audio-tech

[dry stratus]

I type what I hear

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/vSfNLR63qUY

He's now a streamer btw

Started with daytime British tv, then went to CSGO.

[dry stratus]

that first 3 seconds

"these ant too scosh bastess"

wot

sounds like children who can't pronounce most words well yet

skipping Ts, Ks, Rs and similar

[lean grove]

Don't let Scottish people hear that

[dry stratus]

why?

[lean grove]

They'll beat you up

[dry stratus]

I'll beat them back down then

[lean grove]

Con pin vs Scotland

[dry stratus]

someone categorized as disabled vs entire country

[lean grove]

I'll cheer you on from the sidelines.

[dry stratus]

nah, I'll have you join me

[dry stratus]

maybe invite some freedom addicted mericans

[lean grove]

Ill blend in

I have mastered the Glaswegian accent

[dry stratus]

they have no right or wrong after all

so I can just tell them to hunt down

[dry stratus]

Assassin?

[lean grove]

They won't see me sneaking out back

[dry stratus]

I'll just have to castrate you then

[dry stratus]

don't you live in Ukraine?

[lean grove]

I am an merican

[dry stratus]

move to switserland and become rich

[lean grove]

No.

They speak gross German.

[dry stratus]

they have 3 languages iirc

just move to french speaking region

[lean grove]

It gets worse??

[dry stratus]

but

"average decreased, it is now 80k annual only"

[lean grove]

It's one of the better off nations

But it's hard to move there permanently

They're pretty exclusive

[dry stratus]

higher costs ofc, just live across the border for german, french rent or smth
and work for swiss income

lower cost of living with 3x annual

[lean grove]

Work remotely

[dry stratus]

still have to go there every so often

[lean grove]

Actually one of the companies I considered working for is hq'd in Switzerland

[dry stratus]

can't go living in japan and work a swiss job

[dry stratus]

this is something I want to do

and something my father used to do

he should've stayed there, but he moved back to the netherlands

now he only earns like 150k, instead of 350k

with higher taxes

80% of his income to taxes and insurances, lel

[mental mesa]

hye yall, so ive been looking for a budget IEM right. my 2 choices are the jbl t110 and the new qkz ak6 series. which one do you guys think is the best

[outer peak]

audio interface and an amp?

[molten lotus]

what how

that is hyper specific and does not make you right

what you said is like saying cars are better than motorcycles because they can have thirty seats on them

it is true

but is only applicable to like %0.1 of the people looking for a product like that

in your case you and in the other case rich people looking for limousines

[ocean pulsar]

Just because the usecases are limited doesnt mean they don't exist
The statement was that pcie provides no advantage, and I proved that incorrect

[lean grove]

You did. You proved that sometimes for some people pcie makes sense.

[molten lotus]

if we are looking at something x product can do that y product can't if I were to look at every usb option available I am sure I could also prove how superior usb is

[lean grove]

For 99.9% of other people however

[molten lotus]

not to mention the guy who asked the initial question was just looking for a simple 4 channel output

[lean grove]

Not even that

He was looking for headphones, mic, and a line-in

Which his PC already supports

[molten lotus]

ah something pcie is directly bad for

[ocean pulsar]

Also no
Pcie audio cards can have lower latency, making them less unpleasant to use with mics

[lean grove]

I was thinking about that this morning. It is kinda weird how few options there are for USB 5.1 output as line level sources.

Pcie has dozens. At all price points.

Like we found one that's $25

[molten lotus]

at the cost of worse audio

[molten lotus]

because there isn't a need for it really

[lean grove]

That's what I was thinking too

[molten lotus]

anything half decent comes with its own receiver anyways

[lean grove]

Anyone who needs 5.1 is gonna be doing it properly.

[ocean pulsar]

The goal isn't always the highest quality
Sometimes good enough works, and often getting something extremely cheap is all that people can do for a hobby...

[molten lotus]

The goal isn't always the lowest latency

[lean grove]

For mic monitoring as well. How much is a mtrack solo? Or a um2?

[ocean pulsar]

But there's never an advantage to being forced to raise latency

[molten lotus]

50$

[lean grove]

Woof.

[ocean pulsar]

More than these pcie cards lel

[molten lotus]

like 25$ more

[lean grove]

Assuming that we're going with ultra budget

Wait hey actually

[molten lotus]

if you can't afford that and your computer already had every functionality of the pcie card you are going to be buying you may as well mot be buying a pcie card

[ocean pulsar]

$25 can be the difference between Logitech and edifiers

[lean grove]

What connection is mobo audio using

Like onboard

[molten lotus]

those 25$ could have been used to provide food to african children

so true

[molten lotus]

pcie?

[lean grove]

And mic monitoring still sucks with it.

[molten lotus]

oh wait

you mean like that

[ocean pulsar]

You are setting it up wrong

Or your mobo doesn't support jt

[molten lotus]

what is the correct way I am also curious about this

[ocean pulsar]

There's a volume slider in the advanced sound properties

[molten lotus]

I am aware

[ocean pulsar]

Sometimes it's under the gain setting of the mic, called sidetone, sometimes it's under the settings of the headphone output and called mic

[lean grove]

So if onboard can do this

Then pcie cards are really just for people with mega budget motherboards

That also happen to have an open pcie slot

That need some extra audio channels at extremely low latency for some reason

Or for people who need extremely high bandwidth for studio use

[ocean pulsar]

Or for people who ran out of USB/ have broken USB ports
Or people who want their device to fit inside of a single box

Heck technically I'm using pcie for my audio since I'm using the onboard toslink jack, and for digital outs it super doesn't matter what you use

[lean grove]

USB hubs and mobo usb headers seem like a more logical direction than a pcie sound card.

[molten lotus]

I would imagine if every unoccupied usb port on your computer is broken you would have different priorities

[lean grove]

It's delaying the inevitable.

"oh shoot. I'm out of USB ports. Let me free exactly one up"

[ocean pulsar]

Half of the USB ports on my computer are unusable for audio thanks to the x570 bug

[molten lotus]

maybe you should buy a usb hub

[ocean pulsar]

USB hubs cant share data with high data usage devices if you don't want audio crackle

[molten lotus]

for things that aren't audio related

[lean grove]

Can't you buy a USB hub pcie slot

And get. Like. 4 or 8 high speed USB ports

[ocean pulsar]

Those are as expensive as a pcie audio card lel

[lean grove]

$25?

Yeah. About the same

But instead of freeing up exactly one USB port. It expands you to 8+

And they're all 3.0 to boot

But I guess for your 64 channel 192khz 32 but audio you need that expansion slot.

[ocean pulsar]

And the next problem is you still need some device to actually get the audio out

[lean grove]

Lucky you there's plenty of high quality external USB audio devices out there.

[ocean pulsar]

Good luck finding one for the price of a pcie audio card less the price of a USB pcie card

[lean grove]

Apple dongle?

[ocean pulsar]

That's $15 total
That's still $15 more expensive

[lean grove]

Think of it like this.

You're paying $15 more to solve a fundamental problem with your PC. And also getting a better audio solution.

[ocean pulsar]

Ah but are you actually getting better audio?

[lean grove]

Compared to motherboard audio? Yeah. You are.

[ocean pulsar]

Ah but it's not motherboard audio

And you aren't using the dongle in a standard USB port

[lean grove]

Damn. We're gonna have to bump our budget to $20. Need an adapter

We're gonna have to skip lunch and pull an extra shift at the asbestos factory

[ocean pulsar]

The point is check reviews of the pcie card
Oh wait they don't exist because of the stigma

[lean grove]

Check reviews of the m50x

Check reviews of razer tiamat

Check reviews for my 100% natural asbestos snow

[ocean pulsar]

Well asbestos is in fact 100% natural lel

Seems kinda redundant

[lean grove]

(that's the joke)

We can agree that for some people, a pcie care will be a better option.

But I think for most people it's really unnecessary.

[ocean pulsar]

Yep and I 100% agree

[molten lotus]

wow this was a very fruitful discussion

glad we established that

[lean grove]

Klaus wanna buy a goofy ass akg k1000

[molten lotus]

for 100$ sure

[lean grove]

Add an extra zero and we got a deal

[molten lotus]

alright 0100$

[lean grove]

🤯

Outsmarted again

[molten lotus]

Fr who tf would buy a half broken k1k for 1k

Also aura repaired a few people's k1k

Maybe ask him

[lean grove]

He'd have to have a spare BH left driver laying around.

[molten lotus]

what is exactly wrong

[lean grove]

Which, of all the people in the world, he'd be the one to have

But even that I don't wanna put any more money in these.

[lean grove]

Left driver is from a BL k1k

Right driver is BH

[molten lotus]

tf is bl and bh k1k

[lean grove]

Bass heavy and bass light

Bass heavy was earlier revision. But due to rattling issues they reduce the bass.

They also made a lot of other changes to make them more consistent/durable

[molten lotus]

Why don't you buy another broken k1k

couldn't be that expensive

[lean grove]

Seems like a lot of work.

Id rather take a $300 loss than spend $300 repairing them.

The right driver still has issues. And the headphone itself I don't think is for me.

[molten lotus]

Try selling them to conpin

He gets paid by the government to be dumb couldn't find a better buyer

[lean grove]

I'll sell them on eBay saying they've been restored by a third party

Which third party? Who knows

[tame jay]

I've had my AKG 361 BT headphones for a year now and ever since I've had them, they keep disconnecting.

As per the warranty I am sending them back for a full refund. Can anyone suggest any bluetooth headphones for £100?

[normal cove]

Any reccs for bluetooth headphones under 300? Rn i was thinking of thr Sennheiser Momentum 4

[tame jay]

are these good? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-WH-XB910N-Cancelling-Wireless-Headphones-Black/dp/B09FKG4PP3/ref=asc_df_B09FKG4PP3/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=547555543373&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2290893520327758864&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9050382&hvtargid=pla-1435694041330&psc=1&th=1&psc=1

[unique wind]

no

[tame jay]

have you got any recommendations for bluetooth headphones?

[normal cove]

I heard space QC45 are good

[tame jay]

these? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soundcore-Cancelling-Headphones-Bluetooth-Traveling-Black/dp/B0B5VHRX7F/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2VKMCBDHSWMZB&keywords=space+QC45&qid=1674587363&sprefix=space+qc45+%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-1

[normal cove]

Yuh

[cinder flax]

Not the QC45 from Bose?

[normal cove]

Anyways, thoughts on Momentum 4s or anything better at the price of 300? I was thinking of the XM5s as similar prices but i think sennheiser ones are better

[normal cove]

Thats above his budget

[cinder flax]

QC45 =/= Q45. It's unfortunate naming, but Bose got there first with the QC-Line of headphones...

[tame jay]

budget is around £100

i really like the akg 361 bt but on every device i try, they disconnect after about 15 minutes of playtime

[cinder flax]

Sounds like it could be faulty tbh. Did anyone else report similar problems with their units?

[tame jay]

No. However, AKG told me to send them back after the trouble shooting didnt work

and so amazon are going to refund me when I send them back tmr

its happened for a year now and im tired of it tbh

just need to get some new ones

[cinder flax]

Understandable...

[leaden cloak]

No those are terrible don’t get those

[tame jay]

i though it was my laptop, but then it started to happen on my phone and then on my new pc

[tame jay]

What would you recommend?

[leaden cloak]

AKG N700NC M2

[tame jay]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-GP-N700HAHCGAA-N700NCM2-Wireless-Black/dp/B07YXRFRQW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33L7JZL29EPE2&keywords=AKG+N700NC+M2&qid=1674587684&sprefix=akg+n700nc+m2+%2Caps%2C63&sr=8-3

these?

[molten lotus]

akg n700nc

[leaden cloak]

That’s kind of scummy…they are definitely trying to mislead people into buying the Q45

[molten lotus]

yeah get these

[leaden cloak]

Yeah those

[tame jay]

I hope I dont get the disconnecting issue again

i shouldn't do anyway

think its just a faulty headphone

anyone heard of these?

[leaden cloak]

I haven’t

[molten lotus]

why would we

[cinder flax]

I believe the Q45 were first on the market, but it was to be expected that Bose at some point was going to update their QC-Line of headphones and was gonna name the next one QC45 (which have since been released) QC stands for Quiet Comfort btw, so it's more unfortunate for people who abbreviate things then actually any product name collision...

[molten lotus]

there are like ten thousand different sellers who sell akg n700nc

[tame jay]

no idea. last time i brought something off of amazon from someone that wasn't amazon, I never received the product 😂

[molten lotus]

out of thousands why would we know that single one that would be supplying you

[tame jay]

alright

[leaden cloak]

I have the n700 and they dont have a disconnect issue in my experience. So yeah I think you’ll be fine

[tame jay]

so I hsould go for them?

[molten lotus]

go for it

[tame jay]

they are 1p under budget which is good

[leaden cloak]

Yeah that is unfortunate too

[leaden cloak]

If you can yeah

[tame jay]

might wait as they fluctuate quite a bit

[coral tiger]

Yes the audio interface becomes your "DAC" then grab an amp like (current on sale) https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33304
Then a cable like https://a.co/d/aEL9oOr

Sounds just as good as a Schitt stack.

Just use the outputs on the back, don't try to double amp it by going from the headphone jack to the amp.

[normal cove]

So ehh any reccs for 300?

[molten lotus]

rtx 3060ti

[normal cove]

This is audio sir 😹

I meant bluetooth headphones ofc

[molten lotus]

I can count you 15 different audio devices you can buy for 300$ if you want

the chat name doesn't narrow it down much

[normal cove]

All of them as good?

I mean just spew them out if u want to ig

[molten lotus]

as in headphones/speakers/amplifiers/dacs/interfaces/mixers etc

well

n700nc mk2

[normal cove]

Yeah understandable

[molten lotus]

you wont get a lot better than that for bluetooth headphones

[normal cove]

I dont even think i can buy that in uk

No site links

[molten lotus]

the guy above you literally posted a link to it from amazon uk

[molten lotus]

.

[normal cove]

Thats not mk2

[molten lotus]

m2

mk2

same thing

[normal cove]

Oh right

Thats a whole 150 cheaper

Are u sure theres no sound quality diff at all

[molten lotus]

150 cheaper than what

[normal cove]

Senneheiser momentum 4

[molten lotus]

momentum is a meme

the entire lineup

[normal cove]

U say they are bad?

[molten lotus]

yes

[normal cove]

So whats good for the 300 price range then 😭

[molten lotus]

n700nc mk2

[normal cove]

Bro thats like 150 cheaper bro

[molten lotus]

than what

[normal cove]

Surely it cant be better than m4s

[normal cove]

Than m4s duhh

M4 is 300

[leaden cloak]

What is M4

[normal cove]

Momentum 4

[leaden cloak]

That’s terrible

[molten lotus]

told him the same thing

[leaden cloak]

All wireless headphones are bad sound quality wise. Bose and AKG make the best ones and they don’t even have the best sound quality either

[lean grove]

Have you considered a Bluetooth DAC/Amp and then some iems or passive headphones?

[normal cove]

How come all the reviews prefer m4s then?

[leaden cloak]

If you wanna go expensive and spend all your money the best I can suggest is the Bose Quiet Comfort 45

[molten lotus]

if you want to listen to reviews then do so

[leaden cloak]

Because they don’t know what they are talking about

[molten lotus]

it's a bad headphone and we are saying it

[normal cove]

lmfao

[molten lotus]

if you do not believe us feel free to follow them instead

[normal cove]

QC45 hm?

[leaden cloak]

Yeah those are good too if you really want to spend 300

[normal cove]

Yeah i was given a budget and i need to spend around that much

[molten lotus]

akg better

why

[leaden cloak]

Why?

[normal cove]

Cuz thats what the person wants

He dont want cheaper idk

[leaden cloak]

I can think of a lot of things I’d want for $150

[molten lotus]

the only think qc45 does better than n700nc mk2 do is anc and breaking fast

[leaden cloak]

Alright bose it is then

[molten lotus]

my friend's qc45 died three times

in two years

[normal cove]

anc is a factor isnt it

[molten lotus]

now the warranty is gone so bose wont replace it anymore

[normal cove]

U wouldnt want bad anc

[molten lotus]

the anc also breaks very often

the mics easily get dirt in them

[normal cove]

Damn this is giving me 2nd doubts now

So m4s are terrible and qc45 are good for the very expensive range and n700nc mk2 are what u guys recc

[molten lotus]

qc45 are only better than n700nc m2 for anc

[normal cove]

Yeah kinda need better anc

[molten lotus]

it isn't a big difference

first is n700nc m2

second is qc45

qc45 has better bass prevention which imo is more important

but akg cancels highs better

[leaden cloak]

Actually in real life bose has a lot better anc to me. I have compared both of them

[unique wind]

[molten lotus]

like I said

it only cancels bass more

[unique wind]

have you used them

[molten lotus]

yes

I too think qc45 has better anc since bass disrupts listening more

[leaden cloak]

Probably why I think they are better then

[molten lotus]

yeah

lower freq noises are usually more annoying

[unique wind]

my dads anc headphones only cancel like 300hz and below

[molten lotus]

but considering the sound quality between the two and the price difference and the short lifespan of qc45 I would definitely not recommend them

[unique wind]

totally blocks out air conditioners and fans and other shit though

[dry stratus]

I would take the AKG over the QC unless I regularly use them in busy places

[tame jay]

Hi.
I can't get those ones because if I buy them from that seller and there is an issue it is unlikely I will be able to claim the 2 year warranty.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soundcore-Cancelling-Headphones-Multiple-Bluetooth-Black/dp/B08HMWZBXC?crid=HF1JNG16HUVH&keywords=Anker+Soundcore+Life+Q30&qid=1646424266&sprefix=anker+soundcore+life+q30+,aps,171&sr=8-3&linkCode=sl1&tag=5best09-21&linkId=f1420f58aed1ec23fae36ae9251b2429&language=en_GB&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
What are these like? I was told that they are similar to the AKG 361

[shell tinsel]

Question, I'm working on cable management for my set up, what would be the best way to extend my usb c from my audio interface to the storage closet where I keep my computer? Trying to keep my computer and other loud components away from my booth.

As well as my midi keyboard (utilizes usb-b to usb-a)

[leaden cloak]

They’re basically just bass. You lose out on all the other frequencies. So all you hear is *BWWWAAAAAHHH basically

[shell tinsel]

Agreed

[tame jay]

Okay. Do you know of anything else?

Because I can’t really get hold of those other ones you mentioned

[leaden cloak]

Unfortunately what I recommended is the best but if you are skeptical then go with whatever you can afford then

[shell tinsel]

If you're not going for Uber audiophile setups, just go on Sweetwater and look up some on/in ear monitors!

[leaden cloak]

They want Bluetooth over ears

[shell tinsel]

Ah

There are Bluetooth options as well, also monitors with Bluetooth transceivers

[lean grove]

Kali has a Bluetooth doohickey

[icy valley]

Which one do I keep?

[tame jay]

With Amazon, even if you buy from them and it’s a different seller, do they cover the two year AKG warranty

[leaden cloak]

It’s AKG’s responsibility not the seller or Amazon so they should help you out

[tame jay]

I emailed them about the 361s and they said to contact the seller

[molten lotus]

contact amazon

[molten lotus]

they mediate for you

[shell tinsel]

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M4AEBTBk--sennheiser-m4aebt-momentum-4-wireless-headphones-black

I recommend these by the eay

Used to have a pair

[molten lotus]

I also recommend them

[leaden cloak]

They ain’t good either

[tame jay]

fuck 350 😂

[molten lotus]

as in recommending avoiding them

[tame jay]

So let’s say I get a problem like I did for my 361s and I want to make a return however I can’t contact the seller on Amazon, what happens then?

[shell tinsel]

They worked for what I needed them for, I use shure IEMs rn

[shell tinsel]

You could possibly make a clam with Amazon support

[tame jay]

But AKG couldn’t do anything?

[leaden cloak]

You could also tell them you didn’t buy them from a seller

[molten lotus]

because it isn't their responsibility?

[molten lotus]

you are supposed to contact amazon

you didn't buy directly from the seller

[shell tinsel]

If you have the budget, these are my daily drivers right now https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/P3TRA215CL-G20--shure-p3tra215cl-wireless-in-ear-monitor-system-g20-band

[molten lotus]

why would you need that

[gentle quiver]

hey anyone in here got a big brain?

[tame jay]

I’ve got the refund for the 361s as I did buy from Amazon and their return policies are good but the MK2s I’m looking at are sold by a market place seller. So what I’m asking is that does anyone know if I wanted to make a return if there was an issue on the 2 year warranty, what happens if I can’t contact the seller on Amazon

[leaden cloak]

Amazon will help you anyways. They offered to return and refund something I bought from a seller

[shell tinsel]

I use them at home in the studio, and take them out to gigs

[leaden cloak]

At least, their assistant bot did

[molten lotus]

that doesn't happen

if the seller doesn't respond amazon covers for you and sues the seller

closes or puts penalties on their store

[lean grove]

Someone eventually has to get the Stax Bluetooth headphones

[tame jay]

Thanks

[molten lotus]

you can

its just a matter of how many adapters you are willing to use

[shell tinsel]

I heard about them? Are they good?

[molten lotus]

some

[lean grove]

They look well tuned

[shell tinsel]

Btw I love the username lol

[lean grove]

But that's all I got to go off of

[molten lotus]

thanks

[lean grove]

And wdym adapters

[molten lotus]

they aren't for everyone

[molten lotus]

there are battery powered energizers

hook them up to a bt receiver and bluetooth stax

[shell tinsel]

Depending on what you are also listening on, you might just want to invest in a cheap multi channel eq for your output channel and tweak it from there

[molten lotus]

multi channel eq?

[shell tinsel]

Yeah

[lean grove]

Oh.

No Klaus these are planars

[molten lotus]

what

this what comes to both of your statement

[shell tinsel]

Like either a smaller eq board or a full on rackmount one if you wanna spend money

[lean grove]

https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-STAX-S3-Snapdragon-Audiophiles/dp/B09T9MTJNH

[molten lotus]

why would I invest in an analog eq when I can do it digitally which does it better?

[molten lotus]

bro

energizer

not headphones

[shell tinsel]

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FBQ1502HD--behringer-ultragraph-pro-fbq1502hd-15-band-stereo-graphic-eq-with-fbq-feedback-detection like this

[molten lotus]

yeah but why would I use an analog eq when digital does it more precise and better

I have a fuck ton of headroom

https://www.minidisc.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/94920fdb57ff33e73715560257bffe02/4/1/41hw9fr9h0l.jpg

@lean grove

[lean grove]

Oh yeah that

Get a q5k and then you can be the most annoying person on the plane

[shell tinsel]

I'm just giving suggestions, I like using digital effects, but having a programmable analog interface is great

[molten lotus]

what does it do better

[lean grove]

Analog is pretty limiting. It's fun to use actual dials, but the different between a parametric EQ and a x band equalizer is the same different between a laser cutter and some scissors.

[molten lotus]

I know that it is useful in a studio enviorment where you got a big ass mixing desk for boosting stuff rather than cutting frequencies

but apart from the cool™️ I don't know an actual use for an analog eq at this point either

[lean grove]

Hold on let me come up with 5-10 extremely specific examples that are edge cases at best

[molten lotus]

imagine if I had a pcie sound card but it outputted 2 megawatts that needed the 20kohm input of an analog eq to attenuate it for headphones

and in my country its illegal to own any other audio gear apart from analog eqs outside of your computer case

[lean grove]

I think Beringer does have a digital EQ thingy somewhere

Dexi likes it

[molten lotus]

a physical digital eq?

[lean grove]

The nx3000d

It's meant for subs

[molten lotus]

what is the point of this thing

[lean grove]

For subwoofers

[molten lotus]

why digital

there is just so many things you can do

what excuses this thing to exist

[lean grove]

You can use it for correcting your subwooder

[molten lotus]

so can analog eq

except it costs like 100$

[shell tinsel]

It's mostly just a comfort thing and being able to tweak sliders and knobs, but most analog interfaces are programmable and save/load presets the same way you would use a digital one. And have on board memory banks

[molten lotus]

presets?

[shell tinsel]

Preset settings

[molten lotus]

yeah what sort

[shell tinsel]

I'm not saying go with it or avoid it, I'm just saying it's an option

[molten lotus]

yeah I am just curious

that's why I am asking

[shell tinsel]

Fader settings, like increasing or decreasing db at certain frequencies

We can talk more if you dm me

i'll be back in like 10, gotta shower before work

[gentle quiver]

can someone help with my very troubling audio situation in tech support please

[molten lotus]

well what is your issues

[gentle quiver]

easier to just see in tech support you can also see what ive tried

[tame jay]

Yeah I can’t get hold of the AKG mk2s
What about Sennheiser HD 450BT Wireless Headphones, with active noise cancellation, Black https://amzn.eu/d/9ECmEmU

[shell tinsel]

the 450bts are ok. my opinion is that you can have one or the other. (without breaking the bank) when it comes to audio quality and features like bluetooth and noise cancellation (especially active noise cancellation)

[molten lotus]

they are pretty bad

closed back senns

[stuck portal]

Anyone else here using Logic on a M1? The I've been having constant plugin "Recover" pop ups

[lone dust]

Hi guys, do you know a usb sized speaker which can stay into my laptop when I put it into a laptop case?

[stuck portal]

Hmm, no, but what is the scope? because this speaker would have the volume of a earbud.

WHy don't you just get some small speakers and glue it to the back of the laptop? or just make a custom backpack with speakers already attached to them so that way you just plug them in

[outer peak]

Gotcha

[leaden cloak]

Doesn’t your laptop have built in speakers?

[halcyon acorn]

I'm lazy so I'm going to see if you can just suggest something for me. I've had a set of Swan M200MKII's for over a decade (stereo active monitors) and last year the internal amp gave up the ghost. I love these speakers so I removed the amp and wired the side that had it for passive input and retained the crossover. Essentially both sides are now just passive speakers.

So. I need a desktop amp that would suit them without going overboard. I know PartsExpress has what I need, just not sure which one. I don't need multiple inputs, I don't need bluetooth, just a simple line in from my DAC will suffice and stereo speaker outs.

The specs on the speakers when they had the internal amplifier are as follows:

2-way / 4.Order active bass reflex system
Frequency Response: 56Hz-20kHz +/-3dB
Efficiency ( 2.83V/m ): 87dB
Nominal Impedance: 5 Ohm
Tweeter: Swans 25mm doped silk
Bass/Mid: Swans 5" HighEnd-Midwoofer
Amplification: 2x35 W/RMS
THD: <0.06% (8 Ohm, 1 KHz, 10W)
Input Sensitivity: 650mV/22KOhm

Suggestions?

Something like this I think would be fine. https://www.parts-express.com/FX-Audio-FX-502A-PRO-Hi-Fi-Stereo-Amplifier-50-WPC-Black-230-279?quantity=1

And not in stock, figures.

[lean grove]

good on you for upcycling your speakers

and, i mean, the one you listed is pretty functional

but you're gonna be getting what you pay for

the allo volt d+ is a really good option

[solid oasis]

you can make them sound better by using good equalization settings:)

[halcyon acorn]

I'm interested. Looks like its available too which is a plus. (certainly looks cooler, I'll give it that)

[gleaming eagle]

Hi

Can someone recommend a dongle dac

[lean grove]

whats wrong with the apple dongle

[crimson remnant]

I made a joke about audio club in build a PC and didn't even realize we had a whole channel for audio heads here. Now I can ask noob questions legitimately here.

Recommendations for wired and wireless headphones. I travel for work and so would need to plug in and unplug quite often which is why I'm considering the wireless route.

[lean grove]

do you have a budget in mind and what are you gonna be using them for

[crimson remnant]

Travel for work, gaming, chat, movies. Not tied to a particular budget. Everyone always says their equipment is the best though.

[lean grove]

sennheiser HD560s is the most common recommendation. they're wired and just headphones, so no mic

they're also open back so noisy environments will be an issue with them

[crimson remnant]

I'll probably just buy a noise cancelling set that can Bluetooth for my flights. I have the Sony wf-1000xm4's now for when I travel but I don't want to use those for my laptop. I was thinking of getting something dedicated for that.

[gentle quiver]

what could cause any mic not to work systemwide...? but works fine in windows 10 troubleshooter?

have latest driver (reinstalled it) and made sure that apps allowed mic to be used

[molten lotus]

make sure the apps are allowed to use the mic

make yourself even surer

try restarting your pc after allowing apps to use it

[gentle quiver]

i did make sure yesterday and restarted pc for windows update...

[molten lotus]

no idea then

[halcyon mauve]

Is there a budget microphone with a boomarm for 60 AUD?

[lone dust]

Cause I don't think my dad wants go glue anything to his computer. He's got a laptop of which the CPU fan is loud and the speakers aren't that great. I know there are speakers that connect to the USB-C port of your phone that are louder than his speakers. That's why I wonder if there's something like it with USB-A

[cobalt sparrow]

I think the fifine t669 with boom kit is ur best bet

[cobalt sparrow]

I think #1027757333117415424 would be a better channel

[gentle quiver]

..i posted there yesterday and it didnt help

[molten lotus]

you won't get anything better than laptop speakers if you want something on your computer

get a Bluetooth speaker or something

[lone dust]

Yeah, but I can't ask my dad to connect speakers every time he wants to see something on his laptop. Hes 70+

[stuck portal]

Dunno about your specifics, but my moms is 70 and she does far more than that. I guess some older folks age better than others.
But yes, Klaus is right. If you need speakers on your laptop, I'd suggest you get him either plugin headphones or plugin speakers that are fixed in a location where he usually uses his laptop (that is not a bad thing, helps keeping the house organised if they live on their own)

You could also get him one of those bluetooth portable speakers, if he needs to move around, is lighter than the laptop

he just needs to remember to charge the thing

[stuck portal]

Just read this.... Yes, get him some plugin speakers or headphones

those ones that connect with an aux cable and not usb, since those are more likely to use a battery and therefore need charging at some point

[stuck portal]

Also, consider doing a fresh reinstall, if its just for light browsing, the fans should not be getting this loud, if he is an hot environment, than you should let him know that older people are at a higher risk for cause of heat stroke anyways. My mom lives in Brazil, she is 70, and I have to constantly remind her to use the AC, there are plenty of older folks that pass away due to heat stroke

[stuck portal]

seems like overkil if you already have those cans, I got them and I can tell you that more often than not, I'm bringing them rather than the other ones I got

[dry stratus]

Those ain’t cans

[crimson remnant]

They're in ear. I like them a lot but having them in ear for more than 3 or 4 hours makes my ears slightly sore. If I'm flying, I tend to leave them in during a layover as well. Was considering over the ear noise cancelling to help with that.

[stuck portal]

Oh i thought you were talking about the Wh-1000m5x or whatever their stupid name is

The over ear ones

Yeah.... Just bear in mind, that when plugged in, the mic won't work but the noise cancelling will

IF you were to get these ones

I'd say, for a varied use case, you want to take a really thought out look at your connectivity requirements for each use case

For instance, if you're at a work laptop, and say they won't allow bluetooth due to whatever security reasons, then your only option is wired, are you going to be on conference calls? than you will need something that can do all, and noise cancelling well

[crimson remnant]

Usually means I have them in ear for 8 hours. Love them for work, in ear is not as cumbersome as a full ote set. Could probably use whatever ote set I have to just connect to the laptop as well. Prevent having two full ote sets and my in ears.

[stuck portal]

oh dude, the OTE version of yours is suuuuper light and not uncomfortable at all

[crimson remnant]

Yeah, that's the problem. I have all the use issues. Lol.

[stuck portal]

lol

What you could do as well is just alternate between each type of headphone

If you get tired of the OTE go for the INE

I'm bald btw, so for me, the sony's WHs don't get tiresome but the constant contact of them against my scalp does cause some irritation after 6+ hours

[crimson remnant]

Well I have a big head. And I shave my head. I'm in the same boat when I have a gaming headset on for that amount of time.

[tame jay]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50X-Monitor-Professional-Headphones/dp/B09BYFHL25/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2AIOOXECG6UUT&keywords=Audio-Technica%2BATH-M50x%2Bbt&qid=1674668394&s=musical-instruments&sprefix=audio-technica%2Bath-m50x%2Bbt%2Cmi%2C58&sr=1-2&th=1

what are tehse like?

[molten lotus]

bad

[lean grove]

Very bad

[tame jay]

okay

[primal fulcrum]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-WH-XB910N-Cancelling-Wireless-Headphones-Black/dp/B09FKG4PP3/

Best Headphones

[primal fulcrum]

Yes, best wireless headphones there is.
XB950 was the former king of headphones, but they are not sold any longer.

Everybody in #audio-tech who says otherwise is Clueless.

[ebon flint]

ok so i'm trying to use an AUX cable through line in to get audio from my nintendo switch to my pc directly
good news: it works
bad news: there's a lot of static, but i don't know if a ground loop would suffice

i don't have a DAC or something fancy, and i am not an audophile enough to care about getting one, but I do want to get rid of the static

maybe it has another name in english, but this is the thing that I was refering to

[tame jay]

im going for them now

just sceptical because it is from a market place seller.

[primal fulcrum]

Noice, XB950AP & BT was the most fun sound I heard.

[tame jay]

should i go for the whxb910n

or the akg ones

[primal fulcrum]

Oh, I would only buy stuff from Amazon lul

Can't you change seller?

[tame jay]

none avaiable

hang on

im confused

sorry

Which headphones are you saying I should go for?

[primal fulcrum]

Well, I can't give opinion, I want music to sound good/enjoyable.
Not "correct" for mixing.

I'ma bass head.

[tame jay]

So you say to go for Sony WH-XB910N yes?

[primal fulcrum]

Me personally, yes. Have the 1000XM3 & is a bit dissapointed.

XB950BT sounded better.

XB950N1 & Then XB900 & then XB910 is the replacement

[primal fulcrum]

If you want enjoyable sound, yes. imo.

[unique wind]

xb910n

[primal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-this-graph-nickelback-gif-12683147

Graph tells nothing.

[lean grove]

I don't think a ground loop isolator would fix your issue. It's more likely that there's just random electrical noise either coming out of your switch or made by your line-in on your computer.

[ebon flint]

i suppose it's still worth a shot

[lean grove]

🤷

[lean grove]

Only if you don't know how to read them.

[ebon flint]

if kinda bad at anything over 20% volume, and i doubt it's the line in, considering both front panel and back panel have the same buzzing issue

[lean grove]

And lordy that is a lot of bass.

[ebon flint]

iirc the switch's audio card is not good, but it can't be this bad

[lean grove]

You'd be surprised

[primal fulcrum]

I think it's less bass than XB950BT with bass-boost function on, No?

Does the graph even tell if the bass boost function was enabled on random XB950BT graph?

It was like wearing a subwoofer

As the DJ intended

[lean grove]

Obviously if you have two graphs and one has more bass you can say that one has the bass button enabled

Otherwise you'd hope the person who publishes the data says whether or not

[primal fulcrum]

Aight

It's just that in-ears can have the same curve "graph" as XB910 above for example no?

[lean grove]

In theory.

[primal fulcrum]

That does not mean it will give the same experience of the song

Head will not shake.

Bass is supposed to be felt

[lean grove]

And now you have come to the conclusion that personal experience is necessary to determine how data translates to real life.

[primal fulcrum]

True & real

1000XM3 was too tight for me.
Also the fact LDAC gets disabled if you touch the equalizer is a bit annoying.

[lean grove]

A fellow melon head

[tame jay]

Okay. I’m being dragged towards the Sonys as they are being sold by Amazon and not a marketplace seller so if I needed to use the warranty, it would be easier.

The Sonys also seem to have better features

Some say the AKGs sound better. Some disagree.
Idk what I should do

[lean grove]

Follow your heart.

[tame jay]

Is there much in them in regards to audio quality?

This all started after I had to send my AKG 361s back.

[primal fulcrum]

It is 2 different school of heart.
Bassheads top tier headphones list looks completly different
Than "Purist" headphones tier list.

[tame jay]

hm.
I will use it for gaming and music (not heavy music though)

[lean grove]

Well. I personally am sketched out about the massive bass bleeding into 200 and 300hz. And the wacky treble.

So. Its not well tuned.

[tame jay]

Is that ok the Sonys or the AKGs

[lean grove]

That bass hump in the sonys might make some voices, especially deep voices, hard to understand sometimes

[tame jay]

Hm

[lean grove]

And the treble it has might become sibilant and annoying.

The akgs are tuned to consumer preferences. So they'll still have enough bass and they'll sound neutral to you.

[primal fulcrum]

Neutral = Bad for me.

[tame jay]

Right.

So it’s all preference then?

[primal fulcrum]

Yes

[lean grove]

No

Well. Yeah

But do you know what your preference is

[tame jay]

Not really as I’m new to all this

[primal fulcrum]

Don't you have physical stores you can go listen to?

[tame jay]

I just want some good sounding, Bluetooth headphones that are reliable and around £150

[lean grove]

When I say tuned to consumer preferences, I mean that they're tuned to be enjoyable to the most amount of people.

[tame jay]

Not in the uk

It’s crap for stores like that

[lean grove]

It is statistically more probable for you to enjoy the akgs more

[primal fulcrum]

I would say that is what is true for Sonys XB9XX series as well.

[tame jay]

my gut goes with the Sonys as I’ve tried my luck with AKG + I’d much rather buy from Amazon then a market place seller (I can’t get them anywhere else)

In terms of the audio quality, does the Sony application allow you to adjust the bass?

Or the EQ or smth

[primal fulcrum]

Yes, there is an EQ.

And pretty sure LDAC does not get disabled with newer versions, when you use built in eq.

I just hate using eq.

nocebo feeling of the sound gets terrible

[tame jay]

Okay so essentially I need to decide myself.

[lean grove]

Most eq is kinda terrible anyways

You want the sonys, get the sonys

[tame jay]

It’s more because it’s sold by Amazon

[primal fulcrum]

If you already tried AKG & was un-happy,
Go for the Sony imo.

[tame jay]

Okay.

[primal fulcrum]

Sony makes good stuff.

[lean grove]

But in response to this. This is not true.

[unique wind]

if you like bass so much then you should use in ear monitors with foam eartips

[lean grove]

The Harman curve is literally made by surveys and testing. The sonys look like they're just shoehorning as much bass as they can reasonably fit, and then boosting the treble to compensate

[primal fulcrum]

1 in 20 reviews does not like Sony XB-series. Correct
Those 5% people don't like fun sounding headphones.

[lean grove]

Which some people like.

[tame jay]

Have you got these headphones?

[lean grove]

If a product shows up not broken, it will get 5 stars by 80% of Amazon reviewers.

Automatically

[primal fulcrum]

As much bass they can make the drivers produce without distorting the rest of the music.

Not the same thing as putting Max bass & minimum high frequencys on random headphone.

[unique wind]

it is the same

[primal fulcrum]

Disagree.

[unique wind]

they have a humongous mid-high bass boost

completely destroys clarity

if it was just boosted from 20-80hz then it’d be fine

[primal fulcrum]

Negative. Had XB500 & XB950AP & XB950BT.
Loved the sound of all those. More than 1000XM3(current headphones).

[molten lotus]

you wouldn't want to use the sony app for eq

[primal fulcrum]

So can't really tell for sure, but their XB over-ear headphones have good track record for me.

[molten lotus]

just stick to wavelet

[molten lotus]

for low budget yes

but an iem only applies pressure to your ear canal

headphones apply pressure to however much of your head they cover

and speakers apply it to your entire body

[unique wind]

you’re saying this like i don’t know this

[molten lotus]

you recommended foam tips

[lean grove]

Have you owned any studio headphones

[primal fulcrum]

I don't really think Koss Pro4aa Titanium counts.
Those were horrible tho.

[tame jay]

So in short.

If I don’t care about lots of bass, go with Sony
If I don’t want the heavy bass, go with AKG.

If I don’t want to go AKG after the 361s, go with Sony.

The only thing pulling me away from the AKG headphones is that it is a marketplace seller

[molten lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/boisestate-thisisresearch-stem-women-in-stem-science-gif-12502122

studio headphones doing their best to be globally trash

literally almost no good headphones are marketed for studio

[unique wind]

🦍

[lean grove]

They are horrible yes.

[unique wind]

i wish i could find a pair of nht super zero speakers for a reasonable price

they’re like $120/ea on amazon which is ridiculous

they sold for half that at original retail

i guess they raised the official price on the nht site as well

so i’m never finding one for cheap again

hold on

1994 manufactured pair for $120

[lone dust]

@stuck portal
What about something like this. Only with USB for extra power?

[primal fulcrum]

Also had Denon AH-D1100 once also

All the basses

[primal fulcrum]

hair dryer?

[lone dust]

Maybe someone else can help me who's online right now. My dad's laptops CPU fan is loud and the built-in speaker isn't. It went to the admin and he said he could do nothing about it as the laptop is already a few years old. Is there a speaker like the one shown above here (maybe with USB for extra power) which can stay into the laptop if you put it into the case or which is easy to setup for my 70+ dad who is a bit of a computer illiterate

Btw, a built in phone speaker is louder than his laptop

[primal fulcrum]

Have you tried activating "improved sound quality" option? idk what its called in English, my ThinkPads speakers sounds much better/clearer/"louder" when I have it activated?

[primal fulcrum]

@lone dust

[lone dust]

Not sure but that hz bar is at its loudest

I assume its on

[primal fulcrum]

Aight, it was randomly disabled once for me.
Googled my way to that option I think.
Now it's back to normal loudness enough again.

[lone dust]

Yeah, as far as I've seen. It's already at It's loudest. That's why I'm searching for an external speaker

[primal fulcrum]

okok, I'm just saying

100% with it off/disabled is too low for me

[lone dust]

Np

[primal fulcrum]

100% with it enabled on is too loud.

[lone dust]

What's my best other option if it is on?

[primal fulcrum]

Headphones

[lone dust]

I sometimes want to hear what's on the computer aswell

[primal fulcrum]

If it doesnt work enabling that option, maybe some gg ez plug-in-play junk like this? :clueless
https://www.amazon.nl/Mini-USB-luidspreker-Stereo-computerluidspreker-computer-notebook/dp/B09NBPWXSN

[primal fulcrum]

" #1 op bestsellerlijst in Pc-luidsprekers " -20 Euro @lone dust

[lone dust]

That option isn't there

[primal fulcrum]

"Step-4: Now, select the Enhancements tab and check the Loudness Equalization box."

Is there an enchancement tab? @lone dust

Otherwise, maybe there is some 3rd party app that can force the speaker to go louder?
Like VLC boosts volume "up to 200%" for movies xd

[lone dust]

This used to be disabled. Just unchecked the upper left box but nothing changed

[primal fulcrum]

there it is ig

[primal fulcrum]

Check Loudness Equalization from the list and click OK?

(I don't speak dutch)

[lone dust]

Just turned it on. A bit louder but not much

[primal fulcrum]

Aight, try downloading VLC Media Player maybe.
When playing a video file, & scrolling volume to 200% with mouse wheel

Does it become loud enough?

[lone dust]

Does that work for browser volume aswell?

[primal fulcrum]

If so, maybe some third party app(idk) can make everything louder?

[primal fulcrum]

Bet there is some add-on that if that works(?) can do it as well

Never tried

Just know VLC support boosing volume over what speakers supposed to do.

[lone dust]

So I'll have to have a look at the chrome store if I use Chrome

[primal fulcrum]

Gl hf!

3:rd option try something cheap usb speaker, like the 20 euro best seller I linked? hehe @lone dust

[lone dust]

Yeah, I've seen it. It's just that I want to find something my das will actually plug in every time he uses his pc. Maybe a leave in speaker?

[primal fulcrum]

Hehe, I don't understand what you mean.
Sure any speaker you can find in the attic should work?

https://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

If you wanna try if vlc can make it loud enough

[haughty girder]

equalizerAPO will do

[lone dust]

Haha, got it. Just installed a chrome extention. Worked great only a little to much bass

[leaden cloak]

What about a portable Bluetooth speaker? Most have an audio jack or at the very least are easy to connect

[primal fulcrum]

noice

[lone dust]

Is there something like the Logitech Z305 that is currently available?

I mean an updated version of this

[haughty girder]

it's called don't bother

[lean grove]

The product you're looking for is gonna be really hard to find. I suggest you just find a small USB powered speaker or something Bluetooth.

[molten lotus]

even if you do find it, it will likely not be better than the pc speakers

[lean grove]

Well the problem is that the PC speakers can't be heard over the fan

[mental mesa]

hye guys, I've been looking for a budget IEM to replace my broken qkz ak6. Im considering the jbl t110 or the qkz ak6 pro. I also considered the jbl c150si. WhIch one should I choose or is there any other recommendation

[zenith torrent]

hey all i have a really dumb question what are those 3.5 mm cables called with the third line in them for the microphone

[ocean pulsar]

4 pole @zenith torrent

[molten lotus]

Windows Key + Shift + S

[meager ridge]

Whats a good budget gaming headset under 40 dollars that has a good (doesn’t have to be great) balance of noise cancellation, quality mic pickup and quietness?

If that doesn’t really exist is there one that just balances the quality of the mic pickup and the quietness of the headphones?

[bitter hollow]

what is quietness

[halcyon mauve]

Is there a budget 80$ AUD headset with a mic?

[ripe lantern]

Whats a decent mic with good noise suppression, planning on doing gaming content and I will get a gaming laptop which will make things loud in the room, I also get a lot of background noise. What would be an ideal but not too pricy option?

[lean grove]

If you have an Nvidia GPU you can use something cheap like a fifine and then use the ai noise suppression.

If you don't, then you can get something like a Samson q2u and a mic arm and keep the mic within a few inches of your face.

[ripe lantern]

sadly the country that I live in does not have any of those... so far, from what I am seeing, there are only these ones

[shut shard]

Hi, whats the cheapest mic, under 50 usd, thats good enough for gaming and also for professional work calls etc?

[molten lotus]

wow these are all terrible 👍

[molten lotus]

mpm1000u with a noise gate

@ripe lantern this also goes for you

I also stress buying a mic arm or else it will be annoying af to use

[ripe lantern]

Is it really better than the hyper X? also is it good enough for noise reduction, my room gets really loud plus the laptop fan noise

[molten lotus]

it is a lot better than the hyperx

hyperx is literally straight up bad

I know 5$ mics that sound better than anything hyperx has made

anyways mics don't have built in background noise reduction

spend a billion dollars if you want they don't come with features like that

[ripe lantern]

do you think ai noise suppressions will help my case?

[molten lotus]

I just use a basic noise gate

even with loud as hell background noises my sounds are the only thing the mic picks up

ai kills the quality so I avoid using it and since a reagate noise gate works well enough I don't use it

just take like half an hour to research how to add a noise gate to equalizer apo and how to use equalizer apo from youtube or something and you will be good for life

[lean grove]

https://youtube.com/shorts/bEurXLfzXfw

[meager ridge]

Some of my head phones people can hear the sound coming out of my headset

[molten lotus]

define usb thingy

[rugged plover]

usb-a port

[molten lotus]

there are like fifty thousand of them in the market

how am I supposed to know which

I cannot see jackshit in the picture

but there is a mic symbol next to the headphone I think

there are a million different tools which do that

is there any 3.5 inputs on the thing aside from the headphone jack which you have plugged your headphones into

it should

there is literally a mic symbol on it

did you select the microphone as the device

it does recognize it

you sure you didn't mute the mic from the dongle

or from the headphones

well your mic is either dead or muted

because it is recognized

that is normal

so your usb thing is broken maybe

or you need to click the buttons on the dongle to turn up the volume/unmute

read the manual

anyways if the audio isn't going through the dongle then the dongle is the issue

it may be a returned item if no manual was included

no that isn't the case

if you bought it recently just return it

get another

you don't need to

that isn't what you think it is

your problem isn't related to that

good

told you lol

[ripe lantern]

is mpm1000 better than mpm1000u?

[mighty vale]

What are some good noise canceling headphones that are better than the airpod max?

[molten lotus]

you need an interface for mpm1000

[molten lotus]

n700nc m2

[leaden cloak]

Better in what category?

Or just overall?

[mighty vale]

Better sound

[leaden cloak]

Then yeah AKG N700NC M2

[mighty vale]

Alr thanks

[leaden cloak]

You’re welcome

[nova violet]

how exactly do I find newer realtek HD drivers? My version is from summer 2022, and im curious if there is anything newer out there for win10

[molten lotus]

what are you hoping to achieve with that

[nova violet]

having a weird audio bug, like a random reverb/echo sound for a second or so. Has come on randomly

[leaden cloak]

If there is a new version it will be on ASUS’ site

[ripe lantern]

oh wow MPM 1000U is apparently a beast according to many people, is it overall good for recording if I add a noise gate to it?

[molten lotus]

recording what

for what

[ripe lantern]

Gaming content

[molten lotus]

yes

[ripe lantern]

alrighty then, thanks a ton

[molten lotus]

np

[nova violet]

my version is already newer than the one on the asus driver site lol, cant recall how that happened

[nova frost]

https://www.techpowerup.com/304090/sony-electronics-unveils-two-new-walkman-with-enhanced-sound-quality-and-longer-battery-life-including-the-nw-zx707-premium-walkman

I tell foobar to resample

[tranquil spindle]

High tech audio setup

[unique wind]

hell yeah that’s hifi

[tranquil spindle]

Oh yeah

And people still say cassettes sound bad

[cobalt sparrow]

How often should I replace my etymotic foam eartips? Ive had mine for almost 2 weeks... Use them every day for upwards of 3 hours.

They are gross already, is that normal for them?

[lean grove]

They do

[tranquil spindle]

Maybe on a cheap car stereo

[lean grove]

No.

[tranquil spindle]

But on a nice hifi set with type 2 or metal tape it is good

And Dolby c nr

[lean grove]

Dolby noise reduction helps

But it's still a really limited storage media.

It was swiftly replaced by cd.

For good reasons.

[tranquil spindle]

Yes it is a limited storage media but that does not prove your point on how they sound bad

[lean grove]

Tape hiss limiting their dynamic range means they are a few steps better than fm radio.

[tranquil spindle]

For most music that is not a problem

[lean grove]

If youre listening in a car to the Ramones, sure. Not a problem.

But 60db of dynamic range is really limited for well recorded and mastered music

It was a form factor convenience.

Not performance

[tranquil spindle]

They succeeded in that

For the time they were great

[lean grove]

They sure did until CDs came around

[tranquil spindle]

I like the cool mechanisms that come with cassette

With cd you just get a glorified pizza cutter

[lean grove]

I like the idea of lossless digital music being encoded onto a piece of aluminum foil. So to each their own I guess.

[tranquil spindle]

Yeah

[twin thunder]

just bought hd58x's for 100 bucks

[haughty moon]

Any thought about the akg k702, there's one kinda cheap near me and wonder if it's worth getting it.

[dry stratus]

when a tech guy writes instead of someone who knows what audio is writes it:

ads hurt to read...
the amount of useless words they add with 0 meaning just to make it seem more insane (basically just like shopping on TV)
"After only 3 insane days, he got absolute inhuman powers of xtreme for real truly insane strength!!!"

[ebon flint]

Update: It worked flawlessly

[quaint torrent]

Ok so some of you will think this is a dumb question but does anyone know a good 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable that’s not noisy so when it rubs against my beard i don’t hear it

[molten lotus]

Naim is the best quality audio brand change my mind

[molten lotus]

Ikr

[mighty vale]

What are shotgun microphones used for?

[lean grove]

Recording things from far away

[mighty vale]

Ah ok

[haughty girder]

you have 612 right

then it's not worth it

[haughty moon]

Yes I have them

Ok
Still curious how they compare to the 612 like about the same sound signature, details, imaging and such ...

[lean grove]

Gonna be quite similar

[haughty moon]

Ok well nice to know

[molten lotus]

k612, 701-712 generally differ mostly in tuning

[molten lotus]

so if I wanted a real microphone but didn't want that shit all up in my face 24/7 I should get a shotgun mic?

[lean grove]

Yes. But they're not a silver bullet. They don't sound as good compared to a vocal mic in your face.

They're meant to be out of sight and pickup from a spotlight sort of area.

[molten lotus]

no

they have a very tight pickup pattern generally

Klaus is just here to destroy people's hope.

[lean grove]

As he should

[molten lotus]

if you move around when playing it will be less than ideal

and adjusting it will be more difficult since you need to point it towards yourself directly instead of just putting it close to your mouth

it may be worth a try but I do wouldn't expect good results from it in a desktop environment

I have a $13 lapel mic that works well, only issue I have is I have to wear a shirt 😦

[molten lotus]

attach it to your headphones instead

or the cable of it

its a lav mic right?

[haughty girder]

directionality, I'm not sure what Nils is talking about there but shotgun mics are not made for "far away" in most cases

You usually don't want it to be further than about an arms length

but as close as possible is always better

the reason it's used often in stuff like LTT vids is when an lav mic can't be used due to reasons like movement, so it's held just outside of the camera frame

but it's sensitivity won't be boosted or whatever due to it being a shotgun mic so they gain required will still be higher than a conventional SDC at a "normal" distance

[molten lotus]

YEAH but I don't like how strong the spring is and how pinchy it is on my headphone cables

[lean grove]

That's far away as far as vocal mics go.

Or, really, recording anything.

[molten lotus]

attach it to the headband

[mighty vale]

Oh ok thanks

[molten lotus]

they are the best option for such a case though no?

[near stone]

anyone know of a decent cable cutter (for 16 guage audio cables) on Amazon that won't cost an arm and a leg?

[molten lotus]

any?

you can cut cables with anything you don't need a tool for it

you can strip it with a kitchen knife or scissors if you want to

[near stone]

yeah I'm using my pocket knife right now but I'm ordering stuff off Amazon so

[open scaffold]

Idk I got a husky one from HD for like $6 or someth I think a while back. Strips different gauges and cuts. Has worked well for me, would rec it.

[near stone]

okay I'll look for that one

I like huskey their stuff isn't super expensive

[open scaffold]

Ye I generally go for husky and Milwaukee stuff cuz it's well built and nice colors. Dewalt good too, just is a yellow aesthetic. Usually use them for drill stuff tho

[near stone]

I usually just steal my co workers stuff he has probably 80k worth of stuff. two of everything

[molten lotus]

Does this look for $220 usd?

[haughty girder]

Lavs are always the go to

but when lavs can't be used then yes

[haughty girder]

if you're recording like a meeting you'd go omni in the middle, still pretty far from everyone

or like recording a concert

you'd set up at least 2 sdc up and in front of the band

if not more

still not shotguns

so distance isn't the reason you'd go shotgun, it's directionality

[molten lotus]

I feel like that is just semantics

[fast coyote]

Anyone have an opinion on that Epos mic? It's currently $124 on Amazon

[molten lotus]

for?

[fast coyote]

Just upgrading my setup and wondering if it's a good choice

[molten lotus]

what will you use the mic for

[fast coyote]

Oh. Discord calls, zoom calls, might dabble into streaming. I don't wanna go XLR quite yet.

[molten lotus]

yeah

don't pay 120$ for a mic for any of those reasons

[fast coyote]

I see.

[molten lotus]

mpm1000u

seiren mini

fifine t669

any of these will do

could go xlr for 120$ as well

[fast coyote]

Im using a K669 from Fifine right now.

Good mic. Just the cables too short

[molten lotus]

a cable expansion then?

none of the platforms you mentioned above will make use of a higher end microphone

you don't have anything to gain from a different mic

[fast coyote]

Fair.

[molten lotus]

if the t669 does sound bad to you though then it is related to microphone technique

in which case it is, the epos wont help you with

[fast coyote]

I'll deal with audio stuff after I upgrade the PC.

[molten lotus]

alright

[fast coyote]

I'm just tryna come up with a plan. For that.

Oh. Right. I gotta get a new desk too 😂

[molten lotus]

also for that sum you can get a good xlr setup as well fyi

[fast coyote]

My desk is a little small. I'm looking into an L shaped desk.

[molten lotus]

l shaped desks are great

even better if they have drawers underneath the short end of the L

[fast coyote]

It's gonna be a standing L desk. I've got more drawers than I know what to do with.

[molten lotus]

fair

[fast coyote]

Plus it's going in the corner. One part is gonna be a setup surrounding the Surface

I have a Surface Pro 7+

And I'll get the Dock.

[molten lotus]

you do visual work or something?

[fast coyote]

Got a good deal on it. I'm a student

$600 for the Pro 7+ with type cover.

But yeah. I want my gaming setup separate from my Surface setup

Already have a few plans. Like the Dock, and some kinda leather mousepad.

[molten lotus]

definitely a good call

[fast coyote]

Maybe Logitech MX peripherals to match the MX Sound speakers.

[molten lotus]

though a second pc is good for streaming if you want that

[fast coyote]

It's a Surface... With an iGPU. Ain't no way 😂

It doesn't have thunderbolt either

[molten lotus]

chat viewing monitor lol

[fast coyote]

Here are the speakers I got for free from mom.

[fast coyote]

Oh yeah!

[molten lotus]

or generally second pc you don't want your stream seeing

for when someone sends a questionable link

[fast coyote]

My main gaming setup is gonna be all Alienware (except the PC cause Alienware computers suck, but the keyboard and mouse they make are pretty solid)

And Alienware makes some kickass monitors

[rugged plover]

they are not solid

[fast coyote]

They're alright. I'm not a competitive player so I don't need shit like optical switches or super light mice

[nova wagon]

Also, it's preference

It's not like we have a Harman equivalent who did research proving that lighter mouse give you a competitive edge

[fast coyote]

Yeah. But. I'm not competitive.

I don't like playing against sweats

[nova wagon]

Yes.

[rugged plover]

Does changed. Have sweats

[fast coyote]

My game preferences are usually open worlds or narrative based titles. I wanna replay Deus Ex Mankind Divided

[fast coyote]

Bruh

[lean grove]

Omni is the exception. You're not gonna get good quality from Omni in a conference room. That's a necessity, not an ideal choice.

If you could put a mic in front of everyone, that would be preferable.

[haughty girder]

Ofc

[mighty vale]

what's a good amp for the dt880's

under 100

[minor sorrel]

I do corps and film. In my 8 years in the industry, 99% of time lav is never used alone. Lavs dynamic range is very limited, usually ppl pair lavs with a shotgun on top and mix in post. And about distance, obviously as close as can get without into the shot, even if it means 6 ft away.

Also. We never use anything else other than lavs and shotguns. There was a situation where we tried a sennheiser ambeo. It was a corp vid and need to audio 6+ ppl talking sitting around table. The result was worse than even just a single shotgun pointing down. if we didn't take a safe shot with the lavs and shotgun we wouldve got an unhappy client.

[dry stratus]

Thought you posted microsoft surface buds for a sec

[fast coyote]

😂

[solid wasp]

hey guys need help.
I have an event that is going to be live-streamed and recorded, and running into issues with audio. The thing is that we have 2 mics. One is a wireless shure handheld mic (xlr) and a wireless shure receiver, that is also xlr, and I need to find a way to get the signal from both of those mics into my PC (to my OBS, recording platform) as well as output live to speakers. i need to understand the equipment I would need for this to make it happen. From my understanding, I would need an audio mixer that has 2 xlr inputs, and 2 outputs, one to my speaker setups and one to my laptop (preferably via USB). But I am clueless on where to find this equipment and all, plus we are on a budget so any equipment would have to be under like 150 usd max.

[molten lotus]

We were talking about shotgun mics

[open scaffold]

You just need an audio interface with 2 XLR inputs and monitor outputs (which p much every interface has line level outputs). I like the minifuse 2, but there are other solid options, like the komplete audio 2.

And obvs would need cables to go from the interface to the speakers

[outer warren]

https://www.beyerdynamic.de/edt-770-v.html

Are these upgrades from the standard ear pads ?

Looking for more squishyness so I don't have too much pressure on my glasses frames and on my ears

Or is there a way to restore the squishyness

[nova wagon]

standard earpads on which beyer?

770 pro?

[outer warren]

Yes 770 pro 80 ohm

[nova wagon]

Then I doubt it's gonna be more squishy since they are basically the replacement part for the stock pads

[nova wagon]

You should look at brainwavz round pads offerings if you want a more pliable pad

[outer warren]

Can you link it

[outer warren]

Well this one is a upgrade

[outer warren]

https://www.brainwavzaudio.com/products/headphone-memory-foam-earpads-xl-size-perforated-pu-leather?variant=32801441087597&currency=EUR&utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=EU Feed&utm_content=Headphone Memory Foam Earpads - XL - Perforated&gclid=CjwKCAiArNOeBhAHEiwAze_nKHBc4xgc_lS58yYhZj4WJGEvfnPt9r1OpJgoQ0-7unygVRdpXmN65RoClTsQAvD_BwE

These ?

[solid wasp]

any cheaper alt?

[nova wagon]

Yep that

[outer warren]

I soaked my foam in got water and it restored the squishyness

But I'll get them as replacement

[solid wasp]

and what cables for the speakers do u mean?

[flat crow]

I am thinking about buying the Beyerdynamic M 70 PRO X. I would use the TC Helicon GoXLR Mini as an interface. Do you have other recommendations or would you even advise me against it?

[molten lotus]

what use case?

though before anything I highly discourage using goxlr, it is overpriced and performs very subpar

[flat crow]

Streaming, calls.

[molten lotus]

yeah don't waste that much on a microphone

something 20-50$ will work well

past that it is diminishing returns

[flat crow]

what would you recommend as alternative to the GO XLR

[molten lotus]

do you need a digital mixer

like on the goxlr

or do you want one

[flat crow]

yes

[molten lotus]

alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIcy54HSfQ

the product on the video is an x touch mini

it works a lot better than the goxlr for being a digital mixer

however it is not an audio interface so you will need one for an xlr mic

which I recommend m track solo for

costs 50$, works better than goxlr

the daw controller in the video also costs 50$

as for the microphone if you are not going to bother with noise gates and other plugins to get rid of background noise I recommend xm8500

if you will bother then behringer c1

[flat crow]

so beside the x touch mini and a XLR Mic i would need an interface right?

[molten lotus]

yeah I already mentioned one in that blob of text

[flat crow]

did you have a alternative if i want a audio interface and a Mixer in one device?

[molten lotus]

what are you planning on connecting

[flat crow]

mic and Headphone. My Problem is that i dont have much space thats why i chosen the Go XLR MINI