audio-tech

[unique wind]

that has a realtek alc892 dacamp which isnt very good

[haughty girder]

with that pfp?

[mossy linden]

Old pfp

[unique wind]

i have a b350 tomahawk which also has a realtek alc892

[mossy linden]

Probally gonna change it soon

[weak rapids]

now idk if i got the dates right, but if i do, the old audio recordings i have from when I used the shitty presonus and cloudlifter with my sm7b sounds SO MUCH BETTER than with the goxlr, no EQ too

[unique wind]

it's considerably noticeably worse than whatever realtek chipset is on my z490 gaming plus

looked it up, realtek alc1200

[haughty girder]

I'm a little surprised actually, given goxlr has a shitton of gain and a decent enough preamp anyways. Do you have a sample of both?

also which presonus, audiobox 96?

[weak rapids]

i can cut some audio clips from them, i also found one from when I first got the goxlr, had no EQ cause i didnt know jack shit, but still sounds better than now (imo) and different from how it is now with no eq

[haughty girder]

because there are some pretty bad ones out there that might not have a flat frequency response

[weak rapids]

yeah it was the 96

[haughty girder]

Oh.

what gain was the audiobox set to

high gain audiobox was a shitshow

[weak rapids]

pfff that i would have no idea, it was years ago

[haughty girder]

low gain was acceptable

IC

[weak rapids]

took them all from random stuff i recorded at random times since its a lot more realistic to how i actually sound

[molten lotus]

did you use a negative gain preamp for eq

@weak rapids

[molten lotus]

sm7b is just that inefficient

[haughty girder]

prolly the recording but there's a lot of compression artifacting in the recordings

[molten lotus]

its like

irregularly inefficient

[haughty girder]

I know it is

[molten lotus]

I don't know why they did this

[haughty girder]

it's because it's an SM57 capsule recessed into a longer body

and SM57 sensitivity was pretty low already

[molten lotus]

@weak rapids did you use a negative gain for eq

[weak rapids]

u gonna hate me, ik jack shit lol, idk what that is lmfao

[haughty girder]

Uhmm.....

[weak rapids]

this is an area i do not shine in

[molten lotus]

basically

[haughty girder]

when you boost an audio level it might hit 0dbfs aka "clip" where the digital signal can't go any higher

[molten lotus]

don't eq if you don't know how to

[weak rapids]

lmao

[haughty girder]

you'd lower every frequency so that when you boost certain ones it won't clip

[molten lotus]

if you want to do it I recommend watching a full on tutorial on it with equalizer apo

[molten lotus]

this

if you boost certain frequencies you clip them because they go over line level

at which point you are digitally boosting them

to prevent this instead of boosting you lower every other frequency

or add a negative preamp

which isn't something easy to do with an sm7b since its already silent af

[weak rapids]

i think this might be a side affect of the software i used to record it, annoyingly it digitaly boosted the audio

[haughty girder]

what did you use

cause to me that just sounds like really low bitrate recording

[weak rapids]

i used audacity

[haughty girder]

like 64kbit/s or sth

then there's a setting in there

audacity records wav and then exports to your setting

[haughty girder]

idk I think they're about the same (non eq'd ones)

other than goxlr being a little louder probably due to how far the mic was from your mouth

Just get rid of it or check for grounding/shielding issues

If it goes away when you touch the mic (assuming there's some sort of exposed metal) then it's a shielding issue, if it gets worse then it's a grounding issue

if it doesn't change then it's just broken

[swift nova]

That would explain it. Makes sense considering how much I payed for it though

[unique wind]

the sennheiser pc38x is 28ohms and has a 109db sensitivity which means itll hit 109db with 1 miliwatt of power

the apple dongle should easily power them

[swift nova]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

would you say buying a dedicated amp is worth it? I'll give the dongle a try, but if an amp makes a big difference I don't mind getting one

[unique wind]

standalone amps will have considerably more power than the apple dongle

but you can always start with the apple dongle, and keep it to use as a dac with an external amp later

[molten lotus]

give apple dongle a try

costs like 10$ at most anyways

if it isn't what you want you can look for a dedicated amp then

[unique wind]

apple dongle 3.5mm -> 3.5mm to dual RCA cable -> external amplifier in the future, you could make use of the apple dongle even if you decide to buy an amp later

so just start with the dongle and see if it's enough for you

[swift nova]

got it, thanks a bunch guys!

[molten lotus]

hey audio chat i got a question for you

what program is good for macros

[unique wind]

ya mama

[swift nova]

damn I have a lightning to 3.5mm

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33044

would this do the same thing? I'm doing a haul from monoprice soon

[molten lotus]

i wouldn't go buying random adapters

[swift nova]

👌 probably wise

thanks

[unique wind]

me happily using my scuffed setup

using an iem cable for my he400se

these replacement earpads are noticeably sturdier than the stock pads

and the mesh that covers the grill is slightly thicker

the density of the foam feels almost identical

im satisfied with them

[tawdry gale]

hd600 👍

[molten lotus]

that blender wont drive the hd600 very well

[buoyant vale]

but will it blend?

[unique wind]

i hope so

[formal tundra]

best budget mic/headset under $50?

[unique wind]

in ear monitors with a cable that has a microphone on it

or a hyperx cloud 2 at $70

headset choices under $50 are very slim

[formal tundra]

any mics under 50?

[placid geyser]

fifine k669B are pretty good for the price

https://youtu.be/Oxfp5JXGvog?t=329

i myself have a audiotechnika AT2020 for just discord and general in game voice chats

with a boomarm and everything

i kinda overdid it

[weak rapids]

curious on how you view the mic on the Corsair HS80, i remember when it came out and i saw vids on it the mic quality was astounding for even a USB mic let alone a headset mic

[dense ermine]

Naw I hate headset mics

I have a dumpy neeser nw800 or whatever to try out mics and I was thinking to upgrade to smth like at2020

[haughty girder]

my fav under 50 is the seiren mini

the only decent seiren

[haughty girder]

ew at2020

not a great mic ngl

[unique wind]

i can usually tell when someone is using an at2020 on discord

if they havent eq'd it at all then it has a very unique tone

[dense ermine]

or any particular mic idk which, i havent looked in a while, waiting for moneh

[coral tiger]

Do you have a digital audio interface like a Scarlett or are you using USB models?

[dense ermine]

I have a very shitty behringer um2

[tidal coral]

if anyone wants to rate my setup here you go
fiio e10k with senheiser hd280 pros, and a fifine ampligame

[twin notch]

Anyone here heard of the 1more sonoflow

Heard about

[twin notch]

Also does anyone know how the jbl tune 510bt compare to the jbl tune 560nc

[inland bobcat]

I got a rode procaster coming

[dry stratus]

Closed back senny, ouch

[steel crown]

Has any of the LTT channels done an update on the current running of best wireless earbuds? The free pixel buds I got with my pixel 6 pro have an issue. Audio is almost non-existent in one ear. Been looking to replace them with something but dunno what.

I want something comfy to wear in bed
But also want good ANC for work
(Which also means I can't have them falling out)

[plain widget]

Samsung's buds/Sony truffles/Airpods pro (I'm not sure if 2 pair worse with android than 1, imo the 1st gen does a decent job)

[placid geyser]

this with the gain around 60% and the air mode enabled

[molten lotus]

galaxy buds pro is probably your best bet.

[placid geyser]

but how would you recommend EQ'ing my at2020?

[haughty girder]

It's harsh...

That's basically all it is

[primal fulcrum]

If you use a hair clamp, you can mount an MP3-player to your hair, & achieve "wireless" wired earphones.

[keen swift]

what is best quality mic on a headset aroun 170$?

[bitter hollow]

A modmic

[placid geyser]

i used to own a modmic wireless, good mic but shit installation

every month or so i had to put on a new magnet

sometimes you bump it into something or you accidentally lay it on the desk and its at a weird angle

[placid geyser]

and after 1 time you don't really notice it but after its been on your headset for a little the plastic starts to bend and your modmic starts sagging more and more

[bitter hollow]

The plastic starts to bend?

[placid geyser]

the part what attaches to your headphones and the mic is magnetised on

the little plastic mold that keeps it in its place start to wear out and its starts becoming looser and looser

[keen swift]

@placid geyser what do you use now, still on a modmic?

[placid geyser]

nope, i bought a focusrite scarlet solo because my amplifier was getting buzzier by the day with the headphone port. i was completely done with the mic after it wore out a new magnet again and decided since i already have a capable XLR interface to buy a AT2020

@keen swift

i'm not saying do not buy it, just keep what i said in mind

[keen swift]

i don't like modmics and availability in my area is the key to what I will choose at the end of the day, but for the budget I've got I will like to get a headset with a good mic since my cloud II is not usable at all

[twin notch]

Jbl 760nc vs 1more sonoflow

Pls

Someone help

[weak rapids]

The mic on corsair hs80 outclasses multiple usb mics, so if you are adamant on a headset mic that isnt modmic, I would say that but note its also a wireless headset

[molten lotus]

I wouldn't recommend corsair at all

[weak rapids]

Nah ik their peripherals are ass

But the mic on the hs80 is insane for headset mics

[dry stratus]

I mean, a mediocre mic is still insane for a headset mic

As most are barely usable at best

[lean grove]

I think you're overstating how important vocal fidelity is for comms

Most things are quite usable

[dry stratus]

I mean, being able to understand what they're saying is quite important
especially when headsets are used mainly by screeching teenagers who keep peaking

[lean grove]

and they're usable

[dry stratus]

barely

[lean grove]

not barely

quite

otherwise nobody would be able to understand eachother

since 99% of people are definitely not using a condenser or proper mic

[dry stratus]

basically just the quality of someone calling from inside a noisy car

[lean grove]

which, if you ever leave your house, you would know that people do that every day

[dry stratus]

and for the most part, are so noisy I can't hear what they are saying

just sounds like a bunch of wind noise

[unique wind]

if you can understand what theyre saying it's usable

that's the only qualification

it can be constantly peaking and sound like absolute shit with a screaming baby and vacuum in the background

[dry stratus]

at which point you can't actually understand it

or you have to ask them to repeat 20 times ig

[unique wind]

ive run into very few people that i straight up cant understand because of their mic quality

probably like 10 total in my 6 years on discord if i had to guess

[dry stratus]

your average phone call I can barely even understand

[unique wind]

yeah phone call quality is really ass

[dry stratus]

just sounds like a subwoofer

[lean grove]

skill issue

[unique wind]

phone calls are usually

limited to like 300hz-3.4khz

[dry stratus]

but all you hear is 300hz

[unique wind]

only the most pertinent frequencies are allowed to save bandwidth

but flagship phone microphones are surprisingly good for what they are

theyre insanely tiny and nowhere near your mouth

[lean grove]

when you have good signal and can do wifi calling it gets even better

the actual phone network is beyond archaic

[unique wind]

factual statement

[molten lotus]

we survived the xbox microphone

[unique wind]

phone calls sound like ass because of the protocol they use not the phone mic

[molten lotus]

this wont kill

[unique wind]

if you just record a video and play it back in your camera roll it's completely fine

sounds better than almost all gaming headsets

[molten lotus]

I am confident I can make a mic better than the xbox mic for less than 10$

[lean grove]

con-pin didnt
he heard someone speak over an announcement megaphone one time and he was hospitalized for 3 days

[dry stratus]

what the FR would look like for that range:

[unique wind]

nah

[molten lotus]

nah

it wouldn't have bass

[unique wind]

that's just because people dont hold the mic near their mouth

the lower frequencies hit the capsule easier

[molten lotus]

it would only have bass starting from like 100hz

[dry stratus]

I am not counting the range he didn't speak of

[dry stratus]

or too close and just heavy breathing noise while talking

[molten lotus]

xbox mic probably

[dry stratus]

delta air FR for mics when

[molten lotus]

this actually

xbox mics didn't capture high end

but still this is understandable

[dry stratus]

sure this isn't too smooth?

[molten lotus]

its with 1/2 smoothening

also every graph is smoothened

[lean grove]

this is what klaus's $10 mic sounds like

[molten lotus]

you fear my potential

[dry stratus]

Klaus selfie:

[molten lotus]

my diabolical red dragon demon shadow eyes

[dry stratus]

more correct ig

[unique wind]

the effect of earshape on how the end frequency response enters your brain is interesting

my zetian wu iems have boosted treble and theyre still substantially less sibilant than my he400se

in my opinion holding my ear up to the backside of the earcup the sound coming out is more pleasing than actually wearing them

which is just funny

[cobalt sparrow]

Ikr? My IEMS need to have like no 2-4khz because my ears must block them, and it sounds super piercing compared to a similar profile on my headphones

[frank dome]

switched from a SBX-ZR to this, just because i dont want to have a literal physical wall between the 3x140mm fans to my gpu in my FD torrent case. and that was the best decision ever. music and games never sounded better ever. the sbx-zr holds no candle to this DAC monster

you might ask: what makes it better? i'm glad you ask! clarity and power. this thing drives my cans into distortion levels from sheer power compared to the sbx just flat out over-distorting at certain higher volumes. then you have these amazing DACs that are just no comparison. my connected HIFI system using just the pre-amp has an insane improved 3D stage when playing games. and everything feels so punchy so direct, just right.

edit: wording for nerds.

topping dx3 pro+ is the name of the amp

[molten lotus]

delta signaling?

[frank dome]

delta signal is the term for when your amplifier tries to send signals over it's own power capability.

aka distortion, and potential harmful signals to your hifi installment

[molten lotus]

I cannot find anything about this term in google

[molten lotus]

distortion happens by clipping yes but "harmful signals?"

[lean grove]

ive never heard anyone call that delta

[frank dome]

eh i admit defeat, after you guy said this term is not google-able, i tried the terms that defines them. in german we call it "Rechtecksignal". which basically just implies sending a wave in a hook like this: |_ instead of ~

[molten lotus]

a square signal?

[frank dome]

when i went around with my affiliates, we just called it a delta curve since it basically just resembled a square signal when looked at in an editor

[molten lotus]

I am positive if your dac shouldn't be outputting square waves at any point

[frank dome]

so yea its my bad, terminology went over my head. sorry about that

[molten lotus]

If they do they are not converting digital to analog

https://nihtila.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/W-DAC_v13A_Filt_Sharp_Square.png

dac square wave test

[frank dome]

you need to set a stop for yourself. if you are really on it, it already stopped being analog as soon as you said "analog". because that doesnt exist. download a track, edit, convert, upscale, enhance. whatever, its digital. the analog part happens at the DAC level, at which all these aforementioned problems arise. how to make the analog part work.

if we are at that part, thats the age old problem itself

[molten lotus]

I am aware how a dac works

but dacs are not capable of outputting square waves

a square wave that a dac outputs is like in the image above

it is no longer a square

Because if its a square then your dac is not converting samples into an audio wave

Which means there isnt a digital to analog conversion happening

Which should not be possible

[lean grove]

🍿

[molten lotus]

Real

[lean grove]

Yeley is obviously talking about clipping

[frank dome]

i see. i'm fine with your opinion 🙂 have a nice day 🙂

[dry stratus]

by getting good headphones

that's the answer

[molten lotus]

return them

[plain widget]

use eq

[molten lotus]

Buy better headphones?

[lean grove]

https://youtu.be/PsijHAVLbuY

[tender frost]

What're my options for an IEM around the £200 price point that's v-shaped or something near that?

[unique wind]

https://www.linsoul.com/products/tangzu-wu-zetian?variant=43301859557593

that one has slightly elevated treble and a lot of subbass

[tender frost]

Gonna be upgrading from starfields because whilst mine have a good run the cable is annoying as fuck and the paint is chipping extremely hard now lol

[unique wind]

if you want something with treble that’s similar to starfields but has a lot more bass then they have a newer model

https://www.linsoul.com/collections/featured-home/products/tangzu-x-hbb-wu-heyday

basically the more refined version of the ones i sent before

[tender frost]

Oh, cool

Yeah I do like how my starfields sound, so I'll keep this one in mind

Also, that £200 ain't a hard limit, if there's something like £220 that might be better I would like to know about it

[plain widget]

Sennheiser IE200 is releasing soon(31jan)

150$

[tender frost]

Watching the headphone show's video on it is what made me want a new pair lol

[plain widget]

well then why not grab it?

[tender frost]

Just want to know my options beforehand

[plain widget]

i see, that's logical

[unique wind]

that’s downright reasonable

[molten lotus]

that is quite rational

[minor jolt]

Would anyone recommend the jds labs element 3?

[lean grove]

Looks alright.

[molten lotus]

I don't know the element 3 but element 2 and 1 was not good

if you live in the u.s. id stick to a schiit stack or a zen stack

[tender frost]

I mean I just found an IE 300 for £200 so maybe I'll go for that instead lol

[tawdry gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLybffXE9A

[minor jolt]

ive had the ie 300 they are ok its just really annoying when they randomly fall out and putting them around the back of the ear is fairly annoying as well

maybe i was just doing something wrong but i ended up buying a pair of headphones shortly after that

[near stone]

280 for 4x r-15m and a decent receiver. good deal? I have a receiver already so that's just bonus

[coral tiger]

On sale for $80 which is the usual sale price, I have one and really like it since I had a Scarlett 2i2 and didn't need a DAC.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33304

[primal fulcrum]

Zalman makes the best headphones

[plain widget]

1)ie300 wastly different from ie200, ie300 is literally pointless now that ie200 is coming out
2)wearing iem's cables around the ear is oftenly the default and the only method u can wear the properly so that's to be expected, tho i wonder how they we're falling out from ur ears, did u not use the neck slider to keep them in place?

[molten lotus]

there is info on the ie200?

[plain widget]

if you trust DMS yes, there is

and measurements are present as well from hp.com

[molten lotus]

nah not really

[plain widget]

well, if you don't ig you can just wait a week

they officially come out on 31st

[molten lotus]

how much are they releasing at?

[plain widget]

150$

[molten lotus]

that's really good wow

if it is anything close to the prior good ie models

[plain widget]

there's a graph, if it tells you anything

2nd tip is basically if u basslet

[molten lotus]

2nd tip position?

[plain widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/934155418098348103.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[plain widget]

sennheiser invented hq engineering

you can place the eartip in 2 positions

normal

[molten lotus]

that's pretty cool ngl

[plain widget]

which gives bass

and "shallow" on the stem

which opens a vent that well, vents out the bass

i think

don't quote me on that

[molten lotus]

I will

[plain widget]

why not just use a switch? eh.

but the engineering is cool

[molten lotus]

probably its more reliable this way

[plain widget]

das true

bruh moment

i wonder why...

[molten lotus]

can you run me down on the general perception of ie*00 lineup

aka x model is y

good price performance, not etc

i only know of the ie300

[primal fulcrum]

You mean Sony XB50AP/XB55AP?

20$-30$
Best bass.

[molten lotus]

die

[plain widget]

ie300 trash cos overprice, no mids , and there's literally 0 reason to buy it
ie600 surprisingly good considering all the previous senn iems were eh, decent at the time, nowdays you can get better tuning at 20$(last iem to be released, now that title is gonna go to ie200) tho the highs might offend you depending on how sensitive you are to them
ie900 also eh, needs some eq to fix mids but if you like V-shape this one also has good techinicalities and well, is a senn not a chifi thingamajig. also tiny as all other senn iems.
ie200 currently seems like a ie600 but with more tamed highs and for 1/4 of the price

again, nothing is based on personal experience, all was heard here and there

[molten lotus]

and how much to these cost individually

apart from ie200 and ie300

[plain widget]

only downside to ie200 is that it's plastic unlike the other ones

[molten lotus]

boohoo

I will wear headphones made out of pepsi cans if it means good sound

[weak rapids]

speaking of

[molten lotus]

don't give a shit about the material

[plain widget]

prices taken from crin site, can't be bothered to google current msrp

ie600 700$
ie900 1300$

so basically if ie200 good

makes the rest seem pointeless

[weak rapids]

any decent wireless audiophile headphones?

[plain widget]

ie900 already was pointless when ie600 released

[molten lotus]

you can make headphones wireless with an adapter like qudelix 5k

[plain widget]

but now

[molten lotus]

but no built in ones

[primal fulcrum]

ie600 is 660$ too much.

that mark up, jesus

[plain widget]

:shrug :

[plain widget]

what isn't marked up

[molten lotus]

koss maybe

or chu

[plain widget]

sure

but that's not the point of high end stuff

tbh

[primal fulcrum]

Koss The Plug was goat
Pretty sure it created mad ear wax tho

[molten lotus]

they have in ears?

what the fuck

[primal fulcrum]

Yes

[unique wind]

hair dryer

[lean grove]

let me do it for you

[molten lotus]

i googled it before both of you i am better

[plain widget]

i actually had these, but it was like 3 yrs ago i wasn't into audio yet(shouldnt've gotten in) and just threw them away after they broke

[lean grove]

let me do it for you

[primal fulcrum]

They worked great with my mp3 going to chess club tournament in middle school 2005

[plain widget]

sigh

[molten lotus]

just remembered we had devices called mp3

[primal fulcrum]

How else to listen to music? Buy Cassettes?

[molten lotus]

yeah

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0881/4568/products/wm-a10-b10-2_1024x.jpg?v=1674055791

[primal fulcrum]

Cassette where pogs,
Could record multiple CD-songs, & avoid all the bad songs.

[molten lotus]

ngl I want one of these so fucking badly

[weak rapids]

how have I never heard of this before?? Does it have any negative downsides like sometimes glitchy audio or disconnection?

[molten lotus]

the latter depends on your receiver

[weak rapids]

i have a walkman, very nice

[molten lotus]

it will have delay unless you have a bt receiver that supports aptx adaptive

for competitive you may want to avoid it but generally the delay is basically nothing

[primal fulcrum]

LDAC superior.

[molten lotus]

ldac is literally redundant

[plain widget]

oo

[weak rapids]

damn that sucks

[molten lotus]

you aren't going to notice the difference between 320kbps mp3 and flac with iems running off of a bluetooth receiver anyways

[primal fulcrum]

Jokes on you, all my .mp3's in 64kbps

[molten lotus]

it isn't a big delay

the delay is completely okay

but if you are min maxxing for comp then it may not be ideal

[plain widget]

ya'll diving in hq discussions again, i'll leave after leaving my quailty senn review

[molten lotus]

pretty based ngl

64kbps mp3 with ldac

[plain widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535786870995419137/1066827426920931419/image.png oh yeah have one last hp.com graph

[molten lotus]

thanks

ngl the treble sort of scares me

but lets see how it goes

[plain widget]

yep

[weak rapids]

see id be upgrading from a Razer Nari so any wireless audiophile headphones would be an upgrade

the Steel Series Arctis Pro Wireless always caught my eye, I love the idea of a hotswappable battery that charges fast than it drains, also the DAC allows it to be plugged into audio interfaces

[molten lotus]

they are absolutely terrible

[weak rapids]

ik i had one for like a week

[molten lotus]

also dac does not allow it to be connected into audio interfaces

[weak rapids]

it had a 3.5mm jack so i was able to plug it to my goxlr

but it was awful

[molten lotus]

oh you mean like that

[weak rapids]

had a slight hum constantly

[molten lotus]

yeah that thing is awful

I also owned one

[weak rapids]

also sounded kinda flat

[molten lotus]

anyways there are no real wireless audiophile headsets

[weak rapids]

just returned and got my $400 back

[molten lotus]

imo get a wired one and a qudelix, do a latency test if you are too bothered

[weak rapids]

i do miss the hotswappable battery though, really surprised no other headphones have done it

[molten lotus]

but like I said unless you are min maxing the fuck out of your setup it wont be an issue

[molten lotus]

true

[weak rapids]

yeah it might be fine, but my insane hyperfixation would always say otherwise lol

[molten lotus]

just use them wired when you are going to go competitive

[trail holly]

Is it worth getting an external sound card / dac with this mobo and PC37x headset?

[lean grove]

A decent dongle is $10

So. Yeah.

You'll need a mic splitter

So maybe $20

[trail holly]

Ok, can you also recommend some software I can use to diagnose a potential noise bleed problem and set a noise gate?

[lean grove]

no

[trail holly]

why not lol

[primal fulcrum]

Internal Sound Card Master Race

[lean grove]

because i dont do any voice post processing

[trail holly]

fair enough

[lean grove]

please say sike

[primal fulcrum]

Just look at this Bad Boy

[lean grove]

look at all those filter caps and shielding they are forced to use because they're 2 inches from the GPU

look at all those analog cables that are gonna be right next to power, hdmi, and routed through a rats nest of electrical devices

[molten lotus]

No he won't

[lean grove]

pc37x doesnt split into a dual mic and headphone?

[trail holly]

it does

[molten lotus]

then it isn't a splitter but something to join them he needs

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[molten lotus]

That is not called a splitter

I could find wireless tws advertised as headphones it wouldn't make me right

[lean grove]

theres probably a lot of names for this

[unique wind]

klaus being a contrarian for literally no reason

[lean grove]

but you're splitting the TRRS mic+stereo into two different plugs

[molten lotus]

you are trying to join them

they are already split

[lean grove]

aren't all a split trying to be joined.

life is a series of joinings with others

that will be split at some other time

[molten lotus]

I am going to kill you

No offense

[trail holly]

[lean grove]

it entirely depends what you're splitting and what you're joining klaus

in this sense you're splitting the dac and adc into two different cables

you're looking at joining the headphone

[cobalt sparrow]

why did I read nose bleed lmfao

[cobalt sparrow]

splitting his soul from his body

Joining you with the prisoners

[weak rapids]

alright question, would upping my make up gain have any negative side affects (its currently at 5db)? or would it be better for me to just continue to boost my mic audio to 200% in OBS?

[molten lotus]

it would

but you can find out how much by listening to it yourself

a small amount of boosting will not hurt

[weak rapids]

i feel like adding an extra 5db to make it 10db of makeup gain wont hurt too much if I currently have to put it to 200% on OBS

in the sense that its a bit quiet already so adding an extra 5db wont peak or anything

[molten lotus]

bro

just sell the sm7b and goxlr

if you need to boost your mic audio by 200% and another 10dB then you are better of using like a 30$ usb microphone

actually no

you would unironically get better audio using a 3$ lavalier microphone

could probably find headsets that sound better than whatever you have going

[weak rapids]

nah its just that Youtube and Twitch output volumes are already low, on discord, in game all that its fine

[molten lotus]

what do you mean by they are already low

[lean grove]

do it and see what happens

[molten lotus]

he is already boosting it by 200% on obs how worse can it get

[weak rapids]

it dont peak on OBS bro

stays in the -20 -10 range

[molten lotus]

what did you mean by "put it to 200% in obs" then

[weak rapids]

what I have my mic settings at works for everything, except OBS, which normally is at the -30 to -20 range

also its quite noticeable im a dumbass here lol

so basically

[swift linden]

I’m looking for good earbuds that are around 200 dollars

[unique wind]

airpods pro 2

[weak rapids]

Bruh idk how people get earbuds to stay in for hours on end

[molten lotus]

which means you are boosting your microphone by 200%?

even if it stays in -50dB the fact is you are boosting is it not

[weak rapids]

Look bro idk what to tell you, it doesnt peak, the audio is fine, its probably just the way I have my OBS set up

[molten lotus]

can you explain to me what peaking means

if you attenuate audio by x dB on a program, route it to another and then boost it by x dB again to establish the original level

that means you are boosting the hell out of it

if you downsample audio and upsample it again to the same level it will not be the same audio, it will be boosted and scuffed

[lean grove]

It can be boosted and scuffed.

But if it's a few db here and there, with bit depths permitting it's not really a big deal.

[weak rapids]

Nvm i fixed it im dumb lol

My obs on sound settings was set to like 3% for some reason and it was lowering the volume of everything sent to it

[molten lotus]

few dB is totally fine yeah but I got really stuck at the 200% boost part

[weak rapids]

No yeah my obs sound settings were lowered to 3, prob accidentally moved it when I was adjusting a games sound, set it back to normal and everythings fine

[molten lotus]

well good that you have it fixed

[weak rapids]

Also the reason i wont sell my sm7b and go for a cheaper one like the xm8500 rn, is simply cause 1, im not good with handling money not from a paycheck, and 2 these things usually keep their value, I bought the sm7b on sale for $300, i can sell it for $350 (CAD), but im enjoying it rn and dont need that money, if I ever do I can easily sell it. If I did sell it all the money would prob end up in fast food or a game I want and will play twice lol

[molten lotus]

I don't really see much sense in that since you can get a better mic for 40usd and an interface better than a goxlr for around 50usd

and a digital mixer for 30-40$

but do as you like

[ocean pulsar]

digital mixer for $30-40?
Whaaat
source

[molten lotus]

it's not really a mixer its just a goxlr alternative which he has

The software is called midi mixer, its essentially a more elaborate and a physical hardware interface for the windows mixer

you use it with DAWs like x touch mini

it's very useful though, especially because it also tells you the volume of the window with the light indicators

[ocean pulsar]

Thats not a mixer, thats an interface
I do actually need a recommendation for a nice hardware mixer with usb IO, 1 digital in (on top of the usb io), stereo analog in, and stereo analog out

[molten lotus]

yeah objectively speaking it is

but its a mixer in gamerology

[ocean pulsar]

I still need a mixer and I would prefer to avoid software

[molten lotus]

oh yeah software is absolutely terrible for mixing

but using something like a raspberry pi to do mixing is very useful honestly

It doesn't have cursed windows drivers and works really well

[ocean pulsar]

i may go for that tbh

(its not for me its for someone else)

[molten lotus]

what will it exactly be used for

[ocean pulsar]

the only problem is, i want a spdif input for a pi

its for running an event

[solid swift]

is the xm8500 supposed to... not come with a xlr cable......?

[molten lotus]

it is yeah

[molten lotus]

adapters?

[solid swift]

why the fuck

why am i expected to have a xlr cable on hand..

[molten lotus]

do they give you display port with monitors

no

[solid swift]

yes?

[molten lotus]

where lmao

[solid swift]

mine did

[ocean pulsar]

event has 2 computers with sound, 1 needs to upload to the internet, 1 needs to be on a non internet connected lan, a mic and the local sound system

[solid swift]

and monitors should come with display port

[ocean pulsar]

literally every monitor ever comes with 1 display cable

[solid swift]

i dont see a reason why not

[ocean pulsar]

expensive ones come with multiple types of cable

[molten lotus]

it probably came in a bundle or was supplied by the seller I never had a monitor out of the 10 I owned come with a cable of it's own

[ocean pulsar]

nope we buy directly from the manufacturer lel

[molten lotus]

never had a boutique monitor but xm8500 costs 18$

[solid swift]

it arrives almost a week late and now i also have to get a xlr cable.....

[molten lotus]

that's so sad

I can't

[weak rapids]

My friend has PC Panel and its been amazing for them, $100 for full size and $50 for small and it’s software its pretty decent

[ocean pulsar]

again an interface not a mixer

i want something that doesnt use any software on the pc and does the mixing itself

[weak rapids]

Hm yeah the pi would prob be best to go, speaking of i should prob start using mine lol

[ocean pulsar]

again tho how do i get audio into the pi?

I really would prefer to avoid analog audio too...

actually hmm hdmi capture card could work

can a pi handle two 1080p60 capture cards simultaneously?

[rough jolt]

professional equipment has the expectation you do not want to pay the additional cost for included accessories

[ocean pulsar]

that highly depends

[molten lotus]

would have to resort to lots of adapters I assume

and input optical into it

or via network

[ocean pulsar]

network is not an option
but hdmi could work

[low reef]

Hi guys 🙂, my computer speakers broke, im looking for another pair what are good options in the $150-$200 dollar range?

something with a sub too

if possible

[nova wagon]

Creative pebbles is one I can think of

[low reef]

Got a link?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275279676081?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=HeJbF8cdQby&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ljxmlxpqty-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

these are the speakers i had before

[nova wagon]

https://a.co/d/84TZVVW

[low reef]

hmmm

those small speakers are too big for my desk :(

[nova wagon]

You mean the sub part of the setup?

[low reef]

No the 2 small circles lol

my desk is super small

[nova wagon]

Really, jeez

[low reef]

Yea

[nova wagon]

That's the smallest I can recommend unfortunately

[low reef]

Dang ok

I found some logitech ones

im not sure if theyre any good though

[nova wagon]

They will make sound for sure

[low reef]

💀

[low reef]

what would sound as good as these?

[nova wagon]

Anything tbh

[unique wind]

spend the money on a desk instead

[nova wagon]

It's a low bar to clear

[low reef]

no space

my desk is small cuz my room is small

[low reef]

oh fr

i loved them LOL

ok well u guys got any other reccomendations?

[nova wagon]

The Logitech one that you found that fits the desk

Or a bigger desk like Michael said

[low reef]

Dang ok

Thanks

🙂

[hazy heron]

Is a fiftfine ampligame h6 a good deal for the price?

[outer peak]

Could someone recommend a good mic? Something around 60-70 dollars with an xlr connection

Does not necessarily need to have an arm included

[molten lotus]

use case?

and do you have an interface

[outer peak]

I will be buying an amp

[outer peak]

Pretty much just talking, not recording music

[molten lotus]

xm8500

also you cannot use an amplifier with an xlr microphone

[outer peak]

Oh?

I thought I could connect it to this amp

[molten lotus]

that's an audio interface

that also has amplifiers in it but calling it an amplifier wouldn't be accurate

[outer peak]

Oh mb then

[molten lotus]

if you are looking at umc22 I recommend m track solo instead

umc22 is really solid but it made sense to pick it over m track when it was 30-40$

now its like 50-70$ which makes it more expensive/equal to the m track which does not make sense since the latter is better

[outer peak]

gotcha

thanks man

[molten lotus]

np

[near stone]

can anyone suggest a good cable wire to rca jack adapter?

like I cut my own wire to length and then have rca jack plug in

[molten lotus]

any will work the same

pick whichever looks the best to you

[unique wind]

your mother looks the best to me

[broken heath]

Is this actually 7.1 channel audio or is it a load of bs?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/114638949094?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=SK4J_O9wTY2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=-ie92xqqthi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[lean grove]

I'll give you two guesses

[broken heath]

My first answer is no

And my second answer is awwww helll no

[broken heath]

It isn’t playing

[coral tiger]

You can connect an amp to the 1/4" outputs on the back. Just need the right cable.
The Liquid Spark is back on sale for $80 again. That's what I used with my Scarlett 2i2 for HD650's. Good luck.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33304

[broken heath]

Are they booing or clapping?

Is it better to get a usb or pciex1 sound card?

5.1 channel audio

[coral tiger]

PCIE

[broken heath]

So something like this would be good?

US $11.97 40％ Off | High Quality PCI-E Audio Digital Sound Card 5 1 Solid Capacitors CMI8738 6H Chipset CD Driver
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLoD1uK

[coral tiger]

I mean it's AliExpress so 50-50 shot I guess.

[broken heath]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174858889008?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wQMQuT0cTFK&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=-ie92xqqthi&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[coral tiger]

Basically the same coin toss. Are you in the US or Canada?

[broken heath]

US

[broken heath]

Nemeae 5.1 Internal Sound Card for Windows 10 with Low Profile Bracket, 3D Stereo PCI-E, CMI8738 Chip 32/64 Bit Sound Card PCI https://a.co/d/i7zbc24

Amazon also

[coral tiger]

I'm not going to stop you from trying a cheap no name card, I mean you can return that to Amazon if it's DOA or garbage but I'd go with an actual brand.
https://a.co/d/2IpNlcL

[coral tiger]

Actually same price for the ASUS XONAS.
https://a.co/d/ewHA3Le

[broken heath]

Got anything at like half the price @coral tiger

[coral tiger]

Sorry, no those are the cheap ones with a brand name.

[lean grove]

Surround sound isn't cheap.

And when it's as cheap as it can get, it's real bad.

[broken heath]

I just need a sound card with 3 or 4 channel audio

Anything higher is a bonus

@coral tiger @lean grove

Pink, Green, and Blue

Stereo sound

[lean grove]

Idk how to help you with something this cheap

Sorry

[broken heath]

Dang

What’s better 5 channel usb or pci express 5 channel or pci 4 channel?

[lean grove]

Pcie provides no advantage over USB

It's restricting you to a worse connection in a worse area just to save you a little bit of space.

[molten lotus]

Tl;Dr usb better

[lean grove]

Thank you for tl;Dr a single sentence

[ocean pulsar]

imo the biggest advantage is it fits inside the case for a htpc
simplifies the layout a bit

[lean grove]

They don't take up that much space.

If you have room to fit a phone, you can get a minidsp

[ocean pulsar]

thts still some area

there are some very small pcs that still have a pcie slot

the thinkcenter tinys have one for example

[lean grove]

You're telling me you think that for some people there's no way they can fit a phone sized USB device within 6 feet of their PC

But they can fit a PC that has pcie expansion slots

[ocean pulsar]

again

thinkcenter tiny is a 1l pc with a pcie slot

and its about the size of a minidsp in total

and I specified for a HTPC

[lean grove]

And someone loves a shoebox apartment with no drawers. Every cubic inch matters. I specifically had to look for extra thin cables because any more any my apartment would burst

Oh but I can absolutely fit a 5.1 system

Like. No.

Maybe. MAYBE. I could see pcie offering better cable management

But even then. You're effectively just shortening a connection by a foot.

[ocean pulsar]

and putting the stuff inside the pc

in the 1l category, theres really not much internal space to be used

[lean grove]

Would you put the receiver inside the PC too.

Or the amps

[ocean pulsar]

if you have a soundcard you arent using a receiver

and the speakers can be powered

tho id love to see a 1l ish sized receiver thats either full digital or at least just line level

that would work rather well for me

[ocean pulsar]

well at least in a system after hdmi was available in receivers ofc

[lean grove]

Mini DSP has that

But they're also called surround processors

[ocean pulsar]

which minidsp has more than 1 surround input?

[lean grove]

Input?

[ocean pulsar]

like 2 hdmi ports for example

[lean grove]

Well all of them have more than one inputs

2x HDMI lemme check

[ocean pulsar]

so i mean dual 8 channel input

[lean grove]

No HDMI

But most of them offer multiple digital inputs of other flavors

[ocean pulsar]

my previous searches determined they supported a maximum of 8 channels of input total

[lean grove]

If you count USB and optical, yeah they can do 8 channels

You want 16 channels?

[ocean pulsar]

i want to be able to switch between different sets of 8 channels

like literally every other receiver ever made

[lean grove]

Limited in that regard I suppose

@coral tiger are you gonna participate or just be a lurker

[ocean pulsar]

thats not really a "limitation"
thats a different type of product lel

[lean grove]

That is a limitation if a product doesn't do exactly what you need

[coral tiger]

I've learned you're a brick wall to talk to. So I'm just enjoying.

[lean grove]

Me literally admitting I'm wrong about mini DSP?

[ocean pulsar]

its not a product limitation if the product is doing something unrelated

[lean grove]

Okay. We can just agree that they're limited to certain sources

[lean grove]

Pcie sound cards are just beyond dumb.

Pcie audio offers no utility a USB connection can't offer

And I will die on that hill

[coral tiger]

I didn't ask for one just trying to help a kid not waste $20-$25 on garbage.

[ocean pulsar]

good luck finding a 64 channel 24b 192khz usb adapter

[lean grove]

That is the rare case where it is appropriate

[ocean pulsar]

pcie go brr

[lean grove]

The 0.001% of the time when it's useful.

When you're doing 6 channels?

Or 8?

Or, let's say 2?

The other 99.999% of the time

[ocean pulsar]

still have the advantage of taking up exactly zero extra space beyond the confines of the pc

[lean grove]

And the disadvantage of a worse product

[ocean pulsar]

worse in your opinion

[lean grove]

Worse objectively

[ocean pulsar]

a usb sound card is infinitely worse objectively

as long as your objective is fitting the audio device within a htpc

[lean grove]

As long as you have zero tolerance in any space

[ocean pulsar]

its still objectively infinetly worse at that metric

in your opinion its worse

[lean grove]

If you have unreasonable metrics anything is infinitely worse

So like

Sure

[ocean pulsar]

but that is absolutely not objective

subjectively its worse

100%

[lean grove]

If you have unreasonable subjective metrics anything is worse I agree

[ocean pulsar]

there are things that are objective

but this is not one of them

[lean grove]

I just said i agree.

[ocean pulsar]

and you again said something incorrect where i tried to correct you

[lean grove]

There are objective goals to having a system like this.

You want to have a surround sound experience. But you also want it to take up zero space.

Or as little space as possible.

I think those two things are at odds with each other.

Like. Massively

[coral tiger]

@ocean pulsar 🏆 👋

[lean grove]

Like someone expecting a 5.2 surround sound system for under $100

Technically possible. But you're asking for the moon.

A surround sound system takes up space

And you shaving hairs by saving 5 cubic inches of space

Is, I think, unreasonably subjective

You have to route cables. Long ones. 10 feet at least.

[ocean pulsar]

cables can fit under carpet

for example

ya aint stuffing a minidsp under a carpet without it being obvious

[lean grove]

A closet? A cabinet? A night stand? A tv console?

Stashed under behind your desk in one of those Ikea cable holders?

You can drill holes, rip up the carpet, but not find a place to stick a mini DSP?

Or any other external sound card that does surround?

[ocean pulsar]

you still end up with a messier setup when its not internal

[lean grove]

Marginally.

Actually

It might even be cleaner

You have one cable coming out of your computer going to a different location, and then 5 ish cables comes out of that other location.

[ocean pulsar]

again a htpc can be the size of a minidsp

[lean grove]

Alternatively you have 5 ish cables coming out of your PC with the sound card

[ocean pulsar]

skip the middleman and just put the pc where you would put the minidsp

[lean grove]

You could do that.

But then at the cost of saving those extra few cubic inches for your meticulously planned home theater center console, the one with extra thin wires because you're trying to save space, you now have a audio system which sounds like turbo charges onboard audio and a noise floor wrecked by PC internals

But it's okay because the subjectivity rating is through the roof. Because of the infinitely better subjectiveness of having a super slick cable routing that nobody will ever see

[ocean pulsar]

better than anything you get in a receiver lel

and btw the minidsp analog is worse than many generic soundcards

it has frankly awful dacs

[lean grove]

Yeah minidsp was just an example I pulled out

It's got, what, 70 db of snr?

[coral tiger]

Now it's not the solution just a random example he pulled out of...somewhere.

[ocean pulsar]

0 on a bad usb port lel

[lean grove]

About 90db

[ocean pulsar]

also usb itself contains buffers, where pcie can perform dmas
you can have io over pcie with nanosecond latencies where the fastest usb gets is in the ms range

[lean grove]

Wait till you hear how much delay a tv adds

[ocean pulsar]

my monitor is faster than a minidsp

quite significantly in fact

[broken heath]

So should I do usb or pcix1 slot for sound card?

[ocean pulsar]

usb

[lean grove]

Do whatever you want man

[broken heath]

Ok

[ocean pulsar]

but pcie is not useless

[broken heath]

I got the space for usb

[broken heath]

Bruh

Pci, pcie, or usb?

Which I should do?

[ocean pulsar]

actually tbh get whichever is cheapest that fits your needs

[broken heath]

Btw I’m also putting a gtx 960, and a pcie to usb 3.0 port

[bitter hollow]

what even is this setup

[broken heath]

They all cheap af

[broken heath]

Dell precision T3600

[lean grove]

When it's justifiable sure.

I just see gamers buy those stupid pcie gaming sound cards for their headphones and it makes me angwy

[bitter hollow]

no, but like
why

[broken heath]

I need it cuz I need line in

[ocean pulsar]

🤷 then just look at the number and pick the lowest one or with the highest reviews

[broken heath]

I’m broke

[ocean pulsar]

so then pick the lowest price one

[bitter hollow]

but you have a surround sound setup home theater...?

[broken heath]

No?

I just need something with pink, green, and blue

[bitter hollow]

is this some audio connector standard I'm not familiar with

[broken heath]

I need 3 channel audio

[bitter hollow]

and the motherboard doesn't have it by default?

[ocean pulsar]

thats not what pink green blue get you

[broken heath]

No, it has 2 channel

[ocean pulsar]

pink and blue are inputs

each port is 2 channels

[coral tiger]

You're good people @ocean pulsar

[sour smelt]

hey, sorry to bother you guys. my desktop speaker recently stopped functioning and I'm currently looking for another one at around 150 CAD any suggestions?

[lean grove]

Check out edifiers

[coral tiger]

I noticed you said speaker not speakers, what did you have before that broke?

[sour smelt]

some rando Chinese brand speakers from amazon

paid around 70 CAD

it was a bookshelf styled one

[coral tiger]

Gotcha, edifiers aren't a bad suggestion depending on your audio IO

Also depends on use case.

[sour smelt]

I'm planning to use it with my pc 100%of the time

just watching some youtube and light gaming. tho, I use a headset most of the time for games

don't need it to be fancy thing

[coral tiger]

Okay so nothing special just something so you don't have to have headphones on all the time.

[sour smelt]

exactly

sound and build quality is optional at this point

[coral tiger]

Honestly if you wanted to cheap out you could grab a pretty cheap Bluetooth speaker assuming you have BT in your PC and skate by, while waiting for a deal.

TV soundbars can work as well. But cheap powered speakers will give you the best sound.

[sour smelt]

hmm.....

[slender shuttle]

The name lol

[sour smelt]

oh lol

[lean grove]

N9ne is right. You could get something cheaper and worse. But if you have the money, you won't be upset with edifiers.

[coral tiger]

Check Amazon.ca for "Edifier R980T" see if they are in stock, and if so you can move up to better ones.

[sour smelt]

can't find Edifier R980T in stock I'm going to have to do some research it looks like

[lean grove]

Do you just want something to use to listen when you're not using headphones

[sour smelt]

yes

[lean grove]

Creative pebbles then

[sour smelt]

yeah, I felt that too

[coral tiger]

@sour smelt
Mackie CR3-XBT & Monolith by Monoprice MM-3

If you have Monoprice in Canada for the second ones.

[lean grove]

Please don't recommend Mackie cr3's.

[haughty girder]

t3600 already has line in

in the back it's a combined 3.5mm with the mic port

which is why it's pink/blue

Source: I have one

[sour smelt]

indeed

[coral tiger]

Just seeing what I can about what's affordable in Canada which isn't easy and hoping it will lead them where they want to be.

[broken heath]

I need mic and line in to be separate

[haughty girder]

front and rear are separate

[broken heath]

Fair

[haughty girder]

so why spend money when you don't need it

you admitted it too that it's not disposable money either

[lean grove]

Well recommending Mackie's are gonna lead them to a pair of bad speakers.

[coral tiger]

It would lead them to a site that sells powered speakers and then we could see what options were available.

You can stop typing I literally don't care

[lean grove]

Just like telling someone to go to a back alley doctor for surgery would lead them to more options.

[coral tiger]

Yeah that's exactly what it's like

Wow

Bye

[lean grove]

You've been in the channel for a week. You wanna help. But it just seems like you're not all that experienced. So it's just muddying the waters when people want a good recommendation.

[coral tiger]

You do know just about everyone absolutely hates you, yes? Just wanted to make sure you know.

[lean grove]

Ask questions. Participate in conversations constructively. But looking at top Amazon and Google results doesn't help anyone

There's an excess of bad advice out there. A of people try one or two things and think they need to tell the world how good these things are without realizing there's better options

[coral tiger]

Your arrogance and omission of facts is absolutely absurd.

[lean grove]

Most speakers, more headphones, not all that good. At any reasonable price range there's maybe, 2 or 3 good options?

[coral tiger]

What did I do when OP asked about speakers I asked questions to get a read on what they needed then even agreed with you but guess what apparently not available in Canada.

[lean grove]

So if you go around skimming Amazon top sellers and top Google results, you're gonna wind up with not excellent things.

Amazon wants you to buy crap.

[coral tiger]

I never did that so just stop lying and spinning everything to make you seem better than you actually are.

[lean grove]

All I'm saying is that you need to slow down a bit.

There are sage recommendations that are easy to pick up. And you can help.

[coral tiger]

All I'm saying is you need to stop ruining this channel for everyone else who has to avoid it to avoid dealing with you.

[lean grove]

You've been here for a week dude.

You don't know what the channel is like

Carmon and I have these arguments all the time. And it's about the most pedantic things.

[coral tiger]

Yeah I've only been here like a week and became friends with one of the most beloved people on the server who isn't from LTT, guess where I learned all about you and how you behave.

[lean grove]

Idk man. I think you're taking this real personal.

[coral tiger]

You ruin audio for people who actually care, acting like some God given gatekeeper of this channel.

It's called being truthful. Most people have that ability.

[lean grove]

This isn't gatekeeping my guy

Well .I guess telling people to not recommend things they haven't heard and don't know if they're any good or not is gatekeeping.

[coral tiger]

Currently what you are doing is called concern trolling.

[lean grove]

So yeah. In that regard I am gatekeeping.

But if recommending people goofy gear is what you care about then idk how to help you.

Idk what you want man.

[coral tiger]

So you're not gatekeeping...but you fully admit you are gatekeeping. Fix your meds.

[lean grove]

No. Concern trolling is pretending to care just in case.

[coral tiger]

Yeah like you did

[lean grove]

There's a lot of bad audio out there. Most things are quite bad.

So its good to gatekeep those recommendations

Kz buds, m50x, raycons, Mackies,

[coral tiger]

Jesus, I didn't even recommend anything I said search for something easily available in Canada so hopefully we found a good site.

[lean grove]

I'm giving examples.

The edifiers were a good recommendation.

[coral tiger]

Keep talking to yourself so you can feel like you won since it's all you really care about anyway.

[lean grove]

I'm explaining my thought process.

I was in your shoes years ago too

Thinking that there were all these mean scary audio guys saying that I was being unhelpful.

If someone wants advice, I try and give them good advice. If I can't give them advice, I don't.
Here I am giving you good advice.

[coral tiger]

Per usual terrible advice, that only exists in a world you created in your head.

[lean grove]

In any community, people seek help looking for good options. Every community also has people that like to help without being all that experienced.

[coral tiger]

Wow brilliant observation.

Genius stuff.

Use both hands if you're going to type.

[dry stratus]

first experience usually seems to be hyper toxic audio communities

[coral tiger]

Reddit isn't even this bad, so that's an issue.

[lean grove]

I think that's just most communities

[dry stratus]

meh, reddit is wayyyy worse

twitter is the worst tho

[lean grove]

There are audiophiles on Twitter?

[dry stratus]

everywhere

but twitter as a whole is just extremism

[lean grove]

They're in the walls

[coral tiger]

If he doesn't control the gate he doesn't see them

[lean grove]

Its me

The gate keeper

Which gate you may ask

We still don't know

[coral tiger]

Yeah you flat out admitted to it like 20 minutes ago or was it an hour...hard to tell with you you're like a vacuum.

[dry stratus]

The gate between normie tech and audio, trying to stop the swarm of "gaming headsets good" kids

[lean grove]

I know I was making a joke. I gatekeep bad advice. I think that's the most acceptable type of gatekeeping

[lean grove]

Sorry. you're ruining the audio hobby you have to leave.

[coral tiger]

Sure keep telling yourself that

The amount of horrible advice I've seen you give...just flat out lies because it's not how you would do it. It's a real shame. But people can't come correct you on anything at all because it becomes a multi hour back and forth.

[lean grove]

Name three bad advices I've given

[coral tiger]

1. You said advices
2. I'm not searching though the other 2 times I had the "pleasure" of interacting with you.
3. You should really look up The Dunning–Kruger effect.

Now here's a deal you don't talk to me, I don't talk to you. And you keep my name out of your mouth then we are just fine.

[dry stratus]

The answer: block

[lean grove]

Discord block doesn't do much I'm afraid

[dry stratus]

not when you can still click on their message to read

[lean grove]

It's like discord bubble wrap

[coral tiger]

You act like I want to talk to you in the first place. Please block me I'm begging you.

[lean grove]

Id rather it hides the message altogether.

Like someone would be talking to themselves

[lean grove]

Most people don't spend hours talking to people they don't like.

And I literally stopped talking to you

You broke that agreement in a whole 2 minutes

[coral tiger]

So now you think I like you? You are legit crazy.

You replied to my damn message you lunatic.

[dry stratus]

I mean, you did first 🤔

[coral tiger]

He never agreed to my terms at all.

[lean grove]

Con pin and I were talking

[coral tiger]

Say yes keep your word and we never speak again.

[dry stratus]

"don't talk to me"
"he didn't talk to me to agree" ?

[lean grove]

Yeah idk con

This dude's been here a week and hes already starting fights

[dry stratus]

someone on this planet: "tsundere"

[lean grove]

Con what gear do you have

I don't think I ever asked

[dry stratus]

what type of gear we speaking

actual gears?

[lean grove]

Bike gears

No audio gear

[dry stratus]

Currently basically nothing

while I do have a HD650 sitting in a closet, I don't really use it because I sit 6 meters away from my PC

[lean grove]

Did you just sell everything and quit?

[dry stratus]

nah, just have no place to put it

[lean grove]

Same 😞

I'm trying to downsize.

[dry stratus]

and my optical is f'ed and USB don't work over 5 meters

[lean grove]

Speaker time

[dry stratus]

don't like speakers

just give me susvara and an amp the size of a large speaker

[lean grove]

The much more sensible option

[dry stratus]

been watching YT for the most part anyway...

8-16 hours a day...

I am in pain

[lean grove]

Jeez you okay con?

[dry stratus]

8-16 hours is 16-32 hours of video content

watch at 2x

[lean grove]

Sometimes I yearn for 4x

Or above

[dry stratus]

no

my skin is f'ed

[lean grove]

What happened?

[dry stratus]

scratching myself with a hard comb

[lean grove]

😞

That's the wrong emoji

[dry stratus]

so god damn itchy and painful skin

[lean grove]

Have you seen a doctor?

[solid swift]

why does this stand thing not like actually support my mic

[dry stratus]

yes, they say it is all in my head

[lean grove]

Thanks doc 😊👍

[dry stratus]

red spots all over the body

[solid swift]

dont fit brah

[dry stratus]

cheap plastic

[solid swift]

it came with the mic

i dont see why it is supposed to not fit

[dry stratus]

not even titanium or gold

[dry stratus]

them: pay more for bundle > bundle don't work > pay them more > profit

[lean grove]

That sounds like hell. Doctors gaslighting you is a cherry on top. Does anything help? Baths? Topical anesthetic? Dangerous amounts of industrial grade moisturizer?

[dry stratus]

scratching with a comb

[lean grove]

💀

[dry stratus]

or a broom

[lean grove]

Skin is low-fi. All the cool kids have reptilian scales and sideways blinking eyelids.

[dry stratus]

nah, reptilians watch you through your phone camera while you bathing, and selling the images to nsfw sites

[lean grove]

You're saying I'm famous? 🤩

[dry stratus]

if you try hard enough, you might find nsfw pics of all your family members currently alive with a phone and whatsapp

[lean grove]

https://tenor.com/view/limmy-smile-frown-gif-21373964

[dry stratus]

selfie?

[lean grove]

Yes. It's me. Twice winning Scottish bafta award winning limmy

This is my alt

[dry stratus]

who?

[lean grove]

I think that's my new favorite gif tho.

https://youtu.be/-fC2oke5MFg

[dry stratus]

kellogrem

[dry stratus]

him: "gore quession foyuu was heafier a kellogrem o steel or a kellogrem of fedders"

[lean grove]

Why are you good at phonetically transcribing Scottish accents

[dry stratus]

?