantly different save for the amplifier
unique wind
r70x and sundara are both goated headphones
molten lotus
i dont plan on spending $1500 on audio any time soon
unique wind
id like to try them both
molten lotus
sundara isn't good
its just a waste of money that is 150$ cheaper than xs that does a lot worse
summer flicker
heard mixed things about r70x too
unique wind
the complaints on r70x are the earcup size iirc
haven’t seen anyone say they sound bad
molten lotus
and the distorted bass
summer flicker
heard its kinda low res
molten lotus
you call planars low res so I don't want to get started on this
unique wind
how does one even determine low res
summer flicker
theyre not necessarily low res, just res capped
as in they dont get much better with source gear
unique wind
it might be because they ride on the slightly recessed side for treble
molten lotus
depends on the source gear and headphones
unique wind
might make people think they’re low res
summer flicker
its a general statement
unique wind
i don’t see your source gear improving resolution unless you were using terrible stuff beforehand
molten lotus
and need to be overdampened to be worth anything
molten lotus
i don’t see your source gear improving resolution unless you were using terrible...
it does really
unique wind
a lot of audiophiles use intentionally noisy amps
molten lotus
huh
unique wind
amps with high distortion levels on purpose
summer flicker
i think you mean tube amps
lean grove
a lot of audiophiles use intentionally noisy amps
That's not noise
unique wind
but yeah tube amps are included
lean grove
I don't think I know anyone that prefers a higher noise floor from PSU or hissing
summer flicker
the avr i use is rated for 0.3%
generally speaking most amps today have distortion levels way below the threshold of audiblity so theres really not much need to even worry about that
unique wind
i just don’t think resolution is a priority in this community with how often people shit on gear that measures well for sounding dead
molten lotus
I think you confuse resolution with something else
unique wind
maybe
summer flicker
hes talking to me i think
molten lotus
distortion doesn't necessarily lower resolution either
summer flicker
oh
molten lotus
it can make them sound a lot more smoother
unique wind
when you say resolution im thinking of low distortion and good detail retrieval
summer flicker
i just don’t think resolution is a priority in this community with how often peo...
its really not much of a priority. but really low res can be problematic
molten lotus
to me resolution is 80% smoothness and 20% responsivity to ensure the headphone remains unhazy
which can happen with overly smoothening gear
unique wind
intentionally smoothing the sound sounds like the opposite of resolution to me
different definitions i guess
molten lotus
it can just be a driver difference
unique wind
makes me think of antialiasing in video games
molten lotus
planars and estats are generally fast as fuck so they resolve a whole lot
unique wind
hiding jagged edges at the cost of clarity
molten lotus
you aren't entirely wrong but what you described falls into doing it too much
summer flicker
resolution is more or less just an overall feeling of that the sounds youre hearing are well defined. its not really pegged down to a specific quality
summer flicker
if people try to peg resolution to a specific thing, they usually talking out their rear end
molten lotus
yeah its difficult to figure out without hearing it
sundara is technically incredibly superior to the r70x except for imaging
but it has distorted and ringing highs which makes it sibilant as fuck no matter what you do to it
summer flicker
Sundara doesnt really have much res either.
super truncated, limp sounding headphone
molten lotus
its more resolving more than anything below its price point
unique wind
but it has distorted and ringing highs which makes it sibilant as fuck no matter...
my he400se is really sibilant to my ears too
molten lotus
that doesn't make it unresolving
unique wind
despite measuring lower treble than my iems
unique wind
do you want mine cheese
molten lotus
yes
unique wind
they’ve been worn two times
molten lotus
okay
molten lotus
my he400se is really sibilant to my ears too
you do like your bass a lot from what I remember
summer flicker
its more resolving more than anything below its price point
it isnt. hd6x0 line is more resolving.
molten lotus
so I can see you not liking 400se
unique wind
would having more bass hide sibilance
molten lotus
almost all of them
unique wind
because i don’t really get why he400se sounds so sibilant
summer flicker
have you heard all of them? on good gear? doubt
unique wind
it has smooth treble FR
molten lotus
why would I waste money on good gear to listen to 6x0 with it
id rather just get good headphones instead
unique wind
it feels like the upper treble is over emphasized as well
molten lotus
scaling can only save it so much
unique wind
the air frequencies
summer flicker
no you dont understand at all.
molten lotus
sure it scales and can get a lot better
but by that point i can get headphones that do that by default
summer flicker
it easily sounds kilobuck with the right gear. this is common knowledge
summer flicker
yes it is. broaden your horizon
molten lotus
koss ksc75 scales a lot
I recommend holo may and ferrum oor
also buy a warick aperio but throw the headphones away those are trash
summer flicker
literally look up hd600 and scaling together anywhere
molten lotus
just keep the dac amp
molten lotus
nah you are just in an echo chamber
summer flicker
nah you are just in an echo chamber
cope projection
unique wind
i wanna see that midbass driver thrusting hard as hell
molten lotus
if a midbass driver is thrusting hard as hell then it isn't a midbass driver anymore
unique wind
did it transform
molten lotus
if it moves hard enough for you to see then its doing subs
in which case it becomes a woofer
unique wind
no it doesn’t
unique wind
it’s still doing mid range at the same time
molten lotus
if it does low range then it's just a woofer
unique wind
it’s a two way
molten lotus
it’s still doing mid range at the same time
woa almost like a woofer
molten lotus
that's a woofer michael
molten lotus
no they aren't
unique wind
not 65-2000
molten lotus
michael if it does subs then its a fucking woofer
molten lotus
that’s true if you have a three way
😏
unique wind
not a midbass woofer that has to do both
molten lotus
I literally do
lean grove
Have you guys seen those new directivas
molten lotus
I hate hearing
unique wind
same i damaged mine on purpose yesterday
molten lotus
if not for the jacket they put on me i wouldn't be able to hear
lean grove
unique wind
really weird looking but i like it
unique wind
you can’t afford it anyway pooron
lean grove
Real ports
molten lotus
nah fake
unique wind
looks pretty porty to me
molten lotus
those are not ports
molten lotus
this
unique wind
buy a subwoofer poorons
molten lotus
lean grove
you can’t afford it anyway pooron
It's diy. Drivers are $80 each.
molten lotus
look
lean grove
molten lotus
It's diy. Drivers are $80 each.
I still can't afford it
molten lotus
thats a woofer
lean grove
It's a mid driver. And it's supposed to roll off at 200hz
molten lotus
die
unique wind
are these made for surrounds
molten lotus
post a 100 diy sub next
lean grove
They're made to be a 3 way with a subwoofer that's particularly good at extending to 200-300hz
molten lotus
to complement this thing
unique wind
up your budget pooron
unique wind
i wouldn’t want to have a sub crossed at 200
i’m not trying to have voices coming out of my sub
it sounds awful
molten lotus
me neither
I would either buy second hand or go with diy
id buy random sub drivers if I knew I could salvage them
h
should I try buying a car sub and placing it in a fake wood cabinet
try to unfuck it with eq
rew my beloved
unique wind
just up ur budget
unique wind
you already did give up
molten lotus
I would rather buy magnepans
molten lotus
you already did give up
your mom gave up
unique wind
elaborate
molten lotus
no
unique wind
molten lotus
how much do you bench
unique wind
6 wheels
unique wind
12x45+45
molten lotus
kg?
unique wind
i did that in 5th grade
molten lotus
it weighs more than what you gave me
molten lotus
i did that in 5th grade
i did that when i was 11
summer flicker
my dad is stronger than urs
unique wind
bro using kg and cm
unique wind
doubt
lean grove
i wouldn’t want to have a sub crossed at 200
It's a mass module not a sub 🦍
unique wind
ill fuck up your dad
molten lotus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709903980439928935/1060684100144480286/FB...
relatable
lean grove
I would rather buy magnepans
So you have magnepan money?
unique wind
i do
molten lotus
he said i should pay 1k for a sub
i said id rather to magnepans
and eq them into oblivion for bass
hah
@lean grove do planars work with amplitude for reproducing bass
unlike dynamics which match wavelength
lean grove
Huh
molten lotus
like how estats do bass
unique wind
me n ur mom
molten lotus
Huh
since estats can't reproduce 20hz movements by driver literally doing moving at a 20hz wavelength I was told they match it with amplitude and shit
20hz is a high frequency
lean grove
They're literally vibrating at 20hz
molten lotus
aura told me so I wouldn't be surprised it if was wrong
unique wind
i wanna vibrate at 20hz
molten lotus
watch me and ur mom
molten lotus
this
lean grove
Klaus a 20hz wavelength is like 100 feet
molten lotus
but objectively
lean grove
No driver is matching that
molten lotus
depends on how loud you want it to be no
could you imagine the skin of your johnson tearing while doing the segs
unique wind
that’s a bit too much biggie
molten lotus
english isn't my first language I don't know what segs refer to
the birds and the bees
unique wind
my first language is rizz
molten lotus
my first language is rizz
I practice on your mom
leaden cloak
https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-gif-25096943
molten lotus
my first language is your mom
molten lotus
lmfao
unique wind
i bet you don’t even know what 2018-AG37 is
lean grove
since estats can't reproduce 20hz movements by driver literally doing moving at ...
Estats and planars have a lot higher driver area. So they have to move less distance to move the same amount of air.
unique wind
20db is inaudible in most rooms
lean grove
That depends entirely on their power handling
molten lotus
i listen to music at 120db
molten lotus
20db is inaudible in most rooms
20db more
lean grove
I'd be more worried about your amp than your speakers tho
unique wind
klaus daily driver computer (he’s broke)
lean grove
How Klaus eats his hot dogs
molten lotus
klaus daily driver computer (he’s broke)
what a nerd
@molten lotus eats his pizza with a fork and knife
based
poorest snob on the planet
unique wind
klaus mainly eats porridge and fruits/veg grownin his garden
molten lotus
I'd be more worried about your amp than your speakers tho
I have enough headroom to do it for my current speakers
molten lotus
klaus mainly eats porridge and fruits/veg grownin his garden
meat is a delicacy to him
not sure about maggies tho
@molten lotus why are the pictures to your men sports magazine stuck together
lean grove
I just know Maggie's have a reputation for killing old school amps
molten lotus
interesting
molten lotus
<@456226577798135808> why are the pictures to your men sports magazine stuck tog...
i glued them
lean grove
Maybe that's also old school Maggie's
molten lotus
I just know Maggie's have a reputation for killing old school amps
mine is modern but why
lean grove
Low impedance + low sensitivity = high current
Too much current = pop goes the transistor
unique wind
use subwoofer mono blocks
unique wind
i hate when sensitivity isn’t measured in wattage
molten lotus
we should design audiophile hit squads to kill people who don't provide watt measurements of sensitivity charts
weak rapids
How Klaus eats his hot dogs
unique wind
i almost made that for dinner myself
just kraft mac on its own though
not sure what you put in yours
rugged plover
ketchup
unique wind
cursed
weak rapids
Really?
Ive never not seen them in a store that had chips lol
We also have all dressed which is a better bbq
rugged plover
what the fuck
unique wind
bbq is probably the best chip flavor
weak rapids
All dressed beats them
However they do become tiring after like 10mins of eating them
So you have to pace yourself
weak rapids
Yeah bbq always slaps
weak rapids
All dressed slaps more at the beginning but gradually gets worse
molten lotus
just pour maple syrup on your mac
unique wind
do you guys eat it
molten lotus
fake canadian
weak rapids
how does canada feel about cheesecake
We like it, I hate it
rugged plover
All dressed slaps more at the beginning but gradually gets worse
so it's not good
weak rapids
fake canadian
Ive never had poutine
weak rapids
so it's not good
Its good as long as you dont binge an entire bag lol
haughty moon
Ketchup chips are the best
weak rapids
They are great
molten lotus
they have good ones
but the issue is by like the 15th chip you get tired of it
which is nowhere satisfying enough
weak rapids
Yeah
weak rapids
Poutine chips?
Yeah Ive never had poutine cause I don’t like an excessive amount of cheese so
haughty moon
You're missing something really good
near stone
hullo. I am looking for the absolute loudest speaker you could possibly have that weighs less than 2.5kg
pls ping with replies
molten lotus
you have the same profile picture as @molten lotus
also I don't have any good input to what you asked 👍
near stone
biggie cheese stole my pfp
more detail on the specifics. I need the speaker to be heard from around 60 000feet way in direct sight no obstacles to reflect noise. I'm probably going to attach a horn to amplify it. any suggestions would be helpful :)
near stone
3kg is my weight limit for horn and battery :(
leaden cloak
why do you need a speaker for that
leaden cloak
get a tornado siren
molten lotus
i recommend a burn phone with some simple wiring than sound activated explosives
if you research for a bit it shouldn't be too difficult to understand
near stone
this is 2.3kg I could easily extend the horn out. also gives enough leeway for more batteries
leaden cloak
curious.
molten lotus
why did you buy a nitro for your alt lmao
leaden cloak
3kg is my weight limit for horn and battery :(
yeah turns out sirens are about 181kg that might not work
nova wagon
nah thats 2 different person with cake imitating biggiecheese
near stone
yeah turns out sirens are about 181kg that might not work
yeah doesn't work lol. I'd need about 50 balloons
I am the original biggie cheese the mods issued me a ban warning if I didn't change it
leaden cloak
china already got in trouble for sending a balloon over a country i dont know if you wanna play that game again
near stone
your name?
yes
near stone
china already got in trouble for sending a balloon over a country i dont know if...
I'm an ngo I can't be stopped
molten lotus
so why are both of your spotify names "a person"
and your xbox names incredibly similar
molten lotus
do you know him?
near stone
I am him
molten lotus
you have the same profile picture as <@456226577798135808>
Look at who’s pfp is lower res…
@near stone why did you copy my xbox and Spotify usernames lmfao
I didn’t even notice
molten lotus
you copied mine
Then why is your name cake
near stone
mods forced me to switch else ban
molten lotus
mods forced me to switch else ban
Why would a mod force your to change it if you’re the real biggie cheese
Shut up
near stone
you convinced them you are the real biggie cheese
bitter hollow
more detail on the specifics. I need the speaker to be heard from around 60 000f...
I'm pretty sure that's not legal to use
pallid wind
I'm not sure if this is the right channel but anyways. I just ordered the AirPods Pro 2 on sale and I was wondering if anyone here is using a protective case? My first gen one got a bit banged up over time.
tender loom
SO, my Sennheiser TW2 batteries are completely shot now, only lasting 20 mins at best and I need a replacement. What earbuds would I want to buy if I want good battery life and high quality audio? Also, are there any wired USB C earbuds that have high quality audio? Or am I stuck with wireless
tender frost
Sennheiser IE-200 and use a dongle
Or moondrop aria with a dongle
Unfortunately wired earbuds terminated in USB-C tend to sound like crap
queen ether
Has anyone experience with the headphone company repeat? They make repairable headphones but can't find reviews. Are they any good?
dawn ice
never heard of them
just stick with house hold names if you dont have tons of money to experiment
like hifiman
dawn ice
skill issue
dawn ice
have you tried hek v1?
dry stratus
And hekse only on warmer stuff
dry stratus
have you tried hek v1?
V2 ig
dawn ice
think you havent tried xs?
dawn ice
unironically, xs is the best tuned hifiman currently for sale
dry stratus
Moved too far away from the single place I tried at
dry stratus
Warm or brighter than arya?
dawn ice
warmer and a more lush sound
dry stratus
Og arya was actually a slight bit to warm for me, lel
dawn ice
less holographic, theres a weighty thiccnes to the air it has
dry stratus
Still one of my favs tho
dawn ice
yah og arya very based
apparantly one of the widest cans out there
tho need to shill out like 4k on an amp for that to be the case
dry stratus
Still weird how I liked hd800 but not hd800s
dawn ice
ive only tried hd800
not a fan but i can see why someone would enjoy it
it really doesnt work with metal lmao
dry stratus
Would take adx5000 over hd800 personally
Og Arya over both
Idk about stealth, haven’t heard
dawn ice
yah arya can be a straight upgrade to hd800
in every way
arya se is a step back honestly
it trades what makes og arya special for a bit of extra detail.... along with worse tuning
arya se seems to be prone to being shouty and piercing in the treble
i wouldnt buy arya se, i think xs is a superior sonic experience
dry stratus
arya se seems to be prone to being shouty and piercing in the treble
In what range of treble?
dawn ice
im really bad at picking out specific freq
so i couldnt tell you
all i can tell you is that it was piercing frequently
dry stratus
Tho I am not treble sensitive, just your usual 1.5-3khz range
Prefer it brighter overall
dawn ice
treble had the same tendency that og arya has off a really weak amp
where its just shouty af and piercing
dry stratus
Ksc75 9/10 fr, no bass
dry stratus
Planar bass good
dawn ice
it do be like dat
dry stratus
No f’in up my stomach with heavy rumble
dry stratus
Slam > rumble
dry stratus
DD hurts my stomach with the rumble
dawn ice
you just need the right song for it, as planars seem to be way more sensitive to bass nuance and they wont play it at max volume at all times
like a lot of dd's seem to do
dry stratus
Feels like sitting on the backseat in a car driven recklessly
dry stratus
Only ever heard L series and he1
Had the chance to try jade as wel but didn’t feel like it, sus was in the same room at the event
dawn ice
eh jade was mid for me
dont see a point to it over sus
at least jade 2
tho it does look epic
dry stratus
Iirc its mostly just the stock amp
dawn ice
owning jade is worth it for the looks alone
dry stratus
tho it does look epic
Its obvious what its look is based on
dawn ice
shang also looks fantastic but i wish it had that green-ish blue driver color
dry stratus
Jade dragon scales
austere abyss
Is HD-25 suitable for edm production?
dawn ice
oh yah, it actually does look like dragon scales
based
id 100% go for a planar for edm production
there is so much bass in edm
id want the most bass information i could get
dry stratus
Jade dragon scales are green and purple after all
dawn ice
based
dry stratus
Chinese dragon, chinese brand
molten lotus
id 100% go for a planar for edm production
hard disagree
edm has undetailed shitty boomy bass
there is no detail to be retrieved
id prefer thicker bass
dawn ice
i mean, just becasue a lot of edm is shit doesnt mean he has to make shit as well 😛
aight, arming n86 stack
if i dissapear for more then 5mins, call the fire brigade
molten lotus
aight, arming n86 stack
isn't it fine to run on hours end in ab mode
dry stratus
id prefer thicker bass
Tfw Hide everything disgusting about consumer music
dawn ice
yah theres a lot less stress on it in class b
doesnt have ab tho, either full a or full b
there is quallity edm tho, like deadmaus
molten lotus
take my previous statement but replace ab with b
dawn ice
i almost never run it in class a becasue it makes me nervous lol
even tho its probably fine since the amp is in good condition
obvs with a track record of being a bomb, i had it checked over and serviced before i started using it properly
tho i do still keep an eye on it every time i turn it on untill both power phases turn on xD
analog rivet
hi...
dawn ice
sup
unique wind
planar bass >>>
unique wind
hi
unique wind
hi
analog rivet
help
molten lotus
and idk how to use it in discord
select it as a device?
analog rivet
in the sence?
molten lotus
what
molten lotus
select the aux in device from discord settings
molten lotus
then something is broken hardware or software wise
dry stratus
obviously either hardware or software
what else
unique wind
looks like real ports to me
gloomy cave
Looking at some budget headphones for recording purposes, stuff like the Sony MDR 7506 and Senheisser HD25.
can anyone suggest anything else? Preferably cheaper? I know the HD25s have the SP and Light models I've seen going cheaper.
pallid wind
The second gen is a pretty solid upgrade. I was using the first one for like three years.
lean grove
Looking at some budget headphones for recording purposes, stuff like the Sony MD...
In-ears would be better.
If you want accuracy, etymotics are hard to beat
bitter hollow
well there's so damn many of them
and the most common market for those is probably relatively inexperienced people who want to stream
and that kind of person is much less likely to have the confidence to buy used
leaden cloak
How much are you selling it for?
bitter hollow
why are you trying to sell local, anyways?
leaden cloak
Well if you want to guarantee a sale you can lower the price to lower than the average. Otherwise wait
bitter hollow
there's not that many people who actually want to buy a used sm7b
well, then the possible market is much smaller
leaden cloak
You can offer no free shipping. Sometimes someone will bite that
bitter hollow
really just means that you eat the shipping cost
still, if you don't want the mic well
it's not like sm7b used prices are gonna increase anytime soon
red breach
do I sell my Shure sm7b for a re320? I find the re320 sounds much better for vocals and the proximity effect basically doesnt exist, but it also appears to pickup more sound from the sides and back than an sm7b
leaden cloak
Another person wants to sell their sm7b but the other guy disappeared what
coral tiger
Plenty of buyers on /r/AVexchange on Reddit, may even find a trade for a re320.
dry stratus
tfw a mic is overrated and used by every youtuber
unique wind
re20 > re320
dry stratus
re20 > re320
No mic > any mic, change my mind
dry stratus
Plenty of buyers on /r/AVexchange on Reddit, may even find a trade for a re320.
Adult vid exchange? What is “avexchange”
weak rapids
I imagine its audio visual exchange
weak rapids
I was close
open scaffold
Y'know what nvm
weak rapids
re20 > re320
The question tho, is it worth the almost $200 price hike
molten lotus
The question tho, is it worth the almost $200 price hike
no
stop wasting money on microphones
the most you should pay is 100$
unique wind
The question tho, is it worth the almost $200 price hike
yeah
if you’re gonna spend then spend, otherwise get a sub $100 mic like klaus said
molten lotus
spending more money doesn't get you better mics
unique wind
maybe if you weren’t using lofi gear to watch youtube video comparisons then you could tell the difference
i don’t recommend the re320 at all though because it has a big frequency response boost in regions that are unflattering to a voice
whereas the re20 is made specifically for vocals
weak rapids
For me I feel like the 320 sounds better than some more expensive mics initially for like the first minute but then it starts to get harsh
unique wind
also consider the earthworks ethos
lean grove
spending more money doesn't get you better mics
For every $1000 you spend on a microphone you become 1% better at flick shots.
unique wind
brb buying a neumann
weak rapids
For every $1000 you spend on a microphone you become 1% better at flick shots.
Add rgb lights and that ups to 11%
unique wind
holdup
i’ve been waiting years for the earthworks ethos black version to not be so overpriced and it finally is
might have to cop it
they’ve always charged $350 for a paint color but there’s a listing with only a $50 premium over the silver model
molten lotus
For every $1000 you spend on a microphone you become 1% better at flick shots.
gaming companies don't want you to know this
weak rapids
i’ve been waiting years for the earthworks ethos black version to not be so over...
Still $100 more than normal silver here
Nothing compared to $350 but like $100 i find is still too much for a colour
unique wind
rare otter
budget home system speakers?
lean grove
budget home system speakers?
Can you be more specific? How much do you wanna spend and how are you gonna be using them?
rare otter
for movies and music, and keep it under 300 or so aud
rare otter
ok thanks
novel copper
Can i use a passive mixer circuit like this to mix two amplified signals into passive speakers?
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/136134
basically i want to add an aux connection to a radio headset
unique wind
summer flicker
I wish I was joking. one of the biggest memes about planars is their linear, limp bass is somehow impressive when DDs have reached higher frequencies while being considerably more dynamic
half the time it's not even linear either.
most planars below the 1k price tag have drooping bass with 0 dynamics
dawn ice
depends on the chain, even he400se can have really good bass when driven off a good amp
molten lotus
I wish I was joking. one of the biggest memes about planars is their linear, lim...
Dynamicity is a meme
It's objectively false
There are measurements out there that compares dynamics of planaes to dynamics to estat
summer flicker
meanwhile foster driver headphones like the fostexs, emu teaks offer much better punch, and have more bass
molten lotus
Its literally 0.2dB deviated in average
summer flicker
dynamics is intangible
summer flicker
it's currently not been demonstrated that it can be properly measured on a headphone
molten lotus
It has
summer flicker
show
molten lotus
K
summer flicker
Dynamic range is mathematically absolutely tangible
I hope you realize, that dynamic range and macro, microdynamics are two different things
actually I don't think you do
which is fine
common mistake
molten lotus
4dB difference from the dac's output
On a dan clark which is argued to be the headphones with the lowest dynamic range
summer flicker
what the hell is this?
unique wind
people arguing over which headphone driver type has better dynamics meanwhile it has more to do with the source file and your amplifier
molten lotus
Dynamic range measurement calculated by synthesis
In an actual music
Not square waves or any test sounds
Top is dan clark bottom is stealth
Dynamic range is objectively a made up cope
summer flicker
dude what?
molten lotus
Micro dynamics and other stuff I do not know about so I won't argue about them
unique wind
the dynamic range of the source file matters 500x more than what driver type you have
molten lotus
Out of every sennheiser headphone and hifiman planar compared, there is a 0.2dB deviation in average
Well not every
But every one which matters
molten lotus
There aren't
summer flicker
you said one is dca
unique wind
senny has nice headphones.. like the 560s and the 600… and the 560s and the 600…
molten lotus
There is no comparison being made between two headphones
unique wind
and the 560s…
summer flicker
Dan Clark make dacs?
unique wind
and the 600…
dawn ice
only senny ill agree is nice is 560s
summer flicker
so the top is a dca headphone?
dawn ice
and maybe hd800
summer flicker
okay so what's the bottom
unique wind
hd800 for when you want to feel like you’re listening to music that’s being played on a speaker system down the hallway
summer flicker
so how does this prove that there's a similar dynamic range between planars and dynamics
molten lotus
This shows you the amount of different between the dac and headphone dynamic range on a headphone rumored to have no dynamic range
unique wind
i don’t even see how this is an argument they both play the music absolutely fine
unique wind
neither driver lags to a noticeable degree
summer flicker
so in the attempt to prove that there's no difference, we took a headphone known for having no dynamics and compared it to the output
do you see the first problem here
molten lotus
Of a dac
Which is not limited by dynamic range
This is just a test mind you
Out of many
summer flicker
ok so first point to address
what makes you think that dynamic range, which is typically associated with a file, is the same as macrodynamics which is a subjectively observed quality
unique wind
terror id like to hear your take on klaus’s opinion that the sundara has ringing issues in the high treble
summer flicker
it was heavily implied that you thought they where the same
molten lotus
I literally said I don't know about them enough to comment on it right above
summer flicker
the original discussion was about dynamics in headphones and then you started talking about dynamic range
which is different
than macro dynamic
summer flicker
so you agree then, its intangible
molten lotus
They are pseudoscientific terms
summer flicker
its just a subjectively identified quality
unique wind
this is why audio sucks
summer flicker
They're not pseudoscientific because they don't claim to be scientific
unique wind
half of it is pseudoscience and subjective observation
meanwhile displays just are what they are
every aspect is measurable
molten lotus
They're not pseudoscientific because they don't claim to be scientific
Fair
Still this doesn't make anything else you have said so far correct
I commented on dynamic range being a cope
I defended it
summer flicker
everyone knows that dynamic range isn't affected by headphones, that's totally past the point that some headphones absolutely do feel more punchy, tactile, impactful than others
molten lotus
I particularly said I am not talking about your definition of dynamics before
You ignored it
summer flicker
yeah I don't disagree with u there
summer flicker
it's just a confusion in terms
which is totally fair considering how close they are
molten lotus
Yeah I am fine with that conclusion
summer flicker
molten lotus
Regarding micro dynamics, I asked a person who is good in audio science (not aura)
This is what he said
Which was a few months ago
"Micro and macro dynamics themselves are elements of a recorded audio. Playback of these events is not so nuanced or mysterious if the recording is really good and FR is proper for the listener."
summer flicker
yeah that's because audio science define things differently than audiophiles
unique wind
i feel like “punchy” would be affected by earpad and seal on your head more than driver dynamics
molten lotus
Its impulse response
summer flicker
they really don't care at all about subjective analysis. and why would they, their job is hard facts
unique wind
ASR: 
molten lotus
Its a correlation
molten lotus
ASR: <:gigachad:836681508303142962>
Amir on his way to not seal any headphone
unique wind
amir on his way to make objective observations of headphones for 95% of the review with a small note about his preference and eq at the bottom
instead of making half the youtube video subjective observation like audiophiles
molten lotus
The issue is audio is subjective
molten lotus
So it makes a lot of sense to be subjective than cope about numbers that don't matter at all
summer flicker
serious audio science people also don't pretend like audio is solved, that we already have all the answers, and are fully capable of admitting that subjective analysis while it can lend itself to error can define qualities that are not fully measurable
lean grove
Your mom is subjective
unique wind
it’s just air vibrations
unique wind
Your mom is subjective
subjectively awesome
molten lotus
I vibrate your mom
lean grove
But numbers and measurements aside, macro dynamics and micro dynamics are definitely a real aspect of headphones.
molten lotus
The issue is we can't measure this
lean grove
And you don't need to
You can hear it quite clearly
It could be an amalgamation of several factors that is hard to parse with single measurements
molten lotus
I literally hate audio
unique wind
same
i think playing with gear is awesome but the battle between measurements and subjective observation is fucking annoying
molten lotus
It could be an amalgamation of several factors that is hard to parse with single...
Im going to amalgonate your mom
or something
summer flicker
And you don't need to
it's really one of the most immediately audible qualities in a headphone in side by side comparisons
molten lotus
Objectivity is a bigger cope in audio
lean grove
I can easily tell how crunched and compressed a headphone is after a few seconds of listening
molten lotus
Nobody cares about your 0s and 1s of a dac
unique wind
objectivity is easier
lean grove
it's really one of the most immediately audible qualities in a headphone in side...
Exactly
molten lotus
It is but it is also useless
unique wind
if you’re objectivity pilled you can just buy he400se and eq them and be done
molten lotus
You can't make out a headphones sound with objective knowledge
So why does it matter
Or a dacs
Or an amps
We don't have that sort of tech
Headphone fr helps ig since the differences can be huge
But for dacs and amps it literally almost never does
summer flicker
hearing how much softer sounding the 6xx is in comparison to the bs580 when they're practically almost identical tone wise was pretty trippy
unique wind
not being able to measure audible differences between amps/dacs that have flat FR isn’t surprising
99.9% of people can’t differentiate between several quality amp/dacs that are volume matched
unique wind
keep in mind i mean all people not 99.9% of audio enthusiasts
molten lotus
If its something subtle it may need like half an hour
molten lotus
keep in mind i mean all people not 99.9% of audio enthusiasts
Fair
Breaking news not mentally ill people don't care about their 0.1dB deviation
lean grove
hearing how much softer sounding the 6xx is in comparison to the bs580 when they...
But terro. I can't afford all these headphones. How am I supposed to have an opinion if the thing we're talking about doesn't have measurements that I can use to supplement my lack of real-world experience. /s
dawn ice
i mean, if you havent heard a peace of gear, then your opinion of it means very little
molten lotus
I can hear better than measurement gears
objectively ofc
best ears in the server
objectively
summer flicker
But terro. I can't afford all these headphones. How am I supposed to have an opi...
by going on reddit and pretending like everything over the 500 dollar price tag is a scam
lean grove
Klaus is a sharner alt confirmed
molten lotus
no im gyro
lean grove
by going on reddit and pretending like everything over the 500 dollar price tag ...
I've got a toping stack that maxes out measurement equipment. There is no going up from here.
Time to measurebait for Reddit karma.
dawn ice
lel
molten lotus
ever since buying an e10 my life has turned around
my wife came back
I won the lottery
dawn ice
actually got a d10
molten lotus
dog resurrected
id recommend it to everyone
if I focus really hard I can discern it from my apple dongle
Tbh dacs below 100$ are a scam
Coming from a modi 3+ owner
dawn ice
spending a lot on a dac is basically a waste of money anyway
the improovment you get is very disproportional to the amount you gotta spend
lean grove
DAC differences > headphone differences
dawn ice
DAC differences > headphone differences
so true. i run my razer krakens straight off yggy with xlr power taps
summer flicker
spending a lot on a dac is basically a waste of money anyway
depends on how far up you go and what types of dacs youre buying
molten lotus
I speaker tap r70x so I shouldn't be talking
dawn ice
idk man, after doing some blind tests, dac's really dont make that big of a difference