you don't need a mixer to connect a mic and headphone
#audio-tech
molten lotus
and the interface you don't need to have in a visible spot, you will not be using it to adjust anything
goxlr is expensive and works worse than anything you can buy for 30$
go for it if you want but it's just a marketing item
open scaffold
Weird that you'd have someone jump through all these hoops just to spend more money on a less streamlined solution, especially if you're recommending the m track solo, when the m game solo exists and can do everything they need for less money and even has extra features and is easier to set up. Is the mic pre-amp that much worse on the m game than the solo? I would think it would be the same tbh.
molten lotus
an m game solo costs 160$
performs worse
has a four channel digital mixer which is a joke
and its software is trash
what I proposed costs 100$
and is better in every way
except it takes more space sure
open scaffold
Well the m game is $99 p much always so not sure where you got the $160. Just think that something easier to set up and more streamlined is probably something at least worth giving as an option for someone who prob knows very little about this type of stuff.
molten lotus
Well the m game is $99 p much always so not sure where you got the $160. Just th...
it costs 160$ in amazon
let me check the european amazon
costs 140€ on the german amazon
the cheapest I could find it is 116€ which is thomann
open scaffold
What about their own site? It pops up as $99 on there and was also $99 on amazon and other us dealers a few months ago, not sure why it went up when again their own site sells it for $99 still lol
molten lotus
true
still
it is in every way worse than the setup I mentioned
if you are incapable of using an interface with a daw you probably should not be touching xlr anyways
lucid obsidian
By that logic about 99 percent of live streamers shouldnt be using the stuff they do. They are using stuff like a simple focusrite solo and a AT2020 and dont touch a DAW ever. Nothing about a DAW even being discussed so thats pretty irrelevant too.....
balmy geyser
looking for headphones recomendations. 100 price range, already have a mic, and will be used mostly for fps games. thanks!
balmy geyser
looking for headphones recomendations. 100 price range, already have a mic, and ...
pretty much just need comfort and good surround sound
lucid obsidian
pretty much just need comfort and good surround sound
idk what their price is but I have a pair of AKG K52 that a friend gave me, he said they are really cheap, sounds good and I noticed I can hear footsteps and stuff pretty good in FPS games.
lucid obsidian
yeah def no surround sound, but idk any cheap sub 100 dollar ones off top of my head lol
all treble in these for sure
lean grove
surround sound for headphones is really not that good
and by really not that good i mean quite bad
lucid obsidian
never heard good surround in headphones really. but never actually tried to so no idea lol
ive had my HD660's for years and just seems tried n true just over 100 bucks tho
lean grove
ehhhhhh
660s are dont really extend all that far down in to bass so i wouldn't really consider them for anyone who needs that
the 6xx/650 would be a better choice
lucid obsidian
i have a pair of the 600s, just always used my 660s mostly just out of habit. I do like those too tho
dawn ice
never heard good surround in headphones really. but never actually tried to so n...
good head stage is really expensive in headphones sadly
lucid obsidian
what are some good ones? doesnt have to be wireless or anything. say like budget max of 1000. Whats the best surround/music (NOT PRODUCTION) I can get?
dawn ice
well, its more of a complete sistem, for stage, you need good source gear as well
lucid obsidian
Would prefer open back too if ya know of any. Ive had a pair of 600s, my 660s, then i have a couple of wireless ones I use sometimes but I feel like they are muddy as hell.
dawn ice
realistically, for 1k, you cant get anything crazzy in terms of staging, but for the headphone it self, hifiman edition xs is by far the easyest choice
lucid obsidian
Like just Airpods Max, Sony WXHM4's and 3s.
dawn ice
the stage on xs isnt huge, tho its still strong compared to its competition for the price, and its way wider then any senny 600 series
lucid obsidian
but id like to find something that basically blows ALL of them out of the water across the board.
dawn ice
edition xs is gonna shit on all of them in every aspect
with the remaining money, it would be a good idea to pick up an amp/dac
the more important aspect is for sure the amp and not the dac, so, considering the budget, id look for a used schiit jotunheim2 or singxer sa1
lucid obsidian
I have a focusrite 4i4 3rd gen and a presonus audiobox go
dawn ice
and then for the dac, id look for a black meizu hifi dongle
i think 4i4 actually has a decent dac but the amp aint the best in it
lucid obsidian
amps garbage in it lol
dawn ice
you can ofc run headphones off it and see how it goes, but picking up a better amp and running 4i4 as a dac would be a good idea
but yah man, for like, under 1k, and even up to like 2k, edition xs is a no brainer
lucid obsidian
id prolly try a new amp for them if its something that will replace 6 other pairs and I can never have to dick with it again for a few years lol
lucid obsidian
yeah i think imma try those. Ive been goign through headphones quite a bit last year and couldnt seem to find that middle ground. so i just kept all the ones I liked. now i realize that was stupid....
dawn ice
or is it 600, i forget lol
lucid obsidian
yeah its 500
dawn ice
nah trying a lot of different gear is a really good thing man
its the only way to understand what you like and whats good
lucid obsidian
not finding the schiit joyunheim2 tho yet, the singer sa1 is a little more than id like to spend on an amp yet
dawn ice
you should really consider getting it used
lucid obsidian
well yeah i tried a bunch.....just kept alot of it and now alot dont get used lol
wasted money really
lucid obsidian
it do...it really do lol
dawn ice
where you from?
lucid obsidian
like i know my wife wont let me get rid of the airpods cause she uses them so thats 5 others that can go and possible just pay for all this new stuff lol
Im from USA, Michigan
lucid obsidian
stay at home dad but big music/guitar/drums user lol
dawn ice
you will also need a balanced headphone cable for xs, since nearly all mid to high end amps use balanced terminations
lucid obsidian
yeah i got a couple cables in some cases ill have to dig them out lol
dawn ice
hmm yah, surprisingly no jot2's atm
you gonna need a 3.5mm - 4pin xlr balanced for xs
since edition xs uses 3.5mm terminations (literally same as pc/phone headphone jack)
but yah, sa1 is a solid amp, and for 350$, you cant rl complain
lucid obsidian
yeah i think i have 1 or 2 of those. I got 2 crates next to some guitar amps that is bound to have one
dawn ice
haha nice
man if you play guitar, you gonna love xs
i assume you never tried planar headphones?
lucid obsidian
i might try that used one. not a big fan of used since last 2 things I got were botched but might have to for that price
dawn ice
yah, id go used, most reputable hifi manufactorers have good quallity so you shouldnt have issues
also, sa1 has weird short circuit protection, so if you want better audio, you can bridge it and basically get an amp upgrade for free
you can look up online how to do it :p
its super easy
lucid obsidian
yeah its just how well the user took care of it. thats my big issue. im pretty keen on keeping all my stuff in the same condition as when I got it.
dawn ice
yah thats always a question
maybe you got some speaker amps that would work?
some speaker amps are clean enough to run headphones with speaker taps
lean grove
amps usually aren't that easy to break
dawn ice
hk770 would be a great option for a budget speaker/headphone amp if you want to take the plunge in to vintage electronics
lucid obsidian
nothing for desk use im afraid lol
dawn ice
fair
well, either way, since there are no jot2 listings atm, sa1 is your best bet
tho id suggest looking up how to bridge the short circuit protection since its a super easy and worth wile mod
tho if youre buying it used, theres a good chance its already done lol
since basically everyone do it
yah, the one i sent you has the mod
lucid obsidian
yeah im no solder guy so Ill have to have my cousin help me out on that. or if he cant help me I may have to get the other one
dawn ice
dont think you need to solder anything
lean grove
its just a wire
lucid obsidian
oh snap ok i could handle that
dawn ice
but ye, if you buy it used it will likely already have the mod
another option for an amp would be cayin iha6
tho its more expensive :p
lucid obsidian
im just not good with small stuff. want me to solder ya pins on ur old 72pin NES cartridge then we good lol
dawn ice
iha6 more or less maxes out edition xs, they dont rl scale past it from what i hear
lucid obsidian
big fat fingers loll
dawn ice
noic so gonna be an interesting experience as well
planars are basically just the superior driver past budget stuff tbh
dawn ice
main differences are near perfect sub bass extension, more detail and much better sound seperation
lean grove
there's benefits but like all things, it really depends
dawn ice
planars wont sound quit like a sub ofc, but you will be able to hear all the way down to what your ear can pick up with no issues
eh not really once you get past the entry-fi stuff
lucid obsidian
yeah but prolly wont sound like treble is cranked to 11 on everything else tho id hope
dawn ice
well, there are e-stats, but thats a different thing
edition xs are a touch bright off neutral but it isnt much
lucid obsidian
thats the main thing I cant stand. almost any time I start recording something and play it back it sounds like all the mid and low is taken out
lean grove
yeah but prolly wont sound like treble is cranked to 11 on everything else tho i...
that depends on the tuning.
dawn ice
the treble is well controlled and not grainy or tiring
lucid obsidian
but yeah im thinkin edition xs with the sa1 and could be all set. and could get rid of all these older ones and unused ones too.
dawn ice
yah easily
there is honestly no point in upgrading past edition xs unless you want to burn a lot of money for a relatively small gain lol
lucid obsidian
that depends on the tuning.
well all mine right now sound broken. only ones that come close to sounding different are my hd600s and thst not a big difference past the others i have.
dawn ice
you listen to korn man?
lucid obsidian
yeah im more or less looking to replace a bunch of used, older stuff and have a nice new setup that has 90 percent less junk
lucid obsidian
you listen to korn man?
for sure brother!
dawn ice
for sure brother!
oh man, listen to korn with xs, you gonna hear so much more detail
korn stuff sounds way better on high end gear
lucid obsidian
yeah id say my 660s are my favorites, then prolly my 600s, then wireless WHXM4's
lean grove
so this is the ananda. its quite similar tuning to the xs, but this guy doesnt have an xs measurement
lucid obsidian
but then all i have after that are airpod max and a k52 and i think 2 others in that crate i havent touched in eyars
dawn ice
xs better tuning the ananda
lean grove
they're pretty similar arent they?
dawn ice
ananda suffered from bass that was on the lead end and treble that tended to be a bit dry and peaky
edition xs is honestly the best tuned hifiman since hek v1
dawn ice
they're pretty similar arent they?
i mean, there both hifiman egg's, so they got similaritys, but xs are a lot more akin to hek v1
lean grove
well ignore the bass, treble is what i wanted to point out
dawn ice
xs treble is a lot nicer then on ananda
dawn ice
its a touch elevated but its not grainy or peaky
lean grove
but the minor differences betweeen xs and ananda dont matter
dawn ice
eh, graphs only tell a small part of the story :p
dawn ice
irl, xs is a very nice upgrade over ananda in just about every way
dawn ice
hmm, its been a very long time since ive heard 660s so i dont really recall what there tuning is like
lean grove
but the xs still has the hifiman tuning.
and compared to the 660s
its gonna have more treble
lean grove
thats the main thing I cant stand. almost any time I start recording something a...
so in response to this
dawn ice
not sure why youre whipping out ananda to make a point about xs but ok lol
lean grove
they are tuned almost the same
dawn ice
they both share the hifiman 2k dip but thats about it
lean grove
most hifimans are tuned pretty much the same
dawn ice
not really no
lean grove
that 0.5 db difference here and there is good enough for the 10db difference i want to point out
lean grove
not really no
dawn ice
irl there is a fair bit of variance if you try there shit
especially if you try some of the older stuff which also have near identical graphs
lean grove
yes. i know. but this is still just tuning
which is what i keep saying
over and over and over
dawn ice
there is more to ''tuning'' then looking at graphs my guy
lean grove
lean grove
thats the main thing I cant stand. almost any time I start recording something a...
if you dont like bright sounding headphones compared to your 660s, the xs might be a bit too spicey for your tastes. they scoop a little bit of the upper mids out a little bit, this contributes a bit to staging.
dawn ice
xs arent exactly what youd call bright, there barely above harman in the treble
lean grove
would you call xs brighter than the 660s?
dawn ice
i dont recall what the 660s sound like since its been like 2-3 years since i heard one
id say xs is a little brighter then 6xx but not much
tho the treble isnt grainy like it is on 6xx so its actually more pleasent
lean grove
in my experience, people that like hifiman tuning tend to stick to hifiman and people that like the sennheiser tuning tend to stick to sennheiser tuning.
and that is mostly in the treble and upper mids among other things
dawn ice
eh, idk man, only sennheiser tuning i enjoyed was 540g reff
and even that thing was only good for extremly neach stuff like really slow jazz or classical
lean grove
that adds to my point.
i can find a dozen people who think that theres only one or two hifimans that they like compared to their stack of sennys
dawn ice
that said, if i wanted that sound profile, planars on a good warm tube would do the job better
so idk
lean grove
and you're here in the other camp saying theres only one senny you like compared to your stack of hifimans
dawn ice
i just dont see why people would preffer ''sennheiser tuning'' when its generally just an inferior product
thats sorta like saying you preffer xm4 tuning
lean grove
i just dont see why people would preffer ''sennheiser tuning'' when its generall...
that sounds like an empathy problem to me
dawn ice
they got so many issues that idk how you can get past them
i mean, i get that tuning can be enjoyable
lucid obsidian
if you dont like bright sounding headphones compared to your 660s, the xs might ...
I dont mind the treble, but id prefer it to be proportionate to the mid and low end too which is where I feel like all the pairs I have fail. they all suck for mid and low and i literally hate using one of my guitars on it because the pickups are active and very hot so the treble is basically doubled.....and i have to sit and meddle with it to get it to sound decent enough to track...
dawn ice
but there technicals are so weak that it just ruins the experience
lucid obsidian
but yet the minute i change to speakers or anything else it sound wrong so I have to go back and redo it sometimes...and I feel like its cause of how it sounds to me when I hear it in the headphones vs actual speakers
dawn ice
i mean, personally, the reason why i really like planars, and hifiman specifically, is because they sound extremely good with string instruments
lean grove
I dont mind the treble, but id prefer it to be proportionate to the mid and low ...
what are some pairs that you thought failed?
dawn ice
xs are a touch brighter then harman, and they got a recess at 2k (tho ive been using hifiman for a long time so i basically got used to it, so i cant rl say how much it affects things xD)
but overall, they do have a fairly neutral presentation, with a bit of a warmer sound and a bit more emphesis on listening enjoyment then cold monitoring
lucid obsidian
what are some pairs that you thought failed?
I have AKG K52 which i feel are the WORST that i have, then i mainly use my hd660s, or my 600, then i have sony WXHM3 and 4's and a pair of airpod maxs.
ive had friends bring over theirs n stuff but nothing caught my attention so i dont even remember what they had
dawn ice
what sort of music do you listen to the most
lucid obsidian
but the sonys are just junk, wife wont let me get rid of the airpods so i wanna get 1 pair for me and more or less let her use the airpod to herself
dawn ice
lel
lucid obsidian
im mainly rock metal stuff id say?
dawn ice
tbh, get some moondrop chu's for on the go
there unironically better then tws shit for 20$
lean grove
I have AKG K52 which i feel are the WORST that i have, then i mainly use my hd66...
k52 are wacky
dawn ice
technicals arent that strong on them, probably 6xx tier, but the tuning is really good
especially for harder music like metal, really enjoyable with out turning shit in to an xm-like mess
lucid obsidian
well then those are just tuned to be really high on treble because I cant stand it
dawn ice
imagine thinking those were tuned
lean grove
well they suck the mids out too
lucid obsidian
like unless i decide to play apex legends or some cod games with the kids i dont touch the K52s
yeah theres just no mid or low on the k52s or id just keep those and get rid of the rest. but yeah id rather just more or less upgrade across the board into much better quality territory
only thing i like them for is hearing small noises where that treble actually helps me lol
dawn ice
ye, realistically, its probably best to have 1 or 2 sets of good headphones rather then a bunch of meme gear
you gonna hear them with xs anyway since they got really good detail and seperation
lucid obsidian
yeah exactly. i used them all for like 1 to 2 months then settled on the 660s as those seemed the best
dawn ice
just with out the pain of shit treble lol and no bass
lucid obsidian
now they been sitting for years and im sure someone would use em. which would help pay for my new toys!
dawn ice
:p
you could probs sell 660s after you get xs and keep 600 if you want to keep the senny tuned sound
so would help get some money back
since 600's are more of the senny sound then 660s from what i recall
lucid obsidian
yeah i would probably sell everything but the 660s since i like them best, then get the new ones, might have to use some cash for the amp but hey if I can squeeze the XS out of the other 4 pairs i can sell then thatll work lol
and wotn piss the wife off lol
dawn ice
bet
would deffo recommend getting headphones first since that will make the biggest difference
but, a good amp will help out most of your other headphones as well so that would also be a valid papth
languid wolf
Instead of Sony speakers, why doesn't Linus go for Sonos? I've been using them for some years with no issues
lean grove
the sony speakers have some cool tech in them.
sonos, they might have something similar, but probably not as good.
that is the room correction and placement correction stuff
bitter hollow
Instead of Sony speakers, why doesn't Linus go for Sonos? I've been using them f...
Iirc Linus does use Sonos around his house
languid wolf
@lean grove Sonos have that too. Whenever you connect a new speaker to your setup, it will figure out where the speaker is and based on you telling the system where the user is sitting it adjust all speakers volume and such accordingly to give the best sound experience. Sonos has a really good sound too.
lean grove
<@104014747476705280> Sonos have that too. Whenever you connect a new speaker to...
the sonys have real flexibility with placement
not to mention the HT stuff from sonos are soundbars. which are not the best form factor for sound quality
languid wolf
@lean grove I have that heavy big Playbase instead of any of the soundbars
Well, technically, it's a sound bar as well
lean grove
<@104014747476705280> I have that heavy big Playbase instead of any of the sound...
Yeah. Thin means small speakers. And small means to compensate they need to make a massive transmission line which means sluggish bass or a really high excursion which means distortion. Or just poor power handling
Hoffman's iron law stands true.
clear scarab
Yeah…. Maybe
lean grove
Sounds great
molten lotus
I think I may a have soldered the amp wrong
Why
cobalt sparrow
CX31993 or Apple dongle- which one is better for an iPad?
ocean pulsar
Whichever is cheaper
The two are identical
molten lotus
it sounds fine to me bro
molten lotus
Does anyone else experience performance degradation with Windows 11 and Focusrite audio interfaces?
lucid obsidian
Does anyone else experience performance degradation with Windows 11 and Focusrit...
ive been using my 3 year old scarlett 4i4 3rd gen. no issues here! Only problem I have is that my board has thunderbolt and sometimes when I plug/unplug something in thunderbolt sometimes the driver doesnt like it and bsod's on me
molten lotus
ive been using my 3 year old scarlett 4i4 3rd gen. no issues here! Only problem ...
What's the buffer size you have set?
lucid obsidian
i think most ive went to is 512
molten lotus
Right now I have mine on 32. Back when I used Windows 10 I had it on 16 buffer size with no problems.
lucid obsidian
normally i have it on 32 and havent had problems at all.
molten lotus
I see.
I noticed that Focusrite recommended several other steps when handling audio projects too.
Such as modifying USB settings and such.
lucid obsidian
Only other specific thing I did is make sure its on a USB controller that only has that on it so theres no interference between devices as I have alot of USB plugged in.
molten lotus
Right
Do you switch between different buffer sizes in different occasions?
Or is it more or less a set it and forget it thing?
focusrite having driver issues
tale as old as time
lol
lucid obsidian
i swap buffer maybe a couple times a month when i sit down to record some stuff, but i mean even with that havent had an issue with any of my focusrite stuff with win11 or 10
molten lotus
I see.
leaden cloak
CX31993 or Apple dongle- which one is better for an iPad?
Probably the apple one since it might work better with it
simple obsidian
Anyone have experience with the Samsung flip/fold ? Im current use iPhone for personal and for work I have an opportunity to get iPhone or android.
tired steeple
DuaI'm tossing up which dual wireless mic to get to go with my Sony ZV-E10. It's currently between the Rode Wireless Go II and the DJI mic. Most things I have read, is that the DJI set is better and was considering it quite heavily, but it's also AUD$150-AUD$200 more expensive. Price is really the concern for me, but I could just save for longer if the DJI one is really worth it.
I will take any other suggestions, but must have ability for external lav and be dual transmitter
turbid grove
Hi, any recommendation on where to start to become a bit expert in audio analysis?
I make tech, gaming, network tutorials, currently my channel is one of the tops on testing audio in games and 3D audio on PS5, but I want to learn more and become #1 audio analysis channel for games.
where do I start from?
lean grove
Hi, any recommendation on where to start to become a bit expert in audio analysi...
Wdym audio analysis. Just listen.
turbid grove
Wdym audio analysis. Just listen.
For example being able to explain why something sounds muffled in 3D audio mode and fine in stereo mode, which frequencies caused them and how they can fix it by adjusting EQ settings.
But when I know it deeply, I can explain like they're 5
Now, it's too much to understand for them sometimes
lean grove
For example being able to explain why something sounds muffled in 3D audio mode ...
I think you can do that by understanding how these things work and then just listening. If you wanna play around you can download HeSuVin and play around with different profiles.
median frigate
bro i got this equalizer called power amp in ma phone when i increase the lower frequencies the music audio just has more bass and thump but when i enable eq in windows its just distorted like u guys have seem that memes right its just super loud n crumbly idk how to explain its just that the phone eq gives me better bass. any idea on what to do? i am not the audio guy i dont know much
lean grove
bro i got this equalizer called power amp in ma phone when i increase the lower ...
Your computer amp is distorting. So that's a result of it not having enough power to handle the EQ.
median frigate
so what am i supposed to do to get better bass?
is there something i need to buy?
molten lotus
is there something i need to buy?
headphone or speaker?
molten lotus
meh, you are screwed
and it's probably because your phone doesn't have the power to give it what you are asking
where your desktop does
"gaming headphones" are just objectively bad
median frigate
and it's probably because your phone doesn't have the power to give it what you ...
wait
my phone
gives me better bass than my pc
wdym my phone doesnt have enough power?
molten lotus
It's cutting off what you have set in your amp and forcing it into a range that is better suited for the headphones you have
err eq
sorry not amp eq
median frigate
It's cutting off what you have set in your amp and forcing it into a range that ...
ive tried it with a jbl wired earphones and same thing
now i just gotta listen to flat music
:/
molten lotus
My current headphones had a pretty steep drop off in sub bass
molten lotus
but the bass is MUCH better than I've ever had before, because it's controlled
median frigate
so basically i hav this old samsung phoine
for some reason
when a low frequency comes in audio
it just reduces the volume
iwas like fuk u
i was waiting for this beat drop
n u just reduce the volume
then i got to know abt this power amp thing
there is something called DVC in it
it just makes it perfect
molten lotus
@molten lotus what would be a good basshead set of cans?
or IEM's so this kid doesn't annoy the shit out of anyone in a 10block radius
I'd say with 90% certainty
median frigate
btw i saw this IEM for 20$ what do u think should i get it?
molten lotus
that your headpones are the problem
molten lotus
if it's moondrop
wait....no not moon drop lemme find them real quick
there
I don't have these
but from what I understand and from what many reviewers have said, untill you get around the +$100 range it's kind of pointless since these exist.
unfortunately for me there isn't a set of cans that are comparable in that price range
lean grove
its a usb one :/
If that's the case then it's not a power issue. It's whatever EQ your computer is using
There are different qualities of EQ
Different ways to do it
I still think your PC is clipping. But that's because the software is boosting without regard for the maximum power of your headphones
The one on your phone probably is compensating for the lack of power by making other frequencies quieter
median frigate
If that's the case then it's not a power issue. It's whatever EQ your computer i...
can u suggest me a free good eq
median frigate
The one on your phone probably is compensating for the lack of power by making o...
the inbuilt eq does reduce other frrequencies when i increase the bass slider
but power amp doesnt do that for some reason
lean grove
can u suggest me a free good eq
PeaceUI and equalizer apo. They are very powerful, kind of complicated, but it's the most common.
median frigate
😔
molten lotus
@lean grove I still think it's his pc has enough power to over drive the headphones and they just can't handle the oomph.....ever heard a cheap paper cone 8" sub on a 250watt amp? it sounds crunchy af.
lean grove
<@104014747476705280> I still think it's his pc has enough power to over drive t...
Your ears will fail before the headphone driver will
Clipping is happening somewhere
But the main thing is that it's happening on his PC but not his phone
molten lotus
Your ears will fail before the headphone driver will
I've had drivers crack before. Those Zalman headphones, a pair of Grado's and some shitty USB headphones. Like work fine then start buzzing. Disassembled them and find cracks in the plastic of the drivers.
median frigate
Clipping is happening somewhere
is there a way to unclip it?
I've also tried it with some analog headphones (3.5mm JBL earphones) those have insane bass when used with my phone but like not enough bass with pc again
also when i try increasing the lower frequency slider in the Groove music app the audio loudness just reduces
doesnt happen with my phone
molten lotus
why are you using GROOVE?
haughty girder
also when i try increasing the lower frequency slider in the Groove music app th...
what you're hearing there is clipping
you're boosting audio frequencies digitally which is forcing them to 0dbfs
median frigate
why are you using GROOVE?
What else am i supposed to use? and it comes preinstalled so lol
haughty girder
basically as loud as the digital signal allows
you'd need to use a digital preamp and lower every other frequency
so that your boosted frequency doesn't peak 0dbfs
median frigate
my 1.5hz brain isnt understanding what u r saying ill show this to my brother and get my goddamn pc fixed
thanks btw
molten lotus
<@456226577798135808> what would be a good basshead set of cans?
e-mu teak
rare hamlet
Are bower’s and Wilkins good headphones?
dry stratus
Are bower’s and Wilkins good headphones?
No, they are like
Some of the worst
Actual dumpster fires
steep stream
does anyone have any experience with Qudelix 5k and fiio BTR5 and or 7
and whether theres any point in getting either
visual mural
Does anyone know of any good pairs of wireless headphones that are compatible with PC and PS5?
dry stratus
Depends what you want to use it for
Good wireless for gaming?, doesn’t exist
Maybe something mediocre
visual mural
How about iPhone and PC
dry stratus
Doesn’t change, “depends what you want to use it for”
Compatible with ps5 and pc exists, but good wireless with low latency?, no
visual mural
Just want a wireless headset that's compatible with my phone, laptop, and PlayStation
Basically these but cheaper
visual mural
Alr I'll go without the gaming compatability then
dry stratus
But AKG n700nc(m2) is best wireless
For sub 150 at least usually here
Better than any honestly…
Well, focal bathys ig but it is like 800
visual mural
Ok I'll check those out
stark aspen
What do you guys think about the Black Shark V2? https://www.soundguys.com/razer-blackshark-v2-review-36783/
Audio seems decent for the price range:
haughty girder
Audio seems decent for the price range:
Yikes.
nova wagon
how about the hyperx cloud ii
stark aspen
how about the hyperx cloud ii
leaden cloak
Does anyone know of any good pairs of wireless headphones that are compatible wi...
Does the PS5 support Bluetooth headphones?
dry stratus
What do you guys think about the Black Shark V2? https://www.soundguys.com/razer...
All razer is trash
Also
Ew, soundguys
stark aspen
Also
Ew, soundguys
What do you suggest to use instead?
stark aspen
All razer is trash
I don't think things are so simple but if you say so
dry stratus
In this case it is, lel
haughty moon
yes they are so simple when it comes to razer ...
dry stratus
Razer makes beats for gamers
stark aspen
What do you think about the senheiser 450bt?
bronze kayak
Or the hd800?
dawn ice
hd800's are super neach
kinda got power crept by og arya since they offer similar stage size just with nearly none of the drawbacks of hd800
tho i could still see hd800 being preffered in some super neach cases
bronze kayak
I tried the beoplay hx recently and they sounded pretty nice. Comfortable too but I only tried in store
bronze kayak
~500
dawn ice
ye get edition xs and then maybe look for a black meizu hifi dongle to use as a budget amp if you dont have one
or you could spend a bit more and pick up either ifi zen dac, or something like the schiit asgard3
dry stratus
What do you think about the senheiser 450bt?
Sennheiser is incapable of closed backs
dawn ice
or open backs for the most part lol
dry stratus
Mostly orpheus, hd560s and hd800/hd6x0 for specific uses
dry stratus
6x0 for those who literally only listen to slow classical music, hd800 for try hard gaming
stark aspen
Sennheiser is incapable of closed backs
Lol everyone keeps saying what's not good but can anyone suggest something that is good instead?
nova wagon
Lol everyone keeps saying what's not good but can anyone suggest something that ...
cloud ii?
molten lotus
Lol everyone keeps saying what's not good but can anyone suggest something that ...
k361
dawn ice
Lol everyone keeps saying what's not good but can anyone suggest something that ...
edition xs, ez
nova wagon
edition xs, ez
yea good luck finding one at 50 eur
dawn ice
noone said 50e
dawn ice
fair then
dry stratus
yea good luck finding one at 50 eur
Scam their mothers
burnt lotus
Help
I got an sennheiser 80r for free and idk if its any good
I'm using my headset mic rn
dry stratus
All I find is “vintage”
dry stratus
Vintage = trash by modern standards probably
But idk, never needed a mic as a non english speaking person
molten lotus
Vintage = trash by modern standards probably
nah
you would be surprised how often it is the opposite
dry stratus
you would be surprised how often it is the opposite
For headphones, sure
But mics too?
molten lotus
oh I didn't realize we were talking about mics
there are notable vintage mics but yeah not good overall
stark aspen
he did, you should have scrolled up a bit
Looking for something around a $100
nova wagon
Then cloud ii easily
molten lotus
Looking for something around a $100
we already gave you recommendations
stop asking if you don't want them
stark aspen
Then cloud ii easily
Okay thanks
stark aspen
he answered you three times
Ever occurred that i was asking different people?
Just because you are in the same server doesn't mean I'm directly talking to you
molten lotus
I am sure those different people would have answered you by the 20th time you posted the same question
stark aspen
I am sure those different people would have answered you by the 20th time you po...
Opinion noted
haughty moon
cloud II
molten lotus
have you heard of the cloud ii
stark aspen
have you heard of the cloud ii
Not thanks to you mate
haughty moon
I probably should get them at some point
haughty moon
if I am to recommend them I think I should listen to them extensively at some point
molten lotus
fair
dry stratus
if I am to recommend them I think I should listen to them extensively at some po...
Just listen to susvara and buy them
haughty moon
If you give them to me for sure
I don't have the money to get that kind of headphone
haughty moon
I don't know what those are
dry stratus
60k€ marble headphone
haughty moon
Well free is free ...
dry stratus
haughty moon
That's a nice kit
molten lotus
og looks better
haughty moon
Beautiful
dusk flame
Any tips on getting a better sound out of a cheap turntable?
cobalt sparrow
Want to hear the og
the amp looks like a stage ngl
leaden cloak
I always thought it looked like an old stereo
leaden cloak
Up to 100$ lets say
Probably AKG K361. They’re around that
molten lotus
Probably AKG K361. They’re around that
Thank u. Im gaming on a laptop if that matters. I was between kraken ultimate and hyperx cloud 2. Are the akg better?
leaden cloak
Sound wise yes
molten lotus
Will i need an external sound card?
leaden cloak
Nope
Unless your laptop is like really old it shouldn’t have an issue powering modern headphones
molten lotus
Do they have surround sound? Its the only requirement
why
molten lotus
why
Cause i want them for games
surround is worse for games
its a dumb gimmick
makes audio directly worse
lean grove
Do they have surround sound? Its the only requirement
surround sound never adds anything. its simply taking the sound coming from your game, adding an EQ and some reverb, and then injecting it back into your headphones.
its an illusion to make you think that your headphones might not be headphones. but in the process you lose a lot of clarity
best case scenario, it makes some things more pleasing to listen to on some headphones
the other problem is that a lot of games have this baked in to their game engines. so when you enable this, you have two layers of virtual surround. which could do more damage than good in terms of positional audio
what you want instead is a headphone which will do the things naturally that you're trying to emulate
aka an open back
weary knoll
Man people are brave buying tube anything right now
I had to retube my guitar amp, and it costed almost 600CAD
somber fractal
I have one of those 2009 Onkyo receivers
serene surge
What do we think about G435? it is $40CAD+tax right now on amazon for free shipping
elder coyote
Yall think for like 200-250 I could get a nice speaker/monitor setup? Also if so, what would I get?? Like I think most speakers/monitors are passive?? So I would need a dac and amp or dac/amp and then the speakers themselves?
lean grove
Yall think for like 200-250 I could get a nice speaker/monitor setup? Also if so...
most monitors are powered. it allows them to make a flatter sounding speaker that way with DSP
kali, jbl lsr305,
elder coyote
most monitors are powered. it allows them to make a flatter sounding speaker tha...
interesting. Do they usually chain together for power, or each has their own like dual prong plug? Also what kinda input is common? RCA?
So all i'd need is just 2 powered monitors and I should get a dedicated dac? Do I really need a sub?
lean grove
interesting. Do they usually chain together for power, or each has their own lik...
each speaker is powered. so one speaker will contain one amp inside of it.
and sometimes they have RCA, but most of the time they use XLR or 1/4" TS plugs
a good dac will make them sound better. but a lot of the time powered monitors have a hiss that you cant get rid of
its usually very quiet, but when nothings playing in a small room you will hear it
an a subwoofer is entirely up to you
powered monitors usually have a decent amount of bass in them.
more than bookshelves in their price range due to the magic of ✨ DSP ✨
so if you want to pay a few hundred dollars get an extension down to 20-30hz, thats entirely up to you.
subwoofers also let your speakers play louder since bass frequencies require a lot more energy from the speaker
elder coyote
powered monitors usually have a decent amount of bass in them.
what kinda size would be okay? 5" or 6" or anything else also dsp as in digital signal processor?
lean grove
what kinda size would be okay? 5" or 6" or anything else also dsp as in digital ...
woofer size wont tell you much. but generally the bigger the woofer, the more power and more bass it will have. but also the bigger the woofer, the further you should be placing it from ytou
DSP is digital signal processing yes. its pretty much really fancy EQ
either the kali or the jbl lsr are the best best entry level prices
they go on sale pretty often
elder coyote
woofer size wont tell you much. but generally the bigger the woofer, the more p...
size for the monitors? Also, dsp is like a feature. I have watched some car videos and those include a stand alone dsp unit. Like they have an amp AND a dsp box. But this is not what we are talking about?
molten lotus
aka an open back
Thanks for the info. What's open back?
elder coyote
Thanks for the info. What's open back?
i think it's' where they don't seal all the way (even by holes in ear cup) . hence having an open back. People will be able to hear what you hear. You will be able to hear people/surroundings, but I am pretty sure they are better for sound staging???? and maybe some other stuff
So air can flow in and out of ear space. If it was closed off, the sound could only be made by creating temporary pressure, instead of just by moving air.
lean grove
size for the monitors? Also, dsp is like a feature. I have watched some car vide...
the amplifiers in the monitors have DSP baked into them. only in the very expensive ones can you change it, i think. sometimes they offer switches on the back to provide different DSP profiles. like one for close to wall, or sitting on a desk, or like a bunch of other settings
lean grove
Thanks for the info. What's open back?
its where the back is physically open.
when you have a closed headphone, you're isolating the sound more. but the sound thats coming out of the rear gets reflected back towards your ears. and it makes them sound less natural
open backs just have that sound go out of the headphone. so they do not isolate as well. depending on the headphone, they sound like you're not wearing anything at all
virtual surround sound fucks with the sound to make things sound more spacious. open backs do that naturally
lean grove
size for the monitors? Also, dsp is like a feature. I have watched some car vide...
also the size of the monitors yeah. bigger generally can play louder and go deeper for bass. but they aren't as good up close.
and the third one i just remembered is iloud micro monitors
so good entry level options:
JBL lsr305
kali lp-6 v2
iloud micro monitors
elder coyote
hmmm, interesting. I have this, dell zylux a425. It is forever old, used to be on the old family pc, now I have it as speakers for my pc. I think that monitors would be a good upgrade, though these things (at least to me) don't sound bad and can get pretty loud and with a dedicated sub, bassy too
(not my pic, found on google)
elder coyote
bruhhh 🗿 don't come for me
im sure new $250 monitors would sound better, but like these sound better than like $20 walmart speakers (idk im guessing 💀 I don't have anything to compare it to)
lean grove
im sure they're worth the money
well. assuming you got them for free
theres a lot of modern stuff thats similar thats way overpriced
elder coyote
well. assuming you got them for free
didn't pay for them, just came off old family pc. they are at least like 10 years old
civic beacon
im sure new $250 monitors would sound better, but like these sound better than l...
They are most likely rebadged Harmon/Kardon or Samsung OEM speakers from 15+ years ago. We had a similar (albeit even older) set from Dell with Harmon/Kardon branding all over them whose speaker drivers and control board were Samsung manufactured.
Did they sound great? Eh, compared to sub-$150 CAD speakers, sure, otherwise they were nothing special.
lean grove
the ilouds will be best for you, i think
they will ahve the most familiar inputs and outputs
and be the easiest to setup
elder coyote
bruhh $350? 💀 I was thinking like 200-250 for dac + new monitors 🗿 🗿
plus if they don't have a sub and they have drivers that small iidkkkk
lean grove
for 200-250, look at edifiers
elder coyote
bookshelf vs computer speaker difference? Liike ik just names, but maybe computer speakers tend to be smaller etc??
lean grove
plus if they don't have a sub and they have drivers that small iidkkkk
their bass is flat down to 57hz. which is probably within spitting distance of your dells
not to mention they are linear at every thign above that too
lean grove
bookshelf vs computer speaker difference? Liike ik just names, but maybe comput...
computer speakers do tend to be smaller.
but every other speaker manufacturer assumes that you're gonna be setting these up properly rather than throwing them underneath your monitors or among the other clutter on your desk
klipsch promedia 2.1 would probably be more in-line with what you're looking for
lean grove
the secret of audio is that everything gets marked up 4-5x what it cost to make
so those $110 usd speakers you linked cost $20-$25 to make
in terms of raw parts
probably labor included as well
so yes. everything is cheap.
elder coyote
hmm ill have to look into all of em. I'd like something that sounds good. But I also don't really even use my computer that much and don't have much money 🤣 so we will see.
lean grove
ive looked into a lot of them
edifier or klipsch promedia
those are the best options
lean grove
so good entry level options:
JBL lsr305
kali lp-6 v2
iloud micro monitors
the next best thing woudl be to see if you can find some of these guys used on ebay or facebook marketplace
everything else is pretty bad.
open scaffold
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-Powered-Monitor-Speakers-Near-Field/dp/B09DKV849B...
These are actually the best option at least active wise at its price, until you hit the Neumi BS5Ps. But fsr the Neumis seem to be out of stock a lot.
frank urchin
@lean grove why hello there
molten lotus
Do you think it is worth waiting for a possible release of the beat fit pro 2s? rn im using air pods pro 1 with broken noice cancellation and they don’t have the best grip in my ears for workouts, still idk if it is worth it, buying headphones which are 2 years old
(the beats fit pro then)
sharp oracle
Hello there. I was thinking if you can help me with choosing my next headphones. At the moment I have Corsair void elite in wireless variant but the battery is not exactly new + some things are not really good while using them so I was thinking obout "newly" released JBL Quantum 910. Does someone have experience with JBL or this model? Thanks so much!
lean grove
Hello there. I was thinking if you can help me with choosing my next headphones....
What's your budget and is this gonna be just for gaming and desk stuff?
sharp oracle
What's your budget and is this gonna be just for gaming and desk stuff?
my budget is around 300€ and it is mainly for PC gaming
lean grove
my budget is around 300€ and it is mainly for PC gaming
Would you be open to the idea of wired headphones?
sharp oracle
Would you be open to the idea of wired headphones?
I would be open to them, but I prefer wireless because just walking away from PC and not put them down is convenient 😅
Just want to say that I dont have any high-end sound card (just one integrated on my MOBO) so I dont know how much power it would deliver to jack headphones
lean grove
Well good for you the headphones I'm about to tell you to buy can be run off of pretty much anything
sharp oracle
thats amazing
lean grove
The Sennheiser hd560s. Theyre standalone headphones, so no mic
But external mics are usually better.
sharp oracle
Yea, I have one external mic so thats no problem
lean grove
Even better
sharp oracle
I read that they have open backs, would they leak sound to surrounding space?
lean grove
Yeah, but it's only really problem if you listen at super loud volumes in a very quiet room.
sharp oracle
amazing, ok. Thanks very much!
out of curiosity, if I buy some better sound card in the future, will it improve the sound?
I know Im maybe asking dumb question but Im not really knowledable in sound and music technology
lean grove
It's a good question.
But also a bit of a long winded answer that doesn't really tell you much.
I will tell you that I've spent a lot of money on my sound equipment and I think it's worthwhile.
But most people probably won't spend as much money as me.
If you want just a basic improvement, there are some USB dongles for phones that are a big improvement over motherboard audio.
The apple USB type C headphone adapter is a good cheap upgrade.
And there's a lot of other dongles which use the cx31993 chip which are also very good.
Since you're in Europe, the apple dongle is actually really power limited for regulation reasons.
So you'd wanna find a cx31993 dongle.
If you want to go up from there, you should expect to pay €150 euros for a serious improvement.
sharp oracle
ok, I think thats little more than Im willing to pay for sound at the moment. I will mark the chip you've said
Thanks again for all the info!
lean grove
I believe the Abigail dongle is the most common cx31993 dongle
molten lotus
out of curiosity, if I buy some better sound card in the future, will it improve...
not really
sound cards by definition are cards integrated into computers
for those there is a very small market demand, contrary to the hifi sector which these headphones nils recommended you are well connected to
in which DACs and amplifiers exist to provide better sound
but before you get to the point of buying dacs and amps you should be investing in better headphones anyways since that is what you will benefit from the most
unless you have volume issues with your headphones which an amplifier can help with
lean grove
For clarification, Klaus is talking about internal sound cards
I've been talking about external sound card aka DACs and amps
molten lotus
there is no such thing as an external sound card
sharp oracle
I see... so these Sennheisers are great entry point but if, in future, I would like to upgrade its better to start with headphones?
molten lotus
yeah
lean grove
there is no such thing as an external sound card
It's an antiquated term
molten lotus
if the term was as you described it to be there would be no end to calling anything a sound card
lean grove
You're a sound card
molten lotus
this is true
sharp oracle
there is no such thing as an external sound card
arent they, like these big boxes?
lucid obsidian
Lol same thing even by definition. It’s a sound card. Only thing that makes it a “card” is that it’s internal. Even creative made external sound cards…..
dry stratus
still a lot more than original price
plain widget
obviously
dawn ice
Get hek v1 now
plain widget
still a lot more than original price
can you even find them at original price
lean grove
No
dawn ice
No no chance
dry stratus
no
plain widget
you can't even find them at any price at all
lean grove
It's a stupid thing to suggest
plain widget
though as soon as I bought these one dude put them out for 1000$ on canuck audio market
he said he got a lot of ofers above the asking price so proly also went for at least 1.5k
4 screw "early production" supposedly.
plain widget
so a decade old now.
2 words you do not wanna see together, "hifiman" and "old". let alone "hifiman" and "decade old"
plain widget
How do you like it
tbh i just got them out of the shipping box 
and didn't get much listening time, but slams af.
also I don't yet have a proper amp so I'm welcome to suggestions.
dawn ice
Hk770 would be a cheap option if you want power for he6
lean grove
Apple dongle
plain widget
Apple dongle
I gave it off together with a Sennheiser hd580 to a friend
lean grove
Damn you're low-fi now
plain widget
Damn you're low-fi now
from dongles I only have Questyle M15 now "sadly"
so indeed low-fi
hmmm
uhhhh
I mean
it works...
as in makes noise but uhhhh
long temple
👀
molten lotus
Lol same thing even by definition. It’s a sound card. Only thing that makes it a...
it isn't
they are lexically different
even if something is a card and processes sound it does not make it a sound card
unique wind
why don’t you lexically get some bitches
haughty girder
there is no such thing as an external sound card
PCIe risers say otherwise:
but technically they do exist it's just rare
because once you're external there's loads of better options
haughty girder
arent they, like these big boxes?
an audio interface turns analogue signals into digital data
lucid obsidian
it isn't
It is…..you just said it yourself.
Same thing sound cards can do too.
Just don’t like the term “sound card” lol
lucid obsidian
an audio interface turns analogue signals into digital data
So what’s a line in port do for me on my PC? The same one I plug my guitar into and record sound into my PC? Seems like it takes that analog data and turns it into digital. Hell there’s even some motherboards with TRS on them….
haughty girder
So what’s a line in port do for me on my PC? The same one I plug my guitar into ...
yep that's what the line in does, but two things: line in are already at high enough voltage so preamp is either not present or total dogshit
and the integrated adc is almost always complete garbage anyway
lucid obsidian
lol doesnt matter whatever else extra it does. it does the same thing as an audio interface. They just add extra to make it better.
lucid obsidian
yep. i record through my line in port jsut the same as i do an input port on my focusrite 4i4....
haughty girder
ie microphone
lucid obsidian
no mic, i was saying i use guitar or from amp.
haughty girder
I was giving the main use case for needing an interface
needing clean gain for a mic that outputs mic level
and usually giving phantom power for condensers
be it 24v or 48v because yay audio
lucid obsidian
exactly. nothing crazy different. both do the same thing at the bottom level. sure theres extra crap each maker puts in to make it their own. but besides the 48v some mics need. "audio interface" and "sound card" are the same thing.
lucid obsidian
lol and yet what cant one do that the other can?
haughty girder
the card portion of the name means it's internal expansion card
lucid obsidian
yes we get that card means it goes in a slot...but even creative made external cards....
molten lotus
It is…..you just said it yourself.
it isn't the definition
haughty girder
lol and yet what cant one do that the other can?
drive an sm7b... or sm57 for that matter
molten lotus
not lexically
lucid obsidian
as i said...besides the 48v. they both take analog signal and make it digital.
haughty girder
yes we get that card means it goes in a slot...but even creative made external c...
creative is also kinda not doing too well
lucid obsidian
doesnt matter if they do well or not. they made the product. so a "card" doesnt apply here.
its the same. i know its "insulting" to you audio kings...but its the same.
haughty girder
And every company calls iems "earbuds"
or worse yet, earphones
so is an earbud and iem different?
they both make sound
One just seals in your ear and the other doesn't
Or what about a subwoofer and a woofer?
lucid obsidian
lol earbuds....no actual sound hardware that requires power cables and what not...
haughty girder
They both make sound
lucid obsidian
see.... you are catching on bud.
haughty girder
you're cherry picking details and purposefully avoiding the point I'm trying to make
Different classes of products don't have interchangable names
I wouldn't call a subwoofer a "speaker"
lucid obsidian
not cherry picking any details...just one. they both take analog sound, and make it digital.
haughty girder
That doesn't make both sound cards
lucid obsidian
therefore they are both sound cards. you seem to thing one makes it an audio interface because it can drive a certain type of microphone.
haughty girder
sound processor maybe
molten lotus
sound card is a term
haughty girder
Because it's a completely different class of products
lucid obsidian
no shit.
molten lotus
this
lucid obsidian
sound card is a term
and yet you had to post the definition of a audio interface.......
molten lotus
that was a sound card
lucid obsidian
no the focusrite is an audio inteface.
haughty girder
wtf
molten lotus
what I posted was the definition of an audio interface
lucid obsidian
yes, after someone asked if a focusrite was a sound card....
molten lotus
which I replied no to
haughty girder
it isn't
lucid obsidian
it does the same thing. aside from the extra part of driving a mic. it does the same thing
i play music from mine all day....it does.
haughty girder
you're describing an ADC not a sound card
having an ADC or DAC does not make it a sound card
by that definition my phone is a sound card
lucid obsidian
there is a sound processor in your phone bud....
haughty girder
every one of my wireless landline phones do too
lucid obsidian
but no input and output.....
lucid obsidian
INPUT.
lucid obsidian
my phone dont have the jack.....
what do i do now....have to buy more adapters n shit...
haughty girder
L skill issue tbh
lucid obsidian
no by that stupid logic a speaker is a sound card too.
haughty girder
If it has a digital input then yes
lucid obsidian
IF....
haughty girder
and you admitted it, it's stupid
lucid obsidian
sound cards always have IN and OUT
you just pulling random shit out of left field....like how a phone even relevant......
haughty girder
I've been trying to tell you that sound cards are a class of product, the product being a device with an dac and/or adc
lucid obsidian
no its a stupid term..
haughty girder
That's your issue
lean grove
why don’t you lexically get some bitches
That statement single handedly ended Klaus' career
lucid obsidian
it does the same thing an audio interface does. besides the mic part....
haughty girder
and I prove to you it isn't and you say I'm pulling random facts
lucid obsidian
thats it. other than a 48v mic which I dont use...I can do every single thing with my internal sound card as my external focusrite.
haughty girder
then why don't you?
lucid obsidian
i do.
molten lotus
@lucid obsidian it literally does not matter what you think
because what you think is objectively the false of what is right
lucid obsidian
lol so you say but im just going by your own defenition bud...
haughty girder
Which says internal
lucid obsidian
but by your logic people who cant use a DAW shouldnt touch XLR.....fucking genius logic there....
haughty girder
And most interfaces aren't internal
molten lotus
I literally posted the definition of a sound card
and it is the opposite of what you proclaim
lucid obsidian
I literally posted the definition of a sound card
Posted defention of AUDIO INTERFACE not SOUND CARD.....remember the difference?
molten lotus
I posted the definition of a sound card
literally
this is the screenshot I posted
lucid obsidian
yes bud.
molten lotus
it says sound card on it not an audio interface
haughty girder
Internal expansion card and external expansion card
that's the classes of product
lucid obsidian
about someone who asking if focusrite is sound card...
focusrite is audio interface.
molten lotus
which is what I said
haughty girder
which klaus promptly said it was not a sound card
lucid obsidian
Lol i love it. watching you guys get so butthurt about terminology
molten lotus
that is an audio interface
.
lucid obsidian
sound cards are audio interfaces. deal with it. it hurts i know.
molten lotus
they are not
haughty girder
have fun being wrong~
lucid obsidian
Look at em go!
molten lotus
haughty girder
Anyways I've clearly made my point enough times that I can only assume you're scared of being wrong. I'll let you ponder it and come back when you finally realize.
lean grove
I think that is one of Klaus' top ten fears
unique wind
top 3
lean grove
Sound cards are a commonly misused term.
Common enough that I think that's the understood meaning for some people whether it's accurate or not
twilit pasture
Anyone know any decent not to expensive Bluetooth earbuds that have tracking for like under or around $125 usd I’d be all set if it wasn’t the need for tracking the style aim is the all in ear kinda like the Beats Studio buds and such
leaden cloak
Sound cards are a commonly misused term.
People call usb dongles sound cards so yeah. Ive never called one one that so I don’t understand where that came from
flat crow
What's the difference between the Mogami digital cable and the Studio cable ?
leaden cloak
Probably nothing?
tardy sequoia
does this channel also cover PC audio?
molten lotus
only ps5
tardy sequoia
Only reason I'm asking I recently grabbed some creative pebble v3's and I wanted to say for small form factor speakers they are remarkably good for their low cost.
leaden cloak
does this channel also cover PC audio?
No sorry we only cover game consoles
leaden cloak
Only reason I'm asking I recently grabbed some creative pebble v3's and I wanted...
we do tend to recommend them for the cheap peeps
placid geyser
does this channel also cover PC audio?
flat crow
Only reason I'm asking I recently grabbed some creative pebble v3's and I wanted...
they are not small that's average
haughty girder
<:myunCry:1031945402473263155> they are not small that's average
that's average?
bro a 4" driver is bigger than the entire pebble
flat crow
that's average?
lean grove
flat crow
How good / bad is the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen ?
modern blaze
How good / bad is the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen ?
It's alright, depending on your xlr mic
flat crow
It's alright, depending on your xlr mic
I was planning to use the m70 x Pro From beyerdynamic
modern blaze
I was planning to use the m70 x Pro From beyerdynamic
dunno what sort of gain the m70 x pro needs, but if the focusrite can't hang (was the case with my shure xm58), the audient id4 mk2 certainly can.
flat crow
Bout it cost twice as much. Bout I can't find some information about the gain
modern blaze
Yeah 😦
Most likely you will be fine with the focusrite
flat crow
So getting a FetHead also is a good idea
modern blaze
At that point I would just get the id4 instead, for about the same price
molten lotus
How good / bad is the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen ?
not good
modern blaze
The focusrite stuff is most definitely entry level, as expected at the price point
modern blaze
Id4?
Just me recommending the audient id4 again, as opposed to a focusrite solo + fethead.
flat crow
https://geizhals.de/audient-id4-mkii-a2454502.html is this the right one?
modern blaze
https://geizhals.de/audient-id4-mkii-a2454502.html is this the right one?
It is indeed
molten lotus
The focusrite stuff is most definitely entry level, as expected at the price poi...
its bad for the price
its bad in general
molten lotus
gameboy is also supported but the mods may get mad
wintry oasis
gameboy is also supported but the mods may get mad
Controversial topic 
deft osprey
using a shure sm7b with a goxlr mini and this keeps happening, anyone got any ideas
I've been having some issues with the goxlr recently but this is a recurring issue, I always manage to fix it (usually by changing cable location to reduce interference) but that doesn't seem to be working this time
it's worse than ever
nova whale
any recommendations for wireless headset mic system? going to be used mainly for singing
currently looking at BLX14/SM31FH and XSW1- ME3 but also open to suggestions
supple kestrel
higher Hz and bit number for flac = better right
lean grove
higher Hz and bit number for flac = better right
sure.
flat crow
its bad in general
Did you have a alternative beside the Audient iD4 MKII
open scaffold
Did you have a alternative beside the Audient iD4 MKII
What's your budget? What do you need it for? Just 1 XLR mic? Anything specific your looking for feature wise?
flat crow
Budget 150 just 1 xlr mic Metall frame
median frigate
https://geizhals.de/audient-id4-mkii-a2454502.html is this the right one?
if you dont mind me asking
why are these things expensive? what is the use of them?
inland bobcat
What's the difference between the Mogami digital cable and the Studio cable ?
I got this cause it was funnier
open scaffold
Budget 150 just 1 xlr mic Metall frame
I like the Arturia Minifuse 2 at that price. Can get the minifuse 1 if you want instead, it just doesn't have a mix knob, but the performance is still great. And both come in both white and black so you can choose which you'd like.
open scaffold
if you dont mind me asking
why are these things expensive? what is the use of t...
Mainly used to connect XLR mics/instruments to computers. But they also serve as clean dacs and have direct monitoring.
The good ones in the $100-$200 price range provide so much value, they're great.
median frigate
Mainly used to connect XLR mics/instruments to computers. But they also serve as...
Ohh
Okay
inland bobcat
I wacked myself in the face with a rode psa1 microphone arm earlier
open scaffold
Sounds like fun
shut shard
Ayo that looks as big as my...
inland bobcat
Liar
shut shard
Btw what're those small mics people attach to their collars called like those rly small ones u can hold with two fingers?
inland bobcat
Cambells soup can
shut shard
?? It's a painting
open scaffold
Btw what're those small mics people attach to their collars called like those rl...
Lavaliers?
flat crow
I got this cause it was funnier
Why is it funny?
flat crow
I got the Mogami MICSTU0500BL and yes it's overpriced bout in best case you only buy one cable. If you only have 1 XLR Mic
I paid 425€ (+shipping and taxes) now I got the M70 X Pro, iD4 MK2 , Mogami MICSTU0500BL. Can you get an XLR setup cheaper yes defently bout that's the components I chose
bitter hollow
Are those mics good enough for work calls?
LTT uses (probably very expensive) lav mic setups
Really the challenge with lav microphones is getting them into your laptop
Or desktop
Either way
molten lotus
Did you have a alternative beside the Audient iD4 MKII
m track solo
you should not be paying more than 100$ in total for an xlr setup that will not be used for recording music
flat crow
you should not be paying more than 100$ in total for an xlr setup that will not ...
Yes bout as always its personal preference.
bitter hollow
mics don't get better more you pay
They absolutely do lmao
molten lotus
no they don't
every audio engineer I know acknowledges this and uses mics that range from 50-100$ for personal use
if you can't make a microphone good in post recording its commonly known as a skill issue
weak rapids
More rgb = faster sound
weak rapids
Pro tip: to get spicy sound, place your xlr cable right next to power bricks, everyone will love it
flat crow
Pro tip: to get spicy sound, place your xlr cable right next to power bricks, ev...
A good isolated cable can help to prevent that maybe
void wind
Something I've seen used to great effect on unisolated cables is braided wire sleeves. (Technically I use them for welding, but it sure cuts down on the interference with my bluetooth earbuds...)
weak rapids
A good isolated cable can help to prevent that maybe <:myunShrug:103194542574744...
Nah we like spicy sound
But seriously i just let mine fall to the floor instead of propping it on the desk with all the other cables
modern blaze
you should not be paying more than 100$ in total for an xlr setup that will not ...
I used the id4 because it had enough mic gain for my rode podmic. Of course, I then promptly replaced the podmic with a shure xm58 (and these days a rode wireless go ii) anyway, so it didn't really matter.
molten lotus
podmic costs 50$ more than what it's worth
modern blaze
¯_(ツ)_/¯
weak rapids
Gotta buy that Blue Kiwi for game chat lol
weak rapids
Nah put a 2009 webcam on a mic arm and use it for its mic lol
modern blaze
seems legit
weak rapids
Years ago my friend straight up grabbed one of those dentist light arms from the trash and put an old headset on it for his mic
During that I was using my blue yeti with it on omni directional and placed to the left behind my keyboard lmao
inland bobcat
Why is it funny?
How is a cable named pig hog not funny
molten lotus
if you can’t eq these to sound good it’s commonly known as a skill issue
what might actually be funny is that they could sound better than some +$200 "GAMING HEADSETS"
shut shard
what might actually be funny is that they could sound better than some +$200 "GA...
Really?
molten lotus
no
leaden cloak
Nah put a 2009 webcam on a mic arm and use it for its mic lol
Have you ever accidentally turned it on and it’s just a view of your mouth?
haughty girder
They absolutely do lmao
a neat worker bee in a sound treated room will sound better than a u87 in a "bad" room
sound treatment makes a bigger difference than the actual mic
so while yes they do, only in specific circumstances
haughty girder
you should not be paying more than 100$ in total for an xlr setup that will not ...
agree with this
xm8500 + foam windscreen + m track solo will be as good or better than an sm7b + apollo if they user doesn't know how to use the mic or doesn't use it for any meaningful purpose other than "just talking in voice calls and streaming to twitch"
as much as I hate the quadcast and yeti, the reason they're popular is because they're good enough for their market
molten lotus
as much as I hate the quadcast and yeti, the reason they're popular is because t...
which is an incredibly low bar
if I had a dollar for every lavalier mic that costed less than 10$ and sounded better than either of those id be a millionaire by a week of testing
haughty girder
eh
I was gonna do that lmao
I don't have solid core wire on hand
and using a stick of solder doesn't seem like the greatest idea even if it's lead free
and I most certainly won't use leaded solder heheh
fading ridge
Soundbar Or Speakers?
molten lotus
speakers easily
though allegedly some soundbars may be better for spatial audio
but they are always worse sounding than proper speakers except for that
fading ridge
Ah! Ty
molten lotus
keep in mind, some
haughty girder
not soldering it lmao
oh i was talking about making a boom
molten lotus
a desk mounted one?
or like attaching it to your headphones via soldering like a headset
haughty girder
taping it to some solid core wire and attaching to headphones like a modmic
and solder is basically like solid core as well
molten lotus
now that I am thinking about it
could probably rip some electronics out of something
solder a lav
and make a modmic
would be an interesting project
haughty girder
yeaaa
molten lotus
though I am not sure how to acquire a bluetooth receiver that only transmits mic audio so I can have it not sound like trash
without programming abilities
haughty girder
I've never used a bt mic before
molten lotus
same
haughty girder
Hmmmm
i should try it too huh.
i have so many pairs of crap Bluetooth buds
I can sacrifice one
haughty girder
is it better than just using 3.5mm and dealing with a 2nd cable
molten lotus
and when you transmit both
haughty girder
Yea
molten lotus
the bandwidth kills itself