tech-chat-2

[fleet marsh]

So im trying to wipe my laptop and install a new os. But when I get to that point none of the nvme I have in it show up. Any ideas ?

[merry stirrup]

not turning all my lights on rn for a photo its too early

[maiden prairie]

Yeah I don't think that's the best game to have an opinion on fg lol, it was not "gamable" to me

[civic reef]

Disgusting behaviour

Not just egregious overpricing but also a lie in the top right and bottom right

[maiden prairie]

But look

I play mh wilds, dogshit game

Without fg it would be absolutely and totally unplayable
With fg I may have a bit more latency but it's at least playable

[merry stirrup]

wheeljack rgb

[pure garnet]

i like how much of the specs are just ambiguous

[smoky orbit]

is this an ad from a store or something?

[merry stirrup]

2020 super

[pure garnet]

gtx nvidia

[merry stirrup]

the fuck is a 2020 super

nah go find that

[south shuttle]

yes

[south shuttle]

no

wheeljack rgb

[merry stirrup]

does anyone have a need for a cable mod 90 degree red and black 12v hpwr cable

@pure garnet want that in the next box i send you inevitably

it may work properly with your gpu or may require it go on the backplate (i prefer dat tho)

i think anything but asus it should work properly

[civic reef]

Yes

On Facebook

Because of-fucking-course it's Facebook

[south shuttle]

bruh

💀

[civic reef]

Don't forget the 699 RX 7600 & 8-core R5 3600

Also

Alienware steam machine 😭

[smoky orbit]

this website is a time machine
https://www.thermaltake.co.nz/

[pure garnet]

sure

[south shuttle]

i7-8700h

lovin mobile sku

[merry stirrup]

mkay

its a 450w cable if that does matter

billetlabs new pc is lookin fire

[wraith steeple]

I saw

[merry stirrup]

10 minutes through rn

[smoky orbit]

yeah, a lot more practical than the radiator too

[analog scroll]

and what about the RTX 2020 Super

[south shuttle]

can't tell if it's a mislabeled 8750h or it did infact exist

in obscure markets

[hoary hatch]

I see no evidence of an 8700h existing

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/122593/8th-generation-intel-core-i7-processors.html

[south shuttle]

i saw some russian listings of 8700h so that got me confused

[hoary hatch]

Best guess is mislabeled 8750h

[placid blaze]

Jonsbo NF-1

actually the NF-2 is out and has better compatibility

[merry stirrup]

not good

[placid blaze]

how so?

[merry stirrup]

i have one

[placid blaze]

ah

[merry stirrup]

it’s not good. the fans don’t move enough air/have enough static pressure to cool ram with heatsinks

[placid blaze]

how hot does your memory get damn

[merry stirrup]

would be good if i bothered to swap out the fans, but i don’t really care, the 120mm is better than any combo of 2 40mm’s probably

[merry stirrup]

less that it gets hot hot more so that i need the thermal headroom to remain stable

like, 60c is enough to make my shiz freak out so its a precautionary thing

terrible image

but you get it

the fans in it were so bad they both died pretty quick with heat from the ram and rest of the system

[placid blaze]

are your ambient temps high?

[merry stirrup]

no, but the temps inside of a computer generally are

the hub probably didnt get enough cooling cause it was shoved too close to the memory

[turbid locust]

Apparently my green sticks hate 49C ever always

[shell void]

when you tighten the refresh interval on ram it gets extremely cranky about temperature, you ideally want it at less than 45c

[placid blaze]

my memory never gets over 40 degrees under load so this whole situation is baffling

[shell void]

and tightening the refresh interval is the biggest boost to performance

[turbid locust]

going back to ATX soon purely for ram cooling

[shell void]

if you’re not tuning your ram then active cooling on single rank udimms is unnecessary

[merry stirrup]

are you on DDR4?

[placid blaze]

DDR5-6000

[merry stirrup]

so not true then

even on ryzen, you just dont stress your ram or look at your ram temps under stress

your ram probably gets hotter than mine because you dont have active cooling, which is kinda what i was trying to get at

[placid blaze]

even my idle temps

[merry stirrup]

my idle temps are lower

/the same

[turbid locust]

I idle at like 30C

[shell void]

i haven’t opened hwinfo in eons

but it’s about ten thousand degrees in my bedroom right now so i’m sure it’d be high idle

[merry stirrup]

and then consider that your ram is not the only thing in your computer that contributes heat to your ram

[shell void]

my ram loves having 600W dumped on it

[merry stirrup]

the gpu is the largest factor that comes in to play for your ram because its fat and eats 250-600w depending on your computer

[merry stirrup]

yeah crap like this is the problem 💀 😭

[south shuttle]

ram needs at least 1kw of power and ln2 for optimal performance xdd

[merry stirrup]

i top out at like 50c ram with only a ram stess going but that never ever happens

[shell void]

i’ve put 11 hours into pokemon yellow on my analogue pocket in the last two days

[placid blaze]

hmm maybe my psu is underspecced for my configuration

[shell void]

gaming at 0.8W

[merry stirrup]

with a gpu stuff gotta get toasty

[merry stirrup]

what pmic?

[pure garnet]

my trident z insulators suck so i’m at 56c karhu before gpu

[shell void]

holy

[turbid locust]

Bout to switch back to my 216X and just have those fat ass 160mm fans going ham

[turbid locust]

The one that starts with R that I can’t spell

[merry stirrup]

renesas

yeah so i think its just a renesas thing

wdym hates like it errors or temp gets all wacky

[turbid locust]

Errors or just outright system lockup

[merry stirrup]

wack

mine just stop reporting temp at 47c until it goes over or under

[turbid locust]

Apparently FH6 is the first game I’ve played in months that actually uses my 5090

[merry stirrup]

like it grays out in hwinfo and dies

[turbid locust]

even tho it was only pushing like 350W

[pure garnet]

i have anpec

[merry stirrup]

if i restart hwinfo during that the dimms dont show up

idk if thats good or bad but it sounds bad

i have richtek

[shell void]

richard technologies

[shell void]

is the game good? it looks really pretty in the videos that i’ve seen

[pure garnet]

it's uncommon

[merry stirrup]

my ram fan is also at a pretty high speed

[pure garnet]

i don’t have a fan i bricked my other 140mm

[merry stirrup]

oh god

ill send you one next time i ship something

[pure garnet]

nah i’ll buy one eventually im just not in need

[shell void]

kyoko only uses nawktuah

[pure garnet]

i’m dailying 1.35v 8000 rn

[merry stirrup]

i have a noctua

it just wouldnt look good in my system because its gray and not black

[pure garnet]

my half blown up a die is richtek

[shell void]

i think the new black 120s are ready now

[pure garnet]

they are

i had to buy 4 tires yesterday so fans are like bottom of the prio list rn

[shell void]

time to replace all of your nf-a12x25 gen 1s with gen 2s to get -1c

[pure garnet]

my a die does 7600c36 but 8000 was a no go

maybe if i loosen trfc to like 170 it'll be stable again

[pure garnet]

i’m going to just buy 2 new 140s for up top

[south shuttle]

under specific conditions*

[shell void]

[young void]

Slowly improving and the idea was my wifes lol for the tracks of land

[arctic bronze]

Short stack

[young void]

Im just happy it only has 5 fingers and eyes tbh

Can generate a butthole before eyes like...

Priorities I guess

[arctic bronze]

What

Are you making a corn model

[young void]

No xD

Its generated in trellis 2

Mostly npcs but trying to refine the settings to keep details i wonder

Brb

[arctic bronze]

But a butthole

[young void]

Sometimes a slit as well, look man I dont teach the learning models ok

I just want eyes

Im not asking for much

[arctic bronze]

Lmao

[young void]

Honestly myte just generate eyeballs and attach them seperate if I cant get it to refine in steps

[turbid locust]

I'm enjoying it. If you've liked any of the other Horizon games youll like it

@pure garnet so it was def temps

I wonder if the SPD temps are actually reasonable but the IC's themselves are getting hot. Might retry with my 6K26 kit I put custom spreaders on.

Either way shits gonna get better when I move back to ATX. I'll use the A3 in a small downstairs build or something.

Thinking about getting this board. https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X870E-AORUS-ELITE-X3D It's the only Gigabyte 8 layer I can find that isnt a super expensive model and it's rated for 9000 somehow? All the similar 6 layers are 8200.

[pure garnet]

looks like a nice board

[turbid locust]

I’m just trying to figure out why they rate it for 9000 and the rest 8200

[pure garnet]

well it's a refreshed board that just came out a bit ago

[turbid locust]

But I was thinking maybe that’s only single channel but if that’s the case I feel like the other boards would be higher too

[shell void]

check the memory support section; it’s rated for 9000 on APUs and 8400 on Ryzen 9K

[pure garnet]

the ryzen 9k rating is better than the apexes

[turbid locust]

I see I see. That’s still good.

Goated $350 board?

I was told gigabyte 4 dimmers have hax so maybe I have to check it out

[pure garnet]

my z890 master did 8000 with 0 intervention so i would vouch for it

[turbid locust]

If there’s a z890 board that doesnt do 8K it should be exploded so

[pure garnet]

i mean the rating goes way up but that might be cudimm

[turbid locust]

ya

[devout ridge]

Why must mens dress clothes be so goddamn hot

[turbid locust]

Because

[devout ridge]

I have a formal event to go to, but the high outside is 33 degrees

So here i am, sweating my ass off in a long sleeve and pants

[topaz veldt]

Went into trek for helmets, came out with new bikes lol

[devout ridge]

A problem i wish i could afford

[topaz veldt]

I got my little snail son a trek wahoo trail 24" w/ carbon fork and disc brakes

[devout ridge]

Not sure how a snail rides a bike, but sounds very nice

[topaz veldt]

Its complicated

[devout ridge]

I like the sparkly flecks in the paint

[wraith steeple]

[topaz veldt]

yeah its pretty cool for a kiddo bike

it flip flops based on angle/sun

[devout ridge]

Ooh iridescent flecks

[wraith steeple]

I don't ride mine as much (or rather it's been ages since I rode one)

[topaz veldt]

We ride a bunch especially down NJ shore house

but my daughter was on at Trek 12" and shes giant, and my son was on a 20" and quite tall also, so they had like 3 weeks left of trade in before $0 value

[merry stirrup]

messin with some curves rn

[steel stream]

The SPD temp has unlocked great things

[merry stirrup]

indoubitably

[low sorrel]

Is this how planes are made

@topaz veldt @wise bear

[topaz veldt]

jesus

[young void]

Sheeesh hoping that was fake

Thatd be some suckkk

[pure garnet]

lumen at 1080p is still too rough for this card

[shell void]

i don’t play with RT either because even with DLSS P the framerate is mediocre

[cosmic gazelle]

boys i need help

[low sorrel]

y u playing fortnite

[cosmic gazelle]

i need to build my gf a nas with 4 drives and she wants a cute case but i also don’t want it to be ginormous

i showed her the jonsbo n4 and she said she didn’t like it

but 4 drive cases are hard

[merry stirrup]

i put a little 3d printed block under my ram fan to raise it a little so now it’s closer to the ram and higher up

hurray

-1ish c not bad for just moving the fan

[low sorrel]

fractal node 304?

[cosmic gazelle]

that’s the thing is she says cute but cute just means not black

i’m looking at the jonsbo n2 if we settle on a black case because it’s absolutely tiny

[low sorrel]

theres a white version

[cosmic gazelle]

maybe she’d like this thing on etsy lol

[low sorrel]

what about the jonsobo n10

[cosmic gazelle]

their website says it only supports 2.5s

and if i was gonna build an ssd nas id just do it with nvmes

[devout ridge]

use space warping 2.5in to 3.5in adapters

[low sorrel]

ah fuck

[cosmic gazelle]

true

[devout ridge]

They use voodoo to create more space from nothing

[low sorrel]

hear me out jonobo n1

so small

[cosmic gazelle]

what even fits in that thing

[low sorrel]

5x3.5in bays

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah potentially

[low sorrel]

are you in amercia or uk i forgor

[cosmic gazelle]

usa but can just buy off alibaba

[low sorrel]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005010667894.html?

[cosmic gazelle]

holy shit

[turbid locust]

I almost busted when I realized yesterday

[low sorrel]

Did not forgot to delete the tracker

[pure garnet]

why not

[cosmic gazelle]

brother the shipping is more than the item 😭

[low sorrel]

oh what

[turbid locust]

I need to figure out a better solution for mine

[cosmic gazelle]

alibaba is $117 shipped

[low sorrel]

it's 30 bucks here

[low sorrel]

taobao better

[pure garnet]

standoff extensions + 80mm noctuas may be the play

[steel stream]

wonder what took them so long

[turbid locust]

Mayhaps

[pure garnet]

the dimm.2 is way too tall for me to do that though

[turbid locust]

probably HWmonitor licensing

[cosmic gazelle]

kyoko i’m getting a new ewaste aio pc from some lady on fbm, so exciting to finally have a processor that does nothing well

oh wait i already have like 4 of those

[merry stirrup]

same but for now it’s the gpu backplate+aio tubes method

[turbid locust]

This may be the method. Stand-off extensions have been a problem for me though I tried in the past

[merry stirrup]

80mm is the ideal ram fan size yes

[pure garnet]

sorry for the same 5 pics but the dimm.2 is comedically tall

[merry stirrup]

ideally 2 of them though

[pure garnet]

it’s got like an extra inch over the dimms

[merry stirrup]

booo

dropped my 9000 tune to 1.45v, works

might try 1.4 cause i’m like that

[pure garnet]

i may try 8400 with less vdd/q

1.5 should be safe but me coward

[merry stirrup]

aight im tryin 1.4

[pure garnet]

this bios really likes high vddio

[cosmic gazelle]

is your ram degraded or no lol

[pure garnet]

my a die is yeah

i don’t daily that kit

[pure garnet]

did yours post

1.4 vddq wasn’t enough for 8400 on my setup

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

1.45 posts at least

[merry stirrup]

my kit boots any voltage at 9000 i just have to math out tcl and other primary requirements

well any meaning like 1.2+ at least

[cosmic gazelle]

1 volt tune when

[merry stirrup]

1 volt cl 64

my kit is like opposite of yours

it doesn’t like high vddq and i have to keep it like 1.45 at most

but it scales decently the whole time

[pure garnet]

im on h24m so mayb

[cosmic gazelle]

does cl64 actually post

[merry stirrup]

why wouldn’t it

[pure garnet]

i just don't know if i wanna daily 1.5v vddio

[merry stirrup]

1.5 vddio is ridiculous

i would not

[cosmic gazelle]

aren’t there some max values on some timings

[merry stirrup]

yeah and cl64 just so happens to be it

[cosmic gazelle]

oh well there ya go i didn’t know that lol

[merry stirrup]

lol

[cosmic gazelle]

my ali cooler is late

[merry stirrup]

bitches

[cosmic gazelle]

need to run fh6 on the fx 6300

[pure garnet]

yeah it’s a hard requirement for this speed

[merry stirrup]

yeah i’d back down to 8 or 8200

[pure garnet]

i just run 8c38 1.35v ram 1.4v vddio

[merry stirrup]

yeah that’s meta

[pure garnet]

xmp++

[merry stirrup]

took away like 1w or so from starting

6.5 to 5.5 at peak, actually not bad

[cosmic gazelle]

i don’t think the difference between 1.4 and 1.2 on ddr4 was enough for the watt meter to even perceive

at idle at least

[merry stirrup]

well no

but my dimms have wattage reporting

all ddr5 should

you can even adjust power limits for your ram

[cosmic gazelle]

i gotta actually work on a real 4400 tune this week

the reddit one started crashing games

[pure garnet]

floppa the apex takes the longest to train out of any am5 board i’ve owned recently

[merry stirrup]

you have a ram speed effective slower than my speed in raw ghz

[pure garnet]

it thinks really hard

[cosmic gazelle]

lmao

[merry stirrup]

it’s almost like asus knows what they’re doing

[cosmic gazelle]

gotta do what you gotta do when you’re on a ram kit that cost $180 in november

[pure garnet]

bro i hate twcl my board just safe modes because it didn’t change LMAO

[merry stirrup]

LOL yeah it just does the same shit the ocf does then it’s annoying as fuck

[pure garnet]

just hitting save and exit

if it fails again i’ll reset cmos it’s on a profile already

[merry stirrup]

dimms seem to be doing fine at 1.4 but it’s also at c42 so

[pure garnet]

it safe moded again

we just gonna cmos reset

[merry stirrup]

rage

[pure garnet]

why is twcl so ass

[merry stirrup]

gonna drop volts moar

[solar narwhal]

Pc keeps crashing then going to black screen then freezes and I just here buzzing in headset been happening for months it’s when I’m on games anyone help?

[pure garnet]

the trident z insulators would benefit from a heatsink removal but i am not doing that

[cosmic gazelle]

hold up chat

ryzen 5 5500 is monolithic which i feel like floppa told me but im stupid and forgot

potential ram oc meta?

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

it’s still in a safe mode loop

i’m throwing the computer out bro

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

set it to cl50 in hopes it’ll finally clear the value

4 reboots later it finally figured it out

[merry stirrup]

1.35 is peachy so far

damn no way i had this tune 150mv over for no reason

[pure garnet]

is my ocf just in the box still

[merry stirrup]

perhaps

[pure garnet]

understandable

[merry stirrup]

why

[pure garnet]

just curious

[cosmic gazelle]

good 1dpc am4 boards cost 1 morbillion dollars so nvm

[merry stirrup]

mpower is next in the list

[merry stirrup]

you don’t need 1dpc for ambient

[sharp heart]

meowpower

[pure garnet]

yeah 1dpc is really only a hard req for d5

[devout ridge]

ambient

[cosmic gazelle]

oh

[merry stirrup]

d4 is way diff than d5 and you will run into imc limits before signal integrity

[merry stirrup]

ambient

[cosmic gazelle]

even on monolithic?

[merry stirrup]

yes. i did 5100 on a b550 4 dimm

[turbid locust]

I think it’s an Asus thing. Gene takes a hot minute too.

[cosmic gazelle]

oh bet then

[pure garnet]

somebody in hwbot was shilling the ayw so im kinda tempted to pick one up eventually

[cosmic gazelle]

i imagine my x370 being t topology would still not reach that but it’d be fun to test a decent kit on a 5500

[turbid locust]

They get like zero OC support from Asus on purpose btw

No Asus secret sauce

[pure garnet]

oh im in a negative rush to buy one

[merry stirrup]

probably not

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ll get a 5500 once my gf gets the 2400g and shitty samsung dimms

[merry stirrup]

you need to do terms

without terms you get stuck quickly

[turbid locust]

My Z790 AYW OC was fine but it was entirely manual in terms of ram. I had to go through terminations and shit for stability.

[cosmic gazelle]

are there any decent videos about ddr4 terms from like bz or somebody

[turbid locust]

I did bench like 8600 tho

[merry stirrup]

lots of am4 info floats about

[pure garnet]

the $700 ebay gene is still listed for sale

[merry stirrup]

just faff

[turbid locust]

Gonna list mine on hwbot soon

[pure garnet]

the barren blue bios of doom

[pure garnet]

someone will probs buy it quick

[turbid locust]

Yeah ts ass

there’s no OC or Test bios’ for it either

It’s explicitly excluded from that shit

[young void]

we got faces fixed mostly

Eyes are still meh but gives me something to learn

[pure garnet]

it actually gets test bioses this time

[turbid locust]

oh wtf

so my z790 one just got chopped for no reason

[turbid locust]

Hopefully I want that gigabyte ATX board for daily

[pure garnet]

i think i’m gonna just list my collection of atx 4 dimmers on facebook marketplace and see if someone will buy them

nobody is dying for a z790 tomahawk so they’re not hwbot’s type

[turbid locust]

What do you have again?

[pure garnet]

z790 tomahawk, x870 tomahawk, b850 mlg that i want to sell off

keeping the z690-e for the 13900ks

and keeping the x670e-e as a backup board in case the apex exploded

i just know i’ll never use them again

[topaz veldt]

It's simple y'all

[topaz veldt]

Hot enough here now I want to just go to FL and fish

[merry stirrup]

69% tempted to delid my gskill dimms

[steel stream]

Solid 82 F here rn 💪

[turbid locust]

85F here today, 90F tomorrow

[steel stream]

Damn

[sharp heart]

11°C of real units

[steel stream]

I gotta get used to the heat again, I am baking

[merry stirrup]

pain

[topaz veldt]

87 and breeze, want my boat

What if I just moved to Florida and became a fishing YouTuber

[steel stream]

Could be the move tbh

[fringe vigil]

im american, thats a fact

[topaz veldt]

Imagine if your job everyday is to get up at like 6:00 gas up a boat and go fish for mahi or red snapper and YouTube about it

[steel stream]

Fresh fish every night

[wraith steeple]

I wish I had the motivation to do a YouTube channel

I'm a bit camera shy for that admittedly

[topaz veldt]

I won't share it but I have a YouTube channel with 5k subscribers still

[steel stream]

“SuperRichDataCenterGuy”?

[shell void]

it's 2.36K you fibber

[wraith steeple]

I wonder what mine would be based around if I were to

[shell void]

watercooling and prayer

[steel stream]

YT and twitch would be cool but I’m lazy and not creative enough

[wraith steeple]

That and retro computing would be the main ones but like akn, I don't have the motivation nor drive to make a channel

[wraith steeple]

Not sure if there's a market for my ass rambling about custom Watercooling and retro computing, or even streaming myself playing in my retro systems. Though who knows the algorithm works in bizarre ways

[topaz veldt]

Nah I have another

I used to do a ton of car shit

[steel stream]

If you’ve got a good understanding of a niche, people will watch

[topaz veldt]

@shell void

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

that video cannot be more exciting than the toolbox tour

[wraith steeple]

Now I'm curious

[wraith steeple]

I would be amazed if I'm even able to get 50 subscribers

[topaz veldt]

Was that the one with 220k views?

@wraith steeple my one has 2.3K.subs, my other one has 5k+ and hasn't had a vid posted in 5 years

But like 10 years ago I had a legit channel, but then I got married and had kids lol

It's funny seeing a question or comment on a video posted so long ago

[shell void]

a smidge less but around there

[shell void]

there's a comment on the toolbox tour from a dink that's poking fun at your tools being sparkly clean

that amused me

i guess buddy thinks that you have to be dirty if you use tools

[pure garnet]

soft hands brother

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I wipe tools down all the time

[topaz veldt]

Def not lol

[topaz veldt]

I used to make a MESS of shit, and then I started going more with engines and worked at the defense contractor and became a little OCD

our neighbor bought ATVs and its driving me insane

it'd be wrong to run like 8 gauge cable through the trees right

@steel stream hear me out

those yams are 425s

45' GW Canyon

sell my Contender 35st

one of you has to be looking for housing - buy my boat

@young void want to buy a boat?

[young void]

One day lol no space for now

[topaz veldt]

no you can almost live on this one

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-on-my-way-fast-coming-soon-speed-gif-16239356

[young void]

Lol sounds expensivees

https://tenor.com/view/boat-yacht-boats-yachts-hutch-gif-12727644

[topaz veldt]

lol def not a yacht

whatever, next focus - selling 200+ DIMMs of ram

[young void]

I believe in youuu

[topaz veldt]

pretty sure i have undiagnosed adhd

[plush stone]

guys wanna see something cool i made

[topaz veldt]

no

[plush stone]

pls

[devout ridge]

no

[topaz veldt]

i dunno man messing up my vibe

[young void]

XD

[steel stream]

Nice pontoon bro

[topaz veldt]

i dont have a truck anymore]

[steel stream]

Ah got it

In all seriousness that looks like a dope fucking boat

[topaz veldt]

fuckin huge

[steel stream]

You should do it, after selling those dimms

[topaz veldt]

lol

[young void]

Toss a few crabbing/lobster pots off the side and hang out

[topaz veldt]

sorting out mama snails estate]

[young void]

If ya snag a fish to chop up extra points

[topaz veldt]

haha none of that where i tie up

we have spiny lobster

you dive for them

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-bench-press-bench-lober-funny-gif-4371562097486085915

[steel stream]

Oh that sounds like fun

Get to catch (and throw hands) with lobster

[young void]

Just giant crayfish but theyll getcha sometimes

[topaz veldt]

no claws hombre

[young void]

Gotta try to grab thier back but sometimes to flexible

Never seen a spiny lobster

[fringe vigil]

nom

[young void]

Show pics if you get a chance snails

[fringe vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spongebob-squarepants-larry-the-lobster--k01KRW8R1A8EMP2XDCW6TH2J4HA

[brave panther]

fuelburninator

[young void]

In a small town in the mountains the whole river runs red around 6-7 in the summer all the crayfish come out to eat if you set a few traps its not to shabby can use periwinkles or fish heads or whatever leftover meat one has for bait. Then boil up with some pickling spice and butter

[steel stream]

Oh cool

[topaz veldt]

meh

https://youtu.be/CvU5PnDd-pU?si=c5iAKRZRPk1X3ij0

[shell void]

filling up your boat at the cost of a 5090 must sting

@edgy laurel oh hey it's in the app finally

[brave panther]

get a ppl and a private jet

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-grunkle-stan-after-all-these-years-finally-i-have-them-all-disney-gif-2624228875844465926

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-conquest-very-good-conquest-very-good-invincible-gif-3945700666894580744

it does not seem to be working

[floral spear]

Should i sell my cs2 skins for this game

[brisk jolt]

skill issue

[floral spear]

Is it even worth it

[pure garnet]

you're the only one that's been complaining about it here so probs

[topaz veldt]

I'd sooner captain my boat up the coast

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet ok temps FOR SURE

gonna try the kit I put custom spreaders on and test my theory that the IC's were getting hotter than SPD

[steel stream]

S tier game my favorite of all time

[hoary hatch]

Mmm sustenance

[steel stream]

Damn that looks good

W beans in the rice

[slim pebble]

That’s a pretty impressive tokens per second rate

[steel stream]

What did you season the chicken with

[indigo walrus]

Oh sweet, you've done my meal prep for this entire week - thanks so much!

[digital plume]

id devour that in two hours

[digital plume]

thanks to you I'm hungry now

[young void]

My wife just filled her purple ones 😂

[merry stirrup]

if youre there when it fails

just re run the test immediately

if it fails dramatically quicker, its temps

[hoary hatch]

U want the recipe?

[turbid locust]

ur so right king

this why w fw flopper

[merry stirrup]

no tune is bipolar enough to run 3+ hours then fail in 3 minutes convieniently at the same temp it failed at before

[steel stream]

Yah sure looks good

[turbid locust]

On AMD naw. On Intel perchance.

[turbid locust]

Intel Ram OC makes me wanna tweak tf out

[merry stirrup]

after a restart sure but i dont think even intel has it that bad

[steel stream]

Goat thanks

[turbid locust]

My original 8800 tune on my 265K errored in 10 mins after going for 4 hours on the same boot

[merry stirrup]

i mean im pretty sure certain timing errors are intermittent but yeah then idk

[hoary hatch]

Picked this up from Costco. It's fine but not my favorite. Once I kill it I'm going to find a spice blend mix online and batch prep my own.

[merry stirrup]

temps seem to be the bane of everyone rn

i may jump the gun early and delid the pretty sticks

[brisk jolt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/memtest86-8-10-adds-better-intel-panther-lake-support

[shell void]

lol 1.2g servings to try and make it seem low calorie

[steel stream]

Good to know, honestly I haven’t checked out seasoning and rubs at Costco, have take a look next time I go

Usually I just do lemon pepper on my chicken

[steel stream]

Sitting in front of the fan rn

[merry stirrup]

i may do it if its possible to reattach them

[hoary hatch]

Lmao 1/4 tsp per serving. Yeah I'm putting close to a tsp on each chicken thigh

[merry stirrup]

seems so if im not stupid and use the hair dryer

[pure garnet]

you should've taken a couple bins of ram home when they fired you

[merry stirrup]

so right king

bruh the same guy i watch do tarkov testing has a video on removing the heatsinks

[steel stream]

Multi talented

[shell void]

yeah that portioning is such malarkey

[merry stirrup]

thats how i know his tuning testing is legit

i wonder if hes done a 4400 in tarkov video

[shell void]

im intrigued by your plan to make a custom rub, that's big brain adulting

[turbid locust]

My greens have no spreaders and were erroring at 49C 50K tREFI

[merry stirrup]

no way

[turbid locust]

I even have a fan to ramp hard at 45C

[merry stirrup]

crazy

[shell void]

if youre heat erroring in karhu with no gpu load then youre genuinely cooked in games

[merry stirrup]

yeah with a gpu load its disputable if youll actually crash in games

[turbid locust]

thats with gpu

[merry stirrup]

just watch temps

[turbid locust]

no gpu they peak at like 44C and are chillin

[merry stirrup]

i wonder if other timings on the ram are being affected by temp more than we thought

[turbid locust]

I couldnt play forza for more than like 30 mins before it froze my system

[shell void]

i cant lie guys every day that goes by im less interested in using my desktop

[turbid locust]

I mean I do have tRFC slammed

[shell void]

sitting at a desk just sucks

[hoary hatch]

Gotta be cheaper than buying premade stuff, right?

[merry stirrup]

well those two are related, so duh, yes trfc is going to be affected by heat

[brisk jolt]

sit on the sofa and enjoy controller gamin

[shell void]

i would assume so, but ive never looked into custom rubbing

[hoary hatch]

Like I'm not planning on pioneering my own spice rub
Just going to look up something BBQ then bulk batch it

[shell void]

rubtech

[merry stirrup]

as capacitors are hotter they lose charge faster making the timings that have to do with recharging take longer/have to happen in shorter intervals

[steel stream]

Nah you gotta patent it

[merry stirrup]

tRFC is the amount of time it sits recharging

[brave panther]

get a standing desk

[shell void]

that sucks even more

[pure garnet]

floppa do you think if i loosen trfc on my degraded sticks that might help me get 8000 working again

[hoary hatch]

https://rubtech.ae/

[shell void]

ive had a standing desk for like 5 years and ive used it maybe five times

[turbid locust]

I will loosen tRFC to 140ns if I have no luck here

[merry stirrup]

perahps

[steel stream]

What’s ideal for you now? Couch gaming?

[pure garnet]

im gonna just wide swing it 170ns tonight and hope for the best

[merry stirrup]

i tried raising mine by 50 tck (i have no idea what that is in ns) but

[hoary hatch]

I do not care for using a controller at a desk

[merry stirrup]

not really any dice

but im at like 54c w/gpu load

[pure garnet]

i just have the number for 170 memorized because h24m

[trim agate]

At work sitting at a desk for the next 8 hours, I agree it fucking sucks

[shell void]

i sit on the couch or in my bed with my macbook, or play gameboy pokemon

[steel stream]

I use it for ps ports and emulators

[steel stream]

I miss the couch gaming from my PlayStation days fr fr

[brave panther]

i use if quite often at work when i am attending meetings

[hoary hatch]

Controller just makes me want to lay down on the couch

[pure garnet]

these heatspreaders suck (this is in game)

[steel stream]

Couch gaming is so comfortable

[shell void]

it's just so much better

[trim agate]

I’m thinking about doing a terraria playthrough for the first time in a decade, using a controller on my bed

[fringe vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-king-of-pop-mj-billie-jean-moonwalk-gif-9669008638017777189

[brave panther]

nuh uh

[turbid locust]

Thats why I have an xbox

[shell void]

the big problem is that playing first person games with a controller is actual human rights violating torture

[turbid locust]

that too tho

[merry stirrup]

i tried raising mine 11ns and it did nothing

133->144ns

[steel stream]

Idk how I played comp fps at 30 on the ps4

[shell void]

i think most of the cods ran at 60fps, but yeah idk how we coped

[trim agate]

Fortnite endgames weren’t cool

[turbid locust]

Maybe instead of a full blown pc build for downstairs i'll just buy a mini pc for like 300 and steam remote play from the desktop idk

[shell void]

aggressive aim assist and everyone else being in the same boat i guess

[merry stirrup]

idk i think theres probably a formula we need to do though to find the best trfc value compared to refi value for temp

[steel stream]

Yeah equal playing field

[merry stirrup]

because you probably get temp headroom either way

lowering refi or increasing rfc

[trim agate]

Should I move my server to my living room then remote play?

[shell void]

that sounds nice because you dont get the heat or noise

[turbid locust]

BZ said golden ratio for performance is 1:100, beyond that is diminishing

[merry stirrup]

well yeah thats just like mathematically true

[turbid locust]

I mean I was planning for a 9600x/5070 system or something it wouldnt be a super high power system

[shell void]

ehhhh

thats going to be like 350W versus 25W for a mini PC

[merry stirrup]

if your ram is spending 1% of the time refreshing or .5% of the time refreshing it does not make a large difference

[steel stream]

Just get a PTL mini pc Mac

[turbid locust]

ok dry run with no gpu load with the heat spreader'd 6K26 kit peaks at 45C after 22 min karhu

[shell void]

5060Ti is a 75W GPU if you undervolt it to like 825mv

it's a shame that the 16GB models dont exist anymore

that with dlss ultra performance wouldve been a clutch TV setup

[merry stirrup]

what fan?

[turbid locust]

Pure Wings 3 120

[merry stirrup]

that seems higher than my greenies hold on

[brisk jolt]

but imo its already such a weak card even with DLSS perf

[merry stirrup]

"greenies" as in my klevvs

[turbid locust]

My greens peaked at the same temp on same config. My theory is SPD temp isnt perfect

[topaz veldt]

Seems hotter than mine stock

[turbid locust]

now lets get this 5090 cookin

[turbid locust]

Ok you're also in a massive case

[merry stirrup]

i peak at the same with no gpu load actually yeah

[shell void]

hey man ill happily take the cyclone if you dont like it

[topaz veldt]

SFF is not a massive case

[merry stirrup]

44 on the closer to cpu side and 46 on the hot side

[turbid locust]

5nail idrgaf

[topaz veldt]

point of reference is dumb

[turbid locust]

peak

[topaz veldt]

got it

[brisk jolt]

I cant imagine going below 900mv

unless your target is 4K60 on like medium

[shell void]

i mean it only has to run 720p

[merry stirrup]

i run like 865 on my daily uv

[shell void]

ive been rocking 2737MHz 885mv for a few months and it's been nice

but it's still like 235W with DLSS Performance, i kinda miss having a 75W GPU xD

[merry stirrup]

i run 2776 or something at 865

[steel stream]

I really got UV now

[merry stirrup]

my bad 2850

[brisk jolt]

i run 875mv daily but the cyclone I dont think I’d like anything below 950

[merry stirrup]

meow

[shell void]

clean

[merry stirrup]

had to take the side panel off so theres a shitty photo just for you

[turbid locust]

alright got the 5090 dumping 450W into the case across 5 sense pins (thank you Nvidia for this dogshit connector) let’s see what it does

[merry stirrup]

cpu fans are meant to be off i swear its ok

[steel stream]

I love the mesh at the back of these cases

[merry stirrup]

it lines up perfectly with the 5070ti io bracket

[shell void]

that 5070ti prime is cute

[merry stirrup]

yeah i want a bracket for memes

[steel stream]

Yeah it’s a nice just clean looking card

[merry stirrup]

anti sag bracket

gpu cable going on the backplate is gigabrain

[turbid locust]

lmfao even lower than the greens did

[shell void]

karhu error in 4 minutes is asinine

[brisk jolt]

i like to see the prime fans

[merry stirrup]

this one should look nicer

nope discord compression fart

[shell void]

photo looks fine on my macbook

[merry stirrup]

interesting

[shell void]

i mean it's obviously a phone camera pic but it doesnt look like discord broke it

[steel stream]

Seems ok on the iPhone

[merry stirrup]

you hardly notice the electrical tape anymore

[turbid locust]

W connector Nshittia

[merry stirrup]

it'd be worse without it

[steel stream]

What’s load balancing

Never heard of it

[turbid locust]

load balancing is the friends we made along the way

[merry stirrup]

i think the north is the prettiest one i’ve owned

[steel stream]

I still like my north, a little small but it was nice

I gave it to my brother to replace his old case (plus like 5 noctua fans) and he just said nah

[merry stirrup]

i have the xl to be fair

[steel stream]

Yuh XL is the way to go

[shell void]

i hope someone makes a nice beige mATX case before nova lake comes out

[turbid locust]

Def temps @merry stirrup

[merry stirrup]

yerp

[steel stream]

Gotta run jedec for the summer sorry man

[merry stirrup]

its that simple

[turbid locust]

Realistically it makes no difference on this cpu

[shell void]

asking for more than 32K in a SFF case with no ram fan is greedy

[turbid locust]

ram fan is there boss

[shell void]

oh rip

[turbid locust]

I dailied 50K for months I just never played a game that ran my 5090 hard enough till now LMAO

we gonna find out if it's tRFC rq tho

[shell void]

the only fool proof method for game stability testing that ive found success with personally is running YCruncher VT3 with GPU load

sux to run a 5090 for 12 hours straight tho

[steel stream]

Ultimate torture if you’re not blasting AC

[shell void]

did apple change the snip hotkey in macos 26 or something

i cant figure out how to open it and i dont want to google it

shift command s isnt working

[steel stream]

You gotta ask Apple Intelligence to do it

Computah

[brave panther]

cmd shift 4 if i remember correctly

[shell void]

you are correct mr martino thank you

i was probably just windows brained

[brave panther]

yea i had to get used to that one too lol

[shell void]

I DONT WANNA

[merry stirrup]

i have decided to use the mpower for its first real task

i shall create a proper modern intel bench drive for me

cause i hate getting these wild wacky inconsistent test speeds

[turbid locust]

🔥

[shell void]

custom floppa stripped 24H2/25H2 ISO?

[merry stirrup]

i forget the m,power doesnt like my 580

igpu it is 🔥

[merry stirrup]

i shall try

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-chemistry-tom-and-jerry-tom-experiment-tom-dhoom-dhadaka-tom-chemical-reaction-gif-215947638706993169

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[turbid locust]

wiggled the connector while the system was off and it made it worse lmfao jesus christ this connector

I should do what mike said and just not use it and pretend like theres no problems because I cant see it

[shell void]

yeah bro you dont need a monitoring device, just keep your nose primed for the smell of burning plastic

[turbid locust]

well I've isolated it to the PSU side

I wiggled the connector on the gpu and wireview and nothing changed. Wiggle it on the psu side and...

one pin still low but better than 3

[shell void]

i absolutely despise psu side 12v-2x6 because for most people it's going to be in a basement with no airflow, and possibly bent

[turbid locust]

mines hella bent cause A3

all the cables are hella bent just below PSU

it's ok im moving back to ATX soon

@merry stirrup loosening by like 40ns got me maybe 1-2C margin

[shell void]

on the eighth day of creation the good lord above gave us cybenetics titanium rated power supplies with 2x EPS to 1x 12v-2x6 cables

[turbid locust]

It's time to give EXPO her bad bitch summer

for now

Lian Li 216X 160mm intake fans about to fix all this

[shell void]

i heard that you ascend from LTN to MTN when you embrace auto trained JEDEC memory on purpose

[turbid locust]

welp time to order new daily board and hope it can do 8200 dual channel

[pure garnet]

@shell void @merry stirrup @turbid locust the x870 tachyon thread is just the insane asylum

[turbid locust]

LOL

[shell void]

am5 board prices give me heart palpatations

[shell void]

XD

[turbid locust]

Alright new daily board will be here Tues

[shell void]

$7200 later he's at 75MHz higher than my day-one purchased 9800X3D

[smoky orbit]

(Look up am4 price (extremely terrible value))

[pure garnet]

genuinely what goes through your head when you order the 8th 9950x3d2

[shell void]

and only because i dont have eclk

[pure garnet]

which, that giga x3d from earlier?

[turbid locust]

Yeah I want to experience a current gen gigabyte board

[shell void]

you must let us know how it is macintosh

i havent used gigglebyte since am3+

[turbid locust]

you know I will

I really liked my AM4 Aorus board

Anyways we on expo now time to play videogames

Oh also about to try out this 8bitdo controller

[shell void]

8bitdo ultimate2 does not work with the analogue pocket dock which enrages me

[brisk jolt]

LMAO

[turbid locust]

I bought the 2C because I didnt care about the charging dock

this makes me feel like a fraud

wait wtf did it auto 32K tREFI?

nah wtf hold on Mpower you trolling

[pure garnet]

the ocf did too

[brisk jolt]

then I am a sinner

[turbid locust]

I mean it probably wouldnt cause issues with tRFC being so loose but

[turbid locust]

this is valid

bro MSI is trolling

I enabled expo and it kept all my subtimings set??????

from the 8200????

[brisk jolt]

BABAHAHAHAHAHA

yeah it trolls you like that

[shell void]

there might be expo settings like "apply primaries" "apply all"

[brisk jolt]

im not sure about that but it’ll always stick to what you input instead of autoing back itself

inb4 g2 cl24 magic

[turbid locust]

there we go true fraud mode

[pure garnet]

jedec would've been funnier

[shell void]

i wish xmp/expo didnt exist

[turbid locust]

ive always just used it as a bin indicator

This game is heckin beautiful

[brisk jolt]

forza or sub?

[turbid locust]

FH6

They did really good with the RT

[brisk jolt]

Agreed

Access for my standard ass is tomorrow tho

[turbid locust]

Also im quite impressed with the in game rock/metal radio station in this game

We got Sleep Theory, Linkin Park, Baby Metal, Spirit Box, etc etc it's lowkey awesome as fuck lol

I usually turn music off in games and listen to my own but I havent felt the need to so far lol

[brisk jolt]

Interesting

[merry stirrup]

perhaps

[pure garnet]

i think i gotta get it on gamepass if i wanna play it

[merry stirrup]

what do you guys want to see removed from a daily os in our circle?

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet first impressions of the 2C, it's nice in terms of button and stick feel but it is a little small for me. Not a dealbreaker tho

[merry stirrup]

i'll need like actual community feedback if we want tc2os

[turbid locust]

I will be running bone stock 11 Pro for the foreseeable future

[merry stirrup]

also i wont handout os files ill hand out configs for ntlite so you can make it yourself

so its not sus 😭 im not distributing isos

[pure garnet]

how it feels booting up fh5 when everyone on 6

i just wanna mess with cars tonight and im bored

[merry stirrup]

but if however

[brisk jolt]

how it feels booting ac evo over forza:

[indigo walrus]

That sounds like a stellar soundtrack.

[brave panther]

which software is used to make this?

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet @merry stirrup same full system freeze at Expo. What the actual fuck.

Again, after about an hour or so of FH6

literally full cmos clear and running jedec atp im not convinced it was even the ram

[brisk jolt]

Was there any PBO?

[turbid locust]

super mild settings I’ve been running for months

[brisk jolt]

What r they?

I dont believe the ram is what caused it to freeze

[turbid locust]

like -10 all core +100 overdrive

[brisk jolt]

Try disabling +100 and just run -10

[turbid locust]

My ram was def erroring before on temps

[turbid locust]

i full cmos cleared

[brisk jolt]

just run it stock and EXPO first ig

I find it weird that it’d be erroring on simple EXPO without trfc and trefi even with GPU heat

[turbid locust]

all im saying is it could be gpu drivers because this shit did not start till I updated my gpu drivers to play forza

[brisk jolt]

[turbid locust]

wireview was whining about an amperage inbalance but I think it's meant to beep before shutting shit off but i'll watch it ig

[merry stirrup]

it boots

[turbid locust]

A Day to Remember just played too

[merry stirrup]

lookin at 2.8GB ram usage right after OOBE

[turbid locust]

man being ultra paranoid about your system stability is never a good feeling

[brisk jolt]

Mac its time for you to 4400

[teal orbit]

try adding +200 mV

[turbid locust]

Just gonna play Forza on the Xbox downstairs and worry about my pc when I rebuild with the new board sometime this week

[digital plume]

i fear that my 17 dollar 8gb stick of ram fails again

i once took out the gpu and the cpu cooler and the pc would refuse to work with it

it would not boot with the 17 dollar ram

nothing, only spinning fan, i had to use the other good stick of ram to set the ram speed to 800 then put the 17 dola ram back in for it to work

i will not be touching this computer again until either of us decays

[merry stirrup]

okay second iteration is being put on the usb stick

[cosmic gazelle]

what are you doing flop

[merry stirrup]

bench os

[cosmic gazelle]

better than iot ltsc?

[merry stirrup]

hopefully

[cosmic gazelle]

wonder how much more stripped you can get besides that and disabling some services

[merry stirrup]

i a ding that

[cosmic gazelle]

a ding

[merry stirrup]

am doing

[cosmic gazelle]

honestly disabling services manually usually only nets me like ~100mb lower idle ram usage

[arctic bronze]

A dong!

[cosmic gazelle]

but i guess processing threads are processing threads

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/total-ding-dong-gif-22599398

[frank cypress]

all that work for allat

[merry stirrup]

all about keeping the ram from doing things you dont want it to

[frank cypress]

nah fuck that

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah fair enough

floppa are you familiar with the rhetoric of slow car fast

i have exhausted a lot of the slow platforms that i can still force to run games and i feel like oc'ing platforms that already run games well isn't as interesting

maybe i'm just weird

[merry stirrup]

thats why you do point based benchmarks

or time

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah

the b450 tomahawk market on fbm is a little dry right now so might not get the 5500 setup running right this second

[merry stirrup]

for benchmarks broski i dont do this for the daily

[cosmic gazelle]

i think the asus x370 is going to the nas after all because it kinda sucks

[frank cypress]

ah fair

[merry stirrup]

mhm mhm

[frank cypress]

anything for a few more points in CB 🔥

[cosmic gazelle]

lol floppa and cinebench

[merry stirrup]

i do not

[cosmic gazelle]

two parallel lines that never meet

[frank cypress]

oh

[merry stirrup]

i do however have the highest rpl/-r cb score

[cosmic gazelle]

i wonder how much worse the b350 tomahawk is versus the b450

[frank cypress]

🔥

[merry stirrup]

at least in tc2****

[cosmic gazelle]

wait what the hell

[frank cypress]

i probably have the worst 13900ks in existence 💪

[cosmic gazelle]

DETROIT TOMAHAWK ALERT

[merry stirrup]

😭

[cosmic gazelle]

listed for 30 dollars shipped btw

[frank cypress]

i mean, does it work

[cosmic gazelle]

i would imagine it does

[frank cypress]

for $30 that ain't bad

what is that, b350 tomahawk?

[cosmic gazelle]

there are probably better boards with no vrm cooling for around the same price

b450

[frank cypress]

ah not locally for me that's why i'd consider it aight

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm, untested tomahawk max for only 58

[keen solstice]

AM4 is AM4 is AM4, especially once the firmware got good

[frank cypress]

eehhhhh after owning like 3 am4 cpus i feel very eh about it

[keen solstice]

yeah there's chipset feature differences but it's not like the old days on intel where everything would be locked down unless you paid up for Z

[cosmic gazelle]

idk if you mean all am4 boards are equal but that is certainly not the case lol

also am4 is literally locked down on low end chipsets

[keen solstice]

by the spec sheet, sure. in practice, not meaningfully

[cosmic gazelle]

???

[brisk jolt]

i think am4 is am4 idk tho

[cosmic gazelle]

brother a series boards do not support overclocking

[keen solstice]

OEMs played super fast and loose with their firmware for features AMD said shouldn't be on lower tier boards

"A series boards" go fucking find one lmfao

that isn't OEM shlock

[cosmic gazelle]

they're literally all over the place?

[frank cypress]

i mean kinda apples to orange comparison but i feel way happier with my lga1700 cpus

[brisk jolt]

i was happier with ARL except for single-threaded where the X3D dominates

[frank cypress]

and it's not like i had low end am4 cpus either

[keen solstice]

so let's take the cheapest AM4 board on the (western) market rn the ASRock A520M-HDV

[frank cypress]

i'd probably be happy with ARL if i had it

[keen solstice]

officially AMD says it's locked but you get XMP/EXPO, PBO, curve optimizer like.......

[frank cypress]

but with novalake and zen6 on the horizon....

[keen solstice]

meaningfully, nobody paying $40 for a motherboard is manually tuning multipliers on ryzen

[frank cypress]

a novalake CPU would be sick af but im kinda worried that windows wouldn't handle that shit well

[cosmic gazelle]

me when my vrm's start a house fire

[frank cypress]

3 core types, 52 cores is.... a lil cooked

[brisk jolt]

If NVL absolutely dominates I deadass might replace my 9950x3d mpower for it

Instead of only getting an ITX NVL system

[cosmic gazelle]

damn b550 tomahawks are pennies on ebay that's kinda sick

[frank cypress]

i feel like it would be fire af for people who use their PC for stuff like lookdev/CPU rendering

[cosmic gazelle]

do 5 series chipsets support the 5500 out of the box

[frank cypress]

if you could make it use only the ecores for rendering or split it in half for stuff like that

[frank cypress]

though realistically i don't think NVL is gonna beat Zen6 in gaming 😔

[keen solstice]

intel has backed themselves into a corner by commiting to use their own fabs again

[brisk jolt]

i like ARL for being very power efficient though

[frank cypress]

ah fuck i forgot my drawing glove somewhere

[brisk jolt]

AMD only wins efficiency wise only in gehming

[keen solstice]

laughs in ARM

[frank cypress]

im more so happy with the multicore perf / $$$

[brisk jolt]

yeah

I hate that AMD idles at like 50w

[keen solstice]

its funny how intel is basically AMD in the bulldozer days

[frank cypress]

more or less

[keen solstice]

maybe not quite that bad

phenom ii maybe

[frank cypress]

idk, im quite satisfied with my intel shit 🤷

[keen solstice]

as was I with my 6600k

[frank cypress]

i had more issues with my am4 cpus, but that's anecdotal

[keen solstice]

my amd a8-6600k, that is

fm2 master gang

[minor herald]

6600k vs 6600k

[cosmic gazelle]

i kinda wanna buy this just for this abomination of a cooler that's on it

[keen solstice]

6600k wins in everything but graphics, where the 6600k somehow beats it

those early APUs were sick 😢 rip the future

[keen solstice]

what in the MaximumPC

[frank cypress]

what in the fuck

but why?

i feel like it's way less space efficient than a regular dual tower

and i can't imagine the fan being spaced from the heatsinks being good for forcing air through it

what the fuck 💀

[cosmic gazelle]

there's a guy on ebay selling r5 5500 combos with shit ass motherboards for over $300

[frank cypress]

who designed it

[cosmic gazelle]

$60 cpu with a $50 motherboard btw

[frank cypress]

hoping someone who doesn't know better buys it

prob

[cosmic gazelle]

probably works

[keen solstice]

heatsink designers were on crack in the mid 2000s dw about it

[cosmic gazelle]

agh man am i really at that low of a point in my life where i'm gonna do hwbot subs on fm2

oh hey a z370 and an 8700k for 100 bucks

[keen solstice]

this would've had 32GB ram last year lol

[cosmic gazelle]

idk 8700ks have always been stupidly overpriced for no reason

[keen solstice]

well, the top chip syndrome always inflates enthusiast SKUs

[cosmic gazelle]

damn

i7-990x with 24gb of ddr3 and an asus rampage iii for $200

[keen solstice]

I remember trying to snag a 3770(k) to slot in for my 3570K

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm not buying it but that's sexy

[keen solstice]

it was literally eventually cheaper to get a ryzen 1600, board and DDR4 ram than the 3770 lmfao

these days the premium is nonexistant maybe $5

[keen solstice]

holy quad SLI batman

[cosmic gazelle]

i bet you could do a decent bit of gaming on a properly oc'ed 990x even today

oh yeah for sure

[keen solstice]

HEDT stuff aged really well

tri channel gives it a nice lil edge

[cosmic gazelle]

scale that up to 4.5 or whatever 990xes hit and you got yourself a lil power hungry gaming machine

$200 is super bad value but it's got cool factor

[keen solstice]

yeah no you're not buying that for utility

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

i5 4440 with a motherboard and a stock cooler for $32 shipped

still doesn't seem like a good deal

[keen solstice]

depends what you'd need it for and if you have the ram sticks lying around

ddr3 is still cheap but I wouldn't spend money after that

[minor herald]

sexy fan

[cosmic gazelle]

someone is selling an a75 board with 14gb of ram

which makes my stomach hurt a little

[keen solstice]

I'd like to see a complete system for that you know?

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah

[minor herald]

one thing i going to say is it looks like the heat pipes are not very close to base of code plate

[keen solstice]

what am I missing here? a75 like fm2, yeah?

[cosmic gazelle]

that's a pretty cool heat pipe

yeah one of the sticks is just 2gb for no apparent reason

[keen solstice]

gross

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

78 board with 16gb of ram and an a2 x2 270

for 45 dollars

i'm not buying it but that's not that bad

hwbot subs

[keen solstice]

ohhh

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm waiting on an alibaba cooler for an fx-6300 on a $200 990fx board atm

for example

[minor herald]

i think its kind of silly

just give me slighty larger heat sync on both

[cosmic gazelle]

i actually like it in the right application

the north bridge on am3+ gets extraordinarily hot when nothing's going on so having a heatpipe between it and the vrm heatsink can really help

[keen solstice]

this OC beast???

[keen solstice]

92mm tower btw

[cosmic gazelle]

it's still 90mm but it's 6 heatpipe supposedly

[keen solstice]

this is WR gear? 👀

[cosmic gazelle]

i kinda just bought it because i thought it'd be funny

[keen solstice]

oh yeah you'll be shocked at how light it is

my boy unironically has something like that cooling a sketchy "x79" alibaba build

[cosmic gazelle]

the am3+ stock cooler is so horrible that it doesn't really matter what it is, it'll be better

[keen solstice]

it works in that the fan spins

the OG wraith was an am3+ stock cooler for some skus so.... only sometimes

[cosmic gazelle]

i have the one you're probably thinking of

[keen solstice]

they made this piece of shit with and without the copper slug

[cosmic gazelle]

this is such a horrible deal that i'm going to bed, i can't bear to look at ebay anymore

[keen solstice]

if you have the "without" version, fun fact

[cosmic gazelle]

i have the one without the copper slug lol

[keen solstice]

that's an AM2stock cooler

[cosmic gazelle]

that's crazy

hence the alibaba cooler being infinitely better lol

i artificially limited my cores to 3.75 for ram testing because anything more would put the chip at dangerous temps