audio-tech

[haughty girder]

goes into headset mode

yep

[molten lotus]

you have any ideas to avoid that?

[haughty girder]

nope

I need to do some testing later

[modern blaze]

all that effort when the rode wireless go is like 120 bucks :p

[molten lotus]

please do test if you deselect the iems it will allocate all bandwidth to the mic

[haughty girder]

120 is like, 4 hours of work

[molten lotus]

we are trying to achieve good audio

[haughty girder]

for what

[molten lotus]

with a mic to strap onto the headphone directly

[haughty girder]

the obv choice here would be for me to stick with my at2020 (which I don't recf btw)

[molten lotus]

not some qudelix 5k microphone meme

[modern blaze]

the wireless go actually sounds decent, for the record

[molten lotus]

I am not saying that it isn't

[haughty girder]

where's the fun in that

[molten lotus]

there is a follow up to what I said

we are trying to handcraft a modmic wireless that doesn't suck dick

[modern blaze]

would sure be nice

every modmic I tried was trash 😦

[haughty girder]

LOL

Yeaaa

[molten lotus]

not surprised

the odds of me buying this random lav mic for 3$ has a significantly higher chance of sounding better than a modmic

[modern blaze]

lol

[haughty girder]

modmic is a one of a kind product unfortunately so they can do whatever they want

[modern blaze]

I tried way too many mics and interfaces before ending up with the wireless go

[haughty girder]

vmoda has a better sounding one but it mounts using a 3.5mm jack for stuff like shp9500

Audio Technica used to have a wired one but got discontinued and that one was fucking expensive

[molten lotus]

its difficult to imagine how literally no headset/modmic manufacturer has the ability to import like 2 billion mic pods from ali for 2 cents

[haughty girder]

the issue is probably that you could get entire headset for like 5 bucks and most people are fine with it

[lean grove]

The shitty sound quality comes from the noise cancelling aspect.

If you put them in omni like a lapel mic they're not that bad

[modern blaze]

I (and 2 others I know) had major issues with them building up static electricity or something

[molten lotus]

i don't think the bandwidth worked

or the thing has a really fucking shit mic

which is entirely plausible

[haughty girder]

don't they just usually just use vents for phasing or sth

it's weird I haven't looked into it as much as I should've

[molten lotus]

@lean grove any idea where to cheaply source a mic only bluetooth transmitter from

[lean grove]

I don't know anything about audio sorry

[molten lotus]

thanks that helps

[lean grove]

Well I just know that when you switch a modmic into omni mode, it sounds 10x better. And the same goes for tiny mics.

[molten lotus]

that is true

they still sound bad by 5$ lav mic standards though

[leaden cloak]

Headsets are very good at copying aspects of aviation headsets. Giant mic that goes in front of your face, noise canceling mic, sometimes noise canceling, and of course expensive

[sinful niche]

I have no concept, is a 40w speaker a lot for a single room?

[modern blaze]

Is the room 10 square feet? 200? 1000?

[molten lotus]

that doesn't say anything meaningful

[sinful niche]

100sq ft

[molten lotus]

no I meant the watt ratings

[sinful niche]

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/speakers/z333-speaker-system-subwoofer.980-001203.html

[molten lotus]

that is a bad system

that much I can tell you

also watts are meaningless

I could make a 1000w speaker less louder than that system

and I could make a 10w system that is a lot louder than it

[slim mason]

I do know that my 400W bose home theatre is way fucking overkill for my room

[molten lotus]

it doesn't tell you how many watts into x ohms it is

it could be 400w to 0.1 ohms

[slim mason]

Over 30% volume and its too loud, and this is from someone who goes to metal concerts actively

[unique wind]

starkesound sells some scary subwoofers

ones that are like 2700w rms

[slim mason]

Devialet bluetooth speakers tho

Arent they like 5000W or something

[unique wind]

https://www.starkesound.com/detail.html?id=35

2500w rms 6400w peak

how do you even power that

[unique wind]

i haven’t heard of them

oh no i’ve definitely seen the devialet phantom

[slim mason]

Let me tell you, they are black magic

My friend has one and the bass goes wayyyyy too low and loud for a speaker that size

Its nuts

[fading ridge]

Are the Reddragon GS520 Anvil good?

[slim mason]

Everything reddragon makes is bad pretty much

[unique wind]

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-JPqokEI7XMB/p_285P1108OP/Devialet-Phantom-I-108dB-Op-ra-de-Paris.html?XVINQ=GZ0&XVVer=1BJH&awcr=628373669273&awdv=m&awnw=g&awug=9005257&awkw=pla-1158532603820&awmt=&awat=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkr2q94Hz_AIVUOHICh2DdwrMEAQYASABEgL7__D_BwE

1100w lmao

[molten lotus]

my amplifier can push out one billion watts

at 0.0000001 ohms

[unique wind]

nice

[slim mason]

I think thats the small version

[fading ridge]

Why do you say so?

[molten lotus]

sound bad

[unique wind]

not everything but most of their stuff is not good

[molten lotus]

not good

[leaden cloak]

Ah I remember that speaker on unbox therapy

[fading ridge]

In my country we do not have a wide collection of speakers.

[molten lotus]

good enough not to buy

[molten lotus]

budget

[fading ridge]

There is Reddragon and Zebronics💀

[haughty girder]

A 25w guitar amp is enough for even small gigs. But not enough for a home theatre receiver. It depends.

[haughty girder]

keyboards are fine

[unique wind]

i wonder what the max power handling of the klipsch lascala is

[fading ridge]

Isn't it good for budget?

[slim mason]

Rk and akko exists

[haughty girder]

by no means good, but it's serviceable

[haughty girder]

at 30 bucks?

[molten lotus]

oh my god

can you give me your budget for speakers in currency units

[unique wind]

100w rms 400w peak

[slim mason]

At sub 50 bucks

[unique wind]

that’s probably ungodly loud with how efficient they are

[leaden cloak]

How much money do you want to spent on speaker is what he means

[molten lotus]

pebble?

[unique wind]

105db with 1w lmao

[slim mason]

In keyboards :D

[molten lotus]

oh

[modern blaze]

pebble are surprisingly good for the budget and size

[molten lotus]

they are alright

[modern blaze]

for cheap little things they're great. Not studio monitors by any means

[fading ridge]

Like 30$?

[molten lotus]

get creative pebbles

if you can't I am out of ideas

[leaden cloak]

This looks like a cabinet lol

[molten lotus]

edifiers start existing shortly after the edifier price bracket

[slim mason]

I have some old ass logitech speakers I should give away to someone who needs em

[molten lotus]

especially if you are getting the 2.1 version of the pebbles

[haughty girder]

akko doesn't exist sub 50, RK61 does but that's... still 35% more than K552 for a wireless 61% instead of having actual Function esc and arrow keys

[sinful niche]

So for $120 edifier mr4s would be a good bang for the buck?

https://www.edifier.com/product-mr4.html

[fading ridge]

^^ if you missed it

[unique wind]

true

[haughty girder]

is this usd or cad

lol

[fading ridge]

US

[molten lotus]

they would

[modern blaze]

If you are getting the 2.1 version, you're missing the point (UNLESS you need them due to size constraints, imo)

[molten lotus]

fair

[molten lotus]

he was talking to me

[haughty girder]

2.1 version was like, 35 bucks no?

it's fine for the cost

and size

[molten lotus]

aren't they like 50

[haughty girder]

50cad

[fading ridge]

wdym?

[unique wind]

pebble 2.1 is $50

[haughty girder]

rly

[molten lotus]

cad or usd

[unique wind]

pebble 2.0 is $17-30

usd

[haughty girder]

I find em for 50cad new

[molten lotus]

he was talking to me regarding mr4s

[unique wind]

sounds about right

[molten lotus]

huh

ig it would make sense for you to get them

[haughty girder]

I don't need em

[molten lotus]

but for 50usd you are shortly below edifier territory

[haughty girder]

but I've recced to a few friends

[molten lotus]

so it doesn't make sense to buy them

[fading ridge]

Oh ok.

[modern blaze]

I have pebble v3's (around €40) on my desk, purely due to size constraints. Otherwise I would be using edifier or krk's.

[unique wind]

brilliant review from natemando

[molten lotus]

this is groundbreaking

[unique wind]

the verdict is in

[molten lotus]

I am using mission 720 purely because of budget restraints

[haughty girder]

aiyaaa

it's true tho

[slim mason]

200iq, if you listen to black metal thats recorded in a toilet then any sound system sounds ass

[haughty girder]

if you listen to garbage no matter what your setup is it's gonna be garbage

[unique wind]

true metal is gonna sound bad on anything that doesn’t have an extreme bass boost

[modern blaze]

The pebbles only get used when my wife or one of the kids want to watch me game anyway, otherwise I am headphones all day

[haughty girder]

finally, someone calling a play a reasonable iq instead of OH MAH GAWD 10000 IQ

[fading ridge]

the time to make our own speaker has come

[haughty girder]

so, how's that indicator light

cause the one on the 2.1 is basically a flashlight lmao

[molten lotus]

go for it

[modern blaze]

The blue led next to the volume knob?

[haughty girder]

yes

[molten lotus]

a good idea actually

lots of schematics out there

[modern blaze]

It's, uh, blue

[haughty girder]

how bright is it

[molten lotus]

but the odds are sourcing the wood to build the cabinets would cost more than 30$

[modern blaze]

thanks, now I have afterimage on my right eye

[molten lotus]

and the drivers would cost around 70$ with shipping and imports at the very least

[haughty girder]

3d printing baby

[molten lotus]

cabinet bro

you aren't 3d printing a cabinet

[haughty girder]

is it actually that bad on v3 tho?

cause V2 is actually like that

it's really bright

[molten lotus]

if you have like the car window darkening things you can use those

[modern blaze]

it isnt all that bright, honestly. My eyes are mega light sensitive, side effect of my contacts

[haughty girder]

it's like my power bank which also is basically a flashlight for indicators

[molten lotus]

I have one on my modi 3+

[haughty girder]

ah

[modern blaze]

electrical tape will suffice, I know if they are on :p

[haughty girder]

ye I recommend electrical tape with a tiny slit cut into it

[unique wind]

i hate when products have blindingly bright leds that can’t be turned off

[molten lotus]

car window filter better

[haughty girder]

which is the case for the pebbles v2 and 2.1

[molten lotus]

looks pleasing too

[modern blaze]

hell, I am still getting used to the brightness on this alenware qd-oled

[haughty girder]

black tape is invisible

[unique wind]

the only acceptable light is a dim amber

[molten lotus]

with the lights turned off

[unique wind]

?

as in its its dim or bright

[modern blaze]

bright

[molten lotus]

bright

[unique wind]

surprising

[molten lotus]

time to kill michael

[unique wind]

i use the alienware aw3423dwf too

[molten lotus]

society surpassed the need for michael

no more

[unique wind]

usually 75% brightness or 38% brightness

[molten lotus]

why don't you use some bitches

[unique wind]

i do

[molten lotus]

that's horrible don't objectify women

[modern blaze]

mine is on some hdr setting. I did note above that I'm light sensitive :p

[unique wind]

oh if you’re on hdr that’s not surprising

[haughty girder]

please don't bring this up

it's gotten to the point where people saying "my girlfriend" is taboo

because it's like "you own her" or whatever

[modern blaze]

Previous display was the LG 49WL95C, so this thing burns in my retinas :p

[unique wind]

hdr can be anywhere from 2-5x as bright

you should use sdr if it’s hurting your eyes

[haughty girder]

it's like fuck no it's a about me being responsible for her safety kr whatever

[molten lotus]

who tf says that lmao

[haughty girder]

yeaaa

You'd be surprised

it's so annoying

[lean grove]

Folded bass horn 🤤

[lean grove]

Klipsch is very generous with their efficiency. It's probably closer to 100 db/watt.

[modern blaze]

pretty though

[lean grove]

And badass

[modern blaze]

Indeed

[unique wind]

klipsch midscala

klipsch jubilee is where it’s at

[modern blaze]

My klipsch are way, way, way lower end, just 4x r51m's and a reference center, but damn they pretty 😄

[lean grove]

Cornscala

[modern blaze]

(and the room my HT is in is only like 250sqft)

[lean grove]

https://ampsandsound.com/pages/ampsandsound-cornscala

[molten lotus]

jesus christ

this has to be the most expensive diy speaker ive seen

if I have this much to pay for speakers I probably could as well spare another 500 to have someone build it for me

[lean grove]

I've got a much cheaper version of them. Cost $700 for the pair

[molten lotus]

is the price difference worth it

at all

[lean grove]

Haven't heard the nicer versions.

They need a good room.

And there's inherent design problems with asking a 12 inch woofer to play up to 1.6khz.

So a nicer woofer or a nicer horn crossed over a lower point would be way way way better

[modern blaze]

part list said 15's

[lean grove]

Whoops yeah 15s

Ive got 15s too

[molten lotus]

hand over the k1k already

[lean grove]

Buy it

[molten lotus]

not for 1000$

[lean grove]

Yeah for $1050

[molten lotus]

ill do you 200$

[lean grove]

Rebuilding these is eventually gonna happen. I gotta pay a professional cabinet maker.

[modern blaze]

I haven't looked at custom audio in literally 25 years, when I restored an old console stereo and added in more than a couple 12's with massive magnets from MCM

[lean grove]

Someone with a CNC router

[lean grove]

If you want bang for buck, diy audio is the way to go

[molten lotus]

id like to build my speakers but sourcing drivers is hell in here

[lean grove]

Or if you want some batshit crazy speakers that aren't available

[molten lotus]

at most I can do aliexpress drivers

[modern blaze]

I am a simple man, and perfectly happy with my klipsch stuff these days.

[lean grove]

Ali express has decent stuff sometimes

[molten lotus]

I doubt any diy schematics use ali drivers exclusively

any good ones at least

would likely be easier to cop some decent vintages and replace caps than to build a bad speaker

[lean grove]

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/asr-directiva-open-source-speaker-review.27094/

[modern blaze]

MCM Electronics sure felt like a USA based ali back in the day

[lean grove]

Parts express is the common source right now

[molten lotus]

wow 40hz

[lean grove]

Diy speaker btw

$1400 in parts

[molten lotus]

that shit costs 1400 per pair

[modern blaze]

I think I paid like 40 bucks per driver for those 12's in the late 90's. Dual coil, poly cone, like 8 or 10 lb magnets, supposedly 25hz response

[lean grove]

That's on par with studio monitors. And on the plus side you get to use your own amp.

[modern blaze]

It was not balanced audio in ANNNNNNNNY way, but they sure did bump, which was about all my teenage self really cared about 😄

[molten lotus]

studio monitors is a very loose parameter

[lean grove]

Genelec

Neumann

The ruler flat memes

[molten lotus]

I feel like it defeats the point of diy at 1400usd

I could get magnepans at that sum

linear sub bass

why would I get some diy shelves

[lean grove]

Have fun running Maggie's at a desk

And also you're not gonna get linear bass out of Maggies out of the box

[molten lotus]

the trick is called a measurement mic

or umik-1 if you live in a reputable country

[lean grove]

You can accomplish the same thing with any speaker that way too

[molten lotus]

you can't eq technicalities into a speaker

I have experienced that 1st hand

nor can you eq in linear bass in a way that works well

not without blowing a tweeter or taking away driver responsiveness

[lean grove]

Well that's not just linear bass

[molten lotus]

true

but linear bass is the most difficult thing to establish in speakers with poor bass response

[lean grove]

You say "I want Maggie's for linear sub bass"
Not "I want Maggie's for transients, texture, and staging"

[molten lotus]

that too of course

but linear bass is difficult to achieve for most speakers including floor standers at 1400$

except diy stuff I don't know about those

but 1400$ shelves doesn't make sense

I could source maggies and a subwoofer that hits 20hz easily for 1400$

[lean grove]

The directives I linked are linear to 30hz ish

Which is firmly in the sub bass

[molten lotus]

they are 40hz

well

I suppose a 5dB fall off to 30hz is fine

[lean grove]

Ah yeah you're right

[molten lotus]

still, they aren't going to beat maggies with a subwoofer

[lean grove]

40hz

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Really bass becomes a non issue when you incorporate a subwoofer

I'd worry more about linear dynamics and dispersion at that point

[molten lotus]

true

[lean grove]

Maggie's beam quite a bit.

That massive panel works against it in that regard

[molten lotus]

yeah I need room treatment if I am using maggies, absolutely

my current big ass speakers are in a corner with one side being a concrete pillar an the other being a glass window

very cursed

[lean grove]

For me I'd spend $1400 on just the subwoofers for my endgame speaker setup.

[molten lotus]

layering literally doesn't exist for them

maybe I should install some really thick curtains

[tough lava]

I used to have bookshelves and a sub. Now I have full range and a sub

Only downside is cost and disturbing others.

[molten lotus]

hot

I wish the vintage jbls were worth anything

the ones with the cool boxy front covers

[unique wind]

i’ll put two of those birch ones on my desk

[lean grove]

I need to hear some spatials

[lean grove]

That would be a very big desk

[molten lotus]

do the black bits at the back of the birch speakers have any meaning

[lean grove]

That's the port

[molten lotus]

five of them?

[lean grove]

https://www.lii-audio.com/product/one-pair-10-inch-full-range-drivers-and-cabinets-complete-official-speakers/

[lean grove]

Yup

[molten lotus]

those aren't real ports bro

[unique wind]

i’m a sealed fanboy

everything must be sealed

[molten lotus]

I hate good audio

[lean grove]

Oh yeah I forgot. It's only a real port if it's a single PVC pipe.

Ports come in all shapes and sizes

[unique wind]

sealed sounds better imo

[molten lotus]

those are not ports

[unique wind]

says who

[modern blaze]

I've always been a dual bandpass kinda guy

[molten lotus]

they are lying to you

[unique wind]

they’re in your walls klaus

[molten lotus]

at least they aren't in my speakers

they are 100% sealed

[molten lotus]

did it took you a lot of time to find a made up language font at fonthub

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382801814547988481/1070146061018083438/Origin-S-10-5-200x200.jpg

[molten lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382801814547988481/1070146122749837363/image0.jpg

[lean grove]

Looks porty to me

[molten lotus]

those aren't ports

[lean grove]

You're not ports

[molten lotus]

yeah I am sealed

[unique wind]

looks pretty porty to me

[molten lotus]

those aren't ports

[unique wind]

looks pretty porty to me

[lean grove]

I bet you I could find at least one opening.

[molten lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/382801814547988481/1070145913550549022/official1.jpg

[modern blaze]

lul

[molten lotus]

these pieces are literally floating

couldn't find a faker schematic

[modern blaze]

Any suggestions for workshop speakers? Loud, strong bass, preference for sealed because sawdust.

[lean grove]

Klaus doesn't know how plans work

[molten lotus]

no no

this is fake

those aren't ports

think about it logically if you placed wood in the air it would fall

this is why we use nails

[unique wind]

sealed bookshelves and sealed sub

[lean grove]

Klaus doesn't know I live in liquid mercury

[molten lotus]

unsealed bookshelves and unsealed sub

[unique wind]

speakers with the biggest port you can find

[molten lotus]

this

[unique wind]

i recommend these for shop speakers

[modern blaze]

yes, let's fill them with sawdust and metal shavings as quickly as possible

[molten lotus]

skill issue

[lean grove]

JBL has some Bluetooth speakers with passive radiators. They're usually waterproof, so I bet you they're sawdust proof too.

[molten lotus]

they have grills

not going to be fun

[unique wind]

you have no girls

and also

[molten lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1017030715218591874/1017381667612135516/1655075164248.gif

[sinful niche]

should i play music via FLAC or WAV?

or mp3 😛

[molten lotus]

flac and wav thing are the same thing except one is uncompressed

[haughty girder]

clearly inexperienced normie

[molten lotus]

just stick to spotify it literally matters so little you shouldn't care

[haughty girder]

^

[lean grove]

Listen to all three of them and figure out which you like best

[unique wind]

lmaoo

[lean grove]

Like you might as well ask what color your keyboard should be.

[molten lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803236371212271656/962079014296649778/ezgif-4-70118e4222.gif

[molten lotus]

im saving that

[mortal umbra]

lmao

[sinful niche]

I hate the lifespan on a pair of speakers?

[molten lotus]

whut

bluetooth?

[haughty girder]

lifespan?

[sinful niche]

For like the edifiers

[haughty girder]

even Bluetooth you can just replace the battery

[sinful niche]

How long they’d last

[haughty girder]

uh...

[molten lotus]

🤔

[haughty girder]

probably longer than you would want to keep them

[modern blaze]

😕

[haughty girder]

some things just don't die

[sinful niche]

Good enough answer for me!

[molten lotus]

one day at most

[haughty girder]

LOL

[sinful niche]

Yeah idk anything about audio equipment

[molten lotus]

could probably use them for a good concerto or something

[haughty girder]

Kk basically, flac is a losslessly compressed file, using wav as a container. WAV is uncompressed and won't sound any different from a FLAC assuming the flac was compressed properly. MP3, AAC, OGG, etc. all are lossy compression meaning detail is lost, but at high enough bitrates the detail lost is practically impossible to distinguish

[molten lotus]

you wouldn't tell them apart in a test without trying for like an hour or two

given you have no ear training

[haughty girder]

as for speakers and amps, the things that die most often are caps which do have a limited lifespan, but normally they last at LEAST 10 years

[molten lotus]

even when you do, you would not give a shit about it

[haughty girder]

^

[molten lotus]

with speakers its more difficult to tell them apart without room treatment since the highs mix together

which is the most distinguishable thing between lossy and lossless

at least for me

[haughty girder]

because that's usually where it's cut lol

like the threshold of hearing curve just shows that most people barely hear frequencies near 20k at reasonable listening levels

[molten lotus]

they barely hear 20-19khz

[haughty girder]

You can cut out a lot of detail there and it would not sound any different

[molten lotus]

most people over 23 can't hear 20khz

even less pretty sure

[haughty girder]

Fuck I'm not even 23 yet I can only hear 16k

given I'm not cranking the volume

[molten lotus]

rip bozo

[modern blaze]

no idea what I can hear, but I guarantee it aint great. Went to many, many concerts before I was old

[haughty girder]

Cranking as in 85db+

[molten lotus]

oof

[haughty girder]

basically yea dw about mp3 or flac or whatever

to 99% of people it doesn't sound different

[modern blaze]

green day, snoop/dre/eminem, jackyl, styx, etc etc

[molten lotus]

I listened the fuck out of green day back in middle to high school

[modern blaze]

Saw them live in concert in 97 or 98

[unique wind]

rip

[haughty girder]

granted I do these tests around 65db

[unique wind]

you’re not really missing anything

[haughty girder]

Ik

[unique wind]

just white noise and distortion and tweeter hiss

[haughty girder]

If I crank it I can hear past 16k

But then it's just painful

and yea there's nothing musical up there

[unique wind]

sometimes i wish i only heard up to 15k

[molten lotus]

same

no more tinnitus

:(

[unique wind]

12-15k is important for air and clarity but beyond that is pretty worthless

[unique wind]

turn down volume >:)

[molten lotus]

its permanent

[unique wind]

my tinnitus has dwindled to the point where i only hear it in extremely quiet rooms

instead of constantly

[molten lotus]

well same

[unique wind]

i still sleep with a tv on tho

[molten lotus]

but its still annoying when sleeping

[unique wind]

rather hear linus at like 40db than

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[molten lotus]

usa military service tinnitus

[haughty girder]

My tinnitus is genetic and happens only at a certain temp, when it's quiet and when I feel stressed and alone

but it's so loud when it happens

[modern blaze]

cant sleep without bg noise

[haughty girder]

I always have music playing

overnight

quiet enough I can sleep, loud enough I don't feel the pain

[unique wind]

i like to have some form of connection to the internet at all times unless i’m talking to someone irl

like just having a youtube video playing or discord open

[haughty girder]

for me it's only my gf that gets my full attention nowadays hehe

[unique wind]

nothing beats some good old booze cruising

[haughty girder]

eh

I can't drink much

super low tolerance unfortunately for both caffeine and alcohol

[modern blaze]

on a related topic: soundcore sleep a10 are trash

[unique wind]

swap with me

i only drink like twice a year but still have viking tolerance

[modern blaze]

I can consume inhuman amounts of caffeine with little to no noticeable effect

[unique wind]

same, me with any substance

it’s like my body just doesn’t absorb anything

[haughty girder]

I was light headed, felt like throwing up, shaking and only had a cup of french vanilla

[lean grove]

That might have been the French part

[haughty girder]

i can only resort to sugar now

[lean grove]

I have that same reaction too

[haughty girder]

Rly

[lean grove]

No

[haughty girder]

Interesting.

Oh

K I'm not just stupid then

[unique wind]

[dense bluff]

im thinking of getting a new headset i currently have the cloud 2s but the mic is quiet and i think its because i have had them for about 4 years now

should i stick to cloud 2s or get another hyperx headset?

[weak kraken]

so i'm trying to get my PC hooked up to this MOTU ultralite mk5 through optical but i have no idea where i can find its volume slider in the mixer

[molten lotus]

optical output

?

[molten lotus]

you aren't getting better than cloud 2 in terms of headsets

you either go in audiophile marketed headphones with a separate mic or stick to what you have

cloud 2 is the peak of gaming headset market

[lean grove]

drop pc37x/38x?

[restive sigil]

Anyone else listen to music in bed ?

[molten lotus]

fair

[haughty girder]

ofc, I have to

I use speakers tho

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-quarantine-sleeping-sleeping-beauty-beauty-sleep-gif-16980796

[restive sigil]

hells yeah!!!

sleeping with music is best thing in life

[haughty girder]

no I need it to avoid tinnitus

usually when I'm asleep I'm also alone and if it's quiet enough, I could start hearing a really loud EEEEEEE

[tender frost]

Well, bought myself the IE-200

[leaden cloak]

Nice

Ah yeah that’s the new IEM being hyped right now

[tender frost]

I'll give short first impressions here when it arrives, comparing to my starfields

[outer mesa]

Who else has cheap IEMs that have more bass than a cheap car sub in a 2003 Camry?

[plain widget]

we shall await your impressions

[half fog]

is etymotic known for awful build quality

i tried er2se since it was 60 dollars onsale and they broke in 10 minutes

right connector died

loose wobbly snap in lead

connector failed faster than a hifiman stock cable

[nova wagon]

Nope

[unique wind]

🖐️

i have midrange iems that do that too

stupid levels of subbass

if i were to tune an iem it’d probably be like this

[inland bobcat]

Dynamite

[unique wind]

Dynamite

[inland bobcat]

Rode procaster needs more gain

[modern blaze]

rode podcaster does also

[weak rapids]

Tech Tip: are you too quiet? Well then just up your gain to the max and move your mic far away, this wont cause any clipping or annoying sounds

[molten lotus]

so would the this be functional as a stand alone?

https://headphones.com/products/ifi-audio-zen-can-signature-hfm?_pos=9&_sid=7822f256a&_ss=r

https://headphones.com/products/ifi-audio-zen-air-dac?_pos=7&_sid=7822f256a&_ss=r

[modern blaze]

Hey, that's one of the interfaces I considered before buying my id4

[weak rapids]

Thoughts on the revelator io44

[molten lotus]

Yeah

well both of those + rca yes

[unique wind]

i have 4 inch rca cables connecting my stack

they might be 6” actually

[tender frost]

First impressions of the IE-200:
Cable is very nice, the IEMs themselves are small as hell so no worries about fitting them
The little carrying pouch and included eartips are neat but I'm using final e-types lol
They are a little harder to drive than the Starfields
If anything they just sound well balanced and for lack of fancy words, they're just good lol

oh also they arrived fucking quickly lol

[molten lotus]

can you compare them to the starfields directly @tender frost

[tender frost]

I don't know enough funny audio words to describe it other than imagine the Starfields but just better lol

Better tuning, better imaging, better soundstage...etc

Well, 'better' tuning, it's a little less bass and same treble ish

[molten lotus]

fair

[weak rapids]

Im assuming its decent

[molten lotus]

I don't know about it

[nova wagon]

its kinda hit or miss
eposvox sample seems fine, but julian krause sample has a lot of interference, and it seem like this is a common issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb6Xg6mqBuc
but it has been 8 months since the review and i dont know if presonous has fixed the issue

[molten lotus]

I don't like the if it was good I would have heard of it mentality

but if it was good I would have probably heard of it

[ocean pulsar]

thats beyond conceited lmao

[unique wind]

yeah especially considering klaus only has lofi gear

[weak rapids]

Lol

[sharp oracle]

@lean grove hi! sorry to bother again but I got the Sennheiser headphones you recommended, and I have hard time setting them up. I have MOBO from asus (ROG STRIX X570-F) with SupremeFX S1220A driver, but I cannot find any software or anything how to properly configure it. I managed to install this software called "Realtek audio control" that was for download on my MOBOs drivers page but it looks completely different then how Asus is showing it on screenshots. There should be an equalizer but there isnt any, same with some pre-made profiles, etc...

[leaden cloak]

Y’all look at this chonker. This runs android lol

[lean grove]

Which Sennheiser headphones?

[sharp oracle]

HD 560S

[molten lotus]

setting them up?

[sharp oracle]

I mean, they work. But the Realtek software/driver does not have the features it should have according to what the MOBO manufacturer says. And I dont know if I mess something up or whats wrong

[ocean pulsar]

what do you want?

[molten lotus]

this

[sharp oracle]

My problem is that according to what Asus says about the sound chip, it should have features like pre-made profiles, equalizer and similar but when I open up the software it does not show anything. So I dont know if I should install some aditional software or if I mess something up

[ocean pulsar]

do you want those?

[sharp oracle]

Yes, I would like to have it

[lean grove]

Idk anything about mobo drivers. The 560s are analog. They have no accompanying software. So those realtek and mobo audio software you want, idk how to help you with.

[molten lotus]

there are better alternatives to it

mobo dps is ass

that is why everyone avoids it

learn to use equalizer apo

[sharp oracle]

ok, no prob. I was just curious

[molten lotus]

try learning eq apo

[sharp oracle]

ok, thanks!

[molten lotus]

you are welcome

[fading ridge]

How is the Hyperx cloud core 7.1?

[dense cedar]

Do you got armoury crate?

For your mono

Then you can go to like installs on it and install the audio tuner thingy and there you can do all that stuff

[sharp oracle]

I have bad experience from last mobo with these utility softwares so, to be honest, I didnt even think about it

so, I dont, but will try it

[dense cedar]

Ok

Armoury crate is good

Just don’t install everything it recommends

It recommends Norton

[sharp oracle]

already installing, but thanks for the tip

[dense cedar]

No problem

Happy to help

[near stone]

stupid question but my TV has digital coax output and my receiver only has analog rca inputs. I would need a dac in the middle of that to have a good signal right?

I tried the rca jacks on TV but it's really crappy dunno why

[unique wind]

you’ll need a dac yes

optical from tv into dac, rca from dac into receiver

[tender frost]

Oh god no it isnt

[near stone]

bleh so many wires

thanks I just needed someone to tell me... don't want to buy unnecessary stuff

[unique wind]

it be like that

i use a similar setup

but i use hdmi into the dac

with a $20 dac

[near stone]

landlord provided TV was made in 2008 doubt it would have a hdmi out for sound

I am proud ignore the fact I am using the rear channel for the front

[unique wind]

bro got the jankiest setup

like 4 different speakers

with the hotel tv

[near stone]

hell yes

the Facebook marketplace special spent 600cad for everything in this photo (including the xbox)

[unique wind]

bro is the facebook marketplace scavenger

[near stone]

what dac do you use @unique wind

[lean grove]

He uses a modified playstation 1

[unique wind]

🫃

[unique wind]

i cant find it on amazon

and im too lazy to go look at it irl

it's dangling behind my tv

[near stone]

lol fair. I'll just look at a review or something

[slender sand]

Does anyone here have experience with setting up a turntable?

Trying to figure out if this wonderful and detailed instruction sheet from Drop actually has the accurate weight for the counterweight and the anti-skate dial

Just says 2 on both of them

[bitter hollow]

Turn the counterweight until the arm is balanced

Then move the front ring on the weight to 0

And then the counterweight until the ring is on 2

Also set the antiskate to 2

Could also look up the recommended setting for the cartridge, I guess

[slender sand]

I am trying 2 currently, I was just wondering if 2 was too much but something I just read said that the anti-skate is supposed to be the same as the weight.

As for looking it up, I searched for a setup guide and couldn’t find anything relevant to read. Probably a YouTube video somewhere but I’ll deal with that if I have to later

[bitter hollow]

2 is fine

Assuming they mean 2g of tracking force, that seems pretty normal

[slender sand]

Sounds v good

Been waiting a hot minute to set this up.

🫡

[bitter hollow]

Is that hooked into your soundbar?

[slender sand]

Yes. I’m in an apartment so I’m worried about going balls to the wall, but it’s got a dedicated wireless sub and two satellites that I have behind the couch.

[bitter hollow]

It's not recommended to keep speakers on the same table

Since the vibrations can interfere with the turntable

[lean grove]

✨positive feedback loop✨

[bitter hollow]

Sound is just vibrations

So if you add more sound to your sound

You get sound^2

[slender sand]

I’m okay with that

But, I have a mount for the soundbar. Just no one to help me pull the tv down at the moment

[bitter hollow]

The point of turntables isn't fidelity anyways lol

As long as you enjoy it

[slender sand]

The feet on this are floppy rubber boys, supposedly to cut down on anything that the surface you have it on might throw at it.

I dunno, I’m no scientist. But the soundbar is hanging off of the entertainment stand so this definitely isn’t final.

[gloomy cave]

So I've beef working on theatre sound design recently. The venue told me the speakers were 'stereo' which, might have been technically true, but when they're so close together, so near the front and have next to no directionality, then just tell me to mix for mono! Sigh

[tough lava]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745120-REG/audio_technica_ath_m50xsts_streaming_headset_xlr_and.html

awwww yeah perfect

[molten lotus]

there is better stuff than audio technica

[tough lava]

There is better stuff than everything.

That seems like a good price/performance headset

[molten lotus]

for $200 I'd honestly buy a $10 lapel mic and a good headset

not headset headphone

sorry

This discord room has caused me to distrust anything labeled as "gaming" for audio

also anything labeled as "audiophile" that sounds even slightly scammy

i.e. "Single crystal copper"

for speaker wire is going to work just as well as a coat hanger

speaking from personal experience Planar magnetic seems to do better for gaming.

than dynamic driver.

[tough lava]

oh absolutely - but these are existing 'phones with a mic shoved on

[molten lotus]

probably lower quality on both

than $200 will get you seperately

not to mention audio technica isn't known for being that amazing

[turbid grove]

Hi, Can SSD Read speed be a reason in this specific case? Faster SSD Faster = Faster applying in audition?

Adobe Audition = Audio tech

[candid whale]

anyone got a recomendation for a good Gaming headset with good sound? (price range 50-100 euro)

[lean grove]

Pc37x from drop+Sennheiser

👀

[median frigate]

i want an iem but they are expensive :/

wait iems dont have bass? do they?

[lean grove]

They usually have quite a bit

[dry stratus]

they start at like 15$, wot

15$ if you want something pretty good ofc

[hard tulip]

its surprising how much bass iems can produce

i get too much ear wax, so i havent used em much, but theres no inherent weakness spectrum wise i dont think

[median frigate]

someone told me those are basically not iem but earphones

[dry stratus]

IEMs are earphones

[median frigate]

i mean like

those earphones

[bitter hollow]

you can get pretty good iems for like $20 nowadays

[dry stratus]

I am not talking about the koss here

[bitter hollow]

pair that with an apple usb dongle for another $15 or so

[median frigate]

any suggestions?

there is something called the KZ iems

how is that?

uhhh so what are these?

[bitter hollow]

the low end iem market changes relatively frequently

but there's usually something being hyped that should be fine

[gleaming owl]

Hey I'm looking to get open-back headphones (SENNHEISER HD 6XX). I currently have ATH M70X's for the past 7 years and they have been great. I also had a chance to test M50x's and I actually wasn't a fan of them as I got used to the flat eq of my m70x, I was wondering if the audio quality is as good as m70x or any other thoughts?

[dawn ice]

would really recommend to choose from either he400se, sennheiser 560s or beyerdynamic dt880 250ohm / tygr 300r

around that price point, there the top picks. 6xx is really dated and not worth buying today

would also recommend setting some money aside and picking up an amp, unless you go with the 560s which dont really need it

[gleaming owl]

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm happy to go a little bit higher with the price, unless there is not much difference in the quality around $100 more than these (budget around $250-300).

That said, I currently don't have an amp and I like the look of DT880's - what amp would you recommend?

[dawn ice]

the next meaningful step up in quallity is edition xs, so if you cant swing that id stay in this price bracket

for the amp, id look online for a used schiit asgard 3

or you could pick up the ifi zen dac

its more of a dac then an amp, but, it also has a decent amp built in and it would basically cover your dac needs for the foreseeable future since its a super solid dac

[gleaming owl]

ifi zen dac looks to be more available in my region than the schiit, but I will research further. Thanks a lot!

I'm honestly really happy with my m70x but I really want to try openback headphones hearing all good thing about them

[dawn ice]

yup open backs are for sure the way to go

youd deffo have to buy asgard3 used as new price is outside of your budget, and honestly, not rl worth paying

i see one in us for 200$

[gleaming owl]

I'm actually based in UK but since most people are from US here I just used $ :D

[dawn ice]

aaaah

then you can just cop the zen dac :p

[slim mason]

Zen air dac and call it a day

[molten lotus]

so the Warwick pinnacle headphone is apparently much better than the Sennheiser HE-1

because you can buy the warwick if you can afford it. Sennheiser won't sell the HE-1

[molten lotus]

actually I see more sea currencies than USD in this discord.

[weak rapids]

I think it would make the most sense to default to CAD here since its a Canadian company

[molten lotus]

Is the dt770 pro a good headset for 150€?

open back has better sound stage and the HE400se exists for $110

I have DT880 and I much prefer my HE400se

[dawn ice]

there are a lot of better options then he1

from what i hear

[molten lotus]

He400se is hifiman?

yes.

Little less bass than the Beyerdynamics, but only in the lowest of the register. More than enough for artists like Deadmouse or daft punk but noticeably light when listening to something like Bass Boosted.

Excellent spacial sound stage for gaming.

[molten lotus]

Is it far better then the 770 pro?

Don't get me wrong the DT880's were good here as well, but the HE400se just feels better at it

the DT770's are closed back so anything open is going to be better at spacial

Is see

if you are in a loud area or have people who are easily annoyed at hearing what you are then closed back is going to be good for you, and by loud I mean REALLY loud. I have a wife and 2 kids and have no issues with my HE400se while the tv is going and the kids are getting crazy

I can still hear the game audio perfectly fine.

I just can't listen to bloodhound gang while the kids are up because they could hear it too 😛

[molten lotus]

Is dt990 open back?

Yes. but from common report the DT880 is the best of the Beyerdynamic breed

[molten lotus]

Is the 880 also open?

and I would rather use the HE400se over the DT880

yes 880 is open

[molten lotus]

Comfort wise or

yes

they are about the same as far as comfort

the HE400se has a little bit of a hotspot on the tip top of my head where the DT880 didn't really. But I prefer the performance of the HE400se to the DT880

I see he400 cheaper aswell

but I also have an external dac and amp

[dawn ice]

Planar supremacy

[molten lotus]

I remembered issues early on in the advent of planar where the drivers would tear after awhile but modern manufacturing has seemed to solve that issue

[dawn ice]

Yup durability is p good now

Especially if you go up to higher end stuff where they etch the traces in to the diaphram instead of sticking it on

[molten lotus]

for @molten lotus that would be if you were willing to drop $500 on the Edition XS from hifiman

[dawn ice]

Yup edition xs easyest choice ever if you can swing it

Goated for the money

[molten lotus]

I'm kind of believing that the HE400se is kinda goated for the money

[dawn ice]

Its pretty sweet but comes with its own downsides

And xs is one of the best headphones out there for 500$

[molten lotus]

I haven't found the downsides to the HE400

[dawn ice]

Main issue for me is mid bass is pretty mid

[molten lotus]

Mid bass is pretty good

[dawn ice]

And it needs big dick chain if you want it to soind natural

[molten lotus]

unless what I count as mid bass is more high bass

It feels plenty punchy for things like Daft punk and Dead Mouse

[dawn ice]

Its just kinda lead around ~150/200khz

[molten lotus]

well the drop off is real around 60hz

pretty amazing leading up to it imho

[dawn ice]

They extend pretty well if you got a good enough amp actually

[molten lotus]

but I have the JDS atom stack, I don't even have to use the gain

[dawn ice]

Yap sub bass comes back if youd run them off a better amp

[molten lotus]

I think I might end up picking up a Zen Can eventually

[dawn ice]

Noic

Also check out used schiit

Asgard3 is pretty fun and has aight power

G2g for now

[molten lotus]

Fuck Schiit, ebay banned me for asking a question of a seller

[dawn ice]

Lol rip

[molten lotus]

used market is kinda out for me

[dawn ice]

Just dont use ebay

Find deals on hifishark

[molten lotus]

I'm not eu

[dawn ice]

Its an international site

[molten lotus]

only eu posts

well as far as the Zen Stack goes

[summer flicker]

he400se is pretty low res, but thats kinda to be expected from such a cheap pair

I'm also not too fond of the tone

in general cheaper planars just ain't it.

but he400se carves out a niche in its open back price bracket

[molten lotus]

its hit or miss

planars tend to die in the first week or so

but if they survive they wont die

[molten lotus]

what higher res can you get sub 350$?

talking exclusively about resolution

[summer flicker]

6x0, 560s, couple others I'm forgetting. it definitely doesn't pull above it's price bracket in that regard

[molten lotus]

how does 6x0 have higher resolution mate

they are audibly grainier compared to he400se

I don't care if you prefer them over he400se but if you are talking solely about resolution there is no way those headphones compare

[summer flicker]

is this where I tell you that you're on a shit tier set up for them and you don't believe me and then I ignore everything you say afterwards

[molten lotus]

if you have enough money to make a 6x0 headphone good with improving source gear

[summer flicker]

in truth it's probably not the set up just your ears

[molten lotus]

you may as well put it to headphones that are better than 6x0

[summer flicker]

SG weirdos are the only ones that cope this hard about he400se

literally everyone else knows it's not that great

[molten lotus]

in the sub 350$ range it is the headphone with most clarity, layering and resolution

[summer flicker]

lol

[molten lotus]

I would pick something like the dt880 over it but I do not deny he400se of what it does good

and what it does good it does a lot better of any headphones of the 6x0 lineup

[summer flicker]

layering, a known congested headphone

[molten lotus]

it is not any more congested than 6x0 is in terms of positioning

and in terms of separation it is ahead of 6x0 by a large margin

unless you go spend a fuck ton of money for source gear

which you should be buying better headphones instead with than trying to improve a 6x0 headphone with

[summer flicker]

whatever you say mate

I'm glad you enjoy it so much

[molten lotus]

I don't even like the he400se, I don't understand why you would deny what it does good either

[summer flicker]

does good for 150 ish

[molten lotus]

it does layering better than any headphone until you reach 350$

or unless you go vintage

[summer flicker]

that's just not true but keep telling yourself rhat

[molten lotus]

which headphone does it better?

[summer flicker]

every single one thats been named so far pretty much

[molten lotus]

I don't think you understand what layering is

or resolution

[summer flicker]

surely if ur cucking ur shit off a zen dac you'd never believe that though

again, I'm glad you enjoy it

[molten lotus]

I don't own a he400se nor do I like it

[summer flicker]

OK, that's also fine

[molten lotus]

and neither do I have a zendac

[summer flicker]

Klaus you get your info from an incredibly echoic circle filled with people that have been rejected from every single audio forum. why do I care

[molten lotus]

I am not a SG crony

I hang out there to call people insults, had I been a part of the echo chamber I would be glorifying the he400se as great headphone

[summer flicker]

could fooled me. anyway agree to disagree

you literally have been, but alright

[molten lotus]

I don't think you have ever heard any of the headphones which you mentioned apart from the 6xx I know which you own

[summer flicker]

another regurgitated sg lie

you get that one form popcrn?

[molten lotus]

I do remember your argument with him regarding the 400se which he asked a picture of and you refused to send it

I didn't receive that information from him I there at the time of the conversation

[summer flicker]

my dac is worth more than every headphone youce heard, I don't know why you think I can't amazon return policy abuse 5 entry level headphones

[molten lotus]

if your dac is more expensive than a he1k I think you should reconsider some things

[summer flicker]

because I don't have one lol

[molten lotus]

which you proclaimed to own

[summer flicker]

what the hell are you talking about

you mean arya?

you can't even get your lies straight bro

[molten lotus]

no particularly he400se

[summer flicker]

I don't proclaim to own one

I've tried it

trying/owning

might be difficult concept to grasp

I know popcrn couldnt

[molten lotus]

by the way

its epic how two years back you agreed that 400se has better layering than the headphones you mentioned now

did something happen since then

[summer flicker]

did I? I was wrong

but judging by the level of inaccuracies you've been spewing about me just now I'd be hard pressed to believe I did

[summer flicker]

ah yeah 560s

does not layer

[molten lotus]

layers better than the 6x0 lmao

[summer flicker]

true true

based take

[summer flicker]

again I could care less what you think about thay

[summer flicker]

this has me curious though

mind elaborating on this

you think dacs are capped post 2k or something?

[molten lotus]

depends on your headphones

[summer flicker]

only the highest res

[molten lotus]

but a dac should be the last thing to upgrade in a chain

[summer flicker]

6x0 and hd800s

[molten lotus]

lol

lmao

yeah you are delusional if you pay more than 3k for a dac for those

[summer flicker]

imagine thinking planars do res lol

planars are notoriously res capped my guy

they don't scale with source

[molten lotus]

I don't think you understand what you are talking about

[summer flicker]

[molten lotus]

if impedance matching headphones with amplifiers is "resolution" then I think you should reacquire terminology

[summer flicker]

yeah no

try again

or better yet just go cope post about this in SG

I'm gonna go do something more interesting

[molten lotus]

you can't discuss headphones you dislike nor admit their proficiencies

all you have done in this entire discussion was linking me to a discord server which I have barely been active in the past year and profiling me off of it to pick at me
if you are unable to accept foreign information perhaps you should limit yourself to speaking with those in headphone headquarters where everyone agrees with you

[floral hinge]

do you guys think that the HD 560S will work with a UMC22?

[molten lotus]

yes

[floral hinge]

I am not really that good with audio tech so im just unaware of how things work tbh

[molten lotus]

it will

don't worry

[floral hinge]

would it work better on the UMC22 or just plugging it straight into my computer through its headphone jack since the headphones come with an adapter

[molten lotus]

depends on the motherboard but the odds are umc22 will sound better

in any case you should try for yourself

see which sounds better

[summer flicker]

fwiw nothing you said was foreign. and your incredulity at my very established, quite normal opinions says volumes about how you've strangled yourself in an echo chamber

OK now I'm actually gone gone

[molten lotus]

I don't even speak in there about headphones yet you call me a part of an echo chamber

[floral hinge]

I have a GIGABYTE B550 Aorus pro V2 motherboard if that helps

[molten lotus]

again if you don't want to accept foreign information do not discuss with people who have opinions contrary to yours

[molten lotus]

it really doesn't

again

just download a dB meter app in your phone

go to an online tone generator

[floral hinge]

okay I will just try it. I haven't ordered the headphones yet so im just gonna order them. if something is off worst case scenario i return them LOL

[molten lotus]

connect your headphone to the motherboard

adjust audio until its at a listening level

place headphones on your desk and place the db meter near them

[molten lotus]

maybe I shouldn't have gone 250ohm on the DT880's because I like almost everything about the HE400se better than the DT's

connect headphones to both sources and adjust audio until both have the same loudness level

[molten lotus]

I prefer the dt880 250ohm mostly because of the thicker bass but I can understand where you are coming from

[floral hinge]

yeah will do. I just want the HD 560s cause i heard great reviews about them

[molten lotus]

the DT880's don't seem as nimble as the HE400

they aren't

400se have clearly better resolution

It took me only two headphones to find out that what I care about most is resolution

I don't think that is true

he400se does not have super high resolution either

there are dynamics that are comparable to it higher up in the ladder

there will be headphones that will have lots of resolution but sound terrible as well

like lower end stax

I get that but, all other things being equal if I had to choose punch and impact or resolution it'd be resolution

resolution, seperation and clarity.

but that is only between punch, impact and resolution between those two headphones

I don't know why but I feel I might like the focal clear

dt880 has better punch yes but something like a hd800 off of a good chain will slam well and have high resolution

still lower resolution than planars of its price bracket but to the point where you wont care about the resolution at much

with my limited comparison, and probably from what I've come from, I do prefer what the HE offers over the DT I get my listening (even in music over free streaming services like Spotify) enjoyment from the little things rather than impact. I.E. I enjoy hearing more texture from the stairwell than I do from the kick of the drums in "When the Levee Breaks"

[shell scarab]

Guys? does someone have any experience with the Dt990 pro cause i need some info? I need a new pair of headphones and i think i 'll get those if i don"t find any better option.And for the amp is it safe to buy an amp from EBAY ? Thanks

[weak rapids]

Sell sm7b for $400 and buy procaster for $180?

[molten lotus]

sell sm7b and buy c1 for 50

[normal peak]

'no, go for ksc 75 or dt 880s or hd 6xx's, ksc 75's are cheaper idk about the rest, ive only heard that these are good other than the hd 6xx's which i own and ive heard the dt 990s are bad with piercing highs. What amp is it on eBay?

[molten lotus]

don't waste so much money for a microphone

[molten lotus]

that is fine but what I am getting at is, while you can continue to climb the hifiman ladder and enjoy it

along the way hd800s, abyss headphones, k1k, stax and other items which are one of a kind will appear

[weak rapids]

Nah not going for condenser again, want dynamic

[molten lotus]

why

also again?

[molten lotus]

before you pull the trigger on DT990's what's your price bracket?

[weak rapids]

Very noisy room, once the noise gate opens from my voice it would just pick it all up

And i had a blue yeti and I believe a blue ember as my first xlr mic

[molten lotus]

dt880 are directly better than the dt990

[molten lotus]

a dynamic wont help you with a noisy room

there is zero relation to a microphone being dynamic and filtering out sound

what you are talking about is exclusively about pickup range and shape of a microphone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT557EYjp_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvk4KHaD3AA

[molten lotus]

price bracket what do you want out of the headphones, primary use case (music gaming etc) percentage of use....

the c1 sounds better

rode procaster is literally, a waste of money

you are paying for worse audio

What is it with these audio companies squandering the respect they earned years ago putting out poor quality high priced products?

brand name

Is it the covid hobby boom and the lure of easy money?

or have brands like Rode always been more status less function?

then there are other brands (like sure, from what I've come to hear) who just keep doing what the do.

Blue used to make some of the best drum mics but then Logitec bought them and destroyed the product stack

[weak rapids]

Lmao while looking at c1 on walmart since i get a discount i found this review

[shell scarab]

133 bucks is their price and i am ready to spent 160

[molten lotus]

incredible

[molten lotus]

dt880 is directly better than the dt990

either get that or he400se

[weak rapids]

It also doesnt mention usb in it

However does mention 3 pronged xlr

Lmao these people cant read

[shell scarab]

isn't that the older sister of the dt990 pro?

[molten lotus]

yes

I think

[shell scarab]

30% music and 60 gaming

[shell scarab]

and they are better ?damn

[molten lotus]

yeah

new doesn't necessarily mean better

@shell scarab honestly I play valorant most of the time and I feel that for gaming HE400se is a bit better for gaming. Still great for music. But you also might want an amp...

I think you should check again

dt880 has better imaging

[molten lotus]

it might be my dac/amp stack but I find that the imaging on the HE400se is better

maybe a little closer but more precise

[haughty girder]

yikew

[molten lotus]

on sides he400se is better I agree

but for front and back I would say dt880 does better

but i'd argue that point either way

[haughty girder]

Aren't he400se drivers closer to your ear than dt880?

[molten lotus]

I don't care about if someone is in front of me, I want to know which angle from the side...

[molten lotus]

no idea

[haughty girder]

Tbh anything will do that fine, but iems will provide the most "reliable" data

[molten lotus]

cope

[haughty girder]

just because the utter lack of soundstage

[molten lotus]

LOL with no directionality at all

[haughty girder]

it does have imaging

[molten lotus]

you get Left or right or both

[haughty girder]

it may not be as good as headphones

but it doesn't have to be

everything is just there instead of having to listen for it

[molten lotus]

I have TWIEM in my ear too much to use them for gaming

[haughty girder]

True wireless for gaming?

if it isn't genshin or some other rpg it's not gonna be a good time

[molten lotus]

no IEM for gaming

I use TWIEM too much to want to use iem for gaming

[haughty girder]

Ohh

but this isn't abt you

n3m

IEMs have very small soundstage and usually will have more detail than a headphones at equivalent price below 200ish

Imaging isn't gonna be as good front and back but since it's so close it's gonna be easy to decipher sides

[unique wind]

iems work really well for positioning hearing in games

there's not a lot of distance information but directionality is great

[weak rapids]

Fuck no places sell the c1 in stores

All choices would have to be delivered and take a week

[unique wind]

a week isnt bad